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Dream Theater => Dream Theater => Topic started by: ZeppelinDT on December 19, 2012, 04:47:57 PM
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So as some of you may know, in the past I've made collecting Dream Theater stuff a *slight* hobby of mine. It started pretty early on. I first discovered DT around 1997, and quickly picked up their entire discography. Then I found out about some singles with B sides, and, being the completist that I am, I started scouring Amazon for as many of those as I could find too. And as soon as I thought I had finally gotten it all, I learned about these mysterious fan club Christmas CDs that had been sent out. Then I started seeing other users on DTF posting pictures of their collections and noticed there was still more stuff that I didn't have (e.g., promo singles, Japanese versions, etc, etc). Not one to be outdone, I began digging deeper and deeper into eBay, learning how to win auctions through sniping programs, find overlooked stuff through misspellings ("Dream Theatre" is an ever popular one) or by searching titles and descriptions (Ive scored many a deal by finding rare stuff buried in eBay lot sales, such as a sealed WDADU longbox for $5.00). I began getting to know the other serious collectors on the scene, and before I knew it, my collection had expanded from a single mini CD tower to an entire bookshelf and then some.
But by around 2007, I was living on my own, working full time and living a pretty busy life, and I just didn't really have the time available that was necessary to continue building such a collection, rarities were becoming more and more expensive and sought after, and the overall cost of keeping up with all of that was starting to become a bit much, so my collecting habits more or less dwindled at that point and eventually stopped completely. Since then, about half of my collection has just been sitting around on display in my apartment, while the rest of it (mostly the posters and t-shirts) remain buried in the back of my closets. There have been plenty of times where I've tried to figure out what exactly I want to do with all this stuff... is it worth keeping? Should I just sell it all? Should I store it away somewhere? I've gone back and forth a bunch of times, but every time I start thinking about the possibility of selling it, I realize that I spent so much time and energy gathering all of this stuff into one place, that it would be pretty tough to part with it all - especially the true gems and rarities.
So lately I've decided that at the very least I should take a look through it all and re-familiarize myself with everything to see what I've actually got, what might be worth displaying, what might be sellable without too much pain, etc, etc. In the past, many people have jokingly told me I should open a Dream Theater museum, and while I laughed at the time, I started thinking about it and realized that in recent years Long Islanders have created the Long Island Music Hall of Fame, which Dream Theater were inducted into last year. They had no physical location, but they're in the process of opening a physical museum in my home town featuring inductees, so I've got a message in to them and I'm attempting to persuade them to open a temporary Dream Theater featured exhibit. I have no idea how that will turn out, but if it works I'd certainly be lending them some of my stuff.
But in the meantime, I thought it might be kind of fun to start a thread where every now and then I pick one item from my collection and do a little feature on it here. Pictures, background, any stories behind it, etc. (Note - one thing I probably won't be posting is how much I paid for stuff - and that's not out of any desire for privacy or anything, but because of the much more practical reason that, I was doing so much buying, selling and trading that, for most of this stuff, I just flat out don't remember). I figured it would be a fun way for me to revisit my own collection, while also being a way for some other fans to check out stuff that they otherwise may not have known even existed. Ideally I'll try to do at least one per week, but I guess the frequency will really depend mostly on whether or not there's actually any interest in this.
So anyway, I've decided to start with what is probably the most obvious choice, so here we go.
Edit - I thought it would be convenient to create an index linking directly to the posts about specific items:
ITEM #1 - MAJESTY DEMO TEST PRESSING CASSETTE TAPE (Scroll down)
ITEM #2 - IMAGES & WORDS CD (ALTERNATE VERSION) (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=35080.msg1469470#msg1469470)
ITEM #3 - AWAKE - THE INTERACTIVE GUIDE (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=35080.msg1471741#msg1471741)
ITEM #4 - JORDAN RUDESS - A CHRISTMAS CAROL CD (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=35080.msg1472461#msg1472461)
ITEM #5 - MAJESTY DEMO SONG LYRICS PACKAGE (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=35080.msg1480990#msg1480990)
ITEM #6 - CHARLIE DOMINICI BACKSTAGE PASS (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=35080.msg1488379#msg1488379)
ITEM #7 - DOROTHY WALLACE - AMERICA/AUTOMO JOE (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=35080.msg1502489#msg1502489)
ITEM #1 - MAJESTY DEMO TEST PRESSING CASSETTE TAPE
Front:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/IMG_1027_zps118dceee.jpg)
Back:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/IMG_1026_zpsccf6c96f.jpg)
JP Autograph:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/IMG_1028_zps2fbd9eb1.jpg)
MP Autograph:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/IMG_1030_zps067d9488.jpg)
JM Autograph:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/IMG_1029_zps661d747c.jpg)
This is easily the rarest item in my collection. There is only one of them in existence, and this is it. In a sense, it's really the very first "professional" thing that Dream Theater recorded as a band. I picked up it a few years ago from Andrew Ross, who managed DT (well, Majesty) during the very earliest stages of their career. I had dealt with Andy before on other items, so I was pretty confident in its authenticity, but obviously with such a rare and unusual thing, one is never 100% certain. But then about 5 years ago DT did a pre-show meet and greet at a local record store, so I brought this tape to get it signed by Mike and the Johns, and I asked Mike about it directly and his was response was along the lines of "Yeah, this is definitely real. I listened to this exact tape over 20 years ago". I honestly don't remember exactly what I paid for it - the best of my recollection is that it was "A lot, but not the most I've ever spend on a single item". So there you have it. A genuine piece of Dream Theater history. Until next time...
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Holy shit man, very nice man! Just finishing my discography collection off soon then rarer albums and so on, soon I'll be like you haha :)
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Cool! Is it just the Majesty Demos that are on it?
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wait does that sticker say 84? Didn't they get together in 85?
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Great thread idea! :tup
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This thread is going to be an early Christmas for me :excited:
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wait does that sticker say 84? Didn't they get together in 85?
It says 86 I think.
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Damn son. That's a nice find.
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That is really awesome. Can't wait to see more from the vaults of ZeppelinDT!
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Cool! Is it just the Majesty Demos that are on it?
Yup. It's the test pressing of the original 6-track demo tape.
wait does that sticker say 84? Didn't they get together in 85?
It says "8-11-86" (i.e., August 11, 1986). I guess that's the day it was finished.
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Hmph. I still have my promo picture cd. :lol Still,that thing you have there is badass. :metal
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You're pretty awesome ZeppelinDT, not just for having such an item or being a prime DT collector, but also for the way you're going about the whole hobby, with the exhibit idea and giving insight into what you have and how you came to have it and sharing it with other fans, etc. I appreciate this :tup
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thanks for sharing Zep
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Cool thread Zep :tup It's startling how much that guy's 4s, 6s, and 8s resemble the way my dad writes them too.
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I think that guy might be Mike Portnoy. The numbers resemble those he wrote in the front cover of Cleaning Out The Closet.
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Awesome Zep! :tup Following with interest.
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Very cool! :eek Can't wait to see more stuff.
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Very cool thread!
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Oh this is going to be awesome. Thanks for taking the time to introduce us to your stuff, I really appreciate it :)
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You have a *slight* collection the way that the US has is *slightly* in debt. :lol
Following.
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This is easily the rarest item in my collection.
It's not hard to believe that! :hefdaddy
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That is extremely cool, Zep. :metal
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Yes! very cool! I will definitely be following this too.
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Definitely following ZDT. Thanks for sharing.
That cassette would definitely have to be considered the Holy Grail, no?
Maybe you could swab it for DNA and we could actually have an MP/JP love child!!
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That cassette would definitely have to be considered the Holy Grail, no?
It certainly is to me. Although there are at least two other items I can think of that to me would be just as cool to own. One is the papier-mache heart from the Pull Me Under video that MP sold through his forum. That one originally went for $700 though, which was out of my price range. The other is the Images & Words RIAA gold record awarded to Bear Tracks Studios. Jay Beckenstein sold that off through eBay years ago, but it sold for around $1,200, which is WAY out of my price range.
Anyway, glad to see this thread getting such a positive reaction. I'll try to keep the posts coming. I've got the next item lined up... just a little more work to do. This one requires me to upload a video to fully capture the bizareness of it. Working on that right now...
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Thanks for sharing bro. Very cool. I have some cool Queensryche and Fifth Angel gems like that too.
Hope to see you at the Queensryche show in March. We've never met, I think it's about time. Mike E is going too. It's a Sunday, but your old ass can still wake up in time for work on Monday.
Anyway, looking forward to future posts on your stuff.
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Awe yeah I am following Zepp!
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Awe yeah I am following Zepp!
King, what's with the new avatar? Sunday night did more damage than I thought! :D
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Anyway, glad to see this thread getting such a positive reaction. I'll try to keep the posts coming. I've got the next item lined up... just a little more work to do. This one requires me to upload a video to fully capture the bizareness of it. Working on that right now...
Looking forward to it!
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That cassette would definitely have to be considered the Holy Grail, no?
It certainly is to me. Although there are at least two other items I can think of that to me would be just as cool to own. One is the papier-mache heart from the Pull Me Under video that MP sold through his forum. That one originally went for $700 though, which was out of my price range. The other is the Images & Words RIAA gold record awarded to Bear Tracks Studios. Jay Beckenstein sold that off through eBay years ago, but it sold for around $1,200, which is WAY out of my price range.
Anyway, glad to see this thread getting such a positive reaction. I'll try to keep the posts coming. I've got the next item lined up... just a little more work to do. This one requires me to upload a video to fully capture the bizareness of it. Working on that right now...
I feel your pain. The stuff I have is mostly in closets and boxes. (My guess is I have about half to two thirds of what you have.)
Bought a few things from Andrew Ross myself. I have the more common sealed purple majesty demo tape that I picked up at a record show in the 90s
I just found one of those Awake 18X24 promo posters(a mini version of which can be found inside the Awake CD booklet) that had slipped behind the shelf and fallen to the floor. I've always thought about framing it and putting it up as I think it's one of the cooler promo posters out there but I may just end up selling it.
Can't wait to see that video....
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ITEM #2 - IMAGES & WORDS CD (ALTERNATE VERSION)
Front:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/IMG_1056_zps8805c29a.jpg)
Innards:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/IMG_1057_zpsa8c4b69c.jpg)
Back:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/IMG_1058_zpsf56f0fa1.jpg)
Ok, so at this point you're probably thinking "Uhh... how is this rare?". Well, as with many collectors, my collection goes beyond just getting promos, single, and odd memorabilia. A good part of my collection consists of multiple versions of the same item, all of which are slightly different from each other in one way or another. Some differences are pretty obvious, e.g., Japanese versions with an OBI strip, versions with alternate covers, or with alternate track lists, or with bonus discs, etc etc. Some differences are fairly subtle, e.g., versions using the same basic template that were pressed in different countries, reissues, CD club versions, and so on. Based on the above pictures, you're probably thinking that this particular alternate version falls into the latter category, as it looks pretty darn similar to the standard issue CD. But if you think that's the case, then you're wrong. This version is EXTREMELY different from the standard common versions. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that this is the most unusual version of Images & Words out there. It's just unusual in a different sort of way. It's unusual in a way that is impossible to capture using pictures alone, since, in a strictly VISUAL sense, this version is, in fact, identical to all of the others. To best demonstrate what makes this version so unique, I've created a short video. Now, if you're the curmudgeonly type and are thinking "OH MY GOD JUST GET TO THE POINT ALREADY", then you can just skip the video and I'll explain below. But if you're enjoying this prelude, then watch the video first before reading on. Just make sure your sound is on if you want the full effect.
CLICK HERE FOR VIDEO (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Umm8M039paE)
Did you watch it? Are you confused? You should be. Don't worry, your ears are not playing tricks on you. Those first few notes you heard were indeed the intro to Hell's Bells. That second song really was Shoot to Thrill. In fact, despite the booklet, spine, and label on the disc all reading "Dream Theater - Images & Words", the audio contained on the CD is AC/DC's classic "Back In Black". Apparently somebody at the CD pressing plant was asleep at the controls on the day these were made. I can only imagine the confusion of somebody who bought one of these back in '92, settled down to listen to this new band they just discovered, and were confronted with an album they've known well for 12 years already. (I also wonder if there's anybody who bought this without any knowledge of AC/DC, and actually thought this was what Dream Theater sounds like).
One other thing worth noting about this is that it isn't the only time this has happened to Dream Theater. Apparently there's also a Canadian version of "A Change of Seasons" floating around out there that has the audio to Kenny Wayne Shepherd's "Trouble Is..." (although I only know of one copy of that particular disc, and it's in the possession of Dream Theater mega-collector Franz). I was never able to find my own copy of that one, but after years of searching, I did finally score this copy of I&W, which I picked up directly from another DT mega-collector named Paul, but more easily recognized by his username thefunkygibbons. His copy (which I now own) and Franz's copy are the only two copies of this particular version that I know of. The funny thing about this one though is that, since this can't be detected through visuals alone, there could be copies of it sitting in a used CD store quietly blending in with the other regular versions, or gathering dust on somebody's shelf without them ever even realizing it. There could even be copies of it for sale on eBay or Amazon for only a couple of bucks, but you would never know until you actually stuck it in the CD player. But if you ever do find yourself with one of these in your possession, don't let it go!
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Aw man, when you said "Alternate Version" I thought it would have a different mix or track order. However. that's still pretty interesting! I know I have a CD somewhere that is basically the same as this; everything is one band, but the music is another.
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that is so cool
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Aw man, when you said "Alternate Version" I thought it would have a different mix or track order. However. that's still pretty interesting! I know I have a CD somewhere that is basically the same as this; everything is one band, but the music is another.
Yeah, I struggled with how I should title it. I wanted to just call it "Back in Black mispressing" but that would have taken all the fun out of phrasing my post the way I did.
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I think it would be hilarious if someone had never heard Back in Black and thought that was Dream Theater for awhile
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I think it would be hilarious if someone had never heard Back in Black and thought that was Dream Theater for awhile
In which case, it's lucky they got a misprint, since that album should be mandatory. :biggrin:
Either way, they're getting a killer album! :metal
Very nice rare piece.
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Haha that's amazing! I wonder if some AC/DC fan got the opposite with a 92' print of Back In Black? :lol
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You know, for as much legend that has in the DT collectors lore (mostly from funky :jets: ) you would think that there were more copies of that. Awesome that you have one though!
aka "Hoarders: The DT Edition" :jets: :jets:
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Do you have a vinyl copy for I&W or Awake?
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Do you have a vinyl copy for I&W or Awake?
Yup. Three different versions of I&W actually, and one of Awake.
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Wow, that's awesome!! I had never heard of this.
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I see Rich Wilson in the thread. You should get ZDT, Franz, and Paul together. Their collections would look awesome captured in a "coffee table" type book. I know I would buy one!
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Save it. Maybe you can donate it to the R&R HOF in 70 years when they induct DT.
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I wonder how many copies of the Images/Back in Black album. I'm sure there werent a lot to begin with but I wonder how many people heard that and took it back to the store where it was returned to the record company to be destroyed.
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Do you have a vinyl copy for I&W or Awake?
Yup. Three different versions of I&W actually, and one of Awake.
:eek And I thought that i was cool with my vinyl copy of I&W.
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Very cool, Zep! If there existed a misprinted copy of ADTOE with Justin Bieber inside, would you still pay to get it? :biggrin:
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Very cool, Zep! If there existed a misprinted copy of ADTOE with Justin Bieber inside, would you still pay to get it? :biggrin:
If that existed, I hope the world ends by the end of today.
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I see Rich Wilson in the thread. You should get ZDT, Franz, and Paul together. Their collections would look awesome captured in a "coffee table" type book. I know I would buy one!
Funky has actually sold off a good portion of his collection. But all the good stuff was bought by either me or Franz, so it didn't go very far :P
Do you have a vinyl copy for I&W or Awake?
Yup. Three different versions of I&W actually, and one of Awake.
:eek And I thought that i was cool with my vinyl copy of I&W.
Well... in fairness, I've been obsessively collecting since around '97 or '98, so I've had lots of time to get my hands on this stuff. It's a long process that requires a lot of dedication.
Very cool, Zep! If there existed a misprinted copy of ADTOE with Justin Bieber inside, would you still pay to get it? :biggrin:
I think they should just make a version of ACOS with a Bieber song stuck somewhere in the covers medley.
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Wow, what an interesting read so far! The fuck-up with Back in black is hilarious, I hope somebody got fired for that. :lol As for the Majesty tape, what can be said? You sure are lucky to be the owner of the only existing copy of that tape. :tup
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Holy crap, that mixup is awesome. :lol
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That is beautiful.
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Awww man, this is thread is just awesome. I've always wanted to be a collector of something but most of them are expensive to do and with no money, not possible. I will enjoying following this.
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As soon as the CD player (25-changer I assume? Awesome!) said 42 minutes, I knew something was amiss.
Cool story bro.
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50-disc changer actually. (Well, 50+1, so 51). It's pretty unnecessary, but it's from like 15 years ago when those things were all the rage.
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ITEM #3 - AWAKE - THE INTERACTIVE GUIDE
Outer package:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/CF08201D-E0F8-4DD1-B6E0-75C912A87CEF-1112-00000052E59D7ED8.jpg)
Disc:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/07CA8D90-DDA8-4FE8-9768-FCFE4290A89B-1112-00000052E8F9F090.jpg)
Info Sheet:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/2CAFAFF7-E819-4E8A-ACF5-8A444D3B8FDA-1112-00000052ED74E4CE.jpg)
Disc in package:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/B4BCC013-4EA0-4E6A-918E-6378B0C88863-1112-00000052F0C0D61E.jpg)
This piece isn't particularly rare, but I've always thought it was one of the cooler and more interesting promo items from DT's earlier days. The disc shown here is the Windows version. There is also a Mac version out there - I believe they may have originally both come in the same package, although I'm not certain about that. Because it's so old (and because it's been over 10 years since I've owned a computer with a disc drive), I've never actually run the program, but from what I've read about it, it contains promo pictures, audio samples, biography, band trivia and other info. It's essentially an extremely early and primitive digital press kit. Note also that the insert references the launching of the first ever Dream Theater official website "available via the Internet and Mosaic software". They even used it to set up "live online conferences" with the band. One of these days if I get my hands on a disc drive I think I'm gonna give this a spin and see what's on there.
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That's really cool too! I'd love to see what on the disc.
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I'd love to see what those online conferences were like.
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That's awesome! Too bad it's a floppy disk haha.
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Dude, awesome collection, I will be totally following this.
If I remember correctly, you have an alarm clock or something like that promoting Awake, right?
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Following this. Really cool stuff so far.
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If I remember correctly, you have an alarm clock or something like that promoting Awake, right?
Yup. That should make an appearance in here somewhere down the line.
I'd love to see what those online conferences were like.
Ask and ye shall receive...
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/DTInterview17_zpsb9dc8c9a.jpg)
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/DTInterview18_zps8dd76add.jpg)
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/DTInterview19_zps22ee6075.jpg)
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/DTInterview20_zps87ee5c20.jpg)
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Whoa, thanks for posting that. I hadn't seen that before. :tup
I didn't know JR was the keyboard wizard even back then. You learn something new every day. :rudess:
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Whoa, thanks for posting that. I hadn't seen that before. :tup
I didn't know JR was the keyboard wizard even back then. You learn something new every day. :rudess:
I knew his instructional DVD from pre-DT was "Keyboard Wizardry," so he was definitely using that early on.
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Wow! The chat was very cool! I chuckled at Myung saying "heavy aggressive stuff" and like blob I was impressed that back in 1994 JR was already the keyboard wizard! Also, some bits of slightly redundant KM information that Milena will nonetheless internalize and treat like a relic! :)
Also, the flobby drive is unreal :o
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Wow! The chat was very cool! I chuckled at Myung saying "heavy aggressive stuff" and like blob I was impressed that back in 1994 JR was already the keyboard wizard! Also, some bits of slightly redundant KM information that Milena will nonetheless internalize and treat like a relic! :)
Also, the flobby drive is unreal :o
You are dead, sir :rollin
This is pretty unreal honestly.
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Whoa, thanks for posting that. I hadn't seen that before. :tup
I didn't know JR was the keyboard wizard even back then. You learn something new every day. :rudess:
I knew his instructional DVD from pre-DT was "Keyboard Wizardry," so he was definitely using that early on.
Oh, I didn't know about that one. I have the Keyboard Madness one, where he shows a bunch of DT stuff, but I didn't realize there were any others before that.
A lot of neat DT info in this thread. :tup
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Also, gotta love this sentence straight out of the Paleozoic:
The Site has been created on the World-Wide Web (available via the Internet ....)
It's only been 18 years people. And yet it looks like an age ago....
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^ yeah, that part is incredible. I like the fact I live in the era where I can access everything the band has said and done in a way that is a part of my mental grammar, and in a way that doesn't have to be explained :lol
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Fantastic thread, Zep!
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Floppy disc... :jets: :tup
The transcript is outstanding, too.
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I want to copy that floppy.
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I want to copy that floppy.
(https://content.ytmnd.com/content/1/d/8/1d87df5466d6ae4bda47e7ea1851b0fb.gif)
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:jets:
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ITEM #4 - JORDAN RUDESS - A CHRISTMAS CAROL CD
Front:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/61926465-0800-4493-A379-4B8F89DB43AF-3353-0000013DD89723D5.jpg)
Disc:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/F81377D2-294F-4EB7-A213-26D2CCEDB93F-3353-0000013DDC63E6B5.jpg)
Back:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/7FF53FB2-0AA8-4ED3-AAE5-70472039D489-3353-0000013DE02DA1C5.jpg)
Liner Notes:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/4C173E24-47B8-49D3-A26C-DBEAE0973789-3353-0000013DE75C1BE4.jpg)
In addition to Dream Theater stuff, a good portion of my collection consists of side projects. And since it's Christmas, this seemed like a good one to start with. This is a pretty rare CD of a score written and played by Jordan for a performance of Dickens' "A Christmas Carol" at the Helen Hayes Performing Arts Center in Nyack, NY (Incidentially, the same venue where "An Evening with John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess" was performed). I'm not sure how many of these were made, but I believe they were produced and distributed independently. There's not much particularly unique or interesting about this other than its rarity, but it's the best thing I could think of that I had with a Christmas Theme.
:santa:
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Well that is certainly rare enough for me to have never heard of it, let alone listened to it!
Nice find, and I wonder how much one of those might go for because I'm interested in hearing what it sounds like! Is it all on piano, or does he utilize a lot of synths and samples as well? Because that man can play a whole orchestra and it would still sound amazing.
-Marc.
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I had heard of this, and it's probably the #1 most obscure Jordan Rudess project tied with the AD spot score he penned almost two decades ago! :biggrin:
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Awesome stuff and history here!
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I seem to remember the Christmas Carol CD being touched upon by Funky in one of the NEW Voice 'zines from VoicesUK. Good stuff. :tup
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This is a fantastic thread! Thank you very much.
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Zep, Great stuff!!
Thank you so much for sharing.
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That's really cool!
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ITEM #3 - AWAKE - THE INTERACTIVE GUIDE
Outer package:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/CF08201D-E0F8-4DD1-B6E0-75C912A87CEF-1112-00000052E59D7ED8.jpg)
Disc:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/07CA8D90-DDA8-4FE8-9768-FCFE4290A89B-1112-00000052E8F9F090.jpg)
Info Sheet:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/2CAFAFF7-E819-4E8A-ACF5-8A444D3B8FDA-1112-00000052ED74E4CE.jpg)
Disc in package:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/B4BCC013-4EA0-4E6A-918E-6378B0C88863-1112-00000052F0C0D61E.jpg)
This piece isn't particularly rare, but I've always thought it was one of the cooler and more interesting promo items from DT's earlier days. The disc shown here is the Windows version. There is also a Mac version out there - I believe they may have originally both come in the same package, although I'm not certain about that. Because it's so old (and because it's been over 10 years since I've owned a computer with a disc drive), I've never actually run the program, but from what I've read about it, it contains promo pictures, audio samples, biography, band trivia and other info. It's essentially an extremely early and primitive digital press kit. Note also that the insert references the launching of the first ever Dream Theater official website "available via the Internet and Mosaic software". They even used it to set up "live online conferences" with the band. One of these days if I get my hands on a disc drive I think I'm gonna give this a spin and see what's on there.
Not rare? Besides mine, yours is the only other one I've ever seen.
I doubt too many have survived the age. It's basically an electronic press kit for Awake which has some cool graphics (for the time) as you said.
I've even got one of Stephen King.
So far, I'm one for four out the items you posted.
Great work so far....
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Wow.. great collections. Keep following this thread. Like it a lot.
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Not rare? Besides mine, yours is the only other one I've ever seen.
Well, I guess it is pretty rare, but I have seen it pop up on eBay a couple of times. Do you have the Mac disc too? Now THAT one is crazy rare... I think I've only ever seen it once.
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Not rare? Besides mine, yours is the only other one I've ever seen.
Well, I guess it is pretty rare, but I have seen it pop up on eBay a couple of times. Do you have the Mac disc too? Now THAT one is crazy rare... I think I've only ever seen it once.
Windows.
Never saw a Mac disc...ever, but you've probably paid much closer attention to ebay over the years than I have. My experience is mostly looking through record faires and record stores, both of which have mostly dried up over the years.
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Incredible thread. I especially liked the floppy disc. :lol
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I was just told by zep that for the happiness of the ladies, the next entry will be a lock of James's golden hair from the DT/Queensryche tour. :o
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Dare I ask which part of the body that hair lock is from?
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Dare I ask which part of the body that hair lock is from?
The only part the girls on this board are interested in touching and praising :zydar:
his mane of course
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:eek :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :metal :metal :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
This is not smiley overuse, it is my actual reaction to this exchange.
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Oh Marco... :jets: :rollin :jets:
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On a second thought I should have used "stroking" instead of "touching". It would have made a bigger effect :lol
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Thought I'd post this here for those that don't venture into the music forum that much and since it's somewhat related.
Went into the closet last weekend to do a little (very little it seems) cleaning and decided to put this Dream Theater - Awake promotional collectors package together in and effort to thin out the collection a little.
Collection is below:
+ Awake (Very rare ADVANCE US promo with black and white cover and try art (not the Gold Stamped Promo that was issued later) I think there were only 300 of these pressed: https://www.thefunkygibbons.net/D003.html )
+ Lie digipak promotional CD single (still sealed)
+ Awake 18" by 24" promo poster. (Studio shot of band that appears in the Awake CD booklet)
+ Awake promo album flat (12" by 12")
+ Awake Cassette
+ Awake promo postcard announcing Oct. 4 release.
+ Copy of record company release announcing Kevin Moore's departure from the band.
+ Free mystery Awake related item.
$125 (Free shipping in the US of course)
From this thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=30041.new#new
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ITEM #5 - MAJESTY DEMO SONG LYRICS PACKAGE
Cover:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/BBE63777-3D75-4993-B071-390930CD2443-4384-00000180E757F145.jpg)
Another Won:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/D04EAB35-ADE3-4F98-8C0B-57B09084FCB3-4384-00000180ECF67D81.jpg)
Your Majesty:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/27BA958D-41E6-4457-8BA2-CA8B0897B112-4384-00000180F106A7EC.jpg)
A Vision (Page 1) :
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/D60F7A23-40D4-4E2C-A405-BB450871C06F-4384-00000180F46C663E.jpg)
A Vision (Page 2) :
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/C6316A6E-64F3-4363-839E-8446EE5563D4-4384-00000180F7F514C2.jpg)
Two Far:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/FD332136-D5CE-4046-BD14-0C6877DAD30C-4384-00000180FF43C027.jpg)
Vital Star:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/0854B2A1-1BF6-41D9-81A0-EC781E5264AF-4384-0000018101F99991.jpg)
March of the Tyrant:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/A62C8F05-A6C9-452A-B8B6-A3D90039D19A-4384-0000018104A0FD47.jpg)
This is the official lyrics package that came with the original Majesty demo tapes. I'm not sure how many of these were actually distributed, but they're pretty rare - mine is the only one I've ever seen so far. It's pretty basic - just a cover page with the band's contact info and lyrics to each of the songs. It also credits which band member(s) wrote lyrics to each demo song. I more or less just stumbled across this one... Somebody had listed a copy of the original demo cassette on eBay, and this lyrics package was thrown in as an extra. I already had a copy of the demo tape, so I won the auction, kept the lyrics package and resold the tape, pretty much making all my money back while still letting me hold onto this gem. Definitely one of my most treasured finds.
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LYRICS BY JOHN MYUNG!!! :omg:
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That's awesomely rare!
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AWESOME find! And I used that as source enough to fix writing credits on the List Of DT Songs by Lyricist page on Wikipedia!
-Marc.
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Myung wrote lyrics before LTL? :omg: JP and Kevin wrote surprisingly much together in those days.
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LYRICS BY JOHN MYUNG!!! :omg:
:metal
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LYRICS BY JOHN MYUNG!!! :omg:
Back then they didn't know any better. That is a complete misprint. It should read... The Gospel According to St. Myung.
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Awesome, Zep!
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LYRICS BY JOHN MYUNG!!! :omg:
The shock!
The awe!
The elation!
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Great thread, Chris! I'm happy to see you contacted the Long Island Music Hall of Fame and offered up some of your stuff. My fear was that they would just gloss over DT and focus on some of the more bigger names they've inducted (Billy Joel, Mariah Carey, etc.), but I hope they take you up on the offer and do a quality DT display. And I hope their display doesn't include just Jordan because he's the current keyboardist and not Kevin Moore, who was also from Long Island and helped the band make their mark. Anyway, great thread and I look forward to following it as the weeks go on!
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Wait! I've never heard of this! Is the LA Hall Of Fame to make an official display about DT? When? Why? Of which magnitude? Will the band be alterted/invited? Amazing stuff! :omg:
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Wait! I've never heard of this! Is the LA Hall Of Fame to make an official display about DT? When? Why? Of which magnitude? Will the band be alterted/invited? Amazing stuff! :omg:
LINK: https://www.newsday.com/long-island/suffolk/li-music-hall-of-fame-finally-gets-a-home-1.3090380
Aug. 11, 2011
LI Music Hall of Fame finally gets a home
By Carl MacGowan
It's been five years since Vanilla Fudge was inducted into the Long Island Music Hall of Fame. But the inventive 1960s rock band has no plaque at the hall -- because there is no hall.
That's why lead guitarist Vince Martell drove Thursday to the hall of fame's future home in Port Jefferson from his house in Cherry Hill, N.J. He had broken rock star tradition, rising before dawn to watch Town of Brookhaven officials turn over a century-old building to hall organizers, who will create a museum there.
"I had to get up early to get here, but this is beautiful," Martell said of the Richardsonian Romanesque structure at Main and East Main streets that formerly housed the First National Bank of Port Jefferson. "I can't wait for them to fill it up."
Thursday's lease-signing ceremony marked the end of a long, frustrating search by hall of fame organizers, who since 2006 have inducted 73 members -- including Billy Joel, Barbra Streisand, The Ramones, Mariah Carey, Guy Lombardo and Beverly Sills -- while looking for a home.
The nonprofit hall will lease the building from the town for at least 15 years for a token one-time rent payment of $10.
The vacant building, which over the years also has been a hotel and town tax office, needs extensive renovations.
"The great musicians of Long Island and the rich musical history of Long Island will finally have a home," said hall of fame chairman James Faith, pumping his fist as he addressed a crowd outside the building. "It's about time, Long Island. This is it."
Faith said after the ceremony that he didn't know when the museum will open. The hall's board is working to raise as much as $1.5 million for renovations, he said.
Besides Martell, inductees at the ceremony included brothers Peppi and Mickey Marchello of The Good Rats, disc jockey Denis McNamara, and Carole Demas and Paula Janis, the stars of the 1970s children's TV show "The Magic Garden."
Demas and Janis, both 71, sang their tune, "The Hello Song," to help christen the hall.
Janis noted that their show debuted on WPIX / 11 "a long, long time ago."
"You know how long ago it was when you're in a museum," Janis said.
LINK: https://www.newsday.com/entertainment/columnists/glenn-gamboa/li-music-hall-of-fame-goal-2-million-1.4147948
Oct. 26, 2012
LI Music Hall of Fame goal: $2 million
by Glenn Gamboa
It was an amazing night of rock, rap and pop from several different decades as the Long Island Music Hall of Fame kicked off its fundraising campaign with its fourth Induction Gala earlier this month.
The group's goal is to raise $2 million to fund its permanent home in Port Jefferson, creating a center that both pays tribute to Long Island's musical legacy and is an inspiration for the next generation to carry that legacy forward. The Hall of Fame's chairman, Jim Faith, says the group plans to start renovations on the building as soon as it raises the funds.
"People are really rooting for this," Faith said as he walked the red carpet at the Paramount in Huntington before the event.
But what exactly are we all waiting for? While $2 million is certainly a large sum, charities across the area often raise that figure and more in one star-studded night. Can't Long Island's music industry band together to do the same and get things rolling?
"American Idol" Season 10 hopeful Robbie Rosen walked the red carpet before the Induction Gala, genuinely excited to be a part of a community of Long Island artists.
"I just want to introduce myself and my music to everybody here," the Merrick singer-songwriter said. "It's so exciting."
After all, it wasn't so long ago that Long Island success didn't count, according to the music industry. There are generations of rockers and rappers who told people they were from New York, instead of shouting out their actual Long Island roots to gain acceptance.
Twisted Sister's Mark Mendoza says that even though the band would sell out major venues in Manhattan, it was still dismissed as "a Long Island thing."
Isn't it time for that to end?
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Wait! I've never heard of this! Is the LA Hall Of Fame to make an official display about DT? When? Why? Of which magnitude? Will the band be alterted/invited? Amazing stuff! :omg:
It's Long Island, not LA :). And there's nothing planned yet... I just have been trying to contact them about it and have offered to loan them stuff from my collection. So far I haven't gotten a response yet...
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Yeah, sorry, I know it's Long Island (what kind of a DT fan would I be if I thought they were from Los Angeles? And to say that the national Italian newspaper said they are from Boston!). It's just that I am much more used to writing LA than LI, so it just slipped.
Anyway, I hope they will reply, Zep, your dedication and hard detective work earned you a well deserved display! :)
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Actually, Mike... I've been meaning to ask you. Do you have any contacts at the LIHOF? Or even just a real person who I can communicate with there? So far I've only been able to correspond with them through Facebook.
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Side-topic - I just listed a duplicate copy of my SFAM Movie Poster on eBay. I've put it at a pretty low price because there's some visible creasing in the poster, but I figured somebody might still want it because it is a pretty super awesome poster. Probably my favorite of all the DT posters I have... only reason I'm selling it is because I've got a second one in better condition. I know it's not perfect, but I thought I'd mention it here anyway in case anybody it interested.
https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330856091934
p.s. ~ Next item coming in a day or two. I've got a few things lined up... just gotta figure out which one to do next.
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ITEM #5 - MAJESTY DEMO SONG LYRICS PACKAGE
Cover:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/BBE63777-3D75-4993-B071-390930CD2443-4384-00000180E757F145.jpg)
Another Won:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/D04EAB35-ADE3-4F98-8C0B-57B09084FCB3-4384-00000180ECF67D81.jpg)
Your Majesty:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/27BA958D-41E6-4457-8BA2-CA8B0897B112-4384-00000180F106A7EC.jpg)
A Vision (Page 1) :
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/D60F7A23-40D4-4E2C-A405-BB450871C06F-4384-00000180F46C663E.jpg)
A Vision (Page 2) :
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/C6316A6E-64F3-4363-839E-8446EE5563D4-4384-00000180F7F514C2.jpg)
Two Far:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/FD332136-D5CE-4046-BD14-0C6877DAD30C-4384-00000180FF43C027.jpg)
Vital Star:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/0854B2A1-1BF6-41D9-81A0-EC781E5264AF-4384-0000018101F99991.jpg)
March of the Tyrant:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/A62C8F05-A6C9-452A-B8B6-A3D90039D19A-4384-0000018104A0FD47.jpg)
This is the official lyrics package that came with the original Majesty demo tapes. I'm not sure how many of these were actually distributed, but they're pretty rare - mine is the only one I've ever seen so far. It's pretty basic - just a cover page with the band's contact info and lyrics to each of the songs. It also credits which band member(s) wrote lyrics to each demo song. I more or less just stumbled across this one... Somebody had listed a copy of the original demo cassette on eBay, and this lyrics package was thrown in as an extra. I already had a copy of the demo tape, so I won the auction, kept the lyrics package and resold the tape, pretty much making all my money back while still letting me hold onto this gem. Definitely one of my most treasured finds.
Got this at a Record Faire MANY years ago. Yours is the only other one I've ever seen. (came with the sealed tape too) I think mine came with copies of reviews of the demo.
I guess I'm batting .400 now (2 for 5) on your rarities.
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Side-topic - I just listed a duplicate copy of my SFAM Movie Poster on eBay. I've put it at a pretty low price because there's some visible creasing in the poster, but I figured somebody might still want it because it is a pretty super awesome poster. Probably my favorite of all the DT posters I have... only reason I'm selling it is because I've got a second one in better condition. I know it's not perfect, but I thought I'd mention it here anyway in case anybody it interested.
https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330856091934
p.s. ~ Next item coming in a day or two. I've got a few things lined up... just gotta figure out which one to do next.
I think Wey has mine now.
Never really liked that poster very much. I suppose if I were more a fan of the album (and the art) I might feel differently.
It's definately one of the more rare posters out there though. Someone should jump on this.
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Yeah, I have yours now.
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And it's quite awesomesauce too. :biggrin:
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Awesome. I had no idea there were any others of these even still floating around. Nice to know mine isn't the only one though... always makes me feel a little better about authenticity.
I guess this also means I'll have to start digging deeper for even more obscure stuff :). I have one thing coming up that I'm sure a few others have, but that's still pretty badass. Then a few others that I'm positive nobody else has...
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I have that movie poster as well. I professionally framed.
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I guess this also means I'll have to start digging deeper for even more obscure stuff :) . I have one thing coming up that I'm sure a few others have, but that's still pretty badass. Then a few others that I'm positive nobody else has...
Do it! :biggrin:
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I have that movie poster as well. I professionally framed.
If I had more wall space I would totally put that one up. I've probably got a good 20 - 30 DT posters in my closet, but that's really the only one I'm upset about not having space for.
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Yeah, I have yours now.
DebraKadabra:
And it's quite awesomesauce too.
I'm just stoked you guys are giving it the love I wasn't able to give.
My faves are probably the When Dream And Day Unite promo poster, the Awake studio poster (same as the inside of the CD booklet) , the Scenes From New York promo poster, and the Six Degrees promo poster. (Naturally, they all live in the closet)
I'd love to find an Octavarium promo poster and a Score promo poster besides that 11X17 one.
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I have that movie poster as well. I professionally framed.
If I had more wall space I would totally put that one up. I've probably got a good 20 - 30 DT posters in my closet, but that's really the only one I'm upset about not having space for.
That's my favorite poster. It is still rolled up in the original tube it came in. I do need to get it framed and hung though.
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When I was still living at my parents' house my entire bedroom was pretty much covered with DT posters. It was pretty ridiculous.
Old WDADU poster (w/ Charlie), I&W Booklet poster, DTIFC poster and LSFNY Poster -
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/DSC01349.jpg)
James LaBrie poster (upper right) -
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/DSC01369.jpg)
Super duper ginourmous SFAM poster -
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/DSC01371.jpg)
Awake Flag and Transatlantic Poster -
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/DSC01372.jpg)
And some others.... (WDADU, I&W, Awake and FII album covers and a couple other random ones) -
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/DSC01146.jpg)
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Yikes :omg:
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Yikes :omg:
Yeah! Forget trying to get into a museum for your DT stuff, you are one.
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The best one is on the wall with James above the door. :eek
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That looks like my fantasy room.
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Awesome photos! You even had a Elements of Persuasion poster. Wow. I loved seeing the old-school tiny TV, lol. Watching the Mets, I see!
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Don't tell me those are Dream Theater Bobbleheads on the TV! :lol
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Just amazing. Keep an eye open, I'm boarding a plane to American just to rob your house :hat
Also, the maxi-SFAM poster advertises the great Milano show which is being discussed in the other thread :omg:
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Don't tell me those are Dream Theater Bobbleheads on the TV! :lol
Looks like Rush ;D
(https://www.rushisaband.com/images/200610/323.f.jpg)
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I gotta say, Zep's collection is definitely worthy of a small room, a full wall, or even a small wing in the soon-to-be Long Island Music Hall of Fame. The more stuff he shows us, the more I realize what a remarkable collection he has. His display could even become a destination for hardcore DT fans that visit the NY area. His collection is a treasure, and something should come of his years of hard work and $$$ spent gathering it all into one place.
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Don't tell me those are Dream Theater Bobbleheads on the TV! :lol
Looks like Rush ;D
(https://www.rushisaband.com/images/200610/323.f.jpg)
Yup. It's the Rush ones. But man... DT should totally make bobbleheads of themselves.
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Don't tell me those are Dream Theater Bobbleheads on the TV! :lol
Looks like Rush ;D
(https://www.rushisaband.com/images/200610/323.f.jpg)
Yup. It's the Rush ones. But man... DT should totally make bobbleheads of themselves.
Jordan Rudess action figure! :D
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Don't tell me those are Dream Theater Bobbleheads on the TV! :lol
Looks like Rush ;D
(https://www.rushisaband.com/images/200610/323.f.jpg)
Yup. It's the Rush ones. But man... DT should totally make bobbleheads of themselves.
Wow!!
I gotta say, Zep's collection is definitely worthy of a small room, a full wall, or even a small wing in the soon-to-be Long Island Music Hall of Fame. The more stuff he shows us, the more I realize what a remarkable collection he has. His display could even become a destination for hardcore DT fans that visit the NY area. His collection is a treasure, and something should come of his years of hard work and $$$ spent gathering it all into one place.
Amen, brother!
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Jordan Rudess ACTION FIGRRRRR! :D
FTFY ;)
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Give me a call if you ever decide to rent that room. ;D
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Seconded. :biggrin:
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Seconded. :biggrin:
I'm closer. :lol
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(https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/bizarredevotedfan/Randomness/pff.gif)
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Ask and ye shall receive...
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/DTInterview17_zpsb9dc8c9a.jpg)
Holy shit OMG Mike likes Sepultura!!!!!
Awesome thread, Back in Black Images & Words has definitely confused someone back in the day.
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Holy shit OMG Mike likes Sepultura!!!!!
Not only does he like Sepultura, but he's in an occasional side project metal cover band with Andreas Kisser (called HAIL!)
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When the paper said September 8th, I thought it referred to 2010 XDDD
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Holy shit OMG Mike likes Sepultura!!!!!
Not only does he like Sepultura, but he's in an occasional side project metal cover band with Andreas Kisser (called HAIL!)
Hmm yeah I've heard of HAIL! It's a cover band, isn't it?
Andreas is though far from his best days. He is one of the most talented guitarists in the world, but he has been doing ear-braking wah-wah/vibrato for last 15 years.
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When the paper said September 8th, I thought it referred to 2010 XDDD
"Mike, if someone were to ask you if on this day, September 8th, in about 13-15 years you would leave this band to do other things, how would you respond."
MP: This is my baby, and I don't think I could ever divorce this wife that is Dream Theater. It's not like there is another guy named Mike out there that could replace me.
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When the paper said September 8th, I thought it referred to 2010 XDDD
"Mike, if someone were to ask you if on this day, September 8th, in about 13-15 years you would leave this band to do other things, how would you respond."
MP: This is my baby, and I don't think I could ever divorce this wife that is Dream Theater. It's not like there is another guy named Mike out there that could replace me.
:-X :facepalm:
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When I was still living at my parents' house my entire bedroom was pretty much covered with DT posters. It was pretty ridiculous.
Old WDADU poster (w/ Charlie), I&W Booklet poster, DTIFC poster and LSFNY Poster -
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/DSC01349.jpg)
Super duper ginourmous SFAM poster -
And some others.... (WDADU, I&W, Awake and FII album covers and a couple other random ones) -
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/DSC01146.jpg)
I remember these from the last time you put them up here. Cool pics.
A lot of my favs are in here. I actually like that Scenes poster more than the movie poster that I had, but then I usually love those Euro tour posters more than the ones you find here.
Never bought those Rush bobbleheads. They never did anything for me.
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Never bought those Rush bobbleheads. They never did anything for me.
Not even when you do this? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8_AhxR3tZ4
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ITEM #6 - CHARLIE DOMINICI BACKSTAGE PASS
Front:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/018D7DFE-2B76-40FA-9EAB-21C755C5A080-526-0000001EF00EE7DC.jpg)
Back:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/CD55B89C-6A9B-49F6-B134-43541AE0A317-526-0000001EF3B92A7E.jpg)
I guess this is a sort of one-of-a-kind item too. This is a backstage pass for Charlie's last show with DT at the Ritz in New York City. But it's not just any backstage pass - it's the one that was actually used by Charlie for the show. I got this one directly from Charlie himself when he was selling off some old DT stuff to raise money for his recent albums.
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Totally awesome! :omg:
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Gotta love the "Say no to drugs"
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That's pretty cool, Zep! :tup
Gotta love the "Say no to drugs"
Yeah, no kidding. :jets:
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ITEM #6 - CHARLIE DOMINICI BACKSTAGE PASS
I guess this is a sort of one-of-a-kind item too. This is a backstage pass for Charlie's last show with DT at the Ritz in New York City. But it's not just any backstage pass - it's the one that was actually used by Charlie for the show. I got this one directly from Charlie himself when he was selling off some old DT stuff to raise money for his recent albums.
Nice! I've got a ticket from that show signed by him!
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ITEM #6 - CHARLIE DOMINICI BACKSTAGE PASS
Front:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/018D7DFE-2B76-40FA-9EAB-21C755C5A080-526-0000001EF00EE7DC.jpg)
Back:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/CD55B89C-6A9B-49F6-B134-43541AE0A317-526-0000001EF3B92A7E.jpg)
I guess this is a sort of one-of-a-kind item too. This is a backstage pass for Charlie's last show with DT at the Ritz in New York City. But it's not just any backstage pass - it's the one that was actually used by Charlie for the show. I got this one directly from Charlie himself when he was selling off some old DT stuff to raise money for his recent albums.
Nice! Probably is one of a kind. Even more cool is that venue doesn't exist anymore (at least i don't think it does.)
All of have from that show is an unsigned ticket stub, a T-shirt that doesn't fit me anymore and a fading memory of that show (which I revisit via live recording).
I'm not sure who I was more excited to see that night Dream Theater or Marillion.
2 for 6.
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Nice! Probably is one of a kind. Even more cool is that venue doesn't exist anymore (at least i don't think it does.)
All of have from that show is an unsigned ticket stub, a T-shirt that doesn't fit me anymore and a fading memory of that show (which I revisit via live recording).
I'm not sure who I was more excited to see that night Dream Theater or Marillion.
2 for 6.
As far as I know, the building reverted back to Studio 54 and shows off-Broadway shows.
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Awesome stuff Zepp!!!!! :hat
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Nice! Probably is one of a kind. Even more cool is that venue doesn't exist anymore (at least i don't think it does.)
All of have from that show is an unsigned ticket stub, a T-shirt that doesn't fit me anymore and a fading memory of that show (which I revisit via live recording).
I'm not sure who I was more excited to see that night Dream Theater or Marillion.
2 for 6.
As far as I know, the building reverted back to Studio 54 and shows off-Broadway shows.
That sounds about right.
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/pre-dream-theater-MAJESTY-RARE-1987-DEMO-cassette-tape-/360306058929?pt=Music_Cassettes&hash=item53e3ea26b1
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1000 clams? :eek
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To a collector, that is worth it for a 4 track demo tape. A friend of GDT purchased a batch of such tapes from Charlie a few years ago and that looks just like them, so I'd say it's legit.
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I don't think anybody is gonna buy it for that much. This has been listed for ages. It was actually down to $750 about a month ago... I guess the seller decided "Hey, nobody is buying it for $750, so I might as well increase the price back to $1,000". I definitely thinks its legit, but the difference between this and the Charlie tapes is that the Charlie tapes were a bunch of tapes, and they all had stuff that had never been released before.
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I don't think anybody is gonna buy it for that much. This has been listed for ages. It was actually down to $750 about a month ago... I guess the seller decided "Hey, nobody is buying it for $750, so I might as well increase the price back to $1,000". I definitely thinks its legit, but the difference between this and the Charlie tapes is that the Charlie tapes were a bunch of tapes, and they all had stuff that had never been released before.
I don't doubt it's the real deal. I never saw one of these before.
My budget tops out at about $100 for this so I won't be adding it any time soon.
It lists 10 offers though. Is that considered high in the ebay world?
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I guess it's a lot, but this is also ridiculously overpriced for the eBay world, which is probably why there have been so many offers. I briefly considered submitting an offer for $1.00.
p.s. ~ Still got more stuff coming, just been busy for the past few days. Hoping to do the next one tomorrow night. I know what it will be, but its another one requiring a video that I still need to shoot.
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p.s. ~ Still got more stuff coming, just been busy for the past few days. Hoping to do the next one tomorrow night. I know what it will be, but its another one requiring a video that I still need to shoot.
Looking forward to it....
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ITEM #7 - DOROTHY WALLACE - AMERICA/AUTOMO JOE
Front:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/47419528-D8E6-401F-9380-14B1BFE0D798-732-0000005BFB9072C9_zpsd3b2493d.jpg)
Back:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/IMG_1289_zpsbd564d6e.jpg)
Disc:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/IMG_1290_zpsf05f9133.jpg)
I don't know the exact date of this one, but I'm assuming it's some time around 1991/1992. Local artist Dorothy Wallace put out a 45 single of the song "America" with a Jimi Hendrix Tribute song, "Automo Joe", as the B-side. I don't know exactly what the connection is between Dorothy Wallace and John Petrucci, or how this collaboration came about, but JP provides guitar for the Hendrix tribute. For a long time most people (including me) didn't even know this existed, then about 10 years ago, a mega collector (whose name escapes me) became terminally ill and a friend of his helped him sell off his entire collection. It was easily the largest DT collection I've ever seen, and as part of that collection, he had about 20 or 30 copies of this single. They all went pretty quickly, as every serious collector on the scene at the time immediately bought one up, and then they completely disappeared again. It's especially unique because it's a song that most people probably haven't heard, and features JP doing his best Hendrix impersonation. I don't have a turntable cable of converting vinyl to digital, but I can at least blast my stereo and record it with my phone, so here's a YouTube clip featuring the song in its entirety:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usRGvzYulRo
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I go to Google to search for a digital version of that song and your YouTube video shows up on the first page. :lol
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Hah. That's how rare it is. I'd be surprised if a digital version exists.
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/pre-dream-theater-MAJESTY-RARE-1987-DEMO-cassette-tape-/360306058929?pt=Music_Cassettes&hash=item53e3ea26b1
Maybe I'm being overly skeptical, but how would one possibly know this is legit? I mean, technically the Majesty album booklet is just a folded photocopy and the cassette is just an old-school Maxwell tape, which is how unknown bands did things back then I assume. But couldn't someone reproduce that today for like $5 -- and then post it on ebay for $1,000? The hard part would just be getting the right Maxwell blank tape, which I'm sure could be found online somewhere for a few bucks. I'm not accusing the seller of doing this, but it's possible -- and it's an easy way to make a few hundred $$ profit.
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Maybe I'm being overly skeptical, but how would one possibly know this is legit? I mean, technically the Majesty album booklet is just a folded photocopy and the cassette is just an old-school Maxwell tape, which is how unknown bands did things back then I assume. But couldn't someone reproduce that today for like $5 -- and then post it on ebay for $1,000? The hard part would just be getting the right Maxwell blank tape, which I'm sure could be found online somewhere for a few bucks. I'm not accusing the seller of doing this, but it's possible -- and it's an easy way to make a few hundred $$ profit.
Maxwell House made tapes?
:mehlin
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/pre-dream-theater-MAJESTY-RARE-1987-DEMO-cassette-tape-/360306058929?pt=Music_Cassettes&hash=item53e3ea26b1
Maybe I'm being overly skeptical, but how would one possibly know this is legit? I mean, technically the Majesty album booklet is just a folded photocopy and the cassette is just an old-school Maxwell tape, which is how unknown bands did things back then I assume. But couldn't someone reproduce that today for like $5 -- and then post it on ebay for $1,000? The hard part would just be getting the right Maxwell blank tape, which I'm sure could be found online somewhere for a few bucks. I'm not accusing the seller of doing this, but it's possible -- and it's an easy way to make a few hundred $$ profit.
Really there's no way to be 100% sure other than maybe showing it to Mike Portnoy and asking him. Most of the time with this stuff it really just comes down to instinct or subjective judgment. But there are a few reasons I'm inclined to believe this is real - and they all really are about the insert rather than the tape itself. The logo, font and P.O. Box address are all correct, and look exactly as they should look for something from this time period. Obviously somebody with the right knowledge would be able to recreate this, but it would probably take a lot of effort (especially recreating that logo), and it would require having some pretty detailed knowledge of the band. Plus, as Wey mentioned, the tapes look exactly like the Charlie tapes did... not just the fact that they're on the Maxwell brand tape, but even the way they're labeled - I'd be very surprised if that isn't Mike Portnoy's handwriting on the tape. The fact that it's not evenly cut also gives it a bit of authenticity... a lot of times fakes of these things are a bit "too perfect". Considering the status of the band at the time and the fact that this is just a rough demo, there's a good chance that the insert was just hand-cut.
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ITEM #7 - DOROTHY WALLACE - AMERICA/AUTOMO JOE
Front:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/47419528-D8E6-401F-9380-14B1BFE0D798-732-0000005BFB9072C9_zpsd3b2493d.jpg)
I don't know the exact date of this one, but I'm assuming it's some time around 1991/1992. Local artist Dorothy Wallace put out a 45 single of the song "America" with a Jimi Hendrix Tribute song, "Automo Joe", as the B-side. I don't know exactly what the connection is between Dorothy Wallace and John Petrucci, or how this collaboration came about, but JP provides guitar for the Hendrix tribute. For a long time most people (including me) didn't even know this existed, then about 10 years ago, a mega collector (whose name escapes me) became terminally ill and a friend of his helped him sell off his entire collection. It was easily the largest DT collection I've ever seen, and as part of that collection, he had about 20 or 30 copies of this single. They all went pretty quickly, as every serious collector on the scene at the time immediately bought one up, and then they completely disappeared again. It's especially unique because it's a song that most people probably haven't heard, and features JP doing his best Hendrix impersonation. I don't have a turntable cable of converting vinyl to digital, but I can at least blast my stereo and record it with my phone, so here's a YouTube clip featuring the song in its entirety:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usRGvzYulRo
I think I found out about this one in one of the fanzines stortly after it happened and found it at a record show (or maybe it was in Record Collector magazine?)
You're one up on me though, becuase I never played my copy -- never even heard it -- until I watched your clip. Sounds decent enough.
3 for 7.
As far as the demo tape goes. If was interested in something like this (at that price), I'd be asking tons of questions about it and maybe goes as far a getting some independent verification somewhere.
It's easy for me to sit here and say it looks real because...well...it does.
There have been cases of more popular and collectible bands that people have tried to fake (The Beatles being an obvious one). You really have to know what you're looking for.
For example, before the only known real Rush Caress of Steel boot surfaced, there was at least one attempt at a fake boot which used songs from Caress of Steel from other tours and used album versions of songs with a live crowd mixed in.
So there are certainly people that try and get away with stuff like that, you just have to weigh all of the various factors.
But as I said, it looks real to me for the reasons Zepp has already given.
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I think I found out about this one in one of the fanzines stortly after it happened and found it at a record show (or maybe it was in Record Collector magazine?)
I actually totally forgot about that. Now that you mention it, I think it was mentioned at some point in one of the very early fanzines, but after that it was sort of forgotten about for ages.
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Nice piece of memorabilia Zepp.
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Nice piece of memorabilia Zepp.
No kidding! :tup
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Maybe I'm being overly skeptical, but how would one possibly know this is legit? I mean, technically the Majesty album booklet is just a folded photocopy and the cassette is just an old-school Maxwell tape, which is how unknown bands did things back then I assume. But couldn't someone reproduce that today for like $5 -- and then post it on ebay for $1,000? The hard part would just be getting the right Maxwell blank tape, which I'm sure could be found online somewhere for a few bucks. I'm not accusing the seller of doing this, but it's possible -- and it's an easy way to make a few hundred $$ profit.
Maxwell House made tapes?
:mehlin
Good to the last note!
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:lol
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When I was still living at my parents' house my entire bedroom was pretty much covered with DT posters. It was pretty ridiculous.
Old WDADU poster (w/ Charlie), I&W Booklet poster, DTIFC poster and LSFNY Poster -
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/DSC01349.jpg)
What's the vinyl next to Awake?
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What's the vinyl next to Awake?
Live at the Marquee.
https://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg125/dreamtheaterforums/live-at-the-marquee.jpg
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Either Live at the Marquee or the Pull Me Under single.
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What's the vinyl next to Awake?
It's the 12" single for Lie. And then next to that is Live at the Marquee. Not sure why they were in that order though.
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What's the vinyl next to Awake?
It's the 12" single for Lie. And then next to that is Live at the Marquee. Not sure why they were in that order though.
I'm so damn jealous of you. Eve on vinyl?! Lucky bastard. :-\
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What's the vinyl next to Awake?
It's the 12" single for Lie. And then next to that is Live at the Marquee. Not sure why they were in that order though.
I'm so damn jealous of you. Eve on vinyl?! Lucky bastard. :-\
I don't think they are all that rare. At least they didn't used to be.
It was commercially released, but I'm not sure how many copies were pressed. It may have been limited, but you know how that goes.
I'll check to see if I have an extra.
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What's the vinyl next to Awake?
It's the 12" single for Lie. And then next to that is Live at the Marquee. Not sure why they were in that order though.
I'm so damn jealous of you. Eve on vinyl?! Lucky bastard. :-\
I don't think they are all that rare. At least they didn't used to be.
It was commercially released, but I'm not sure how many copies were pressed. It may have been limited, but you know how that goes.
I'll check to see if I have an extra.
I remember seeing one on eBay not too long ago. It didn't go for that much either. This is a really good time to buy things on eBay I think. I'm guessing because things are a bit hard right now and people are looking for any way to make some quick money. That being said, people also aren't spending as much on things. I was able to grab a couple of things lately at half the price I normally see them.
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I've seen the Lie vinyl on eBay quite a few times. As the vinyl came with a fanzine poster, type "Dream Theater Poster" into the search you might find one.
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I've seen the Lie vinyl on eBay quite a few times. As the vinyl came with a fanzine poster, type "Dream Theater Poster" into the search you might find one.
That's right. I forgot about that. It wasn't so much a poster as a really cool fan bio with a lot of information that wasn't available at the time.
As if there aren't enough reasons to appreciate Neil Elliot for running the fanzine in the early days, this is yet another. I think he was behind compiling the information in there.
Unfortunately, I must have sold my extra copy.
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Fantastic thread!! love the pics of your old room :heart :heart !!! :)
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ITEM #8 - WHEN DREAM AND DAY UNITE HANDWRITTEN LYRICS SHEETS
Intro page from Charlie:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/IMG_1360_zps0e48708b.jpg)
A Fortune In Lies:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/Dreamologie/sc0060ca1a.jpg)
Status Seeker, Page 1:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/Dreamologie/sc00617cf1.jpg)
Status Seeker, Page 2:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/Dreamologie/sc0061952c.jpg)
The Killing Hand, Page 1:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/Dreamologie/sc00612e1b.jpg)
The Killing Hand, Page 2:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/Dreamologie/sc0061521b.jpg)
Light Fuse and Get Away, Page 1:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/Dreamologie/sc0061e89e.jpg)
Light Fuse and Get Away, Page 2:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/Dreamologie/sc0061ffcd.jpg)
Light Fuse and Get Away, Page 3:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/Dreamologie/sc00621fce.jpg)
Afterlife, Page 1:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/Dreamologie/sc0061add4.jpg)
Afterlife, Page 2:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/Dreamologie/sc0061cf5c.jpg)
The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/Dreamologie/sc0060ec53.jpg)
Only A Matter of Time, Page 1:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/Dreamologie/sc00623cf1.jpg)
Only A Matter of Time, Page 2:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/Dreamologie/sc0062520f.jpg)
These are the original, hand-written lyrics sheets used by Charlie when he recorded the vocals for When Dream And Day Unite. One of the coolest things about these is that you can see a couple of dropped or changed lyrics from earlier drafts. I picked these up directly from Charlie himself when he was selling off a bunch of his stuff. In addition to the lyrics, he also included a brief one-page note addressed to me, where, for some reason he said that the lyrics to "The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun" are missing. I have no idea why he said that though, because, as you can see, they actually were included. Some of you who follow Franz's site may have seen these before, as I scanned them a while ago and sent the pics to him for inclusion on his page, but aside from that I don't think I've ever shared them before, and I know this is the first time anybody has seen the intro note before.
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I've seen the OAMOT ( :lol at the working title!) and LF&GA ones at The Mooreatorium already but impressive nonetheless! :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
I wonder where that first part in TKH was supposed to be - in the intro, perhaps?
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Kevin had the most exceptional handwriting ever :omg:
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Kevin had the most exceptional handwriting ever :omg:
No kidding. :o
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Well, Kevin is an exceptional person... :D
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Cool entry indeed Zep. I'm just surprised a collector as (usually) shrewd as yourself could get tricked into paying full price despite the obvious absence of Ytse Jam's lyrics sheet.
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Wow! :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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Yes, very cool! :tup
I was worried that these would stop because I had not seen any in a while. This is a great thread to document DT history.
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Well, Kevin is an exceptional person... :D
:hat
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Yes, very cool! :tup
I was worried that these would stop because I had not seen any in a while. This is a great thread to document DT history.
Nah. I recently started a masters degree program and I've been swamped with work lately, but I definitely haven't forgotten this thread. I've still got lots more stuff to post... it's just sporadic because I only really do it whenever I've got some free time.
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To me, these early lyrics sheets are one of the most awesome pieces of memorabilia a fan can have. So cool, especially the handwritten edits.
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I think it's the first time I see JP's handwriting in anything that's not his signature!
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To me, these early lyrics sheets are one of the most awesome pieces of memorabilia a fan can have. So cool, especially the handwritten edits.
It doesn't get any better than this.
3 for 8
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ITEM #9 - Limelight Dreambill
Cover:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/IMG_1371_zps34a143f7.jpg)
First Page:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/IMG_1372_zps84dfb14e.jpg)
Biography:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/IMG_1373_zpsdcb9f290.jpg)
Setlist and Credits:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/IMG_1374_zps5e2ca54f.jpg)
Back cover:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/IMG_1375_zps963027da.jpg)
Since today is the 20 year anniversary of this show, it seemed like an appropriate thing to add. To be totally honest, I don't even remember how I got this. I'm pretty sure it was just a "bonus" item that came with something else that I had bid on, but I don't recall what that original item was. This Dreambill isn't the easiest thing in the world to find, but I have seen them pop up on eBay from time to time. Mine isn't in the greatest condition, but it is signed by 4 band members. Not much else to say about this one... just thought it would be perfect for today.
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:heart
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Awesome^^ :). I must get this bootleg somehow and listen to it, a important piece of DT-history.
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What a setlist!
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Cool! Were those given to the attendees for free or did one have to buy them? Either way, it must've been exciting to see the names of all those then-unreleased songs in the setlist!
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First Page:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/IMG_1372_zps84dfb14e.jpg)
Gotta love how Kevin Moore isn't looking at the camera.
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Awesome^^ :). I must get this bootleg somehow and listen to it, a important piece of DT-history.
https://ytsejamrecords.com/ProductCart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=29&idcategory=8
Cool! Were those given to the attendees for free or did one have to buy them? Either way, it must've been exciting to see the names of all those then-unreleased songs in the setlist!
I'm assuming they were given out, but I don't really know for sure.
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Oh, this is just gold. My resolution to rob your house is increaing :lol
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Oh, this is just gold. My resolution to rob your house is increaing :lol
Too late. My plane ticket is ready!
You live in London right?
No?
AWWW DANGIT.
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ITEM #9 - Limelight Dreambill
Cover:
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/ZeppelinDT/IMG_1371_zps34a143f7.jpg)
Figured this would turn up sooner or later. Good timing. I have a video of this show too It's probably online somewhere.
Have one of these myself, but it's unsigned.
4 for 9
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That's, well, just so
(https://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i238/hefdaddy42/funny/carlton-1.gif)
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That's, well, just so
(https://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i238/hefdaddy42/funny/carlton-1.gif)
I just got that song on vinyl. :tup
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Umm, OK.
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:lol
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I once had a copy of Black Sabbath's Paranoid album that had some kids PC spelling game on it. I was confused