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A band that has never created anything less than perfect (in your opinion, of course).
You love every song on every album, and wouldn't dream of changing anything about any song.
Produced at least 3 albums... to eliminate bands that have done no wrong, but not released enough for this title to carry the same weight. Please mention these bands anyhow.
My 2: Agalloch and TOOL
Interestingly, I hardly ever listen to TOOL, because I need to be in a certain mood before I even think about putting them on. However, I just listened to Lateralus for the hundredth time or whatever, and it never ceases to amaze me. Of course, the same goes for the rest of their albums. As for Agalloch, I can't begin to put into words how their music affects me, only that it does... a lot.
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Death, seriously amazing band.
Other than that Kvelertak is just now about to release album #2 so I can't include them yet.
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System of a Down. There are albums that I enjoy less than others, but every album is absolutely essential in their evolution as a band and a perfect disc, imho.
Other than that, I enjoy pretty much everything that Rammstein ever put out, but not every album they did is perfect, so that's it.
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Fair to Midland for me, probably also Agalloch.
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Fair to Midland, The Tallest Man on Earth, August Burns Red, and arguably Thrice. They have demos and stuff that aren't that great, but every single studio album they've released ranges from good to absolutely jaw-dropping amazing.
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Most bands have that one stinker but out of the 11 or 12 they've done so far - Green Day have never disappointed me.
Some albums are much better than others of course but they've never done that one album that everybody agrees is awful.
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Transatlantic.
Yes, yes, I know they ONLY have three albums out, but they're flawless to me. Each album is astonishing, their playing and performances are awe-inspiring, and the music just never gets old for me. I can pop in any of their 3 albums at any time and be excited for a wild symphonic prog ride!
As for any other bands...hmmm. It'd odd, a lot of my favorite bands have at least one song or album that just doesn't stand up to the rest, like Yes, Genesis, Rush, Dream Theater, The Flower Kings, Spock's Beard, Marillion, etc. etc... each of those bands have had great highs, but some particularly mind-boggling lows as well.
I suppose, if you're a band with 3-5 albums, you're more likely to fit into this category.
-Marc.
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God Forbid
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I can think of several. Oceansize, The Dear Hunter, Agalloch, Mew, Amplifier, Riverside, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Mr. Bungle, Alcest.
There are probably more I forgot about.
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Aside from bands that have only 1 release, I can't think of a single one. Even my favorites like Pain of Salvation and Devy have CD's I don't really care for.
I guess the closest is Anneke Van Geirsburgen who has 1 cd that isn't completely amazing.
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You love every song on every album, and wouldn't dream of changing anything about any song.
No such artist exists.
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No such thing for me. Every band I like has at least one song that doesn't work for me, is boring, awful, I actively hate it, etc. No band I like has an album where I could say "there isn't a thing I would change." Even when I massively fanboy over a band, I can find things that aren't perfect. Which to me is a good thing; I simply don't think music is something you completely get right 100% of the time. That's the charm of it.
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Gorillaz, definitely. It's odd because they're not my favorite band in terms of how their songs affect me, how often I listen to them, etc. But I listen to them so much and I can sit down and hit "shuffle" and go through every album of every song and not dislike or skip a single one. This is the only band I can do that with; even with bands that I consider to be 'better' and that I like more, such as PT or Radiohead, I love to bits but will still have a few songs that I don't like all that much or that I will skip over because the part that I do like doesn't hit until the final notes, whatever it may be. Gorillaz have stood the test of time for me and they've really become a big part of my musical life and influences. They are the perfect band for me.
System of a Down as well, I don't dislike a single song of theirs. I need to listen to them soon..been too long.
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Alice in Chains
Byzantine
Arch Enemy
Nevermore
Psychotic Waltz
Atheist
and of course
Death
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Godspeed You! Black Emperor is the only band I can think of that doesn't have any songs I dislike or find boring.
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Alice in Chains
Byzantine
Arch Enemy
Nevermore
and of course
Death
Don't know enough about AiC, Byzantine, Nevermore or Death but I was very disappointed in Arch Enemy's last few albums.
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Eh. Angela's era surely ain't no Johan's era as far as the music goes but they set the bar so damn high with Burning Bridges that even a slight decline for them will still result in pretty damn good melodeath. I just wish they'd stop trying to out-heavy themselves on every album if it means the melodic aspect being not quite as good as it was on previous albums.
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Eh. Angela's era surely ain't no Johan's era as far as the music goes but they set the bar so damn high with Burning Bridges that even a slight decline for them will still result in pretty damn good melodeath. I just wish they'd stop trying to out-heavy themselves on every album if it means the melodic aspect being not quite as good as it was on previous albums.
I never got too into the pre-angela stuff. I thought Wages of Sin was their best effort. But since then it seems that their melodic ideas are REALLY samey and Angela began just screaming the same rhythm as whatever melody they were playing on the chorus rather than coming up with a good independent vocal part.
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Check this one (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYFWLxUHYHI) out. If you like that, then check out the rest of Burning Bridges. I still love it as much now as I did when I first heard it in 2000.
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Eh, not really my thing once the vocals came in.
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Circus Maximus
And if we were to not count Redemption's first album since Nick Van Dyk doesn't even like it, then them too.
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Haken (yes, I know they only have 2 albums, but I'm a huge fanboy)
Godspeed You(!) Black Emperor(!)
are the only 2 that come to mind for me. As much as I love some other stuff, there's always a stinker here or there.
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System of a Down as well, I don't dislike a single song of theirs. I need to listen to them soon..been too long.
Yes you do.
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I need to add Enslaved to my list.
Seriously the progression they made from a straight up Black Metal band into the beautiful Progressive Black Metal they play now is absolutely awe inspiring, and many bands can't even hope to become as good as they are.
Oh and Lady Gaga, and provided I absolutely love Grimes first album like I have her other two (Just got it, about to listen to it) that would make my list
Death
Enslaved
Grimes
Lady Gaga
Nachtmystium
Baroness
The more I listen to Nachtmystium's older work the more I love it, and Silencing Machine is a fantastic blend of their psychadelia/industrial black metal and traditional black metal.
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I have to agree that no such artist exists. Every artist *eventually* will release something I could do without....and nobody is perfect.
But sometimes you can have a perfect album...or in some very rare instances, I perfect stretch of albums. For me, I played the first 11 Rush albums constantly throughout my childhood...there was not a single track from those first 11 albums I would skip. That's probably the greatest stretch of albums by anyone ever.
But Dream Theater's 7 album stretch from IAW to Octavarium is a close second. There are songs that are "least favorites" but really nothing I don't like.
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I think it is silly to mention bands/artists that only have a few albums, so going with ones that you need more than one hand to count their studio albums:
Rush (even the worst albums are still good)
Porcupine Tree (since becoming a real, full-time band)
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Eh, not really my thing once the vocals came in.
Did you even listen to the whole song?
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System of a down
Apocalyptica
Disturbed
Motörhead
maybe Gojira.....
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Eh, not really my thing once the vocals came in.
Did you even listen to the whole song?
Does it matter? He said he didn't like the vocals. Why keep listening?
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Butt out dude.
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Ummm, no?
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And you wonder why you have the reputation around here that you do :lol
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No such band or artist exist. They have their peak and lowest point in their career which is good for the music.
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I feel like people should look at the question as, "which artists that you enjoy have discographies that don't really have albums you don't like?"
I mean of course some work won't be as strong as others, but I can honestly say with the bands I listed, there isn't an album I don't like/love from them.
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Eh, not really my thing once the vocals came in.
Did you even listen to the whole song?
Does it matter? He said he didn't like the vocals. Why keep listening?
yeah cause it's not like things can grow on you or something.. the first opinion is always the one you stick to no matter what
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And you wonder why you have the reputation around here that you do :lol
I gave you an equally rude answer as you did me when I asked you an honest question. Maybe I have that reputation because there are too many hypocritical assholes like you here.
Ban away, mods.
Eh, not really my thing once the vocals came in.
Did you even listen to the whole song?
Does it matter? He said he didn't like the vocals. Why keep listening?
yeah cause it's not like things can grow on you or something.. the first opinion is always the one you stick to no matter what
And here come the growl defenders...
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I dunno man. I know lots of Zeppelin fans yet I've never heard them mentioning any "black sheep" albums they way other bands seem to have like:
Metallica-Load
Pearl Jam-take your pick of the post-Vs. albums (I love Vitalogy but many didn't...also No Code lost 'em a lot of love at the time)
Opeth-Heritage (for a fair amount of their fanbase anyway)
Pink Floyd-The Final Cut
And you wonder why you have the reputation around here that you do :lol
I gave you an equally rude answer as you did me when I asked you an honest question. Maybe I have that reputation because there are too many hypocritical assholes like you here.
Ban away, mods.
I was talking to Adami and you rudely butted it to basically tell me I have no right to further inquire about the song.
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And here come the growl defenders...
That was necessary.
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I dunno man. I know lots of Zeppelin fans yet I've never heard them mentioning any "black sheep" albums they way other bands seem to have like:
Metallica-Load
Pearl Jam-take your pick of the post-Vs. albums (I love Vitalogy but many didn't...also No Code lost 'em a lot of love at the time)
Opeth-Heritage (for a fair amount of their fanbase anyway)
Pink Floyd-The Final Cut
And you wonder why you have the reputation around here that you do :lol
I gave you an equally rude answer as you did me when I asked you an honest question. Maybe I have that reputation because there are too many hypocritical assholes like you here.
Ban away, mods.
I was talking to Adami and you rudely butted it to basically tell me I have no right to further inquire about the song.
There you go jumping to conclusions again. I just asked a question. Instead of answering, you told me to shove off. I know you enjoy trolling me 'cause I take it so well, but this isn't 5/8.
And here come the growl defenders...
That was necessary.
It was. Any time someone says anything remotely negative about death metal, those fans come to its defense with their condescending tones.
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Wow. What did I accidentally cause?
Anyway floydie I did listen to the whole song. I didn't like the vocals or the music under the verses. I liked the rest of the music but I've heard enough arch enemy that it sounds like standard arch enemy. I am aware that this was before it became standard and thus respect it more, but it didn't blow me away. Overall though I didn't like the vocals or the music under just the verses.
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This is all your fault, Adami.
Anyway, I can't think of anyone that I can fit into this category, but some come close.
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This is all your fault, Adami.
It usually is.
Anyway, I can't think of anyone that I can fit into this category, but some come close.
Indeed I do. :)
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I can't think of any. Maybe Sigur Ros? Or Pocupine Tree? ...Radiohead?
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I can't think of any really. Some come close but that's it.
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I can't think of any. Maybe Sigur Ros? Or Pocupine Tree? ...Radiohead?
I can't speak for you Joe obviously, but personally I couldn't name any of those because Sigur Rós has Von, Porcupine Tree has On the Sunday of Life and Radiohead has Pablo Honey. :P
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I'm just surprised to see someone naming anything other than Kid A as Radiohead's goat.
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The closest for me would be Porcupine Tree, Mastodon and Coheed, but even then there are songs I don't like ("Made Out of Nothing" by Coheed, the YOTBR demos that didn't make the album, most of OTSOL by PT, and a few songs from Remission and Blood Mountain, plus "Thickening" by Mastodon).
Oh wait, Eisley exists and I don't dislike any of their songs. Carry on.
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Eisley
YES. Forgot this.
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Eh, bands with less than 5 studio albums shouldn't count.
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I dunno man. I know lots of Zeppelin fans yet I've never heard them mentioning any "black sheep" albums they way other bands seem to have like:
Metallica-Load
Pearl Jam-take your pick of the post-Vs. albums (I love Vitalogy but many didn't...also No Code lost 'em a lot of love at the time)
Opeth-Heritage (for a fair amount of their fanbase anyway)
Pink Floyd-The Final Cut
You must not know the right Zeppelin fans. The general consensus is that they peaked at Physical Graffiti, and both Presence and In Through The Out Door have sizable amounts of detractors. Depending on who you ask, either one of those rightly counted as black sheep albums, until How the West Was Won and Celebration Day arrived for the elitists to turn their noses up towards. And yes, they ALREADY hate Celebration Day.
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Eh, bands with less than 5 studio albums shouldn't count.
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Fair To Midland comes into mind, 4 albums of bliss if you ask me
dredg would be here if it wasn't for CMS, incubus would be here also if it wasn't for If Not Now, When?
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I'd throw nightwish in there if you consider Oceanborn to be their first album like they do.
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Frost* are a fairly easy answer, having only put out two albums, but they're also a correct one.
Aside that? Only band that comes to mind is Dream Theater. Certainly, without a doubt, they get eleven passes out of a maximum of eleven if we're looking at them on an album by album basis, but even going song by song... their worst songs are mediocre, rather than terrible. My least favourite is probably The Ones Who Helped to Set the Sun, and you could load five songs of that calibre onto a "quite good" Iron Maiden album before I'd realise something was up.
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Deftones.
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Only three I can think of:
The Dear Hunter
Mew
Regina Spektor
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Led Zeppelin.
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You love every song on every album, and wouldn't dream of changing anything about any song.
This line alone precludes any band with more than 2 or 3 releases. Seriously. Most here know I have Zeppelin, DT and Rush tattoos... permanent fans of theirs I am. But even those bands have a song or three that I cringe at. As far as whole albums, there are plenty of bands that have great discographies, start to finish.
I was going to chime in to agree with Circus Maximus and Frost*, but again... only 3 and 2 releases respectfully. There's plenty in that boat.
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Oceansize is the first band that comes to mind for me, though they have one song per album I don't really like usually.
(Oddly enough both EPs are exempt)
They've never made anything less than a great album but they're still not flawless, really, nobody is.
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I'm going to make a silly suggestion:
Yes - Anderson/Wakeman/Howe/Squire/White
This line-up yielded FOUR studio albums: Tales From Topographic Oceans, Going For The One, Tormato, and Keys To Ascension/Keystudio.
Sure, Tormato isn't ENTIRELY golden, but those four albums are pretty fantastic, and I'd say they're four of the band's BEST albums. I'd take those four over the Anderson/Rabin/Kaye/Squire/White line-up anyday.
Also, I'd say Genesis, if it was the Gabriel/Banks/Rutherford/Collins/Hackett line-up, which also yielded four studio albums: Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot, Selling England By The Pound, and The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway - all complete stellar albums.
I'd say line-up changes in a band allow specific sections of a discography to count to this because technically, the changes in the line-up make for a different band, especially in the cases of Yes and Genesis. If I also could include it, I'd add the Wetton-Era King Crimson Trilogy: Larks' Tongues In Aspic, Starless And Bible Black and Red.
-Marc.
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Animal Alpha. Every single song is perfect.
Nightwish comes pretty close, though they have some mediocre songs.
Eh, bands with less than 5 studio albums shouldn't count.
It's not my fault that they broke up after EP and 2 studio albums!
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OSI, Sonata Arctica and Katatonia are the only ones that come to mind - almost every band has at least one or two stinkers in their discography.
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The closest for me would be Queen. And IQ, probably.
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There is no such thing for me. The Beatles is my #1 band of all time, but even they have done stuff I'm not that crazy over.
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I can't think of any, and out of the bands that have been mentioned so far that I'm familiar with, I disagree.
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Rush, I don't own all of their albums yet, but the ones I do, I enjoy quite thoroughly.
Circus Maximus comes to mind, but I only own NINE, so I'm not sure I can form an educated opinion yet.
What's the deal with Frost*, I don't know anything about them? Is it time for me to make another amazing discovery through Dream Theater Forums?
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Frost*. Yes. At your earliest convenience. Like, nao. And look at CM's first two as well.
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I would say System of a Down, however, I don't like how they sound live. That detracts from perfection. Also, there are two songs on their first album I don't particularly enjoy.
There is only one artist that I love every song they've made, they only have two albums however, and it's Yelawolf.
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I would say System of a Down, however, I don't like how they sound live. That detracts from perfection.
As a fanboy, I have to ask: what don't you like about their live performances? When I saw them, it was far and away the best concert that I ever witnessed.
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Avenged Sevenfold and Between The Buried & Me if you're asking me.
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I honestly could not think of a single band that falls into this category. Not for me, anyways. If it weren't for Heritage, Opeth would be pretty close. If it weren't for their Self-Titled album and Feel Euphoria which I think has a few duds on it, Spock's Beard would be close. I think Andromeda has a very solid catalog. Perfection, though? nah. Avantasia's catalog is tight, but again, perfection? I don't think so.
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Kevin Moore
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I can think of bands that are more consistent than others, but even my absolute top bands all have songs and sometimes albums I just think are fair to shit. I really can't imagine any band ever writing music that is consistently incredible and that never drop the ball in terms of my own unique personal taste. The closest band would be Dream Theater. And that's why they're my favourite band, because across 25 years of music every single album has multiple moments of absolute jaw dropping awesomeness and several of their albums are consistently phenomonal imo. But even they have songs I dislike.
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Kevin Moore
I dunno how I forgot about this mangod. Add him to my list as well. OSI could be counted in that as well. Pretty much anything Kevin has touched, I don't think I've actively disliked. :heart :heart :heart
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Flame on, y'all, but I think Nirvana never disappointed their fans at all. Bleach was raw and fitting, Nevermind was remarkably well-rounded, Incesticide was a very interesting and eclectic odd and ends, and In Utero was seemingly the dawn of a new era that would unfortunately never see the full light of day. Also, Unplugged in New York was a fantastic offering that showed their relative ease in making a great show out of a lowkey setting.
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Kevin Moore
I dunno how I forgot about this mangod. Add him to my list as well. OSI could be counted in that as well. Pretty much anything Kevin has touched, I don't think I've actively disliked. :heart :heart :heart
Since the title thread goes "bands/artists"... yup, Kevs all the way.
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What's the deal with Frost*, I don't know anything about them? Is it time for me to make another amazing discovery through Dream Theater Forums?
I think it might be.
They're a UK band, sort of formed around the main songwriter Jem Godfrey. His day job is writing jingles, (he's responsible for all the jingles on BBC Radio 2 right now,) his second job is as a pop producer, and his third job is progressive rock.
Basically, then, he's a prog rocker trapped in a popsmith's body, and it shows, and it's brilliant. His stuff's very keyboardy, very instrumental, very turbulent, but there's a sort of pop discipline to them. It's still progressive rock, but it doesn't sprawl like it - it's curt, concise, and honed, melodically driven with choruses that roar like a radio single. Very unique among the prog world, a brilliant anomaly, and it's very hard to describe what Frost* do - you can't quite put your finger on this very particular character they've got - so the best thing I can do is show you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru7mWyM_tc8
Here you go. Little eight minute video where Jem (eventually!) talks you through a song he's writing. If it's piqued your interest, check them out. If not, oh well!
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I think it's hard to categorise songs as "perfect" or "wouldn't change a thing about it"... I mean, even in songs that I consider some of my absolute favourite I don't think it'd be too difficult to suggest small changes that might make me like it even more, or at least not impact how much I like it. At the same time, just because I think a song is "perfect" as in I don't think there's any small change that could improve it doesn't mean I necessarily think it's that good.
But just in terms of what band do I love that I rate even my least favourite stuff from them very highly, it'd probably be Alter Bridge. Even if there are songs I can easily pick out as my least favourites, in the grand scheme of things I still love those songs. They meet the at least 3 albums requirement - just. On a larger scale, I'd maybe say Mark Tremonti. Not including every song he's had a guest solo on or anything like that, as I don't even know all of them, but across Creed, Alter Bridge and Tremonti there isn't an album I can say I don't like (although I definitely don't rate the worst Creed stuff as highly as the weakest Alter Bridge songs).
If I were only including Labrie era stuff, Dream Theater would also be quite a contender as there are definitely no albums I don't think are great and no songs I can think of that I absolutely hate. But they do have plenty of stuff that's a bit weaker, and then taking into account WDADU, demos, B-sides and whatever I definitely can't say their weakest material holds up enough for me to say they've done no wrong.
Also, I'd say Seventh Wonder if I could restrict it to only their albums with Tommy Karevik. The songs from the first album are not necessarily bad but it just has such poor production and no where near as good a singer. But if I counted only the three after that they'd fit the bill perfectly.
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A band that has never created anything less than perfect (in your opinion, of course).
No such thing exists.
Even if I like everything a band has done, not every single album can be held in the same regard with no flaws whatsoever. Unless the band only has released one album.
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Alice in Chains
The stuff with Layne? Oh yeah, undeniably awesome. The stuff with William? Ehhh... not so much for me.
Now, don't get me wrong - I LOVE William's stuff... with Comes With The Fall.
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Kevin Moore
I dunno how I forgot about this mangod. Add him to my list as well. OSI could be counted in that as well. Pretty much anything Kevin has touched, I don't think I've actively disliked. :heart :heart :heart
Since the title thread goes "bands/artists"... yup, Kevs all the way.
I would've picked him as well if Graveyard Mountain Home was a better album - I just can't get into it... :-\ Fortunately the rest of his works are so strong.
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I would've picked him as well if Graveyard Mountain Home was a better album - I just can't get into it... :-\ Fortunately the rest of his works are so strong.
I really recently got into it and it's amazing for me now. Still haven't heard Memory Hole and Ghost Book, though.
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You know what is frustrating?
Out of the over 15 albums I have with Anneke Van Giersbergen, only 1 do I consider to be mediocre.....not even bad, just not brilliant.
Screw it, I'm counting her.
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Still haven't heard Memory Hole and Ghost Book, though.
Actually I haven't heard those (or Shine) either - I forgot about all these releases he has put out with his own name! :lol I've "only" heard the OSI and Chroma Key albums.
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Mine would have probably been dredg up until Chuckes & Mr Squeezy. Leitmotif, great CD and awesome first effort. El Cielo absolutely beautiful (best album closer on there too), CWA easily my favourite non-DT album by any band. Pariah another incredible and consistent album. And then... Chuckles is shit.
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Mine would have probably been dredg up until Chuckes & Mr Squeezy. Leitmotif, great CD and awesome first effort. El Cielo absolutely beautiful (best album closer on there too), CWA easily my favourite non-DT album by any band. Pariah another incredible and consistent album. And then... Chuckles is shit.
totally, I wanted to put dredg so bad up on the list.
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I was so disappointed with Chuckles. Parts of it are just laughable :( they were capable of so much more and maybe they'll come back with something better but for a band to be so utterly consistently fantastic and then take such a nosedive is sad, I hold out hope for their future though. If I ignore that album then I'd say dredg probably come closer than DT to having done 'no wrong' for me.
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Transatlantic.
Thank you. I almost answered the question with no. I don't think there are other examples...
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Transatlantic.
Thank you. I almost answered the question with no. I don't think there are other examples...
I'm glad someone else agrees! Each of their 3 albums, for me, have been nothing short of A+'s, Gold Stars, 10/10's! Every single song of theirs has been wonderful, and while each artist in the band individually have produced some clunker songs and albums, I can comfortably say that the sum is definitely greater than it's parts in this case! When these four come together, they make magic, and this is why I am eagerly awaiting the release of TA4 next year. The Whirlwind was my AOTY for 2009, even beating DT and PT, and I'm sure TA4 will be a top album for 2013!
-Marc.
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Transatlantic.
Thank you. I almost answered the question with no. I don't think there are other examples...
Yeah, I would agree. But again, a fairly limited discography. There are several other '3-album' bands that could apply. Circus Maximus (already mentioned) comes to mind.
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Alice in Chains
The stuff with Layne? Oh yeah, undeniably awesome. The stuff with William? Ehhh... not so much for me.
Now, don't get me wrong - I LOVE William's stuff... with Comes With The Fall.
You mean Black Gives Way To Blue? But... but that's the best one next to Jar Of Flies! Besides, Layne's era ended with their s/t album, which was pretty much awful.
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Transatlantic is the only one I can think of at the moment.
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Alice in Chains
The stuff with Layne? Oh yeah, undeniably awesome. The stuff with William? Ehhh... not so much for me.
Now, don't get me wrong - I LOVE William's stuff... with Comes With The Fall.
You mean Black Gives Way To Blue? But... but that's the best one next to Jar Of Flies! Besides, Layne's era ended with their s/t album, which was pretty much awful.
No way brah! Heaven Beside You, Again, Over Now, and Grind are awesome even if they're to be held to the expectations of those who were expecting a traditional AiC album. If we throw out traditional AiC expectations then Nothing Song may be the only one that isn't appealing from the getgo. I liked the change in direction in the long run since we got songs like Frogs, God Am, and Head Creeps which may not have fit so gracefully onto earlier albums had they been around at those times.
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No way brah! Heaven Beside You, Again, Over Now, and Grind are awesome even if they're to be held to the expectations of those who were expecting a traditional AiC album. If we throw out traditional AiC expectations then Nothing Song may be the only one that isn't appealing from the getgo. I liked the change in direction in the long run since we got songs like Frogs, God Am, and Head Creeps which may not have fit so gracefully onto earlier albums had they been around at those times.
Le BINGO. I don't know WHY Tripod gets so much hate - it was a fucking BRILLIANT album. Sure, it got its start as a Jerry Cantrell solo album (due to Layne's drug issues/rehabs) but once Layne came back into the AiC fold, he added his own special brand of dark, beautiful insanity to the already dark, insane music Jerry had started writing (which also foreshadowed the full-length Degradation Trip - Jerry started the writing for that around 1998ish).
Nothing Song is AWESOME and you know it, floydie. ;)
Oh, and about God Am? Had the 1996 tour not stopped (again because of Layne), God Am would've been another single (after Grind and Again).
I'm a treasure trove of AiC knowledge, in case you folks didn't notice. ;)
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I'm kinda neutral toward Nothing Song. I appreciate the whimsical way in which it speeds up in a jarring, herky-jerky manner with the goofy vocal style in the chorus but the verses strike me as mundane at times. Nice bits of trivia in your post though :tup
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I wish Zetro hadn't been Exodus's vocalist for the early albums and for the last few before the Rob Dukes Era. Rob Dukes era Exodus is just completely golden but Zetro is so hit and miss. Like Fabulous Disaster is pretty cool, but I never really liked his voice.
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The Dear Hunter for sure, but other than that, I'm at a loss. Even my all-time favorites like Linkin Park and Glass Hammer - heck, even OSI and Porcupine Tree - put out a stinker or two.
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I don't think I'd officially add them to my list, but Daft Punk is really, really close to being on that list. They're so french and awesome.
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I don't think I'd officially add them to my list, but Daft Punk is really, really close to being on that list. They're so french and awesome.
Discovery is perfect from beginning to end :heart
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Hmmm, Although Iced Earth made a few stinkers of songs in their time, their whole albums are all pretty stellar...
...Until they made Dystopia.
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I don't think I'd officially add them to my list, but Daft Punk is really, really close to being on that list. They're so french and awesome.
Discovery is perfect from beginning to end :heart
So very true, if it were album-by-album, that would certainly be on the list. Das baby-makin' music.
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After listening to Grimes first album last night, I can definitely say I love all of her work. It's a really interesting growth her music has gone through, each album showcasing different sides of her music that I'd say all came together for her most recent Visions.
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I don't think I'd officially add them to my list, but Daft Punk is really, really close to being on that list. They're so french and awesome.
Discovery is perfect from beginning to end :heart
Oh yes, Discovery is an incredible and unique album! Nice to see some love for it here. :hat
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now that I think about it, Between the Buried and Me don't really have a song I dislike or think is bad. the first album has some not-so-amazing songs, but they're all still pretty good. also agree with RuRo on the Seventh Wonder thing, if their first album didn't count, they'd be the top contender for this spot.
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I would put forward The Mars Volta as my pick. They haven't put out a single album I haven't loved.
Yes, even Octahedron. I know that isn't seen as favourably as their others, but I could listen to that over and over again as well.
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I'm kinda neutral toward Nothing Song. I appreciate the whimsical way in which it speeds up in a jarring, herky-jerky manner with the goofy vocal style in the chorus
I think that was kind of the point. :lol
but the verses strike me as mundane at times
That may have been the point too - Layne just wrote whatever was in his head at the time the album was finally being recorded as an AiC album and was not able to quote lyrics when pressed (at that time). 1996 was a bad year for Layne, as Demri (the love of his life) died from bacterial endocarditis stemming from their drug use.
Nice bits of trivia in your post though :tup
Thanks! Helps me to remember them. Fogey brain and all. :lol
Something I did forget to mention though - Heaven Beside You and Over Now were the other singles from Tripod, and it was in the liner notes of the Music Bank compilation where Jerry had mentioned the possibility of God Am being a single. I wish either that or Head Creeps had been singles, as both are killer songs.
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Transatlantic is really close. But on SMPT:e I don't really like "In Held (Twas) In I" and usually skip it and on The Whirwind, I just ended up deleting "Dancing With Eternal Glory" from the playlist, it's too long and plodding and too much of a rehash of everything that came before it.
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Nick Drake comes to mind. Would I literally not change a single thing? Well, a couple of the orchestral arrangements on Bryter Layter sound pretty dated now, in contrast to the absolute timeless quality of his music in general. But that doesn't keep me from enjoying every single song across his 3 albums.
Maybe it's unfair to count an artist who recorded so little before he passed. It's the dramatic irony that an artist dies young and immortalizes his legacy in the process. Would you really want to hear a Nick Drake record from the 80's, or a Jimi Hendrix "comeback" album a la Santana's Supernatural? Makes me wonder what a teenage Pete Townshend ("I hope I die before I get old") would think of The Who's Superbowl performance a couple years ago.
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I too don't believe there's anyone that meets the "perfect" criteria, particularly among artists with a lot of albums, but the closest for me is Donald Fagen (Steely Dan and solo albums), with his weakest album being Morph the Cat.
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Came up with another band. Joy Division.
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Came up with another band. Joy Division.
Totally forgot about them. Love their whole discography. :heart
You know, I think this is the first time that we're having similar musical opinions. :lol
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Came up with another band. Joy Division.
Totally forgot about them. Love their whole discography. :heart
You know, I think this is the first time that we're having similar musical opinions. :lol
I got into them way too late. :lol If I had made my Top 50 a little later, both Unknown Pleasures and Closer probably would've stood some chance of making it.
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Alter Bridge, Animals As Leaders, Badlands, Jason Becker, Coheed and Cambria, Tremonti, System of a Down, Andy McKee... Can't think of many more.
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Sweet, another System of a Down fanboy! What's your favourite of their albums?
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Hmmm... I don't think there's any band I would describe as having all 'perfect' albums. There are several bands I enjoy every album from, but to say that they've done no wrong? I don't know about that.
Sweet, another System of a Down fanboy! What's your favourite of their albums?
I know it wasn't addressed to me, but nothing beats Toxicity for me. After that the rankings get a lot tougher (four-way tie for second place?), but Toxicity is definitely my favorite.
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Sweet, another System of a Down fanboy! What's your favourite of their albums?
My favorites are actually their self titled album and STA.
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SOAD are awesome! :metal The song Toxicity is one of my all time favorite songs. Those melodies are just filled with so much nostalgia... It's just such a unique little piece. And the drumming is phenomenal.
Love the Mez / Hyp combo as well and I really hope they're gonna record another album!
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Dream Theater, even their clunkers are still enjoyable.
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I love SoaD too, but there are a couple songs I feel are just satisfactory. But they come really close to doing no wrong and I love all their albums.
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Dream Theater, even their clunkers are still enjoyable.
Agreed.
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I would say System of a Down, however, I don't like how they sound live. That detracts from perfection.
As a fanboy, I have to ask: what don't you like about their live performances? When I saw them, it was far and away the best concert that I ever witnessed.
When I saw them live Serj didn't have that great of a performance. He just wasn't nearly on par with what I expected. Afterwards I watched a few videos of him live, and I have to say that it seems like it's fairly common.
I love every album they have ever made, except for a couple songs on their Self-Titled and Mesmerize. Overall, they're easily a top five band in my book. They have been since I was in the 5th/6th grade when I heard Toxicity (Still absolutely one of my favorite songs) for the first time. I love the band, I love their lyrics, and I love the personality of the members. However, they're just slightly under perfect.
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Hmmm... I don't think there's any band I would describe as having all 'perfect' albums. There are several bands I enjoy every album from, but to say that they've done no wrong? I don't know about that.
Sweet, another System of a Down fanboy! What's your favourite of their albums?
I know it wasn't addressed to me, but nothing beats Toxicity for me. After that the rankings get a lot tougher (four-way tie for second place?), but Toxicity is definitely my favorite.
Count me into the SOAD fangirling... they're without doubt the best band I've ever seen live, they have such energy, I saw them at Leeds Festival 2003 and in Manchester 2005 ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7t1LfN4Q_8 just found that, not great quality but so strange to think I was there seven years ago!). My favourite of their albums would have to be Toxicity but I find them really solid overall, I loved Mezmerize/Hypnotize and thought STA had some amazing songs on (Roulette <3 ). I don't listen to them on a weekly basis anymore but I spent my teenage years hammering their CDs and still really enjoy them when I put them on. I go through little SOAD phases every year or two where I'll listen to nothing but them for several weeks...
In fact they're probably the closest to 'perfect' for me in terms of output. A few average songs but across the board they're utterly consistently incredile.
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After listening to the new Riverside I had to bump this because they deserve to be mentioned here. Seriously amazing band, both SLS and ADHD would probably make my Top 50 now. :heart
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King Crimson is the only true answer.
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Mastodon for me - they keep getting better as well. I think the next album will be something really special like Crack The Skye was.
And Green Day have yet to release ( in my opinion ) a truly "bad" album. Like an out and out - universally panned stinker, which after
11 albums is really something. Even The Foxboro album was great.
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Dream Theater, even their clunkers are still enjoyable.
I have yet to hear WDADU - but even Systematic Chaos ( my least favourite ) is worth listening to.
and RE : System Of A Down. - In my view - Every album they put out was slightly worse than the previous one.
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I'd give all ten Spock's Beard albums at least a 4 out of 5 score, but there are some songs I don't like, so they're out. Transatlantic is close, but I don't like In Held (Twas) In I much.
Gentle Giant didn't have any bad songs until The Missing Piece, so that's eight albums in a row of strong material.
Actually, I thought of an example. Proto-Kaw, a sort of Kansas spin-off band. Three albums without a dud song, IMO, plus an archival release of great demos. I'm a Kerry Livgren fanboy. But I can't think of any "perfect" bands with more than four albums.
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Scar Symmetry. 5 Amazing albums (with Holographic Universe being my all time favorite album)
I used to hate Dark Matter Dimensions but after 2 years I think I'm finally starting to love it as much if not more than some of their other work.
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I'd give all ten Spock's Beard albums at least a 4 out of 5 score, but there are some songs I don't like, so they're out. Transatlantic is close, but I don't like In Held (Twas) In I much.
Gentle Giant didn't have any bad songs until The Missing Piece, so that's eight albums in a row of strong material.
Actually, I thought of an example. Proto-Kaw, a sort of Kansas spin-off band. Three albums without a dud song, IMO, plus an archival release of great demos. I'm a Kerry Livgren fanboy. But I can't think of any "perfect" bands with more than four albums.
Discounting "In Held ('Twas) In I", would TA be a band that has done no wrong? I mean, it's a COVER, so really, it's not original material. If you count that song, you'd also have to count all the other covers on their other albums as well.
-Marc.
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Why does everybody hate In Held (Twas) In I? I think it's pretty great.
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Because they're crazies.
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Dream Theater, even their clunkers are still enjoyable.
I have yet to hear WDADU - but even Systematic Chaos ( my least favourite ) is worth listening to.
and RE : System Of A Down. - In my view - Every album they put out was slightly worse than the previous one.
I wouldn't be surprised if you disagreed with me since I think the exact opposite of SOAD, but WDADU is so unimaginably superior to SC; in every way. They're a band I'd consider to be perfect, but in the end I don't think I'd consider them such. Friggin' opinions...
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I'd give all ten Spock's Beard albums at least a 4 out of 5 score, but there are some songs I don't like, so they're out. Transatlantic is close, but I don't like In Held (Twas) In I much.
Gentle Giant didn't have any bad songs until The Missing Piece, so that's eight albums in a row of strong material.
Actually, I thought of an example. Proto-Kaw, a sort of Kansas spin-off band. Three albums without a dud song, IMO, plus an archival release of great demos. I'm a Kerry Livgren fanboy. But I can't think of any "perfect" bands with more than four albums.
Discounting "In Held ('Twas) In I", would TA be a band that has done no wrong? I mean, it's a COVER, so really, it's not original material. If you count that song, you'd also have to count all the other covers on their other albums as well.
-Marc.
Covers count towards a band's output when they're on an actual album. It's not a bonus or special/limited edition track like their other covers.
I don't hate In Held, but it has some dubious vocals from everybody but Neal and I would have preferred an original song in its place.
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Shpongle has never put out anything bad. Over a decade, 4 studio albums, plus some other assorted tracks.
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Got some to add on here:
Michael Kelsey
Antoine Dufour
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Antoine Dufour is a genius and I love him. Such beautiful music. I support his addition. :tup
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Wow didn't think anyone would know who he is, check out Michael Kelsey if you like Antoine, specifically "Submerged"
I got to see Antoine a few years ago at this house in Florida, played to about 20 people, was awesome.
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M83. With each album, Anthony Gonzalez has had a successful formula and then deconstructed the formula and came back with a new formula on the following album. And he's succeeded each time. Most of the albums are different genres and all of them are at least good.
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Antoine Dufour is a genius and I love him. Such beautiful music. I support his addition. :tup
Antoine Dufour is a genius and I love him. Such beautiful music. I support his addition. :tup
Good call! :tup :tup :tup
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My post in the celeb crush thread reminded me: Slowdive.
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My post in the celeb crush thread reminded me: Slowdive.
I haven't heard the EPs, but I don't like Pygmalion too much. The atmosphere is nice, but the songs themselves are way too repetitive. Too bad because I love the first 2 albums...
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Not really but Meshuggah and Opeth come close to me. Every album they made is interesting to some degree!
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Not sure if I posted here before, but anyways:
*Oceansize
*Steven Wilson (solo career)
*Agalloch
*Mr. Bungle
*Godspeed You! Black Emperor
*Mew
*The Dear Hunter
*The Smashing Pumpkins
*The Tallest Man on Earth
There are a few that comes close, Porcupine Tree and Anathema for example, but I don't really care for either band's debut album (apart from a few songs). Opeth has a few songs from the earlier days that don't do that much for me, there are several bands that comes pretty close actually, I just narrowed it down a bit.