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Dream Theater => Dream Theater => Topic started by: Jaffa on June 22, 2012, 01:28:55 AM
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I'm sure this has been done before, probably a billion times. But as far as I am aware, it hasn't been done lately, and I'm curious.
What is your favorite part (/track/movement) of the song?
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Please give me an "all of dems!" option. :p You're asking me to choose my favourite child (and there aren't even any redheads to make the choice easier). I have never even listened to it as anything but one song.
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About To Crash, very closely followed by Solitary Shell.
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the :metal of The Test gets me fired up like nothing else
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Please give me an "all of dems!" option. :p You're asking me to choose my favourite child (and there aren't even any redheads to make the choice easier). I have never even listened to it as anything but one song.
:tup
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Goodnight Kiss, then About To Crash. Least favourite, Solitary Shell.
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Oh my god such a hard decision
I settled on About to Crash (reprise).
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Please give me an "all of dems!" option. :p You're asking me to choose my favourite child (and there aren't even any redheads to make the choice easier). I have never even listened to it as anything but one song.
:tup
Thank you sir! :tup I was only half serious, but it's nice to not have to disappoint all of my other children.
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Least favourite, Solitary Shell.
This I did not expect to see. :lol
Thank you sir! :tup I was only half serious, but it's nice to not have to disappoint all of my other children.
You're right, though, it is a valid option and it should be there.
For the record, I was honestly originally going to type a ninth poll option: "'The whole song' AKA the BlobVanDam option". I left it out only because I thought it might be rude to single you out.
the :metal of The Test gets me fired up like nothing else
That's awesome to hear! That track doesn't get nearly enough praise.
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Losing Time and Goodnight Kiss. Voted for Losing Time.
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Solitary Shell :heart
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Goodnight Kiss. :heart
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I actually went with War inside my head. I like all of them, though.
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Goodnight Kiss + Solitary Shell. I went with the latter,
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Oh my god such a hard decision
I settled on About to Crash (reprise).
This is the correct answer.
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Hard to choose, but I went with About to Crash. That guitar solo is killer. <3
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Solitary Shell. Ranked 3rd of all DT songs in and of itself.
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Impossible to chose, but if you want only one answer than it has to be The Test That Stumped Them All, closely followed by the rest. The only one I could do without is the overture. It makes sense in the great scheme of things but as a single track I find it rather meh.
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Goodnight Kiss, then About To Crash. Least favourite, Solitary Shell.
Interesting, I skip Goodnight Kiss every single time. Solitary Shell is my favorite.
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About to Crash and its reprise are my favorite movements with Solitary Shell a close second. At the same time, I don't like splitting them up.
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Solitary Shell :heart
No contest. The mix of beautiful melodies, touching lyrics and fantastic prog instrumental is just way too good.
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Grand Finale.
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I love all of it, but if I had to winnow it down, I'd say the part that grabs me and gets me pumped most often is the About to Crash reprise. That opening riff always puts a smile on my face. After that, my favorites are Solitary Shell and Goodnight Kiss. They were both a surprise because they went in a directions I didn't expect.
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I love all of it, but if I had to winnow it down, I'd say the part that grabs me and gets me pumped most often is the About to Crash reprise. That opening riff always puts a smile on my face. After that, my favorites are Solitary Shell and Goodnight Kiss. They were both a surprise because they went in a directions I didn't expect.
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Oh hell.... sorry for the double post. :facepalm:
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I love all of it, but if I had to winnow it down, I'd say the part that grabs me and gets me pumped most often is the About to Crash reprise. That opening riff always puts a smile on my face.
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Goodnight Kiss is the worst part for me though. It's what drags the whole thing down. I know it's an intense 40 minutes and they needed a little break in the middle of it. I just didn't think Goodnight Kiss was that good... It was an Only Okay Night Kiss.
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Losing Time and Goodnight Kiss. Voted for Losing Time.
This exactly! Still best as one piece
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Oh hell.... sorry for the double post. :facepalm:
And in the process of apologizing, triple post :P
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if i had to choose it would probably be about to crash (reprise). it such a nice consolidated dose of pure DT to me
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Goodnight Kiss.
Also, I was listening to Wagner earlier and noticed how much he obviously influenced Jordan on the overture of this song.
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About To Crash, The Test That Stumped Them All, Solitary Shell
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Another thing I don't like about Goodnight Kiss is the lyrics. I mean, overall they're nice, and the sentiment is nice. But good god, I DO NOT WANT to hear James LaBrie sing, "I'm just a poor girl".
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About To Crash (Reprise)
That's just a killer riff.
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Voted for Solitary Shell before I saw the option for all of them.
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My favorite part of the opus is that by the end of it I'm ready to play it again!
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Wow I'm the only one who thinks Overture is the best part! It contains bits from all the movements and is pretty kickass. Close second is The Test followed by Solitary Shell.
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Losing Time/Grand Finale
My favorite moment in music, ever.
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Yeah I chose Losing Time/Grand Finale.
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Goodnight Kiss. :heart
I just love it, its something special about it. From the soft beginning to the build up in the end.
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Solsbur---I mean Solitary Shell. :smiley:
I really enjoy that track and grew to like it more after seeing it live
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Another thing I don't like about Goodnight Kiss is the lyrics. I mean, overall they're nice, and the sentiment is nice. But good god, I DO NOT WANT to hear James LaBrie sing, "I'm just a poor girl".
Dude, this.
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Another thing I don't like about Goodnight Kiss is the lyrics. I mean, overall they're nice, and the sentiment is nice. But good god, I DO NOT WANT to hear James LaBrie sing, "I'm just a poor girl".
Dude, this.
I actually think that he pulls it off quite well. Sure, a poor boy might have been less laughable, but the feeling of anguish is present in the song in such a powerful way. Plus, that solo is one of the perfect examples that Petrucci doesn't have to shred to deliver a good solo.
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Another thing I don't like about Goodnight Kiss is the lyrics. I mean, overall they're nice, and the sentiment is nice. But good god, I DO NOT WANT to hear James LaBrie sing, "I'm just a poor girl".
Dude, this.
I don't see what is wrong with it.
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Another thing I don't like about Goodnight Kiss is the lyrics. I mean, overall they're nice, and the sentiment is nice. But good god, I DO NOT WANT to hear James LaBrie sing, "I'm just a poor girl".
Dude, this.
I don't see what is wrong with it.
Yeah. Between SFAM and SDOIT, JLB sings lyrics which imply he's a female more than a few times, and I don't really see a problem with it.
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Oh my god such a hard decision
I settled on About to Crash (reprise).
Dat opening
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I actually think that he pulls it off quite well. Sure, a poor boy might have been less laughable, but the feeling of anguish is present in the song in such a powerful way. Plus, that solo is one of the perfect examples that Petrucci doesn't have to shred to deliver a good solo.
I just don't think the lyrics should've went into first person at all for that part. I'm sure JP could've worded it differently. I mean, heck, the FIRST time he says, "You're" so even if he's talking about a different character in the second verse, he could've said like, "She" or something.
I mean, being a Dream Theater fan, I can let it go. But it's definitely not a lyrics that I'd be too proud to just show other people, because I just know that they'd be like, "Why did that guy just said that he's a girl?"
Yeah. Between SFAM and SDOIT, JLB sings lyrics which imply he's a female more than a few times, and I don't really see a problem with it.
There's a difference between implying it on behalf of a character like, "He always had my heart, he needs to know..."
And outright saying, "I'm just a poor girl." And there's no other part of SDOIT where he sings on behalf of a female character. About To Crash and Losing Time are both done in third person.
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There's a difference between implying it on behalf of a character like, "He always had my heart, he needs to know..."
And outright saying, "I'm just a poor girl." And there's no other part of SDOIT where he sings on behalf of a female character. About To Crash and Losing Time are both done in third person.
About to Crash (reprise) is done in first person, from the point of view of the same girl as About to Crash.
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About to Crash (reprise) is done in first person, from the point of view of the same girl as About to Crash.
Okay, you're right, but in that case, the lyrics never imply that it is a girl. The only way we know is from hearing About To Crash and knowing that the story is about a girl.
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About to Crash (reprise) is done in first person, from the point of view of the same girl as About to Crash.
Okay, you're right, but in that case, the lyrics never imply that it is a girl. The only way we know is from hearing About To Crash and knowing that the story is about a girl.
It doesn't matter if ATCR doesn't imply it, because ATC does, which is directly related. Your statement is kind of contradictory and stretching to win an argument.
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Wow I'm the only one who thinks Overture is the best part! It contains bits from all the movements and is pretty kickass.
You would be wrong! Love Overture, I can just play it and be happy.
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It doesn't matter if ATCR doesn't imply it, because ATC does, which is directly related. Your statement is kind of contradictory and stretching to win an argument.
I'm not stretching anything. All I'm saying is that hearing LaBrie say, "I'm just a poor girl" is really awkward. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with singing on behalf of a female character, all I'm saying is that hearing that combination of words coming out of his mouth is awkward.
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It doesn't matter if ATCR doesn't imply it, because ATC does, which is directly related. Your statement is kind of contradictory and stretching to win an argument.
I'm not stretching anything. All I'm saying is that hearing LaBrie say, "I'm just a poor girl" is really awkward. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with singing on behalf of a female character, all I'm saying is that hearing that combination of words coming out of his mouth is awkward.
I wasn't talking about that, I was talking about how you said ATCR doesn't imply it's a girl in the lyrics. In which case you're technically right. I read your post wrong, I thought you said that the first ATC doesn't imply it either, lol
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I wasn't talking about that, I was talking about how you said ATCR doesn't imply it's a girl in the lyrics. In which case you're technically right. I read your post wrong, I thought you said that the first ATC doesn't imply it either, lol
Ah, okay. Yeah, no, I was just saying that you need to listen to ATC in order to understand that it is a girl in ATCR, otherwise, the context could apply to anyone. I mean, I'm sure that even a guy with bi-polar disorder would get to a point where all he'd want to do is cry. Nothing wrong with that.
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It honestly baffles me a little bit that anyone could be that bothered by a guy calling himself a girl.
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It honestly baffles me a little bit that anyone could be that bothered by a guy calling himself a girl.
I thought it would jaffle you, not baffle.
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Now maybe if James was interviewed, and he stated that he was a girl, I'd question.
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It honestly baffles me a little bit that anyone could be that bothered by a guy calling himself a girl.
Why? I've heard plenty of people on this forum talk about how certain lyrics just sound embarrassing. "I'm just a poor girl" is worse than anything on Constant Motion, The Shattered Fortress or The Ministry Of Lost Souls. And I hear many people call those lyrics cringe worthy (unjustly so).
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Another thing I don't like about Goodnight Kiss is the lyrics. I mean, overall they're nice, and the sentiment is nice. But good god, I DO NOT WANT to hear James LaBrie sing, "I'm just a poor girl".
Dude, this.
I don't see what is wrong with it.
Yeah. Between SFAM and SDOIT, JLB sings lyrics which imply he's a female more than a few times, and I don't really see a problem with it.
You aren't looking at the song as a part of a story. JLB is singing from the point of view of a female character. To me, the lyrics in Goodnight Kiss are well written and well executed. You just have to pay attention to the overall story.
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You aren't looking at the song as a part of a story. JLB is singing from the point of view of a female character. To me, the lyrics in Goodnight Kiss are well written and well executed. You just have to pay attention to the overall story.
That's fine. But sometimes I just want to listen to some awesome music and not sit there and be immersed in the story. And like I said, when I listen to DT with my friends who aren't familiar with 6 Degrees, I don't want to be like, "Okay, okay, now pay attention to this next part, it's important to the context of the story!"
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Listening to DT with friends who aren't already familiar with DT isn't the easiest task you can approach, and lyrics are usually the least of my problems - it's more like "gosh I have a headache" / "why did they do that" / "is that song still on" and similar.
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Well, my friends are unique, I guess. They enjoy listening to DT, while don't really do it outside of my presence. But they're still the types of people that'd say, "Did he just say he was a girl? Dude, that's gay!"
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"Did he just say he was a girl? Dude, that's gay!"
You should tell your friends culturally imposed gender roles are stupid for the most part, and the proof for that is the fact that they're changing all the time. :smiley: and besides, when James says "I wish I weren't so fucked" on AIA, it's not in the literal sense either :rollin As well as portraying Victoria on Scenes etc.
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You should tell your friends culturally imposed gender roles are stupid for the most part, and the proof for that is the fact that they're changing all the time.
Yeah, but I could also say that to a brick wall, and it would have the same effect.
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It honestly baffles me a little bit that anyone could be that bothered by a guy calling himself a girl.
I thought it would jaffle you, not baffle.
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I honestly love this. :heart
Why? I've heard plenty of people on this forum talk about how certain lyrics just sound embarrassing. "I'm just a poor girl" is worse than anything on Constant Motion, The Shattered Fortress or The Ministry Of Lost Souls. And I hear many people call those lyrics cringe worthy (unjustly so).
In my experience, most people who complain about lyrics complain about either how they are sung or how they are written. If you didn't like JLB's voice for that part, I would understand. I mean, I wouldn't agree, but I wouldn't be baffled. If you didn't like the way the lyric was written, you thought it sounded forced or awkward or something, I would understand. But as far as I can tell you have no problem with the line except that it's a male singing it. I find that to be a rather odd objection to have with a song.
Don't get me wrong, you're entitled to feel that way. I just find it baffling.
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I just think that lyric is awkward and embarrassing. But even if it wasn't, Goodnight Kiss would still be my least favorite part of Six Degrees. Even if they needed to slow it down a little, it could've been something along the lines of Another World or even Take Away My Pain. Goodnight Kiss slows it down to pretty much a drag.
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You should tell your friends culturally imposed gender roles are stupid for the most part, and the proof for that is the fact that they're changing all the time.
Yeah, but I could also say that to a brick wall, and it would have the same effect.
I guess you could hang out with people who aren't homophobic.
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I guess you could hang out with people who aren't homophobic.
They're not homophobic. They're just crude. Still good people. And there is another option. I won't play Goodnight Kiss for them and avoid them that drag of a segment.
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Well I disagree. I love Goodnight Kiss. Probably my favorite part of the suite after the About to Crashes and Solitary Shell. I think it's beautiful, and I think it's wonderful even if it "slows it to a drag". Slowness isn't necessarily bad.
"I'm just a poor girl" isn't the best or cleverest lyric, but it makes sense in the context of the song, as the first time you hear it it's "you're just a poor girl". The contrast is nice and summarizes the conflict at hand in a pretty elegant way. Also, the upbeat solo section kicks numerous asses.
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Goodnight Kiss probably is my least favorite segment of the song, but I still think it's good.
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Goodnight Kiss probably is my least favorite segment of the song, but I still think it's good.
I think it's good in that Anna Lee kind of way. But I think it drags the whole thing down. I don't just mean in pace, but if it wasn't for Goodnight Kiss, or if it had just a slightly more energetic rhythm, like I said, even something like Take Away My Pain, then I'd enjoy it a lot better and regard the Six Degrees suite a lot higher.
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Losing Time/Grand Finale
Solitary Shell
Goodnight Kiss
About to Crash (Reprise)
About to Crash
Overture
War Inside My Head
The Test That Stumped Them All
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Alright.
About To Crash Reprise
Losing Time/Grand Finale
Solitary Shell
War Inside My Head
About To Crash
Overture
The Test That Stumped Them All
Goodnight Kiss
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Tough for me.
Solitary Shell
About to Crash
The Test That Stumped Them All
Losing Time/Grand Finale
About to Crash (Reprise)
Overture
War Inside My Head
Goodnight Kiss
Something like that.
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The part that signals that it is over
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the gong.
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OKAY GUIZE FINE I'LL DO MINE LOL
*Oh my god I have to change*
About to Crash Reprise
Solitary Shell
About to Crash
Goodnight Kiss
*Yeah that's pretty cool I guess *
Losing Time/Grand Finale
War Inside My Head
*Yeah okay fine*
Overture
*Gross, or: SDOIT is a fantastic song in spite of this movement*
The Test That Stumped Them All
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Solitary Shell
About to Crash Reprise
About to Crash
Losing Time/Finale
Test that Stumped them All
War Inside my Head
Overture
Goodnight Kiss
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War Inside My Head - short but sweet.
My full ranking:
War
LT/GF
Shell
ATC Reprise
ATC
Test
Kiss
Overture
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*Gross, or: SDOIT is a fantastic song in spite of this movement*
The Test That Stumped Them All
Fuck yeah, I'm not the only one that hates it :coolio
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What's up with DTF nowadays? Everyone's ranking everything.
Here goes:
Goodnight Kiss
The Test That Stumped Them All
Solitary Shell
About to Crash
About to Crash (Reprise)
War Inside My Head
Losing Time
Overture
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Goodnight Kiss
That guitar solo is everything that is right with the universe and more.
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1. Losing Time / Grand Finale
2. Goodnight Kiss
3. War Inside My Head
4. About to Crash
5. About to Crash (Reprise)
6. Solitary Shell
7. The Test That Stumped Them All
(It's not fair to put Overture in the rankings)
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(It's not fair to put Overture in the rankings)
Why's that?
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I'd have to say that Solitary Shell is my favorite part of SDoIT. The keyboard melody that Jordan plays before each verse... It just really brings me back to my childhood. Every time I hear it, I feel like a little kid back at my grandmas house, watching Spongebob and playing superheroes with my cousins :laugh:
Not to mention the absolutely BEAUTIFUL piano solo towards the end of the track. This is one of my favorite DT songs of all time. :tup
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I'll go with About to Crash reprise.... what an emotionally powerful piece!! (Especially the Score version w/ Orch.) Sends shivers down my spine just thinking about it.
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War Inside My Head - short but sweet.
I think War Inside My Head is very underrated. I just wish there was a "single" version of it so that it wasn't just wedged between two other songs, having no proper beginning and no proper ending.
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War Inside My Head - short but sweet.
I think War Inside My Head is very underrated. I just wish there was a "single" version of it so that it wasn't just wedged between two other songs, having no proper beginning and no proper ending.
Hearing voices from miles away
Saying things never said
Seeing shadows in the light of the day
Waging a war inside my head
Feeling strangers staring my way
Reading minds never read
Tasting danger with each word I say
Waging a war inside my...
How is this not everyone's favorite part?
Now I always listen to SDOIT as one whole 45 minute thingy, so I'm not dissing any of the other parts. In fact I love them all, just like everyone says. But this is the part that makes you go Fuck Yeah. The whole build up from the end of About to Crash (Much to her advantage...) through the beginning of Test That Stumped Them All is perfection to the note.
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Hearing voices from miles away
Saying things never said
Seeing shadows in the light of the day
Waging a war inside my head
Feeling strangers staring my way
Reading minds never read
Tasting danger with each word I say
Waging a war inside my...
How is this not everyone's favorite part?
Now I always listen to SDOIT as one whole 45 minute thingy, so I'm not dissing any of the other parts. In fact I love them all, just like everyone says. But this is the part that makes you go Fuck Yeah. The whole build up from the end of About to Crash (Much to her advantage...) through the beginning of Test That Stumped Them All is perfection to the note.
Yes, at its core, Six Degrees should be listened to all the way through. But sometimes I either don't have the time to do that, or I just don't feel like doing that. And in those cases, there are certain parts of Six Degrees that you can listen to by themselves. Like Solitary Shell or Test That Stumped Them All are both available as a "Single Edit" from the greatest hit compilation. And even About To Crash reprise has a concrete beginning that you can start with and just listen all the way to the end.
But that's not the case with War Inside My Head, which basically means that on my playlist, it's never, ever going to get quite as many listens as the other ones I mentioned. Which is a damn shame.
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About to Crash. It's magical. But Goodnight Kiss has JP's best solo.
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That 2nd verse :heart
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one whole 45 minute thingy
We have a word for this: "song".
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Solitary shell
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The part that signals that it is over
Fully agree. This CD gets very little rotation in my playlist. But I am glad i saw the first ever live performance of it. James badly muffed the second verse in About to Crash, but the band kept it together nicely.
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one whole 45 minute thingy
We have a word for this: "song".
is this called hazing a new guy? :)
you don't just call every musical composition a song. for example, classical instrumental pieces can be songs, or preludes, etudes, intermezzos, sonatas, concertos, tone poems, movements, symphonies, etc.
SDOIT is not a song. it's a thing.
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Musical symmantics arguements never get anywhere. Plus, the only subject worse than what constitutes a song is what constitutes a concept album.
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inb4 discussion on whether 6DOIT is a concept album
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About To Crash (Reprise)
That's just a killer riff.
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one whole 45 minute thingy
We have a word for this: "song".
is this called hazing a new guy? :)
you don't just call every musical composition a song. for example, classical instrumental pieces can be songs, or preludes, etudes, intermezzos, sonatas, concertos, tone poems, movements, symphonies, etc.
SDOIT is not a song. it's a thing.
No, dude, it's a song. That's what the band says it is. And thanks for the vocab lesson, but I, like many on this board, have had training in music theory.
Musical symmantics arguements never get anywhere. Plus, the only subject worse than what constitutes a song is what constitutes a concept album.
I feel like this argument might get somewhere. I mean, this guy is trying to convince me that the proper categorization for SDOIT is not "song" but "thing". :lol
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I'm going to play some devil's advocate her.
That's what the band says it is.
An arguement could be made that the band doesn't have the final say in it's categorization. Philip Glass doesn't call his music minimalist, but obviously the rest of world says otherwise. That's just one example of the common truth that users own more of a name than the creators.
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"Minimalist" is a genre of music, not a musical form. When it comes to form, you can trust the composer to accurately categorize his own works, be they symphonies, concertos, songs, etc.
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one whole 45 minute thingy
We have a word for this: "song".
is this called hazing a new guy? :)
you don't just call every musical composition a song. for example, classical instrumental pieces can be songs, or preludes, etudes, intermezzos, sonatas, concertos, tone poems, movements, symphonies, etc.
SDOIT is not a song. it's a thing.
No, dude, it's a song. That's what the band says it is. And thanks for the vocab lesson, but I, like many on this board, have had training in music theory.
Musical symmantics arguements never get anywhere. Plus, the only subject worse than what constitutes a song is what constitutes a concept album.
I feel like this argument might get somewhere. I mean, this guy is trying to convince me that the proper categorization for SDOIT is not "song" but "thing". :lol
So I'm learning about the personalities on the forum as I go along. Apparently theseoafs is the one with the bad attitude who is also a bit arrogant, but at the same time doesn't understand when people are tryring to be a bit facetious and bring some levity.
I would say I was being the opposite of pedantic. Really, you had to come in and set me straight when I used the word "thingy"? As if you thought I needed to be informed?
Come on, now. I think, given what forum we're on, we should all give each other the benefit of the doubt when it comes to our musical knowledge. I replied as such because you didn't accord that benefit to me, which since I'm new is fine, but I'm letting you know you should.
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People like to "correct" people on the internet. We're usually a good group of people here; don't worry about it, butthead. :laugh:
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So I'm learning about the personalities on the forum as I go along. Apparently theseoafs is the one with the bad attitude who is also a bit arrogant, but at the same time doesn't understand when people are tryring to be a bit facetious and bring some levity.
I would say I was being the opposite of pedantic. Really, you had to come in and set me straight when I used the word "thingy"? As if you thought I needed to be informed?
Come on, now. I think, given what forum we're on, we should all give each other the benefit of the doubt when it comes to our musical knowledge. I replied as such because you didn't accord that benefit to me, which since I'm new is fine, but I'm letting you know you should.
Griff -- can I call you Griff? -- Griff, I was joking around. My writing style is a tad more confrontational, blunt, or rough than most DTFers', but I'm almost always acting in good humor.
Welcome to the forum by the way.
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Yeah, I'll second the fact that Mr. Seoafs is a cool cat. He can rub you the wrong way at first, but after you've been around a bit and get used to his style, you can't help but like 'im.
Six Degress is a song. But it gets confusing for a number of reasons. First off, it's over 40 minutes long. There aren't a lot of songs you can say that about. Second, each of the movements is about the length and structure of a more traditional song. And to compound the issue, the band has played individual movements as standalone songs in concerts, and has created edits of two of them so they can be played as individual songs. So, yeah, there are a lot of good reasons to not think of it as a single song composed of many movements, even though it is. At the end of the day, if someone subjectively wants to consider it a suite or a a group of songs, or something else, it doesn't really matter. And I don't think anyone in the band really cares either. I think they're just happy that it is a piece of music they are proud of, that a lot of fans like, and that fans talk about.
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Wait... Seoafs? Your user name is supposed to be "The Seoafs"? I've been reading it as "These oafs." :rollin
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Wait... Seoafs? Your user name is supposed to be "The Seoafs"? I've been reading it as "These oafs." :rollin
You've been reading it right. It's not the seoafs.
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Then why did Bosk call him "Mr. Seoafs"?
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Cuz the boss is wrong.
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About to Crash (reprise)
Solitary Shell
Goodnight Kiss
About to Crash
War Inside My Head/Test That Stumped Them All
Losing Time(grand finale)
Overture
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Then why did Bosk call him "Mr. Seoafs"?
Inside [forum] joke.
Beware the seoafs! BEWARE! :dangerwillrobinson:
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I feel so left out now. :'(
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On a somewhat more on topic note, Six Degrees is my favorite song, but I got kinda burned out on it and haven't spun it much for quite awhile. Thanks to this thread, I'm listening to it right now and loving it.
As for ranking the movements, if we're doing that now:
1. War Inside My Head - I can't say I consider it the "best" movement, but I probably do consider it my favorite. And I actually like that it's fairly short. It's metal, and leaves me wanting more.
2. Losing Time/Grand Finale - I remember the first time the lyrics in this movement really clicked and tied up all the random parts of this song, and I realized the subtle genius of what the song is actualy about. Just epic. Still gives me chills to this day.
3. ATC (reprise) - Bringing back the original ATC, both in lyrics and music, really makes this monster of a song start to feel somewhat unified. Plus, great intro riff.
4. ATC - Yeah. Just really good.
5. The Test That Stumped Them All - :2metal:
6. Solitary Shell - Who woulda thought that DT could to Green Day better than Green Day? Really good.
7. Goodnight Kiss - My least favorite movement. It has some great moments, but I agree with TheGreatPretender that it feels like it kills the momentum of the song. Still, not a bad movement by any means, and the guitar solo is indeed epic.
8. Overture - Not bad. But as someone else said, it's almost not really even fair to include it in a ranking. It's an overture. It does its job. End of story.
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I almost never listen to the song. To be honest I have no idea why. I have 0 complaints about either About to Crashes (except the Jackie one, she sucks), or War Inside my Head or any of them beyond Losing time and Overture. My only complaint about losing time is that the end of it is rather...cliche and DT has essentially done that exact same type of section 3-4 times now. As far as Overture goes, it's not that it's bad....it's that it's way too long. And if I wanted to listen to Wagner, I'd listen to Wagner.
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Thanks to this thread, I'm listening to it right now and loving it.
:tup
Though I'm not sure I can agree with Solitary shell being Green Day-esque.
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The Test That Stumped Them All. Solitary Shell is also great.
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I have a lot of favorite parts but Overture is what breathes life into the rest of the song and it's brilliantly written. Every time I listen, it doesn't seem like 42 mins long. Too many favorite parts to mention.
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I listened to the whole song again, and I think that I have found new appreciation of the Overture. It's still the weakest part of the song, but it's pretty good, imho.
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I just listened to the concept album again, and I think it's a wonderful collection of songs. :tup
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The Test That Stumped Them All
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Six Degrees is fucking amazing. The album and the song.
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I listened to the whole song again, and I think that I have found new appreciation of the Overture. It's still the weakest part of the song, but it's pretty good, imho.
Funny story, but 100% true. For a long time I didn't listen to SDOIT disc 2, because every time I started, I would hear the overture, and it sounded like some bad version of a broadway overture done on a synth, and I was like "what is this stupid shit? Dream Theater has lost their way..." and turn it off. It wasn't until after Octavarium came out that I started actually listening to it consistently.
Now that composition/collection of songs/megasong is the one disc I would take with me to a dessert island over all others to listen to for the rest of eternity.
Moral of the story: the overture is the least-good part of the whole thing, and you need to get past the cheesy synth parts.
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I treat the entire song as one, so I hate choosing between the eight movements. But, if I had to, it would be Solitary Shell being my favorite. Mostly for the instrumental at the end.
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the part when its over
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Solitary Shell
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Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence (because it's one song)
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Voted for Solitary Shell before I saw the option for all of them.