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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: KevShmev on June 02, 2020, 07:39:30 PM
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You can vote for as many as 5.
I am going with:
Chewbacca
Osmosis
Kindred Spirits
Another Dimension
Universal Mind
I find that these are the five songs I return to the most two decades later. It feels weird to not include When the Water Breaks, but it is what it is.
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When The Water Breaks
Biaxident
Kindred Spirits
Acid Rain
Freedom Of Speech
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When the Water Breaks, Three Minute Warning, Another Dimension, Biaxident, Universal Mind.
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Liquid Dreams and Biaxident
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Went with:
Osmosis
Freedom of Speech
914
When the Water Breaks
Liquid Dreams
Next two would be Biaxident and Another Dimension probably.
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Love seeing some early votes for Liquid Dreams. That one also just missed the cut for me.
Honestly, I am a big fan of every song on both albums.
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Love seeing some early votes for Liquid Dreams. That one also just missed the cut for me.
Honestly, I am a big fan of every song on both albums.
I didn’t give it much thought. Those were just the first five that jumped out to me. I think the only songs I sort of dislike are Chewbacca, The Stretch, and Chris and Kevin’s Excellent Adventure. Oh, and State Of Grace. I actually really dislike that one.
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I’d also say When The Water Breaks is at least a top 5 MP drum part (especially the first 5-6 minutes), and might get my vote for favorite MP drum part (it would have to fight 6:00 at least).
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I’m looking at the first LTE booklet just now and I realize how John, Mike, and Jordan look like they have aged decades since then (they have), whereas Tony looks the same as he does now, which is the same as he looked back in the 80s and will probably be the same way he looks for another 20 years.
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Clearly John, Jordan, and Mike like working with bassists who do not physically age.
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Honestly, the two I voted for are literally the only LTE songs I'll put on these days. Never did like TMW.
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While I like the improv tracks to varying degrees, it's the full band written songs that I always go back to the most. So for me, I went with:
Paradigm Shift
Freedom of Speech
Universal Mind
Another Dimension
When the Water Breaks
Was hard not including Acid Rain or Biaxident, as they are both great tracks too. And Kindred Spirits is good, but my least favorite of these full band written songs.
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Paradigm Shift
Acid Rain
Another Dimension
When the Water Breaks
Chewbacca
Just missed:
Universal Mind
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Water, Rain, Shift, Mind, Bi
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Paradigm shift
Acid rain
Another dimension
Universal mind
Kindred spirits
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Both album openers
Biaxident
When The Water Breaks
It's been quite a while since I listened to these two albums. I will do that later this week.
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Acid Rain
Paradigm Shift
Universal Mind
Biaxident
Hourglass
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Kindred Spirits
Freedom of Speech
Universal Mind
Acid Rain
When the Water Breaks
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Kindred Spirits ( I always forget this song exists but goddamn is that middle section unreal)
Freedom Of Speech
Biaxident
Another Dimension
When The Water Breaks
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Paradigm Shift
Universal Mind
Acid Rain
Hourglass
I have no idea what the others sound like off the top of my head, but those 4 are cool.
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Paradigm Shift
Universal Mind
Acid Rain
Hourglass
I have no idea what the others sound like off the top of my head, but those 4 are cool.
Hour Glass is a really great song. Would be easy to overlook it probably, but it deserves some love. Much better duet than State of Grace.
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Paradigm Shift
Universal Mind
Acid Rain
When the Water Breaks
Liquid Dreams
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'Hourglass'....more than a few times Queen's 'Love of My Life' can be heard, and 'State of Grace' sounds like Brian May on guitar. Nice influences.
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Freedom of Speech
Liquid Dreams
Acid Rain
State of Grace
When The Water Breaks
Next is Hourglass. It was a treat to see JP and JR play it live.
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My 'big 3' have always been:
Paradigm Shift
Universal Mind
Acid Rain
Had to have a think about the next two spots, but I went with:
When the Water Breaks
Another Dimension
Kindred Spirits just missed out.
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I prefer the more “written” tracks to the jams.
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Acid Rain
Paradigm Shift
:metal
That's all.
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I prefer the more “written” tracks to the jams.
Me too. But, just to be fair, I listened to Chewbacca today, after a looong time, and it is AMAZING!
Very interesting the fact that, for LTE2, JP recorded his parts in the jam songs after MP, JR and TL jammed together. I think that gave to the jam songs some compositional quality.
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Love seeing some early votes for Liquid Dreams. That one also just missed the cut for me.
Honestly, I am a big fan of every song on both albums.
Oh, and State Of Grace. I actually really dislike that one.
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Wow, I think that is a really well written and beautiful song!
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Paradigm Shift
Universal Mind
Three Minute Warning
Acid Rain
When The Water Breaks
Honorable Mentions: Hourglass, Kindred Spirits
-Marc.
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Love seeing some early votes for Liquid Dreams. That one also just missed the cut for me.
Honestly, I am a big fan of every song on both albums.
Oh, and State Of Grace. I actually really dislike that one.
??? ??? ???
Wow, I think that is a really well written and beautiful song!
It’s very twinkly and saccharine, and it drags on and on. Jordan and John have done some great duets together (the Evening With album is very cool), but this one not so much.
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But, just to be fair, I listened to Chewbacca today, after a looong time, and it is AMAZING!
That build-up after the mellow middle section is amazing, and then when JP's riffing kicks in full force near the end, that is ball-rattling. :metal :metal
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But, just to be fair, I listened to Chewbacca today, after a looong time, and it is AMAZING!
That build-up after the mellow middle section is amazing, and then when JP's riffing kicks in full force near the end, that is ball-rattling. :metal :metal
Totally THIS!!! :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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First 4 was easy for me
Paradigm Shift
Universal Mind
Acid Rain
When The Water Breaks (favourite instrumental track of all time)
Number 5 was really difficult and eventually went with Kindred Spirits but could easily have been Biaxident or Another Dimension. All are great. Freedom Of Speech has great moments but just drags too much in the middle for me so that was out.
Will also add that if anyone who likes these albums has not seen the live dvds/cds, you should make every effort to do so, they are incredible. Even the totally improvised When The Keyboard Breaks live album is amazing.
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Freedom of Speech would have been top 5 for me years ago. I still love it like crazy, but I just like a few others more now.
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Kindred Spirits
Freedom of Speech
State of Grace
Universal Mind
Biaxident
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Five options are not enough.
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Five options are not enough.
Agreed. There needs to be at least 17.
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I know, right?
A couple of the shorter ones like The Stretch, 904 and the Excellent Adventure aren't god tier tunes for me, but most of the others are.
Even Three Minute Warning, for what it is, is pretty awesome.
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Getting a sneak peek of Three Minute Warning before the show on the FII tour was an awesome thing. That is still my fave of the LTE jams. Other than that I tend to prefer the group compositions.
Paradigm Shift
Kindred Spirits
Biaxident
Another Dimension
When the Water Breaks
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Is anyone else still annoyed by the decision to split Three Minute Warning into separate tracks? It’s not a huge deal but the individual sections aren’t all that discreet so they don’t work at all as individual tracks. I’ve never once thought, “I just want to hear Three Minute Warning Pt. 3” or whatever. And it does mess up the playback on some formats.
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Is anyone else still annoyed by the decision to split Three Minute Warning into separate tracks? It’s not a huge deal but the individual sections aren’t all that discreet so they don’t work at all as individual tracks. I’ve never once thought, “I just want to hear Three Minute Warning Pt. 3” or whatever. And it does mess up the playback on some formats.
Split tracks like that do annoy me a lot, and since day 1 of owning LTE1, I've always had "Three Minute Warning" as one 28:36 long track.
-Marc.
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I have the whole thing ripped as one song, but given that it's a long improvised jam rather than an epic, I get why it was broken up into five tracks.
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When the water breaks
Acid rain
Biaxident
Paradigm shift
Aaaaand... Went with kindred spirits
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I'm a big fan of all songs, except "Three minutes warning", I think I have only gone through the whole song once or twice.
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I love both LTE, especially the second one..that one is better on all levels than the first one and it made me a JR believer..I was completely mind blown by this guy..great memories, and now that the original nucleus will return for the third one, hopefully will remind me why I loved the music that they wrote together!
My picks:
1.Acid Rain.
2.Freedom of Speech
3.When the Water Breaks
4.Kindred Spirits
5.Biaxident
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I’m sincerely shocked that WTWB is 3rd. Did not expect that. I thought it was universally the favorite.
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The top 4 are the ones I was expecting, as I said in my post, I found them easy to pick. I’m surprised though that WTWB is not no.1. I’m also surprised how far back Universal Mind is albeit within the top 4.
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I thought Another Dimension would be higher. Probably the most interesting/well-composed song overall on LTE2
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I thought Another Dimension would be higher. Probably the most interesting/well-composed song overall on LTE2
I agree. MP has said that it's the most DT-like song that LTE's done and therefore, part of the reason why it was played in full several times during World Tourbulence. I especially like how it breaks out into that accordion solo - it's like a journey going to another world or at least country.
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It was very close to being one of my 5 and the accordion section is one of the reasons, it’s amazing how they fit that into a pretty heavy song. Makes me smile every time.
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Agreed about Another Dimension. Had I thought about my choices longer it probably would have gotten a vote. The guitar solo always reminded me a little bit of the Scarred solo. One of my favorite JP moments. It’s a really great composition all around.
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I was at one of the DT shows in 2002 when Another Dimension was played. It rocked. :metal :metal
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Paradigm Shift
Universal Mind
Acid Rain
Hourglass
I have no idea what the others sound like off the top of my head, but those 4 are cool.
I voted these, but honestly I haven/t listened to LTE in at least 10 years. I own the LTE2 CD, so maybe I'll play that in the car this week
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Agreed about Another Dimension. Had I thought about my choices longer it probably would have gotten a vote. The guitar solo always reminded me a little bit of the Scarred solo. One of my favorite JP moments.
Likewise for me. That is an awesome section.
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Listed in the order they are in the poll.
Kindred Spirits
Universal Mind
Acid Rain
Another Dimension
When the Water Breaks
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Not the biggest fan of another dimension because of that bass intro
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I thought Another Dimension would be higher. Probably the most interesting/well-composed song overall on LTE2
I agree. MP has said that it's the most DT-like song that LTE's done and therefore, part of the reason why it was played in full several times during World Tourbulence. I especially like how it breaks out into that accordion solo - it's like a journey going to another world or at least country.
either Argentina or France or both probably :D
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Not the biggest fan of another dimension because of that bass intro
I love it. (I'm an unapologetically big fan of TLev, so I like most of what I know with him on it)
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Not the biggest fan of another dimension because of that bass intro
I love it. (I'm an unapologetically big fan of TLev, so I like most of what I know with him on it)
You and me both. Levin is on my Mount Rushmore of bass players, and the LTE albums are a big reason why. That intro is bad ass as hell.
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Not the biggest fan of another dimension because of that bass intro
I love it. (I'm an unapologetically big fan of TLev, so I like most of what I know with him on it)
The man just turned 74! I don't know how he does it.
I know Mike doesn't count Liquid Trio Experiment (because Magna Carta) but does anyone else beside me count it.
Chris and Kevin's Bogus Journey, Hawaiian Funk, Jazz Odyssey, Fire Dance....I dig a lot of this one too.
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Kindred Spirits
Freedom of Speech
Acid Rain
Another Dimension
Hourglass
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When the Water Breaks
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Acid Rain
Biaxident
Kindred Spirits
Freedom of Speech
WTWB was got me into the whole prog scene in the first place. I must have heard it a thousand times by now, it's just breathtakingly amazing. :heart
The songs on 2-5, they're all good too. I'm not really ranking them, they're equal.
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Not the biggest fan of another dimension because of that bass intro
I love it. (I'm an unapologetically big fan of TLev, so I like most of what I know with him on it)
The man just turned 74! I don't know how he does it.
I know Mike doesn't count Liquid Trio Experiment (because Magna Carta) but does anyone else beside me count it.
Chris and Kevin's Bogus Journey, Hawaiian Funk, Jazz Odyssey, Fire Dance....I dig a lot of this one too.
To be honest, my interest lessens when Petrucci is not involved so I don’t really listen to the songs with no guitar.
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I know Mike doesn't count Liquid Trio Experiment (because Magna Carta) but does anyone else beside me count it.
Chris and Kevin's Bogus Journey, Hawaiian Funk, Jazz Odyssey, Fire Dance....I dig a lot of this one too.
I honestly don't think MP has a problem with L3E itself, just MC. L3E was all him, Tony and Jordan, so while he may want to avoid MC like the plague, I don't think he views L3E any less than he does the LTE albums, aside from the packaging which he had nothing to do. Even the title was MP's idea from way back when. Personally, I'm not a big fan of it, in part because it's missing JP and the improvs just don't resonate with me very much. Same is true of The Stretch and 914 which were both basically L3E as well, since neither has JP.
The one thing I'll be curious to see is if a third LTE album happens like it seems to be the case, will we see Chris and Kevin Face the Music? :biggrin:
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Great news that LTE3 might be finally happening. I've listened to LTE2 more than some Dream Theater albums.
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Paradigm Shift, Kindred Spirits, Acid Rain, State of Grace, When the Water Breaks
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I know Mike doesn't count Liquid Trio Experiment (because Magna Carta) but does anyone else beside me count it.
Chris and Kevin's Bogus Journey, Hawaiian Funk, Jazz Odyssey, Fire Dance....I dig a lot of this one too.
I honestly don't think MP has a problem with L3E itself, just MC. L3E was all him, Tony and Jordan, so while he may want to avoid MC like the plague, I don't think he views L3E any less than he does the LTE albums, aside from the packaging which he had nothing to do. Even the title was MP's idea from way back when. Personally, I'm not a big fan of it, in part because it's missing JP and the improvs just don't resonate with me very much. Same is true of The Stretch and 914 which were both basically L3E as well, since neither has JP.
The one thing I'll be curious to see is if a third LTE album happens like it seems to be the case, will we see Chris and Kevin Face the Music? :biggrin:
Ha Ha..
You're right the vitriol is really for Magna Carta. When I met Tony Levin and Billy Sheehan, they didn't really have nice things to say about Magna Carta either.
I'm definitely a huge fan of the improv aspect of it which is why I enjoy it so much.
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You're right the vitriol is really for Magna Carta. When I met Tony Levin and Billy Sheehan, they didn't really have nice things to say about Magna Carta either.
Really? What did they say?
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You're right the vitriol is really for Magna Carta. When I met Tony Levin and Billy Sheehan, they didn't really have nice things to say about Magna Carta either.
Really? What did they say?
They didn't really go into detail, but they made it pretty clear that they did not like Magna Carta. They didn't outright refuse to sign the CD (In Tony's Case it was "Prime Cuts" can't remember which Billy Sheehan CD I had.) One of them, may have been Billy, that said he doesn't see any money from them and Tony made a face and said he really didn't like that album.
Of course "Prime Cuts" was a Magna Carta compilation series that gathered tracks from different projects the artist was involved with on the label. I have the impression that these releases were made without the artist's consent or compensation which, as you said, what Mike was alluding to with Liquid Trio.