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Title: New here - couple of simple questions
Post by: connolla on July 08, 2014, 09:42:17 AM
Hey guys, I've been lurking here for a while but just made an account to see if I could get some answers to some questions. Apologies if this stuff has been answered before, I looked but didn't find anything.

1. During the chorus in "Home", MP & JP are singing some weird background stuff that I've never been able to make out. It doesn't seem to be on any lyric sheets or on the web -- do any of you guys know what they're saying?

2. "Erotomania" is commonly referred to as a joke song on this site and by the band members. Why is that?

Thanks for the help!
Title: Re: New here - couple of simple questions
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on July 08, 2014, 10:10:59 AM
I've never heard anyone refer to Erotomania as a joke song.
Title: Re: New here - couple of simple questions
Post by: KevShmev on July 08, 2014, 10:13:18 AM
Same here. 

Regarding the background stuff in Home, some of it is probably wordless vocals for effect, and some of it might be singing a key word from the chorus and letting it hang in the background while JLB sings the lead vocal over it.  I'd have to listen closely to say for sure.
Title: Re: New here - couple of simple questions
Post by: BlobVanDam on July 08, 2014, 10:14:12 AM
Hey guys, I've been lurking here for a while but just made an account to see if I could get some answers to some questions. Apologies if this stuff has been answered before, I looked but didn't find anything.

1. During the chorus in "Home", MP & JP are singing some weird background stuff that I've never been able to make out. It doesn't seem to be on any lyric sheets or on the web -- do any of you guys know what they're saying?

2. "Erotomania" is commonly referred to as a joke song on this site and by the band members. Why is that?

Thanks for the help!

1. Not sure on that one. I've never been able to quite make it out.

2. I recall that the song originated as the band messing around as a joke, and then it got developed into Erotomania. That's probably what you're thinking of. Beyond that, it's not what anyone would call a joke song.

Same here. 

Regarding the background stuff in Home, some of it is probably wordless vocals for effect, and some of it might be singing a key word from the chorus and letting it hang in the background while JLB sings the lead vocal over it.  I'd have to listen closely to say for sure.

It sounds like there are different vowel sounds, so I think it is key words, perhaps not directly from the chorus, but related to the meaning.
Title: Re: New here - couple of simple questions
Post by: connolla on July 08, 2014, 11:41:20 AM
Thanks, guys. Those have been bugging me for a while now.
Title: Re: New here - couple of simple questions
Post by: Ħ on July 08, 2014, 05:35:04 PM
Mike and John sing, "Love! Deceit! Death!"

The three dances from Metropolis Pt. 1.

 :hat
Title: Re: New here - couple of simple questions
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 08, 2014, 05:48:34 PM
Raw Dog is DT's joke song. ;D
Title: Re: New here - couple of simple questions
Post by: Setlist Scotty on July 08, 2014, 06:11:37 PM
As was mentioned, DT never considered Erotomania a joke song, but when JP was interviewed for the IaW fanzine back in 1994 and Neil Elliott (the interviewer) commented that it was tight and really flows well, JP responded:
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You think so? It's strange that it would flow well, because it's an example of sections from a long time ago meshed together with new ideas.
I think I recall reading elsewhere that they kind of laughed at the craziness of the song, just as I believe they laughed at the craziness of the instrumental section in TDEN after they figured it all out. So just because they laughed at something doesn't mean that it is a joke song.
Title: Re: New here - couple of simple questions
Post by: Kotowboy on July 08, 2014, 06:59:20 PM
At least he didn't ask why Pull Me Under
Title: Re: New here - couple of simple questions
Post by: bosk1 on July 08, 2014, 08:12:34 PM
Mike and John sing, "Love! Deceit! Death!"

The three dances from Metropolis Pt. 1.

 :hat

Winner.
Title: Re: New here - couple of simple questions
Post by: Cable on July 08, 2014, 08:55:32 PM
At least he didn't ask why Pull Me Under

 :tup


I think I recall reading elsewhere that they kind of laughed at the craziness of the song, just as I believe they laughed at the craziness of the instrumental section in TDEN after they figured it all out. So just because they laughed at something doesn't mean that it is a joke song.


As much I am lukewarm about Erotomania, the big JP solo works better in it than PMU/Oliver's Twist. With it, to me it is similar in style to the crazy part of TDEN.
Title: Re: New here - couple of simple questions
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on July 08, 2014, 11:37:40 PM
I recall reading that JP said that he and Kevin Moore were playing around with some concepts that were deliberately nonsensical, which became the opening riff.   This should not be misconstrued as a joke -- as it is only an unconventional approach to composing an unconventional song.
Title: Re: New here - couple of simple questions
Post by: connolla on July 09, 2014, 09:50:50 AM
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At least he didn't ask why Pull Me Under

Ugh

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Mike and John sing, "Love! Deceit! Death!"

The three dances from Metropolis Pt. 1.

Works for me.