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Title: The Walking Shadow - SPOILER ALERT!
Post by: liran95 on January 28, 2016, 12:38:10 PM
For those who have heard the album (I got my copy today), there's something that really bothers me:

**** AGAIN, HUGE SPOILER ALERT, DO NOT READ IF YOU'RE WISHING TO AVOID THESE ****



The scene depicts the moment after Arhys' death. Yet in the lyrics book it says the the following part is sang by Arhys:

"Don't hold your breath
The night's still young
Confront your death
Like father, like son"

Sounds like it's sang by Daryus rather than by Arhys.

Could it be a simple printing mistake or have I missed something?
Title: Re: The Walking Shadow - SPOILER ALERT!
Post by: pcs90 on January 28, 2016, 12:40:26 PM
Wow, really? That has to be a printing mistake...that does not make sense at all.
Title: Re: The Walking Shadow - SPOILER ALERT!
Post by: RoadTrain_of Thought on January 28, 2016, 12:40:44 PM
I don't know. I thought it was Daryus too. But the voice IS different between that and the next part.
Title: Re: The Walking Shadow - SPOILER ALERT!
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on January 28, 2016, 12:41:59 PM
Can't you wait until tomorrow?
Title: Re: The Walking Shadow - SPOILER ALERT!
Post by: liran95 on January 28, 2016, 12:43:13 PM
Quote from: RoadTrain_of Thought on January 28, 2016, 12:40:44 PM
I don't know. I thought it was Daryus too. But the voice IS different between that and the next part.

Yeah, but:

1) Arhys is supposed to be dead at this point.
2) Why would he threaten Xander?
3) The following part makes it pretty clear that it's Daryus talking (the part about "The Chosen One" walking towards him).
Title: Re: The Walking Shadow - SPOILER ALERT!
Post by: liran95 on January 28, 2016, 12:44:11 PM
Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on January 28, 2016, 12:41:59 PM
Can't you wait until tomorrow?

I got my copy legally, if that's what your suggesting.
The local store I bought it from just got it one day earlier.
Title: Re: The Walking Shadow - SPOILER ALERT!
Post by: RoadTrain_of Thought on January 28, 2016, 12:48:58 PM
Aaah yes. I didn't notice that they have put Arhys for all lines. Then its a mistake 100%.
Title: Re: The Walking Shadow - SPOILER ALERT!
Post by: Implode on January 28, 2016, 12:50:38 PM
I've noticed a couple other strange things/mistake in the notes too. Did they rush through it?
Title: Re: The Walking Shadow - SPOILER ALERT!
Post by: liran95 on January 28, 2016, 12:51:59 PM
Quote from: Implode on January 28, 2016, 12:50:38 PM
I've noticed a couple other strange things/mistake in the notes too. Did they rush through it?

The only other mistake I've noticed was a minor one, in which it says "Faith" instead of "Faythe" (when referring to the character, of course).
Title: Re: The Walking Shadow - SPOILER ALERT!
Post by: Pragmaticcircus on January 28, 2016, 12:55:54 PM
It's about time for the story discussion thread now?
Title: Re: The Walking Shadow - SPOILER ALERT!
Post by: Implode on January 28, 2016, 12:59:21 PM
Quote from: liran95 on January 28, 2016, 12:51:59 PM
Quote from: Implode on January 28, 2016, 12:50:38 PM
I've noticed a couple other strange things/mistake in the notes too. Did they rush through it?

The only other mistake I've noticed was a minor one, in which it says "Faith" instead of "Faythe" (when referring to the character, of course).

Oh, ignore me. I was thinking of wrong things. Carry on.
Title: Re: The Walking Shadow - SPOILER ALERT!
Post by: liran95 on January 28, 2016, 01:07:44 PM
Quote from: Pragmaticcircus on January 28, 2016, 12:55:54 PM
It's about time for the story discussion thread now?

Be my guest.
Title: Re: The Walking Shadow - SPOILER ALERT!
Post by: rab7 on January 28, 2016, 01:24:09 PM
Quote from: liran95 on January 28, 2016, 12:51:59 PM
Quote from: Implode on January 28, 2016, 12:50:38 PM
I've noticed a couple other strange things/mistake in the notes too. Did they rush through it?

The only other mistake I've noticed was a minor one, in which it says "Faith" instead of "Faythe" (when referring to the character, of course).

Which song?
Title: Re: The Walking Shadow - SPOILER ALERT!
Post by: Bertielee on January 28, 2016, 01:48:54 PM
Quote from: liran95 on January 28, 2016, 12:38:10 PM
For those who have heard the album (I got my copy today), there's something that really bothers me:

**** AGAIN, HUGE SPOILER ALERT, DO NOT READ IF YOU'RE WISHING TO AVOID THESE ****



The scene depicts the moment after Arhys' death. Yet in the lyrics book it says the the following part is sang by Arhys:

"Don't hold your breath
The night's still young
Confront your death
Like father, like son"

Sounds like it's sang by Daryus rather than by Arhys.

Could it be a simple printing mistake or have I missed something?

I have seen the same thing and I also think it's a mistake, albeit a printing mistake. Otherwise, it wouldn't make sense.

B.Lee
Title: Re: The Walking Shadow - SPOILER ALERT!
Post by: pcs90 on January 28, 2016, 05:26:57 PM
Apparently some people have a booklet that says Daryus did in fact sing those lines...has to be a misprint.

One other thing I'm wondering, since it's related...what happens to Daryus anyway? After this song he has no more lines unless I missed them. Is he the scream at the end of MLF?
Title: Re: The Walking Shadow - SPOILER ALERT!
Post by: erwinrafael on January 28, 2016, 05:28:32 PM
Quote from: pcs90 on January 28, 2016, 05:26:57 PM
Apparently some people have a booklet that says Daryus did in fact sing those lines...has to be a misprint.

One other thing I'm wondering, since it's related...what happens to Daryus anyway? After this song he has no more lines unless I missed them. Is he the scream at the end of MLF?

No that's Gabriel shouting in anguish.
Title: Re: The Walking Shadow - SPOILER ALERT!
Post by: pcs90 on January 28, 2016, 05:32:22 PM
That's what I thought from the lyrics but had to check. Daryus just kind of disappears then I guess lol
Title: Re: The Walking Shadow - SPOILER ALERT!
Post by: erwinrafael on January 28, 2016, 05:34:21 PM
Quote from: pcs90 on January 28, 2016, 05:32:22 PM
That's what I thought from the lyrics but had to check. Daryus just kind of disappears then I guess lol

The Astonishing part 2.  :lol
Title: Re: The Walking Shadow - SPOILER ALERT!
Post by: Pragmaticcircus on January 28, 2016, 05:36:46 PM
Quote from: erwinrafael on January 28, 2016, 05:34:21 PM
Quote from: pcs90 on January 28, 2016, 05:32:22 PM
That's what I thought from the lyrics but had to check. Daryus just kind of disappears then I guess lol

The Astonishing part 2.  :lol

The Astonishing part 2: The Amazing?
Title: Re: The Walking Shadow - SPOILER ALERT!
Post by: ariich on January 28, 2016, 11:08:44 PM
Quote from: pcs90 on January 28, 2016, 05:26:57 PM
One other thing I'm wondering, since it's related...what happens to Daryus anyway? After this song he has no more lines unless I missed them. Is he the scream at the end of MLF?
Not sure if he has any more lines, but pretty sure Nafaryus is speaking to him in the title track, telling him off but forgiving him for his mistakes.
Title: Re: The Walking Shadow - SPOILER ALERT!
Post by: V_R11 on January 28, 2016, 11:19:50 PM
Quote from: erwinrafael on January 28, 2016, 05:34:21 PM
Quote from: pcs90 on January 28, 2016, 05:32:22 PM
That's what I thought from the lyrics but had to check. Daryus just kind of disappears then I guess lol

The Astonishing part 2.  :lol

The Astonishing part 2: The Really Astonishing

Which doubles into Metropolis part 3,where spirits carry on
Title: Re: The Walking Shadow - SPOILER ALERT!
Post by: Pragmaticcircus on January 28, 2016, 11:23:00 PM
Quote from: V_R11 on January 28, 2016, 11:19:50 PM
Quote from: erwinrafael on January 28, 2016, 05:34:21 PM
Quote from: pcs90 on January 28, 2016, 05:32:22 PM
That's what I thought from the lyrics but had to check. Daryus just kind of disappears then I guess lol

The Astonishing part 2.  :lol

The Astonishing part 2: The Really Astonishing

Which doubles into Metropolis part 3,where spirits carry on

In my dreams it is:
METROPOLIS PART 3: THE LAKE OF FIRE
(Just for the continuity)  :corn
Title: Re: The Walking Shadow - SPOILER ALERT!
Post by: jayvee3 on January 29, 2016, 03:04:39 AM
My booklet says Arhys, but when I heard it, I just took it as a clear misprint. Has to be Daryus.

He has no more speaking lines, but after mistakingly attacking Faythe, i'd hazard a guess that he did the bolt. The last we hear in the title track, Arabelle says:

My Prince, My Son,
You got lost along the way,
In light of this new burden that you face,
You are forgiven on this day.

So, disappointed in him no doubt, but ultimately forgiven.

Even though Nafaryus is depicted as a pretty cold-blooded ruler, I kind of like how the Empire have that real sense of family. It's a neat touch in the story.
Title: Re: The Walking Shadow - SPOILER ALERT!
Post by: TheGreatPretender on January 29, 2016, 03:36:40 AM
Quote from: Pragmaticcircus on January 28, 2016, 05:36:46 PM
Quote from: erwinrafael on January 28, 2016, 05:34:21 PM
Quote from: pcs90 on January 28, 2016, 05:32:22 PM
That's what I thought from the lyrics but had to check. Daryus just kind of disappears then I guess lol

The Astonishing part 2.  :lol

The Astonishing part 2: The Amazing?

No, man, this one's gonna be written by James LaBrie and it will be called "The Phenomening".
Title: Re: The Walking Shadow - SPOILER ALERT!
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 29, 2016, 05:02:29 AM
Reading through, it has to be Daryus, because it's setting up what he does next. I have a copy of the lyrics from earlier than the booklet, and it also says Arhys, so I think this mistake must trace far back, and not only at the booklet stage.
Title: Re: The Walking Shadow - SPOILER ALERT!
Post by: RoeDent on January 29, 2016, 07:37:12 AM
Quote from: TheGreatPretender on January 29, 2016, 03:36:40 AM
No, man, this one's gonna be written by James LaBrie and it will be called "The Phenomening".

How about "The Especially Specialling"?
Title: Re: The Walking Shadow - SPOILER ALERT!
Post by: Voices on January 29, 2016, 09:48:26 AM
Quote from: TheGreatPretender on January 29, 2016, 03:36:40 AM
Quote from: Pragmaticcircus on January 28, 2016, 05:36:46 PM
Quote from: erwinrafael on January 28, 2016, 05:34:21 PM
Quote from: pcs90 on January 28, 2016, 05:32:22 PM
That's what I thought from the lyrics but had to check. Daryus just kind of disappears then I guess lol

The Astonishing part 2.  :lol

The Astonishing part 2: The Amazing?

No, man, this one's gonna be written by James LaBrie and it will be called "The Phenomening".

"The Phenomening"  :rollin :lol :lol