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Poll
Question: Which of the following do you prefer?
Option 1: I&W/Awake votes: 52
Option 2: SFAM/SDOIT votes: 73
Title: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: cygnusx1jg on February 06, 2014, 08:12:32 AM
Based on some comments on the first one, I'm thinking this one will be a lot closer.
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: GasparXR on February 06, 2014, 08:13:39 AM
SFAM and SDOIT as I said in the other thread. Each pair is just as consistent, but I like these albums a bit better.
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: bl5150 on February 06, 2014, 08:16:44 AM
I&W and Awake and by further this time.
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: jakepriest on February 06, 2014, 08:20:29 AM
SFAM > SDOIT > Awake > ToT > ADToE > I&W
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on February 06, 2014, 08:23:26 AM
Still the same.
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: cygnusx1jg on February 06, 2014, 08:24:54 AM
IMO the order would be:

SFAM(10) > SDOIT(9.9) > I&W(9.7) = ADToE(9.7) > Awake(9.5) > ToT(7.5)
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: ? on February 06, 2014, 08:34:00 AM
Awake > I&W > 6D > Scenes

Easy choice.
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: mikeyd23 on February 06, 2014, 08:38:37 AM
I would have to go with SFAM and SDOIT.  On any given day I would list I&W, SFAM, and SDOIT as my top three DT albums.  Where each album falls in my top three depends on the day, so all three are considered great in my mind.  Awake does fall lower in my rankings, and therefore pulls the I&W/Awake pairing below the SFAM/SDOIT pairing.

I'm curious to see how the voting goes for this one... I have a feeling it might be pretty close.
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: Siddhartha on February 06, 2014, 09:01:48 AM
SFAM SDOIT by far.

Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: OsMosis2259 on February 06, 2014, 09:07:35 AM
SFAM SDOIT
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: tofee35 on February 06, 2014, 09:11:22 AM
SFAM and SDOIT cannot be beat. The musicianship, concepts, variety, production quality, hooks, creativity all go to SFAM and SDOIT. In my book it isn't close.

-Tof
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: j on February 06, 2014, 09:18:07 AM
I&W and Awake by a long shot.

-J
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: Tom Bombadil on February 06, 2014, 09:43:28 AM
Awake and I&W. Still not even close.
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: Laughingplace56 on February 06, 2014, 10:05:56 AM
SFAM and SDOIT are my favorite albums, Awake, I&W and DT12 are somewhere (along with ToT) in the 3-6 range, and ADToE is 7. So the pairings for me go

SFAM/SDOIT
I&W/Awake
DT12/ADToE

Love all 6 albums, but SFAM/SDOIT are unbeatable in my eyes.
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: Nekov on February 06, 2014, 10:53:25 AM
SFAM & SDOIT, both top 3 albums.
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: Kotowboy on February 06, 2014, 11:12:48 AM
No Contest for me. Awake is boring and SFAM - SDOIT are the two best albums besides Octavarium for me.

Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: krands85 on February 06, 2014, 11:28:47 AM
Quote from: j on February 06, 2014, 09:18:07 AM
I&W and Awake by a long shot.

-J
This. Images and Words is my favourite album ever and while I prefer Scenes to Awake, 6D has never really clicked for me.

I&W>>>Scenes>>Awake>>>>>>>6D
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: KevShmev on February 06, 2014, 11:29:11 AM
I&W and Scenes are basically 2a and 2b for me, as far as DT albums go.

But Awake is numero uno, while 6DOIT is 4th, so the first option gets the nod.
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: Dark Castle on February 06, 2014, 02:17:43 PM
First option, that was easy.

6 Degrees is cool and all, but I don't get why it's regarded as their best. First disc has a lot of filler, and 6 Degrees the song is such a chore to listen through all the way.
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: Jaffa on February 06, 2014, 02:33:50 PM
Gonna have to go with SFAM and SDOIT.  It always pains me to vote against Images and Words, which is definitely my favorite DT album, but SFAM and SDOIT are third and fourth in my rankings, while Awake is probably sixth or seventh.  On average, and in terms of overall consistency, the second group wins for me. 
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: jakepriest on February 06, 2014, 02:51:07 PM
Quote from: Dark Castle on February 06, 2014, 02:17:43 PM
First disc has a lot of filler

No.
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: Jaffa on February 06, 2014, 02:53:57 PM
I don't know if I would exactly call it 'filler', but I could definitely live without The Great Debate. 
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on February 06, 2014, 03:34:51 PM
:sad:





.....ARE YOU JUSTIFIED?!
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: Kotowboy on February 06, 2014, 04:23:09 PM
Not sure how an album of 5 tracks can have a "lot" of filler :P

And The Great Debate is amazing.
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on February 06, 2014, 04:24:10 PM
Well, if one track were filler, then it would be a lot of filler, since the tracks are generally quite long.

I don't think SDOIT really has any filler, though.
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: Dark Castle on February 06, 2014, 04:28:26 PM
Quote from: Kotowboy on February 06, 2014, 04:23:09 PM
Not sure how an album of 5 tracks can have a "lot" of filler :P

And The Great Debate is amazing.
Well if you look at it like that, then yeah, but if you go beyond "lol only 5 tracks" there's obviously a shit ton of music in those 5 tracks. And I find a lot of it passable.
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: bl5150 on February 06, 2014, 04:35:48 PM
I agree - if I could split the 2 SDOIT discs in my rankings then Disc 1 would be right near the bottom of DT's catalogue for me.  Great musicianship and progressiveness but so different to the DT music I really love (all the above + big melodies).  It's always interesting to see how so many of us agree wholeheartedly on one album (I&W for example - for the most part) and then totally different on others.



Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: Outcrier on February 06, 2014, 04:38:34 PM
Fab four hm... I voted for SFAM-SDOIT based on personal enjoyment but IAW-Awake are even greater maybe.
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: CharlesPL on February 06, 2014, 06:03:56 PM

I&W/Awake
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: Saxman on February 06, 2014, 06:07:59 PM
Awake is my favorite DT album, and I&W is almost just as good. 
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: bosk1 on February 06, 2014, 06:10:27 PM
Sorry, I&W and Awake.  You are now 0-2.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: Daso on February 06, 2014, 07:05:31 PM
I'm actually surprised at seeing SFAM/SDOIT winning the poll, but I've been seeing a lot of people pick those over I&W and Awake a lot recently, too.

I went with I&W/Awake. SFaM and SDoIT are both great albums and I believe that DT's sound after those two albums became different versions of what was done in those albums (whether it was heavier, more pop, more prog, more melodic or whatever). Both are incredibly cohesive and have some of DT's best pieces. That said, I&W is, for me, a legendary album, and it's quite difficult for any album to reach that status for me. All the songs are incredibly inspired, fresh sounding, meaningful, greatly composed and innovating (at least at that point). Awake holds a similar position for me, so the choice wasn't really difficult. All four are great, though.
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on February 06, 2014, 08:32:13 PM
SFAM is one of the greatest albums ever made. As is I&W really, but not quite as good. Awake is great, but SDOIT is my #3 DT album, so I'm going with SFAM/SDOIT here.
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 06, 2014, 08:55:53 PM
SFAM and SDOIT are DT's two best albums, and just about untouchable at this point, so that choice easily. IaW is very close behind them, but Awake isn't even in the running here.
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: son_ov_hades on February 07, 2014, 05:28:44 AM
Scenes From A Memory is just slightly better than Images And Words, but Awake blows Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence away. All four fantastic albums though.
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: ariich on February 07, 2014, 10:35:01 AM
Quote from: Dark Castle on February 06, 2014, 04:28:26 PM
Quote from: Kotowboy on February 06, 2014, 04:23:09 PM
Not sure how an album of 5 tracks can have a "lot" of filler :P

And The Great Debate is amazing.
Well if you look at it like that, then yeah, but if you go beyond "lol only 5 tracks" there's obviously a shit ton of music in those 5 tracks. And I find a lot of it passable.
That doesn't make it filler though. Filler isn't the same thing as "stuff I don't like".
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: Dark Castle on February 07, 2014, 10:37:29 AM
Me saying it's filler is just my opinion, which you obviously don't have to agree with. And it's not that I dislike it, I just don't feel like a lot of it was necessary.
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on February 07, 2014, 10:54:35 AM
Quote from: ariich on February 07, 2014, 10:35:01 AM
Quote from: Dark Castle on February 06, 2014, 04:28:26 PM
Quote from: Kotowboy on February 06, 2014, 04:23:09 PM
Not sure how an album of 5 tracks can have a "lot" of filler :P

And The Great Debate is amazing.
Well if you look at it like that, then yeah, but if you go beyond "lol only 5 tracks" there's obviously a shit ton of music in those 5 tracks. And I find a lot of it passable.
That doesn't make it filler though. Filler isn't the same thing as "stuff I don't like".

Well, there's no real way to determine what's actually "filler" unless you're part of the band that wrote it. So I guess "filler" is kind of up for interpretation.

I don't think SDOIT has filler, though.
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: KevShmev on February 07, 2014, 11:10:42 AM
Quote from: ariich on February 07, 2014, 10:35:01 AM
Filler isn't the same thing as "stuff I don't like".

Good luck convincing a lot of people of that.  I have been beating that same drum for forever.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: Obfuscation on February 07, 2014, 11:11:35 AM
SFAM/SDOIT
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: AngelBack on February 07, 2014, 05:26:53 PM
Quote from: mikeyd23 on February 06, 2014, 08:38:37 AM
I would have to go with SFAM and SDOIT.  On any given day I would list I&W, SFAM, and SDOIT as my top three DT albums.  Where each album falls in my top three depends on the day, so all three are considered great in my mind.  Awake does fall lower in my rankings, and therefore pulls the I&W/Awake pairing below the SFAM/SDOIT pairing.


Pretty much this.
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: Octavarious on February 07, 2014, 05:31:27 PM
Quote from: tofee35 on February 06, 2014, 09:11:22 AM
SFAM and SDOIT cannot be beat. The musicianship, concepts, variety, production quality, hooks, creativity all go to SFAM and SDOIT. In my book it isn't close.

-Tof
This.
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: Dirty30 on February 07, 2014, 11:11:59 PM
I cut my DT teeth with SFAM... SDOIT (the song, more than the album) is my personal holy grail, thus elevating the album into the stratosphere. :metal Sorry I&W and Awake... You're both great, but you're just not that high in my book.
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: Evermind on February 08, 2014, 12:39:52 AM
Would've voted for SFAM/SDOIT if not for the title track of the latter.

I&W and Awake.
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 08, 2014, 03:35:06 AM
I&W and Awake.  I have them ranked 1 & 2.

But I have SFAM & 6DOIT ranked 3 & 4, so I can't really go wrong here.
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: King Postwhore on February 08, 2014, 03:45:11 AM
SFAM & 6DOIT
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: Theme Dreater on February 08, 2014, 04:01:42 AM
I love all four albums, but I hold I&W, Awake, and SFAM on a slightly higher level than SDOIT. My vote goes to the first choice.
Title: Re: DT 1-2 punch, Part II
Post by: Invisible on February 12, 2014, 05:52:04 AM
This is tough... My personal ranking is Awake, FII(would be higher and nÂș1 with the B Sides), SDOIT, I&W, Scenes. I guess I'll have to go with I&W/Awake, but it's an extremely tough choice. The best of KM vs. the best of JR, I might as well choose both any day, if you ask me tomorow I'll probably chose the other option, and so forth :lol.