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Random stuff!
Looking at the last 30 championships in each of the major North American sports leagues:
NHL: From the 1989-90 season through 2019-20, 16 of the current 31 teams won the Stanley Cup and 25 teams made the SCF. The team with the most Cups is Pittsburgh (5), and nine teams won one Cup each. No team won more than two in a row (Penguins did it twice and the Red Wings once). During this time period, the NHL grew by nearly 50%, from 21 teams to 31 teams.
NBA: From the 1990-91 season through 2019-20, 11 of the current 31 teams won the NBA Championship and 20 teams made it to the Finals. The Chicago and Los Angeles (Lakers, duh) have the most titles (6 each), and five teams won one title each. The Bulls and Lakers won three titles in a row (with the Bulls doing it twice). During this time period, the NBA grew from 27 teams to 30.
NFL: From the 1991 season through 2020 (SB 26-55), 16 of the current 32 teams won the Super Bowl and 24 teams made the Super Bowl. The team with the most Super Bowls is New England (6), and eight teams won one Super Bowl each. No team has ever won more than two Super Bowls in a row, but three teams won two in a row during this period (Cowboys, Broncos and Patriots). During this time period, the NFL grew from 28 teams to 32.
MLB: From 1990 season through 2020, 18 of the current 30 teams won the World Series and 26 teams made the World Series (only the Mariners, Pirates, Brewers and Orioles did not make the World Series during this stretch). The team with the most titles is New York (Yankees, duh), and twelve teams won one World Series each. The only teams to win multiple titles in a row were the Blue Jays (1992-93) and Yankees (1998-2000). It has been 20 years since anyone repeated as World Series Champion. During this time period, the MLB grew from 26 teams to 30.
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I’ll chime in later with the “unbeatable” records. Not sure I know a lot for all sports, but I do for the NHL.
Lord help us if/when Josh sees this thread. :lol
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Brewers pitcher Corbin Burnes set a new record today for most strikeouts to begin a season without walking a batter at 58. Unfortunately he walked his first batter later in the game.
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I’ll chime in later with the “unbeatable” records. Not sure I know a lot for all sports, but I do for the NHL.
I'll start with this one for MLB that almost no one talks about: 36 triples in a season, set by Owen Wilson (WOW!) in 1912.
Before you poo-poo this as an unbreakable record, consider that, in 2019 (the last full season), Eduardo Escobar led the MLB with 10 triples. That's less than 1/3 of the MLB record. This is not true for any other stat. Moreover, since 1932, there have been only FIVE seasons in which the MLB leader had 20 or more. Despite being a speedster and playing most of his career in Oakland, Rickey Henderson never hit more than seven triples in a season (probably because he stopped at second and stole third a lot). Vince Coleman? He has 12 once and 10 thrice. Willie Wilson led the AL five times and the MLB four times, but his best was 21. Tim Raines? Never better than 13.
Ain't no one gettin' more than 36 triples.
Brewers pitcher Corbin Burnes set a new record today for most strikeouts to begin a season without walking a batter at 58. Unfortunately he walked his first batter later in the game.
You forgot to mention the three hit batters...but also the 1.57 ERA and 0.641 WHIP (and he was really good in LA Law and Major League).
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Here's some of the NHL's unbreakable records (some discussed recently in the NHL thread).
I aint' gonna bother with Gretz's... we all know what they are, but you can read 'em here. Don't any even TRY to say Ovi can catch him for all-time goals. Ain't never gonna happen) https://www.nhl.com/news/the-great-ones-23-unbreakable-records/c-585698
But some non-Gretz unbreakable records
Teemu Selanne: rookie goals/points - 76/132 respectively
Orr: Single season points by a defenceman (139) and single seaon +/- (any position; 124)
Glenn Hall: Consecutive starts by a goalie (502)
'77-'78 Boston Bruins: 11 players with 20 or more goals.
And the one record that literally will never be broken:
Most goals scored in a single overtime: Ken Doraty (1936; Leafs vs Sens)
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As to triples, I instantly checked Willie Mays stats. Five times in double digits. His highest total was 20 in 1957, one of three times he would lead the NL.
Oh, btw, he also hit 26 doubles, 35 HRs, and had 38 steals in '57. He had become only the second player in the 30-30 club the prior year.
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And the one record that literally will never be broken:
Most goals scored in a single overtime: Ken Doraty (1936; Leafs vs Sens)
I'm sorry. What??? How was that even possible.
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And the one record that literally will never be broken:
Most goals scored in a single overtime: Ken Doraty (1936; Leafs vs Sens)
I'm sorry. What??? How was that even possible.
Apparently, regular season OT wasn't sudden-death when first introduced in the late 20s. Regular season OT was scrapped in the 40s, returning in '83 as sudden-death. I didn't even know this until today - I just wanted to get some of the years and figures right for what I posted above, and stumbled across this gem. :lol
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Here's some of the NHL's unbreakable records (some discussed recently in the NHL thread).
I aint' gonna bother with Gretz's... we all know what they are, but you can read 'em here. Don't any even TRY to say Ovi can catch him for all-time goals. Ain't never gonna happen) https://www.nhl.com/news/the-great-ones-23-unbreakable-records/c-585698
But some non-Gretz unbreakable records
Teemu Selanne: rookie goals/points - 76/132 respectively
Orr: Single season points by a defenceman (139) and single seaon +/- (any position; 124)
Glenn Hall: Consecutive starts by a goalie (502)
'77-'78 Boston Bruins: 11 players with 20 or more goals.
And the one record that literally will never be broken:
Most goals scored in a single overtime: Ken Doraty (1936; Leafs vs Sens)
If you look at Ovi's last five seasons, he scored 205 goals in 358 games played, which works out to .5726 goals per game (which is only a little bit down from his career average of .6099). To catch Gretzky would require 164 more goals. Even if you assume Ovi can maintain the same pace from his last five seasons, he'd need 287 more games, which is about three and a half seasons. If his pace drops to .5 goals per game, then he'd need exactly four full seasons, and if the pace drops to .4 goals per game, he'd need five full seasons.
Probably not doable, but I'm not going to write it off just yet. However, it does make you wonder "what if?" he'd gotten to play full seasons in 2012-13 and the past two seasons, to say nothing of the lost 2004-05 season. He's been remarkably injury free his whole career, which is one reason he's gotten as far as he has. Had he not lost at least 125 games to labor issues and COVID, he'd be around 800 and an odds-on favorite to break the record.
I remember the first time I looked up Orr's career stats and saw his +/- numbers. Holy shit! How did the Bruins not win more Cups?
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Here's some completely random and coincidental stuff:
Going back to Super Bowl 39, the team wearing white jerseys has won 14 out of 17 games (the Chiefs in SB54, the Eagles in SB52, and the Packers in SB45 are the only exceptions.
Overall, the team in the white jerseys has won 35 out of 55 Super Bowls.
The five teams that have played in more than five Super Bowls (Patriots, Steelers, Cowboys, Broncos and 49ers) are, overall, 16-7 when wearing white and 9-10 in some other color.
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The Giants are the only team with white face masks to win the SB. They did it twice, against the Broncos and Bills (who also had white face masks at the time). The Steelers were the first team to win with non gray facemasks.
After the Cowboys lost to the Colts in SB V, they swore off blue jerseys for any game, unless forced to wear them.
The Dolphins could have completed their perfect 17-0 season with a 17-0 SB win, but Yepremian had other ideas (gawd, I'm old enough to remember him kicking for my old Lions, and setting the then record of six FGs in one game in his rookie year).
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If you look at Ovi's last five seasons, he scored 205 goals in 358 games played, which works out to .5726 goals per game (which is only a little bit down from his career average of .6099). To catch Gretzky would require 164 more goals. Even if you assume Ovi can maintain the same pace from his last five seasons, he'd need 287 more games, which is about three and a half seasons. If his pace drops to .5 goals per game, then he'd need exactly four full seasons, and if the pace drops to .4 goals per game, he'd need five full seasons.
Probably not doable, but I'm not going to write it off just yet. However, it does make you wonder "what if?" he'd gotten to play full seasons in 2012-13 and the past two seasons, to say nothing of the lost 2004-05 season. He's been remarkably injury free his whole career, which is one reason he's gotten as far as he has. Had he not lost at least 125 games to labor issues and COVID, he'd be around 800 and an odds-on favorite to break the record.
I'll grant the 'what if' around the '04-'05 lost season. But Gretz also had a 1/2 season lockout in '94-'95. Still.... I'd literally bet my house that Ovi does NOT break it. I just don't see him getting that many goals this late in his career. And even if he does, I still don't consider him the greatest ... Gretz had 46 goals in the WHA as a rookie. At 35 years old, Gretz had 837 goals; looking at it another way, the final 5 years of HIS career, he only scored 91 goals. Father time catches up with everyone.
I'd also like a 'what-if' for Jagr. Give him 3 more seasons in the NHL from '08-'11, and he's the clear #2 in a lot more offensive categories (#1 in games played). He was still almost 1 ppg in those years.
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The Dolphins could have completed their perfect 17-0 season with a 17-0 SB win, but Yepremian had other ideas (gawd, I'm old enough to remember him kicking for my old Lions, and setting the then record of six FGs in one game in his rookie year).
Yeah, it's crazy to think that they could have gone undefeated AND had a shutout in the Super Bowl if not for that special teams gaffe.
The Ravens D also pitched a shutout in Super Bowl 33 against the Giants, but won 34-7 thanks to the Giants returning a kickoff for a TD.
IIRC, those are the only two defenses to pitch shutouts in the Super Bowl (but the final score was not a shutout due to the other team getting a defensive and/or ST score), unless I am forgetting another?
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The Dolphins could have completed their perfect 17-0 season with a 17-0 SB win, but Yepremian had other ideas (gawd, I'm old enough to remember him kicking for my old Lions, and setting the then record of six FGs in one game in his rookie year).
Yeah, it's crazy to think that they could have gone undefeated AND had a shutout in the Super Bowl if not for that special teams gaffe.
The Ravens D also pitched a shutout in Super Bowl 33 against the Giants, but won 34-7 thanks to the Giants returning a kickoff for a TD.
IIRC, those are the only two defenses to pitch shutouts in the Super Bowl (but the final score was not a shutout due to the other team getting a defensive and/or ST score), unless I am forgetting another?
Cowboys 24 Fins 3
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I'll grant the 'what if' around the '04-'05 lost season. But Gretz also had a 1/2 season lockout in '94-'95. Still.... I'd literally bet my house that Ovi does NOT break it. I just don't see him getting that many goals this late in his career. And even if he does, I still don't consider him the greatest ... Gretz had 46 goals in the WHA as a rookie. At 35 years old, Gretz had 837 goals; looking at it another way, the final 5 years of HIS career, he only scored 91 goals. Father time catches up with everyone.
I'd also like a 'what-if' for Jagr. Give him 3 more seasons in the NHL from '08-'11, and he's the clear #2 in a lot more offensive categories (#1 in games played). He was still almost 1 ppg in those years.
For sure re Jagr (and he also lost games in the 94-95 season). And yeah...Ovi keeping up his recent pace isn't realistic, but it's still possible even if he drops off. Of course, if he gets any sort of significant injury, that'll put the kibosh on it real quick.
The Dolphins could have completed their perfect 17-0 season with a 17-0 SB win, but Yepremian had other ideas (gawd, I'm old enough to remember him kicking for my old Lions, and setting the then record of six FGs in one game in his rookie year).
Yeah, it's crazy to think that they could have gone undefeated AND had a shutout in the Super Bowl if not for that special teams gaffe.
The Ravens D also pitched a shutout in Super Bowl 33 against the Giants, but won 34-7 thanks to the Giants returning a kickoff for a TD.
IIRC, those are the only two defenses to pitch shutouts in the Super Bowl (but the final score was not a shutout due to the other team getting a defensive and/or ST score), unless I am forgetting another?
Cowboys 24 Fins 3
Ummm...that "3" was neither a defensive nor special teams score. That field goal means the Cowboys' defense did not "pitch a shutout."
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This might be more appropriate for the NBA thread, but I don't ever post there.
There are eight teams remaining the 2021 NBA playoffs: Philadelphia, Atlanta, Milwaukee, Brooklyn, Utah, LA Clippers, Denver, and Phoenix.
Five of those teams (Suns, Jazz, Nets, Nuggets and Clippers) have never won an NBA title, and the Clippers and Nuggets have never made the NBA finals (the Nets -- then known as the New York Nets -- did win two ABA titles on the strength of Julius Erving).
The other three teams (Sixers, Hawks and Bucks) have won 5 NBA titles between them (3 by the Sixers, one by the Hawks, and one by the Bucks). The most recent of those titles was in 1983 by the Sixers (again, led by Dr. J). Prior to that was the Bucks in 1971, the Sixers in 1967, and the ST. LOUIS Hawks in 1958.
In NFL terms, this would be like having the final 8 teams be the Browns, Jaguars, Jets, Dolphins, Falcons, Vikings, Bears and Cardinals.
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The NFC won 14 consecutive coin tosses at the Super Bowl from 1998 - 2011. Surely, a feat that will never be equaled.
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The NFC won 14 consecutive coin tosses at the Super Bowl from 1998 - 2011. Surely, a feat that will never be equaled.
That's wild!
Interestingly, that 14-year coin toss streak (SB 32-45) coincides with the end of the NFC's streak of 13 consecutive SB wins (and 15 out of 16). During the NFC's win streak from SB 19-31, the NFC was 9-4 in coin tosses, which means the NFC won 23 out of 27 coin tosses from SB 19-45! However, during the 14-year coin toss win streak, the NFC's record in the game was only 5-9.
The same AFC team -- the Patriots -- won the coin toss on either side of the NFC's 14-year streak (in losing efforts both times - 31 and 46).
Through the first 30 SBs, the team that won the coin toss won the game 16 of 30 times (on game better than 50/50). However, over the last 25 games, the team winning the coin toss is an abysmal 7-18 (28%), making the overall record 23 out of 55 times (41.8%).*
* - This does not include the overtime coin toss in SB51, which the Patriots won.
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The NHL putting a team in Vegas was a stroke of brilliance. Frankly, I’m shocked that they beat the NFL to the punch.
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The NFC won 14 consecutive coin tosses at the Super Bowl from 1998 - 2011. Surely, a feat that will never be equaled.
That's wild!
Interestingly, that 14-year coin toss streak (SB 32-45) coincides with the end of the NFC's streak of 13 consecutive SB wins (and 15 out of 16). During the NFC's win streak from SB 19-31, the NFC was 9-4 in coin tosses, which means the NFC won 23 out of 27 coin tosses from SB 19-45! However, during the 14-year coin toss win streak, the NFC's record in the game was only 5-9.
The same AFC team -- the Patriots -- won the coin toss on either side of the NFC's 14-year streak (in losing efforts both times - 31 and 46).
Through the first 30 SBs, the team that won the coin toss won the game 16 of 30 times (on game better than 50/50). However, over the last 25 games, the team winning the coin toss is an abysmal 7-18 (28%), making the overall record 23 out of 55 times (41.8%).*
* - This does not include the overtime coin toss in SB51, which the Patriots won.
Cue accusations that Belichick fixed the flip. ;) :)
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Isn't it obvious?
If you're not cheating, you're not trying!
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French Open themed post:
Rafa Nadal is 105-3 at Roland Garros.
Djokovic will be playing against Stefanos Tsitsipas for the championship, who has been alive for only three more years than Novak has Grand Slam titles.
The career stats of Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic are ridiculous. Has there every been an extended run when three individuals dominated their sport to such a degree as these three?
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French Open themed post:
Rafa Nadal is 105-3 at Roland Garros.
Djokovic will be playing against Stefanos Tsitsipas for the championship, who has been alive for only three more years than Novak has Grand Slam titles.
The career stats of Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic are ridiculous. Has there every been an extended run when three individuals dominated their sport to such a degree as these three?
You kinda have to limit this inquiry to individual sports, don'tcha?
I don't know anything about modern tennis (I've heard of Federer, but I don't know the other four guys you mentioned), but what about Connors, Borg and McEnroe from the mid-70s to mid-80s? Or Evert-Lloyd, Navartalova and Graf around the same time? And I know even less about golf than I do about tennis, but what about Watson, Palmer and Niklaus back in...I don't know...whenever they were dominant? A.J. Foyt and the Unser brothers?
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Sorry to crash the party. :p
I am not a tennis guy, but grow increasingly amazed at how these three guys have dominated the sport for two decades. Since 2003 Wimbledon, Novak, Roger and Rafa have won 58 of the 70 Men's Grand Slams. Of the 12 times they did not win, one of the them lost in the finals 6 times. In that time, only 8 others have won a Slam. Only 2 of those 8 have won more than 1, each having won 3.
Between 1970-1990, 29 people won at least one Men's Grand Slam.
I know Major Championships/Grand Slams are not everything, but it is a common barometer to judge greatness.
Quick comparison in golf: between 1862 and 1986 (Jack's first and 18th Major), 46 people won at least one Major out of 100 tournaments. (very quick math, might be off a bit). Jack, Watson and Player dominated, but several other players were able to sneak in one or two, sometimes three.
And this is a sports thread, so no need to discuss auto racing :biggrin:
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I've gotten into women's soccer in the past year. It's not as serious as men's which makes it more fun for me, less drama, and there's more scoring at times. Orlando has awesome new space jerseys, and LA and San Diego are getting new women's teams next year.
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French Open themed post:
Rafa Nadal is 105-3 at Roland Garros.
Djokovic will be playing against Stefanos Tsitsipas for the championship, who has been alive for only three more years than Novak has Grand Slam titles.
The career stats of Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic are ridiculous. Has there every been an extended run when three individuals dominated their sport to such a degree as these three?
The Nadal-Djokovic semi-final was amazing, though not the result I was hoping for.
It is indeed amazing that those three players have utterly dominated the sport for such a long period of time. Without a doubt the three greatest ever players.
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The GOAT conversation between Federer, Nadal, and Novak when all is said and done will be an intriguing one.
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So this happened in stage 1 of the Tour de France….
https://youtu.be/fi7rJfSrW58
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Apparently Allezopi-omi! means I'm a fucking douche.
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So this happened in stage 1 of the Tour de France….
https://youtu.be/fi7rJfSrW58
I mean...what the actual fuck? Let's pack 150 guys on bikes into a tiny little space and let "fans" stand on the course with signs? Who runs this event? The makers of Jackass?
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You think a well-known event like the Tour De France that's been around forever would be better prepared to prevent crap like this from happening.
On another note, I just don't understand why there would be incidents at all in marathons where someone random decides to be the largest douche ever and tries to stop a runner from finishing their run. I know there were some instances in Summer Olympics where that happened.
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You think a well-known event like the Tour De France that's been around forever would be better prepared to prevent crap like this from happening.
On another note, I just don't understand why there would be incidents at all in marathons where someone random decides to be the largest douche ever and tries to stop a runner from finishing their run. I know there were some instances in Summer Olympics where that happened.
Not quite what you're saying, but I believe it was sometime in the early '70s (possibly the Boston marathon?) where one of the runners took a taxi for part of the course.
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Check out what I posted in the chat thread.
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You think a well-known event like the Tour De France that's been around forever would be better prepared to prevent crap like this from happening.
On another note, I just don't understand why there would be incidents at all in marathons where someone random decides to be the largest douche ever and tries to stop a runner from finishing their run. I know there were some instances in Summer Olympics where that happened.
Not quite what you're saying, but I believe it was sometime in the early '70s (possibly the Boston marathon?) where one of the runners took a taxi for part of the course.
Yeah, I'm sure something like that has happened in history. Fresh Prince of Bel Air made a reference about it when their butler, Geoffrey, was a marathon runner prior to his job and yeah, he cheated via getting into a taxi for part of the course.
Fresh Prince: Geoffrey's Big Secret (Shame of A Nation video) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txv0hUPW1_k)
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You think a well-known event like the Tour De France that's been around forever would be better prepared to prevent crap like this from happening.
On another note, I just don't understand why there would be incidents at all in marathons where someone random decides to be the largest douche ever and tries to stop a runner from finishing their run. I know there were some instances in Summer Olympics where that happened.
Not quite what you're saying, but I believe it was sometime in the early '70s (possibly the Boston marathon?) where one of the runners took a taxi for part of the course.
Yeah, I'm sure something like that has happened in history. Fresh Prince of Bel Air made a reference about it when their butler, Geoffrey, was a marathon runner prior to his job and yeah, he cheated via getting into a taxi for part of the course.
Fresh Prince: Geoffrey's Big Secret (Shame of A Nation video) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txv0hUPW1_k)
Here's the one I was thinking about (although no taxi was involved): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosie_Ruiz
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So this happened in stage 1 of the Tour de France….
https://youtu.be/fi7rJfSrW58
I mean...what the actual fuck? Let's pack 150 guys on bikes into a tiny little space and let "fans" stand on the course with signs? Who runs this event? The makers of Jackass?
I instantly think of Rally but I guess in that instance the public isn't really a threat to the cars. :lol
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So this happened in stage 1 of the Tour de France….
https://youtu.be/fi7rJfSrW58
I mean...what the actual fuck? Let's pack 150 guys on bikes into a tiny little space and let "fans" stand on the course with signs? Who runs this event? The makers of Jackass?
I instantly think of Rally but I guess in that instance the public isn't really a threat to the cars. :lol
I would be concerned on a lot of levels if there are spectators that's like inches from the cars for so many reasons.
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I am stuck on wondering why anyone would want to be a spectator at a bike race.
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I was up late the other night and I ended up watching the US National Club Cornhole Championships. I don't know whether to be impressed or what. It's always fascinating to me the "terminology" that rises up around things when they get popular. The announcers had so much jargon that I had to adjust to, it was ridiculous. "Cutters" (when the bag slides on an angle around a "blocker", a bag that is blocking the hole), "air mails" (when the bag goes through the hole clean), "cleaners" (there was another word as well; when a second bag goes though the hole and brings the first bag through with it). Each of the players seems to have their own custom bags; I would assume there are size and weight restrictions on them but I didn't get that from the broadcast.
It was fun though; I thought I was decent at the game, but no dice. There was one couple - this older, tall heavy man that looked like he knew his way around a Dungeons and Dragons game and his wife, this very attractive Vietnamese woman who couldn't have been more than 5 feet tall - who were on fire. I mean, they didn't miss, especially her. There were a couple rounds where she airmailed - see above - all four of her bags. The men's doubles round - all four guys looked like they just came from the frathouse - was an excellent contest. Back and forth, and with some amazing throws.
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I was up late the other night and I ended up watching the US National Club Cornhole Championships.
Come on, man...this is a sports thread! :biggrin:
At some point last year, I happened upon competitive tag on TV. I thought, "how stupid!" and then proceeded to watch for about 45 minutes.
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Watching corn hole on TV is awesome!!
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Was that Ultimate Tag? I loved that show.
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Was that Ultimate Tag? I loved that show.
WCT (World Chase Tag): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea_Mkmj92PY
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Does anyone find themselves not caring about this year's Summer Olympics? I mean I'll watch the opening ceremony whenever I can because it's in Tokyo and I'm sure they got a good presentation lined up that will highlight Japan's interesting culture, but as the events itself? Not so much, at least, compared to the Winter Games. I always like the Winter games (even outside of hockey). Curling's great. Short-track speed skating are always a nice chaotic event to watch. Luge and bobsledding are fun events as well.
I really hope the NHL can send their players to the Winter games in 2022, but Bettman and co. seems really hesitant to do it for a lot of reasons. I think the main reason, this time (last time they didn't send players in 2018 was due to organizations not coming to an agreement on who will cover players' insurance I think), is due to quarantine time when the players come in and come out and the idea to put the league on even a longer pause than two weeks (which is just a no bueno for the league to consider doing it)?
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My wife will be glued to the gymnastics.
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I always love watching the swimming events. Can't say I will watch much else, but if there are swimming events going on, I am staying on that channel.
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Does anyone find themselves not caring about this year's Summer Olympics? I mean I'll watch the opening ceremony whenever I can because it's in Tokyo and I'm sure they got a good presentation lined up that will highlight Japan's interesting culture, but as the events itself? Not so much, at least, compared to the Winter Games. I always like the Winter games (even outside of hockey). Curling's great. Short-track speed skating are always a nice chaotic event to watch. Luge and bobsledding are fun events as well.
My problem with the Olympics -- and this has been true for the better part of the last three decades -- is that they focus on events I couldn't give a rip about. What's the big event in the summer games? Gymnastics. What's the big event in the winter games? Figure skating. Neither fits my definition of a "sport," and I couldn't care less about either. I like the parade of nations at the opening ceremonies (and the corresponding flood of athletes at the closing ceremonies), but I have zero interest in the rest of the thing. The track events that are less than a mile are interesting, but I don't want to watch 93 heats and preliminaries leading up to the finals. I think the field events are cool, but we almost never get to see those. In the winter, I dig bobsled, luge, biathlon, but those are events that get very little exposure. The other thing I can't stand are the "human interest" stories that seem to dominate the prime-time coverage. I almost never care. Just show me the damn event!
I really hope the NHL can send their players to the Winter games in 2022
No!!! The best sporting event of my life was the 1980 men's Olympic ice hockey tournament. Not a single NHL player in sight. Possibly the worst was the 1992 men's Olympic basketball tournament. United States 108 - Angola 32. Wow...what fun....
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Oh yeah I know WCT, I've watched a few clips.
I love the Olympics. Team handball, baseball is back (!), swimming and diving, track, USA should dominate women's soccer, gymnastics, I'll watch as much as possible.
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Back on corn-hole championships ... wow. And here I am wondering what the hell that is, as I always associate "corn-holing" as a euphemism me and my buddies would use as teens/20-somethings. I honestly never heard bean-bag toss called cornhole before.
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I hate the Olympics. There is nothing I find enjoyable about them. Other than the ~10 seconds of the 100m, I cannot stand to watch any of it. The overblown opening ceremony, the endless stories about how each individual athlete overcame a mountain of obstacles, I find it all beyond dull.
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I hate the Olympics. There is nothing I find enjoyable about them. Other than the ~10 seconds of the 100m, I cannot stand to watch any of it. The overblown opening ceremony, the endless stories about how each individual athlete overcame a mountain of obstacles, I find it all beyond dull.
Ever watch American Ninja Warrior? Pretty much every other contestant has overcome SOMETHING, and the run two minute puff pieces before these folks' runs. It's always, "I'm here to prove that [fill in name of group of people] can do [fill in thing that no one thought these people couldn't do]." Or, as my wife says (in a mock half-crying tone of voice), "I'm here to prove that people with feet can walk!"
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At least on a show like that, they need it for padding, otherwise the whole episode would last, what, 7 minutes?
I assume some of these Olympians are silver spoon trust fund brats. I want to see a bio segment on one of them.
"Timmy never felt settled at home, with his family spending summers in the Hamptons and winters in the Cayman Islands. Schoolwork was never a challenge due to the assistance of his private tutors, so to alleviate the boredom his parents had an Olympic size swimming pool put in on their estate. 'He proved adept at the sport' said one of his private instructors. There was a question as to if he would be able to attend the Olympic time trials, but his father was able to reschedule the trials so as to not coincide with his Lacrosse tournament."
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I hate the Olympics. There is nothing I find enjoyable about them. Other than the ~10 seconds of the 100m, I cannot stand to watch any of it. The overblown opening ceremony, the endless stories about how each individual athlete overcame a mountain of obstacles, I find it all beyond dull.
Ever watch American Ninja Warrior? Pretty much every other contestant has overcome SOMETHING, and the run two minute puff pieces before these folks' runs. It's always, "I'm here to prove that [fill in name of group of people] can do [fill in thing that no one thought these people couldn't do]." Or, as my wife says (in a mock half-crying tone of voice), "I'm here to prove that people with feet can walk!"
The original Japanese version that G4 used to show was so much better. Not as much fluff pieces, just have these guys go and probably fail on the first obstacle or have the Warp Wall claim many victims.
Fun fact, in the intro of the G4 coverage of Ninja Warrior, the guy that ripped his shirt off was a well-known pro wrestler in Japan. He sadly wiped in the first obstacle in that appearance.
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I record ANW, and can watch a 2-hour episode in about 30-40 minutes (I'll watch the occasional back-story). If you want to talk about puff/filler pieces, nothing tops Battlebots - 4 matches per hour that have a 3-minute time limit. I think I spend more time fast-forwarding than actually watching!
As for the Olympics, I'm closer to Chris than anything else. And it's not like many in NA will watch much live when the Olympics are in Asia.
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I much prefer the Summer Olympics to the Winter Olympics. I can kind of buy into the Summer Olympic games as a continuation of the original Olympic games, because it features many events that date back to then (many of the track and field events, running in general, wrestling, whatever). The Winter Olympics are Olympic in name only, and definitely feature a lot of sports with which I have no affinity.
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The Olympics were important, then tv advertising ruined it.
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At least on a show like that, they need it for padding, otherwise the whole episode would last, what, 7 minutes?
I assume some of these Olympians are silver spoon trust fund brats. I want to see a bio segment on one of them.
"Timmy never felt settled at home, with his family spending summers in the Hamptons and winters in the Cayman Islands. Schoolwork was never a challenge due to the assistance of his private tutors, so to alleviate the boredom his parents had an Olympic size swimming pool put in on their estate. 'He proved adept at the sport' said one of his private instructors. There was a question as to if he would be able to attend the Olympic time trials, but his father was able to reschedule the trials so as to not coincide with his Lacrosse tournament."
:lol :lol :lol
I hate the Olympics. There is nothing I find enjoyable about them. Other than the ~10 seconds of the 100m, I cannot stand to watch any of it. The overblown opening ceremony, the endless stories about how each individual athlete overcame a mountain of obstacles, I find it all beyond dull.
Ever watch American Ninja Warrior? Pretty much every other contestant has overcome SOMETHING, and the run two minute puff pieces before these folks' runs. It's always, "I'm here to prove that [fill in name of group of people] can do [fill in thing that no one thought these people couldn't do]." Or, as my wife says (in a mock half-crying tone of voice), "I'm here to prove that people with feet can walk!"
The original Japanese version that G4 used to show was so much better. Not as much fluff pieces, just have these guys go and probably fail on the first obstacle or have the Warp Wall claim many victims.
Fun fact, in the intro of the G4 coverage of Ninja Warrior, the guy that ripped his shirt off was a well-known pro wrestler in Japan. He sadly wiped in the first obstacle in that appearance.
It's changed a lot. I think we started watching around season 4 or so, and yeah, making it up the warped wall was a huge accomplishment. But now these folks can seemingly train year-round for this stuff without holding a real job, so the warped wall is a total joke that NO ONE fails on. I randomly caught an old season on NBCSN over the weekend and people were just running in sweats and generally looking like if I tried it.
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Not really applicable this year or last year, but I always found it interesting that, the two days of the calendar year that you could be guaranteed that none of the four major North American pro leagues would be playing would be the day before and the day after the MLB All-Star Game.
Also, I was watching the home run derby last night, and I kept seeing on the crawl that some golfer wasn't going to play at "The Open." Ummm....which one? U.S.? British? Phoenix? Aren't most of the golf tournaments called "The ___ Open"?
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The British Open is traditionally called The Open, or the Open Championship.
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The British Open is traditionally called The Open, or the Open Championship.
Never heard of that (not that I pay any attention to golf). I always remember as a kid who would watch pretty much whatever was on TV on the weekends that it was the U.S. Open, the British Open, the Masters and (I think) the PGA Championship that people cared about. Referring to "The Open" would be ambiguous as to whether the reference was to the U.S. or British Open.
The above is more thought than I've devoted to golf in the past quarter century combined, so I'll be shutting up now.
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Those are the four major championships, so yes those tournaments get the most coverage and viewers, and the ones the players covet the most so will always feature all the big names.
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As a golf fan (though I am inverse, I ENJOY watching it on TV....but don't play), while Cool Chris is not wrong in his assessment, I would add....
Since Tiger Woods burst onto the scene back in the 90's, the tournament that got the most coverage was the one he was playing in next.
There have been a couple of other "characters" that temporarily moved the needle, most prominent of those being John Daly....when he won the PGA as a freewheeling swinger of the driver, a chain smoker, a ubiquitous drinker, and sporting a mullet.
And Phil Mickelson....because of the kind of Cold War rivalry with Tiger (which early in their careers wasn't much of one)...and that he was often more characterized as a relatable "everyman" (except that he's a multi-millionaire) that still had crazy skills.
Today, there is the somewhat contrived rivalry between big hitters Brooks Koepka and Bryson DeChambeau. Koepka is the too cool for school guy with a relatively quiet demeanor (but is blunt when interviewed) and a clutch gene accordingly, and the more flamboyant DeChambeau being a freakish hitter off the tee (400 yard drives not out of his realm)....but is still young and hasn't really carved a substantial niche in winning multiple big tournaments (yet). They can't "carry" golf like Tiger did (does?), but they are legit talents who are fun to watch play (though a lot of people who really follow golf might say Spaniard Jon Rahm is better than both of them)....and who do seem to dislike each other to some extent. The PGA powers that be are on the fence with promoting that divide, as it flies in the face of the comradery ethic of golf....in addition to not wanting to embrace the somewhat disingenuous origins.
But Tiger is (still) king (no pun intended)....even if just as a specter of sorts right now.
Yes, the majors are the most coveted and talked about/covered/watched. However, there is what they call the "5th Major"....the Players Championship. Though I would say most of the prestige associated with that tournament is among the players themselves (so the title fits).
There's also this thing called the World Golf Championships...a cluster of 4 tournaments that get all the best players in the world together for BIG dollars and overall season bragging rights. Most casual fans of golf may not even be aware of this relatively new event(s).
Finally, the Ryder Cup is still kind of a big deal. It's a longstanding rivalry with patriotic overtones between European countries and the US. It's little cousin, The President's Cup, similar....but not with the same esteem (and has a larger mix of different countries MINUS Europe that tends to dilute down the intensity of the rivalry somewhat).
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Well, that was a great summary, but I imagine pg1067 stopped around "inverse." :)
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Well, that was a great summary, but I imagine pg1067 stopped around "inverse." :)
He's probably not the only one. :laugh:
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Well, that was a great summary, but I imagine pg1067 stopped around "inverse." :)
Once he wrote "golf fan," I skimmed to the end just to make sure there wasn't any non-golf stuff. :)
I sort of feel like golf should have been an elective at law school. Almost since I started my current job eight years ago, one of my golf-playing colleagues has been talking about us going and playing sometime. Back in the '90s, I had a buddy who had golf clubs, and he and I would occasionally go to a driving range after work some Fridays. I got to the point where I could hit most of my shots vaguely straight, but I never actually played a round of golf until sometime in 2019 when a few guys at my office (not the one mentioned previously) invited me to play with them at the crappy course out behind our office. I don't mind tooting my own horn and telling you that I was downright awful! I wouldn't mind playing more regularly, but any time golf has ever shown up on my TV, I've been bored to tears.
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With the Bucks having won the NBA championship earlier this week, we have now seen 18 title droughts of at least 40 years broken in the last 20 years:
- 2016 Chicago Cubs (108 years)
- 2005 Chicago White Sox (88 years)
- 2004 Boston Red Sox (86 years)
- 2017 Philadelphia Eagles (57 years)
- 2010 San Francisco/New York Giants (56 years)
- 2017 Houston Cheaters (56 years)
- 2019 St. Louis Blues (52 years)
- 2019 Washington Nationals/Montreal Expos (51 years)
- 2020 Kansas City Chiefs (50 years)
- 2021 Milwaukee Bucks (50 years)
- 2010 Chicago Blackhawks (49 years)
- 2016 Cleveland Cavaliers (46 years)
- 2012 Los Angeles Kings (45 years)
- 2002 New England Patriots (44 years)
- 2009 New Orleans Saints (43 years)
- 2018 Washington Capitals (43 years)
- 2002 Anaheim Angels (42 years)
- 2015 Golden State Warriors (40 years)
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"Houston Cheaters" :lol
So, the Leafs have the longest NHL drought, at 51 years now.... what's the longest in each of the other sports (I'm too lazy to look it up - I'm sure someone can fill in the blanks for the other three leagues).
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^^ 51 years? I thought they are longer than the Rangers were (which was 54 years before they won it in 1994).
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So Opening Ceremony of the Olympics is today (well, the ceremony is probably already over in Japan at this time). It's going to be quite awkward seeing a limited crowd, and people are rightfully upset that the games is still set to go, but I hope the presentation is top notch.
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"Houston Cheaters" :lol
So, the Leafs have the longest NHL drought, at 51 years now.... what's the longest in each of the other sports (I'm too lazy to look it up - I'm sure someone can fill in the blanks for the other three leagues).
MLB: Cleveland Indians (72 years - last World Series win in 1948 -- will be at least 73 years even if they win the Series this year)
NFL: Arizona/St. Louis/Chicago Cardinals (73 years - last NFL title in 1947 -- will be at least 74 years even if they win the next SB)
NHL: Toronto Maple Leafs (54 years - last Stanley Cup win in 1967 -- will be at least 55 years even if they win the next Cup)
NBA: Sacramento/Kansas City Kings/Rochester Royals (70 years - last NBA championship in 1951 -- will be at least 71 years even if they win the next title)
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^^ 51 years? I thought they are longer than the Rangers were (which was 54 years before they won it in 1994).
Sorry, yeah... typo there. I knew they passed the Rangers drought this year.
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NFL: Arizona/St. Louis/Chicago Cardinals (73 years - last NFL title in 1947 -- will be at least 74 years even if they win the next SB)
NBA: Sacramento/Kansas City Kings/Rochester Royals (70 years - last NBA championship in 1951 -- will be at least 71 years even if they win the next title)
Despite these "franchises" technically being the same ones throughout, I think when they have moved many times.....it dilutes the relevance to drought. The time alone is detaching, but combined with 2 or esp. 3 (more?) moves....the connection to the past becomes more and more esoteric. I think it's the geography that is the primary catalyst for the allegiance.
In that context, I have no tangible reference point to the Rochester Royals. I BARELY remember the Kansas City Kings, though as I recall it was the Kansas City-Omaha Kings (which is even stranger).
So thinking in terms of franchises who have NEVER won a championship (as shown above, Cardinals and Kings have both won titles in their history), the Denver Nuggets are now 54 years in existence.....and have never even been in the FINALS (even the Rockies made it to the World Series), of the NBA (Suns have always been in Phoenix, but are 53 years old and have been to now TWO NBA finals), nor of their organization of establishment (the now distant memory called the ABA). Speaking of the latter, I could also entertain the idea of the ABA not being relevant for somewhat similar reasons....but even if you subtract those 9 years, 45 is quite awhile too.
This fact was all the more pronounced by the Avalanche (another moving team) winning the Stanley Cup in their first year in Colorado! Having no ties to the Quebec Nordiques, it seemed like a NEW expansion team to a lot of relatively casual fans of the NHL here (though REALLY OLD SCHOOL NHL fans might remember the woeful Colorado Rockies NHL team, who are now the New Jersey Devils)....and not only did it spoil fans of that sport in Colorado, the Avs brought the FIRST professional championship to a very strong sports fan city (Denver) and state. Even though it will always be a BRONCOS first area, there's something quite profound about the first title....and the team/players who brought it to ALL sports fans in Colorado.
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Despite these "franchises" technically being the same ones throughout, I think when they have moved many times.....it dilutes the relevance to drought. The time alone is detaching, but combined with 2 or esp. 3 (more?) moves....the connection to the past becomes more and more esoteric. I think it's the geography that is the primary catalyst for the allegiance.
Reasonable points.
For reference, the Rochester Royals actually moved to Cincinnati before moving to Sacto:
- 1957 - Rochester Royals
1957 - 1972 - Cincinnati Royals
1972 - 1975 - Kansas City-Omaha Kings
1975 - 1985 - Kansas City Kings
1985 - present - Sacramento Kings
I first starting following basketball in 1979 or 1980. The first Finals I watched was the 1980 finals between the Dr. J 76'ers and the Lakers in Magic Johnson's rookie year. At that time, I knew the Kansas City Kings with Phil Ford as their best player.
Anyway, if you want to look at teams with the longest droughts in their current cities, you'd have the Leafs and Indians as previously mentioned and
NFL: Detroit Lions - currently 63 years (last NFL title in 1957)
NBA: Denver Nuggets - current 54 years (including ABA and NBA years) and Atlanta Hawks (never won title in franchise history, including 53 years in Atlanta) and Phoenix Suns (never won title since coming into existence in 1968)
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Despite these "franchises" technically being the same ones throughout, I think when they have moved many times.....it dilutes the relevance to drought. The time alone is detaching, but combined with 2 or esp. 3 (more?) moves....the connection to the past becomes more and more esoteric. I think it's the geography that is the primary catalyst for the allegiance.
Reasonable points.
For reference, the Rochester Royals actually moved to Cincinnati before moving to Sacto:
- 1957 - Rochester Royals
1957 - 1972 - Cincinnati Royals
1972 - 1975 - Kansas City-Omaha Kings
1975 - 1985 - Kansas City Kings
1985 - present - Sacramento Kings
I first starting following basketball in 1979 or 1980. The first Finals I watched was the 1980 finals between the Dr. J 76'ers and the Lakers in Magic Johnson's rookie year. At that time, I knew the Kansas City Kings with Phil Ford as their best player.
Anyway, if you want to look at teams with the longest droughts in their current cities, you'd have the Leafs and Indians as previously mentioned and
NFL: Detroit Lions - currently 63 years (last NFL title in 1957)
NBA: Denver Nuggets - current 54 years (including ABA and NBA years) and Atlanta Hawks (never won title in franchise history, including 53 years in Atlanta) and Phoenix Suns (never won title since coming into existence in 1968)
Ah yes, you're right. It was the Kansas City Kings (without Omaha) for several years. Phil Ford from Indiana, wasn't he? I seem to recall some tall guy with bad knees....always wore big kneepads. Lacey?
Yes, the woeful Lions. And like the Nuggets they haven't even sniffed a title in those 63 years. Even with the greatest running back ever, Barry Sanders, I don't think they even made it to the NFC championship....the playoffs a couple of times as I recall (Hipple, Kramer?), but usually lost that first game.
Did the Hawks at least make the Eastern Conference Finals (with Wilkins)? And then I think Phoenix made to the NBA Finals it in the 70's with Paul Westphal.....one of the great playoff games of all time.... with Garfield Heard HIGH ARCING shot that sent the game into triple overtime at the buzzer. But eventually lost to the Celtics with Jo Jo White, Dave Cowens, I think it was. I remember how exciting that was as a kid.
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Watching some Olympics Rugby 7s right now. Don't really know how the rules work, but I'm having a good time watching it.
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Despite these "franchises" technically being the same ones throughout, I think when they have moved many times.....it dilutes the relevance to drought. The time alone is detaching, but combined with 2 or esp. 3 (more?) moves....the connection to the past becomes more and more esoteric. I think it's the geography that is the primary catalyst for the allegiance.
Reasonable points.
For reference, the Rochester Royals actually moved to Cincinnati before moving to Sacto:
- 1957 - Rochester Royals
1957 - 1972 - Cincinnati Royals
1972 - 1975 - Kansas City-Omaha Kings
1975 - 1985 - Kansas City Kings
1985 - present - Sacramento Kings
I first starting following basketball in 1979 or 1980. The first Finals I watched was the 1980 finals between the Dr. J 76'ers and the Lakers in Magic Johnson's rookie year. At that time, I knew the Kansas City Kings with Phil Ford as their best player.
Anyway, if you want to look at teams with the longest droughts in their current cities, you'd have the Leafs and Indians as previously mentioned and
NFL: Detroit Lions - currently 63 years (last NFL title in 1957)
NBA: Denver Nuggets - current 54 years (including ABA and NBA years) and Atlanta Hawks (never won title in franchise history, including 53 years in Atlanta) and Phoenix Suns (never won title since coming into existence in 1968)
Ah yes, you're right. It was the Kansas City Kings (without Omaha) for several years. Phil Ford from Indiana, wasn't he? I seem to recall some tall guy with bad knees....always wore big kneepads. Lacey?
Yes, the woeful Lions. And like the Nuggets they haven't even sniffed a title in those 63 years. Even with the greatest running back ever, Barry Sanders, I don't think they even made it to the NFC championship....the playoffs a couple of times as I recall (Hipple, Kramer?), but usually lost that first game.
Did the Hawks at least make the Eastern Conference Finals (with Wilkins)? And then I think Phoenix made to the NBA Finals it in the 70's with Paul Westphal.....one of the great playoff games of all time.... with Garfield Heard HIGH ARCING shot that sent the game into triple overtime at the buzzer. But eventually lost to the Celtics with Jo Jo White, Dave Cowens, I think it was. I remember how exciting that was as a kid.
In the Super Bowl era, the Lions have qualified for the playoffs 12 times. Their playoff record during that time? 1-12. They had a run during the '90s when they qualified for the playoffs in seven of nine years. Their only victory was in 1991 against the Cowboys. They then lost to the Redskins, who went on to defeat the Bills in SB26. In the 21 seasons of the 2000s, they have qualified for the playoffs only thrice (2011, 2014 and 2016.
In the pre-Super Bowl era, the Lions won four NFL Championships in 1935, 52, 53 and 57 and won the Playoff Bowl three consecutive years (1960-62). Never heard of the Playoff Bowl? I hadn't either. Apparently, between 1960-69, the NFL decided to hold a consolation game at the Orange Bowl in Miami between the second place teams in each conference (while the first place teams played for the NFL Championship). The game was officially known as The Bert Bell Benefit Bowl (Bell was NFL commissioner from 1946-59). Vince Lombardi called the game "called it "the 'Shit Bowl,' . . . a losers' bowl for losers," and "a hinky-dink football game, held in a hinky-dink town, played by hinky-dink players. That's all second place is – hinky dink."
Since the NBA moved from a division format to a conference format sometime in the 1970s, the Hawks have made it past the second round (conference semifinals) only twice (2015 and 2021).
The Suns made it to the NBA finals thrice: 1976 (losing to the Celtics in 6 games); 1993 (losing to the Bulls in 6 games); and 2021 (losing to the Bucks in 6 games). The game you mentioned was game 5 of the 1976 NBA Finals.
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How could any team go to the playoffs 12 times and have a record of 1-12? ;)
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How could any team go to the playoffs 12 times and have a record of 1-12? ;)
They got destroyed so bad by the Bears back in '85 it counted as two losses. :)
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How could any team go to the playoffs 12 times and have a record of 1-12? ;)
Ummm...very easily.
In eleven of those seasons, the Lions lost in their first (and only) playoff game. That makes them 0-11.
In the other season, they won the first game, which makes them 1-11. They then lost the next game, so the record is 1-12.
They got destroyed so bad by the Bears back in '85 it counted as two losses. :)
The Lions were 7-9 and finished fourth in the NFC Central that season.
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How could any team go to the playoffs 12 times and have a record of 1-12? ;)
Ummm...very easily.
In eleven of those seasons, the Lions lost in their first (and only) playoff game. That makes them 0-11.
In the other season, they won the first game, which makes them 1-11. They then lost the next game, so the record is 1-12.
Logistically, that's the natural answer. But theoretically, how can a franchise field such inept teams over that long a span? I mean, even a blind squirrel finds a nut once and a while.
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Hinky dink reminds me of this scene from the movie The Fugitive:
Marshal Bobby Biggs:
It's hinky, Sam. I mean, this guy is a college graduate. He became a doctor. I mean, he ain't gonna go through here with all this security. Hinky.
Deputy Marshal Samuel Gerard:
Biggs, what does that mean, hinky?
Marshal Bobby Biggs:
I don't know. Strange. Weird
Deputy Marshal Samuel Gerard:
Well, why don't you say strange or weird? I mean hinky, that has no meaning.
Marshal Bobby Biggs:
Well, we say hinky.
Deputy Marshal Samuel Gerard:
I don't want you guys using words with no meaning. I'm taking the stairs
Marshal Bobby Biggs:
[sotto voice] How about bullshit? How about bullshit, Sam?
But evidently, it's also the name of an old supermarket chain in Nebraska. Where Gretchen went. ;D
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Logistically, that's the natural answer. But theoretically, how can a franchise field such inept teams over that long a span? I mean, even a blind squirrel finds a nut once and a while.
Well...I have to face palm myself, then. :facepalm:
Hinky dink reminds me of this scene from the movie The Fugitive:
I love that scene! I thought that guy's name was Cosmo, not Bobby. Or maybe it was one of the other deputies that said it... Been a while.
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Cosmo is Joey Pants, he's not in that scene
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Logistically, that's the natural answer. But theoretically, how can a franchise field such inept teams over that long a span? I mean, even a blind squirrel finds a nut once and a while.
Well...I have to face palm myself, then. :facepalm:
Hinky dink reminds me of this scene from the movie The Fugitive:
I love that scene! I thought that guy's name was Cosmo, not Bobby. Or maybe it was one of the other deputies that said it... Been a while.
Love that entire movie. The train wreck scene! Ford and esp. Tommy Lee Jones.....brilliant acting.
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I saw a stat the other day that I haven't verified, and I'm not sure how to do it, but it sounded cool, so here it is.
Nolan Ryan struck out 7 players that had sons to grow up and also be struck out by Nolan Ryan.
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I saw a stat the other day that I haven't verified, and I'm not sure how to do it, but it sounded cool, so here it is.
Nolan Ryan struck out 7 players that had sons to grow up and also be struck out by Nolan Ryan.
Almost like a Chuck Norris joke but probably true.
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Cosmo is Joey Pants, he's not in that scene
Joey Pants?? What?
Love that entire movie. The train wreck scene! Ford and esp. Tommy Lee Jones.....brilliant acting.
Definitely an all-time favorite...and one I don't revisit nearly enough.
I saw a stat the other day that I haven't verified, and I'm not sure how to do it, but it sounded cool, so here it is.
Nolan Ryan struck out 7 players that had sons to grow up and also be struck out by Nolan Ryan.
That's freakin' wild...and very much true.
- Sandy Alomar (1974), Roberto Alomar (1988) and Sandy Alomar Jr. (1990)
- Bobby Bonds (1969) and Barry Bonds (1988).
- Tito Francona (1968) and Terry Francona (1983)
- Ken Griffey (1980) and Ken Griffey Jr. (1989)
- Hal McRae (1973) and Brian McRae (1991)
- Dick ("Ducky") Schofield (1968) and Dick Schofield Jr. (1989)
- Maury Wills (1970) and Bump Wills (1977).
I suspect he got many of these guys more than once, but this site -- http://ryan34.itgo.com/ryanfs.html -- specific dates, which can be verified against box scores at baseball-reference.com.
Again, fucking amazing!
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Cosmo is Joey Pants, he's not in that scene
Joey Pants?? What?
Joe Pantoliano (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Pantoliano).
The Fugitive is a great film. When Harrison Ford was on that Inside the Actor's Studio show, the interviewer said "Harrison, you looked so scared in that scene in the dam" and he replied, in full humor "yeah, because I was scared, I was doing a scene with Tommy Lee Jones."
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How could any team go to the playoffs 12 times and have a record of 1-12? ;)
Ummm...very easily.
In eleven of those seasons, the Lions lost in their first (and only) playoff game. That makes them 0-11.
In the other season, they won the first game, which makes them 1-11. They then lost the next game, so the record is 1-12.
Logistically, that's the natural answer. But theoretically, how can a franchise field such inept teams over that long a span? I mean, even a blind squirrel finds a nut once and a while.
I lived in Michigan during most of their playoff ineptitude. Their main problem was QB. They had Rodney Peete, Erik Kramer and Andre Ware constantly rotating at QB, for 3-4 years. None of them could develop any consistency due to injuries, bad coaching, and bad play. They had the best RB in the game at the time, and couldn’t figure out how to build an offense around him. Then they ditched all 3 of those QB’s for Scott Mitchell, better known in Michigan as Scud Mitchell. His first season with the team, he got benched after 9 games for Dave Krieg, who posted a 5-2 record down the stretch to get them into the playoffs. I remember another season they started 2-6, only to finish 10-6 and then getting blown out in their playoff game by the Eagles, whose QB was Rodney Peete! Then, if I’m not mistaken, they finished the decade with Gus Frerotte and Charlie Batch as their QB’s. That’s a list almost as sad as the Browns prior to Baker Mayfield.
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How could any team go to the playoffs 12 times and have a record of 1-12? ;)
Ummm...very easily.
In eleven of those seasons, the Lions lost in their first (and only) playoff game. That makes them 0-11.
In the other season, they won the first game, which makes them 1-11. They then lost the next game, so the record is 1-12.
Logistically, that's the natural answer. But theoretically, how can a franchise field such inept teams over that long a span? I mean, even a blind squirrel finds a nut once and a while.
Have the Maple Leafs really not won a playoff series since 2004, missing the playoffs in 11 of those seasons?
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How could any team go to the playoffs 12 times and have a record of 1-12? ;)
Ummm...very easily.
In eleven of those seasons, the Lions lost in their first (and only) playoff game. That makes them 0-11.
In the other season, they won the first game, which makes them 1-11. They then lost the next game, so the record is 1-12.
Logistically, that's the natural answer. But theoretically, how can a franchise field such inept teams over that long a span? I mean, even a blind squirrel finds a nut once and a while.
I lived in Michigan during most of their playoff ineptitude. Their main problem was QB. They had Rodney Peete, Erik Kramer and Andre Ware constantly rotating at QB, for 3-4 years. None of them could develop any consistency due to injuries, bad coaching, and bad play. They had the best RB in the game at the time, and couldn’t figure out how to build an offense around him. Then they ditched all 3 of those QB’s for Scott Mitchell, better known in Michigan as Scud Mitchell. His first season with the team, he got benched after 9 games for Dave Krieg, who posted a 5-2 record down the stretch to get them into the playoffs. I remember another season they started 2-6, only to finish 10-6 and then getting blown out in their playoff game by the Eagles, whose QB was Rodney Peete! Then, if I’m not mistaken, they finished the decade with Gus Frerotte and Charlie Batch as their QB’s. That’s a list almost as sad as the Browns prior to Baker Mayfield.
Wow. I had forgotten all of those different quarterbacks. You're right.....that's a pathetic list. Scott Mitchell. Wasn't he a lefty? I think he was from University of Utah.
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How could any team go to the playoffs 12 times and have a record of 1-12? ;)
Ummm...very easily.
In eleven of those seasons, the Lions lost in their first (and only) playoff game. That makes them 0-11.
In the other season, they won the first game, which makes them 1-11. They then lost the next game, so the record is 1-12.
Logistically, that's the natural answer. But theoretically, how can a franchise field such inept teams over that long a span? I mean, even a blind squirrel finds a nut once and a while.
Have the Maple Leafs really not won a playoff series since 2004, missing the playoffs in 11 of those seasons?
That's harsh, man! :lol Also, it was "only" 10 of those seasons (10 of the first 11 coming out of the lockout).
I lived in Michigan during most of their playoff ineptitude. Their main problem was QB. They had Rodney Peete, Erik Kramer and Andre Ware constantly rotating at QB, for 3-4 years. None of them could develop any consistency due to injuries, bad coaching, and bad play. They had the best RB in the game at the time, and couldn’t figure out how to build an offense around him. Then they ditched all 3 of those QB’s for Scott Mitchell, better known in Michigan as Scud Mitchell. His first season with the team, he got benched after 9 games for Dave Krieg, who posted a 5-2 record down the stretch to get them into the playoffs. I remember another season they started 2-6, only to finish 10-6 and then getting blown out in their playoff game by the Eagles, whose QB was Rodney Peete! Then, if I’m not mistaken, they finished the decade with Gus Frerotte and Charlie Batch as their QB’s. That’s a list almost as sad as the Browns prior to Baker Mayfield.
Rodney Peete (USC alum) co-hosts a sports talk radio show here in SoCal. He's TERRIBLE at his job (especially when talking about anything other than football), but they promote him as if he were some sort of NFL legend. It's just sad.
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How could any team go to the playoffs 12 times and have a record of 1-12? ;)
Ummm...very easily.
In eleven of those seasons, the Lions lost in their first (and only) playoff game. That makes them 0-11.
In the other season, they won the first game, which makes them 1-11. They then lost the next game, so the record is 1-12.
Logistically, that's the natural answer. But theoretically, how can a franchise field such inept teams over that long a span? I mean, even a blind squirrel finds a nut once and a while.
Have the Maple Leafs really not won a playoff series since 2004, missing the playoffs in 11 of those seasons?
Yes, now kindly go piss off. :lol
Stat flashed up yesterday by TSN was the teams with the most regular season points over the last 5 years, and number of playoff rounds they've won:
1. Tampa - 10
2. Washington - 6
3. Boston - 5
4. Pittsburgh - 5
5. Toronto - 0
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Didn't want to interfere with the bike talk/showcase oriented "Motorcycle Thread"....but wondered if anyone watches/follows the Monster Energy Supercross or Lucas Oil Motocross races/riders?
I used to watch a LONG time ago with Jeremy McGrath (and then sporadically with the Ricky Carmichael to James Stewart eras)....but recently started getting into it more passionately again. There is a LOT of talent in both cc classes. Would enjoy electronic banter on that topic, though my sense is that it might be similar to the UFC/Boxing thread....very spotty.
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Lots of football this weekend, but thought this was worth mentioning.....US Open tennis qualifier Emma Radacanu, from Great Britain and only 18 years old, wins her first tournament....a MAJOR. With the possible exception of Wimbledon....no bigger spotlight on a player than the US Open in the Big Apple.
She was ranked somewhere in the 300's going into the tournament and had to qualify beforehand. As such, she was 100-1 odds to win.....as this was only her 5th tournament ever.
She beat fellow teenager, Canadian Leylah Fernandez, 19 years old, in straight sets. In fact, Radacanu did not drop a set in 7 matches during the 13 day event. Total domination.
And, OBTW.....she takes home a COOL 2.5 million dollars for her victory. Incredible!
Finally....for you younger forum users.....she also has a great personality, composed WAY beyond her years, and.....CUTE as a button.
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Dang. When I was 18 it was a good day for me if I made it to my 8:00am physics class on time.
And tomorrow Novak goes for 21 and the first men's grand slam since Nixon was President.
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Lots of football this weekend, but thought this was worth mentioning.....US Open tennis qualifier Emma Radacanu, from Great Britain and only 18 years old, wins her first tournament....a MAJOR. With the possible exception of Wimbledon....no bigger spotlight on a player than the US Open in the Big Apple.
She was ranked somewhere in the 300's going into the tournament and had to qualify beforehand. As such, she was 100-1 odds to win.....as this was only her 5th tournament ever.
She beat fellow teenager, Canadian Leylah Fernandez, 19 years old, in straight sets. In fact, Radacanu did not drop a set in 7 matches during the 13 day event. Total domination.
And, OBTW.....she takes home a COOL 2.5 million dollars for her victory. Incredible!
Finally....for you younger forum users.....she also has a great personality, composed WAY beyond her years, and.....CUTE as a button.
That was a high quality exciting and competitive match. Being a British born Canadian myself, I didn’t want to see either of them lose.
This has been a great US Open tournament and there is still a huge match to come tomorrow with Djokovic going for a calendar grand slam and a record 21st grand slam title.
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How could any team go to the playoffs 12 times and have a record of 1-12? ;)
Ummm...very easily.
In eleven of those seasons, the Lions lost in their first (and only) playoff game. That makes them 0-11.
In the other season, they won the first game, which makes them 1-11. They then lost the next game, so the record is 1-12.
Logistically, that's the natural answer. But theoretically, how can a franchise field such inept teams over that long a span? I mean, even a blind squirrel finds a nut once and a while.
Have the Maple Leafs really not won a playoff series since 2004, missing the playoffs in 11 of those seasons?
You give it to him in the NHL thread, and now here lol? Can't you give Chad, and his crappy, crappy team a break?
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That was a high quality exciting and competitive match. Being a British born Canadian myself, I didn’t want to see either of them lose.
This has been a great US Open tournament and there is still a huge match to come tomorrow with Djokovic going for a calendar grand slam and a record 21st grand slam title.
So if he beats Medvedev (a tough task considering how well HE is playing).....does he supplant Federer as the GOAT? Or did you already think he was before this tournament?
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Well, that was anticlimactic. I looked at some numbers, and Novak holds the lead in head-to-head matches won against the other two, both in majors and in general. He also reached 20 a few years before Roger, and I can't believe he won't win more.
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The Toronto Blue Jays everyone.........the Toronto Blue Jays!!
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The Toronto Blue Jays everyone.........the Toronto Blue Jays!!
They're still not going to make it unless the Yankees continue to implode. The Jays started streaking too early, I reckon.
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For the Europe based DTFers: are cycling races outside of the Grand Tours regularly televised?
In Canada, I can't even get the TDF anymore without streaming it from a subscription service online ever since SportsNet dropped their rights to the race. Televised World Championships? No chance.
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Well, that was anticlimactic. I looked at some numbers, and Novak holds the lead in head-to-head matches won against the other two, both in majors and in general. He also reached 20 a few years before Roger, and I can't believe he won't win more.
Right. I agree....and at times seemed dominant over Federer and Nadal. And yet, since he's the youngest of the 3......it's almost like you have to do a little more to "pass" them, beyond winning more tournaments/slams (or even head to head). This calendar slam would have been the thing that distinguishes him in my mind. But you are also right in that he has more time and is capable (although Medvedev and Zverev are not going anywhere....and even Tsitsipas and Thiem as wild card agitators in the mix)....and Federer looks like he might be done competing at the highest level anymore.
Nadal still seems to be highly competitive at times. But wonder about him too....he fought some injuries this year too. And was beatable on clay several times as well (lost to Rublev, Zverev, and Djokovic).....a surface he typically overwhelmingly dominates.