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Title: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: Theme Dreater on March 18, 2014, 07:44:56 PM
I'm sure this has been pointed out before, but has anyone ever noticed that the word "dream" occurs lyrically at least once in every studio album DT has ever released? I wonder if that was intentional?
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: The Letter M on March 18, 2014, 08:19:13 PM
Occurrences of "dream(s/ed/ing)" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 3
IAW - 6
Awake - 4
FII - 2
SFAM - 5
SDOIT - 4
TOT - 1
8VM - 2
SC - 2
BC&SL - 2
ADTOE - 3
DT12 - 3

Very interesting find! I think it's not TOO much of a coincidence, but neat otherwise!

-Marc.
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 18, 2014, 09:08:17 PM
I remember once before someone ran all of DT's lyrics into a sort of tag cloud to see the most commonly used words. I believe the usage of the word "dream" was in fact the reason that was done. I can't remember what other words popped up, so hopefully someone else still has that, or is willing to do an updated version that includes the newer albums since then.
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: Invisible on March 19, 2014, 02:57:31 AM
Great catch! The most surprising for me was that Train of Thought almost doesn't make it. I'd love to see that tag cloud, by the way.
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: Mladen on March 19, 2014, 03:25:45 AM
That's some pretty cool statistics, M.  :tup
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: Zook on March 19, 2014, 03:33:53 AM
I think Nightwish has the word wish in every single one of their songs.
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: twanky on March 19, 2014, 04:52:51 AM
Similar to Ronnie James Dio and his fixation with Rainbows  :angel:
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: ZKX-2099 on March 19, 2014, 08:15:29 AM
Truth in advertising.
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: Mebert78 on March 19, 2014, 08:22:04 AM
On a related note, every Dream Theater studio album title up until Octavarium actually had a dream/reality/mind-related theme to it:

When Dream and Day Unite
Images and words
Awake
Falling Into Infinity
Scenes From a Memory
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
Train of Thought

Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 19, 2014, 09:43:41 AM
Occurrences of "dream(s/ed/ing)" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 3
IAW - 6
Awake - 4
FII - 2
SFAM - 5
SDOIT - 4
TOT - 1
8VM - 2
SC - 2
BC&SL - 2
ADTOE - 3
DT12 - 3
I knew it would be you.
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: The Letter M on March 19, 2014, 11:08:33 AM
Occurrences of "dream(s/ed/ing)" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 3
IAW - 6
Awake - 4
FII - 2
SFAM - 5
SDOIT - 4
TOT - 1
8VM - 2
SC - 2
BC&SL - 2
ADTOE - 3
DT12 - 3
I knew it would be you.

What, am I *that* predictable now? :facepalm: :lol

-Marc.
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: Invisible on March 19, 2014, 12:23:54 PM
On a related note, every Dream Theater studio album title up until Octavarium actually had a dream/reality/mind-related theme to it:

When Dream and Day Unite
Images and words
Awake
Falling Into Infinity
Scenes From a Memory
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
Train of Thought
Add that to the fact that FII was originally named Stream of Conciousness, JP always had a fixation with mind issues :lol.
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: ZKX-2099 on March 19, 2014, 01:25:47 PM
You could say his mind was beside himself.
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: Nearmyth on March 19, 2014, 01:32:54 PM

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Add that to the fact that FII was originally named Stream of Conciousness, JP always had a fixation with mind issues :lol.
[/quote]

Really? I didn't know that :lol That makes sense though, I always thought it was peculiar when LaBie sang "in a stream of consciousness" in Lines In The Sand.
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: Another_Won on March 19, 2014, 01:57:20 PM
I think the other words were "door", "water" and "friend"
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: GasparXR on March 19, 2014, 02:24:42 PM
On a related note, every Dream Theater studio album title up until Octavarium actually had a dream/reality/mind-related theme to it:

When Dream and Day Unite
Images and words
Awake
Falling Into Infinity
Scenes From a Memory
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
Train of Thought



I don't know whether Dream Theater is too obvious to add to the list or too much of a stretch because it's named after the band. :lol
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: TheGreatPretender on March 19, 2014, 03:00:27 PM
Justify/Justified seems like another word that's quite frequently used by DT.
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: The Letter M on March 19, 2014, 03:20:15 PM
I think the other words were "door", "water" and "friend"

Occurrences of "door(s)" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 2
IAW - 2
Awake - 2
FII - 1
SFAM - 4
SDOIT - 4
TOT - 1
8VM - 0
SC - 0
BC&SL - 1
ADTOE - 0
DT12 - 0

Occurrences of "water(s)" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 1
IAW - 4
Awake - 2
FII - 2
SFAM - 0
SDOIT - 0
TOT - 1
8VM - 0
SC - 1
BC&SL - 1
ADTOE - 2
DT12 - 1

Occurrences of "friend(s)" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 0
IAW - 0
Awake - 1
FII - 0
SFAM - 2
SDOIT - 2
TOT - 2
8VM - 0
SC - 1
BC&SL - 2
ADTOE - 0
DT12 - 0

Occurrences of "justify/justified" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 0
IAW - 0
Awake - 0
FII - 0
SFAM - 0
SDOIT - 2
TOT - 2
8VM - 0
SC - 0
BC&SL - 0
ADTOE - 0
DT12 - 1

Occurrences of "love(s/ed/ing)/loving" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 1
IAW - 7
Awake - 4
ACOS - 1
FII - 1
SFAM - 11
SDOIT - 5
TOT - 4
8VM - 2
SC - 3
BC&SL - 4
ADTOE - 1
DT12 - 5

-Marc.
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: 425 on March 19, 2014, 03:21:21 PM
I think Nightwish has the word wish in every single one of their songs.

It actually only took me one try to find a counterexample: Storytime.

However, they definitely do have more than their share of recurring lyrics. Many of the songs on the album Once have the word "once," and most of Imaginaerum has "awe." And, of course, there's the terms that Tuomas personally likes to use a lot, like "Dead Boy" or "Ocean Soul."
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: JayOctavarium on March 19, 2014, 03:22:10 PM
How many times do "I" "me" or "my" appear? I bet it's a lot. Selfish assholes....
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: The Letter M on March 19, 2014, 03:31:11 PM
How many times do "I" "me" or "my" appear? I bet it's a lot. Selfish assholes....

Occurrences of "I/me" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 17
IAW - 53
Awake - 35
FII - 71
SFAM - 55
SDOIT - 62
TOT - 7
8VM - 88
SC - 90
BC&SL - 35
ADTOE - 26
DT12 - 12

-Marc.
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on March 19, 2014, 03:47:29 PM
It sometimes feels like "grace" shows up quite a bit in DT's lyrics.

But I would bet that the word "the" and "and" pop up a lot more often, not entirely sure though.
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: djbj on March 19, 2014, 04:04:02 PM
It would be really cool if someone made a video in this style https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrrnySxbuE8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrrnySxbuE8) for "Dream Theater likes Dreams". Though they evidently don't like dreams quite as much as Dio likes the night or Metallica likes death...
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: Another_Won on March 19, 2014, 04:11:58 PM
I think the other words were "door", "water" and "friend"

Occurrences of "door(s)" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 2
IAW - 2
Awake - 2
FII - 1
SFAM - 4
SDOIT - 4
TOT - 1
8VM - 0
SC - 0
BC&SL - 1
ADTOE - 0
DT12 - 0

Occurrences of "water(s)" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 1
IAW - 4
Awake - 2
FII - 2
SFAM - 0
SDOIT - 0
TOT - 1
8VM - 0
SC - 1
BC&SL - 1
ADTOE - 2
DT12 - 1

Occurrences of "friend(s)" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 0
IAW - 0
Awake - 1
FII - 0
SFAM - 2
SDOIT - 2
TOT - 2
8VM - 0
SC - 1
BC&SL - 2
ADTOE - 0
DT12 - 0

I just looked at my post in this thread https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=32157.0 to come up with those words.

I don't know what I was thinking . . .
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: ? on March 20, 2014, 12:04:55 AM
How many times do "I" "me" or "my" appear? I bet it's a lot. Selfish assholes....

Occurrences of "I/me" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 17
IAW - 53
Awake - 35
FII - 71
SFAM - 55
SDOIT - 62
TOT - 7
8VM - 88
SC - 90
BC&SL - 35
ADTOE - 26
DT12 - 12

-Marc.
So the actual reason why SC isn't a good album is that they were so full of themselves when making it :neverusethis:

But seriously, I find it funny that most of the albums with the most occurrences of "dream" are my favorites :D
It would be really cool if someone made a video in this style https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrrnySxbuE8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrrnySxbuE8) for "Dream Theater likes Dreams". Though they evidently don't like dreams quite as much as Dio likes the night or Metallica likes death...
There's at least one (maybe two) video like that; it was "Dream Theater in 15 seconds" or something like that. There was also a "DT likes doors" video with various lines including "door".
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: Theme Dreater on March 20, 2014, 02:54:09 AM
How many times do "I" "me" or "my" appear? I bet it's a lot. Selfish assholes....

Occurrences of "I/me" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 17
IAW - 53
Awake - 35
FII - 71
SFAM - 55
SDOIT - 62
TOT - 7
8VM - 88
SC - 90
BC&SL - 35
ADTOE - 26
DT12 - 12

-Marc.

Right, so how many time does the word "you" get mentioned? I'm pretty pretty sure DT said themselves that it's all about you and not me.
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: Invisible on March 20, 2014, 06:13:22 AM

Add that to the fact that FII was originally named Stream of Conciousness, JP always had a fixation with mind issues :lol.
[/quote]

Really? I didn't know that :lol That makes sense though, I always thought it was peculiar when LaBie sang "in a stream of consciousness" in Lines In The Sand.
[/quote]
They changed it because the rest of the guys and I think the record guys thought it was too pretentious. Like "Falling Into Infinity" isn't :lol. He got his revenge with the instrumental, although I was never sure if it was because of that or the lyrical theme of Vacant(falling into a coma, or unconscious).
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: Invisible on March 20, 2014, 06:31:26 AM
By the way, is The Letter M a bot? Like DTF Siri? If you look at his answers on this thread, it seems that way :lol.
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: Jaffa on March 20, 2014, 10:06:26 AM
No, he's just like that.   :lol
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: ToT-147 on March 22, 2014, 03:52:39 PM
Occurrences of "dream(s/ed/ing)" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 3
IAW - 6
Awake - 4
FII - 2
SFAM - 5
SDOIT - 4
TOT - 1
8VM - 2
SC - 2
BC&SL - 2
ADTOE - 3
DT12 - 3

Very interesting find! I think it's not TOO much of a coincidence, but neat otherwise!

-Marc.

So TOT it's the only one in to having it just 1 time.. which it's the best one IMO: "This undying dream" (in ES).. You have TDS there, the "Dream" concerned and even a vague "under-dog"..  :eek
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: ToT-147 on March 23, 2014, 08:57:10 PM
Occurrences of "dream(s/ed/ing)" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 3
IAW - 6
Awake - 4
FII - 2
SFAM - 5
SDOIT - 4
TOT - 1
8VM - 2
SC - 2
BC&SL - 2
ADTOE - 3
DT12 - 3

Very interesting find! I think it's not TOO much of a coincidence, but neat otherwise!

-Marc.

You've forgotten ACOS..

A single occurrence:

"I was blinded by a paaaaaradise... Utopiaaa hiiiiiigh in the skyyyy... A dream that onlyyyyy drowned meeeee... Deep in sooorrooooow, wondering whyyyyyy..."
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: ToT-147 on March 27, 2014, 08:48:07 PM
Occurrences of "dream(s/ed/ing)" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 3
IAW - 6
Awake - 4
FII - 2
SFAM - 5
SDOIT - 4
TOT - 1
8VM - 2
SC - 2
BC&SL - 2
ADTOE - 3
DT12 - 3

Very interesting find! I think it's not TOO much of a coincidence, but neat otherwise!

-Marc.

And this recurring stat haunted my dreams.. :lol It inspired me to make a video..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-6vJZpjaS4
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: Invisible on March 28, 2014, 04:56:12 PM
Good job! Although nit picking you forgot The Way It Used To Be(B Side on Cleaning Out The Closet)

"I lay down and enter a dream
Unlike anywhere I've been
All is silent and sweet"


 :angel:
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: Theme Dreater on March 29, 2014, 02:20:05 AM
Occurrences of "dream(s/ed/ing)" on DT albums (not counting repeats in choruses):
WDADU - 3
IAW - 6
Awake - 4
FII - 2
SFAM - 5
SDOIT - 4
TOT - 1
8VM - 2
SC - 2
BC&SL - 2
ADTOE - 3
DT12 - 3

Very interesting find! I think it's not TOO much of a coincidence, but neat otherwise!

-Marc.

And this recurring stat haunted my dreams.. :lol It inspired me to make a video..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-6vJZpjaS4

:D

That's awesome, well done.
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: RoeDent on March 29, 2014, 09:22:30 AM
What about the word "theater"?
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: Hayden on March 29, 2014, 10:20:45 AM
Constant/constantly would surely have to be up there as well.
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: ToT-147 on March 29, 2014, 11:22:34 AM
Good job! Although nit picking you forgot The Way It Used To Be(B Side on Cleaning Out The Closet)

"I lay down and enter a dream
Unlike anywhere I've been
All is silent and sweet"


 :angel:

In fact, I didn't forgot that one.. I've also taken into account Your Majesy, Vital Star and A Vision.. But when I started putting these together, I realized that CC's voice was going to ruin the whole video for good.. So I erased them, under the reason that they're not official songs.. Then...  :blush I also had to erase TWIUTB.. Sorry fot that.. :smiley:

What about the word "theater"?

Is not in their entire catalogue.. Not even once..
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: djbj on March 30, 2014, 08:25:11 PM
Quote
What about the word "theater"?

Is not in their entire catalogue.. Not even once..

The only song I can think of that uses the word "theater" in the lyrics is "You Oughta Know" by Alanis Morissette, which has led me to imagine the line going line this: "Would she go down on you in a Dream Theater?"
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: Invisible on March 30, 2014, 10:44:59 PM

In fact, I didn't forgot that one.. I've also taken into account Your Majesy, Vital Star and A Vision.. But when I started putting these together, I realized that CC's voice was going to ruin the whole video for good.. So I erased them, under the reason that they're not official songs.. Then...  :blush I also had to erase TWIUTB.. Sorry fot that.. :smiley:
Too bad :(, I love that song, and the others are Majesty stuff but I see your point.

By the way, I notice the word "awake"(wake, awaken, etc) appears quite often, at least on their early stuff, someone up to mention how many times? :D
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: ToT-147 on March 30, 2014, 11:15:06 PM
Yeah, in fact I've searched for that one before.. Not too many.. These are the songs or parts of songs in which has appeared the word "awake/n/ned/ning" or "wake/n":

-Surrounded -Under a Glass Moon -Caught in a Web -Innocence Faded -The Silent Man -New Millenium -Lines in the Sand -Through Her Eyes -One Last Time -Misunderstood -Losing Time -Medicate (Awakening) -Forsaken -A Nightmare to Remember -Bridges in the Sky -Breaking All Illusions

No occurrences in the latest album.. Not counting False AWAKENING Suite, of course.. ;)
Title: Re: A recurring lyric haunting my dreams
Post by: The Letter M on April 21, 2014, 04:40:58 PM
Also realized that all of DT's albums, EXCEPT BC&SL, feature some form of the word "blind", be it "blind", "blinds", "blinded", "blinding", or "blindly", at least once somewhere on each album.

-Marc.