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Dream Theater => Dream Theater => Topic started by: TheGreatPretender on July 30, 2014, 08:29:45 PM
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So, as some of you may know, I pretty much bought out the vocals for the entire DT catalog that's available on Jammit, which basically means I have access to vocal stems for a lot of DT songs. Listening to these, there are quite a few very interesting little things that I never really heard before, and even if you have, you might get a completely different experience, listening to them isolated, so I thought I'd share some that I found particularly interesting, so I wanted to share them. I won't post the entire vocal stems for every song, because I'm not even sure I'm allowed to, but I'll post snippets of parts I found particularly interesting. I'll share them one by one, as time goes on, so that we can allow for more discussion on all the individual tracks.
The first one I wanted to share was The Silent Man. It's a pretty straight forward song, but it does hold some VERY interesting backup vocals, some of which I couldn't really hear listening to the album version. So here they are, the first set is just the backup vocals from the first chorus, and the second set is both main and backup vocals from the second chorus, with the backup vocals turned up louder to accentuate the harmonies.
Pay attention, in particular to the backup vocals for the end of the chorus, "If they have to suffer". I couldn't hear that at all on the album, and I think it sounds very pleasant if not jarring at first.
The Silent Man (https://www.dropbox.com/s/h8jkbrxp60go5ak/The%20Silent%20Man.mp3)
Sample 2: Caught In A Web backup vocals to the chorus. Sung by John Purdell.
Caught In A Web (https://www.dropbox.com/s/1n9w9dl5p4xyax5/Caught%20In%20A%20Web%20Backup.mp3)
Sample 3: Various backup vocals from Home.
Home (https://www.dropbox.com/s/pxatuowkn1rkrp0/Home%20Backup.mp3)
Sample 4: Various backup vocals from Voices.
Voices (https://www.dropbox.com/s/cw43aya7mjn8bu6/Voices.mp3)
Sample 5: Octavarium, mainly backup vocals, but also included the main vocals for Intervals. Some interesting stuff!
Octavarium (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7sXuCMYLhpZemxOem9LVG5iTk0/view?usp=sharing)
Sample 6: Learning To Live, backup and some select lead vocals.
Learning To Live (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7sXuCMYLhpZTERLQzB1QS1VZWs/view?usp=sharing)
Sample 7: Lines In The Sand, backup vocals as well as the Doug Pinnick parts.
Lines In The Sand (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7sXuCMYLhpZTHNIZXdsOThDcVE/view?usp=sharing)
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Wow!! You are right, I had just noticed a few, but had no idea there were so many details in each one of them.Very interesting indeed, thanks for sharing!
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I've always heard those on the album, except the low pedal note E that doubles the lines. That one I still can't really hear on the album.
But I do love hearing isolated tracks like this! You hear the tonal quality of the voices in a way that you can't on the album.
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Well, you clearly have a better ear than I do, haha. When I heard that "To suffer" line, it blew my mind. There are so many amazing backup vocal parts on Awake. All in due time!
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"When there is balance" and "if they have to suffer" lines can't be James, can it? My first thought was Petrucci but A) I don't think he was doing backing vocals on Awake and B ) that really doesn't sound like him.
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"When there is balance" and "if they have to suffer" lines can't be James, can it? My first thought was Petrucci but A) I don't think he was doing backing vocals on Awake and B ) that really doesn't sound like him.
I can't remember his name, it was one of the recording engineers. He did a lot of backup vocals for Awake. I had the same reaction when I first heard backup vocals to Caught In A Web and it was this totally foreign voice singing them.
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"When there is balance" and "if they have to suffer" lines can't be James, can it? My first thought was Petrucci but A) I don't think he was doing backing vocals on Awake and B ) that really doesn't sound like him.
I can't remember his name, it was one of the recording engineers. He did a lot of backup vocals for Awake. I had the same reaction when I first heard backup vocals to Caught In A Web and it was this totally foreign voice singing them.
I recall the thread about that a while back. Am I remembering wrong, or did he die? Those backups on CIAW were awesome.
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I recall the thread about that a while back. Am I remembering wrong, or did he die? Those backups on CIAW were awesome.
Now that I'm looking it up, I believe it WAS John Purdell who did the backup vocals. And yes, he did die, sadly:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Purdell
And yeah, I'll be sure to share the CIAW backups again eventually.
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I think in a commentary for the drum cam of either LaB or Score Mike Portnoy said that he has a copy of John Purdell singing a lot of Ozzy's songs for No More Tears since, ya know, Ozzy relies on other people to write for him. It was used so Ozzy could learn the parts. What I wouldnt fucking give to hear that!
Anyway, I didn't know Purdell did backup vocals for Awake. Crazy!
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Well, since we're on the subject of the late Mr. Purdell, here's the next sample for those who haven't heard it. The legendary Caught In A Web backup vocals:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7sXuCMYLhpZa0NmS0dmdk1kazA/edit?usp=sharing
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Can't listen to the second link :-\
Those backup vocals in The Silent Man are amazing, while I heard most of those, the are some like the low voice than I never noticed. It's great when you can hear the stems and then you listen to the actual tracks with completely different ears.
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That's weird, the file I was editing didn't save correctly for some reason. Either way, it's fixed now, so go ahead!
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7sXuCMYLhpZczlXNmFNcjZIWnM/edit?usp=sharing
Here are some various backup vocals from home.
The first is the perfect example of what I didn't like about MP's vocals. Just such a whiny tone to his clean notes.
The second is harmonized with JLB, which is much better.
After that, it's the quietly spoken party from JLB right before the second verse.
After that, that's probably my favorite and most interesting part! The vocals you hear behind "Her ecstacy means so much to me," and that whole section in Chorus 1 and 2, I could always hear that there was some singing in the background, but I could never make it out.
Awesomely enough, they're singing, "Love, Deceit, Death", which is the backwards order of the 3 dances from Metropolis Part 1. That I thought was really awesome!
And lastly, you get to hear the harmony vocals to the last part of the chorus, which I thought were pretty cool.
Also, I couldn't resist posting this: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7sXuCMYLhpZdUQ3bE9LMnBRX0U/edit?usp=sharing
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Wow, thanks!! That Caught In A Web was amazing! They should hire that guy for backups. :lol
Yeah, Mike's voice clean... no good, I never actually minded them on the record though. Of course, James harmonizing with himself is always better. The Love, Deceit, Death part I never picked it up either(I knew something was there but didn't understand), amazing! :omg:
And the My Brotha all I can say is: :rollin :clap:
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Hey! This is nice! Can't you upload Metropolis Pt. 1's vocals? I'm dying to find the stems for that song, but Jammit is way too expensive.
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I always said MP's voice is fine for background harmony, and those vocal.s are no exception. It's just when he gets the idea to do main vocals, that's when it all falls apart (and requires major audio surgery)
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I always said MP's voice is fine for background harmony, and those vocal.s are no exception. It's just when he gets the idea to do main vocals, that's when it all falls apart (and requires major audio surgery)
100% agree.
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File won't let me download, but I've always loved MP's backup vocals, and Home is one of the better ones, especially that chorus with JP. That contrast of voices is really missing on the last 2 albums imo (especially ADTOE, which is vocally very sparse and bland).
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I have always heard "If they have to suffer". How can you not? Really curious.
Edit: Oh, the backing vocals? I still hear it, but this is still cool.
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File won't let me download, but I've always loved MP's backup vocals, and Home is one of the better ones, especially that chorus with JP. That contrast of voices is really missing on the last 2 albums imo (especially ADTOE, which is vocally very sparse and bland).
Ah man, you're missing out. Why won't it let you download?
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File won't let me download, but I've always loved MP's backup vocals, and Home is one of the better ones, especially that chorus with JP. That contrast of voices is really missing on the last 2 albums imo (especially ADTOE, which is vocally very sparse and bland).
Ah man, you're missing out. Why won't it let you download?
I have the same problem, seems like there is only a limited number of downloads allowed in one day or something like that.
I have always heard "If they have to suffer". How can you not? Really curious.
This, I don't really see how you could miss it :huh:
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File won't let me download, but I've always loved MP's backup vocals, and Home is one of the better ones, especially that chorus with JP. That contrast of voices is really missing on the last 2 albums imo (especially ADTOE, which is vocally very sparse and bland).
Ah man, you're missing out. Why won't it let you download?
What aprilethereal said. Says something about reaching the limit. I really wanted to hear it too, because I love hearing isolated tracks, and have collected quite a few multitracks.
Seconding the "if they have to suffer" thing. I sometimes sing that harmony when listening to it. The only part on the isolated track that I never heard clearly on the album was the low E that I mentioned before. The higher harmonies are pretty clear.
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This, I don't really see how you could miss it :huh:
I knew here was a harmony, I guess I just never really paid attention to what note was actually being sung or the quality of the voice. The main melody was always at the forefront and that's what my ear always caught. Of course, now I can't unhear the harmony when I listen to the studio version. :lol
As for the download limit... Guys! If you're gonna download the damn thing, at least make a comment on it, you lazy bums! I can see the view count.
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Sorry for not commenting :-[
I really like those CIAW backup vocals, someone needs to make 10 hours version of it :lol
And in Silent Man, I didn't know James was doing that massive vibrato back then, I really haven't heard it in song.
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You don't have to apologize. There just seem to be people who are commenting, and they're not even getting to hear the samples... Speaking of which, I'll reupload them onto a better server, I think.
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I get it.
Do you have Dropbox? Great service.
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Yeah, I don't know why I didn't think of it sooner.
The Silent Man (https://www.dropbox.com/s/h8jkbrxp60go5ak/The%20Silent%20Man.mp3)
Caught In A Web (https://www.dropbox.com/s/1n9w9dl5p4xyax5/Caught%20In%20A%20Web%20Backup.mp3)
Home (https://www.dropbox.com/s/pxatuowkn1rkrp0/Home%20Backup.mp3)
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Those Home backups were really interesting to hear, cool idea man, thanks!
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Yeah, well, I think there are some really interesting passages in a lot of DT songs, and it'd be much more fun to actually have people to discuss them with. :tup
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Also, I couldn't resist posting this: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7sXuCMYLhpZdUQ3bE9LMnBRX0U/edit?usp=sharing
:lol that's awesome, man
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I think this is a great thread! If there is any other interesting sections, I want definitely to hear them!
One note: I don't understand people's hate towards MP's vocals. They sound really nice for me. Good background singer IMO.
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I think this is a great thread! If there is any other interesting sections, I want definitely to hear them!
One note: I don't understand people's hate towards MP's vocals. They sound really nice for me. Good background singer IMO.
Well, I guess whether you like someone's voice or not is a matter of taste. And yeah, there are plenty of interesting sections I'll be sharing with you guys soon!
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Yeah, I've been slacking. Here are some backup vocals for Voices.
The first part is the pre-chorus harmonies, which aren't anything too special, but pretty cool non the less.
The next part is that little spoken word part, which I thought was Portnoy, but... Apparently not??
The third part is the most interesting to me. It's the quiet harmonies to the "I'm kneeling on the floor" part, and honestly, given the song's subject matter, something about the way the lyrics are half-whispered, makes it sound a bit creepy, and indeed insane. I really like it!
The last part is the harmonies to "Seen my diary on the newsstand." Again, nothing too crazy, but I thought it was cool non the less.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cw43aya7mjn8bu6/Voices.mp3
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Thanks for these, really cool! That whispered part in Voices is definitely a bit creepy when it's isolated like that!
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The next part is that little spoken word part, which I thought was Portnoy, but... Apparently not??
It was that rapper dude who was in the studio at the time.
Nothing too exciting in these vocals. Powerful lead vocals, but nothing fancy with the rest. Innocence Faded would be an interesting one for that album.
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Yeah, mainly I shared them for that whispering part. It just captivated me how haunting it is.
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These are pretty cool, my favorite so far is The Silent Man. :tup
Question: In Lie, I read the word lie in the liner notes in parentheses, and have read about it being whispered very low in the mix. No matter how hard I try, I can't hear it at all. Is it in the isolated vocal tracks?
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Unfortunately not. :( I could never hear them either, but if they ARE in the song, then they definitely weren't included into either the main vocal mix, nor the backup vocal mix. And I couldn't hear it in the instrumental mix either, so I dunno.
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Hey guys. I've been away a while.
Here are some vocals from Octavarium (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7sXuCMYLhpZemxOem9LVG5iTk0/view?usp=sharing). It's mainly the backup vocals, including some interesting (and weirdly autotuned it seems) harmonies. But my favorite part is the Intervals section, definitely. JLB's screams are very cool and interesting. And the whispers were something I never heard either.
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Nothing in there I hadn't heard before, but I like hearing it isolated.
JLB's earlier screams sound really weird, like an old homeless lady yelling at you for walking too close to her box home.
In Full Circle, I was never fully sure whether there was that octave vocal harmony, or whether the organ patch just blended with it to create the aural illusion of an octave overtone. It's nice to have that confirmed.
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Very nice to hear the isolated backing vocals for Octavarium! A lot of things that could go unheard. Thanks much!
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These are pretty cool, my favorite so far is The Silent Man. :tup
Question: In Lie, I read the word lie in the liner notes in parentheses, and have read about it being whispered very low in the mix. No matter how hard I try, I can't hear it at all. Is it in the isolated vocal tracks?
It's not so hard to hear them maybe your problem was that you was searching for them in wrong chorus. I hear them clearly but only in the last chorus. (BTW I also didn't hear them for a long time but one day I was listening to Lie in train and was really concentrating on the rhythm and suddenly the Did and Lie parts jumped out from mix on me so clearly).
After first part of the chorus (I won't) you can hear it eight times like this: DID(L) did(R) DID(L) did(R) DID(L) did(R) DID(L) did(R). (L) means left speaker, (R) means right speaker and case means volume (secondary "did" in between each main "did" is much less audible but it's there)
And then after second part of the chorus (I'll try) you can hear "lie" sixteen times like this: LIE(L) lie(R) LIE(L) lie(R) LIE(L) lie(R) LIE(L) lie(R) LIE(L) lie(R) LIE(L) lie(R) LIE(L) lie(R) LIE(L) lie(R)
The "Lie" part is a bit less audible than "Did" part, but the "DID" in the left speaker is relatively loud and very easy to hear when you concentrate and you don't mistake it with drums or some effects (it sounds like voice but it is used rhythmically not melodically).
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I have to say, I think the extra words are really cool as it puts an entirely different spin on the very context and meaning of the lyrics. I want to hear it but I unfortunately must remain a skeptic until I can... But I really can't hear it though. I'm trying to listen right now with the studio version of Lie from Awake with headphones and listened very carefully, but I'm just being blasted by the guitar riff after the lyric that it's supposed to come after. Honestly can't hear a thing. ???
Although to the topic creator, it's fascinating hearing these isolated vocals. I'd love to hear more. :biggrin:
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I have to say, I think the extra words are really cool as it puts an entirely different spin on the very context and meaning of the lyrics. I want to hear it but I unfortunately must remain a skeptic until I can... But I really can't hear it though. I'm trying to listen right now with the studio version of Lie from Awake with headphones and listened very carefully, but I'm just being blasted by the guitar riff after the lyric that it's supposed to come after. Honestly can't hear a thing. ???
I made this video to help you or anyone else interested to hear those words ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECYwNMf9PQQ&feature=youtu.be
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OMG I just discovered this. Awesome. I love hearing unheard stuff :hat
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I have to say, I think the extra words are really cool as it puts an entirely different spin on the very context and meaning of the lyrics. I want to hear it but I unfortunately must remain a skeptic until I can... But I really can't hear it though. I'm trying to listen right now with the studio version of Lie from Awake with headphones and listened very carefully, but I'm just being blasted by the guitar riff after the lyric that it's supposed to come after. Honestly can't hear a thing. ???
I made this video to help you or anyone else interested to hear those words ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECYwNMf9PQQ&feature=youtu.be
Thanks, that's first time I noticed that. Sounds really much like KevMo for me!
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JLB's earlier screams sound really weird, like an old homeless lady yelling at you for walking too close to her box home.
OMG, so this. :lol Especially the second part. And hearing the whispers after that made me laugh really hard. :lol
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I wonder what the direction was when he was in the recording booth for that.
MP: "Okay, James. Pretend like you're a 75 year old widow, you have 20 cats, and a bunch of annoying kids just accidentally hit your window with a soccer ball. Aaand go!"
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I have to say, I think the extra words are really cool as it puts an entirely different spin on the very context and meaning of the lyrics. I want to hear it but I unfortunately must remain a skeptic until I can... But I really can't hear it though. I'm trying to listen right now with the studio version of Lie from Awake with headphones and listened very carefully, but I'm just being blasted by the guitar riff after the lyric that it's supposed to come after. Honestly can't hear a thing. ???
I made this video to help you or anyone else interested to hear those words ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECYwNMf9PQQ&feature=youtu.be
Wow thank you. I can actually hear it! Or I can imagine it because of the visual prompts. :lol
Seriously though, it's far too low in the mix, too quiet. I like cool little extra subtle bits like this, but when it's just completely buried completely, the idea's almost wasted. Thanks for taking the time to make the video though. ;)
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These are pretty cool, my favorite so far is The Silent Man. :tup
Question: In Lie, I read the word lie in the liner notes in parentheses, and have read about it being whispered very low in the mix. No matter how hard I try, I can't hear it at all. Is it in the isolated vocal tracks?
Isn't that the voice you hear in the left speaker after the last chorus just before the instrumental, around 4:47 to 4:57? It's very low but you can hear somebody saying something. I am just not sure if he is saying "lie"
EDIT: Oh my, I hear it now! It's very audible in the last chorus, left speaker. After "I won't, I swear I won't" you will hear "Did Did Did Did" every third beat. Then after "I'll try, I swear I'll try" you will hear "Lie Lie Lie Lie Lie Lie Lie Lie" every third beat. Woohoo!
SECOND EDIT: So somebody actually already posted an explanation above. LOL. Anyway, I have been hearing the Lie whisper for years. It's the DID that I just heard now.
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7sXuCMYLhpZczlXNmFNcjZIWnM/edit?usp=sharing
Here are some various backup vocals from home.
The first is the perfect example of what I didn't like about MP's vocals. Just such a whiny tone to his clean notes.
I know what you mean about his whiny quality. It can be cringing by itself.
The thing is though, that is the magic of background vocals.
In many cases, background harmonies can favor people with otherwise irritating, or less-than-pleasant voices.
The whiny quality blends behind JLB's vocals in a way which creates an awesome harmony.
In other words, it's not uncommon create a better sounding harmony with one person who has an irritating voice, and another with a beautiful voice, than you can with 2 people with beautiful voices.
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7sXuCMYLhpZczlXNmFNcjZIWnM/edit?usp=sharing
Here are some various backup vocals from home.
The first is the perfect example of what I didn't like about MP's vocals. Just such a whiny tone to his clean notes.
I know what you mean about his whiny quality. It can be cringing by itself.
The thing is though, that is the magic of background vocals.
In many cases, background harmonies can favor people with otherwise irritating, or less-than-pleasant voices.
The whiny quality blends behind JLB's vocals in a way which creates an awesome harmony.
In other words, it's not uncommon create a better sounding harmony with one person who has an irritating voice, and another with a beautiful voice, than you can with 2 people with beautiful voices.
speaking of which, here's the backing vocals for one last time
https://www.mediafire.com/download/918r85tla2ya8a4/backupvocals.mp3
I really love the FADE AWAAAAAAAY bit in the song, so many portnoys at once
edit: I don't know why the audio quality is so poopy when clicking 'Listen'
this is a stereo 320kbps mp3 :P
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^^^ Hmm, I'm confused. Is there some Petrucci in there or is it all Portnoy? Sounds completely awesome though. I do miss Mike's harmonies, really enjoyed them in Black Clouds & Silver Linings, that album is just full of layered harmonies. (Not as keen on when he took lead, but it's not as bad as some would make it out to be ). :P
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Hey guys. I've been away a while.
Here are some vocals from Octavarium (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7sXuCMYLhpZemxOem9LVG5iTk0/view?usp=sharing). It's mainly the backup vocals, including some interesting (and weirdly autotuned it seems) harmonies. But my favorite part is the Intervals section, definitely. JLB's screams are very cool and interesting. And the whispers were something I never heard either.
Who is whispering in the "trapped inside this Octavarium" part? I can't recognize him.
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Hey guys. I've been away a while.
Here are some vocals from Octavarium (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7sXuCMYLhpZemxOem9LVG5iTk0/view?usp=sharing). It's mainly the backup vocals, including some interesting (and weirdly autotuned it seems) harmonies. But my favorite part is the Intervals section, definitely. JLB's screams are very cool and interesting. And the whispers were something I never heard either.
Who is whispering in the "trapped inside this Octavarium" part? I can't recognize him.
It's definitely MP.
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This thread is gold. :tup
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Hey guys. I've been away a while.
Here are some vocals from Octavarium (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7sXuCMYLhpZemxOem9LVG5iTk0/view?usp=sharing). It's mainly the backup vocals, including some interesting (and weirdly autotuned it seems) harmonies. But my favorite part is the Intervals section, definitely. JLB's screams are very cool and interesting. And the whispers were something I never heard either.
Who is whispering in the "trapped inside this Octavarium" part? I can't recognize him.
It's definitely MP.
Now when you mentioned it, you're right. It's :MP:
This thread is gold. :tup
Agreed!!! :tup
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This thread is gold. :tup
Thanks! Always happy to contribute! Considering that DT fans transcribe screenshots of computers into musical compositions just to hear new snippet's of DT music, it's obvious that the fans are passionate enough to be interested in hearing a new perspective on certain musical bits of the classic songs as well.
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All right, next up, Learning To Live.
I included all of the epicly majestic backup vocals into this one, but also a few of the lead vocals as well, just to see how they contrast.
There was a whole humming section in it that I could never hear in the original, so I included an instrumental lead-in for it to show where it's supposed to be for those who aren't sure. Also, that section I split into 3 parts: Backup part, Lead part and combined harmonics. So really, the humming only happens four times, but because I'm showcasing the different sections, you'll hear it 12 times.
Same goes for the F#, I included the backup, the lead, and the combined harmony
Enjoy!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7sXuCMYLhpZTERLQzB1QS1VZWs/view?usp=sharing
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Nice! LTL is my favourite song, so it was extra cool to hear this one, thanks!
Can you hear the humming section in the original now you know it's there? It's always seemed pretty audible to me, though I have listened to the song several hundred times :blush ;D
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I'm digging that last section (after the F#)
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Not sure if I've even noticed that humming before! If I have, I probably thought it was part of the keyboard patch of something. Very cool.
I'm curious, the L2L section you posted reminded me. Are the "Woooooooa, ooooooh, hhooo" bits there at the start of Metropolis before the vocals start? (about 1:41) Like how they come through on the demo version, I swear I remember someone saying they're still there, just mixed really low. But I don't hear any vocals in Metropolis until "The smile of Dawn".
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I've always noticed the humming bit, and thought it was pretty obvious, although I never noticed there was also a lower harmony to it too. I only recall hearing the higher lead humming line.
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Not sure if I've even noticed that humming before! If I have, I probably thought it was part of the keyboard patch of something. Very cool.
Yeah, exactly, I always just thought that's what it was too, so it kind of blended into the keyboards for me. I never realized that it was James.
I'm curious, the L2L section you posted reminded me. Are the "Woooooooa, ooooooh, hhooo" bits there at the start of Metropolis before the vocals start? (about 1:41) Like how they come through on the demo version, I swear I remember someone saying they're still there, just mixed really low. But I don't hear any vocals in Metropolis until "The smile of Dawn".
No, there's nothing at the start of Metropolis, before the lyrics. Although there are some things that the people at Jammit might not bother isolating, and just mix right into the instrumental (such as the Did and Lie), so that's not to say that it isn't true. There are a couple of background vocal parts in Hollow Years that got mixed into the instrumental. And oddly enough, for some reason, "This is not reality" in Voices did too, even though the rest of the spoken word part was isolated. So you never know.
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From facebook right now:
James Labrie
3 mins ·
Hey Everyone,
Hope you're all doing well. Played at Loudpark Festival last night and it was a great gig despite me having to contend with Strep throat. As a professional you have to accept the fact that sometimes the show must go on.
Anyway, noticed on DreamTheater Forum that Great Pretender has the vocal stems for that album and has mentioned that some others are doing back ground vocals. The fact is I did 99% of the BGV with a very select few being done by John Purdell. Hope this sheds some light on that subject. I haven't even heard those stems GP, I envy you. Anyway, take care everyone and see you out there.
James Labrie
2 mins ·
The album I was referring to was the Awake album. Have to check some of those out.
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Came to post that :metal
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He acknowledged us lowly folks!
I hope JLB's feeling better in time for the 30th for the Sydney show! :)
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Someone actually down voted that video. My guess is Kevin Moore wanted to keep that a secret.
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From facebook right now:
James Labrie
3 mins ·
Hey Everyone,
Hope you're all doing well. Played at Loudpark Festival last night and it was a great gig despite me having to contend with Strep throat. As a professional you have to accept the fact that sometimes the show must go on.
Anyway, noticed on DreamTheater Forum that Great Pretender has the vocal stems for that album and has mentioned that some others are doing back ground vocals. The fact is I did 99% of the BGV with a very select few being done by John Purdell. Hope this sheds some light on that subject. I haven't even heard those stems GP, I envy you. Anyway, take care everyone and see you out there.
James Labrie
2 mins ·
The album I was referring to was the Awake album. Have to check some of those out.
Holy crap. That just blew my mind!
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Dude, I just saw that! :yarr
We have got a lurker here, eh?
Anyway GP, even though I haven't commented on this thread in a while (I dont have much to add) I just want to say that I still love hearing these stems. Of course, praise from me pales in comparison to the praise you just got.
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Yeah... But now I wish when I signed up on DTF, I had used my real name. :lol
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From facebook right now:
James Labrie
3 mins ·
Hey Everyone,
Hope you're all doing well. Played at Loudpark Festival last night and it was a great gig despite me having to contend with Strep throat. As a professional you have to accept the fact that sometimes the show must go on.
Anyway, noticed on DreamTheater Forum that Great Pretender has the vocal stems for that album and has mentioned that some others are doing back ground vocals. The fact is I did 99% of the BGV with a very select few being done by John Purdell. Hope this sheds some light on that subject. I haven't even heard those stems GP, I envy you. Anyway, take care everyone and see you out there.
James Labrie
2 mins ·
The album I was referring to was the Awake album. Have to check some of those out.
:tup
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Holy, this blew my mind! Awesome! Especially Caught in a Web.
Some of the backup vocals are kind of creepy.
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Really entertaining stuff, GreatP. Thanks for digging all this up and sharing. So cool JLB gave you the nod :metal
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Now when I listen Octavarium that vox stem come to my mind and make me laugh. :lol
Great work, GP. :tup
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The LTL ones are incredible. Thank you for posting.
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Thanks guys! I'm loving the response lately. Leave it to JLB himself to bump the popularity of this thread, eh?
Well, here's the next one I thought was really cool, as I'm sure you guys will too: Lines In The Sand (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7sXuCMYLhpZTHNIZXdsOThDcVE/view?usp=sharing)
Interestingly enough, the secondary vocals done by Doug Pinnick, were actually mixed into the Lead vocal stem, and the preceeding parts done by the band members were mixed into the background stem.
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From facebook right now:
James Labrie
3 mins ·
Hey Everyone,
Hope you're all doing well. Played at Loudpark Festival last night and it was a great gig despite me having to contend with Strep throat. As a professional you have to accept the fact that sometimes the show must go on.
Anyway, noticed on DreamTheater Forum that Great Pretender has the vocal stems for that album and has mentioned that some others are doing back ground vocals. The fact is I did 99% of the BGV with a very select few being done by John Purdell. Hope this sheds some light on that subject. I haven't even heard those stems GP, I envy you. Anyway, take care everyone and see you out there.
James Labrie
2 mins ·
The album I was referring to was the Awake album. Have to check some of those out.
Holy crap. That just blew my mind!
Oh wow this is crazy! I had no idea that they checked this forum. I always assumed Portnoy did at one point, since he is so into the internet community, but not James.
Too cool.
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Wow, they are even cooler isolated!!
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Thanks guys! I'm loving the response lately. Leave it to JLB himself to bump the popularity of this thread, eh?
Well, here's the next one I thought was really cool, as I'm sure you guys will too: Lines In The Sand (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7sXuCMYLhpZTHNIZXdsOThDcVE/view?usp=sharing)
Interestingly enough, the secondary vocals done by Doug Pinnick, were actually mixed into the Lead vocal stem, and the preceeding parts done by the band members were mixed into the background stem.
I always liked those backup vocals on the first verse, and how it follows so closely to the lead melody, with a few deviations, sometimes only a tone apart, creating an interesting sound, not quite doubling, not quite a harmony.
The thing I find most interesting on FII is the use of early MP/JP vocals, before it was common on later albums. You can hear MP on that lower octave on that chorus.
I'd love to hear more FII stuff, such as the JP/MP vocals at the end of Hollow Years isolated, or even (don't laugh) the chorus bg vocals on BMS.
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Don't forget Derek Sherinian is also in the mix with MP and JP.
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Also, love Dug's vocals on pretty much anything. Soulful as fugg...
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I'd love to hear more FII stuff, such as the JP/MP vocals at the end of Hollow Years isolated, or even (don't laugh) the chorus bg vocals on BMS.
All in due time, my friend! :coolio
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:tup Very helpful thread.. Actually, I'm also a 'collector' of isolated DT tracks.. I could share the whole stuff, but I know that would carry to not precisely pleasant consequences for me.. Anyway, here's with what I contribute for now.. One of the "new-classics"... https://www.mediafire.com/listen/l4niaapw3y2ux3p/1-_On_the_Backs_of_Angels_-_Vocals.mp3
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:tup Very helpful thread.. Actually, I'm also a 'collector' of isolated DT tracks.. I could share the whole stuff, but I know that would carry to not precisely pleasant consequences for me.. Anyway, here's with what I contribute for now.. One of the "new-classics"... https://www.mediafire.com/listen/l4niaapw3y2ux3p/1-_On_the_Backs_of_Angels_-_Vocals.mp3
Cool. Which ones do you have?
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Dug's vocals sound much better isolated. I don't know what they did to them on the album, but I never cared for them.
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:tup Very helpful thread.. Actually, I'm also a 'collector' of isolated DT tracks.. I could share the whole stuff, but I know that would carry to not precisely pleasant consequences for me.. Anyway, here's with what I contribute for now.. One of the "new-classics"... https://www.mediafire.com/listen/l4niaapw3y2ux3p/1-_On_the_Backs_of_Angels_-_Vocals.mp3
Cool. Which ones do you have?
I have a lot of isolated tracks.. The files in mp3, not like you, though, the jammit ones... So the vast majority are guitar stems, guitar backingtracks, keys stems, and bass... Vocal stems I only have 15, but they're all unedited.. I mean except for OtBoA, in the rest there are the respective silences among the vocal lines.. However, these I have:
- Pull Me Under
- Wait for Sleep
- Learning to Live
- The Silent Man
- Scarred
- Space-Dye Vest
- You not Me
- Home
- One Last Time (2 tracks, with main and overlaid vocals)
- The Answer Lies Within
- These Walls
- Never Enough
- Constant Motion
- Wither
- On the Backs of Angels
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Oh cool! The only ones of those I don't have are the Constant Motion ones. I don't suppose you could upload them?
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:tup Very helpful thread.. Actually, I'm also a 'collector' of isolated DT tracks.. I could share the whole stuff, but I know that would carry to not precisely pleasant consequences for me.. Anyway, here's with what I contribute for now.. One of the "new-classics"... https://www.mediafire.com/listen/l4niaapw3y2ux3p/1-_On_the_Backs_of_Angels_-_Vocals.mp3
Cool. Which ones do you have?
I have a lot of isolated tracks.. The files in mp3, not like you, though, the jammit ones... So the vast majority are guitar stems, guitar backingtracks, keys stems, and bass... Vocal stems I only have 15, but they're all unedited.. I mean except for OtBoA, in the rest there are the respective silences among the vocal lines.. However, these I have:
- Pull Me Under
- Wait for Sleep
- Learning to Live
- The Silent Man
- Scarred
- Space-Dye Vest
- You not Me
- Home
- One Last Time (2 tracks, with main and overlaid vocals)
- The Answer Lies Within
- These Walls
- Never Enough
- Constant Motion
- Wither
- On the Backs of Angels
I have every single stem, vocals to instrument for Overture 1928 and One Last Time, perhaps we could set up an exchange?
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Oh cool! The only ones of those I don't have are the Constant Motion ones. I don't suppose you could upload them?
Right... That one's not on Jammit.. You said "ones" btw.. So do you want the whole tracks from CM or just the vocals?.. Here's the good news anyway: I have ALL those files I mentioned (and ALL the ones I have) already uploaded in MF.. In fact, recently I suffered the contrariety of losing everything in my pc, but fortunately the files I had in the cloud now I was able to recover.. (Advice: save your valuable files in some place safe...) Almost 2GB of isolated tracks I had there... and I still have, luckily..
So, here's the Constant Motion Vocal Stem: https://www.mediafire.com/download/mbhhe1ieg9x4ieh/3-+Constant+Motion+-+Vocals.mp3
If you want the others, just ask for it (from this song I actually have all the separate instruments); or anyone else who want any other stem (guitars, keys, bass, drums, guitar backingtracks) from several songs.... no problem at all.. Send me MP or whatever... I haven't them all.. But I have plenty...
I could also write the whole "catalogue" of tracks I have.. But I don't know what are the limits to share links on the forum... Just let me know if I should do it.. I'd have no problem at all.. :tup
I have every single stem, vocals to instrument for Overture 1928 and One Last Time, perhaps we could set up an exchange?
We already did.. Right here: https://www.youtube.com/user/147pablox/discussion
I'm THAT Pablo... :D
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holy crap, what's up man :D
its a small world
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I guess it's just a small DT-fans-who-want-isolated-DT-tracks-world... ;D
But yeah, what a coincidence!..