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Dream Theater => Dream Theater => Topic started by: zappafrank2112 on July 26, 2021, 08:29:35 AM
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Just saw on DT's FB that they added a show in Toronto on Saturday, November 13 '21 at Meridian Hall (Arch Echo as the opener).
ETA: There's a whole slew of dates, actually! Their FB events page shows a lot (the Toronto one for some reason popped up on my feed).
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Friday, October 29 in San Diego, and Monday, November 1 in Oakland.
That likely means an LA area show on Saturday the 30th!
Happy birthday to me!
BUT...kinda bummed to have an opening band because that likely means DT will be playing a shorter set. I've never heard of Arch Echo (they don't even have a Wikipedia page). Anyone know anything about them?
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The show listing for D.C. doesn't include Arch Echo, which makes me wonder if it'll be a longer show? If so, and if I can go, that'll be an exciting show to see DT for my first time ever!
-Marc.
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Of course the first night is San Diego when Delta is getting worse ::)
And Arch Echo is a bad ass instrumental band!
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I haven't been paying attention to a tour schedule at all....Tim texted me and there's a St. Louis date, 12/4 :metal Sweet!
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The show listing for D.C. doesn't include Arch Echo, which makes me wonder if it'll be a longer show? If so, and if I can go, that'll be an exciting show to see DT for my first time ever!
-Marc.
Unfortunately, it only lists Dream Theater for Cincinnati as well, but the venue website lists Arch Echo. Try checking the venue website for DC
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The show listing for D.C. doesn't include Arch Echo, which makes me wonder if it'll be a longer show? If so, and if I can go, that'll be an exciting show to see DT for my first time ever!
-Marc.
Wat.
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There are dates for Chicago and St.Louis and a host of other venues. I'll be at both! :metal :metal
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OK. I cannot contain my excitement and it has to go here!! :rollin Just 5 years into my DT discovery and 2nd new album release. I have seen them 7 times so far... and am planning at least 3 I think right now! Oakland, Denver and Houston. I turned on my best girlfriend to DT last summer. She is totally into them now!! (life is good!) She lives in OK and I am in Reno. So I am going to take her to see DT in Houston. :metal. My life is kind of shitty right now, so this stuff is a Great escape!.
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Is Oakland too far for you? Hopefully, they have a Sac or Reno date on the next leg.
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The show listing for D.C. doesn't include Arch Echo, which makes me wonder if it'll be a longer show? If so, and if I can go, that'll be an exciting show to see DT for my first time ever!
-Marc.
Wat.
Shocking, I know. You'd think I'd have seen them by now, and I even had chances and aspirations to see them as far back as the Systematic Chaos tour, but never got around to it. I'm just not that much of a concert goer, I suppose. I've really only seen 3 bands, Porcupine Tree, Béla Fleck and The Flecktones, and Rush, the first two at the same venue (Ram's Head in Baltimore), and Rush in DC on the Clockwork Angels Tour.
I guess I'd just rather spend my money on physical media of the many bands I like. I also have grown to dislike driving long distances as I've gotten older.
The show listing for D.C. doesn't include Arch Echo, which makes me wonder if it'll be a longer show? If so, and if I can go, that'll be an exciting show to see DT for my first time ever!
-Marc.
Unfortunately, it only lists Dream Theater for Cincinnati as well, but the venue website lists Arch Echo. Try checking the venue website for DC
https://www.warnertheatredc.com/EventDetail?tmeventid=G5vfZpRhA8Kch&offerid=0
No mention of Arch Echo on there either.
-Marc.
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Is Oakland too far for you? Hopefully, they have a Sac or Reno date on the next leg.
:lol. No way!!! I have gone to London, Milwaukee, LA and Oakland. None of us are getting any younger - especially the band. Getting as much as I can while I can. See you in Oakland?? I don't have a person right now to go with, so I may need a little extra friend time!
...and I almost forgot about "the next leg"! Maybe VIP's will be back by then.
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Where are the dates? I looked on the website and didn't see any.
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Where are the dates? I looked on the website and didn't see any.
The DT Facebook page has been posting events for each concert.
-Marc.
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The show listing for D.C. doesn't include Arch Echo, which makes me wonder if it'll be a longer show? If so, and if I can go, that'll be an exciting show to see DT for my first time ever!
-Marc.
Unfortunately, it only lists Dream Theater for Cincinnati as well, but the venue website lists Arch Echo. Try checking the venue website for DC
The FB event now lists "with special guest Arch Echo".
-Marc.
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Where are the dates? I looked on the website and didn't see any.
The DT Facebook page has been posting events for each concert.
-Marc.
Go to ticketmaster.
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Is Oakland too far for you? Hopefully, they have a Sac or Reno date on the next leg.
:lol. No way!!! I have gone to London, Milwaukee, LA and Oakland. None of us are getting any younger - especially the band. Getting as much as I can while I can. See you in Oakland?? I don't have a person right now to go with, so I may need a little extra friend time!
...and I almost forgot about "the next leg"! Maybe VIP's will be back by then.
I expect to be there. It's a nice theater too. Saw them there on the TA tour.
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Two nights before Thanksgiving might be the worst night to go into Boston. I’m not happy.
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I hope they sort out the tourbook issues this time. Last tour's tourbook availability was a snafu of epic proportions.
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Two nights before Thanksgiving might be the worst night to go into Boston. I’m not happy.
I think it was the Astonishing tour they played on Mother's day. Not good for a chef :lol
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I think it was the Astonishing tour they played on Mother's day. Not good for a chef :lol
I am a mom, and it was my first concert since I had been pregnant - over 15 years. My Mother's day gift to myself! Perfect for a Mom!
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Does anyone think that Dream Theater would end the sets with two epics back to back?
I am saying this only because I would like to see Octavarium live. And the chances of that happening are getting more slim as time goes on and the band ages.
It would be very different for a band to play 2 epics back to back, while bringing an opener.
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I think it was the Astonishing tour they played on Mother's day. Not good for a chef :lol
I am a mom, and it was my first concert since I had been pregnant - over 15 years. My Mother's day gift to myself! Perfect for a Mom!
But of course ;)
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Does anyone think that Dream Theater would end the sets with two epics back to back?
I am saying this only because I would like to see Octavarium live. And the chances of that happening are getting more slim as time goes on and the band ages.
It would be very different for a band to play 2 epics back to back, while bringing an opener.
The only chance I see that happening is if they play AVFTTOTW (whew, what a long abbreviation) as the last song of their "official" set, and they come back for OVM as the encore. But considering they're bringing an opening band with them = shorter set, I wouldn't be so sure.
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Where are the dates? I looked on the website and didn't see any.
I got my dates from Live Nation.
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Does anyone think that Dream Theater would end the sets with two epics back to back?
I am saying this only because I would like to see Octavarium live. And the chances of that happening are getting more slim as time goes on and the band ages.
It would be very different for a band to play 2 epics back to back, while bringing an opener.
The only chance I see that happening is if they play AVFTTOTW (whew, what a long abbreviation) as the last song of their "official" set, and they come back for OVM as the encore. But considering they're bringing an opening band with them = shorter set, I wouldn't be so sure.
I agree with gzarruk. Had this been another Evening With run of shows, there would be the outside possibility that they might resurrect 8v for this tour. But given that it's likely to be a 2 hour long show *and* they have an epic on their new album, it's almost a foregone conclusion that it ain't gonna happen.
Maybe if they follow the Maiden and Rush mentality of alternating between album and legacy tours, 8v will make another appearance in its entirety. Otherwise, I think that ship has sailed completely.
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Does anyone think that Dream Theater would end the sets with two epics back to back?
I am saying this only because I would like to see Octavarium live. And the chances of that happening are getting more slim as time goes on and the band ages.
It would be very different for a band to play 2 epics back to back, while bringing an opener.
The only chance I see that happening is if they play AVFTTOTW (whew, what a long abbreviation) as the last song of their "official" set, and they come back for OVM as the encore. But considering they're bringing an opening band with them = shorter set, I wouldn't be so sure.
Yup. I am hoping this is just what the supposed tour was supposed to be when they were gonna tour before the pandemic hit.
I do hope though that they do a full evening with headline again after this tour. But, I don't mind this at all, because Arch Echo are amazing and I am hoping to hear one song from them.
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Does anyone think that Dream Theater would end the sets with two epics back to back?
I am saying this only because I would like to see Octavarium live. And the chances of that happening are getting more slim as time goes on and the band ages.
It would be very different for a band to play 2 epics back to back, while bringing an opener.
The only chance I see that happening is if they play AVFTTOTW (whew, what a long abbreviation) as the last song of their "official" set, and they come back for OVM as the encore. But considering they're bringing an opening band with them = shorter set, I wouldn't be so sure.
I agree with gzarruk. Had this been another Evening With run of shows, there would be the outside possibility that they might resurrect 8v for this tour. But given that it's likely to be a 2 hour long show *and* they have an epic on their new album, it's almost a foregone conclusion that it ain't gonna happen.
Maybe if they follow the Maiden and Rush mentality of alternating between album and legacy tours, 8v will make another appearance in its entirety. Otherwise, I think that ship has sailed completely.
If it's a two hour set and they play the epic. That leaves them to play either one or two of the almost 10 minute songs, and maybe all 3 of the shorter 6-7 minute songs. Which would leave about an hour for older songs. So that would leave 20 minutes for Octavarium and leave only 40 minutes for older songs, which would be like 5 more songs. That would be a short set. :lol
I am thinking they would do the epic, one almost 10 minute song and two of the 6-7 minute songs. The set would likely open with "TA" but it would be neat if they changed it up and opened with a different track like they did by opening the ADTOE tour with Bridges In The Sky. That's 4 off the new album, leaving almost an hour and a half of older songs.
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Friday, October 29 in San Diego, and Monday, November 1 in Oakland.
That likely means an LA area show on Saturday the 30th!
Happy birthday to me!
BUT...kinda bummed to have an opening band because that likely means DT will be playing a shorter set. I've never heard of Arch Echo (they don't even have a Wikipedia page). Anyone know anything about them?
Yep, according to AXS, LA show will be at Microsoft Theater on 10/30. Hopefully, this time if I get a ticket, I won't have some dude in the front row of my section standing on the chair just to get a good view and block everyone else.
https://www.axs.com/events/409559/dream-theater-tickets
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No Dallas show, and they're not high enough on my radar to warrant a drive down to Austin. Particularly given what I expect will be exorbitant ticket prices. Besides, if they follow their recent pattern, they'll probably announce a second leg with a better setlist. :lol
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Pfft, forget celebrating 8v and SFaM anniversaries.. they should have played all of WDADU again for its 30th a few years ago.
And I say that in all seriousness.
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No Dallas show, and they're not high enough on my radar to warrant a drive down to Austin. Particularly given what I expect will be exorbitant ticket prices. Besides, if they follow their recent pattern, they'll probably announce a second leg with a better setlist. :lol
Seems like they are playing Dec 9 at The Factory in Deep Ellum. Tickets through AXS, not TM.
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No Dallas show, and they're not high enough on my radar to warrant a drive down to Austin. Particularly given what I expect will be exorbitant ticket prices. Besides, if they follow their recent pattern, they'll probably announce a second leg with a better setlist. :lol
Seems like they are playing Dec 9 at The Factory in Deep Ellum. Tickets through AXS, not TM.
Ah, didn't catch that. Thanks.
Ugh, The Bomb Factory (as it was known up until last week) may be the worst venue in Dallas. Now part of me actually wants to drive to Austin just to save myself the aggravation of seeing them locally. :lol.
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Just gave Arch Echo a listen while making dinner...really fun instrumental stuff. Should be a solid warm up band.
Also wen't to there Facebook, and I think I prematurely spilled the beans to their fans :P :laugh:
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Bunch of bad dates for me. Might end up skipping this tour, which would be the first I miss since ADTOE.
Not sure why the are playing in Kings theater. Hard to get to and has bad sound.
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I wonder what the Artist Pre-sale means for the tickets that go on sale Tuesday morning? I found the local pre-sale code, but that's on sale Wednesday. Is there a place other than FB where DT would give exclusive access?
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I wonder what the Artist Pre-sale means for the tickets that go on sale Tuesday morning? I found the local pre-sale code, but that's on sale Wednesday. Is there a place other than FB where DT would give exclusive access?
I was wondering the same thing. For the Seattle show Ticketmaster lists the Tuesday pre-sale as "Artist Fan Club Pre-sale" while the Wednesday pre-sale is listed as "Promoter Pre-Sale". The code for the Wednesday one was indeed listed on FB by Emporium Presents. I haven't seen anything regarding a code on Dream Theater World.
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Nevermind.
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I’m going to an outdoor Primus show in 3 weeks, and I’m a bit nervous about it.
Not sure how I feel about being in a closed theater with the variant creeping around.
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I’m going to an outdoor Primus show in 3 weeks, and I’m a bit nervous about it.
Not sure how I feel about being in a closed theater with the variant creeping around.
Yeah - this might be the first DT tour that I skip. Maybe I'll change my mind as it gets closer, but I definitely won't be buying any presale tickets. I was really hoping they'd just wait until 2022 for a tour.
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I’m looking at Brooklyn and seeing sites where they want 200 minimum for Seats...is that legit
I’ve got family up there and wanted to possibly fly up and see them but geez..may just have to go to Dallas again
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I wonder what the Artist Pre-sale means for the tickets that go on sale Tuesday morning? I found the local pre-sale code, but that's on sale Wednesday. Is there a place other than FB where DT would give exclusive access?
I am wondering about this also. I would obviously like to get the tickets first thing tomorrow...
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Does Arch Echo not have a Wikipedia page? How is that possible in 2021? HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO LEARN ABOUT SOMETHING WITHOUT A WIKIPEDIA PAGE?@!
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Does Arch Echo not have a Wikipedia page? How is that possible in 2021? HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO LEARN ABOUT SOMETHING WITHOUT A WIKIPEDIA PAGE?@!
You Google and go to their website. :biggrin:
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I know, I know... I am just surprised a band that is tagged to tour with a big name (in our niche) like DT would have a Wikipedia page. And it isn't like they are brand new to the scene.
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I know, I know... I am just surprised a band that is tagged to tour with a big name (in our niche) like DT would have a Wikipedia page. And it isn't like they are brand new to the scene.
Yeah, I was surprised when I went to look them up as well. I was all, wow, that's interesting, I thought they'd be more well known enough to have a Wiki page but I guess not. :lol
But this tour, will bring them a lot more new fans, because I think these guys are that good live.
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How does one get in on the “Artist Presale”?
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How does one get in on the “Artist Presale”?
I can't figure that out. I think they don't always have it, the DT fanclub doesn't have one as far as I know. Makes me think the "platinum presale", which is the other option tomorrow, is a scheme to get us to pay the high prices. It's like they can sell at inflated rates, even though they aren't scalped. And the fans wanting to get the good seats, go with that or wait until the Live Nation presale the next day. Sigh. Saw a fellow DT Fan on FB refer to us having to deal with TicketBastard. :\
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The Facebook password METROPOLIS seemed to work for me.
EDIT: But I will note that I was not able to buy tickets on my desktop for some reason. Had to execute the transaction on my iPad.
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Kinda odd that the artist presale is different days for some dates.
On the LiveNation/TM event page, the Akron date very clearly has the artist presale listed for Wednesday, and the venue/LN presale listed for Thursday.
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Does anyone have the LN/TM pre-sale PW?
Also, how come DT hasn't announced this tour yet?
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I’m looking at Brooklyn and seeing sites where they want 200 minimum for Seats...is that legit
I’ve got family up there and wanted to possibly fly up and see them but geez..may just have to go to Dallas again
Thirty-five to one-thirty down here. Those $35 seats are probably not seats at all, but SRO in the back, I reckon. Factor in TT&L and I suspect you're looking at $80-160 if you want to sit down.
Myself, my interest in DT has almost slipped into negative territory, but I don't feel like I can skip them if they're in town. I'll be grabbing the cheapest proper seat I can get.
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This was the most :censored experience. I had 2 laptops. For 2 venues. "Couldn't complete on my device". There were good seats available. I kept clicking both, seeing if they would go thru. 1 did, in the good seats. I just hit complete as I had set up etc with my cc. I look at my email and it's balcony seats on the side. Wth? I guess I should have watched better. But I most certainly didn't click on those. I could never get anything after that. So I will try again tomorrow. Makes me mad. :tdwn
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Been in communication with the DT Staff manager....she hasn't been given the password. 'Metropolis' was probably a lucky guess for the one venue. I tried various phrases for DC, 'DT15' got me through all the way up to purchasing an individual seat, and then shut me down. >:(
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This was the most :censored experience. I had 2 laptops. For 2 venues. "Couldn't complete on my device". There were good seats available. I kept clicking both, seeing if they would go thru. 1 did, in the good seats. I just hit complete as I had set up etc with my cc. I look at my email and it's balcony seats on the side. Wth? I guess I should have watched better. But I most certainly didn't click on those. I could never get anything after that. So I will try again tomorrow. Makes me mad. :tdwn
Had the same problem; as someone else mentioned above, for some reason using a PC doesn't appear to work (as if I needed *another* reason to despise TicketBastard) - but a quick download of their app on my cell phone solved the problem.
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It shouldn't be this hard to let your fans attend your shows. :facepalm:
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This was the most :censored experience. I had 2 laptops. For 2 venues. "Couldn't complete on my device". There were good seats available. I kept clicking both, seeing if they would go thru. 1 did, in the good seats. I just hit complete as I had set up etc with my cc. I look at my email and it's balcony seats on the side. Wth? I guess I should have watched better. But I most certainly didn't click on those. I could never get anything after that. So I will try again tomorrow. Makes me mad. :tdwn
Had the same problem; as someone else mentioned above, for some reason using a PC doesn't appear to work (as if I needed *another* reason to despise TicketBastard) - but a quick download of their app on my cell phone solved the problem.
I also tried that as well and got the same message. Going from so hyped, to remembering how crappy buying tickets can be. Glad you got through!
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The Facebook password METROPOLIS seemed to work for me.
EDIT: But I will note that I was not able to buy tickets on my desktop for some reason. Had to execute the transaction on my iPad.
I had the same issue with using my laptop. Had to switch to my phone for purchase.
For Cincinnati I found the presale code PANIC by (briefly) signing up here: https://presale.codes/
It cost me $6.95, but I was able to cancel the subscription immediately after.
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For Cincinnati I found the presale code PANIC by (briefly) signing up here: https://presale.codes/
Can confirm that PANIC works at the Cincinnati location. Was able to purchase tickets.
Thank you.
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PANIC worked for the San Diego show. Now I just need to decide if I want to wait for the LA show on a Saturday (and be subject to whatever stupid restrictions might be in place in LA at that time) or drag my ass down to San Diego on a Friday.
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Did the Akron band presale get canceled? The TM page showed it starting tomorrow, and now it's gone, and there's now a platinum presale on Thursday, along with the already announced venue/LiveNation presale.
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The Facebook password METROPOLIS seemed to work for me.
EDIT: But I will note that I was not able to buy tickets on my desktop for some reason. Had to execute the transaction on my iPad.
I had the same issue with using my laptop. Had to switch to my phone for purchase.
For Cincinnati I found the presale code PANIC by (briefly) signing up here: https://presale.codes/
It cost me $6.95, but I was able to cancel the subscription immediately after.
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Can I send $3.50 your way? I used the Panic code for the Austin show and it worked. I managed to get great seats, dead center, first row, in the balcony.
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PANIC or panic worked for DC! Thank you.
Front row upper level again. Woot! Woot!
Might host a preshow at the Elephant & Castle again, or the Marriott. Almost eighty people showed up there three years ago.
(crossing my fingers as to C19)
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So, I just said screw it and bought aftermarket tickets. Got good seats and it wasn't as expensive as I thought.
So...that was fun :mehlin
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Thank you thank you! PANIC worked for me for DC as well. Eighth row in front of JP!
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Yep.....PANIC worked for me as well. Purchased for St. Louis. Being that I'm buying for Five people now and not just me.....we're first row Balcony. I love the fact my kids are in to DT as well but man.....it was sure a lot less expensive when they weren't going to these concerts! :lol
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Just want to make it clear: I've not been in contact with anyone regarding a fan club pre-sale code, so I have no idea what that is about...
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Psyched for the Charlotte NC date! It's nice to just drive to a show and sleep in my own bed the same night. Hopefully we'll get an Asheville date next cycle too so I'll have an excuse to go back to Asheville :biggrin:
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METROPOLIS has worked, IMAGES worked in Milwaukee, PANIC in DC and Chicago from what I've been following on Fbook. So odd......
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PANIC or panic worked for DC! Thank you.
Front row upper level again. Woot! Woot!
Might host a preshow at the Elephant & Castle again, or the Marriott. Almost eighty people showed up there three years ago.
(crossing my fingers as to C19)
Thanks for this post - I also unlocked with PANIC and got a pair of AA front row balcony! If I'm not in for VIP, I like front row balcony for my daughter since she's not tall - I am not sure yet if she can come with me, so I just grabbed a pair and we'll see - I understand the couple comments of "maybe I'll skip this tour" and I am not as jazzed as I was for Scenes anniversary, BUT I learned from skipping R40 and Covid that you can never assume there will be another tour. Unless you're Kiss or Slayer, those dudes never die. I did VIP solo and VIP with my kids, had my daughter pulled on stage for Astonishing, we're not looking to top it anymore, just being in the room will be enough.
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I’m going to an outdoor Primus show in 3 weeks, and I’m a bit nervous about it.
Not sure how I feel about being in a closed theater with the variant creeping around.
Yeah - this might be the first DT tour that I skip. Maybe I'll change my mind as it gets closer, but I definitely won't be buying any presale tickets. I was really hoping they'd just wait until 2022 for a tour.
I wonder if this is why they are bringing an opener this time around? Maybe they expect to draw a bit less playing indoor theaters? I've actually been rooting for them to bring an opener for awhile now so I'm not upset. I will try to be at the Red Bank show, very local for me and I've seen them there twice before. :metal
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Did JP or anyone else happen to mention at all why they decided to go with an opener on this tour?
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Did JP or anyone else happen to mention at all why they decided to go with an opener on this tour?
Not yet, since "we don't know about the tour yet" ;) but they aren't getting any younger :lol, might be something to consider.
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Well, if they're interested in promoting other bands while reducing their set from 3 to 2 hours, I'd say that makes perfect sense. However, deciding on a shorter setlist might prove to be more difficult. ???
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Did JP or anyone else happen to mention at all why they decided to go with an opener on this tour?
Not yet, since "we don't know about the tour yet" ;) but they aren't getting any younger :lol, might be something to consider.
I haven't spoken to JP about that, specifically. But keep in mind that they have done a LOT of "evening with" format tours for the last few album cycles. That takes a toll, especially on a singer. I wouldn't be surprised if James threatened to rebel if they didn't knock off the evening with shows for awhile.
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Or, short of that, don’t feature a lot of songs that require belting at a high pitch.
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Well, if they're interested in promoting other bands while reducing their set from 3 to 2 hours, I'd say that makes perfect sense. However, deciding on a shorter setlist might prove to be more difficult. ???
I converted my Distant Memories Live In London to mp3 and, when I put it on VLC player, in the nights DT played Fall Into the Light, it was "only" 2:23:31 of music. So I don't think to reduce the show to 2 hours will be such a big difference.
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Well, if they're interested in promoting other bands while reducing their set from 3 to 2 hours, I'd say that makes perfect sense. However, deciding on a shorter setlist might prove to be more difficult. ???
I converted my Distant Memories Live In London to mp3 and, when I put it on VLC player, in the nights DT played Fall Into the Light, it was "only" 2:23:31 of music. So I don't think to reduce the show to 2 hours will be such a big difference.
and TA shows were a tad shorter. I'd guess their set with an opener would be closer to 1 hour 50 minutes. Still plenty of time to perform a full set. Yeah, it won't be as much as an evening with, but I don't expect the cuts to a few songs to really bother me. I'd be even more enthused if it meant some rotation in the set list, although I don't expect to see this show more than once as of now.
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Did JP or anyone else happen to mention at all why they decided to go with an opener on this tour?
Not yet, since "we don't know about the tour yet" ;) but they aren't getting any younger :lol, might be something to consider.
I haven't spoken to JP about that, specifically. But keep in mind that they have done a LOT of "evening with" format tours for the last few album cycles. That takes a toll, especially on a singer. I wouldn't be surprised if James threatened to rebel if they didn't knock off the evening with shows for awhile.
Also, they've been off for over a year which has never happened to them - at their age, they might feel it's best to work their way back up to 3 hour shows again.
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I suspect it is a lot of different factors. But I know these guys are hungry to get out and play again, and I would expect a great show. And I will probably start poking at JP soon about the set, and will see if I can drop any little hints once I know anything. And if not, I'll fake like I can just to keep you all excited anyway. :biggrin:
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I suspect it is a lot of different factors. But I know these guys are hungry to get out and play again, and I would expect a great show. And I will probably start poking at JP soon about the set, and will see if I can drop any little hints once I know anything. And if not, I'll fake like I can just to keep you all excited anyway. :biggrin:
Oh, so we won't know what's true or not :justjen
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Well, I won't say anything false. I'm just good at misdirection. I have teenagers to learn from. :lol
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What Bosk is trying to say is that he's a really good magician! :lol
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Ok then, I will listen to you like your a teen. :|
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Bosk, don't expect you to know but, is there a reason why they always start the tour of the west coast?
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I suspect it is a lot of different factors.
I'm sure this is the case
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Well, I won't say anything false. I'm just good at misdirection. I have teenagers to learn from. :lol
King of Misdirection :lol
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Ok then, I will listen to you like your a teen. :|
Hope that didn't come off rude. :blush :)
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Bosk, don't expect you to know but, is there a reason why they always start the tour of the west coast?
They have clearly set the tour up so that they are home for Thanksgiving.
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Bosk, don't expect you to know but, is there a reason why they always start the tour of the west coast?
They have clearly set the tour up so that they are home for Thanksgiving.
:lol I don't get the feeling the band has much input on the tour scheduling, but I do wonder if they can put in certain requests... "be in the NYC area for Thanksgiving" for example as I'm pretty sure they already request to play theaters not GA ballrooms (unless maybe the scheduling only permits them to squeeze such a show in). I'm just guessing here, I have no idea but it certainly seems like bands have some slight control of things. I'm just going to be bummed if the ushers are out again. I hope that is in the past, easily the worst thing about a DT show IMO and that has clearly seemed to be a band request, not venue.
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Bosk, don't expect you to know but, is there a reason why they always start the tour of the west coast?
They have clearly set the tour up so that they are home for Thanksgiving.
:lol I don't get the feeling the band has much input on the tour scheduling, but I do wonder if they can put in certain requests... "be in the NYC area for Thanksgiving" for example as I'm pretty sure they already request to play theaters not GA ballrooms (unless maybe the scheduling only permits them to squeeze such a show in). I'm just guessing here, I have no idea but it certainly seems like bands have some slight control of things. I'm just going to be bummed if the ushers are out again. I hope that is in the past, easily the worst thing about a DT show IMO and that has clearly seemed to be a band request, not venue.
I absolutely feel like that can say, we want to spend Thanksgiving at home, let's be in that part of the country at that point.
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Did JP or anyone else happen to mention at all why they decided to go with an opener on this tour?
Not yet, since "we don't know about the tour yet" ;) but they aren't getting any younger :lol, might be something to consider.
I haven't spoken to JP about that, specifically. But keep in mind that they have done a LOT of "evening with" format tours for the last few album cycles. That takes a toll, especially on a singer. I wouldn't be surprised if James threatened to rebel if they didn't knock off the evening with shows for awhile.
Also, they've been off for over a year which has never happened to them - at their age, they might feel it's best to work their way back up to 3 hour shows again.
I doubt that's a factor. The guys in Rush would regularly take a year off or more in between tours, and they still managed well. Keep in mind that since there was just the 3 of them, they did a lot more juggling during a show than the DT guys. However, they did have the luxury of not playing consecutive dates and were able to split up their tour legs so that they weren't performing anywhere near as many dates as DT does in a comparable amount of time. I'd imagine that JL's ability to perform could be more of a factor in terms of age than the rest of the guys.
Bosk, don't expect you to know but, is there a reason why they always start the tour of the west coast?
Dunno about the Thanksgiving factor, but it could be just the best routing option that they had. Plus being on the west coast, where the music industry is located might play into it. Nevermind that there are probably more venue options for them to pick from for rehearsals than other parts of the country. Even the fact that the weather is milder on the west coast during that time of year could be a possibility, although I doubt it was.
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Although I do enjoy the 3-hour DT shows, I'm fine with knocking a bit of time off and watching an opener. I'd rather the health and longevity of the band come first, and if that means shorter shows that are probably still 2 hours long, it'll still be a fantastic show!
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Although I do enjoy the 3-hour DT shows, I'm fine with knocking a bit of time off and watching an opener. I'd rather the health and longevity of the band come first, and if that means shorter shows that are probably still 2 hours long, it'll still be a fantastic show!
I agree. In DT's case, I think it's okay to have one opener... Especially if it's a band that the DT audience will enjoy.
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Although I do enjoy the 3-hour DT shows, I'm fine with knocking a bit of time off and watching an opener. I'd rather the health and longevity of the band come first, and if that means shorter shows that are probably still 2 hours long, it'll still be a fantastic show!
Yeah let’s face it, we’re greedy and we want as much DT as we can get. And I’m a little bummed that they’re bringing an opening act out this time, but whatever it is what it is. But to look on the bright side, shorter set time might mean more energy. And like Bosk said, these guys are hungry to play so the performance will probably be even better
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I became a fan in 2006 and right after they had stopped doing "evening with" shows, so for a long time, that's all I wanted to see. Eventually they returned to doing them and I was ecstatic. But over time, I kind of felt like they started milking it. No rotating set lists, shorter and shorter sets (they still do a longer than normal headline set, but not the longer ones they used to do). Once the spontaneity was removed and I saw most of the same songs over and over again (yes, DT does a great job rotating songs, but after ~20 shows, you've seen many repeats) I started thinking I'd rather them bring out a younger band that the audience may like and also may draw new fans to DT to keep things fresh. I'm pretty happy about this decision. I think it's best for both DT and the opener. Also to add, when DT would hit the stage, it was usually not to a huge crowd as people would still be getting in and also not really be ready for the music just yet. An opener bridges that gap, loosening the crowd up. We will still get a DT headlining show. Maybe the bands collab on something as the tour goes on. I miss seeing things like Dweezil Zappa playing Metropolis with DT for a special appearance at the NYC show as he was the opener and it allowed them to have a cool moment together.
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One other thing that's a benefit to encourage them *not* to carry an opener is they get to keep all the profits for themselves; when they have an opener (or openers), they gotta cover the opening band(s) costs and pay them a salary, too. So financially, they're better off going at it alone. Will be interesting to see if they stick with having opening bands going forward, or if this is just a matter of them changing it up.
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Super excited to see a Charlotte date, I'll be testing the presale code Thursday, hopefully it works
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My wife decided she wants to go to the San Diego show, so I bought a pair of tickets together, which means I need to unload the single ticket I bought earlier. Orchestra, second row (BB) center. Selling at face value. I've listed it in the DT-Bay area, so anyone interested can just DM me.
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One other thing that's a benefit to encourage them *not* to carry an opener is they get to keep all the profits for themselves; when they have an opener (or openers), they gotta cover the opening band(s) costs and pay them a salary, too. So financially, they're better off going at it alone. Will be interesting to see if they stick with having opening bands going forward, or if this is just a matter of them changing it up.
So the opening band for DT isn't on their own, and don't have to "pay to play?" That's pretty cool if they opening band is actually getting a salary. I know some smaller bands that have opened for smaller bands than DT that have had to buy onto the tour and don't get anything but merch sales.
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I became a fan in 2006 and right after they had stopped doing "evening with" shows, so for a long time, that's all I wanted to see. Eventually they returned to doing them and I was ecstatic. But over time, I kind of felt like they started milking it. No rotating set lists, shorter and shorter sets (they still do a longer than normal headline set, but not the longer ones they used to do). Once the spontaneity was removed and I saw most of the same songs over and over again (yes, DT does a great job rotating songs, but after ~20 shows, you've seen many repeats) I started thinking I'd rather them bring out a younger band that the audience may like and also may draw new fans to DT to keep things fresh. I'm pretty happy about this decision. I think it's best for both DT and the opener. Also to add, when DT would hit the stage, it was usually not to a huge crowd as people would still be getting in and also not really be ready for the music just yet. An opener bridges that gap, loosening the crowd up. We will still get a DT headlining show. Maybe the bands collab on something as the tour goes on. I miss seeing things like Dweezil Zappa playing Metropolis with DT for a special appearance at the NYC show as he was the opener and it allowed them to have a cool moment together.
I'd much prefer a DT evening with set, but if I go to a show, I'm not going to complain about it either. And as you pointed out, their evening with sets have been getting a bit shorter so I don't think their set time will be cut by that much.
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One other thing that's a benefit to encourage them *not* to carry an opener is they get to keep all the profits for themselves; when they have an opener (or openers), they gotta cover the opening band(s) costs and pay them a salary, too. So financially, they're better off going at it alone. Will be interesting to see if they stick with having opening bands going forward, or if this is just a matter of them changing it up.
So the opening band for DT isn't on their own, and don't have to "pay to play?" That's pretty cool if they opening band is actually getting a salary. I know some smaller bands that have opened for smaller bands than DT that have had to buy onto the tour and don't get anything but merch sales.
Nope, unless it's changed. Here's what MP had to say in the interview I did with him in 2009:
SH: In the last interview I read in the New Voice fanzine, you had mentioned wanting to make ProgNation a 5-band festival bill, and yet both the North American and European tours feature 4 bands.
MP: Once again, it’s another – mainly financial – logistical nightmare. At the start of this tour, in all the meetings I had with our booking agent, I was pushing for a 5-band thing that would start at 3 in the afternoon. And once again, there’s just so many behind the scenes reasons why those things are so much harder to implement than they appear on paper. Adding a fifth band on this tour is another bus, another 10 people you have to feed each day at catering – we pay for all the catering. Then there’s all the union fees – that means that load-in is gonna have to be that much earlier, the local hands at every show… It just gets harder and harder and harder, the more bands you have on the bill. There’s a million reasons why it is difficult. And believe me, my agent and my manager were trying to make Progressive Nation 3 bands. I put my foot down and said it’s gotta be at least four. I mean the Queensrÿche show in Maryland was a one-off example, but it’s a very big expense to do a tour like that. To be honest with you, this is the first tour in a very long time where we’re not making money – we’re breaking even. In addition to ticket sales being really light this summer – for every tour – which surely hurt us, we’re paying Zappa a lot of money and all of the other bands and the catering, the union fees and blah blah blah. At the end of the day, it would be way more financially feasible to do an evening with tour and just pocket the money ourselves. But to me, I want to offer something more to the fans. And I know that’s a debate – I know a lot of people would prefer an evening with – it would make more sense for it to be an evening with, but those 3 hour shows are tough on us.
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That Queensryche show in Maryland was the first time I saw Dream Theater. In fact, when the band came on, I saw some sleeveless hooded lead guitarist blasting away, a bald headed goateed lead singer in sunglasses walk up to the mic, and me and my wife are like 'this is an odd looking band' but I recognized the tune. It was 'Open' as the opening song. And we looked at each other a few seconds later, and went 'WTF!?! That's Geoff Tate!' :lol
Didn't know it was a shared headlining tour. Just wish I didn't have to work 3rd shift that night, and leave before the combined encore.
Two bands are plenty for weeknights.
I really enjoyed Zappa Meets Zappa. Elf was odd. Trivium was not my style. Arch Echo will be kinda blase, same ol' same ol' without any vocals, but I'm sure there will be parts worthwhile. The inbetween intermission will be a nice anticipation period for a change.
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Didn't know it was a shared headlining tour. Just wish I didn't have to work 3rd shift that night, and leave before the combined encore.
It wasn't. They only did the shared headlining tour in 2003 with Fates Warning opening. In 2009, QR appeared at only one Progressive Nation show, and that was because they were booked in the same city on the same day as PN09, and the promoters asked if QR could be added to the bill since the turn out for QR would be dismal if they performed at a separate location. So DT was willing to let them be a part of that specific show. Zappa Plays Zappa was direct support for DT, so QR played before them, and there was no shared encore.
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Does anyone have the presale code for the Boston show (Wang Theatre) on November 23? I swear I saw it was "DT2021" somewhere before but now I can't find where that was.
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Scotty, that interview seems specific to the Prog Nation tour which was a bit different than a standard tour. Does that still apply to just a typical two band tour? Like Lethean, I've heard of similar stories where the openers pay to be on the bill, not the other way around. I'm guessing it kind of depends on tour and promoter really.
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Does anyone have the presale code for the Boston show (Wang Theatre) on November 23? I swear I saw it was "DT2021" somewhere before but now I can't find where that was.
(reposting for the new page, my apologies)
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Scotty, that interview seems specific to the Prog Nation tour which was a bit different than a standard tour. Does that still apply to just a typical two band tour? Like Lethean, I've heard of similar stories where the openers pay to be on the bill, not the other way around. I'm guessing it kind of depends on tour and promoter really.
It really depends on the band and if they're considerate enough to take less profit.
I will say though. People will go to this show just for Arch Echo and people will see Dream Theater again just for Arch Echo.
This is a perfect pairing for an opening band.
A great example of these bands paying to play is the Mayhem Festivals...Battlecross got invited to play, but they ended up having to set up a Crowdfunding page. I pledged and got the perk they had to watch from the side stage. I got a ticket, and was notified where to meet the band before they go on. I met them on the side of the stage, and they gave me a wristband and asked if I was 21, I was 24 and then the guitarist gave me a beer. Then I proceeded to the stage and they told me where to stand as the band members went back and got their gear before heading on stage.
That was neat and a great way to help the band fund their Mayhem tour, which you hope turns out more fans.
This past Uproar Tour I went to was a total failure and they didn't even sell enough tickets to open the grass in our venue. 😂 The bands on that lineup were not well known, and even at that were not that well known here. I only went for Circa Survive. I am sure those bands didn't make much at all, except for the mainstage bands. They didn't even have a side stage. They all used the mainstage. It was really horrible in terms of show.
I forgot...One of the most oddest pairing I've seen for an opening band is Coheed and Cambria opening up for Slipknot. I was not into Coheed at the time and was pregaming in the parking lot. We went in and this guy we know from home works for the security company for certain venues and he said Coheed were getting booed. I laughed and said, of course, who thought this pairing was a good idea, especially here in New Mexico. New Mexico still holds the Metal Ideology of music and considers Coheed chicky music, at least all the Slipknot Metal heads do.
Yet, when Coheed comes, they can pack the venue pretty good.
Sometimes these lineup are made by the record companies that pair their bands on their label together. Which is what I think happened with Slipknot and Coheed and Cambria.
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Does anyone have the presale code for the Boston show (Wang Theatre) on November 23? I swear I saw it was "DT2021" somewhere before but now I can't find where that was.
(reposting for the new page, my apologies)
PANIC seems to be the one working for most people yesterday. Might be the same for Today's presale.
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Bosk, don't expect you to know but, is there a reason why they always start the tour of the west coast?
Dunno about the Thanksgiving factor, but it could be just the best routing option that they had. Plus being on the west coast, where the music industry is located might play into it. Nevermind that there are probably more venue options for them to pick from for rehearsals than other parts of the country. Even the fact that the weather is milder on the west coast during that time of year could be a possibility, although I doubt it was.
Thank you Scotty, I didn't think about rehearsal space and I think that makes the most sense as a reason to start in CA.
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I'm all trying to buy tickets and they don't go onsale until 10am....It's 8:45 here... :loser: :facepalm: :lol
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St. Louis and Minneapolis here we come! :metal
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CT show on my birthday weekend :metal :metal :metal
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:natalieportman: :'( tried multiple codes for the NY show and none worked. I guess I'll wait for general sale and hope there are still good seats left.
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The code for the Boston show should be MARQUEE, just got a new email with it.
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The code for the Boston show should be MARQUEE, just got a new email with it.
Thank you!
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So how does this work? If I have a Citi credit card, I can order 2 days before those that don't?
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So how does this work? If I have a Citi credit card, I can order 2 days before those that don't?
Looks like CT has a citi presale so yes. I believe your "presale code" is the last 6 numbers on your card (maybe the first 6).
I might do CT then, it might be better than Brooklyn anyways.
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So how does this work? If I have a Citi credit card, I can order 2 days before those that don't?
Looks like CT has a citi presale so yes. I believe your "presale code" is the last 6 numbers on your card (maybe the first 6).
I might do CT then, it might be better than Brooklyn anyways.
Cool. Thanks! For what it's worth, the place they play at in CT is IMO the best venue in our state. It's an awesome place to see any concert, especially a band like DT. It is a "comfy" venue though. Lots of people prefer to sit during the show.
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Is there a regular presale code for Chicago? Not citi
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....aaaaaand the website crashed.
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....aaaaaand the website crashed.
Try again, mine crash so I reopened and I was able to get second (really front row) tickets on section 101 :metal Thanks for letting me know about the Citi presale.
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2nd row center on the aisle of Balcony, just behind Mezzanine. $175 for two tickets..I can live with that.
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Does anyone have the presale code for the Boston show (Wang Theatre) on November 23? I swear I saw it was "DT2021" somewhere before but now I can't find where that was.
(reposting for the new page, my apologies)
Thank you for sharing this code, just got a front row center ticket for the NJ show, total after fees: $117. There were also the $35 tickets in the back that I would normally buy but since I saw the opportunity for front row, I'm in!
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We had front row center tix for the Black Clouds show and it was amazing.
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We had front row center tix for the Black Clouds show and it was amazing.
Was in the front row for TA tour, it was like they were performing for me personally it felt. I've been pretty big on just buying the cheap last row tickets for DT lately, but couldn't resist when having the opportunity for front row. I'm kind of a front or last row person for DT these days and I'm not usually fortunate enough to score front row.
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....aaaaaand the website crashed.
Try again, mine crash so I reopened and I was able to get second (really front row) tickets on section 101 :metal Thanks for letting me know about the Citi presale.
I got mine too.
I have to say, this really aggravates me even though it's not where I was going to sit. This was as soon as the tickets were released. All the tickets that the biggest fans would want are already spoken for. I ended up getting the two seats where I put that red marker (prime sitting seats not obstructed by sound booth and crew). I would have liked that front row right on the railing, but those are already spoken for as well.
(https://preview.redd.it/bpemn278azd71.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=83dd4e1557445bb7666384839121e51b6a6bfa09)
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The Facebook password METROPOLIS seemed to work for me.
EDIT: But I will note that I was not able to buy tickets on my desktop for some reason. Had to execute the transaction on my iPad.
I had the same issue with using my laptop. Had to switch to my phone for purchase.
For Cincinnati I found the presale code PANIC by (briefly) signing up here: https://presale.codes/ (https://presale.codes/)
It cost me $6.95, but I was able to cancel the subscription immediately after.
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Can I send $3.50 your way? I used the Panic code for the Austin show and it worked. I managed to get great seats, dead center, first row, in the balcony.
Thanks for the offer, but no need. I'm just glad to be of help.
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Toronto is pretty much 1/2 sold already. Rochester is actually closer to me (depending on the border status come November). It too has limited seats available. Think I'll just see what things are like the week of the show, in case any 'allocated but not sold' tickets come back into the pool. >$200 CAD for a single ticket isn't getting me terribly excited. I'll have to see how interesting the album is come October, and then decide.
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2nd row center on the aisle of Balcony, just behind Mezzanine. $175 for two tickets..I can live with that.
You're one row in front of me!
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2nd row center on the aisle of Balcony, just behind Mezzanine. $175 for two tickets..I can live with that.
You're one row in front of me!
Balc C Row F seats 113-114
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2nd row center on the aisle of Balcony, just behind Mezzanine. $175 for two tickets..I can live with that.
You're one row in front of me!
Balc C Row F seats 113-114
Scratch that, same row! We're seats 108-110.
How the fuck did that happen. :lol Unintentional DTF meetup!
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Didn't know it was a shared headlining tour. Just wish I didn't have to work 3rd shift that night, and leave before the combined encore.
It wasn't. They only did the shared headlining tour in 2003 with Fates Warning opening. In 2009, QR appeared at only one Progressive Nation show, and that was because they were booked in the same city on the same day as PN09, and the promoters asked if QR could be added to the bill since the turn out for QR would be dismal if they performed at a separate location. So DT was willing to let them be a part of that specific show. Zappa Plays Zappa was direct support for DT, so QR played before them, and there was no shared encore.
Sorry, Setlist, I didn't see that 2009 comment in between. I was at both shows. In '09, I saw them with a friend from Tennessee up in Philly (the dramatic curtain drop got hung up). The next night, a friend from Philly came down to see that Qryche/ZMZ/DT show at Merriweather in Columbia. Sadly, I was so disillusioned with Qryche at the time, as was my friend, that we skipped their segment. Absolute killer versions/video backdrops for 'Sacrificed Sons' and 'The Count of Tuscany' that I wish I had videos of. I'll never forget those standout performances.
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2nd row center on the aisle of Balcony, just behind Mezzanine. $175 for two tickets..I can live with that.
You're one row in front of me!
Balc C Row F seats 113-114
Scratch that, same row! We're seats 108-110.
How the fuck did that happen. :lol Unintentional DTF meetup!
Oh shit. Definitely.
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Scotty, that interview seems specific to the Prog Nation tour which was a bit different than a standard tour. Does that still apply to just a typical two band tour? Like Lethean, I've heard of similar stories where the openers pay to be on the bill, not the other way around. I'm guessing it kind of depends on tour and promoter really.
I would imagine that it's even more applicable when there's one opener instead of three! If they're willing to cover the costs and even pay three bands, why wouldn't they do it for just one band? Don't forget MP compared having openers to just going at it alone - so I don't think it matters whether it's one opener or four.
I've heard the pay-for-play bit too, but DT doesn't strike me as being that kind of a band. I'd imagine that's more for festivals anyway where money is stretched much more thinly (as was the case with PN09). And honestly, I doubt the promoter has anything to do with that anyway - at least for DT. AFAIK, they haven't allowed any promoters to stick a local band on the bill for the last 25 years, aside from the summer "festival" run of shows DT did in the summer of 2019. Don't have any idea of how they handled it for those shows, but I could see that being an exception to the rule. But taking out specific openers, I'd imagine DT pays them something and covers the other costs.
In general, I believe that a deal is struck between the promoter and DT's management for a certain guarantee - whether the band chooses to give a cut of that to the opener(s) or not is something unrelated to management's deal with the promoter.
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Scored two tickets in the Orchestra section, which is 3 rows from the stage, almost in the middle more towards JM's side. :metal :metal
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Im so excited... my daughter had a friend who is into DT and had a Kings Theater presale code ..it was like 10:00 and 30 seconds and she got thru on Ticketmaster ...
5th ROW DEAD CENTER 4 tickets...... NYC HERE I COME IN THE FALL
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I read this long ago on one of the best selling music business books.
Usually the openers don't get paid by the band (but the band may pay them). The opening band usually foots the bill on everything but may be partially or completely covered by the headliner. The opening band just survives on the income generated by the merch sales (if they don't get paid by the opener) and usually opening bands operate at a loss but they get a lot of publicity there (hence more sales, more streams, etc.). I think for a band like Arch Echo, they will definitely get a huge exposure and appeal for the DT crowd.
In the case of Prog Nation, that was sold to promoters as a package. So the promoter fees had to be split between DT and the rest of the bands (probably based on percentage since DT was the "headliner" and organizer of the package).
When I first saw Arch Echo, two of the guys were the backing band for Tony MacAlpine. Those members got paid by Tony. The others didn't but were working as stage hands, and running the merch stand for both Tony and AE.
For a band like Dream Theater, I don't think adding one or two hotel rooms and catering for 4-5 guys will ruin or affect DT's pockets. I think they'll probably be taken care of (at least food and boarding, possibly transportation). Ultimately, it depends on the arrangement between both of the bands' managers.
I'm completely stoked by this lineup.
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I read this long ago on one of the best selling music business books.
Usually the openers don't get paid by the band (but the band may pay them). The opening band usually foots the bill on everything but may be partially or completely covered by the headliner. The opening band just survives on the income generated by the merch sales (if they don't get paid by the opener) and usually opening bands operate at a loss but they get a lot of publicity there (hence more sales, more streams, etc.). I think for a band like Arch Echo, they will definitely get a huge exposure and appeal for the DT crowd.
In the case of Prog Nation, that was sold to promoters as a package. So the promoter fees had to be split between DT and the rest of the bands (probably based on percentage since DT was the "headliner" and organizer of the package).
When I first saw Arch Echo, two of the guys were the backing band for Tony MacAlpine. Those members got paid by Tony. The others didn't but were working as stage hands, and running the merch stand for both Tony and AE.
For a band like Dream Theater, I don't think adding one or two hotel rooms and catering for 4-5 guys will ruin or affect DT's pockets. I think they'll probably be taken care of (at least food and boarding, possibly transportation). Ultimately, it depends on the arrangement between both of the bands' managers.
I'm completely stoked by this lineup.
That is likely what is happening.
I am also completely stoked, more so excited to see Arch Echo again, even if it is just an opening set, mainly in hopes they play Measure of A Life.
Being that they're bringing an opening band. I am expecting Dream Theater to have no static setlist and I do hope they rotate most of the songs from both the old and new songs. That would make for a great change of pace, and one that would be more beneficial for the fans getting a shorter set-time. I think this tour would be the perfect opportunity.
But I won't know until I go see them right. And I am really excited to be going to the first Dream Theater show since the Pandemic. So I don't have to have the worry of not looking at the setlist spoilers. :biggrin:
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Well get to see them again in Nashville. Should be interesting to see what the set list will look like. I wonder if all band members will have input with the set list?
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Well get to see them again in Nashville. Should be interesting to see what the set list will look like. I wonder if all band members will have input with the set list?
If anything, I hope S2N makes it's debut
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The Facebook password METROPOLIS seemed to work for me.
EDIT: But I will note that I was not able to buy tickets on my desktop for some reason. Had to execute the transaction on my iPad.
Thanks, this code worked for me for the Seattle show. I was able to buy tickets from my desktop as well.
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Well get to see them again in Nashville. Should be interesting to see what the set list will look like. I wonder if all band members will have input with the set list?
If anything, I hope S2N makes it's debut
Watch them end up playing Out of Reach instead, and playing Barstool Warrior as the only D/T songs. :lol
That's one issue I have with coming up with a set that they may end up making. Is how much are they going to give to D/T and the songs they played on Distant Memories.
I would like them to do both Room 137 and S2N, and then use At Wit's End as the set closer.
What I would not mind either is if they only played two songs from the new album live and use the rest of the set for other songs. Then on the second leg go all out with the new songs.
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Well get to see them again in Nashville. Should be interesting to see what the set list will look like. I wonder if all band members will have input with the set list?
If anything, I hope S2N makes it's debut
Watch them end up playing Out of Reach instead, and playing Barstool Warrior as the only D/T songs. :lol
That's one issue I have with coming up with a set that they may end up making. Is how much are they going to give to D/T and the songs they played on Distant Memories.
I would like them to do both Room 137 and S2N, and then use At Wit's End as the set closer.
What I would not mind either is if they only played two songs from the new album live and use the rest of the set for other songs. Then on the second leg go all out with the new songs.
I'd prefer them to skip any of D/T and give us some songs they didn't play much of from DT. I'd love to hear 'Surrender to Reason' live which I don't think they've ever played live......I'd like to see 'Behind the Veil' live, which I think was only done once at an outdoor festival.
I'm kind of over the D/T live songs. I think they'll probably do one of them....but anymore than one of them (for me) would be a waste of allotted time where they could be playing something else. Gimme 'The Glass Prison' with Mangini on the drums so I can hear him nail every beat that was laid down in the studio and add his flare as well.
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Oh I definitely want the Glass Prison, maybe over any other song.
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I actually would love to see The Glass Prison in the setlist. I barely remember when I saw it at Gigantour.
The only one I actually do think would be for sure is Surrender to Reason.
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I read this long ago on one of the best selling music business books.
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Good info - thanks for sharing!
Being that they're bringing an opening band. I am expecting Dream Theater to have no static setlist and I do hope they rotate most of the songs from both the old and new songs.
That would be nice, but judging by their MO, I don't think it's gonna happen. Maybe they'll alternate 2 or 3 songs, but I doubt it will be anything more than that, although I'd be happy to be proven wrong!
I wonder if all band members will have input with the set list?
They probably have some input but JP probably has the final say.
What I would not mind either is if they only played two songs from the new album live and use the rest of the set for other songs. Then on the second leg go all out with the new songs.
I disagree. If this was a warm up leg like they used to do during the summer festival runs, then it would make sense. But for them supporting a brand new album, it doesn't. And in fact, by going that route, they would be sending a subliminal message that they're not confident in their new album despite all the hype they've been saying otherwise (kinda like what we're seeing in some "legacy" bands that put out new albums but feature only one or two songs from it - can you say "Queensryche"?). So I'd expect a minimum of 2 songs plus the epic to be in any given setlist. Given his love for the song, BW will probably be in the set again along with one other d/t track that hasn't been played yet. Much as I would like to see it, I can't imagine it being S2N since the vocals are so rapid fire in parts - JL would be completely out of breath, and I can't imagine them using taped vocals for parts of it. Maybe R137 or more likely OoR.
Oh I definitely want the Glass Prison, maybe over any other song.
Would be a welcome return to the set, but with those arpeggios(?) beginning at 2:22 being so challenging, I wonder if it will ever be brought back.
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Oh I definitely want the Glass Prison, maybe over any other song.
Would be a welcome return to the set, but with those arpeggios(?) beginning at 2:22 being so challenging, I wonder if it will ever be brought back.
Yeah, every tour that passes and this isn't brought back makes me feel less and less that it will be played again. At least I got to see MP's Shattered Fortress band perform it. Probably the highlight of that show for me.
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Being that they're bringing an opening band. I am expecting Dream Theater to have no static setlist and I do hope they rotate most of the songs from both the old and new songs.
That would be nice, but judging by their MO, I don't think it's gonna happen. Maybe they'll alternate 2 or 3 songs, but I doubt it will be anything more than that, although I'd be happy to be proven wrong!
Yeah, That's more likely what will happen.
What I would not mind either is if they only played two songs from the new album live and use the rest of the set for other songs. Then on the second leg go all out with the new songs.
I disagree. If this was a warm up leg like they used to do during the summer festival runs, then it would make sense. But for them supporting a brand new album, it doesn't. And in fact, by going that route, they would be sending a subliminal message that they're not confident in their new album despite all the hype they've been saying otherwise (kinda like what we're seeing in some "legacy" bands that put out new albums but feature only one or two songs from it - can you say "Queensryche"?). So I'd expect a minimum of 2 songs plus the epic to be in any given setlist. Given his love for the song, BW will probably be in the set again along with one other d/t track that hasn't been played yet. Much as I would like to see it, I can't imagine it being S2N since the vocals are so rapid fire in parts - JL would be completely out of breath, and I can't imagine them using taped vocals for parts of it. Maybe R137 or more likely OoR.
As I think more about it too, Barstool Warrior and Out of Reach are the more likely candidates. I do hope to be surprised and we do get S2N or Room 137 instead.
I'm actually more excited because I am going into the show actually not being able to know what songs are going to be played. Unless I decide to peak at possible setlist spoiler hints the ones in the know throw at us. :corn
No matter what song they play first I will be in awe.
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My set list wish list (with one exception, songs I've yet to see done live:
As much of SDOIT (the song) as they want to play (I missed the SDOIT tour, so I haven't heard most of it)
Stream of Consciousness
Wither (why has this song only ever been played twice in the U.S.?)
S2N
Out of Reach
There's nothing on ADTOE or DT12 that I haven't seen that I really care about (BTV or STR would be fine, but I don't really "need" either of them).
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bought tickets for the Boston show. Sitting in a box section. Should be cool.
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waiting patiently for the LA presale tomorrow... :metal
if anyone hears about a code please share! hoping to do the presale rather than the public onsale friday cause then I'd be juggling between buying DT tickets and tickets for the Metallica 40th anniversary shows at the same time :biggrin:
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Damn, they're actually playing in Ottawa again! I'm glad I won't have to travel to Montreal or Toronto this time. They played in Ottawa on their last tour, but it got announced late and I ended up buying the tickets to Kitchener right away. :lol
I wonder if, with the shorter sets, they're actually gonna learn 3 hours of music and do some rotating? I imagine probably not much if they do, but a bit of rotation like on the ADTOE tour would be neat.
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I wonder if, with the shorter sets, they're actually gonna learn 3 hours of music and do some rotating? I imagine probably not much if they do, but a bit of rotation like on the ADTOE tour would be neat.
Not a chance. If there's any variation, and I'd be amazed if there were, the cities that got gypped out of AWE on the D/T tour might get it in lieu of a new song (probably the best one). Really, though, I suspect they'd rather just play PMU again.
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Strange but I got a Live Nation email with the presale code of SUNNY this afternoon. WTF??
I already bought from TM this morning.
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Strange but I got a Live Nation email with the presale code of SUNNY this afternoon. WTF??
I already bought from TM this morning.
Live nation owns TM, it’s just another code to use since there’s generally multiple presale codes
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Got tickets to Minneapolis (thanks to the Artist Pre-Sale code I found here!). First Balcony Row A! Woot! Possibly the best seat in the house at State Theatre if you want a more chill concert going experience.
Will be my 6th time seeing them.
I’m hoping they play some songs they haven’t in awhile but I have a hunch it’s going to be SUPER New Album and D/T focused.
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Got my tickets for Chicago. Gonna be my 12th DT show. So stoked!!
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Does anyone know the refund policy if the Canada/US border stays closed or opens and then closes again before the show? Us Vancouver fans need to drive to Seattle this tour.
I tried to find the answer on their site but no luck.
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Here's hoping that the "Top of the world Tour" is indeed going to be a World Tour. Not sure what's about bands touring outside their own countries in the near future.
Just listening to Arch Echo right now. Really interesting stuff.
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Ready to pick up some tickets for the Charlotte show this morning, assuming I can get a presale code to work :lol
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Just listening to Arch Echo right now. Really interesting stuff.
Oh man, tell me about it! I was just checking out some of their youtube video's and they are insanely good. I came across this one song called "Earthshine" thinking it was going to be a Rush cover, I was so wrong.. :lol
This is Nerd prog at it's best, which is a good thing. :tup
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Got my Toronto tickets! Presale code "SUNNY" worked just fine!
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Bummer none of the codes seem to work for Charlotte, if I can't find one I'll see what the tickets are like for general sale tomorrow.
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FYI, SUNNY worked for Akron (which I got after trying a few other passwords).
2nd row balcony center!!
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Bummer none of the codes seem to work for Charlotte, if I can't find one I'll see what the tickets are like for general sale tomorrow.
Here's a running list I found last night:
METROPOLIS
SUNNY
PANIC
MARQUEE
IMAGES
SHARK
DT2021
DTTCT
GUITAR
WSOU
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Bummer, none of them seem to work :/
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I saw Arch Echo live, weeks before the pandemic shutdown. They were opening for Plini and Periphery. Really good stuff and fun stuff.
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Bummer, none of them seem to work :/
I'm sorry :(
"Sunny" only opened up the LiveNation pre-sale, and not the venue pre-sale.
Some people have said venue websites sometimes list their pre-sale passwords.
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Bummer, none of them seem to work :/
code for charlotte is: HOME
Ovens Auditorium issues special codes to their members/via their twitter. Enjoy the show brotha!
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Bummer, none of them seem to work :/
code for charlotte is: HOME
Ovens Auditorium issues special codes to their members/via their twitter. Enjoy the show brotha!
Holy crap that worked!!! Thank you!!! If you are coming to the Charlotte show let me know, I owe you a drink.
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Bummer, none of them seem to work :/
code for charlotte is: HOME
Ovens Auditorium issues special codes to their members/via their twitter. Enjoy the show brotha!
Holy crap that worked!!! Thank you!!! If you are coming to the Charlotte show let me know, I owe you a drink.
Just one fan looking out for another! My 5th post since 2007 so consider yourself lucky, I was just lurking because of all the news. Definitely be there!
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Bummer, none of them seem to work :/
code for charlotte is: HOME
Ovens Auditorium issues special codes to their members/via their twitter. Enjoy the show brotha!
Holy crap that worked!!! Thank you!!! If you are coming to the Charlotte show let me know, I owe you a drink.
Thanks!!! Of course, after I used the passcode you just gave me to purchase tickets, Ovens sent me an email with the presale code :lol
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Bummer, none of them seem to work :/
code for charlotte is: HOME
Ovens Auditorium issues special codes to their members/via their twitter. Enjoy the show brotha!
GOD BLESS YOU.. Worked for Nashville too
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I wonder if, with the shorter sets, they're actually gonna learn 3 hours of music and do some rotating? I imagine probably not much if they do, but a bit of rotation like on the ADTOE tour would be neat.
Not a chance. If there's any variation, and I'd be amazed if there were, the cities that got gypped out of AWE on the D/T tour might get it in lieu of a new song (probably the best one). Really, though, I suspect they'd rather just play PMU again.
Considering they rotated one song on the last tour, I'd say a similar rotation is very much possible. But anything more seems unlikely although I hope to see a nice rotation.
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One again they skip South Florida completely and go to Orlando and Sr. Petersburg (90 miles apart) where there is no metal scene and every club plays EDM. BS.
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The Facebook password METROPOLIS seemed to work for me.
EDIT: But I will note that I was not able to buy tickets on my desktop for some reason. Had to execute the transaction on my iPad.
Thanks, this code worked for me for the Seattle show. I was able to buy tickets from my desktop as well.
Tried the passcode for the nashville presale and it did not work. Hopefully some tickets will be available tomorrow for the regular sale. How do you get a passcode? I know sometimes you have to have a special credit card to be eligible for the code.
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So, who's going where to see what show?
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So, who's going where to see what show?
Oakland
Denver
Houston
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So, who's going where to see what show?
I'm holding off until early Nov for 4 reasons
Price
Location (90 min drive for me no matter what)
Status of the pandemic/border situation come November.
But most importantly, last time a tour was announced before an album dropped, I regretted spending my money (on the album, and on the concert).
I'll wait until I hear the album, and see what kind of seats get thrown back into the pool the week before the Toronto and/or Rochester shows.
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So, who's going where to see what show?
I'm holding off until early Nov for 4 reasons
Price
Location (90 min drive for me no matter what)
Status of the pandemic/border situation come November.
But most importantly, last time a tour was announced before an album dropped, I regretted spending my money (on the album, and on the concert).
I'll wait until I hear the album, and see what kind of seats get thrown back into the pool the week before the Toronto and/or Rochester shows.
That's kind of what I'm doing. I'm usually able to get decent tickets nearer to the show, and that's what I'm going to do here. I'm also kicking around two NMB shows, so there's that, too.
If I go to DT, it will be NYC, Wallingford or Boston. Wallingford is closest, but NYC and/or Boston are more fun. We'll see.
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One again they skip South Florida completely and go to Orlando and Sr. Petersburg (90 miles apart) where there is no metal scene and every club plays EDM. BS.
Given that the tour leg is ending in Florida (and therefore adding a date in southern Florida would not be a scheduling problem), I think it's safe to say you can thank the local promoters for not stepping up to the plate. I feel your pain more than you could possibly know, but be glad they're not *that* far away from you. I'm sure someone in Billings, MT would love for DT to be performing 3.5 hours away.
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So, who's going where to see what show?
I'm holding off until early Nov for 4 reasons
Price
Location (90 min drive for me no matter what)
Status of the pandemic/border situation come November.
But most importantly, last time a tour was announced before an album dropped, I regretted spending my money (on the album, and on the concert).
I'll wait until I hear the album, and see what kind of seats get thrown back into the pool the week before the Toronto and/or Rochester shows.
That's kind of what I'm doing. I'm usually able to get decent tickets nearer to the show, and that's what I'm going to do here. I'm also kicking around two NMB shows, so there's that, too.
If I go to DT, it will be NYC, Wallingford or Boston. Wallingford is closest, but NYC and/or Boston are more fun. We'll see.
Already got my ticket for the Boston show.
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Looks like they're skipping Albany this time. Next closest to me would be Boston or CT. Not sure if I justify that trip for a shorter gig, unless I combine it with something else.
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Plenty of codes out there, but none of them will work for the AXS site for Los Angeles. Anyone have any luck with Dallas, as that's also ticketed by AXS?
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Just got a seat in 5th row center for LA :metal
This will be my 12th DT show :hefdaddy
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Plenty of codes out there, but none of them will work for the AXS site for Los Angeles. Anyone have any luck with Dallas, as that's also ticketed by AXS?
If anyone is looking for LA, presale code is POPSICLE. General promoter presale code for LA area shows on sale this week
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So, who's going where to see what show?
I'm going to the Charlotte show. I'd like to try and make St. Pete too but I'm not sure if that will be possible.
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Looks like they're skipping Albany this time. Next closest to me would be Boston or CT. Not sure if I justify that trip for a shorter gig, unless I combine it with something else.
Go to the CT show and take a pizza tour of New Haven while you're here.
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So, who's going where to see what show?
Yes
(inB4 "no, we're talking about Dream Theater" or similar)
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Plenty of codes out there, but none of them will work for the AXS site for Los Angeles. Anyone have any luck with Dallas, as that's also ticketed by AXS?
If anyone is looking for LA, presale code is POPSICLE. General promoter presale code for LA area shows on sale this week
You're the best! Secured second row, right side in the pit. How on earth did you uncover that code? I subscribe to a million ticketing services for these codes, and AXS didn't send me anything (yet). Thanks again! Edit: In my scramble I didn't see the general promoter comment.
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Plenty of codes out there, but none of them will work for the AXS site for Los Angeles. Anyone have any luck with Dallas, as that's also ticketed by AXS?
If anyone is looking for LA, presale code is POPSICLE. General promoter presale code for LA area shows on sale this week
You're the best! Secured second row, right side in the pit. How on earth did you uncover that code? I subscribe to a million ticketing services for these codes, and AXS didn't send me anything (yet). Thanks again!
I got an email from Goldenvoice last night, they'e one of the promoters under the AEG umbrella since the whole LA Live complex are AEG venues. Glad it worked!
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Snagged a ticket for the Philly show, aisle seat 6 rows back from the pit on JP's side. Might do more than one show, not sure yet.
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Plenty of codes out there, but none of them will work for the AXS site for Los Angeles. Anyone have any luck with Dallas, as that's also ticketed by AXS?
If anyone is looking for LA, presale code is POPSICLE. General promoter presale code for LA area shows on sale this week
Thank you!
Got mine for the LA show. Pit left (JM's side), sixth row on the center aisle.
Secured second row, right side in the pit.
JP's side?
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Can confirm WSOU worked for the brooklyn show presale. Tickets were reasonably priced in presale!
Bummer none of the codes seem to work for Charlotte, if I can't find one I'll see what the tickets are like for general sale tomorrow.
Here's a running list I found last night:
METROPOLIS
SUNNY
PANIC
MARQUEE
IMAGES
SHARK
DT2021
DTTCT
GUITAR
WSOU
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The Facebook password METROPOLIS seemed to work for me.
EDIT: But I will note that I was not able to buy tickets on my desktop for some reason. Had to execute the transaction on my iPad.
Thanks, this code worked for me for the Seattle show. I was able to buy tickets from my desktop as well.
Tried the passcode for the nashville presale and it did not work. Hopefully some tickets will be available tomorrow for the regular sale. How do you get a passcode? I know sometimes you have to have a special credit card to be eligible for the code.
Some above said HOME worked for Nashville
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So, who's going where to see what show?
Oakland
Denver
Houston
Red Bank NJ for me. Typically I try to go to 2 shows because they usually play NJ and NYC, but Brooklyn is a bit of a stretch for me to get to during the week. If anything, the Saturday night in Philly would be my 2nd show, but I'm not rushing to grab a ticket for that date. We will see. I'm happy to be in the front row for my local show though.
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So, who's going where to see what show?
CT for me.
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So, who's going where to see what show?
CT for me.
Going to the Ottawa show once tickets start selling. Where have y'all been entering the presale codes?
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Chicago for me 👍
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Plenty of codes out there, but none of them will work for the AXS site for Los Angeles. Anyone have any luck with Dallas, as that's also ticketed by AXS?
If anyone is looking for LA, presale code is POPSICLE. General promoter presale code for LA area shows on sale this week
Thank you!
Got mine for the LA show. Pit left (JM's side), sixth row on the center aisle.
Secured second row, right side in the pit.
JP's side?
Yes, JP side, near the aisle.
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So, who's going where to see what show?
Oakland
Denver
Houston
Red Bank NJ for me. Typically I try to go to 2 shows because they usually play NJ and NYC, but Brooklyn is a bit of a stretch for me to get to during the week. If anything, the Saturday night in Philly would be my 2nd show, but I'm not rushing to grab a ticket for that date. We will see. I'm happy to be in the front row for my local show though.
I got front row middle section JP side for Oakland!! Never have I had this great of a seat!
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So, who's going where to see what show?
CT for me.
Going to the Ottawa show once tickets start selling. Where have y'all been entering the presale codes?
SUNNY works for both Canada shows. When you click on the show on Ticketmaster, it immediately ask you for Presale code.
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Going to Philly...finally able to score seats in the front of a section so I don't wind up with the only asshole who wants to stand the entire time in front of me. :metal
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So, who's going where to see what show?
CT for me.
Going to the Ottawa show once tickets start selling. Where have y'all been entering the presale codes?
SUNNY works for both Canada shows. When you click on the show on Ticketmaster, it immediately ask you for Presale code.
Cool! I'm gonna use that as soon as the show appears there.
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So, who's going where to see what show?
Kings Theatre Brooklyn... 4th row dead center...dang I hope Covid doesn’t f this trip up. Airfare and tickets
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So, who's going where to see what show?
Kings Theatre Brooklyn... 4th row dead center...dang I hope Covid doesn’t f this trip up. Airfare and tickets
right? In the same boat...
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I'm going to both Ohio shows and Rochester. I'm fortunate enough to have front row for all 3! :metal I got the platinum seats that Ticketbastard offered for 2 of the shows. I was going to go for a platinum seat for the 3rd show this morning but it was almost 2X what i paid for each of other 2 shows. Luckily a regular priced seat popped up in the front so I jumped on it.
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Red Bank, NJ, Loge Row A. (The old man section.) Looking forward to a night with my butt in a seat all night. It's the only way I'll go to a show now.
DanLore
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So, who's going where to see what show?
Kings Theatre Brooklyn... 4th row dead center...dang I hope Covid doesn’t f this trip up. Airfare and tickets
right? In the same boat...
I'm so hesitant to book travel for a concert because of this. I bought a ticket for Metallica/Cage the Elephant/Greta Van Fleet in Atlanta in November and I haven't booked the flight because I'm waiting to see. I have a flight credit to Atlanta from 2020 that I need to use before March. It seems I can pay a small bit to be able to cancel things which I may do though. But I've read so many people being mad on social media when Gojira/Deftones tour got cancelled and they can't refund their travel plans.
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Hey guys I have a decent pair of tickets for sale for the Toronto show . My wife and I both got a pair so we only need 1 pair . I posted in the ticket buy/sell thread . Under face value. Thanks for looking
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So, who's going where to see what show?
Kings Theatre Brooklyn... 4th row dead center...dang I hope Covid doesn’t f this trip up. Airfare and tickets
right? In the same boat...
I'm so hesitant to book travel for a concert because of this. I bought a ticket for Metallica/Cage the Elephant/Greta Van Fleet in Atlanta in November and I haven't booked the flight because I'm waiting to see. I have a flight credit to Atlanta from 2020 that I need to use before March. It seems I can pay a small bit to be able to cancel things which I may do though. But I've read so many people being mad on social media when Gojira/Deftones tour got cancelled and they can't refund their travel plans.
I'm kinda of in the same boat. I can drive to each venue and can stay with either family or friends but I do have concerns that the event could be postponed.
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I have listed tickets for Houston and Denver at my cost. I had a terrible time with the presale and these are extra.
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Got tickets for LA. AXS fuckin sucks. They don’t even give me the option for a physical ticket to add to my collection. Had to download some stupid app.
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Got tickets for LA. AXS fuckin sucks. They don’t even give me the option for a physical ticket to add to my collection. Had to download some stupid app.
I've never been a fan of AXS which my local ballroom exclusively uses, but the options for a physical ticket are limited on many concerts these days regardless. My DT ticket had the option, figured it's not worth it. I will print it and cut the "ticket" part out to put in my collection instead as I've been doing the last few years. In the case I can't make it, the digital ticket is much easier to transfer than physical.
One other option I've found, if you just want to buy ticket to show that isn't sold out and don't care about picking specifically for your tickets, go to the box office and buy them there for a physical ticket. Also, the will call option, you can pick the tickets up. If that's an option. These days people, myself included, want to pick the specific seat easily online and the price we pay is a digital ticket now adays.
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Got tickets for LA. AXS fuckin sucks. They don’t even give me the option for a physical ticket to add to my collection. Had to download some stupid app.
Got my ticket for Dallas. We had to pay like an extra $15 to get a physical ticket. Pass.
Anyway. Row 2!
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Got tickets for LA. AXS fuckin sucks. They don’t even give me the option for a physical ticket to add to my collection. Had to download some stupid app.
I shall be there at the LA show. Lower Mezz Left Center A401. Honestly, I rather be paying AXS fees than Live Nation fees. The tickets regardless in either one will always be mobile. I don't think I would have paid like $52.00 for a Mezz seat if this was at a Live Nation venue (Hollywood Palladium or Wiltern as an example). At least, I will be in the front row of my section so no one should ideally block my view. That enough is the worth the price to me.
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Got tickets for LA. AXS fuckin sucks. They don’t even give me the option for a physical ticket to add to my collection. Had to download some stupid app.
I'm making a homemade ticket for posterity - printing and cutting details from my confirmation notice.
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I'm still patiently awaiting for the Ottawa tickets to appear literally anywhere. :lol
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I'm still patiently awaiting for the Ottawa tickets to appear literally anywhere. :lol
Me too. I have second row tickets for Laval as well. I’ll be seeing both. I remember that I had a ticket for Kitchener in 2019 and when they announced the Ottawa show last minute I just had to grab a spot. I can’t not see DT in my home city when they come.
Last minute front row!! What a night it was.
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Just saw that platinum ticket holder will get a socially distanced picture with the band. Was wondering how they would do meet and greets. Heat is picking up with this delta variant so theres a part of me that's wondering if this tour will even happen. Regardless, even if vaccinated, they're taking a bit of a risk.
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Might be the first concert where the band asks the crowd not to cheer. Just sit there quietly.
Which shouldn't be too big of an issue for us here in Los Angeles. :facepalm:
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I'm still patiently awaiting for the Ottawa tickets to appear literally anywhere. :lol
Me too. I have second row tickets for Laval as well. I’ll be seeing both. I remember that I had a ticket for Kitchener in 2019 and when they announced the Ottawa show last minute I just had to grab a spot. I can’t not see DT in my home city when they come.
Last minute front row!! What a night it was.
I probably would have seen them twice if I had the money :lol I got the Kitchener tickets right away before Ottawa was revealed. I am so glad they're playing here now though. They usually stick to Montreal and Toronto.
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Completely off topic but Jordan just posted him playing a section from The Count of Tuscany which, unless he just relearnt it for the fun of it, has me hopeful that they might be playing it on the upcoming tour, which would be amazing.
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Completely off topic but Jordan just posted him playing a section from The Count of Tuscany which, unless he just relearnt it for the fun of it, has me hopeful that they might be playing it on the upcoming tour, which would be amazing.
That would be awesome, I'm all for it. :tup
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Completely off topic but Jordan just posted him playing a section from The Count of Tuscany which, unless he just relearnt it for the fun of it, has me hopeful that they might be playing it on the upcoming tour, which would be amazing.
I just can’t see them doing Tuscany when they have a new epic to play (which is almost a guarantee to make the setlist). I’d rather them bring back Wither if they want to represent BC&SL.
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Completely off topic but Jordan just posted him playing a section from The Count of Tuscany which, unless he just relearnt it for the fun of it, has me hopeful that they might be playing it on the upcoming tour, which would be amazing.
I just can’t see them doing Tuscany when they have a new epic to play (which is almost a guarantee to make the setlist). I’d rather them bring back Wither if they want to represent BC&SL.
As much as I'd want to see TCOT (even though they've played two epics in a set before), considering the shorter show length, I think Wither is more likely to represent BC&SL. Plus I also love that song so I'd be fine with that. That being said, I could still see them playing both.
I'm curious if they're still sticking with the two-set format with a break in the middle, just shorter than the 3-hour shows, or if they're doing like on the ADTOE tour with no breaks.
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Completely off topic but Jordan just posted him playing a section from The Count of Tuscany which, unless he just relearnt it for the fun of it, has me hopeful that they might be playing it on the upcoming tour, which would be amazing.
I just can’t see them doing Tuscany when they have a new epic to play (which is almost a guarantee to make the setlist). I’d rather them bring back Wither if they want to represent BC&SL.
Well, he also posted a video of him playing it not long before the Distant Memories shows leading a lot of people to believe they were going to play it for one of those shows and it didn't happen.
I wouldn't mind if they played it but I'm really hoping they resurrect The Glass Prison and Scarred (or something from Awake) instead.
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The Glass Prison is a song I've wanted them to play for a long time since it's been ages, but over time I've started to like the song less and less, so I'd rather something like Blind Faith or Misunderstood to come back. Basically anything from SDOIT Disc 1 that isn't The Great Debate. :lol
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The Glass Prison is a song I've wanted them to play for a long time since it's been ages, but over time I've started to like the song less and less, so I'd rather something like Blind Faith or Misunderstood to come back. Basically anything from SDOIT Disc 1 that isn't The Great Debate. :lol
I'd rather see Misunderstood if anything from 6DOIT. Blind Faith I would also love to see...
Actually I would like to see any 6DOIT song besides TGP, WIMH and TTTSTA.
Only as I have seen TGP and nothing will top that transition into This Dying Soul they did on Gigantour.
Also, if they do play The Glass Prison. There will be people complaining it's too slow, as they will most likely set the tempo of the click to the album tempo, in order to make that arpeggio section easier for JP. And to help Myung with the parts he finds difficult as was recently revealed.
Interesting to know that not only does JP find that song difficult to play live, but JM also does.
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Since they’re not doing an Evening With show, I doubt they’ll play any 10+ minute king songs that aren’t new. Like, on the ADTOE tour. All of the older songs were “shorter” ones. But I’ve been wrong before. Just ask my wife.
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I just hope the older songs they include this time aren't ones they've already played with this lineup. There's a bunch of stuff from WDADU, AWK, FII, SDOIT, TOT, OVM, SC and BC&SL they haven't played with MM yet that would be great additions to the setlist instead of doing PMU, Metropolis, TSCO or AIA again.
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Since they’re not doing an Evening With show, I doubt they’ll play any 10+ minute king songs that aren’t new. Like, on the ADTOE tour. All of the older songs were “shorter” ones. But I’ve been wrong before. Just ask my wife.
This is what I am thinking as well. I wonder how much the setlist will be heavy on the new album songs?
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Just saw that platinum ticket holder will get a socially distanced picture with the band. Was wondering how they would do meet and greets. Heat is picking up with this delta variant so theres a part of me that's wondering if this tour will even happen. Regardless, even if vaccinated, they're taking a bit of a risk.
Are you talking about the platinum seats that Ticketmaster is selling or the VIP upgrades? I saw where you get the socially distanced photo with the VIP upgrade, but was wondering if you'd also get that with the platinum tickets from TM(which I have for 2 shows)?
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Just saw that platinum ticket holder will get a socially distanced picture with the band. Was wondering how they would do meet and greets. Heat is picking up with this delta variant so theres a part of me that's wondering if this tour will even happen. Regardless, even if vaccinated, they're taking a bit of a risk.
Are you talking about the platinum seats that Ticketmaster is selling or the VIP upgrades? I saw where you get the socially distanced photo with the VIP upgrade, but was wondering if you'd also get that with the platinum tickets from TM(which I have for 2 shows)?
Sorry. I'm not sure. It is probably the VIP upgrade.
I really haven't paid much attention since initially those platinum seats were only reserved for VIP packages a decade ago so I think I incorrectly intermixed the two.
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Just saw that platinum ticket holder will get a socially distanced picture with the band. Was wondering how they would do meet and greets. Heat is picking up with this delta variant so theres a part of me that's wondering if this tour will even happen. Regardless, even if vaccinated, they're taking a bit of a risk.
Are you talking about the platinum seats that Ticketmaster is selling or the VIP upgrades? I saw where you get the socially distanced photo with the VIP upgrade, but was wondering if you'd also get that with the platinum tickets from TM(which I have for 2 shows)?
Platinum tickets from TM don't come with anything special related to the band, it's just an offer for "prime spot" tickets that are dynamically priced based on the demand for the show. One of the things I can't stand about the current state of the ticketing process :facepalm:
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I just hope the older songs they include this time aren't ones they've already played with this lineup. There's a bunch of stuff from WDADU, AWK, FII, SDOIT, TOT, OVM, SC and BC&SL they haven't played with MM yet that would be great additions to the setlist instead of doing PMU, Metropolis, TSCO or AIA again.
I'm kinda thinking that, after the I&W&B tour and the SFAM20 shows, anything off those two albums is relatively unlikely.
And count me with those who'd love to see Wither.
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So, who's going where to see what show?
Oakland
Denver
Houston
Red Bank NJ for me. Typically I try to go to 2 shows because they usually play NJ and NYC, but Brooklyn is a bit of a stretch for me to get to during the week. If anything, the Saturday night in Philly would be my 2nd show, but I'm not rushing to grab a ticket for that date. We will see. I'm happy to be in the front row for my local show though.
Red Bank as well. 7th row center on aisle (JP side as always). Took 7th row instead of 6th and saved $30+ per ticket :metal
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I got seats in row 2, right in front of JM. I'm so excited. Last tour was my first DT show and I was in the back of the orchestra which felt super close, so this will be unreal. I play bass and JM is a huge inspiration for me. Very excited.
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Looks like The Count of Tuscany may be played. On DT’s stories on Facebook, JR was playing it.
All of the comments on Facebook for the Minneapolis show are hilarious to me. “Why did it have to be Minneapolis, why not St Paul.” “Heard Minneapolis is lovely right now!”
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The Glass Prison is a song I've wanted them to play for a long time since it's been ages, but over time I've started to like the song less and less, so I'd rather something like Blind Faith or Misunderstood to come back. Basically anything from SDOIT Disc 1 that isn't The Great Debate. :lol
I'd rather see Misunderstood if anything from 6DOIT. Blind Faith I would also love to see...
Actually I would like to see any 6DOIT song besides TGP, WIMH and TTTSTA.
Only as I have seen TGP and nothing will top that transition into This Dying Soul they did on Gigantour.
Also, if they do play The Glass Prison. There will be people complaining it's too slow, as they will most likely set the tempo of the click to the album tempo, in order to make that arpeggio section easier for JP. And to help Myung with the parts he finds difficult as was recently revealed.
Interesting to know that not only does JP find that song difficult to play live, but JM also does.
I would personally be ok with never seeing any songs from the Six Degrees suite or The Spirit Carries On. The Spirit Carries On is my bathroom break song.
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Row F on the left side (closest to the center aisle, and we have no center section, so we will be as dead center as you can get) for the STL show! :metal :metal
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$225 for a socially distanced photo with the band? No thanks. Sure, there's the tote bag with stuff that I'm generally not interested in, but the meet and greet is the main attraction. Everything else is just filler to justify the steep price. Eliminating the M&G also removes the incentive for me to dig deep into my pockets.
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$225 for a socially distanced photo with the band? No thanks. Sure, there's the tote bag with stuff that I'm generally not interested in, but the meet and greet is the main attraction. Everything else is just filler to justify the steep price. Eliminating the M&G also removes the incentive for me to dig deep into my pockets.
I don't blame you. I don't blame the band either.
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I'll be at the first show in Mesa, AZ. :metal :metal
Anyone else going to this show?
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So, who is going to look at the setlist? Last tour I didn't and it was...like wow!
My son and I were in LA, and it was Super loud. We both were newish fans, and when Nightmare started we were just smiling and looking at each other in total excitement. No way to say anything at that moment. I will always remember it!.
So, nope not looking!
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So, who is going to look at the setlist? Last tour I didn't and it was...like wow!
My son and I were in LA, and it was Super loud. We both were newish fans, and when Nightmare started we were just smiling and looking at each other in total excitement. No way to say anything at that moment. I will always remember it!.
So, nope not looking!
Well, Unless anyone closer to the band on here drops any hints, I won't know until the show I'm going to. :corn
Which is better for me. As I also, tried to do this as much as I could, but I looked at it when I was drinking a few at a bar the night before. :facepalm: I remembered the songs but forgot the running order, so was a bit surprised hearing A Nightmare To Remember right after Untethered Angel. I looked at my friend and said, "Oh snap, they're going straight into this long song. Hope everyone's ready for it." I was more excited to hear how they would do MP's rough vocal section and was glad JLB did it. The best was when they played ITPOE Pt.1 though, the guitar solo in the intro gets me every time. Actually, now that I ponder about it, that might be my all-time favorite JP solo.
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So, who is going to look at the setlist? Last tour I didn't and it was...like wow!
My son and I were in LA, and it was Super loud. We both were newish fans, and when Nightmare started we were just smiling and looking at each other in total excitement. No way to say anything at that moment. I will always remember it!.
So, nope not looking!
Well, Unless anyone closer to the band on here drops any hints, I won't know until the show I'm going to. :corn
Which is better for me. As I also, tried to do this as much as I could, but I looked at it when I was drinking a few at a bar the night before. :facepalm: I remembered the songs but forgot the running order, so was a bit surprised hearing A Nightmare To Remember right after Untethered Angel. I looked at my friend and said, "Oh snap, they're going straight into this long song. Hope everyone's ready for it." I was more excited to hear how they would do MP's rough vocal section and was glad JLB did it. The best was when they played ITPOE Pt.1 though, the guitar solo in the intro gets me every time. Actually, now that I ponder about it, that might be my all-time favorite JP solo.
ITPOE was the 2nd great surprise. ITPOE is probably my top 3. Home top 5. But Home was a bucket list song. When I first discovered DT in 2016, Home was the song that really cemented my love affair with DT. I couldn't wait to hear it. And like I said it was so loud, but the crowd got in this vibe during the intro, all swaying as one - a concert experience I will never forget!
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I usually can't resist the urge, especially as my show is closer towards the end of the tour.
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So, who is going to look at the setlist? Last tour I didn't and it was...like wow!
My son and I were in LA, and it was Super loud. We both were newish fans, and when Nightmare started we were just smiling and looking at each other in total excitement. No way to say anything at that moment. I will always remember it!.
So, nope not looking!
I think I'd prefer not to do so, but I probably will. I too was at one of the Wiltern shows, and I think knowing that the first set would be just meh allowed me to go with it a bit better -- no expectations that wouldn't get fulfilled.
On the other hand, I'll be at the third show of the tour on a Saturday, so if I can get through Friday without seeing what they played in Mesa, I might be able to do it since I don't always get on DTF on the weekends.
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So, who is going to look at the setlist? Last tour I didn't and it was...like wow!
My son and I were in LA, and it was Super loud. We both were newish fans, and when Nightmare started we were just smiling and looking at each other in total excitement. No way to say anything at that moment. I will always remember it!.
So, nope not looking!
I think I'd prefer not to do so, but I probably will. I too was at one of the Wiltern shows, and I think knowing that the first set would be just meh allowed me to go with it a bit better -- no expectations that wouldn't get fulfilled.
On the other hand, I'll be at the third show of the tour on a Saturday, so if I can get through Friday without seeing what they played in Mesa, I might be able to do it since I don't always get on DTF on the weekends.
Ya, it is easier going to an earlier show, I will be in Oakland. I just turn off all DT social media. I don't know if I could do it if I had to wait a month or two. It will require many listens to the new record since I will want to know the songs when they play them...There are sure worse ways to spend my time!! :metal
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Gotta check the setlists early on to see if there are any rotating songs (doubtful :facepalm:) which may lead to seeing another show other than red bank.
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Gotta check the setlists early on to see if there are any rotating songs (doubtful :facepalm:) which may lead to seeing another show other than red bank.
This will play a role for me as well, it will open up going to Philly as well as Red Bank for me.
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Ticket sales are underwhelming at best right now. I suppose many folks are hedging their bets as to whether or not they want to go to a public show this Fall. I checked many different venues, from San Diego to St. Pete's, and NC to Texas. Lotta seats still available.
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Ticket sales are underwhelming at best right now. I suppose many folks are hedging their bets as to whether or not they want to go to a public show this Fall. I checked many different venues, from San Diego to St. Pete's, and NC to Texas. Lotta seats still available.
It looks like they sold all of the seated portion of the Dallas show. Only GA remains. However, there's not seating chart for the godawful venue they're playing, so I'm not sure how many seats they made available. If they sold all they had available last time they came through, though, I'd call this a smashing success. Far more likely they cut way back on the number of rows and increased the GA in the rear.
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Ticket sales are underwhelming at best right now. I suppose many folks are hedging their bets as to whether or not they want to go to a public show this Fall. I checked many different venues, from San Diego to St. Pete's, and NC to Texas. Lotta seats still available.
I'm not surprised. With the delta variant running wild, a lot of people are going to sit back and see how things play out. DT also has a much older crowd these days so it makes sense for the more covid susceptible people to be weary.
Also, maybe the new album plays a role. People may also want to wait until it drops before buying a ticket.
The Red Bank venue was actually sold out last time they came through
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Ticket sales are underwhelming at best right now. I suppose many folks are hedging their bets as to whether or not they want to go to a public show this Fall. I checked many different venues, from San Diego to St. Pete's, and NC to Texas. Lotta seats still available.
It looks like they sold all of the seated portion of the Dallas show. Only GA remains. However, there's not seating chart for the godawful venue they're playing, so I'm not sure how many seats they made available. If they sold all they had available last time they came through, though, I'd call this a smashing success. Far more likely they cut way back on the number of rows and increased the GA in the rear.
I got section A Row 2 the day they went on sale. And, I’m not even sure where my seat is.
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Ticket sales are underwhelming at best right now. I suppose many folks are hedging their bets as to whether or not they want to go to a public show this Fall. I checked many different venues, from San Diego to St. Pete's, and NC to Texas. Lotta seats still available.
It looks like they sold all of the seated portion of the Dallas show. Only GA remains. However, there's not seating chart for the godawful venue they're playing, so I'm not sure how many seats they made available. If they sold all they had available last time they came through, though, I'd call this a smashing success. Far more likely they cut way back on the number of rows and increased the GA in the rear.
I got section A Row 2 the day they went on sale. And, I’m not even sure where my seat is.
What's worse, once you get there the staff won't know where your seat is, either. Last time it took them 5 minutes to figure out where our seats were and how to get us to them. Now that I think about it, not giving us a seating chart might actually be an improvement. At least if I don't know where I'm sitting I won't be confused after they rearrange everything from what I was expecting, like the last tour there. :lol
Have I mentioned that The Bomb Factory sucks ass?
For what it's worth, A should be the entire front section, which is 40 or so seats wide. You (and we) should have second row, and seat numbers dictate where they are in relation to center. At least that's how it worked last time.
This is what it was last time around, but one of the aisles was missing:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/proxy/rlnlFq8lern152eENQMSyep9tMEphbvpNgATxuQcWuXcSkgSC27G-q92K3NeFbitQ6FJ_H9hPczu1QEhCqV7e-K-JxolQ2elBfSb0wVcP7F0Oi0dAIOs1XfhIge7tFRfFE8=w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu)
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Where I get confused is those front two rows are for special guests. At least I think it was last time. Last time I got the platinum package, as soon as they went on sale, and those two rows weren’t available for purchase. So I don’t know if section A is front of JM or JP. I’d rather be in front of JP, so it would be nice to know.
And yes, that place sucks. At the last DT show (the only time I’ve been there) there was still a line of people trying to get help finding their seats after the show had started. You might have been in that.
And it’s the only venue for a rock show that I’ve seen selling homemade tamales. I’m not even sure what I think about that 🤣
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Wang Center in Boston capacity is 3500. Tons of seats still available..
(https://i.imgur.com/m3WpdVe.jpg)
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Where I get confused is those front two rows are for special guests. At least I think it was last time. Last time I got the platinum package, as soon as they went on sale, and those two rows weren’t available for purchase. So I don’t know if section A is front of JM or JP. I’d rather be in front of JP, so it would be nice to know.
And yes, that place sucks. At the last DT show (the only time I’ve been there) there was still a line of people trying to get help finding their seats after the show had started. You might have been in that.
And it’s the only venue for a rock show that I’ve seen selling homemade tamales. I’m not even sure what I think about that 🤣
There was a line of people out the door when the show started, and I was in it. If it takes you an hour and a half to admit your audience, don't open the doors an hour before the show starts. >:(
And I don't think there's anything special about the front rows. Progmetty had a seat in the front row last time around.
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I don't think looking at current seating charts is a good way to gauge how well tickets are selling. The actually numbers might be even more bleak. I took the below screenshot seconds after tickets became available for the CT show and before they were available to the general public at all. No way all those seats sold in half a minute on day one of presale.
(https://preview.redd.it/bpemn278azd71.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=83dd4e1557445bb7666384839121e51b6a6bfa09)
Here's the seating chart as of a minute ago.
(https://i.imgur.com/LFRq4Td.png)
What really pisses me off is that there are seats that are now available that weren't when they initially went on sale.
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It's not like anyone decided not to go anymore and those seats are now available to buy. :)
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I know it would not happen, but now with their 5th post MP cd being released in October, I think it would be not only fun, but also quite refreshing if this upcoming tour concentrated ONLY on the MM era material. How about this set list:
intro: False Awakening Suite
1. The Alien
2. Answering The Call
3. Our New World
4. Lost Not Forgotten
5. Out of Reach
6. Transcending Time
7. S2N
8. On The Backs of Angels
9. The Enemy Inside
10. Sleeping Giant
11. Surrender To Reason
12. Untethered Angel
13. Bridges in The Sky
encore:
14. A View From The Top of The World
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Some of the venues have cordoned off sections, like in LA it is clear that the far wings of the venue are not being made available for sale, and other venues have certain back balcony sections not available. During the live show, they actually use a black curtain to hide these seats.
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It's still going to take some ample time before attendances return to normal. This covid variant is reeking havoc. :censored >:(
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I know it would not happen, but now with their 5th post MP cd being released in October, I think it would be not only fun, but also quite refreshing if this upcoming tour concentrated ONLY on the MM era material.
I'd love that.
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Please elaborate.
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Please elaborate.
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I think it's time to bust out Hell's Kitchen.
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Please elaborate.
Clearly, he's quoting JM. :biggrin:
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I think it would be not only fun, but also quite refreshing if this upcoming tour concentrated ONLY on the MM era material.
Please, no.
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Please elaborate.
Clearly, he's quoting JM. :biggrin:
:lol :lol
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I think it's time to bust out Hell's Kitchen.
Last time played https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c_aBELUj4w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c_aBELUj4w) only 3.5ish years ago. There's many more songs IMO that need to be busted out... the glass prison is my personal choice.
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Ticket sales are underwhelming at best right now. I suppose many folks are hedging their bets as to whether or not they want to go to a public show this Fall. I checked many different venues, from San Diego to St. Pete's, and NC to Texas. Lotta seats still available.
That would be me. Starting to wonder if it was a good idea to get Neal Morse tickets for October so I'm holding off until I get a better idea of what November is going to look like.
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I went to see how many tickets were available still for the Dallas show, it looks like it’s sold out!
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Ticket sales are underwhelming at best right now. I suppose many folks are hedging their bets as to whether or not they want to go to a public show this Fall. I checked many different venues, from San Diego to St. Pete's, and NC to Texas. Lotta seats still available.
I'm not surprised. With the delta variant running wild, a lot of people are going to sit back and see how things play out. DT also has a much older crowd these days so it makes sense for the more covid susceptible people to be weary.
Also, maybe the new album plays a role. People may also want to wait until it drops before buying a ticket.
The Red Bank venue was actually sold out last time they came through
Waiting to see how things play out. If I feel comfortable, I'm pretty sure I can find tickets closer to the show.
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The Ottawa and Quebec City tickets are still not available. Anyone know anything about what's going on? I can't find anything on the venue websites about the events.
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I think it'll be a miracle if these dates go as planned.
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I think it'll be a miracle if these dates go as planned.
My thoughts/fears exactly.
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I think it'll be a miracle if these dates go as planned.
"go as planned" for sure. But I think they will try to make this tour happen as best as possible. There keeps on being new tours announced so it does seem the touring industry is pushing on. But also, so many postponements and cancellations too. Also some bands are backing out of tours (Nine Inch Nails for example) so it's possible they decide to not do it. However, I think most bands not only want to get back out on tour, may financially need to be out there. I don't know about DT, but they are a band that always tours. I get the feeling they aren't going to back out unless they get sick or things continue to get worse in the next month or two.
If your show is at the start of the tour, I'd feel fairly confident it will go on as planned. The later ones are where it's possible covid creeps into the band and causes postponements/cancellations.
EDIT: Just to add, the Count Basie Theatre in NJ just announced it will require vaccinations to see concerts this fall, which will include the DT show.
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I think it'll be a miracle if these dates go as planned.
EDIT: Just to add, the Count Basie Theatre in NJ just announced it will require vaccinations to see concerts this fall, which will include the DT show.
If this rule is still in place by then, there will be refunds galore. Many fans purchased tickets before this ish was announced.
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I think it'll be a miracle if these dates go as planned.
EDIT: Just to add, the Count Basie Theatre in NJ just announced it will require vaccinations to see concerts this fall, which will include the DT show.
If this rule is still in place by then, there will be refunds galore. Many fans purchased tickets before this ish was announced.
I haven't actually seen an email update from livenation regarding this. I follow the Basie on twitter and saw it. I don't recall any mention of refunds, but they may just be working out details now.
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Live Nation and AEG, the two biggest concert promoters in the US, recently announced vaccine requirements for bands, staff and patrons at all of their venues. This gives me a bit more hope for the tours starting in late September and beyond going mostly as scheduled, between requirements and now the FDA giving their full approval of the vaccine's safety and efficacy. I'm sure refunds will be available for most shows in the next few months as this transition takes effect. As far as DT goes this makes me a lot more comfortable about their LA show, I recently saw King Crimson outdoors and felt fine about it but am still feeling a little nervous about indoor crowds, especially in bigger venues or really packed crowds. I just want the band to be able to tour safely and this decision only helps them do that :tup
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I think it'll be a miracle if these dates go as planned.
EDIT: Just to add, the Count Basie Theatre in NJ just announced it will require vaccinations to see concerts this fall, which will include the DT show.
If this rule is still in place by then, there will be refunds galore. Many fans purchased tickets before this ish was announced.
I'm not saying there won't be any refunds, but I think "refunds galore" might be a bit strong.
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I think it'll be a miracle if these dates go as planned.
EDIT: Just to add, the Count Basie Theatre in NJ just announced it will require vaccinations to see concerts this fall, which will include the DT show.
If this rule is still in place by then, there will be refunds galore. Many fans purchased tickets before this ish was announced.
I'm not saying there won't be any refunds, but I think "refunds galore" might be a bit strong.
70+% of the united states is vaxxed so "refunds galore" is indeed too strong.
Also, I would guess 10% of the unvaxxed are just indifferent to it and not opposed. I know a few of them.
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Ottawa Canada show....announced pre-sale. 24 hrs later was sent notification "cancelled".
That happened yesterday.
I didn't even know they had a new album coming. I would have gone of course. In fact I had begun the process of buying tickets.
Unfortunate.
Our city\province will have a vaccine passport system in place by the time that show would have gone on (Nov 15th) so for what it's worth it would have been only vaxed and yes still masked people attending.
sigh......
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Anyone wanting to go to the San Diego show? I have one ticket Orchestra, second row, center (listed in DT Bay for more details). Anyone interested feel free to hit me up with an offer.
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Ottawa Canada show....announced pre-sale. 24 hrs later was sent notification "cancelled".
That happened yesterday.
I didn't even know they had a new album coming. I would have gone of course. In fact I had begun the process of buying tickets.
Unfortunate.
Our city\province will have a vaccine passport system in place by the time that show would have gone on (Nov 15th) so for what it's worth it would have been only vaxed and yes still masked people attending.
sigh......
Has there been any info as to why this was (I think) the only show on the whole tour that was cancelled? Seems weird there's still a date in TO. Also, anyone know if it's possible to see the DT show in Montreal. I see there's mention of a Quebec issued vaccine passport with QR code so not sure if ONT version will be accepted at door?
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Anyone want to take a guess at how many songs off the new album they'll play live this leg of the tour?
I am gonna guess 3-5, hopefully 6.
I think the two released songs are a given. Although would be interesting if they didn't play one of these songs. And since JP released his signature 8-string, he might want to showcase it on the road in front of a live audience that isn't full of guitarists, so Awaken The Master might possibly be a given one as well. The title track is obviously, well hopefully, a given of being played.
So that is 4 already. If they added more, and I hope they do, I could see Answering the Call being the next given song. Which leaves Sleeping Giant and Transcending Time. These two I could see being left off the tour entirely, if one does make it, I would like to see TT just for time purposes and it means more older songs.
Edit: Posted in the setlist thread...
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My guess would be 3-5 too but I wouldn't be surprised if they rotated the two singles between set A and B (assuming they have two different setlists)
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The tour has been postponed:
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https://www.facebook.com/dreamtheater/posts/415545929937279
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Well....At least we have more time to digest the album, and I can really play with my setlists :biggrin:
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Kind of expected unfortunately. Hopefully 2022 the tour will indeed take place
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Figured this was coming based on the ticket sales :( I'm selfishly super bummed. This coincided with my birthday weekend and was going to follow and NYC trip to see The Book of Mormon musical.
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Such a difficult decision for the band, and their staff. This tour represented a lot of income to them so I hope they don't need to postpone it further.
As a fan, it sucks but I will have new music to keep me busy, and I just hope they don't come to my city when I'm away on a trip next year :'(
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Can we get the album released earlier so that it makes up for it? :biggrin:
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Sucks, but I understand. Maybe with the reschedule I won't have to drive 2 hours to CT :biggrin:
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I'm a bit surprised. They announced the tour when Delta was bad, now cases are going down and they postpone? Kind of makes no sense to me. February could potentially be a lot worse than this fall. Like, life is completely back to normal around here and many tours are not having issues anymore (a bunch did in August). I mean, look at the Louder than Life festival that happened this weekend.
Since they talk about local mandates, makes me wonder if the band themselves don't comply with the mandates, but that's just speculation on my part. Not sure if moving to February will change anything regarding ticket sales so not really thinking that plays a role.
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My only question is what happens if the rescheduled date is something I can't make? If I don't get a no questions asked 100% refund (including all fees), I'm gonna be PISSED.
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I'm a bit surprised. They announced the tour when Delta was bad, now cases are going down and they postpone? Kind of makes no sense to me. February could potentially be a lot worse than this fall. Like, life is completely back to normal around here and many tours are not having issues anymore (a bunch did in August). I mean, look at the Louder than Life festival that happened this weekend.
Since they talk about local mandates, makes me wonder if the band themselves don't comply with the mandates, but that's just speculation on my part. Not sure if moving to February will change anything regarding ticket sales so not really thinking that plays a role.
Hard to read the covid numbers accurately. In my state it's almost impossible to get a covid test anymore. The numbers look to be getting steady just because they can't test anymore than they are.
I think this may have something to do with the fact that they may not be comfortable with meet and greets which are a big money maker. Stuff isn't selling as well. If any shows get canceled they may not even break even.
I agree that February may be even worse though.
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My only question is what happens if the rescheduled date is something I can't make? If I don't get a no questions asked 100% refund (including all fees), I'm gonna be PISSED.
For pretty much every tour I've seen since this pandemic started, they give you the option for a refund once they announce the new dates, just not when they announce there will be a postponement.
I think this may have something to do with the fact that they may not be comfortable with meet and greets which are a big money maker.
Were they even offering those this time around? I feel like most bands have not been doing those, which makes a lot of sense.
I guess I just personally feel like if you aren't comfortable now, you won't be comfortable in February. I don't want to turn this into the covid thread, but a lot of the experts don't expect this to be "over" early 2022, but later in 2022.
People have been attending indoor shows here for about a month now. All have been vaccine or negative test to get in and while I'm sure someone has gotten sick, I haven't heard or read about any of these shows being spreader events.
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I think this may have something to do with the fact that they may not be comfortable with meet and greets which are a big money maker.
Were they even offering those this time around? I feel like most bands have not been doing those, which makes a lot of sense.
I guess I just personally feel like if you aren't comfortable now, you won't be comfortable in February. I don't want to turn this into the covid thread, but a lot of the experts don't expect this to be "over" early 2022, but later in 2022.
People have been attending indoor shows here for about a month now. All have been vaccine or negative test to get in and while I'm sure someone has gotten sick, I haven't heard or read about any of these shows being spreader events.
Most places aren't doing much contact tracing anymore though. I agree with you that it won't be over in February but I read one analysis that there may actually be a drop in cases and that the disease is peaking or plateauing or something. I personally dont understand it because it deals with expontials and other crap and I'm not a math guy.
All I know is when everything opened up when only 40-50% of the country was vaccinated I was like, "this ain't gonna last."
Edit: oh and I think they did have meet and greets scheduled
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I actually think it's a big concern for JLB. And if he doesn't feel comfortable, I could see why they would postpone.
It could also be a mandate thing as they don't want to cancel any show and deal with having to arrive at the venue or the next city and not play.
Overall, in a business sort of sense, it's more wiser to wait if they do not want to deal with all the hassle, especially with how things can change in an instant now.
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I got a c-note that says it doesn't happen in February either. I'll even give 2:1 odds. Any takers?
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I got a c-note that says it doesn't happen in February either. I'll even give 2:1 odds. Any takers?
I'm legit surprised and I don't see a person in that room :lol. But I will agree with you on it happening in Feb for the reason I already shared. If you are too worried to do it in November, I don't see how you will be feeling much better come February. I'd love to hear someone from the touring agency give a reason why they think February will be safer than November. I'm not sure the vaccine mandates will be over by then either. I expect to be showing my proof until next summer for large events at the earliest.
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I think this may have something to do with the fact that they may not be comfortable with meet and greets which are a big money maker.
Were they even offering those this time around? I feel like most bands have not been doing those, which makes a lot of sense.
I guess I just personally feel like if you aren't comfortable now, you won't be comfortable in February. I don't want to turn this into the covid thread, but a lot of the experts don't expect this to be "over" early 2022, but later in 2022.
People have been attending indoor shows here for about a month now. All have been vaccine or negative test to get in and while I'm sure someone has gotten sick, I haven't heard or read about any of these shows being spreader events.
Just and FYI, I went to a Meet and Greet for Megadeth last month. There was no pic with the band or the table where you get your stuff signed and chat. They came out and sat in front of their photo banner with microphones and took questions (pre-asked from us earlier). It lasted about 45 minutes. It was actually pretty good!
Where I live, there was a mask mandate regardless of vaccination status. There was a large GA area (where I was) and really no one was wearing their mask. I did, as I thought, "this seems like the place to spread it - what with the sweaty, spitty moshers running into me".
I have someone who works for me. Got covid, but at a wedding he went to and not the music festival he went to.
I understand and I definately wouldn't want the band to get sick. I was supposed to see Foreigner (no judgments -just want to go to a concert!) last night and they cancelled just a few days ago because of covid.
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My only question is what happens if the rescheduled date is something I can't make? If I don't get a no questions asked 100% refund (including all fees), I'm gonna be PISSED.
This is my question as well. I'm sure TICKETMASTER will be very easy to deal with
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Yeah, I've seen a few bands do different versions of meet and greets. Rarely the traditional sense. 311 did virtual ones for example. Skillet did the Q&A. I saw John 5 doing legit ones (from what it seemed like from pictures on twitter). And most bands just flat out aren't doing them.
As for bands touring with Covid, Jonathan Davis of Korn got covid pretty bad but last night performed their make up concert locally. A lot of bands are finding their way through this pandemic to still get shows on. Less Than Jake recently had a covid positive in their camp and had to not play a few dates of their tour supporting New Found Glory but now are back on the tour performing again. I am going to that show locally on Wednesday (indoors, proof of vaccine or negative test to get in, it's sold out ~ 2k people).
The opening band I saw last weekend, Hirie, the singer was out mingling in the pit after their set. No masks or anything. Everyone is just different in their risks. DT seem to be on the safer side from this call.
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To avoid confusion, I'm going to go ahead and lock this for now since we have a dedicated thread with the tour postponement in the title and first post.