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Title: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Nick on August 22, 2014, 08:42:39 AM
Old one here: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=38112.0

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Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on August 22, 2014, 09:07:33 AM
deja vu

Hopefully this could save it:

(https://i.imgur.com/sIVIwBA.jpg)

Something I look forward to!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Bolsters on August 22, 2014, 09:33:02 AM
How the new thread should have started if you wanted to do it right:

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 :metal
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bosk1 on August 22, 2014, 09:50:54 AM
We already have a thread devoted solely to Avatar, so I am deleting all Avatar-related troll posts from this thread.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on August 22, 2014, 10:03:34 AM
For the record, this "Return of the Jedi" thread is the version that would've been directed by David Lynch, right? :hat
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on August 22, 2014, 10:38:18 AM
Nah, John Waters.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on August 22, 2014, 10:49:53 AM
Still haven't seen Avatar.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on August 22, 2014, 11:21:55 AM
Still haven't seen Avatar.
If you like sci-fi/action films, it's probably one you should see.  But it isn't life-changing or anything, and if those aren't your favorite kinds of films, this won't change your mind.

But it's a fun watch.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on August 22, 2014, 11:43:50 AM
Pretty much. I love obscure, dark sci/fi films, so this wasn't exactly my cup of tea but it's entertaining for the time you watch it. Nothing stuck with me and I didn't smile over the graphics as much as society did but it's still a nice popcorn flick.

I rewatched Coherence and still think it's one of the best sci/fi films I've ever seen; everything about it is constructed so delicately and even the douchiest of time-traveling/reality-bending sticklers will enjoy this as you'll be hard pressed to find any plot holes or attempt to even wrap your mind around what happened. It's awesome and this is what most sci/fi flicks are missing in my opinion...some deep thought behind the pizzazz and jazz hands. I mean, I love jazz hands and all, but flashiness only gets you so far; and in an age where everything is eye candy, I'm kinda glad there's very little to be found here in favor of putting your mind in a blender.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 22, 2014, 11:48:50 AM
I rewatched Coherence and still think it's one of the best sci/fi films I've ever seen; everything about it is constructed so delicately and even the douchiest of time-traveling/reality-bending sticklers will enjoy this as you'll be hard pressed to find any plot holes or attempt to even wrap your mind around what happened. It's awesome and this is what most sci/fi flicks are missing in my opinion...some deep thought behind the pizzazz and jazz hands. I mean, I love jazz hands and all, but flashiness only gets you so far; and in an age where everything is eye candy, I'm kinda glad there's very little to be found here in favor of putting your mind in a blender.

Never heard of it, but you had me at "time travel" and "douchiest". Probably gonna check this one out.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: adace on August 22, 2014, 12:52:26 PM
Pretty much. I love obscure, dark sci/fi films, so this wasn't exactly my cup of tea but it's entertaining for the time you watch it. Nothing stuck with me and I didn't smile over the graphics as much as society did but it's still a nice popcorn flick.

I rewatched Coherence and still think it's one of the best sci/fi films I've ever seen; everything about it is constructed so delicately and even the douchiest of time-traveling/reality-bending sticklers will enjoy this as you'll be hard pressed to find any plot holes or attempt to even wrap your mind around what happened. It's awesome and this is what most sci/fi flicks are missing in my opinion...some deep thought behind the pizzazz and jazz hands. I mean, I love jazz hands and all, but flashiness only gets you so far; and in an age where everything is eye candy, I'm kinda glad there's very little to be found here in favor of putting your mind in a blender.
You need to watch Beyond the Black Rainbow if you haven't already. It's intense, surreal and super-creepy. Should be right up your alley.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on August 22, 2014, 01:07:52 PM
I rewatched Coherence and still think it's one of the best sci/fi films I've ever seen; everything about it is constructed so delicately and even the douchiest of time-traveling/reality-bending sticklers will enjoy this as you'll be hard pressed to find any plot holes or attempt to even wrap your mind around what happened. It's awesome and this is what most sci/fi flicks are missing in my opinion...some deep thought behind the pizzazz and jazz hands. I mean, I love jazz hands and all, but flashiness only gets you so far; and in an age where everything is eye candy, I'm kinda glad there's very little to be found here in favor of putting your mind in a blender.

Never heard of it, but you had me at "time travel" and "douchiest". Probably gonna check this one out.

Cheating on my I see. :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 22, 2014, 10:32:26 PM
I rewatched Coherence and still think it's one of the best sci/fi films I've ever seen; everything about it is constructed so delicately and even the douchiest of time-traveling/reality-bending sticklers will enjoy this as you'll be hard pressed to find any plot holes or attempt to even wrap your mind around what happened. It's awesome and this is what most sci/fi flicks are missing in my opinion...some deep thought behind the pizzazz and jazz hands. I mean, I love jazz hands and all, but flashiness only gets you so far; and in an age where everything is eye candy, I'm kinda glad there's very little to be found here in favor of putting your mind in a blender.

Never heard of it, but you had me at "time travel" and "douchiest". Probably gonna check this one out.

Cheating on my I see. :lol

YOU NEVER SAID WE WERE EXCLUSIVE!

I've started watching it. I'll finish watching it today. So far I don't like the way they time cut. I'm not far enough into it to comment on the rest of the movie yet.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on August 22, 2014, 10:38:46 PM
It is very jarring, but you'll see that it's very deliberate. Granted, that won't stop it from being a negative if you don't like that format, but perhaps it'll give some meaning at least.

Black Rainbow has been on my list for a while, I'll definitely have to watch it one night soon. I'm about to watch Cap'n 'Murca Dos with my brohan soon-ish. I've got pretty much no expectations and am honestly not really in the mood for a superhero flick so it's gonna take a lot for this one to catch my interest right now...
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 22, 2014, 10:48:58 PM
It is very jarring, but you'll see that it's very deliberate. Granted, that won't stop it from being a negative if you don't like that format, but perhaps it'll give some meaning at least.

It doesn't bother me that much, it's just not something I'm used to, so it seems a bit odd at first.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Jaffa on August 23, 2014, 12:07:14 AM
Just watched Oculus.  I kind of expected it to be terrible, but it actually wasn't bad. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 23, 2014, 02:54:01 AM
Just finished watching Coherence. It had some great ideas, but overall I didn't like the focus of it. Had they gotten to the last 10 minutes about half way through, and then had to deal with that mindfuck, that would have been more my kind of thing. I didn't enjoy the drama element much. Just my personal preference. Still, I enjoy seeing new takes on ideas, and I'm glad I watched it.

And now for a complete change of pace, I will be watching Mexican Batwoman from 1968, which will no doubt be a cinematic masterpiece! :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on August 23, 2014, 05:10:02 AM
Is there a Youtube clip of this Mexican Batwoman so I can spit out my coffee this morning?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on August 23, 2014, 05:12:51 AM
I will be watching Mexican Batwoman from 1968, which will no doubt be a cinematic masterpiece! :lol
Your choices constantly baffle me.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 23, 2014, 05:46:59 AM
I will be watching Mexican Batwoman from 1968, which will no doubt be a cinematic masterpiece! :lol
Your choices constantly baffle me.

I am fully aware of this. And it pleases me.

Is there a Youtube clip of this Mexican Batwoman so I can spit out my coffee this morning?

Dude, the whole movie is on Youtube! With subtitles. That's where I watched it from.

Movie was solid. Everyone in the movie was terrible at what they do. The police called in Batwoman to help them solve a series of mexican wrestler deaths. It turns out a criminal mastermind was harvesting their pineal glands to create a race of super fish men to conquer the world or something. And Batwoman wore a bikini all the time, except when she was wrestling, in which case it was a much larger stunt double.

Batwoman's greatest plan in the movie was when she realized the bad guys had planted a tracking device on her. Her plan was to keep the tracking device on her to lead the bad guys right to her. And then go to sleep. And not warn the guy who was staying over specifically to watch over her.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on August 23, 2014, 06:24:11 AM
That seems like a Saturday night, with my hunny, drinking a few beers and getting our laugh on! :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on August 23, 2014, 06:38:22 AM
Just checking out the new movie thread, move along.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on August 23, 2014, 03:11:43 PM
I will be watching Mexican Batwoman from 1968, which will no doubt be a cinematic masterpiece! :lol
Your choices constantly baffle me.

I am fully aware of this. And it pleases me.

Is there a Youtube clip of this Mexican Batwoman so I can spit out my coffee this morning?

Dude, the whole movie is on Youtube! With subtitles. That's where I watched it from.

Movie was solid. Everyone in the movie was terrible at what they do. The police called in Batwoman to help them solve a series of mexican wrestler deaths. It turns out a criminal mastermind was harvesting their pineal glands to create a race of super fish men to conquer the world or something. And Batwoman wore a bikini all the time, except when she was wrestling, in which case it was a much larger stunt double.

Batwoman's greatest plan in the movie was when she realized the bad guys had planted a tracking device on her. Her plan was to keep the tracking device on her to lead the bad guys right to her. And then go to sleep. And not warn the guy who was staying over specifically to watch over her.

Oh my god, I need to see this. ESPECIALLY because I was just talking about my Batman luchador mask. I smell a Halloween costume...
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on August 23, 2014, 03:16:43 PM
Oh! That reminded me of Italian Spiderman:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVpJnGCwlMA
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on August 23, 2014, 03:17:10 PM
 :metal

We are talking about going as the Flintstones.  The wifey and I as Fred and Wilma and my bro and his wife as Barney and Betty and my nephew dressed as Bam Bam.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on August 25, 2014, 01:44:47 PM
I caught Bullitt over the weekend for the first time in...well, decades.

That movie is still awesome.  Steve McQueen was fucking badass.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on August 27, 2014, 05:52:09 AM
I caught Bullitt over the weekend for the first time in...well, decades.

That movie is still awesome.  Steve McQueen was fucking badass.

God, it has to have been at least seven or eight years since I last saw that film. I'll have to watch it again sometime soon! :metal

As for your humble narrator, I watched A Clockwork Orange for the first time last night! Incredible film and possibly my new favorite of Kubrick's. :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Scorpion on August 27, 2014, 05:53:06 AM
I saw Lucy yesterday.

... At least I didn't pay for the ticket myself.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on August 27, 2014, 06:07:58 AM
I saw Lucy yesterday.

... At least I didn't pay for the ticket myself.

I thought it was semi-decent. The science behind it was clearly bullshit, but I enjoyed the trippy sequence near the end.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on August 27, 2014, 06:34:24 AM
I saw Lucy yesterday.

... At least I didn't pay for the ticket myself.

I thought it was semi-decent. The science behind it was clearly bullshit, but I enjoyed the trippy sequence near the end.

As soon as I heard  "humans only use 10% of their brains" in the trailer, I automatically dismissed that movie and I refuse to watch it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Scorpion on August 27, 2014, 06:39:58 AM
It wasn't the lackadasial approach to science that bothered me as much as the fact that there was no tension whatsoever. Even from 20% on, Lucy was so extremely powerful that the whole mafia business just lost its appeal entirely, Lucy saying that she would die meant that fact didn't surprise anyone, and while I enjoyed that trippy ending quite a bit, it wasn't really enough to make up for a movie that, for 90% of its runtime didn't have any element of tension whatsoever.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on August 27, 2014, 02:51:25 PM
The only draw for me is that it's directed by Luc Besson.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on August 29, 2014, 03:21:16 PM
On a bit of a Hitchcock binge at the moment. Finally watched North by Northwest and Vertigo for the first time and I've seen Psycho two or three times before. I think Vertigo is probably my favorite of the three films that I've seen.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Obfuscation on August 29, 2014, 07:58:11 PM
On a bit of a Hitchcock binge at the moment. Finally watched North by Northwest and Vertigo for the first time and I've seen Psycho two or three times before. I think Vertigo is probably my favorite of the three films that I've seen.

Of those 3 films, I still need to watch Vertigo but between the other 2, I prefer Psycho.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on August 29, 2014, 08:05:28 PM
I had seen the classics for ages...but recently I saw a few of his lesser known films. 

Long story short...Rope is now my all favorite Hitchcock film.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on August 29, 2014, 11:04:50 PM
So I just watched Oldboy, the original not the remake. Wow, that was... revolting. I loved it. A lot.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on August 29, 2014, 11:15:00 PM
 :tup :tup It's a definite classic.

I wouldn't bother with the new one, I found it a bit mediocre. That's saying a lot too considering I'm halfway homo for Brolin and I am a huge fan of Lee's work. It just wasn't as impactful and it didn't really do anything new; what it did add was mostly meandering and took away from the film than added to it. I think it gets a lot more shit from foaming-at-the-mouth fans than it deserves but there's no doubt that the consensus is that the original reigns. If you're out of movies to watch on a boring day off, check it out; otherwise...you'd be better off with something new. (Although, I must add, I absolutely LOVED Copley in the villain role. Much moreso than his foreign counterpart; he was riveting, sickening and I loved to hate him right until the end. He's the reason why I enjoyed it.)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 29, 2014, 11:22:51 PM
On a bit of a Hitchcock binge at the moment. Finally watched North by Northwest and Vertigo for the first time and I've seen Psycho two or three times before. I think Vertigo is probably my favorite of the three films that I've seen.

Of those 3 films, I still need to watch Vertigo but between the other 2, I prefer Psycho.

Of those 3 films, Vertigo is the only one I've seen. Of the other two, I've only seen various parodies of their iconic scenes. :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Accelerando on August 29, 2014, 11:55:03 PM
Guys, I just came back from seeing Sin City: A Dame To Kill For. It was awful. I was sorely disappointed. It got to the point where I got mad. The great thing about the first movie is that all three stories were intertwined to feel like you were a part of this dark noir universe. There was a sort of a brutal impact. In A Dame To Kill For, you have three stories, and two of them there is no point! Especially the story that influenced the title. The one story I did care for was Jessica Alba's, and I would have been happy just watching 2 hrs of that.

It's big a stinker by Robert Rodriquez and Frank Miller. Considering how classic the first Sin City movie is, this is not worth mentioning in the same breath.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Big Hath on August 30, 2014, 09:49:41 AM
I am also up for watching 2 hours of Jessica Alba.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on August 30, 2014, 08:08:42 PM
I am also up for watching 2 hours of Jessica Alba.

I bet you are.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on August 31, 2014, 03:02:39 AM
Now I watched I Saw the Devil. Wow, it was as awesome as Oldboy! Are Koreans just the masters of revenge flicks or what?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on August 31, 2014, 06:55:08 AM
They really are. There's a few different classics that have come out of Korean cinema. I love it!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bl5150 on August 31, 2014, 07:43:30 AM
Good to see Bill Murray back with some of his typical deadpan , dry humour. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5BVn-eyAxA
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on August 31, 2014, 07:52:14 AM
Now I watched I Saw the Devil. Wow, it was as awesome as Oldboy! Are Koreans just the masters of revenge flicks or what?

I also watched I Saw the Devil about a week ago and it was brilliant. I know Oldboy is part of a vengeance trilogy with two other movies, that are also supposedly really good. It's called The Vengeance Trilogy and the other two movies (apart from Oldboy) that are part of it are Sympathy For Mr. Vengeance and Sympathy For Lady Vengeance. I haven't seen either, but I'm planning to.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on August 31, 2014, 01:18:45 PM
Now I watched I Saw the Devil. Wow, it was as awesome as Oldboy! Are Koreans just the masters of revenge flicks or what?

I also watched I Saw the Devil about a week ago and it was brilliant. I know Oldboy is part of a vengeance trilogy with two other movies, that are also supposedly really good. It's called The Vengeance Trilogy and the other two movies (apart from Oldboy) that are part of it are Sympathy For Mr. Vengeance and Sympathy For Lady Vengeance. I haven't seen either, but I'm planning to.
Yeah I read up on those and plan on viewing them as well along with The Man From Nowhere and The Chaser.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on August 31, 2014, 05:35:53 PM
Anyone seeing Ghostbusters this weekend?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Outcrier on August 31, 2014, 06:58:27 PM
I also watched I Saw the Devil about a week ago and it was brilliant. I know Oldboy is part of a vengeance trilogy with two other movies, that are also supposedly really good. It's called The Vengeance Trilogy and the other two movies (apart from Oldboy) that are part of it are Sympathy For Mr. Vengeance and Sympathy For Lady Vengeance. I haven't seen either, but I'm planning to.

There's A Bittersweet Life from the same year of Lady Vengeance, great revenge flick as well.
Still, the best korean movie i've ever watched was either Oldboy or Memories of Murder.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Obfuscation on August 31, 2014, 09:48:10 PM
Now I watched I Saw the Devil. Wow, it was as awesome as Oldboy! Are Koreans just the masters of revenge flicks or what?

I also watched I Saw the Devil about a week ago and it was brilliant. I know Oldboy is part of a vengeance trilogy with two other movies, that are also supposedly really good. It's called The Vengeance Trilogy and the other two movies (apart from Oldboy) that are part of it are Sympathy For Mr. Vengeance and Sympathy For Lady Vengeance. I haven't seen either, but I'm planning to.
Yeah I read up on those and plan on viewing them as well along with The Man From Nowhere and The Chaser.

I also watched I Saw the Devil about a week ago and it was brilliant. I know Oldboy is part of a vengeance trilogy with two other movies, that are also supposedly really good. It's called The Vengeance Trilogy and the other two movies (apart from Oldboy) that are part of it are Sympathy For Mr. Vengeance and Sympathy For Lady Vengeance. I haven't seen either, but I'm planning to.

There's A Bittersweet Life from the same year of Lady Vengeance, great revenge flick as well.
Still, the best korean movie i've ever watched was either Oldboy or Memories of Murder.

I've seen The Man From Nowhere, A Bittersweet Life, and Memories of Murder and they are all really good movies. I think I would give the edge to Memories of Murder out those 3 but I feel like its interchangeable for me with these 3 movies so just watch them all.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on August 31, 2014, 10:41:20 PM
Good to see Bill Murray back with some of his typical deadpan , dry humour. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5BVn-eyAxA

I just have to say that this...looks...BRILLIANT...
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on September 01, 2014, 03:34:34 AM
Seeing Ghostbusters in theaters was awesome.

Something I never noticed before: Ray and Venkman slap each other throughout the movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on September 01, 2014, 04:25:16 AM
Good to see Bill Murray back with some of his typical deadpan , dry humour. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5BVn-eyAxA
Looks like a prefect movie for him, can't wait!  :metal
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 01, 2014, 05:46:28 AM
Seeing Ghostbusters in theaters was awesome.

Something I never noticed before: Ray and Venkman slap each other throughout the movie.
I didn't get to see it this weekend (no time, other plans).

But I saw it in theaters on its 25th anniversary re-release.

Oh, I also saw it in theaters on original release in 1984.  At a pre-release preview viewing.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on September 01, 2014, 10:41:32 AM
SO OLD WISE!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on September 01, 2014, 10:58:08 AM
I saw the 25th anniversary digitally remastered Back To The Future in the cinema in 2010.

It was like seeing it for the first time and cemented my opinion of it being the greatest movie ever.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on September 01, 2014, 03:05:42 PM
I saw the 25th anniversary digitally remastered Back To The Future in the cinema in 2010.

It was like seeing it for the first time and cemented my opinion of it being the greatest movie ever.

That's bullshit.




You don't like anything.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on September 01, 2014, 03:07:07 PM
I don't like you.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on September 01, 2014, 03:13:26 PM
 :heart :heart :heart :heart
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on September 01, 2014, 03:14:14 PM
I love both of you and I hate both of you. I'd kill both of you for myself. I'd kill myself for both of you.


*sniffs your armpits and tickles your balls*





Yeah that's right. I break up fights by harassing and assaulting you with awkwardness and love. DO SOMETHIN' BOYS. GIVE ME A REASON TO LOVE YOU! DO IT!

P.S. Sony and co. have solidified me not giving a microscopic turd about anything cinema-related Spider-Man. Now I simply await the day when they rape the characters and story enough that even their greed fails to the embarrassment and they give it up. NOT. Cause humanity's greed NEVER fails! RIP Movie-Spider-Man. What a travesty that franchise is, and they did it in two movies.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on September 01, 2014, 03:48:32 PM
I love both of you and I hate both of you. I'd kill both of you for myself. I'd kill myself for both of you.


*sniffs your armpits and tickles your balls*





Yeah that's right. I break up fights by harassing and assaulting you with awkwardness and love. DO SOMETHIN' BOYS. GIVE ME A REASON TO LOVE YOU! DO IT!

P.S. Sony and co. have solidified me not giving a microscopic turd about anything cinema-related Spider-Man. Now I simply await the day when they rape the characters and story enough that even their greed fails to the embarrassment and they give it up. NOT. Cause humanity's greed NEVER fails! RIP Movie-Spider-Man. What a travesty that franchise is, and they did it in two movies.

Jokes on you. I wasn't wearing deodorant.


3 if you count Spider-man 3.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on September 01, 2014, 04:02:31 PM
Well, 3 was almost objectively horrible...but it did effectively kill that part of the franchise. I thought 1 and 2 were almost perfect examples of how comic book movies should be done. With this new reboot, I hated everything about it from the start. I know I'm in the minority on that one for the first movie, but the consensus seems to be that this 2nd movie is pretty bad, but I think it's even worse than that. I think it's quite literally the perfect example of how not to do a comic book movie.

Apart from that, I just hate this new style they've created. There are parts where I love Garfield's Spider-Man but the moments were few and far between. Not to mention that I don't buy Garfield as Parker... That man, he has the blood of a jock. I loved the initial series so much because I thought Maguire was the perfect Parker; completely nerdy, embarrassing but a true brilliant mind in his ways; and subsequently bought his transition to superhero status and eventually loved him (not till 2 though) as Spider-Man. I felt none of that in the reboot. It's just funny to see the exact same mistakes being made by the people that originally showed the world "this is how you do a comic book movie wrong" with SM3 and now with ASM2 they've just beat the horse to a pulp.

I digress. Clearly not a fan of much of anything Sony (or the filmmakers) have done with that side of things. X-Men has been alright (still haven't seen DOFP) but even then, it's potential hasn't been fully tapped into, I don't think. Hopefully that changes with DOFP but I have my reservations. Anyway, it just sucks to know what could be. Even if I don't love Marvel as much as the masses, they've done a fantastic job in portraying the comic book universe gracefully while keeping things fresh. I just don't even wanna imagine the awesomeness of a true Marvel-made Spidey film.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on September 02, 2014, 08:47:46 PM
Just finally saw My Left Foot  :tup :tup

Daniel Day-Lewis fucking rules.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on September 02, 2014, 09:06:38 PM
I finally watched 12 Monkeys and Let the Right One In for the first time today! :metal :hefdaddy Loved both films to death, especially the latter one. One of the absolute best vampire/horror films I have ever watched, if I may say so myself.
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Post by: Tom Bombadil on September 02, 2014, 09:18:46 PM
I love 12 Monkeys. One of my favorites. Wasn't too keen on Left the Right One In. It's just not my type of film.

Just saw Goodfellas for the first time last week. It was pretty fantastic.
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Post by: Mister Gold on September 02, 2014, 09:28:51 PM
I love 12 Monkeys. One of my favorites. Wasn't too keen on Left the Right One In. It's just not my type of film.

Just saw Goodfellas for the first time last week. It was pretty fantastic.

I was very eager to see 12 Monkeys, since Terry Gilliam always seemed like my kind of director, despite my never-clicking-with Brazil.
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Post by: Tom Bombadil on September 02, 2014, 10:47:29 PM
I love 12 Monkeys. One of my favorites. Wasn't too keen on Left the Right One In. It's just not my type of film.

Just saw Goodfellas for the first time last week. It was pretty fantastic.

I was very eager to see 12 Monkeys, since Terry Gilliam always seemed like my kind of director, despite my never-clicking-with Brazil.
I just watched it totally out of the blue one day and thought it was one of the weirdest movies I'd ever seen. Took me til the 2nd view to realize how good it was.
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Post by: Mister Gold on September 02, 2014, 11:07:56 PM
I love 12 Monkeys. One of my favorites. Wasn't too keen on Left the Right One In. It's just not my type of film.

Just saw Goodfellas for the first time last week. It was pretty fantastic.

I was very eager to see 12 Monkeys, since Terry Gilliam always seemed like my kind of director, despite my never-clicking-with Brazil.
I just watched it totally out of the blue one day and thought it was one of the weirdest movies I'd ever seen. Took me til the 2nd view to realize how good it was.

The thing with Brazil is that I can totally understand why people might love it. In fact, on paper, it's a film that I thought for sure I would love. A satire on 1984? Dark, bleak and bizarre visuals? Jonathan Pryce in the leading role? Hell yeah, I'd love that!

A large chunk of my problem with the film lies in the majority of the third act, in which the film either a) completely throws all previous rules of reality out the window to only reach a very mediocre conclusion or b) could have ended at least thirty minutes earlier and it would've had a much more impactful ending. The rest of the film is quite good, but it's such a slow-burner that I felt it needed the right conclusion in order to work. Neither of the two endings really do that for me.
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Post by: KevShmev on September 03, 2014, 09:11:29 AM
I recently saw Some Like It Hot, finally.  Pretty hilarious, and I definitely see why many consider it one of the funniest films ever made.  And getting to see Marilyn Monroe on the big screen is never a bad thing. :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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Post by: Orbert on September 03, 2014, 12:27:56 PM
I saw Some Like it Hot a long time ago, and I remember it being very funny.  But that's all I remember.  Oh yeah, and Marilyn Monroe was super hot, as always.


Ender's Game

I knew that this was based on a great sci-fi series of books that I've never read, and I know that adapting epic science fiction onto the big screen usually sucks, so I was able to enjoy the film for what it was and enjoy the story it told without getting all hung up on how it was told.

In the movie, we get one scene of Ender in school, but obviously he's been in school all his life and dealing with bullies, or at least this one bully, for a while.  So when he "ended" it (ha, I just figured out his name), even though it seemed very sudden and over-the-top in the movie, I accepted that this was a pivotal scene.

In the movie, he's in Battle School for like a week, but again it only seems like that and clearly we're seeing a very condensed version of that part of the story.  It became apparent around this point that there's a lot of story to tell, so we have to move quickly.

Then he's in Command School for like two days, and Harrison Ford has been saying the whole time how amazing and special this guy is, but once again, we'll just have to take his word for it because we've seen three examples of it and he's like 15 now.

But the way he "ends" things, the use of unconventional tactics, the weird "non-formation formation" with Dragon Army, even the mind game and his sister, all foreshadow things that later pay off.  In fact, the whole movie is little more than setup and setup and payoff and payoff.  You could argue that most movies are, but you'd probably be wrong.  Most movies take some time to develop the characters and plot at least a little bit.  Here, they tried to condense a pretty large story into a feature film and it just didn't work.  And it was basically because there was too much to do.  They should have just gone ahead and made it a 2.5 or 3-hour epic sci-fi story.  Given it some breathing room, flesh out the characters and the story better.

I enjoyed the movie anyway.  I liked the story it told, despite telling it so poorly.  I could tell that the adaptation didn't do the book(s) justice, and I've never read the books, but comments on IMDb almost universally agree.  Most people who've never read the books were at least okay with the movie and some really enjoyed it.  Most people who'd read the book didn't like the movie.  There are exceptions on both sides, of course.
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Post by: TioJorge on September 04, 2014, 01:22:47 AM
Watched Godzilla for the second time. Fockin' perfect Godzilla flick, and better than what I'd originally imagined. I loved the back and forth between the humans and monsters and that ending sequence made up for just showing the monsters in bits and pieces throughout. I hope the next movie will focus a little bit more though on the aspect of the monsters. KING GHIDORAH (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRn9BRo4Igw&t=0m19s) FTW. God I hope they include him even if its not the next one. They'd fuck the Earth up SO BADLY!!
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Post by: WDADU on September 04, 2014, 01:30:05 AM
Saw Ghostbusters in theatre ofver the weekend. It's one of my favourite films of all-time, so I had to see it. Definitely one of the best theatre experiences I've had. Like watching the movie for the first time.
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Post by: Accelerando on September 04, 2014, 02:40:53 AM
Watched Godzilla for the second time. Fockin' perfect Godzilla flick, and better than what I'd originally imagined. I loved the back and forth between the humans and monsters and that ending sequence made up for just showing the monsters in bits and pieces throughout. I hope the next movie will focus a little bit more though on the aspect of the monsters. KING GHIDORAH (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRn9BRo4Igw&t=0m19s) FTW. God I hope they include him even if its not the next one. They'd fuck the Earth up SO BADLY!!

I loved the slow burn to the reveal of Godzilla. Other than the original 1954 film, It actually reminded me a bit of Jaws, where you were made to wait a bit, building a genuine sense of tension.

HOW BOUT THAT FINAL KILL  :metal

I would love a DESTROY ALL MONSTERS film, but maybe it's too early in this franchise for that 
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 05, 2014, 08:23:18 PM
Just finished The World's End.

lol
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Post by: Zantera on September 06, 2014, 01:48:12 AM
I saw the new Jon Favreau movie, Chef. It was really nice. I wasn't blown away or anything, but it was a nice feel good movie, slightly predictable but gave you a warm little feeling in your heart. I suggest you eat something when you watch it though, otherwise it will have you running to the kitchen.  ;)
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Post by: jammindude on September 06, 2014, 09:43:54 AM
I saw the new Jon Favreau movie, Chef. It was really nice. I wasn't blown away or anything, but it was a nice feel good movie, slightly predictable but gave you a warm little feeling in your heart. I suggest you eat something when you watch it though, otherwise it will have you running to the kitchen.  ;)

I'll never look at corn starch the same way ever again.  :lol
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 06, 2014, 06:58:01 PM
Watched Bears with the family. Very cute, and very entertaining.
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Post by: Zantera on September 06, 2014, 07:04:10 PM
Movie recommendation time! Don't think I have seen this movie mentioned here, but I just saw it, really liked it and I think some of you might like it as well.

So the movie I'm talking about is called Dark City, and it's a 1998 neo-noir science fiction film, directed by Alex Proyas (who made The Crow) and is also co-written by David Goyer (who co-wrote the Nolan Batman-movies). The main character is played by a guy I didn't quite know before, Rufus Sewell, but he is surrounded by a couple of familiar faces in Jennifer Connelly, William Hurt and Kiefer Sutherland.

It's a very dark movie, and I would say it shares a lot of similarities with The Matrix, in fact the cinematography is very similar, and both movies were shot using some of the same sets (The Matrix came out a year later) and they both deal with similar topics, like what is real/what is just an illusion and so on. The story in itself sounds simplistic and like it has been done a million times before, but in the context of the movie it works. The main character wakes up with no memory in a hotel room with a dead prostitute. He's being chased by shadowy men in a city that's always dark and never has any daylight, while he's trying to figure out who he is and what's happening.

I would say it's a very bizarre and mindfuck kind of movie, but we're not talking David Lynch levels of mindfuck. Again, I think comparing it to The Matrix is fair. Both are easy to "understand", but you get a lot of levels of ideas/topics that you can discuss or think about afterwards, a lot to analyze. Christopher Nolan even said Inception was partly influenced by it, it has a 7.8 on IMDB and Roger Ebert named it his favorite movie of 1998 when it came out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_City_%281998_film%29
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118929/

Maybe some of you have already seen it or something, but if not, I highly recommend it. It was quite fascinating and pulled me in right away.
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Post by: bout to crash on September 06, 2014, 08:01:17 PM
Dark City is awesome! Saw it a couple years ago for the first time.

Bout to watch Bottle Rocket, another "oldie" that I haven't gotten around to yet.
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Post by: King Postwhore on September 06, 2014, 08:18:17 PM
Dark City is awesome.  There is something about Rufus Sewell that even if he's good or bad, he creeps you the fuck out.  I like a ton of characters he'd played.
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Post by: Orbert on September 06, 2014, 09:07:08 PM
Another thumbs up for Dark City.  Great movie.  Lots to think about.
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Post by: bout to crash on September 06, 2014, 10:01:53 PM
Bottle Rocket was a lot of fun. It was interesting to see how Wes Anderson and those Wilson boys started out. Wes's style has definitely changed a bit over the years but not his ability to create awesomely weird characters. Even if they're total losers and/or assholes, you can't help but adore them. Owen Wilson can be a little much for me sometimes, but this is a reminder of how truly charming and ridiculous he can be.
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Post by: Mister Gold on September 07, 2014, 10:07:12 AM
This may sound blasphemous, but I finally watched Taxi Driver for the first time last night. Incredible movie. :hefdaddy
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Post by: BlackInk on September 07, 2014, 03:42:39 PM
Saw How to Train Your Dragon 2. Great movie, some of the most amazing animation I've seen.

Also caught the Rover. Guy Pierce was really awesome, and even Robert Pattinson did a great job. Not sure about whether I liked the ending though, I'll have to sleep on it. (and by that I mean the very ending, I loved the "climax" parts before that)
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Post by: Kotowboy on September 07, 2014, 03:45:26 PM
This may sound blasphemous, but I finally watched Taxi Driver for the first time last night. Incredible movie. :hefdaddy


Meh. I've never seen it. I try to make a point of not seeing "classic" movies. Because if you don't enjoy it - people act like there's something wrong with you instead of accepting that you didn't enjoy it.
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Post by: TioJorge on September 07, 2014, 03:54:14 PM
That...I think, is perhaps the most inane reason in the omniverse to not see a movie.  :lol That makes zero sense to me but hey, to each their own; that's a whole other level of shit giving I could never achieve.

On that same token, I watched Captain America 2 the other night with some friends and was the only one (in the world, apparently) who thought it was disgustingly predictable, had pretty flat characters, and was until the ending sequence, kind of boring. Action packed, but the action itself was boring to me; I was never all that invested in Captain America, and haven't really liked him as a character (SURPRISE, CAUSE I'M SO PATRIOTIC) but I thought I'd like this one because of The Winter Soldier. Alas, he was a drama queen. Just about the only aspect that I really did like was Robert Redford and I'm completely biased on that front because he was my first favorite actor growing up and is still one of my favorites. I just didn't like it nearly as much as any other Marvel movie; I didn't think it was a bad movie per se but for what I had heard and was expecting given the Phase 2 giddiness...I was disappointed and yawning when it ended.
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Post by: Kotowboy on September 07, 2014, 04:13:37 PM
Let me see a movie because I want to see it. Because I saw the trailer and it intrigued me. Because I like the actor or the director involved.

NOT because 10 film critics all said it was amazing. That's not gonna sway me one fucking iota.

I've seen plenty of " FILMS YOU MUST SEE BEFORE YOU FUCKING DIE " that i've absolutely HATED...
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Post by: TioJorge on September 07, 2014, 04:37:29 PM
Ahhh, I gotcha. I was of the mind that you'd purposefully not see a movie simply because you'd get shit for it if you disagree with the masses, even if you were interested in it. I'd still personally say you're doing yourself a disservice since you'll never really know until you see it, but I suppose if the material covered/general topic of the movie isn't interesting to you, it doesn't matter whether it's universally praised or not. I know how that is, I still haven't seen Black Hawk Down simply because not only am I tired as hell of war movies but my entire male (and one female) family is either Army or Marine (or ex-) and I've heard plenty of eyewitness accounts and actual stories without Hollywood bullshit thrown in to know the movie would only annoy me (again, a bit of a disservice because maybe I'd love it because I've heard so much; doubtful but maybe). The hundreds of glowing, amazing reviews didn't do jack to sway me. So in that light I concur!  :laugh: :tup

P.S. Despite the fact that I couldn't care less about post count, this is the first time I've actually noticed I lost some because I recently hit 5000. Innnnteresting *cries in corner*.
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Post by: Zantera on September 07, 2014, 05:01:56 PM
Shouldn't the fact that a lot of other people loved it give you some more interest in the movie though? There has been several times for me where I wasn't too interested or had any plans on watching a film, but after hearing great feedback I changed my mind, and ended up really liking it. Sometimes the best movies are the ones where you have no interest in it beforehand, but it manages to suck you in anyways.

With that said, there are still certain types of movies I struggle with. 3 hour dramas is a good example. Unless the topic/setting is extremely appealing, or it stars several favorite actors of mine, it's not just something I can sit down and watch. I think a movie like Lincoln for example, is a movie I will never watch. Sadly, many movies with Daniel Day Lewis falls under that category. The little I have seen from him, he is brilliant no doubt. But most of his movies (at least the most recent ones) are 2 ½ - 3 hour drama films in a setting that I don't necessarily find appealing. Now, I could probably force myself through 3 hours and end up loving it, but with many movies I need that initial spark that gets me pumped to watch it.
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Post by: King Postwhore on September 07, 2014, 05:09:49 PM
I know this isn't always true but it's always been a good guideline for movies.

If a lot of movie goers and critics like it----It's probably good.

If the is a mixed bag on a movie from both fans and critics --- I still will see it to make my own judgement.

If it's panned buy both -- I probably won't like it.
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Post by: Kotowboy on September 07, 2014, 05:12:29 PM
But as we've discussed on this board at length - critics and film fans all hate Avatar - yet Chino and I loved it immensely.

There's no such thing as a "wrong" opinion.

Of course a film getting a shit ton of praise will pique my interest but If I then hate that movie - I'll have no problem saying so.

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Post by: King Postwhore on September 07, 2014, 05:14:53 PM
I don't think that all critics and fan's hated Avatar.  The internet did. :lol

It was good but not up to the standards that James Cameron set.
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Post by: Kotowboy on September 07, 2014, 05:17:38 PM
My point is that just because something is hated/loved does not mean i'll automatically hate/love it.
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Post by: TioJorge on September 07, 2014, 05:19:48 PM
Shouldn't the fact that a lot of other people loved it give you some more interest in the movie though? There has been several times for me where I wasn't too interested or had any plans on watching a film, but after hearing great feedback I changed my mind, and ended up really liking it. Sometimes the best movies are the ones where you have no interest in it beforehand, but it manages to suck you in anyways.

With that said, there are still certain types of movies I struggle with. 3 hour dramas is a good example. Unless the topic/setting is extremely appealing, or it stars several favorite actors of mine, it's not just something I can sit down and watch. I think a movie like Lincoln for example, is a movie I will never watch. Sadly, many movies with Daniel Day Lewis falls under that category. The little I have seen from him, he is brilliant no doubt. But most of his movies (at least the most recent ones) are 2 ½ - 3 hour drama films in a setting that I don't necessarily find appealing. Now, I could probably force myself through 3 hours and end up loving it, but with many movies I need that initial spark that gets me pumped to watch it.

I mean, if I have a vested interest in the general subject of the movie, if the premise intrigues me then sure, good reviews will definitely spur that interest further. But with a movie like Black Hawk Down, for me, everyone telling me to watch it and how amazing it is...is just annoying; I've got no motivation to watch it and no interest in the material, even if it is an amazing movie, unless I'm locked in a room with the film then I'm not gonna watch it even if it is the most renowned war movie. Especially with the techno-domination (new form of porn) these days, I have so many movies/shows to watch that I'm interested in (which is really the main bullet point for me).

I do agree on the topic of going into a movie with no interest or knowledge whatsoever and how awesome it is when you end up loving it; but that, for me at least, is extremely rare (especially with the aforementioned technology saturation) and unrealistic when speaking of movies in general. But yeah that happened to me with Coherence and it's now one of my favorite movies of all the timelines. It'd also more than likely have a horrible success/fail ratio for me considering my opinions and likes when it comes to film; I'm pretty sure I'd hate the majority and mostly waste my time.  :lol
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Post by: King Postwhore on September 07, 2014, 05:21:00 PM
I think that's where the middle ground I posted about.  Opinions are always so strong but truly bad movies are just bad and the average ones are the ones you and I are talking about.  We form out own opinion on them.  I agree with you.

Hey!  Sometimes I want to see dumb. brainless movies that people shit on because I am just in the mood for it at that time.
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Post by: TioJorge on September 07, 2014, 05:25:52 PM
Exactlys.  :tup

Hellz yes to that last sentiment, I wouldn't have my immense love for The Room if it weren't for the 100% negative reviews.






(I almost immediately regretted even mentioning that movie for fear of starting a fire)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on September 07, 2014, 05:28:15 PM
Sometimes I want to see dumb. brainless movies that people shit on because I am just in the mood for it at that time.

My brother and I went to see the Total Recall remake, Die Hard 5 and Robocop 2014 expecting them to be shitty and make fun of them.

We were right about TR and DH5 but Robocop 2014 was a lot of fun.
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Post by: Zantera on September 07, 2014, 05:31:50 PM
Avatar hated? It has 7.9 on IMDB. 83 on metacritic and rotten tomatoes. Avatar is just one of those movies where the flaws are very clear and easy to pick apart, and that's why a lot of people dissect it on the internet and the reason we've gotten so many memes. I believe it won 3 academy awards and was nominated for nine, so overall the response/reception was really good. It's the highest grossing movie of all time, and that should say something. I know that a popular movie isn't necessarily a good movie, you have the Transformers-franchise to prove that, but Avatar was straight out of the blue, something new James Cameron created, so it being so popular says a lot about how well it was received. With Transformers, you have an established franchise and people who are fans of the franchise will watch those movies no matter what. With Avatar they kept coming back.

But Avatar aside, I think King brings up a great point. A movie that's universally loved is probably a good movie, a movie that's universally panned is probably not a good movie. These are of course subjective, but it's guide lines you can start from. I don't always agree with the popular opinion, but I'd much rather see a universally loved movie with 8.5 on IMDB than a panned movie with a 4.5. I think odds are I will enjoy the first one, even if it's not carved in stone. Movies with mixed reception is where it gets trickier. They might really appeal to you if you are into the subject matter, but might bore you to death otherwise.
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Post by: King Postwhore on September 07, 2014, 05:32:24 PM
I look at National Treasure 1 & 2 as dumb fun.  Funny though, I've cut out that in going to the movies and only when I watch on HBO for example.  To expensive these days to blob good money on crappy films.
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Post by: Kotowboy on September 07, 2014, 05:38:03 PM
I think people online magnify flaws as huge problems which cannot be overlooked.

When I go to the cinema - It costs about £10 - £15 a time - so I want to be entertained first and foremost.

If a film is exciting and enjoyable then I can overlook the flaws.

A lot of "internet critics" are the other way around - if a film has a "plot hole!!!!" then they can't enjoy it at all.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on September 07, 2014, 05:38:47 PM
This may sound blasphemous, but I finally watched Taxi Driver for the first time last night. Incredible movie. :hefdaddy


Meh. I've never seen it. I try to make a point of not seeing "classic" movies. Because if you don't enjoy it - people act like there's something wrong with you instead of accepting that you didn't enjoy it.

See, that's fine and all, but I think it's a disservice to yourself to deliberately not watch a movie that happens to have a reputation for being a 'classic.' Because yeah, inevitably, we all have our own opinions. I for example think that Brazil is a complete mess because of its pointless endings, 2001: A Space Odyssey is a bunch of awesome philosophical short films that are sewn together but don't quite fit together and Citizen Kane is one of the most insanely overrated movies ever made and is relatively simple in comparison to quite a few other more masterful cinematic works.

But the important thing is that I don't say "Brazil sucks ass" or the like, I actually criticize the film in question. I can recognize its positive features, but also call it out on its weaknesses too. So if someone asks me, "How can you not like this film," I can actually give them a legitimate answer.
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Post by: Kotowboy on September 07, 2014, 05:39:56 PM
" How have you not seen [insert movie here] ??!!! "

" Because I haven't got time to watch every movie in existence ? "

 :biggrin:
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Post by: masterthes on September 07, 2014, 05:40:57 PM
Personally never saw the first National Treasure as dumb fun. I think it's a legitimately good movie. The second one, yes
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on September 07, 2014, 05:42:46 PM
I know that hype can kill a lot of movies because it certainly has for me, but I'd never NOT see something people considered classic just because I might disagree with that opinion. There are classics I've never seen simply because the topics don't interest me, but there are also a lot of them that sound cool to me, regardless of how other people feel about them, so I'll eventually see them. If I end up not liking them, whatever. But I also may end up loving them.
I guess the bottom line is I don't feel like I HAVE to see anything that's considered a classic, but I just thinking "making a point" to not see certain films because they're considered classics is kind of lame.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on September 07, 2014, 05:43:28 PM
" How have you not seen [insert movie here] ??!!! "

" Because I haven't got time to watch every movie in existence ? "

 :biggrin:

Well of course- it drives me crazy when people say that, too. But that's not the same as saying you've made a point not to watch it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on September 07, 2014, 05:45:35 PM
The thing with movies is that your first impression isn't always necessarily what sticks around. I've gone out of cinemas and felt happy with the movie, but after thinking more about it, realizing that maybe it wasn't so good. Enjoyment and having a good time is the most important with cinema, and some movies trick you. In the same way I've seen movies, been happy at first but then grown to dislike a movie more, I've also seen movies that I didn't love initially, but after thinking a lot about them, I re-watched them and ended up liking them.

Prometheus is a good example of this for me. I walked out of the cinema happy after seeing that movie. Visually it was stunning, a great "spectacle" kind of movie, and while it wasn't Alien or Aliens, I was happy with the money I spent. After a couple of days of thinking about the movie and reading some points other people pointed out, I realized that it wasn't as good as I initially thought. There's a lot of stuff you can miss on a first viewing. 
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Post by: bout to crash on September 07, 2014, 06:01:37 PM
Definitely agree. Sometimes I just think more about the movie and an hour after seeing it I'm like "Wait! That was fucking stupid!"  :lol... or sometimes somebody will offer a different perspective on something I didn't like, which causes me to change my opinion a bit. Things take time to process, so yeah, that first reaction doesn't always stick.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on September 07, 2014, 06:45:13 PM
There are quite a few classic movies that I have not seen.   But if I see them as being "culturally significant" then I will usually try to watch it just so I can gain a better understanding of the references in other parts of pop culture. 

Apocalypse Now is a good example.   I avoided it for a long time.   I saw it once.  I can see *why* it moved people so much, and I can see why it is culturally significant.   But for me, it was simply too gruesome and disturbing for repeated viewings.     It is not something I would choose to be entertained by.    That being said, I'm glad I saw it at least once because it made *A LOT* of other things make sense. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Scorpion on September 09, 2014, 05:51:18 PM
Saw Guardians of the Galaxy. I liked it. Nothing ground-breaking, but good entertainment.

Question: which of the six Infinity Gems was that supposed to be? The Tesseract was Space, the Aether was Power, which one was the Orb?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Outcrier on September 09, 2014, 06:45:38 PM
So, anyone here saw Boyhood?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Lucien on September 09, 2014, 09:14:52 PM
Saw Guardians of the Galaxy. I liked it. Nothing ground-breaking, but good entertainment.

Question: which of the six Infinity Gems was that supposed to be? The Tesseract was Space, the Aether was Power, which one was the Orb?

I thought the Aether was Destruction (if destruction was one of them) and the new stone (which was inside the orb) was the Power Gem
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on September 10, 2014, 12:54:29 AM
So, anyone here saw Boyhood?

No, but hope to soon!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on September 10, 2014, 02:18:52 AM
So, anyone here saw Boyhood?

No, but hope to soon!

Red Letter Media didn't like it at all.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Scorpion on September 10, 2014, 03:30:50 AM
Saw Guardians of the Galaxy. I liked it. Nothing ground-breaking, but good entertainment.

Question: which of the six Infinity Gems was that supposed to be? The Tesseract was Space, the Aether was Power, which one was the Orb?

I thought the Aether was Destruction (if destruction was one of them) and the new stone (which was inside the orb) was the Power Gem

Naw, the six stones are Soul, Place, Time, Reality, Power and Mind. And I think I remember reading that the Aether was supposed to be Power, though I might be misremembering things.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 10, 2014, 08:40:43 AM
I don't remember, but maybe Reality?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on September 10, 2014, 09:24:12 AM
The one in Guardians was definetely power.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Scorpion on September 10, 2014, 11:24:10 AM
It would work, but then what was the Aether?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 10, 2014, 12:35:56 PM
It would work, but then what was the Aether?
Just a MacGuffin of some sort.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on September 10, 2014, 02:40:03 PM
Reality maybe? I don't remember. And I think it was stated in the movie that it was an infinity stone, and not just a random 'MacGuffin'.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Lucien on September 10, 2014, 05:07:37 PM
Reality maybe? I don't remember. And I think it was stated in the movie that it was an infinity stone, and not just a random 'MacGuffin'.

Yes, the Aether was definitely an Infinity Stone.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: ozzy554 on September 10, 2014, 06:18:20 PM
R.I.P Richard Kiel
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 11, 2014, 06:51:30 AM
Reality maybe? I don't remember. And I think it was stated in the movie that it was an infinity stone, and not just a random 'MacGuffin'.
They are all MacGuffins.

I'm not downplaying them in any way.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on September 11, 2014, 09:25:00 AM
Reality maybe? I don't remember. And I think it was stated in the movie that it was an infinity stone, and not just a random 'MacGuffin'.
They are all MacGuffins.

Oh absolutely, I just meant that it's not just a random one with no further importance.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Lucien on September 11, 2014, 11:21:12 AM
Reality maybe? I don't remember. And I think it was stated in the movie that it was an infinity stone, and not just a random 'MacGuffin'.
They are all MacGuffins.

Oh absolutely, I just meant that it's not just a random one with no further importance.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on September 13, 2014, 03:10:27 PM
So the "really good book you did not enjoy" thread got me thinking I should post this.

I watched Tarkovsky's Solaris the other day and I can't say I enjoyed it at all save for a few parts. There are some beautiful shots (especially in the beginning) and it has its moments (I thought the ending was pretty awesome), but the movie as a whole just didn't interest me in the slightest. I felt like I was watching something great but just wasn't getting anything out of it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on September 13, 2014, 03:54:48 PM
Nice idea. I would have to think a bit, but one that often comes up is Watchmen. I know a lot of people who loved it, some who even holds it as one of the best comic book movies ever made. To me, it was just pretty boring. I can see the appeal, but those 3 hours felt like 15 hours. It wasn't AS bad as Sucker Punch, but almost.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on September 13, 2014, 04:17:10 PM
The last " Movie You Must See " i watched was " Y Tu Mama Tambien ".


It was dog shit.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on September 13, 2014, 05:03:43 PM
Aww, I loved that one! But I'm also in love with Gael Garcia Bernal.

Nice idea. I would have to think a bit, but one that often comes up is Watchmen. I know a lot of people who loved it, some who even holds it as one of the best comic book movies ever made. To me, it was just pretty boring. I can see the appeal, but those 3 hours felt like 15 hours. It wasn't AS bad as Sucker Punch, but almost.

I mostly agree. I LOVED the comic and the movie was meh. I liked some things about it, but meh. And I'll never forgive them for the "Hallelujah" sex scene :puke:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on September 13, 2014, 05:28:57 PM
NEW POLL !!

Spaceballs VS Galaxy Quest !
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 13, 2014, 05:32:23 PM
NEW POLL !!

Spaceballs VS Galaxy Quest !

Galaxy Quest by miles! I couldn't even make it through Spaceballs. Maybe that kind of surface level stupid parody was funny back then, but by today's standards it's painfully unfunny. *ducks*
And also, I'll take the Star Trek parody over the Star Wars one. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on September 13, 2014, 05:35:53 PM
I agree !  :eek

I loved Spaceballs when I was younger but nowadays it's extremely juvenile. I don't mind Mel Brooks but Spaceballs has just aged badly and some of the jokes

are just far too on the nose.

Galaxy Quest is an hilarious homage to Star Trek which actually holds the source material in high regard. I see Tim Allen's character as being both Kirk & Shatner in

the same way as Zapp Brannigan is.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Lucien on September 13, 2014, 10:54:20 PM
So today I saw Blade Runner.


I really liked it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Obfuscation on September 14, 2014, 12:39:03 AM
So today I saw Blade Runner.


I really liked it.

I need to watch it again cause the first time I watched it, didn't really do much for me.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 14, 2014, 02:52:36 AM
I didn't really like Blade Runner. I loved the premise, and the whole feel of the movie, but for me it fell far short of meeting its potential and creating a good story out of the setup.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Silver Tears on September 14, 2014, 03:49:25 AM
Aww, I loved that one! But I'm also in love with Gael Garcia Bernal.


Same, I can't help but like any film that he's in  :heart
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 14, 2014, 04:50:56 AM
I wouldn't really compare Spaceballs to Galaxy Quest, although I enjoy both very much.

But if I had to pick which one was better, I would say Spaceballs.  Every day of the week, and twice on Sunday.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on September 14, 2014, 06:53:25 AM
They're completely different types of satire.  Spaceballs is lampooning everything, intentionally making everything seem ridiculous.  You have to know the source material to even understand any of the jokes or what's going on.  Galaxy Quest presents itself as a "serious" movie, and could almost stand on its own, but familiarity with the source material gives you an extra level of appreciation, as it's a more subtle form of satire.  I like them both, and own copies of each.  I used to prefer Spaceballs and found Galaxy Quest just silly; at some point, they completely switched places on me.  Now I find Galaxy Quest to have the more enduring replay value, and the over-the-top, joke-per-minute style of Spaceballs gets tedious.  But it depends on my mood, and obviously everyone's taste is different.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on September 14, 2014, 05:20:56 PM
Aww, I loved that one! But I'm also in love with Gael Garcia Bernal.


Same, I can't help but like any film that he's in  :heart

Yeah, he's one of the few people I'll see just about anything for, though I haven't seen his last few. Last one I think was Tambien la lluvia/Even the Rain a few years back. That was great.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on September 18, 2014, 01:36:35 AM
New posters:

(https://i.imgur.com/EFNLArU.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/KuN7a6b.jpg)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on September 18, 2014, 04:21:17 AM
November 7 = Kotowboy is 36.

Might have to IMAX the crap out of this.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on September 18, 2014, 08:29:11 AM
Yeah, finally saw a trailer for that at the drive-in last week and it looks sweet!

Last week at the drive-in we watched Dolphin Tale 2 (lol), Into the Storm (eh.. bad acting/writing but the storm/action scenes were pretty cool) and Guardians of the Galaxy (again)  :metal

They charge $8 for three movies, so it's totally worth it and even if the movies are shite it's a blast- you get to hang in your own car, snack on whatever, talk, make fun of the movies, etc. I'm glad I got to go before the end of the season.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on September 18, 2014, 09:10:06 AM
I love going to the drive in. There is one in CT that has different specials every night of the week. Tuesdays it's $10 for as many people as you can fit in your car  :lol, and I think on Wednesday you get 3 movies for $10. I like it because you can bring a cooler full of beer and lawn chairs.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on September 18, 2014, 11:30:03 AM
Drive-ins are awesome!  We went to one while on vacation, and they broadcast the soundtrack over FM so you could tune it in on your car radio and not use the horrible speakers you stick in your window.  I'd never seen that setup before, but it makes sense and I'm guessing it's the way they all do it nowadays, or at least the good places.

Years ago, Cheech and Chong's stoner movie "Up In Smoke" was playing at the drive-in, and this one friend from work asked me if I wanted to go see it with him.  Sure, sounded fun.  We sat and smoked and watched the movie, and whatever the other movie was (I don't even remember) and it was pretty cool.  This was way before home video, so watching a movie on the big screen while getting non-sober in your car was about as good as it gets.  We ended up going pretty much every weekend to smoke up and watch whatever movie was playing at the drive-in.

Eventually, he got fired over something stupid, and people were asking me how I felt about it, if I was okay, etc.  It was kinda weird, the way they were asking.  Some people said "Weren't you guys... um... ?"  Turns out he had a huge crush on me, but was too shy to make any kind of move, but a lot of people thought we were dating.  I had no idea.  I just thought we were stoner buddies.  Apparently I'd "friend-zoned" him.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on September 18, 2014, 12:09:55 PM
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/Z9OGuQyrfHAE8/200.gif)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 18, 2014, 01:44:26 PM
Drive-ins are awesome!  We went to one while on vacation, and they broadcast the soundtrack over FM so you could tune it in on your car radio and not use the horrible speakers you stick in your window.  I'd never seen that setup before, but it makes sense and I'm guessing it's the way they all do it nowadays, or at least the good places.

Years ago, Cheech and Chong's stoner movie "Up In Smoke" was playing at the drive-in, and this one friend from work asked me if I wanted to go see it with him.  Sure, sounded fun.  We sat and smoked and watched the movie, and whatever the other movie was (I don't even remember) and it was pretty cool.  This was way before home video, so watching a movie on the big screen while getting non-sober in your car was about as good as it gets.  We ended up going pretty much every weekend to smoke up and watch whatever movie was playing at the drive-in.

Eventually, he got fired over something stupid, and people were asking me how I felt about it, if I was okay, etc.  It was kinda weird, the way they were asking.  Some people said "Weren't you guys... um... ?"  Turns out he had a huge crush on me, but was too shy to make any kind of move, but a lot of people thought we were dating.  I had no idea.  I just thought we were stoner buddies.  Apparently I'd "friend-zoned" him.
Holy shit   :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on September 18, 2014, 02:00:32 PM
 :rollin That is hilarious, adorable and sad all at once.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on September 18, 2014, 02:45:03 PM
It is kind of sad.  And what's weird is that I can see it, from his point of view and also the others at work.  We did go out every weekend, and people knew it.  He'd mention what movie was playing out at the drive-in, and ask if we were "on" for this weekend, and I'd say "Yes" without thinking any more about it, and people heard us.  I didn't have a girlfriend at the time (or a boyfriend for that matter) and I guess everyone knew he was gay, but I honestly never even thought about it.  All those times we went out, he always paid for the tickets and popcorn and stuff, shared his smoke with me, I just figured he was being generous and a good friend.  He seemed to have money, and I was broke all the time (I spent all my money on albums).  I guess he was just waiting for some kind of sign from me, and of course there never was one.  Then he got fired, and I never saw the guy again.  Actually, he did drop in once, weeks or maybe months later, just to say "Hi" and stuff like that.  By then, I knew, and it was weird.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 18, 2014, 02:48:48 PM
You are the most amazing person in these here forums.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on September 18, 2014, 04:11:31 PM
Nah, I'm just really old.  When you've been around as long as I have, you've done many things, seen many things, that others may not have.  Thanks, though.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on September 18, 2014, 05:08:31 PM
Aw man, that is a sad and interesting story! Poor guy. I could see why you didn't pick up on it if he never made a move, but it must've looked gay to everyone else  :lol
Also, awesome that you saw Up in Smoke at the drive-in!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on September 18, 2014, 05:49:37 PM
We made it kind of a thing, every time they lit up on screen, we did too.  (That's why I can't remember what the second movie was.  I can barely remember the first one.)  I've seen it enough times that I know it pretty much by heart anyway, but that whole part of my life is pretty much a blur.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 19, 2014, 06:07:34 AM
Then maybe the guy DID make a move.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on September 19, 2014, 06:33:01 AM
 :omg:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on September 19, 2014, 08:58:03 AM
:dangerwillrobinson:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 19, 2014, 09:52:37 AM
Orbert scores so much, he doesn't even remember them all.   :metal
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on September 19, 2014, 11:32:29 AM
Orbert scores so much, he doesn't even remember them all.   :metal


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-K0eyooQhY
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 19, 2014, 08:11:59 PM
Watched Monsters University tonight.  That was fun.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on September 20, 2014, 05:57:17 PM
Trailer for the new Mad Max

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akX3Is3qBpw

As a fan of the originals, I am very excited
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on September 21, 2014, 01:52:37 AM
Edge of Tomorrow was really great.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on September 21, 2014, 07:05:56 AM
Yes! I forgot to comment the other night but I enjoyed it a lot more than I expected, and while the ending was pretty obvious, I didn't dislike it as much as most seem to. It was a great action flick with a decent exposition of the time traveling genre with some twists. Awesome, funny, exciting...can't ask for much more in a Cruise flick.

But for anyone wanting more and doesn't mind comics, the manga 'All You Need Is Kill' is in my opinion infinitely better in story and action; but of course it's not as flashy as a movie. Still, if you liked the movie enough, the manga will more than satiate you; it's got some amazing scenes.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on September 21, 2014, 09:32:47 PM
I just finally saw Kick-Ass. Oh man.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on September 22, 2014, 07:06:27 AM
I just finally saw Kick-Ass. Oh man.

That movie was soooo good. I haven't seen the sequel yet.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on September 22, 2014, 08:30:31 AM
It was recommended that I not see the sequel by the all-knowing video store guy. But yeah, loved it. It was sort of... meaner than I expected. That girl was such a hilarious badass, and Cage was ridiculous. I actually had to go back and watch his last scene with subtitles because I had no idea what he was screaming  :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 22, 2014, 08:58:02 AM
I really enjoyed that film as well.

My family did not.

lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on September 22, 2014, 09:13:27 AM
People always hate on the second one, but I liked it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: masterthes on September 22, 2014, 09:58:51 AM
2nd is good, I'd say go see it
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on September 22, 2014, 10:12:55 AM
People always hate on the second one, but I liked it.

The Lost World: Jurassic Park
The Spy Who Shagged Me
Honey I Blew Up the Kid
Toy Story 2
Home Alone 2
Men in Black 2
Short Circuit 2
Avatar 2 (probably)

Were all as good, if not not better than the first.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Lucien on September 22, 2014, 10:19:36 AM
So one of my online friends that runs a chat server was given a suggestion by another friend that we should watch "Bad Grandpa" in the movie room we have set up.

We didn't get past 20 minutes before the rest of us decided it was complete shit  :lol So we turned it off.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on September 22, 2014, 10:38:43 AM
Bad Grandpa was fantastic.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: masterthes on September 22, 2014, 11:15:06 AM
People always hate on the second one, but I liked it.

The Lost World: Jurassic Park Hell no
The Spy Who Shagged Me Oh yes
Honey I Blew Up the Kid No
Toy Story 2 Their about equal
Home Alone 2 Almost
Men in Black 2 Pretty much crap
Short Circuit 2 Ok, yeah
Avatar 2 (probably)

Were all as good, if not not better than the first.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on September 22, 2014, 11:22:48 AM
The Lost World is my favorite Jurassic Park movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 22, 2014, 01:08:29 PM
People always hate on the second one, but I liked it.

The Lost World: Jurassic Park
The Spy Who Shagged Me
Honey I Blew Up the Kid
Toy Story 2
Home Alone 2
Men in Black 2
Short Circuit 2
Avatar 2 (probably)

Were all as good, if not not better than the first.
Not really. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on September 22, 2014, 01:30:08 PM
So one of my online friends that runs a chat server was given a suggestion by another friend that we should watch "Bad Grandpa" in the movie room we have set up.

We didn't get past 20 minutes before the rest of us decided it was complete shit  :lol So we turned it off.

Bad Grandpa was weird. It was ostensibly a hidden camera film but it had a narrative. :/
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on September 22, 2014, 01:38:08 PM
Can I take this moment to say that I absolutely LOVE My Cousin Vinny?

It's one of those perfect examples of a fairly straightforward storyline that is elevated to a whole new level of "great" by every single performance by every single actor/actress in the movie.   

Rewatchablility 10/10
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on September 22, 2014, 01:52:54 PM
If I could have sex with any movie character, it would without question be Mona Lisa Vito.

Great movie too.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Grizz on September 22, 2014, 02:05:14 PM
The Spy Who Shagged Me
Disgrace to the first.
Where is this CT drive in?

Anyway I found a film scan of a movie. The grain, weave, and reel marks reminded me of how much I miss it. Digital cinema sucks.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 22, 2014, 02:09:51 PM
I love My Cousin Vinnie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on September 22, 2014, 02:10:53 PM
If I could have sex with any movie character, it would without question be Mona Lisa Vito.

Great movie too.

No matter what anyone says, Marisa deserved that Oscar....
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on September 22, 2014, 02:17:08 PM
Great movie.  Caught it on TV the other day from near the beginning, had to watch the rest.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on September 22, 2014, 02:17:52 PM
The Spy Who Shagged Me
Disgrace to the first.
Where is this CT drive in?

Anyway I found a film scan of a movie. The grain, weave, and reel marks reminded me of how much I miss it. Digital cinema sucks.

What!? The sequel was awesome. The third installment sucked donkey parts. I saw it in theaters when it came out and swore I'd never watch it again.

Drive in : https://www.mansfielddrivein.com/
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: masterthes on September 22, 2014, 02:45:05 PM
My Cousin Vinny was so full of win

Managed to check out Timecop for the first time on one of the Encore channels. Not too shabby
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Grizz on September 22, 2014, 03:45:53 PM
The Spy Who Shagged Me
Disgrace to the first.
Where is this CT drive in?

Anyway I found a film scan of a movie. The grain, weave, and reel marks reminded me of how much I miss it. Digital cinema sucks.

What!? The sequel was awesome. The third installment sucked donkey parts. I saw it in theaters when it came out and swore I'd never watch it again.

Drive in : https://www.mansfielddrivein.com/
I seem to have thrown off the balance of things. I shall fix it.
I mean, it was okay, but people hail it as being the best of the trilogy. This is wrong.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 22, 2014, 07:41:19 PM
People always hate on the second one, but I liked it.

The Lost World: Jurassic Park No, although I enjoy the stupidity of it.
The Spy Who Shagged Me Agreed on this one
Honey I Blew Up the Kid I preferred this one, although it's been forever since I've seen them, so that might just be nostalia.
Toy Story 2 I think I might prefer the second, but they're both very good.
Home Alone 2 Been a while since I've seen them, but who leaves their kid alone twice after that happens anyway? :lol
Men in Black 2 Again, been too long since I've seen them.
Short Circuit 2 Hell yeah! :hifive:
Avatar 2 (probably) GTFO

Were all as good, if not not better than the first.

My thoughts in bold. I'll also mention Dawn of the Planet of the Apes and Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey.
And also BTTF2
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jingle.boy on September 22, 2014, 09:51:17 PM
Bill & Ted's Bogus Sequel you mean?  That movie was f'n awful.

Lethal Weapon 2
Die Hard 2
Young Guns 2
Beverly Hills Cop 2

All had great freshman efforts, but the sequel's all just a touch better than the original.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 22, 2014, 10:06:33 PM
Bill & Ted's Bogus Sequel you mean?  That movie was f'n awful.

GTFO! :getoffmylawn:

And Die Hard 2? Come on, that was easily the worst of them. While you're at it, why don't you mention Speed 2? :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Bolsters on September 22, 2014, 10:09:42 PM
Die Hard 2
Beverly Hills Cop 2
Dude, what? :mehlin

And Die Hard 2? Come on, that was easily the worst of them.
I take it you haven't seen the fifth one yet?


Anyway, the best answer to this question: Terminator 2.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 22, 2014, 10:11:58 PM
Anyway, the best answer to this question: Terminator 2.

:facepalm: Of course. That should have been the most obvious one. One of my favourite movies of all time too.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Outcrier on September 22, 2014, 10:18:23 PM
Godfather 2, Aliens, The Empire Strikes Back, For a Few Dollars More... all of them being loved sequels as well.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jingle.boy on September 22, 2014, 10:20:33 PM
Bill & Ted's Bogus Sequel you mean?  That movie was f'n awful.

GTFO! :getoffmylawn:

And Die Hard 2? Come on, that was easily the worst of them. While you're at it, why don't you mention Speed 2? :neverusethis:

I would, but Speed 1 was awful enough on it's own.

You youngins were still learning to self-wipe when those sequels came out, and probably didn't even get those movies down under until the late 90s.   :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 22, 2014, 10:22:10 PM
You youngins were still learning to self-wipe when those sequels came out, and probably didn't even get those movies down under until the late 90s.   :lol

What's your point? That's not even an argument. Die Hard 2 is still the same crummy movie it was back when it was released.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Bolsters on September 22, 2014, 10:37:02 PM
For the record, I don't have a problem with Die Hard 2. It's a perfectly decent action flick. But better than the first movie? No. :lol For me, Die Hard 3 is above it aswell. The only ones I don't really like are four and especially five.

Oh, and it only took us about two months to get it. :loser: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099423/releaseinfo?ref_=tt_ov_inf+
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on September 22, 2014, 10:51:30 PM
I can't believe no one's mentioned Terminator 2. That one is the first one that immediately comes to mind when I think of sequels better than the first.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on September 22, 2014, 11:21:55 PM
My Cousin Vinny was so full of win


True dat. I also have an actual cousin Vinny  :lol

Just watched Manderlay  :|
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on September 23, 2014, 03:04:27 AM
My Cousin Vinny was so full of win


True dat. I also have an actual cousin Vinny  :lol

Just watched Manderlay  :|
Haven't seen that yet. There are no hopes of it living up to Dogville but I'll definitely try it out anyway.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on September 23, 2014, 03:09:07 AM
I watched Magnolia last night and it was really good.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: masterthes on September 23, 2014, 04:24:59 AM
I can't believe no one's mentioned Terminator 2. That one is the first one that immediately comes to mind when I think of sequels better than the first.
See about 6 posts above you. And when mentioning sequels that are better than the originals, look no further than Empire Strikes Back and Wrath of Khan
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on September 23, 2014, 04:58:33 AM
There's plenty of great movies that has sequels better than the original. Just a few that comes to mind: (and most have probably been mentioned)

Alien - Aliens
Terminator - Terminator 2
Fellowship of the Ring - Return of the King
A New Hope - The Empire Strikes Back
The Godfather - The Godfather Part 2
Batman Begins - The Dark Knight
X-Men - X-Men: Days of Future Past
Spider-Man - Spider-Man 2 (Sam Raimi)
Evil Dead - Evil Dead II
Toy Story - Toy Story 2 (or 3)
Captain America - The Winter Soldier
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on September 23, 2014, 05:00:40 AM
I watched Magnolia last night and it was really good.

What a grower this movie was for me.   Every time I see it, it becomes more and more brilliant.   Top 5 all time film for me.

The first time I watched it, I almost shut it off I thought it was so bad.   Now I think it's one of the most brilliant films I've ever seen.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on September 23, 2014, 05:33:57 AM
I watched Magnolia last night and it was really good.

What a grower this movie was for me.   Every time I see it, it becomes more and more brilliant.   Top 5 all time film for me.

The first time I watched it, I almost shut it off I thought it was so bad.   Now I think it's one of the most brilliant films I've ever seen.

It definitely struck me as the kind of movie you need to re-watch. Because while I did very much like it, the first half of it was kinda slow paced and the movie laid out a lot of plots and characters, but managed to connect it all nicely in the end. I have a feeling that when you re-watch it, the first half will get more interesting, because knowing the end, you might be able to find small puzzle pieces that you didn't notice before.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on September 23, 2014, 05:35:42 AM
I love it whenever I see it but i've still never seen it from start to finish.

Also I realised recently that I've never seen a Paul Thomas Anderson film from start to finish :(

And I've seen far too many Paul WS Anderson films from start to finish.

Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: orcus116 on September 23, 2014, 05:35:53 AM
Toy Story - Toy Story 2 (or 3)

Not a chance. TS2 felt more of the same and TS3 felt completely unnecessary.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on September 23, 2014, 05:36:57 AM
Toy Story - Toy Story 2 (or 3)

Not a chance. TS2 felt more of the same and TS3 felt completely unnecessary.

I've only seen each sequel once so couldn't say but Alien is definitely better than Aliens in my book.

Second is great but not enough tension building as the first one. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: masterthes on September 23, 2014, 05:55:46 AM
Two Towers came out after Fellowship
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 23, 2014, 08:14:57 AM
I wouldn't even compare Alien and Aliens.  They don't even feel like a part one and part two, they are completely different movies.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 23, 2014, 08:26:21 AM
I wouldn't even compare Alien and Aliens.  They don't even feel like a part one and part two, they are completely different movies.

This. Both are great but so different I couldn't rank them.

And I would say the same for Terminator and Terminator 2. Sure T2 was much more expensive and looks like it, but T1 has its own charm.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on September 23, 2014, 08:27:47 AM
There's plenty of great movies that has sequels better than the original. Just a few that comes to mind: (and most have probably been mentioned)

Alien - Aliens
Terminator - Terminator 2
Fellowship of the Ring - Return of the King
A New Hope - The Empire Strikes Back
The Godfather - The Godfather Part 2
Batman Begins - The Dark Knight
X-Men - X-Men: Days of Future Past
Spider-Man - Spider-Man 2 (Sam Raimi)
Evil Dead - Evil Dead II
Toy Story - Toy Story 2 (or 3)
Captain America - The Winter Soldier

No. Not even close. However the rest of your list is pretty spot-on.

I wouldn't even compare Alien and Aliens.  They don't even feel like a part one and part two, they are completely different movies.

They are definitely very different. However I do compare the two a lot myself, since I find Alien to be infinitely superior to any of its sequels, including Aliens.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on September 23, 2014, 08:29:01 AM
I wouldn't even compare Alien and Aliens.  They don't even feel like a part one and part two, they are completely different movies.

I wouldn't go that far.  I do agree that they are very different movies in terms of tone and directorial style (which isn't surprising since Ridley Scott and James Cameron are very different directors), and the original is more of a classic suspense/horror flick that just happens to be set in space, whereas the second is more of an action flick that just happens to be set in space.

But Aliens builds on the story and universe established in Alien.  Only one character survived the original, but she's back and is exactly the same character.  Some sequels are "more of the same" and some are "let's take things further" and Aliens is the second type.  We only got a piece of the background of the xenomorph and its life cycle; now we have more.  There's also Weyland-Yutani ("the company") which is back and being the same asshole corporation they were before.

To me, they feel very much like Part One and Part Two of the same story, as long as one understands that Part Two expands considerably upon Part One.


I feel the same way about the Toy Story movies.  The original takes place almost entirely in Andy's house, with a little bit over at Sid's house (although yes, that's a very important part).  Toy Story 2 takes us out into the world.  Pizza Planet, the airport, the chicken man's place, etc.  We find out that Woody isn't just some generic cowboy figure, but part of a much larger world as well, and that world is explored.  To me, it's definitely not a "more of the same" sequel, but a "let's take things further" sequel.  And then Toy Story 3 is pretty much the perfect ending to the trilogy.  It takes things even further, actually gets kinda dark and scary, but also is completely faithful to the original and has numerous callbacks to it.  And of course it provides closure to the original story while at the same time assuring the viewer that things will continue.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on September 23, 2014, 09:08:04 AM
Pizza Planet was totally the first Toy Story. That's how Sid got both Woody and Buzz in his possession. In my opinion, the Toy Story Trilogy is is best trilogy of all time.

And whether or not these kind of things are true makes me love the movies even more.

https://jonnegroni.com/2014/02/24/the-true-identity-of-andys-mom-in-toy-story-will-blow-your-mind/
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on September 23, 2014, 09:15:36 AM
I loved Magnolia the first time I saw it. And I got laid right after, so I will always have fond attachments to it  :D
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on September 23, 2014, 09:37:00 AM
Pizza Planet was totally the first Toy Story. That's how Sid got both Woody and Buzz in his possession.

Shit.  You're right, of course.

In my opinion, the Toy Story Trilogy is is best trilogy of all time.

Well, we agree on that.  :tup
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on September 23, 2014, 09:40:04 AM
Oh yeah, and I totally buy that Andy's mom was Jessie's first owner.  It may not have been in the original concept, but it's the type of thing you do when creating a sequel to create more continuity.  Andy already had the hat; all they had to do when introducing Jessie was to give her the same hat only "new".
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 23, 2014, 09:43:07 AM
I wouldn't even compare Alien and Aliens.  They don't even feel like a part one and part two, they are completely different movies.

I wouldn't go that far.  I do agree that they are very different movies in terms of tone and directorial style (which isn't surprising since Ridley Scott and James Cameron are very different directors), and the original is more of a classic suspense/horror flick that just happens to be set in space, whereas the second is more of an action flick that just happens to be set in space.

But Aliens builds on the story and universe established in Alien.  Only one character survived the original, but she's back and is exactly the same character.  Some sequels are "more of the same" and some are "let's take things further" and Aliens is the second type.  We only got a piece of the background of the xenomorph and its life cycle; now we have more.  There's also Weyland-Yutani ("the company") which is back and being the same asshole corporation they were before.

To me, they feel very much like Part One and Part Two of the same story, as long as one understands that Part Two expands considerably upon Part One.
I don't see how Part Two "expands considerably" on Part One, or "take things further."  It is just different.

Part One is a terror/suspense film, that happens to be set in outer space.  Part Two is an action film.  Obviously Part Two is a continuation of the narrative from Part One, and I love both films, but they are just different films.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on September 23, 2014, 09:57:35 AM
RE Toy Story. I'm bored of the whole " everything is the same world " stuff.

Some things are just there as cool little treats for people who notice.

But these get blown WAY out of proportion by people online who have to

prove that everything is connected.

It's like ET in phantom menace. It's just there as a gag / tribute to Spielberg

But no. People have to write entire articles in why ET is an integral part of the Star Wars universe

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on September 23, 2014, 10:00:28 AM
RE Toy Story. I'm bored of the whole " everything is the same world " stuff.

Some things are just there as cool little treats for people who notice.

But these get blown WAY out of proportion by people online who have to

prove that everything is connected.


That article had nothing to do with the Pixar universre theory. It was showing a few simple pictures (all from TS1 and TS2) that indicate Jessie's original owner being Emily's mom. Nothing crazy or stretching there.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on September 23, 2014, 10:31:08 AM
Yes. But it reminded of those articles
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on September 23, 2014, 10:32:07 AM
I think the Unified Pixar Theory (or whatever it's called) is kinduv interesting, but mostly the work of someone with too much time on their hands.  But I like the bits of continuity within the Toy Story movies which I believe are intentional, and Jessie's hat is part of that.

I don't see how Part Two "expands considerably" on Part One, or "take things further."  It is just different.

In the original, we know almost nothing about the xenomorph.  It came out of an egg and attached itself to Kane's face.  Some days later, another creature burst out of his chest.  The thing grew quickly and started killing the crew one by one, but we don't know why because the original scenes explaining that part were cut and thus are not part of the canon.  We saw a cargo hold full of eggs but have no idea why they were there.

In the sequel, the life cycle of the creature is fully explored.  The creature from the original movie is a drone, not unlike a worker bee or worker ant, whose job is to find food and return it to the hive.  But original creature had no way of getting back to the hive and, driven by instinct, knew only to capture (not necessarily kill) potential food sources.  In the sequel, we see this.  Also, it is pointed out that there must be a queen to lay the eggs in the first place.  This may or may not have been obvious to viewers after the original movie.  We meet the queen.  I consider that an expansion upon the original concept.

During the mission briefing, a number of the Marines scoff at all the precautions being taken and this civilian subject matter expert who they refer to as Snow White.  "It's a bug hunt!" they sneer.  They've obviously been on bug hunts before, they expect nothing unusual, just another mission, another paycheck.  This establishes that insect-like creatures exist on multiple worlds that we know of, and it's actually so common that we have a protocol for dealing with them and the Marines have done it so often that it means nothing to them.  (On a side note, it also helps explain why they are so completely blown away by these "bugs" -- they are nothing like anything they've seen before, and they've seen a lot).  From the events of the first movie alone, we do not know how common it is to even encounter non-human life, or if it has ever happened.  The Nostromo was a commercial towing vessel hauling a load of ore through space from one planet to another.  For all we know, we've established colonies on multiple planets, but they could just be mining colonies, or they could be residential colonies.  We know nothing about whether or not we've encountered alien life on any of these other planets.  This therefore is an expansion of the existing lore.

The concept of terraforming is introduced.  Weyland-Yutani manufactures the huge oxygen-processing machines.  It is implied that "bug hunts" sometimes need to take place to clear the hostile idigenous life, further making the prospective planet habitable.  This expands what we know about Weyland-Yutani.  It's not just a mining company, it's a huge, diversified corporation.  Their motto is "Building Better Worlds".  It also shows us how we've colonized other planets, and the process involved.  We don't just go to other planets and mine them while wearing space suits.  We actually colonize them.  We would not expend the considerable cost of terraforming a planet just to mine it; these new planets are for habitation.  This is yet another expansion of the original story.

There are a number of smaller details.  The Marines use an M-41 (or maybe it's an M-42) automatic rifle and pull magazines out of a crate marked "M-40 Series".  The M-16 is a pretty well-known firearm today; I learned to shoot one at the academy.  I don't know what number we're up to now, but I like the idea that we'll be "into the 40's" at some point in the future.

Terraforming and the idea that insect-like life is probably the most common type of life we would find on other planets are both established concepts in science fiction.  They are woven into Aliens so well that you almost forget that this is a science-fiction movie and not just an action flick set in space.  Maybe none of these details taken alone are anything earthshattering, but added all together, I think they expand considerably upon the original story.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dream Team on September 23, 2014, 11:00:44 AM
You should be a member of the AVP Galaxy forums if you aren't already.

Of course, if you're aware of deleted scenes from Alien you aware that the original concept was to have the captured humans agonizingly morphed slowly into eggs. Cameron was able to use the concept of a queen since this scene was cut, but also bringing out more of an insect analogy than the first movie alluded to. I think most Alien fans prefer the silent, deadly stalker image over the teeming bugs.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on September 23, 2014, 11:03:20 AM
I was thinking about : what would be the worst possible title for a new Alien sequel?

My choices so far are :

1. "Alien5 : Earth0"

2. Alien 5 : " The Rise of Ripley "

3. Alien 5 : " Revenge of the Xenomorph "


Inb4 prometheus.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on September 23, 2014, 11:04:15 AM
Alien VS Batman. :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on September 23, 2014, 11:38:57 AM
I can't believe no one's mentioned Terminator 2. That one is the first one that immediately comes to mind when I think of sequels better than the first.
See about 6 posts above you. And when mentioning sequels that are better than the originals, look no further than Empire Strikes Back and Wrath of Khan

Darn that reading comprehension of mine. :corn
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 23, 2014, 11:43:12 AM
I think the Unified Pixar Theory (or whatever it's called) is kinduv interesting, but mostly the work of someone with too much time on their hands.  But I like the bits of continuity within the Toy Story movies which I believe are intentional, and Jessie's hat is part of that.

I don't see how Part Two "expands considerably" on Part One, or "take things further."  It is just different.

In the original, we know almost nothing about the xenomorph.  It came out of an egg and attached itself to Kane's face.  Some days later, another creature burst out of his chest.  The thing grew quickly and started killing the crew one by one, but we don't know why because the original scenes explaining that part were cut and thus are not part of the canon.  We saw a cargo hold full of eggs but have no idea why they were there.

In the sequel, the life cycle of the creature is fully explored.  The creature from the original movie is a drone, not unlike a worker bee or worker ant, whose job is to find food and return it to the hive.  But original creature had no way of getting back to the hive and, driven by instinct, knew only to capture (not necessarily kill) potential food sources.  In the sequel, we see this.  Also, it is pointed out that there must be a queen to lay the eggs in the first place.  This may or may not have been obvious to viewers after the original movie.  We meet the queen.  I consider that an expansion upon the original concept.

During the mission briefing, a number of the Marines scoff at all the precautions being taken and this civilian subject matter expert who they refer to as Snow White.  "It's a bug hunt!" they sneer.  They've obviously been on bug hunts before, they expect nothing unusual, just another mission, another paycheck.  This establishes that insect-like creatures exist on multiple worlds that we know of, and it's actually so common that we have a protocol for dealing with them and the Marines have done it so often that it means nothing to them.  (On a side note, it also helps explain why they are so completely blown away by these "bugs" -- they are nothing like anything they've seen before, and they've seen a lot).  From the events of the first movie alone, we do not know how common it is to even encounter non-human life, or if it has ever happened.  The Nostromo was a commercial towing vessel hauling a load of ore through space from one planet to another.  For all we know, we've established colonies on multiple planets, but they could just be mining colonies, or they could be residential colonies.  We know nothing about whether or not we've encountered alien life on any of these other planets.  This therefore is an expansion of the existing lore.

The concept of terraforming is introduced.  Weyland-Yutani manufactures the huge oxygen-processing machines.  It is implied that "bug hunts" sometimes need to take place to clear the hostile idigenous life, further making the prospective planet habitable.  This expands what we know about Weyland-Yutani.  It's not just a mining company, it's a huge, diversified corporation.  Their motto is "Building Better Worlds".  It also shows us how we've colonized other planets, and the process involved.  We don't just go to other planets and mine them while wearing space suits.  We actually colonize them.  We would not expend the considerable cost of terraforming a planet just to mine it; these new planets are for habitation.  This is yet another expansion of the original story.

There are a number of smaller details.  The Marines use an M-41 (or maybe it's an M-42) automatic rifle and pull magazines out of a crate marked "M-40 Series".  The M-16 is a pretty well-known firearm today; I learned to shoot one at the academy.  I don't know what number we're up to now, but I like the idea that we'll be "into the 40's" at some point in the future.

Terraforming and the idea that insect-like life is probably the most common type of life we would find on other planets are both established concepts in science fiction.  They are woven into Aliens so well that you almost forget that this is a science-fiction movie and not just an action flick set in space.  Maybe none of these details taken alone are anything earthshattering, but added all together, I think they expand considerably upon the original story.
*shrugs*

I see what you mean.  But to me, watching the movie, all of that is basically details to lead up to the action.  I think the actual "history" and things of that nature are subservient to the action scenes.  The first one just isn't that way, it is very much a "mood" film, not an action film.  That's all I'm saying.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Lucien on September 23, 2014, 11:54:54 AM
Yeah, I seriously doubt the creator of The Unified Pixar Theory actually believes it, even though it's really great  :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on September 23, 2014, 12:05:06 PM
*shrugs*

I see what you mean.  But to me, watching the movie, all of that is basically details to lead up to the action.  I think the actual "history" and things of that nature are subservient to the action scenes.  The first one just isn't that way, it is very much a "mood" film, not an action film.  That's all I'm saying.

Maybe it's because I'm more a sci-fi nerd than a movie buff.  Sure, Aliens is all about the action, whereas Alien is all about the suspense, but from the first time I saw it (on the big screen... blew me away) what I loved about it is how it actually dug into the sci-fi and treated that part of its story with respect.  So that's what sticks with me, I guess.

You should be a member of the AVP Galaxy forums if you aren't already.

Of course, if you're aware of deleted scenes from Alien you aware that the original concept was to have the captured humans agonizingly morphed slowly into eggs. Cameron was able to use the concept of a queen since this scene was cut, but also bringing out more of an insect analogy than the first movie alluded to. I think most Alien fans prefer the silent, deadly stalker image over the teeming bugs.

Yeah, the original concept of the creature was way more "alien" than what we got in the second movie and beyond.  Once Cameron went with the idea that they were hive-based creatures, the others had to stick with that.

But I'm okay with that.  I remember reading about the original concept way back in the 80's, about how there was a deleted scene where Ripley finds Dallas, coccooned but still alive and slowly being morphed into an egg.  From that egg, a new creature will emerge, and that starts the cycle over again.  I remember thinking that someone was fucking dreaming or high because that was about the stupidest thing I'd ever read.  How in the hell does a human being get transformed at the molecular level into an egg, within which the larval stage of a completely different species grows and eventually emerges?  The only answer was that "It's alien, it's completely different from what we're familiar with."  Yeah, I get that, but I also understand enough science to know that nature, regardless of what planet you're on, tends to do things in a logical and efficient way, and this just plain makes no sense.

I'm no stranger to weird sci-fi, but at some level it has to still work.  I'm glad those scenes were cut from the original flick, and that Cameron (or whoever did the script) went in the direction of a hive-based creature, only huge, evolved, and more intelligent.  Alien, but still relatable to us, and probably scarier because of it.

The only negative side to cutting the Dallas scene is that we see Ripley running through the ship, then suddenly she's running harder and has an absolutely terrified expression on her face.  That's because she's just left Dallas, halfway through the morphing process, and we didn't see it.  The way it stands now, things are suddenly ramped up for her, but we don't know why.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on September 23, 2014, 12:09:15 PM
I can't believe no one's mentioned Terminator 2. That one is the first one that immediately comes to mind when I think of sequels better than the first.
See about 6 posts above you. And when mentioning sequels that are better than the originals, look no further than Empire Strikes Back and Wrath of Khan

Darn that reading comprehension of mine. :corn


i find it funny that in both Star Trek and Star Wars - the Second film is considered the best

The Wrath Of Khan & The Empire Strikes Back

And the fifth film is generally considered the worst.

The Final Frontier and Attack Of The Clones.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on September 23, 2014, 12:32:08 PM
I thought Toy Story 3 was incredibly mediocre.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on September 23, 2014, 12:46:23 PM
 :omg:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 23, 2014, 12:50:47 PM
*shrugs*

I see what you mean.  But to me, watching the movie, all of that is basically details to lead up to the action.  I think the actual "history" and things of that nature are subservient to the action scenes.  The first one just isn't that way, it is very much a "mood" film, not an action film.  That's all I'm saying.

Maybe it's because I'm more a sci-fi nerd than a movie buff.  Sure, Aliens is all about the action, whereas Alien is all about the suspense, but from the first time I saw it (on the big screen... blew me away) what I loved about it is how it actually dug into the sci-fi and treated that part of its story with respect.  So that's what sticks with me, I guess.
Makes sense.

And for my money, the less said about the subsequent sequels, the better.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on September 23, 2014, 12:52:54 PM
I can't believe no one's mentioned Terminator 2. That one is the first one that immediately comes to mind when I think of sequels better than the first.
See about 6 posts above you. And when mentioning sequels that are better than the originals, look no further than Empire Strikes Back and Wrath of Khan

Darn that reading comprehension of mine. :corn


i find it funny that in both Star Trek and Star Wars - the Second film is considered the best

The Wrath Of Khan & The Empire Strikes Back

And the fifth film is generally considered the worst.

The Final Frontier and Attack Of The Clones.

Not to mention the second Abram's film being better than the first as well.

I thought Toy Story 3 was incredibly mediocre.

 :|
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on September 23, 2014, 01:04:06 PM
Star Trek 2009 also came out 30 years after The Motion Picture which is why they did a tribute to the new Enterprise reveal - albeit a lot quicker.

I don't think Into Darkness is better than ST11 but I do think they're about equal overall.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 23, 2014, 01:10:22 PM
Toy Story 3 was awesome.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on September 23, 2014, 01:18:53 PM
I thought Toy Story 3 was incredibly mediocre.

But it was so dark and evil!!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on September 23, 2014, 04:25:12 PM
Just watched Primer and my brain feels like scrambled eggs. I loved it though.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on September 23, 2014, 04:59:46 PM
Men In Black II is TERRIBLE. Terrible plot, terrible CGI, terrible everything. Even MIB3 is better than that crap.

I still like The Lost World, but hell no it isn't better than the original. In fact, it really is quite stupid, but still better than JP3.

Bogus Journey turns to shit after they meet Station.

Die Hard 2 used to be my least favorite of the franchise until Part 5. I'll take some horrible acting (and I mean HORRIBLE acting) over a phoned in, non fucks given Bruce Willis. I mean, if he didn't want to be there, why even make the movie? You can see it in his performance how much he doesn't want to be there. I can see maybe John McClane having the "I'm getting too old for this shit" mentality, but Bruce (along with a crummy plot, but mostly Bruce) made that movie boring as fuck.

I've only seen Toy Story 2 once, and I don't remember being too thrilled about it, but TS3 was great.

Home Alone 2 was more over the top, and that made it more entertaining, even though Harry and Marv would have been dead after the first booby trap.

You youngins were still learning to self-wipe when those sequels came out, and probably didn't even get those movies down under until the late 90s.   :lol

Eh... So? How is that relevant? Are we somehow not allowed to criticize things we weren't old enough to enjoy at the time?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on September 23, 2014, 05:09:57 PM
Men In Black II is TERRIBLE. Terrible plot, terrible CGI, terrible everything. Even MIB3 is better than that crap.
You say "Even MIB3" like MIB3 is bad.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on September 23, 2014, 05:15:44 PM
Men In Black II is TERRIBLE. Terrible plot, terrible CGI, terrible everything. Even MIB3 is better than that crap.
You say "Even MIB3" like MIB3 is bad.

It's not without its flaws. Still very enjoyable, but I love time travel stories.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: orcus116 on September 23, 2014, 06:19:34 PM
I thought Toy Story 3 was incredibly mediocre.

Most definitely, although I didn't get that nostalgia feel that most people my age were describing. I actually found the ending very corny.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on September 23, 2014, 06:40:06 PM
Men In Black II is TERRIBLE. Terrible plot, terrible CGI, terrible everything. Even MIB3 is better than that crap.
You say "Even MIB3" like MIB3 is bad.

It's not without its flaws. Still very enjoyable, but I love time travel stories.

I thought MIB3 was pure shit. However, Agent J finding out the story of his dad was pretty good.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on September 23, 2014, 06:47:30 PM
To each their own. One thing that made me sad though was just how old Tommy Lee Jones is.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on September 23, 2014, 06:52:33 PM
To each their own. One thing that made me sad though was just how old Tommy Lee Jones is.

Speaking of... I'll give the guy who played young Tommy Jones a lot of credit. His impression was dead on.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on September 23, 2014, 06:54:34 PM
To each their own. One thing that made me sad though was just how old Tommy Lee Jones is.

Speaking of... I'll give the guy who played young Tommy Jones a lot of credit. His impression was dead on.

YES. That was an awesome performance.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on September 23, 2014, 06:55:02 PM
Just watched Primer and my brain feels like scrambled eggs. I loved it though.
I had so much fun trying to deconstruct that thing. Really awesome movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on September 23, 2014, 07:35:39 PM
Primer is mental. Really something special
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jingle.boy on September 23, 2014, 08:20:55 PM
All I'm saying about you 30 something's is that sometimes the awesomeness of a movie (or anything really) in it's prime, or as it's happening is tangibly different/better than experiencing it years or decades later.  Can anyone really appreciate the awesomeness of Bobby Orr/Wayne Gretzky that didn't experience it in the 70s and 80s (pick any other sport, player)?  Same can be said for movies and TV shows on some level.

Try to watch WKRP in Cincinnati these days.  Not the same as if you watched it 35 years ago.

That's all I'm saying.  'Twas not meant to be disrespectful, just a cheeky way of saying the 15 years difference can be tangible in assessing the quality of something from that era.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on September 23, 2014, 11:27:39 PM
To each their own. One thing that made me sad though was just how old Tommy Lee Jones is.

Speaking of... I'll give the guy who played young Tommy Jones a lot of credit. His impression was dead on.

Josh Brolin ? He of The Goonies and " No Country For Old Men " ?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on September 23, 2014, 11:31:47 PM
To each their own. One thing that made me sad though was just how old Tommy Lee Jones is.

Speaking of... I'll give the guy who played young Tommy Jones a lot of credit. His impression was dead on.

Josh Brolin ? He of The Goonies and " No Country For Old Men " ?

Yes, the only guy who played young Agent K. Unless you were being condescending like everyone should know his name because of those 2 movies.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on September 24, 2014, 12:21:38 AM
...
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on September 24, 2014, 12:42:45 AM
...

Might as well be posting a emoticon... Which is something I'm sure you've complained about before.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on September 24, 2014, 12:48:56 AM
I just have no idea what your problem is. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on September 24, 2014, 12:58:31 AM
I just have no idea what your problem is. 

You're more crotchety than me, and I'm a very competitive person.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on September 24, 2014, 05:37:42 AM
To each their own. One thing that made me sad though was just how old Tommy Lee Jones is.

Speaking of... I'll give the guy who played young Tommy Jones a lot of credit. His impression was dead on.

Josh Brolin ? He of The Goonies and " No Country For Old Men " ?

Never saw either.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on September 24, 2014, 06:20:29 AM
I never did, either.  But he was so amazing as the young Agent K that I made it a point to find out who he was.  I didn't want to keep referring to him as "the guy who played the young Tommy Lee Jones character".  Even if that's basically what he's known for now.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 24, 2014, 06:26:00 AM
The Goonies was a lot of fun watching it in the cinema when I was 14/15. Don't know if it would hold up if I saw it again today. Never made the connection that the Josh Brolin from No Country For Old Men was also in The Goonies.

Also: True Grit
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on September 24, 2014, 06:41:32 AM
I loved the new True Grit. I've seen it three times and loved it more each time. I tried watching the original before seeing it in theaters, and I had to turn in off as I was beyond bored.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on September 24, 2014, 06:54:01 AM
I just have no idea what your problem is. 

You're more crotchety than me, and I'm a very competitive person.

You haven't been paying attention then.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jingle.boy on September 24, 2014, 07:21:56 AM
I just have no idea what your problem is. 

You're more crotchety than me, and I'madfad a very competitive person.

You haven't been paying attention then.

To be fair Kotow... you WERE more crotchety than Zook.  Not lately though.  You've mellowed out quite a bit.  What's your secret?  Daily affirmations with Stuart Smalley?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 24, 2014, 07:24:14 AM
I just have no idea what your problem is. 

You're more crotchety than me, and I'madfad a very competitive person.

You haven't been paying attention then.

To be fair Kotow... you WERE more crotchety than Zook.  Not lately though.  You've mellowed out quite a bit.  What's your secret?  Daily affirmations with Stuart Smalley?

It's the chat thread. We've converted him.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 24, 2014, 07:37:44 AM
I'm good enough.  I'm smart enough.  And doggone it, people like me!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on September 24, 2014, 07:44:25 AM
I just have no idea what your problem is. 

You're more crotchety than me, and I'madfad a very competitive person.

You haven't been paying attention then.

To be fair Kotow... you WERE more crotchety than Zook.  Not lately though.  You've mellowed out quite a bit.  What's your secret?  Daily affirmations with Stuart Smalley?

Not really. Someone said " whoever played the Young Agent K " and I merely said it's Josh Brolin who was also in Goonies and No Country For Old Men.

Apparently providing information is the new murder.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on September 24, 2014, 08:38:42 AM
I watched Mud last night.  That was pretty good! I love McConaughey, and also enjoyed the main kid. Some was a bit over-the-top/hard to suspend my disbelief for, but overall I didn't mind.
I found it a little annoying that both of those characters are sort of portrayed as hopeless romantics while women are fickle and mess with their heads, but whatever (even the kid's mom- she's just ruining everyone's lives by wanting a divorce). It just points to the larger problem that I've commented on before about the portrayal of women in film. All of the truly significant characters in the movie are men, and the women are just kinda there to support and develop them. *sigh*
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on September 24, 2014, 08:43:38 AM
I'm getting a bit tired of families in films who are divorced parents from the outset.


Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on September 24, 2014, 08:50:23 AM
I'm getting a bit tired of families in films who are divorced parents from the outset.

The movies are just reflecting real life.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 24, 2014, 09:43:42 AM
I watched Mud last night.  That was pretty good! I love McConaughey, and also enjoyed the main kid. Some was a bit over-the-top/hard to suspend my disbelief for, but overall I didn't mind.
I found it a little annoying that both of those characters are sort of portrayed as hopeless romantics while women are fickle and mess with their heads, but whatever (even the kid's mom- she's just ruining everyone's lives by wanting a divorce). It just points to the larger problem that I've commented on before about the portrayal of women in film. All of the truly significant characters in the movie are men, and the women are just kinda there to support and develop them. *sigh*
I agree with your assessment.  I thought the film was really good.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on September 24, 2014, 10:04:02 AM
I just have no idea what your problem is. 

You're more crotchety than me, and I'madfad a very competitive person.

You haven't been paying attention then.

To be fair Kotow... you WERE more crotchety than Zook.  Not lately though.  You've mellowed out quite a bit.  What's your secret?  Daily affirmations with Stuart Smalley?

Not really. Someone said " whoever played the Young Agent K " and I merely said it's Josh Brolin who was also in Goonies and No Country For Old Men.

Apparently providing information is the new murder.

The question marks make your post very pompous.


Actually, I just like arguing with people. Can't you tell?

Your face is stupid. Ok, your turn!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on September 24, 2014, 10:11:40 AM
I like kittens?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: eric42434224 on September 24, 2014, 10:23:52 AM
I like kittens?

You now what really pisses me off?  Kittens.  I hate them because everybody else likes them, and its so annoying when everybody likes something because they are supposed to.  And they are soooo cute.  So I hate them.

 ;)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on September 24, 2014, 10:29:09 AM
I like kittens?

You now what really pisses me off?  Kittens.  I hate them because everybody else likes them, and its so annoying when everybody likes something because they are supposed to.  And they are soooo cute.  So I hate them.

 ;)

Is it bad that I thought that was a real quote?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: eric42434224 on September 24, 2014, 10:31:47 AM
I like kittens?

You now what really pisses me off?  Kittens.  I hate them because everybody else likes them, and its so annoying when everybody likes something because they are supposed to.  And they are soooo cute.  So I hate them.

 ;)

Is it bad that I thought that was a real quote?

 :rollin
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on September 24, 2014, 10:48:06 AM
I like kittens?

You now what really pisses me off?  Kittens.  I hate them because everybody else likes them, and its so annoying when everybody likes something because they are supposed to.  And they are soooo cute.  So I hate them.

 ;)

Is it bad that I thought that was a real quote?

I wouldn't have left in the spelling error. ;) xx
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: eric42434224 on September 24, 2014, 10:54:30 AM
I like kittens?

You now what really pisses me off?  Kittens.  I hate them because everybody else likes them, and its so annoying when everybody likes something because they are supposed to.  And they are soooo cute.  So I hate them.

 ;)

Is it bad that I thought that was a real quote?

I wouldn't have left in the spelling error. ;) xx


Really?


The term " Plus size ". Meaning anyone that doesn't fit into your parameters for how a person "should" look - deserves their own seperate category and must be mocked.

This of course goes along with tabloid "journalism".

Just pure scum.


;) xxx
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on September 24, 2014, 10:56:03 AM
wtf @ this thread
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Lucien on September 24, 2014, 02:28:51 PM
(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/forumavatars/avatar_7653_1410405652.jpg)

You guys are depressing lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on September 24, 2014, 04:11:07 PM
Sorry guys, Kotow and I were just doing a line reading for the new Grumpy Old Men sequel, Grumpiest Old Men. It's relevaant.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: eric42434224 on September 24, 2014, 04:16:09 PM
Sorry guys, Kotow and I were just doing a line reading for the new Grumpy Old Men sequel, Grumpiest Old Men. It's relevaant.

It's the prequel
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on September 24, 2014, 05:20:18 PM
I see no spelling error  :hat



But hey - if you guys are so desperate to bring back old Kotowboy - i'm more than happy to oblige.

But it was you guys that were forever telling me to lighten up. So make up your minds please.





NOW LETS TALK ABOUT MOTHERFUCKIN MOVIES !!!! :tick:


I can't wait for Interstellar !!! :zydar:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on September 24, 2014, 05:35:57 PM
I see no spelling error  :hat



But hey - if you guys are so desperate to bring back old Kotowboy - i'm more than happy to oblige.

But it was you guys that were forever telling me to lighten up. So make up your minds please.





NOW LETS TALK ABOUT MOTHERFUCKIN MOVIES !!!! :tick:


I can't wait for Interstellar !!! :zydar:

Your face turn didn't go over well with the crowd. Time to turn heel again.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on September 24, 2014, 06:01:48 PM
The new trailer looks great and Nolan always delivers the goods.

Plus it's released on my birthday so i'm thinking a special IMAX treat  :coolio
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: eric42434224 on September 24, 2014, 07:09:07 PM
I see no spelling error  :hat


really?

And I too am really looking forward to Interstellar.
Sci-Fi is by far my favorite movie genre.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Obfuscation on September 24, 2014, 10:24:56 PM
Whoever just said they haven't watched No Country for Old Men, please watch it some time soon. You're missing out.

Mud was a good movie as well and I probably would've scoffed at your posts bout to crash but looking back it, you're pretty much right on how they were portrayed on Mud.

Anyone looking forward to Fury?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: ZKX-2099 on September 24, 2014, 10:57:05 PM

Your face turn didn't go over well with the crowd. Time to turn heel again.

Vince Russo?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on September 24, 2014, 11:23:40 PM
Honeymoon in Vegas. Ridiculous  :lol

Mud was a good movie as well and I probably would've scoffed at your posts bout to crash but looking back it, you're pretty much right on how they were portrayed on Mud.


 :)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: KevShmev on September 24, 2014, 11:33:53 PM
I'll never not be totally transfixed whenever I watch Cast Away.  Gripping film, amazing performance by the legendary Tom Hanks, and I just love the ending to death.  So good. :coolio
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: ZKX-2099 on September 24, 2014, 11:58:18 PM
There's something very relaxing about most of that movie... after the crash scene that is.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on September 25, 2014, 04:10:13 AM
I'll never not be totally transfixed whenever I watch Cast Away.  Gripping film, amazing performance by the legendary Tom Hanks, and I just love the ending to death.  So good. :coolio

There is not a chance in hell I wouldn't have opened that last package.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 25, 2014, 06:29:16 AM
I thought Cast Away was a great film, but it's one of those that has NO replay value for me.  I just can't imagine watching it again.

But Hanks was fantastic in it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on September 25, 2014, 09:14:02 AM
^Pretty much exactly that.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: KevShmev on September 25, 2014, 09:52:55 AM
I agree that it's replay value is not high; I only revisit it once every few years, but every time I do, I think it's great.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on September 25, 2014, 09:57:07 AM
I find it funny that the script for Cast Away actually had lines written out for Wilson.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: KevShmev on September 25, 2014, 10:08:51 AM
Really? :lol  My guess would be so whatever lines Hanks' character said back to him sounded more natural.  It's like when you see a scene in a movie or TV show where someone is talking to another on the phone, but you only see one end of the conversation; they probably make up lines the other person is saying, even if we never see or hear them being spoken.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on September 25, 2014, 10:10:47 AM
Exactly.  So Hanks would have something to react to.  I think all the one-sided conversations are great; Hanks does a great job of responding to things Wilson says, if only his head, and we can almost always tell what it was that Hanks imagined Wilson said.  That may or may not have been as clear if Hanks didn't have the lines to respond to.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on September 27, 2014, 04:43:18 AM
2001 is a classic, but 2010 is pretty damn cool too.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on September 27, 2014, 05:39:39 AM
2001 is a classic, but 2010 is pretty damn cool too.

Yeah I didn't mind it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 27, 2014, 05:43:51 AM
2001 is a classic, but 2010 is pretty damn cool too.
TBH, I actually prefer 2010.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on September 27, 2014, 06:55:47 AM
I really like Cast Away as well, but I'm a sucker for the "stuck alone on an island" stories, so the same goes for the story of Robinson Crusoe for example.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Super Dude on September 27, 2014, 09:16:52 AM
Almost a year after it came out, I've finally seen Saving Mr. Banks. It's really terrible - it's like Disney taunting P.L. Traverse from beyond the grave.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The King in Crimson on September 27, 2014, 10:01:11 AM
Almost a year after it came out, I've finally seen Saving Mr. Banks. It's really terrible - it's like Disney taunting P.L. Traverse from beyond the grave.
I liked it, if only because Emma Thompson is really, really good in it. And Colin Ferrell too. But yeah, the rest is basically a Disney whitewash and not really true and factual, though the little I've read makes it seem as if PL Travers was even MORE unpleasant in real-life.  :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on September 27, 2014, 03:54:11 PM
Edge Of Tomorrow was alot better than expected.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on September 27, 2014, 07:36:11 PM
Finally saw American Hustle

Whoa.

I might write more after I've had a chance to digest it.  Great movie, though.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on September 28, 2014, 01:08:41 AM
Yeah, I enjoyed that one.

Saw The Zero Theorem last night, with mixed feelings. Weird and funny, which Gilliam always does well... but I felt like there was something missing. Visually very cool, of course, with some future dystopian elements that seem uncomfortably realistic.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on September 28, 2014, 03:56:57 AM
Almost a year after it came out, I've finally seen Saving Mr. Banks. It's really terrible - it's like Disney taunting P.L. Traverse from beyond the grave.
I would have been far more interested in seeing a biography about Walt starring Tom Hanks.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 28, 2014, 04:48:35 AM
Almost a year after it came out, I've finally seen Saving Mr. Banks. It's really terrible - it's like Disney taunting P.L. Traverse from beyond the grave.
What do you mean?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on September 28, 2014, 04:57:50 AM
Edge Of Tomorrow was alot better than expected.

Definitely !
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on September 28, 2014, 07:28:37 AM
^ Saw it today, and it was good. Though 8.0 at IMDb is pushing it..
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Outcrier on September 28, 2014, 09:42:12 AM
^ Saw it today, and it was good. Though 8.0 at IMDb is pushing it..

That's because IMDB users overrate any new movie (include giving ratings of 10 or 1 before even watching it, something that happens with all new superhero movies per example).

The TV series ranking is pretty good though, i give them that.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Super Dude on September 30, 2014, 04:35:28 AM
Almost a year after it came out, I've finally seen Saving Mr. Banks. It's really terrible - it's like Disney taunting P.L. Traverse from beyond the grave.
What do you mean?

Oh sorry. Yeah, so basically they transform her into this person who's anti anything positive to the point of inhumanity (as Crimson said, apparently she was rather unpleasant, but this was basically completely over the top), and they completely changed the facts of how Disney acquired the rights and whatnot while making Disney himself seem by contrast like a fatherly and affable figure (when in reality he was a huge jerk to her).

There's a good article that summarizes the most appalling changes if you can get past the more politically charged commentary of it: https://www.laweekly.com/2013-12-12/film-tv/saving-mr-banks-mary-poppins/
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on September 30, 2014, 04:36:27 AM
I dislike Emma Thompson. I think she over acts in everything.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on September 30, 2014, 06:10:02 AM
So I watched The Purge the other night with the lady. What a piece of shit movie that was. I don't even know where to start. The daughter and her boyfriend were the most cringe-worthy elements I may have ever seen in a movie. The ending was absolute shit too. The only decent thing that happened in that hour and a half was the scene when the father was wondering around with the shotgun. I was expecting that movie to be an hour and a half of people in a city going ape shit on one another, not an hour and a half of some family's house.

2/10
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: ozzy554 on September 30, 2014, 07:45:47 AM
So I watched The Purge the other night with the lady. What a piece of shit movie that was. I don't even know where to start. The daughter and her boyfriend were the most cringe-worthy elements I may have ever seen in a movie. The ending was absolute shit too. The only decent thing that happened in that hour and a half was the scene when the father was wondering around with the shotgun. I was expecting that movie to be an hour and a half of people in a city going ape shit on one another, not an hour and a half of some family's house.

2/10

That is what bugged me about the movie. They had in my opinion an awesomely ridiculous concept to work with and they made a home invasion movie with it. The purge: Anarchy looks like what I wanted the first one to be.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Xanthul on September 30, 2014, 08:45:09 AM
The Purge is an interesting concept with atrocious execution. Terrible plot holes and stupid decisions by every character, time and time again.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on September 30, 2014, 08:48:29 AM
The Purge is an interesting concept with atrocious execution. Terrible plot holes and stupid decisions by every character, time and time again.

^ pretty much every one of those films.

Hey there's a guy in my house - best run upstairs where I can definitely escape  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on September 30, 2014, 08:48:58 AM
I rewatched Rush Hour and Rush Hour 2, and both are still entertaining and enjoyable IMO. Not on the same level as the very best of action (like Die Hard, Predator, Matrix or T2 for example), but Chan/Tucker is a great duo. I've always been a big fan of Chan, and while Tucker is a bit obnoxious, he really is so full of himself that his character becomes funny as a result. The stuff he says aren't always funny, but just how over-the-top he is, always viewing himself as the ultimate cop, when in reality he is a pretty mediocre one who screws stuff up.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on September 30, 2014, 09:01:28 AM
Almost a year after it came out, I've finally seen Saving Mr. Banks. It's really terrible - it's like Disney taunting P.L. Traverse from beyond the grave.
What do you mean?

Oh sorry. Yeah, so basically they transform her into this person who's anti anything positive to the point of inhumanity (as Crimson said, apparently she was rather unpleasant, but this was basically completely over the top), and they completely changed the facts of how Disney acquired the rights and whatnot while making Disney himself seem by contrast like a fatherly and affable figure (when in reality he was a huge jerk to her).

There's a good article that summarizes the most appalling changes if you can get past the more politically charged commentary of it: https://www.laweekly.com/2013-12-12/film-tv/saving-mr-banks-mary-poppins/

As "over the top" as it was, it's my understanding that the reality was even worse.

What I hated about it was this overdone "rainbow in the sky" idea that you can "nice" mean people into being nice themselves.   (like in The Grinch story)   But the reality (as it was with the real P.L.) is that some people are just mean people, and you're never going to change or redeem them because mean is just who they are.   Even her own adopted child ended up disowning her, and a biographer (possibly the kid?? I don't remember) wrote that she died "loving no one, and with no one loving her either."    She was just never a nice person to anyone.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Scorpion on September 30, 2014, 03:02:52 PM
So I very recently saw both A Most Wanted Man - brilliant - and Sin City 2 - not as good as the first one, but not nearly as atrocious as some reviews claimed, so all in all, last week was a good cinema week.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Super Dude on September 30, 2014, 05:53:44 PM
Almost a year after it came out, I've finally seen Saving Mr. Banks. It's really terrible - it's like Disney taunting P.L. Traverse from beyond the grave.
What do you mean?

Oh sorry. Yeah, so basically they transform her into this person who's anti anything positive to the point of inhumanity (as Crimson said, apparently she was rather unpleasant, but this was basically completely over the top), and they completely changed the facts of how Disney acquired the rights and whatnot while making Disney himself seem by contrast like a fatherly and affable figure (when in reality he was a huge jerk to her).

There's a good article that summarizes the most appalling changes if you can get past the more politically charged commentary of it: https://www.laweekly.com/2013-12-12/film-tv/saving-mr-banks-mary-poppins/

As "over the top" as it was, it's my understanding that the reality was even worse.

What I hated about it was this overdone "rainbow in the sky" idea that you can "nice" mean people into being nice themselves.   (like in The Grinch story)   But the reality (as it was with the real P.L.) is that some people are just mean people, and you're never going to change or redeem them because mean is just who they are.   Even her own adopted child ended up disowning her, and a biographer (possibly the kid?? I don't remember) wrote that she died "loving no one, and with no one loving her either."    She was just never a nice person to anyone.

That still doesn't change the fact that Disney treated her like shit and used a loophole in their contract to basically take away all creative control and relegate her to "consultant" on the movie. He did things that may have technically constituted a breach, but he had this "final reel" loophole.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on September 30, 2014, 11:34:40 PM
^^^^^^^^^

I'm not necessarily saying that Disney was "right" or "justified" in doing what he did...but at the same time, there aren't too many people who wouldn't...upon discovering that someone is being a complete and total ass and simply holding their part in the group endeavour hostage...wouldn't begin to become *very hostile* in return.    She's probably lucky that Disney *only* acted like prick.   
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on October 01, 2014, 05:21:43 AM
Sooo.....



There's a going to be a TETRIS movie...

Surely the only choice of theme song is " Build Me up, Break Me Down " ? :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Bolsters on October 01, 2014, 05:27:51 AM
Sooo.....
There's a going to be a TETRIS movie...
(https://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o669/bolsters/doublepalm.png~original)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on October 01, 2014, 05:28:48 AM
I saw The Equalizer last week. Surprisingly much better than I had expected it to be. It's not groundbreaking or anything, but there was a sincerity to it that I haven't really felt in watching many action movies recently, especially those starring older stars in the lead role.

Also I rewatched ALIEN and Aliens last night. I was actually kinda surprised at how much I ended up enjoying Aliens a lot more than I remembered enjoying it last. Sure, it's definitely a lot more action-oriented, but Cameron did put in a good amount of effort in making Aliens a suspenseful and disturbing film like its predecessor. Hell, he even had a pretty eerie homage to the original film's opening with the first scene set in the Sulaco, which was something I'd never really noticed before.

Dare I say it, while ALIEN has a much stronger and creepier atmosphere to it... I think Aliens may very well be the overall 'smarter' film now. Kinda shocked with that myself.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on October 01, 2014, 05:30:11 AM
[ Tetris ]

Maybe Phil Lord & Chris Miller will write & direct and it will be like The Lego Movie..



But it will probably be Michael Bay and it will feature leery misogynist labourers leering at passing females while trying to build a wall.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MiracleSleeper on October 01, 2014, 07:44:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-8YsulfxVI

New trailer for Exodus: Gods and Kings.

This movie looks truly beautiful.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on October 01, 2014, 08:38:59 AM
Also I rewatched ALIEN and Aliens last night. I was actually kinda surprised at how much I ended up enjoying Aliens a lot more than I remembered enjoying it last. Sure, it's definitely a lot more action-oriented, but Cameron did put in a good amount of effort in making Aliens a suspenseful and disturbing film like its predecessor. Hell, he even had a pretty eerie homage to the original film's opening with the first scene set in the Sulaco, which was something I'd never really noticed before.

Dare I say it, while ALIEN has a much stronger and creepier atmosphere to it... I think Aliens may very well be the overall 'smarter' film now. Kinda shocked with that myself.

See, that's what I was talking about earlier.  It's a huge film, over 2.5 hours, and there's a lot to it.  It's not just more of the same, and it's not just the mindless action flick that many say it is.  It packs a lot of story, philosophy, action, and atmosphere into its run time.  It expands upon the original concept, and delivers pretty much on all levels as far as I'm concerned.  I'm a proud owner of the six-disc Blu-ray box (all four movies plus shitloads of extras) but it was mainly the first two movies, and mainly this one, that I wanted in Hi-Def.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on October 01, 2014, 08:54:42 AM
Alien 3 is actually better than most people give it credit for...certainly not to the level of the first two, but not a bad film.

But wow!  What a train wreck Alien:Resurrection was.    :facepalm:   I went into the theater with pretty high hopes, but it was just really really bad...
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on October 01, 2014, 09:07:24 AM
I hate resurrection. It completely threw out any atmosphere and tension and replaced it completely with stupid Hollywood macho posturing and people saying Fuck just to sound "badass". It was really bright and all the characters were awful.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on October 01, 2014, 09:08:20 AM
It's really saying something when Paul WS Anderson makes a better movie than you.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on October 01, 2014, 10:20:43 AM
It's a huge film, over 2.5 hours, and there's a lot to it.  It's not just more of the same, and it's not just the mindless action flick that many say it is.  It packs a lot of story, philosophy, action, and atmosphere into its run time.  It expands upon the original concept, and delivers pretty much on all levels as far as I'm concerned.

:chino:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on October 01, 2014, 10:47:29 AM
About the new Exodus trailer.. I can't correctly remember if there actually was a prophecy about Moses saving the slaves, but what I do know is that I am fucking sick of prophecies. Can't people just do large things in fantasy stuff because they want to or something like that? Why must there always be a prophecy to ruin it?

Other than that, it looks awesome.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: masterthes on October 01, 2014, 11:22:23 AM
Yeah, the 3rd Alien movie is pretty good, just not the caliber of the first two. Resurrection can go fuck itself. It's the Batman & Robin of the Alien franchise
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on October 01, 2014, 11:49:50 AM
I don't hate Alien: Resurrection the way most people do.  Sure, it was a completely pointless sequel.  So was the previous one, and so was the first one, for that matter.  But given that, where can they take the story next?  Well, by this point, they're doing research on the creature, always with an eye towards using it for military and/or scientific gain, expanding upon (and probably duplicating a lot of) the research done on LV-426.  Cloning them from DNA retrieved from Ripley's toasted body (from the end of Alien 3) was a stupid idea, but okay, given that, it does make sense where they've gone with it.

I liked the way the crew of the Betty was a callback to the dirty, blue-collar crew of Nostromo.  Sure, the crew were mostly assholes.  They're space pirates, or something.  The military guys are typical one-note idiots.  Of course the aliens escape and raise hell; you wouldn't have a movie otherwise.

Let's face it, most movies start with an unlikely premise.  If it was literally commonplace and everyday, it wouldn't be interesting, unless that's the whole point of the movie, that it is in fact something that happens every day.  So the setup and premise are kinda bad, but I still appreciate what they did with them.  The third and fourth movies fight it out for weakest installment in the series in my book, but each of them has redeeming qualities.

It probably helps that we first saw Alien: Resurrection while smoking a whole lot of non-tobacco while my parents were gone for the weekend.  The hybrid baby at the end was creepy as all hell and freaked us out.  People say it was completely stupid.  Yeah, probably.  But what would hybrid/clone Ripley's baby look like, if not something like this?  Brad Dourif getting his head eaten was pretty cool, too.  I mean, come on.  Entertainment value is where you find it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on October 01, 2014, 12:00:26 PM
Holy crap, John Wick looks cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0BMx-qxsP4

Looks like maybe Keanu got some acting lessons? I don't normally care much for him.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on October 01, 2014, 12:28:03 PM
So yeah I watched Audition a couple nights ago. I find I hate most horror movies I watch but this one was pretty awesome.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on October 01, 2014, 01:40:28 PM
Holy crap, John Wick looks cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0BMx-qxsP4

Looks like maybe Keanu got some acting lessons? I don't normally care much for him.


Fucks sake. It's that time of the evening where my internet is so fucking shit that it cant even load a 2 minute youtube video.

Do Ford finance Hollywood or something ? I'm sure that model Mustang is in 99% of all movies.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kwyjibo on October 02, 2014, 12:09:36 AM
It probably helps that we first saw Alien: Resurrection while smoking a whole lot of non-tobacco while my parents were gone for the weekend.  The hybrid baby at the end was creepy as all hell and freaked us out.  People say it was completely stupid.  Yeah, probably.  But what would hybrid/clone Ripley's baby look like, if not something like this?  Brad Dourif getting his head eaten was pretty cool, too.  I mean, come on.  Entertainment value is where you find it.

I should have tried that  ;) Because I saw it without any non-tobacco smoking. Not even alcohol was around and therefore I think that Alien:Resurrection was the biggest pile of shit I have ever seen. And the hybrid-baby? Come on, that scene was so totally cheesy and awful, I was just waiting for it to say Mommy and Ripley breaking out in tears and giving it a teddybear, or whatever alien babies like for toys. That way the movie might at least have worked as a comedy.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on October 02, 2014, 06:37:19 AM
Adam Sandler just signed a deal with Netlfix to make 4 exclusives.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on October 02, 2014, 07:15:13 AM
See, that's what I was talking about earlier.  It's a huge film, over 2.5 hours, and there's a lot to it.  It's not just more of the same, and it's not just the mindless action flick that many say it is.  It packs a lot of story, philosophy, action, and atmosphere into its run time.  It expands upon the original concept, and delivers pretty much on all levels as far as I'm concerned.  I'm a proud owner of the six-disc Blu-ray box (all four movies plus shitloads of extras) but it was mainly the first two movies, and mainly this one, that I wanted in Hi-Def.

Yeah, I'll own up to it here: Aliens is definitely a very dense film. Probably James Cameron's masterpiece. Well, it's either Aliens or Terminator 2: Judgement Day. I always recognized the stuff going on in T2. :biggrin:

Alien 3 is actually better than most people give it credit for...certainly not to the level of the first two, but not a bad film.

But wow!  What a train wreck Alien:Resurrection was.    :facepalm:   I went into the theater with pretty high hopes, but it was just really really bad...

I haven't seen the entirety of Alien 3, but I have listened to the soundtrack plenty of times and I think it's probably the best score in the Alien franchise. On the movie itself, I think it's a fitting epilogue to Ripley's journey, provided that you think of it more from the original film and not Aliens. It's a very nihilistic ending, so I tend to flip around in my mind as to whether or not I 'accept it' into my head-canon of the Alien universe. If I don't accept it, then the story ends with Aliens and Ripley makes it back home safely with Newt and Hicks as her new family. If I do accept it, then it ends with Ripley's death.

Either way, Alien Resurrection is never recognized in there. Win-win for me. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on October 02, 2014, 07:26:35 AM
I really like Alien 3, especially the Assembly Cut. IMO it's really good.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on October 02, 2014, 07:30:07 AM
t and Hicks as her new family. If I do accept it, then it ends with Ripley's death.

Either way, Alien Resurrection is never recognized in there. Win-win for me. :biggrin:

Well it's not Ripley in A:R it's a clone so it's still win win :P
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dream Team on October 02, 2014, 07:46:49 AM
In A:R there were a few good ideas that were poorly executed, and the xenos looked awful (no Winston or Geiger). Weaver was fantastic as always though.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on October 02, 2014, 07:47:22 AM
t and Hicks as her new family. If I do accept it, then it ends with Ripley's death.

Either way, Alien Resurrection is never recognized in there. Win-win for me. :biggrin:

Well it's not Ripley in A:R it's a clone so it's still win win :P

I'm fully aware that it's a clone in A:R. Doesn't change the fact that it's absolutely stupid, considering how she threw herself into an enormous cremator when she died in A3, so the chances of finding the DNA needed to clone her impregnated self is pretty much nil.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on October 02, 2014, 08:37:36 AM
Watched Primer last night.
This one came to me a bit hyped-up and I was not impressed. I get that it's trying to be realistic and that's effective, but you've got to be fucking kidding me with all the technical jargon. It's pompous and alienating to the viewer. I was scratching my head in the first few minutes and just annoyed. This never made the movie better or more enjoyable for me. It just made me say "Great, the filmmaker is an engineer. Congratu-fucking-lations." Again, I get that it's trying to be realistic but the acting was so devoid of emotion that I was bored, even while being confused. Impressive that such a low-budget movie came out this way. It was well done for sure, and it effectively does what it was trying to do... but that doesn't make it enjoyable.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on October 02, 2014, 09:20:28 AM
I really love the design of the aliens in Resurrection, AVP, and AVP2. Too bad that the movies themselves are crap.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The King in Crimson on October 02, 2014, 09:30:39 AM
I really like Alien 3, especially the Assembly Cut. IMO it's really good.
Alien 3 gets too much crap. It's not as great as the first two, but it really is not a bad movie. The worst part about it, IMO, is just how completely awful the alien looks in the movie. It looks incredibly fake in some shots.

Oh yeah, and killing off Newt and Hicks off-screen was bullshit too.

Watched Primer last night.
This one came to me a bit hyped-up and I was not impressed. I get that it's trying to be realistic and that's effective, but you've got to be fucking kidding me with all the technical jargon. It's pompous and alienating to the viewer. I was scratching my head in the first few minutes and just annoyed. This never made the movie better or more enjoyable for me. It just made me say "Great, the filmmaker is an engineer. Congratu-fucking-lations." Again, I get that it's trying to be realistic but the acting was so devoid of emotion that I was bored, even while being confused. Impressive that such a low-budget movie came out this way. It was well done for sure, and it effectively does what it was trying to do... but that doesn't make it enjoyable.
I didn't much care for Primer either but I honestly couldn't tell if it was because of the technobabble dialogue and my needing to watch it again (or several times) to catch everything or if it was because the novelty of the idea just wasn't enough to fuel such a movie. It certainly looked very good for how little money it cost to make but beyond that, far more interesting as an idea than the resulting execution.

Saw Lucy last night. It was pretty dumb but entertaining. I thought it was going to be much, much worse than it ended up being, but thankfully I did enjoy it. It reminded me a bit of Limitless except Limitless was boring and a rather stock action/thriller type film. It was a bit more grounded in reality but it didn't go anywhere interesting. Lucy is just straight up fantasy, but at least it has the balls to kinda do something interesting with the idea. Luc Besson also made sure that Lucy was at least interesting to watch. So yeah, dumb movie, but I was entertained by it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 02, 2014, 09:38:52 AM
I don't think Aliens is a "mindless" action film.  But it is an action film, first and foremost.  That was my only point.

Alien 3 was so bad that I never saw the fourth one.  I still distinctly remember a review of it by Peter David that had the headline, "Aliens 3, Fans 0."  I couldn't help but agree.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on October 02, 2014, 09:53:25 AM
I'm curious how much of the hate for Alien 3 comes from how they handled the continuation of Aliens. At least in my own experience, most of the people who dislike Alien 3 doesn't dislike it because it's a bad movie, but because of how they took the story forward, and how the movie started after the ending of Aliens. Sure, Aliens had a mostly happy ending (not counting the easter egg after the credits which kinda sets up the opening of Alien 3) and Alien 3 is a much more bleak movie. Don't get me wrong, there are several terrifying and haunting elements of Aliens, but Cameron has always been great at those "happy" endings. Even with the Terminator movies, they are dark but have a conclusion that will leave most people satisfied. Alien 3 is more bleak and dark, and IMO closer to the first. One of the things I loved was the fact that the alien felt scary again. Without weapons, the creature is much more intimidating, and in Aliens they were just slaughtered.

With that said, I would still probably rank Aliens and Alien over Alien 3, but IMO Alien 3 is almost as good as those two. On the same level basically.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on October 02, 2014, 10:05:42 AM
I don't think Aliens is a "mindless" action film.  But it is an action film, first and foremost.  That was my only point.

Alien 3 was so bad that I never saw the fourth one.  I still distinctly remember a review of it by Peter David that had the headline, "Aliens 3, Fans 0."  I couldn't help but agree.

I didn't mean to lump you in with those who consider Aliens to be "mindless".  My remark was more a response to that critique in general.  I've heard many times that it's just a shoot-em-up monster movie that just happens to use a creature from another movie, and I've always taken exception to that.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Outcrier on October 02, 2014, 11:07:11 AM
I'm curious how much of the hate for Alien 3 comes from how they handled the continuation of Aliens. At least in my own experience, most of the people who dislike Alien 3 doesn't dislike it because it's a bad movie, but because of how they took the story forward, and how the movie started after the ending of Aliens.

Think The Godfather trilogy, my dear Zantera. It is the exact same thing, a third movie that isn't exactly bad but doesn't compare to the quality of the first ones (that in the opinion of most fans).
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on October 02, 2014, 11:55:04 AM
I really like Alien 3, especially the Assembly Cut. IMO it's really good.
Alien 3 gets too much crap. It's not as great as the first two, but it really is not a bad movie. The worst part about it, IMO, is just how completely awful the alien looks in the movie. It looks incredibly fake in some shots.

Oh yeah, and killing off Newt and Hicks off-screen was bullshit too.

Watched Primer last night.
This one came to me a bit hyped-up and I was not impressed. I get that it's trying to be realistic and that's effective, but you've got to be fucking kidding me with all the technical jargon. It's pompous and alienating to the viewer. I was scratching my head in the first few minutes and just annoyed. This never made the movie better or more enjoyable for me. It just made me say "Great, the filmmaker is an engineer. Congratu-fucking-lations." Again, I get that it's trying to be realistic but the acting was so devoid of emotion that I was bored, even while being confused. Impressive that such a low-budget movie came out this way. It was well done for sure, and it effectively does what it was trying to do... but that doesn't make it enjoyable.
I didn't much care for Primer either but I honestly couldn't tell if it was because of the technobabble dialogue and my needing to watch it again (or several times) to catch everything or if it was because the novelty of the idea just wasn't enough to fuel such a movie. It certainly looked very good for how little money it cost to make but beyond that, far more interesting as an idea than the resulting execution.

Saw Lucy last night. It was pretty dumb but entertaining. I thought it was going to be much, much worse than it ended up being, but thankfully I did enjoy it. It reminded me a bit of Limitless except Limitless was boring and a rather stock action/thriller type film. It was a bit more grounded in reality but it didn't go anywhere interesting. Lucy is just straight up fantasy, but at least it has the balls to kinda do something interesting with the idea. Luc Besson also made sure that Lucy was at least interesting to watch. So yeah, dumb movie, but I was entertained by it.

I would also agree with your assessment of Primer. I was bored.

And interesting about Lucy... I kind of thought I'd hate it so I never sought it out, but maybe I will. Luc Besson does tend to make dumb/entertaining movies I can enjoy.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on October 02, 2014, 01:51:42 PM
I actually really appreciate that they didn't try to dumb down Primer and alter the dialog for us normal "dummies" who doesn't have a PhD in Math or Physics or whatever. To me, part of what made it feel more authentic, special and believable (as believable as a time travel movie can be) was the serious approach, and not knowing what they meant with certain phrases or calculations made it feel more genuine to me. In the context of the movie, it worked better for me going for the "Advanced calculations" approach with a lot of math stuff that I have no idea about myself, rather than going for something goofy or saying the time machine works "because reasons". It didn't come off as douche-y or the director flashing off that he knows more than us, to me it came off as someone trying to tackle the subject matter seriously, and at least giving an effort to create something close to a plausible reason for how time travel could work.

It really blew me away how low budget Primer was, because I don't think the movie could have been much better executed with a big budget. They really squeezed the maximum amount out of what they had, and created something nice and special.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on October 02, 2014, 02:10:37 PM
Alien 3 wasn't so bad. Sure the alien looks like crap due to the reliance of CGI, and killing off the bad ass Hicks was a stupid move, but I still like the movie. Imagine Hicks in that prison.

I hate resurrection. It completely threw out any atmosphere and tension and replaced it completely with stupid Hollywood macho posturing and people saying Fuck just to sound "badass". It was really bright and all the characters were awful.

Perfect description. I hate when movies over use swearing. I know people talk that way in real life, but most of the time the over acting and tough guy routine ruins it. It's like HBO and similar networks: "we can use hardcore cuss words, so let's overdo it!"


For some reason Scarface never bothered me though.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on October 02, 2014, 02:37:17 PM
I actually really appreciate that they didn't try to dumb down Primer and alter the dialog for us normal "dummies" who doesn't have a PhD in Math or Physics or whatever. To me, part of what made it feel more authentic, special and believable (as believable as a time travel movie can be) was the serious approach, and not knowing what they meant with certain phrases or calculations made it feel more genuine to me. In the context of the movie, it worked better for me going for the "Advanced calculations" approach with a lot of math stuff that I have no idea about myself, rather than going for something goofy or saying the time machine works "because reasons". It didn't come off as douche-y or the director flashing off that he knows more than us, to me it came off as someone trying to tackle the subject matter seriously, and at least giving an effort to create something close to a plausible reason for how time travel could work.

It really blew me away how low budget Primer was, because I don't think the movie could have been much better executed with a big budget. They really squeezed the maximum amount out of what they had, and created something nice and special.
Totally agree with everything said here. I also don't mind the fact the acting wasn't super emotional. They felt like what they were going for: a bunch of super serious nerds. ;) So basically all the stuff y'all hate is stuff that made me love it more. :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on October 03, 2014, 06:47:21 AM
Seeing Gone Girl tonight. :caffeine:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on October 03, 2014, 07:31:47 AM
Speaking of the Alien franchise, it seems that finally the Alien as a horror creature has found it's justice but not in movie form but in a game:

Quote from: About Alien: Isolation
This terrifying game is a passionate homage to a horror classic, and a rich, well-designed stealth experience in its own right. Giger’s monstrous alien is, for the first time in a video game, as formidable and menacing as it was in the films. It was brave of Sega to take a chance a game like this, where guns are a last resort, but their faith in The Creative Assembly’s vision has resulted in an unusually clever and subversive triple-A game.
As a big fan of the franchise and especially Alien this is some very awesome news!



Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 03, 2014, 10:46:15 AM
My daughter read about it in a video game magazine, and she knows nothing about the films, but wants the game.

Then we saw a commercial last night for it.  Looks intense.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on October 03, 2014, 04:58:59 PM
Gone Girl was amazing. Some buzz that it could be Fincher's best (even better than Se7en and Fight Club) and I think that's not a far off statement. Initial reaction aside, Affleck is amazing, Rosamund Pike should get an Oscar-nomination for her part, and the rest of the cast is great as well. I think the twists and turns will keep people interested, but as much as I loved the movie, I know the ending won't satisfy everyone. It reminded me a bit about Zodiac (if I were to compare it to another Fincher movie). Without giving too much away, once the movie ends, you're kinda sitting there wanting another 10 more minutes. It's not like the movie just ends out of nowhere, but I think it will surprise some people.

Still, probably the best 2014 movie I've seen this year.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: lucky7 on October 03, 2014, 05:38:49 PM
I would have to agree, I had read the book, so I was ready for the ending, although I did wonder if they would give it a Hollywood ending and change it but it was a really good adaptation.  Neil Patrick Harris was quite creepy.  But the leads were amazing.     
 First time I have seen Patrick Fugit since Almost Famous.
The author is writing a sequel so it will be interesting to see where the characters end up.  :corn
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on October 03, 2014, 09:17:06 PM
Wasn't Ben Affleck always criticized for his bad acting but got general praise as a director? He's a good actor now too? I never had a problem with him, but I thought he was always disliked as an actor.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on October 04, 2014, 02:36:33 AM
Wasn't Ben Affleck always criticized for his bad acting but got general praise as a director? He's a good actor now too? I never had a problem with him, but I thought he was always disliked as an actor.

Ever since he started directing, he improved as an actor as well. He was really good in The Town and Argo, and Gone Girl is probably his best performance yet.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on October 04, 2014, 02:43:24 AM
Ben Affleck never struck me as a bad actor. I thought he was great in Good Will Hunting, Sum of All Fears, and Dogma, along with the rest of the Kevin Smith films he was in. Then again, I think those are the only Affleck movies I've seen. Well, there's Pearl Harbor, but I pretty much disliked the majority of that movie anyway. Oh  yeah, and there's Armageddon, but that was a cheesefest from start to end.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: masterthes on October 04, 2014, 05:31:15 PM
Gone Girl was so good. I was a fan of the book so I was ready for the ending and actually seeing it on screen made me appreciate the ending better. Rosamund Pike should definitely get a nomination. She was fantastic (and scorching hot to boot)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on October 04, 2014, 09:03:13 PM
Just watched Upstream Color, and enjoyed it way more than Primer. Weird and confusing at times, but way more interesting. I found one part hard to stomach. The sound stuff was really cool. Still processing, but that's my initial reaction.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on October 05, 2014, 01:45:04 PM
Re-watched Oblivion. Still awesome, still feel like I'm part of a very small group of people who thinks that.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on October 05, 2014, 03:18:39 PM
I enjoy it to, thought it was cool.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on October 05, 2014, 03:39:41 PM
I liked Oblivion, but after seeing Moon (which was a much better film overall), I was shocked how much they stole from that movie and put into Oblivion. I mean, I know movies borrow from other movies all the time, but a lot of important plot points and key twists are re-used in Oblivion.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on October 05, 2014, 07:07:27 PM
That's lame. Haven't seen Oblivion but looove Moon.

Guys, my friend hosted an "Old School Heathen" meetup with all nun-themed movies today. First we watched SUOR OMICIDI, or THE KILLER NUN! Basically it's about a nun who works at a hospital and is losing her shit/addicted to morphine. There's murder and sex and all kinds of awesome. This was probably my favorite of the three.

Next was TO THE DEVIL...A DAUGHTER. It has Christopher Lee as a creepy satanic priest, and that's all you really need to know.

Last was LE SCOMUNICATE DE S. VALENTINO... or THE SINFUL NUNS OF ST. VALENTINE. This also has murder and nun sex in it... and the Inquisition.

All batshit crazy and very enjoyable. A good day.

Oh, and...

(https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10639535_10152685646992510_326085725236126474_n.jpg?oh=94758301224e4d5718e43aa53f25d6ab&oe=54B57234)

I brought communion wafers, and he made pasta in honor of the Italian movies. Good times!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on October 05, 2014, 08:14:26 PM
That's a good look for you. :zydar:

Were you just playing dress up for movie night? I've been totally confused seeing your pics on facebook.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on October 05, 2014, 08:17:31 PM
That body of Christ needs a waxing.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on October 05, 2014, 09:14:24 PM
Haven't seen Lebowski in a long time...it's on IFC now...   Forgot how much I absolutely LOVE this movie.


Honestly wish they didn't use the F-bomb as a comma, but...  It's still amazing.

EDIT:  I mean, do they have to use so many cuss words?  ;)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on October 06, 2014, 12:04:24 AM
That body of Christ needs a waxing.

 :rollin

That's a good look for you. :zydar:

Were you just playing dress up for movie night? I've been totally confused seeing your pics on facebook.

Why confused? I've dressed as a nun at least twice annually since college  :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on October 06, 2014, 03:13:39 AM
That body of Christ needs a waxing.

 :rollin

That's a good look for you. :zydar:

Were you just playing dress up for movie night? I've been totally confused seeing your pics on facebook.

Why confused? I've dressed as a nun at least twice annually since college  :lol

You're a weird guy, Ace. Weird guy.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on October 06, 2014, 05:41:06 PM
That was a very Adami thing to say.

May he rest in peace.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on October 07, 2014, 09:03:37 AM
Adami isn't dead. He just went home.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: cramx3 on October 07, 2014, 03:28:09 PM
Glad to see the positive reviews of Gone Girl.  I read the book so want to see the movie but hated the ending.  I was hoping the movie did a better job at it although I read they didnt change it.

I saw The Equalizer over the weekend.  It was pretty good, but reminded me too much of Man on Fire.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: faizoff on October 07, 2014, 09:08:29 PM
Re-watched Oblivion. Still awesome, still feel like I'm part of a very small group of people who thinks that.
Raises hand, infact bought the bluray. Great score, simple story yet intriguing was enough for me. Also Gone Girl was fantastic even though I had read the book (wish I hadn't)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MiracleSleeper on October 08, 2014, 06:13:29 PM
Black Swan

The feel good family film of the year! Lots of laughs guaranteed to put a smile on your face!

On a serious note... I'd give this a 9.5/10. Hauntingly powerful. I haven't watched this in years, and I totally forgot how disturbingly beautiful it is. Aronofsky's one of the few directors who can make you truly feel uncomfortable in your seat without resorting to horror gimmicks and unnecessary violence.

While my favorite film of his is "The Fountain" which is a softer film by his standards, Black Swan reprises a lot of the elements of "Requiem" which really make it shine. I felt as though "Noah", while a still a great film, lacked that inner turmoil that Aronofsky is so good at capturing. I feel as though he's more of an internal writer than external, which is one of the reasons I was a bit disappointed with Noah. But regardless, Black Swan is one of the reasons why Aronofsky stands as my second favorite director.

I'd rank em like this:

1- The Fountain (10)
2- Requiem For a Dream (10)
3- Black Swan (9.5)
4- Noah (9)
5- Pi (9)
6- The Wrestler (8.5) (I will admit, I haven't seen it since it's release. So I do owe this one another viewing in order to give it a proper ranking)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Accelerando on October 08, 2014, 09:58:11 PM
Black Swan
 Aronofsky's one of the few directors who can make you truly feel uncomfortable in your seat without resorting to horror gimmicks and unnecessary violence.

Nailed it. Thats's why he's one of my favorites.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MiracleSleeper on October 08, 2014, 10:18:05 PM
Black Swan
 Aronofsky's one of the few directors who can make you truly feel uncomfortable in your seat without resorting to horror gimmicks and unnecessary violence.

Nailed it. Thats's why he's one of my favorites.
Unfortunately, many people don't enjoy feeling uncomfortable when they watch a movie. I personally love it. It's such a rare feeling to have when watching a film, and it really creates an incredible experience.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on October 09, 2014, 08:51:26 AM
Agreed. Fucking love Aronofsky. Haven't seen Noah yet but have heard very mixed reviews. Interesting that you ranked it above Pi! I also need to re-watch the Wrestler as I haven't seen it since theatres.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on October 09, 2014, 08:54:09 AM
Black Swan
 Aronofsky's one of the few directors who can make you truly feel uncomfortable in your seat without resorting to horror gimmicks and unnecessary violence.

Nailed it. Thats's why he's one of my favorites.

I myself have only seen Black Swan out of Aronofsky's works, but I've been meaning to check out The Fountain and Requiem for a Dream sometime soon. He's definitely one of more intelligent directors out there right now.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on October 09, 2014, 09:07:36 AM
Adami isn't dead. He just went home.

Was that the guy who started like a thousand threads and eventually asked to be banned?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on October 09, 2014, 09:29:06 PM
Adami isn't dead. He just went home.

Was that the guy who started like a thousand threads and eventually asked to be banned?

No, that was Aniland or some shit. Adami is/was one of the coolest MFers around these parts. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on October 10, 2014, 01:45:29 AM
Adami isn't dead. He just went home.
(https://puu.sh/c6A1r/377b73fa0f.jpg)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on October 10, 2014, 07:21:53 AM
:tup
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on October 10, 2014, 05:34:54 PM
Still the worst, most contrived and forced joke of the movie. Hate it so much.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: lucky7 on October 10, 2014, 06:46:55 PM
Has anyone seen the new Kevin Smith film Tusk?  It has a very limited release here in Australia, so rather than drive an hour to the cinema showing it I would love to hear from anyone who may have seen it?  :smiley:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on October 10, 2014, 08:13:09 PM
Still the worst, most contrived and forced joke of the movie. Hate it so much.

I thought it was funny.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on October 10, 2014, 08:18:40 PM
Still the worst, most contrived and forced joke of the movie. Hate it so much.

I thought it was funny.
Same. I really love the first movie overall.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on October 10, 2014, 08:35:44 PM
Still the worst, most contrived and forced joke of the movie. Hate it so much.

I thought it was funny.

It makes no sense. Why would J even ask that question other than to set up the Elvis is an alien joke? How is Elvis being dead relevant? Poorly written scene.

That's the only part of the movie I don't like.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The King in Crimson on October 10, 2014, 09:20:06 PM
Has anyone seen the new Kevin Smith film Tusk?  It has a very limited release here in Australia, so rather than drive an hour to the cinema showing it I would love to hear from anyone who may have seen it?  :smiley:
I went to go see it with some friends last week. Yahoo movies said Tusk was playing at the theater we went to, but when we got there, it was no longer playing so we saw Lucy instead. :p

I wanted to see it, but it's just not playing anywhere close to where I live in the US and I don't really want to drive an hour to see it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on October 10, 2014, 10:16:27 PM
Still the worst, most contrived and forced joke of the movie. Hate it so much.

I thought it was funny.

It makes no sense. Why would J even ask that question other than to set up the Elvis is an alien joke? How is Elvis being dead relevant? Poorly written scene.

That's the only part of the movie I don't like.
Sure, that scene was written specifically for that joke, but it didn't seem implausible that Jay would say that in that setting.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on October 10, 2014, 10:37:50 PM
Still the worst, most contrived and forced joke of the movie. Hate it so much.

I thought it was funny.

It makes no sense. Why would J even ask that question other than to set up the Elvis is an alien joke? How is Elvis being dead relevant? Poorly written scene.

That's the only part of the movie I don't like.
Sure, that scene was written specifically for that joke, but it didn't seem implausible that Jay would say that in that setting.

In what way wasn't it implausible? Because he was associating K's crazy behavior and the crazy situation with the notion that because K was acting crazy that he might think that Elvis was still alive?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on October 10, 2014, 11:01:03 PM
Still the worst, most contrived and forced joke of the movie. Hate it so much.

I thought it was funny.

It makes no sense. Why would J even ask that question other than to set up the Elvis is an alien joke? How is Elvis being dead relevant? Poorly written scene.

That's the only part of the movie I don't like.

K has just popped in an Elvis tape and is jamming to it, while driving upside-down.  It's from Elvis's country period, and J is clearly annoyed, besides being uncomfortable because he didn't fasten his seat belt when K told him to, so he says something he hopes will pop K's bubble.  "You know Elvis is dead, right?"  He wasn't asking out of curiosity; he was just being a dick, but K knows the truth and threw it back in J's face without blinking.  That scene showed something of J's personality and K's personality, as well as continued to build up the mythology that many extraordinary people from history were actually aliens, which was established earlier in the film.  I didn't even think it was a joke so much as it was funny because of how it played out.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Accelerando on October 11, 2014, 12:46:13 AM
So Universal is rebooting their classic monsters based on the Marvel Cinematic Universe formula. So I checked out Dracula Untold tonight, which is suppose to launch this new campaign. The level of seriousness that should be taken with this movie is that of Hugh Jackman's Van Helsing. It felt like a superhero flick more than a horror, Vampire flick. I hope this isn't the route they are going to have with Frankenstein and The Mummy.  There's nothing to get excited about with Dracula Untold other than what's going to happen from here with this universe.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 11, 2014, 12:48:25 AM
I'll just stick to the classics from the 1930s/40s. :blob:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on October 11, 2014, 02:39:07 AM
The shared universe idea is great if we're talking Super heroes, because it works well with being able to team them up and fight big threats, but how do you even have a shared universe with monsters? To me it just feels kinda silly. Frankenstein vs Mummy vs Dracula?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 11, 2014, 03:50:53 AM
So Universal is rebooting their classic monsters based on the Marvel Cinematic Universe formula. So I checked out Dracula Untold tonight, which is suppose to launch this new campaign. The level of seriousness that should be taken with this movie is that of Hugh Jackman's Van Helsing. It felt like a superhero flick more than a horror, Vampire flick. I hope this isn't the route they are going to have with Frankenstein and The Mummy.  There's nothing to get excited about with Dracula Untold other than what's going to happen from here with this universe.
The way that I understand it, this "shared universe" concept wasn't hatched until production on this film was almost done; it wasn't filmed with the intention of being the launching point for any such thing, but was apparently shoehorned into it very late in the game.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 11, 2014, 03:52:45 AM
The shared universe idea is great if we're talking Super heroes, because it works well with being able to team them up and fight big threats, but how do you even have a shared universe with monsters? To me it just feels kinda silly. Frankenstein vs Mummy vs Dracula?

What, you've never seen Frankenstein Meets The Wolfman, or House of Frankenstein, or House of Dracula? :lol

I really don't see a shared universe of monsters as any sillier than a shared universe of superheroes, I'd say less silly if done properly. I don't get the feeling this is going to be very good though. I'm not into the whole bundling idea anyway, it just seems desperate to me.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on October 11, 2014, 06:20:03 AM
Alien VS Predator VS Batman


:neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on October 11, 2014, 07:12:50 AM
Alien VS Predator VS Batman


:neverusethis:

I would pay money to see that. What they really should do is like the ultimate showdown between all the badasses.

Alien VS Godzilla VS Batman VS Sharknado
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on October 11, 2014, 08:19:17 AM
Speaking of Alien vs. Predator, I recently watched that director's early "masterpiece," ( :lol ) Event Horizon. By god, that was a painful movie to get through. Yuck.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The King in Crimson on October 11, 2014, 09:03:12 AM
Speaking of Alien vs. Predator, I recently watched that director's early "masterpiece," ( :lol ) Event Horizon. By god, that was a painful movie to get through. Yuck.
Great idea. Questionable execution.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: ozzy554 on October 11, 2014, 09:36:11 AM
Speaking of Alien vs. Predator, I recently watched that director's early "masterpiece," ( :lol ) Event Horizon. By god, that was a painful movie to get through. Yuck.

I fall into the crowd that loves that movie. I hope one day they release the original cut of the movie which was found on a vhs a few years ago.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on October 11, 2014, 09:38:31 AM
Speaking of Alien vs. Predator, I recently watched that director's early "masterpiece," ( :lol ) Event Horizon. By god, that was a painful movie to get through. Yuck.
Great idea. Questionable execution.

Exactly! I actually really thought the idea of the film was brilliant, but it was handled so incredibly sloppy!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on October 11, 2014, 10:42:50 AM
Speaking of Alien vs. Predator, I recently watched that director's early "masterpiece," ( :lol ) Event Horizon. By god, that was a painful movie to get through. Yuck.

I fall into the crowd that loves that movie. I hope one day they release the original cut of the movie which was found on a vhs a few years ago.
Yea me to, I loved that movie or I atleast did when I saw it. Haven't seen it in aeons. The Cube was another one I saw basically at the same time.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The King in Crimson on October 11, 2014, 11:42:17 AM
Speaking of Alien vs. Predator, I recently watched that director's early "masterpiece," ( :lol ) Event Horizon. By god, that was a painful movie to get through. Yuck.

I fall into the crowd that loves that movie. I hope one day they release the original cut of the movie which was found on a vhs a few years ago.
Yea me to, I loved that movie or I atleast did when I saw it. Haven't seen it in aeons. The Cube was another one I saw basically at the same time.
I saw it when it first came out and thought it was deliciously creepy. I watched it again a few months ago and... it did not hold up well at all.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on October 11, 2014, 12:00:46 PM
I still like Event Horizon and the Cube. Cube 2 was crap and Cube Zero was pretty good.

Event Horizon is Paul WS Anderson's only decent movie. Everything else he's done has been absolute shit.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on October 11, 2014, 12:36:21 PM
I watched The Cube like one or two years ago, and while it was pretty neat for a smaller budget movie, it didn't hold up very well effect-wise, which might not be surprising considering the budget. The little I saw from the sequels (I've caught glimpses on TV) they seemed basically like doing it all over again, but not with an enough interesting twist. I think it was the third one which served as a prequel to try to explain the idea behind it, but it ended on a bit of a cliffhanger from what I remember and didn't leave much of a mark.

I feel like The Cube is one of those movies that could benefit a lot from a remake though. They remake almost all movies these days, and the concept behind The Cube is pretty neat, and if you find someone creative, you can come up with a lot of neat traps for the different rooms, and with today's budget, even a low budget horror film today can pull off a lot of stuff that low budget 90's horror movies could only dream of. And The Cube also isn't classic enough that it would be blasphemy to remake it.

Come to think of it, The Cube kinda reminds me a bit of Saw, which of course came later. The idea of different traps and how to get out of them, only in a much cooler and interesting environment.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on October 11, 2014, 12:55:26 PM
The Cube was more about the people though and how they interact with each other due to their different backgrounds.

If it was made today with a big budget - it would throw all that away and be a cookie cutter slasher movie with emphasis on the gore.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on October 11, 2014, 01:13:40 PM
I still like Event Horizon and the Cube. Cube 2 was crap and Cube Zero was pretty good.

Event Horizon is Paul WS Anderson's only decent movie. Everything else he's done has been absolute shit.

While I think the concept of Event Horizon was brilliant and generally had some great cinematography in the film, it was ultimately a really annoying film. It had a ton of foreboding, but nothing in the film was really 'scary' for me, not even Jason Isaacs' gruesome demise. Hell, the attempted suicide earlier in the film was the closest thing the film had to a legitimate scary moment for me.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: orcus116 on October 11, 2014, 01:17:37 PM
Saw Dallas Buyer's Club last night. Pretty damn good.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Tick on October 11, 2014, 01:21:48 PM
Anyone see Annabelle?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on October 11, 2014, 01:31:59 PM
Anyone see Annabelle?

That movie looks like the personification of " generic ".
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on October 11, 2014, 02:30:00 PM
Has anyone seen the new Kevin Smith film Tusk?  It has a very limited release here in Australia, so rather than drive an hour to the cinema showing it I would love to hear from anyone who may have seen it?  :smiley:

Honestly, I haven't seen it yet but from what I've heard/read it doesn't seem worth an hour drive. It looks fucking ridiculous. I generally like Smith and will probably end up seeing it, but maybe on DVD.

Alien VS Predator VS Batman


:neverusethis:

I would pay money to see that. What they really should do is like the ultimate showdown between all the badasses.

Alien VS Godzilla VS Batman VS Sharknado

:hefdaddy

Saw Dallas Buyer's Club last night. Pretty damn good.

So good!

I watched Mystic Pizza last night. Cute chick flick. I love Lili Taylor. And a very young Matt Damon's in it for about 15 seconds! Turns out it was his first role. I almost didn't recognize him.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The King in Crimson on October 11, 2014, 02:45:08 PM
Has anyone seen the new Kevin Smith film Tusk?  It has a very limited release here in Australia, so rather than drive an hour to the cinema showing it I would love to hear from anyone who may have seen it?  :smiley:

Honestly, I haven't seen it yet but from what I've heard/read it doesn't seem worth an hour drive. It looks fucking ridiculous. I generally like Smith and will probably end up seeing it, but maybe on DVD
It does look ridiculous, but it's Kevin Smith. I'm willing to give ridiculous a shot for some Kevin Smith even though Red State was pretty shitty.

I'll probably end up seeing it when it shows up on Netflix which, judging by the incredibly limited theatrical run, should be in a few weeks.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on October 11, 2014, 03:10:02 PM
Anyone see Annabelle?

That movie looks like the personification of " generic ".
Agreed. I saw the trailer and I'm pretty sure every bad cliche in the history of horror movies is to be found in the trailer alone.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on October 11, 2014, 03:15:00 PM
I like the phrase " cattle prod cinema ".

Because that's all these films are..

Silence...silence..MASSIVE LOUD NOISE.

It's not clever it's just cheap.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on October 11, 2014, 03:29:39 PM
I thought The Conjuring was pretty mediocre tbh. I know some hailed it as being the return to great horror, but in my opinion it was just decent. Sure, better than many other modern mainstream horror movies, but still only okay. Annabelle looks like a C-version of that, so I'm not hopeful. That combined with mostly negative reviews.. I probably won't bother with it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dimitrius on October 11, 2014, 03:30:14 PM
The last two nights I watched Clerks and Clerks 2 for the very first time.

I don't know why I hadn't seen more Kevin Smith films before, I'd seen Dogma years ago and Zack and Miri, but now I'm making a concerted effort to go through his View Askewniverse.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on October 11, 2014, 03:34:41 PM
You must see Mallrats and Chasing Amy!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on October 11, 2014, 03:35:38 PM
You must see Mallrats and Chasing Amy!

For me, Mallrats is a poor effort but Chasing Amy is fantastic.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The King in Crimson on October 11, 2014, 03:47:06 PM
Clerks, Dogma, and Jay and Silent Bob are my favorites. Clerks is a bonafide classic.

I haven't seen Chasing Amy in years. Will have to revisit it sometime but I really liked it when I saw it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dimitrius on October 11, 2014, 04:06:32 PM
You must see Mallrats and Chasing Amy!
Yeah, Mallrats is up next after a re-watch of Dogma.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on October 11, 2014, 04:47:28 PM
I like the phrase " cattle prod cinema ".

Because that's all these films are..

Silence...silence..MASSIVE LOUD NOISE.

It's not clever it's just cheap.
Totally agree. Jumpscares are the lamest. Horror movies should be able to frighten without them.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on October 11, 2014, 04:55:43 PM
And " Inspired by True Events ! "

When really they've taken maybe one of the characters names from a bit of an odd local urban legend and 99% of the film is made up.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on October 11, 2014, 05:26:45 PM
Mallrats was my first Kevin Smith so it has a lot of sentimental value, but it's also just hilarious on its own.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: lucky7 on October 11, 2014, 06:17:10 PM
I remember hearing years ago when video stores were everywhere that Clerks was one of the most stolen releases.

Have been a fan of Kevin Smith since Clerks, although Cop out or whatever it was called has not made it into my collection.
Red State was a little different and in parts hard to watch but John Goodman was great (as usual)

I probably will wait......I will probably go and see The Judge instead.

I loved The Conjuring I got a few scares, but overall the performances from all the actors were quite decent. I hate creepy dolls so even though Annabelle has crap reviews....I think I will see it at the cinemas....sometimes horror is best seen at theatres.

Looking forward to Horrible Bosses 2....I hope Kevin Spacey (my fave actor) has a good chunk of time on screen.  :smiley:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on October 11, 2014, 06:30:55 PM
Still the worst, most contrived and forced joke of the movie. Hate it so much.

I thought it was funny.

It makes no sense. Why would J even ask that question other than to set up the Elvis is an alien joke? How is Elvis being dead relevant? Poorly written scene.

That's the only part of the movie I don't like.

K has just popped in an Elvis tape and is jamming to it, while driving upside-down.  It's from Elvis's country period, and J is clearly annoyed, besides being uncomfortable because he didn't fasten his seat belt when K told him to, so he says something he hopes will pop K's bubble.  "You know Elvis is dead, right?"  He wasn't asking out of curiosity; he was just being a dick, but K knows the truth and threw it back in J's face without blinking.  That scene showed something of J's personality and K's personality, as well as continued to build up the mythology that many extraordinary people from history were actually aliens, which was established earlier in the film.  I didn't even think it was a joke so much as it was funny because of how it played out.

It's a little better when explained like that, but it's still a forced Elvis is an alien joke.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on October 11, 2014, 10:45:13 PM
I guess I don't see why you consider it forced, or even a joke.  Dennis Rodman is an alien.  J's English teacher was an alien.  That's the reality of the world created in the movie.  K wasn't making a joke, he was just explaining something.

To me, "forced" is when the situation is completely contrived, everything set up just for the joke, and done so in a way that is pretty obvious.  That's not what's going on here, at least not how I saw it.  If you didn't think it was funny, or felt that it was forced, then that's your opinion and I'm not going to change it, but I had no problem at all with the scene.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 12, 2014, 04:51:00 AM
I agree with Orbert.  There are lots of gripes to be had about this film, but this isn't one of them.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on October 12, 2014, 10:01:45 AM
Of course you agree with Orbert.

And I wasn't implying that K was making a joke, but that the movie was.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on October 12, 2014, 10:21:23 AM
I can't quite understand how this discussion has gone on so long about a throwaway comment. :P
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on October 12, 2014, 10:28:13 AM
So I got to go to an early screening of Fury last night! :biggrin: I got nervous at the last minute, when I realized that it was being made by the same guy who made my most hated movie of the year (Sabotage), but it turned out to be for naught.

I really enjoyed the film, though I don't know if I'd recommend it to everyone. It's very slow and moody. In fact, I don't know if I'd really call it a 'war film.' I mean, it is one, but it really didn't feel like one. It actually came off more to me like an apocalyptic drama of sorts. The sets of the invaded Germany are pretty much ruins. There's this constant feeling of dread and doom through out the film and you really get the sense that no one is coming out of the movie alive.

My dad went in expecting a war film and while he liked it too, he felt some of the action parts were too unbelievable for him as someone with a military history, because the war was ultimately a backdrop for serious drama. It worked for me, because I just didn't see it as a war film anyway.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on October 12, 2014, 03:36:02 PM
I can't quite understand how this discussion has gone on so long about a throwaway comment. :P

Because no one agrees with me. *runs to room stomping feet*
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MiracleSleeper on October 12, 2014, 09:54:22 PM
Gone Girl

Just got back from my first viewing. An awesome film, although I would have enjoyed it a lot more if I hadn't of predicted the damn plot twist weeks ahead of time, lol.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on October 13, 2014, 01:13:34 AM
Lucy was entertaining, but once you start thinking about it, it's the stupidest shit ever. Oh and the ending was lame. Still entertaining though.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Obfuscation on October 13, 2014, 01:28:47 AM
Yo, can somebody watch "Kes" please and let me know what you think about it?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on October 14, 2014, 01:13:28 AM
Just watched Mighty Ducks 1 and 2. Average feel-good "nobodies turn into champs" story, but the kids made it. Great personalities and great comedic timing from all of them.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Accelerando on October 14, 2014, 01:22:30 AM
Aww yeah, The Mighty Ducks! One of my favorite movies as a kid

"This is your Bar Mitzvah, Goldberg. Today, you become a man."

"No. I think you've got the ceremonies mixed up. This is more like a Circumcision."
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on October 14, 2014, 01:23:33 AM
:lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on October 14, 2014, 07:08:44 AM
Mighty Ducks 3 always bugged me. Why was Team USA, the team who defeated Iceland, only good enough for JV hockey?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 14, 2014, 07:28:34 AM
I never liked any of those movies.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on October 14, 2014, 07:29:16 AM
I watched Love and Theft last night. That was the first Woody Allen movie I've ever seen.... absolutely brilliant.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 14, 2014, 09:50:16 AM
Great article (https://variety.com/2014/film/news/bill-murray-st-vincent-1201328900/) on Bill Fucking Murray.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on October 15, 2014, 02:22:36 AM
Teaser poster:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bz8qhiYCYAEHhDL.jpg)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: lucky7 on October 15, 2014, 03:52:38 AM
^^Looking forward to it.....although Michael Crichton ( my fave. author) has since passed away so it will be interesting to see who writes the new script or whether they are just recycling the original movie.

I saw Annabelle earlier today...wasn't expecting it to be great as I had read all the media reviews.  It was okay....
*****small spoiler*****Let's just say their special effects budget was zero dollars... the doll does nothing.....you keep expecting her head or at least eyes to move but nothing happens.
I love a good scare...and although a couple of scenes you expect something, it doesn't eventuate.
It was food enough to pass a couple of hours with some free tickets!  :corn
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on October 15, 2014, 06:08:11 AM
I'm really hoping Jurassic World turns out to be good. I haven't read up on it much. Does it take place in the future or something? Have Dinosaurs spread across the globe? What about the lysine contingency?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Outcrier on October 15, 2014, 06:47:30 AM
I watched Love and Theft Death last night. That was the first Woody Allen movie I've ever seen.... absolutely brilliant.

FTFY
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on October 15, 2014, 07:02:01 AM
I watched Love and Theft Death last night. That was the first Woody Allen movie I've ever seen.... absolutely brilliant.

FTFY

 :rollin

Thanks. The title makes way more sense to me now.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Outcrier on October 15, 2014, 07:55:38 AM
Make your next priority to watch Annie Hall and Manhattan  ;)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on October 15, 2014, 10:17:29 AM
I just watched John Carpenter's The Thing for the first time. :hefdaddy Woah, that was a great film.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Outcrier on October 15, 2014, 10:29:18 AM
I just watched John Carpenter's The Thing for the first time. :hefdaddy Woah, that was a great film.

Yeah, one of the finest movies ever made  :tup
Incredible how it manages to be creepy even today, 32 years later.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on October 15, 2014, 10:52:22 AM
I just watched John Carpenter's The Thing for the first time. :hefdaddy Woah, that was a great film.

Yeah, one of the finest movies ever made  :tup
Incredible how it manages to be creepy even today, 32 years later.

No kidding. There was stuff in that film that was downright disturbing! Gave me some shivers!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 15, 2014, 10:58:27 AM
I just watched John Carpenter's The Thing for the first time. :hefdaddy Woah, that was a great film.
One of my favorites from that time period.  Fantastic.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on October 15, 2014, 11:24:51 AM
Make your next priority to watch Annie Hall and Manhattan  ;)

Love Annie Hall.

I just watched John Carpenter's The Thing for the first time. :hefdaddy Woah, that was a great film.

That movie still scares the crap out of me.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on October 15, 2014, 11:27:50 AM
Apparently DC's movie-plan through 2020 has been released:

    “Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice,” directed by Zack Snyder (2016)
    “Suicide Squad,” directed by David Ayer (2016)
    “Wonder Woman,” starring Gal Gadot (2017)
    “Justice League Part One,” directed by Zack Snyder, with Ben Affleck, Henry Cavill, and Amy Adams
    “The Flash,” starring Ezra Miller (2018)
    “Aquaman,” starring Jason Momoa (2018)
    “Shazam” (2019)
    “Justice League Part Two,” directed by Zack Snyder (2019)
    “Cyborg,” starring Ray Fisher (2020)
    “Green Lantern” (2020)

I can't help getting the feeling that this is very desperate. Inevitable, but desperate. Hopefully it'll still be enjoyable enough.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on October 15, 2014, 11:32:57 AM
I look at it as "About Time" DC got their act together.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 15, 2014, 02:01:44 PM
Apparently DC's movie-plan through 2020 has been released:

    “Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice,” directed by Zack Snyder (2016)
    “Suicide Squad,” directed by David Ayer (2016)
    “Wonder Woman,” starring Gal Gadot (2017)
    “Justice League Part One,” directed by Zack Snyder, with Ben Affleck, Henry Cavill, and Amy Adams
    “The Flash,” starring Ezra Miller (2018)
    “Aquaman,” starring Jason Momoa (2018)
    “Shazam” (2019)
    “Justice League Part Two,” directed by Zack Snyder (2019)
    “Cyborg,” starring Ray Fisher (2020)
    “Green Lantern” (2020)

I can't help getting the feeling that this is very desperate. Inevitable, but desperate. Hopefully it'll still be enjoyable enough.
I hope they are better than Man of Steel.  But since Zack Snyder appears to be this universe's prime mover, somehow I doubt these films will reach the bar that Marvel has set.

But I hope for the best.  I have a lot of love for most of these characters.  Although why the Suicide Squad needs a film I have no idea.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on October 15, 2014, 02:25:44 PM
Yeah with Zach Snyder behind the wheel for the big main chunk of the ride, I'm not getting my hopes up. His remake of Dawn of the Dead was superb, but nothing he has made since has wowed me. I'll go in expecting to be entertained, but nothing that will stay with me for too long afterwards, and as long as it reaches that level, I'm OK with it. Best scenario is them taking up the fight with Marvel, but that won't happen.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 15, 2014, 02:33:21 PM
I guess I just wish it was happening more organically than it is.  Now, if BM vs. SM is a flop, they will look awful and have to revise or maybe even cancel the whole slate, which I don't want to see happen.  But what can you do?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Jaffa on October 15, 2014, 09:55:29 PM
Ezra Miller as The Flash?  Interesting.  I'm not sure how I feel about that.  Is it confirmed?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 16, 2014, 06:12:09 AM
Ezra Miller as The Flash?  Interesting.  I'm not sure how I feel about that.  Is it confirmed?
Yeah, apparently so.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on October 16, 2014, 12:28:06 PM
Ezra Miller as The Flash?  Interesting.  I'm not sure how I feel about that.  Is it confirmed?
Yeah, apparently so.
Maybe since Marvel made Thor a woman, DC figured they'd do the same with The Flash.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on October 16, 2014, 01:24:29 PM
Ezra Miller as The Flash?  Interesting.  I'm not sure how I feel about that.  Is it confirmed?
Yeah, apparently so.
Maybe since Marvel made Thor a woman, DC figured they'd do the same with The Flash.

 :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on October 16, 2014, 04:12:44 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Accelerando on October 16, 2014, 08:17:46 PM
Apparently Tom Hardy and Will Smith are in talks to star in the Suicide Squad movie. Tom Hardy would make a badass Deadshot
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jingle.boy on October 16, 2014, 10:38:12 PM
Feels forced and contrived just to keep up with Marvel.  Again, I'll go back to the Marvel article from Bloomberg a few months back, and it brilliantly tells how Fiege put together - slowly and meticulously - the plans to get Marvel where they are today.  I just don't get that sense from DC/Warner Bros.  They missed the boat by at least 3 years, and are now scrambling to catchup.  How can you plan for a movie 4 years from now (Aquaman) and know the star you plan to use?  Or know what director is going to do something 6 years from now?  To publicly announce this seems extremely risky - there's nothing but downside to it;  If they follow the schedule and everything clicks, great... they would've clicked with or without this public announcement.  If things don't go as planned, and they drop, change or alter course, they'll be ridiculed for announcing 6 year strategy that failed.

I dunno, I just have zero optimism for this, whereas I have complete faith that Marvel Studios will continue to wow me.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on October 16, 2014, 11:07:01 PM
I feel exactly the same way.  Marvel's movies are kicking ass, and it seems like DC finally woke up and realized that they had to play catch-up, so they're scrambling and trying to look cool with this, but I just don't it happening.  There will be changes along the way, so why even tip your hand?  There's no upside to it, only potential for downside.  Okay, I guess the idea is to build excitement up or something, but where are the stars?  Ben Affleck?  Amy Adams?  Ezra Miller?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 17, 2014, 06:06:52 AM
Um, Ben Affleck and Amy Adams are big names.

I dunno Who the fuck Ezra Miller is, but he is apparently seen as an up-and-coming star.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on October 17, 2014, 06:22:31 AM
You have to remember that most of the Marvel "stars" were far from stars when they signed on for their roles. Did any of you know Chris Hemsworth? Robert Downey Jr had done some great roles, but he was far from that status after a lot of problems with drugs, and Chris Evans was mostly known for starring in the spectacular Fantastic Four movies. Sure, they have sprinkled in some more famous names (like Samuel L Jackson) in the smaller roles, but for the most part, we know these actors through their superhero roles.

And I think that's good. I like it when they get someone who isn't strongly connected with a few roles already, because it gives the character a unique face on its own, rather than "oh its that guy who played character X in movie Y".
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on October 17, 2014, 10:27:26 AM
Um, Ben Affleck and Amy Adams are big names.

I dunno Who the fuck Ezra Miller is, but he is apparently seen as an up-and-coming star.

Affleck was a big name, but has mostly directed lately.  Is he getting back into acting?  I mean, I like him, but I'm not quite to the "Wow, a Justice League movie starring Ben Affleck!" level.

I like Amy Adams too, and I guess she currently qualifies as a big star.  So I guess we're now up to "Wow, in three or four years, there will be a Justice League movie starring Ben Affleck and Amy Adams!"

And I too wouldn't know Ezra Miller from some bum in the street, but yeah, I've heard name a bit lately.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dimitrius on October 17, 2014, 10:48:30 AM
Affleck was a big name, but has mostly directed lately.  Is he getting back into acting?
Getting back? He hasn't left! He's practically been the star of the movies he's directed! :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on October 17, 2014, 11:06:36 AM
Ah, I didn't realize that.  I've heard a lot about how great the movies are that he's directed, and some people say that he's definitely a better director than actor, though that's obviously even more subjective than the first statement, so I guess I thought that that was his focus these days.

(Still can't get too excited about a movie that's planned for three years from now, though, no matter who's supposed to be in it.)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 17, 2014, 11:12:48 AM
I would a lot more excited about these films if Affleck was directing them instead of Snyder.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on October 17, 2014, 11:16:31 AM
I just realized, if it's a Justice League movie with Amy Adams, does that mean she's supposed to be Wonder Woman?  I think Amy's adorable, but I just don't see her as Wonder Woman.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Outcrier on October 17, 2014, 11:18:24 AM
    “Wonder Woman,” starring Gal Gadot (2017)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dimitrius on October 17, 2014, 11:21:03 AM
I just realized, if it's a Justice League movie with Amy Adams, does that mean she's supposed to be Wonder Woman?  I think Amy's adorable, but I just don't see her as Wonder Woman.
She's Lois Lane.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on October 17, 2014, 11:36:00 AM
    “Wonder Woman,” starring Gal Gadot (2017)

What, you expect me to read the whole list?!

Also, who is Gal Gadot?  Just some gal?   Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!





Ha ha ha!




Ha.




She's Lois Lane.

Oh.  Okay then.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Outcrier on October 17, 2014, 11:40:37 AM
    “Wonder Woman,” starring Gal Gadot (2017)

What, you expect me to read the whole list?!

Yep  :P
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 17, 2014, 11:58:17 AM
I just realized, if it's a Justice League movie with Amy Adams, does that mean she's supposed to be Wonder Woman?  I think Amy's adorable, but I just don't see her as Wonder Woman.
She's Lois Lane, just like she was in Man of Steel, for which this is a sequel (of sorts).
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on October 17, 2014, 12:02:29 PM
Bob, you disappoint me.  I thought your knowledge of sexy woman transcended for decades.   :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on October 17, 2014, 12:09:10 PM
Hey, I like Amy a lot.  She's a babe.  But I won't watch a movie just because certain actors or actresses are in it, and I heard Man of Steel sucked, so I never bothered.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 17, 2014, 12:10:47 PM
I don't blame you.  I don't think it completely sucked, but it definitely was unsatisfying.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on October 17, 2014, 12:24:34 PM
I don't blame you.  I don't think it completely sucked, but it definitely was unsatisfying.

Compared to the one before, Superman Returns, Man Of Steel was way better.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on October 17, 2014, 12:29:30 PM
I remember now hearing that she was Lois Lane in that movie, but had forgotten, and didn't associate it with this list of DC movies. 

Obviously it needed something to make it more memorable.  I'm thinking maybe a scene from Clark Kent's point of view as he checks Lois out with his x-ray vision adjusted to "textiles only", something like that.  Or maybe she gets a chance to do some "investigative reporting" and see if he is truly a man of steel.

Aw, who am I kidding?  I'd just check out those scenes on the Internet, still wouldn't watch the movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on October 17, 2014, 12:35:23 PM





Spoilers for those who care.



















They changed the storyline a bit and she does investigate and find's out who he really is.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on October 17, 2014, 01:28:08 PM
So I just watched The Boy in the Striped Pajamas.... Holy fuck that was depressing. Really good movie though. A lot of content to fit into 90 minutes. That would have made a great 3 or 4 part mini series.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on October 17, 2014, 05:09:41 PM
I don't blame you.  I don't think it completely sucked, but it definitely was unsatisfying.

Compared to the one before, Superman Returns, Man Of Steel was way better.

Completely disagree.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on October 17, 2014, 05:11:33 PM
I don't blame you.  I don't think it completely sucked, but it definitely was unsatisfying.

Compared to the one before, Superman Returns, Man Of Steel was way better.

Completely disagree.

Then we shall dual good sir.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on October 17, 2014, 05:14:47 PM
At least "...Returns" wasn't embarrassed to be a Superman film.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on October 17, 2014, 05:15:58 PM
I really like Superman Returns. But Man of Steel was pretty good too, so I'm satisfied with the Superman movies as of late.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on October 17, 2014, 05:18:04 PM
At least "...Returns" wasn't embarrassed to be a Superman film.

At least Man Of steel has a Lois Lane that didn't make me punch a hole in my TV.  She was one of the worst miscasts ever!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on October 17, 2014, 05:24:10 PM
At least "...Returns" wasn't embarrassed to be a Superman film.

At least Man Of steel has a Lois Lane that didn't make me punch a hole in my TV.  She was one of the worst miscasts ever!

Lois lane in MOS was just "Exposition Conduit".
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on October 17, 2014, 05:43:02 PM
I'm OK with that
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dimitrius on October 17, 2014, 06:25:54 PM
Man of Steel is the greatest live action DBZ movie ever, that is all.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on October 17, 2014, 06:30:22 PM
Dragon Ball Z?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dimitrius on October 17, 2014, 06:30:41 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on October 17, 2014, 06:43:32 PM
Nerd.







 :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on October 17, 2014, 06:47:02 PM
I read that to my son....he laughed...and said he agreed.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on October 17, 2014, 06:52:43 PM
I've never seen Dragon Ball Z. So you will have to explain it.

Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Lucien on October 17, 2014, 06:55:23 PM
I've never seen Dragon Ball Z. So you will have to explain it.

DBZ is famous for big elaborate fight scenes between what are essentially gods, usually in the air.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MiracleSleeper on October 17, 2014, 09:01:45 PM
Man of Steel is the greatest live action DBZ movie ever, that is all.
That's exactly how I thought of it. lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 18, 2014, 04:57:09 AM
Man of Steel had its flaws (even what I would consider MAJOR flaws), but Superman Returns was just awful. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on October 18, 2014, 05:36:01 AM
I think we should all be able to agree that both Man Of Steel and Superman Returns were both better than Superman III & IV
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 18, 2014, 05:37:49 AM
I think we should all be able to agree that both Man Of Steel and Superman Returns were both better than Superman III & IV
You're setting an awfully low mark.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on October 18, 2014, 05:46:59 AM
Why Hef.  Those were god awful!  :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on October 18, 2014, 06:03:09 AM
It doesn't matter since dawn of justice is going to be the new Batman And Robin.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 18, 2014, 06:03:58 AM
It doesn't matter since dawn of justice is going to be the new Batman And Robin.

Nothing can top Batman and Robin!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 18, 2014, 06:17:01 AM
It doesn't matter since dawn of justice is going to be the new Batman And Robin.

Nothing can top Batman and Robin!
Not even Batman and Robin and Superman and Flash and Cyborg and Wonder Woman and Aquaman?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 18, 2014, 06:21:07 AM
It doesn't matter since dawn of justice is going to be the new Batman And Robin.

Nothing can top Batman and Robin!
Not even Batman and Robin and Superman and Flash and Cyborg and Wonder Woman and Aquaman?

Oh they may be bad, but they could only dream of being Batman and Robin levels of incredibad.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 18, 2014, 06:34:36 AM
You're probably right.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on October 18, 2014, 07:02:13 AM
I love you Alfred.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on October 18, 2014, 12:36:34 PM
I love you Alfred.
*old man.

Don't ask me why I know this.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dimitrius on October 18, 2014, 01:35:20 PM
It's pretty obvious Batman and Robin is your favorite Batman flick, that's why you know it!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on October 18, 2014, 01:52:45 PM
I think we should all be able to agree that both Man Of Steel and Superman Returns were both better than Superman III & IV

IV will always be *the worst* Superman film.   It is so completely unbelievable awful.

However, to quote Michael Bolton from Office Space...III is actually an under-rated movie.    It wasn't nearly the caliber of 1 and 2, but it wasn't a terrible as people make it out to be.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 18, 2014, 02:00:09 PM
Yes it is.  It's fucking awful.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jingle.boy on October 18, 2014, 02:11:49 PM
You have to remember that most of the Marvel "stars" were far from stars when they signed on for their roles. Did any of you know Chris Hemsworth? Robert Downey Jr had done some great roles, but he was far from that status after a lot of problems with drugs, and Chris Evans was mostly known for starring in the spectacular Fantastic Four movies. Sure, they have sprinkled in some more famous names (like Samuel L Jackson) in the smaller roles, but for the most part, we know these actors through their superhero roles.

And I think that's good. I like it when they get someone who isn't strongly connected with a few roles already, because it gives the character a unique face on its own, rather than "oh its that guy who played character X in movie Y".

You have a point... but Marvel didn't announce Hemsworth or Evans as Thor/Cap in 2008 before IM I.  I actually do like the idea of using relatively unknown names... but are these actors just supposed to sit on their hands for the next four years?  Some might become big stars by 2018.

I would a lot more excited about these films if Affleck was directing them instead of Snyder.

Fuckin right.  Then it might actually be a movie.  Snyder is on the verge of approaching Michael Bay level of  ::)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The King in Crimson on October 18, 2014, 02:22:57 PM
Since it's October, it's time for shitty horror movies!

I recently watched both Phantasm and Warlock. Warlock was pretty dumb, with some questionable acting by the leading lady, though it was a lot of fun and it didn't take itself very seriously. I'm not sure I'd classify it as a horror movie though, it's more of a fantasy. It's neither gory nor particularly scary. Maybe a bit creepy? I dunno. Julian Sands hams it up gloriously as the Warlock and some dude with a bad Scottish accent is entertaining as the time displaced 17th century Witch Hunter. It's fun and stupidly 80's, but I'll give it a recommendation. It's not too long and good, solid entertainment if you're looking for a bit of cheese.

I remember seeing the end of Phantasm II on TV many, many years ago and thinking it was pretty cool at the time so after recently coming across a random reference to the series on the internet, I figured it was time finally check it out. Being the obsessive completionist that I am, I decided to start at the very beginning with the first and original Phantasm. It was... okay. Phantasm fell a bit into the Event Horizon spectrum of films: good ideas, questionable execution. Phantasm kinda has a bit of everything going on, reanimated dead bodies full of yellow goo, scary old mortuary dudes, alternate dimensions, and flying, blade spurting steel ball... thingies. Like I said earlier, lots of neat ideas but not much tying it all together. Most things happen not because they would logically occur but because... reasons. The ending maybe explains that but it's less revelatory and more just unsatisfying. I'm still going to check out the next film because, why not, but I'm not sure if I could recommend the first film wholeheartedly. Mildly entertaining but overall just kind of meh.

Oh yeah, I also saw some movie called Gone Girl, but I'm sure no one has ever heard of it. It's some indie movie full of a bunch of no namers and the Joanie Stubbs from Deadwood.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on October 18, 2014, 03:58:11 PM
It's pretty obvious Batman and Robin is your favorite Batman flick, that's why you know it!

 :lol

No way!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on October 18, 2014, 04:06:49 PM
It's pretty obvious Batman and Robin is your favorite Batman flick, that's why you know it!
Never in my life have I been so offended.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on October 18, 2014, 04:25:46 PM
Phantasm was incredible when it first came out because there was nothing like it at the time.  There were horror movies, but all were either the suspenseful kind with long buildups and jump-scare scenes, or silly chop-em-up things with teenagers going out into the woods and getting offed one at a time.  Phantasm raised the bar big time.  The ball!  The Tall Man!  My friends and I liked monster movies, but this one genuinely scared the shit out of us.  Today, yeah, it's old news.  Its style has been blown apart by over-the-top stuff like Saw and outright gore-fests.  But in its day, Phantasm was the scariest, freakiest movie ever made.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 18, 2014, 09:12:00 PM
Warlock was pretty dumb, with some questionable acting by the leading lady, though it was a lot of fun and it didn't take itself very seriously. I'm not sure I'd classify it as a horror movie though, it's more of a fantasy. It's neither gory nor particularly scary. Maybe a bit creepy? I dunno. Julian Sands hams it up gloriously as the Warlock and some dude with a bad Scottish accent is entertaining as the time displaced 17th century Witch Hunter. It's fun and stupidly 80's, but I'll give it a recommendation. It's not too long and good, solid entertainment if you're looking for a bit of cheese.
Little known fact: I never saw Warlock, but I read the tie-in novelization of the film.  I dunno about the movie, but the book was a fun read.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on October 19, 2014, 02:30:06 AM
I remember watching Warlock, but I remember nothing about it. I must have found it pretty "meh."
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: ozzy554 on October 19, 2014, 06:57:02 AM
Since it's October, it's time for shitty horror movies!

I recently watched both Phantasm and Warlock. Warlock was pretty dumb, with some questionable acting by the leading lady, though it was a lot of fun and it didn't take itself very seriously. I'm not sure I'd classify it as a horror movie though, it's more of a fantasy. It's neither gory nor particularly scary. Maybe a bit creepy? I dunno. Julian Sands hams it up gloriously as the Warlock and some dude with a bad Scottish accent is entertaining as the time displaced 17th century Witch Hunter. It's fun and stupidly 80's, but I'll give it a recommendation. It's not too long and good, solid entertainment if you're looking for a bit of cheese.

I remember seeing the end of Phantasm II on TV many, many years ago and thinking it was pretty cool at the time so after recently coming across a random reference to the series on the internet, I figured it was time finally check it out. Being the obsessive completionist that I am, I decided to start at the very beginning with the first and original Phantasm. It was... okay. Phantasm fell a bit into the Event Horizon spectrum of films: good ideas, questionable execution. Phantasm kinda has a bit of everything going on, reanimated dead bodies full of yellow goo, scary old mortuary dudes, alternate dimensions, and flying, blade spurting steel ball... thingies. Like I said earlier, lots of neat ideas but not much tying it all together. Most things happen not because they would logically occur but because... reasons. The ending maybe explains that but it's less revelatory and more just unsatisfying. I'm still going to check out the next film because, why not, but I'm not sure if I could recommend the first film wholeheartedly. Mildly entertaining but overall just kind of meh.

Oh yeah, I also saw some movie called Gone Girl, but I'm sure no one has ever heard of it. It's some indie movie full of a bunch of no namers and the Joanie Stubbs from Deadwood.

The reason phantasm is like that is because while they were filming the movie Don coscarelli did not know which direction to take the movie in, so he ended up filming over 3 hours of footage. He then edited that down into a 90 minute horror movie. I think it kinda gives the movie a dreamlike feeling to it. I think phantasm 2 better than the first because it is much more focused than the first one.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: ZirconBlue on October 19, 2014, 07:53:18 PM
Warlock was pretty dumb, with some questionable acting by the leading lady, though it was a lot of fun and it didn't take itself very seriously. I'm not sure I'd classify it as a horror movie though, it's more of a fantasy. It's neither gory nor particularly scary. Maybe a bit creepy? I dunno. Julian Sands hams it up gloriously as the Warlock and some dude with a bad Scottish accent is entertaining as the time displaced 17th century Witch Hunter. It's fun and stupidly 80's, but I'll give it a recommendation. It's not too long and good, solid entertainment if you're looking for a bit of cheese.



Poor Richard E. Grant gets no respect.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The King in Crimson on October 19, 2014, 08:18:26 PM
Phantasm was incredible when it first came out because there was nothing like it at the time.  There were horror movies, but all were either the suspenseful kind with long buildups and jump-scare scenes, or silly chop-em-up things with teenagers going out into the woods and getting offed one at a time.  Phantasm raised the bar big time.  The ball!  The Tall Man!  My friends and I liked monster movies, but this one genuinely scared the shit out of us.  Today, yeah, it's old news.  Its style has been blown apart by over-the-top stuff like Saw and outright gore-fests.  But in its day, Phantasm was the scariest, freakiest movie ever made.
It's certainly quite possible that I'm judging it unfairly without regard for the time in which it was released, but I've seen other horror films from that same era that have held up to the test of time. The Thing and Alien are two of my favorite horror films for example. On the other hand, Phantasm, for me, did not hold up.

Little known fact: I never saw Warlock, but I read the tie-in novelization of the film.  I dunno about the movie, but the book was a fun read.
Wow, they made a novelization of that? I can imagine it being fun as the movie had an imaginative script with some fun, campy dialogue.

The reason phantasm is like that is because while they were filming the movie Don coscarelli did not know which direction to take the movie in, so he ended up filming over 3 hours of footage. He then edited that down into a 90 minute horror movie. I think it kinda gives the movie a dreamlike feeling to it. I think phantasm 2 better than the first because it is much more focused than the first one.
That makes some sense and yes it does contribute to that 'dream-like' quality that the film has which makes some bit of sense, considering the ending.

Poor Richard E. Grant gets no respect.
:lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on October 19, 2014, 08:56:07 PM
Phantasm was incredible when it first came out because there was nothing like it at the time.  There were horror movies, but all were either the suspenseful kind with long buildups and jump-scare scenes, or silly chop-em-up things with teenagers going out into the woods and getting offed one at a time.  Phantasm raised the bar big time.  The ball!  The Tall Man!  My friends and I liked monster movies, but this one genuinely scared the shit out of us.  Today, yeah, it's old news.  Its style has been blown apart by over-the-top stuff like Saw and outright gore-fests.  But in its day, Phantasm was the scariest, freakiest movie ever made.
It's certainly quite possible that I'm judging it unfairly without regard for the time in which it was released, but I've seen other horror films from that same era that have held up to the test of time. The Thing and Alien are two of my favorite horror films for example. On the other hand, Phantasm, for me, did not hold up.

I haven't seen it in a while, so it's entirely possible that it doesn't hold up today.  I do know that a lot of people, myself included, considered it about the scariest thing we'd ever seen back when it came out.  Alien was made around the same time and also broke new ground, though in a somewhat different direction, and John Carpenter's The Thing is in a class by itself, so I don't know how fair it is to compare it to either of those two films.  But your point is taken.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dark Castle on October 20, 2014, 12:21:38 AM
Finally have the chance to watch Godzilla, this movie's fucking incredible.
Title: Q
Post by: TioJorge on October 20, 2014, 01:33:07 AM
Finally have the chance to watch Godzilla, this movie's fucking incredible.

YUH YUH, GOJIRAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH-SAMA




Now for....


King Ghidorah (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRn9BRo4Igw)! Take me to your leader. Quick to claim he ain't no snake like, "Me neither"; they need to take a breather. He been rhyming longer than Sigmund the sea creature. Been on Saturday feature, pleased to meet'cha and came to wake you outta the deep sleep like he needed to stop before he caught the knee-drop. Even give you more zip-zip than ZZ-Top. With full beer thou shall not ball corners. Ghidorah like, "One more step and y'all fall goners; So-called rich, front if you wanna".
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Outcrier on October 20, 2014, 01:56:52 AM
 :metal
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on October 20, 2014, 09:11:35 PM
I'm currently watching The Phantom Menace for the first time in years... I'm scared. :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on October 20, 2014, 09:18:19 PM
I'm currently watching The Phantom Menace for the first time in years... I'm scared. :lol
Are you an angel?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on October 20, 2014, 09:41:27 PM
I'm currently watching The Phantom Menace for the first time in years... I'm scared. :lol
Are you an angel?

I am literally watching that scene right now. :lol :facepalm: :'(

So far, most of the film just feels like a slightly less good Episode IV, aside from whenever Jar Jar is onscreen. Those moments are just abysmal. We'll see where it goes from here...
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on October 20, 2014, 11:34:15 PM
I just watched Good Morning Vietnam.
Oh, Robin. *sigh*
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dream Team on October 21, 2014, 07:39:17 AM
Watched the 2005 King Kong again - man, Kong vs the 3 V-Rexes is the most epic action scene ever. I know it's over the top, but wow I never get tired of it. Naomi's legs are epic also.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on October 21, 2014, 08:28:04 AM
Watched the 2005 King Kong again - man, Kong vs the 3 V-Rexes is the most epic action scene ever. I know it's over the top, but wow I never get tired of it. Naomi's legs are epic also.

That's the only King Kong film I've seen, but man do I love it. Jack Black was fantastic in it with the exception of his "beauty killed the beast" line at the very line.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 21, 2014, 08:30:33 AM
That movie was way too over the top for me. I couldn't even get through it. Peter Jackson's LOTR style didn't work for that movie imo, and it just felt like it was trying to one-up the original, with too much CGI.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on October 21, 2014, 08:31:40 AM
Watched the 2005 King Kong again - man, Kong vs the 3 V-Rexes is the most epic action scene ever. I know it's over the top, but wow I never get tired of it. Naomi's legs are epic also.

That's the only King Kong film I've seen, but man do I love it. Jack Black was fantastic in it with the exception of his "beauty killed the beast" line at the very line.

I haven't seen that movie in years. I remember seeing it in theaters on the release day with my dad. We went to an afternoon showing and didn't get out until around 8 or 9 at night. I remember enjoying it, but the thing I remember most of all was the exhaustion I felt after it was over. It just went on for so long. :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on October 21, 2014, 09:07:00 AM
I enjoyed King Kong, especially the middle hour or so at the island. Really loved that part. What brought the movie down for me was the first and third hour, and in my opinion King Kong himself, while good, wasn't the main draw for me. I was much more excited for the "Humans arrive at mysterious island" part than "King Kong causing chaos in the city", and so basically once they get to the island I was in, and once they left the island I was out.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MiracleSleeper on October 21, 2014, 01:57:12 PM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/32/Mr._Nobody_%28film_poster%29.jpg)

I watched "Mr. Nobody" last night for the first time, and wow! This is now amongst my favorite films. Absolutely incredible.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on October 21, 2014, 02:01:49 PM
Mr. Nobody is fantastic, and the music is incredible.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on October 22, 2014, 01:35:09 AM
Yea i've heard alot about it but everytime I aim to see it I for some reason end up seeing something else. Man i'm the worst at choosing a movie I wanna see...
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 22, 2014, 01:49:40 AM
Never heard of it, but it seems interesting. I've got it queued up, and will probably watch it some time soon.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on October 22, 2014, 05:39:52 AM
It's not bad. I started it but didn't finish it as It got a bit too bleak for me by the end.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 22, 2014, 06:28:20 AM
I gave up already. By the time it got to the baby/unicorn bit, it confirmed my worry that it was going to be kinda pretentious. I didn't last long after that before I had to stop.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MiracleSleeper on October 22, 2014, 04:03:29 PM
I gave up already. By the time it got to the baby/unicorn bit, it confirmed my worry that it was going to be kinda pretentious. I didn't last long after that before I had to stop.
Yeah, it's definitely not for everyone, it's a very odd and strangely structured/paced film. But for me personally, it really struck an emotional/spiritual chord within me, a type of feat that very few movies are able to do. I felt that watching this film was one of the best film viewing experiences I've ever had. It really made me reflect on not only my life, but the nature of life in general.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on October 23, 2014, 05:45:10 PM
This guy could play Nathan Drake in the Uncharted movie. I'm not well versed on his acting abilities, but he looks identical to the character... And isn't Mark Wahlberg.

James Lafferty
(https://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/wennpic/wenn5092570.jpg)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on October 25, 2014, 11:23:14 AM
Can't wait for Birdman. It seems every reviewer out there is in love with it (including my by far most trusted reviewer who gave it a 10/10) and it seems just like my kind of movie. Plus I have a soft spot for Edward Norton.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on October 25, 2014, 12:04:49 PM
I also have a huge soft spot for Norton (and he was fantastic- I wanted to slap the shit out of him), but I didn't LOVE Birdman. I had very mixed feelings, but I did enjoy it. Still processing.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Sigz on October 26, 2014, 07:18:09 AM
Saw John Wick last night with the ladyfriend. It was both silly and fucking awesome. I'd definitely recommend it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 26, 2014, 12:10:22 PM
It looks like a lot of fun!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on October 26, 2014, 01:02:39 PM
I also have a huge soft spot for Norton (and he was fantastic- I wanted to slap the shit out of him), but I didn't LOVE Birdman. I had very mixed feelings, but I did enjoy it. Still processing.

I've heard that Ed Norton is very difficult to work with and that he demands to rewrite every script he works on.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on October 26, 2014, 05:47:18 PM
Yeah, which is kind of funny/maybe not a coincidence considering his character in Birdman. I recently heard that when they were doing American History X he would sneak into the editing room and make his scenes longer or some shit. What an ass! I still love him, though.

Guys, I had such a blast last night. The local Alamo Drafthouse did an event called DISMEMBER THE ALAMO! It was a surprise quadruple-feature of horror flicks, so we didn't know what we were going to watch until it started, basically. First one was PROM NIGHT, which is hilarious and awesome and I had never seen. Second was SCREAM, which I love and reminds me of my youth. You know, back in the day. Third was NIGHT OF THE CREEPS, which I had never seen before and absolutely LOVED. Probably my favorite of the four. Last was SQUIRM, a very country, very seventies worm flick that was enjoyable but probably my least favorite of the bunch.
We spent about eight hours on our asses in the theatre, but it was great. There was beer and popcorn and actual food and coffee, which was all I needed. We got goodie bags and there were a few contests. I won a light-up pumpkin for guessing 2/4 movies. They had us write down our guesses before it started- I had a little help from a friend on one, and was really surprised that I was the only one who guessed more than one correctly.
Anyway, really fun time. I love horror movies and I just love this time of year.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 26, 2014, 06:38:47 PM
That sounds amazing!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on October 26, 2014, 07:42:33 PM
Yeah, the Alamo does the coolest stuff.

I just watched Triplets of Belleville, which was totally awesome! I'm always apprehensive about seeing stuff that's been really hyped-up, but this one did not disappoint.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dark Castle on October 26, 2014, 08:39:38 PM
Watching the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie, and it's actually okay, but jesus fuck Megan Fox is such a terrible actor, and some of the stuff that happens is stupid, mainly her trying to prove to her boss the turtle's existence.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on October 26, 2014, 08:48:35 PM
I'm pretty excited. Just found out that I might be getting to see an early screening of Christopher Nolan's Interstellar this coming Saturday... Keeping my fingers crossed that'll work out! :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on October 26, 2014, 09:45:55 PM
Sweet! The Alamo is showing that a couple days early here (the 4th) but I'm not sure if I'm going yet.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Accelerando on October 27, 2014, 11:53:46 AM
Interstellar has been getting incredible reviews, which is not surprising. I just read this one from Yahoo, and I'm more excited than ever
 
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/review-interstellar-is-an-exhilarating-emotional-101093024912.html
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 27, 2014, 12:06:36 PM
I read the review in Variety.  Can't wait to see it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on October 27, 2014, 04:17:06 PM
Interstellar is actually getting a lot of mixed reviews right now, but for once, I think that's probably a good thing. From what I understand, films like Vertigo, 2001: A Space Odyssey, Blade Runner and The Thing all got mixed or negative responses when they first came out. From the sound of things, this is easily Nolan's most ambitious film to date, so I wouldn't be surprised if this one's a grower on audiences.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on October 27, 2014, 05:32:12 PM
Interstellar is actually getting a lot of mixed reviews right now, but for once, I think that's probably a good thing. From what I understand, films like Vertigo, 2001: A Space Odyssey, Blade Runner and The Thing all got mixed or negative responses when they first came out. From the sound of things, this is easily Nolan's most ambitious film to date, so I wouldn't be surprised if this one's a grower on audiences.

Avatar got a lot of mixed reviews and ended up being the greatest film ever made.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on October 27, 2014, 05:33:47 PM
Interstellar is actually getting a lot of mixed reviews right now, but for once, I think that's probably a good thing. From what I understand, films like Vertigo, 2001: A Space Odyssey, Blade Runner and The Thing all got mixed or negative responses when they first came out. From the sound of things, this is easily Nolan's most ambitious film to date, so I wouldn't be surprised if this one's a grower on audiences.

Avatar got a lot of mixed reviews and ended up being the greatest film ever made.

Whoa there ! I love it too but it's far from the greatest film ever made !

It's no Wrath of Khan or Back To The Future or Innerspace :D
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MiracleSleeper on October 27, 2014, 06:42:04 PM
Interstellar is actually getting a lot of mixed reviews right now, but for once, I think that's probably a good thing. From what I understand, films like Vertigo, 2001: A Space Odyssey, Blade Runner and The Thing all got mixed or negative responses when they first came out. From the sound of things, this is easily Nolan's most ambitious film to date, so I wouldn't be surprised if this one's a grower on audiences.
Yeah, the Nolan Fans forum is going bonkers right now over the mixed reviews, lol.

I'm not worried at all, some of my favorite films of all time have extremely mixed reviews and have been criticized as all hell. If anything, this wave of mixed reviews actually makes me more hopeful that it will be exactly the type of experience I look for in a film.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on October 27, 2014, 07:28:34 PM
Interstellar is actually getting a lot of mixed reviews right now, but for once, I think that's probably a good thing. From what I understand, films like Vertigo, 2001: A Space Odyssey, Blade Runner and The Thing all got mixed or negative responses when they first came out. From the sound of things, this is easily Nolan's most ambitious film to date, so I wouldn't be surprised if this one's a grower on audiences.
Yeah, the Nolan Fans forum is going bonkers right now over the mixed reviews, lol.

I'm not worried at all, some of my favorite films of all time have extremely mixed reviews and have been criticized as all hell. If anything, this wave of mixed reviews actually makes me more hopeful that it will be exactly the type of experience I look for in a film.

:lol I'm not at all surprised by that.

Likewise! I had a feeling that Interstellar would probably be a film that ends up being a grower. It is dealing with a ton of hard scientific facts and theories after all.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on October 28, 2014, 05:23:17 AM
I'm still undecided.   It's Nolan, so I'm sure I'll see it.   But I have yet to see a preview of that movie that didn't bore me to tears.   Everyone thought Gravity was going to be so fantastic, and other than the amazing visuals, that movie was pretty much a dud. 

I'm skeptically hopeful.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on October 28, 2014, 05:51:33 AM
I'm still undecided.   It's Nolan, so I'm sure I'll see it.   But I have yet to see a preview of that movie that didn't bore me to tears.   Everyone thought Gravity was going to be so fantastic, and other than the amazing visuals, that movie was pretty much a dud. 

I'm skeptically hopeful.

The first trailer emphasized way too much on Murphy's Law. That kind of irked me. The following trailers got me super excited. However, I still remain skeptical about how good the movie will be. There are a lot of questions to be answered and not a lot of time to answer them.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on October 28, 2014, 07:23:15 AM
I'm still undecided.   It's Nolan, so I'm sure I'll see it.   But I have yet to see a preview of that movie that didn't bore me to tears.   Everyone thought Gravity was going to be so fantastic, and other than the amazing visuals, that movie was pretty much a dud. 

I'm skeptically hopeful.

The first trailer emphasized way too much on Murphy's Law. That kind of irked me. The following trailers got me super excited. However, I still remain skeptical about how good the movie will be. There are a lot of answers to be answered and not a lot of time to answer them.

That'd be the second trailer, actually. The first was mostly just a collection of historical videos with Matthew McConaughey narrating and had just a couple of shots from the film squeezed in there. My personal favorite trailer for the film is actually the one that most people don't know about; it's been showing at some IMAX theaters lately, but it hasn't been released online officially, with only a bootleg of it on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InD7EE2REMw

I love how it takes the concept of the original trailer and expands on it by including more footage from the actual film and then ending it all with a minute's worth of incredible space footage. Plus it seems to include some of Hans Zimmer's score for the film and it's really different from his previous work with Nolan. Full of church organs and stuff.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on October 28, 2014, 09:47:31 AM
This is what I see happening :

The space crew don't get back to earth in time - but they find a way to go back thru a wormhole to earth in the past and prevent earth from being ravaged in the first place.


I don't see Nolan doing a really bummer ending where they fail to save earth and everyone dies etc :P
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on October 28, 2014, 09:48:59 AM
Ooh yeah and I REALLY DO NOT WANT another Inception or Dark Knight Rises ending where it's like

??? is that real or not ?!

That's been done too often now.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 28, 2014, 09:52:07 AM
Didn't get any such impression from Dark Knight Rises  ???
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on October 28, 2014, 10:01:59 AM
Didn't get any such impression from Dark Knight Rises  ???

It didn't get as much as Inception - but the ending with Bruce, Selena and Alfred in the cafe - people were torn over whether that was real or whether it was Alfred's fantasy.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: puppyonacid on October 28, 2014, 10:34:16 AM
Watched Edge of Tomorrow with the kids the other night.

I enjoyed it a lot. It was nicely paced and I really enjoyed the lead actors performances (and Bill Paxton as support - but you can't go wrong with Bill Paxton). Tom Cruise is getting on but can still put in more than convincing performances in action movies. I like him though so I am biased.

The plot is complex enough to stay interesting without being to over bearing. The humour keeps the movie bouncing along nicely.

It's kind off Starship Troopers meets Groundhog Day which I am more than ok with.

Great move - highly recommended.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on October 28, 2014, 11:15:07 AM
Ooh yeah and I REALLY DO NOT WANT another Inception or Dark Knight Rises ending where it's like

??? is that real or not ?!

That's been done too often now.

That's just the audience being stupid, at least in regards to TDKR. It's incredibly clear what happens: Bruce fakes his death, moves to Europe with Selena and retires as Batman, having finally found his inner peace and the ability to move on. Blake inherits the Bat Cave and begins his own odyssey to eventually become the next Batman. The End.

Also, Inception is pretty damn clear too. Cobb is almost definitely awake, but it doesn't matter anymore if he is or not. Much like Bruce in TDKR, he's moved on from his sorrow.

As for Interstellar, I hear its ending is apparently a legitimate mind-bender. I'll give my thoughts on it if I get to see it early on Saturday.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on October 28, 2014, 11:58:33 AM
Apart from Memento, Inception and The Prestige, I don't think Nolan has any other ambiguous endings to his movies. And that's only 3 out of 8 movies he has done, so I think his status of being a twist-director is a bit blown out of proportions. With that said, he does those endings so well, and Interstellar is a Sci-Fi movie so I would expect a kind of artsy ending you might need to watch more than once to fully appreciate or understand.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on October 29, 2014, 12:47:47 AM
Just watched Frank. It was awesome. Interesting seeing Fassbender in a comedic role, but he pulled it off amazingly even if you couldn't see his face. Definitely one of the greatest actors out there. Imagining the fact it was him behind that head performing his "Most Likable Song Ever" is just amazing. :rollin
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Xanthul on October 29, 2014, 01:18:10 AM
Apart from Memento, Inception and The Prestige, I don't think Nolan has any other ambiguous endings to his movies.

What's ambiguous about the Prestige ending? I'm not trying to be an ass, I'm just genuinely curious because I never thought there were multiple explanations for the ending. Then again, I always thought the explanation by Teddy at the end of Memento was true and only considered other possibilities after I started reading about them on the internet, so I certainly could have missed something.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on October 29, 2014, 03:31:13 AM
Apart from Memento, Inception and The Prestige, I don't think Nolan has any other ambiguous endings to his movies.

What's ambiguous about the Prestige ending? I'm not trying to be an ass, I'm just genuinely curious because I never thought there were multiple explanations for the ending. Then again, I always thought the explanation by Teddy at the end of Memento was true and only considered other possibilities after I started reading about them on the internet, so I certainly could have missed something.

I would say Prestige is the least ambiguous out of the three, but while I did not have any problems with it myself, I have watched it with 2-3 other people who all needed to re-watch the movie again to understand the last few twists at the end. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on October 30, 2014, 06:38:42 AM
I actually watched Memento for the first time the other day. I'm amazed it took me this long to get around to watching it, as I've been a fan of Nolan's work for years. :lol Anywho, while the cinematography wasn't as great as later Nolan films, I think that might be his best directed film to date. It's almost definitely his best edited film.

The ending to Memento isn't necessarily ambiguous, I think. It does explain the whole movie. The trick with it, I think, is that it gets you thinking more about Leonard and what all he might have done prior to the film and what he might do after it too.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 30, 2014, 07:00:35 AM
I still haven't seen it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Xanthul on October 30, 2014, 08:16:25 AM
I still haven't seen it.

If I'm a fanboy about any film, it's probably this (and maybe Fight Club). Go watch it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on October 30, 2014, 08:19:12 AM
While Nolan has improved visually with each movie and become a better director, I think Memento remains my favorite mostly by how amazing the script is. While movies like Inception and even The Prestige can raise certain questions about plotholes (not that I mind), Memento is the one movie where I personally can't find a flaw. It's incredibly well-written and well directed, and really is a gem.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on October 30, 2014, 08:27:31 AM
While Nolan has improved visually with each movie and become a better director, I think Memento remains my favorite mostly by how amazing the script is. While movies like Inception and even The Prestige can raise certain questions about plotholes (not that I mind), Memento is the one movie where I personally can't find a flaw. It's incredibly well-written and well directed, and really is a gem.

On top of that, I think Guy Pearce probably gave the best lead performance in any of Nolan's films. Or at least, the best out of the ones that I've seen. He does an incredible job in Memento.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on October 30, 2014, 09:02:35 AM
Funny Games gets better every time I see it. :heart
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on October 30, 2014, 09:30:54 AM
While Nolan has improved visually with each movie and become a better director, I think Memento remains my favorite mostly by how amazing the script is. While movies like Inception and even The Prestige can raise certain questions about plotholes (not that I mind), Memento is the one movie where I personally can't find a flaw. It's incredibly well-written and well directed, and really is a gem.

On top of that, I think Guy Pearce probably gave the best lead performance in any of Nolan's films. Or at least, the best out of the ones that I've seen. He does an incredible job in Memento.

Better than Hugh Jackman or Christian Bale in The Prestige ?

Better than David Bowie ? :P
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on October 30, 2014, 09:37:54 AM
While Nolan has improved visually with each movie and become a better director, I think Memento remains my favorite mostly by how amazing the script is. While movies like Inception and even The Prestige can raise certain questions about plotholes (not that I mind), Memento is the one movie where I personally can't find a flaw. It's incredibly well-written and well directed, and really is a gem.

On top of that, I think Guy Pearce probably gave the best lead performance in any of Nolan's films. Or at least, the best out of the ones that I've seen. He does an incredible job in Memento.

I'm gonna have to agree, Guy Pearce is amazing in Memento. I think overall, he is one of those actors who doesn't get enough credit, and apart from Memento he has been in a few other great movies as well. He is incredibly convincing as the guy who can't remember much but tries to piece the puzzle together.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: lucky7 on October 30, 2014, 07:16:12 PM
Saw Fury last night .. good movie, good performances it is a war movie so at times a little hard to watch...worth seeing.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Outcrier on October 30, 2014, 07:39:39 PM
While Nolan has improved visually with each movie and become a better director, I think Memento remains my favorite mostly by how amazing the script is.

One of his best movies. Personally, i love it :heart

I'm gonna have to agree, Guy Pearce is amazing in Memento. I think overall, he is one of those actors who doesn't get enough credit, and apart from Memento he has been in a few other great movies as well. He is incredibly convincing as the guy who can't remember much but tries to piece the puzzle together.

Exactly. You just look at his face and think: "Yeah, this guy doesn't have a clue about what's happening" :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on October 30, 2014, 07:52:00 PM
I love how he starts out as the protagonist and as the film develops you find out he's just stolen everything  :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on October 30, 2014, 09:13:36 PM
I love how he starts out as the protagonist and as the film develops you find out he's just stolen everything  :lol

Shhhh... Some people haven't seen the movie yet! :lol

But yeah, it was insane to see the character develop in-reverse over the course of the film. Same with the rest of the cast, actually.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on October 31, 2014, 09:46:22 AM
Finally got around to watching There Will Be Blood. Damn, it's rare a movie keeps me that entertained throughout its entirety, especially one of that length. Amazing stuff.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on October 31, 2014, 09:51:24 AM
Finally got around to watching There Will Be Blood. Damn, it's rare a movie keeps me that entertained throughout its entirety, especially one of that length. Amazing stuff.

Funny you should mention that! I just started watching it late last night. I didn't finish it, but I plan to do so over the weekend. But yeah, it looks absolutely incredible.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on October 31, 2014, 11:14:58 AM
Not very re-watchable, since it's so depressing. But still a very good movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The Trooper on November 01, 2014, 10:43:01 AM
On the Memento DVD their is an easter egg where you can actually watch the movie in chronological order.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on November 01, 2014, 10:50:34 AM
Did that a while back, very interesting and a fun angle on the movie. It flows quite differently that way. Not only backwards, but different.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on November 01, 2014, 03:14:06 PM
I haven't watched it that way myself, because personally I feel the beginning (or in the case of the movie, the end) really is the key. Once you get to that small twist, or rather event that happens, it really affects the rest of the movie and you will look at it differently. Watching the movie chronologically, I'm afraid it will lose that special quality, because you know the truth from the start, and everything else just plays out.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: orcus116 on November 01, 2014, 07:56:24 PM
Yeah I feel like the movie would go from seeing it through the eyes of Leonard to just being a casual observer.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on November 01, 2014, 08:43:41 PM
Just came home from St. Vincent.    Please just hand Bill Murray the Oscar right now...    The framework of the story is a pretty old idea, but this is a perfect example of taking an old idea, approaching it from a fresh and modern angle, then surround it with talent.   The writing is excellent, and all the performances were brilliant as well.   Melissa McCarthy really impressed me in her role as well.   I think she's been playing too many roles that under-utilize how talented she is.

While I was at it, I also saw a couple a trailers that I got excited for:

A new Johnny Depp movie without Tim Burton - Mortdecai 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh6nYOhItOM

And a new Tim Burton movie without Johnny Depp - Big Eyes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xD9uTlh5hI

If these movies are as good as their trailers suggest...I don't think these two should ever work together again... They are just better when they're not together.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on November 01, 2014, 09:16:53 PM
I just got home from seeing Nightcrawler and the North Carolina state premiere for Interstellar back-to-back. Both films were easily the best two I've seen this year.

And jammindude, while I haven't seen St. Vincent myself, I'd hold off on definitely giving Murray the Oscar until you've seen Nightcrawler. Jake Gyllenhaal was disturbingly terrific in that film. I was actually reminded quite a bit of Robert De Niro's performance in Taxi Driver. I'm sure there are some other great movies that came out this year or will come out later that will probably challenge Murray on the Oscar too.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on November 01, 2014, 11:25:15 PM

If these movies are as good as their trailers suggest...I don't think these two should ever work together again... They are just better when they're not together.


Neither has made a decent film in a very long time.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on November 01, 2014, 11:38:14 PM

If these movies are as good as their trailers suggest...I don't think these two should ever work together again... They are just better when they're not together.


Neither has made a decent film in a very long time.

It has been a while....but BIG FISH is my #1 movie of *all time* (and IMHO, his greatest movie ever)...beating out Dead Poets Society was no small task.   But I'm not sure he's made an original movie since then.   This may be the first time he's done something original since then.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on November 02, 2014, 01:57:23 AM
I haven't watched it that way myself, because personally I feel the beginning (or in the case of the movie, the end) really is the key. Once you get to that small twist, or rather event that happens, it really affects the rest of the movie and you will look at it differently. Watching the movie chronologically, I'm afraid it will lose that special quality, because you know the truth from the start, and everything else just plays out.

Definetely, the movie isn't the same, or as good, in chronological order. And I would never suggest for someone new to it to watch it that way for the first time. It's just more of a fun twist for those who are already so familiar with it.

And also, the end doesn't come in the beginning when played chronologically, it comes about half-way through, since all the black and white stuff happens first.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on November 02, 2014, 03:50:38 PM
My favourite Tim Burton film is Ed Wood. I've not liked anything since that.

Probably the same film for Depp as well.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MiracleSleeper on November 03, 2014, 12:57:11 PM
Wednesday... my life will be complete. I will have finally seen Christopher Nolan's Interstellar.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 03, 2014, 02:48:24 PM
Really looking forward to that.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on November 03, 2014, 04:45:00 PM
Saw it on Saturday. It's incredible. Think of it as the yang to 2001's yin.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MiracleSleeper on November 03, 2014, 07:16:16 PM
Saw it on Saturday. It's incredible. Think of it as the yang to 2001's yin.
I just pm'd ya.  ;)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on November 04, 2014, 03:47:38 AM
Wednesday... my life will be complete. I will have finally seen Christopher Nolan's Interstellar.

Hopefully this Friday. Debating whether to see it on the biggest screen - or a slightly smaller screen in 4K
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zydar on November 04, 2014, 03:50:12 AM
Grumpy Cat's Worst Christmas Ever (trailer):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrSPuBYm-Cw
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 04, 2014, 04:03:36 AM
This right here is the single defining moment that the human race is without a doubt beyond any possible redemption. :facepalm:

Not to mention that cat voice is all wrong. It just sounds like bad acting, rather than cynical.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on November 04, 2014, 08:52:24 AM
Oh jesus  :|
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on November 04, 2014, 08:58:03 AM
This is so not surprising in the least. I mean, doods, we're getting a fuckin' Angry Birds movie. I am absolutely confident that one day there will be a movie based around emoticons and/or a popular meme and/or web-talk (I'm pretty sure there's already a movie called 'LOL'). It's all fucked in the butt.

I'm finally going to see Guardians of the Galaxy on Thursday. I'm going with my ladyfriend's kid, so it should be fun; he's a riot and he's head over heels for anything superhero related.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on November 04, 2014, 01:05:40 PM
Grumpy Cat's Worst Christmas Ever (trailer):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrSPuBYm-Cw

"Oh I forgot, this is a Lifetime flick."

Well, at least it's somewhat honest about its quality (or lack thereof).
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Accelerando on November 05, 2014, 12:55:38 AM
I just saw Interstellar in 35mm tonight.

I've been trying to articulate my thoughts on the movie that I just witnessed the past hour.  It is Christopher Nolan's most internal and cerebral piece that he has ever made. It's definitely a movie worth viewing and needed to be seen twice. Visually, it's haunting, and has some of the best space travel since 2001: A Space Odyssey. Emotionally, it's dazzling. There's a lot of science behind it, and it's very intriguing.

I'm hoping this lands Nolan his long overdue Academy Award nomination for Directing, because this is one of the best pieces of cinema I've seen all year.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MiracleSleeper on November 05, 2014, 05:58:52 AM
I just saw Interstellar in 35mm tonight.

I've been trying to articulate my thoughts on the movie that I just witnessed the past hour.  It is Christopher Nolan's most internal and cerebral piece that he has ever made. It's definitely a movie worth viewing and needed to be seen twice. Visually, it's haunting, and has some of the best space travel since 2001: A Space Odyssey. Emotionally, it's dazzling. There's a lot of science behind it, and it's very intriguing.

I'm hoping this lands Nolan his long overdue Academy Award nomination for Directing, because this is one of the best pieces of cinema I've seen all year.
I'm at the mall waiting to see it right now. I've been hyping this thing for over a year now.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on November 05, 2014, 06:09:04 AM
I'm trying to remain un-hyped.

I've only seen the trailers and know nothing else about it.

All the reviews pretty much say it's visually amazing but the plot is formulaic and falls apart.

Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on November 05, 2014, 06:21:29 AM
I'm seeing it in 2 days and I can't wait.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on November 05, 2014, 06:24:01 AM
"Chappie"

Looks like a modern day Short Circuit. But terrible.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on November 05, 2014, 10:36:10 AM
So the reviews are pretty unanimous in saying that " Interstellar " is visually stunning but the plot is formulaic and falls apart in the third act.

::) I just know that all the Nolan haters are going to latch onto this like a parasite and claim that it's proof Nolan can't write a film - or just the usual

" Lol worst film ever made plot HOLZZ "
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on November 05, 2014, 10:52:56 AM
So the reviews are pretty unanimous in saying that " Interstellar " is visually stunning but the plot is formulaic and falls apart in the third act.

::) I just know that all the Nolan haters are going to latch onto this like a parasite and claim that it's proof Nolan can't write a film - or just the usual

" Lol worst film ever made plot HOLZZ "

Actually, what I've read and what I can sort of agree with (having actually seen the film myself), is that Nolan grasps a bit beyond his reach with the plot. It's anything but formulaic and the third act is probably my favorite part of the film (reminds me a little bit of a recent Doctor Who episode). It's the middle where things get potentially messy for me.

Interstellar is a very dense film though, so I'm hesitating to give it a review until I've seen it at least two or three times.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 05, 2014, 10:56:02 AM
I don't know that there are a large number of Nolan haters at any rate.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on November 05, 2014, 10:56:29 AM
It's frustrating how many films we discuss on this forum that can be boiled down to

" amazing visually - rubbish plot ".

I can't remember the last film I saw that had both in equal measure.

Inception maybe ?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on November 05, 2014, 10:57:58 AM
have you seen Cloud Atlas

go see Cloud Atlas
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on November 05, 2014, 11:00:11 AM
I don't know that there are a large number of Nolan haters at any rate.

Clearly you've never been to /tv/. They hate Nolan there. :lol

It's frustrating how many films we discuss on this forum that can be boiled down to

" amazing visually - rubbish plot ".

I can't remember the last film I saw that had both in equal measure.

Inception maybe ?

Eh, I think Dawn of the Planet of the Apes was a great balance between the two. Interstellar is easily the most beautiful looking film I've seen in a long time, hands down, but I hesitate to really call the plot 'rubbish.'
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on November 05, 2014, 11:03:37 AM
Is Interstellar gonna be like Gravity in the sense it's nice to look at but kinda sucks otherwise? I'll have to find out for myself.

And although I don't hate Nolan he is really overrated. Memento is still one of my favourite movies though.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on November 05, 2014, 11:07:18 AM
Is Interstellar gonna be like Gravity in the sense it's nice to look at but kinda sucks otherwise? I'll have to find out for myself.

And although I don't hate Nolan he is really overrated. Memento is still one of my favourite movies though.

I admire Nolan for his ambition and for his visual style and for NOT doing 3D...  :hefdaddy

I think Gravity was kind of meant to be all about the visuals and the cinema experience. That's probably why people who torrented it and watched it on their laptops hated it so much...


I'll probably love Interstellar because I don't really care that much about plot unless it's incredibly hard to understand or really REALLY awful.

I loved Star Trek Into Darkness and that was really lacking plot wise.

I also loved Prometheus and that plot was like a constant ??? wtf ?!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on November 05, 2014, 11:14:54 AM
How many Sci-Fi movies are completely without plot holes though? The more ambitious you try to go, the easier it is to create plot holes, and I think as a viewer you should have that in mind.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on November 05, 2014, 11:18:18 AM
I'm sure everyone will disagree but I thought Inception was really tight plot wise.

Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on November 05, 2014, 11:21:12 AM
How many Sci-Fi movies are completely without plot holes though? The more ambitious you try to go, the easier it is to create plot holes, and I think as a viewer you should have that in mind.

Indeed. It's sort of the nature of the beast, really.

Like I said, the finale of Interstellar reminded me a bit of a recent Doctor Who episode. If you liked that episode, you'll probably enjoy this.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on November 05, 2014, 11:25:02 AM
Reviews have said that the third act involves a Deus Ex Machina and you can see it coming a mile off...

I have a theory as to what that might be but i'm not gonna say it here.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Sigz on November 06, 2014, 12:46:16 AM
Saw Interstellar tonight. It was great, though I really need to see it again to form any kind of coherent opinion beyond that.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on November 06, 2014, 01:26:23 AM
John Wick was awesome. Also, I'm looking forward to seeing Exodus: Gods and Kings.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: lucky7 on November 06, 2014, 02:18:25 AM
I'm sure everyone will disagree but I thought Inception was really tight plot wise.

I agree with you. A lot of people hate this movie but it was Nolan at his best!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on November 06, 2014, 04:51:48 AM
Saw Interstellar tonight. It was great, though I really need to see it again to form any kind of coherent opinion beyond that.

My thoughts exactly. Thankfully I'll be seeing it again with some friends of mine on an IMAX screen. Sadly not the IMAX 70mm, but IMAX all the same. It's the best I can manage at the moment and I know it's going to be worth it. Those space sequences are just so damn gorgeous! :drool:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on November 06, 2014, 08:25:42 AM
Planning to see the 1933 King Kong followed by Interstellar at the drive-in tomorrow! They're also showing the last X-Men but we've already seen that so I'm not sure we'll stay for all three even though I enjoyed it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on November 06, 2014, 08:29:34 AM
I watched Team America for the first time yesterday.... I was really disappointed.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: eric42434224 on November 06, 2014, 08:40:22 AM
I watched Team America for the first time yesterday.... I was really disappointed.

Best sex scene in a movie ever.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zydar on November 06, 2014, 08:40:50 AM
"America, fuck yeah!"
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 06, 2014, 10:26:04 AM
Planning to see the 1933 King Kong followed by Interstellar at the drive-in tomorrow!
Wow, that's a heck of a double bill!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Accelerando on November 06, 2014, 03:57:57 PM
Goddammit....there's going to be a Toy Story 4...

https://variety.com/2014/film/news/john-lasseter-to-direct-toy-story-4-out-in-2017-1201349848/


Let me explain...

Part of me is excited, but the other part of me....more than the other part....is saying that the third movie ended this franchise PERFECTLY. I don't see a need for another Toy Story movie. Since 1995 we were on this journey with Andy growing up through the eyes of Woody and Buzz, and the third film ended it with Andy grown up and going to college. I'll still go see it, but i'm disappointed it's happening...
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on November 06, 2014, 04:17:42 PM
They should add modern toys like transformers, GI Joe, and whatnot. The main villain could be Cobra Commander. Of course, he'd come up with the dumbest plan ever and be foiled by Mr. Potato Head, but it would still be cool.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on November 06, 2014, 05:19:35 PM
Part of me is excited, but the other part of me....more than the other part....is saying that the third movie ended this franchise PERFECTLY. I don't see a need for another Toy Story movie. Since 1995 we were on this journey with Andy growing up through the eyes of Woody and Buzz, and the third film ended it with Andy grown up and going to college. I'll still go see it, but i'm disappointed it's happening...

I totally agree.  The third film brought the whole saga to an end, brought many things full circle, and still provided a positive promise of what the future held for everyone involved.  The perfect conclusion.  Lasseter being involved helps me think it won't be a complete disaster, and yeah, I'll see it too, but it's not a movie that needed to be made.  It's purely being made for the money at this point.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: lucky7 on November 06, 2014, 06:58:15 PM
Toy Story 3 did end on a good note...it had me crying. But last week I saw Toy Story of Terror which was on TV for Halloween and it reminded me how good the characters, animation etc are...I am sure they will ensure it is great for the legacy..looking forward to it!  :smiley:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on November 06, 2014, 10:30:08 PM
Planning to see the 1933 King Kong followed by Interstellar at the drive-in tomorrow!
Wow, that's a heck of a double bill!

I know! My date now may be sick, so I'll be really bummed if he cancels. I'd go to a regular movie by myself, but the drive-in would be weird  :|
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Outcrier on November 07, 2014, 12:33:42 AM
I just got home from seeing Nightcrawler and the North Carolina state premiere for Interstellar back-to-back. Both films were easily the best two I've seen this year.

And jammindude, while I haven't seen St. Vincent myself, I'd hold off on definitely giving Murray the Oscar until you've seen Nightcrawler. Jake Gyllenhaal was disturbingly terrific in that film. I was actually reminded quite a bit of Robert De Niro's performance in Taxi Driver. I'm sure there are some other great movies that came out this year or will come out later that will probably challenge Murray on the Oscar too.

Ever since i watched the trailer for Nightcrawler, it interested me. Now, with all the praise it's getting, it's a must see.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 07, 2014, 07:25:30 AM
Part of me is excited, but the other part of me....more than the other part....is saying that the third movie ended this franchise PERFECTLY. I don't see a need for another Toy Story movie. Since 1995 we were on this journey with Andy growing up through the eyes of Woody and Buzz, and the third film ended it with Andy grown up and going to college. I'll still go see it, but i'm disappointed it's happening...

I totally agree.  The third film brought the whole saga to an end, brought many things full circle, and still provided a positive promise of what the future held for everyone involved.  The perfect conclusion.  Lasseter being involved helps me think it won't be a complete disaster, and yeah, I'll see it too, but it's not a movie that needed to be made.  It's purely being made for the money at this point.
I guess.  I mean, I never saw it as a trilogy, with a fixed 3-part story to tell.  From a story perspective, Toy Story 2 didn't need to be made, and neither did Toy Story 3, but they were and they were great.  I don't see any reason not to hold out hope for Toy Story 4.  I trust the people who have made the first 3, I see no reason to suspect it is a cash-grab.  Look how long they have waited, to make sure they have a good story. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on November 07, 2014, 07:42:19 AM
I kind of feel like that with a fourth movie now in play, Andy should have kept the toys at the end of the third one. He could have knocked up a girl at school and had a son or daughter in a few years who could have used them.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on November 07, 2014, 08:46:30 AM
Part of me is excited, but the other part of me....more than the other part....is saying that the third movie ended this franchise PERFECTLY. I don't see a need for another Toy Story movie. Since 1995 we were on this journey with Andy growing up through the eyes of Woody and Buzz, and the third film ended it with Andy grown up and going to college. I'll still go see it, but i'm disappointed it's happening...

I totally agree.  The third film brought the whole saga to an end, brought many things full circle, and still provided a positive promise of what the future held for everyone involved.  The perfect conclusion.  Lasseter being involved helps me think it won't be a complete disaster, and yeah, I'll see it too, but it's not a movie that needed to be made.  It's purely being made for the money at this point.
I guess.  I mean, I never saw it as a trilogy, with a fixed 3-part story to tell.  From a story perspective, Toy Story 2 didn't need to be made, and neither did Toy Story 3, but they were and they were great.  I don't see any reason not to hold out hope for Toy Story 4.  I trust the people who have made the first 3, I see no reason to suspect it is a cash-grab.  Look how long they have waited, to make sure they have a good story. 

Those are all good points.  No, the original trilogy wasn't  planned as a trilogy, so if it sounded like I implied that, that wasn't my intention.

The original story was fine as a standalone.  Cool concept, great story.  The first sequel wasn't necessary, but they had more story to tell which expanded on the original, so they went for it and I thought it was great.  Same with Toy Story 3.  Bigger, better, etc.  But the ending of Toy Story 3 just felt a lot more final, like they were providing closure for the whole story.  And a trilogy kinda "feels right" so it kinda made sense to stop there, even if it wasn't planned that way from the beginning.

But you're right; there's no reason to assume this will suck or anything.  I didn't think Toy Story 3 would be any good, either, and it blew me away, so hey, maybe this one will, too.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on November 07, 2014, 04:16:41 PM
Just saw Interstellar and thought it was absolutely fanstastic. Best movie of the year so far.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on November 07, 2014, 04:19:13 PM
Just saw Interstellar and thought it was absolutely fanstastic. Best movie of the year so far.

Holy fuck what a film.

Yes the ending is a bit "Huh?" but everything up til then is just cinematic joy.

The voyage through the first wormhole is like " Oh. My. God. "  :omg: 

The film builds perfectly and there's never a boring moment in almost 3 hours.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on November 07, 2014, 04:21:14 PM
I just got home from Interstellar and I loved it. I'm not gonna go into detail and spoil anything, so I will try to summarize some brief reflections without giving plot points away:

*The movie does leave some questions up in the air, questions that may or may not get answered upon more viewings. It's not a flawless script, but a very ambitious one. If you are one of those who like to nitpick and find problems, you will probably stumble upon several here. Personally it didn't bother me actually. I had a few minor problems, or rather questions with a few things that happened early on during the plot, but it all fell into place in the third act, and those questions I had early on, got answered in a fulfilling way IMO.

*What really lifted this movie the most apart from the ambitious concept and visual spectacle was the performances. They were all amazing across the board, and apart from performances, this could perhaps be the Nolan movie with the best emotional core to it. The father/daughter relationship worked really well, and I was along for the emotional ride the movie takes you on. There's also a couple of turns during the plot, and it was heartbreaking in many ways to see these characters make decisions based on humankind and its survival, rather than for their own lives, families and so on.

*Musically I think this is Hans Zimmer's best work with Nolan. The score was really emotional and powerful when it needed to be, and very majestic at other times. I also appreciated the quiet space scenes, and I thought the jump between loud and quiet worked really well.

*Despite some people complaining about the last hour of the movie, I actually really loved that part. It didn't bother me at all, and I was totally into it. Some of the turns I could see coming (I guess I know my Nolan by now), but others were unexpected even for me.

I don't want to rate a movie that I just saw and have only seen once, but as far as an overall spectacle goes, this has to be up there with the best movies of the year for me. Again, some people will dislike it, they might find the pacing slow or might not just be the biggest Nolan fans, but as someone who loves Nolan and holds him as my favorite director, this movie really did it for me. Again, the performances and the emotional core really took this movie to another level, combined with the amazing visuals of space travel of course.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on November 07, 2014, 04:23:02 PM
Yes the ending is a bit "Huh?" but everything up til then is just cinematic joy.

I didn't have a problem with the ending. Who knows, I just came out of the theater half an hour ago, so after some to digest that might change. But as of right now I loved every part of it.

It had the vibe of a really cool Arthur C. Clarke novel. Which was awesome.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on November 07, 2014, 04:30:38 PM
I love that thing Nolan does where he'll set up a question and then show you it instead of having two characters just talk about it.

E.g. " There is an other option...."  cut to new location with the 'answer'.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on November 07, 2014, 07:03:34 PM
Just saw Interstellar and thought it was absolutely fanstastic. Best movie of the year so far.

Holy fuck what a film.

Yes the ending is a bit "Huh?" but everything up til then is just cinematic joy.

The voyage through the first wormhole is like " Oh. My. God. "  :omg: 

The film builds perfectly and there's never a boring moment in almost 3 hours.

I got to see it again in IMAX last night. Sadly it wasn't the 70mm, but it was IMAX nonetheless. The space sequences were divine.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The King in Crimson on November 07, 2014, 10:04:01 PM
Man, the Nolan-hype train is in full force here. Hopefully I'll be able to see Intersmeller tomorrow if I can drag some of my shitty friends along with me.

Just watched A Most Wanted Man, which was a very good, albeit incredibly slow paced spy thriller. Phillip Seymour Hoffman was excellent in it. Damn, his talent will be missed.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Accelerando on November 07, 2014, 11:56:52 PM
I'm so glad people are loving Interstellar! Truly a marvel of a film

Speaking of Marvel...


BIG HERO 6. Disney has done it again, and it is the best looking animated film i've seen since Wall-E I think. The movie is just so damned good. Disney is truly in a new renaissance era, starting with Tangled, then Winnie The Pooh, Wreck It Ralph, Frozen, and now Big Hero 6, which is probably the best of them all imo.

Very important to stay though the credits!!! You'll lose your minds when you see why  :metal
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MiracleSleeper on November 08, 2014, 05:43:13 AM
Interstellar sucked...

...the life out of me and converted into pure love.


Wut?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on November 08, 2014, 05:53:28 AM
Am I the only one feeling that Interstellar felt rushed sometimes?
I enjoyed seeing the movie but it was not what I expected.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MiracleSleeper on November 08, 2014, 06:05:51 AM
Am I the only one feeling that Interstellar felt rushed sometimes?
I enjoyed seeing the movie but it was not what I expected.
I would have loved an extra 20 minutes, but I think that would be too much for general audiences.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on November 08, 2014, 06:08:05 AM
Am I the only one feeling that Interstellar felt rushed sometimes?
I enjoyed seeing the movie but it was not what I expected.
I would have loved an extra 20 minutes, but I think that would be too much for general audiences.


When Coop went into the black hole I had no idea what to expect. I thought it was going to be something super scary.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on November 08, 2014, 06:42:06 AM
I GUESS SPOILERS


Yeah I was genuinely frightened when he wen't beyond the even horizon. Black holes are in my opinion some of the scariest things in the universe. I was expecting disturbing spaghettification and some twisted ass images once he reached the singularity.

Him ejecting himself out of the ship didn't help the feeling of naked and exposed fear either.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on November 08, 2014, 07:08:06 AM
Am I the only one feeling that Interstellar felt rushed sometimes?
I enjoyed seeing the movie but it was not what I expected.
I would have loved an extra 20 minutes, but I think that would be too much for general audiences.
Yea they probably cut a fair bit because of the length.

Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: KevShmev on November 08, 2014, 07:36:39 AM
I recently caught Dallas Buyers Club.

McConaughey definitely gave a great performance, one many of us didn't think he was capable of. 

On the flip side, Jennifer Garner is not much of an actress.  "He was my friend, too!" was one of the most cringeworthy lines I've ever heard delivered in a serious film ever. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on November 08, 2014, 07:41:30 AM
Am I the only one feeling that Interstellar felt rushed sometimes?
I enjoyed seeing the movie but it was not what I expected.
I would have loved an extra 20 minutes, but I think that would be too much for general audiences.
Yea they probably cut a fair bit because of the length.

I'm not entirely sure what they could have cut out, aside from parts of the first act. But I know for a fact that isn't the case, because I've read the original draft of the script (back when it was going to be directed by Spielberg) and it's the one act that Nolan didn't drastically change in his film (aside from turning Murph into a girl and adding in the ghost element).

The only other thing that comes to mind is maybe a segment or two from that first world they travel to, but I can't think of anything more that could be present there.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jingle.boy on November 08, 2014, 08:03:52 AM
I watched Team America for the first time yesterday.... I was really disappointed.

You are a terrible person.   :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on November 08, 2014, 08:50:14 AM
Am I the only one feeling that Interstellar felt rushed sometimes?
I enjoyed seeing the movie but it was not what I expected.
I would have loved an extra 20 minutes, but I think that would be too much for general audiences.
Yea they probably cut a fair bit because of the length.

I'm not entirely sure what they could have cut out, aside from parts of the first act. But I know for a fact that isn't the case, because I've read the original draft of the script (back when it was going to be directed by Spielberg) and it's the one act that Nolan didn't drastically change in his film (aside from turning Murph into a girl and adding in the ghost element).

The only other thing that comes to mind is maybe a segment or two from that first world they travel to, but I can't think of anything more that could be present there.


Nothing against Spielberg at all but i'm so glad Nolan made this. It suited his style / feel / look like a glove.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on November 08, 2014, 08:53:55 AM
*HERE BE SPOILERS*










I was hoping the end of the movie wasn't going to be Coop stuck behind the bookcase for eternity - that would have been a huge downbeat ending !





*SPOILER ENDRUU !!! *
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 08, 2014, 10:48:08 AM
Am I the only one feeling that Interstellar felt rushed sometimes?
I enjoyed seeing the movie but it was not what I expected.
I would have loved an extra 20 minutes, but I think that would be too much for general audiences.
Yea they probably cut a fair bit because of the length.

I could have watched another hour!! I loved the movie....I like that it appealed to all audiences....meaning the scientific brained and spiritual/emotional minded people. To me Nolan did a good job of infusing those two aspects of our humanity. It goes without saying that the imagery was incredible....it was a really good movie. McConaughey is just in the zone when it comes to his last few efforts, to say he carried the movie would be an understatment.

I got the sense of the way the movie ended that if it were done correctly/creatively.....possible sequal?

Anyway....good movie and I'm not ashamed enough to admit that I had some tears welling up there when Cooper finally made it back to Murphy and they had that moment in the hospital....as a parent....it was a great reward to see him keep his word to his daughter and see her tell him she knew that he'd keep his promise.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on November 08, 2014, 10:59:11 AM
MILD SPOILER


There were several tear-up moments for me. One of them was when Coop and Brand got back to the ship after 23 years and Cooper watched through the video messages. I was not expecting that form of all-out crying from Cooper, and it really hit me.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on November 08, 2014, 06:09:52 PM
* A SPOILER IS IT ! *




My brother and I both laughed at the moment when Matt Damon's character is giving his big speech about humanity and he is interrupted mid sentence by the airlock's explosive decompression.






* SAFE TO READ NOW IT IS *




I also loved the shot of the Lander craft doing it's spiral descent onto Miller's planet then doing that banking stop. Awesome.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 08, 2014, 06:36:27 PM
* A SPOILER IS IT ! *




My brother and I both laughed at the moment when Matt Damon's character is giving his big speech about humanity and he is interrupted mid sentence by the airlock's explosive decompression.






* SAFE TO READ NOW IT IS *




I also loved the shot of the Lander craft doing it's spiral descent onto Miller's planet then doing that banking stop. Awesome.


Yeah....both those moments were killer!!! Especially that landing!! :metal
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on November 08, 2014, 06:50:15 PM
I loved all the shots of the ships in flight - and especially when you see the lander attempting to . . .


* SPOILER PROBS *




... catch up and dock with an out of control Endurance. SO good.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 08, 2014, 07:52:40 PM
Since there's a lot of discussion about Interstellar, maybe you guys should make a new thread for it, so you don't have to worry about spoilers for people who haven't seen it yet. :tup
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 08, 2014, 07:56:56 PM
Since there's a lot of discussion about Interstellar, maybe you guys should make a new thread for it, so you don't have to worry about spoilers for people who haven't seen it yet. :tup

That's an out of this world idea......
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on November 08, 2014, 11:55:40 PM
So a few people who claimed to catch early screenings for Dumb and Dumber To are saying it's pretty fantastic. Most importantly, they were made nervous by the crappy trailers as well, apparently.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2096672/reviews?ref_=tt_urv
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on November 09, 2014, 01:50:50 PM
Hmm, interesting.

Watched Dreams of a Life last night, a documentary (recently referenced by Steven Wilson as inspiration for his new album) about a woman who was found in her apartment after being dead three years. Really just baffling, but there are some possible explanations for how it happened. Very sad and eerie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on November 12, 2014, 01:03:01 AM
Dawn of the Planet of the Apes was so immensely fucking badass. Infinitely better than I expected and a worthy successor to the original that expands and succeeds it in every way. I really, REALLY fuckin' hope they continue the trend of supporting the jaw-droppingly human style of the mo-cap style that Serkis has perfected...in every sense of the word, along with the incredible story telling; it was truly the perfect balance of cinematic exposition and wonderfully immersive story. Such a powerful movie. I'm both extremely excited and terrified of the next one, because it's either gonna suck some massive shit or it's going to bring about one of the best trilogies known to man. I should note that while I missed it in theaters, I watched it in my spoiled-as-hell friend's home theater, and I literally mean a home theater. It's almost as large as an AMC screen but with a better sound system and slightly smaller screen, but it was still all-encompassing and should absolutely be seen as such if possible. The CGI and cinematography did wonders for it, but the story was great. I found myself rooting for the apes the entire time with the small exception of a few good humans, but mostly I wanted the apes to tear the humans apart. It's a back and forth that's pretty epic.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on November 12, 2014, 01:32:07 AM
Dawn of the Planets of the Apes was amazing.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 12, 2014, 04:21:36 AM
Dawn of the Planet of the Apes is one of my favourite movies in a long time. I can't wait to get it on DVD and watch it again.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on November 12, 2014, 07:55:44 AM
Was that the most recent one, or the first reboot? The one where we see Caesar born and escape from the monkey facility? If so, I fucking love that movie. I haven't seen the latest one yet, but I really want to.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on November 12, 2014, 07:58:19 AM
Was that the most recent one, or the first reboot? The one where we see Caesar born and escape from the monkey facility? If so, I fucking love that movie. I haven't seen the latest one yet, but I really want to.

Dawn was the most recent one. It's fantastic. Right there with Interstellar and Nightcrawler as one of the best films I've seen all year long.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 12, 2014, 07:59:51 AM
Was that the most recent one, or the first reboot? The one where we see Caesar born and escape from the monkey facility? If so, I fucking love that movie. I haven't seen the latest one yet, but I really want to.

The first rebooted movie was Rise, Dawn is the sequel, which I think is even better than the first one. From the very opening scene you know that the apes are real characters, and not just CG eye candy.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on November 12, 2014, 10:03:36 AM
Yes, completely. It's amazing what they've done and Serkis is so dominating as Caesar. Beyond that though, the human characters are either so great or so utterly detestable (that damn baldy...). It's a great film and I was pretty surprised by how much I loved it. I really, truly hope they can continue this trend with the next one, cause if they do then I could see that one being just absolutely an epic for the ages.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 12, 2014, 10:08:21 AM
I'd like to see an 'in between' movie.....the battle between ape and mankind.....prior to the space expedition returning to find the earth dominated by apes. I think that'd be pretty cool. Presumably Caesar would perish in most likely an honorable, heroic way to further preserve and solidify his legend.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: faizoff on November 13, 2014, 10:26:25 PM
I'll paste my thoughts from mp.com

Spoilers obviously below
 
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Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Jaffa on November 13, 2014, 10:46:13 PM
This post contains Interstellar spoilers.  Do not read it if you have not seen the movie.

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Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dark Castle on November 14, 2014, 12:07:12 AM
Finally watched The Prestige tonight, top shelf movie
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 14, 2014, 06:46:20 AM
THERE IS AN ENTIRE THREAD FOR INTERSTELLAR SPOILERS.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on November 14, 2014, 10:39:27 AM
Jesus fuck, no fucking shit. Faizoff just randomly starts talking about Intersteller with absolutely no indication at all. SPOILERS FOR WHAT MOVIE!? I was reading it thinking it was about Dawn/Apes. That was way too close.  >:( :censored :censored :censored
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on November 14, 2014, 11:17:39 AM
THERE IS AN ENTIRE THREAD FOR INTERSTELLAR SPOILERS.










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Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on November 14, 2014, 11:35:46 AM
 :\ Really? It was warranted, especially since the post that started it wasn't remotely indicating that it was spoiling Interstellar until he started talking about the plot.

I REEAAALLY wanna see Nightcrawler. It looks awesomely horrifying and in the past handful of years I've become a pretty big fan of 'ole Jake. I've heard the comparison before, but he really does remind me of an American Psycho and (to a lesser extent) The Machinist version of Christian Bale, which is a very good thing.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on November 14, 2014, 11:37:39 AM
Finally watched The Prestige tonight, top shelf movie

It's great. Has a really cool creepy vibe throughout. Probably my 2nd favourite Nolan movie after Inception. Probably Memento third.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on November 14, 2014, 04:47:50 PM
THERE IS AN ENTIRE THREAD FOR INTERSTELLAR SPOILERS.

Is that the Asylum version?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on November 14, 2014, 05:27:55 PM
Burrrrrrrrrrrrrn.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: faizoff on November 14, 2014, 07:46:27 PM
Sorry didn't see the interstellar thread. I'll post there.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dark Castle on November 15, 2014, 01:44:31 AM
Alien just might be my favorite movie of all time
Just as scary and tense and perfect as each previous watch
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: adace on November 15, 2014, 02:48:26 AM
Some movies I've seen in the past month or so:

Interstellar - A bit flawed science/plot-wise but still amazing and already one of my favorite sci-fi films.

Big Hero 6 - Just one of the best animated films I've seen. Incredible animation, great sci-fi ideas, and really fun action sequences. A great watch overall.

John Wick - The action is pretty good, but I can't get over the silly premise. Wasn't really worth watching imo.

Dracula Untold - It's refreshing to see a movie that actually takes a look at the original tale of Dracula instead of all the Twilight nonsense. It was really cool to see the historical circumstances and how he was led to become the monster. Really solid movie.

The Taking of Deborah Logan - Extremely creepy horror movie. It's basically about a woman with Alzheimer's who's possessed by a demonic force (not a spoiler since it's in the trailer). Probably my favorite horror film of the year.

Automata - Sure, the premise of robots wanting to become human is fairly cliched at this point, but this film approaches it from the mystery angle so it still feels very original. Beautiful, emotional scenes too. This one should be way more popular.

The Woman in Black - The film version of Susan Hill's novel sticks pretty closely to the original text except for the ending which is a major departure. I think the book was a lot creepier, but I definitely enjoyed the movie. Looking forward to the sequel next year.

Dredd - Fantastic homage to 80's action/sci-fi films. Karl Urban is a total badass. This reminded me a lot of The Raid.

The Maze Runner - I was initially put off by the fact that it's a "young adult" film but ended up liking it a lot. And having read the summaries of the books, I can tell that the sequels are gonna be really interesting as well.

Planning to watch Fury soon, heard really good things about it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 15, 2014, 04:36:02 AM
THERE IS AN ENTIRE THREAD FOR INTERSTELLAR SPOILERS.

Is that the Asylum version?
I don't get the reference.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on November 15, 2014, 05:38:30 PM
Just watch Lucy

Its was pretty good.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: adace on November 15, 2014, 06:11:02 PM
Just watch Lucy

Its was pretty good.
Honestly, I thought that movie was really dumb. Ridiculous premise and the powers she acquires at the end are even more ridiculous. Much more fantasy than sci-fi. But it was a pretty entertaining film with some good action scenes.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on November 15, 2014, 06:56:54 PM
Moviefest with our godson tonight.

X-Men Days Of Future Past
How To Train Your Dragon II
Captain America Winter Soldier

Oh and homemade bacon pizza.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on November 15, 2014, 07:24:04 PM
THERE IS AN ENTIRE THREAD FOR INTERSTELLAR SPOILERS.

Is that the Asylum version?
I don't get the reference.

bad spelling
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on November 15, 2014, 09:07:50 PM
THERE IS AN ENTIRE THREAD FOR INTERSTELLAR SPOILERS.

Is that the Asylum version?
I don't get the reference.



bad spelling

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Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on November 15, 2014, 09:51:33 PM
Yes.
:rollin :lol :corn
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on November 16, 2014, 03:14:20 AM
You forgot some of the best ones, like:

Transmorphers
Snakes on a Train
The Terminators
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 16, 2014, 05:13:55 AM
OK
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: cramx3 on November 17, 2014, 07:24:11 AM
Saw Dumb and Dumber To last night and it was actually enjoyable.  Clearly ripped off many of the same jokes from the first one, but I found the movie to be pretty funny.  I didnt expect it to be good so I was pleasantly surprised.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on November 17, 2014, 09:25:09 AM
Saw Dumb and Dumber To last night and it was actually enjoyable.  Clearly ripped off many of the same jokes from the first one, but I found the movie to be pretty funny.  I didnt expect it to be good so I was pleasantly surprised.

I was actually pleasantly surprised as well.   Though, I thought it was a slow start.   In any comedy such as this, there is always a bunch of sight gags to set up the characters before the actual story starts...  IMO, all the "set up" comedy at the beginning fell completely flat, and about 20 minutes in I noticed that I had not laughed the entire film, and neither had anyone else in the audience (the catheter scene from the trailer got uncomfortable chuckles, and that was about it).   I started to get the feeling that this movie was going to be painfully bad.    But as the story got started, it actually improved quite a bit.  The jokes got better, and there was an actual  semi-decent plot line to follow, and I ended up enjoying it quite a bit.

If the first one was a 10/10, this was a 7/10 and actually a bit better than I would have expected. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: cramx3 on November 17, 2014, 09:39:14 AM
Yea well that intro was also almost entirely in the extended trailer so it wasnt funny to me because I had seen it.  But yea, by midway through the movie, there were a lot of good laughs.  I think a 7/10 is fair.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on November 17, 2014, 05:09:48 PM
I think the sequel to Dawn Of The Planet Of The Apes should be called "Apes On A Horse", cause that still looks rad as fuck. Plus multiple apes on a horse would be awesome. The horse should be voiced by Sam Jackson after Cesar finds a stash of the old drug and gives it to his horse cause he's awesome. These are really good idea, guys. Let's make it happen.  :police:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on November 18, 2014, 07:20:15 PM
I think the sequel to Dawn Of The Planet Of The Apes should be called "Apes On A Horse", cause that still looks rad as fuck. Plus multiple apes on a horse would be awesome. The horse should be voiced by Sam Jackson after Cesar finds a stash of the old drug and gives it to his horse cause he's awesome. These are really good idea, guys. Let's make it happen.  :police:

The commonly hoped for title is "War of the Planet of the Apes." That'd be pretty damn epic and fitting, I think. :tup

Out of curiosity, here's a question for everyone: Who are your Top 3 Directors of All Time?

In no particular order...
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on November 18, 2014, 07:24:49 PM
That'd be cool! I'd be alright with that. I just await the day the classic, simple "Planet of the Apes" comes. Somehow with these longer titles now, that one just seems more ominous and badass.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Outcrier on November 18, 2014, 08:06:17 PM
Out of curiosity, here's a question for everyone: Who are your Top 3 Directors of All Time?

Akira Kurosawa
Stanley Kubrick
Masaki Kobayashi
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on November 18, 2014, 08:12:05 PM
Lars Von Trier (He has movies that I don't like, but when he makes a good one it's nearly unmatchable)
Michael Haneke
Spike Jonze
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The King in Crimson on November 18, 2014, 08:31:09 PM
Out of curiosity, here's a question for everyone: Who are your Top 3 Directors of All Time?

In no particular order...
  • Stanley Kubrick
  • Ingmar Bergman
  • Akira Kurosawa
Probably

Fincher
Aronofsky
Kubrick

Lynch is up there too. Same with Nicholas Winding Refn. All of them deliver fantastic visual experiences even if the films themselves leave me cold.

I've only seen one Kurosawa and Bergman film and they were both... okay but I need to watch more before I form an opinion.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on November 18, 2014, 08:56:11 PM
Out of curiosity, here's a question for everyone: Who are your Top 3 Directors of All Time?

In no particular order...
  • Stanley Kubrick
  • Ingmar Bergman
  • Akira Kurosawa
Probably

Fincher
Aronofsky
Kubrick

Lynch is up there too. Same with Nicholas Winding Refn. All of them deliver fantastic visual experiences even if the films themselves leave me cold.

I've only seen one Kurosawa and Bergman film and they were both... okay but I need to watch more before I form an opinion.

Out of curiosity, which films did you see by Kurosawa and Bergman? Both of 'em had a TON of films and admittedly not all of 'em were masterpieces. But their highlights are nothing short of breathtaking. Kurosawa's best films, imo, were Rashomon, Ran and Ikiru. My favorite Bergman films are Persona, Winter Light, The Seventh Seal and Cries & Whispers. :tup
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The King in Crimson on November 18, 2014, 09:11:04 PM
The Kurosawa film I saw was High and Low which was... okay. Well acted but it just didn't do much for me.

The Bergman film was The Seventh Seal. It was interesting but I just have the feeling that it's one I need to watch again in order to get. Or appreciate.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on November 18, 2014, 09:22:53 PM
The Kurosawa film I saw was High and Low which was... okay. Well acted but it just didn't do much for me.

The Bergman film was The Seventh Seal. It was interesting but I just have the feeling that it's one I need to watch again in order to get. Or appreciate.

I think I tried watching H&L awhile back, but I never finished it. I'd have to go back and watch the whole thing to decide what my opinion on it would be. Try out Rashomon or Seven Samurai sometime soon, you'd probably enjoy either film a lot. Rashomon is the original Memento and Seven Samurai is probably the single most influential action film of all time. Ikiru is more experimental and unusual by Kurosawa's standards and Ran is one of the most absolute bleak films ever (it rivals Rashomon and Ikiru for my favorite Kurosawa film).

The Seventh Seal is incredible, but it is a film that needs to be watched multiple times, as is the case for practically any Bergman film. However it's very different from the other standouts in Bergman's filmography, as it acts more as an allegorical story, set in the Dark Ages. Winter Light and Persona both are set during the Cold War, while Cries & Whispers seems to be set in the Victorian era.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on November 18, 2014, 09:59:15 PM
The Wolf of Wallstreet is such a fun film. Funny, when I originally saw it I was stoned out of my mind; now that I've been sober for a while, it seems even more fun. Hrrm...living vicariously is such an interesting trait of humanity. I've heard people say it's a great social commentary and blah blah blah... I can see how it might be, and on that level I don't think I'd like it as much. It's just so hilarious and fun and stupid at points. DiCaprio has become one of my favorite actors and this movie really showcases his wily side perfectly. Good stuff.

Also rewatched Dawn/Apes earlier and I can safely say that it's more than likely going to be my movie of the year. What a fantastic work of art that film is in both acting, cinematography and CGI work. The music, while some nice tracks, isn't a standout point to me, which says a lot about the other factors because usually music is a huge part of a movie for me.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on November 19, 2014, 02:06:28 AM
Yea TWOWS is awesome, the cast is just brilliant. Jon Bernthals character is hilarious.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Xanthul on November 19, 2014, 05:25:19 AM
The Wolf of Wallstreet is such a fun film. Funny, when I originally saw it I was stoned out of my mind; now that I've been sober for a while, it seems even more fun. Hrrm...living vicariously is such an interesting trait of humanity. I've heard people say it's a great social commentary and blah blah blah... I can see how it might be, and on that level I don't think I'd like it as much. It's just so hilarious and fun and stupid at points. DiCaprio has become one of my favorite actors and this movie really showcases his wily side perfectly. Good stuff.

I honestly lost it at the plane scene when he's dry humping the stewardess. I was literally crying on the floor and had to rewind a few times because I couldn't even focus on what was happening afterwards.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: cramx3 on November 19, 2014, 07:22:30 AM
The Wolf of Wallstreet is such a fun film. Funny, when I originally saw it I was stoned out of my mind; now that I've been sober for a while, it seems even more fun. Hrrm...living vicariously is such an interesting trait of humanity. I've heard people say it's a great social commentary and blah blah blah... I can see how it might be, and on that level I don't think I'd like it as much. It's just so hilarious and fun and stupid at points. DiCaprio has become one of my favorite actors and this movie really showcases his wily side perfectly. Good stuff.

I honestly lost it at the plane scene when he's dry humping the stewardess. I was literally crying on the floor and had to rewind a few times because I couldn't even focus on what was happening afterwards.

I enjoyed the scene where he was too fucked up to walk to his car.  Crazy how that is a true story.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on November 19, 2014, 08:20:10 AM
The Wolf of Wallstreet is such a fun film. Funny, when I originally saw it I was stoned out of my mind; now that I've been sober for a while, it seems even more fun. Hrrm...living vicariously is such an interesting trait of humanity. I've heard people say it's a great social commentary and blah blah blah... I can see how it might be, and on that level I don't think I'd like it as much. It's just so hilarious and fun and stupid at points. DiCaprio has become one of my favorite actors and this movie really showcases his wily side perfectly. Good stuff.

I honestly lost it at the plane scene when he's dry humping the stewardess. I was literally crying on the floor and had to rewind a few times because I couldn't even focus on what was happening afterwards.

I enjoyed the scene where he was too fucked up to walk to his car.  Crazy how that is a true story.

This was one of my least favorite Leo movies.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: cramx3 on November 19, 2014, 08:22:59 AM
My only problem with WoWS is that its too similar to other Scorsese movies.  They all seem the same now, guy is really ambitious and does drugs and other illegal activity to get rich and lives in excess and eventually it all comes crumbling down.  WoWS is like the financial version of Goodfellas.  Both movies are great up until the end where they kind of die down just like the main character is going down.  It loses its entertaining value a bit.  But both are awesome movies regardless.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on November 19, 2014, 09:59:20 AM
Honestly I kind of started to get some anxiety and felt uneasy during the Lemmon/Car scene. I've seen people very similar to that in my life, it hit a bit too close to home. But yeah otherwise it was absolutely hilarious, especially the twist that he didn't make it home perfectly; I was floored at first and then was all "Oh. Yeah. That makes sense".

Yes, Bernthal was a riot throughout. For as much as I loved Leo in it though, Jonah Hill was just...he kept me in stitches the entire time; I think he made the most drastic change while still being so utterly ridiculous and believable all at once. The scene when he and Bernthal are exchanging the suitcase on the street and Hill is just fuckin' with him the entire time while the cops watch and at the end of it he gets off free and then when Bernthal is caught...just SCREAMS.  :rollin :rollin Every time, it gets me good.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on November 19, 2014, 11:06:05 AM
I really wanna watch it for the comedy and downfall elements but I'm entirely put off by the pornographic and profanity content.

I know it's based on truth and the comedy comes from how over the top it is - but filth and swearing don't do anything for me at all.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: masterthes on November 19, 2014, 11:09:02 AM
Top 3 directors:
Nolan
Scorcese
Speilberg
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on November 19, 2014, 11:09:35 AM
I really wanna watch it for the comedy and downfall elements but I'm entirely put off by the pornographic and profanity content.

I know it's based on truth and the comedy comes from how over the top it is - but filth and swearing don't do anything for me at all.
I'm not sure how serious you are but it's really not that bad imo.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on November 19, 2014, 11:55:14 AM
I really wanna watch it for the comedy and downfall elements but I'm entirely put off by the pornographic and profanity content.

I know it's based on truth and the comedy comes from how over the top it is - but filth and swearing don't do anything for me at all.
I'm not sure how serious you are but it's really not that bad imo.

I agree. It's like they just threw in as many "fucks" as they could.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dark Castle on November 19, 2014, 12:03:30 PM
I really wanna watch it for the comedy and downfall elements but I'm entirely put off by the pornographic and profanity content.

I know it's based on truth and the comedy comes from how over the top it is - but filth and swearing don't do anything for me at all.
I'm not sure how serious you are but it's really not that bad imo.

I agree. It's like they just threw in as many "fucks" as they could.
It's fitting of the setting and characters that they cuss like Steroid Sailors.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: cramx3 on November 19, 2014, 12:16:04 PM
Also considering they have it on selection on some of my recent flights, i agree, it really isnt that bad.  Vulgar yes, but i didnt think there was anything pornografic at all in it.  Some boobs, yes, but thats all I recall.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: lucky7 on November 19, 2014, 02:45:43 PM
Out of curiosity, here's a question for everyone: Who are your Top 3 Directors of All Time?

Ridley Scott
Frank Darabont
Martin Scorsese
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The King in Crimson on November 19, 2014, 06:26:25 PM
The language is pretty... extreme in WoWS at times, but considering the characters and the style of the movie, it does fit.

Also...
Also considering they have it on selection on some of my recent flights, i agree, it really isnt that bad.  Vulgar yes, but i didnt think there was anything pornografic at all in it.  Some boobs, yes, but thats all I recall.
Agreed. Boobs =/= pornographic.

The Kurosawa film I saw was High and Low which was... okay. Well acted but it just didn't do much for me.

The Bergman film was The Seventh Seal. It was interesting but I just have the feeling that it's one I need to watch again in order to get. Or appreciate.

I think I tried watching H&L awhile back, but I never finished it. I'd have to go back and watch the whole thing to decide what my opinion on it would be. Try out Rashomon or Seven Samurai sometime soon, you'd probably enjoy either film a lot. Rashomon is the original Memento and Seven Samurai is probably the single most influential action film of all time. Ikiru is more experimental and unusual by Kurosawa's standards and Ran is one of the most absolute bleak films ever (it rivals Rashomon and Ikiru for my favorite Kurosawa film).

The Seventh Seal is incredible, but it is a film that needs to be watched multiple times, as is the case for practically any Bergman film. However it's very different from the other standouts in Bergman's filmography, as it acts more as an allegorical story, set in the Dark Ages. Winter Light and Persona both are set during the Cold War, while Cries & Whispers seems to be set in the Victorian era.
Pretty much all of those movies have been sitting in my Netflix queue for a while. I'll get around to them, eventually I hope.

I'll have to add those other Bergman films to my queue. I'm pretty sure they're not in there. Thanks for the suggestions. :)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on November 20, 2014, 11:14:27 PM
It's that time again! The Starz Denver Film Festival has been going for a little over a week now and we've got three days left. I've been volunteering my ass off and have so far seen a few movies. Saw several excellent short films that I won't detail here, as well as:

Hotline- a documentary about people who work hotlines, including suicide, phone sex, and psychic- MISS CLEO is in it! Interesting stuff. Slow at times, but I enjoyed it and got to talk to the director a bit about it afterwards which was cool.

Killers- a twisted and fun Japanese-Indonesian flick about a psychopath who inspires a journalist to kill. Insane!

Human Capital- a gorgeous Italian film about two intertwined families and how fucked the way we value money (and consequently people) is, basically. It tells the same story from several different perspectives and reveals more as it goes along, and it does this all very well/without confusion.

The Tribe- a beautiful and fucked-up story about a kid who enters a school for the deaf and gets sucked into a gang, basically. It's entirely in sign language with no subtitles, but you don't need them anyway. Really amazing- if you can see this, do it.

Mr. Kaplan- an old Jewish man questioning whether he's made an impact on the world wants to kidnap a suspected Nazi and bring him to justice- actually a lot funnier than it sounds!

I Believe in Unicorns- a teenage girl who doesn't have much of a life (caring for her disabled mom) and lives in her own fantasy world decides to run away with a badass boy she just met. I liked it, but not as much as some of the other people who saw it. Has some cool stop motion animation and other visual things I enjoyed. Shot gorgeously on film.

That's it so far. Seeing one tomorrow night, four on Saturday, and now probably a few on Sunday because I worked enough hours to get a platinum volunteer badge (which gets me into any screening with availability)  :D

So far some of the highlights of my volunteering have been getting to pick several up people from the airport in a sweet ride (and talk to them about their movies/life in general), getting to meet Leo Fitzpatrick (who will forever haunt me as Telly in Kids), and talking to two of Robin Williams' friends. Also, making about $35 in coat check tips. It's been a blast but I'm fucking exhausted.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on November 21, 2014, 11:57:53 AM
SO I just watched The Avengers (Couldn't find the official thread). Keep in mind, the only super hero movies I've seen are the latest Hulk movie and the Spiderman movies with Toby McGuire.

What a total snooze fest. I'm sorry, but people bitched that Avatar was a predictable CGI wank fest? There was only one way this movie could have gone from the 30 minute mark. Not to mention that the twenty minute fight seen was basically the ending to Independence Day without the fighter jets. And the corny one-liners from Iron Man throughout... totally lame. The only redeemable thing about this movie was when the Hulk slammed Loki around a few times. Captain America, in my opinion, was a laughably bad character, and I don't really understand why he was there.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 21, 2014, 12:07:21 PM
Godammit Chino
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on November 21, 2014, 12:12:40 PM
Somebody check Chino's temp.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on November 21, 2014, 12:16:29 PM
Welp. Opinions!

Although I'm not sure why the comparison to Avatar was needed considering...pretty sure no one else did, nor have I seen Avengers called a 'predictable CGI wank-fest'. Ya seem a little sour, there...

I mean, do you think the CGI was bad in Avengers? If you're not all that into superhero movies, I can see why you wouldn't like it all that much; myself, as a superhero/comic aficionado, didn't gush over Avengers (okay I did at the time; in hindsight I enjoyed it enough though, I thought it was fun). But the CGI, not even mentioning that Avengers came out years after Avatar, in my opinion, was very well done. Mainly referencing the Hulk himself, that actually looked like Ruffalo had bulked up into green humanoid monster.

Either way your opinion goes, I'm not sure you realize that this is a film that is catering to a huge demographic of comic/superhero fans, young, old and everyone in between. One-liners and a certain cheese-factor come along with that. Not liking it is one thing but if you're not a fan of the genre or don't know much about it, you gotta expect to not know certain nods, quips, etc. Iron Man IS a one-liner. A badass, genius billionare one-liner in a technological powerhouse of a suit. Eh! (https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mNiijgURwOk/VCGwccjV8cI/AAAAAAAAdQs/fuuV-tDFQyI/s1600/shrug.gif)

Again, being ignorant (please don't take that as an insult, everyone is ignorant of something, and...well, clearly you are of superhero stuff; totally fine) of the MCU, what they're doing with this film, what it's for; certain aspects of the film, certain characters, are there specifically to set-up something more. This film is VERY MUCH a link to expand the universe. You could say that is it's sole purpose, to bring all these singular heroes together so that they can expand it with a specific story, backdrop and purpose. Captain America is a great example of that because you're right, he really doesn't do all THAT MUCH in the film in terms of the big picture. How can he when he's a mere superhuman, but they're fighting gods, a gigantic alien colossus and an army of otherworldly beings? He fights the peons alright, but his main purpose is as a *GASP* 'captain'. Notice the scene whenever everyone is in disarray and he jumps in to command the normal humans on how to do what they can, and then makes a plan to fight the enemy, conducting even the superheroes to do their specific jobs.

It also sets up certain future movies. That last part is the most important thing, again; setting up a bigger universe and then having more singular movies to once again have them come back for an even larger threat (I doubt you watched until the end, but if you did, the big purple guy is basically MCU's version of Satan, if not worse...considering he wants to fuck Death incarnate).
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on November 21, 2014, 12:20:20 PM
The Avengers is definitely a movie for people who like super hero movies.  It sounds like you don't, so a super hero movie on steroids, not surprisingly, wouldn't appeal to you.  But a lot of people like most or all of these characters, and seeing them all together is pretty cool if you're into it.  Yeah, the story wasn't great, but it's practically (or entirely) secondary to the action and one-liners.  That's just Iron Man's character, and RDJ portrays him perfectly.  Tony Stark is a smartass, an arrogant asshole to be blunt.  Captain America is pretty lame as far as super heroes go.  And so on.  But again, if you're the target audience, it was a great film.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on November 21, 2014, 12:22:54 PM
That's not universally true. I have basically no interest in any superhero movies, and don't know anything about superheroes really, but I loved the Avengers, primarily due to Whedon's involvement.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on November 21, 2014, 12:24:25 PM
I don't mind superheroes, but I find superhero movies to be almost universally mediocre.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 21, 2014, 12:39:05 PM
It was also the culmination of Iron Man, Iron Man 2, The Incredible Hulk, Thor, and Captain America: The First Avenger.  It probably won't be as enjoyable to someone who didn't see all 5 of the preceeding films as it is to someone who did. 

Or to people who grew up reading the comics the characters are based on.

Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Outcrier on November 21, 2014, 01:12:01 PM
I'm not a fan or anything but these Superhero movies are getting better and better.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on November 21, 2014, 01:48:49 PM
I'm familiar with most of the characters, but mostly through my friend who was a huge comic book fan when we were growing up.  So I don't know them inside and out.  My understanding is that some fans aren't thrilled with the way the characters have been changed, but that's true of any adaption from print to film, whether it's a novel, comic book, or whatever.  Most seemed happy that their heroes were finally getting a big-screen treatment with a decent budget and a serious attempt to make them "real".

I think the Iron Man flicks are carried largely on Robert Downey, Jr.'s charisma and the fact that he's perfect for the role, although that first one had a great script and launched things very nicely.  With the Thor movies, it also seems more about the actors and the characters than the stories.  I'm not a huge fan of either Captain America or The Incredible Hulk, and I found those to be the weaker ones, though there might be some correlation there.

I hadn't considered the Whedon factor with The Avengers, and should have.  That guy is gifted at writing for an ensemble cast and bringing out the best in each character and each actor involved.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Lucien on November 21, 2014, 01:50:48 PM
I thought Captain America 2 was awesome, and it's probably my third favorite under Avengers and Guardians of the Galaxy.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on November 21, 2014, 02:02:40 PM
Perhaps we should take the discussion to the Marvel thread?  :lol

Forgot that Chino can't scroll...  :'(
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 22, 2014, 05:28:20 AM
Watched The LEGO Movie with my kids last night.  Holy crap, what a fun movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Bolsters on November 22, 2014, 05:44:02 AM
What a total snooze fest. I'm sorry, but people bitched that Avatar was a predictable CGI wank fest? There was only one way this movie could have gone from the 30 minute mark. Not to mention that the twenty minute fight seen was basically the ending to Independence Day without the fighter jets. And the corny one-liners from Iron Man throughout... totally lame. The only redeemable thing about this movie was when the Hulk slammed Loki around a few times. Captain America, in my opinion, was a laughably bad character, and I don't really understand why he was there.
You know, take out the comment about the one-liners and this is basically how I feel about Avatar. :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jingle.boy on November 22, 2014, 06:19:44 AM
Watched The LEGO Movie with my kids last night.  Holy crap, what a fun movie.

Totally.  Watched it in the theater with the family, and have the Blu-Ray... still haven't gotten around to re-watching it yet, but will soon.

@ Blosters...  :rollin

Came in here to post this that I saw on FB this morning:

Quote
Stephen King's "The Stand" will be spread out across four separate feature films, director and writer Josh Boone confirmed this week, ending months of speculation on how King’s sprawling saga would translate to the big screen.

“So what happened is the script gets finished, I write it in like five months, everybody loves it, King loves it, $87 million is what it was budgeted at, really expensive for a horror drama that doesn't have set pieces,” Boone said.

But Warner Bros. loved Boone’s writing so much, they wanted more of it—four times the amount, to be exact. After all, almost every franchise film needs a Pt.2 these days. Warner Bros. also did away with Boone’s projected $87 million budget, giving him stacks of more cash (he didn’t disclose the exact amount) to make The Stand a true blockbuster. 

“So I think we are going to do like four movies,” Boone said.

Kewl.  Also, King is still committed to getting The Dark Tower on screen somehow, somewhere.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on November 22, 2014, 08:37:53 AM
I am so in love with both of those books that I cannot possibly imagine anything close to a proper adaptation. Now, before I get all gung-ho, I am ALL for interpretations and changes in movies and expect them fully and completely. What I don't like is raping the book's material (what I consider what I Am Legend did), especially if the material is more or less objectively worse, less inspired, less exciting, interesting, etc. (I know, subjective, but shit bro). If they make either of those stories anywhere near as isolating, intriguing, mysterious and/or horrifying, I'll be okay. I mean, just a smidgen, that's all I want.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on November 22, 2014, 08:50:00 AM
SO I just watched The Avengers (Couldn't find the official thread). Keep in mind, the only super hero movies I've seen are the latest Hulk movie and the Spiderman movies with Toby McGuire.

What a total snooze fest. I'm sorry, but people bitched that Avatar was a predictable CGI wank fest? There was only one way this movie could have gone from the 30 minute mark. Not to mention that the twenty minute fight seen was basically the ending to Independence Day without the fighter jets. And the corny one-liners from Iron Man throughout... totally lame. The only redeemable thing about this movie was when the Hulk slammed Loki around a few times. Captain America, in my opinion, was a laughably bad character, and I don't really understand why he was there.
The same could be said about Transformers: Age of Extinction. I fell asleep 3 times!

Mark Wahlberg trying to act as a concerning dad in the midst of all that chaos was just aweful!  :lol
I love transformers as an movie idea but I really hate the human interactions, we are so fragile compared to them. I would really lika a Transformers movie without any humans but I guess that would never happen.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: KevShmev on November 22, 2014, 08:55:52 AM
I saw Argo recently.  Very good flick.  I'm not a big Affleck fan when it comes to acting, but he was fine in this role, and his directing was very good. 

And this reminds me: not only are the "the book was better" people annoying when it comes to books that are made into movies, but the "the movie wasn't 100% completely historically accurate" people are even worse.  Who freaking cares?  If I want 100% historical accuracy, I'll watch a freaking documentary. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 22, 2014, 09:32:39 AM
I thought Argo was fantastic.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on November 23, 2014, 12:11:26 AM
Holy shit guys, I saw an AMAZING movie today called The Man Who Saved the World. Basically it's about this Russian guy who saved us all from nuclear war in 1983 but nobody knows who he is. I don't have a ton to say at the moment other than SEE IT. Gorgeous. I cried like four times. And laughed a lot, too.

Also saw a doc about Long Beach Island in NJ after Hurricane Sandy (This Time Next Year), a fun German/Austrian/Swiss flick about a friendship that develops between a book-dealing crook and a Nazi psychologist (Superegos), and Kumiko, The Treasure Hunter, about a Japanese woman who comes to the US to try and find the treasure in Fargo. Weiiiiird.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on November 24, 2014, 08:37:22 AM
I saw Argo recently.  Very good flick.  I'm not a big Affleck fan when it comes to acting, but he was fine in this role, and his directing was very good. 

And this reminds me: not only are the "the book was better" people annoying when it comes to books that are made into movies, but the "the movie wasn't 100% completely historically accurate" people are even worse.  Who freaking cares?  If I want 100% historical accuracy, I'll watch a freaking documentary.

Argo fuck yourself.


Great flick.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on November 24, 2014, 11:26:20 AM
Finally saw Captain America: The Winter Soldier.  As many have said, it was very good.  They somehow took the most boring of the original Avengers and made him interesting, basically by actually giving him stuff to do and amping up the action about 1000%.  But it worked, because they couldn't give you time to consider all the huge plot holes or else things would disintegrate into a mindless action flick.  This is of course a mindless super hero action flick.  Totally different genre.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Accelerando on November 24, 2014, 12:08:41 PM
I just saw Nightcrawler. One of the best films i've seen all year! Jake Gyllenhaal was amazing and transformative. I didn't expect it to be as good as it was.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Accelerando on November 24, 2014, 04:24:47 PM
Michelle MacLaren is going to direct "Wonder Woman", and this is fantastic. She directed some of the best episodes of Game of Thrones and Breaking Bad. I think she even directed some Walking Dead as well. Excellent choice.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Nekov on November 25, 2014, 07:13:52 AM
I watched "The perks of being a wallflower" yesterday and it broke something inside of me. Not sure what it is but I feel emotionally unstable today.
Aside from that feeling, it's a lovely movie and it's amazing how it can be so happy and so sad at the same time.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on November 25, 2014, 11:03:50 AM
First trailer for Jurassic World is out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFinNxS5KN4

I'm really excited for this
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on November 25, 2014, 11:09:07 AM
First trailer for Jurassic World is out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFinNxS5KN4

I'm really excited for this

I'm starting a thread about this because I really want to talk about it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on November 25, 2014, 05:15:59 PM
Neat ! Just watched it. Looks better than 3 and more in the spirit of the first one.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Jaffa on November 25, 2014, 10:08:05 PM
I watched "The perks of being a wallflower" yesterday and it broke something inside of me. Not sure what it is but I feel emotionally unstable today.
Aside from that feeling, it's a lovely movie and it's amazing how it can be so happy and so sad at the same time.

I had a very similar experience with that movie.  I went on this weird crying binge after watching it.  It was the way the movie made me reflect on my own life. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: lucky7 on November 28, 2014, 03:35:14 AM
Watched The LEGO Movie with my kids last night.  Holy crap, what a fun movie.

So have you been able to get the song out of your head yet?!  Everything is AWESOME!  :smiley:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: lucky7 on November 28, 2014, 03:39:05 AM
Just saw The Drop that stars Tom Hardy and James Gandolfini written by Dennis Lehane (Mystic River etc)  Great movie!

Anyone seen Horrible Bosses 2 yet?  (Doesn't open in Australia for a few more weeks...)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 28, 2014, 09:42:00 AM
Watched The LEGO Movie with my kids last night.  Holy crap, what a fun movie.

So have you been able to get the song out of your head yet?! 
Yes.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 30, 2014, 12:22:28 PM
Finally saw X-Men :Days of Future Past.  What an unintelligible collection of contradictions.  Fox fails again.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Jaffa on November 30, 2014, 12:28:34 PM
Damn it hef. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on November 30, 2014, 12:36:37 PM
I think X-Men: Days of Future Past has to be mentioned in the same discussions as Avengers and The Dark Knight if you're talking best comic book film. Not only the best X-Men movie IMO, but it really was on that highest level.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on November 30, 2014, 01:00:37 PM
I thought it was just a tad below First Class.  Still loved the movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The King in Crimson on November 30, 2014, 01:04:12 PM
Finally saw X-Men :Days of Future Past.  What an unintelligible collection of contradictions.  Fox fails again.
Disagreed. I liked it but I'd probably ultimately agree with your objections. The movie does exist in its own nebulous void of continuity, where connections to prior films are tenuous or largely hand waved away.

I quite enjoyed it, but X-Men 2 was better IMO.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on November 30, 2014, 01:13:23 PM
Just came back from 'The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part 1', and I loved it. The first movie didn't impress me much. It was an okay young adult action movie, but nothing more. Now after the second and third movie I am really becoming a fan of this series. Really excited to the final one next year.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 30, 2014, 01:24:57 PM
I think X-Men: Days of Future Past has to be mentioned in the same discussions as Avengers and The Dark Knight if you're talking best comic book film. Not only the best X-Men movie IMO, but it really was on that highest level.
I think that is preposterous.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on November 30, 2014, 02:17:09 PM
I think X-Men: Days of Future Past has to be mentioned in the same discussions as Avengers and The Dark Knight if you're talking best comic book film. Not only the best X-Men movie IMO, but it really was on that highest level.
I think that is preposterous.
OK

/hefresponse
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jingle.boy on November 30, 2014, 02:29:26 PM
Finally saw X-Men :Days of Future Past.  What an unintelligible collection of contradictions.  Fox fails again.
Disagreed. I liked it but I'd probably ultimately agree with your objections. The movie does exist in its own nebulous void of continuity, where connections to prior films are tenuous or largely hand waved away.

I quite enjoyed it, but X-Men 2 was better IMO.

This is entirely accurate.  DOFP was still a tad better than 1st class, and much better than X3.  The blatant disconnects and reconnects with the other films in the franchise (including Origins:Wolverine) do grate on me, but once you get past them, it's a fantastic film.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on November 30, 2014, 03:33:37 PM
So basically it comes down to whether or not the discontinuities with other films in the franchise bother you, and how much?  I haven't seen it yet, but this is what the consensus seems to be.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on November 30, 2014, 03:58:22 PM
I think X-Men: Days of Future Past has to be mentioned in the same discussions as Avengers and The Dark Knight if you're talking best comic book film. Not only the best X-Men movie IMO, but it really was on that highest level.
I think that is preposterous.
OK

/hefresponse

:lol

I really enjoyed that one, but I'm not hugely familiar with the other films or the comics, so I'm not as critical as others might be.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on November 30, 2014, 04:06:04 PM
It's like the comic books.  Different storylines.  We've been spoiled by Marvel and their timeline.

Wife and I are talking about new years day viewing for The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies/
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on November 30, 2014, 04:35:04 PM
I'm pumped for that one! Not sure when I'l see it yet.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 30, 2014, 08:36:29 PM
I wasn't just talking about the disconnects with the other films in the series (although those are sufficiently bad). But the story itself doesn't make sense.

Can someone tell me how Mystique's power, which is just shape shifting and not power copying, can possibly be the key to the future Sentinels copying the powers of mutants?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The King in Crimson on November 30, 2014, 08:46:46 PM
I wasn't just talking about the disconnects with the other films in the series (although those are sufficiently bad). But the story itself doesn't make sense.

Can someone tell me how Mystique's power, which is just shape shifting and not power copying, can possibly be the key to the future Sentinels copying the powers of mutants?
Science! Erm... magic!

Magic science!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dimitrius on November 30, 2014, 09:23:40 PM
And why don't they bother using Quicksilver again when he showed he's one of the most powerful mutants that has been in the films! :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Jaffa on December 01, 2014, 12:45:46 AM
Because as soon as they asked him to do something less interesting than breaking into the Pentagon, he could suddenly be on the other side of the country and there would be nothing they could do about it?   :lol  Don't get me wrong, Quicksilver was fucking badass in that movie, but I'm not sure how reliable he is. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 01, 2014, 05:06:08 AM
I saw both Hobbit movies at the cinema and have no desire to see the third one.

I just don't like the LOTR universe movies.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 01, 2014, 06:02:53 AM
And why don't they bother using Quicksilver again when he showed he's one of the most powerful mutants that has been in the films! :lol
True.  The part with him was the best of the film.

But even that was just a gimmick.  It was a scene dreamed up by Singer to get Quicksilver in the film, even though he was never really a member of the X-Men.

How did Wolverine have metal claws in the future at the beginning of the film?

How was Professor X even alive in the future at the beginning of the film?

How did Bolivar Trask transform from a large black man in X-Men: The Last Stand to a dwarf white guy in DOFP?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on December 01, 2014, 07:04:34 AM
Okay. This is very hard for me to say publicly...


I watched Fern Gully for the first time over the weekend. I'm pretty sure I could take every visual in that entire movie and find the Avatar counter part.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 01, 2014, 07:11:42 AM
LOL
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on December 01, 2014, 07:33:22 AM
And why don't they bother using Quicksilver again when he showed he's one of the most powerful mutants that has been in the films! :lol
True.  The part with him was the best of the film.

But even that was just a gimmick.  It was a scene dreamed up by Singer to get Quicksilver in the film, even though he was never really a member of the X-Men.

How did Wolverine have metal claws in the future at the beginning of the film?

How was Professor X even alive in the future at the beginning of the film?

How did Bolivar Trask transform from a large black man in X-Men: The Last Stand to a dwarf white guy in DOFP?

Hef, did you read the X-men comics as a kid? 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 01, 2014, 08:26:53 AM
Yes, of course I did, from the late 70s to the mid 90s.  But I'm not sure what that has to do with the objections I raised.  My issues about the adaptation from the comics to the movies are a whole other discussion.  I'm only talking about the films.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on December 01, 2014, 08:42:32 AM
Well unlike Marvel where they tie up the story, Fox seems to keep the storylines separate and for let's say Wolverine's movies, they use a storyline form a different era.  Fox is allowing different stories from different era's and that has no continuity for these movies.

But I know you know that, let's just blame FOX.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jingle.boy on December 01, 2014, 08:56:13 AM
And why don't they bother using Quicksilver again when he showed he's one of the most powerful mutants that has been in the films! :lol
True.  The part with him was the best of the film.

But even that was just a gimmick.  It was a scene dreamed up by Singer to get Quicksilver in the film, even though he was never really a member of the X-Men.

How did Wolverine have metal claws in the future at the beginning of the film?

How was Professor X even alive in the future at the beginning of the film?

How did Bolivar Trask transform from a large black man in X-Men: The Last Stand to a dwarf white guy in DOFP?

According to xmenwiki... "In X-Men: The Last Stand, there is a character named Trask who is loosely based on Bolivar Trask"

But your first two questions are the most glaring (and bothersome) pieces of discontinuity.  And I can see how the story line STRETCHES Mystique's "adaptability" to make that the key to the Sentinel's adaptability.  But it was really Rogue's powers.  I guess Singer couldn't come up with a storyline for Rogue in that regard.  Plus, Jennifer Lawrence is a bigger name than Anna Paquin.

Don't make me start to hate this film Hef!!!!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 01, 2014, 09:01:32 AM
I was just getting started.

If Quicksilver was fast enough to break out Magneto and stop all of those bullets, why in the blue fuck didn't they take him with them to Paris to stop Mystique from killing Trask?

Not to mention all of the other glaring continuity errors throughout the series as a whole.  They made shit up as they went along without any regard for connections or continuity.

Any comparisons between the X-Men films and the Marvel films or the Nolan Batman films is folly.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Jaffa on December 01, 2014, 11:20:48 AM
I still say it makes sense that they wouldn't want to trust Quicksilver any more than they had to.  Hell, if anything, I thought it was extremely odd that the Professor trusted him with his car.   :lol  Quicksilver is a wild card.  Completely unpredictable.  I mean, how did he demonstrate his power to them in the first place?  By picking their pockets.  Not exactly the foundation of a long and trusting partnership.  They were able to get his help on the Pentagon mission because it was an interesting challenge for him and because it was extremely illegal.  Beyond that, I don't think it would be intelligent, or even safe, for them to rely on him.  Besides, plugging him into the Trask assassination situation could have just as easily made things much worse.  Imagine if Trask had gotten his hands on Quicksilver and used his DNA to make his Sentinels...


Now, that being said, I'll be the first to admit that the continuity of the X-Men movies is pretty screwed up, it just doesn't particularly bother me.  The thing is, there's a ton of source material to draw from when it comes to the X-Men, and because of the nature of comic books, a lot of that source material ends up feeling contradictory.  Now granted, they could have done a much better job selecting and refining their source material to make it all fit together as one cohesive package in these movies (as hef said, Nolan accomplished that very well with his Batman trilogy, and Marvel has done a great job with the Avengers series so far), but as far as I'm concerned, that just isn't a necessary ingredient for superhero movies.

Take the example of Wolverine having metal claws in DOFP after losing them in The Wolverine.  I'm happy to accept that it's because DOFP isn't necessarily set in the same timeline or the same universe as The Wolverine.  That's a very comment element in comic books, so I don't see why it couldn't be an element in movies based on comic books.  After all, the movies have different writers and directors.

Now, admittedly, Professor X being alive is a pretty glaring plot hole.  That isn't really a continuity issue (we saw that he was alive as early as the post credits scene of Last Stand itself), but it is something the movies have never adequately explained. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: countoftuscany42 on December 01, 2014, 11:36:30 AM
Take the example of Wolverine having metal claws in DOFP after losing them in The Wolverine.  I'm happy to accept that it's because DOFP isn't necessarily set in the same timeline or the same universe as The Wolverine.  That's a very comment element in comic books, so I don't see why it couldn't be an element in movies based on comic books.  After all, the movies have different writers and directors.

but the post credits scene at the end of The Wolverine shows Magneto and Professor X meeting Wolverine and convincing him to come help them with the Sentinel issue, which is implied by the Trask advertisements in the background.  and in this scene he still has his bone claws.  there are plenty of explanations as to how he got his metal claws back by the beginning of DOFP, its the fact that they don't bother to explain it that irks me. 
I went into DOFP hoping to get answers to questions like that and why Professor X is alive which could have been answered very quickly, but they were completely ignored.  I only started watching the movies this past year, and I think I like First Class more than DOFP or any of the others because it relies the least on the faults of its predecessors, it just does its own thing and does it well.  DOFP tried to follow that formula to some degree, but by having the different timelines that are somewhat in line with the older films, it didn't work the same way.  I still love them all, i just can't put DOFP on the same pedestal as the Dark Knight or Avengers, even if it is deserving in some ways
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on December 01, 2014, 11:39:00 AM
Quicksilver was an immature teenager only really caring about himself. This was possibly the first time he was approached by mutants and they told him about a mission involving breaking into Pentagon. That's basically the only reason he went with them, the appeal of breaking into the most secure place on earth, and considering he had gotten a bit bored with how easy he could do anything he wanted, the challenge was appealing to him. Why would he care about going to Paris and look for Mystique? He's an immature teenager, he doesn't care.

As for problems with continuity, that shit exists in all long cinematic universes. Marvel ain't perfect, and complaining they had a different Trask is IMO not worse than Marvel having Ruffalo as The Hulk instead of Norton, or having two different Rhodey's in Iron Man. With Fox, the reason they have these problems is the fact that they've had several directors on several movies and they haven't had that mapped out plan Marvel has had. Still, it's a movie about time travel, arguing logics seems a bit redundant. With Wolverine's claws, there are different theories. While he ended his most recent standalone movie with bone claws, that wouldn't exactly prevent him to get the adamantium claws back. They are working with Magneto in the future, and considering he can do whatever he wants with metal, it's not that far fetched to think he might have helped Wolverine get the adamantium back for his skeleton. An adamantium Wolverine is a stronger Wolverine, and that would benefit Magneto in a future where all mutants have to fight together.

Professor Xavier being alive isn't really inconsistent. In the same movie he bites the dust (Last Stand), you also have a post-credits scene revealing he didn't DIE. How he got his physical body back is another question, but hardly a plothole if they brought it up in the same movie where he died in the first place. The only complaint I can agree with is Mystique. If anything the character they should have gone after should have been Rogue. But, we also don't know the physics behind it. Maybe they tampered with Mystique's powers and that's what gave them the possibility to add the element of adjusting to other powers. I think we can agree that if Mystique wasn't played by Jennifer Lawrence, her role would not have been this central in this movie.

In the end it is a movie involving time travel, so of course there's going to be inconsistencies and errors. I don't mind them ignoring some of the events of movies like Last Stand or Wolverine: Origins, because I just want to forget those movies ever existed, and it's not like any changes were for the worse. I try to look at Days of Future Past as a stand-alone movie, and as a stand-alone movie I would probably even rank it over Avengers, which despite some great banter, great heroes and interesting setup has a really lackluster finale fighting against an army of useless aliens. I thought Days of Future Past was the essential X-Men movie, bringing up all the themes of the franchise, in the most popular comic book story, with a really satisfying finale. I know some people have X2 as their favorite, but I think DFOP was at least two steps above that.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 01, 2014, 01:03:21 PM
There are plenty of theories but no explanations for any of that stuff. It is piss poor story telling.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on December 01, 2014, 01:40:46 PM
There are plenty of theories but no explanations for any of that stuff. It is piss poor story telling.

DoFP had it's issues, but saying that it was 'piss poor story telling' is a statement I fully disagree with.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Jaffa on December 01, 2014, 01:51:03 PM
I think it all comes down to what you actually expect from superhero movies.  I don't expect them to have airtight logic or perfect continuity, so it really doesn't bother me when they don't have those things.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on December 01, 2014, 01:59:09 PM
I think this all stems back to that time in elementary school when Hef was picked on by a sprinter.

That's gotta be it.

But really, I have the same reservations, but am not as sour over it. I myself go with the idea that others have said in that he is immature, selfish, and on the other end of the spectrum, I don't think he's nearly as mature in the ways of war and killing. I've said all this before in the Marvel thread but I'll restate a bit... I think he's the purest of heart in terms of his humanity. In the grand scheme of things, a kid of his powers using to steal petty items is absolutely the purest of the bunch when considering what he could do to the world over. If he had murdered all those men in the room while breaking the gang out, they more than likely would have said "Hey, come help us fuck some shit up, bro". But with X prohibiting killing, and the way that he acts, I don't think he would have even if X had said "Do what you need to do, we need to get out fast".

Again, like you said, it really just boils down to their cinematic universe being very shoddy and poorly constructed; there's really no reason for it, just excuses to come up with. Granted, like Jaffa, I honestly couldn't give a shit less about it unless it's truly glaring and harming to the story, and while this is kind of a moment where I question why they didn't explain not using him, it hardly harms the overarching story and in reality, arguably helps it considering that the movie would be ten minutes long if they'd used him to his full potential.  :lol Still my favorite part of the movie by far and at the end of the day I agree. I just don't care nearly as much. All this said, I hold Marvel to a higher standard and REALLY hope that they don't fuck their Quicksilver version up.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on December 01, 2014, 02:09:59 PM
What I love the most about X-Men is that they have managed to build really good conflicts without having big enemies. You could argue that Magneto is a bad guy, and technically he is, but he isn't as simple as "I want world domination". You get both sides of the conflict and you can fully empathize with Magneto just as much as Xavier, and even if Magneto does bad things, the movies (at least not since the first one) aren't as simple as "X-Men has to fight the bad guy Magneto". Take X2 for example, that movie doesn't really have an antagonist. It has a plot, it has two opposing sides and it is all kinds of awesome. I feel like X-Men is the only franchise that can pull this off. The main problem for me with Avengers is the lack of a good villain, and that makes the final end battle feel a bit dull. The Dark Knight has a villain, and what a villain he is. But you can take different approaches to it, and I love it how X-Men has done it so far.

DFOP doesn't really have a main villain either. You have a lot of parties with different stances and ideas, but none of them are as simple as being just the bad guy. Peter Dinklage starts this whole thing, but you can totally relate to him. You understand his motivations, and his actions are very logical. In a world of mutants, it would make a lot of sense trying to protect yourself, and he just does what he thinks is right.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on December 01, 2014, 02:16:08 PM
I definitely agree with that wholeheartedly. If they could just fuse that continuity and cohesion of the Marvel movies with their own storytelling and great characters, it'd be a true sight to behold.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on December 01, 2014, 02:19:45 PM
Also to add what I was saying, that makes X-Men Apocalypse even more interesting. This is really the first time the X-Men (and I'm assuming Magneto will join forces) will team up against ONE big enemy. I think it will be a joy. Cyclops, Jean Grey and Storm rumored to be added, Quicksilver confirmed to return, and Gambit heavily rumored (now that Channing Tatum is cast) to appear as well.

As much as I loved DFOP (and hold it as one of the best super hero movies), I'm so excited for Apocalypse. 2016 can't come soon enough.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 01, 2014, 02:20:31 PM
Okay. This is very hard for me to say publicly...


I watched Fern Gully for the first time over the weekend. I'm pretty sure I could take every visual in that entire movie and find the Avatar counter part.

yes but how many chick flicks / westerns / Underdog movies all have the exact same premise and structure ?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on December 01, 2014, 05:06:28 PM
I saw A Million Ways To Die In The West and it wasn't a bad as everybody said.  It wasn't great but it was good to chuckle with my dad.  He loves fart jokes.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dimitrius on December 01, 2014, 08:28:19 PM
Anyone seen The Babadook? What a fantastic horror movie!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on December 01, 2014, 11:06:57 PM
No but I've heard great things! I think it's coming here soon...


Okay. This is very hard for me to say publicly...


I watched Fern Gully for the first time over the weekend. I'm pretty sure I could take every visual in that entire movie and find the Avatar counter part.

I just want to quote this.  That's all.

I just rented Grave of the Fireflies because I heard it was horribly heartbreaking :caffeine:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dimitrius on December 01, 2014, 11:07:42 PM
No but I've hard great things! I think it's coming here soon...
Watch it!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on December 02, 2014, 12:14:54 AM
I thought it was pretty good. That says a whole lot considering I think almost every horror movie that comes out these days is utter trite, boring, predictable bullshit. It was still predictable bullshit, but the ride was fun. The first half I was about to turn it off with how annoying it was, and the latter half was great, then the last fifteen or so minutes dragged like hell and it ended the way I knew it would. Cool for a boring night when I'm collecting legendaries in Pokemon. Other than that... Horror movies are so not my fucking thing anymore.  :lol

The best 'horror' film I've seen that really captivated me, made me think, and simultaneously really creeped me out is Coherence, which I've talked about before; and it's not a horror per se. Which is a good thing, to me. Anything with fucking ghosts, scary-faced, clawed men who make weird sounds, creatures, etc. x howeverlongHollywoodexists (oh, that reminds me, they TOTALLY used the old-school Godzilla roar about three times as one of the noises for the bookiedookie) is just going to either elicit no reaction from me or annoy me. I'm not saying this to beat my chest or say I'm not scared of anything, but god damn, I'm a man whose perspective is heavily based in reality and science and for as much as I suspend my belief with many movies, with horror, it's a different ballgame. It's like the movie has to MAKE you suspend that belief and that's one aspect that is an impossibility for me. Something much scarier to me would be something dealing with humans, or something that is at least based around something not so paranormal. Which this movie touched upon, but was still so heavily based around some dumbfuck 'monster' that it lost steam with me pretty early on.

I digress. It was a fun flick for temporary pleasure that I'll never once have any desire to watch again.  :P
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 02, 2014, 04:55:35 AM
I think it all comes down to what you actually expect from superhero movies.  I don't expect them to have airtight logic or perfect continuity, so it really doesn't bother me when they don't have those things.
Why don't you expect those things from superhero movies?  Marvel, Nolan, and even Raimi have shown that there is no reason that superhero movies can't be made with the same standards of quality that other movies are.  Why in the world would you expect less, or accept less?

And the X-Men films are definitely less.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on December 02, 2014, 06:22:23 AM
Okay. This is very hard for me to say publicly...


I watched Fern Gully for the first time over the weekend. I'm pretty sure I could take every visual in that entire movie and find the Avatar counter part.

yes but how many chick flicks / westerns / Underdog movies all have the exact same premise and structure ?

I'm not referring to the story at all. I'm talking about what's on the screen. Every scene, including camera angle, has an Avatar equivalent. I know this to be true because Avatar is stored in my memory (in scary detail) from beginning to end. It's almost scary at times how similar some of the shots are. I'm really tempted to make a side by side of the entire Fern Gully movie with the Avatar equivalent scene beside it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 02, 2014, 06:42:09 AM
I should probably watch it :p
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on December 02, 2014, 07:11:43 AM
Is it like the 'Lost Not Forgotten' to Furn Gully's 'Under a Glass Moon'?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 02, 2014, 07:20:57 AM
I watched Fern Gully for the first time over the weekend.
Why did you do this?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on December 02, 2014, 07:26:56 AM
I watched Fern Gully for the first time over the weekend.
Why did you do this?

I quote myself "I need to watch Ferngully so I have a defense against the Avatar-hating trolls"
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 02, 2014, 07:38:26 AM
Oh, OK.

How's that working out for you?

Have you watched Pocahontas yet?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on December 02, 2014, 07:42:11 AM


How's that working out for you?


Not great.



Have you watched Pocahontas yet?

No. But I have watched (love) Dances With Wolves.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on December 02, 2014, 08:09:07 AM
If a movie has a lot of strong elements, that makes some of the problems easier to overlook. Avatar being the same story as Pocahontas/Fern Gully/Dances With Wolves is a pretty common point, and even if that's the case, if you love the visuals and everything they created, that makes it more okay if the plot wasn't the best or most original. While I don't love it, or hold it that high, I would defend Prometheus to a certain extent, because while it has a lot of problems, visually I thought it was spectacular, and the pacing in the first half or so was incredible. It had its issues and fell short in some areas, but it came out strong in other areas. Avengers is another good example for me, I love the characters, the world and the banter they have, but the final battle felt like stolen right out of Transformers 3, except this time with superheroes. A bit lacking, but other parts of the movie made it up for me.

So while not comparing either Prometheus or Avengers to Avatar on a quality-level, I think many movies fall short in some area, and it depends on how much they compensate for that with blowing you away in other areas. I think what didn't work for me was mostly Sam Worthington just being so damn generic, and he's our lead. I've seen him in at least five movies, and he just feels like such a generic actor who has been typecast as a new movie star. He's very average in my opinion, and as a result there was an emotional disconnect from the start. The story being overly similar to at least three other major movies was also a problem, but I would probably have overlooked that much easier if the movie had a different lead actor. But at least the movie looked good in 3D!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dimitrius on December 02, 2014, 08:17:00 AM
I'm really tempted to make a side by side of the entire Fern Gully movie with the Avatar equivalent scene beside it.
I would read this post.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on December 02, 2014, 08:27:33 AM
I'm really tempted to make a side by side of the entire Fern Gully movie with the Avatar equivalent scene beside it.
I would read this post.

Are you suggesting that I read it, or that you would read it if I posted it?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 02, 2014, 08:33:32 AM
I watched Fern Gully for the first time over the weekend.
Why did you do this?

I quote myself "I need to watch Ferngully so I have a defense against the Avatar-hating trolls"

I don't care about that anyway because it's like saying no two movies can be similar. Which is utter nonsense.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on December 02, 2014, 08:52:01 AM
Right, but there's "similar" and then there's "the same shots"... I haven't even seen Fern Gully, just saying.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on December 02, 2014, 01:32:07 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Gkd6yuz.jpg)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on December 02, 2014, 01:45:33 PM
Sweet poster. Tells us absolutely nothing.. but admitably a cool image.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on December 02, 2014, 02:24:50 PM
Yea it's a cool poster.

Speaking of Arnold, saw Expendables 3 yesterday and the plot was just beyond aweful  :lol. I really did enjoy the last movie though but this was just bad. Three things made it atleast somewhat bearable:

#1 Mel Gibson
#2 Wesley Snipes
#3 Antonio Banderas

All their respective parts and acting made the movie for me even though it still sucked.

Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: ZirconBlue on December 02, 2014, 02:33:43 PM
There are plenty of theories but no explanations for any of that stuff. It is piss poor story telling.

Considering DoFP basically erases most of the continuity of the previous films, it would seem kinda pointless to spend much movie time explaining the discontinuities. 
 
 
FWIW, There was a storyline with Rogue that ended up getting cut from the film.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: lucky7 on December 02, 2014, 02:35:28 PM
Anyone seen The Babadook? What a fantastic horror movie!

I saw it about 3 or 4 months ago at the movies (in Australia) apart from wanting to kill the kid (all his screaming) I loved it!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on December 02, 2014, 05:39:25 PM
Yea it's a cool poster.

Speaking of Arnold, saw Expendables 3 yesterday and the plot was just beyond aweful  :lol. I really did enjoy the last movie though but this was just bad. Three things made it atleast somewhat bearable:

#1 Mel Gibson
#2 Wesley Snipes
#3 Antonio Banderas

All their respective parts and acting made the movie for me even though it still sucked.
Who watches those for the plot? Loved them. My favorite was the second.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on December 02, 2014, 05:46:17 PM
80's action movies is among my favorite "style" of movies, but sadly I've been very underwhelmed by all The Expendables movies. Arnold has always been my favorite, but I also really love Rambo (and what Sylvester did there) and the Die Hard movies (and what Bruce Willis did there), but the team-up doesn't really work for me. The movies are mostly just fun banter between the group, but as movies they aren't very memorable unfortunately. The second one was probably the best, and that funny little scene with Arnold and Bruce Willis trading catch phrases was pretty hilarious, but the movies need more moments like that. For me the actual action falls kinda flat. It's not very memorable, and falls flat both compared to other new action movies, but also the old 80's action movies they are trying to emulate.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Jaffa on December 02, 2014, 06:52:27 PM
I think it all comes down to what you actually expect from superhero movies.  I don't expect them to have airtight logic or perfect continuity, so it really doesn't bother me when they don't have those things.
Why don't you expect those things from superhero movies?  Marvel, Nolan, and even Raimi have shown that there is no reason that superhero movies can't be made with the same standards of quality that other movies are.  Why in the world would you expect less, or accept less?

I don't expect less, I expect different.  There are lots of criteria by which to measure quality.  When it comes to superhero movies, continuity just isn't a criteria I spend much time focusing on. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 02, 2014, 07:07:43 PM
Sweet poster. Tells us absolutely nothing.. but admitably a cool image.

I agree. I can't wait to see the first actual trailer, because about all we've seen so far are the promo shots from some magazine that look awful. I'm also not sold on the story yet, so I'd like to see some more. I really want this to redeem the franchise at least somewhat.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on December 02, 2014, 07:21:08 PM
Speaking of Fern Gully, I used to love that movie as a kid, and even had/still have an old coloring book (that I'm really only keeping because it has some drawings on the inside cover) of it. But say 8 years ago I re-watched it, and it was one of the worst movies I've ever seen. The songs were horrible, the story was boring, and it wasn't funny in the slightest. I did have a crush on the girl so maybe that's all I ever cared about.




Don't judge me.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Accelerando on December 02, 2014, 08:58:46 PM
SUICIDE SQUAD FULL CAST!!!

Jared Leto as The Joker
Will Smith as Deadshot
Tom Hardy as Rick Flagg
Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn
Jai Courtney as Captain Boomerang
Cara Delevingne as Enchantress

This makes me happy! I love the casting choices, and I love seeing star studded power that DC is initiating moving forward with their cinematic universe. Establishing these villains now with suicide squad is perfect, and will set up the future movies, maybe even tying in with Justice League: Part 1. There are also rumors that Jesse Eisenberg will make an appearance as Lex Luthor in this flick too.

As for The Joker...first of all, excellent casting. I loved the character Leto created in Dallas Buyers Club, and i think he can create an interesting take on the character. Because The Joker is not part of the Suicide Squad, I suspect his role in this film will be minimal. However, seeing him and Ben Affleck going at it in a future Batman solo film will be great to see
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on December 02, 2014, 09:16:04 PM
Whoa! Interesting. I love my Leto, he's a complete badass, and Hardy is a great addition as well and the ONLY good part of TDKR (In my opinion that is better than your opinion opinion  :laugh: ). Everyone else... Eh. I really don't like Courtney at all. At. All. But we'll see how it turns out. If casting calls has taught us anything, it's that they mean jack shit if the rest of the movie fails. I'll be more excited once we see a trailer. Other than that...cool stuff. Not much else.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Bolsters on December 02, 2014, 09:17:14 PM
I'm really not sure about Will Smith as Deadshot, but no other complaints. Jared Leto as The Joker sounds pretty good.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on December 02, 2014, 09:22:50 PM
That's what got me as well. I'm honestly not too sure who the other two are, but I kind of like that I don't, especially for Harley. I haven't ever been huge into DC, so I've no idea who the Enchantress is, but Harley shouldn't be a big-name, I don't think (oops, if she is; still don't know her). But Smith...most of his movies have left me sour recently. I don't dislike him as an actor per se and sometimes love his work, but it's more recently that the Smith family world takeover has left me kind of not giving a shit about him. Maybe this will turn a corner.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 02, 2014, 09:27:46 PM
Hopefully the story will make sense.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Implode on December 02, 2014, 09:43:06 PM
Okay. This is very hard for me to say publicly...


I watched Fern Gully for the first time over the weekend. I'm pretty sure I could take every visual in that entire movie and find the Avatar counter part.

It's okay, Chino. I think everyone, even the haters, will agree that Avatar was a better movie than Fern Gully.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on December 02, 2014, 11:09:40 PM
So Will Smith finally dropped the ego, eh?

Or does Deadshot turn good, take out all the bad guys, and save the day?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on December 02, 2014, 11:33:26 PM
I think they just signed on his kid to be the bullets and we'll get a bunch of awesome shots of Jaden Jorden Jackson Flackson Wackson whatever the fuck his name is getting shot out of Deadshot's awesome weapons. Then when he hits then he kills them with his horrible acting.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on December 03, 2014, 12:30:48 AM
Yea it's a cool poster.

Speaking of Arnold, saw Expendables 3 yesterday and the plot was just beyond aweful  :lol. I really did enjoy the last movie though but this was just bad. Three things made it atleast somewhat bearable:

#1 Mel Gibson
#2 Wesley Snipes
#3 Antonio Banderas

All their respective parts and acting made the movie for me even though it still sucked.
Who watches those for the plot? Loved them. My favorite was the second.
Well technically I didn't say I expected the plot to be good I just acknowledged the fact that it sucked.  :biggrin:

As I said those three actors made it fun to watch.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on December 03, 2014, 12:42:25 AM
I agree. I still contend that Mel Gibson is one of the best emotional actors in the business.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on December 03, 2014, 12:55:31 AM
Yea he's great and probably the greater actor of the bunch.

That scene in the heli with Mel and Sly was really great, I heard somewhere that Mel wrote his own script for that scene, can't confirm though.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on December 03, 2014, 01:43:18 AM
Jared Leto as The Joker
Will Smith as Deadshot
Tom Hardy as Rick Flagg

This is one hell of a cast to be honest. Bigger names than I expected for this movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: masterthes on December 03, 2014, 07:50:08 AM
No Amanda Waller?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: gmillerdrake on December 03, 2014, 09:22:20 AM
I agree. I still contend that Mel Gibson is one of the best emotional actors in the business.

Not only that but I've enjoyed his directorial efforts as well. The dude may have some personal issues to deal with....but when it comes to acting and making movies he gives a good product.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 03, 2014, 09:29:10 AM
Mel Gibson needs a Robert Downey Jr -like resurgence of popularity.

Although I can't imagine him and Danny Glover doing Lethal Weapon 5 :p
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: gmillerdrake on December 03, 2014, 09:43:19 AM
Mel Gibson needs a Robert Downey Jr -like resurgence of popularity.

I agree....but he managed to tick off a bunch of people.....
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on December 03, 2014, 09:46:53 AM
(https://waltsense.com/storage/mel3.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1279511934613)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on December 03, 2014, 10:38:20 AM
Mel Gibson needs a Robert Downey Jr -like resurgence of popularity.

Although I can't imagine him and Danny Glover doing Lethal Weapon 5 :p

I've got a title.  "I'm too old for this $#!=!"
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on December 03, 2014, 01:53:31 PM
Speaking of a Terminator Genisys trailer, it apparently drops tomorrow. Here's a trailer for the trailer (sigh..):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_77GeNEzFQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_77GeNEzFQ)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 03, 2014, 01:57:56 PM
No Amanda Waller?
She has yet to be cast.  She is planned for the film.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: masterthes on December 04, 2014, 07:55:44 AM
Yeah, on somebody's vlog, they were thinking maybe Oprah. I certainly hope not. I was thinking maybe Vivica A. Fox, who looks similar to the actress currently playing her on Arrow
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on December 04, 2014, 10:39:22 AM
Posted this in the funny thread...but it's relevant here as well...    :rollin :rollin :rollin

https://www.theatlantic.com/video/index/380156/boats-a-short-film-that-skewers-hollywood/
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 04, 2014, 12:43:18 PM
IT'S HERE !

IT'S MEH !!

 Terminator 5 : Judge Meh Day (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62E4FJTwSuc)



" We can stop Judgement Day from happening ! "

Why would you do that ? Stop the last two films from happening ! :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on December 04, 2014, 12:45:46 PM
I need to watch the Terminator movies one of these days.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 04, 2014, 12:46:52 PM
I need to watch the Terminator movies one of these days.
Well, you need to watch the first two for sure. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 04, 2014, 12:47:09 PM
I need to watch the Terminator movies one of these days.


:|

WUT
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 04, 2014, 12:47:40 PM
I need to watch the Terminator movies one of these days.
Well, you need to watch the first two for sure.

First Two ???

There are only two terminator films . . .
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on December 04, 2014, 12:47:45 PM
I need to watch the Terminator movies one of these days.
Well, you need to watch the first two for sure.

I want to, but only the second one is on Netflix.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on December 04, 2014, 01:08:14 PM
I'm surprised that such a big Cameron fan hasn't seen the Terminator movies. The second one is up there among my all time favorites for sure.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 04, 2014, 01:12:19 PM
I'm surprised that such a big Cameron fan hasn't seen the Terminator movies. The second one is up there among my all time favorites for sure.
They are both fantastic.  The second definitely LOOKS better, and is perhaps "deeper," but there is a real charm about the first one.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on December 04, 2014, 01:17:00 PM
I already knows the robot kills itself in one of them... which basically ruins the entire movie for me.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 04, 2014, 01:53:55 PM
That's like the final scene. You don't lose anything knowing that going in...
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on December 04, 2014, 01:55:50 PM
That's like the final scene. You don't lose anything knowing that going in...

Sure I do. I'm assuming the machine is perceived as bad and fucks a lot of shit up. The humans hate it. It learns stuff throughout the movie, and then kills itself to save the humans despite the fact that they are assholes. The humans then feel remorseful and think "wow, we were super wrong".
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 04, 2014, 01:56:57 PM
??? Thats not the plot of T2 at all....
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on December 04, 2014, 02:00:38 PM
Well, either way, now I know which film he dies in. That's even worse!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 04, 2014, 02:02:23 PM
:dunno: just watch them...
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 04, 2014, 02:07:13 PM
That's like the final scene. You don't lose anything knowing that going in...

Sure I do. I'm assuming the machine is perceived as bad and fucks a lot of shit up. The humans hate it. It learns stuff throughout the movie, and then kills itself to save the humans despite the fact that they are assholes. The humans then feel remorseful and think "wow, we were super wrong".
No, you aren't even close.  Just watch it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on December 04, 2014, 02:14:56 PM
Well, either way, now I know which film he dies in. That's even worse!

Chino, you say "he" like there's only one.  They're terminators.  They're all the same.  The one that dies at the end of one of the movies is not the same one that's even in one of the other movies, and vice versa.


Seriously, just watch them.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on December 04, 2014, 02:16:20 PM
Trailer looks insane. I don't even know what to think.

But as a person who loves the two terminator films that have been made, I'm going to remain cautiously optimistic about this 3rd addition to the franchise.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on December 04, 2014, 03:01:31 PM
That's like the final scene. You don't lose anything knowing that going in...

Sure I do. I'm assuming the machine is perceived as bad and fucks a lot of shit up. The humans hate it. It learns stuff throughout the movie, and then kills itself to save the humans despite the fact that they are assholes. The humans then feel remorseful and think "wow, we were super wrong".

Not watching a movie because of this reason is like the dumbest thing ever. It's like someone saying "I won't watch Avatar because I know the plot of Pocahontas"
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on December 04, 2014, 03:03:53 PM
That's like the final scene. You don't lose anything knowing that going in...

Sure I do. I'm assuming the machine is perceived as bad and fucks a lot of shit up. The humans hate it. It learns stuff throughout the movie, and then kills itself to save the humans despite the fact that they are assholes. The humans then feel remorseful and think "wow, we were super wrong".

Not watching a movie because of this reason is like the dumbest thing ever. It's like someone saying "I won't watch Avatar because I know the plot of Pocahontas"

WOW....NAIL....HEAD....HIT IT....
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on December 04, 2014, 03:05:23 PM
New trailer looks weird.

And the only Terminator movie I don't really like is 'Rise of the Machines', I thought 'Salvation' was pretty entertaining.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Accelerando on December 04, 2014, 03:10:21 PM
oh my holy crap

(https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/tremontidood/spectre-poster_zps82a3c172.jpg)


They can deflect the Blofeld rumors all they want, but the title and that bullet hole that resembles Spectre's logo are practically confirmations.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on December 04, 2014, 03:17:10 PM
^ Now that's something I'm excited for. Skyfall is one of my favorite movies from it's year. In fact, all three of the Craig Bond-films have been great, so I am very much looking forward to this one!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on December 04, 2014, 03:19:31 PM
Hell Yeah!!  I'm ready for Spectre's return  :metal
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 04, 2014, 03:19:46 PM
Just watched the new Terminator trailer. I really didn't want to see this movie, because a reboot just seemed like beating a dead horse, but I have to say, seeing the trailer, my inner fanboy kicked my inner jaded critic in the nuts so hard, my inner jaded critic threw up a little.

Definitely gonna check it out!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dimitrius on December 04, 2014, 03:23:43 PM
I already knows the robot kills itself in one of them... which basically ruins the entire movie for me.
The robot dies in EVERY one...


By the way, I'm all in for Genisys.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Outcrier on December 04, 2014, 03:23:59 PM
Not watching a movie because of this reason is like the dumbest thing ever. It's like someone saying "I won't watch Avatar because I know the plot of Pocahontas"

Yeah, Kurosawa "adaptations" of Shakespeare proves your point.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on December 04, 2014, 03:35:10 PM
Just watched the new Terminator trailer. I really didn't want to see this movie, because a reboot just seemed like beating a dead horse, but I have to say, seeing the trailer, my inner fanboy kicked my inner jaded critic in the nuts so hard, my inner jaded critic threw up a little.

Definitely gonna check it out!

I felt the same way. Its just quirky and weird enough to be a solid guilty pleasure, which I'm more than happy with.

I'm definitely down with Terminator: Fanservys
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on December 04, 2014, 03:51:20 PM
oh my holy crap

(https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/tremontidood/spectre-poster_zps82a3c172.jpg)


They can deflect the Blofeld rumors all they want, but the title and that bullet hole that resembles Spectre's logo are practically confirmations.

Oh please, they're hardly deflecting. At least not in comparison to JJ Abrams and the whole "John Harrison" spiel in STID. We all know Blofeld is going to be in this. The question is who. Almost definitely Waltz, but I could see it also being Scott or Bautista.

Also, there's another big element to that bullet hole and Blofeld that I really suspect will come into play: Blofeld assassinates Bond's newlywed bride at the end of OHMSS. https://nonamemovieblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/ohmss-doom.jpg Also, Lea Seydoux rather resembles the description of Tracy Bond, at least in the books.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Accelerando on December 04, 2014, 03:58:03 PM
 :omg:

If that is the route they are going with, Im more excited for Spectre than ever
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 04, 2014, 04:02:15 PM
Just watched the new Terminator trailer. I really didn't want to see this movie, because a reboot just seemed like beating a dead horse, but I have to say, seeing the trailer, my inner fanboy kicked my inner jaded critic in the nuts so hard, my inner jaded critic threw up a little.

Definitely gonna check it out!

I felt the same way. Its just quirky and weird enough to be a solid guilty pleasure, which I'm more than happy with.

I'm definitely down with Terminator: Fanservys

I'm expecting either an actually fairly decent movie like Robocop 2014 or a completely pointless mess like the Total Recall remake. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on December 04, 2014, 04:06:40 PM
I'm excited for it because of Matt Smith.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on December 04, 2014, 04:08:03 PM
:omg:

If that is the route they are going with, Im more excited for Spectre than ever

Likewise. Again, could be wrong there, but I have a feeling I'm not. For one, the role that Waltz is stated to be playing is the son of Bond's old skiing instructor and the confirmed shooting locations in Austria practically scream OHMSS. Furthermore, Lea Seydoux briefly compared her character Madeleine Swann to Bond himself, saying how they both share a certain fragileness about them. That fragile description is definitely something that played a part in Tracy's character in OHMSS.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on December 04, 2014, 04:15:51 PM
Oh, duh.

 I just put the bullet hole together. Pretty ballsy to put that on the poster, but props to them. Only hardcore JB fans will know the horrific scene to expect:

James bond in a kilt
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on December 04, 2014, 04:25:24 PM
Oh, duh.

 I just put the bullet hole together. Pretty ballsy to put that on the poster, but props to them. Only hardcore JB fans will know the horrific scene to expect:

James bond in a kilt

Yeah. Kinda surprised that I haven't seen many people talking about that detail. It was one of the first things that stood out to me when I saw it this morning.

https://images.askmen.com/fashion/galleries/-134158723422.jpg
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on December 04, 2014, 04:29:44 PM
Oh, duh.

 I just put the bullet hole together. Pretty ballsy to put that on the poster, but props to them. Only hardcore JB fans will know the horrific scene to expect:

James bond in a kilt

Yeah. Kinda surprised that I haven't seen many people talking about that detail. It was one of the first things that stood out to me when I saw it this morning.

https://images.askmen.com/fashion/galleries/-134158723422.jpg

:eyebrows:

The one piece of the puzzle the Craig series was missing
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on December 04, 2014, 04:31:53 PM
Goddamn can't wait for the new bond movie!

Here's the cast reveal:

https://youtu.be/fqn-bfUwjmo?t=4m51s
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on December 04, 2014, 04:48:07 PM
Oh, duh.

 I just put the bullet hole together. Pretty ballsy to put that on the poster, but props to them. Only hardcore JB fans will know the horrific scene to expect:

James bond in a kilt

Yeah. Kinda surprised that I haven't seen many people talking about that detail. It was one of the first things that stood out to me when I saw it this morning.

https://images.askmen.com/fashion/galleries/-134158723422.jpg

:eyebrows:

The one piece of the puzzle the Craig series was missing

:eyebrows: Indeed~ :tup

Goddamn can't wait for the new bond movie!

Here's the cast reveal:

https://youtu.be/fqn-bfUwjmo?t=4m51s

I was a little worried awhile back when I found out that Roger Deakins wasn't returning as DP, but I found out that Mendes got Hoyte van Hoytema (Let the Right One In, Her, Interstellar) to replace him. Goddamn, this movie is going to look bitchin'.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 04, 2014, 06:38:31 PM
I'm still on the fence with Terminator Genisys. The fanboy in me is super excited to see them redoing events from the first film, but I hope it's more of a launching pad and not just rehash. Also, I've never been sold on their casting decision for Kyle.
And how can anyone have not seen the first two films? Do you even movie?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 04, 2014, 06:40:58 PM
I'm still on the fence with Terminator Genisys. The fanboy in me is super excited to see them redoing events from the first film, but I hope it's more of a launching pad and not just rehash. Also, I've never been sold on their casting decision for Kyle.
And how can anyone have not seen the first two films? Do you even movie?

Really? Because Kyle of all people is the one who seemed the least jarring to me. Adult John looked pretty doofy, and Sarah... Well, I guess she was supposed to be super young in the first one anyway, but Linda Hamilton didn't really come off like someone in her late teens to me.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 04, 2014, 06:52:28 PM
I'm still on the fence with Terminator Genisys. The fanboy in me is super excited to see them redoing events from the first film, but I hope it's more of a launching pad and not just rehash. Also, I've never been sold on their casting decision for Kyle.
And how can anyone have not seen the first two films? Do you even movie?

Really? Because Kyle of all people is the one who seemed the least jarring to me. Adult John looked pretty doofy, and Sarah... Well, I guess she was supposed to be super young in the first one anyway, but Linda Hamilton didn't really come off like someone in her late teens to me.


Emilia Clarke is only about 2 years younger than Linda Hamilton was in T1, she just looks younger because she's cute as a damn button. And I think she fits the part really well.

Kyle just looks like a generic modern personality-less meataxe, whereas the original Kyle Reese was a very average looking guy (and didn't have that weird long face thing going). The new guy doesn't seem to have the acting chops to pull it off. He's just...... there.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 04, 2014, 06:59:25 PM
Emilia Clarke is only about 2 years younger than Linda Hamilton was in T1, she just looks younger because she's cute as a damn button. And I think she fits the part really well.
Damn, seriously? Too much second hand smoke back in the 80s, I swear.

Kyle just looks like a generic modern personality-less meataxe, whereas the original Kyle Reese was a very average looking guy (and didn't have that weird long face thing going). The new guy doesn't seem to have the acting chops to pull it off. He's just...... there.

Well, yeah, I wouldn't say he lives up to Michael Biehn, but I still think he looks way more interesting than Anton Yelchin. And even Johnathan Jackson (from Sarah Connor Chronicles). So looks wise, he's still the second best Kyle Reese in my book, right now.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on December 04, 2014, 07:01:36 PM
Don't mind Reese too much

Sarah, I'm starting to warm up too

Adult John took a little time to adjust to, but I'll take him any day over this:

(https://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x459/phoenix87x/ScreenShot2014-12-04at85827PM_zpsc1996bea.png) (https://s1182.photobucket.com/user/phoenix87x/media/ScreenShot2014-12-04at85827PM_zpsc1996bea.png.html)



But still, this will always be my future john

(https://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsE/5164-19125.jpg)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 04, 2014, 07:02:30 PM
Emilia Clarke is only about 2 years younger than Linda Hamilton was in T1, she just looks younger because she's cute as a damn button. And I think she fits the part really well.
Damn, seriously? Too much second hand smoke back in the 80s, I swear.

Kyle just looks like a generic modern personality-less meataxe, whereas the original Kyle Reese was a very average looking guy (and didn't have that weird long face thing going). The new guy doesn't seem to have the acting chops to pull it off. He's just...... there.

Well, yeah, I wouldn't say he lives up to Michael Biehn, but I still think he looks way more interesting than Anton Yelchin. And even Johnathan Jackson (from Sarah Connor Chronicles). So looks wise, he's still the second best Kyle Reese in my book, right now.

To say he's the second best they've had isn't much of a bar to set though. :lol Their casting shortlist definitely had far better options than this guy.

And I agree with Phoenix. T2 future John >>>>> the rest. It's a shame Edward Furlong turned out to be a deadbeat, or that could have come full circle nicely.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 04, 2014, 07:04:01 PM
Honestly, I didn't mind Nick Stahl one bit as John Connor. Not as cool as the original, but I'd take him (and the new guy for that matter) over Christian Batmanvoice any day.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 04, 2014, 07:06:09 PM
Honestly, I didn't mind Nick Stahl one bit as John Connor. Not as cool as the original, but I'd take him (and the new guy for that matter) over Christian Batmanvoice any day.

I thought he was just fine for the role of John Connor in T3, but he wouldn't make a good future leader John.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 04, 2014, 07:07:53 PM
I thought he was just fine for the role of John Connor in T3, but he wouldn't make a good future leader John.

Yeah, but in T3, it was only a short little clip. And he's already an adult, so it's not like getting a different actor to play an "older" John would've made very much sense. Maybe they should've just not tried to replicate that particular future scene from T2.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on December 04, 2014, 07:22:39 PM
I'm curious if Hunger games influenced their Sarah choice 

(https://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x459/phoenix87x/ScreenShot2014-12-04at91557PM_zps192e0161.png) (https://s1182.photobucket.com/user/phoenix87x/media/ScreenShot2014-12-04at91557PM_zps192e0161.png.html)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 04, 2014, 07:26:37 PM
I thought he was just fine for the role of John Connor in T3, but he wouldn't make a good future leader John.

Yeah, but in T3, it was only a short little clip. And he's already an adult, so it's not like getting a different actor to play an "older" John would've made very much sense. Maybe they should've just not tried to replicate that particular future scene from T2.

I wasn't suggesting they should have, and it was such a short clip I forgot he even played the future war version. I just meant that he played pipsqueak John Connor well, but he wouldn't be a good fit for badass John Connor.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 04, 2014, 07:27:54 PM
I wasn't suggesting they should have, and it was such a short clip I forgot he even played the future war version. I just meant that he played pipsqueak John Connor well, but he wouldn't be a good fit for badass John Connor.

He does (or did) have very boyish features. But still, I'd rather even take him over Batmanvoice.

I'm curious if Hunger games influenced their Sarah choice 

Hmm, maybe. Frankly, as long as she doesn't look like, and especially isn't being played by Kristen Stewart, I'm happy.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on December 04, 2014, 07:31:40 PM
Yeah, on 2nd thought, I'll definitely take Katniss conner over any twilight influence.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 04, 2014, 07:34:28 PM
I wasn't suggesting they should have, and it was such a short clip I forgot he even played the future war version. I just meant that he played pipsqueak John Connor well, but he wouldn't be a good fit for badass John Connor.

He does (or did) have very boyish features. But still, I'd rather even take him over Batmanvoice.

I wasn't big on Bale either, although I didn't hate him. But they were playing entirely different versions of the character, so it's hard to directly compare the two. I think either one of them would have done a worse job trying to play the opposite role.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 04, 2014, 07:51:16 PM
I wasn't big on Bale either, although I didn't hate him. But they were playing entirely different versions of the character, so it's hard to directly compare the two. I think either one of them would have done a worse job trying to play the opposite role.

Well, that's very interesting, because as much as I really disliked Bale's performance, he's the only one who really played future Connor the leader of the resistance. Every other portrayal was just a brief, visual cameo, even from Nick Stahl, so there wasn't much of a performance either way.
So who would you cast as your ideal portrayal of future John?
I actually have a hard time thinking of who I'd want to play him.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The King in Crimson on December 04, 2014, 07:54:58 PM
IT'S HERE !

IT'S MEH !!

 Terminator 5 : Judge Meh Day (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62E4FJTwSuc)



" We can stop Judgement Day from happening ! "

Why would you do that ? Stop the last two films from happening ! :biggrin:
This looks awful, even worse than Chino's post*. Kyle Reese looks to have the personality of week old white bread. Although, on the plus side, in a few shots Emilia Clarke really did look a lot like Linda Hamilton. She doesn't seem to have the tough as nails part down that Linda had in T2, but it's hard to tell in the trailer. As for the rest? Fuck these remakes. Seriously.

*I kid, I kid.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on December 04, 2014, 07:56:26 PM
I didn't really care for Bale that much either. For the life of me, I just couldn't stop seeing/hearing batman, but that's probably my fault for watching the shit out of the nolan films.

I really just could not get into Salvation in general. It felt so much more like Road Warrior rather than a Terminator film, which sucks because seeing that 3 minute clip of the future in T2 has me salivating for years for the prospect of a full length film taking place in the future and Salvation was no where near what I had in my imagination.

One thing I will say that is nice about T5 is seeing those phased plasma rifles again. That and the dark night time atmosphere brings me back to what I pictured.

Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 04, 2014, 08:02:55 PM
I didn't really care for Bale that much either. For the life of me, I just couldn't stop seeing/hearing batman, but that's probably my fault for watching the shit out of the nolan films.

No, trust me, I only watched Nolan's Batman movies once, I just think Bale had a really hard time dropping the Batman voice. Either that, or he thought that doofy voice was suitable for John Connor. So yeah, he really was putting on the voice. My main reason for hating that performance.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Bolsters on December 04, 2014, 08:33:42 PM
I've been waiting most of my life to see a T-1000 attempt to use part of its own body as a projectile.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: adace on December 04, 2014, 08:52:20 PM
Terminator 1 and 2 will always be my favorites in the series, but the new one looks pretty cool. I'll definitely see it in theaters.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 04, 2014, 08:54:41 PM
Terminator 1 and 2 will always be my favorites in the series, but the new one looks pretty cool. I'll definitely see it in theaters.

Well, I'd say Terminator 1 and 2 are among history's best action films. The new ones are more equivalent of casual summer action flicks, which is fine, but yeah, nothing will live up to the originals.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 04, 2014, 09:02:10 PM
Terminator 1 and 2 will always be my favorites in the series, but the new one looks pretty cool. I'll definitely see it in theaters.

Well, I'd say Terminator 1 and 2 are among history's best action films. The new ones are more equivalent of casual summer action flicks, which is fine, but yeah, nothing will live up to the originals.

That goes without saying. Among my favourite movies of all time. I don't have my hopes set too high on this, I'm just hoping for an entertaining movie here. I actually don't mind T3 either, as redundant as it was. Not great, but I didn't think it was as bad as a lot of people do.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 04, 2014, 09:11:42 PM
That goes without saying. Among my favourite movies of all time. I don't have my hopes set too high on this, I'm just hoping for an entertaining movie here. I actually don't mind T3 either, as redundant as it was. Not great, but I didn't think it was as bad as a lot of people do.

Thank you! At least somebody agrees. And I mean, for all its redundancy, it did have great special effects and some fantastic action sequences, such as the truck chase. I also think it did a pretty good job of making Terminator relevant again. I remember a couple of years before it came out, I was at school, and they were giving us a talk about "violence in the media" and crap like that, and they asked what were some violent movies, and I said Terminator, and the girl was like, "Wow, that's an old movie, but yeah, I guess it's pretty violent." And honestly, I was just... Insulted. I mean, okay, the movie was about 15 years old, but it's a timeless classic. But it was really sad that the youth of that late 90s generation were so much about what's popular NOW. I felt like Rise of the Machines really brought Terminator back into the spotlight and made the franchise relevant again. Even if people didn't like it, it still brought the franchise to their minds.
Of course, now it's so much better, now pop culture has become so nostalgia-centric, that suddenlt Ghostbusters, Gremlins, Robocop and Ninja Turtles are the popular things again. Personally, I couldn't be happier.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on December 05, 2014, 01:55:45 AM
I have pretty much zero love for the first Terminator movie. It's so dated I can't really focus on what's beneath. "But the story is a classic!" Yeah, maybe, and I respect it for the part it played in movie history, it just isn't a very good movie anymore.

T2 though is still holds up as a very good movie, best of the Terminator franshise.

I liked Bale as John Connor and I like 'Salvation', more than the first Terminator and of course more than the third one.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on December 05, 2014, 02:22:43 AM
I would rank them: T2 > T1 >>> T3 >> T4

To me, the first two are obviously the best two by far. I like the second one the most, because I have the fondest memories of it. To me, that movie is more of a spectacle than the first. The first is more low budget than the second, you can see some of the limitations, and they choose to focus on the storytelling elements (which are great) a bit more. T2 to me is better because it has more memorable set pieces (the car/motorcycle chase, breaking into the institution, showdown at cyberdyne, the steel mill etc) as well as Arnold being more of the main character, which does it for me, considering he is one of my all time favorites.

I would take T3 over Salvation almost on Arnold alone. Salvation was a pretty miserable experience, and while T3 wasn't exactly fantastic, it still had some interesting things going on, and Arnold is always Arnold. That bonus scene with Arnold dubbed by Samuel L Jackson is possibly the most cringeworthy scene ever, so I'm happy it didn't make it into the theatrical cut.  :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 05, 2014, 02:38:07 AM
I'd agree with that ranking. T1 obviously has cheap production, but it's still a great movie, and it's easy enough to see past its limitations. T2 is one of the best action films of all time, and has been one of my favourite movies for as long as I can remember, so no Terminator film will top that one for me.

I expect the new film will easily top T4, and probably be a bit better than T3, even if just for the strong nostalgia tie-ins.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on December 05, 2014, 02:51:22 AM
The things I liked the most about the trailer was that it felt like they were trying to stay more true to Terminator and T2. Like for instance John Connor being scarred in the future. I only saw Salvation once when it came out, but I don't recall Bale having any scars? Or maybe I'm just forgetting, but it feels like they tried to make Jason Clarke resemble the John Connor we get glimpses of in T2. Apart from that, I also love the Back to the Future 2 setup with revisiting some iconic scenes and events of the past, but doing something new with it. To me that's doing something creative with the time travel element, and hopefully they will do it right. Just traveling back and forth in time is very standard time travel, and so I like the BTTF2 way of doing it, by throwing something new into a time line we think we already know, but this time other events play out as well.

Am I still worried? Yeah. Despite a great cast and a good director, there are so many elements of the franchise that making a T5 is just a recipe for disaster. When you have time travel, machines fighting humans and throw a complicated plot on top of it all, it's not just smooth sailing. I would hope this plays out similar to a movie like X-Men: Days of Future Past, where T5 manages to stand on its own feet as a movie, while fixing some continuity errors and still pay homage to what came before, but while being a great movie on its own. There was very little Arnold in the trailer, and I hope that's because they're saving a lot of his good stuff for the actual movie. I hope we get a few new nice one-liners, but I'm sure many of the popular ones will be referenced.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on December 05, 2014, 03:00:09 AM
I only saw Salvation once when it came out, but I don't recall Bale having any scars?

He got the scar near the end. Which to me was a cool moment.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on December 05, 2014, 03:20:11 AM
I only saw Salvation once when it came out, but I don't recall Bale having any scars?

He got the scar near the end. Which to me was a cool moment.

Oh alright, a nice little nod I suppose.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 05, 2014, 04:53:53 AM
I'd agree with that ranking. T1 obviously has cheap production, but it's still a great movie, and it's easy enough to see past its limitations. T2 is one of the best action films of all time, and has been one of my favourite movies for as long as I can remember, so no Terminator film will top that one for me.

I expect the new film will easily top T4, and probably be a bit better than T3, even if just for the strong nostalgia tie-ins.

This kinda looks like they're going for a Star Trek (2009) & Back To The Future 2 kind of deal.

Basically the same films you know but from a different perspective or timeline so they can alter it without messing up the originals.

It  kinda of makes sense when you've got a series bogged down with too much crap over the years.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 05, 2014, 05:04:58 AM
I'd agree with that ranking. T1 obviously has cheap production, but it's still a great movie, and it's easy enough to see past its limitations. T2 is one of the best action films of all time, and has been one of my favourite movies for as long as I can remember, so no Terminator film will top that one for me.

I expect the new film will easily top T4, and probably be a bit better than T3, even if just for the strong nostalgia tie-ins.

This kinda looks like they're going for a Star Trek (2009) & Back To The Future 2 kind of deal.

Basically the same films you know but from a different perspective or timeline so they can alter it without messing up the originals.

It  kinda of makes sense when you've got a series bogged down with too much crap over the years.

Given the general feeling towards T3 and T4, it makes sense to start with a clean slate, otherwise they're stuck to being well into the future war with the machines.
I actually like this approach, if they do it right. The more I watch the trailer, the more I'm warming to it.

My one big concern is that I notice that in the bus scene, they are clearly modern cars, not 1980s cars. That makes me wonder just how much timeline messing about there may be. I don't want them pulling a Sarah Connor Chronicles on this and shoehorning it into the present day to make it easier for them. It looks like we'll have Arnie being sent back to Sarah's childhood and raising her, then in 1984 offing the original Terminator, then somehow they end up in the present day for the latter part of the movie (given that Arnie is shown in various states of ageing, I think he probably doesn't travel in time again). That has the potential to be a huge clusterfuck. It also has the potential to be really cool. I'm not sure which it will be yet.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on December 05, 2014, 05:28:30 AM
The T-1000 is also a nice nod to T2 IMO.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 05, 2014, 05:56:23 AM
The T-1000 is also a nice nod to T2 IMO.

And he nearly kinda looks a bit like 1991 Robert Patrick.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 05, 2014, 06:01:38 AM
The T-1000 is also a nice nod to T2 IMO.

And he nearly kinda looks a bit like 1991 Robert Patrick.

He's asian. :lol But he appears to capture that same presence, and even though I've never seen any of his movies, it looks like a good casting choice to me.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 05, 2014, 06:19:47 AM
Given the general feeling towards T3 and T4, it makes sense to start with a clean slate, otherwise they're stuck to being well into the future war with the machines.
I actually like this approach, if they do it right. The more I watch the trailer, the more I'm warming to it.

My one big concern is that I notice that in the bus scene, they are clearly modern cars, not 1980s cars. That makes me wonder just how much timeline messing about there may be. I don't want them pulling a Sarah Connor Chronicles on this and shoehorning it into the present day to make it easier for them. It looks like we'll have Arnie being sent back to Sarah's childhood and raising her, then in 1984 offing the original Terminator, then somehow they end up in the present day for the latter part of the movie (given that Arnie is shown in various states of ageing, I think he probably doesn't travel in time again). That has the potential to be a huge clusterfuck. It also has the potential to be really cool. I'm not sure which it will be yet.

Maybe they just weren't big car fans, I know I wouldn't notice something like that. To me aside from a few particularly unique designs ('64 Impala, stuff like that) a car is a car.

I also hope that none of the "Salvationisms" infect this movie. I mean, one of the other problems I had with it were machine designs. Robot motorcycles? That's not at all practical, and they didn't even look cool.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 05, 2014, 06:26:58 AM
Well McG directed that one and this one is directed by the guy who made Thor The Dark World ? ( Which I haven't seen ).
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 05, 2014, 06:29:41 AM
Given the general feeling towards T3 and T4, it makes sense to start with a clean slate, otherwise they're stuck to being well into the future war with the machines.
I actually like this approach, if they do it right. The more I watch the trailer, the more I'm warming to it.

My one big concern is that I notice that in the bus scene, they are clearly modern cars, not 1980s cars. That makes me wonder just how much timeline messing about there may be. I don't want them pulling a Sarah Connor Chronicles on this and shoehorning it into the present day to make it easier for them. It looks like we'll have Arnie being sent back to Sarah's childhood and raising her, then in 1984 offing the original Terminator, then somehow they end up in the present day for the latter part of the movie (given that Arnie is shown in various states of ageing, I think he probably doesn't travel in time again). That has the potential to be a huge clusterfuck. It also has the potential to be really cool. I'm not sure which it will be yet.

Maybe they just weren't big car fans, I know I wouldn't notice something like that. To me aside from a few particularly unique designs ('64 Impala, stuff like that) a car is a car.

I also hope that none of the "Salvationisms" infect this movie. I mean, one of the other problems I had with it were machine designs. Robot motorcycles? That's not at all practical, and they didn't even look cool.

That's an incredibly huge oversight for any movie, so there's no way they'd pass off such modern cars as old ones. Even the average person can tell that these cars aren't from the '80s, and ALL of them are new in that scene, not just one or two. Given the effort they've put into getting the cop cars exactly right to the original movie, there's no way the whole movie is set in 1984.
Also, there are other scenes with LCD monitors and big screens etc, that don't appear to be future war era scenes.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 05, 2014, 07:23:52 AM
That is odd. We'll see though. I mean, it's entirely possible that they just won't follow the continuity of the original at all and instead offset the entire storyline forward 30 years, like Superman Returns. We'll see I guess. All I know is that the trailer has intrigued me a lot. When I first heard of the premise of it, I was incredibly skeptical. But seeing old arnold and young arnold in one scene.... Fangasm central, you know?
Honestly, for all the complaints it got, I thought the CGI arnold was the highlight of Salvation. (not enough to be the film's Salvation, lol), but seriously, even if there's something off about it, like the CGI-ness of it makes it look even a little weird, I think they should still show it for a good amount, and not cop out by blowing off the face ten seconds in.
Although by the looks of it, the young Arnie in this movie is gonna be killed pretty quickly.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 05, 2014, 07:27:57 AM
They're definitely not offsetting the storyline, as they went out of their way to recreate the '80s cars for those scenes, and the entire setting, and trying to fit it into the continuity of the first two films rather than a full reboot.
And there are various different ages of Arnold, with him being much older looking in the later action sequences than the shot where he takes out the 1984 Terminator, so I think he's aged further there, indicating more time has passed for him.
I think they're starting in 1984 then time travelling to about the present day, where I expect any future films would pick up from.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 05, 2014, 07:45:29 AM
My expectations :

• It will either be an enjoyable and actually quite decent remake like the most recent Robocop - which really surprised me as I thought it would be awful.

or

• It will be absolute junk with almost no redeeming qualities like the Total Recall remake which was actually *worse* than i expected it to be.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 05, 2014, 07:46:49 AM
My expectations :

• It will either be an enjoyable and actually quite decent remake like the most recent Robocop - which really surprised me as I thought it would be awful.

or

• It will be absolute junk with almost no redeeming qualities like the Total Recall remake which was actually *worse* than i expected it to be.

Lol, so in other words, "It will either be good, or it will be NOT good." That about covers it?  :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 05, 2014, 07:49:41 AM
Not quite. I don't expect it to be GREAT is what i'm saying. I'm expecting it to be decent or just downright terrible.

Somewhere between a 2/10 movie and a 6/10 movie.

It will NEVER be as good as Judgement Day as remakes are never better than the original.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 05, 2014, 08:01:21 AM
Not quite. I don't expect it to be GREAT is what i'm saying. I'm expecting it to be decent or just downright terrible.

Somewhere between a 2/10 movie and a 6/10 movie.

It will NEVER be as good as Judgement Day as remakes are never better than the original.

Just like Into Darkness






*runs*
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 05, 2014, 08:10:40 AM
Not quite. I don't expect it to be GREAT is what i'm saying. I'm expecting it to be decent or just downright terrible.

Somewhere between a 2/10 movie and a 6/10 movie.

It will NEVER be as good as Judgement Day as remakes are never better than the original.

Yeah, but Judgement Day is absolutely phenomenal. It's still possible for this movie to be great, in that A-Team high octane action sort of way, without actually being better than Judgement Day.

One of the problems I have with the way people judge movies (or music, or whatever else) is that they always compare it to what they consider to be their favorite entry into the franchise. Most of those movies have achieved such level of greatness that they will never be surpassed, period.

Apart from enjoying it for all its fanservice, and of course, making parallels to the original Terminator, in terms of plot, action etc., I'm going to judge Genisys on its own merits, as a movie. And I can easily see deeming it worthy of being in my movie collection.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 05, 2014, 08:17:56 AM
Not quite. I don't expect it to be GREAT is what i'm saying. I'm expecting it to be decent or just downright terrible.

Somewhere between a 2/10 movie and a 6/10 movie.

It will NEVER be as good as Judgement Day as remakes are never better than the original.

Just like Into Darkness






*runs*

:getoffmylawn:

True but I thought ID was still great and it wasn't a re-make as such. :)

Mind you - Robocop 2014 wasn't really a remake either. It just took the most basic elements from the original and made a completely new film around it.

Kind of like what happens to Alex Murphy himself in the movie. A few essential parts remain but everything else is all shiny and new.

I actually went in expecting it to be terrible like Total Reboot - but actually enjoyed it quite a bit.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 05, 2014, 08:19:16 AM
Not quite. I don't expect it to be GREAT is what i'm saying. I'm expecting it to be decent or just downright terrible.

Somewhere between a 2/10 movie and a 6/10 movie.

It will NEVER be as good as Judgement Day as remakes are never better than the original.

Yeah, but Judgement Day is absolutely phenomenal. It's still possible for this movie to be great, in that A-Team high octane action sort of way, without actually being better than Judgement Day.

One of the problems I have with the way people judge movies (or music, or whatever else) is that they always compare it to what they consider to be their favorite entry into the franchise. Most of those movies have achieved such level of greatness that they will never be surpassed, period.

Apart from enjoying it for all its fanservice, and of course, making parallels to the original Terminator, in terms of plot, action etc., I'm going to judge Genisys on its own merits, as a movie. And I can easily see deeming it worthy of being in my movie collection.

I feel the same. If it's good in it's own right then good for them.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 05, 2014, 08:37:17 AM
Not quite. I don't expect it to be GREAT is what i'm saying. I'm expecting it to be decent or just downright terrible.

Somewhere between a 2/10 movie and a 6/10 movie.

It will NEVER be as good as Judgement Day as remakes are never better than the original.

Just like Into Darkness






*runs*

:getoffmylawn:

True but I thought ID was still great and it wasn't a re-make as such. :)

Mind you - Robocop 2014 wasn't really a remake either. It just took the most basic elements from the original and made a completely new film around it.

Kind of like what happens to Alex Murphy himself in the movie. A few essential parts remain but everything else is all shiny and new.

I haven't seen Rebootcop, but from what I've heard, the problem with it was that it eliminated one of the key factors that made the original Robocop great, and that was the fact that the whole movie had a very satirical alegory tone to it, the SUX car commercial and all that. I mean, I'm in no position to judge, and I believe you when you say that Rebootcop was a good movie on its own merits, but the reason why it didn't appeal to me is that the previews really made it look a bit generic. Honestly, if it did satirize the development of our modern society, with the cellphones and the tablets, and the way pop culture is developing, I think it could've been something more interesting and unique. But like I said I'm in no place to actually judge.

But that lack of that charm factor from the original is the problem I had with the Nightmare on Elm Street remake. Nightmare on Elm Street is one of my favorite movie franchises ever, and I hold the original in the highest of regards, and apart from the fact that they just ended up redoing so many scenes from the original, and badly, the problem I had with it was that he didnt capture Freddy's character. Oh, he did a great job of capturing the scary and creepy side of Freddy, sure, but part of what made Freddy Krueger such a great character was that he actually took pleasure and glee in torturing his victims before killing them. Even in the original which was more dark and scary than fun and comical, he always had a smile on his face when performing his kills. He took such pleasure in it. That's what made Freddy great, and that's what was missing from the remake.
Which sucks, because it had potential. The victims, all the actors performed really well. I loved the way they portrayed their characters.

Of course, the plot was the biggest missed opportunity of the whole film. They were leading you on to believe that Freddy burned for being a child molester, then they discover wait, he was wrongfully accused and he actually was innocent. That was PERFECT. It gave the movie a sense that this monster that he became, happened because an innocent man was accused, and they corrupted an innocent soul by wrongfully killing him. He was essentially a vengeful spirit. That was such a great plot device and then... Cop out, "No turns out he actually was a child molester after all."  :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 05, 2014, 09:40:29 AM
Robocop 2014 has a lot of satire but in a different way. Obviously it can't be about the 80s because it's almost 30 years later.

Also it introduces a new theme of - What if Alex woke up and discovered he was just a head and lungs being kept alive in a robotic suit ?

I like that aspect of it. It's almost the reverse arc of the original.

But yeah there is a bit of generic action about it but I still enjoyed it for what it was trying to do.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 05, 2014, 09:50:13 AM
Another missed opportunity that I think they didn't even focus enough on in the original Robocop was Alex's struggle between his automation and humanity. Like, the original Robo, when he was first built, he was completely emotionless, then he started to get flashbacks and remembering who he was.
With the new one, from what I've seen in the previews, it seemed like he kind of became self-aware right away and was struggling with being that brain in a box thing. But personally, I would've really liked to see a much longer process of him just starting out completely robotic, and then gradually rediscovering his humanity little by little, and having that inner conflict between programming and free thinking. That's something I think even the original didn't have enough of.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on December 05, 2014, 03:44:17 PM
I agree with kotow, I liked the new Robocop. It wasn't mind blowing, but it was more enjoyable than I thought it would be.

With the new one, from what I've seen in the previews, it seemed like he kind of became self-aware right away and was struggling with being that brain in a box thing. But personally, I would've really liked to see a much longer process of him just starting out completely robotic, and then gradually rediscovering his humanity little by little, and having that inner conflict between programming and free thinking. That's something I think even the original didn't have enough of.

*ROBOCOP 2014 PLOT SPOILERS - IF YOU CARE, YOU KNOW.. WHATEVER*




In the new one, they actually sort of do both of those things.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 05, 2014, 03:45:44 PM
I agree with kotow, I liked the new Robocop. It wasn't mind blowing, but it was more enjoyable than I thought it would be.

With the new one, from what I've seen in the previews, it seemed like he kind of became self-aware right away and was struggling with being that brain in a box thing. But personally, I would've really liked to see a much longer process of him just starting out completely robotic, and then gradually rediscovering his humanity little by little, and having that inner conflict between programming and free thinking. That's something I think even the original didn't have enough of.

*ROBOCOP 2014 PLOT SPOILERS - IF YOU CARE, YOU KNOW.. WHATEVER*




In the new one, they actually sort of do both of those things.

Really? Well, in that case, they did a shit job with the previews for it. Maybe I'll give it a gander.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jingle.boy on December 05, 2014, 04:28:47 PM
Robocop could have been so much better.  Way too many  ::) moments.  Oldman was the only thing that made it decent.

Total Recall reboot was much better - hell, it had Jessica Biel and Kate Beckinsale.  How can ya not love that?!?!?

This Terminator extension excites me.  I and II are essential obviously; III was fun and enjoyable; Salvation also could have been better, but was still decent.  They just took the franchise in a different direction.  Genesys has me interested.

Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on December 05, 2014, 04:32:47 PM
I didn't like the remake of Total Recall except for the eye candy that Chad pointed out.  God they are hot.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Calvin6s on December 05, 2014, 05:31:06 PM
Robocop 2014 has a lot of satire but in a different way.
I can't watch that movie and not think of the Samuel Jackson parts being a Capital One commercial.

Quote
Also it introduces a new theme of - What if Alex woke up and discovered he was just a head and lungs being kept alive in a robotic suit ?
General Grevious
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 05, 2014, 05:32:41 PM
Is he ?

Do you ever see Grevious with his robotic parts removed and have a panic attack because he sees what's left of him ?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 05, 2014, 05:35:12 PM

Really? Well, in that case, they did a shit job with the previews for it. Maybe I'll give it a gander.

Ugh the trailer for Robocop 2014 made it look like a ten-a-penny generic action pile of shit.

It's so much deeper than that. I'd give it a watch with an open mind. The only things from the original are Alex Murphy, OCP and the ED-209s.

Everything else is completely different. It's part remake / part sequel.

It doesn't do the reboot thing of taking everything you know and just changing it for the sake of it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 05, 2014, 08:18:55 PM
All right, cool. I guess I'll check it out when I'm in the mood for some modern sci-fi action.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Accelerando on December 05, 2014, 08:37:26 PM
I agree with Kotowboy. Robocop (2014) was a pleasant surprise
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on December 05, 2014, 09:15:43 PM
I watched the uncut/director's cut bluray of the original Robocop the other day. Still a great movie, but being in HD, you can unfortunately see all the short comings of the special effects. For example, when they show Robocop's tracking "GPS", it's just a blinking LED light. One thing I never noticed though was right before Murphy is shot in the head, it's a puppet.

Also, that extra second of the guy getting blown away by the ED-209 was brutal.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 05, 2014, 09:19:05 PM
Meh, after all these years, something like that wouldn't ruin the movie for me. On the contrary, it's like getting a deeper look into the craftsmanship of the film making. But I mean, I'm interested in that sort of thing, so I guess some people might be put off.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 05, 2014, 09:51:29 PM
Meh, after all these years, something like that wouldn't ruin the movie for me. On the contrary, it's like getting a deeper look into the craftsmanship of the film making. But I mean, I'm interested in that sort of thing, so I guess some people might be put off.

It depends on the person. I've always loved seeing being the curtain, and knowing how things are done. It gives me a greater appreciation for what went into it, and I get more enjoyment about spotting these things.
Some people like to keep the magic and suspend disbelief, and don't want to be distracted by that kind of thing.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 05, 2014, 10:51:21 PM
It depends on the person. I've always loved seeing being the curtain, and knowing how things are done. It gives me a greater appreciation for what went into it, and I get more enjoyment about spotting these things.
Some people like to keep the magic and suspend disbelief, and don't want to be distracted by that kind of thing.

Well, I'm all for that stuff. I love watching behind the scenes, and hearing the commentaries that talk about how everything was done, or little stories from behind the scenes.

Speaking of which, seeing that Terminator trailer put me into a Schwarzenegger type of mood, so I decided to rewatch Total Recall (the original obviously) with commentaries, and the director brought up a point of view that Ihadn't considered before, for some reason. The idea that the whole thing that happens on Mars actually IS an implanted memory that he's experiencing. And the whole thing with him going to Mars, killing all the guys, saving the planet, is all a part of that Ego Trip he took.
Kind of an interesting point of view. I don't know why I've never considered it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 06, 2014, 04:14:43 AM
I thought that was what the whole film was about !

Verhoeven has said he planned the whole film to be arguable either way.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Bolsters on December 06, 2014, 04:20:36 AM
Yeah it's pretty ambiguous, intentionally, and the possibility that none of it is real is brought up in the film at several points including the very end. Don't know how you missed that. :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jingle.boy on December 06, 2014, 07:38:56 AM
I thought that was what the whole film was about !

Verhoeven has said he planned the whole film to be arguable either way.

Yeah, I thought that was the point all along.  It's pretty obvious with Quaid/Hauser's final line "What if this is all a dream?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The King in Crimson on December 06, 2014, 09:16:01 AM
IIRC Verhoeven wanted the film to be ambiguous so that you could interpret it either way.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 06, 2014, 10:19:35 AM
Yeah it's pretty ambiguous, intentionally, and the possibility that none of it is real is brought up in the film at several points including the very end. Don't know how you missed that. :lol

Well, obviously when the guy is all like, "This is actually a dream. If you kill me though, I won't be able to guide you out of here, blah blah blah," it does kind of lead you to believe that, but as soon as he kills the guy and that whole scene ends, I just dismissed that theory and in every subsequent viewing, I never really even gave it a second thought.
And that line at the end, I just thought was kind of a cheeky little nod to the whole premise. I never considered that it may have been a dream after all.

Nor was I aware that that was Verhoeven's intention to perceive it as one or the other. I've never really watched or read any interviews with him.

Another interesting thing he mentioned in the commentary is that there was supposed to be a sequel about a bunch of mutant psychics who can predict crimes, but with time that script kept changing until it eventually evolved into what ended up being Minority Report starring Tom Cruise.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 06, 2014, 10:33:45 AM
Yeah Philip K. Dick wrote both stories.

Total Recall the book is called
"We can remember it for you wholesale"

Same author as blade runner. Which was originally titled
"Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep"
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 06, 2014, 11:15:07 AM
Yeah Philip K. Dick wrote both stories.

Total Recall the book is called
"We can remember it for you wholesale"

Same author as blade runner. Which was originally titled
"Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep"

Yeah, I know they were both written by him, but are they canonically linked?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 06, 2014, 11:32:23 AM
No.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 06, 2014, 11:37:25 AM
Right, so intending for it to be a sequel to Total Recall would be an interesting decision.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 07, 2014, 09:50:53 AM
Right, so intending for it to be a sequel to Total Recall would be an interesting decision.
That isn't what that said.  It said that what was intended to be the sequel wound up becoming Minority Report.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 07, 2014, 10:11:27 AM
Right, so intending for it to be a sequel to Total Recall would be an interesting decision.
That isn't what that said.  It said that what was intended to be the sequel wound up becoming Minority Report.

 :facepalm: Yes. That is what I'm saying. I'm saying it's interesting to imagine how it would have turned out if it did end up being a sequel to Total Recall.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 07, 2014, 11:23:30 AM
OK
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on December 07, 2014, 09:25:53 PM
Just watched Heavenly Sword on Netflix. It was meh. Not sure why I finished it. I guess a hottie skillfully killing hundreds was entertaining enough to keep me engaged.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 07, 2014, 09:33:08 PM
Just watched Heavenly Sword on Netflix. It was meh. Not sure why I finished it. I guess a hottie skillfully killing hundreds was entertaining enough to keep me engaged.

Yeah, not as good as the game's story. The changes were strange, it did nothing to make the story better, it just seemed like they made them just for the sake of being different.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on December 07, 2014, 09:33:55 PM
Sounds like you could have just watched the new Game of War ads on a loop and got the same effect.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on December 07, 2014, 10:06:53 PM
Just watched Heavenly Sword on Netflix. It was meh. Not sure why I finished it. I guess a hottie skillfully killing hundreds was entertaining enough to keep me engaged.

Yeah, not as good as the game's story. The changes were strange, it did nothing to make the story better, it just seemed like they made them just for the sake of being different.
I've never actually played the game. I played a demo once in Gamestop before it came out, and my thought was basically "Hm. God of War with a prettier protagonist."
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 07, 2014, 10:19:53 PM
I've never actually played the game. I played a demo once in Gamestop before it came out, and my thought was basically "Hm. God of War with a prettier protagonist."

Might seem that way on the surface, but honestly, I'd say it's actually deeper. Like, the combat system is more focused on parrying the enemies and turning their attacks against them, which is actually a lot of fun, and there are other minigame sections like turret sections (sort of) and things like that. But yeah, the storyline was better, and the characters were actually a lot more interesting in the game than in the movie. Especially King Bohan, he was a bit more quirky and funny at times, instead of the boring, wooden "evil king" guy like in the movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on December 07, 2014, 10:29:58 PM
I've never actually played the game. I played a demo once in Gamestop before it came out, and my thought was basically "Hm. God of War with a prettier protagonist."

Might seem that way on the surface, but honestly, I'd say it's actually deeper. Like, the combat system is more focused on parrying the enemies and turning their attacks against them, which is actually a lot of fun, and there are other minigame sections like turret sections (sort of) and things like that. But yeah, the storyline was better, and the characters were actually a lot more interesting in the game than in the movie. Especially King Bohan, he was a bit more quirky and funny at times, instead of the boring, wooden "evil king" guy like in the movie.
Not to say I didn't have fun with the demo. Just never owned a PS3. If I had, I'm sure I would've given the game a shot. As far as the movie, I got the feeling that it was probably a condensed version of a better storyline, and with much less personality. I've heard good things about the game.

Anyhoo, to continue this thread, I'm currently watching The Sorcerer's Apprentice for the first time. It's really fun. I enjoy the chemistry between Cage and Baruchel.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 07, 2014, 10:50:52 PM
As far as the movie, I got the feeling that it was probably a condensed version of a better storyline, and with much less personality. I've heard good things about the game.

You'd think so, but the movie actually changed things around quite significantly, adding a couple major characters, changing the backstory in a big way and not for the better, if you ask me. I do have to admit, it was pretty though.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on December 08, 2014, 04:44:33 AM
Man I have to see The Great Dictator. Just saw this clip of the great speech by Chaplin in the movie and was pretty moved. Reading up on the movie it was released about 1 year after the start of the 2nd world war which makes it even more powerful and the sad thing is that the speech is still relevant today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FMNFvKEy4c
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 08, 2014, 06:31:58 AM
This weekend I saw Lone Survivor.  That was pretty brutal and realistic-looking.  Not sure what kind of response it got, but I thought it was pretty good and all of the actors did great jobs.

Also saw Grudge Match.  It was weirdly entertaining.  I couldn't help but think it would have been better with actors other than Stallone and DeNiro, but at the same time it wouldn't have been made (and wouldn't have made as much sense) without them.  Nothing great, for sure, but I don't regret it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jingle.boy on December 08, 2014, 06:55:13 AM
This weekend I saw Lone Survivor.  That was pretty brutal and realistic-looking.  Not sure what kind of response it got, but I thought it was pretty good and all of the actors did great jobs.

FABULOUS movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on December 08, 2014, 07:16:35 AM
I watched the Muppet Christmas Movie for the first time over the weekend. I loved it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on December 08, 2014, 07:17:15 AM
This weekend I saw Lone Survivor.  That was pretty brutal and realistic-looking.  Not sure what kind of response it got, but I thought it was pretty good and all of the actors did great jobs.

Also saw Grudge Match.  It was weirdly entertaining.  I couldn't help but think it would have been better with actors other than Stallone and DeNiro, but at the same time it wouldn't have been made (and wouldn't have made as much sense) without them.  Nothing great, for sure, but I don't regret it.

HBO man here.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on December 08, 2014, 07:33:53 AM
This weekend I saw Lone Survivor.  That was pretty brutal and realistic-looking.  Not sure what kind of response it got, but I thought it was pretty good and all of the actors did great jobs.

FABULOUS movie.
Yea I enjoyed that movie alot. The shootout in the forest was very intense.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 08, 2014, 08:00:18 AM
Also saw Grudge Match.  It was weirdly entertaining.  I couldn't help but think it would have been better with actors other than Stallone and DeNiro, but at the same time it wouldn't have been made (and wouldn't have made as much sense) without them.  Nothing great, for sure, but I don't regret it.

I really liked Grudge Match. I mean, I'm a big Stallone fan in general, but I was actually really impressed with the chemistry between him and Basinger, and thought the acting in it was really good on all parts. I'm glad Stallone played a different kind of character from Rocky. He could've easily played the lovable Philadelphia meat head type of character that Rocky is, but he played the character with a lot more intelligence, I thought, which was a pleasant surprise.
I enjoyed it a lot more than I expected to, to be honest.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 08, 2014, 08:34:25 AM
This weekend I saw Lone Survivor.  That was pretty brutal and realistic-looking.  Not sure what kind of response it got, but I thought it was pretty good and all of the actors did great jobs.

Also saw Grudge Match.  It was weirdly entertaining.  I couldn't help but think it would have been better with actors other than Stallone and DeNiro, but at the same time it wouldn't have been made (and wouldn't have made as much sense) without them.  Nothing great, for sure, but I don't regret it.

HBO man here.
Indeed.  :tup

Also saw Grudge Match.  It was weirdly entertaining.  I couldn't help but think it would have been better with actors other than Stallone and DeNiro, but at the same time it wouldn't have been made (and wouldn't have made as much sense) without them.  Nothing great, for sure, but I don't regret it.

I really liked Grudge Match. I mean, I'm a big Stallone fan in general, but I was actually really impressed with the chemistry between him and Basinger, and thought the acting in it was really good on all parts. I'm glad Stallone played a different kind of character from Rocky. He could've easily played the lovable Philadelphia meat head type of character that Rocky is, but he played the character with a lot more intelligence, I thought, which was a pleasant surprise.
I enjoyed it a lot more than I expected to, to be honest.
Well, I liked it too.  I'm just not sure I like that I liked it.   :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Lucien on December 08, 2014, 09:39:01 AM
I watched the Muppet Christmas Movie for the first time over the weekend. I loved it.

I actually saw bits and pieces of it on television as well recently, and I agree.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dimitrius on December 08, 2014, 09:51:25 AM
Lone Survivor was really good and the way the filmed the shootout was super intense, super unnerving. I hadn't felt that way watching a movie for a long time!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on December 08, 2014, 11:19:30 AM
Finally got around to watching 28 Days Later. It was fantastic. I find a good zombie movie is hard to come by but this one is definitely the best I've seen so far.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 08, 2014, 11:28:10 AM
Finally got around to watching 28 Days Later. It was fantastic. I find a good zombie movie is hard to come by but this one is definitely the best I've seen so far.

I wouldn't say it's the best ever. My personal favorite is the 2004 Dawn of the Dead reimagining. But yeah, 28 days was pretty great, definitely up there. Which makes me wonder why I never bothered seeing 28 Weeks Later. Maybe that needs to be rectified.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on December 08, 2014, 11:38:17 AM
28 Weeks Later is not awful, but definitely not on par with the first. To me, the difference in having a director like Danny Boyle for the first one, an academy award winner, and having a pretty unknown Spanish director for the sequel, who hasn't really exploded out onto the scene yet, 10 years later. The first one is really good, the second one is good, but has a few really dumb scenes and plot points that keeps it from ever reaching the same levels. The second one had several "oh my god how are these characters so stupid?" moments, something I didn't really get from the first one. Still, a shame we never got a 28 Months Later, a movie that was planned.

I will say that despite being fairly lukewarm about the sequel, the opening sequence IMO was on par with the first movie, and you could feel the adrenaline and tension through the screen. It's just a shame that the movie (despite some great scenes like that) has some problems later on.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 08, 2014, 11:40:07 AM
Well, from what I've heard, it's actually a good sequel, which is a lot more than can be said about the vast majority of other horror movies out there, so I'm sure it's worth a watch.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on December 08, 2014, 11:41:40 AM
28 weeks later is a far cry from the original in every way imaginable. It's better than most zombie flicks, but not by much, in my eyes. 28 Days is amazing though and will always be one of my favorites, right alongside 2004 Dawn/Dead, but that one has kind of degraded a bit in time for me, while 28 Days is still one of my absolute favorites. 2004 Dawn is still leagues better than most though, and there's a SHITLOAD out there.

That said, if you're looking for something completely different and awesome, and also don't mind foreign films with subtitles, check out both Dead Snow, a Norwegian zombie/comedy flick that is both awesome in the zombie category and absolutely excels in comedy and entertainment in general. Another favorite of mine is La Horde, a French film that really captures the apocalyptic feel while staying pretty confined and 'indie' (fucking abhor that word, though it best describes this movie; it's confined to a single location while briefly showing other parts of the world and the city, but think of it like The Raid in that it's all in one big ass building filled with abominations). Great, great zombie flick that is totally deviant from the usual zombie schticks while paying tribute to the OGs.

Good stuff, both can be seen on Netflix at the time of this post.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on December 08, 2014, 11:41:48 AM
I've heard the opening scene of 28 Weeks is absolutely amazing, but the movie isn't great afterwards.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on December 08, 2014, 11:43:38 AM
I've heard the opening scene is absolutely amazing, but the movie isn't great afterwards.

Pretty much this exactly. The way it was set up, I immediately though "Holy fuck they did it" and then my zombie boner was a flaccid little noodle for the rest of the film and I felt like I was watching a shitty remake. Granted, like I said, it's still leagues better than most zombie flicks and is still a decent movie, but if you're thinking of the original the entire time and making comparisons like I was, you'll more than likely come out disappointed.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on December 08, 2014, 12:14:16 PM
I've heard the opening scene is absolutely amazing, but the movie isn't great afterwards.

Pretty much this exactly. The way it was set up, I immediately though "Holy fuck they did it" and then my zombie boner was a flaccid little noodle for the rest of the film and I felt like I was watching a shitty remake. Granted, like I said, it's still leagues better than most zombie flicks and is still a decent movie, but if you're thinking of the original the entire time and making comparisons like I was, you'll more than likely come out disappointed.

I still think the virus getting out in the quarantine base is one of the craziest scenes in any movie ever. Great music during that scene too.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on December 08, 2014, 12:44:26 PM
I've heard the opening scene is absolutely amazing, but the movie isn't great afterwards.

Pretty much this exactly. The way it was set up, I immediately though "Holy fuck they did it" and then my zombie boner was a flaccid little noodle for the rest of the film and I felt like I was watching a shitty remake. Granted, like I said, it's still leagues better than most zombie flicks and is still a decent movie, but if you're thinking of the original the entire time and making comparisons like I was, you'll more than likely come out disappointed.

I still think the virus getting out in the quarantine base is one of the craziest scenes in any movie ever. Great music during that scene too.

There is some great scenes involved during that part, and I agree with you, and behind the opening, it is one of the better parts of the movie. It's just a shame that basically everything that leads up to it, and makes it happen is a chain of dumb actions where characters manage to top each other in making the dumbest decisions in an apocalypse ever.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: gmillerdrake on December 08, 2014, 02:06:39 PM
I've heard the opening scene is absolutely amazing, but the movie isn't great afterwards.

Pretty much this exactly. The way it was set up, I immediately though "Holy fuck they did it" and then my zombie boner was a flaccid little noodle for the rest of the film and I felt like I was watching a shitty remake. Granted, like I said, it's still leagues better than most zombie flicks and is still a decent movie, but if you're thinking of the original the entire time and making comparisons like I was, you'll more than likely come out disappointed.

I still think the virus getting out in the quarantine base is one of the craziest scenes in any movie ever. Great music during that scene too.

There is some great scenes involved during that part, and I agree with you, and behind the opening, it is one of the better parts of the movie. It's just a shame that basically everything that leads up to it, and makes it happen is a chain of dumb actions where characters manage to top each other in making the dumbest decisions in an apocalypse ever.


I've been awaiting the obligatory third movie "28 Months Later".......based on what would've happened to Europe after that chopper crash landed with the infected boy. I had it worked out in my head that the virus would have reached the Soviet border where a massive 'line in the sand' would've been drawn and all the world powers would've been awaiting this massive 'zombie' hoard charging the front line.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on December 08, 2014, 02:26:34 PM
I've heard the opening scene is absolutely amazing, but the movie isn't great afterwards.

Pretty much this exactly. The way it was set up, I immediately though "Holy fuck they did it" and then my zombie boner was a flaccid little noodle for the rest of the film and I felt like I was watching a shitty remake. Granted, like I said, it's still leagues better than most zombie flicks and is still a decent movie, but if you're thinking of the original the entire time and making comparisons like I was, you'll more than likely come out disappointed.

I still think the virus getting out in the quarantine base is one of the craziest scenes in any movie ever. Great music during that scene too.

There is some great scenes involved during that part, and I agree with you, and behind the opening, it is one of the better parts of the movie. It's just a shame that basically everything that leads up to it, and makes it happen is a chain of dumb actions where characters manage to top each other in making the dumbest decisions in an apocalypse ever.


I've been awaiting the obligatory third movie "28 Months Later".......based on what would've happened to Europe after that chopper crash landed with the infected boy. I had it worked out in my head that the virus would have reached the Soviet border where a massive 'line in the sand' would've been drawn and all the world powers would've been awaiting this massive 'zombie' hoard charging the front line.

That'd be freaking nuts.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 08, 2014, 02:44:02 PM
28 sequels later.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on December 08, 2014, 03:27:56 PM
I started watching Perks of Being a Wallflower, but I just had to stop about 40 minutes in.. It wasn't bad or anything, it was really good. There was just something about it that made me feel like I wouldn't be able to sit through the whole thing. So I don't know..
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 08, 2014, 03:36:36 PM
Everything after The Black Hole in "Interstellar" does that to me. I can't put my finger on it but I get really bad anxiety and depression and I don't even know why :(

It happened at the same point in the film both times I saw it and took a few days to go away :(

Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Fiery Winds on December 10, 2014, 01:29:15 PM
New Pixar trailer for Inside Out (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MC3XuMvsDI) looks pretty good!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: cramx3 on December 10, 2014, 02:05:28 PM
All this Sony being hacked and threatened if they release The Interview is really making me want to see it even more.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on December 10, 2014, 02:31:59 PM
I've heard the opening scene is absolutely amazing, but the movie isn't great afterwards.

Pretty much this exactly. The way it was set up, I immediately though "Holy fuck they did it" and then my zombie boner was a flaccid little noodle for the rest of the film and I felt like I was watching a shitty remake. Granted, like I said, it's still leagues better than most zombie flicks and is still a decent movie, but if you're thinking of the original the entire time and making comparisons like I was, you'll more than likely come out disappointed.

I still think the virus getting out in the quarantine base is one of the craziest scenes in any movie ever. Great music during that scene too.

There is some great scenes involved during that part, and I agree with you, and behind the opening, it is one of the better parts of the movie. It's just a shame that basically everything that leads up to it, and makes it happen is a chain of dumb actions where characters manage to top each other in making the dumbest decisions in an apocalypse ever.
I started watching the movie once, and this is why I didn't finish. I don't remember the details of the movie, but I remember getting so frustrated by people doing the dumbest possible thing that I couldn't finish.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on December 10, 2014, 02:48:31 PM
Yeah totally. I know that's pretty normal in many horror movies, because if people always acted sane and made logical decisions, few scary things would happen. But 28 Weeks Later took that concept to new highs.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on December 10, 2014, 02:52:48 PM
Don't get me wrong, I almost always overlook dumbfucks in horror movies. That's almost a requirement of watching a horror movie lest you go on a murder spree out of sheer frustration; it was the fact that I held this movie to a higher standard because of the first movie. It goes along the lines of expecting something from a series due to the previous entries' standards of awesomeness and that's what got me for this movie. Among the horror genre, it's still a pretty good movie in my opinion given that the genre is saturated with such utter fucking cuntery (TM); but the fact that the first movie is basically now a cult hit and a classic film of how to do horror right (especially among the zombie sub-genre...that's now basically an entire genre unto itself) is what made me so disappointed.

It is what it is though. I really liked the lead for the first thirty minutes, and the breakout scene you guys were talking about was also a shining point, but it was so covered in stale, steamy shit that it's tough to look past.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on December 10, 2014, 03:03:51 PM
New Pixar trailer for Inside Out (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MC3XuMvsDI) looks pretty good!

Oh man, that was really enjoyable! I was on the fence about this at first, but I think now I'm sold.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: lucky7 on December 10, 2014, 03:08:13 PM
Saw Horrible Bosses 2 last weekend...it was pretty good....if you are a fan of the first one you will enjoy it...
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 10, 2014, 04:24:19 PM
Saw Horrible Bosses 2 last weekend...it was pretty good....if you are a fan of the first one you will enjoy it...

Good to know! How big is Kevin Spacey's part in this one? He's in it, right?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 10, 2014, 04:25:58 PM
Saw Horrible Bosses 2 last weekend...it was pretty good....if you are a fan of the first one you will enjoy it...

Good to know! How big is Kevin Spacey's part in this one? He's in it, right?

He's not in it. It's Chris Pine.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: lucky7 on December 10, 2014, 04:27:20 PM
^^^Very small unfortunately ....my fave actor and on screen for less than five minutes total...but when he is on screen he is gold!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: lucky7 on December 10, 2014, 04:28:25 PM
Saw Horrible Bosses 2 last weekend...it was pretty good....if you are a fan of the first one you will enjoy it...

Good to know! How big is Kevin Spacey's part in this one? He's in it, right?

He's not in it. It's Chris Pine.

Kevin Spacey is the guy in prison!  :smiley:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 10, 2014, 04:29:41 PM
Saw Horrible Bosses 2 last weekend...it was pretty good....if you are a fan of the first one you will enjoy it...

Good to know! How big is Kevin Spacey's part in this one? He's in it, right?

He's not in it. It's Chris Pine.

Kevin Spacey is the guy in prison!  :smiley:

Oh Ok i've not seen either of them actually. Not my cup of tea.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 10, 2014, 04:36:39 PM
^^^Very small unfortunately ....my fave actor and on screen for less than five minutes total...but when he is on screen he is gold!

Ah, that sucks, but about what I was expecting. Like Rob Riggle in 22 Jump Street, huh?

Well, as long as it's still good on its own merits, might be worth a gander, I reckon.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on December 11, 2014, 12:40:57 AM
Dear Zachary...

Shieeeet...
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on December 11, 2014, 08:49:09 AM
We saw Rare Exports last night, about a Finnish mountain kid who discovers that the REAL Santa (a goat-thing that eats kids) has been excavated from an icy grave and shit's about to go down. Ridiculous and awesome!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on December 11, 2014, 10:46:48 AM
That does sound ridiculous and awesome.



So here's something I saw and I couldn't figure out where to put it.  It's not worth its own thread, it's not "funny" so it couldn't go in the funny stuff thread, then I realized that it's movie-related, so here it is.

(https://i.imgur.com/hV2Snnc.jpg)

The scene in the movie is brief and played for laughs, but I always imagined the backstory as being something like this.  Also, when my kids were first introduced to Star Wars and that scene came up (second panel from the end, duh) both of my kids got really sad, so I knew that they too had imagined a similar backstory to the rancor.  This way, we get a happier ending for him.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on December 11, 2014, 10:53:05 AM
 :'( :laugh:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dark Castle on December 11, 2014, 08:58:45 PM
We saw Rare Exports last night, about a Finnish mountain kid who discovers that the REAL Santa (a goat-thing that eats kids) has been excavated from an icy grave and shit's about to go down. Ridiculous and awesome!
Must.Watch.This.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on December 11, 2014, 10:37:57 PM
Yeah, it's probably not quite what you think (definitely wasn't what we expected based on the description) but still awesome!

Just watched Grave of the Fireflies. Not quite as soul-crushing as I was expecting based on a friend's report, but damn.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on December 11, 2014, 11:29:46 PM
I still have to watch that one. I plan on going on a depressing movie streak since I just watched Dear Zachary (which was more maddening than saddening but still).
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on December 13, 2014, 04:40:32 PM
I saw Predestination today... What. The. Fuck.

I finished it maybe 20 minutes ago and I'm still laughing occationally. I actually thought it was really awesome. If you don't know anything about this movie I recommend not reading anything about it, but definetely check it out.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: lucky7 on December 13, 2014, 09:46:00 PM
^^I wanted to see that one, it was a very limited release at the movies....glad to hear it was a good movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on December 14, 2014, 01:43:02 PM
I also saw Nightcrawler today after hearing much praise about it. Which I really think it deserves. Really intense and interesting movie, with a really great and creepy performance by Jake Gyllenhaal.

Also, twice since I saw the first 40 mins of Perks of Being a Wallflower, I have dreamt about being friends with Patrick. I don't know why really, must be because I really found him to be a genuinly likable guy. He was my favorite character while watching the movie too, since he just felt so believable as a person.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Scorpion on December 14, 2014, 02:23:17 PM
I still have to watch that one. I plan on going on a depressing movie streak since I just watched Dear Zachary (which was more maddening than saddening but still).

Dancer in the Dark. There, done. You won't be feeling like smiling for a week.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on December 14, 2014, 02:26:57 PM
I finally checked out Walk the Line.  I've been a Johnny Cash fan as long as I can remember (literally, I remember listening to my parents old vinyl in the old house when I was five), and thus was both wanted to see this movie, and didn't want to see it because a) everybody does their own singing, including Joaquin Phoenix (Johnny Cash) and Reese Witherspoon (June Carter), and b) it's "based on" actual facts, but as with all Hollywood biopics, takes certain liberties.  But I've seen a couple of decent documentaries lately about Johnny and June, and feel secure enough in the real story that I can watch a biopic and be entertained, and not worry too much about the embellishments.

It was actually pretty good.  Phoenix sings pretty well and is a good actor, and Reese is just so doggone cute that it was hard to take my eyes off the screen every time she was in a scene.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on December 14, 2014, 02:32:19 PM
I still have to watch that one. I plan on going on a depressing movie streak since I just watched Dear Zachary (which was more maddening than saddening but still).

Dancer in the Dark. There, done. You won't be feeling like smiling for a week.
I've seen that one, and agreed. That movie destroyed me when I first watched it, haha. As soon as (spoilers)the scene where Bill is watching for where she places her money happens, that was it. I was feeling pretty emotional the rest of the movie. :lol Probably a top 5 favourite of mine.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on December 14, 2014, 02:33:01 PM
ignore this, double post
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on December 14, 2014, 04:56:53 PM
Just watched Sin City 2 and while I loved the first one, part 2 was just so-so.

Something about it just didn't have the flair and gravitas of the first one.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 14, 2014, 05:53:46 PM
Guys, guys, guys.  Last night, nothing was on, so my daughter wanted to watch 47 Ronin, and against my better judgement, I watched it with her.

The most incredible thing happened.  It didn't suck.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dark Castle on December 14, 2014, 10:12:49 PM
Nightcrawler is pretty good, but god damn it's one of the most uncomfortable movies I've watched in quite some time.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on December 14, 2014, 11:10:10 PM
Just had a Nicolas Cage marathon. Only had time for four movies so we started with Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans ( :metal), then watched The Wicker Man (:mehlin), The Frozen Ground (not as bad as I expected), and Deadfall- wow. Just wow. I had been wanting to see that one for a while because it's featured so well in the "Nicolas Cage losing his shit" video and it did not disappoint, though I thought he would have a slightly bigger role than he did.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 14, 2014, 11:13:23 PM
Just had a Nicolas Cage marathon. Only had time for four movies so we started with Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans ( :metal), then watched The Wicker Man (:mehlin), The Frozen Ground (not as bad as I expected), and Deadfall- wow. Just wow. I had been wanting to see that one for a while because it's featured so well in the "Nicolas Cage losing his shit" video and it did not disappoint, though I thought he would have a slightly bigger role than he did.

The first one I found a little too long and not that interesting, but Cage's acting in it was top notch.
The second one is worth watching just to see him punch a chick out while wearing a bear suit.
The latter two I did not see, but it's a shame that you had a Nicolas Cage marathon and didn't include The Rock.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on December 14, 2014, 11:23:14 PM
So Jake Gyllenhaal has been working out a little bit for his new movie.

(https://puu.sh/dvm41/dc104ea85a.jpg)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on December 14, 2014, 11:32:37 PM
Ew.

Just had a Nicolas Cage marathon. Only had time for four movies so we started with Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans ( :metal), then watched The Wicker Man (:mehlin), The Frozen Ground (not as bad as I expected), and Deadfall- wow. Just wow. I had been wanting to see that one for a while because it's featured so well in the "Nicolas Cage losing his shit" video and it did not disappoint, though I thought he would have a slightly bigger role than he did.

The first one I found a little too long and not that interesting, but Cage's acting in it was top notch.
The second one is worth watching just to see him punch a chick out while wearing a bear suit.
The latter two I did not see, but it's a shame that you had a Nicolas Cage marathon and didn't include The Rock.

Yeah, but you can say that about a lot of his movies. Can't watch 'em all.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on December 14, 2014, 11:38:53 PM
Saw that a while back. Doesn't really mean shit to me except, cool, workouts and steroids. I still love the dumb cunts that argue that because they're Hollywood and/or think people are 'method actors' that steroids don't factor in... Anyone that knows the physiology of the human body past high school should know the obvious... Don't get me wrong, HE LOOKS SUPER COOL. But...y'know...kinda obvious. Anyway, I'll judge the movie based on the merits of...the movie...not the man making a super cool awesome face oh man such wow so mean many cumshots.

I'VE HAD A GREAT COUPLE DAYS, CAN YOU TELL!?

Night.  :heart :millahhhh :sadpanda:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on December 15, 2014, 12:09:23 AM
So I finally decided to watch The Holy Mountain. Wow, I'm definitely gonna have to watch that one again. Some may say it's pretentious, but it definitely had an air of self-awareness to it. For the first while of the movie I was unsure but as it went on I started to really get into what was going on. And the end made it all even more worthwhile.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: orcus116 on December 15, 2014, 07:48:16 PM
Finally got a chance to see The Lego Movie. The ghost scene absolutely killed me.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 15, 2014, 08:20:27 PM
Finally got a chance to see The Lego Movie. The ghost scene absolutely killed me.

Yeah, it was awesome. Just the comedic timing of it was great.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: KevShmev on December 15, 2014, 08:57:50 PM
I finally checked out Walk the Line.  I've been a Johnny Cash fan as long as I can remember (literally, I remember listening to my parents old vinyl in the old house when I was five), and thus was both wanted to see this movie, and didn't want to see it because a) everybody does their own singing, including Joaquin Phoenix (Johnny Cash) and Reese Witherspoon (June Carter), and b) it's "based on" actual facts, but as with all Hollywood biopics, takes certain liberties.  But I've seen a couple of decent documentaries lately about Johnny and June, and feel secure enough in the real story that I can watch a biopic and be entertained, and not worry too much about the embellishments.

It was actually pretty good.  Phoenix sings pretty well and is a good actor, and Reese is just so doggone cute that it was hard to take my eyes off the screen every time she was in a scene.

Yep, good flick.  :tup :tup
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on December 15, 2014, 10:10:00 PM
So Robert Pattinson really surprised me in his role in The Rover. I always knew Guy Pearce was an awesome actor but Pattinson came outta nowhere as his role as a (as Pearce's character so affectionately put it) half-wit with more creativity than anyone would give him for. It's a really slow, atmospheric movie that hits hard in nearly every scene barring the handful of scenic scenes that are sprinkled throughout. But it's as dark as they get, and I suppose by now that this type of movie is my kind of thing despite having a love/hate relationship with them. It ends on a somewhat ambivalent note and that says more about the movie than anything, but going back and watching it again should prove to be more revealing. Good stuff if you like apocalyptic, cold, merciless movies with a character that has a surprising amount of heart. Robbie-boy, you have shed your Twilight skin.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on December 15, 2014, 10:53:52 PM
Just watched "Now You See Me."

Extremely over the top with a ridiculous plot, but it was still fun. The dialog was great.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on December 16, 2014, 12:27:16 AM
So Robert Pattinson really surprised me in his role in The Rover.

I agree, although I should probably watch it again with subtitles. Barely understood a word out of his mouth with that accent.

Just watched "Now You See Me."

Extremely over the top with a ridiculous plot, but it was still fun. The dialog was great.

Pretty much this. It was a fun movie. But I do absolutely despise hypnosis in movies, so minus points for that.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on December 16, 2014, 01:32:12 AM
So Robert Pattinson really surprised me in his role in The Rover.

I agree, although I should probably watch it again with subtitles. Barely understood a word out of his mouth with that accent.

Just watched "Now You See Me."

Extremely over the top with a ridiculous plot, but it was still fun. The dialog was great.

Pretty much this. It was a fun movie. But I do absolutely despise hypnosis in movies, so minus points for that.
Yeah, that caught me off guard. I'm glad they set it up early so I knew what to expect.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 16, 2014, 07:20:41 AM
Just watched "Now You See Me."

Extremely over the top with a ridiculous plot, but it was still fun. The dialog was great.
Yes, our family enjoyed it quite a bit.

Looking forward to the sequel.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 16, 2014, 07:22:55 AM
"Now you don't" ?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on December 16, 2014, 11:14:08 AM
"Now you don't" ?

Now You See Me: The Second Act. But ^that would've been cooler.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 16, 2014, 12:12:34 PM
Now You See Me : Three Card Trick ( Part 1 obviously ).
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on December 16, 2014, 04:36:07 PM
Just watched The Other Guys.

I liked it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 16, 2014, 04:41:11 PM
Just watched The Other Guys.

I liked it.

The best part was when Dwayne Johnson and Samuel L. Jackson jumped off that building. That was so unexpected. The best shock value laugh I'd seen in a while.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: orcus116 on December 16, 2014, 05:45:10 PM
Just watched The Other Guys.

I liked it.

I feel like whoever wrote it didn't know how to handle the comedy, unless a lot of stuff was improvised. It had some potential but it felt like they were under the assumption that the audience wouldn't get any of the humor so they overdid it. For example when the boss kept saying TLC song titles, that was good enough but the second they decide to pat themselves on the back for coming up with something funny and have them actually mention TLC by name the entire joke falls completely flat.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on December 16, 2014, 06:44:50 PM
Just watched The Other Guys.

I liked it.

I feel like whoever wrote it didn't know how to handle the comedy, unless a lot of stuff was improvised. It had some potential but it felt like they were under the assumption that the audience wouldn't get any of the humor so they overdid it. For example when the boss kept saying TLC song titles, that was good enough but the second they decide to pat themselves on the back for coming up with something funny and have them actually mention TLC by name the entire joke falls completely flat.

Yeah, that's the vibe I got from the whole thing. It was good, but fell short of being really great. Like it was just missing something.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on December 16, 2014, 06:46:37 PM
Just watched The Other Guys.

I liked it.

I feel like whoever wrote it didn't know how to handle the comedy, unless a lot of stuff was improvised. It had some potential but it felt like they were under the assumption that the audience wouldn't get any of the humor so they overdid it. For example when the boss kept saying TLC song titles, that was good enough but the second they decide to pat themselves on the back for coming up with something funny and have them actually mention TLC by name the entire joke falls completely flat.

That's exactly how I felt about Austin Powers and Goldmember.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: orcus116 on December 16, 2014, 06:51:19 PM
I think those movies were more acceptable when they came out because I was 13 and didn't know any better. I mean say what you want about Goldmember now and it probably deserves it but that movie was an event when it came out.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on December 16, 2014, 06:53:31 PM
I loved austin powers and the sequel when they came out. But never could get into goldmember.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 16, 2014, 07:05:15 PM
I loved austin powers and the sequel when they came out. But never could get into goldmember.

Seeing Tom Cruise and Kevin Spacey as Austin Powers and Dr. Evil was well worth it though.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on December 16, 2014, 07:05:37 PM
Austin Powers and Austin Powers the Spy Who Shagged Me are beyond excellent. I saw Goldmember the day it came out in theaters and swore I'd never watch it again... still haven't.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on December 16, 2014, 08:24:43 PM
I loved the first one.   I didn't really care for Shagged Me.   On the whole it was OK, but Fat Bastard really kinda ruined it for me.    Gross and funny is ok, but Fat Bastard forgot to be funny...so he was just...gross.   
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 17, 2014, 06:05:49 AM
On the whole it was OK,

Would you say it felt good... On the whole?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: cramx3 on December 17, 2014, 06:09:56 AM
First one is a classic, second one was good but not great, third was just crap.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on December 17, 2014, 09:35:41 AM
Just watched the Lego Movie.

Absolutely incredible :clap:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on December 17, 2014, 09:51:17 AM
On the whole it was OK,

Would you say it felt good... On the whole?
This is too perfect. It's like you were set up for it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on December 17, 2014, 12:54:33 PM
Just finished watching High Fidelity. I dug it and everything, but somehow was kind of expecting more.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on December 17, 2014, 04:22:07 PM
Austin Powers and Austin Powers the Spy Who Shagged Me are beyond excellent. I saw Goldmember the day it came out in theaters and swore I'd never watch it again... still haven't.

The first time I saw Goldmember I thought it sucked, but when I watched it again some time later I laughed my ass off. Don't know why.

No I wasn't high.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 17, 2014, 07:12:49 PM
To be honest, Austin Powers generally just isn't my type of humor. I understand it, and I can enjoy it for what it is, and some of the jokes are pretty funny. But I remember some of my classmates were completely obsessed with it, and thought it was just the most hilarious movie that's ever existed, and I just could not take those people seriously, knowing that.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 17, 2014, 07:31:40 PM
Just finished watching High Fidelity. I dug it and everything, but somehow was kind of expecting more.

I fucking hate that film because everyone in it seems to think they're making some big statement and some really clever arty film about life and music maaaaaaaaan.

But it just comes off as pretentious and holier than thou. And Jack Black stars as Jack Black  :tdwn

I don't even mind films that break the fourth wall but you can tell that this film was based on a book because people don't talk naturally.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on December 17, 2014, 07:44:46 PM
Just finished watching High Fidelity. I dug it and everything, but somehow was kind of expecting more.

I fucking hate that film because everyone in it seems to think they're making some big statement and some really clever arty film about life and music maaaaaaaaan.

But it just comes off as pretentious and holier than thou. And Jack Black stars as Jack Black  :tdwn

I don't even mind films that break the fourth wall but you can tell that this film was based on a book because people don't talk naturally.

Yeah, I agree. Heard so much about it for years, but then finally watching it, it ended up not bringing that much to the table, all while being way too much up its own ass.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on December 17, 2014, 10:35:08 PM
Wow...I've never related to a single character in the history of film than I do Rob Gordon.  The first time I saw High Fidelity, I actually really got freaked out because it felt like someone had been following me all my life with a camera....that movie is my life story.     :'(
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: lucky7 on December 18, 2014, 05:50:18 AM
Just finished watching High Fidelity. I dug it and everything, but somehow was kind of expecting more.

I fucking hate that film because everyone in it seems to think they're making some big statement and some really clever arty film about life and music maaaaaaaaan.

But it just comes off as pretentious and holier than thou. And Jack Black stars as Jack Black  :tdwn

I don't even mind films that break the fourth wall but you can tell that this film was based on a book because people don't talk naturally.

Yeah, I agree. Heard so much about it for years, but then finally watching it, it ended up not bringing that much to the table, all while being way too much up its own ass.

I first saw this film when it first came out and as a huge fan of John Cusack and Tim Robbins knew it would have to be pretty bad for me to hate it.  Not a huge fan of a lot of the music, but it has a great premise.
I loved it then and I feel it is still great, and one thing to remember is this was early Jack Black...it may have been one of his earliest films if not his first.
I enjoyed the book as well.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on December 18, 2014, 09:29:52 AM
Even though Godfather III has its flaws, if there's one lesson I really took away from it, was to be careful of your decisions and think of the consequences they may have in the future. 

In Part II, Michael has absolute power and he punishes those who he feels have wronged him. Such as his brother for his betrayal and shutting his wife out of his life for what she did with the baby. In the moment he felt so justified, but so many years down the line he regrets those decisions.

There are difficult decisions i've made in my life that I've felt justified in doing, but I try very hard to stop myself before doing irreversible damage, all based on what I've taken away from these films.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 18, 2014, 05:23:36 PM
DISCUSS !

" Jaws is the only good shark movie that exists "
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on December 18, 2014, 05:54:18 PM
Deep blue sea has ll cool j with a parrot

(https://www.everythingaction.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/DeepBlueSeaLLCoolJ.jpg)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on December 18, 2014, 05:54:25 PM
I haven't seen that many shark movies, but that could be true. I remember liking Jaws 2 quite a bit as well, maybe out of nostalgia, maybe because most of the cast returned, but I always thought it was pretty good. Not as good as the first, but far from being hilariously bad as the third, or especially fourth movie in the franchise.

Another movie I wouldn't defend quality-wise, but still like to bring up is Deep Blue Sea. That movie is one of the prime examples of a really enjoyable B-movie, so dumb that it becomes entertaining. I will not defend the movie as a good movie, but it is stupid schlock and it knows it. Plus, I've always liked Thomas Jane, and he's a pretty likable lead IMO. Throw in some fun minor characters played by the likes of Samuel L Jackson, Stellan Skarsgård and LL Cool J, and you got a stupid & fun movie.

But as far as pure quality goes, Jaws is head and shoulders above the rest I have seen.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 18, 2014, 06:04:05 PM
Deep Blue Sea has a fantastically stupid line :

" We made the sharks brains 50% larger. But as a side effect.....they got smarter " :lol

Comedian Ed Byrne made fun of this by saying :

" We made the giraffes legs longer - but as a side effect - they got taller ! "


Deep Blue Sea is junk though and the CGI is appalling  ;D
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on December 18, 2014, 08:39:40 PM
double post...
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on December 18, 2014, 08:40:01 PM
I just have to say that this thread inspired me to re-watch High Fidelity...in a Cosby sweater.




A COSBY SWEATAAAAA!!!!!

 ;D
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on December 18, 2014, 10:43:17 PM
Even though Godfather III has its flaws, if there's one lesson I really took away from it, was to be careful of your decisions and think of the consequences they may have in the future. 

In Part II, Michael has absolute power and he punishes those who he feels have wronged him. Such as his brother for his betrayal and shutting his wife out of his life for what she did with the baby. In the moment he felt so justified, but so many years down the line he regrets those decisions.

There are difficult decisions i've made in my life that I've felt justified in doing, but I try very hard to stop myself before doing irreversible damage, all based on what I've taken away from these films.

All three Godfather movies are heavy with morality, values, decisions, and consequences.  A lot of people focus on the violence, but that's just part of the world these people live in.  The real story is in the people.

I know it sounds corny, but I've read The Godfather multiple times and watched the movies countless times, and I genuinely admire Vito Corleone and his values.  Not the part about killing people and regarding it merely as part of doing business, but the idea of doing whatever you can, whatever you have to do, to provide for your family.  You work within the system, within the law, if you can, but if the system itself is fucked up, it can be argued that you're justified in working outside the system.  Vito Corleone was a very moral man.  He rarely drank and hated drugs and whores.  He believed in monogamy, being a good father, always keeping your word, and helping others any way he could.  True, the "favors" he did for people were part of his ultimate strategy/philosophy of accumulating people who owed you favors, but he saw that as a natural result of always doing the right thing; of course it should eventually come back to you.  If people would just help each other when they can, there would always be someone to help you when you need it, and no one need ever fall on hard times.

And as you point out, there are lessons we can learn from Michael Corleone as well.  He inherited great power and wealth, but not his father's even temper.  He made many good decisions, and some really bad ones, too, often in the heat of the moment.  And in the end, he lost everything he valued because of it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 18, 2014, 11:36:14 PM
DISCUSS !

" Jaws is the only good shark movie that exists "


Sharknado would like to have a word with you. :neverusethis:





(that movie will literally give you brain cancer)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on December 19, 2014, 07:42:14 AM
DISCUSS !

" Jaws is the only good shark movie that exists "


Sharknado would like to have a word with you. :neverusethis:


I liked Deep Blue Sea. I've never seen Jaws. Sharknado is awesomely terrible.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 19, 2014, 11:02:09 AM
I must admit, I enjoyed Deep Blue Sea.  But it wasn't a great film, it was just a fun movie.

The ultimate is Jaws, followed by Jaws 2
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on December 19, 2014, 11:05:17 AM
While Deep Blue Sea was pretty stupid, it was definitely fun. However, the girl jumping in the water at the end pisses me off every time.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on December 19, 2014, 11:19:57 AM
Yeah but I think it was more of a symbolic thing. The whole "the creator getting killed by its creation", and plus she was pretty darn annoying during the movie, so she kinda had it coming. It did feel like it came a bit out of nowhere though.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on December 19, 2014, 11:22:34 AM
Yeah but I think it was more of a symbolic thing. The whole "the creator getting killed by its creation", and plus she was pretty darn annoying during the movie, so she kinda had it coming. It did feel like it came a bit out of nowhere though.

Wow. I never made that connection.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on December 19, 2014, 01:06:15 PM
Even though Godfather III has its flaws, if there's one lesson I really took away from it, was to be careful of your decisions and think of the consequences they may have in the future. 

In Part II, Michael has absolute power and he punishes those who he feels have wronged him. Such as his brother for his betrayal and shutting his wife out of his life for what she did with the baby. In the moment he felt so justified, but so many years down the line he regrets those decisions.

There are difficult decisions i've made in my life that I've felt justified in doing, but I try very hard to stop myself before doing irreversible damage, all based on what I've taken away from these films.

All three Godfather movies are heavy with morality, values, decisions, and consequences.  A lot of people focus on the violence, but that's just part of the world these people live in.  The real story is in the people.

I know it sounds corny, but I've read The Godfather multiple times and watched the movies countless times, and I genuinely admire Vito Corleone and his values.  Not the part about killing people and regarding it merely as part of doing business, but the idea of doing whatever you can, whatever you have to do, to provide for your family.  You work within the system, within the law, if you can, but if the system itself is fucked up, it can be argued that you're justified in working outside the system.  Vito Corleone was a very moral man.  He rarely drank and hated drugs and whores.  He believed in monogamy, being a good father, always keeping your word, and helping others any way he could.  True, the "favors" he did for people were part of his ultimate strategy/philosophy of accumulating people who owed you favors, but he saw that as a natural result of always doing the right thing; of course it should eventually come back to you.  If people would just help each other when they can, there would always be someone to help you when you need it, and no one need ever fall on hard times.

And as you point out, there are lessons we can learn from Michael Corleone as well.  He inherited great power and wealth, but not his father's even temper.  He made many good decisions, and some really bad ones, too, often in the heat of the moment.  And in the end, he lost everything he valued because of it.

Agreed, and thank you for taking the time to respond. A lots been on my mind lately and a re-watch of the trilogy is always something that settles my mind a little bit.


In other news, today I watched The Wolf of Wallstreet

The bottom line is that I liked it, but man oh man, did it feel like I was watching goodfellas/Casino, but the huge difference is that at the end of Casino's 3 hour run time, I was like "wow, its already done", with the wolf of wallstreet, only one hour in, I was like "damn, two hours to go..."

But ultimately, I did like it and am glad I watched it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: KevShmev on December 20, 2014, 01:32:38 PM
Even though Godfather III has its flaws, if there's one lesson I really took away from it, was to be careful of your decisions and think of the consequences they may have in the future. 

In Part II, Michael has absolute power and he punishes those who he feels have wronged him. Such as his brother for his betrayal and shutting his wife out of his life for what she did with the baby. In the moment he felt so justified, but so many years down the line he regrets those decisions.

There are difficult decisions i've made in my life that I've felt justified in doing, but I try very hard to stop myself before doing irreversible damage, all based on what I've taken away from these films.

All three Godfather movies are heavy with morality, values, decisions, and consequences.  A lot of people focus on the violence, but that's just part of the world these people live in.  The real story is in the people.

I know it sounds corny, but I've read The Godfather multiple times and watched the movies countless times, and I genuinely admire Vito Corleone and his values.  Not the part about killing people and regarding it merely as part of doing business, but the idea of doing whatever you can, whatever you have to do, to provide for your family.  You work within the system, within the law, if you can, but if the system itself is fucked up, it can be argued that you're justified in working outside the system.  Vito Corleone was a very moral man.  He rarely drank and hated drugs and whores.  He believed in monogamy, being a good father, always keeping your word, and helping others any way he could.  True, the "favors" he did for people were part of his ultimate strategy/philosophy of accumulating people who owed you favors, but he saw that as a natural result of always doing the right thing; of course it should eventually come back to you.  If people would just help each other when they can, there would always be someone to help you when you need it, and no one need ever fall on hard times.

And as you point out, there are lessons we can learn from Michael Corleone as well.  He inherited great power and wealth, but not his father's even temper.  He made many good decisions, and some really bad ones, too, often in the heat of the moment.  And in the end, he lost everything he valued because of it.

Great, great post. :tup :tup

And it's very true about Vito.  Even at the beginning of I, he says, "We're not murderers, despite what this undertaker thinks," and says he wants reliable people who aren't gonna get carried away.  While ordering the murder of two really bad guys is still a pretty bad act, it showed that he did in fact have values and standards when it came down to the nitty gritty.  The same cannot be said for Sonny or Michael, his two successors.  It's almost like they learned very little from their father, and the irony is that Michael thought he was taught everything he knows by his father, yet Vito died being loved and surrounded by his entire family, while Michael became a broken and beaten man, and died alone.  Sonny, of course, died because he was a hot head, which his enemies knew was his weak spot.  Hell, even the hit on Vito wasn't done because The Turk hated him; it was because he didn't provide the service he wanted.  You got the impression that Sollozzo didn't dislike Vito; he just needed him gone so Sonny could take over and do the deal he wanted.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on December 20, 2014, 03:21:46 PM
Exactly.  Solozzo respected Vito, but knew that his (Solozzo's) plans could never go through while Vito was around.  Sonny tipped his hand during that meeting when he said "So you're telling me that if you can <something>, then we can <something>?"  The meeting after which Vito told Sonny "Never tell anyone outside the family what you're thinking."  And Vito was right.  Solozzo knew then what he had to do, and he ordered the hit on Vito.

Also, point of correction, Vito did not order the murder of the two guys who beat up Bonasera's daughter.  Bonasera asked for justice, for those two guys to die, and Vito told him that that's not justice, since his daughter still lives, ruined though she is.  Vito had the two guys beaten within inches of their lives, but not killed.  That's why he said "We're not murderers, despite what this undertaker thinks."  The papers reported that it was a miracle that the guys survived such save savage beatings, but that's exactly what Vito ordered, justice.  An eye for an eye.

Michael did learn pretty much everything he father could teach him.  The "problem" was that Michael also served in the military.  All that cunning, learning how to persuade people, how to cultivate relationships and build empires, was combined with a cold, ruthless detachment.  It made Michael a stronger leader, but feared rather than respected, and ultimately hated rather than loved.  Kay was the mother of his children, but he never forgave her for taking them away from him, even though they made their peace by the end of III.  And she never really forgave him for all the lies, and shutting her out both intellectually and emotionally.  Michael even saw killing his own brother as tragic, but "something that needed to be done" because of Fredo's betrayal.  Vito would never, ever have done that.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on December 20, 2014, 04:31:49 PM
Just saw 'The Babadook'. Very disturbing. It's so refreshing when a horror movie doesn't rely on cheap jump scares like so many crap movies do these days, and instead focuses on actually terrifying stuff. Very good movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 20, 2014, 04:48:44 PM
Jump scares are so cheap. I fully agree with the term " cattle prod cinema ".

Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dimitrius on December 20, 2014, 05:55:30 PM
Just saw 'The Babadook'. Very disturbing. It's so refreshing when a horror movie doesn't rely on cheap jump scares like so many crap movies do these days, and instead focuses on actually terrifying stuff. Very good movie.
Yep! I loved that movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on December 20, 2014, 09:14:28 PM
Jump scares are so cheap. I fully agree with the term " cattle prod cinema ".
I've never heard that term, but it fits perfectly.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on December 21, 2014, 11:17:37 AM
I'm watching The Prestige for the first time. I'm about halfway through, but I'm starting to come up with a theory.

I'm thinking that Robert is pissed off at his double, so he arranged for him to be killed in the water tank. This leads to Alfred being arrested, so he's willing to give up his secret for his daughter, and this is somehow orchestrated by Rob to obtain said secret. I still don't know how Tesla and his machine play into this.

I won't be checking this thread until I'm finished with the movie.

Edit: I lied about checking this thread after the movie was finished. If this is going where I think it's going, I find it incredibly stupid.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on December 21, 2014, 01:06:37 PM
The Prestige is really awesome. Probably my second favorite Nolan movie after Memento.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on December 21, 2014, 01:11:32 PM
[SPOILERS]

The whole cloning thing was stupid.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The King in Crimson on December 21, 2014, 01:36:49 PM
[SPOILERS]

The whole cloning thing was stupid.
I liked it, though I wouldn't call it a twist. It's patently obvious as soon as Tesla's machine is revealed and its nature explored. That last shot with the tanks is pretty horrifying actually.

OTOH, the other 'twist' in the movie is balls-achingly stupid. Namely the twin brother twist. It's like something out of a shitty soap opera.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Lucien on December 21, 2014, 01:37:20 PM
Keep it happy, keep it snappy, keep it gaaaaaaaay!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on December 21, 2014, 01:47:53 PM
[SPOILERS]

The whole cloning thing was stupid.
I liked it, though I wouldn't call it a twist. It's patently obvious as soon as Tesla's machine is revealed and its nature explored. That last shot with the tanks is pretty horrifying actually.

OTOH, the other 'twist' in the movie is balls-achingly stupid. Namely the twin brother twist. It's like something out of a shitty soap opera.
Early on, I kind of thought they would go with that, but I thought "nah, it'd be too gimmicky for a movie of this caliber." But as for the cloning device, I realized that's what they were shooting for, after I connected the dots from the hats to Tesla's introduction. I still would have preferred something grounded in reality. Haha. Grounded.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on December 21, 2014, 02:20:59 PM
The Prestige is awesome.

That last shot with the tanks is pretty horrifying actually.

Very much so. I still think of that from time to time, and it's been ages since I last saw this movie, I don't nearly remember all of it. But that shit sticks with you.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on December 21, 2014, 03:22:42 PM
I watched Guarding Tess last night, which was kind of adorable.

I'm on a Cage roll, so next will be Snake Eyes.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 21, 2014, 03:28:43 PM
[SPOILERS]

The whole cloning thing was stupid.
I liked it, though I wouldn't call it a twist. It's patently obvious as soon as Tesla's machine is revealed and its nature explored. That last shot with the tanks is pretty horrifying actually.

OTOH, the other 'twist' in the movie is balls-achingly stupid. Namely the twin brother twist. It's like something out of a shitty soap opera.
Early on, I kind of thought they would go with that, but I thought "nah, it'd be too gimmicky for a movie of this caliber." But as for the cloning device, I realized that's what they were shooting for, after I connected the dots from the hats to Tesla's introduction. I still would have preferred something grounded in reality. Haha. Grounded.


As soon as they reveal it's a cloning machine - how are you NOT Supposed to think Angier is copying himself every night ? Is the twist supposed to be that he's dying

every night too ?

Also - Alfred Bordon , Robert Angier.  A.B.R.A.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on December 21, 2014, 10:22:15 PM
I watched Guarding Tess last night, which was kind of adorable.

I'm on a Cage roll, so next will be Snake Eyes.

I enjoyed Guarding Tess a lot more than I thought I would.  Cage really sells it, and was great.  I completely bought that he couldn't stand her and hated being on her detail, but did it and did it to the best of his abilities, because it was his job and it's who he is.  The pain in his eyes every time the President called him and asked for a "favor" was awesome and hilarious.  There's just no way he was going to say No to him, and he was going to hate doing it, but he was gonna do it, and he was even gonna kick ass at it.

I caught part of Snake Eyes on cable recently, and hoped I would get sucked into it, but I didn't know what was going on, and all I saw was Cage being Cage.  Which is great if you know what's going on, but I didn't, so it didn't work.  I'll try to catch it from the beginning some time.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on December 21, 2014, 10:26:33 PM
[SPOILERS]

The whole cloning thing was stupid.
I liked it, though I wouldn't call it a twist. It's patently obvious as soon as Tesla's machine is revealed and its nature explored. That last shot with the tanks is pretty horrifying actually.

OTOH, the other 'twist' in the movie is balls-achingly stupid. Namely the twin brother twist. It's like something out of a shitty soap opera.
Early on, I kind of thought they would go with that, but I thought "nah, it'd be too gimmicky for a movie of this caliber." But as for the cloning device, I realized that's what they were shooting for, after I connected the dots from the hats to Tesla's introduction. I still would have preferred something grounded in reality. Haha. Grounded.


As soon as they reveal it's a cloning machine - how are you NOT Supposed to think Angier is copying himself every night ? Is the twist supposed to be that he's dying
No, that's my point. The whole notion of a cloning machine period is stupid. I would have been able to suspend my disbelief more if Angier's first "double" (the non-clone one) was killed in the tank and they scratched the whole Tesla thing altogether.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on December 21, 2014, 11:24:36 PM
I watched Guarding Tess last night, which was kind of adorable.

I'm on a Cage roll, so next will be Snake Eyes.

I enjoyed Guarding Tess a lot more than I thought I would.  Cage really sells it, and was great.  I completely bought that he couldn't stand her and hated being on her detail, but did it and did it to the best of his abilities, because it was his job and it's who he is.  The pain in his eyes every time the President called him and asked for a "favor" was awesome and hilarious.  There's just no way he was going to say No to him, and he was going to hate doing it, but he was gonna do it, and he was even gonna kick ass at it.



You're right, he really does sell it. I love his little outbursts, as usual.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: ozzy554 on December 22, 2014, 08:31:01 AM
I watched Guarding Tess last night, which was kind of adorable.

I'm on a Cage roll, so next will be Snake Eyes.

I Thought Snake eyes was pretty good until the ending.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on December 22, 2014, 08:33:26 AM
I watched Beverly Hills Cop over the weekend for the first time. There was some pretty stupid stuff in it, but I thought it was great. I'm a big Eddie Murphy fan, especially from that era. I was cracking up when he told the lie to the Beverly Hills Chief, which he believed, and then got pissed at the local cop for being honest and saying it wasn't true  :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on December 22, 2014, 08:50:34 AM
Beverly Hills Cop is great. I even enjoy the sequels, because despite the fact that the plot gets thinner and thinner, Eddie Murphy is still fun in that role. Whenever he goes out of character and pretends to be someone else, it's hilarious.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on December 22, 2014, 08:51:58 AM
Beverly Hills Cop is great. I even enjoy the sequels, because despite the fact that the plot gets thinner and thinner, Eddie Murphy is still fun in that role. Whenever he goes out of character and pretends to be someone else, it's hilarious.

I completely forgot when he put on the gay voice in the restaurant and told the host to relay the message that he had an STD  :rollin
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bl5150 on December 22, 2014, 09:31:43 AM
The sudden change in his posture and "Yeth......"  :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmNJ03s2ZuM
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 22, 2014, 11:31:05 AM
I watched Beverly Hills Cop over the weekend for the first time. There was some pretty stupid stuff in it, but I thought it was great. I'm a big Eddie Murphy fan, especially from that era. I was cracking up when he told the lie to the Beverly Hills Chief, which he believed, and then got pissed at the local cop for being honest and saying it wasn't true  :lol

Before I go, I just want you two to know something, alright? The supercop story... was working. Okay? It was working, and you guys just messed it up. Okay? I'm trying to figure you guys out, but I haven't yet. But it's cool. You fuck up a perfectly good lie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 23, 2014, 11:11:23 PM
I watched Beverly Hills Cop over the weekend for the first time. There was some pretty stupid stuff in it, but I thought it was great. I'm a big Eddie Murphy fan, especially from that era. I was cracking up when he told the lie to the Beverly Hills Chief, which he believed, and then got pissed at the local cop for being honest and saying it wasn't true  :lol
:tup

Guess what? Part 2? Pretty great as well! I actually like Part 2 better. Even if some people don't share this opinion, I still think it's worth checking out, especially if you're a fan of Eddie Murphy from that era.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on December 24, 2014, 06:33:57 PM
Just saw 'Gone Girl', and it was amazing.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on December 24, 2014, 11:13:39 PM
Just saw 'Gone Girl', and it was amazing.

I'm halfway through and am taking a break and already I know it's my movie of the year. This shit is fucking nuts, it's beautiful. Fincher is awesome and apparently hasn't lost his touch one fuckin' bit. The script and original story makes it even better. Awesome.

Finished. Holy god damn fucking cocksucking son of a bitch. I'll watch this movie more than I have Fight Club. Which is a fucking shitload. Whoa. WHOA. WHOA. WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA. That shit. Is human incarnate. Great. Orgasmic.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on December 26, 2014, 02:59:26 PM
Yea Gone Girl was brilliant! Did anyone felt a dark humorous undertone throughout the movie? I don't know maybe I just enjoyed the movie a little too much...  :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on December 26, 2014, 04:24:44 PM
Yea Gone Girl was brilliant! Did anyone felt a dark humorous undertone throughout the movie? I don't know maybe I just enjoyed the movie a little too much...  :lol

Maybe sometimes, but like you said it's just an undertone.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: gmillerdrake on December 26, 2014, 04:40:55 PM
I watched Beverly Hills Cop over the weekend for the first time. There was some pretty stupid stuff in it, but I thought it was great. I'm a big Eddie Murphy fan, especially from that era. I was cracking up when he told the lie to the Beverly Hills Chief, which he believed, and then got pissed at the local cop for being honest and saying it wasn't true  :lol
:tup

Guess what? Part 2? Pretty great as well! I actually like Part 2 better. Even if some people don't share this opinion, I still think it's worth checking out, especially if you're a fan of Eddie Murphy from that era.

Yeah, Part 2 is jsut as funny. Two very funny movies with Eddie at his best.


















































Never.....and I mean NEVER......watch Beverly Hills Cop Three. You will want to dive head first off a cliff into an ocean of broken Coke bottles.......
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 26, 2014, 04:54:06 PM
Yeah BHC 3 is weird. It doesn't really *begin* and the ending is a huge anti-climax.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on December 26, 2014, 04:59:10 PM
Yeah BHC 3 is weird. It doesn't really *begin* and the ending is a huge anti-climax.
Sounds like Popeye.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on December 27, 2014, 02:56:43 PM
Saw Hunger Games, Mockingjay today. It was sweet.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: orcus116 on December 27, 2014, 04:28:05 PM
Saw Whiplash. Incredible movie, please go see.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on December 27, 2014, 04:29:45 PM
Saw Whiplash. Incredible movie, please go see.

I wanna see it so badly, but it doesn't come out here until February.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dark Castle on December 27, 2014, 04:43:50 PM
Watched The Interview. I found it to be pretty enjoyable, will probably buy it down the road.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 27, 2014, 06:15:02 PM
Watched The Interview. I found it to be pretty enjoyable, will probably buy it down the road.

Agreed entirely. It reminded me of Rambo in that whole, taking a serious world issue and solving it by over the top means way. For two hours, you immerse yourself and watch the good guys really win. Just sucks that after the movie, you realize that nothing's been solved and the world is still a fucked up place, haha.
But yeah, in terms of the writing and the comedy, I thought it was really well done. I just hope they like exposure and praise because I have a feeling that they won't be seeing too much royalty money on this one.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on December 27, 2014, 08:08:43 PM
Emma Watson will reportedly appear topless in next film.

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2014/12/27/emma-watson-will-reportedly-appear-topless-in-next-movie/

Is it childish, immature, and shallow of me to be excited about this? I really don't care.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 27, 2014, 08:12:55 PM
Is there even anything there to see? It must be a thing about kids who grew up watching her in Harry Potter movies, because I don't see what the fuss is about. :dunno:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on December 27, 2014, 08:16:37 PM
Yeah. I have no idea what you're talking about.

(https://puu.sh/dM2sT/8cefa98f3b.jpg)

(https://puu.sh/dM2wd/25c24d2b93.jpg)

(https://puu.sh/dM2z0/c8a76254cb.jpg)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 27, 2014, 08:24:51 PM
That second pic is a Photoshop on someone else's body. I'm still not seeing evidence she has anything worth seeing.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on December 27, 2014, 09:14:23 PM
It's not so much about "oh my god, I wonder what it looks like under there!" as it is seeing someone so beautiful in all her exposed glory.

That sounded less creepy in my head.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dark Castle on December 27, 2014, 09:28:29 PM
She's somebody that one grew up dreaming about (at least I did)
She's a cutie patootie, the gal you grew up daydreaming about.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TheGreatPretender on December 28, 2014, 12:43:21 AM
That second pic is a Photoshop on someone else's body. I'm still not seeing evidence she has anything worth seeing.

Unless the second pic is the only one that's actually real. Maybe her head floats over her neck, separate from the rest of her.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on December 28, 2014, 03:53:06 AM
I didn't grow up with the Harry Potter movies, didn't really know who she was until all the internet hype began, but I still like her. She's a great actress, she seems like a decent person in real life, and she's very pretty. So, I don't see what's not to like.

Is she the pinnacle of hotness and sexytude? No. But that's really not as intriguing to me as someone more modestly cute.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 28, 2014, 05:22:52 AM
Is there even anything there to see? It must be a thing about kids who grew up watching her in Harry Potter movies, because I don't see what the fuss is about. :dunno:
This.  I don't get it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on December 28, 2014, 05:37:36 AM
I saw The Interview yesterday... Fucking hysterical.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on December 28, 2014, 07:18:04 AM
Fuck Emma Watson.

Fuck The Interview.

The Drop was pretty awesome. At the very least a lot better than I expected and despite being slightly "aw damn" over the fact that Gandolfini is actually dead, I was so god damn glad that he died in the movie. Played the asshole perfectly.  :rollin :-\ Peace, you be resting in, bro. Hardy gave a tour de force performance the whole movie. He was just so brooding the entire time and yet so calm and then...the storm. I love it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: orcus116 on December 28, 2014, 07:44:09 AM
Saw Gravity and Snowpiercer. Gravity was beautifully shot but had almost no substance, 6/10. Snowpiercer is interesting but was edited together in a slightly bizarre fashion where a lot of the sequences had a confusing choreographed look to them that was hard to follow. Went on for a little too long and I didn't like how the two halves of the movies had completely different styles to them. 6/10.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: KevShmev on December 28, 2014, 07:52:21 AM
I recently saw Hoosiers for the first time, finally.  I enjoyed it, but holy mother of pearl, you could drive an 18-wheeler through some of those plot holes.  :lol :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on December 28, 2014, 08:30:45 AM
Enjoyed The Equalizer very much which I didn't think I do. Just very satisfying seeing Denzel as a badass in complete control.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on December 28, 2014, 08:33:38 AM
Enjoyed The Equalizer very much which I didn't think I do. Just very satisfying seeing Denzel as a badass in complete control.

Part of that movie was filmed about 5 minutes from my brother's house and I shopped in that Lowes building they used for the film.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on December 28, 2014, 08:35:20 AM
 :metal
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 28, 2014, 09:04:54 AM
I recently saw Hoosiers for the first time, finally.
Godammit, Kev, how can you be a white American sports fan your age who had never before seen Hoosiers?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on December 28, 2014, 09:17:17 AM
I recently saw Hoosiers for the first time, finally.
Godammit, Kev, how can you be a white American sports fan your age who had never before seen Hoosiers?

Double Godammit.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: KevShmev on December 28, 2014, 10:12:18 AM
Who the hell knows? :lol :lol  For some reason, it has just escaped me.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on December 28, 2014, 09:13:35 PM
Hobbit 3 was amazing.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on December 28, 2014, 09:17:47 PM
Hobbit 3 was amazing.

Really?  I've been a defender this entire time, but I was underwhelmed by the new one.   I'm really hoping that the extended version fills some of the gaping holes.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on December 28, 2014, 09:23:50 PM
Hobbit 3 was amazing.

Really?  I've been a defender this entire time, but I was underwhelmed by the new one.   I'm really hoping that the extended version fills some of the gaping holes.

Yeah, it's already my favorite of the franchise.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on December 29, 2014, 03:09:26 AM
It's my favorite of the Hobbit trilogy too.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on December 29, 2014, 03:56:26 AM
I feel very mildly enthusiastic about it and will probably wait for a BluRay release. Even if it ends up being my favorite of the trilogy, that ain't saying much.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on December 29, 2014, 08:26:51 AM
I saw it the other night, and as a big fan of the book, I found it pretty atrocious.  There was actually more in the movie that was made up by Peter Jackson than content from the actual source material, and it was still the shortest of the six Middle Earth movies.  Alfrid seemed like Grima II and got far too much screen time, as did Tauriel, Legolas, Thranduil, Azog, and even Bard.  We got very little of Bilbo and the Dwarves, and this is their story.  Okay, we got a lot of the dwarves, but almost none of it was from the book.

I guess I can see how folks who've never read the book could find the movies entertaining and even satisfying.  I'm happy for them.  I pretty much felt like I wasted 10 bucks.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on December 29, 2014, 09:53:36 AM
I enjoyed the 1:st and 2:nd but found myself being less entertained by the 3:rd to the point I fell asleep sometime in the middle of the movie.

(https://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-confused013.gif)

All in all I didn't find that magic in the triolgy like in the LOTR which probably ain't a surprise but they're really well made movies though.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: ozzy554 on December 29, 2014, 10:21:11 AM
now that the hobbit movies are done I can go back to hoping for a bad taste 2
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Xanthul on December 29, 2014, 02:52:28 PM
Alfrid seemed like Grima II

I know where you're coming from but that comparison is a monumental disrespect to Brad Dourif and his fantastic job as Grima. Alfrid is just annoying and I would be perfectly fine if they cut all of his scenes from the movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on December 29, 2014, 03:19:46 PM
So I just watched Nightcrawler and it was brilliant. I know Keaton is probably a lock for the Academy Award, but Gyllenhaal delivered, probably the best performance of his career and would be a worthy winner. The movie reminded me a lot of Taxi Driver and Drive, a really atmospheric and creepy movie about the seedy underbelly of the city during night time.

If you haven't seen it, you should.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dark Castle on December 29, 2014, 04:02:20 PM
Great movie, but that was so uncomfortable at times  :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on December 29, 2014, 04:28:25 PM
Yeah, 'Nightcrawler' was great. And I have heard way too much good things about 'Birdman' not to see it by now. Will hopefully find the time for that before the Academy Awards.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on December 29, 2014, 05:00:37 PM
Great movie, but that was so uncomfortable at times  :lol

Yeah there was a lot of very creepy and unsettling moments. Gyllenhaal really nailed his part, and some of the scenes were just incredibly creepy. I like the fact that they didn't actually show anything from his "relationship" with Rene Russo's character. It was basically just implied, and that made it even darker and creepier. Not knowing made you fantasize about the darkest of places, and it made Gyllenhaal even creepier.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on December 29, 2014, 06:30:16 PM
Alfrid seemed like Grima II

I know where you're coming from but that comparison is a monumental disrespect to Brad Dourif and his fantastic job as Grima. Alfrid is just annoying and I would be perfectly fine if they cut all of his scenes from the movie.

Yeah, Brad Dourif is always awesome.  Alfrid was just annoying, a completely pointless character.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on December 29, 2014, 08:28:11 PM
Yeah, 'Nightcrawler' was great. And I have heard way too much good things about 'Birdman' not to see it by now. Will hopefully find the time for that before the Academy Awards.

I didn't love it as much as everyone else seems to. I enjoyed it, I thought the acting was great, and it had some really good moments/qualities, but overall I guess I don't see what the big deal is.

And the music, ugh.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: orcus116 on December 29, 2014, 09:26:33 PM
Grand Budapest Hotel. Incredibly fun to watch and I loved the whimsical aspect of it. It's Wes Anderson acknlowdegding himself and his style and takes it to the max. 9/10.

Wolf of Wal Street. Very solid and surprised at the runtime since I never got bored of it. 8/10.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on December 29, 2014, 09:48:22 PM
Still haven't seen Wolf, but Grand Budapest is amazing  :heart
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on December 29, 2014, 09:53:11 PM
I love Wes Anderson so much. He gets a lot of hate and I can see why but his style is so damn enjoyable.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on December 30, 2014, 02:21:51 AM
Aside from that 'skiing-down-the-mountain' scene, which was really just too much, 'Grand Budapest' was an awesome movie with a lot of great performances.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Silver Tears on December 30, 2014, 03:46:34 AM
Wes Anderson is great.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 30, 2014, 04:03:59 AM
Wes Anderson is great.


FTFY
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on December 30, 2014, 07:08:01 AM
I decided to try and give super heroes a chance despite the fact that I thought The Avengers was one of the most overrated movies I've ever seen. I noticed the first three batmans were on Netflix. I actually really enjoyed the first one. It was dark and I really liked the joker in it. Plus, it had that 80s charm that I really like. The second movie was decent, but nowhere near as good as the first one. While I really liked Danny DeVito's acting as Penguin, I thought the villain itself was pretty stupid. Also, I thought the addition of Cat Woman was completely pointless and not necessary.  As for the third movie, I really wasn't feeling it. Jim Carrey was the only redeeming factor in it, and the new actor they had playing Batman sucked.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Bolsters on December 30, 2014, 07:21:03 AM
If you think Forever was bad, wait until you see Batman & Robin. :rollin
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 30, 2014, 07:27:41 AM
Batman and Robin is incredibad. It's amazing.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 30, 2014, 07:57:37 AM
I decided to try and give super heroes a chance despite the fact that I thought The Avengers was one of the most overrated movies I've ever seen. I noticed the first three batmans were on Netflix. I actually really enjoyed the first one. It was dark and I really liked the joker in it. Plus, it had that 80s charm that I really like. The second movie was decent, but nowhere near as good as the first one. While I really liked Danny DeVito's acting as Penguin, I thought the villain itself was pretty stupid. Also, I thought the addition of Cat Woman was completely pointless and not necessary.  As for the third movie, I really wasn't feeling it. Jim Carrey was the only redeeming factor in it, and the new actor they had playing Batman sucked.
I will just say that you watched the wrong 3 Batman films.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 30, 2014, 07:58:52 AM
All Batman films are the wrong Batman films.





Unless it has Adam West in it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 30, 2014, 08:02:11 AM
All Batman films are the wrong Batman films.





Unless it has Adam West in it.
Your Batman opinion is disqualified.


EDIT: Just remembered I'm wearing a shirt with the logo from the Batman TV show.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on December 30, 2014, 08:05:11 AM
Blob, if you put a Youtube video of you doing the Bat Watusi, I will agree with you.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on December 30, 2014, 08:13:12 AM
I decided to try and give super heroes a chance despite the fact that I thought The Avengers was one of the most overrated movies I've ever seen. I noticed the first three batmans were on Netflix. I actually really enjoyed the first one. It was dark and I really liked the joker in it. Plus, it had that 80s charm that I really like. The second movie was decent, but nowhere near as good as the first one. While I really liked Danny DeVito's acting as Penguin, I thought the villain itself was pretty stupid. Also, I thought the addition of Cat Woman was completely pointless and not necessary.  As for the third movie, I really wasn't feeling it. Jim Carrey was the only redeeming factor in it, and the new actor they had playing Batman sucked.
I will just say that you watched the wrong 3 Batman films.

They were the only ones available on Netflix. What other ones are there besides the three latest ones?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on December 30, 2014, 08:16:51 AM
DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT WATCH THE FORTH BATMAN MOVIE!! :lol


The newer Batman films will blow your mind Brian.

Batman Begins
The Dark Knight
The Dark Knight Rises
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 30, 2014, 08:25:59 AM
Batman Begins
The Dark Knight
The Dark Knight Rises
This is the correct answer.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 30, 2014, 08:27:41 AM
I didn't find either of the first two Bale Batmans the slightest bit entertaining. Obviously didn't bother with TDKR. At least the others were entertainingly bad.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on December 30, 2014, 08:31:17 AM
I didn't find either of the first two Bale Batmans the slightest bit entertaining. Obviously didn't bother with TDKR. At least the others were entertainingly bad.

I know will shame you on the internet so that this shame will be forever documented.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 30, 2014, 08:32:02 AM
I didn't find either of the first two Bale Batmans the slightest bit entertaining. Obviously didn't bother with TDKR. At least the others were entertainingly bad.

I know will shame you on the internet so that this shame will be forever documented.

With grammar that shameful, I don't think you're qualified to shame anyone else.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on December 30, 2014, 08:36:05 AM
It is well documented my spelling is that of a 10 year old, yet you always get my point! :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on December 30, 2014, 08:37:25 AM
'Batman Begins' is fairly good, and so is 'The Dark Knight Rises'. Only 'The Dark Knight' is truly great.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 30, 2014, 08:53:55 AM
I didn't find either of the first two Bale Batmans the slightest bit entertaining.
Godammit Blob.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on December 30, 2014, 09:27:50 AM
'Batman Begins' is fairly good, and so is 'The Dark Knight Rises'. Only 'The Dark Knight' is truly great.

Batman Begins is a great movie.  A-
The Dark Knight is a masterpiece. A+
The Dark Knight Rises is a very good movie. B+
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 30, 2014, 10:02:34 AM
'Batman Begins' is fairly good, and so is 'The Dark Knight Rises'. Only 'The Dark Knight' is truly great.

Batman Begins is a great movie.  A-
The Dark Knight is a masterpiece. A+
The Dark Knight Rises is a very good movie. B+
I agree with this assessment.  And, as we all know...

Hef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on December 30, 2014, 10:05:03 AM
 :lol

Blob, you brought this on yourself.  See, the internet does come back to bite you. :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 30, 2014, 10:10:16 AM
:djhef:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dark Castle on December 30, 2014, 10:13:53 AM
I'd put em:
TDKR
TDK
BB

Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on December 30, 2014, 10:15:31 AM
I saw TDK. That was my first super hero movie. I didn't really get it. Now that I've seen a few, I'd like to go back and watch it.
 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 30, 2014, 10:19:51 AM
I saw TDK. That was my first super hero movie. I didn't really get it. Now that I've seen a few, I'd like to go back and watch it.
Probably would have helped to watch Batman Begins first, but what wasn't to get?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on December 30, 2014, 10:29:23 AM
I saw TDK. That was my first super hero movie. I didn't really get it. Now that I've seen a few, I'd like to go back and watch it.
Probably would have helped to watch Batman Begins first, but what wasn't to get?

Idk... I guess the whole vibe/feel/idea/concept behinds a super hero and his/her villain. When I watched TDK, I could suspend my reality beliefs (if that makes sense). The idea that one person (the joker) could do all that damage, have virtually unlimited resourses, and not be caught was not believable at all to me. That made the story less fun. But now, having watched a few super hero movies, I understand that all logic and realism needs to be put on the back burner. I know it sounds whack, but that's a concept I'm really not all that familiar with.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on December 30, 2014, 10:44:36 AM
Well, he had been spending months and months stealing countless million dollars from the mob, like in the opening scene. If you're wondering where the Joker gets the resources. That's mostly me thinking aloud though, since I only just realized that myself actually, haha.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on December 30, 2014, 11:20:43 AM
Never in my life have I ever been in a movie theater and seen an audience reaction like I did to the famous pencil scene in that movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on December 30, 2014, 11:25:03 AM
Chino, you confuse the FUCK outta me. God damn it.  :lol

Same here, Jammin. I saw it twice in theaters and both times the audience had the same reaction which was "OHHHH" - *claps briefly*.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on December 30, 2014, 11:27:44 AM
Chino, you confuse the FUCK outta me. God damn it.  :lol

Honest question (as far as movies go). Why?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on December 30, 2014, 11:33:28 AM
When a movie is generally loved by all critics and 97% of the movie going audience, the 3% like you who don't like it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 30, 2014, 11:35:02 AM
Probably because you can't suspend disbelief for the Joker (which is the most realistic of all movie supervillains) but you have no problem swallowing whatever Cameron smilees on the screen.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on December 30, 2014, 11:47:11 AM
Probably because you can't suspend disbelief for the Joker (which is the most realistic of all movie supervillains) but you have no problem swallowing whatever Cameron smilees on the screen.

Blue smile.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on December 30, 2014, 11:52:40 AM
Half joking and half of what Hef said. I mean I TOTALLY get that 'suspending one's belief' is in a different category when viewing a sci/fi film and viewing a superhero film that was explicitly set out to be realistic in every way, and yeah, there's always that tinge of 'really?' in EVERY movie, barring a very, very select classics; but I honestly think TDK is pretty close to being one of those classics. For what The Joker was, for how off-the-grid he was and how perfectly he set up his plan, you're right, he pretty much DID have unlimited resources for the very obviously explained mob-scene in which he stole countless dollars from them. Is that in itself perhaps a little shaky? Maybe. But again, for as much off-the-wall stuff that happens in Avatar, I'd just think a person would be a bit more lenient, that's all.  :lol And I know, I'm sure it gets tiring having Avatar thrown in your face all the time but...you gotta expect that when you've got that blue smile all over your mouth.  :P :-*  :biggrin:

ED: BWAHAHAHA! HOLY eff, King. I totally posted that right before I saw yours and was stopped by the glorious red disclaimer of a post being made. THAT is awesome.  :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on December 30, 2014, 11:53:25 AM
In all fairness.... Avatar is a million times more believable than The Dark Knight.... There's no dispute on that one. As far as the better movie goes, fine, that's debatable. But in terms of realistic probability, Avatar crushes The Dark Knight.

Also, Joe, I didn't say I disliked TDK, it was okay. I wasn't pissed that I spent $$9.50 to see it. I didn't hate it l, and I'd never say it was a shitty/bad movie, I just didn't enjoy it to the extent that the rest of the world did. I dont like Lil' Wayne, and there's a few million people that would say I was wrong.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on December 30, 2014, 11:55:04 AM
In all fairness.... Avatar is a million times more believable than The Dark Knight.... There's no dispute on that one. As far as the better movie goes, fine, that's debatable. But in terms of realistic probability, Avatar crushes The Dark Knight.

Wait...wha... Eh, I'm out!

I don't care about opinions on the movie or whether you dislike it or not but that...blew my mind. I can't wrap my head around that one. Agree to disagree.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 30, 2014, 11:55:49 AM
In all fairness.... Avatar is a million times more believable than The Dark Knight.... There's no dispute on that one. As far as the better movie goes, fine, that's debatable. But in terms of realistic probability, Avatar crushes The Dark Knight.
WTF Godammit Chino
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: orcus116 on December 30, 2014, 12:02:51 PM
In all fairness.... Avatar is a million times more believable than The Dark Knight.... There's no dispute on that one. As far as the better movie goes, fine, that's debatable. But in terms of realistic probability, Avatar crushes The Dark Knight.

Uhhhhhhhh, nope.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on December 30, 2014, 12:07:35 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on December 30, 2014, 12:26:49 PM
Avatar came out like 5 years ago. Many of us forgot about it 5 years ago, and most of us stopped caring 5 years ago. Yet, here's Chino to remind us about the movie in every post.  :tup
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dark Castle on December 30, 2014, 12:30:56 PM
In all fairness.... Avatar is a million times more believable than The Dark Knight.... There's no dispute on that one. As far as the better movie goes, fine, that's debatable. But in terms of realistic probability, Avatar crushes The Dark Knight.
I.... jesus fuck Chino, you've got to be trolling right now. Please.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on December 30, 2014, 12:33:03 PM
In all fairness.... Avatar is a million times more believable than The Dark Knight.... There's no dispute on that one. As far as the better movie goes, fine, that's debatable. But in terms of realistic probability, Avatar crushes The Dark Knight.

Also, Joe, I didn't say I disliked TDK, it was okay. I wasn't pissed that I spent $$9.50 to see it. I didn't hate it l, and I'd never say it was a shitty/bad movie, I just didn't enjoy it to the extent that the rest of the world did. I dont like Lil' Wayne, and there's a few million people that would say I was wrong.

Wasn't calling you out but the movie was so well received that it throws people off when someone is not enamored with it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on December 30, 2014, 12:41:03 PM
Eh, see King, it's really not even that at all, for me at least. I truly couldn't care less if someone hates TDK, sometimes people just don't like that type of movie, that's fine. I just don't understand how HARD sci/fi and blue aliens that are being interacted with by a program that lets us emulate their being and one man eventually 'turns into' one of them (I'm paraphrasing, I've only seen the movie once) is more believable than a billionaire fighting crime with mostly believable weaponry against a psychotic criminal whose stolen millions from the mob and is just wrecking havoc in our modern world with little to no sci/fi. That's what throwing me off, not whether he enjoyed TDK more than Avatar. I mean, I'm not mentally deficient; I knew that from the get-go.  :lol  :P

Again though, if that's what you think, Chino..that's...o...kay....*silently weeps in fetal position*
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on December 30, 2014, 01:00:02 PM
I'm just saying you'll get response like, "Really? You thought it was just ok?"

My cousin was not moved one bit by Saving Private Ryan.  I was so taken aback that even the first 1/2 didn't even stun him one bit.  War movies isn't his thing but it still to me by surprised that he wasn't moves at all.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on December 30, 2014, 01:08:41 PM
Opinions like that will always be divided. Either a movie moves you or it doesn't, either a movie is good to you or it isn't. It will always be a subjective thing what you take out of a movie. But saying that a Sci-Fi movie about blue space goats, a fictional planet in space, humans destroying the world and transferring their brains into the blue space goats is a more realistic scenario to ever happen than a rich guy deciding to spend his money on some gadgets and start fighting crime, that just comes off as really baffling to me.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on December 30, 2014, 03:53:17 PM
How on earth could I have missed Killer Joe!? Matthew McConaughey just deliveres on every movie i've seen with him lately and my god that ending!



Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on December 30, 2014, 04:23:24 PM
Wes Anderson is great.


FTFY
:lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 30, 2014, 04:43:01 PM
I decided to try and give super heroes a chance despite the fact that I thought The Avengers was one of the most overrated movies I've ever seen.  the third movie, I really wasn't feeling it. Jim Carrey was the only redeeming factor in it, and the new actor they had playing Batman sucked.

Not sure how you can love Avatar and hate The Avengers...

I loved both movies.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on December 30, 2014, 04:55:55 PM
I think 'the Avengers' is a very fun movie, worth seeing for all of the heroes being on screen together and how Joss Whedon wrote their interractions. But 'Avatar' is clearly a better movie in my eyes.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: orcus116 on December 30, 2014, 04:58:34 PM
Are the two really comparable?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on December 30, 2014, 05:13:13 PM
They're really both dumb action schlock blockbuster movies, but at least Avengers was fun and had great characters. Were there even characters in Avatar? I don't remember anything about Sam "Vacuum" Worthington.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: orcus116 on December 30, 2014, 05:14:58 PM
Nobody with more than one dimension.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on December 30, 2014, 06:44:53 PM
Y'know, I really don't dislike Avatar. I didn't find it anything special, but god damn do I hate Worthington. He's destroyed everything I've seen him in and is one of the few actors who I think the overused phrase of 'the same in every movie' applies to. That mofo can't act worth shit.  :lol Is he pretty? Kind of. Not really. He kinda look like a really good looking inbred. But he must give some REALLY good head cause I don't know how the fuck he keeps getting cast, especially as much as he is. Well...it's gone down a bit but there was a period of time where it was ridiculous.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 31, 2014, 03:03:21 AM
Apparently Chris Pratt auditioned for Avatar.

Now that would have been amazing.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on December 31, 2014, 05:22:02 AM
Imagine Avatar with a charismatic lead, that could have been really great. It's weird because in most Cameron movies, he always gets a good lead. Whether it's Arnold (who is always lovable and charismatic) or someone like Sigourney Weaver in Aliens, or DiCaprio/Winslet in Titanic. I guess even the best hitters strike a miss sometimes.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on December 31, 2014, 06:23:15 AM
Well jake is supposed to be a jar head so he works in that capacity. :hat
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on December 31, 2014, 03:13:05 PM
I think Worthington was fine in Avatar. I like him.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on December 31, 2014, 04:49:06 PM
I'm pretty sure the role of Jake was intended to be bland and one dimensional. It made his transition into a Na'vi that much more dramatic.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on December 31, 2014, 06:47:45 PM
I try to keep a pretty neutral stance on Avatar since I haven't seen it all, but I've mentioned before that the bits I have seen had some very cringe-inducing dialogue. It was on TV on my lunch break at work the other day, and I remember hearing something like:

"It's over!"
"Nothing's over while I'm still breathing!"
"I was hoping you'd say that."

 :facepalm:

Maybe part of me wants to not like it, I don't know. There are plenty of movies I do like that have some pretty stupid lines.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on December 31, 2014, 06:53:07 PM
Avatar is the only JC film that I'm not that into. Everything else in the catalogue I love and T2 may very well be my favorite film ever made.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on December 31, 2014, 06:58:13 PM
I try to keep a pretty neutral stance on Avatar since I haven't seen it all, but I've mentioned before that the bits I have seen had some very cringe-inducing dialogue. It was on TV on my lunch break at work the other day, and I remember hearing something like:

"It's over!"
"Nothing's over while I'm still breathing!"
"I was hoping you'd say that."

 :facepalm:

Maybe part of me wants to not like it, I don't know. There are plenty of movies I do like that have some pretty stupid lines.

Yes, definitely this. I do admire James Cameron as a director overall. He takes risks, tries new things, and with Avatar he really pushed the film industry forward in many ways. But IMO it kinda shows in the script that most of his focus was on the visual part of the movie. A lot of very "blunt" lines where the characters say things like they are, and it just sounds very lame.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on January 01, 2015, 01:10:36 AM
I'm pretty sure the role of Jake was intended to be bland and one dimensional. It made his transition into a Na'vi that much more dramatic.

Not really.

Honestly there would have been a lot more drama if Jake had an actual compelling character and personality to begin with. Part of the problem with Avatar is his transition into being a Na'vi, because it's so one-dimensional. They're clearly the good guys over the foolish, evil humans. It's too black and white, which reflects into Jake's personality and supposed character arc.

I'd have found it far more compelling if there had been less clearly defined morals at play, painting both sides in various shades of grey (i.e. Dawn of the Planet of the Apes). Give Jake a reason to still be a human from the moment he arrives. Give him a reason to hesitate becoming a Na'vi. Give him something worthwhile to have to choose being a Na'vi over it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on January 01, 2015, 02:35:31 AM
I'm glad you brought up Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, that movie was just amazing on so many levels. Probably the best "conflict" movie I've seen in quite some time. You can sympathize with both sides of the conflict, and there really is a slow escalation towards chaos. Really well made movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on January 01, 2015, 02:43:32 AM
I'm glad you brought up Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, that movie was just amazing on so many levels. Probably the best "conflict" movie I've seen in quite some time. You can sympathize with both sides of the conflict, and there really is a slow escalation towards chaos. Really well made movie.

Exactly. I referenced Avatar in my review of Dawn of the Planet of the Apes last year, because I really think that Dawn is what Avatar should have been like. It really subverts the cliches that run amok in Avatar and creates something truly dramatic and intelligent from a similar plot set-up.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on January 01, 2015, 05:45:19 AM
"It's over!"
"Nothing's over while I'm still breathing!"
"I was hoping you'd say that."

 :facepalm:

I give this a pass since it's sort of related to the story.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 01, 2015, 05:47:23 AM
Every piece of dialogue is related to the story.  Not sure why something like this would get a pass.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on January 01, 2015, 06:07:25 AM
Well, action confrontation dialogue can contain as sorts of 'cool' crap more or less unrelated to the story. At least this has the 'breathing' stuff. Which is why I give this a pass, even though it isn't great.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 01, 2015, 06:14:41 AM
*shrugs*
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on January 01, 2015, 12:28:49 PM
Just watched The Dark Knight Returns Animated Film. Absolutely loved it, holy shit  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on January 01, 2015, 05:16:20 PM
Just went to see the documentary Keep On Keepin' On, about jazz legend Clark Terry and his friendship/mentorship of a young blind pianist. Really awesome. Funny, sad, and full of great music and jazz history. Would highly recommend if it you can find it!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 01, 2015, 06:06:17 PM
If you think Forever was bad, wait until you see Batman & Robin. :rollin
I didn't think "Forever" was *that* bad - at least compared to any spiderman movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on January 01, 2015, 06:51:05 PM
Batman and Robin is full of comedy gold.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on January 01, 2015, 06:57:58 PM
Jackie, just "Chill".
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on January 01, 2015, 07:28:48 PM
"Ice" to see you
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on January 01, 2015, 07:32:30 PM
GET IN DA COOLAH

...am I doing it right?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on January 01, 2015, 07:54:22 PM
I'd buy it if I could find my bat credit card.  but first, I'll play with my nipples.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on January 01, 2015, 07:55:41 PM
GET IN DA COOLAH

...am I doing it right?

No, but you can redeem yourself by having the other members of the forum sing-a-long to the Snow Miser song.

I'd buy it if I could find my bat credit card.  but first, I'll play with my nipples.

Goddamn it, Joel Schumacher! :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on January 01, 2015, 07:59:17 PM
You should have been in the theater with me.  I told my cousin I was going to jail over this movie.  Joel Schumacher need to be taught a lesson. :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on January 01, 2015, 07:59:59 PM
Holey rusted metal, Batman!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Accelerando on January 01, 2015, 08:45:33 PM
What killed the dinosaurs? The Ice Age!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on January 01, 2015, 09:31:42 PM
Holey rusted metal, Batman!

I loved that!  Batman just stops in his tracks and goes "What?"  And Robin actually explains it, and it's okay.  They had to at least make a reference to the most famous Robin affectation (or whatever it's called), and this was great.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on January 01, 2015, 10:24:50 PM
Holey rusted metal, Batman!

I loved that!  Batman just stops in his tracks and goes "What?"  And Robin actually explains it, and it's okay.  They had to at least make a reference to the most famous Robin affectation (or whatever it's called), and this was great.

That was also in the previous film, Batman Forever, not Batman & Robin. I didn't like the joke myself, but I'll admit it was a reference that was understandable.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on January 01, 2015, 10:28:21 PM
I just saw A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night, which is sort of an Iranian vampire movie (though shot in the US), but the actual vampire elements are minimal. It was really beautiful (black and white, gorgeous cinematography) with an excellent soundtrack. Kind of slow, but that doesn't really bother me. Cool and artsy, but the trailer was a bit deceptive- it's not a horror movie and it's not at all as action-packed as you'd think. But I did for the most part enjoy it. Even if the plot is lacking, the visual and audio elements totally make it worth watching.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on January 01, 2015, 11:44:05 PM
Enemy with Jake Gyflaxalaxanhall

What. The. Fucking. Shit.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on January 02, 2015, 12:21:29 AM
Watched Calvary. Absolutely amazing stuff. Definitely the best 2014 movie I've seen (of which I've seen very few tbh).
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on January 02, 2015, 01:20:30 PM
Just watched Platoon for the first time. It was fine.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 02, 2015, 01:41:50 PM
Watched 'Fargo' last night for the first time since it first came out. Man....it's such a cool movie. Really enjoyed it.....it was almost like watching it for the first time.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: orcus116 on January 02, 2015, 02:55:25 PM
Somewhat of a minority opinion I've discovered but I think The Life Aquatic is hands down Wes Anderson's best movie. It may have to do with the fact that it was my first movie of his but Bill Murray absolutely nails the down on his luck, "shit happens" character, my first real introduction to very dry humor, and I just loved the whole adventure of it as well. I think it has the best blend of the slightly surreal Anderson universe with the made-up countries/animals, claymation, dollhouse effect, etc. and how depressingly bad a real journey of that type would probably be in real life. By comparison I found Royal Tenenbaums and Darjeeling Limited pretty boring despite the fact that people seem to hold those in much higher esteem and seem to scoff at Life Aquatic.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on January 02, 2015, 03:09:11 PM
Watched 'Fargo' last night for the first time since it first came out. Man....it's such a cool movie. Really enjoyed it.....it was almost like watching it for the first time.
Haven't seen it in ages too so that will be my movie of choice tonight! Thx for the tip!  :tup
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on January 02, 2015, 03:34:46 PM
Somewhat of a minority opinion I've discovered but I think The Life Aquatic is hands down Wes Anderson's best movie. It may have to do with the fact that it was my first movie of his but Bill Murray absolutely nails the down on his luck, "shit happens" character, my first real introduction to very dry humor, and I just loved the whole adventure of it as well. I think it has the best blend of the slightly surreal Anderson universe with the made-up countries/animals, claymation, dollhouse effect, etc. and how depressingly bad a real journey of that type would probably be in real life. By comparison I found Royal Tenenbaums and Darjeeling Limited pretty boring despite the fact that people seem to hold those in much higher esteem and seem to scoff at Life Aquatic.
Either Moonrise Kingdom or Fantastic Mr. Fox are my favourites of his.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 02, 2015, 04:22:48 PM
I really want to see Birdman. It sounds very interesting and Michael Keaton is a great actor
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: orcus116 on January 02, 2015, 04:24:08 PM
Same. Two friends said it's their favorite movie of the year but I can't seem to find anywhere around me that is playing it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Lucien on January 02, 2015, 10:08:06 PM
The Producers is so good.

"So the rule is, when mounting (beat) a play, keep it funny, keep it sunny, keep it gaaaaaay!"
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on January 02, 2015, 10:11:45 PM
The Producers is so good.

"So the rule is, when mounting (beat) a play, keep it funny, keep it sunny, keep it gaaaaaay!"

I'M WET!!!  I'M HYSTERICAL AND I'M WET!!!!   :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Lucien on January 02, 2015, 11:59:47 PM
The Producers is so good.

"So the rule is, when mounting (beat) a play, keep it funny, keep it sunny, keep it gaaaaaay!"

I'M WET!!!  I'M HYSTERICAL AND I'M WET!!!!   :rollin :rollin

 :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on January 03, 2015, 03:53:47 AM
Somewhat of a minority opinion I've discovered but I think The Life Aquatic is hands down Wes Anderson's best movie. It may have to do with the fact that it was my first movie of his but Bill Murray absolutely nails the down on his luck, "shit happens" character, my first real introduction to very dry humor, and I just loved the whole adventure of it as well. I think it has the best blend of the slightly surreal Anderson universe with the made-up countries/animals, claymation, dollhouse effect, etc. and how depressingly bad a real journey of that type would probably be in real life. By comparison I found Royal Tenenbaums and Darjeeling Limited pretty boring despite the fact that people seem to hold those in much higher esteem and seem to scoff at Life Aquatic.

I just saw The Grand Budapest Hotel and I just love his quirky dialogue and his storylines are so strong.  He gets big time actors for the smallest of roles so you know they love what he does.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 03, 2015, 04:50:32 AM
Yesterday, I finally caught two movies that had eluded me.

First was Moneyball.  Sports movies are hit and miss for me.  I'm a huge sports fan, but most of them seem just silly and saccharine sweet, and in a weird way, it seems like the ones based on true stories are often the worst of the lot in these regards.  But this one was fantastic.  (Interestingly, I tend to favor films about baseball, a sport I rarely have a desire to watch.)  Brad Pitt was great, and Jonah Hill was really good in it as well.  I was surprised to see Phillip Seymour Hoffman (I had no idea he was in the film), and he played a total prick.  Overall, I give it two thumbs up.  :tup :tup

Next up was Gravity.  I thought it was fantastic, and I regret not seeing it in a theater.  It must have been mind-boggling to see it in IMAX.  The only thing that I kind of didn't care for was one bad thing after another kept happening.  Any one of them could have been catastrophic, but it eventually almost got to the point of being Die Hard in Space (minus a villain, of course).  But I really enjoyed it, and it was probably my favorite performance by Sandra Bullock, who is an actress that I rarely care for.   :tup :tup
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 03, 2015, 05:29:04 AM
Sandra Bullock  > > > Julia Roberts.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 03, 2015, 05:31:47 AM
Sandra Bullock  > > > Julia Roberts.
Wow, you're just wrong about everything, aren't you?   :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on January 03, 2015, 05:46:41 AM
Got to say I am a Julia Roberts hater. She is the George Clooney of female actresses. No emotional range at all.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 03, 2015, 05:50:34 AM
Got to say I am a Julia Roberts hater. She is the George Clooney of female actresses. No emotional range at all.
You fail too, because Clooney is awesome. 

Not sure where you get no emotional range.  I've seen her portray joy, sadness, gladness, sorrow, despair, and spite, no problem.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 03, 2015, 05:56:19 AM
Sandra Bullock  > > > Julia Roberts.
Wow, you're just wrong about everything, aren't you?   :biggrin:









no
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 03, 2015, 05:56:48 AM
Julia Roberts is *IDENTICAL* in everything she does.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 03, 2015, 06:15:10 AM
Julia Roberts is *IDENTICAL* in everything she does.
???

Just not seeing it.  And I've seen most of her work.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on January 03, 2015, 06:24:01 AM
Got to say I am a Julia Roberts hater. She is the George Clooney of female actresses. No emotional range at all.
You fail too, because Clooney is awesome. 

Not sure where you get no emotional range.  I've seen her portray joy, sadness, gladness, sorrow, despair, and spite, no problem.

Clooney is awesome as a director.  As an actor, he's like John Wayne.  Iconic but wooden.  The movies he's in are very good movies but he's wooden as an actor.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on January 03, 2015, 06:33:37 AM
Julia Roberts is *IDENTICAL* in everything she does.
???

Just not seeing it.  And I've seen most of her work.

I'm with Kotowboy.  Like my joke about her being a female "George Clooney" She's as wooden as they come as an actress.


My family has this list of actors we all hate an laugh about.  My brother hates James Franco.  His wife hates Mark Ruffalo.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 03, 2015, 06:34:31 AM
Mark Ruffalo?  WTF
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on January 03, 2015, 06:59:15 AM
Yup.  I don't have the hate for him as an actor like my sis in law does.  he's just ok.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: KevShmev on January 03, 2015, 07:08:25 AM
Sandra Bullock  > > > Julia Roberts.

This.  When it comes to attractiveness and acting, Bullock wins by a lot. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on January 03, 2015, 07:17:19 AM
(https://a57.foxnews.com/global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/Entertainment/876/493/3Ret%20Julia%20Roberts.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on January 03, 2015, 07:20:45 AM
AH, TEETH!

But seriously, I've never been a fan of Julia Roberts, and even after 'Gravity' I don't really have any opinion at all of Sandra Bullock. But out of the two prefer Bullock, since 'Gravity' is literally the only movie I can remember she being in right now without going on IMDb. And I really liked 'Gravity', so..
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 03, 2015, 07:41:00 AM
Sandra Bullock  > > > Julia Roberts.

This.  When it comes to attractiveness and acting, Bullock wins by a lot.
I wasn't even taking attractiveness into it.  Probably because I find neither of them very attractive.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: KevShmev on January 03, 2015, 08:06:45 AM
Bullock has that super cute "girl next door" look, while Roberts has that "looks great from a distance, but the closer you get, the less attractive she gets" look, IMO. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on January 03, 2015, 09:13:19 AM
I never got the appeal of either one of them in the attractiveness department, so you lose me on who's cuter.   They're both pretty meh.     

But as far as acting goes, I always felt it was Bullock who was over-rated.  She's more like Costner...she's really fantastic at only playing one character, and she's that character in everything she does.   She played Annie Porter in Speed, and then it was Annie Porter becomes a cop and goes to a beauty pageant (twice), Annie Porter goes to re-hab, Annie Porter goes to space...etc...etc...

Julia Roberts isn't Oscar-worthy, but at least she can play different characters.   Erin Brockovich was NOTHING like the assistant in America's Sweethearts. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on January 03, 2015, 01:58:58 PM
I never got the appeal of either one of them in the attractiveness department, so you lose me on who's cuter.   They're both pretty meh.     

But as far as acting goes, I always felt it was Bullock who was over-rated.  She's more like Costner...she's really fantastic at only playing one character, and she's that character in everything she does.   She played Annie Porter in Speed, and then it was Annie Porter becomes a cop and goes to a beauty pageant (twice), Annie Porter goes to re-hab, Annie Porter goes to space...etc...etc...

Julia Roberts isn't Oscar-worthy, but at least she can play different characters.   Erin Brockovich was NOTHING like the assistant in America's Sweethearts.
Basically all of this.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 03, 2015, 05:45:00 PM
Roberts just comes across as really high maintenance and Bullock just seems a lot more grounded at least to me.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: lucky7 on January 03, 2015, 05:48:08 PM
I like both actresses...they have each had some hits and misses....Sandra was great in The Blindside, Julia was great in Erin B.
Mark Ruffalo is a great actor, he deserved an award for The Normal Heart...James Franco is an okay actor he was great in 127 hours.

Back to movies...Penguins of Madagascar is a great movies especially for kids pretty good for adults too.  :smiley:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on January 03, 2015, 07:43:58 PM
I'm slowly making my way through Nicolas Cage's filmography, and it's been a blast. I just rented Con Air (have only seen parts of it on TV) and Valley Girl (have never seen it)... also put a few things on hold at the library that I'm waiting for :D
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 03, 2015, 07:54:02 PM
It looks like Nic Cage might finally be making a decent movie again.. Has he paid off all his debts ?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on January 03, 2015, 08:00:15 PM
Just got back from seeing Big Eyes.    Man...Tim Burton is SUCH a great film-maker when he steps outside of his "spooky fantasy" comfort zone.     He got into such a rut doing Alice in Wonderland and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (which, should have been better than they were).   He just needed to get back to doing films.   

Amy Adams did an amazing job as Margaret Keane, and Christoph Waltz is brilliantly slimey as her snake of a husband. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 03, 2015, 08:02:11 PM
Ed Wood is still my favourite Tim Burton movie. It's just great. And yes he really needed to stop doing his trademark schlock with Depp & the missus.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on January 03, 2015, 08:09:05 PM
Ed Wood is still my favourite Tim Burton movie. It's just great. And yes he really needed to stop doing his trademark schlock with Depp & the missus.

I still need to see Ed Wood...and I really want to.  I've seen almost every other one of his films.  (Frankenweenie might be the other one I missed)    Big Fish is still my #1....but that's a big father/son thing.    I went through a similar experience of being at odds with my father for years, and then having the time to become very close and have several moments of clarity as he was slowly deteriorating from disease...so I suppose that's what makes that such a personal movie for me. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 03, 2015, 08:11:43 PM
I enjoyed Tim Burton films up until Charlie then he just started doing the same thing every time.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on January 03, 2015, 10:32:35 PM
It looks like Nic Cage might finally be making a decent movie again.. Has he paid off all his debts ?
To what are you referring?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: orcus116 on January 03, 2015, 11:02:01 PM
He bought a bunch of castles and ended up going into debt.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Accelerando on January 03, 2015, 11:24:37 PM
So we're a few days in on the new year....I'm curious to see what's in everyone's top films of the 2014! I have yet to see movies like Whiplash, The Imitation Game, Boyhood, Inherent Vice, and Birdman because I feel those movies will be included in the Best Picture Showcase that AMC Theatres holds every year. So as of right now my favorite films of 2014 are:

1. Nightcrawler
2. Interstellar
3. Guardians of the Galaxy
4. Snowpiercer
5. X-Men: Days of Future Past
6. Captain America: The Winter Soldier
7. Dawn of the Planet of the Apes
8. Big Hero 6
9. Godzilla
10. Noah
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on January 03, 2015, 11:26:51 PM
I would have to give that some thought...

It looks like Nic Cage might finally be making a decent movie again.. Has he paid off all his debts ?
To what are you referring?

I think he was asking what decent movie he's making. I heard Joe was really good, but haven't seen it yet. Other than that I'm not really up on what he's been doing lately.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: orcus116 on January 03, 2015, 11:28:39 PM
I've only seen a few movies last year although I want to see at least Birdman. Favorite to least favorite:

Whiplash
Grand Budapest
Interstellar
Guardians of the Galaxy
The Lego Movie
Snowpiercer

On a side note has anyone seen A Girl Walks Home Alone At Night? I only heard about it for the first time a few days ago and I'm intrigued if not only for the sheer bizarreness of it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on January 04, 2015, 12:09:48 AM
I just saw A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night, which is sort of an Iranian vampire movie (though shot in the US), but the actual vampire elements are minimal. It was really beautiful (black and white, gorgeous cinematography) with an excellent soundtrack. Kind of slow, but that doesn't really bother me. Cool and artsy, but the trailer was a bit deceptive- it's not a horror movie and it's not at all as action-packed as you'd think. But I did for the most part enjoy it. Even if the plot is lacking, the visual and audio elements totally make it worth watching.

 ;D
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dark Castle on January 04, 2015, 12:37:43 AM
Watched Fight Club for the first time. Insane movie
Love it
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on January 04, 2015, 02:19:02 AM
I loved it when I first saw it but the more I started watching movies the less impressive it seemed. Now I just think of it as a pretty great movie, but not quite deserving of the GOAT praise it gets.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on January 04, 2015, 03:21:25 AM
I loved it when I first saw it but the more I started watching movies the less impressive it seemed. Now I just think of it as a pretty great movie, but not quite deserving of the GOAT praise it gets.

I had a similar experience. It's still probably somewhere in my Top 30 films though.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on January 04, 2015, 03:32:45 AM
I would have to give that some thought...

It looks like Nic Cage might finally be making a decent movie again.. Has he paid off all his debts ?
To what are you referring?

I think he was asking what decent movie he's making.
This.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on January 04, 2015, 06:09:11 AM
Still on my list of movies from 2014 I want to see are Whiplash, The Imitation Game, and Birdman, so this list would probably be a bit different had I seen those.

10 - The Grand Budapest Hotel
9 - Predestination
8 - The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part 1
7 - Exodus: Gods and Kings
6 - Boyhood
5 - Nightcrawler
4 - Dawn of the Planet of the Apes
3 - Guardians of the Galaxy
2 - Gone Girl
1 - Interstellar
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 04, 2015, 06:11:01 AM
Interstellar is great but everything from the black hole onwards just loses me entirely.

I still prefer Inception, Memento & The Prestige. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 04, 2015, 06:28:41 AM
Too many good movies this year that I didn't get to see.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on January 04, 2015, 06:48:12 AM
I can't in good faith make my list for at least a month, because I haven't seen Whiplash or Birdman yet, and I have a feeling both could rank in high.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Outcrier on January 04, 2015, 07:22:44 AM
1. The Raid 2
2. Gone Girl
3. The Grand Budapest Hotel
4. Guardians of the Galaxy
5. Days of Future Past
6. Dawn of The Planet of the Apes
7. Lego Movie
8. Edge of Tomorrow
9: The Winter Soldier

Just waiting to see and rank Boyhood, Whiplash, Nightcrawler, Interstellar, Birdman and Inherent Vice.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on January 04, 2015, 01:12:39 PM
I can't in good faith make my list for at least a month, because I haven't seen Whiplash or Birdman yet, and I have a feeling both could rank in high.

Likewise. I also need to see Gone Girl. As it stands right now, MotY is probably either Nightcrawler or Dawn of the Planet of the Apes.

Interstellar was great, but Nolan really needs to stop with the "thought-provoking monologues" as his way of being smart and start letting the visual side of his work speak for itself. The biggest problem of that film, for me, was how he kept trying to spell everything out for the audience.

I can say what my three most disappointing films of the year were: 3. The Hobbit: Battle of Five Armies, 2. Frank and 1. Sabotage.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on January 04, 2015, 01:58:07 PM
I'm not sure I can see a movie topping Calvary for me from 2014 but we'll see.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 04, 2015, 04:05:06 PM
Tim Burton, Michael Keaton confirm BeetleJuice 2.

I really hope that it doesn't undo all the good work he did with Birdman - getting people talking about him again as an Academy award contender.

It'll probably be like his Robocop role - the best role in a half decent movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on January 04, 2015, 04:20:08 PM
Wrong thread ignore this
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on January 04, 2015, 04:22:48 PM
Tim Burton, Michael Keaton confirm BeetleJuice 2.

I really hope that it doesn't undo all the good work he did with Birdman - getting people talking about him again as an Academy award contender.

It'll probably be like his Robocop role - the best role in a half decent movie.

 :facepalm:

And after achieving such a GREAT film with Big Eyes, he's going to go back to the easy paycheck of a sequel of a nearly 30 year old work.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: orcus116 on January 04, 2015, 04:32:58 PM
Anyone have any idea what the track record of cash-in sequels released at least 10 years after the original is? I can't think of a single one that didn't bomb horribly off the top of my head yet studios still keep making them.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on January 04, 2015, 04:42:51 PM
Tim Burton, Michael Keaton confirm BeetleJuice 2.

I really hope that it doesn't undo all the good work he did with Birdman - getting people talking about him again as an Academy award contender.

It'll probably be like his Robocop role - the best role in a half decent movie.

 :facepalm:

And after achieving such a GREAT film with Big Eyes, he's going to go back to the easy paycheck of a sequel of a nearly 30 year old work.

Oh yeah, add that to the list of films I still need to see from last year. I'd heard nothing but praise for Big Eyes.

Who knows? Beetlejuice 2 might fall through.

On a more positive note though, what films are we all looking forward to this year?

1. Star Wars: The Force Awakens
2. High-Rise
3. Spectre
4. Crimson Peak
5. Knight of Cups
6. Inside Out
7. Avengers: Age of Ultron
8. Jurassic World
9. Queen of the Desert
10. Chappie

I'm thinking either High-Rise, Knight of Cups or Queen of the Desert will end up being my favorite of the year. But still... STAR WARS. The rest of my list is sorta random in its order, but that one had to be at the top of my list.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on January 04, 2015, 05:10:21 PM
There's a few that I'm excited for, but I think you got most of them. I'm not AS hyped for Star Wars as a lot of others are, mainly because I'm a pretty casual fan. I love the original trilogy, I loathe the prequels, and overall I'm not getting my hopes up too much just yet. This will probably be better than the prequels, but I wasn't sold on Abrams-Trek. Into Darkness was one of the dumbest movies I've seen in quite some time, and I just hope he has a better script this time.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on January 04, 2015, 05:15:30 PM
The movies I look forward to the most in 2015, in no particular order, or I suppose in release order:

 - Avengers: Age of Ultron
 - Jurassic World
 - Terminator Genisys
 - Ant-Man
 - Spectre
 - The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part 2
 - Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens
 - The Hateful Eight

Yeah, it's a pretty generic list, and I do have some more I plan on seeing at the moment, but these are just the big ones that I know of so far. I usually don't hear about those smaller oscar-worthy movies until year is pretty much coming to a close.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 04, 2015, 05:21:57 PM
Anyone have any idea what the track record of cash-in sequels released at least 10 years after the original is? I can't think of a single one that didn't bomb horribly off the top of my head yet studios still keep making them.

Anchorman 2 did 3x it's budget. As did Dumb & Dumber To.

Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on January 04, 2015, 05:38:14 PM
I normally wouldn't have heard anything about High-Rise, Queen of the Desert, or Knight of Cups, but they all happen to involve various people that I like.

High-Rise is Ben Wheatley's next film and will star Tom Hiddleston, Jeremy Irons and Luke Evans. Apparently it's based on a classic dystopic horror-thriller novel from the 70's. Queen of the Desert is the new film from one of my favorite directors, Werner Herzog, and it's apparently about a female contemporary of T.E. Lawrence. I heard about Knight of Cups through its stunning trailer on Facebook via a bunch of my friends from my Film Studies major.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on January 04, 2015, 08:01:26 PM
I heard about Knight of Cups through its stunning trailer on Facebook via a bunch of my friends from my Film Studies major.

Yeah this one is on my to-watch-in-2015 list too. I really liked both 'The Thin Red Line' and 'The Tree of Life' (which is made by the same director), so I am curious about how this new one turns out. I actually found out that Terrence Malick was directing 'Knight of Cups' while watching the trailer for it. He has such a unique filming style and ethereal visual tone to his movies that even though it was just a trailer, there was no doubt that it was a Malick film.
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Post by: Mister Gold on January 04, 2015, 09:44:25 PM
I heard about Knight of Cups through its stunning trailer on Facebook via a bunch of my friends from my Film Studies major.

Yeah this one is on my to-watch-in-2015 list too. I really liked both 'The Thin Red Line' and 'The Tree of Life' (which is made by the same director), so I am curious about how this new one turns out. I actually found out that Terrence Malick was directing 'Knight of Cups' while watching the trailer for it. He has such a unique filming style and ethereal visual tone to his movies that even though it was just a trailer, there was no doubt that it was a Malick film.

I've actually never seen an entire Malick film before. Only clips and trailers. However, what little I have seen has greatly impressed me. I'm aiming to check out The Tree of Life pretty soon.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 04, 2015, 09:58:37 PM
I thought Tree Of Life had some really amazing moments in terms of the cinematography, but by the end I just wanted to know what the fuck was going on.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on January 09, 2015, 08:55:03 AM
Just started Beverly Hills Cop 2. I'm dying at the whole Muslim smelling pork bit in the warehouse  :rollin :rollin


"There's suppose to be no right angles on this building!!"  :rollin :rollin
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 09, 2015, 09:58:33 AM
Great film.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 09, 2015, 10:06:43 AM
By coincidence that was on TV tonight. I only caught the end of it though.
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Post by: Orbert on January 09, 2015, 12:32:58 PM
First two Beverly Hills Cop movies were great.  Third was a step down, but still pretty funny.  While the second actually took the story and characters in a different direction (a little, anyway), the third felt very much like "more of the same, but hey, money" which it was.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 09, 2015, 12:34:26 PM
The end is just really flat. Axel is chasing that guy for ages and then just shoots him. I thought he would get tangled with machinery or something.
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Post by: Zantera on January 09, 2015, 01:09:12 PM
I think by the time the third movie came out, the novelty of the rough Detroit cop in the fancy Beverly Hills had worn off. According to rumors, the 4th movie will take place in Detroit, and I think that's for the better. Foley is still a great and fun character, but there's only so many times they can use the same fish out of water jokes, without it getting repetitive. The third movie also felt very formulaic, with Foley showing up, doing his own thing, the police being very "you can't do this" until he gets some proof towards the end.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Accelerando on January 09, 2015, 02:03:23 PM
So it looks like Batman V Superman is rumored to be released into two parts! The first would be Batman V Superman: Part 1, Enter The Knight, then the second part will be the previous title, Dawn Of Justice. The first part would be released October of this year.

If this is true, then this would be a huge step in the right direction. With all the characters that have been announced that would be in the movie, such as Lex, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, and Cyborg, I think a lot of us were thinking it would be rushed with one movie. And it looks like WB is not trying to copycat Marvel Studio's formula, which I respect. Even though Marvel's formula has made it the juggernaut that it is, WB seems to be trying to make the DC Universe it's own identity.

EDIT:

Sorry! Source

https://www.aintitcool.com/node/69973


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Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on January 09, 2015, 02:07:24 PM
Fantastic!  Can't wait to see DC get their act together.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 09, 2015, 02:08:26 PM
Enter Knight !

Exit Plot !

Take my Hand !

We're off to Zack Snyder Land ! :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on January 09, 2015, 02:14:15 PM
I think it's smart making the sequels only 6 months apart.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 09, 2015, 02:15:10 PM
I think it's smart making the sequels only 6 months apart.

People *might* have stopped laughing by then :')

They might be decent - but pretty much everything i've heard about this film ( and now two films ) has made it sound like an hilarious turkey.

And I was one of those who *hated* Man Of Steel.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on January 09, 2015, 02:16:14 PM
I will see Batman v Superman at the cinema because it's Batman v Superman, but I have very little faith in it, mostly due to Zach Snyder. I watched Man of Steel once, enjoyed it enough that I didn't walk out, but had 0 urge to ever re-watch it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 09, 2015, 02:18:20 PM
I will see Batman v Superman at the cinema because it's Batman v Superman, but I have very little faith in it, mostly due to Zach Snyder. I watched Man of Steel once, enjoyed it enough that I didn't walk out, but had 0 urge to ever re-watch it.

I saw MOS in the cinema and re-watched on 3D Blu Ray at my brother's house. It was worse the 2nd time if anything. The last 40 minutes are just CGI carnage.

Say what you want about Star Trek Into Darkness - but the crash scene at the end is THIRTY SECONDS LONG.

Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on January 09, 2015, 02:21:04 PM
I liked 'Man of Steel', and even though the whole DCU feels incredibly lacking in genuinity, it might still turn out enjoyable. I am looking forward to this being two movies.
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Post by: Zantera on January 09, 2015, 02:25:21 PM
I think Zach Snyder is in the danger zone of becoming a new Michael Bay. I wanna give him a little bit more credit than Bay, because at least it feels like Zach Snyder is trying, but a lot of the "deep" moments of his movies just falls flat. In interviews where he talks about Sucker Punch, it feels like he's talking about this deep and thought provoking movie that will twist your mind, when in reality it is a CGI schlock fest with hot babes. His "deep" and philosophical moments of Man of Steel also fell flat for me. An hour of "You are meant for great things, and one day the people will follow you into the sun", and the Superman/Jesus analogies were just so cheesy. That shot in the church with Jesus in frame next to Clark Kent was like something out of a freshman art-school project.

They have done some pretty great choices in terms of casting, and I'm all for Ben Affleck as Batman and Jeremy Irons as Alfred. Ultimately, there's a lot of things that can go wrong with this movie, but it really all comes down to Zach Snyder. The cast is great, and it's up to Snyder to make something out of it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 09, 2015, 02:54:55 PM
I will see Batman v Superman at the cinema because it's Batman v Superman, but I have very little faith in it, mostly due to Zach Snyder. I watched Man of Steel once, enjoyed it enough that I didn't walk out, but had 0 urge to ever re-watch it.
This is kind of where I am.  I hope it's good, but we'll see.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Accelerando on January 09, 2015, 03:37:20 PM
I enjoyed Man of Steel enough to get me curious if not excited for the DCU. Despite MOS flaws that to me is more with story than it was directing, it was still a decently made film. That soundtrack is tremendous! I think when they were in pre-production for BVS, the filmmakers flew up a flag, and wanted to make sure the first movie ever with Batman and Superman together on the big screen was made right. That's why they hired Chris Terrio of Argo and The Golden Bowl fame to re-write the script(s), and that's why they pushed the release date to 2016 instead of 2015...which now looks like we will get a Batman and Superman movie later this year.

Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Lucien on January 09, 2015, 03:41:21 PM
I will see Batman v Superman at the cinema because it's Batman v Superman, but I have very little faith in it, mostly due to Zach Snyder. I watched Man of Steel once, enjoyed it enough that I didn't walk out, but had 0 urge to ever re-watch it.

I saw MOS in the cinema and re-watched on 3D Blu Ray at my brother's house. It was worse the 2nd time if anything. The last 40 minutes are just CGI carnage.

Say what you want about Star Trek Into Darkness - but the crash scene at the end is THIRTY SECONDS LONG.

I loved Into Darkness. :dunno: But I can see why people don't like Man of Steel, though I myself didn't have that much of a problem with it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 09, 2015, 04:22:51 PM
I'm just too big a fan of the first two Richard Donner movies.
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Post by: King Postwhore on January 09, 2015, 04:56:21 PM
Jimmy, I always though 300 was a very good movie as well as the remake of DOTD.  I really dug The Watchman but Sucker Punch was a terrible Movie.  I don't mind that it's more about the action with his films.  There are plenty other directors I will watch their movies (Clint Eastwood & Martin McDonagh for example).

I really liked Man Of Steel, I'm hoping obviously that DC branches out with different directors like Marvel did.  Some directors were a surprising pick in my eye and with great results. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 09, 2015, 05:04:04 PM
Getting Joss Whedon for Avengers was a perfect marriage :marriageanalogy: :neverusethis:

Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on January 09, 2015, 05:14:48 PM
I think Joss Whedon for Avengers was great, but I think James Gunn and the Russo brothers did an even better job with Guardians and Captain America 2: Winter Soldier.

Snyder did a great movie with Dawn of the Dead imo. But that was also a movie that didn't lend itself too much to being a full on CGI fest. Basically every movie he has done since has been very CGI-heavy.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on January 09, 2015, 05:17:11 PM
No doubt about the CGI but that doesn't fair well for you on Superhero movies.

I absolutely loved the old school action mixed with the CGI of the Winter Solider.  I can play that movie over and over.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Outcrier on January 09, 2015, 05:36:32 PM
I wonder if Marvel Studios can produce something that rivals "The Dark Knight".

I do think their movies are pretty good (especially the latest ones) but, imo, TDK remains untouchable as far as superhero movies go.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on January 09, 2015, 06:28:24 PM
Didn't they already do that with Avengers, which a lot of people consider better than TDK? Hopefully Avengers 2 will be up there as well. Cap 2 or Guardians aren't far off. And while not a Marvel movie, I thought Days of Future Past was on that level.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dark Castle on January 09, 2015, 06:31:48 PM
Didn't they already do that with Avengers, which a lot of people consider better than TDK? Hopefully Avengers 2 will be up there as well. Cap 2 or Guardians aren't far off. And while not a Marvel movie, I thought Days of Future Past was on that level.
If people consider the Avengers better than TDK, I'm going to swallow cyanide.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on January 09, 2015, 06:34:43 PM
The Avengers is fun movie, nothing really special story-wise if you stop to think about it, but still fun. And I love Guardians of the Galaxy, truly. But The Dark Knight is just on another level. It's such a different type of "superhero" movie that I think it will be a long long time until anything trumps it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on January 09, 2015, 06:36:33 PM
Dark Castle, you say that as if the idea of Avengers even being in the same universe as TDK is baffling, when in reality they are the two best received superhero movies by far. There's a lot of people who don't care for the dark & brooding Nolan movies, just as there's a lot of people who don't care for the more comic book-y & funny Marvel movies. I think it boils down more to which one of the styles you prefer, because they are very different.

I love Nolan more than most people, and would probably say he is my favorite director out there, but I don't even think TDK is a top3 movie of his. He's that good. Still, I think on some days TDK is better than Avengers, on other days I prefer the latter. TDK definitely has a better villain, but Avengers has other things going for it. Just the fact that it's an ensemble movie where you have a team of 5-6 heroes on screen, and it works.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dark Castle on January 09, 2015, 06:37:49 PM
Dark Castle, you say that as if the idea of Avengers even being in the same universe as TDK is baffling, when in reality they are the two best received superhero movies by far. There's a lot of people who don't care for the dark & brooding Nolan movies, just as there's a lot of people who don't care for the more comic book-y & funny Marvel movies. I think it boils down more to which one of the styles you prefer, because they are very different.

I love Nolan more than most people, and would probably say he is my favorite director out there, but I don't even think TDK is a top3 movie of his. He's that good. Still, I think on some days TDK is better than Avengers, on other days I prefer the latter. TDK definitely has a better villain, but Avengers has other things going for it. Just the fact that it's an ensemble movie where you have a team of 5-6 heroes on screen, and it works.
You have to realize that I'm drunk, and TDK is just better. :PPPP
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 09, 2015, 06:38:42 PM
Yeah I'd say I like The Avengers better than The Dark Knight, though both are great movies.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on January 09, 2015, 06:41:19 PM
I also think TDK's popularity is mostly due to the fact that it is portrayed more realistically and isn't very comic book-y. It's the superhero movie that "people who aren't fans of superhero movies" can watch and appreciate. Avengers is more like a homage to comic books, and for those of us who grew up reading the comics, the movie is just a long nerdgasm of what we loved from the original characters.

So again, two very different movies.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on January 09, 2015, 06:50:54 PM
Also Batman has no superpowers so it's easier to not need CGI.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 09, 2015, 06:52:48 PM
I also think TDK's popularity is mostly due to the fact that it is portrayed more realistically and isn't very comic book-y. It's the superhero movie that "people who aren't fans of superhero movies" can watch and appreciate. Avengers is more like a homage to comic books, and for those of us who grew up reading the comics, the movie is just a long nerdgasm of what we loved from the original characters.

So again, two very different movies.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I haven't read any of the comics and know basically nothing about any of the characters. I just liked the movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dark Castle on January 09, 2015, 06:53:01 PM
Until a better Hellboy movie or Aquaman movie comes, Batman's got that shit nailed down.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Outcrier on January 09, 2015, 08:00:34 PM
Dark Castle, you say that as if the idea of Avengers even being in the same universe as TDK is baffling, when in reality they are the two best received superhero movies by far.

I agree with DC. Like i said, i think TDK is pretty much untouchable. No superhero movie even begins to compare mainly because i see it as a really great movie overall despite of his genre, something i can't say for any other superhero flick.

The closest one is, ironically, Batman Begins.
 
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Post by: Dark Castle on January 09, 2015, 09:29:55 PM
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Post by: rumborak on January 09, 2015, 09:49:19 PM
Finally got around to watching The Cooler. Good movie, I love William Macy.

And damn, the main actress. Soooo hot.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 09, 2015, 10:04:48 PM
I also think TDK's popularity is mostly due to the fact that it is portrayed more realistically and isn't very comic book-y. It's the superhero movie that "people who aren't fans of superhero movies" can watch and appreciate. Avengers is more like a homage to comic books, and for those of us who grew up reading the comics, the movie is just a long nerdgasm of what we loved from the original characters.

So again, two very different movies.

I'm not a fan of comic books, and hated TDK for being the same comic book silliness wrapped in the pretentiousness that it's beyond comic book silliness.

Did I mention I'm not a fan of comic books? :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on January 09, 2015, 10:57:56 PM
If he's not already, I promise you....I *guarantee* you...someday very soon, Heath Ledger's Joker will be widely considered the greatest movie villian of all time.  As in, "Darth Vader? Who's he?"   (I exaggerate slightly for humor, but the claim itself is serious.  As time goes on, this will happen.   And IMO, deservedly so.)
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Post by: bout to crash on January 09, 2015, 11:07:21 PM
Nawww.

The three latest films in my Cage-a-thon:

Joe- so good! Genuinely good! See this. Cage is perfect for the role, and Gary Poulter (a homeless guy they found on the street and picked for the part) was also absolutely perfect. Dark but not TOO dark. Funny.

Red Rock West- also quite good. I'd never even heard of this one, just saw it on the library list. He plays a dude from TX whose supposedly guaranteed job in WY falls through. A guy mistakes him for the guy he's hired to kill his wife, and Cage tries to milk this, but things of course don't go that smoothly. It's a sort of noir with a western feel- some really beautiful landscapes and stuff too (shot in MT and AZ). Also Dennis Hopper  :D

Amos & Andrew- jesus christ NO
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 10, 2015, 03:52:09 AM
If he's not already, I promise you....I *guarantee* you...someday very soon, Heath Ledger's Joker will be widely considered the greatest movie villian of all time.  As in, "Darth Vader? Who's he?"   (I exaggerate slightly for humor, but the claim itself is serious.  As time goes on, this will happen.   And IMO, deservedly so.)

Not hard since Darth Vader is basically a panto villain and about as scary as marmalade.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on January 10, 2015, 03:59:16 AM
I really don't think TDK would have gotten the praise it did had Heath Ledger not passed away. It would have done well, but it would be in the legendary category.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 10, 2015, 05:04:38 AM
I find it hard to compare TDK and Avengers.  TDK is an amazing film, and is so whether you like comics or not.  It absolutely deserves every bit of praise it has received, and all of the acting performances are on point, not just Ledger (although his Joker is unforgettable, and historic).  I rank it as one of the best films ever made.

But I have never, ever, EVER geeked out so hard in my life as when I sat in a theater opening weekend to see The Avengers.  I was a huge fan of the characters from the comics from the time that I was four years old.  That was a film that I literally waited my entire life to see, and it completely delivered.  I find it hard to believe that I will ever have another film experience like that.

As good as TDK was, it didn't have that kind of effect on me.  It's just different.

Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on January 10, 2015, 05:09:00 AM
Some movies like TDK hit your creative nerve like never before while the Avengers is such a fun ride and the action is so good you just get sucked in.


So many different ways to suck a person into a film.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 10, 2015, 05:10:12 AM
Whereas Man Of Steel sucked













:neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on January 10, 2015, 05:14:28 AM
 :lol

No Superman III & IV.  Now that sucked.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 10, 2015, 05:16:58 AM
:lol

No Superman III & IV.  Now that sucked.
Yeah, those are in a whole other league of awful than Man of Steel.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on January 10, 2015, 05:19:15 AM
Same league as George Clooney as Batman.


Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 10, 2015, 05:20:09 AM
Same league as George Clooney as Batman.
Man, I don't know.  Maybe.

Superman III & IV are fucking awful.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on January 10, 2015, 05:22:57 AM
Especially IV.  Kotowboy, if you've never seen those films, do so.  I want to see you post Instagram pictures of you throwing up watching them.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 10, 2015, 05:27:32 AM
Especially IV.  Kotowboy, if you've never seen those films, do so.  I want to see you post Instagram pictures of you throwing up watching them.

I was huge on Superman growing up - i've seen all the Reeves movies several times and the last two are definitely poor.

Who directed them ? Richard Linklater ? :D
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 10, 2015, 05:55:56 AM
III: Richard Lester

IV:  Sidney J. Furie
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on January 10, 2015, 05:57:35 AM
You guys are forgetting the best one, Supergirl!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on January 10, 2015, 05:59:17 AM
Oh no I'm not. :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 10, 2015, 06:01:55 AM
Best moment of Christopher Reeves's career: a scheduling conflict prevents him from doing a cameo in Supergirl, as was originally planned.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 10, 2015, 06:20:33 AM
III: Richard Lester

IV:  Sidney J. Furie

Yes and Lester was the one that almost ruined II.

He wanted it to be full of slapstick. Which I guess explains the entirety of III.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 10, 2015, 06:37:18 AM
The biggest thing to explain Superman III is that the Salkinds were idiots who should never have been allowed to make any films at all, Superman or otherwise.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on January 10, 2015, 07:11:25 AM
IMO it feels like Superman III and IV were inspirations for Schumacher when he made Batman Forever and Batman and Robin. "They're called comic books, not drama books"
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on January 10, 2015, 07:16:55 AM
What gets me is Schumacher makes good films. What the hell happened to those two Batman films?!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 10, 2015, 07:51:09 AM
What gets me is Schumacher makes good films. What the hell happened to those two Batman films?!
I think he has a fundamental misunderstanding of comic books.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on January 10, 2015, 07:54:07 AM
What gets me is Schumacher makes good films. What the hell happened to those two Batman films?!
I think he has a fundamental misunderstanding of comic books.

That and Warner Bros. supposedly had a huge influence on the direction of those two films. After B&R, Schumacher wanted to do a darker film to take things back in a more Burton-esque direction and introduce Harley Quinn as the villain of the film. Obviously it didn't happen and I don't know if it would have been any good, but it is something to think about.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on January 10, 2015, 08:06:03 AM
Speaking of superman movies, I actually really like 'Superman Returns'. Kevin Spacey is especially awesome.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 10, 2015, 08:21:39 AM
Speaking of superman movies, I actually really like 'Superman Returns'. Kevin Spacey is especially awesome.
It's certainly better than Superman III & IV.

I agree about Spacey, but I think the rest of the film was pretty bad.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on January 10, 2015, 09:17:49 AM
On the menu for today's viewing pleasure, two of my favorites

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Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: KevShmev on January 10, 2015, 12:17:15 PM
The Rock is definitely most awesome.

I'm still trying to get my courage up to watch Anchorman 2.  I've had it on my DVR for two months now, but I've heard so bad things about it from almost everyone I know (most of whom loved the first one), that I need to be in the right frame of mind to do it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on January 10, 2015, 02:36:01 PM
Birdman was spectacular. It should probably be the front-runner for a lot of academy awards. Keaton should probably get the best actor award, Norton makes a strong case for best supporting (though I know a lot of people rate JK Simmons higher, but I need to see Whiplash first), and the movie itself is just so well done. It really is art. The amount of effort that went into the movie is crazy. It's shot to perfection.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 10, 2015, 02:54:53 PM
Two films I still want to see are Birdman and Whiplash.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on January 10, 2015, 04:49:32 PM
I have The Immitation Game and John Wick on that list too, after those four I'll be done with my 'want to see in 2014' movie list.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 10, 2015, 07:58:37 PM
Yeah, I would like to see those, too.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on January 10, 2015, 08:28:28 PM
Just got back from a screening of Clint Eastwood's American Sniper... holy shit, that was great.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Accelerando on January 10, 2015, 08:31:52 PM
I saw Into The Woods earlier, and it was a good film. However, my biggest complaint, which is also my biggest complaint of the actual stage musical, is how the second act draaaaags. Fantastic effort from Rob Marshall though, and the cast was great. There's a musical number with Chris Pine as Prince Charming with his brother that absolutely steals the movie. Also, Emily Blunt  :heart :heart :heart :heart

Just got back from a screening of Clint Eastwood's American Sniper... holy shit, that was great.

I'm finishing up the book. I can't wait for this.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on January 10, 2015, 08:45:41 PM
Just got back from a screening of Clint Eastwood's American Sniper... holy shit, that was great.
I've only been disappointing by one film he's directed.  All other have been gold.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 11, 2015, 04:52:58 AM
Just got back from a screening of Clint Eastwood's American Sniper... holy shit, that was great.
I've only been disappointing by one film he's directed.  All other have been gold.
Which one?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Bolsters on January 11, 2015, 04:57:47 AM
Changeling actually pissed me off, I couldn't watch it all the way through.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on January 11, 2015, 05:04:58 AM
Just got back from a screening of Clint Eastwood's American Sniper... holy shit, that was great.
I've only been disappointing by one film he's directed.  All other have been gold.
Which one?

Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil, though, I have not seen Jersey Boys yet.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 11, 2015, 06:15:33 AM
Chappie.

Any thoughts ? To me it just looks like Robocop 2014 meets Short Circuit plus Avatar & District 9.

I'm not blown away by the trailer. . .
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on January 11, 2015, 07:24:31 AM
I thought it looked very odd and supremely cheesy. Then again I wasn't overly fond of Elysium and while I enjoyed District 9, didn't smile my pants as hard as most did over it (or seemed to, I didn't check their pants). I'll check it out on iTunes or Netflix down the line I'm sure, but it looks pretty weak and I'm almost certain I'm gonna see that cute yet badass motherfucker die horribly in the end of the movie and/or it will end without an answer to whether he's ACTUALLY dead or not.  :lol Last line of the trailer and I was like "That dude is DEAD".
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 11, 2015, 07:27:38 AM
::) can't not have the " is he or isn't he " ending...

Getting really bored of movies that end with a " make up your own mind ! " ending.


Try writing one !





*However I don't include Inception in that because the actual ending wasn't about whether it was real or not - it was about Cobb's acceptance.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 11, 2015, 08:36:28 AM
Just got back from a screening of Clint Eastwood's American Sniper... holy shit, that was great.
I've only been disappointing by one film he's directed.  All other have been gold.
Which one?

Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil, though, I have not seen Jersey Boys yet.
I haven't seen either one of those.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 11, 2015, 08:58:01 AM
I could really use ya'lls help one two things. 1.) Please help me understand why I chose to watch 'Enders Game' last night...and 2.) Please tell me if anyone has figured out how to get back two hours of their life they wasted on a horribly written, acted and produced movie. Thank you.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on January 11, 2015, 09:15:45 AM
I actually really liked it. I thought it was an interesting idea, and it was cool seeing Ender going through the training and getting better.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on January 11, 2015, 09:56:12 AM
I wasn't crazy over Ender's Game but I did enjoy it more than I thought I would. It's sad that it sounds like they won't be continuing the series, at least from what I last heard (which was a while back). But it was fun, and it was definitely awesome seeing the world of the aliens that they crafted, it was really well done, I thought. I enjoyed the ending scenes despite most people's opinions on it, I thought it was a nice way to END things. FWALABWAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA.

But I'd definitely catch a sequel if it ever happened.

Just finished my second viewing of The Drop, which was sadly James Gandolfini's last role, it also stars Tom Hardy. Hardy is, per norm, a fucking beast and holds such gravitas. Gandolfini, while I really enjoyed as an actor, has a bit of a minimalist role in the movie and is kind of 'just there', but for what the character was, he rocked it as usual as well. Overall it's another film that I just watched to see Gandolfini's last movie and out of boredom but ended up enjoying the hell out of it; it's a wonderful slow burner that ends up blowing the fuck up towards the latter half, if anyone is interested in it, know that much.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on January 11, 2015, 11:09:55 AM
I liked Ender's Game, but I thought it was really obvious that they'd taken a much larger story and condensed it.  The concept was fine, but it felt like the "years and years" of training was really only a few weeks.  They just didn't do a good job of showing how much time had passed, and while we got some examples of Ender's talent and his psyche, it still felt like "okay, here's the scene where we show this, now here's the scene where we show this other thing" more than a really natural unfolding of the story.  They should've gone ahead and made it an epic, rather than try to squeeze a huge story into a feature.  Sometimes that works, but it really didn't here.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on January 11, 2015, 11:14:39 AM
Yeah, that's the only part that I felt didn't really work either. It did feel a bit rushed. Then again I haven't read the books so I didn't feel it as much as those that did, but even then it was kinda clear that they were trying to take him from zero to hero (maybe not zero but, y'know) in a rushed way.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Fiery Winds on January 11, 2015, 11:32:53 AM
Ender's Game had been in development hell for years, and barely made it through this time. The VFX company ended up financing a chunk of the film just to get it finished. I was at a release screening with the producers, and everyone involved had a passion for the book, but due to a variety of constraints (financial being the most obvious), they had to narrow the scope of the film and focus only on Ender. It does a decent job at that, and I feel that the overall themes of the book came across well, but I was disappointed that it wasn't a true adaptation of the book.

I wanted more Valentine and Peter, and I wanted a time-scale closer to the books. Perhaps they could have had an introduction to Ender when he was just a kid on Earth, then jump forward a few years with the current actors at Battle School.

Still, I went in with low expectations and while not completely happy, I still enjoyed it as a cool sci-fi film that has more thought-provoking themes than your average sci-fi flick nowadays.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on January 11, 2015, 11:52:24 AM
Pretty much, in a nutshell. I hope someday they can make a sequel, but I'm not holding my breath. That'd be silly, psh, silly me, it's not gonna be made in the next few minutes!


...OR IS IT!?


...


Boring Sunday. I really wanna see John Wick. It comes out on iTunes on Tuesday and hopefully I can watch it that night.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on January 11, 2015, 01:13:40 PM
I thought Ender's Game was one of the most under-rated movies of the last decade.   John Carter would be my #1 under-rated film...but EG is right up there.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on January 11, 2015, 01:20:43 PM
Ender's Game was underrated, yes. John Carter was so bad though. It's the one I liked the least of all 27 movies from 2012 I've seen. Even below the last Twilight movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on January 11, 2015, 01:25:47 PM
I've heard lots of meh reviews...but I think you're the first one I've seen that actively disliked it.   I thought it was a fantastic movie, and I think it's a pretty big damn shame that we'll never see a sequel.   

It's kinda like Waterworld in the fact that most people thought it was at least OK to pretty good, and it's only considered a flop because it was *SO* expensive to make, that even respectible numbers weren't going to equal a profit at the end of the day.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dark Castle on January 11, 2015, 01:35:33 PM
John Carter was such a good movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on January 11, 2015, 01:51:31 PM
Yea I was pleasantly surprised by John Carter. Hold up a second time to.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on January 11, 2015, 05:39:24 PM
Just watched Guardians of the galaxy.

Incredible
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 11, 2015, 07:02:17 PM
The concept was fine

I liked the concept a lot....I really enjoy sci-fi type movies like this but...

it was really obvious that they'd taken a much larger story and condensed it.

....and....

the "years and years" of training was really only a few weeks.  They just didn't do a good job of showing how much time had passed

I didn't read the book so I had no idea that his training was supposed to have been years and years. I literally believed that was about a three week period. They did a pretty bad job at showing his progression to where I'd believe that was a couple years or whatever. It was presented as a month.

Visually it was a cool movie but I thought the acting was pretty sub par as well....even from Ford.


John Carter was such a good movie.

This. I really hope the sequal is greenlit.


It's kinda like Waterworld

I liked WaterWorld.....and The Postman. I thought they were pretty good takes on a futuristic...post apocolypitc world.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Fiery Winds on January 11, 2015, 07:21:34 PM

I didn't read the book so I had no idea that his training was supposed to have been years and years. I literally believed that was about a three week period. They did a pretty bad job at showing his progression to where I'd believe that was a couple years or whatever. It was presented as a month.

In the movie, they presented it as being only a few months. In the book, Ender arrived at Battle School at age 6 and didn't complete his final "test" until age 13. From a production standpoint, getting that many child actors for several age ranges simply wasn't practical (one reason why the book was considered un-filmable). It's a understandable change, but it does undermine just how much was being asked of these children.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 11, 2015, 07:35:04 PM

I didn't read the book so I had no idea that his training was supposed to have been years and years. I literally believed that was about a three week period. They did a pretty bad job at showing his progression to where I'd believe that was a couple years or whatever. It was presented as a month.

In the movie, they presented it as being only a few months. In the book, Ender arrived at Battle School at age 6 and didn't complete his final "test" until age 13. From a production standpoint, getting that many child actors for several age ranges simply wasn't practical (one reason why the book was considered un-filmable). It's a understandable change, but it does undermine just how much was being asked of these children.

That's a bummer then. I think your idea of maybe introducing him as a small child....a real 6 year old...and then FF to Battle School where he was much older might have been a different....better way to handle it. The time span was very unlcear then and obviously wasn't handled well enough to get the point across of years passing.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dimitrius on January 12, 2015, 07:31:56 AM
Birdman was excellent! Deserves all the praise it's been getting!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on January 12, 2015, 11:03:28 AM
the "years and years" of training was really only a few weeks.  They just didn't do a good job of showing how much time had passed

I didn't read the book so I had no idea that his training was supposed to have been years and years. I literally believed that was about a three week period. They did a pretty bad job at showing his progression to where I'd believe that was a couple years or whatever. It was presented as a month.

Just to clarify, I haven't read the books either, and got the impression from the movie that it had only been weeks, maybe a few months, but suddenly we were at the big climactic battle and it didn't make any effin sense that these kids were trained for maybe a few months to fight the battle which will determine the fate of an entire species.  I figured it had to have been years, even if these kids were super smart.  The movie wasn't explicit with how much time had passed, and if the intention was to present it as only a few months, then they succeeded.  But that didn't make sense to me, so I just assumed they'd done a really bad job of showing the passage of time and it had really been much longer.  I think Harrison Ford made some reference to how they had a pretty steep timeline and had to get them ready very quickly; maybe that was supposed to explain why they'd only trained for a short while.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Fiery Winds on January 12, 2015, 01:26:11 PM
The movie intended to convey a much shorter time-scale than the book. They condensed 6 years into about 1 year from start to finish. Shortly after Ender arrives at Battle School, we see a screen behind Graff counting down to their imminent destruction, and all the major plot points are squeezed into this new timeline.

The only reason they did this was to avoid having to cast multiple actors for each character at different ages. An understandable reason, but it still hurts the film.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on January 12, 2015, 02:46:19 PM
It would have been cool if they had done it Boyhood-style. Filming over a 7 year time period. I would like to see that applied on a "mainstream" sci-fi or action some time. That would've been cool.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on January 12, 2015, 03:26:55 PM
Fury was cool, not as gritty as I heard but I guess I thought more gritty as in gore. Love the last shot panning out above the tank seeing all the dead bodies. I like that they focused only on armoured warfar and how intense and claustrophobic it is as crew in a tank, I think they did that part well.

Side note, it's pretty fun reading wiki on how inaccurate the tank battles are especially with the Tiger I tank.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Accelerando on January 13, 2015, 12:05:24 AM
I saw The Imitation Game and Big Eyes the past few days.

Benedict Cumberbatch is a fantastic actor, and I think I underestimate the range he has based on the roles that he has taken in the past, all which he has done phenomenally. But his performance in The Imitation Game is his very best. The entire movie is great, and kept me on the edge of my seat the entire movie.

Big Eyes is a breathe of fresh air for Tim Burton. Definitely his best movie since Sweeney Todd. It was well acted by both Amy Adams, and of course, Christoph Waltz who I can just watch for days on end. Brilliant actor. The film was very thought provoking as well. The palette of colors made it a very good looking movie.


Next up on list of movies are Birdman, Selma, Boyhood, Unbroken, and whenever I can feast my eyes on American Sniper
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: TioJorge on January 13, 2015, 12:10:22 AM
John Wick was immensely badass and just a big pile of testosterone-infused fun killing. Not since the first Matrix has Reeves looked this badass. Really fun stuff and even though I had already heard good things, I was still impressed and enjoyed it more than I thought. Also darkly funny at times, which I didn't expect at all.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on January 13, 2015, 03:38:18 PM
The Babadook was pretty good although not as scary as i've heard. The stress the mother had was more tough to see than the monster itself but I guess that what people thought were original, to not have the monster in focus.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on January 13, 2015, 03:48:19 PM
The Babadook was pretty good although not as scary as i've heard. The stress the mother had was more tough to see than the monster itself but I guess that what people thought were original, to not have the monster in focus.

Babadook?

Never heard of it.
*googles it*
Never seeing it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on January 13, 2015, 04:43:04 PM
The Babadook was easily one of the best horror movies I've seen in quite some time. Thank god that it didn't rely on cheap jumpscares like most mainstream horror movies. Horror movies today, at least the mainstream american ones are 95% garbage.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on January 13, 2015, 05:14:56 PM
The Babadook was easily one of the best horror movies I've seen in quite some time.

Definetely this.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Jaffa on January 13, 2015, 10:57:38 PM
Big Eyes is a breathe of fresh air for Tim Burton. Definitely his best movie since Sweeney Todd. It was well acted by both Amy Adams, and of course, Christoph Waltz who I can just watch for days on end. Brilliant actor. The film was very thought provoking as well. The palette of colors made it a very good looking movie.

I'm beginning to feel like I'm the only human being who did not like Christoph Waltz in Big Eyes. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on January 14, 2015, 07:14:52 AM
Big Eyes is a breathe of fresh air for Tim Burton. Definitely his best movie since Sweeney Todd. It was well acted by both Amy Adams, and of course, Christoph Waltz who I can just watch for days on end. Brilliant actor. The film was very thought provoking as well. The palette of colors made it a very good looking movie.

I'm beginning to feel like I'm the only human being who did not like Christoph Waltz in Big Eyes.

He was just so brilliantly slimey.     He succeeded in making me despise his character...but I believe that was the intent, yes?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Jaffa on January 14, 2015, 07:58:42 PM
I suppose.  But that didn't really sit well with me, seeing as his character was apparently supposed to be extremely charming.  Not once did he ever strike me as being an even remotely likable human being.  When his character was first introduced, I honestly thought some other guy was going to come along and punch him in the face or something, and then that guy would be the one Margaret fell in love with.  The fact that she was taken in by his act felt utterly ridiculous to me.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on January 14, 2015, 09:02:50 PM
I suppose.  But that didn't really sit well with me, seeing as his character was apparently supposed to be extremely charming.  Not once did he ever strike me as being an even remotely likable human being.  When his character was first introduced, I honestly thought some other guy was going to come along and punch him in the face or something, and then that guy would be the one Margaret fell in love with.  The fact that she was taken in by his act felt utterly ridiculous to me.

To be fair, you've never been a single mother in the 60's.   A lot of women made A LOT of unfair compromises just to survive.   It is a product of its time. 

It's not that she's stupid...she is (at that time) probably very naive...and the times were not then when they are now.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Jaffa on January 14, 2015, 10:39:50 PM
Sure, but he didn't just charm her, he charmed the world.  That was his reputation.  He was 'very talented at being charming,' and 'a genius at salesmanship and promotion.'  A genius at salesmanship?  Really?  Because I wouldn't buy toothpaste from that guy.  Sure, the toothpaste probably works, since he's got very nice teeth, but if he showed them to me with that ridiculous smile, I would think he was trying to friggin' drug me.

For the record, I actually thought Big Fish was a wonderful movie overall.  I just didn't like the way they handled Walter Keane's character.  I think a great movie could have been elevated to a masterpiece if they had written Walter as a legitimately charming guy who only showed his true colors in moments of desperation.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on January 14, 2015, 10:57:27 PM
Sure, but he didn't just charm her, he charmed the world.  That was his reputation.  He was 'very talented at being charming,' and 'a genius at salesmanship and promotion.'  A genius at salesmanship?  Really?  Because I wouldn't buy toothpaste from that guy.  Sure, the toothpaste probably works, since he's got very nice teeth, but if he showed them to me with that ridiculous smile, I would think he was trying to friggin' drug me.

For the record, I actually thought Big Fish was a wonderful movie overall.  I just didn't like the way they handled Walter Keane's character.  I think a great movie could have been elevated to a masterpiece if they had written Walter as a legitimately charming guy who only showed his true colors in moments of desperation.

Big Eyes and Big Fish are two different movies.  ;)

Big Fish is the greatest movie ever made by anyone...EVER.    Big Eyes is simply the best movie Tim Burton has made *since* Big Fish.  See the difference there?

 :rollin
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Jaffa on January 14, 2015, 11:08:45 PM
:lolpalm:

I really am talking about Big Eyes, though.  Just got my wires crossed there for a sec.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on January 14, 2015, 11:26:13 PM
Still haven't seen Big Fish and i'm not sure why either. Have to change that.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 14, 2015, 11:59:35 PM
Ed Wood is best Tim Burton.  :millahhhh
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Outcrier on January 15, 2015, 12:02:14 AM
Ed Wood is best Tim Burton.  :millahhhh

I've been agreeing with you quite often lately.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 15, 2015, 12:06:51 AM
Ed Wood is best Tim Burton.  :millahhhh

I've been agreeing with you quite often lately.

 :millahhhh
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 15, 2015, 12:07:14 AM
Big Fish is my favorite from Tim Burton.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 15, 2015, 12:09:01 AM
I need to see it. It was on TV in the background at the studio once when I was working and it seemed decent.

I hope he starts making decent films again and gets out of that rut he's been in for ages.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: masterthes on January 15, 2015, 08:21:42 AM
Incidentally, Big Eyes got shut out big time by the Academy
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 15, 2015, 08:29:48 AM
I just read over the nominations, and while I haven't seen very many of the eligible movies this year, just going from what I have seen and read, the biggest surprise snubs are that Jake Gylenhall didn't get a Best Actor nod for Nightcrawler, and that The LEGO Movie didn't get nominated for Best Animated Movie (although I suppose it's possible that the live action sections disqualified it - which would be a terrible reason).
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 15, 2015, 08:34:00 AM
I just read over the nominations, and while I haven't seen very many of the eligible movies this year, just going from what I have seen and read, the biggest surprise snubs are that Jake Gylenhall didn't get a Best Actor nod for Nightcrawler, and that The LEGO Movie didn't get nominated for Best Animated Movie (although I suppose it's possible that the live action sections disqualified it - which would be a terrible reason).

dafuq?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on January 15, 2015, 08:55:10 AM
Everything is possible Blob.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 15, 2015, 08:56:07 AM
Everything is possible Blob.

This planet makes me sad. I think I'm gonna move back to Vulcan.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on January 15, 2015, 09:05:05 AM
For Pon Farr I bet.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 15, 2015, 09:08:51 AM
For Pon Farr I bet.

When it comes down to sex or death for the females, I think I might just weigh in as the marginally better option.

Speaking of which, Star Trek IV was on TV last night, and I just had to watch it. I still love that movie. So much fun.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on January 15, 2015, 09:11:20 AM
Every time I see a Star Trek film on TV I stop.  Even the wife like watching them. I'm lucky in that regard.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Nekov on January 15, 2015, 09:54:03 AM
I just read over the nominations, and while I haven't seen very many of the eligible movies this year, just going from what I have seen and read, the biggest surprise snubs are that Jake Gylenhall didn't get a Best Actor nod for Nightcrawler, and that The LEGO Movie didn't get nominated for Best Animated Movie (although I suppose it's possible that the live action sections disqualified it - which would be a terrible reason).

Yeah, I can't believe they left JG and The Lego Movie out of the nominations, the academy is doing worse every single year
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on January 15, 2015, 02:22:59 PM
I liked the nominations overall, although I defientely feel like Gyllenhaal was left out. I would have liked to see more love for Gone Girl, maybe a director nomination or something at least.

I'll not really be able to fully know whether I like the nominations or not until I get to see at least The Immitation Game, Birdman, and Whiplash.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on January 15, 2015, 04:08:23 PM
John Wick was great
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Outcrier on January 15, 2015, 04:13:27 PM
Coudn't believe Lego wasn't even nominated :'(
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on January 15, 2015, 06:09:57 PM
John Wick was great

Yes! Just finished watching it. Really cool movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: adace on January 16, 2015, 03:19:57 AM
Just saw Exodus. Didn't expect the story to be that different from the original but I really enjoyed it nonetheless. One of Christian Bale's best roles imo.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 16, 2015, 11:55:26 PM
Just got back from seeing 'American Sniper'. Cooper was fantastic in it and man can Eastwood make a film. Some brutal things in there...not only visually but the movie does a good job in portraying what these guys go through mentally as well. I could see them giving Cooper a few awards for his acting....he did great. Movie was visually stunning as well.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on January 18, 2015, 10:00:10 AM
So I went to two movie parties yesterday. The first one was Superman-themed. We watched Superman and the Mole Men, a hilarious 1950's gem, followed by one of the old cartoons from 1941. Then we watched the Superman director's cut, followed by the Richard Donner cut of Superman II. Awesomeness. Haven't seen either of those since I was a kid, and my understanding is that cut of the latter one is very different from what folks saw back in 1980 anyway.

Then I went to a birthday movie/snuggle party, and we watched Zoolander(ridiculous, as I always thought it would be) and Hanna- THAT was cool. Had never even heard of it.

edit: Oh, and then I came home and watched Rumble Fish, which was also cool (visually very pretty, great music...). And I've never seen Mickey Rourke look that attractive.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on January 18, 2015, 10:47:08 AM
Mickey Rourke used to be considered hot and dreamy.  This is my understanding, anyway.  Somewhere along the way, he turned into a perpetual grimy dirtbag, both off screen and on.  All of his recent roles seem to be the same; he's the grimy dirtbag.  But anyway, yeah, he used to be hot.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on January 18, 2015, 10:57:37 AM
Mickey Rourke used to be considered hot and dreamy.  This is my understanding, anyway.  Somewhere along the way, he turned into a perpetual grimy dirtbag, both off screen and on.  All of his recent roles seem to be the same; he's the grimy dirtbag.  But anyway, yeah, he used to be hot.
He had a series of botched facial reconstruction surgeries after taking some boxing damage.

(https://puu.sh/eH7RB/c9ac4da361.jpg)

(https://puu.sh/eH8c5/ff55585df0.jpg)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on January 18, 2015, 11:41:05 AM
I didn't realize that.  I wondered what happened to the guy, and figured he just didn't age well, and also let himself go to shit.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on January 18, 2015, 11:53:33 AM
Bob,  he was an amateur boxer before an actor when back to boxing but still did movies during his boxing career that I don't remember seeing.  Then had a second life in acting with The Wrestler.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 18, 2015, 02:22:38 PM
We saw Blackhat yesterday. Good stuff. Also, my wife is in IT security, and she said that most of the hacking stuff was fairly legit.  I recommend it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on January 18, 2015, 02:28:05 PM
I have, apart from the above post, only heard negative things about Blackhat. Or Asshat, as my favorite reviewer called it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 18, 2015, 02:33:13 PM
I haven't read any reviews of it. We saw it because of the crossover with my wife's work. But it was very entertaining. And hey, Michael Mann is a fantastic director.

Don't get me wrong, it won't win any awards, but it was good.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on January 18, 2015, 02:40:32 PM
I heard he handled the shoot-out scenes and the city night life scenes very well. But most everything else I've heard is that it makes little sense, it's cliché, and that it has a mostly very slow and dragging pacing.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 18, 2015, 04:26:09 PM
I didn't have a problem with the pacing, and everything made sense to me.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on January 18, 2015, 04:41:32 PM
Bob,  he was an amateur boxer before an actor when back to boxing but still did movies during his boxing career that I don't remember seeing.  Then had a second life in acting with The Wrestler.

Oh, interesting. I didn't realize that either. I think the first thing I actually saw him in was Once Upon a Time in Mexico, with his stupid little dog  :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on January 19, 2015, 12:11:02 AM
Speaking of Blackhat, apparently the composer Harry Gregson-Williams was not happy with how his music was handled by Michal Mann. Here's an open letter he wrote on facebook:

(https://d1oi7t5trwfj5d.cloudfront.net/0b/1b/438f66b94de59229eca6210678a2/blackhat-composer.jpg)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on January 19, 2015, 05:25:37 AM
That really sucks, I can only imagine how disappointed one must be after that.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on January 19, 2015, 06:58:57 AM
It's always fresh to see an artists that still has integrity about what they do for a living. He was credited and got paid but in the end he cares more about his craft.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 19, 2015, 07:28:12 AM
Yeah, but it's weird that he would have gotten the only credit.  Whoever's music really was used should have been credited as well.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on January 19, 2015, 07:35:15 AM
Had a look on imdb and there's actually 3 persons getting credited. Harry Gregson-Williams, Atticus Ross and Leopold Ross. Have no idea if those two were responsible for the changes but they're credited for something.




Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 19, 2015, 08:36:12 AM
If all 3 are credited, then I'm not sure what he's bitching about.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on January 19, 2015, 09:05:22 AM
You call that bitching? I would call that "politely slamming someone lightly" or something along those lines.  :lol

Anyway he sent 90mins of score and almost didn't recognize anything of it! Any artist that cares about their work would be confused when you hear something completly diffrent. I don't think the problem was that he was credited, that was just him saying to his fans that even though his name is there he didn't feel like his work/contribution/composition got used correctly and felt the need to express that.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 19, 2015, 09:57:56 AM
Yeah, but if the other people are also credited, then I'm not sure why the need to alert his fans to any such thing.  He did a lot of music, and some of it was used, and some other people's music was also used.  There doesn't seem to be an issue for the general public, only for him.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on January 19, 2015, 10:48:21 AM
Whiplash... Believe the hype! :metal J.K. Simmons deserve every award ever for his performance. He was one of the most intimidating movie characters I've seen in recent memory.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on January 19, 2015, 11:24:35 AM
His name was first, making him the primary composer.  He just wants to set the record straight that he was not the primary composer, and most of what you hear was not stuff that he wrote.  He also makes it clear that not everyone cares about that, but for those who do, he wants them to know, that's all.  I thought it was very well written.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on January 19, 2015, 06:17:35 PM
Yeah, I think that was well-written and a reasonable statement for an artist to make.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 20, 2015, 07:16:30 AM
Not to beat a dead horse, but his very first sentence says that the score is credited to him but has few of his pieces. He doesn't mention anyone else being credited.  Like his whole piece is trying to clear up a misconception that all of that music is his, since he is the only one credited.

I'm saying that if he ISN'T the only one credited, I'm not sure why that long of an explanation is necessary.  That's all.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: orcus116 on January 20, 2015, 07:05:31 PM
Well he is first billing on the poster but is along side Atticus Ross. I think he's just trying to let his fans know that if they listen to the score and don't like it it's not really much of his work.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Jarlaxle on January 20, 2015, 09:34:21 PM
Just finished watching The Imitation Game. Wow. Not at all what I was expecting, but I am pleasantly surprised, such a good movie, and very emotional.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on January 21, 2015, 05:31:27 AM
I just got into another Ingmar Bergman craze after deciding to re-watch Cries and Whispers this past weekend. I rented The Seventh Seal last night, so I can show it to my friend and then this morning I rented three of his other films that I've never seen before (Wild Strawberries, The Virgin Spring and The Silence). I'll probably try to watch Hour of the Wolf again after that, since I never got around to finishing it.

I'm holding off on checking out his last film, Fanny and Alexander, since I'm supposed to watch the theatrical version in class this semester. I figure that I'd only be ruining it for myself if I went ahead and watched the full mini-series in advance and that if I were to end up not enjoying the theatrical version in advance, I'd be tempted to skip class. But that said, I've seen a few clips on YouTube and it looks terrific.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on January 21, 2015, 10:52:32 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/VRWXDIQ.jpg)


I thought about posting this in the Funny Stuff thread, but I never know if things like this are funny or just kinda neato.  But it's about a movie, so it can go here.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 21, 2015, 12:03:27 PM
It's funny.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Lucien on January 21, 2015, 12:11:06 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/VRWXDIQ.jpg)


I thought about posting this in the Funny Stuff thread, but I never know if things like this are funny or just kinda neato.  But it's about a movie, so it can go here.

That's a classic.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 21, 2015, 01:49:41 PM
It's funny.
(https://static.spiceworks.com/shared/post/0003/4834/wait-what-meme.jpg)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: rumborak on January 22, 2015, 05:50:35 PM
You know, this scene is now 17 years old, and the sad part is, today it would be done in CGI and would look like shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRSjKfvm368
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on January 22, 2015, 05:58:21 PM
Practical always beats out GCI imo
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on January 22, 2015, 06:17:53 PM
True dat.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 22, 2015, 07:14:47 PM
I always thought a funny version of that scene would be if the villain drank from the wrong grail -

- and it cuts to him in a bed with a hot water bottle - and a thermometer in his mouth.

And the Knight says : " He chose.......poorly "


 :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 22, 2015, 07:35:43 PM
Practical always beats out GCI imo

No it doesn't (both have their strengths and weaknesses), but that shot does look absolutely amazing. I've seen what went into those shots, and there's no way they'd put that much effort into a practical shot these days, sadly.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 22, 2015, 07:46:46 PM
it looks like makeup- stop motion and possibly miniatures with forced perspective.

Some of the worst CGI in a film has to be in The Scorpion King where The Rock looks like a video game.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 22, 2015, 08:01:57 PM
it looks like makeup- stop motion and possibly miniatures with forced perspective.

Some of the worst CGI in a film has to be in The Scorpion King where The Rock looks like a video game.

I cringed when I first saw that. I saw a video on Youtube recently showing the worst CG in major films, and I believe that was #1. Doing that in CG was so stupid, especially given how little the Rock was actually in the rest of the film. That's one of those shots that gives CG a bad name, because it was not the right tool for the job, it was just the easiest.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on January 22, 2015, 08:48:11 PM
Practical always beats out GCI imo

No it doesn't (both have their strengths and weaknesses), but that shot does look absolutely amazing. I've seen what went into those shots, and there's no way they'd put that much effort into a practical shot these days, sadly.

The Thing Prequel was supposed to use mostly practical effects with little touches of CGI until the studio came in and forced them to use ALL CGI. They had to rotoscope CGI on all their practical shots. They put a substantial amount of work and effort into that film, but unfortunately thanks to the studio, it looks like garbage.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on January 23, 2015, 01:10:15 PM
The Scorpion King is hilarious for CGI. :lol Also, saying practical always > CGI is a little close-minded. There's lots of CGI that is so well done you won't give it a second thought.

Also, Birdman was as amazing as expected. :metal
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on January 23, 2015, 02:35:55 PM
I still don't understand how the CGI got worse on The Mummy Returns. They had a bigger budget and the first movie looks 100 times better. Even when I saw it in theaters I was so disappointed when they CG'd Imohtep's entire head instead of what they did in the first one when he wasn't fully regenerated. It looked sooooo bad.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on January 23, 2015, 03:43:02 PM
Just saw The Imitation Game. Oh my god, that was a powerful movie.

I'm also really stupid. I didn't make the connection between 'Alan Turing' and the 'Turing Test' until about halfway through the movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: orcus116 on January 23, 2015, 05:12:36 PM
it looks like makeup- stop motion and possibly miniatures with forced perspective.

Some of the worst CGI in a film has to be in The Scorpion King where The Rock looks like a video game.

I cringed when I first saw that. I saw a video on Youtube recently showing the worst CG in major films, and I believe that was #1. Doing that in CG was so stupid, especially given how little the Rock was actually in the rest of the film. That's one of those shots that gives CG a bad name, because it was not the right tool for the job, it was just the easiest.

Was the plane crash scene from Transporter 2 on that list because my god that was a horrendous CGI job.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on January 23, 2015, 05:40:49 PM
I just watched Blue Ruin, and it was fantastic. I would go as far as saying that it's definitely in my top10 movies of 2014. A very indie/low budget release, but it didn't really show. Unknown actors, but the cinematography was beautiful, and the movie looked better than a lot of higher budget movies.

Without giving too much away, it is essentially a revenge movie. But the twist/turn on the familiar concept is that the main character is basically an average Joe. He wants revenge, but he doesn't really have the knowledge or skill to pull things off perfectly, and so it felt like a more realistic approach to it. Instead of let's say a Liam Neeson movie where the main guy is an ex CIA/FBI agent who knows martial arts and weapons, and the climax is the protagonist clearing out a whole building of 50 henchmen, this was much more realistic in its approach.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: orcus116 on January 23, 2015, 05:46:50 PM
I agree with that part which made it enjoyable for most of the movie but I think it fell kind of flat at the end, like there wasn't much of a payoff. The way the movie is set up you're pretty much playing an observer without ever getting invested into what was happening.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on January 24, 2015, 08:09:23 AM
Man I really want to see Whiplash. It looks amazing.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on January 24, 2015, 10:21:31 AM
Man I really want to see Whiplash. It looks amazing.

As do I.

BTW, I recently got to watch this hilarious action-comedy film from Japan called Why Don't You Play in Hell. I actually laughed so hard that I fell out of my chair and onto the theater floor several times.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on January 24, 2015, 04:57:46 PM
Re-watched Cloud Atlas and it still holds up fantastically IMO. Up there among my top20 favorite movies.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on January 24, 2015, 05:26:31 PM
John Wick was bad-ass! Loved all the small cameos, felt very Sin City:ish sometimes.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Accelerando on January 24, 2015, 05:29:59 PM
Six films down, two more to go to see all eight films nominated for Best Picture. Still need to see Whiplash and Boyhood. So far my favorites are:

1. American Sniper
2. Selma
3. The Imitation Game
4. Birdman
5. The Grand Budapest Hotel
6. The Theory of Everything
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on January 24, 2015, 05:43:44 PM
Whiplash is the only one I could see beat Birdman, but I'm not too sure. Birdman was a "one of a kind" movie. Sadly I think Boyhood will win, because the fact that it took 12 years to make is more impressive to a lot of people than a genuinely good movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on January 25, 2015, 03:01:08 AM
Out of the ones nominated for best picture I've seen Boyhood, The Imitation Game, and The Grand Budapest Hotel. I started watching American Sniper, but I wasn't feeling it, so I quit. I need to see Birdman, but I don't think I'll bother with the rest.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on January 25, 2015, 01:39:19 PM
Re-watched Cloud Atlas and it still holds up fantastically IMO. Up there among my top20 favorite movies.

You inspired me to watch it, and after just finishing my first watch, I found it fascinating beyond words.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 25, 2015, 01:55:15 PM
I've seen Cloud Atlas nearly a dozen times, and it never fails to amaze me. Definitely my favorite movie of all time.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 25, 2015, 01:58:31 PM
Haven't seen it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dimitrius on January 25, 2015, 03:15:55 PM
Cloud Atlas is amazing!

Also, I found American Sniper to be bland.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on January 25, 2015, 03:20:48 PM
Its definitely something that I'm going to have to watch a couple times to really appreciate all of its intricacies. But just from the first viewing alone, I'm blown away.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on January 25, 2015, 03:28:00 PM
Yep Cloud Atlas was really cool, will have to re-watch it soon.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: lordxizor on January 25, 2015, 03:46:26 PM
Saw Snowpiercer the other day. I didn't like it as much as I thought I would based on what I've heard. It was just OK.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 25, 2015, 04:22:51 PM
My problem with Snowpiercer was that is it was trying really hard to be allegorical, but that didn't really always translate into coherent plotlines; some of the things they did just didn't make sense and ended up hurting my impression of the film.

Still, overall I guess I liked it, the movie looked really good in terms of the cinematography, plus I love trains and post-apocalyptic films, so yeah. :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: orcus116 on January 25, 2015, 05:11:47 PM
The transition from a gloomy post-apocalyptic movie into a Kill Bill 1 style movie halfway through kind of made the movie fall a little flat.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on January 25, 2015, 06:01:39 PM
I haven't seen Snowpiercer yet and I'm not sure I ever will. Just by seeing the trailer and reading a short synopsis I kinda feel like I have seen the movie. Or that I know roughly how events will play out. A lot of the fans of the movie have said that the premise is indeed dumb, and the result is surprisingly good considering, but I don't know. I guess if I'm ever really bored and its on TV.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on January 25, 2015, 06:06:48 PM
Huh. I actually really enjoyed Snowpiercer myself. But it's all the same, I guess.

On another note, I just watched Ingmar Bergman's Wild Strawberries and Orson Welles' Touch of Evil for the first time today. I was quite impressed with both films. I'm not a big fan at all of Citizen Kane, so I've always disagreed with the many film critics/instructors I've encountered who claim it to be the greatest film of all time. Touch of Evil, on the other hand, was very impressive on every level. It's even more technically impressive than Kane, while also being truly entertaining and thought-provoking.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on January 25, 2015, 06:12:06 PM
I had way higher expectations for snow piercer, but it just didn't deliver.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: KevShmev on January 25, 2015, 06:14:43 PM
Somehow I had never seen The Talented Mr. Ripley, but I caught it recently by chance, and was surprised by how much I liked it, despite the presence of Gwyneth Paltrow, who generally annoys me.  But Matt Damon was great, and Jude Law and Philip Seymour Hoffman were fantastic as well.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 25, 2015, 08:00:07 PM
I haven't seen Snowpiercer yet and I'm not sure I ever will. Just by seeing the trailer and reading a short synopsis I kinda feel like I have seen the movie. Or that I know roughly how events will play out. A lot of the fans of the movie have said that the premise is indeed dumb, and the result is surprisingly good considering, but I don't know. I guess if I'm ever really bored and its on TV.

See the funny thing for me is that the premise I have no problem with, and actually really loved, but I think the delivery of it left a lot to be desired. Some of the moments that were supposed to be really emotional or affecting fell flat for me because it just made no sense in the context of the story.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on January 25, 2015, 09:52:21 PM
Snowpiercer is my 6th favorite movie from 2013. I thought it was really cool.

And Cloud Atlas is my 3rd favorite from 2012. I've only seen it once, but I thought it was really impressive.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on January 25, 2015, 11:09:58 PM
I can at least say Cloud Atlas was above average. But as far as big ambitious movies that are supposed to have this huge message/theme to it go, this one felt really contrived and pointless. Also, the use of the same actors really worked against the movie. Especially when makeup was used to change race. It looked so unbelievably bad it just destroyed the immersion in what was already probably the most mediocre story of the movie.

All this being said, it's an entertaining movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on January 27, 2015, 12:24:02 AM
Holy crap. I was watching "The Quick and the Dead" at my friend's house, and I noticed this nod to "Back to the Future" in the soundtrack. Has to be intential; both films were scored by Silvestri.

The Quick and the Dead music (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Plu_dOct9zY#t=61) [timestamped]
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on January 27, 2015, 08:45:16 AM
First trailer for the new Fantastic Four movie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-BVs-KCSiA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-BVs-KCSiA)

It actually looks okay. Admittably, it doesn't look bad. But it doesn't seem to be the sliced bread of modern cinema.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 27, 2015, 09:36:56 AM
We'll see
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on January 27, 2015, 11:11:07 AM
First trailer for the new Fantastic Four movie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-BVs-KCSiA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-BVs-KCSiA)

It actually looks okay. Admittably, it doesn't look bad. But it doesn't seem to be the sliced bread of modern cinema.

The cinematography is terrific. We'll see how the rest of the film turns out though.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 27, 2015, 03:04:10 PM
" Remember The Dark Knight Rises ? " shot at 1:06 :p
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on January 27, 2015, 05:50:31 PM
I think both Fantastic Four and Ant-Man are gonna surprise a lot of people.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on January 27, 2015, 05:51:43 PM
Hey, I'm game for both.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on January 27, 2015, 06:21:31 PM
Just watched Sunshine. It was decent
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on January 27, 2015, 11:28:21 PM
Just watched Sunshine. It was decent

I actually really like that one. I thought it was awesome how they portrayed how powerful the sun can be, even in a weakened state like that. And the rest of the movie was cool too.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 28, 2015, 07:01:45 AM
I think both Fantastic Four and Ant-Man are gonna surprise a lot of people.
I am already expecting Ant-Man to be good.

I hope that FF will be good, but I don't expect it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on January 28, 2015, 08:40:45 AM
Waterhole #3. Old sixties western/comedy. Wow  :lol

This has redeeming qualities, but I'm not sure how it ended up with a 6.5/10 on imdb.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 28, 2015, 08:44:29 AM
I remember everyone saying " Y Tu Mama Tambien " was a must-watch.


And I remember thinking "  :angry: My GOD this film is shit. "
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: masterthes on January 28, 2015, 11:46:50 AM
Best picture will either be Birdman or Boyhood

Won't be Selma because of 12 Years, and it won't be American Sniper because of Hurt Locker
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Outcrier on January 28, 2015, 11:55:07 AM
Waterhole #3. Old sixties western/comedy. Wow  :lol

This has redeeming qualities, but I'm not sure how it ended up with a 6.5/10 on imdb.

Imdb ratings ::)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on January 28, 2015, 04:39:13 PM
True. I mean, it was silly and fun, but it was also pretty dumb.... not to mention extremely sexist. Not surprising considering it was made in the sixties and takes place in the old west, but that doesn't make it enjoyable to basically hear a man say "Well, you're a very pretty woman- of course you were raped." TWICE.  :\

Kotow, I really liked that one! But I also want to have Gael Garcia Bernal's babies, so...
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on January 29, 2015, 07:13:04 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/e2w1D7L.jpg)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 29, 2015, 07:14:53 PM
Will see for TEH LOLZ.

I already saw Terminator 2 : Judgement Day though :)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 29, 2015, 09:13:20 PM
I think it will be a decent movie, certainly better than the last two. I don't have any illusions that this will be on the level of the first two, so I won't judge it against those.
I liked the bit in the new trailer of the T-1000 walking out of the flames exactly like in T2, and the repeated parts of the T1 timeline. At the very least it will be a walk down nostalgia lane, and maybe they'll make a decent movie of their own around it. And if it's terrible, it wouldn't be the first one to ruin the franchise.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on January 29, 2015, 11:47:27 PM
I have little faith in this.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on January 30, 2015, 12:58:07 AM
Arnold Schwarzenegger is a robot and shoots people. I really don't care about anything else.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Outcrier on January 30, 2015, 01:06:10 AM
 :lol

I have little faith in this.

Going by the director and writers, me too.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 30, 2015, 01:34:06 AM
Arnold Schwarzenegger is a robot and shoots people. I really don't care about anything else.

Heck, just name it that. "Terminator 5: Arnold Schwarzenegger Is a Robot and Shoots People". Works for me.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on January 30, 2015, 03:24:35 AM
I'm still excited for T5, mainly because of Arnold.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 30, 2015, 05:54:15 AM
Yeah it can only be *as bad* as the previous two.

It looks like a kind of Back To The Future 2 meets Star Trek 2009 type deal.

Me and my bro will probably go and see it anyway just for shits & giggles.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on January 30, 2015, 06:06:27 AM
Just saw Arnold frying an ostrich egg on his own fucking tank! Yep still a bad-ass!!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on January 30, 2015, 06:16:46 AM
I can give his acting a pass because he's pretty much a childhood hero. I grew up on his movies, and fortunately I had parents who let their way-too-young child watch movies where Arnold slaughtered henchmen, and I think it was one of my first good memories of movies in general. Being 7-8 year old and seeing movies like Terminator, Predator and Commando. He has some misses, and movies like Batman & Robin, Junior or Red Sonja are movies I never feel a need to revisit. Possibly the first one if someone hasn't seen it, just to laugh at how bad it is. But overall I really enjoy his movies. He's not a great actor, but he's a likable actor. Put him in the right role, like in Terminator or Predator, and the audience will root for him.

I also recently read his book, and I must say that it increased my appreciation for him. He has made a few missteps (like the infidelity) but he's a hard worker who came to America with a dream, and his motivation & how he accomplished his goals is really impressive. He also seems to be a cool guy who does a lot of work for charity to help people in need. Would love to meet him one day.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 30, 2015, 07:10:21 AM
Yeah he always seems like a dude to me. Always smiling. Poking fun at his image.

The opposite of someone like Colin Farrell for example or Dolph Lundgren. Just miserable guys or always getting into fisticuffs.



And Arnie's acting - he's not a great actor but he gets a pass from me too because he's so charismatic.

I wouldn't even call his acting "bad" - as in Keanu Reeves levels - but adequate for whatever film he's in.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on January 30, 2015, 09:25:00 AM
He's not a great actor, but he's a likable actor.

The recipe for an actual movie star right there.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: masterthes on January 30, 2015, 10:31:14 AM
Arnold's the man. I'll pretty much see anything he's in
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on January 30, 2015, 11:06:56 AM
He's not a great actor, but he's a likable actor.

The recipe for an actual movie star right there.

I would agree that Arnold is more of a movie star than an actor, but on the other hand I could think of several "movie stars" that aren't THAT likable.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on January 30, 2015, 11:50:03 AM
Maybe likable on screen but an arce in real life and fans don't care.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dimitrius on January 30, 2015, 07:57:54 PM
Yeah, I'm actually looking forward to T5 even if it sucks.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on January 30, 2015, 08:08:32 PM
Yeah, I'm actually looking forward to T5 even if it sucks.

Me too.

The franchise already hit bottom long ago, so I'm up for anything.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on January 31, 2015, 12:42:08 AM
I know I'm late to the party, but I only just recently saw the Mad Max trailer.



 :eek


I'm usually fairly meh on modern day action trailers, I'm just sick of all the stylized spectle of it all.    I'm not sure exactly what made MM different, but my jaw hit the freakin floor.    It's the first remake trailer I've EVER seen in my 45 years on this planet that made me believe that maybe (just maybe) it was possible for a remake to actually outshine the original source material.     I'm reserving my final judgement.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on January 31, 2015, 12:55:44 AM
Yeah, I'm actually looking forward to T5 even if it sucks.

Me too.

The franchise already hit bottom long ago, so I'm up for anything.

Some Terminator movies (RotM) may not be very good at all, but I wouldn't say 'hit bottom', there are still things to enjoy in each of the Terminator movies.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Lucien on January 31, 2015, 01:00:38 AM
Holy SHIT, Big Hero 6 was awesome. (even if the dialouge was corny rather often)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 31, 2015, 05:21:15 AM
I know I'm late to the party, but I only just recently saw the Mad Max trailer.



 :eek


I'm usually fairly meh on modern day action trailers, I'm just sick of all the stylized spectle of it all.    I'm not sure exactly what made MM different, but my jaw hit the freakin floor.    It's the first remake trailer I've EVER seen in my 45 years on this planet that made me believe that maybe (just maybe) it was possible for a remake to actually outshine the original source material.     I'm reserving my final judgement.
It's my understanding that it's not a remake.  Tom Hardy is just taking over the role.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 31, 2015, 05:34:39 AM
This is true - also it's the same director as the first two movies.





EDIT _ and co-director of Mad Max 3
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 31, 2015, 05:39:47 AM
This is true - also it's the same director as the first two movies.





EDIT _ and co-director of Mad Max 3
Yeah, and that is key.

TBH, I've never been a huge fan of the Mad Max films.  But the trailer for this one looks so batshit crazy that I want to see it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 31, 2015, 05:45:21 AM
Plus Tom Hardy.




EDIT - Tom Hardy has donen really well for himself despite being Shinzon in Star Trek nemesis.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 31, 2015, 05:58:21 AM
I love Tom Hardy.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 31, 2015, 06:23:48 AM
Me when i found out The Forger from Inception was Shinzon :  :omg: WHAT
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 31, 2015, 06:30:35 AM
Nemesis is the only thing I've ever seen him in, so he's just Shinzon to me.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on January 31, 2015, 06:52:46 AM
So you don't get out and you don't get out.  :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: mikemangioy on January 31, 2015, 06:59:52 AM
Hi there, first time posting in here.

So, I'm not a big movie-watcher, but this year I wanted to start watching more movies, just because in November I saw V For Vendetta and I was practicly blown away by it, making me realize that I should watch more movies. So, if it's ok with you I'll do a monthly short reviews thing of all the movies that I've watched during the month. I know, I'm weird.

So, here's my January in movies:

THE WOLF OF WALL STREET
(2013, directed by Martin Scorsese)

This movie was fun to watch given the level of insanity in it, but I think that its problem is ultimately that. To me the sex and drugs scenes took much away from the central plot of the movie, and it dragged on a bit, but still, it was a pleasant watch. Leo was amazing in here, but also all the other people, makes you understand what a mess the human species is when it comes to power.

Personal vote: 3.5/5


THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2
(2013, directed by Marc Webb)

Considering that I've loved the Spider Man franchise since I was little, I have to admit, I much prefer this rehash of it than to the Raimi classics. Every character is just SO MUCH better, and the overly dramatic factor is gone. But the villains remain nothing compared to the Raimi trilogy. TAS 2 combines cool villains, a superb cast choice (even though the dialogues were just a bit.. stale, especially the ones between Garfield and DeHaan) and some surpises that you wouldn't expect, that give the movie some balance between nearly cheesy atmosphere and the more serious tone.

Personal vote: 4/5


BIG HERO 6
(2014, directed by Don Hall and Chris Williams)

Animated movies are a blast. And this one was especially such fun to watch. I think I've never laughed this much to an animated feature since Nemo. Big Hero 6, even though is Disney, feels much like a Marvel movie (makes sense, considering the film is taken from a Marvel comic). I didn't know that originally, and I thought while I was watching it "this is quite an original Disney movie" so yeah, I was a bit disappointed  :lol . But still, the movie is great fun, the characters are great, and yeah, it's a touching film too. And also, one of the creepiest villains that I've ever seen in an animated movie.

Personal vote: 4/5

MOONRISE KINGDOM
(2012, directed by Wes Anderson)

Wes is one of my favorites directors. I just love the imagery in his movies, Mr. Fox is one of the most peculiar animated movies I've ever watched, same with Grand Budapest Hotel, both are awesome films.
Moonrise Kingdom is no exception, infact, it might be my favorite imagery-wise. Just look at all the beautiful sights and the gorgeous photography. Wow. Even though the plot was sooo cute (and those kid actors, my god were they great) , I think that in the end it was pretty boring, and 90 minutes felt like 110, if not two hours.  But still, this is a very interesting movie and I'd reccomend it.

Personal vote: 3.5/5


WHIPLASH
(2014, directed by Damien Chazelle)

Good God, where do I begin with this one? Being a drummer, watching this movie felt familiar to me and also it was quite inspiring. The music was very good too, and the fact that Whiplash (the song) is in 14/8 made me chuckle (being an odd-time freak). But oh God, watching all the struggle, the blood, the anger and the will to be succesful in this movie, inspired me a lot, infact, this might be the most inspiring movie I've ever seen (other that The Pursuit Of Happyness). And now, I'll just stand up and bow to J.K. Simmons  :hefdaddy :hefdaddy - One of the best performances I've ever seen in any movie, easily. But still, I'm no big movie-watcher, so, I don't know if my word is that safe. And finally, the finale... sweet Jesus, what a climax. Whiplash is shaping up to become one of my favorites of all time, if it already isn't.  :metal

Personal vote: 5/5


THE IMITATION GAME
(2014, directed by Morten Tyldun)

This movie is an exemple of a well-done movie. Everything is like what it should be, the actors do their job well, an interesting story and a good narration. That's The Imitation Game. Other than the fact that while I was watching it Enigma Machine's riff continuosly rang in my head, this movie... satisfied me and kinda blew my mind too, especially at the end, with all those post-movie facts, and also how bad the homosexuals were treated back then, I never really realized. Great stuff, Benedict Cumberbatch's interpretation especially.

Personal vote: 4.5/5


THE BOY IN THE STRIPED PAJAMAS
(2008, directed by Mark Herman)

Now, this was a big disappointment. I've always heard nice things about this movie, but today I watched it in school and it was just... inconsistent. 80 out of those 90 minutes were IMO really bland, without strong characters and overall just.. boring. I didn't like the actors, I didn't like the structure, and fuck, the ending is just so rushed it hurts. But the message behind the movie is quite strong, can't say anything on that. Over the years I've watched many movies about the Holocaust, and this is certainly my least favorite, or if not, one of my least favorites. Meh.

Personal vote: 2.5/5

--Overall:

Pretty great month, really balanced between awesome, good and meh. Looking forward to the rest of the year. Any recommendations?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on January 31, 2015, 07:19:04 AM
THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2
(2013, directed by Marc Webb)

Considering that I've loved the Spider Man franchise since I was little, I have to admit, I much prefer this rehash of it than to the Raimi classics. Every character is just SO MUCH better, and the overly dramatic factor is gone. But the villains remain nothing compared to the Raimi trilogy. TAS 2 combines cool villains, a superb cast choice (even though the dialogues were just a bit.. stale, especially the ones between Garfield and DeHaan) and some surpises that you wouldn't expect, that give the movie some balance between nearly cheesy atmosphere and the more serious tone.

Personal vote: 4/5

The scene with Garfield and DeHaan just talkng was, to me, one of the more interesting scenes in the movie. Other than that, the movie was incredibly bland. Third worst I saw in 2014.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 31, 2015, 07:27:55 AM
Nemesis is the only thing I've ever seen him in, so he's just Shinzon to me.
Good grief Blob.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 31, 2015, 07:55:52 AM
Nemesis is the only thing I've ever seen him in, so he's just Shinzon to me.
Good grief Blob.

+1.


You haven't even seen The Dark Knight Rises?! Or Inception. :|
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 31, 2015, 07:57:32 AM
Nemesis is the only thing I've ever seen him in, so he's just Shinzon to me.
Good grief Blob.

+1.


You haven't even seen The Dark Knight Rises?! Or Inception. :|

After seeing Batman Begins and TDK, there's no way I'm ever watching TDKR, and pretty unlikely I'll bother with another Nolan film in general.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 31, 2015, 08:05:48 AM
Right.

I'd understand if you replaced BB & TDK & Nolan with

Barman Forever, Batman & Robin & Joel Schumacher.

::)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 31, 2015, 08:10:53 AM
Blob definitely has interesting taste.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on January 31, 2015, 08:18:19 AM
Nemesis is the only thing I've ever seen him in, so he's just Shinzon to me.
Good grief Blob.

+1.


You haven't even seen The Dark Knight Rises?! Or Inception. :|

After seeing Batman Begins and TDK, there's no way I'm ever watching TDKR, and pretty unlikely I'll bother with another Nolan film in general.

*Virtual Bitch Slap*
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on January 31, 2015, 11:46:31 AM
Yesterday I watched the movie The Maze Runner, mostly on impulse. I will admit that I'm not sold on the "teenage book turned movie" category, and even universally loved movies like The Hunger Games do very little for me. Decent movies? Sure, but worthy of being up there with the top grossing movies for their years? Hell no. So the category itself might not be for me, but I read about the premise for The Maze Runner, and it was interesting enough that I wanted to check it out.

I will say that I liked the first hour or so, and the premise is really interesting, and I was along for the ride. The problem I had, was that in similar fashion to other "mystery" movies, the more things that were revealed, the more the quality of the movie dropped. It started out as a great combination of Lost and Lord of the Flies, but the last half hour kinda ruined it for me. It's a shame because despite being a good idea, it kinda fell apart the more things you found out.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on January 31, 2015, 12:33:46 PM
I will admit that I'm not sold on the "teenage book turned movie" category, and even universally loved movies like The Hunger Games do very little for me. Decent movies? Sure, but worthy of being up there with the top grossing movies for their years? Hell no.

The thing is, if a book (or book series) is popular, it's huge.  Everybody's reading it.  So naturally, they'll make a movie (or movie series) and it will be huge because there's a built-in fan base.  Anyone who likes the books will see the movie, and that will in turn draw even more people to see it, those who haven't read it, because apparently it's really popular and therefore must be good.  The movie doesn't have to be significantly better than average, it just has to be good enough.  That doesn't make it "worthy" of being one of the top grossers for the year, but it makes perfect sense that it will happen.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Accelerando on January 31, 2015, 02:58:48 PM
I went to the Egyptian Theater last night in Hollywood to catch a classic 70's double feature with The French Connection and The Driver; two classic films with iconic car chases.

The French Connection hasn't aged well, and that's mostly due to the editing. It's still a classic film, and it's a reflection of its time; there was no other movie like it. It was the first R rated film to the win the Academy Award for Best Picture, and it was shot documentary style that was fresh and inspired a series of films that duplicated that style throughout the 70's. Gene Hackman is worth viewing the film nowadays. There was a genius simplicity in his character's toughness that I enjoyed. Roy Schneider gave a good performance, but was overshadowed by Hackman's energy. I've always felt the story was clunky, and after rewetting the movie last night, I also felt it takes too long to build. I don’t need to see Doyle toss the same bar twice. I don’t really need the scene with an informant, who never shows up again. Overall it's a good film, and definitely a reflection of it's time.

I enjoyed The Driver immensely, and it was my very first time seeing this film last night. I can see why Michael Mann said this film inspired him to make Heat. A cop and a criminal competing with each other to obtain their goals. There's a scene with Bruce Dern and Ryan O'Neal that the famous scene in Heat with De Niro and Pacino just absolutely channeled. The cinematography was top notch during the car chases. The angle Walter Hill chooses to shoot those chase scenes elevated the excitement. I loved Bruce Dern's performance in this film. The cat and mouse theatrics do fill the story, but the movie is defined by the amazing car chases.

Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Randaran on January 31, 2015, 03:28:01 PM
I will admit that I'm not sold on the "teenage book turned movie" category, and even universally loved movies like The Hunger Games do very little for me. Decent movies? Sure, but worthy of being up there with the top grossing movies for their years? Hell no.

Yeah, I do not understand the hype surrounding these types of movies. For example, Harry Potter. Everyone I knew kept talking about how awesome they were, and yet I thought that every movie after Prizoner of Askaban was boring to the point of inducing narcolepsy. The Hunger Games was the same (though I have only seen Catching Fire, and thus cannot comment on the others).

I am thinking of watching all of Kubrick's films in the coming weeks. So far, I have only seen Full Metal Jacket. Which one do you guys recommend starting with?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on January 31, 2015, 03:41:29 PM
Finding myself as the only guy in a group of six tonight apparently meant that I had to sit through The Other Woman.

It was, without a doubt, the worst movie out of all the ones I've seen from 2014. It's not easy to be worse than Transformers 4, but boy did this one do it. When a comedy fails to make me laugh one single time during the whole thing, that movie has failed horribly. And it never fucking ended, it felt like it went on forever.

Never see this move.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on January 31, 2015, 06:45:29 PM
Finding myself as the only guy in a group of six tonight apparently meant that I had to sit through The Other Woman.

It was, without a doubt, the worst movie out of all the ones I've seen from 2014. It's not easy to be worse than Transformers 4, but boy did this one do it. When a comedy fails to make me laugh one single time during the whole thing, that movie has failed horribly. And it never fucking ended, it felt like it went on forever.

Never see this move.

Not even just to watch Kate Upton? 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on January 31, 2015, 07:09:26 PM
No shit film is worth sitting through. Regardless of who might be in it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 01, 2015, 12:59:10 AM
Not even just to watch Kate Upton?

She was cute, sure, but you'll have a better time on google images.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 01, 2015, 02:11:18 AM
You'd have a much better time on Google images, because then you could look at someone who wasn't Kate Upton.




I dedicate this controversial post to my pal, hef.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Prog Snob on February 01, 2015, 02:17:35 AM
I don't think I could watch a shitty movie just because a certain gorgeous actress was in it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on February 01, 2015, 02:46:21 AM
Nemesis is the only thing I've ever seen him in, so he's just Shinzon to me.
Good grief Blob.

+1.


You haven't even seen The Dark Knight Rises?! Or Inception. :|

After seeing Batman Begins and TDK, there's no way I'm ever watching TDKR, and pretty unlikely I'll bother with another Nolan film in general.
I've seen every film Nolan's done since his obscure debut (not that I made a point of it or anything, I just like and always seem to see his movies). TDKR is easily the low point of his career, and probably the only movie of his that isn't very good. If you bother with any other film of his at any point, don't make it that one.

Inception is very good though.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on February 01, 2015, 02:55:33 AM
In other news, I watched The Iron Giant a few days ago. I generally don't enjoy animated films, but everyone has spoken of this to me as not just a great animated movie, but an amazing movie in its own right, so I gave it a try.

It was good, but I didn't love it. In other words, no difference from the norm.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on February 01, 2015, 04:56:46 AM
I don't think I could watch a shitty movie just because a certain gorgeous actress was in it.

I bet you'd stay through a shitty movie for punany on a date though.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on February 01, 2015, 09:43:57 AM
Not even just to watch Kate Upton?

She was cute, sure, but you'll have a better time on google images.


That's true.  There's also the constant barrage of Game of War commercials.   .....and her breathtaking skills as an equestrian.   :angel:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on February 01, 2015, 11:54:34 AM
I am thinking of watching all of Kubrick's films in the coming weeks. So far, I have only seen Full Metal Jacket. Which one do you guys recommend starting with?

FMJ is his most immediately accessible film, at least out of Kubrick's films that I've personally seen. Following that, I'd suggest checking out either A Clockwork Orange or The Shining (my personal favorite) after that. Following those two, I'd go for Dr. Strangelove. Eyes Wide Shut should definitely be seen at some point, but it's a bit more 'artsy' and less accessible than some of Kubrick's other well-known films.

Personally I'm not a big fan of 2001 myself, but it is technically brilliant. I'd save off on watching it until you get a decent grasp on Kubrick's directing style.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 01, 2015, 11:57:47 AM
You need to be in the right mood for 2001 but it is a spectacle.

The Shining is indeed my favourite too.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 01, 2015, 12:05:09 PM
Finding myself as the only guy in a group of six tonight apparently meant that I had to sit through The Other Woman.

It was, without a doubt, the worst movie out of all the ones I've seen from 2014. It's not easy to be worse than Transformers 4, but boy did this one do it. When a comedy fails to make me laugh one single time during the whole thing, that movie has failed horribly. And it never fucking ended, it felt like it went on forever.

Never see this move.
If you think The Other Woman was that bad, then you haven't seen very many truly awful movies. I saw it, and it wasn't anywhere near as bad as you say.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Accelerando on February 01, 2015, 12:36:21 PM
I am thinking of watching all of Kubrick's films in the coming weeks. So far, I have only seen Full Metal Jacket. Which one do you guys recommend starting with?

FMJ is his most immediately accessible film, at least out of Kubrick's films that I've personally seen.

Agreed, but have you seen Spartacus? More accessible than FMJ.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on February 01, 2015, 03:06:51 PM
I am thinking of watching all of Kubrick's films in the coming weeks. So far, I have only seen Full Metal Jacket. Which one do you guys recommend starting with?

FMJ is his most immediately accessible film, at least out of Kubrick's films that I've personally seen.

Agreed, but have you seen Spartacus? More accessible than FMJ.

I have, but not since I was in middle school. That said, my memory of it is that it really doesn't feel much at all like Kubrick's other classics. It also came off as being very dated. It's an early 60's epic. Definitely worth checking out and I'm sure I'll revisit it in the near future, but I still maintain FMJ as being more accessible on the whole.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on February 01, 2015, 03:26:48 PM

I am thinking of watching all of Kubrick's films in the coming weeks. So far, I have only seen Full Metal Jacket. Which one do you guys recommend starting with?

The shining.

My favorite Kubrick movie, my favorite horror movie and one of my favorite movies in general.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 01, 2015, 03:57:48 PM

I am thinking of watching all of Kubrick's films in the coming weeks. So far, I have only seen Full Metal Jacket. Which one do you guys recommend starting with?

The shining.

My favorite Kubrick movie, my favorite horror movie and one of my favorite movies in general.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on February 01, 2015, 04:02:34 PM

I am thinking of watching all of Kubrick's films in the coming weeks. So far, I have only seen Full Metal Jacket. Which one do you guys recommend starting with?

The shining.

My favorite Kubrick movie, my favorite horror movie and one of my favorite movies in general.

Agreed. It's one of the absolute greatest films ever made, even outside of the horror genre.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 01, 2015, 04:31:16 PM
Have you seen that documentary that suggests the entire film is a palindrome and mirrors play a vital part in the movie ?

Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on February 01, 2015, 04:36:28 PM
Have you seen that documentary that suggests the entire film is a palindrome and mirrors play a vital part in the movie ?

Yeah, very fascinating stuff.

Even little things like Ulman's office window not being physically possible, I never picked up on.

(https://www.collativelearning.com/PICS%20FOR%20WEBSITE/SHINING%20EXPANDED/ullman%20office%20wide.jpg)

(https://www.collativelearning.com/PICS%20FOR%20WEBSITE/SHINING%20EXPANDED/lobbymap%20with%20captions%20SHRUNK1.JPG)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 01, 2015, 05:17:46 PM
New Jurassic Park Trailer still doesn't do anything for me.

Looks like a remake of the first one - just nowhere near as good.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on February 01, 2015, 05:54:57 PM
New Jurassic Park Trailer still doesn't do anything for me.

Looks like a remake of the first one - just nowhere near as good.

Have you actually seen the first movie?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
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Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 02, 2015, 03:02:25 AM
New Jurassic World trailer didn't impress me neither. We might get some fun stuff with the holyshitosaurus, but otherwise it looks kinda meh. Looks better than 3 though.

If you think The Other Woman was that bad, then you haven't seen very many truly awful movies. I saw it, and it wasn't anywhere near as bad as you say.

That is probably true, because I usually don't go for the ones I expect to be bad. So yeah, most movies I've seen are either ones I like or ones I at least enjoyed on some level, with only a few of them being ones I hate. The top half of my bottom 10 lists from every year are actually movies I rather enjoyed.

All I know is that, when a movie under two hours feels as long as it did and refuses to end, and literally had me writhing in impatience, irritation, and boredom, it'll be a worst of the year movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on February 02, 2015, 03:28:37 AM
I think the thing with bad movies is that the most painful movies to sit through are not the worst ones, but the most mediocre ones. The truly awful movies that just fail across the board can still be entertaining to watch, because you get a lot of laughter for how bad some things are, and movies like The Room, Samurai Cop or Troll 2 have become classic "so bad they're good" movies. Then you have movies that are technically okay, but everything is so mediocre and lacks any redeemable qualities.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on February 02, 2015, 08:35:27 AM
Agreed.

I watched Knowing last night, which actually wasn't too bad until the end when it basically became a religious movie. But I thought the story was decent (often suspenseful/creepy) and it was visually well done.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 02, 2015, 12:46:57 PM
That's actually a movie I truly enjoy quite a lot. Nicolas Cage's best movie. Whatever that means to people.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on February 02, 2015, 12:49:23 PM
Agreed.

I watched Knowing last night, which actually wasn't too bad until the end when it basically became a religious movie. But I thought the story was decent (often suspenseful/creepy) and it was visually well done.

Except that scene where Cage sticks his arms in fire like it wasn't there....... because it wasn't.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on February 02, 2015, 02:14:53 PM
Nic Cage is awesome though. He's done some terrible movies, but he always makes a movie more entertaining even if it's bad. Don't even get me started on Wicker Man.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on February 02, 2015, 02:16:18 PM
New Jurassic Park Trailer still doesn't do anything for me.

Looks like a remake of the first one - just nowhere near as good.

Have you actually seen the first movie?
Yeah, I don't recall them opening a park.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 02, 2015, 02:21:52 PM
And that scene where two kids in a car get crushed by a dinosaur definitely doesn't remind me of anything else.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on February 02, 2015, 02:24:25 PM
One scene. Definitely a remake.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on February 02, 2015, 02:46:49 PM
Haven't seen the movie of course but they couldn't come up with a better plot then "Narrow minded scientists creating hybrid street smart dino that goes bezerk on public dino park which everyone of course thought was a brilliant idea except one dude that of course is also the only dude capable of doing something about it"? Or something like that.

Can't wait!!  :metal :corn
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 02, 2015, 02:47:51 PM
One scene. Definitely a remake.

Sorry madam. I forgot you wrote it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on February 02, 2015, 02:51:08 PM
You lost this round, Mr. Boy.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 02, 2015, 03:07:12 PM
I don't want to play anymore.

Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on February 02, 2015, 10:20:57 PM
Nic Cage is awesome though. He's done some terrible movies, but he always makes a movie more entertaining even if it's bad. Don't even get me started on Wicker Man.

Heh, agreed. He can be horribly over-the-top (which isn't necessarily a bad thing), but he can also be a legitimately good actor.

Agreed.

I watched Knowing last night, which actually wasn't too bad until the end when it basically became a religious movie. But I thought the story was decent (often suspenseful/creepy) and it was visually well done.

Except that scene where Cage sticks his arms in fire like it wasn't there....... because it wasn't.

 :lol, true. But I did watch in the extras that they carted actual plane chunks out there for that set.

That's actually a movie I truly enjoy quite a lot. Nicolas Cage's best movie. Whatever that means to people.

I agree about it being enjoyable, but not even close to his best! I probably posted this here but I recently watched Joe and thought it was really fucking good. One of his best, maybe.


Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on February 02, 2015, 11:56:25 PM
Adaptation is easily Cage's best IMO. I generally loathe him and I actually like him in that one.

Knowing is actually one of my most hated of his I've seen, heh. I mean, it's probably aided by the fact I seem to have an aversion to those sorts of movies in the first place, but in any case the ending was unforgivably cheesy, heh.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on February 03, 2015, 12:01:34 AM
Yeah, I actually groaned/yelled when I saw the tree.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 03, 2015, 01:17:41 AM
SPOILERS FOR 'KNOWING'

I don't get what's wrong with that. It's not like they're trying to say "THIS IS HOW IT HAPPENED PEOPLE, BELIEVE IN OUR LAWD!". It's just a fun nod at a classic origin story for humanity.

And I don't get what's cheesy about the ending. Everyone dies. And the 'goodbye' scene is genuinely emotional in my opinion.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on February 03, 2015, 03:36:11 AM
I watched Knowing a few years back and I feel like it was a very typical mystery movie, where the premise sounds interesting and the beginning of the movie is intriguing, but the more they reveal, the more the movie just nosedives in quality.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 03, 2015, 07:04:00 AM
Nicolas Cage's best movie is, without question, The Rock.  That is all.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Bolsters on February 03, 2015, 07:08:18 AM
Nicolas Cage's best movie is, without question, The Rock.  That is all.
That is a good one. But I think I'd go with Face/Off.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: cramx3 on February 03, 2015, 07:21:37 AM
Nicolas Cage's best movie is, without question, The Rock.  That is all.
That is a good one. But I think I'd go with Face/Off.

Both very good movies and both better because of the other lead actor  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Bolsters on February 03, 2015, 07:38:16 AM
Nicolas Cage's best movie is, without question, The Rock.  That is all.
That is a good one. But I think I'd go with Face/Off.
Both very good movies and both better because of the other lead actor  :biggrin:
Can't say I disagree with that. :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on February 03, 2015, 07:38:53 AM
Yeah I would say Face/Off is probably the best, out of the ones I've seen. There's quite a few movies of his that has gotten pretty good reviews that I haven't gotten around to seeing, like: Wild at Heart, Adaption & Raising Arizona.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Lynxo on February 03, 2015, 07:42:32 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EG6apxGWqw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EG6apxGWqw)

This scene alone makes the movie awesome.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on February 03, 2015, 08:47:36 AM
 :lol, I always want him to say "You're cool" to the third person in that scene. Anyway, Face/Off is fucking ridiculous and I love it.

Yeah I would say Face/Off is probably the best, out of the ones I've seen. There's quite a few movies of his that has gotten pretty good reviews that I haven't gotten around to seeing, like: Wild at Heart, Adaption & Raising Arizona.

You need to see all of those! I just recently saw Wild at Heart and absolutely loved it.

SPOILERS FOR 'KNOWING'

I don't get what's wrong with that. It's not like they're trying to say "THIS IS HOW IT HAPPENED PEOPLE, BELIEVE IN OUR LAWD!". It's just a fun nod at a classic origin story for humanity.


Yeah, but he also says he now knows there's an afterlife. I'm not sure how aliens confirm that, but okay.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 03, 2015, 10:17:59 AM
Just saw Prisoners with Hugh Jackman and Jake Gyllenhaal. It was awesome. Deeply unsettling at times, with a very creepy atmosphere. Fantastic acting by everyone. I don't know why it took me this long to see it.

I put it at #1 on my 2013 list, just beating Django Unchained.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on February 03, 2015, 11:08:10 AM
Just saw Prisoners with Hugh Jackman and Jake Gyllenhaal. It was awesome. Deeply unsettling at times, with a very creepy atmosphere. Fantastic acting by everyone. I don't know why it took me this long to see it.

I put it at #1 on my 2013 list, just beating Django Unchained.

Prisoners is really good. Villeneuve is a great director, and he followed Prisoners with another Gyllenhaal movie called Enemy, which is just as good, if not even better than Prisoners.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 03, 2015, 02:36:43 PM
Just saw Prisoners with Hugh Jackman and Jake Gyllenhaal. It was awesome. Deeply unsettling at times, with a very creepy atmosphere. Fantastic acting by everyone. I don't know why it took me this long to see it.

I put it at #1 on my 2013 list, just beating Django Unchained.

Prisoners is really good. Villeneuve is a great director, and he followed Prisoners with another Gyllenhaal movie called Enemy, which is just as good, if not even better than Prisoners.

Yeah, Prisoners was pretty good. I couldn't help but imagine how I'd react/handle the same situation.....I think Jackmans character was spot on in 'the way' a Father with his means/predications would react.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 03, 2015, 03:05:04 PM
Just saw Prisoners with Hugh Jackman and Jake Gyllenhaal. It was awesome. Deeply unsettling at times, with a very creepy atmosphere. Fantastic acting by everyone. I don't know why it took me this long to see it.

I put it at #1 on my 2013 list, just beating Django Unchained.

Prisoners is really good. Villeneuve is a great director, and he followed Prisoners with another Gyllenhaal movie called Enemy, which is just as good, if not even better than Prisoners.

I very much intend to see that as soon as I can get my hands on it! Heard it's really weird.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on February 04, 2015, 05:08:56 PM
So Birdman was amazing! The whole "one long take" was brilliantly done, only when I started to think when the next cut would come I was a bit distracted because I guess i'm just used to quick camera cuts. Loved that everything took place at a theater both off and onstage in one seamless flow. One of the best movies of 2014 for sure.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on February 04, 2015, 11:15:11 PM
Inherent Vice. Not sure exactly what just happened, but I enjoyed it  :lol

Josh Brolin was probably the highlight for me, but it's full of downright awesome performances.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dimitrius on February 05, 2015, 05:05:02 AM
Whiplash is utterly fantastic! JK Simmons completely owns this movie!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 05, 2015, 06:51:57 AM
After seeing Prisoners the day before last, I saw Enemy today. It was really freaky. I love how it was able to make me nervous about mostly nothing. Forexample, in this one scene he's just reading about a guy on the internet, and the music, cinematography, and acting just made nervous about it.

I wouldn't say that it's as good as Prisoners, but it was definetely a great movie. First words once it was finished: "What the fuck." Not even as a question, just "what the fuck".
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Accelerando on February 07, 2015, 01:22:58 AM
Got around seeing Whiplash tonight.....great film. I'm planning on my second viewing soon. I loved it.

I have now seen all 8 films in the Best Picture category for this years Oscars. I think Boyhood will get the award for it's filmmaking achievement, but I don't think it's the best film of the year. In fact, the best film of the year wasn't even nominated (Nightcrawler). But alas, here is how I rank nominees:

1. Whiplash
2. American Sniper
3. Selma
4. The Imitation Game
5. Birdman
6. The Grand Budapest Hotel
7. Boyhood
8. The Theory of Everything
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 07, 2015, 04:31:37 AM
Watched How To Train Your Dragon 2 last night with the family.  I did it for family time, but it was really pretty good.

In fact, I bought the whole thing, except for how the Alpha was under the control of the villain.  I just didn't buy it.  But other than that, it was cool.  I was especially appreciative of the dragon's spine lighting up for his breath weapon like Godzilla at the end when he faced the Alpha.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on February 07, 2015, 08:22:45 AM
I was pretty much the same.  I couldn't see how the bad guy was controlling Alpha dragon.  Other than that, pretty good, even a twist or two that I wasn't expecting.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on February 07, 2015, 08:25:58 AM
I loved it, thought it was even better than the first one, which I also loved.

And the song with Jónsi on it was fantastic.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 07, 2015, 09:13:59 AM
The movie itself was perfectly fine. But what really blew me away was the animation, fantastic.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on February 08, 2015, 07:58:54 AM
Whiplash - not just my favorite of 2014, but probably the best movie I've seen in quite some time. Those last 10 minutes might be the most intense ending to a movie ever, and the movie got a standing ovation afterwards. Was awesome.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: KevShmev on February 08, 2015, 05:09:46 PM
Almost a year after it came out, I've finally seen Saving Mr. Banks. It's really terrible - it's like Disney taunting P.L. Traverse from beyond the grave.

Im not a fan of Disney, but I finally saw this recently, too, and really enjoyed it.  Then again, I don't care if films are not 100% accurate.  It's a movie, not a documentary.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 08, 2015, 05:18:12 PM
I just can't stand Emma Thompson.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on February 09, 2015, 05:57:57 AM
Last night, I re-watched one of my favorite movies:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/6c/Heatposter.jpg/220px-Heatposter.jpg)

I am just fascinated beyond words with this film.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 09, 2015, 06:25:49 AM
I think it is really good, but it's not as awesome as I expected it to be when it came out.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Xanthul on February 09, 2015, 06:33:36 AM
Last night, I re-watched one of my favorite movies:

HEAT

I am just fascinated beyond words with this film.

This is one of the few films ever that NEVER bores me. If I'm flipping through channels and it shows up, I always end up watching it again.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The Trooper on February 09, 2015, 04:22:19 PM
Finally saw the last of the best picture nominees. Most outstsnding films and some great ones that missed the cut. But of the 8 nominated:

1) American Sniper
2) theory of Everything
3) Whiplash
4) Birdman
5) Imitation Game
6) Selma
7) Boyhood
8) Grand Budaphest

If Eddie Redmayne (s/p?) does not win best actor for the greatest acting performance since Daniel Day Lewis in Gangs of New York it is a travesty. J.K. Simmons hands down should also be a lock.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: KevShmev on February 09, 2015, 04:29:20 PM
Heat is too awesome for words.  Definitely a  :hefdaddy :hefdaddy film.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 10, 2015, 02:41:39 AM
I tried watching American Sniper. I got maybe 20 minutes in, and then just thought "I don't care", and watched something else. It didn't even manage to make me finish it, which is a problem for me with quite a few movies these days, I've noticed.

I can't imagine I'll be interested enough to see Selma either. But I am very much looking forward to Birdman and Whiplash.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on February 10, 2015, 05:43:58 AM
I've only heard of two out of those eight films. I didn't see any of them.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 10, 2015, 08:57:33 AM
1) American Sniper          - Maybe. Not really into War dramas
2) theory of Everything    - Meh - this looks like it was made purely to win awards.
3) Whiplash                    -  Possibly. I may enjoy the music as well as the acting :)
4) Birdman                     -  Definitely want to see this one.
5) Imitation Game          -   Maybe. Cumberbatch is usually amazing.
6) Selma                        -   No thanks. Not into History dramas.
7) Boyhood                     -   MEH.
8) Grand Budapest          - Meh - not a Wes Anderson fan at all.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The Trooper on February 10, 2015, 09:12:26 AM
American Sniper is not a war movie. it is more about the personal side Chris went thru. I may be a bit bias on this as I knew Chris personally. Whiplash is amazing and j.k. Simmons gives a performance for the ages. Theory of Everything is really a great movie. I am a physics geek so I have read all of Hawkings books. Selma was meh. Boyhood is ok, but its getting acclaim because it took 12 years to make. Birdman is great in the performances and the way it was shot in a long take. Grand , although I am not a huge Anderson fan was ok. IMHO Nightcrawler should have got in rather than Grand. Also, I think Interstellar was one one of the best movies of the year along with St. Vincent and Chef.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 10, 2015, 09:48:32 AM
Yeah I was letdown by Interstellar's denouement . I was like " what ?? " - really unsatisfactory.


I don't care that Boyhood took 12 years to make. Harry Potter took 10 years to make - ok that was 8 films but it was all Dan Radcliffe.

Nobody mentions that. SO what if it was one film over 12 years ? I've heard that there's no script at all and scenes just start and end with no consequence.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 10, 2015, 09:53:06 AM
I agree that Nightcrawler should be on there. I don't underdstand why they chose to only nominate 8 when they can do 10, and usually does. Interstellar is my #1 movie of 2014, but I don' know if it really fits on this list.

While the '12 years to make' thing is a big thing for Boyhood, I think it deserves come cred for what it accomplished through that. Like I said earlier, some movies just doesn't grip me, like American Sniper. I'm sure Chris is a great guy, but his personal life just wasn't interesting enough for a movie to me. But Boyhood gripped me. Seeing the main character actually grow up and go through all those moments was intruiging, and made me really connect and care for the guy. The same thing that I imagine makes people connect to people in the Harry Potter movies so much, only on a less grand and much more personal level.

Ninja'd by kotow with a Harry Potter reference.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 10, 2015, 09:59:06 AM
Nobody mentions that.
Because it's not relevant.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The Trooper on February 10, 2015, 10:17:43 AM
Yeah, I feel Interstellar got robbed. I know a few people that have a vote in the Oscars and they said that it just did not connect. I was like WTF. One even told me that it was above the average persons head and was to confusing. I am no rocket scientist but I got it. So be it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 10, 2015, 10:25:53 AM
Nobody mentions that.
Because it's not relevant.

They used the same actor for 12 years !

He grew up on screen !



Yeah I see your point.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on February 10, 2015, 11:47:01 AM
Boyhood was great. It taking 12 years to make had nothing to do with that though.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on February 10, 2015, 01:34:56 PM
I would probably say:

1. Whiplash
2. Birdman
--
3. The Grand Budapest Hotel
4. The Imitation Game
5. Boyhood
6. Selma
7. The Theory of Everything
8. American Sniper

Whiplash and Birdman are so far ahead of the others that it's not even funny. IMO there are a few really good 2014 movies not in the category that I would rank higher than the other 6, like Nightcrawler, Gone Girl, The Guest and Blue Ruin. I'm not as big on Wes Anderson as a lot of others are, but The Grand Budapest Hotel was a great movie, and it's both visually pleasing as well as having interesting characters and plot. The Imitation Game was a pretty solid movie. I liked it mainly because I thought the plot was interesting and Cumberbatch was great. I'm still not on the Cumberbatch fan wagon, but seeing this movie made me very hyped for seeing Doctor Strange, hopefully he will knock that one out of the park.

Boyhood is probably my biggest disappointment and I would say the most overrated one. It's a good movie carried by the performances by the supporting actors, because the boy himself grows up to be a douchebag, and a lot of the writing felt kinda weak. Like very clearly a 50 year old man trying to write "hip" teenager dialog. I like Linklater normally, but I don't think Boyhood is one of his best movies. Probably not even in his top3, or top5 even. Selma and American Sniper both feel like very American movies, and being from another country and not having lived or experienced that history, the nostalgic & patriotic aspects of those movies didn't strike a chord with me. I enjoyed Selma more because of the performances and a slightly more interesting story, and as for The Theory of Everything, I would say it's a movie with good performances and a good story, but something felt a bit off for me. Like, I never truly got hooked into it. It was good, but not a movie that will stick with me.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 10, 2015, 02:38:44 PM
Yeah, I feel Interstellar got robbed. I know a few people that have a vote in the Oscars and they said that it just did not connect. I was like WTF. One even told me that it was above the average persons head and was to confusing. I am no rocket scientist but I got it. So be it.

One of the few problems I even have with Interstellar is that they explained it too much. It pretty much went full on exposition in the 'tesseract' scene. So I don't get the whole 'too confusing' thing either.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The Trooper on February 10, 2015, 02:42:40 PM
exactly
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on February 10, 2015, 04:00:18 PM
So there's apparently a 4 hour cut of Cloud Atlas somewhere at Warner Bros:

https://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/netflix-chief-says-4-hour-cut-of-cloud-atlas-will-blow-you-away-wachowskis-doubt-theyll-get-big-studio-budgets-again-20150210

I wouldn't mind getting my hands on that if that's true.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on February 10, 2015, 04:07:03 PM
As much as I'd love to see that, I think the theatrical cut is pretty much perfect.

Also, I've been looking forward to this Sense8 thing for a while now, hope it's good.

edit: btw, I'm still excited to see Jupiter Ascending, looks fun to me.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on February 10, 2015, 04:40:38 PM
The theatrical cut of Cloud Atlas is pretty much perfect, but I would love to see a 4 hour version.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The Trooper on February 10, 2015, 04:55:35 PM
just saw jupitar and was sadly disappointed
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dark Castle on February 10, 2015, 11:37:18 PM
Finally saw Foxcatcher, holy cheese wiz what a good movie. Phenomenal acting
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 11, 2015, 03:31:04 AM
just saw jupitar and was sadly disappointed

This is pretty much how I feel too, and I haven't even seen it. This movie never excited me at all.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 11, 2015, 03:58:45 AM
The Wachowski's have only done two good movies.

Bound & The Matrix.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on February 11, 2015, 05:54:12 AM
And cloud atlas imo, but I definitely can see why people aren't in to it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 11, 2015, 06:53:40 AM
As soon as I saw Channing Tatum's look for Jupiter Ascending, I knew the film was doomed.

Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on February 11, 2015, 08:42:51 AM
Last night I watched THX 1138. It was pretty good, but I fell asleep for small bits and pieces.


Two nights ago I watched Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer, which was AWESOME!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 11, 2015, 08:44:43 AM
As soon as I saw Channing Tatum's look for Jupiter Ascending, I knew the film was doomed.

I knew that when i saw the trailer & the fact that it doesn't really have a big name star in it.

Plus the fact that several shots in the trailer i've already seen in the Matrix Trilogy.

AND there's a review which says that thematically it's pretty much the first Matrix again.

I'd like it to do well for The Wachowskis but I don't think it will & they should go back to making small budget films again.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 11, 2015, 10:01:46 AM
Two nights ago I watched Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer, which was AWESOME!
:metal  I haven't seen that in years, but I remember it being quite dark.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Lucien on February 11, 2015, 10:13:51 AM
Recently saw Escape from New York

What a great movie.  :metal
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 11, 2015, 10:17:31 AM
Andy Samberg's Hot Rod is one of the funniest films i've seen.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dark Castle on February 11, 2015, 11:27:25 AM
Andy Samberg's Hot Rod is one of the funniest films i've seen.
That movie is absolute gold
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on February 11, 2015, 12:11:31 PM
Last night I watched THX 1138. It was pretty good, but I fell asleep for small bits and pieces.

I first watched it years ago, back when regular network TV would show movies late at night, and that was my experience as well.  Pretty good, obviously a cool message in there somewhere, but I would doze off here and there so I'm not really sure.  Of course, this was after midnight and I was like 10 years old.

Years later (but still many years ago) I tried to watch it again, and the same thing happened.  I was captivated enough to want to keep watching, but since it's a "thinker" more than an action movie or anything, I kept dozing off.

In the 70's everybody had long hair.  Guys, girls, everybody, everywhere.  I thought it was weird that "in the future" people would reject that and pretty much shave their bodies completely.  When the 90's came and everybody started shaving everything everywhere, I recalled THX 1138 and its woeful prediction.  Chest hair, once a symbol of manliness, is now bad.  Facial hair, once a symbol of just plain awesome, is now bad.  Pubic hair, providing the last veil of mystery, is now bad.  I mean, dudes make appointments and pay money to have people shave their backs.  What the fuck, people?  Welcome to the future.


Recently saw Escape from New York

What a great movie.  :metal

True!


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Jupiter Ascending

My kids are kinda like me, only less cynical.  They'll watch movies and get great entertainment out of them when I find the whole thing stupid, but many times they've turned me on to movies which I had no interest in, based on the trailers, but which turned out to be pretty good.  Scott Pilgrim vs The World, cool concept, and I laughed much.  The Lego Movie, I laughed my ass off many, many times.  So I've learned to trust their judgement.

Anyway, my kids went and saw Jupiter Ascending and they both thought it sucked.  Not boring or stupid or because they didn't understand it, it just wasn't well done.  They started listing the reasons why it sucked, and I'm sure they could've gone on a while, but I had to stop them at some point and just thanked them for the non-recommendation.

So: Orbert's kids say Jupiter Ascending sucks, and they have both better taste and lower standards than me.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on February 11, 2015, 06:39:18 PM
In the 70's everybody had long hair.  Guys, girls, everybody, everywhere.  I thought it was weird that "in the future" people would reject that and pretty much shave their bodies completely.  When the 90's came and everybody started shaving everything everywhere, I recalled THX 1138 and its woeful prediction.  Chest hair, once a symbol of manliness, is now bad.  Facial hair, once a symbol of just plain awesome, is now bad.  Pubic hair, providing the last veil of mystery, is now bad.  I mean, dudes make appointments and pay money to have people shave their backs.  What the fuck, people?  Welcome to the future.

 :lol... well, I feel like recently there's been a huge resurgence in the facial hair thing. So much that it annoys me, especially because it became this weird hipster trend. I like it to a point, but I'm just not into those big, gross beards that are so popular, at least in Denver.
I support pube-trimming, but chest hair is sexy and fun to play with.

We now conclude this body hair PSA to bring you back to your regularly scheduled programming.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on February 11, 2015, 08:45:28 PM
Hairy bastard reporting for duty.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 12, 2015, 01:30:25 AM
Andy Samberg's Hot Rod is one of the funniest films i've seen.
That movie is absolute gold

But of course it didn't do well. Probably because it was mostly clean humour and actual jokes. Not like every "comedy" nowadays which is just filth and people screaming.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on February 12, 2015, 02:13:52 PM
Big Hero 6 was incredible. And that after credits scene... Holy shit.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on February 12, 2015, 02:19:35 PM
Big Hero 6 was incredible. And that after credits scene... Holy shit.

I must own it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 12, 2015, 02:28:23 PM
I support pube-trimming, but chest hair is sexy and fun to play with.
You're welcome.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: adace on February 12, 2015, 02:41:28 PM
Saw Jupiter Ascending last night. The plot did seem a bit muddled and cliched as many reviewers have pointed out, but the movie had some really cool ideas and, of course, incredible visuals. As far as space operas go, sure it's no Dune but I enjoyed it for what it is.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Fiery Winds on February 13, 2015, 09:41:19 AM
Just saw John Wick last night.  Fantastic movie. Very straightforward plot, but Keanu Reeves does a great job as a bad-ass on a mission. The visual style is very graphic novel-esque, and the soundtrack fits perfectly.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 14, 2015, 03:47:04 AM
Caught Fifty Shades of Grey with the wife last night.  Meh, it was better than the book (although less actual sex).  Overall, not that great, but it's gonna make a shit-ton of money - this weekend, at least.

More importantly, here's the trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3_gvBTjUhY) for Guillermo Del Toro's next film, Crimson Peak (October 2015).
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 14, 2015, 03:58:14 AM
I heard that there was a lot of sex stuff cut from the theatrical release of FSoG, which will be on the dvd or something. If anyone cares. I will probably check it out just to see what all the fuss is about.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 14, 2015, 04:02:30 AM
I heard that there was a lot of sex stuff cut from the theatrical release of FSoG, which will be on the dvd or something. If anyone cares. I will probably check it out just to see what all the fuss is about.
TBH, I think that a good director with more control could make a film that is SIGNIFICANTLY better than the novel (which featured some of the worst writing I've ever finished reading).  There are the bones of good ideas there, but they are delivered in a less than wonderful way, and the author wound up with creative control over the finished product of the film.

All in all, I think the director did the best she could with the situation.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 14, 2015, 04:40:53 AM
Caught Fifty Shades of Grey with the wife last night. 

Was it hiding in the cupboard ?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 14, 2015, 04:41:44 AM
I heard that there was a lot of sex stuff cut from the theatrical release of FSoG, which will be on the dvd or something. If anyone cares. I will probably check it out just to see what all the fuss is about.
TBH, I think that a good director with more control could make a film that is SIGNIFICANTLY better than the novel (which featured some of the worst writing I've ever finished reading).  There are the bones of good ideas there, but they are delivered in a less than wonderful way, and the author wound up with creative control over the finished product of the film.

All in all, I think the director did the best she could with the situation.


Pretty much how Mark Kermode summed it up.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 14, 2015, 04:51:02 AM
I don't know who that is, but he is apparently very wise.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 14, 2015, 04:57:00 AM
BBC Radio 5 & The Guardian Newspaper film critic.

Plays bass in a skiffle band too.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: lordxizor on February 14, 2015, 07:51:21 AM
Watched Neighbors last night.... meh. I really don't enjoy the "let's do drugs and swear constantly" kind of movies.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on February 14, 2015, 12:25:16 PM
Here's a short film that I co-directed (and acted/edited myself) for one of my current Film Studies courses at college. :) I'd love to know what you guys think! :tup

The assignment was to shoot a "five-shot scene" with two other classmates and then we each edited our own version of the scene with the same five shots. They each ended up being pretty different. :tup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5RgeILwKIU
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: orcus116 on February 14, 2015, 12:30:34 PM
I can't really comment too much because as a technical piece there isn't a lot of substance and it's just kind of there. That being said just regarding the setup it had better sound, lighting (being outdoors it better), and camera direction than most things I've seen coming from student filmmakers. The angles and framing could use some work although I liked the the Wes Anderson bookends but again this was just a short technical thing.

When are you planning on doing a feature, short or long?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on February 14, 2015, 12:36:27 PM
Link?

Yeah, I forgot it on accident at first. Already edited it back in, but here it is again! :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5RgeILwKIU

I can't really comment too much because as a technical piece there isn't a lot of substance and it's just kind of there. That being said just regarding the setup it had better sound, lighting (being outdoors it better), and camera direction than most things I've seen coming from student filmmakers. The angles and framing could use some work although I liked the the Wes Anderson bookends but again this was just a short technical thing.

When are you planning on doing a feature, short or long?


Oh I can understand that. The assignment was to shoot a five-shot scene of a simple action with two other classmates and then we each had to edit our own versions of the same scene. They all came out pretty differently. For example, I wanted to focus on how the character is struggling between his writing and the isolation that it's causing him, while one of my partners focused on how the character was going through writer's block. :)

That said, thank you for the compliments! :) I think we did the best we could under the circumstances, considering we had to film the whole thing outside of one of the class buildings in under an hour. But I do agree that the framing and angles could have been a bit better. One of the shots could have used more headroom, I think.

To answer your question, I'm not sure. I have to do two short narrative films, a documentary and an experimental film for this particular course, but I don't know if that fully counts. There's also a Film club here on campus that does short and feature length films too that I go to from time to time, but I haven't pitched anything there yet.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: orcus116 on February 14, 2015, 12:55:43 PM
What do they consider experimental?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 14, 2015, 03:07:47 PM
Watched Neighbors last night.... meh. I really don't enjoy the "let's do drugs and swear constantly" kind of movies.

 :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 14, 2015, 03:08:31 PM

Yeah, I forgot it BY accident at first. Already edited it back in, but here it is again! :)



Fixed.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on February 14, 2015, 11:25:46 PM
So helpful. I had no idea what he meant before that.

I was not a big fan of Neighbors either. It had some funny moments but I've mostly forgotten it by now (saw it in the theatre with my mom).
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: ozzy554 on February 14, 2015, 11:32:47 PM
Watched Neighbors last night.... meh. I really don't enjoy the "let's do drugs and swear constantly" kind of movies.

I do, but Neighbors is not the best of it's kind
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on February 15, 2015, 07:01:45 AM
BY accident

So helpful. I had no idea what he meant before that.

That one bugs me, too.  The difference between "by accident" and "on purpose".  Prepositions get no respect.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Sigz on February 15, 2015, 09:02:14 AM
More importantly, here's the trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3_gvBTjUhY) for Guillermo Del Toro's next film, Crimson Peak (October 2015).

I had no idea this was being planned, but now I'm super excited.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 15, 2015, 09:52:54 AM
Yeah, that looked really cool. Putting it up on my 2015-to-watch-list now.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on February 15, 2015, 10:03:32 AM
In the next little while, I'm gonna try to watch as many of the movies I haven't seen which popular opinion dictates I really should have. The likes of Goodfellas, Seven Samurai, It's a Wonderful Life, Bladerunner, etc.

Just watched 2001. I can appreciate why this is a classic, how innovative it was, why filmmakers in particular must respect it hugely, but holy fuck was that slow.

It also amazed me how much 2001 influence there was in Interstellar, thinking back on it. I'd read it was there, but didn't expect so much.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 15, 2015, 10:18:52 AM
In the next little while, I'm gonna try to watch as many of the movies I haven't seen which popular opinion dictates I really should have. The likes of Goodfellas, Seven Samurai, It's a Wonderful Life, Bladerunner, etc.

Of those, I've seen Blade Runner and Seven Samurai. I personally found Blade Runner very disappointing. Great atmosphere from the start, great setup, but I felt it didn't begin to live up to its premise.
Seven Samurai is a long movie, and it's been a while since I saw it, but I quite enjoyed that one.

I didn't like 2001 either. I found it to be overly self indulgent and pretentious. A second viewing after reading up on the movie didn't help.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 15, 2015, 10:22:19 AM
I think 2001 is really cool, despite being slow. Rather confusing though, towards the end.

The only one I've seen out of those listed over that is Seven Samurai. You have not experienced 'slow' until you see movies like that one, or Bicycle Thieves. I struggled to stay awake during this movie, but it was so difficult. It wasn't really bad though, strangely enough. Wages of Fear and Citizen Cane are the only two of those old-timey movies that had a bearable pace.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on February 15, 2015, 11:03:05 AM
BY accident

So helpful. I had no idea what he meant before that.

That one bugs me, too.  The difference between "by accident" and "on purpose".  Prepositions get no respect.

Sorry, it was a brain fart on my part. I'm just kinda annoyed that what I typed out is what ultimately got more discussion than the actual short film I posted with it. :(

I think 2001 is really cool, despite being slow. Rather confusing though, towards the end.

The only one I've seen out of those listed over that is Seven Samurai. You have not experienced 'slow' until you see movies like that one, or Bicycle Thieves. I struggled to stay awake during this movie, but it was so difficult. It wasn't really bad though, strangely enough. Wages of Fear and Citizen Kane are the only two of those old-timey movies that had a bearable pace.

Fixed. :tup

But I'm going to disagree with you, at least on Seven Samurai. It's pretty well-paced, considering it's a three-hour long plus epic, in comparison to something like Bicycle Thieves, which is roughly the same length as an average film.

As for 2001 and Citizen Kane...

In the next little while, I'm gonna try to watch as many of the movies I haven't seen which popular opinion dictates I really should have. The likes of Goodfellas, Seven Samurai, It's a Wonderful Life, Bladerunner, etc.

Of those, I've seen Blade Runner and Seven Samurai. I personally found Blade Runner very disappointing. Great atmosphere from the start, great setup, but I felt it didn't begin to live up to its premise.
Seven Samurai is a long movie, and it's been a while since I saw it, but I quite enjoyed that one.

I didn't like 2001 either. I found it to be overly self indulgent and pretentious. A second viewing after reading up on the movie didn't help.

I have to agree with Blob for the most part. 2001 is insanely overrated. It's brilliant as a sheer technical piece of filmmaking, much like Citizen Kane, but both films lack a real 'soul' to them, I think. It takes over an hour for you to even meet the supposed main protagonist of 2001, because Kubrick is more interested in going meta and having humanity as a whole species somehow take the lead of the film. Meanwhile Kane tries to go pretentious by never really letting the audience see Kane himself from his perspective, instead through the eyes of various different people.

It annoys me because I feel like they get everything mixed up. Films like Rashomon, Ikiru or There Will Be Blood often get compared to Kane because of how they either approach a similar concept (how the truth is influenced by personal bias) or the journey of a person's life. But all three films do these things in much more interesting ways than Kane ever did.

Take Rashomon for example: Instead of having the film focus on various events of one man from multiple people, it's multiple different people all telling a different story of how one particular event happened exactly. Stranger still, the first three people tell their version in a way that makes themselves look guilty. The bandit wants to die in infamy of defeating a mighty samurai, the wife wants to claim that her husband's death was a freak accident that she caused and the samurai's spirit says he committed seppuku to die with honor and restore his dignity. Oddly enough, by going over the same scene over and over again we learn more from the characters than we ever do in Kane.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 15, 2015, 11:17:42 AM
But I'm going to disagree with you, at least on Seven Samurai. It's pretty well-paced, considering it's a three-hour long plus epic, in comparison to something like Bicycle Thieves, which is roughly the same length as an average film.

As for 2001 and Citizen Kane...

In the next little while, I'm gonna try to watch as many of the movies I haven't seen which popular opinion dictates I really should have. The likes of Goodfellas, Seven Samurai, It's a Wonderful Life, Bladerunner, etc.

Of those, I've seen Blade Runner and Seven Samurai. I personally found Blade Runner very disappointing. Great atmosphere from the start, great setup, but I felt it didn't begin to live up to its premise.
Seven Samurai is a long movie, and it's been a while since I saw it, but I quite enjoyed that one.

I didn't like 2001 either. I found it to be overly self indulgent and pretentious. A second viewing after reading up on the movie didn't help.

I have to agree with Blob for the most part. 2001 is insanely overrated. It's brilliant as a sheer technical piece of filmmaking, much like Citizen Kane, but both films lack a real 'soul' to them, I think. It takes over an hour for you to even meet the supposed main protagonist of 2001, because Kubrick is more interested in going meta and having humanity as a whole species somehow take the lead of the film. Meanwhile Kane tries to go pretentious by never really letting the audience see Kane himself from his perspective, instead through the eyes of various different people.

I agree that Citizen Kane felt a little sterile, although I still enjoyed that one. Having watched a lot of films from the era, I can easily see why it's considered a great movie on a technical level, but just as a movie, it's far from one of the better ones I've seen. Same with 2001. A landmark movie on a technical level, and hugely influential, but it feels like it focuses too much on showing off.
And I also recall Seven Samurai being pretty well paced for a movie of its length.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on February 15, 2015, 11:52:03 AM
More importantly, here's the trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3_gvBTjUhY) for Guillermo Del Toro's next film, Crimson Peak (October 2015).

I had no idea this was being planned, but now I'm super excited.

Hooly shit that looks awesome :caffeine:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on February 15, 2015, 09:29:21 PM
I have to agree with Blob for the most part. 2001 is insanely overrated. It's brilliant as a sheer technical piece of filmmaking, much like Citizen Kane, but both films lack a real 'soul' to them, I think. It takes over an hour for you to even meet the supposed main protagonist of 2001, because Kubrick is more interested in going meta and having humanity as a whole species somehow take the lead of the film.

The human race, where it came from, and where it is going, in Kubrick's hypothetical universe is the point of the film.  Dave Bowman is not the "main protagonist".  He is merely the character who provides the perspective through which we watch most of the film, because such films need such a character to ground it.  Dave Bowman is no more the protagonist than HAL 9000 or the monolith itself.

2001: A Space Odyssey is a science fiction film, and as with many if not most science fiction stories, it is really more an exploration of an idea than a story in the classic sense.  Usually filmmakers are interested in telling a story, but sometimes the goal of the film is not to tell a story, but to make a statement, explore one or more concepts, or experiment with the film medium itself.  2001: A Space Odyssey is such a film.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on February 15, 2015, 09:40:10 PM
I dunno, I guess I just like good stories. That movie completely bored me.

Though I think I was about 10 when I saw it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on February 16, 2015, 04:57:08 AM
I have to agree with Blob for the most part. 2001 is insanely overrated. It's brilliant as a sheer technical piece of filmmaking, much like Citizen Kane, but both films lack a real 'soul' to them, I think. It takes over an hour for you to even meet the supposed main protagonist of 2001, because Kubrick is more interested in going meta and having humanity as a whole species somehow take the lead of the film.

The human race, where it came from, and where it is going, in Kubrick's hypothetical universe is the point of the film.  Dave Bowman is not the "main protagonist".  He is merely the character who provides the perspective through which we watch most of the film, because such films need such a character to ground it.  Dave Bowman is no more the protagonist than HAL 9000 or the monolith itself.

2001: A Space Odyssey is a science fiction film, and as with many if not most science fiction stories, it is really more an exploration of an idea than a story in the classic sense.  Usually filmmakers are interested in telling a story, but sometimes the goal of the film is not to tell a story, but to make a statement, explore one or more concepts, or experiment with the film medium itself.  2001: A Space Odyssey is such a film.

And believe me, I understand that. I have no aversion to films that are more about exploring concepts or being experimental with the film medium than telling a story. I just think that 2001 fails to do that well. It pales in comparison to films like, say, Ingmar Bergman's Persona in that regard.

Again, I respect 2001 on a technical level. It is in many ways a brilliant film. But the elements that I find to be most important, it lacks in. Severely.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on February 16, 2015, 06:44:15 AM
I watched a movie over the weekend called The Joy Luck Club. I didn't really like it, but it was a great movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 16, 2015, 07:01:58 AM
I didn't really like it, but it was a great movie.
Goddammit Chino
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on February 16, 2015, 07:41:52 AM
I didn't really like it, but it was a great movie.
Goddammit Chino

What?! Was it a bad movie?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 16, 2015, 07:44:38 AM
Read what you wrote.  How does that make sense?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on February 16, 2015, 07:52:42 AM
It was a great movie. It made me feel all kinds of feels. It had really good acting, cool music, and a lot of cultural stuff that was different and interesting to look at. But I didn't really see the point of the movie. I mean, we got to learn the life stories of the three women the girl's recently deceased mother was friends with, but that was about it. At no point was I ever really sucked in. I never found myself wondering what was next. It was kind of like sitting on a bus and overhearing a few people talking about their lives. I could get off the bus before they finished and it wouldn't really bother me. I'd probably be content never seeing the movie again even though it was a very well made. Not to mention, half of the movie was in Chinese. I didn't really know what was going on (from a dialogue standpoint) most of the time.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 16, 2015, 08:01:51 AM
Not to mention, half of the movie was in Chinese. I didn't really know what was going on (from a dialogue standpoint) most of the time.

Do you mean that weren't able to feel the dialogue because it wasn't in your own language, or are you saying that you sat through a movie with half it's dialogue in chinese without subtitles and literally didn't know what was going on?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on February 16, 2015, 08:18:01 AM
Not to mention, half of the movie was in Chinese. I didn't really know what was going on (from a dialogue standpoint) most of the time.

Do you mean that weren't able to feel the dialogue because it wasn't in your own language, or are you saying that you sat through a movie with half it's dialogue in chinese without subtitles and literally didn't know what was going on?

The movie had no subtitles and I literally didn't know what was going on.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 16, 2015, 08:47:23 AM
Well, then I completely understand not really getting into the movie. But it just makes me wonder why you sat through it at all. After noticing that a lot of dialogue was going to go right by me, I would have either got some subtitles, or if that wouldn't be worth it, or if it wasn't an option, I would just stop watching it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on February 16, 2015, 08:50:34 AM
Well, then I completely understand not really getting into the movie. But it just makes me wonder why you sat through it at all. After noticing that a lot of dialogue was going to go right by me, I would have either got some subtitles, or if that wouldn't be worth it, or if it wasn't an option, I would just stop watching it.

It was girl friend's choice on Valentines Day (it's cool, I got her to watch Joe Dirt for the first time). She was filling me in during the parts I couldn't understand. Still not the same as hearing every word coming out of their mouths.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: senecadawg2 on February 16, 2015, 09:13:31 AM
More importantly, here's the trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3_gvBTjUhY) for Guillermo Del Toro's next film, Crimson Peak (October 2015).

I had no idea this was being planned, but now I'm super excited.

Looks a bit scary for me, but I'll probably try to see it anyways. El Orfanato is still one of my favorite movies ever, and I don't even like horror much. GDT knows what he's doing.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 16, 2015, 09:55:44 AM
(it's cool, I got her to watch Joe Dirt for the first time)
I would rather watch a movie where I didn't know what the hell was going on.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on February 16, 2015, 10:04:40 AM
I have to agree with Blob for the most part. 2001 is insanely overrated. It's brilliant as a sheer technical piece of filmmaking, much like Citizen Kane, but both films lack a real 'soul' to them, I think. It takes over an hour for you to even meet the supposed main protagonist of 2001, because Kubrick is more interested in going meta and having humanity as a whole species somehow take the lead of the film.

The human race, where it came from, and where it is going, in Kubrick's hypothetical universe is the point of the film.  Dave Bowman is not the "main protagonist".  He is merely the character who provides the perspective through which we watch most of the film, because such films need such a character to ground it.  Dave Bowman is no more the protagonist than HAL 9000 or the monolith itself.

2001: A Space Odyssey is a science fiction film, and as with many if not most science fiction stories, it is really more an exploration of an idea than a story in the classic sense.  Usually filmmakers are interested in telling a story, but sometimes the goal of the film is not to tell a story, but to make a statement, explore one or more concepts, or experiment with the film medium itself.  2001: A Space Odyssey is such a film.

And believe me, I understand that. I have no aversion to films that are more about exploring concepts or being experimental with the film medium than telling a story. I just think that 2001 fails to do that well. It pales in comparison to films like, say, Ingmar Bergman's Persona in that regard.

Again, I respect 2001 on a technical level. It is in many ways a brilliant film. But the elements that I find to be most important, it lacks in. Severely.

Okay, I get that.  I hadn't really thought about it that way, but think I agree with you.  Even as I'm watching the film and admiring the sets, the concepts, the cinematography, etc., I'm kinda bored and wish it would get to the next scene.

When it first came out, I watched it a few times and had no idea what was going on.  Well, other than the basic story of a guy on a ship and the computer goes nuts and tries to kill him, etc.  The opening sequence with the apes, no idea.  Digging up the monolith on the moon and the sound, no idea.  All the stuff at the end, no idea.  But it looked amazing, and I could tell there was some serious high concept, so I figured I just didn't get it.  I was like 10 at the time, so there's that, too.

Then I read the book, which explains in narrative what Kubrick was trying to present purely visually, and I got it.  The next time I watched the film, I was blown away.  Wow, all that concept, such an incredible story, and it all flew past me!  Suddenly the film was a masterpiece.

But it can be argued that you shouldn't need to read the book to understand the film.  If you watch a film more than once and still have no idea what the hell's going on, then read a book and it all becomes clear, then there's a good chance that the filmmaker didn't do a good job presenting the concept.

And now, I actually can't watch the movie.  It has almost no replay value for me because it moves so slowly and I already know what's going to happen, and why, and what it all means, so watching it unfold in slow motion is no longer interesting.  I tried recently when I got a Blu-ray player and was all psyched to watch it in Hi-Def and be blown away.  I had to force myself to finish it.

I guess part of me still remembers being amazed by it all, and I forget that really, it's a pretty boring movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on February 16, 2015, 10:06:51 AM
(it's cool, I got her to watch Joe Dirt for the first time)
I would rather watch a movie where I didn't know what the hell was going on.

Oh c'mon. Joe Dirt is a fun movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 16, 2015, 11:11:54 AM
(it's cool, I got her to watch Joe Dirt for the first time)
I would rather watch a movie where I didn't know what the hell was going on.

Oh c'mon. Joe Dirt is a fun movie.
I'm glad you like it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on February 16, 2015, 11:21:21 AM
Any movie with Jaime Pressly, Brittany Daniels, and Christopher Walken is a good time.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 16, 2015, 11:31:16 AM
I'm glad you like it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on February 16, 2015, 03:00:23 PM
Read what you wrote.  How does that make sense?
Eh I get what he means. I feel the exact same thing about Tarkovsky's Solaris.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: ReaPsTA on February 16, 2015, 04:18:52 PM
(it's cool, I got her to watch Joe Dirt for the first time)
I would rather watch a movie where I didn't know what the hell was going on.

Because then you can pretend you're watching a good movie?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 17, 2015, 04:38:54 AM
(it's cool, I got her to watch Joe Dirt for the first time)
I would rather watch a movie where I didn't know what the hell was going on.

Because then you can pretend you're watching a good movie?
I could at least imagine the possibility.  Rather than the actuality of watching Joe Dirt.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on February 17, 2015, 05:45:21 AM
Read what you wrote.  How does that make sense?
Eh I get what he means. I feel the exact same thing about Tarkovsky's Solaris.

It's like the band Tool. Tool is really good. I respect their talent as musicians. I give them credit for the band's longevity. That being said, I've never once thought to myself "I'm in the mood to listen to some Tool".
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Calvin6s on February 17, 2015, 06:52:31 AM
Oh c'mon. Joe Dirt is a fun movie.

I second that.  Dopey comedy is great.  A good laugh can sometimes feel as healthy as a quick walk or a nice glass of water.  It just seems to expel the tension in record time.

X O X O

Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 18, 2015, 10:42:54 AM
Just got back from The Theory of Everything. It was great, as so many has said before, and I completely understand and agree with the Oscar nomination. Captivating performances, mostly, obviously, by Eddie Redmayne. And it's not often I give props to the sound-guys from movies, but when they deserve it they deserve it, and the sound was really good here. Just something I couldn't help but noticing, especially during the fireworks. I don't think I have heard better fireworks in a movie.

I would probably say that The Immitation Game is a slightly better movie though. But it was quite difficult to decide. The ending of The Immitation Game packed more of an emotional punch or explosion, while The Theory of Everything was a slower emotional burn throughout the whole thing. Which worked wonders for both, I just think TIG was slightly better overall.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: seltaire on February 18, 2015, 12:05:24 PM
I recently watched Snowpiercer. Wow, what a masterpiece. I'm not too familiar with Korean films like Oldboy, etc. so the violence made me flinch, but it managed to make an overtired concept like a post-apocalyptic futuristic world seem incredibly interesting and fresh. 10/10.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on February 18, 2015, 03:34:50 PM
I wouldn't call myself an expert on Asian film, but I recently started breaking down my own silly barriers of only watching movies in English (or in rare occasions Swedish) to start watching more foreign films. To me the subtitle part is not really different from any other occasion, because even with English I tend to have subtitles. I know the language, but it's great in case you pick up a few new words or you don't hear a specific line.

But yeah, there are a lot of great Asian films. Oldboy, I Saw the Devil, Infernal Affairs, The Man From Nowhere, Sympathy For Lady Vengeance and Sympathy For Mr. Vengeance, just to name a few.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Outcrier on February 18, 2015, 04:02:34 PM
Much love for Asian movies, especially the old stuff. Nothing beats Japanese cinema circa 1950-1960.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on February 18, 2015, 07:36:05 PM
Much love for Asian movies, especially the old stuff. Nothing beats Japanese cinema circa 1950-1960.

Akira Kurosawa, man. :metal That said, I personally feel that his best film was 1985's Ran. Talk about an awe-inspiring film! :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Outcrier on February 18, 2015, 07:56:48 PM
Kurosawa alone already is a statement to the greatness of that era but there was other great directors such as Kobayashi, Mizoguchi and Ozu, to say a few.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on February 18, 2015, 08:03:56 PM
Kurosawa alone already is a statement to the greatness of that era but there was other great directors such as Kobayashi, Mizoguchi and Ozu, to say a few.

Very true. Harakiri is a pretty fantastic film, for example. :tup

BTW, it was just announced that Neill Blomkamp is directing the next Alien film! :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 18, 2015, 10:20:58 PM
I like Japanese movies, but it's mostly modern scifi/gore movies. So much fun. :lol

I'll pretty much watch anything from any country if it has a robot in it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on February 19, 2015, 12:47:44 AM
https://variety.com/2015/film/news/new-alien-movie-confirmed-at-fox-with-director-neill-blomkamp-1201436551/

 :metal
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Accelerando on February 19, 2015, 02:26:00 AM
I'm very ok with this directing choice, and I'm also glad this is the route they are going with, and not a second Prometheus film
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Outcrier on February 19, 2015, 02:29:22 AM
Nice, it will be quite a challenge for him.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 19, 2015, 03:24:17 AM
Well the second Prometheus movie is coming as well, and I am very much looking forward to that, as I really enjoyed the first one.

I am also a big Alien fan, so this new Alien movie is sure exciting news.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on February 19, 2015, 03:29:08 AM
I still don't think we'll ever get a new Prometheus. But if it does indeed come out, I'm intrigued. The first Prometheus was visually mindblowing and I love the world it takes place in. It fell on the goal-line because the script had many issues, and the concept behind the black goo was way more complicated than it needed to be, but still an overall good movie I'd say. It could have been amazing, so it's a shame it had those problems.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 19, 2015, 03:38:49 AM
I really hope we get it. But it's currently slated for a 'spring 2016' release. Which is soon only a year left, with the script still being worked on.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 19, 2015, 03:40:25 AM
I still don't think we'll ever get a new Prometheus. But if it does indeed come out, I'm intrigued. The first Prometheus was visually mindblowing and I love the world it takes place in. It fell on the goal-line because the script had many issues, and the concept behind the black goo was way more complicated than it needed to be, but still an overall good movie I'd say. It could have been amazing, so it's a shame it had those problems.

Prometheus looked beautiful and is fun to watch and was amazing on the big screen. The script let it down though but I can forgive it one of those elements.

Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 19, 2015, 03:44:31 AM
I'm hoping Alien 5 takes place after Aliens and disregards both Alien 3 and Resurrection.

Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on February 19, 2015, 03:58:02 AM
Yea Prometheus didn't sit well with me, cool concept and visuals but the script and some characters were cringe worthy at times. I LOVE the Alien universe and after the brilliant Alien: Isolation I can't wait for a proper new Alien movie. I really liked both District 9 and Elysium so hopefully he can make the franchise justice.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 19, 2015, 04:08:42 AM
I didn't mind Elysium. I thought the story felt rushed and a bit simple though.

The sub plot with the President of Elysium who was the Kelvin captain in Star Trek 2009 - seemed to go nowhere and to me it felt like they wrote it just to

have a B story. Nice visually though !
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 19, 2015, 04:39:40 AM
I'm hoping Alien 5 takes place after Aliens and disregards both Alien 3 and Resurrection.
I can get on board with this.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 19, 2015, 04:50:54 AM
I don't really mind Alien 3, it has it's charm. Resurrection however is just garbage, although it has the best alien design of the four original movies.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on February 19, 2015, 04:59:07 AM
I'm hoping Alien 5 takes place after Aliens and disregards both Alien 3 and Resurrection.

That's a definite possibility, I think. Blomkamp's concept artwork for the film included an image of Ripley with a battle-scarred Corporal Hicks. :tup
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on February 19, 2015, 05:11:25 AM
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Scott is producing both films through his production company Scott Free.

I find this interesting, so Ridely will have a say in both movies then. Don't know if that really means anything but it's interesting.


Btw just realised that Sigourney is in Neils upcoming movie Chappie and the same day that they confirmed Neils involvement in the new Alien, Sigourney appared on Jimmy Fallon talking about the new Alien....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uFJGg_GKts

Coincidence? I think not....
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on February 19, 2015, 05:45:19 AM
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Scott is producing both films through his production company Scott Free.

I find this interesting, so Ridely will have a say in both movies then. Don't know if that really means anything but it's interesting.


Btw just realised that Sigourney is in Neils upcoming movie Chappie and the same day that they confirmed Neils involvement in the new Alien, Sigourney appared on Jimmy Fallon talking about the new Alien....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uFJGg_GKts

Coincidence? I think not....

Agreed. She's definitely coming back, though the real question is whether it'll be as the original Ripley or her clone? I'm figuring they'll eject Alien 3 and Resurrection from the canon and have this be set 30-plus years after Aliens. It'd fit in with how Ridley Scott seemed to be treating the other Alien films in regards to his canon for Prometheus, as the viral media stuff he did for the Weyland Corporation had references to Aliens (i.e. the mech suit) but nothing beyond that.

That said, the concept art of her in a Space Jockey/Alien suit might indicate it's the clone Ripley and is continuing her connection with the xenomorphs. We'll see, I guess.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on February 19, 2015, 07:00:04 AM
I thought Prometheus had some great concepts and clearly some of it was precursor to the events and biotechnology in the Alien movies, so I was looking forward to the follow-up and seeing how it connects.  I still hope to see that.  But another film set after the events of the original Alien films could also be cool in the right hands, and these could be the right hands.

So prequels and sequels to a movie franchise that all started with a single film that was meant to be standalone in the first place.  What does that remind you of?




(https://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131110205354/terraria/ru/images/9/91/Luke-skywalker-noooooo.jpg)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 19, 2015, 07:05:32 AM
Alien >>>> A New Hope.

Prometheus > > > > > The Phantom Menace.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 19, 2015, 07:22:41 AM
Alien >>>> A New Hope.
I find myself unshocked that you would post that.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 19, 2015, 07:51:57 AM
^ I agree though. A New Hope is pretty dull. Alien is a slow movie as well, but at least it's supposed to be.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dream Team on February 19, 2015, 08:32:40 AM
Excited by this news, but also noticed on the front page of IMDB that they're making a Pirates of the Caribbean 5.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on February 19, 2015, 08:46:15 AM
I don't see why they wouldn't, those things make tons of money.

Although I didn't think the last one was very good.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on February 19, 2015, 09:03:23 AM
Penelope Cruz was absolutely MUCH easier on the eyes than Keira Knightley ever was, and the plot with Blackbeard and the Fountain of Youth was a really great idea.   But ya, the execution of that idea was pretty half-baked.   

I still loved both 2 and 3 much, MUCH more than most people did, so I'm not ready to throw in the towel on a series that has given me 3 truly enjoyable films and one dud.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on February 19, 2015, 09:22:20 AM
I just watched Goodfellas.

I'm largely oblivious to the obsession with stories about gangsters and the crime underworld. The characters are mostly an assortment of assholes and awful human beings, and not of a kind that I see any appeal in exploring. And it irritates me how most of the movies are so... entranced by the lifestyle. To make a movie about gangsters, it has to be three hours long, an extremely comprehensive "we must document everything we can because it's so fucking interesting" affair and/or a biographical "rise and fall of an absolute piece of shit, but goddamn ain't he fascinating to watch" one. This movie epitomises both of these characteristics, and I just don't buy into the fetish, so I didn't like it very much.

Before anyone says, "then why watch gangster / crime stories then?": there are a few exceptions where I loved them. The Departed was incredible because, although it was long, and very slightly falls into the tendency of "let's just stew in this world", it's intensely focussed on a plot that is so much tighter, more interesting and more fast-paced than "the forty-year long rise and fall of Asshole J". Breaking Bad worked because of the way it takes an everyday figure, and for that matter an utterly pitiful one, someone from well outside that world, who shouldn't have lasted five minutes in it, in whose case his initial motivation for getting into it is completely understandable, and shows him adapting and growing into it, and because of his origins, you can actually sympathise with him as he does. It took that biography concept I hate and made me love it.

But movies like Goodfellas are the reason I've never given, for example, Chinatown, The Usual Suspects, Heat, and Once Upon a Time in America a chance. Or The Sopranos, for that matter.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on February 19, 2015, 09:31:45 AM
You hit the nail on the head for me as well.   I've never seen The Godfather for that reason.   I saw Scarface when I was younger, and I just don't get it.  I actually felt like a worse human being for watching it.    I generally hate the entire idea of making a hero out of a criminal.   I will never watch Dexter for that same reason. 

But The Godfather has become such a cultural phenomenon, that I may one day break down and give it a whirl.   I'm not terribly optimistic.   
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 19, 2015, 09:32:14 AM
Alien >>>> A New Hope.
I find myself unshocked that you would post that.

I find myself even more un-shocked that other people would have a reaction to another person's opinions and tastes on an online forum.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 19, 2015, 09:33:42 AM
You hit the nail on the head for me as well.   I've never seen The Godfather for that reason.   I saw Scarface when I was younger, and I just don't get it.  I actually felt like a worse human being for watching it.    I generally hate the entire idea of making a hero out of a criminal.   I will never watch Dexter for that same reason. 

But The Godfather has become such a cultural phenomenon, that I may one day break down and give it a whirl.   I'm not terribly optimistic.

One day I watched every Godfather movie. I loved part I and II as I recall but couldn't finish part III as it really bored me.

I haven't revisited them in like 10 years.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 19, 2015, 09:44:18 AM
https://variety.com/2015/film/news/new-alien-movie-confirmed-at-fox-with-director-neill-blomkamp-1201436551/

 :metal

Throw me in the camp of being excited for this. I think this guy is going to nail it....based on his original idea for a follow up to Aliens it appears that he 'gets' it when it comes to this story and what the fans would like to see. I can't wait to see what happens with it.



I'm hoping Alien 5 takes place after Aliens and disregards both Alien 3 and Resurrection.
I can get on board with this.

Same here.

I still don't think we'll ever get a new Prometheus. But if it does indeed come out, I'm intrigued. The first Prometheus was visually mindblowing and I love the world it takes place in. It fell on the goal-line because the script had many issues, and the concept behind the black goo was way more complicated than it needed to be, but still an overall good movie I'd say. It could have been amazing, so it's a shame it had those problems.

I think it'll happen....and I'll watch when it does come out. I agree with the sentiment here that Prometheus was a cool looking movie....had some interesting concepts but just missed by a hair when it came to the characters and execution of the story. But I like the 'Alien' world so much that I'll watch whatever they release. I've seen them all and enjoyed them all to some extent so....count me in for whatever comes out.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 19, 2015, 09:57:43 AM
Chinatown, Heat, The Usual Suspects, and The Godfather are among the greatest films ever made.  I don't know that I would say they glorify the criminal lifestyle, either, like Scarface definitely did, and Goodfellas did to a certain extent.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on February 19, 2015, 10:27:22 AM
I kinda felt the same way about Goodfellas.  I thought it did a good job of exploring the lifestyle, even glamourized it, but overall most of the characters -- including Ray Liotta and Joe Pesci, who I'm assuming we're supposed to like --  were pretty much scumbags and I didn't actually like them at all.  By the end of the movie, I was almost glad it was over, but I found the ending itself pretty unsatisfying, so that left me with mixed feelings overall.  Mixed negative feelings, though.

On thought Scarface was similar.  He was a detestable person, and while the acting performance was great and the movie was technically very good, I have no desire to see it again because I can't think of a reason to subject myself to it.  Why sit and watch someone you hate for two hours?

The Godfather, on the other hand, is one of my favorite movies of all time.  I've always felt that it does an excellent job of exploring that kind of life without glamorizing it at all.  The characters are, within the world in which they have found themselves and/or been born into, honorable men and live by a certain code.  They are businessmen and family men and in general always try to do the right thing.  In fact, one of the recurring themes is that in a way, they are more honorable and trustworthy than the corrupt system in which they work.  They're certainly better than the cops and politicians.  Vito Corleone, from the moment he set foot in America to the day he died, was always trying to make things better for his people (the Italian immigrants) and his family in particular.  How he was forced to achieve that because of how America treated him, was largely beyond his control.

Michael Corleone started as a very good, honorable man and became a monster by the end of the second film.  How that happens is, to me, the main point.  And the third film, while lacking some of the punch of the first two, is to an extent about his redemption, such as it is, and also about how one can never truly escape one's past, and one's past deeds.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on February 19, 2015, 10:53:31 AM
I've never seen the Godfather, Casino (dunno if that's gangster), or Scarface. I've seen Goodfellas a few times. I really like the first 90 minutes or so of that movie. After that, I feel like it falls flat and gets a little boring. Jow Pesci saves that movie IMO.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 19, 2015, 10:55:39 AM
OK, everyone that hasn't seen The Godfather just go do it now.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on February 19, 2015, 10:56:39 AM
How dare you tell me what to do!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on February 19, 2015, 11:06:03 AM
There's no excuse for watching a movie like Avatar 500 times and not seeing The Godfather even once.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on February 19, 2015, 11:08:14 AM
The Godfathers fall largely into the description I gave, but as Orbert says, they work because they contrast the rise story of the arguably honourable Vito, who got involved in crime genuinely for the good of his family and people, with the fall of the (eventually) disgusting Michael, who is completely narcissistic, not doing it for his family at all, and in fact alienates and drives his family away. I always think of the scene after his house is shot up and he's raging and he says "they came to my house, where my family sleep", etc, and you can tell he's pissed because they dared to attack his family, not that they dared to attack his family. Putting the two stories together is what makes those films watchable. Though despite my respect for them relative to most others, I don't know if I feel the need to ever watch them again.

@jammindude: Scarface isn't the best benchmark to judge them from, because it's the genre at its most revolting. While these movies are normally enthralled by it all, I felt Scarface blatantly pornographised being an absolute cunt of a human being, and the lifestyle. The fact that that movie and character seems to be the one with the most popular appeal just makes it even worse. I had a flatmate at uni with the poster on his wall, who would imitate and quote the dude.

Actually, I think a good part of the reason I've never liked either De Niro or Pacino much as actors is because their careers are so built on performances in these kinds of movies.

For the record, my favourite crime film is City of God (Cidade de Deus). Though that's Brazilian, so even though it's kind of also an example of the documentary fascination with the crime world, it's doing it within a completely different crime culture, one of total poverty and desperation, one you couldn't possibly polish. There's no glorification, and the only thing that ever really "rises" is the violence and the breakdown of society.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on February 19, 2015, 11:11:49 AM
I'm one of the rare moviegoers that's not into Mafia movies.  My cousin is s nut for them but I just never really liked them and that includes the biggies named.  Just not my cup of tea.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 19, 2015, 11:16:42 AM
Never seen any of those kinds of movies. The genre just doesn't appeal to me, as great as I'm sure they are if you're into that kind of thing.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Lucien on February 19, 2015, 11:38:34 AM
Recently rewatched Tron: Legacy. Brilliant film.

Not exactly a movie, but I'm about to perform in the pit orchestra for the amazing musical Into the Woods every day of next week.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on February 19, 2015, 11:42:04 AM
I'm jealous.  I love playing in pit orchestras.  The musical is great, the players are top-notch, and there's just nothing like the rush of the show.  There's nothing like show biz.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on February 19, 2015, 11:42:19 AM
Recently rewatched Tron: Legacy. Brilliant film.


Good flick. I liked that one a lot.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 19, 2015, 11:48:18 AM
Recently rewatched Tron: Legacy. Brilliant film.


Good flick. I liked that one a lot.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: masterthes on February 19, 2015, 12:11:57 PM
About the Pirates movies: 4 was atrocious, although I thought the idea of Barbossa playing for the other team was a compelling idea. I hated that they gave him a pegleg though. Might as well give him an eye-patch in the next one. And 3 was a grower on me. First time watching it, I thought it was too long, but after repeat viewings, I'm used to the length.

Blomkamp is a perfect fit for a new Alien movie. Bring it on!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 19, 2015, 12:19:01 PM
The only Pirates of the Caribbean film I liked was the first one.  They got more ridiculous as they went.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on February 19, 2015, 12:21:15 PM
The only Pirates of the Caribbean film I liked was the first one.  They got more ridiculous as they went.

I feel the same.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on February 19, 2015, 12:27:43 PM
I thought they were all ridiculous, and I really liked the first three. The last one was kind of boring, though.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dark Castle on February 19, 2015, 12:29:10 PM
I like the 1st and 2nd the most.
I've grown to like the 3rd more but I still feel at times it's just way to ridiculous.
The 4th seems to go with the silliness and is a lot more fun so I don't mind it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on February 19, 2015, 12:36:27 PM
I didn't mind the first Pirates movie. The second was maybe a point and a half lower than the first. The third movie was really boring. I walked out during that scene (what felt like an eternity) where the two guys were fighting on the rolling water wheel.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dream Team on February 19, 2015, 12:48:27 PM
https://variety.com/2015/film/news/new-alien-movie-confirmed-at-fox-with-director-neill-blomkamp-1201436551/

 :metal

Throw me in the camp of being excited for this. I think this guy is going to nail it....based on his original idea for a follow up to Aliens it appears that he 'gets' it when it comes to this story and what the fans would like to see. I can't wait to see what happens with it.



Hopefully he will recapture the haunting, horrifying, constant-sense-of-dread atmosphere that the original had - not to mention Giger's original design, which goes without saying.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 19, 2015, 01:27:42 PM
Dead Man's Chest is my favorite Pirates movie. On Stranger Tides is my least favorite. It is almost impressive how bad that one is.

I have seen and own all three Godfather films, but I don't love them. They were good and interesting, but I wouldn't put them as highly as the movie community in general.

Tron: Legacy is a really fun movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on February 19, 2015, 04:47:12 PM
I am also one of those silly willys who has never watched a Godfather movie. I just have no interest in them whatsoever outside the fact they're highly acclaimed.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on February 19, 2015, 04:52:08 PM
The last time I watched The Godfather I wasn't old enough to drink. I'm almost 30. I remember because it was on TV when my best friend and I were getting drunk in Daytona, and we started freaking out because the cops showed up to the hotel room next door.

I really hope Michael Biehn joins the new Alien movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dark Castle on February 19, 2015, 04:53:56 PM
Last time I watched The Godfather I was like a junior and high school and I watched it with my dad. My dad likes watching those kind of movies with me, he's got a deep italian/Sicilian/German heritage so he really likes those kinds of movies and as such I like em too.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: KevShmev on February 19, 2015, 04:54:40 PM
You hit the nail on the head for me as well.   I've never seen The Godfather for that reason.   I saw Scarface when I was younger, and I just don't get it.  I actually felt like a worse human being for watching it.    I generally hate the entire idea of making a hero out of a criminal.   I will never watch Dexter for that same reason. 

But The Godfather has become such a cultural phenomenon, that I may one day break down and give it a whirl.   I'm not terribly optimistic.

I don't think anyone would call any character in Goodfellas or any of the Godfather movies a hero.

Also, while Goodfellas is definitely a movie about the mafia, the Godfather movies were more or less about a family that was in the mafia.  Call it semantics, but there is a difference.

Characters like Dexter Morgan, Tony Soprano and Walter White were considered anti-heroes.  It's a testament to the amazing acting of Michael C. Hall, James Gandolfini and Bryan Cranston that those three characters were all fairly likable, despite all being pretty terrible human beings. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on February 19, 2015, 06:05:15 PM
And I might just be arguing semantics (or the term could be more broad than I'm familiar with), but to me, "anti-hero" is more about someone who really is accomplishing something good, but he resents being placed on the pedestal of **HERO**.     Not someone who has simply found a way to compromise human morals because they think they have an excuse to do so.   (thinking specifically of Dexter at the moment, but it could be argued that Breaking Bad is along the same lines...and I get that that's heresy for those who love the show)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: KevShmev on February 19, 2015, 08:12:54 PM
Okay, but I don't need the main character in a drama to be the hero, the guy you just have to root for.  Great writing is great writing, and a great story is a great story.  And often times, a hero is written to be such a great person that their flaws are seemingly non-existent.  Take Russell Crowe in Gladiator for example.  A deeply flawed main character is often times more interesting, simply because they are more complex and interesting to watch.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dark Castle on February 19, 2015, 08:32:14 PM
I love love love Studio Ghibli movies sooooooo much
:hearts:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on February 19, 2015, 08:50:31 PM
Spirited Away and Kiki's Delivery Service are absolute masterpieces. :heart
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on February 19, 2015, 08:59:11 PM
Spirited Away and Kiki's Delivery Service are absolute masterpieces. :heart

My girlfriend just bought KDS.

I personally don't care for animes.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on February 19, 2015, 09:00:27 PM
My Neighbor Totoro is fantastic as well.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dark Castle on February 19, 2015, 09:01:30 PM
Spirited Away and Kiki's Delivery Service are absolute masterpieces. :heart

My girlfriend just bought KDS.

I personally don't care for animes.
You should at least care for ones from Ghibli Studios.

Princess Mononoke, Howl's Moving Castle, and Spirited Away are like my jaaaaaaaaam along with their other ones.( Them be my 3 favorite yoooooooooooooooo)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The King in Crimson on February 19, 2015, 09:15:06 PM
I am also one of those silly willys who has never watched a Godfather movie. I just have no interest in them whatsoever outside the fact they're highly acclaimed.
I've never seen them either. I'm not a big mafia-movie fan, but that's not really the reason I haven't seen them. At a certain point, all the hype turns into a kind of barrier for entry. After hearing how amazing they are for years and years, can they really match up with the expectations? Meh, I'm sure I'll get around to seeing them eventually, but there're so many other movies I've never seen that I'd rather watch.

Spirited Away and Kiki's Delivery Service are absolute masterpieces. :heart

My girlfriend just bought KDS.

I personally don't care for animes.
You should at least care for ones from Ghibli Studios.

Princess Mononoke, Howl's Moving Castle, and Spirited Away are like my jaaaaaaaaam along with their other ones.( Them be my 3 favorite yoooooooooooooooo)
Mononoke and Nausicaa are my favorites.

Totoro is also way more enjoyable than it has any right to be.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on February 19, 2015, 09:51:35 PM
Good point KiC...but there have been several times when I was very skeptic of a "classic" on entry, and I've often found that really great movies will stand on their own merits.

One of the first examples I can think of was the Charlie Chaplin film City Lights.   I remember being curious as to whether a silent movie could still hold up in the modern age.      I.....laughed...my...ass...off.     That experience opened up my mind to a lot of movies.   Some classics were just OK, but the really great ones (Cool Hand Luke was another) hold their own.   

A great movie is a great movie.   Period. 

Ben Hur as a whole was just OK, but the famous chariot race scene lived up to the hype and then some.   I never would have imagined in a million years that an action scene from 1960 would be one of the most amazing things I've ever seen, but it was.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The King in Crimson on February 19, 2015, 10:11:51 PM
Good point KiC...but there have been several times when I was very skeptic of a "classic" on entry, and I've often found that really great movies will stand on their own merits.
Oh I agree, but it can be hard to get over that initial hump no matter how irrational it is.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Accelerando on February 19, 2015, 11:33:28 PM
Recently rewatched Tron: Legacy. Brilliant film.

Love that movie, and the soundtrack is quite exceptional.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Accelerando on February 19, 2015, 11:48:45 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen.....Aquaman


(https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/tremontidood/ScreenShot2015-02-19at104638PM_zps08a7557f.png)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dark Castle on February 20, 2015, 01:17:23 AM
Grave of the Fireflies  :'(
That was some heavy stuff.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on February 20, 2015, 01:46:04 AM
I watched Django after Goodfellas. Dunno if it was just me, but having Schultz, an educated and fairly worldly European, take you through a film about pre-Civil War American slavery was a really cool idea. It made at least the first half of the movie, before you become accustomed to the character, feel pretty absurd, like one of those stories where a character from the 20th Century ends up in the 16th. I suppose you could dislike it for the same reasons, but I thought it was cool.

I was also really impressed with the clear divide between the “fun” Western violence, and the slavery-related stuff, which was always depicted horrifically. Both Tarantino and Schultz, and also Django, I think, got off on the bounty hunting and western gunfighting, but were sickened and unambiguously immensely critical of Candie and slavery. In fact, I think it was through the course of the film that Schultz realises how awful he finds it.

I thought this was by far the funniest Tarantino movie, though he abandons the comedy in the last half an hour. I didn’t really love how the ending played out so much. And were those guys at the end supposed to be Australian? I’m not positive how closely the timeline of Australian history resembles New Zealand’s, but I thought a bunch of Aussies in the American South before 1860 is REALLY stretching believability.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Lynxo on February 20, 2015, 02:53:00 AM
I love love love Studio Ghibli movies sooooooo much
:hearts:
A friend of mine introduced them to me recently. So far, we've watched Princess Mononoke, Howl's Moving Castle, Nausicaä of the valley of the wind and lastly Spirited Away. I was amazed by every one of those. What masterpieces! And I love analysing and discussing them.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 20, 2015, 02:56:57 AM
Aquaman looks cool. I don't know much about him in the comics, other than him usually being Hitler's wet dream dressed in orange and green. But this one looks cool, and I'm a fan of Jason Momoa, so hopefully it'll be good.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on February 20, 2015, 03:05:49 AM
Miyazaki's masterpiece is unquestionably Princess Mononoke, if you ask me. Speaking of Japanese cinema, I rented out Akira Kurosawa's Kagemusha and Red Beard for the weekend. I'll probably watch one of them tonight while enjoying my bottle of Black Tongue as a little birthday present for myself. #22years :metal :tup :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Outcrier on February 20, 2015, 03:30:15 AM
Love Red Beard, one of my top 10 movies  :hefdaddy

Ah, Godfather II too. In fact, i like all of the Godfather movies, even the third one.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 20, 2015, 04:51:58 AM
Ladies and Gentlemen.....Aquaman


(https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/tremontidood/ScreenShot2015-02-19at104638PM_zps08a7557f.png)
Yeah, I just saw this. 

Momoa as Aquaman and Affleck as Batman are the only things making me interested in this film right now.

Also, I don't fully understand all of the chronology in this thing, but I suppose it will be explained.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on February 20, 2015, 06:51:01 AM
I'm gonna be there opening night to watch Batman v Superman as any other fellow comic book geeks, but I have very little faith in anything that comes out of the DC cinematic universe, as long as it is being directed by visionary director & creative genius Zach Snyder.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 20, 2015, 09:52:35 AM
Maybe I won't be there opening night, but I'll definetely see it in theaters. And I rather liked Man of Steel, so I have faith. No outrageous amounts of it, but it's still there.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on February 20, 2015, 10:59:06 AM
Love Red Beard, one of my top 10 movies  :hefdaddy

Ah, Godfather II too. In fact, i like all of the Godfather movies, even the third one.

I'm excited to see Red Beard. I hear it's one of Kurosawa's more underrated masterpieces.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Accelerando on February 20, 2015, 02:02:30 PM
It just seems like they are taking all the right precautions and steps for Batman V Superman...pushing it's release back, hiring a hell of a writer to completely re-write the script, the casting choices, and let's not forget there's still a rumor that Batman V Superman was secretly shot as two part film, so that has yet to be confirmed. I remember Man of Steel just being rushed so that when the final Dark Knight film was finished, WB can start making their fantastical DC Universe. I can still look past Man of Steel's flaws and find it an enjoyable film. With BVS, it seems like Snyder is taking a step back to (finally) focus on story. 

Also, I don't fully understand all of the chronology in this thing, but I suppose it will be explained.

It's interesting to see what WB/DC are doing with these films...clearly they are not following the Marvel formula where they will have solo superhero films that will lead up to the eventual team-up movie ala Avengers. They are doing two team-up movies (BVS and Suicide Squad) before the big team up movie! I think they are establishing a universe where superheroes are already interacting with each other before the Justice League movies
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Calvin6s on February 20, 2015, 03:31:14 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen.....Aquaman

Never cared for Aquaman, but that looks pretty cool.  (Not a big comic book fan at all)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 20, 2015, 04:34:29 PM
It just seems like they are taking all the right precautions and steps for Batman V Superman...pushing it's release back, hiring a hell of a writer to completely re-write the script, the casting choices, and let's not forget there's still a rumor that Batman V Superman was secretly shot as two part film.

a. Every time I hear something new about Dawn Of Justice it sounds more and more like a train wreck.

b. I thought that was confirmed via some secret footage ?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on February 20, 2015, 04:37:14 PM
How do you know what you hear is true though.  Don't cast judgement until you see it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 20, 2015, 04:48:48 PM
It just seems like they are taking all the right precautions and steps for Batman V Superman...pushing it's release back, hiring a hell of a writer to completely re-write the script, the casting choices, and let's not forget there's still a rumor that Batman V Superman was secretly shot as two part film.

a. Every time I hear something new about Dawn Of Justice it sounds more and more like a train wreck.

b. I thought that was confirmed via some secret footage ?
And I thought that "confirmation" was confirmed to be a hoax.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on February 20, 2015, 04:49:46 PM
Don't cast judgement until you see it.

Have you been internetting long?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on February 20, 2015, 04:51:53 PM
How do you know what you hear is true though.  Don't cast judgement until you see it.

Well, this is true to an extent, but unless you're going to watch literally every movie that's ever released, you have to make judgments at some point.

Personally I don't really care about the S vs. B movie, but I'm not big on superhero stuff anyway.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Outcrier on February 21, 2015, 12:49:07 AM
Love Red Beard, one of my top 10 movies  :hefdaddy

Ah, Godfather II too. In fact, i like all of the Godfather movies, even the third one.

I'm excited to see Red Beard. I hear it's one of Kurosawa's more underrated masterpieces.

It's similar to Ikiru in themes (humanism, per example) but set in feudal Japan.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on February 21, 2015, 05:02:34 AM
Don't cast judgement until you see it.

Have you been internetting long?

I'm talking to one person about his lack of liking anything in this world.  Not the other 5 billion Kotowboy's  out one the interwebs.


How do you know what you hear is true though.  Don't cast judgement until you see it.

Well, this is true to an extent, but unless you're going to watch literally every movie that's ever released, you have to make judgments at some point.

Personally I don't really care about the S vs. B movie, but I'm not big on superhero stuff anyway.

Wut?!  This is true for any movie out there.  You make you're own decisions.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on February 21, 2015, 05:16:48 AM
I try to be as open-minded as possible with movies (or other things, like music) but I also feel like there is a difference in making up your mind beforehand, and reacting to news, but still seeing the movie with an open mind. In the day and age we live today, there's just so much more news about things, and we are there for the entire process of the movie making. 20 years ago it was very different. Today we get pictures leaked from sets, teaser trailers, 4-5 "real" trailers, interviews, people involved in the movie dropping nuggets, and so on.

These things usually get my gears going and the hype increases, or it can make me feel less excited about something. In most cases, if it's something I want to see, I will see it even if I react negatively to things I hear or see beforehand. I'm not AS stoked about the DC universe as Marvel for example, but I will still be there. There are a few exceptions, and one of them would be Transcendence. I was really hyped when I first heard about the movie. Good cast, Depp doing a normal role that wasn't goofy, Nolan's DP Walter Pfister directing, and an overall ambitious Sci-Fi concept. But after being very lukewarm on the trailers released, and hearing almost universal dislike for the movie, I still haven't seen it. And I probably never will. I kinda need some sort of optimism to get me going, or to give me energy. There's plenty of movies with mixed reception that I like, but when a movie has almost entirely negative opinions, and from people with similar tastes as myself, I just don't feel excited about it.

I do think slightly negative mindset going into a movie can help though. I rather go in with low expectations and get positively surprised, than to go in with high expectations and leave disappointed.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on February 21, 2015, 05:22:01 AM
But that still didn't stop you from seeing he movie.  Besides, you don't hate EVETYTHING like Kotowboy does. :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 21, 2015, 08:25:17 AM
But I don't have everything.





Where would I put it ? :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on February 21, 2015, 08:33:52 AM
Or Hate if I could type. :lol

I shall fix my failed joke. :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 21, 2015, 09:02:31 AM
But I dont hate everything.




Where would I put it ? :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 21, 2015, 03:21:22 PM
Just saw Kingsman. Fantastic!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 21, 2015, 04:02:48 PM
That film doesn't interest me at all :lol

I'd rather see SPECTRE.   :coolio
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on February 21, 2015, 04:50:39 PM
Just saw Kingsman. Fantastic!

That film doesn't interest me at all :lol

I'd rather see SPECTRE.   :coolio

I rest my case. :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 21, 2015, 05:09:55 PM
I don't want your case...





Where would I put it ? :neverusethis:





Why would I want to watch a film that isn't James Bond starring some chavvy little shit ?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The King in Crimson on February 21, 2015, 05:11:38 PM
Why would I want to watch a film that isn't James Bond starring some chavvy little shit ?
Because it might be entertaining?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on February 21, 2015, 05:34:26 PM
From the director of X-Men First Class who made a great movie with some fine actors in this new movie? 

Yeah it looks bad. Lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 21, 2015, 05:47:11 PM
Colin Firth was absolutely perfect for that role. It was an awesome time in the theater.

I also just saw Birdman. Holy shit, that is one of the most impressive movies I have ever seen in my life. Top of my 2014-movie list for sure, and probably pretty near the top of all time movies. I was a nervous wreck through pretty much the entire thing. Absolutely amazing.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on February 21, 2015, 05:52:12 PM
I watched the first half of Birdman last night.   (I'm a full time care-giver of my mother-in-law...she had issues that interrupted the movie, and we were unable to finish it last night...we'll finish it tonight)

So far, I notice right away is the *BEAUTIFUL* dialog.   I absolutely love movies with amazing word play and scripts.    The little tiny in-joke 'digs' at the acting lifestyle reminded me a lot of the same type of humorous digs in Shakespeare In Love (another movie that I absolutely LOVE because of the quick, sly, dry wit and clever wordplay). 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on February 21, 2015, 07:03:41 PM
I was a nervous wreck through pretty much the entire thing. Absolutely amazing.

Yeah, he definitely did that effectively... which is one of the reasons I wasn't as huge a fan of Birdman as everyone else seems to be. Don't get me wrong- it's extremely well done. I love Inarritu, I love the performances of all the actors, it's shot very well, etc... but still. I just don't get the hype, I guess. And the fucking music! I want to watch it again and give it a second chance- maybe if I'm not watching it in the theatre and it's not annoyingly loud it'll be more bearable.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on February 21, 2015, 07:33:04 PM
I love A scanner darkly

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/75/A_Scanner_Darkly_Poster.jpg)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on February 21, 2015, 10:30:21 PM
Just finished watching Birdman.

I want to start off by saying that it was a BRILLIANT movie.    But....    have you ever watched a movie, and felt like even though it was a brilliantly executed "rip-off" of a certain other artists style, the rip off was so blatant that you felt like the artist they ripped off should at least get *some* credit?   

I don't care if his name is nowhere to be found in the credits.   I dare you to watch this film and look me straight in the eye and tell me it was not a Terry Gilliam film.   Seriously.   My wife and I looked at each other during the rooftop scene, and had the exact same thought at the exact same moment.   Even the ending.     Terry Gilliam's influence is beginning to be felt on the next generation.   I just hope people acknowledge him, because the guy seriously hasn't been given the credit for as deeply influential he has been on the film industry. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Accelerando on February 22, 2015, 01:25:09 AM
The Academy Award ceremony is nearly here! Since the nominations were announced, I've been hearing movie fans, bloggers, and podcasters alike say that 2014 wasn't a very strong year. On the contrary, I think it was a strong year. I don't think there is a definite winner for the Best Picture category, although things are starting to point at Boyhood taking home the big award. While I don't agree with of the nominees in several categories, I can't help think that controversial picks are part of the charm of the Academy Awards....from Annie Hall getting the award over Star Wars to Forrest Gump over Pulp Fiction. All of them are great movies, but the charm  I speak of is that it brings us movie fans to together to argue passionately and share opinions over great movies.

I decided to draw up a quick list on who I think will win, and what should win in their respective categories:

Best Picture
Will: Boyhood
Should: Whiplash. Best movie out of the crop, but Boyhood will win

Best Actor:
Will: Eddie Redmayne. But it's going to be close with him and Michael Keaton.
Should: Eddie Redmayne.

Best Actress
Will: Julianne Moore
Should: Julianne Moore

Best Supporting Actor:
Will: J.K. Simmons. It's his to lose.
Should: J.K. Simmons

Best Supporting Actress:
Will: Patricia Arquette
Should: Meryl Streep......just kidding. That was a waste of a nomination. Patricia Arquette

Best Director
Will: Richard Linklater
Should: Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu

Animated Film
Will: How To Train Your Dragon 2
Should: The Lego Movie....wait, it wasn't nominated? Oh ok...well....Big Hero 6. But the Academy doesn't like Disney movies without them singing tunes, so it's going to HTTYD 2

Visual Effects
Will: Interstellar, but Dawn of the Planet of the Apes could upset
Should: Interstellar

Original Screenplay
Will: Birdman
Should: Nightcrawler

Adapted Screenplay
Will: The Imitation Game
Should: Whiplash

Original Score
Will: The Grand Budapest Hotel
Should: Interstellar

Original Song
Will: Glory from "Selma"
Should: Glory from "Selma", but Everything is Awesome from "The Lego Movie" is also nominated...soooo....

Cinematography
Will: Birdman
Should: Birdman

Film Editing
Will: Boyhood
Should: Whiplash

Sound Mixing
Will: American Sniper
Should: Whiplash

Sound Editing
Will: American Sniper
Should: American Sniper

Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on February 22, 2015, 02:38:15 AM
If Michael Keaton loses out on the best actor award to Eddie Redmayne I think people are gonna riot. It's a shame that Borehood will probably sweep half the awards. 12 YEARS IN THE MAKING
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 22, 2015, 03:20:24 AM
Boyhood was a great movie. But it has nothing on Birdman.

I hope I'll have time today to see Whiplash before the awards tonight.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 22, 2015, 05:10:17 AM
Looking forward to the ceremonies tonight.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 22, 2015, 05:13:47 AM
I have had a good time with movies in the last 24 hours. Like I said I saw Kingsman last night, which was great. Then I stayed up late and watched Birdman, and I thought I had found one of the best movies ever and best of 2014 for sure.

But I just saw Whiplash, and oh my god... #1 of 2014, hands down. There was no hesitating in putting it there.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on February 22, 2015, 07:49:51 AM
It would be so wonderful and delicious if Boyhood lost every award at the Oscars tonight. It won't, in fact it'll likely sweep everything, but it'd so great to see the better films actually win out.

At the very least, it doesn't deserve Best Picture, I think.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: ozzy554 on February 22, 2015, 08:41:03 AM
Just saw Kingsman. Fantastic!

Same here, I generally don't do this but this might be a first day buy for me when it comes out on blu ray.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on February 22, 2015, 08:58:15 AM
It would be so wonderful and delicious if Boyhood lost every award at the Oscars tonight. It won't, in fact it'll likely sweep everything, but it'd so great to see the better films actually win out.

At the very least, it doesn't deserve Best Picture, I think.

But it took 12 years to make!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 22, 2015, 09:40:13 AM
Harry Potter. Same actors for 10 years.

Fuck Boyhood. Even Linklater says that nothing happens in it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dimitrius on February 22, 2015, 10:04:30 AM
Boyhood will probably lose everything except Best Picture and they'll give it that just for the "achievement". Just like 12 Years a Slave won only Best Picture last year so you couldn't call Hollywood racist. :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 22, 2015, 11:02:52 AM
I don't get all the Boyhood "hate". There wasn't much happening sure, but it was a very personal, intimate, and emotional journey, and one of this years best movies. The '12 years to make' thing only helped it in that. I don't understand why that seems to be a problem for you guys.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 22, 2015, 11:04:05 AM
Mainly because everyone is banging on about the TWELVE YEARS TO MAKE instead of if the film is actually any good..



..and when they do mention the film it's usually " ehh well not much happens "
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on February 22, 2015, 11:05:36 AM
I don't get all the Boyhood "hate". There wasn't much happening sure, but it was a very personal, intimate, and emotional journey, and one of this years best movies. The '12 years to make' thing only helped it in that. I don't understand why that seems to be a problem for you guys.

Agreed. By this point, I've seen more contrarian hate for the praise the movie has received for that supposed reason as opposed to actual praise for the movie.

If some people didn't like it, that's cool, but I don't see the need for them to pin ulterior motives or reason on others who did enjoy the movie as them only liking it cause "it took 12 years to make".
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on February 22, 2015, 11:06:57 AM
It was a decent movie that shouldn't be nowhere near the top10 lists IMO. I like Linklater as a director, but this wasn't one of his best. The kid grows up to be kind of an unsympathetic douche, and pretty much all the teenager lines (once he gets to that age) sounds like a 50 year old man trying to write "hip" conversations that he thinks teenagers might have. I enjoyed the supporting performances, and I think Hawke and Arquette were both great. But the boy himself was kinda meh, and when the movie focuses on his journey and he doesn't work, then the movie loses a lot. Considering the gimmick of filming over 12 years, it is of course impossible to start with a young child and know for sure that he will be an awesome actor 12 years later. He was very okay.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on February 22, 2015, 11:30:14 AM
I want to see it again before I make a greater judgement. Moment for moment, it often didn't feel like I was watching an incredible film, but then I felt it conveyed a lot of really big, elemental stuff on a level that very few "his/her life journey" movies have.

Yeah, it was kind of mundane. There's only a vague sense of a narrative driving it, you're watching snippets of twelve years of the lives of ordinary people. But I felt like that might be something I would like about it upon repeated viewings. If it's meant to feel as much as possible like it portrays real people's lives, it SHOULD feel plotless. I loved that all of the main characters, the mother, father, and son, all have an idea of where their life is going, or where they want it to go, to some extent, but that everyone, no matter how smart or dumb or responsible or irresponsible or whatever, is ultimately just stumbling forward and working it all out as they go and hoping for the best. We only have so much power in being able to craft our own "plots".

I also really liked how the movie shows your childhood, and I suppose your whole life, is a combination of your own decisions and actions, and yourself being uncontrollably pulled along in and affected by the narratives of others.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on February 22, 2015, 11:39:26 AM
Also, I still need to see Birdman, and I have no desire to see Whiplash based on the trailer. "This teacher is a total asshole, and his horrible methods fuck the kid up, yet produce great results. Oh, and the asshole teacher is potentially moved to change his ways from the experience and stop being an asshole". No thanks, don't need to spend two hours of my life on that.

I also just rewatched The Lego Movie and Her, both of which I watched about a year ago in the cinema within a week of each other and was floored by, and that impression remains for both movies.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on February 22, 2015, 11:47:18 AM
Here's the thing: that "twelve years in the making" gimmick seems to be the only great thing I hear about Boyhood. As a result, I have to ask this question to its fans: "Would Boyhood still be such a great film if it had been made under normal conventions, with multiple actors playing the main character over the years?"

I don't care if it's "plotless." I said that last week to Orbert in regards to Kubrick's 2001. But there has to be something more to a film than how many years a director spent making it for me to find it to be a great film. By all means, Linklater's dedication to how long he spent making the film deserves praise, but that's something that's ultimately separate from the film itself.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on February 22, 2015, 12:17:58 PM
Here's the thing: that "twelve years in the making" gimmick seems to be the only great thing I hear about Boyhood. As a result, I have to ask this question to its fans: "Would Boyhood still be such a great film if it had been made under normal conventions, with multiple actors playing the main character over the years?"

If I read correctly, Fluffy and BlackInk have already expressed why they like the movie, even outside the whole 12 years thing, and I feel similar sentiments. It's one of the more human movies that I've watched from last year.

Using the same actor for those 12 years does make the connection stronger, definitely. Had it been directed under more normal conventions with different actors, I don't think it would be too bad a knock against it had it been done well. The whole 12 years things is cool and all, but I enjoyed it for what it actually was.

For the record, I'm surprised that the production process is seemingly the only praise you and many others have heard from it. This praise seems to be only common among professional critics to me. I've been around a couple boards and forums and I hear people singing its praises for various other reasons, such on those already expressed in this thread. Or maybe they're just a vocal minority, who knows. :corn
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on February 22, 2015, 12:19:26 PM
As a result, I have to ask this question to its fans: "Would Boyhood still be such a great film if it had been made under normal conventions, with multiple actors playing the main character over the years?"
No. The movie's about growing, maturing, living your life. For me, seeing the characters as portrayed by the very same actors and actresses the whole time actually doing those things across the film resulted in a particular resonance, a greater connection with them, their stories and the film's themes than I would have had otherwise.

How great of a film it actually is, though, I'm not sure, I haven't decided.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Jaffa on February 22, 2015, 12:47:32 PM
As a result, I have to ask this question to its fans: "Would Boyhood still be such a great film if it had been made under normal conventions, with multiple actors playing the main character over the years?"

Honestly, the way I see it, this kind of question is basically pointless.  If Boyhood was made under normal conventions, with multiple actors playing the main characters over the years, it would be a different movie.  That movie might suck, but that wouldn't mean anything about this movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 22, 2015, 01:10:56 PM
It was a decent movie that shouldn't be nowhere near the top10 lists IMO.

I have it as #10, a place it very much deserves in my opinion.

"This teacher is a total asshole, and his horrible methods fuck the kid up, yet produce great results. Oh, and the asshole teacher is potentially moved to change his ways from the experience and stop being an asshole". No thanks, don't need to spend two hours of my life on that.

See the movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on February 22, 2015, 01:52:15 PM
Another thing that kinda disappointed me with Boyhood was that it didn't feel cinematic. With movies like Birdman, Whiplash or Nightcrawler, there was a lot of great direction, neat atmosphere, creative shots and visually stunning parts, but Boyhood looked like a made for TV drama film. To me it didn't really have an interesting visual style to it. It felt kinda flat. Which surprises me, because Linklater usually does that part very well. One of my favorites of his is A Scanner Darkly, and that movie has a very unique look to it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on February 22, 2015, 02:03:49 PM
Here's the thing: that "twelve years in the making" gimmick seems to be the only great thing I hear about Boyhood. As a result, I have to ask this question to its fans: "Would Boyhood still be such a great film if it had been made under normal conventions, with multiple actors playing the main character over the years?"

I don't care if it's "plotless." I said that last week to Orbert in regards to Kubrick's 2001. But there has to be something more to a film than how many years a director spent making it for me to find it to be a great film. By all means, Linklater's dedication to how long he spent making the film deserves praise, but that's something that's ultimately separate from the film itself.

Regarding the underlined....   

I'm just curious, because I've heard this critique of 2001 before.  (one of my favorite OL reviews, Confused Matthew, hates it for this exact reason)     Does *all* film have to be a story-telling device with a "plot"?     Most are.  And I certainly am not advocating the idea that that should change.    But I also am willing to look at "film as art" and not demand that it absolutely must be a story-telling device with no exceptions.   Some films are just....art.     Would that approach change anything at all? 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The Trooper on February 22, 2015, 04:01:07 PM
As much as I loved Whiplash, it is only really good because of Simmons performance which is one for the ages. Do not get me wrong it  is a solid movie. Academy voters are fickle. I know a few that have votes. I was not impressed by Boyhood to be honest. Yeah yeah I get the 12 year thing. so what. I think the best movie is American Sniper but it will not win. I think it is between Birdman and Theory of Everything. With Birdman coming out on top. Keaton will win, Julliane Moore, Simmons are likely locks.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on February 22, 2015, 04:23:16 PM
I really liked Miles Teller in Whiplash also. I could definitely relate to his character, and he did a brilliant job IMO.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The Trooper on February 22, 2015, 04:31:47 PM
Me too. The kid will be a star. I just Think Simmons performance is so overpowering it kinda diluted the kids.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Podaar on February 22, 2015, 06:08:08 PM
Just saw Kingsman. Fantastic!

Same here, I generally don't do this but this might be a first day buy for me when it comes out on blu ray.

Just got home from seeing Kingsman with the Mrs. and Jr.. Holy balls, that was a funny and awesome film! I just can't get over some of the surprises and shocks of this movie  :lol

GO SEE IT, NOW!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on February 22, 2015, 09:19:18 PM
Really glad that Lady Gaga is doing this with some class.   She has a tendency to sortof "Madonna-ize" everything...so to see her play this totally straight so that you really don't notice anything but her voice is really refreshing. 

And you know what?   She's kinda cute when she's not dolled up like Peter Gabriel circa 1972.... 

EDIT:   I should clarify that I'm posting this in here because I figure that this is (for the moment) the temporarily official Oscars thread.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on February 22, 2015, 09:27:09 PM
Yeah she did very well on that performance.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: orcus116 on February 22, 2015, 09:33:10 PM
I understand the concept but the playoff music for speeches that go on too long will never not be rude as hell to me.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on February 22, 2015, 10:07:19 PM
Glad Birdman took it....but again...  Couldn't believe how much Terry Gilliam I saw in this movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on February 22, 2015, 10:09:13 PM
My three favourite movies (Birdman, Whiplash, Grand Budapest) at the Oscars all did pretty well, so I'm happy.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 22, 2015, 10:20:32 PM
I got 13 predictions right. I think all the appropriate movies got recognized to the right extent. Fun night, can't wait for all the movies to come in 2015.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 22, 2015, 10:26:45 PM
Best Actor Award was a joke....Keaton or Cooper should have taken it....not the twit that did.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on February 22, 2015, 11:19:24 PM
Best Actor Award was a joke....Keaton or Cooper should have taken it....not the twit that did.
Have you seen the movie?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on February 22, 2015, 11:25:41 PM
Thank God. Just... thank god. :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on February 22, 2015, 11:26:07 PM
 ???

Big ones aside, I'm really glad Ida won best foreign film and that Crisis Hotline: Veterans Press 1 won best doc short.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on February 23, 2015, 12:07:21 AM
Redmayne was good, but I think Keaton should have won it. He basically gave a "once in your career" performance, and the guy is in his 60s. Redmayne has a long career ahead of him, and I'm sure he will be in the talks for future movies as well.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 23, 2015, 01:28:54 AM
:tup

I plan on finally seeing Birdman this week.

After Best Director & Best Film - Keaton must have gotten a little extra excited ! Oh well.  I'm sure he can do well with his " Oscar Nominated " status for a while -

- as long as he doesn't pull a Nic Cage and just accept any old rubbish that comes along.

Glad Interstellar won best VFX.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 23, 2015, 04:50:07 AM
Best Actor Award was a joke.

Not even a little bit. Redmayne did a fantastic job, and deserved the award just as much as any of them. Redmayne was my official guess, but I was still hoping for Keaton a little bit.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on February 23, 2015, 08:20:02 AM
Redmayne was good, but I think Keaton should have won it. He basically gave a "once in your career" performance, and the guy is in his 60s. Redmayne has a long career ahead of him, and I'm sure he will be in the talks for future movies as well.

But the academy shouldn't be giving people Oscars because they're older and have never gotten one before (something they seem to do on the regular). Honestly, although Keaton did a great job I don't think this role was much of a stretch for him so I'm not incredibly impressed  :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zydar on February 23, 2015, 08:24:02 AM
After having seen (and loved) "The Theory of Everything" last weekend, I must say Redmayne was a great choice as winner.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on February 23, 2015, 08:24:28 AM
I still need to see it!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 23, 2015, 08:49:18 AM
I haven't seen The Theory of Everything, but every clip of Jupiter Ascending I've seen has demonstrated him chewing up scenes and spitting them out in classic Oldmanesque overacting, so I have a hard time equating that with a Best Actor nominee.

Not to say he isn't actually deserving, because, as I said, I haven't seen the film.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 23, 2015, 10:03:19 AM
Best Actor Award was a joke....Keaton or Cooper should have taken it....not the twit that did.
Have you seen the movie?

No, but I don't think I need to have seen it having seen the other two....knowing what Cooper and Keaon brought to the table. Even if Redmayne's performance was equal to what they did, which I'm sure it was good....IMO he doesn't deserve it.  Cooper has been nominated In back to back to back years...PROVING he's a super talented actor and Keaton is and always will be a fantastic actor who gave an incredible performance. I think they both got screwed. Just my opinion

Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 23, 2015, 10:34:49 AM
 I don't get how any of that makes it so that Redmayne 'deserves' it less.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 23, 2015, 10:38:10 AM
And once you're talking about what are regarded by the Academy as the 5 best performances of the year, they are really all deserving.  No one gets "screwed" at that level.  There can only be one winner, doesn't mean the other four are seen as being awful.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 23, 2015, 10:40:18 AM
Exactly, they're all great. Like I said, I was rooting for Keaton as well, but Redmayne was a great choice.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: senecadawg2 on February 23, 2015, 11:31:12 AM
Did other people really like Birdman? I thought it was really underwhelming and apart from its interesting use of long takes I didn't get much of anything out of it. Keaton was good, but this:
I don't think this role was much of a stretch for him so I'm not incredibly impressed  :lol

I am glad that Iñarritu won best director though, since he's directed another couple movies that I really liked and think he deserved more recognition for. Particularly "Amorres Perros" and "Babel"
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on February 23, 2015, 11:33:18 AM
Did other people really like Birdman? I thought it was really underwhelming and apart from its interesting use of long takes I didn't get much of anything out of it. Keaton was good, but this:
I don't think this role was much of a stretch for him so I'm not incredibly impressed  :lol

I am glad that Iñarritu won best director though, since he's directed another couple movies that I really liked and think he deserved more recognition for. Particularly "Amorres Perros" and "Babel"

I think Keaton deserved the Oscar more than Inarritu did.    At least Keaton's performance was original to himself.   
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 23, 2015, 11:42:52 AM
I don't get how any of that makes it so that Redmayne 'deserves' it less.

For me....if it comes down to 5 of them pretty much being 'equal' and giving solid performances....then career body of work and number of nominations should play a factor in deciding. I'll take your word for it that Redmayne was good.....but he's been 'good' once thus far.....Coopers been nailing performances for the past four years and Keaton has always been a good actor who just gave perhaps his best performance.....that's why I don't think Redmayne 'deserves' it. Not that he wasn't good...but that either Keaton or Cooper 'deserved' it more.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 23, 2015, 11:46:15 AM
I don't get how any of that makes it so that Redmayne 'deserves' it less.

For me....if it comes down to 5 of them pretty much being 'equal' and giving solid performances....then career body of work and number of nominations should play a factor in deciding.
I don't like this one bit.  It's the award for the 2014 movie season, it isn't a lifetime achievement award.  They are being nominated for that one role & performance, it doesn't matter what else they've done.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on February 23, 2015, 11:48:53 AM
I'm with gmillerdrake on this one.   

As many have pointed out, when you get to that level, *ALL* the performances were amazing.   So if we start from that premise, it's frustrating when upstart gets the award while a seasoned veteran with a history of amazing performances gets the shaft.   

Unless the upstarts performance truly blew the veterans out of the water, the award should go to the vets. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 23, 2015, 11:52:53 AM
And I'm with hef. These actors were nominated for their roles in Birdman, The Theory of Everything, and so on. If Cooper got the award last night because he did good stuff last year, or the year before that, it would almost ruin the entire thing for me and render the whole thing rather pointless.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 23, 2015, 11:54:28 AM
I'm with gmillerdrake on this one.   

As many have pointed out, when you get to that level, *ALL* the performances were amazing.   So if we start from that premise, it's frustrating when upstart gets the award while a seasoned veteran with a history of amazing performances gets the shaft.   

Unless the upstarts performance truly blew the veterans out of the water, the award should go to the vets.
Then why even allow the rookies to be nominated?  That doesn't make any sense.

No one got the shaft.  He just didn't win.  If this was the best performance of his life, sorry.  Them's the breaks.

Besides, Keaton hasn't exactly ever been known as Al Pacino.  I don't think I ever remember his being seriously considered for an Oscar before.  The kinds of films he has done in the past haven't really been Oscar-type films.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 23, 2015, 12:00:02 PM
If Cooper got the award last night because he did good stuff last year, or the year before that, it would almost ruin the entire thing for me and render the whole thing rather pointless.

Well.....they did give Denzel Washington an the Award for his role in Training Day as a consolation after being screwed for not getting it in for 'The Hurricaine'. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on February 23, 2015, 12:01:10 PM
Amazing acting no matter a first movie or an actor's 39th movie shouldn't matter at all.  The awards are subjective anyway.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 23, 2015, 12:04:45 PM
The awards are subjective anyway.

...and don't forget political....not only internally in Hollywood but also affiliation/views. There were many points that were trying to be made last night with the dolling out of awards...
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on February 23, 2015, 12:05:17 PM
I'm with gmillerdrake on this one.   

As many have pointed out, when you get to that level, *ALL* the performances were amazing.   So if we start from that premise, it's frustrating when upstart gets the award while a seasoned veteran with a history of amazing performances gets the shaft.   

Unless the upstarts performance truly blew the veterans out of the water, the award should go to the vets.
Then why even allow the rookies to be nominated?  That doesn't make any sense.

No one got the shaft.  He just didn't win.  If this was the best performance of his life, sorry.  Them's the breaks.

Besides, Keaton hasn't exactly ever been known as Al Pacino.  I don't think I ever remember his being seriously considered for an Oscar before.  The kinds of films he has done in the past haven't really been Oscar-type films.

Because sometimes, the upstarts *DO* blow the competition away.   I don't think anyone implied that we should just hand it to the vets without question.     But if all things are equal, THEN consideration should be given to performance history. 

Heath Ledger was an upstart, and in spite of his untimely death, I never had a question or hesitation about him getting a posthumous Oscar for The Joker.   It was simply ICONIC.   It was one of the most amazing performances I've ever seen put to film, and I believe history will put him *above* Darth Vader as the single most amazing villain in movie history.   #1 with a bullet, without question.   

But I don't think Redmayne's performance was *THAT* level of amazing.   
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on February 23, 2015, 12:06:24 PM
Yeah, let's not even worry about how the actors performed at all. Let's just find the oldest person who acted in a movie in the past year and give them Best Actor by default. That's a good system. Let's do that.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on February 23, 2015, 12:08:50 PM
Yeah, let's not even worry about how the actors performed at all. Let's just find the oldest person who acted in a movie in the past year and give them Best Actor by default. That's a good system. Let's do that.

I know you put this in green, but just to be clear, not one single person in this entire thread has implied that this should be the case in any way. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on February 23, 2015, 12:09:10 PM
The awards are subjective anyway.

...and don't forget political....not only internally in Hollywood but also affiliation/views. There were many points that were trying to be made last night with the dolling out of awards...

I just don't get my panties in a bunch.  How many times have we as fans gone, "I can't believe _____ Did not win best actor?!"

So I never get attached to the awards shows.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 23, 2015, 12:11:17 PM
Yeah, let's not even worry about how the actors performed at all. Let's just find the oldest person who acted in a movie in the past year and give them Best Actor by default. That's a good system. Let's do that.

I don't think that's what I implied. I simply said IF IT WERE ME and all things being equal between the 5 nominated actors I'd give the award to someone who has a proven track record over someone that very well might have just been lucky and landed the only role he could nail. Cooper and Keaton are PROVEN actors.....Redmayne isn't, That's why I'd have given it to either one of them over that dude......
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on February 23, 2015, 12:12:22 PM
Yeah, let's not even worry about how the actors performed at all. Let's just find the oldest person who acted in a movie in the past year and give them Best Actor by default. That's a good system. Let's do that.

I know you put this in green, but just to be clear, not one single person in this entire thread has implied that this should be the case in any way.
Well yeah, I'm joking/exaggerating a ton, but the point is the Oscars shouldn't be geared towards sparing the feelings of veterans. They should be given to the person who performed the best. Nothing else. If they were biased like that, it'd be disingenuous and I'd dislike the Oscars even more than I already do (although I was pleased with them this year).
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 23, 2015, 12:13:51 PM
The awards are subjective anyway.

...and don't forget political....not only internally in Hollywood but also affiliation/views. There were many points that were trying to be made last night with the dolling out of awards...

I just don't get my panties in a bunch.  How many times have we as fans gone, "I can't believe _____ Did not win best actor?!"

So I never get attached to the awards shows.

And I can't believe I'm even 'arguing' about this since I think the good majority of them are a bunch of narcissistic A-Holes who do nothing but kiss each others butts. I really just chimed in because I thought Keaton or Cooper deserved it more than the twit that won. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on February 23, 2015, 12:17:10 PM
Yeah, let's not even worry about how the actors performed at all. Let's just find the oldest person who acted in a movie in the past year and give them Best Actor by default. That's a good system. Let's do that.

I know you put this in green, but just to be clear, not one single person in this entire thread has implied that this should be the case in any way.
Well yeah, I'm joking/exaggerating a ton, but the point is the Oscars shouldn't be geared towards sparing the feelings of veterans. They should be given to the person who performed the best. Nothing else. If they were biased like that, it'd be disingenuous and I'd dislike the Oscars even more than I already do (although I was pleased with them this year).

I have said repeatedly that it should be based on performance first and foremost.    ONLY when the performances are essentially a "dead heat" should consideration be given to performance history.    It's fair because it's giving consideration for *consistency* over what could be a flash in the pan.     You're rewarding acting ability.    Does one amazing performance = a truly great actor?   If it was so amazing that it really did blow everyone else away, then fine.  The award *should* go to them.   But if it's being considered with a group because it was on an *****EQUAL LEVEL******  (I feel like I need to amplify this point, because everyone seems to be ignoring it), then consideration should be given to past consistency.    It should be factored into the decision.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on February 23, 2015, 12:18:01 PM
The awards are subjective anyway.

...and don't forget political....not only internally in Hollywood but also affiliation/views. There were many points that were trying to be made last night with the dolling out of awards...

I just don't get my panties in a bunch.  How many times have we as fans gone, "I can't believe _____ Did not win best actor?!"

So I never get attached to the awards shows.

And I can't believe I'm even 'arguing' about this since I think the good majority of them are a bunch of narcissistic A-Holes who do nothing but kiss each others butts. I really just chimed in because I thought Keaton or Cooper deserved it more than the twit that won.

Hell, I didn't even watch it. :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 23, 2015, 12:22:21 PM
You're rewarding acting ability.

Not really, it's about rewarding acting performances. Specific acting performances for a specific movie, for which the actor was nominated. Nothing else should matter.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on February 23, 2015, 12:28:49 PM
You're rewarding acting ability.

Not really, it's about rewarding acting performances. Specific acting performances for a specific movie, for which the actor was nominated. Nothing else should matter.

Ok, so to use a sport analogy, what should be the "tie breaker" in your opinion?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 23, 2015, 12:31:20 PM
Specific acting performances for a specific movie, for which the actor was nominated. Nothing else should matter.

I agree. But I don't think it's a secret that this isn't the case. There are other factors in place deciding who wins...... Cooper for example was never going to win that Award due to 'who' he was portraying and what his movie was about despite playing Kyle so well that even men who served with him and were actors in the movie had to remind themselves on set that it wasn't him....it was Bradly Cooper. Anyway, it'd be ideal for the award to go to the actor/actress who deserved it.....but it doesn't.....if that were the case then Naomi Watts would have won for 'The Impossible' and not Jennifer Lawrence....and I'm sure the list could go on and on of folks who were more deserving than those who actually won.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 23, 2015, 12:57:53 PM
Specific acting performances for a specific movie, for which the actor was nominated. Nothing else should matter.

I agree. But I don't think it's a secret that this isn't the case. There are other factors in place deciding who wins...... Cooper for example was never going to win that Award due to 'who' he was portraying and what his movie was about despite playing Kyle so well that even men who served with him and were actors in the movie had to remind themselves on set that it wasn't him....it was Bradly Cooper. Anyway, it'd be ideal for the award to go to the actor/actress who deserved it.....but it doesn't.....if that were the case then Naomi Watts would have won for 'The Impossible' and not Jennifer Lawrence....and I'm sure the list could go on and on of folks who were more deserving than those who actually won.
I don't believe your implications about Cooper's chances for a second.  He was just as deserving as anyone else.  If he was going to be blacklisted for it for any political reason (which was never going to happen), he wouldn't have even received a nomination.

Like, I don't even understand where this is coming from.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 23, 2015, 01:01:40 PM
Specific acting performances for a specific movie, for which the actor was nominated. Nothing else should matter.

I agree. But I don't think it's a secret that this isn't the case. There are other factors in place deciding who wins...... Cooper for example was never going to win that Award due to 'who' he was portraying and what his movie was about despite playing Kyle so well that even men who served with him and were actors in the movie had to remind themselves on set that it wasn't him....it was Bradly Cooper. Anyway, it'd be ideal for the award to go to the actor/actress who deserved it.....but it doesn't.....if that were the case then Naomi Watts would have won for 'The Impossible' and not Jennifer Lawrence....and I'm sure the list could go on and on of folks who were more deserving than those who actually won.
I don't believe your implications about Cooper's chances for a second.  He was just as deserving as anyone else.  If he was going to be blacklisted for it for any political reason (which was never going to happen), he wouldn't have even received a nomination.

Like, I don't even understand where this is coming from.

Well it's not from a source.....more off the general sentiment directed at American Sniper after it was released from the Hollywood folk. Maybe I'm way off......
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 23, 2015, 01:31:53 PM
Ok, so to use a sport analogy, what should be the "tie breaker" in your opinion?

What do you mean? (both sports and the meaning of the phrase 'tie breaker' is largely lost on me)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 23, 2015, 02:06:30 PM
The only tie-breaker is the choice of the individual voter.  Just like at the ballot box, you can only vote for one.

Some of you guys are overthinking this.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on February 23, 2015, 02:08:05 PM
Ok, so to use a sport analogy, what should be the "tie breaker" in your opinion?

What do you mean? (both sports and the meaning of the phrase 'tie breaker' is largely lost on me)

Well... in sports, if two teams are vying for a single playoff spot, and they have the same seasonal record, they have to make other considerations to decide who will go to the playoffs and who will stay home.   Like for instance, who had a better record within their own division...etc...etc..

The point being, if the performances are equal, what *other* considerations do you make to decide who wins...
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on February 23, 2015, 02:10:07 PM
The only tie-breaker is the choice of the individual voter.  Just like at the ballot box, you can only vote for one.

Some of you guys are overthinking this.

But you've just underlined my point.   The individual voters have to take certain things under consideration before casting their vote.   All things being equal, what does the voter take under consideration when he feels that performances are equally good?     

But I suppose you're right...at this point, we start getting into "Hollywood politics"...which is a dirty subject no one wants to get into.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 23, 2015, 02:29:26 PM
I wouldn't say we are getting into Hollywood politics.  That is a negative and conspiratorial view of the process.

It just so happens that more of the voters disagreed with your preferred winner.  That's it.  There's no more to it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 23, 2015, 03:11:03 PM
The point being, if the performances are equal, what *other* considerations do you make to decide who wins...

Well, they aren't equal, so it's a bit of an unrelated comparison. They may all be great, but they are different performances, which will always create a difference in opinions. The voters are human too, and will collectively prefer one over the rest.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 23, 2015, 03:47:31 PM
Big Hero 6.


Loved it.  :heart
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on February 23, 2015, 05:32:34 PM
Did other people really like Birdman? I thought it was really underwhelming and apart from its interesting use of long takes I didn't get much of anything out of it. Keaton was good, but this:
I don't think this role was much of a stretch for him so I'm not incredibly impressed  :lol

I am glad that Iñarritu won best director though, since he's directed another couple movies that I really liked and think he deserved more recognition for. Particularly "Amorres Perros" and "Babel"

Yeah, definitely. Amores Perros is one of my favorite movies  :heart :heart
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 25, 2015, 06:49:42 PM
https://uk.ign.com/articles/2015/02/26/blomkamps-alien-movie-will-ignore-alien-3-and-resurrection?utm_campaign=ign+main+twitter&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social


THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED TO READ.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on February 25, 2015, 06:53:39 PM
https://uk.ign.com/articles/2015/02/26/blomkamps-alien-movie-will-ignore-alien-3-and-resurrection?utm_campaign=ign+main+twitter&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social


THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED TO READ.

From the article...
Quote
It's a bit of a blow to fans of the sequels...

There were fans of the sequels??? 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 25, 2015, 06:59:27 PM
Haha. Alien3 and Resurrection were dire.

Would be amazing if he pulls off what Ridley Scott failed to.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The King in Crimson on February 25, 2015, 07:02:08 PM
Alien 3 really isn't that bad...
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 25, 2015, 07:03:22 PM
Alien 3 really isn't that bad...

It's better than Resurrection. But it's a huge drop off in quality from Aliens.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The King in Crimson on February 25, 2015, 07:06:11 PM
Alien 3 really isn't that bad...

It's better than Resurrection. But it's a huge drop off in quality from Aliens.
Truth. But then again, many movies would be a huge dropoff in quality after Aliens.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 25, 2015, 07:11:37 PM
Rank the Alien films ? 

Well if you insist ! :D

1. Alien
2. Aliens
3. Prometheus
4. Alien 3
5. Alien Vs. Predator
6. Alien Resurrection


Never seen AVP:R. No plans to.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 25, 2015, 07:27:56 PM
Alien 3 really isn't that bad...

It's better than Resurrection. But it's a huge drop off in quality from Aliens.

Even though 3 wasn't bad....IMO any ALIEN movie other than Alien and Aliens was just a waste.(save Prometheus) this idea of ignoring them is great in my eyes!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 25, 2015, 07:31:32 PM
As soon as the news broke that N. Blomkamp was directing a new Alien - I tweeted that I hoped he would ignore 3 & 4.

Great news for me !

Hell - great news for Aliens fans. I hope we get to see Sexagenarian Ripley & Hicks and maybe even Newt if the actress is still around ? :)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The King in Crimson on February 25, 2015, 07:35:48 PM
Rank the Alien films ? 

1. Aliens
2. Alien
3. Prometheus
4. Alien 3
5. Bea Arthur Naked
6. Alien: Resurrection
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on February 25, 2015, 07:36:50 PM
Rank the Alien films ? 

1. Aliens
2. Alien
3. Prometheus
4. Alien 3
5. Bea Arthur Naked
6. Alien: Resurrection

Wait a minute....where's the football helmet full of cottage cheese??
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 25, 2015, 07:37:42 PM
:| what
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on February 25, 2015, 07:38:41 PM
:| what

(psssst.....watch Airheads.  It's *really* freakin funny)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 25, 2015, 07:40:56 PM
Alien Resurrection is just ghastly. It's almost the antithesis of James' Cameron's Aliens.

Bright colours - No tension. Stupid Hollywood action movie cliche stereotype "badass" cast just dropping the F word every 10 seconds to sound cool.

The only believable aspect was Wynona Ryder playing a robot. Playing to her strengths :D

FUN FACT : The name of all the Androids in the Alien Franchise are alphabetical.

Alien : Ash

Aliens : Bishop

Alien Resurrection : Call

Prometheus : David.





(psssst.....watch Airheads.  It's *really* freakin funny)


I've seen it a while ago. A few times actually.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bl5150 on February 25, 2015, 07:43:56 PM
Wynona Ryder playing a robot. Playing to her strengths :D



Stole the show , she did.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 25, 2015, 07:44:36 PM
:| they grew you in a FUCKING lab. . .



 :facepalm: I hate that film so much.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on February 25, 2015, 07:45:44 PM
Yea...among the demands of The Lone Rangers  :lol are a football helmet full of cottage cheese and naked pictures of Bea Arthur. 

I need to see that movie again...   
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on February 25, 2015, 07:46:17 PM
I think the thing that makes me happiest about all of this is seeing my dad's reaction to all these different news reports. He's a HUGE fan of the first two films. These are two direct quotations from my dad when I told him this move: "Must stay calm. Must stay calm. Must..... aaaahhhhhhhhhh," and "If it totally erases the putrid, toxic-waste-like memory of both these cinematic abortions I will be forever grateful."

I've heard stories about his reaction to seeing Alien 3 at the midnight premiere with my grandmother (his mother-in-law). I dare say the only person in the world who probably hates A3 more than my dad is David Fincher himself. :lol He and I were both pretty disappointed by Prometheus too, though he was definitely far more bitter about it than I was.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: ozzy554 on February 25, 2015, 07:49:55 PM
I just find it funny that Alien Resurrection was written by Joss Whedon.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 25, 2015, 07:52:16 PM
I think the thing that makes me happiest about all of this is seeing my dad's reaction to all these different news reports. He's a HUGE fan of the first two films. These are two direct quotations from my dad when I told him this move: "Must stay calm. Must stay calm. Must..... aaaahhhhhhhhhh," and "If it totally erases the putrid, toxic-waste-like memory of both these cinematic abortions I will be forever grateful."

I've heard stories about his reaction to seeing Alien 3 at the midnight premiere with my grandmother (his mother-in-law). I dare say the only person in the world who probably hates A3 more than my dad is David Fincher himself. :lol He and I were both pretty disappointed by Prometheus too, though he was definitely far more bitter about it than I was.

Prometheus is not even that bad. Once the interwebz gets a hold of something and infects it a reputation - it's hard to let go of that.

I thought it was a fine film. It looked great, had good pacing and was acted well. It just had script problems.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on February 25, 2015, 07:55:26 PM
I think the thing that makes me happiest about all of this is seeing my dad's reaction to all these different news reports. He's a HUGE fan of the first two films. These are two direct quotations from my dad when I told him this move: "Must stay calm. Must stay calm. Must..... aaaahhhhhhhhhh," and "If it totally erases the putrid, toxic-waste-like memory of both these cinematic abortions I will be forever grateful."

I've heard stories about his reaction to seeing Alien 3 at the midnight premiere with my grandmother (his mother-in-law). I dare say the only person in the world who probably hates A3 more than my dad is David Fincher himself. :lol He and I were both pretty disappointed by Prometheus too, though he was definitely far more bitter about it than I was.

Prometheus is not even that bad. Once the interwebz gets a hold of something and infects it a reputation - it's hard to let go of that.

I thought it was a fine film. It looked great, had good pacing and was acted well. It just had script problems.

I agree with you for the most part (I think the script problems are just a bit too big though), but the issue that my dad had with the film was how it was essentially one big marketing ploy, cashing in on the Alien fanbase and doing everything in its power in the trailers and commercials to make it feel like an ALIEN prequel, only to not have much of anything to do with it. He felt that if Ridley Scott wanted to make a new sci-fi story about the origins of "God," he should have done it without dragging ALIEN into it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: countoftuscany42 on February 25, 2015, 08:51:37 PM
I think the thing that makes me happiest about all of this is seeing my dad's reaction to all these different news reports. He's a HUGE fan of the first two films. These are two direct quotations from my dad when I told him this move: "Must stay calm. Must stay calm. Must..... aaaahhhhhhhhhh," and "If it totally erases the putrid, toxic-waste-like memory of both these cinematic abortions I will be forever grateful."

I've heard stories about his reaction to seeing Alien 3 at the midnight premiere with my grandmother (his mother-in-law). I dare say the only person in the world who probably hates A3 more than my dad is David Fincher himself. :lol He and I were both pretty disappointed by Prometheus too, though he was definitely far more bitter about it than I was.

Prometheus is not even that bad. Once the interwebz gets a hold of something and infects it a reputation - it's hard to let go of that.

I thought it was a fine film. It looked great, had good pacing and was acted well. It just had script problems.

I agree with you for the most part (I think the script problems are just a bit too big though), but the issue that my dad had with the film was how it was essentially one big marketing ploy, cashing in on the Alien fanbase and doing everything in its power in the trailers and commercials to make it feel like an ALIEN prequel, only to not have much of anything to do with it. He felt that if Ridley Scott wanted to make a new sci-fi story about the origins of "God," he should have done it without dragging ALIEN into it.
I do still like Prometheus, but this is my biggest problem with it.  script and logic problems aside, they kept setting it up with all these throwbacks to Alien as if it were a prequel, but it doesn't even take place on the same planet  :facepalm:
I would have preferred it much more if they just went one way or the other, either full-on Alien prequel or no connection whatsoever. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on February 25, 2015, 09:11:15 PM
Some of the *marketing* people may have tried to force the tie-in...but everything I heard from the man himself was that he kept trying to get everyone to cool their jets.   

Interview after interview, I continually heard him trying to distance the film from being an actual Alien prequel....   I mean, I'm paraphrasing but what I always heard was along the lines of "Ya...it exists in the same universe, but people getting their panties in a bunch thinking it's an actual Alien prequel are going to be incredibly disappointed."
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 25, 2015, 09:14:31 PM
I once was on a popular afternoon drive radio show here in StL and people called in for about half an hour to try and 'stump' me with questions from 'ALIENS'. I answered all correctly. I've seen that movie multiple hundreds of times and If challenged could probably recite it line for line.....


Really looking forward to this project.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on February 25, 2015, 11:58:50 PM
BTW....

Just re-watched St. Vincent. 


Ya, the whole movie has a bit of a "feel good" vibe around it, but Bill Murray's performance was SO good.    The movie was actually quite touching, and Murray's accurate portrayal of a stroke victim (I feel) put this movie on another level.

There was buzz of Oscar when this movie was released...so how did it get *completely* ignored when it came Oscar time????
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on February 26, 2015, 12:55:06 AM
https://uk.ign.com/articles/2015/02/26/blomkamps-alien-movie-will-ignore-alien-3-and-resurrection?utm_campaign=ign+main+twitter&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social


THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED TO READ.
:lol and I thought you guys were crazy for suggesting that, not the idea but that they ever would have the guts to do something like that. Sounds refreshing even though I never had problems with 3 and 4 like many others.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 26, 2015, 02:45:39 AM
1. Aliens
2. Alien
3. Prometheus
4. Alien vs. Predator
5. Alien 3
6. Alien: Resurrection
7. Alien vs. Predator: Requiem

I never hated that first AvP movie, I actually thought it was quite enjoyable. And both AvP movies have the best Alien-designs of all the movies, they look awesome. That didn't really help in making Requiem any better though, but still one posetive at least.

As for Resurrection. The scene where the scientist is hanging on the wall and narrating the birth of the Newborn, I always thought it felt like something out of a Monty Python sketch. So that's more or less how I see that movie these days; as one big joke. Viewing it like that actually does make it better, or at least more enjoyable in a funny way.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on February 26, 2015, 03:17:52 AM
1. Alien
2. Aliens
3. Alien 3
4. Alien: Resurrection
5. Prometheus

Let me put it like this, I was more annoyed by Promethues than A:R therefor the low score, I could stand A:R and was pretty entertained by it but the quality from both Alien and Aliens was long gone unfortunately.

Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on February 26, 2015, 03:32:34 AM
1. Aliens
2. Alien
3. Alien 3
----
----
4. Prometheus
5. Alien Resurrection
6. Alien vs Predator
7. Alien vs Predator Requiem
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 26, 2015, 03:36:49 AM
Good news about Blomkamp ignoring the dreck of Alien 3 & 4.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 26, 2015, 04:39:43 AM
Good news about Blomkamp ignoring the dreck of Alien 3 & 4.

It is. It could have so easily gone the other way and been a direct sequel to Resurrection.

Or worse - he could have attempted a Genisys style reboot and redo and do a time travel Aliens copy.

Doing a direct sequel to Aliens is the right idea.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on February 26, 2015, 05:41:44 AM
Quote
Over the years, I came up with a story for a film in that universe that I wanted to make. And then when I talked to her about her experience making those films and what she thought about Ripley and everything else, it informed and changed the film I wanted to make into something different. It just sort of stuck with me. A year later, when post-production was winding down on ‘Chappie,’ I started fleshing out the idea for a film that would contain Sigourney. Fox never knew. I just worked on it when I could. Before I knew it, I had this really awesome film with a lot of artwork and a lot of backstory. And then I didn’t know whether I was going to make it or not. So I just kind of sat on it for a while.
He clearly has an epic vision for the movie and wants to do it so i'm all for it. Wasn't both Fincher and Jeunet both picked up by the production company and one even hesitated about directing?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on February 26, 2015, 05:57:50 AM
Good news about Blomkamp ignoring the dreck of Alien 3 & 4.

It is. It could have so easily gone the other way and been a direct sequel to Resurrection.

Or worse - he could have attempted a Genisys style reboot and redo and do a time travel Aliens copy.

Doing a direct sequel to Aliens is the right idea.

Hilariously enough, those are both exactly what the diehards at AVP Galaxy want the film to be. In fact, it being a direct sequel to Resurrection is currently winning at the polls there for what type of new Alien film they want to see.

I do think it'd be possible to make a good sequel to A:R, but it'd be very difficult to pull off and do so in a way that'll actually appeal to the general fanbase. All things considered, doing a direct sequel to Aliens is definitely the best option to go with, I think.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 26, 2015, 06:09:16 AM
Quote
Over the years, I came up with a story for a film in that universe that I wanted to make. And then when I talked to her about her experience making those films and what she thought about Ripley and everything else, it informed and changed the film I wanted to make into something different. It just sort of stuck with me. A year later, when post-production was winding down on ‘Chappie,’ I started fleshing out the idea for a film that would contain Sigourney. Fox never knew. I just worked on it when I could. Before I knew it, I had this really awesome film with a lot of artwork and a lot of backstory. And then I didn’t know whether I was going to make it or not. So I just kind of sat on it for a while.

This sounds great. Points added in the hype and faith departments.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 26, 2015, 06:12:48 AM
Someone else said it's weird that he's kind of promoting this whilst Chappie is just out.

Over excitement ? Hype ? Lack of faith in Chappie ?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on February 26, 2015, 06:15:44 AM
They could probably come up with a way to have Alien 3 and resurrection cannon, without disregarding them completely. Considering Ripley in Resurrection was a clone, what if she wasn't the first? What if, sometime between Aliens and Alien 3, something happened. Maybe the shuttle that crash landed on the prison planet was a clone sent to Weyland/Yutani headquarters and it happened to get off course and end up somewhere else, and maybe the "real" shuttle is still out there. I don't know, they could probably do something. I really like Alien 3, but I don't mind it if they disregard both and just follow Aliens. I understand why.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 26, 2015, 06:18:20 AM
Well considering that Alien 4 was full of Ripley clones it's not a huge stretch.

But seeing as Prometheus was badly received - I think the best thing to do is *not* do another offshoot and plant it firmly in Aliens territory.

Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on February 26, 2015, 06:47:00 AM
Saw this on reddit:

Quote
Alien 3 is a nightmare that Ripley has while she's in cryosleep. And she really was impregnated with an Alien. But it was detected before she was unfrozen and they kept her in stasis until it was removed. She's going to wake up 28 years later in Blomkamp's film. Newt will be an adult. And the Earth is infected with Aliens.
Aliens: 28 Years Later!
I lol:ed

Btw Ron Perlman, just sayin.....
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 26, 2015, 07:05:50 AM
He's not in the "greatest"' movies. . .

Hellboy being a possible exception.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on February 26, 2015, 07:20:22 AM
Someone else said it's weird that he's kind of promoting this whilst Chappie is just out.

Over excitement ? Hype ? Lack of faith in Chappie ?
Dunno if it's just me, but the Chappie promotion seems fairly quiet from where I am. None of the trailers have hugely spoken to me either, so I have a vibe maybe there's a reason for it. My expectations for it have slumped a fair bit.

Not to be that guy, but I don't really get why people have quite so much faith in Blomkamp. The guy has two movies to his name. District 9 was fucking incredible. Elysium, as much as I wanted to love it, started okay and ended awfully. And Chappie ain't looking crash hot, though I'd love to be proven wrong.

I'll take everyone's word for it that this particular Alien announcement speaks well for him though. I'm completely indifferent to the Alien franchise. They weren't bad movies, but I got such an 80s vibe from them, I just couldn't enjoy them very much. I don't think I'll even watch this when it comes out. But it's nice people into the franchise are getting exactly what they want, from the sound of it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 26, 2015, 07:33:57 AM
I have never cared the slightest bit about Chappie. District 9 was cool, and Elysium was as well, though not as cool. Any problems Elysium had though were story based, not direction-based, although it was a bit shaky at times from what I can remember.

But it seems like he's quite passionate about this new Alien story, and it shouldn't be an all-out action movie with much "need" for shaky-cam. So I think it'll be fine.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dream Team on February 26, 2015, 08:50:07 AM
Alien 3 had a lot of problems, but Ripley's sacrifice was an epic way to end the trilogy and it's a shame to ignore that. That said, if Blomkamp can re-capture the horror and twisted sexual overtones of the first movie that would be an achievement.

Jammindude, I caught that Airheads reference since I just watched it again a few weeks ago - Buscemi steals the show in my opinion.

Watched The Sting for the first time recently - Newman and Redford were so good together.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on February 26, 2015, 08:54:03 AM
I'm excited about Bloomkamp doing it, mainly because he's such a great visual director. Elysium had a lot of problems, but it looked cool. His main problem has been coming up with good ideas on his own, and while D9 was a home run, Elysium felt like more of the same. With him tackling the Alien franchise, he can focus more on the visuals since it's an already established franchise. It will still need a good script to work, but it's probably easier to get a good story down for characters we have known and liked for 25 years, rather than creating something 100% original.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 26, 2015, 09:19:24 AM
Now what to call it ? Alien5 implies it's set after Resurrection but they could choose a font that looks like it says "AlienS" implying it's a successor to that film.

Otherwise it's gonna have to be Alien Whatever.

Aliens 2 ?

If it's going to be Ripley Newt and Hicks...


"Alien : Chicks with Hicks ".


Ps. Blomkamp directing?  Can you HAVE slums on a spaceship ? :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on February 26, 2015, 09:35:25 AM
Alien 9 because...you know....District 9!  :lol :lol :rollin :rollin :lol :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :lol :biggrin: :rollin :lol :lol :lol

Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 26, 2015, 09:52:05 AM
Yeah, a number in the title will probably be too confusing. So it'll most likely be Alien Whatever.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on February 26, 2015, 10:05:23 AM
I suspect it'll be "Alien" (or a little less likely, "Aliens") this time around, like with The Thing prequel from a few years back. Could easily be wrong, but it's just a hunch I have.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 26, 2015, 10:07:45 AM
It will likely just be Alien : Subtitle, as they've done for the Star Trek movies since TNG, and for the Terminator movies since T3.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on February 26, 2015, 10:52:34 AM
It will probably be something like Alien Reloaded, The Amazing Alien or Alien Salvation.  :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on February 26, 2015, 10:58:48 AM
Son of the Alien
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: ozzy554 on February 26, 2015, 11:20:47 AM
Aliens: Xenomorphs on patrol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on February 26, 2015, 11:21:26 AM
Watched The Sting for the first time recently - Newman and Redford were so good together.

One of my favorite movies of all time.  OF ALL TIME!!

Now that you've seen it, watch it again, and see much stuff you catch the second time that has different or additional meaning now that you know what the hell's going on.  Let's face it, nobody knows exactly what's going on the first they see that movie.  It was intentionally set up to con even the audience.  Salino, Special Agent Polk, the guy with the gloves, etc.

I am the musician I am today (which may or may not be a good thing) because of The Sting.  I always watch it whenever I catch it on TV, even though I have the Blu-ray sitting right there next to it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: ZirconBlue on February 26, 2015, 11:29:30 AM
Now what to call it ? Alien5 implies it's set after Resurrection but they could choose a font that looks like it says "AlienS" implying it's a successor to that film.

Otherwise it's gonna have to be Alien Whatever.

Aliens 2 ?
Alienses
 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on February 26, 2015, 11:33:31 AM
Clearly "The Alien".

Or

Alien(s)

Or

Alien?

Or

Illegal Alien
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on February 26, 2015, 11:44:56 AM
Clearly "The Alien".

That would work. :tup
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 26, 2015, 11:46:30 AM
Xenomorph And Mindy.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on February 26, 2015, 11:47:58 AM
Attack Of The Clones.







Crap.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 26, 2015, 01:57:25 PM
"The Alien" would mean that there's only one alien. Not complaining though, it worked well for the first movie. But it feels like there'll be more.

I'm all for ": Subtitle", as long as it doesn't have "re" in the beginning. That is just painfully cliche by now.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on February 26, 2015, 02:09:34 PM
Or they could just name it "Alien 3 (the fifth one)"
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 26, 2015, 03:06:24 PM

I'm all for ": Subtitle", as long as it doesn't have "re" in the beginning. That is just painfully cliche by now.

This. Or Alien : The Rise of Ripley. ::)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on February 26, 2015, 03:13:40 PM
I'm all for ": Subtitle", as long as it doesn't have "re" in the beginning. That is just painfully cliche by now.

You mean like "Alien: Rebirth" or "Alien: Rebooting the Series" or "Alien: Reaping in the Cash"?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 26, 2015, 03:21:30 PM
So this will be the Eighth film in the Alien universe ?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on February 26, 2015, 07:53:09 PM
I decided to watch the Assembly Cut of Alien 3 for the first time ever today... gotta say, I really enjoyed it. It's definitely a "flawed masterpiece," if there ever was one. I actually think it outdoes the first two films in some notable regards (i.e. the directing, the acting), but its faults are still pretty taxing.

I'll say this though; David Fincher was the best director to ever work on an Alien film. It's just a shame that it was his film that got micro-managed by the studio.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on February 27, 2015, 01:33:32 AM
I decided to watch the Assembly Cut of Alien 3 for the first time ever today... gotta say, I really enjoyed it. It's definitely a "flawed masterpiece," if there ever was one. I actually think it outdoes the first two films in some notable regards (i.e. the directing, the acting), but its faults are still pretty taxing.

I'll say this though; David Fincher was the best director to ever work on an Alien film. It's just a shame that it was his film that got micro-managed by the studio.

Yes, the Assembly Cut is really good, and by far beats the "normal" version of Alien 3. And I think you could make a great case for the last bit as well. Personally, I would agree. Scott hasn't done much outside of Alien and Blade Runner that I have liked, Cameron does have the Terminator movies, Aliens and True Lies, but with Fincher I really love most of his movies, with the exception of Benjamin Button and maybe Panic Room. It's a shame that Fincher didn't get more control, but on the other side, the young Fincher of Alien 3 was a very different director than the Fincher we have today. Still, I think there are glimpses of brilliance in the movie, that he would improve later on.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 27, 2015, 02:52:54 AM
I love Benjamin Button. And Fincher as well, great work on pretty much everything he does.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on February 27, 2015, 04:22:11 AM
I decided to watch the Assembly Cut of Alien 3 for the first time ever today... gotta say, I really enjoyed it. It's definitely a "flawed masterpiece," if there ever was one. I actually think it outdoes the first two films in some notable regards (i.e. the directing, the acting), but its faults are still pretty taxing.

I'll say this though; David Fincher was the best director to ever work on an Alien film. It's just a shame that it was his film that got micro-managed by the studio.

Yes, the Assembly Cut is really good, and by far beats the "normal" version of Alien 3. And I think you could make a great case for the last bit as well. Personally, I would agree. Scott hasn't done much outside of Alien and Blade Runner that I have liked, Cameron does have the Terminator movies, Aliens and True Lies, but with Fincher I really love most of his movies, with the exception of Benjamin Button and maybe Panic Room. It's a shame that Fincher didn't get more control, but on the other side, the young Fincher of Alien 3 was a very different director than the Fincher we have today. Still, I think there are glimpses of brilliance in the movie, that he would improve later on.

I'd say there's a ton of brilliance in Alien 3, in regards to Fincher's directing. On a sheer technical note, it's one of the better debuts I've ever seen. I think it's a testament to his skill that the film ended up being as good as it is, at least in the Assembly Cut, when you consider what he was up against while making the film.

They were literally writing the script while shooting the film, often shooting a scene five minutes after it had been written. I can say from personal experience that that's a terrible way to make a movie. You should pretty much always go in prepared and with understanding of what kind of film you're trying to make. In the hands of a less capable director, nothing could have saved Alien 3.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 27, 2015, 05:24:47 AM
So this will be the Eighth film in the Alien universe ?
I say 6th.  I count the AvP movies as glorified fan fiction.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 27, 2015, 05:31:35 AM
So this will be the Eighth film in the Alien universe ?
I say 6th.  I count the AvP movies as glorified fan fiction.

 
 :------ Prometheus - - - Prometheus 2 - - - - Profit ?
 :
 :                                                                : - - - - Alien 3 - - - Alien Resurrection.
 :                                                                :               
 :- - - - - - - - - - - - -Alien - - - - - - Aliens - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Alien 5 - - - - - ?
 :
 :
 :------- Avp - - - - AvpR - ?



Aren't the two AVP films set *way* before the first Alien ?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 27, 2015, 05:35:25 AM
I don't care when they are set because they are awful and I don't count them.

But I think you are right.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 27, 2015, 05:39:32 AM
I seem to remember the cast still have futuristic tech even though it's in the past. Whatever.  I don't hate the first AVP as much as Resurrection.


But regarding the new Alien5 - I bet any money that FOX will be wanting Blomkamp to make a trilogy if it goes well.


The Alien universe is becoming the new Star Wars with all of it's offshoots and prequels and sequels.

Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on February 27, 2015, 05:42:53 AM
I think the less said about the AvP movies, the better. As for Prometheus, it feels like a very shoe-horned prequel. Now that they are making a sequel to it (supposedly), it will apparently have nothing to do with Alien. So to me it feels like the Alien connections in the first was forced upon Scott by producers or something, and he tried to have as little of it as possible.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 27, 2015, 05:46:09 AM
I'm not on board with this current trend / obsession for " everything is in the same universe !!! ".

So Pixar reference their own work ? Big Deal. Edgar Wright always self-references in his work. Doesn't mean that Shaun, Spaced, Hot Fuzz, World's End are all in the same universe or anything. It's just fun easter eggs for the fans.

And that whole shit about ET being a Jedi because Lucas put ET in TPM as a tribute / homage / fun joke / whatever for Spielberg.

For whatever reason - people like to invent whole universes and backstories for incidental characters / background extras that was never intended or thought

about.

My brother showed me a video of - someone had gone into detail as to why some extra in Star Wars that you see on screen for literally half a second is

pivotal to the entire plot.

 :facepalm: OH. MY . God. Get a life. Seriously.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 27, 2015, 05:53:07 AM
Yeah, the ET thing is pretty silly. But the MCU is a cool thing, and I'm perfectly fine with the Alien Universe being a thing. Those are pretty much the only major one's I've seen though.

Aren't the two AVP films set *way* before the first Alien ?

Yeah, I think it's about 150 years before. And maybe 80 years before Prometheus.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on February 27, 2015, 05:56:15 AM
Nope, the AvP films are set in a different universe than Prometheus, actually. Guy Pearce's Weyland character is the founder of Weyland Industries in the Prometheus canon, while Bishop's actor is the CEO of Weyland Industries in the first AvP film.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on February 27, 2015, 06:03:28 AM
Oh yeah, didn't think about that.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on February 27, 2015, 06:20:29 AM
Yeah, the ET thing is pretty silly. But the MCU is a cool thing, and I'm perfectly fine with the Alien Universe being a thing. Those are pretty much the only major one's I've seen though.


It's fine and dandy if it's *intentional* but when people start pretending like everything is in one universe it gets really annoying.

Like - if Tarantino decided as an easter egg to put the Hatori Hanzo sword in the background of The Hateful Eight for eagle Eyed viewers -

- someone with way too much time on their hands would write an entire thesis on how The Bride's actual sword ended up in the Wild West

- and why it's CRUCIAL to the plot of Jackie Brown.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on February 27, 2015, 06:52:23 AM
I'm not on board with this current trend / obsession for " everything is in the same universe !!! ".

So Pixar reference their own work ? Big Deal. Edgar Wright always self-references in his work. Doesn't mean that Shaun, Spaced, Hot Fuzz, World's End are all in the same universe or anything. It's just fun easter eggs for the fans.

And that whole shit about ET being a Jedi because Lucas put ET in TPM as a tribute / homage / fun joke / whatever for Spielberg.

For whatever reason - people like to invent whole universes and backstories for incidental characters / background extras that was never intended or thought about.

My brother showed me a video of - someone had gone into detail as to why some extra in Star Wars that you see on screen for literally half a second is pivotal to the entire plot.

 :facepalm: OH. MY . God. Get a life. Seriously.

I agree with this for the most part.  I think I've seen the Star Wars thing you mention, too, and even though the premise is absurd, I thought it was pretty well done.  In school, you get these crazy assignments to write an argumentative piece for or against something that you may not actually agree with at all, but it's your job to "prove it" anyway.  I always found them to be interesting exercises.  Can you somehow show a connection that was never meant to exist?  Can you argue that it affects things it was never meant to affect?  Videos like that are just extreme versions of that.  If people want to take them seriously, then whatever.  I usually figure even the person making them doesn't necessarily believe it.  It was just something to do, an exercise.

Tarantino does a lot of that stuff on purpose, and his intention is that his films do all take place in the same world.  Red Apple Cigarettes, Big Kahuna Burgers, the Vega brothers, etc.  But that's really an exceptional case.  His movies take place in a demented version of our own present day (for the most part -- Django Unchained is an obviously outlier) and it doesn't change anything about the films themselves.

Whether or not Prometheus and Alien take place in the same universe can affect how you view the films.  A lot of Prometheus had clear tie-ins to Alien, but now he's saying that that's not how it is.  So which is it?  Is it just a coincidence that the name Weyland seems pretty important in both "universes"?

Nope, the AvP films are set in a different universe than Prometheus, actually. Guy Pearce's Weyland character is the founder of Weyland Industries in the Prometheus canon, while Bishop's actor is the CEO of Weyland Industries in the first AvP film.

I figured that was Scott's way of thumbing his nose at the AvP movies, which he had nothing to do with.  Because

I count the AvP movies as glorified fan fiction.

Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: masterthes on February 27, 2015, 08:12:58 AM
I blame Stephen King lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: ozzy554 on February 27, 2015, 08:28:38 AM
I blame Stephen King lol

Although I do enjoy reading his books and thinking of ways that Flagg could have been behind it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 27, 2015, 09:00:54 AM
I'm not on board with this current trend / obsession for " everything is in the same universe !!! ".

So Pixar reference their own work ? Big Deal. Edgar Wright always self-references in his work. Doesn't mean that Shaun, Spaced, Hot Fuzz, World's End are all in the same universe or anything. It's just fun easter eggs for the fans.

And that whole shit about ET being a Jedi because Lucas put ET in TPM as a tribute / homage / fun joke / whatever for Spielberg.

For whatever reason - people like to invent whole universes and backstories for incidental characters / background extras that was never intended or thought

about.

My brother showed me a video of - someone had gone into detail as to why some extra in Star Wars that you see on screen for literally half a second is

pivotal to the entire plot.

 :facepalm: OH. MY . God. Get a life. Seriously.
It's not that big a deal.  Really.

It's just fun, for those who find it fun.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on February 28, 2015, 05:14:03 PM
I was at my friends home movie theater and he had a few of his statues out.

(https://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/kingshmegland/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-02/A004AB1E-643A-4077-BA63-2B55649B7920_zpsknxhonnx.jpg) (https://s583.photobucket.com/user/kingshmegland/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-02/A004AB1E-643A-4077-BA63-2B55649B7920_zpsknxhonnx.jpg.html)


(https://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/kingshmegland/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-02/33079C14-3E02-49F5-92C7-A101561755CC_zpswxc3phck.jpg) (https://s583.photobucket.com/user/kingshmegland/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-02/33079C14-3E02-49F5-92C7-A101561755CC_zpswxc3phck.jpg.html)


Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 28, 2015, 05:47:03 PM
 :tup
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on February 28, 2015, 06:54:34 PM
That's funny, I was just at a friend's house who has an amazing movie and memorabilia collection. He has sooo much cool shit.

We had an old school horror movie meetup (the theme was "creepy houses") and watched The Innocents (awesome!), The Old Dark House (ridiculous) and The Changeling... which was especially interesting because it apparently is based on a true story that took place here in Denver, though the movie takes place in Seattle. It was a blast!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 28, 2015, 09:06:14 PM
Just saw Big Hero 6. So awesome.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 28, 2015, 09:10:35 PM
Just saw Big Hero 6. So awesome.

I've heard nothing but great things about this one but haven't had the chance to see it yet. I know my kiddos have seen it a couple times at their Grandparents.....I just haven't had the chance yet. I heard it was a great story.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on February 28, 2015, 09:34:49 PM
I've heard nothing but good about Big Hero 6 also.  I look forward to seeing it.

The Innocents (awesome!)

The 1961 black-and-white version with Deborah Kerr?  I saw that back in the 60's, I must've been five or six years old.  It scared the hell out of me.

Quote
The Changeling... which was especially interesting because it apparently is based on a true story that took place here in Denver, though the movie takes place in Seattle. It was a blast!

Another good one that I saw long ago.  I don't remember much about it other than it scaring the hell out of me, too.  And George C. Scott.  He was the man.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on February 28, 2015, 11:26:12 PM
Yeah, he was great. And yes, that is The Innocents you speak of. I can't imagine seeing it at that age! It was very good, and the unexpected ending really pleased me... as creepy as it was.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on March 01, 2015, 03:12:10 AM
I too have heard nothing but good things about Big Hero 6, but somehow still not managed to muster up any real enthusiasm over seeing it. I might check it out sometime.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: mikemangioy on March 01, 2015, 03:14:02 AM
Here are my monthly little reviews Part 2: February

THE BOOK THIEF
(2012, Directed by Brian Percival)

After watching The Boy In The Striped Pajamas, which underwhelmed me a lot, I was still in vein of watching some WW2 movies. So, I picked this one, and I've liked it very much. All the actors do an amazing job, and the director IMO really grasped what it meant to live in a town during WW2 (not that I did that, but it really felt real). Even though there were a couple of really stupid moments, I could say that this is definetly a great movie, touching, but also inspiring and cute.
4/5


BERNIE
(2011, Directed by Richard Linklater)

I love Jack Black, and I've really never seen him in a role like this, and man, what a great job he does. This black comedy movie made me chuckle a few times but I couldn't stand the strong southern accent at times, and the narration done by Carthage's people. It was really annoying, like if there were a bunch of people talking to me while I was trying to watch the movie. Pity, because otherwise, I would've liked it more, but still, it's a pretty cool movie.
3.5/5


NIGHT AT THE MUSEUM: SECRET OF THE TOMB
(2014, Directed by Shawn Levy)

This trilogy holds a special place in my heart, and even though the second movie wasn't so great, I've really enjoyed this one, despite of its incredible flaws, like two enormous plotholes and some useless characters that basically speak twice in the whole movie. But it was a lot of fun and jeez, it's Robin Willams' last movie too, that added an incredible dark touch to it.

3.5/5


GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY
(2014, Directed by James Gunn)

Great movie, but the overwhelming sci-fi atmosphere isn't my cup of tea. I've enjoyed the characters and the dialogue a lot (props to the screenplay writers), but at the end of the day I think that it's not a movie meant for me.

3/5


DESPICABLE ME 2
(2013, Directed by Pierre Coffin and Chris Renaud)

Funny, but the female character was quite annoying and I've watched it in italian, there was some terrible terrible voice acting. Although I laughed a lot, I must admit.

VOTE: 3/5


BIRDMAN (OR THE UNEXPECTED VIRTUE OF IGNORANCE)
(2014, Directed by Alejandro G. Iñarritu)

Holy shit. One of the most experimental movies I've ever watched, everything about this was awesome, from the directing, to the editing, to the strange but fitting soundtrack, the cast, the plot EVERYTHING WAS INCREDIBLE GO WATCH THIS. But seriously I won't talk about anything specific because I just can't explain in words what is this movie.

VOTE: 5/5

OVERALL: Average month, with a bunch of ok movies and a masterpiece. Let's see what March brings.


Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on March 01, 2015, 03:18:47 AM
NIGHT AT THE MUSEUM: SECRET OF THE TOMB
(2014, Directed by Shawn Levy)

This trilogy holds a special place in my heart, and even though the second movie wasn't so great, I've really enjoyed this one, despite of its incredible flaws, like two enormous plotholes and some useless characters that basically speak twice in the whole movie. But it was a lot of fun and jeez, it's Robin Willams' last movie too, that added an incredible dark touch to it.

3.5/5

The second movie was indeed not better than the first, but I do think it was funnier. Haven't seen this new one yet.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: ozzy554 on March 01, 2015, 07:10:30 PM
Finally got around to watching Pulp Fiction for the first time. Overall I really enjoyed it although I think it is a bit overrated and could have been shortened a bit.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on March 01, 2015, 07:41:23 PM
Just watched The Wolf of Wall Street. I can't believe Leo doesn't have an Oscar yet.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on March 02, 2015, 12:40:51 AM
I love Benjamin Button. And Fincher as well, great work on pretty much everything he does.

Benjamin Button filled me with rage.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on March 02, 2015, 02:05:12 AM
Why? I thought it was lovely.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on March 02, 2015, 03:58:44 AM
Benjamin is born a baby-sized old man. As he gets older and grows larger, he ages backwards. I sat through the entire movie waiting to see a 6' tall baby. I really wanted to see a 6' tall baby. In the end, Benjamin shrinks back down to normal baby size and dies. Lame.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on March 02, 2015, 04:33:01 AM
I really wanted to see a 6' tall baby.

www.google.com
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on March 02, 2015, 05:04:40 AM
I really wanted to see a 6' tall baby.

www.google.com
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Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on March 02, 2015, 05:47:01 PM
Watched the doors tonight for the first time.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c1/Doorsposter1991.jpg/215px-Doorsposter1991.jpg)


cool movie, but kinda too long and a bit too all over the place imo. But I'm still glad to have seen it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 03, 2015, 07:29:56 AM
I never liked that movie.

Of course, I don't like the Doors or Jim Morrison, so that may have had something to do with it lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on March 03, 2015, 08:25:56 AM
Watched Cloud Atlas last night with mixed feelings, though I mostly enjoyed it.
I'll just copy what I wrote on FB: It didn't feel as long as it was, which was good... but there was just too much fucking going on, and I did a lot of head-scratching. Also, the "endings" were a bit too annoyingly happy. Very unique concept (despite some of the cliches in there) and courageous, so it gets points for that. And the makeup!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on March 03, 2015, 08:49:03 AM
I really liked that one. Very strange and fresh concept. I'm glad I had subtitles for the 'future' stuff though, probably wouldn't have understood it otherwise.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on March 03, 2015, 09:34:20 AM
I never considered it to be annoyingly happy myself, but different tastes and all that. Glad you enjoyed it though, it's one of my favorite movies.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on March 03, 2015, 09:59:53 AM
I love cloud atlas  :heart
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on March 03, 2015, 02:01:42 PM
Pretty bad-ass supercut of John Vick.

Obviously spoilers!!
John Wick SuperCut (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqa3t5ZwtHQ)

Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Phoenix87x on March 03, 2015, 02:05:38 PM
John Wick is awesome  :metal
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on March 03, 2015, 02:13:18 PM
Yes it is. Cool to see Keanu back in action.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: lordxizor on March 03, 2015, 04:17:27 PM
Watched Cavalry last weekend after hearing good things about it. I dunno... I just didn't get it. Seemed like there was a point to the ending, but I don't know what it is. Just seemed like a really sad movie, which is generally not something I like to take my time to watch.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on March 03, 2015, 10:15:22 PM
Guy does Joker interrogation scene from "Dark Knight Returns" as Mark Hamill's Joker. Holy shit. (audio only, but fantastic)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf2tXChJR-I
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on March 04, 2015, 05:55:38 AM
Here's a brand spankin' new interview with Neill Blomkamp on his upcoming Alien film. I'm pretty excited, based on what all he had to say. :tup

https://www.ign.com/articles/2015/03/04/how-district-9-director-neill-blomkamp-got-the-alien-gig
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on March 04, 2015, 07:11:29 AM
I like how he feels honored to be in the company of two... no, three great directors: Scott, Cameron, and after a moment of hesitation, Fincher, who he admires even though he's not a big fan of Alien3.  Doesn't mention Resurrectiion at all.

 :lol




 :|
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on March 04, 2015, 07:18:36 AM
I like how he feels honored to be in the company of two... no, three great directors: Scott, Cameron, and after a moment of hesitation, Fincher, who he admires even though he's not a big fan of Alien3.  Doesn't mention Resurrectiion at all.

 :lol


 :|

I can't say I blame him for that though. :lol As I said before, Fincher is probably the best overall director to ever participate in the franchise's history.

That said, the director of Resurrection has apparently made several really terrific French films, though he's more of a comedy filmmaker than sci-fi or horror. Apparently he couldn't even speak/read English when he filmed A:R, which was why Joss Whedon felt they got his script for the film all wrong. :lol

What I really like about that interview with Blomkamp though are his comments about how the attraction of the series is its Freudian terror and that he's considering decorating the film in a lo-fi manner like in the first two films and Alien: Isolation. It's great to know that he's paying attention to those sorts of details. :tup
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Bolsters on March 04, 2015, 07:30:35 AM
I can't believe he's 35, working in the film industry, and has only just gotten around to seeing Alien. :|
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on March 04, 2015, 07:33:08 AM
I can't believe he's 35, working in the film industry, and has only just gotten around to seeing Alien. :|

He grew up watching both Alien and Aliens. He's said for years that those are his top two films ever. :lol He was saying that it was his first time actually getting to see the film on the big screen. I think he was also trying to communicate that he'd always preferred Aliens just a little bit more, but that seeing Alien on the big screen for the first time recently might have swung his opinion in the other direction.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 04, 2015, 07:58:09 AM
Good interview.  I look forward to seeing his final product.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on March 04, 2015, 08:12:11 AM
I like how he feels honored to be in the company of two... no, three great directors: Scott, Cameron, and after a moment of hesitation, Fincher, who he admires even though he's not a big fan of Alien3.  Doesn't mention Resurrectiion at all.

 :lol


 :|
That said, the director of Resurrection has apparently made several really terrific French films, though he's more of a comedy filmmaker than sci-fi or horror.
Jean-Pierre Jeunet is a great director, not one I would ever think would do an Alien movie though. The City of Lost Children and Amélie is two must see movies from him, masterpieces imo.

Btw I like that he acknowledged Alien: Isolation and spoke highly about it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on March 04, 2015, 10:44:17 AM
I just find it weird that Blomkamp is basically promoting Alien5 when his latest film Chappie is just out.

Did he crap out Chappie just to get Sigourney Weaver on board with his idea ?

I can't see Chappie being a big hit unless people go to see it primarily on the back of District 9 and / or to see what his style is like vis-a-vis the next Alien film.

Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on March 04, 2015, 10:46:29 AM
Jean-Pierre Jeunet is a great director, not one I would ever think would do an Alien movie though. The City of Lost Children and Amélie is two must see movies from him, masterpieces imo.

I didn't realize that he's the guy who did Amélie.  I caught that recently and thought it was really good.  Very clever stuff.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on March 04, 2015, 10:51:16 AM
*SPOILER*


Yeah I thought it was a funny twist that the guy she pursues the whole film is just the guy who repairs the photo booth...



Unless i'm remembering it wrong. I think that was the gist.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on March 04, 2015, 11:14:40 AM
No, that was it.  Well, that was one of the plots.  There's also the bike dude, the various people at the café and their relationship issues, the owner of the missing treasure box, and the traveling gnome.  There might have been more.  It was really well done how all the plots were interwoven.

The only thing that bothered me about the movie was that the director was obviously in love with Audrey Tautou.  There were many shots of just the camera lingering on her, and her looking insanely cute.  And I say this as someone who thinks Audrey Tautou is insanely cute.  Even I got tired of it.  She would do something clever, and we'd get a lingering shot of her smug, smirking face.  Once or twice, I could've handled.  I'm pretty sure it was more like a dozen times, which is at least ten too many.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on March 04, 2015, 11:16:08 AM
I just find it weird that Blomkamp is basically promoting Alien5 when his latest film Chappie is just out.

Did he crap out Chappie just to get Sigourney Weaver on board with his idea ?

I can't see Chappie being a big hit unless people go to see it primarily on the back of District 9 and / or to see what his style is like vis-a-vis the next Alien film.

I think part of this is that the media is just far more interested in talking to him about Alien than they are Chappie. After all, one film is a new entry in one of the biggest film franchises ever and the other is an original film. I also have heard that the studio has supposedly really undersold Chappie and haven't done much to really advertise it to audiences.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on March 04, 2015, 08:03:08 PM
No, that was it.  Well, that was one of the plots.  There's also the bike dude, the various people at the café and their relationship issues, the owner of the missing treasure box, and the traveling gnome.  There might have been more.  It was really well done how all the plots were interwoven.

The only thing that bothered me about the movie was that the director was obviously in love with Audrey Tautou.  There were many shots of just the camera lingering on her, and her looking insanely cute.  And I say this as someone who thinks Audrey Tautou is insanely cute.  Even I got tired of it.  She would do something clever, and we'd get a lingering shot of her smug, smirking face.  Once or twice, I could've handled.  I'm pretty sure it was more like a dozen times, which is at least ten too many.


 :lol, that's funny, I'll have to watch it again and see if I agree. Because I mean, it's really hard to get tired of her adorable face.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bl5150 on March 04, 2015, 08:17:40 PM
Just saw Kingsman. Fantastic!

Same here, I generally don't do this but this might be a first day buy for me when it comes out on blu ray.

Just got home from seeing Kingsman with the Mrs. and Jr.. Holy balls, that was a funny and awesome film! I just can't get over some of the surprises and shocks of this movie  :lol

GO SEE IT, NOW!

I agree............saw it last weekend and it's like Bond meets The Matrix  :lol    And quite possibly the only film ever that me and the missus both loved.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The King in Crimson on March 04, 2015, 08:51:45 PM
Just watched Foxcatcher. Meh. Aside from some performances, I felt supremely unmoved by the film. Parts also seemed to drag way too much. Definitely the worst of this year's Oscar nominees I've seen so far.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on March 04, 2015, 09:02:56 PM
Not surprised to hear that, because after hearing some clips of it on the radio and seeing a trailer I was truly wondering why the hell anybody wanted to see it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on March 04, 2015, 09:05:35 PM
Not surprised to hear that, because after hearing some clips of it on the radio and seeing a trailer I was truly wondering why the hell anybody wanted to see it.
I think its biggest appeal was "comedy actor surprisingly gives Oscar-worthy dramatic performance." At least, that's the only thing that caught my interest. It's worked in the past. Also, I still haven't seen it, and I don't really plan to.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dark Castle on March 04, 2015, 09:09:55 PM
I don't know, I really enjoyed it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on March 05, 2015, 02:59:18 AM
Hmm... Chappie seems to be getting some pretty mixed-to-negative reviews so far. I'm rather disappointed to hear about that, on two levels. Obviously this makes me more concerned about how well Blomkamp will do with the new Alien film, but I also had been hopeful for Chappie itself too. I'll still see it in the near future though, I think.

But if Chappie does really share the same sort of story/script issues that Elysium had, I'd hope that Blomkamp wises up and decides to give someone else his story treatment and let them handle the screenwriting for the film. It sounds like that's his big Achilles' Heel. I'm not at all concerned about the actual directing of the film though and I think Blomkamp is certainly capable of whipping up an intelligent story concept for the series. I just want that concept to be written well too.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on March 05, 2015, 07:15:42 AM
I saw previews to Chappie, and I thought it looked really cool.   (even if it is just an action version of Short Circuit...right down to the token "Indian guy")
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Chino on March 05, 2015, 07:22:59 AM
I saw previews to Chappie, and I thought it looked really cool.   (even if it is just an action version of Short Circuit...right down to the token "Indian guy")

Short Circuit might be the only movie I don't like nearly as much as I do its sequel. SC2 is so much better.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on March 05, 2015, 07:23:50 AM
Yeah, to me it looks like some kinduv weird cross between Short Circuit and Robocop.  Johnny 5 shooting up bad guys 'n' stuff.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 05, 2015, 07:25:49 AM
Yeah, to me it looks like some kinduv weird cross between Short Circuit and Robocop.  Johnny 5 shooting up bad guys 'n' stuff.
Same here.  Even if it's well done, not sure I have an appetite to watch such a thing.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 05, 2015, 07:33:35 AM
I'd be so much more interested in that movie if it weren't for the action stuff. If it was just about the robot, I'd be interested.
Looks like that's going to be two recent dud robot movies. :(
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on March 05, 2015, 09:45:28 AM
You didn't like the new Robocop ?

It wasn't amazing but I thought it was pretty decent.

I enjoyed it a lot more than I thought I would.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 05, 2015, 09:55:32 AM
You didn't like the new Robocop ?

It wasn't amazing but I thought it was pretty decent.

I enjoyed it a lot more than I thought I would.

I still haven't seen that one yet, and I wasn't thinking about it when I said that.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dream Team on March 05, 2015, 01:58:10 PM
Just watched Big Hero 6 again last night, now THAT'S how you do a "robot" movie well.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on March 05, 2015, 02:41:52 PM
Big Hero 6 is amazing. I laughed so hard when Baymax got stuck in the window.

Properly welled up too at some scenes.

Awesome visuals / direction.

And Hiro is so cute.  :D
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on March 05, 2015, 05:21:51 PM
Have any of you seen Communion with Christopher Walken? Oh man, that shit was weird  :lol

GUYS I AM SO PUMPED. I'm going to see Face/Off (perhaps my favorite guilty pleasure) on the big screen at the Alamo tonight :caffeine:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: KevShmev on March 05, 2015, 05:24:21 PM
I have to admit I saw Face/Off three times in the theater when it came out.  So cheesy, yet so enjoyable.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on March 05, 2015, 06:06:18 PM
Yeah, it's absolutely fucking ridiculous and I love it so much. I never got to see it on the big screen before, so I'm pumped! My friend also told me that the last time the Alamo showed it they gave everyone those face-picture fans with Travolta on one side and Cage on the other  :lol... I really hope they do that again.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The King in Crimson on March 05, 2015, 06:57:46 PM
Oh my god, that movie is so terribly awful. It would probably be a blast to see it on the big screen, though I think the combo of Nick Cage bugging out and John Travolta hamming it up amongst a cloud of slow-motion-flying doves might be too much for my frail senses.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on March 05, 2015, 09:18:27 PM
How well do they perform each other's mannerisms?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on March 05, 2015, 10:41:04 PM
I think quite well, actually. We were talking about that during the movie, it's very funny to watch them do that. It was amazing on the big screen!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zydar on March 06, 2015, 01:26:26 AM
Harrison Ford in stable condition after plane crash

https://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3335002/harrison-ford-critically-injured-plane-crash/
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on March 06, 2015, 03:49:44 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flXCWdhJnGY
 :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 06, 2015, 07:27:06 AM
My kids watched Con Air last weekend.  They laughed and made fun of it pretty much the entire length of the film.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on March 06, 2015, 08:23:21 AM
That's pretty much the whole point of that movie though, right?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on March 06, 2015, 08:30:30 AM
Nicolas Cage's accent alone is impossible not to laugh at.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 06, 2015, 08:36:31 AM
That's pretty much the whole point of that movie though, right?
I hope so.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on March 06, 2015, 09:02:08 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on March 06, 2015, 12:00:58 PM
Face/Off has one of my all time favorite stock sounds. When the SWAT officer gets shot in the foot, "YEEEERRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH" It's so over the top it's hilarious, just like the movie.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: The King in Crimson on March 06, 2015, 12:06:02 PM
How well do they perform each other's mannerisms?
I think the best part is probably Nick Cage acting like John Travolta acting like Nick Cage.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on March 06, 2015, 12:20:28 PM
How well do they perform each other's mannerisms?
I think the best part is probably Nick Cage acting like John Travolta acting like Nick Cage.

It's truly one of the most glorious set-ups of acting ever. :rollin
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on March 06, 2015, 03:23:00 PM
Seriously.

Face/Off has one of my all time favorite stock sounds. When the SWAT officer gets shot in the foot, "YEEEERRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH" It's so over the top it's hilarious, just like the movie.

 :lol, yes! One of my favorite audio moments in the movie is this part: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMcbxejmOZE

Also I can't find the clip, but right after that when the doctor asks him what he wants, and you see the reflection of his skinless face with the cigarette and he says "Take one goddamn guess." omg  :rollin
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: KevShmev on March 06, 2015, 04:39:05 PM
Cage and Travolta were both good as bad guys in the film, but Cage was way more believable as the good guy; Travolta was too shmaltzy.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on March 06, 2015, 04:44:08 PM
You know you're getting old when you use the word "shmaltzy".
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on March 06, 2015, 07:56:29 PM
 :lol... yeah, I guess I can agree with that. The last scene when he brings the replacement-kid home to join his family (apparently without asking permission first- WTF??) is sorta gag-worthy.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: KevShmev on March 06, 2015, 10:42:06 PM
You know you're getting old when you use the word "shmaltzy".

 :lol :lol

:lol... yeah, I guess I can agree with that. The last scene when he brings the replacement-kid home to join his family (apparently without asking permission first- WTF??) is sorta gag-worthy.

Yeah, that nod he does is terrible, like "Yeah, you don't know this kid, but he's the son of the guy who killed our son and just stole my face, so let's keep him!" :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on March 06, 2015, 11:48:07 PM
Yeah! And Eve just nods her head like "Yes, of course!"  :rollin

I like to think they rename him Michael.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: orcus116 on March 07, 2015, 12:38:24 PM
An offshoot of a discussion on another forum: is there any director who just can't seem to get their shit together with theatrical cuts of movies more than Ridley Scott? I saw Blade Runner on Netflix, didn't like it, and was told "oh, that's not the real cut. You need the Final Cut" or something like that. My friend let me borrow Kingdom of Heaven since it's one of his favorite movies and it had some of the most horrid pacing and editing I've ever seen. Then he tells me "oh you should actually watch the Director's Cut". How many times must Scott's movies get excused with the explanation of needing to watch some extended cut if the theatrical cut didn't turn out great? I think the only two movies that actually work for him, due to their length, are Black Hawk Down and Gladiator.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on March 07, 2015, 01:12:29 PM
^ The theatrical cut of Alien is insanely wonderful. I think it arguably works better than the latter director's cut.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: orcus116 on March 07, 2015, 01:18:14 PM
Cue the outrage but I haven't seen that. Planning on it, though.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on March 07, 2015, 02:20:43 PM
I think I prefer the extra long version of Aliens too.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on March 07, 2015, 03:09:59 PM
The longer version of Aliens is better in many ways, especially after the Marines arrive.  I like the remote sentries and some of the other stuff that adds more tension and excitement to the battle between them and the aliens.  I kinda like the different way the film starts, but it takes away a lot of the impact of how Burke gets Ripley to get on board with them.

I prefer the theatrical cut of Alien.  Most of the stuff in the extended version just doesn't work for me.  The scene with Dallas does explain why Ripley goes from running through the ship to suddenly running through the ship terrified and freaked out, but the exposition into the life cycle of the alien never really made sense to me, and doesn't fit with the later films (although, granted, it wasn't meant to).
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Prog Snob on March 07, 2015, 03:14:45 PM
Yeah! And Eve just nods her head like "Yes, of course!"  :rollin

I like to think they rename him Michael.

Only in the movies.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on March 07, 2015, 03:18:11 PM
The longer version of Aliens is better in many ways, especially after the Marines arrive.  I like the remote sentries and some of the other stuff that adds more tension and excitement to the battle between them and the aliens.  I kinda like the different way the film starts, but it takes away a lot of the impact of how Burke gets Ripley to get on board with them.

I prefer the theatrical cut of Alien.  Most of the stuff in the extended version just doesn't work for me.  The scene with Dallas does explain why Ripley goes from running through the ship to suddenly running through the ship terrified and freaked out, but the exposition into the life cycle of the alien never really made sense to me, and doesn't fit with the later films (although, granted, it wasn't meant to).


Completely agreed, aside from the scene with Dallas and Ripley at the end Alien. It doesn't fit with the sequels, but by god, it's one of the most disturbing moments in the whole franchise. Basically the idea is that the people become the new alien egg. It's a terrifying bit of body horror if there ever was one.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on March 07, 2015, 05:35:08 PM
Oh, it's freaky all right.

My problem is that the original alien came from a facehugger (via Kane) which came from an egg.  So far, so good.  But we saw that the eggs in the derelict ship were in some kind of hold, being transported, all in nice neat rows.  We never got an explanation for origin of them; it was something I was hoping for with the Prometheus films, but it seems that Scott wants to go a different direction with them now.

Anyway, the idea that the drone can make an egg out of a victim, that their DNA is so advanced and programmed with such complexity that it can do such a thing, just seems a little too "out there" to me.  I watched each of the four Alien films as they came out in theaters, before the Internet and discussions dissecting them to death, so I basically had to come up with my own explanations, and I guess in my head, they're the "right" ones, even though that doesn't make sense if they're contrary to what the filmmakers themselves say.  The Queen was created and introduced by Cameron, but it works and is familiar to us.  True, it reduces the xenomorphs to "bugs" but man, what bugs they are.

I figured out that the original alien from the first film was a drone.  Instinct tells him to grab hosts and bring them back to the hive and stick them to the wall near an egg so a facehugger can come out and have a face to hug.  But the drone on Nostromo got separated from its hive, and had no way to get the hosts back to it, so all it knew to do was to grab people.  Throughout the entire first film, we never see any bodies of the crew; they're gone but we don't know if they're dead or what.  They're just gone.

The Dallas scene answers that question, and yeah, it's very disturbing.  When separated from the hive, the drone can make an egg out of a host body.  I guess I'm okay that far.  But the egg comes complete with a facehugger inside?  The would require completely reprogramming the DNA of the host to create an entirely different life form (the xenomorph) from pretty much anything it can find (human or whatever).  Yeah, it's fiction, science fiction, to be exact.  But that's where it goes just a bit too far for me, and I'm glad that it was left out.  Since it's not in the film, it's not canon, and I don't have any problem with Cameron's resolution to the whole life cycle question.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on March 11, 2015, 02:45:09 PM
Maleficent

I think it's an interesting trend, this whole thing where they "reimagine" the backstories of villains.  "Wicked" is probably the most famous.  I've never seen it, but I guess it's the story behind the witches of Oz.  I think my favorite is "Grendel", the book which tells the story of Beowulf, but from Grendel's point of view.  First-person, (or should it be first-creature?)  Then you have things like "Oz the Great and Powerful" which is a true prequel, the story behind Oz the Man, and things like "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead" which takes two completely incidental characters are tells their story, parallel to the more famous work in which they briefly appear, "Hamlet".

Anyway, Maleficent tells the "real" story behind one of the scarier and more incredible creations in the Disney world.  For the most part, I thought it was very creative.  Unlike a lot of people (from what I've read on the IMDb boards), I didn't have a problem with the casting, or the effects, or even the jist of the story.  It's the missed opportunities.  For every "clever" thing they came up, I immediately came up with something that went just a bit further and, IMO, worked better.  Stefan and Maleficent were friends, but he betrayed her.  In this movie, there is no explanation for this other than that he was greedy and wanted to be the king.  He drugged her and brutally assaulted her, taking a part of her that was most special (metaphor for rape? you decide) in a complete turn of character.  The first time we saw him, he gave up something for her, just so that she wouldn't be harmed by it.  Then they subsequently fell in love, although it was never explicitly stated as such, but come on, that's what it was.  Then he did the deed.  And yeah, he became king.  That was his reward, and that's why he did it.

So basically, despite everything we'd seen so far, he actually was a horrible, selfish, greedy, ambitious person who did something abhorrent just so he could be the king.  Then later, he was either insane because he was so evil, or evil because he was insane; it was hard to tell and they really didn't explain or explore it.  Moral of the story: Humans are evil and greedy, fairies are wonderful and kind, but don't piss them off.

I think a better version of the story would have Stefan doing it to save her life, which is what I was actually expecting, since it had exactly that effect.  The king had put a bounty on her; he wanted her dead.  The old king really was nuts; he would've been a great fall guy.  If the king believed Maleficent was dead, he would drop his insane fear/jealously of the Moorlands.  Plus he was literally on his deathbed anyway.  So Stefan does it to save Maleficent's life, becomes king, and later finds that he can't live with what he's done to his only friend, and that's what drives him mad.  That's an actual tragedy, the basis of a good story right there.  Instead, he suddenly betrays and defiles her, becomes king, and now apparently hates her.  Like... what?

But the biggest problem is not that they've taken a truly evil character and made her sympathetic, it's that they totally neutered her.  She's really just misunderstood.  She's actually a good, kind-hearted person.  She just happens to hate Stefan for what he did to her, which is completely understandable, but that goes back to the betrayal which made no sense in the first place.  Also, how in the hell is Maleficent her given name?  "Mal-" of course literally means "bad" or "evil".  It's the kind of name you choose for yourself after being betrayed by your best friend, have something priceless stolen from you, and decide that you are now evil and need a name which conveys that.  No one would actually name their child that.  Again, I was expecting her to start with a different name.  "I was born (lame normal name), but I am now... Maleficent!"

I don't know, maybe I think too much about stuff like this.  It's a Disney film, fer cryin' out loud.  But it doesn't get a pass from me because "it's just a kid's film".  It can still work on all levels, and could have with just a bit more work on the story.

It wasn't a complete failure.  As I said, a lot of it was well done, very clever.  The red, green, and blue fairies were great.  The "real" role of Prince Phillip ("Prince Charming") and how it is revealed had me cracking up.  The "Entish" border guards were awesome.  But to come so close to creating something really awesome, and to fall short, is even more tragic than just making a mediocre film.

Six magic fairies out of ten.  Would not watch again, unless really bored.
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Post by: Accelerando on March 11, 2015, 08:15:30 PM
Maleficent had so much potential to do something mature but still family friendly ala Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl. I agree with you that they tarnished her character by neutering her. She is one of the greatest, most evil characters that Disney has created. This was a role Angelina Jolie was born to play, and they ultimately fucked it up by "reimagining" an evil character to make her compassionate.


I'm not liking what I'm seeing with this live action adaptations to classic Disney animated films. I've yet to see Cinderella, which I'm intrigued because it is directed by Kenneth Branaugh and I really enjoy his work. Beauty and the Beast is about to be made, but they've made some poor casting choices. Just because Emma Watson played a beautiful bookworm in Harry Potter movies doesn't mean she can actually play a beautiful bookworm. She's just not a good actress, and the character of Belle is wonderful and deserves better.

Now Tim Burton just got attached to direct a live action Dumbo movie, and he's the last person I want touching it. Dumbo is a very special movie to me. Disney hired him for one reason: The Elephants On Parade sequence
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on March 11, 2015, 08:31:05 PM
Oh dear.  The Elephants On Parade sequence is brilliant and psychotic, and I can see Tim Burton going crazy with it.  I can also see myself hating it and pretty much everything else in that movie.  Dumbo is special to me, too.  I don't know why; it just is.  Tim Burton is hit-or-miss with me, though, so maybe this one will be a hit.

I've seen promos for the live-action Cinderella, but I didn't realize that they were also doing Beauty and the Beast and Dumbo.
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Post by: MetalJunkie on March 11, 2015, 08:39:52 PM
Maleficent had so much potential to do something mature but still family friendly ala Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl. I agree with you that they tarnished her character by neutering her. She is one of the greatest, most evil characters that Disney has created. This was a role Angelina Jolie was born to play, and they ultimately fucked it up by "reimagining" an evil character to make her compassionate.


I'm not liking what I'm seeing with this live action adaptations to classic Disney animated films. I've yet to see Cinderella, which I'm intrigued because it is directed by Kenneth Branaugh and I really enjoy his work. Beauty and the Beast is about to be made, but they've made some poor casting choices. Just because Emma Watson played a beautiful bookworm in Harry Potter movies doesn't mean she can actually play a beautiful bookworm. She's just not a good actress, and the character of Belle is wonderful and deserves better.

Now Tim Burton just got attached to direct a live action Dumbo movie, and he's the last person I want touching it. Dumbo is a very special movie to me. Disney hired him for one reason: The Elephants On Parade sequence
I was super pumped for Maleficent, but lost interest 100% when I heard they made her 'good.'
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Post by: Lucien on March 11, 2015, 09:55:13 PM
Maleficent had so much potential to do something mature but still family friendly ala Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl. I agree with you that they tarnished her character by neutering her. She is one of the greatest, most evil characters that Disney has created. This was a role Angelina Jolie was born to play, and they ultimately fucked it up by "reimagining" an evil character to make her compassionate.


I'm not liking what I'm seeing with this live action adaptations to classic Disney animated films. I've yet to see Cinderella, which I'm intrigued because it is directed by Kenneth Branaugh and I really enjoy his work. Beauty and the Beast is about to be made, but they've made some poor casting choices. Just because Emma Watson played a beautiful bookworm in Harry Potter movies doesn't mean she can actually play a beautiful bookworm. She's just not a good actress, and the character of Belle is wonderful and deserves better.

Now Tim Burton just got attached to direct a live action Dumbo movie, and he's the last person I want touching it. Dumbo is a very special movie to me. Disney hired him for one reason: The Elephants On Parade sequence
I was super pumped for Maleficent, but lost interest 100% when I heard they made her 'good.'

Yeah, this. I didn't even see the movie, I don't want her character to be tarnished as the most evil, blackhearted, awesome villain in the Disney universe. It worked with Wicked because we didn't really have a backstory on the Wicked Witch of the West, but we KNOW Maleficent is evil.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dark Castle on March 11, 2015, 10:10:09 PM
Exactly why I didn't see it as well. Malificent is an evil queen bish and kvlt as fuqq.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on March 11, 2015, 10:56:49 PM
Angelina nails the look; she is Maleficent from the cartoon Sleeping Beauty.  There are a couple of scenes which look exactly like the corresponding scenes from the cartoon, which isn't necessarily easy to do because we're talking live action, when the original cartoon is embedded in our memories.  But she pulls it off.  The scene where she appears "uninvited" to Aurora's birth celebration is perfect, word-for-word identical... until the end of the scene, where they change something.  I have to admit, it was really, really impressive, then ultimately disappointing.

So much potential for awesomeness.  And to be fair, a lot of legitimate awesomeness.  But a couple of bad judgement calls on somebody's part, and instead you have a movie that leaves you thinking how great it could've been if they'd just changed this, and this, and maybe that.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on March 12, 2015, 01:39:46 PM
Maleficent didn't impress me. Too cheesy, although it had it's enjoyable moments.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 12, 2015, 02:28:08 PM
Biggest shocker of all time - Disney officially has Frozen 2 in development.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on March 12, 2015, 03:02:27 PM
Biggest shocker of all time - Disney officially has Frozen 2 in development.

Plot twist: it somehow actually turns out to be really great. :lol

Sarcasm aside, I'm open-minded to this. It was clearly coming and the first film was pretty great, though I didn't ruin the experience by making sure I ignored most of the general public hype and the overplaying of the tunes.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on March 12, 2015, 03:04:56 PM
Yeah I really liked Frozen, but a sequel kinda obviously screams "let's see how much money we can make off this one!"

but who knows, it might be good.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on March 12, 2015, 03:11:55 PM
Yeah I really liked Frozen, but a sequel kinda obviously screams "let's see how much money we can make off this one!"

but who knows, it might be good.

Yeah. I think I'm a little more positive because it sounds like this is going to be a film that's going to be in theaters, rather than a straight-to-DVD/Blu-Ray release. If it's going to be getting a theatrical release, chances are that there's a bigger drive to do this sequel right. We'll see.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Lucien on March 12, 2015, 03:18:07 PM
I'm much more interested in the in-the-works Incredibles 2.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on March 12, 2015, 03:28:13 PM
I'm much more interested in the in-the-works Incredibles 2.

As am I. :)

Beauty and the Beast is about to be made, but they've made some poor casting choices. Just because Emma Watson played a beautiful bookworm in Harry Potter movies doesn't mean she can actually play a beautiful bookworm. She's just not a good actress, and the character of Belle is wonderful and deserves better.

Actually, Watson is really the only weak or mediocre casting for the film so far. Luke Evans is a perfect fit for Gaston and I really like the casting of Dan Stevens as the Beast. He's got the range to nail both the charming and frightening sides to the character.

I'd have preferred someone else over Watson as Belle, but I get the impression that it's a role she's been campaigning for behind-the-scenes to get. Hopefully that passion she's been proclaiming about helps bring in a good enough performance (though imo, Belle deserves nothing less than the best) and if this is an adaptation of the Broadway performance, hopefully both her and Stevens can sing and do justice to their characters' solo songs. Evans has already proven himself to be a great singer, so I'm pretty confident he'll do great with Gaston's songs.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on March 12, 2015, 04:14:39 PM
Eh. I thought the first Frozen was mediocre, and I don't expect more from this one.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on March 12, 2015, 04:34:31 PM
I'm much more interested in the in-the-works Incredibles 2.

I hadn't heard about this.  The Incredibles is my favorite Pixar flick, so this pleases me.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on March 12, 2015, 05:27:04 PM
I'm much more interested in the in-the-works Incredibles 2.

I hadn't heard about this.  The Incredibles is my favorite Pixar flick, so this pleases me.

I actually thought The Incredibles was the first Pixar film where quality control slipped.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Lucien on March 12, 2015, 07:03:32 PM
I'm much more interested in the in-the-works Incredibles 2.

I hadn't heard about this.  The Incredibles is my favorite Pixar flick, so this pleases me.

I actually thought The Incredibles was the first Pixar film where quality control slipped.

Even though it's by far one of the best Pixar films?  :P
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: jammindude on March 12, 2015, 07:30:37 PM
I'm much more interested in the in-the-works Incredibles 2.

I hadn't heard about this.  The Incredibles is my favorite Pixar flick, so this pleases me.

I actually thought The Incredibles was the first Pixar film where quality control slipped.

(https://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r47/jammindude/Grouchy_Smurf_zpsjcballjb.jpg~original)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Jaffa on March 12, 2015, 10:54:32 PM
I just want them to call the Frozen sequel Thawed. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on March 13, 2015, 03:20:49 AM
Eh. I thought the first Frozen was mediocre, and I don't expect more from this one.

Yeah, this.

What disappointed me the most was that before I saw it, people kept saying that it was "the new Lion King", a "kids movie for adults" with such a "mature theme" and "dark moments". But then it was all "love will thaw and stuff" and was just as kiddy as I had been led to believe that it wasn't.

A sequel doesn't interest me, and dread the days when that movie's 'Let It Go' will be inescapable everywhere I go.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on March 13, 2015, 03:34:23 AM
I'm much more interested in the in-the-works Incredibles 2.

I hadn't heard about this.  The Incredibles is my favorite Pixar flick, so this pleases me.

I actually thought The Incredibles was the first Pixar film where quality control slipped.

(https://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r47/jammindude/Grouchy_Smurf_zpsjcballjb.jpg~original)

Ah the good old "reply with a gif instead of an actual reply" ploy.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Bolsters on March 13, 2015, 03:37:58 AM
But that's a JPG. :P
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: puppyonacid on March 13, 2015, 03:38:35 AM
Preety sure that's a JPEG

*myung'd
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zydar on March 13, 2015, 03:39:06 AM
Hey guys, I think that's a JPEG.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 13, 2015, 03:39:26 AM
Ah the good old "reply with a jpg instead of an actual gif" ploy.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on March 13, 2015, 04:24:28 AM
Butt seriously.

Replying with a meme is just the worst.




inb4 that's exactly what everyone does. oh the hilarity.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on March 13, 2015, 05:13:49 AM
No worse than replying with a shitload of returns and an "OK".
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: puppyonacid on March 13, 2015, 05:29:41 AM
Why is replying with a perfectly relevant meme "the worst"?

My bro and I send memes to each other all the time. They can say just what you want  to say sometimes better than you can say it.

They should make a movie about that.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 13, 2015, 07:05:28 AM
Biggest shocker of all time - Disney officially has Frozen 2 in development.

Plot twist: it somehow actually turns out to be really great. :lol

Sarcasm aside, I'm open-minded to this. It was clearly coming and the first film was pretty great, though I didn't ruin the experience by making sure I ignored most of the general public hype and the overplaying of the tunes.
I haven't seen Frozen yet, and at this point, I'm not sure I want to.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on March 13, 2015, 07:22:34 AM
No worse than replying with a shitload of returns and an "OK".

Hef :getoffmylawn:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 13, 2015, 07:31:46 AM
No worse than replying with a shitload of returns and an "OK".

Hef :getoffmylawn:
Those are two different things in my repertoire.  I follow a shitload of returns with something funny.  OK requires no returns.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on March 13, 2015, 05:23:14 PM
I was referring to Kotowboy anyway.


He's a tad on the hypocritical side.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on March 13, 2015, 05:24:14 PM
Zook secretly fancies me.

It's the only explanation for him constantly harassing me.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on March 13, 2015, 05:25:07 PM
Fair play I *am* beautiful though.  :hat
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on March 13, 2015, 05:37:06 PM
I guess there's no point in hiding it anymore.

I'm madly in anger love with you, Kotowboy.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on March 13, 2015, 05:43:40 PM
:hug:  :-* :-* :zydarscouch:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on March 13, 2015, 05:45:31 PM
^ Meh, saw it coming. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on March 13, 2015, 05:48:54 PM
^ Meh, saw it coming. :biggrin:

Zook will never see me....i'll leave it there.  :-[
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Orbert on March 13, 2015, 05:57:23 PM
Coming or otherwise?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on March 14, 2015, 09:21:29 PM
Watching Face/Off on Netflix. Liking it so far.

I feel like John Woo movies would be 20 minutes long if they didn't have slow-mo.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on March 15, 2015, 05:29:38 AM
Watching Face/Off on Netflix. Liking it so far.

I feel like John Woo movies would be 20 minutes long if they didn't have slow-mo.

The worst kind of slow-mo is that really cheap looking kind where it's all blurry.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on March 15, 2015, 10:19:22 AM
Watching Face/Off on Netflix. Liking it so far.

I feel like John Woo movies would be 20 minutes long if they didn't have slow-mo.

 :lol

SEE ANYTHING YOU LIKE?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: KevShmev on March 15, 2015, 05:39:16 PM
People will be enjoying those slow-mo effects for the next hundred years!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: ozzy554 on March 15, 2015, 06:59:56 PM
Watching Face/Off on Netflix. Liking it so far.

I feel like John Woo movies would be 20 minutes long if they didn't have slow-mo.

At least Woo's over the top style works with the ridiculousness of the movie. Unlike Mission Impossible 2
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: King Postwhore on March 15, 2015, 07:03:13 PM
Man, Big Hero 6 was great.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on March 15, 2015, 07:03:56 PM
Man, Big Hero 6 was great.

Yes I loved it.

Haven't laughed that much at a film since Hot Rod.

Beautiful visuals and that scene where he flies Baymax for the first time is amazing.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on March 15, 2015, 07:06:38 PM
Watching Face/Off on Netflix. Liking it so far.

I feel like John Woo movies would be 20 minutes long if they didn't have slow-mo.

At least Woo's over the top style works with the ridiculousness of the movie. Unlike Mission Impossible 2

Face / Off is just GREAT. It knows how stupid it is. And it's probably the last time Travolta OR Cage did a decent movie.

Cage did Joe recently though which was critically acclaimed but Travolta has never recovered from Battlefield Earth and his personal life

seems way more batshit insane.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on March 15, 2015, 07:14:00 PM
iii. Frank Darabont needs to direct another Stephen King movie.

Shawshank Redemption, The Green Mile & The Mist were all fantastic.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: ozzy554 on March 15, 2015, 07:17:34 PM
iii. Frank Darabont needs to direct another Stephen King movie.

Shawshank Redemption, The Green Mile & The Mist were all fantastic.

I'd love to see an adaptation of the long walk. Apparently Frank owns the movie rights for it and will get to it someday.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on March 15, 2015, 08:03:43 PM
Watching Face/Off on Netflix. Liking it so far.

I feel like John Woo movies would be 20 minutes long if they didn't have slow-mo.

At least Woo's over the top style works with the ridiculousness of the movie. Unlike Mission Impossible 2
Face / Off is just GREAT. It knows how stupid it is. And it's probably the last time Travolta OR Cage did a decent movie.

Cage did Joe recently though which was critically acclaimed but Travolta has never recovered from Battlefield Earth and his personal life

seems way more batshit insane.
I enjoyed From Paris With Love and Wild Hogs, but I can understand people not liking those. But Cage? Come on.

National Treasure 1 and 2
8MM
The Croods
Gone in 60 Seconds
Lord of War
Kick-Ass
Most people didn't like Sorcerer's Apprentice, but I loved it
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on March 15, 2015, 08:15:19 PM
Yeah to be fair - Cage still does the odd decent film now and again.

Travolta hasn't done anything good since Face Off and I don't think will ever recover from Battlefield Earth.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: ozzy554 on March 15, 2015, 08:32:25 PM
Watching Face/Off on Netflix. Liking it so far.

I feel like John Woo movies would be 20 minutes long if they didn't have slow-mo.

At least Woo's over the top style works with the ridiculousness of the movie. Unlike Mission Impossible 2
Face / Off is just GREAT. It knows how stupid it is. And it's probably the last time Travolta OR Cage did a decent movie.

Cage did Joe recently though which was critically acclaimed but Travolta has never recovered from Battlefield Earth and his personal life

seems way more batshit insane.
I enjoyed From Paris With Love and Wild Hogs, but I can understand people not liking those. But Cage? Come on.

National Treasure 1 and 2
8MM
The Croods
Gone in 60 Seconds
Lord of War
Kick-Ass
Most people didn't like Sorcerer's Apprentice, but I loved it

I really loved Drive Angry. It reminds me a lot of the movie Grindhouse. Also I'm a sucker for movies that use gimmicky 3D with things actually popping out at you.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on March 15, 2015, 11:52:05 PM
People will be enjoying those slow-mo effects for the next hundred years!

:clap:

Watching Face/Off on Netflix. Liking it so far.

I feel like John Woo movies would be 20 minutes long if they didn't have slow-mo.

At least Woo's over the top style works with the ridiculousness of the movie. Unlike Mission Impossible 2

Face / Off is just GREAT. It knows how stupid it is. And it's probably the last time Travolta OR Cage did a decent movie.

Cage did Joe recently though which was critically acclaimed but Travolta has never recovered from Battlefield Earth and his personal life

seems way more batshit insane.

Yeah, I can't really think of anything decent Travolta has done recently. Have you seen Joe yet? It was great!


National Treasure 1 and 2
8MM
The Croods
Gone in 60 Seconds
Lord of War
Kick-Ass
Most people didn't like Sorcerer's Apprentice, but I loved it

I haven't seen all of these, but I agree on 8MM and Kick Ass. Sorcerer's was ridiculous but very entertaining.

Also, Bringing Out the Dead. Loved that.
Not to mention Adaptation and Matchstick Men. The Weatherman was actually not bad, either. There's also Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans, which he was absolutely ridiculous in and I loved.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Prog Snob on March 16, 2015, 12:08:58 AM


National Treasure 1 and 2
8MM
The Croods
Gone in 60 Seconds
Lord of War
Kick-Ass
Most people didn't like Sorcerer's Apprentice, but I loved it

I haven't seen all of these, but I agree on 8MM and Kick Ass. Sorcerer's was ridiculous but very entertaining.

Also, Bringing Out the Dead. Loved that.
Not to mention Adaptation and Matchstick Men. The Weatherman was actually not bad, either. There's also Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans, which he was absolutely ridiculous in and I loved.

8MM was awesome.  Gone in 60 Seconds was excellent plus it had the added bonus of Angelina Jolie.  Matchstick Men is one of my favorite movies ever.  I really love movies about con men.  National Treasure 1 and 2 are also favorites of mine.  The others I haven't seen. 
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Lynxo on March 16, 2015, 04:48:58 AM
Since we're talking about Face/Off, I always found Nostalgia Critic's take on it really funny: https://channelawesome.com/nostalgia-critic-faceoff/ (https://channelawesome.com/nostalgia-critic-faceoff/)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bout to crash on March 16, 2015, 08:41:41 AM
Won't load for me :(
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Lynxo on March 16, 2015, 08:49:24 AM
Won't load for me :(
Here's a YouTube link instead: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O76j6XG1GE4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O76j6XG1GE4) :)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on March 16, 2015, 09:06:48 AM
nostalgia critic is awesome
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on March 16, 2015, 09:52:39 AM
His style has always bothered me. I follow a few youtube-reviewers, but after checking out nostalgia critic, he won't be one of them.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on March 16, 2015, 10:07:21 AM
It may be important to note (if you don't know, you may already), that the Nostalgia Critic is a character who does satirical reviews. They're not meant to be taken seriously.

Though I can see how people would get annoyed by him regardless.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on March 16, 2015, 10:14:06 AM
I like the Nostalgia Critic, but I treat him more as a comedian than an actual film critic. As Shadow Ninja already pointed out, NC is a fictional character, but most/all of his opinions are exaggerations of the actual opinions of Doug Walker (the actor/creator of NC). And that is where I often disagree with him. I tend to side more with his older brother, Rob.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zantera on March 16, 2015, 10:17:16 AM
I enjoy some of his reviews, and he sometimes has interesting analyzes of movies, and sees things in a different way. But I'm not always a fan of how he presents his opinions. I have a problem with the American comedy style of "loud is funny", and I have never found that to be the case. Some of his more hysterical moments of shouting as loud as possible just misses the mark so far for me, it's not even on the same map. But on the other hand, when he stays calm and discusses things, he usually has interesting things to say.

I like him, but I wouldn't rank him as high as Chris Stuckmann, Red Letter Media, Every Frame a Painting or Schmoes Know. (just to name a few)
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on March 16, 2015, 10:26:06 AM
I love Red Letter Media since they discuss films. They don't "only" tear them to shreds.

Even if they hate the film they at least try to find any positives.

When someone first linked me to their Jack & Jill review I thought it would be

Twenty minutes of two guys going "Huh huh this film sucks lol". But no. It was very intelligently

discussed.

And the Plinkett Star Wars Prequel reviews are great.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlackInk on March 16, 2015, 11:10:57 AM
I like him, but I wouldn't rank him as high as Chris Stuckmann, Red Letter Media, Every Frame a Painting or Schmoes Know. (just to name a few)

Chris Stuckmann is my favorite, I've been a fan of him for a long time. Jeremy Jahns is funny as well, but I watch him mostly because he's funny, and I don't agree with his opinions on some movies as much as I do Stuckmann.

I am subscribed to the schmoes, but I barely ever watch their reviews. The only ones I watch with them is their Walking Dead and their Game of Thrones reviews.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MetalJunkie on March 16, 2015, 01:58:24 PM
Watching The Lego movie.

TIL Will Ferrell sounds like Bob Odenkirk.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Accelerando on March 17, 2015, 01:58:26 AM
Just got back from a viewing of Chappie.

Lots of interesting ideas and beautiful visuals from Blomkamp....but the narrative fell short. I really enjoyed the idea that artificial intelligence can be "born" innocent like a child and seeing how it is raised can affect how it behaves. The biggest criticism seems to be that people hated two of the main characters, the South African rappers from Die Antwoord, but I feel like they worked because of their role in this film and their characters relationship with Chappie. Blomkamp can produce with these great ideas and themes, but I feel like after Elysium and this film, someone needs to start writing tight stories for him to work with
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on March 17, 2015, 03:13:02 AM
Concept/pitch video for The Leviathan:

The Leviathan -- Teaser (https://vimeo.com/122368314)

The details are amazing.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Accelerando on March 17, 2015, 04:15:31 AM
 :o

At first you had my curiosity. Now you have my attention.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Kotowboy on March 17, 2015, 06:26:07 AM
Neat !
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 17, 2015, 06:28:43 AM
Anyone else looking forward to Ex Machina?
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Fiery Winds on March 17, 2015, 02:51:23 PM
Concept/pitch video for The Leviathan:

The Leviathan -- Teaser (https://vimeo.com/122368314)

The details are amazing.

Looks good, but the sitting duck routine is  :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Zook on March 17, 2015, 08:40:36 PM
Cinderella was alright. Thank fuck there was no singing. Tim Burton's wife looks good with blonde hair.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: masterthes on March 18, 2015, 03:36:32 AM
I'm intrigued with Adam Sandler's new movie Pixels. Looks like he might finally have a hit on his hands
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 18, 2015, 03:38:22 AM
I got excited until I saw the cast. Great idea that will no doubt be ruined in a terrible run of the mill modern comedy movie. Give me an edit of just the video games, and maybe I'd watch it.
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: Mister Gold on March 18, 2015, 05:29:44 AM
Anyone else looking forward to Ex Machina?

I am! :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: masterthes on March 18, 2015, 05:50:17 AM
Oh, come on, Tyrion's wearing a mullet. What's not to like? It's comedy gold!
Title: Re: The Movie Thread v. Return of the Jedi
Post by: bosk1 on March 18, 2015, 02:54:52 PM
Start new ones for specific shows.  One giant thread for all of them is annoying.    :sosayweall: