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Title: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: Pax on August 24, 2015, 04:28:57 AM
I realized there's no word ''the'' in any DT album title, but many songs have it. I don't think it's accidental, since there are many titles in which ''the'' would fit nicely. Have you guys also realized that? Do you think there's a certain reason for that, or just an ''easter egg''?
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: Rodni Demental on August 24, 2015, 04:46:24 AM
If it was a concious choice for whatever crazy reason, like I dunno, complication in using it in some sentences? Who knows. Or a bit more likely; "the" usually precedes a noun, but DT don't really go for specific titles as their album titles. I guess you could say The Train of Thought, or The Black Clouds and Silver Linings but when I think of every other album title it wouldn't really fit. Most of the titles seem to evoke some kind of imagery or symbolise aspects of their albums and perhaps limiting it to a certain title just hasn't fitted for any of their album titles so far.

Anyway, one thing's for sure is that they're certainly not afraid of using: 'or' 'and' or 'of' in their titles.
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: BlackInk on August 24, 2015, 06:12:37 AM
I think 'the' often makes a title specific and concrete, and things often sound more ambiguous and poetic without it. Taking the 'the's out of a title is also much like trimming unnecessary fat. The best example of recent years is the last Hobbit movie. The Battle of the Five Armies is a complete mess of a title. But had they only excluded the two 'the's, it would be much better title. Battle of Five Armies. There's very rarely need for excessive 'the's.
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: Stadler on August 24, 2015, 06:18:27 AM
I hate when it gets dropped from "prom".  I went to "THE prom", apparently kids today go to something different, something called "prom".  You hear stage moms use it all the time too when blowing hot air about their precious little kids:  "Our cheerleading team is going to Nationals".   Makes me apoplectic. 
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: Rodni Demental on August 24, 2015, 06:37:14 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: hefdaddy42 on August 24, 2015, 07:54:01 AM
I realized there's no word ''the'' in any DT album title, but many songs have it. I don't think it's accidental, since there are many titles in which ''the'' would fit nicely. Have you guys also realized that? Do you think there's a certain reason for that, or just an ''easter egg''?

“Deep in the fundamental heart of mind and Universe there is a reason.” - Douglas Adams
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: Infinite Cactus on August 24, 2015, 08:35:05 AM
This is a real thread.


















































The When Dream and Day The Unite
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: CDrice on August 24, 2015, 10:03:54 AM
Interviewer: So John, how will your 12th album will be named?
John: We decided to call it ''Dream Ater''.
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: Onno on August 24, 2015, 11:17:37 AM
This thread  :rollin
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: TAC on August 24, 2015, 12:10:41 PM
I think it's weird that none of them have an "O'" in their names. Like John O'Petrucci or John O'Myung.
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on August 24, 2015, 12:13:03 PM
Dream Theater.

It's on every cover.

EDIT:

Interviewer: So John, how will your 12th album will be named?
John: We decided to call it ''Dream Ater''.

Or even better, this.   :facepalm:
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: King Postwhore on August 24, 2015, 01:06:33 PM
I bet the guys talk in 3rd person all the time.  Yes, I'm in The Dream Theater.
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: Chino on August 24, 2015, 01:19:02 PM
Live at the Marque
Breaking the Fourth Wall
The Majesty Demos

Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: King Postwhore on August 24, 2015, 01:19:42 PM
Live at the Marque
Breaking the Fourth Wall
The Majesty Demos

WTheF. :lol
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: CDrice on August 24, 2015, 01:50:30 PM
Falling Into Infinithe
Metheropolis Part 2: Scenes from a memory
Six Thegrees of Inner Therbulence
Train of Theght
Octhevarium
Systhematic Chaos
A Theramatic Turn of Events
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: Kotowboy on August 24, 2015, 02:28:35 PM
I think it's weird that none of them have an "O'" in their names. Like John O'Petrucci or John O'Myung.

" Mike O' what the fuck has he said this time? "
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: 425 on August 24, 2015, 02:31:14 PM
I realized there's no word ''the'' in any DT album title, but many songs have it. I don't think it's accidental, since there are many titles in which ''the'' would fit nicely. Have you guys also realized that? Do you think there's a certain reason for that, or just an ''easter egg''?

There's like one title that "the" would even slightly make sense being in: Train of Thought. Which just sounds better as it is without that "the."
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: TheSilentHam on August 24, 2015, 02:38:48 PM
WWRD - Rush didn't do it until their 14th studio album, so maybe it's still coming for DT.  Maybe it will happen with the change of the seasons.
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: rumborak on August 24, 2015, 03:54:46 PM
Next album title:

Theater's Heathen Northen

T.H.E.
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: Runei on August 24, 2015, 04:00:27 PM
When the Dream and the Day Unite
The Images and the Words
The Awake
The Change of the Seasons
The Falling in the Infinity
The Metropolis part 2: The Scenes from the Memory
The Six Degrees of the Inner Turbulences
The Train of the Thoughts
The Octavarium
The Systematic Chaos
The Black Clouds & the Silver Linings
The Dramatic Turn of the Events
The Dream Theater
The DT13

But seriously, I get your point. Very few artists ever give names to their albums that start with 'the'. First one to pop into my head is 'The Dreaming' by Kate Bush. Actually, half of her albums begin like that. I think it gives a bolder feel to the title.
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: Jaffa on August 24, 2015, 04:01:06 PM
Falling Into Infinithe
Metheropolis Part 2: Scenes from a memory
Six Thegrees of Inner Therbulence
Train of Theght
Octhevarium
Systhematic Chaos
A Theramatic Turn of Events

 :rollin
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: gmillerdrake on August 24, 2015, 04:13:02 PM
This is a THE real thread
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: Infinite Cactus on August 24, 2015, 04:37:57 PM
I messed up bad. DAMNIT.
The When Dream and Day The Unite
Images The and Words
The A Change of the Seasons
Systematic The Chaos
Fixed a few for you to make more sense.
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: Pax on August 25, 2015, 04:20:22 AM
It's strange they didn't call Octavarium (song only, not the album) ''The Octavarium'', that would be in their style :D
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: Train of Naught on August 25, 2015, 08:24:12 AM
Interviewer: So John, how will your 12th album will be named?
John: We decided to call it ''Dream Ater''.
Best comment
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: 425 on August 25, 2015, 02:32:45 PM
Even better if you imagine it as John Myung.
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: Elite on August 28, 2015, 04:29:02 PM
ThisThe thread  :rollin

I was thinking of the funny stuff to add, but this comment sums it up nicely.
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: Zook on August 29, 2015, 03:29:11 AM
The Ass and the Balls.
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: ToT-147 on August 30, 2015, 06:49:50 PM
Systematic The Chaos

 :lol That's like "Alexander the Great"..


/THrEad
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on September 11, 2015, 03:21:15 AM
The When Dream and Day The Unite
This. :rollin
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: DragonAttack on November 04, 2015, 10:24:21 PM
Well, not anymore. 
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 04, 2015, 10:26:19 PM
Theory - Dream Theater were going to name the new album "Astonishing", but then they read this read and retitled it "The Astonishing". So if you don't think the new title makes sense, it's your own fault DTF. :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: Train of Naught on November 05, 2015, 12:42:42 AM
When the Dream and the Day Unite
The Images and the Words
The Awake
The Change of the Seasons
The Falling in the Infinity
The Metropolis part 2: The Scenes from the Memory
The Six Degrees of the Inner Turbulences
The Train of the Thoughts
The Octavarium
The Systematic Chaos
The Black Clouds & the Silver Linings
The Dramatic Turn of the Events
The Dream Theater
The Astonishing
FTFY
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: Chino on November 05, 2015, 02:09:21 PM
/Thread
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: Darkstarshades on November 05, 2015, 03:18:51 PM
This thread predicted the album.
Regards.
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: Elite on November 05, 2015, 03:21:10 PM
Oh my god, this trainwreck of a thread again :lol
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: Kotowboy on November 05, 2015, 03:22:08 PM
Oh my god, this trainwreck of THE thread again :lol

FTFY
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: Elite on November 05, 2015, 03:24:17 PM
Oh my god, this trainwreck of THE thread again :lol

FTFY

Fixed the for you.

Why the thank you
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: TioJorge on November 05, 2015, 05:23:34 PM
The I the think the the the amount the of the concentration the on the such the a the subject the is the completely the fucking the insane the but the at the the the same the time the it's the totally the and the completely the on the par the with the DT the fans the and the I'd the expect the nothing the less. The.

 :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: LCArenas on November 05, 2015, 08:56:33 PM
I don't know why but the first thing that came to my mind when I heard the album title was Fantastic Mr. Fox.

Anyway, my guess is that "The Astonishing" is the nickname of a character on the album, probably the protagonist, to make him more specific.
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: Crow on November 05, 2015, 09:31:09 PM
The The Astonishing
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: ErHaO on November 06, 2015, 02:32:45 AM
Now that they embrace the "the", I'd like a namechange to The Dream Theaters as well. Should do well with the mainstream, might even lead to the Grammy award this time.
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: CDrice on November 06, 2015, 05:32:32 AM
The Asthenishing
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: Pax on November 07, 2015, 03:25:10 AM
Is it even plausible that DT actually saw this thread months ago, and then they decided to include ''the'' in their new album title, because they wanted to fuck this thread up? :D
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: MirrorMask on November 07, 2015, 03:51:07 AM
Making a choice about the most defining detail about their own work, the title, just because they read a thread on a forum? nah, this does not even remotely comes close to plausible  :P
Title: Re: Lack of ''the'' in album names
Post by: Elite on November 07, 2015, 08:29:17 AM
The Asthenishing

:lol