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Dream Theater => Dream Theater => Topic started by: Darkstarshades on May 26, 2015, 11:08:17 PM
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Dunno if this has been discussed before but I haven't been able to find anything other than comparisons between each album and su on.
Anyway, here's the deal, either the weakest or worst song from each album for you, let's see which one ranks the most dislikes.
Here's mine.
WDADU: Ytse Jam (Idk, I just can't like the studio version having so awesome live performances)
Images and Words: Either Another Day or Pull me Under (While they are cool, since the entire album is, I just rarely find myself listening to these, I think they're pretty weak compared to the other ones).
Awake: 6:00
Falling into Infinity: New Millenium
Scenes from a Memory: The Dance of Eternity (Absolutely love the track as much as the entire album, but if I had to pick a weakest one from this album, I'd go for the Dance)
6DOIT: Blind Faith
ToT: Honor Thy Father
Octavarium: These Walls
Systematic Chaos: The Ministry of Lost Souls (A song that I love and listen in veeery special situations, which are usually veeery apart from each other, since I can't really listen to it often)
BC&SL: Wither
ADTOE: Outcry
DT: The Looking Glass
And for you?
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The Killing Hand
Under a Glass Moon
Scarred
Just Let Me Breathe
The Dance of Eternity
Blind Faith
Stream of Consciousness
The Answer Lies Within
The Dark Eternal Night
A Rite of Passage
Lost Not Forgotten
The Looking Glass
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This is what I would go with at the moment:
Light Fuse and Get Away
Another Day
Lie
Just Let Me Breathe
Through Her Eyes (well, probably Through My Words or Regression, but I went with a real song)
The Great Debate
Honor Thy Father
Never Enough
Forsaken
Wither
Build Me Up, Break Me Down
Enigma Machine
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I'll give it a go. I'm also gonna put some side notes in parenthesis.
When Dream and Day Unite- A Forture in Lies (Light Fuse and Get Away is close as well.)
Images and Words- Surrounded (Had to pick one. Images and Words doesn't have a bad song on it. They're all masterpieces.)
Awake- Innocence Faded (I was very close to picking Space-Dye Vest.)
Falling Into Infinity- New Millennium (I don't get the love for this song. It's the closest a Dream Theater song comes to being unlistenable.)
Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes From a Memory- Through My Words (It's not really a full song so it's kind of unfair.)
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence- The Great Debate (Another moment where I had to pick one but no songs are bad.)
Train of Thought- Endless Sacrifice (I'm not fond of This Dying Soul either)
Octavarium- I Walk Beside You (I actually like this song but it is the low point of the album for me.)
Systematic Chaos- The Dark Eternal Night (Decent instrumental section, good chorus, horrible verses and solos).
Black Clouds & Silver Linings- A Rite of Passage (Bad song barely saved by a good instrumental section. I love bebot though.)
A Dramatic Turn of Events- Build Me Up, Break Me Down (It's pretty bland but it's ok.)
Dream Theater- The Bigger Picture (This and Behind the Veil are just the songs in between Enigma Machine and Surrender to Reason for me, but Behind the Veil has just a little bit more to offer than The Bigger Picture.)
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WDADU - Status Seeker, Light Fuse and Get Away, TOWHTSTS, OAMOT. I can't even split hairs here.
IAW - LTL - Instrumentally it's amazing, but the verses and chorus let it down. The only weaker song on the album imo.
Awake - Scarred or SDV
FII - YNM - I love the rest of the album, and while YNM isn't half as bad as people say, it's still very average and skippable.
SFAM - Through Her Eyes - There's not a bad song on the album, but this song doesn't have as much to offer as the rest of the album, so it's the least "essential". JLB's emotional vocals are the high point.
SDOIT - TGD - A great song and still an 8/10, but the rest of the album is just amazinger!
TOT - Endless Sacrifice - I used to enjoy it a lot, and I still love the instrumental section, but it doesn't interest me so much these days. I could still listen to it if I was listening to the album quite happily.
8V - Never Enough - This song still has some great sections, but it's a bit confused overall. TALW is a bit slow, but it's a nice enough song, and IWBY is actually a very well crafted pop rock song.
SC - PoW - I actually don't hate anything on the album, but I like this song the least. I still respect it for trying something new and different. The other "shorter" songs on the album are great.
BCASL - TSF - It works ok enough in the context of the whole 12SS, but it's mostly just a medley of much better songs. TBOT is the only other song I don't like a lot, but that has that incredible outro.
ADTOE - Outcry - I find it dull, and the instrumental section goes on far too long.
DT12 - The Bigger Picture - I don't find it memorable, and I don't like the chorus.
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The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun
Another Day
Silent Man
Hollow Years
Strange Deja Vu
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
Stream of Conciousness
Panic Attack
Constant Motion
The Best of Times
Outcry
False Awakening Suite
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WDADU - The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun/Light Fuse and Get Away
I&W - Pull Me Under (the hardest one to pick)
Awake - Caught in a Web
FII - Just Let Me Breathe
SFAM - Strange Deja Vu
SDOIT - The Great Debate
ToT - Vacant
8V - Never Enough
SC - Repentance
BL&SL - A Rite Of Passage
ADTOE - Outcry
DT12 - Enigma Machine
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Finding the weakest song from each album is actually much easier for me than naming the best song. And the weakest song can still be strong, it's just weak in comparison to other masterpieces.
WDADU: The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun (just not memorable enough)
I&W: Under A Glass Moon (nice guitar solo but just not that good as a song)
Awake: Lifting Shadows Off A Dream (doesn't grab me)
FII: You Not Me (not as bad as some make it out to be, but not that good either)
SFAM: The Dance Of Eternity (too much pointless wankery)
SDOIT: Disappear (just bland for me)
TOT: Vacant (doesn't feel like a song, more like an intro for Stream Of Consciousness)
8VM: The Answer Lies Within (nice but nothing special)
SC: The Ministry Of Lost Souls (too long, too disjointed, chorus is boring)
BC&SL: The Shattered Fortress (as a closing section for the suite it's ok, as a standalone song there's too much repetition and too few new ideas)
ADTOE: Build Me Up, Break Me Down (kinda boring)
DT12: Along For The Ride (nice but nothing special)
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WDADU - The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun
I&W - Pull Me Under (love them all though)
Awake - Scarred
FII - Just Let Me Breathe
SFAM - Through My Words
SDOIT - Blind Faith
TOT - Honor Thy Father
8VM - Panic Attack
SC - The Ministry Of Lost Souls (my least favourite DT song ever)
BC&SL - The Shattered Fortress
ADTOE - Outcry
DT12 - Along For The Ride
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WDADU - Light Fuse and Get Away (though it's more like whole album except The Killing Hand)
I&W - Under a Glass Moon (the only song I don't enjoy here)
Awake - Caught in a Web
FII - Just Let Me Breathe
SFAM - Through Her Eyes (I actually like Regression and Through My Words more)
SDOIT - Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
TOT - This Dying Soul
8VM - Never Enough
SC - Constant Motion
BC&SL - A Rite of Passage
ADTOE - Build Me Up, Break Me Down
DT12 - Enigma Machine
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WDADU - Light Fuse And Get Away (The intro to TOWHTSTS saves it from being the worst)
I&W - Another Day (Pull Me under being a close second)
Awake - Lie (This one's tough since the album is very consistent)
FII - You Not Me (Burning My Soul is quite close though)
SFAM - Through Her Eyes (except for Regression and Through My Words, still a great song)
SDOIT - The Glass Prison (Love this song, just not as much as the rest of this fantastic masterpiece of an album)
ToT - As I Am (Great opener and one of Petruccis mot badass solos, despite this, all the other tracks are even better)
Octavarium - The Answer Lies Within (it's an okay song on an otherwise great album)
SC - Constant Motion (Great instrumental section, horrible verses and chorus)
BC&SL - A Rite of Passage (Great guitar solo, great chorus and I also like the bebot solo, but the verses doesn't do much for me)
ADTOE - Beneath the Surface (The most boring ballad they ever wrote)
DT12 - Along For the Ride (I like the heavier bridge, the keyboard solo and JPs guitar work, other than that this song has nothing to offer)
Still a decent list of songs though.
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The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun
Wait For Sleep
Space-Dye Vest
You Not Me
Through Her Eyes
Misunderstood
Vacant
The Answer Lies Within
Repentance
A Rite of Passage
Beneath The Surface/Outcry
The Looking Glass/Along For the Ride
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The Ones Who
Another Day (least good, really)
The Silent Man (same as above)
You Not Me
Regression (it's not that it's not good, it simply is a very small song with the least space for great things to happen)
SDOIT1. The Glass Prison
SDOIT2. The Test That
This Dying Soul
Never Enough
Constant Motion
A Rite Of Passage
Far From Heaven
Enigma Machine (again, it's not bad per se, it's just the least good)
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WDADU - Light Fuse and Get Away probably, but I rarely listen to TOWHTSTS or Status Seeker either
I&W - Wait for Sleep - simply because it's the shortest on the album, beautiful track though
Awake - The Silent Man
FII - You Not Me
SFAM - Regression or Through My Words
SDOIT - Misunderstood
TOT - Vacant or Honor Thy Father. Both still great though.
8VM - I Walk Beside You
SC - Repentance
BC&SL - The Best of Times
ADTOE - Far From Heaven
DT12 - The Looking Glass
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WDADU - entire album
I&W - Take the Time
Awake - Erotomania
FII - Hollow Years
SFAM - Regression
SDOIT 1 - Disappear
SDOIT 2 - War Inside My Head
TOT - As I Am
Octavarium - The Answer Lies Within
SC - The Ministry Of Lost Souls
BC&SL - Wither
ADToE - Far From Heaven
DT12 - Enigma Machine / The Looking Glass - always skip both of them
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The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun
Take the Time (Still love it though)
Caught in a Web
Just Let Me Breathe
Beyond This Life
The Great Debate (Also still love this one)
This Dying Soul
I Walk Beside You
The Ministry of Lost Souls
The Best of Times
Build Me Up, Break Me Down
The Looking Glass
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Out of the unreleased or non album non-Majesty songs, which are
ACOS
To Live Forever
Eve
Where Are You Now?
Raise The Knife
You Or Me
The Way It Used To Be
Cover My Eyes
Speak To Me
My pick for the worst of this lost is: Raise The Knife
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I hate threads that ask for the "worst" whatever. But on every album, there is definitely a least favorite, so fair enough.
WDADU - TOWHTSTS. Never really cared for this song. It just seems to meander all over the place and never grabs me.
I&W - Another Day. Easy choice. We already have Kenny G.
Awake - Space Dye Vest. I almost reconsidered this choice because the live version on BTFW is actually pretty good. But I still don't really like the studio version at all.
FII - You Not Me. No big surprise.
SFAM - Regression, I suppose. Even after all these years, these songs still feel so hard to separate from one another. Still a case where the whole is greater than the sum of the parts, but each of the parts feels so integral.
SDOIT - Blind Faith. Despite some tasty bits, the lyrics kill it for me, as does the fact that there are parts of the song where I find myself tuning out. Not a bad song by any stretch, but it feels so far below the very high standard set by the rest of the album.
TOT - Honor Thy Father. But tough call.
8VM - The Answer Lies Within. Just not interesting to me.
SC - Prophets of War. Easily my least favorite song from the band.
BC&SL - The Best of Times. Not a bad song. But as I have said many times, I just do not connect to it.
ADTOE - Far From Heaven. Another case of simply having to choose a "least favorite," since I like all the songs this album has to offer.
DT12 - The Looking Glass. Same as with Far From Heaven.
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The Ones Who Helped to Set the Sun (actually most of WDADU, but this one seems to drag too long for me)
Another Day (I don't dislike it. Just don't like it as much as the rest)
Scarred (please don't kill me, but just didn't like it as much as the rest. Something had to give, right?)
Anna Lee
Through My Words. (I play Regression as an Intro to Spirit Carries On live, but Thriugh My Words never really seemed like it should have been a seperate track from Fatal Tragedy, so I dislike it as a standalone track, not as a whole)
Disappear (really bums me out. Don't like feeling bummed out)
Honor Thy Father (took me the longest to get into this one out of the whole album)
Answer Lies Withun (another song that I don't dislike, but I just don't like as mushc as the rest of Octavarium)
Repentance (long and didn't really go anywhere, my least favourite song in the twelve-step suite actually)
The Best of Times (tell you the truth, I actually prefer the Mike Portnoy sing version to the LaBrie version, and just the least listened to off of BC&SL for me)
Outcry (if I listened to it more, I'd love it, but I just don't listen to it as much)
Looking Glass (feels way too much like a cover of something... Just not my favourite, I guess)
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Status Seeker
Another Day
Caught In A Web
You Not Me
Home
6 Degrees
Vacant
The Answer Lies Within
Repentance
The Shattered Fotress
Build Me Up Break Me Down
Enigma Machine
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I won't say "worst song" but "least favorite" from each album.
WDADU - The ones who help to set the sun (I just don't feel it, it seems like a reaaaaaally long song besides the 8 minute mark)
I&W - Pull Me Under (Because it's not as majestic as the other masterpieces, although it's an amazing song)
AWAKE - Lie (It has a simpler vibe than the other songs, but I like the ending)
FII - Lines in the sand (Don't know why but I can't stand the begginning)
SFAM - Through My Words (Because it works like an intro to Fatal Tragendy)
SDOIT - Blind Faith (I really like this song, but I listen more to the other 5 songs)
TOT - As I Am (Good song, but the others are better)
8V - These Walls (All 8V songs are amazing, but I don't listen this song as much as the other 7)
SC - The Dark Eternal Night (Didn't like the rapping thing)
BC&SL - A Rite of Passage (Can't listen to this, the instrumental part and the Petrucci's parts on the chorus are pretty good, but overall is not their best)
ADTOE - Build me up, Break me down (Better than AROP but it's kinda the same)
DT - Behind the veil (The less solid song on the album)
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Only a Matter of Time :censored
Wait for Sleep ::)
Lie ::)
Take Away My Pain :censored :censored
Through Her Eyes :censored :censored
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence ::)
Honor Thy Father ::)
I Walk Beside You ::)
The Dark Eternal Night :censored :censored
A Rite of Passage :censored
Build Me Up, Break Me Down :censored :censored :censored
Behind The Veil :censored :censored
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WDADU - The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun
I&W - Under a Glass Moon
Awake - Innocence Faded
FII - Just Let Me Breathe
SFAM - Through Her Eyes (not counting Through My Words)
SDOIT - The Great Debate (probably the best in this list)
ToT - This Dying Soul
8V - I Walk Beside You
SC - Prophets of War
BL&SL - Wither
ADTOE - Build Me Up, Break Me Down (maybe the worst in all discography)
DT12 - Enigma Machine
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Majesty Demos - Your Majesty
When Dream & Day Unite - Light Fuse and Get Away
Images & Words - Another Day
Awake - Innocence Faded
Falling Into Infinity - Take Away My Pain
Cleaning Out the Closet - Where Are You Now?
Scenes From a Memory - Regression
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence - Misunderstood
Train of Thought - Vacant
Octavarium - The Answer Lies Within
Systematic Chaos - Constant Motion
Black Clouds & Silver Linings - A Rite of Passage
A Dramatic Turn of Events - Far From Heaven
Dream Theater - False Awakening Suite
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WDADU: Ytse Jam
Images and Words: None
Awake: The Silent Mat (But still awesome)
Falling into Infinity: You Not Me
Scenes from a Memory: Regression (but still awesome)
6DOIT: The Glass Prison or Disappear (both still awesome)
ToT: Vacant
Octavarium: Never Enough
Systematic Chaos: Almost entire album :P
BC&SL: TSF
ADTOE: Build me up, Break me down
DT: Enigma Machine
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I too have to take exception to the term "worst." There are very few DT songs that could even fit this description. When asked to do this for each album, I had to name some songs that are actually very good.
Here is my list:
Only a Matter of Time
Surrounded
Lifting Shadows off a Dream
Anna Lee
Through My Words (only because it's the shortest track)
Blind Faith
As I Am (Awesome song but I had to pick one)
The Answer Lies Within
Repentance
The Best of Times
Beneath the Surface
Surrender to Reason
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Light Fuse & Get Away
Under a Glass Moon (no weak songs here)
Innocence Faded (ditto, but IF feels slightly out of place compared to the rest)
New Millennium
Beyond This Life
Six Degrees
This Dying Soul
Never Enough
The Dark Eternal Night (CM and POW aren't a lot better though)
A Rite of Passage
Lost Not Forgotten
Enigma Machine
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When Dream & Day Unite - Light Fuse and Get Away
Images & Words - Another Day
Awake - Space-Dye Vest
Falling Into Infinity - You Not Me
Scenes From a Memory - Regression
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence - The Great Debate
Train of Thought - Stream of Conciousness
Octavarium - The Answer Lies Within
Systematic Chaos - Prophets of War
Black Clouds & Silver Linings - A Nightmare to Remember
A Dramatic Turn of Events - Build Me Up, Break Me Down
Dream Theater - The Looking Glass
I think that's about right.
At least half of these are still pretty good songs.
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The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun
Another Day
Lifting Shadows off a Dream
You Not Me
Regression
Disappear
Vacant
Answer Lies Within
Prophets Of War
A Rite Of Passage
Build Me Up, Break Me Down
False Awakening Suite
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Light Fuse and Get Away (I still manage to like this song though, the section right after chorus 2 is really good)
Pull Me Under (still really good)
Erotomania (a fun song but not as good as the rest)
Burning My Soul (probably least favourite DT song, but still good)
One Last Time (the SDV reprise I find the vocal phrasing a bit odd)
Blind Faith (I could have picked any song because it's all fantastic)
This Dying Soul (most of it's good, but the ending was a bit unnecessary)
Can't pick one for Octavarium!! XD (maaaybe Panic Attack but even that's amazing)
Constant Motion (not very good in comparison to the rest of the album)
A Rite of Passage (still a good song)
Build Me Up, Break Me Down (a good job at a poppier metal song though)
Enigma Machine (really fun to listen to, but the rest of the album makes me feel better inside)
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WDADU: Status Seeker
Images and Words: Wait for Sleep
Awake: Innocense Faded
Falling into Infinity: Just Let Me Breathe
Scenes from a Memory: Dance of Eternity
6DOIT: 6DOIT (which I like several parts of, but if we count it as a whole song which I really don't, it would be this one because I don't like several of the parts/songs)
ToT: Honor Thy Father
Octavarium: Full Circle. I love every song but 8V is almost unlistenable because of this one part. I need to make an edit without Full Circle.
Systematic Chaos: None. Seriously, this is one of my two favorite albums.
BC&SL: Wither
ADTOE: None (my other favorite album) although I rarely listen to Far from Heaven
DT: Enemy Inside
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Afterlife
Take the Time
Voices
Anna Lee
Through Her Eyes
The Great Debate
Vacant
Never Enough
Forsaken
A Rite Of Passage
Lost Not Forgotten
The Enemy Inside
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WDADU: Light Fuse and Get Away or The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun
I&W: Under a Glass Moon
Awake: Innocence Faded
FII: Just Let Me Breathe
SFAM: Regression (no bad songs here)
SDOIT: The Great Debate
TOT: As I Am
8V: The Answer Lies Within
SC: Prophets of War (by a lot too)
BC&SL: A Rite of Passage (also by a decent margin)
ADTOE: Build Me Up, Break Me Down
DT12: False Awakening Suite
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Status Seeker
Another Day
Lifting Shadows off a Dream
Burning My Soul
Through Her Eyes
The Great Debate
Honor Thy Father
The Root of All Evil
Repentance
Wither
This is the Life
Along for the Ride
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There are no DT songs I really dislike but each album does have its weaker (very relative concept here) moments. Here's my list of 'least favourite' tracks, with my stand-alone ratings of the songs in brackets:
Status Seeker (2/10)
Another Day (5/10)
The Silent Man (6/10)
Just Let Me Breathe (4/10)
Through Her Eyes (4/10)
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (8/10)
Honor Thy Father (7/10)
Sacrificed Sons (6/10)
Repentence (5/10)
Rite of Passage (3/10)
Far From Heaven (7/10)
The Enemy Inside (7/10)
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Status Seeker or Only a Matter of Time
Another Day
Innocence Faded
You Not Me
Home
The Great Debate
In the Name of God
The Answer Lies Within
Prophets of War
Rite of Passage
On the Backs of Angels
Surrender to Reason
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1. Light Fuse Get Away
2. Under a Glass Moon
3. Lie
4. You Not Me
5. Through Her Eyes
6. Misunderstood
7. In the Name of God
8. Never Enough
9. Prophets of War
10. A Nightmare to Remember
11. Build Me Up, Break Me Down
12. Enigma Machine
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The Ones Who Help to set the Sun
Another Day
The Silent Man
You Not Me
The Dance of Eternity
The Great Debate
This Dying Soul
The Answer Lies Within
The Dark Eternal Night
A Rite of Passage
Build Me Up, Break Me Down
Enigma Machine
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Status Seeker (still pretty good)
Under a Glass Moon (still awesome)
Lie (still awesome)
You Not Me (not good)
Regression (by default)
The Great Debate (good song, with some killer parts, but just lacks that extra little something)
This Dying Soul (has some great parts, but some meh parts as well)
Never Enough (the Muse riff is good, but the lyrics really ruin this)
Constant Motion (good riff and great JP solo are ruined by embarrassingly bad vocal melodies...FOREVER MORE! INTO THE NIGHT BLISTERING!...so bad)
A Rite of Passage (not bad, just kind of bland)
On the Backs of Angels (very vanilla)
False Awakening Suite (enjoyable on a cheeseball level, but one of their lesser instrumentals)
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UGH!! I forget about Lie because I dislike it so much...
Trade out my Innocence Faded for Lie
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Jammin, I know you won't mind my asking, I'm genuinely curious (lyrics do matter, after all)...I couldn't help notice many of your pics are songs which deal with the theme of God, religious ethics, or spirituality. Has that influenced your decision, or is it purely on musical grounds you list them as your least favourites (it's just that I don't think I've ever seen anyone say In The Name of God is their least favourite, or On The Backs of Angels, or Surrender to Reason...)
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Status Seeker
Another Day
Lie
You Not Me
Regression
The Great Debate
Honor Thy Father
I Walk Beside You
Forsaken
The Best Of Times
Build Me Up, Break Me Down
Enigma Machine
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Jammin, I know you won't mind my asking, I'm genuinely curious (lyrics do matter, after all)...I couldn't help notice many of your pics are songs which deal with the theme of God, religious ethics, or spirituality. Has that influenced your decision, or is it purely on musical grounds you list them as your least favourites (it's just that I don't think I've ever seen anyone say In The Name of God is their least favourite, or On The Backs of Angels, or Surrender to Reason...)
Interesting. I hadn't caught that. It's ironic actually, because with In the Name of God in particular, I happen to be 100% on board with the lyrics. In fact, ITNOG may be among my all time favorite lyrics by DT. But honestly, the riff just didn't hit me the way that others did. The other two you mentioned are ones where the lyrics are not as familiar to me....and actually, the two most recent albums are among the hardest to choose. Because even if I just consider them mid-tier albums, they are shockingly consistent albums. There's honestly not a single dud that stands out on the entire thing, so choosing one is rather difficult. So on those last two, it is really just a matter of really liking the songs a lot, but not quite as much as the rest. ITNOG falls into the same category as Home...it's revered as a classic, and I just don't get it at all. I guess both of those songs just kinda bore me.
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When Dream and Day Unite - The Killing Hand
Images and Words - Wait For Sleep
Awake - Scarred
Falling Into Infinity - New Millennium
Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes From a Memory - Through My Words
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence - The Great Debate
Train of Thought - This Dying Soul
Octavarium - The Answer Lies Within (I like every song on this album, but it's not the worst)
Systematic Chaos - The Dark Eternal Night
Black Clouds & Silver Linings- A Rite of Passage
A Dramatic Turn of Events - Lost Not Forgotten
Dream Theater - The Bigger Picture
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Status Seeker
Another Day
Silent Man
You Not Me
Regression (Through Her Eyes if Regression isn't considered a "song")
The Glass Prison
Honor Thy Father
Never Enough
The Dark Eternal Night
A Rite of Passage
Far From Heaven
either of the 2 instrumentals, I don't care which
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It's amazing to me how many of these lists sound like a pretty killer playlist! :metal :biggrin:
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Only a Matter of Time
Another Day
Space Dye Vest
You Not Me
Regression
Disappear
Vacant
Never Enough
Prophets of War
The Best of Times
Far From Heaven
IT
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The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun
Surrounded
Scarred
Just Let Me Breathe
Beyond This Life
The Great Debate
Stream of Consciousness
Panic Attack
Repentance
The Best of Times
Build Me Up, Break Me Down
Behind The Veil
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I can't really say from WDADU, since I haven't yet listened to the full album.
I can't quite remember which I dislike from Images And Words the most.
6:00
Just Let Me Breathe
One Last Time
The Glass Prison
This Dying Soul
The Answer Lies Within
The Ministry Of Lost Souls
The Shattered Fortress
Far From Heaven
Enigma Machine
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Oh fun thread! There might be some controversy in mine, at least I like to think so. (+ for the good songs where I simply prefer the others, - for the ones I'm just straight up not into)
Only A Matter Of Time -
Pull Me Under -
Caught In A Web +
Burning My Soul -
Through My Words +
Disappear +
Endless Sacrifice -
I Walk Beside You +
Forsaken -
Rite Of Passage -
BmuBmd -
False Awakening Suite -
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i was about to make another post here but i saw that i already made one so I updated it with rankings
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When Dream and Day Unite: The Ones Who Help To Set the Sun
Images and Words: Another Day
Awake: 6:00
Falling Into Infinity: Burning My Soul
Scenes from a Memory: Through My Words
Six Degrees: The Great Debate
Train of Thought: Endless Sacrifice
Octavarium: The Answer Lies Within
Systematic Chaos: Repentance
Black Clouds and Silver Linings: The Best of Times
A Dramatic Turn of Events: Build Me Up, Break Me Down
Dream Theater: The Bigger Picture
For me, the hardest album to choose from is Train of Thought. With most of their albums, it's pretty easy for me to break the songs up into tiers and pick a least favorite, even if I like all the songs on the album. But I've always found Train of Thought really consistent. It doesn't have any real weak points for me. I picked Endless Sacrifice as the 'worst', but it was pretty much a dice roll.
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Innocence Faded
Home
The Great Debate
In the Name of God
On the Backs of Angels
Surrender to Reason
wth :facepalm:
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^^^^^^^^^
Remember that in some cases, you're confusing "worst" with "least best".. :angel:
EDIT: Also don't forget that in a later post, I amended my Awake choice. Lie is the replacement for IF.
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BCASL - TSF - It works ok enough in the context of the whole 12SS, but it's mostly just a medley of much better songs.
Tired of seeing this incorrect argument against TSF, I decided to listen the song with a chronometer and this was the result: 5:18 of medley parts and 7:31 of new material.. So it's not "mostly" a medley of other songs, it's less a medley (or "frankenstein", as some like to say) than a regular song..
Octavarium: Full Circle. I love every song but 8V is almost unlistenable because of this one part. I need to make an edit without Full Circle.
WTF!.. That's one of DT's best moments IMO.. W-T-F..
Anyway, I do that kind of things.. I mean, to make ''special'' editions of songs.. I edited the two songs of Haken with growling vocals, i. e.. ;D
About the thread per se (very interesting btw):
1- The Ones who Help to Set the Sun :|
2- Wait for Sleep :censored
3- Lifting Shadows Off a Dream :sad:
4- Just Let Me Breathe :censored
5- Regression :sad:
6- Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence :smiley:
7- Honor Thy Father :tup
8- Never Enough :smiley:
9- Prophets of War :smiley:
10- Wither :smiley:
11- Build Me Up, Break Me Down :|
12- Enigma Machine :-\
Another two :sad: songs: Anna Lee and Surrounded
Another :censored song: New Millenium
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BCASL - TSF - It works ok enough in the context of the whole 12SS, but it's mostly just a medley of much better songs.
Tired of seeing this incorrect argument against TSF, I decided to listen the song with a chronometer and this was the result: 5:18 of medley parts and 7:31 of new material.. So it's not "mostly" a medley of other songs, it's less a medley (or "frankenstein", as some like to say) than a regular song..
Your idea of new material must be more generous than mine, because from a quick skim I found about 3 minutes of material that wasn't derivative of earlier songs in a significant way, including the fade-in intro that accounts for half of that. That's a majority of the song.
But even by your own measure that is meant to defend the song, that's over 40% reused material. That's almost half. That is not less medley than a regular song. Most songs are 0% medley...
The rest of the suite is significantly less, usually just one or two connections. The first time I heard TDS, I didn't even know it was connected to TGP until over half way in when it reprised the heavy B riff (over 6 minutes in). TROAE has a one minute intro based on one reused riff from TDS (which makes sense as it's a bridge between the two songs), then has the reused chorus that goes for about half a minute. Repentance's main riff is a clean version of a riff from TDS, but is otherwise basically new.
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BCASL - TSF - It works ok enough in the context of the whole 12SS, but it's mostly just a medley of much better songs.
Tired of seeing this incorrect argument against TSF, I decided to listen the song with a chronometer and this was the result: 5:18 of medley parts and 7:31 of new material.. So it's not "mostly" a medley of other songs, it's less a medley (or "frankenstein", as some like to say) than a regular song..
Octavarium: Full Circle. I love every song but 8V is almost unlistenable because of this one part. I need to make an edit without Full Circle.
WTF!.. That's one of DT's best moments IMO.. W-T-F..
Anyway, I do that kind of things.. I mean, to make ''special'' editions of songs.. I edited the two songs of Haken with growling vocals, i. e.. ;D
About the thread per se (very interesting btw):
1- The Ones who Help to Set the Sun :|
2- Wait for Sleep :censored
3- Lifting Shadows Off a Dream :sad:
4- Just Let Me Breathe :censored
5- Regression :sad:
6- Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence :smiley:
7- Honor Thy Father :tup
8- Never Enough :smiley:
9- Prophets of War :smiley:
10- Wither :smiley:
11- Build Me Up, Break Me Down :|
12- Enigma Machine :-\
Another two :sad: songs: Anna Lee and Surrounded
Another :censored song: New Millenium
Agree with you there.
TSF is a pretty cool standalone song and... well, idk why is that one placed as the least best but not Repentance from SC
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From a quick skim I found about 3 minutes of material that wasn't derivative of earlier songs in a significant way, including the fade-in intro that accounts for half of that.
The intro?.. In which previous song is that part?..
But even by your own measure that is meant to defend the song, that's over 40% reused material. That's almost half. That is not less medley than a regular song. Most songs are 0% medley...
Maybe I express myself wrong.. I meant to say that there's more new material than medley parts in the song.. Yeah, obviously, is the 'most medley' song I know (a studio version song)..
TROAE has a one minute intro based on one reused riff from TDS (which makes sense as it's a bridge between the two songs), then has the reused chorus that goes for about half a minute.
And also the outro, with one of Octavarium's main melodies..
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Jammin, I know you won't mind my asking, I'm genuinely curious (lyrics do matter, after all)...I couldn't help notice many of your pics are songs which deal with the theme of God, religious ethics, or spirituality. Has that influenced your decision, or is it purely on musical grounds you list them as your least favourites (it's just that I don't think I've ever seen anyone say In The Name of God is their least favourite, or On The Backs of Angels, or Surrender to Reason...)
??? How so? The only one of his that deals with religion or spirituality is In the Name of God. Maybe The Great Debate, in an indirect way. But still, that is only two songs. I don't get where you are coming from.
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From a quick skim I found about 3 minutes of material that wasn't derivative of earlier songs in a significant way, including the fade-in intro that accounts for half of that.
The intro?.. In which previous song is that part?..
I mean the intro is part of the original material, not the other way around. Pardon my cruddy wording! I wasn't counting the Octavarium melody, since that's not a part of the 12SS. :tup
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I mean the intro is part of the original material, not the other way around. Pardon my cruddy wording!
No.. I was the one who got it wrong.. Your wording is fine.. ;)
??? How so? The only one of his that deals with religion or spirituality is In the Name of God. Maybe The Great Debate, in an indirect way. But still, that is only two songs. I don't get where you are coming from.
Now that I look at Jammin's list again, yeah, there aren't "many" songs in there dealing with those themes, even when I'd add The Answer Lies Within and Surrender to Reason about spirituality, and Prophets of War about religion..
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After reading the forum for months and signing up for it weeks ago, I thought now would be a good time to make my first post.
WD&DU: can't make a selection, because I've only listened to it all the way through a couple of times.
I&W: Another Day (not a bad song per se, but just the wimpiest on the album.)
A: The Mirror
FII: Anna Lee
SFAM: The Dance of Eternity (too much musical masturbation.)
SD: Disappear
TOT: Vacant
O: Octavarium (my least favorite of all of their epics.)
SC: Repentance
BC&SL: The Best of Times
ADTOE: On the Backs of Angels (how this was Grammy nominated is beyond me, when they've literally had dozens of better songs.)
DT: Don't care for any of The Bigger Picture, Behind the Veil, or Surrender to Reason.
So there you go. I'm looking forward to conversing with some of you from here on out.
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??? How so? The only one of his that deals with religion or spirituality is In the Name of God. Maybe The Great Debate, in an indirect way. But still, that is only two songs. I don't get where you are coming from.
Now that I look at Jammin's list again, yeah, there aren't "many" songs in there dealing with those themes, even when I'd add The Answer Lies Within and Surrender to Reason about spirituality, and Prophets of War about religion..
??? Um...NONE of those songs are about religion.
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Why do you say "none of those", when I'm just pointing out a single one?.. Anyway, maybe PoW it's not about religion.. But the other two ARE about spirituality..
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After reading the forum for months and signing up for it weeks ago, I thought now would be a good time to make my first post.
WD&DU: can't make a selection, because I've only listened to it all the way through a couple of times.
I&W: Another Day (not a bad song per se, but just the wimpiest on the album.)
A: The Mirror
FII: Anna Lee
SFAM: The Dance of Eternity (too much musical masturbation.)
SD: Disappear
TOT: Vacant
O: Octavarium (my least favorite of all of their epics.)
SC: Repentance
BC&SL: The Best of Times
ADTOE: On the Backs of Angels (how this was Grammy nominated is beyond me, when they've literally had dozens of better songs.)
DT: Don't care for any of The Bigger Picture, Behind the Veil, or Surrender to Reason.
So there you go. I'm looking forward to conversing with some of you from here on out.
What...? Wtf? :justjen :justjen :justjen
Anyway... Welcome!
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Honestly, there's not a DT song I don't like. I definitely know some of my least favorites, but there isn't a single song in their discography that I can say sucks. But, if I had to pick my least favorite of each album:
WDADU: Status Seeker
I&W: Another Day
Awake: Innocence Faded
FII: New Millennium
SFaM: Through My Words, by default.
Six Degrees: War Inside My Head (I can't pick any of the 6 songs, so I picked my least favorite part of SDoIT)
ToT: Stream of Consciousness
Octavarium: The Answer Lies Within
SC: Repentance
BC&SL: A Rite of Passage (least favorite DT song overall. It's super generic to me.)
ADToE: Build Me Up, Break Me Down
DT12: Along For the Ride
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When Dream and Day Unite: The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun
Images and Words: Surrounded
Awake: The Silent Man
Falling Into Infinity: Take Away My Pain/Anna Lee
Scenes From a Memory: Through Her Eyes
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: The Great Debate (disc 1), Goodnight Kiss (disc 2)
Train of Thought: Vacant
Octavarium: The Answer Lies Within
Systematic Chaos: Repentance
Black Clouds and Silver Linings: A Rite of Passage
A Dramatic Turn of Events: Far From Heaven
Dream Theater: The Looking Glass
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The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun
Pull me Under
The Mirror
Take Away my Pain
Through her Eyes
Losing Time
Honor Thy Father
Never Enough
In the Presence of Enemies pt.2
A Rite of Passage
Far from Heaven
Along for the Ride
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The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun
Wait For Sleep
Space-Dye Vest
You Not Me
Regression
Disappear
Vacant
I Walk Beside You
Constant Motion
Wither
Build Me Up, Break Me Down
Enigma Machine
Some albums are just too good, so that the worst song is still pretty good.
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Some albums are just too good, so that the worst song is still pretty good.
By that do you mean, pretty much all of them?
'cos I had pretty much taken that to be assumed when I wrote my list. :biggrin:
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Some albums are just too good, so that the worst song is still pretty good.
By that do you mean, pretty much all of them?
'cos I had pretty much taken that to be assumed when I wrote my list. :biggrin:
I pretty much despise You Not Me and Regression. Everything else is cool, though.