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Dream Theater => Dream Theater => Topic started by: SnakeEyes on February 11, 2012, 09:55:59 PM
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I mean, seriously? I'm not trying to be insensitive. I've been defending Whitney Houston all night on Facebook to "who cares, she was a crackhead anyway" morons.... but, what a frigging time for this to happen. Even if DT does win the Grammy - will anyone really care? We're going to be hearing about this for weeks. Ugh.
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How dare Whitney Houston die when DT's nominated for a Grammy?
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Wow, uh, REALLY?! :\ :\ :tdwn :justjen
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What the fuck.
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......really, dude?
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TOO SOON
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Wtf was this topic really needed?
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HA
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I thought she was dead for years.
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And now the cat is out of the bag. Thanks, DarkLOL.
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She's dead and moved on, that sucks for her family and fans. I'm not going to pretend to be all choked up about her death because I don't know her very well. Her music has never done anything for me and she died to her own foolish devices. A somewhat educated, wealthy/successful performer decides to destroy herself? My sympathy to her friends, family and her fans. One thing I do respect that I know of is she rose to fame without portraying herself as a sex symbol. :hefdaddy
RIP
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Seriously, people, get off your high horses. There's nothing wrong with what I said. Of course, her death is terrible. My point is that this is the second time that DT's career has been affected by another major celebrity's death and I think that sucks, too. The death sucks MORE, but it must suck for DT that this happened right before what was supposed to be a big night for them.
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And now the cat is out of the bag. Thanks, DarkLOL.
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Isn't it obvious? Portney killed Whitney Houston.
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Ok so this has nothing to do with DT and affects them in now way shape or form. Just sayin.
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Ok so this has nothing to do with DT and affects them in now way shape or form. Just sayin.
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And now the cat is out of the bag. Thanks, DarkLOL.
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Isn't it obvious? Portney killed Whitney Houston.
HOLY CRAP
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Seriously, people, get off your high horses. There's nothing wrong with what I said. Of course, her death is terrible. My point is that this is the second time that DT's career has been affected by another major celebrity's death and I think that sucks, too. The death sucks MORE, but it must suck for DT that this happened right before what was supposed to be a big night for them.
I can guarantee you, DT is sure as hell not worried about how this affects their "big night".
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Maybe it's just me, but Whitney Houston is nowhere near the same scale as Michael Jackson dying. They will probably have a moment of silence at the Grammys, and then business as usual.
Besides, how did MJ's death affect DT? I know Farah Fawcett got screwed over, but them?
rumborak
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Maybe it's just me, but Whitney Houston is nowhere near the same scale as Michael Jackson dying. They will probably have a moment of silence at the Grammys, and then business as usual.
Besides, how did MJ's death affect DT? I know Farah Fawcett got screwed over, but them?
rumborak
There actually will be a tribute performance to Whitney Houston at the Grammys today.
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Michael Jackson's death caused DT to "only" be #6 back in 2009. A lot of people said they would have charted higher, but Jackson's death caused a bit of a surge in his record sales the same week Black Clouds came out.
And, I can guarantee you that DT IS worried about their big night because IT'S ONLY THE BIGGEST NIGHT OF THEIR CAREER. I mean, seriously. I've never heard any members of DT (or anyone on this forum) talk about what big Whitney Houston fans they are, so why people are suddenly offended is a mystery.
This is a DT forum and DT is nominated for a Grammy. Sorry, but this IS a major event that DOES affect the Grammys. I apologize for if my first post seemed insensitive toward Whitney Houston - it was not meant that way.
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Michael Jackson's death caused DT to "only" be #6 back in 2009. A lot of people said they would have charted higher, but Jackson's death caused a bit of a surge in his record sales the same week Black Clouds came out.
And, I can guarantee you that DT IS worried about their big night because IT'S ONLY THE BIGGEST NIGHT OF THEIR CAREER. I mean, seriously. I've never heard any members of DT (or anyone on this forum) talk about what big Whitney Houston fans they are, so why people are suddenly offended is a mystery.
This is a DT forum and DT is nominated for a Grammy. Sorry, but this IS a major event that DOES affect the Grammys. I apologize for if my first post seemed insensitive toward Whitney Houston - it was not meant that way.
Jackson's death affected them because of the charts. How does Whitney Houston's death actually impact them at all?
Their award isn't being televised anyway. Whether they win the Grammy or not has nothing at all to do with Whitney Houston. And whether people care about DT's award also has nothing to do with Whitney Houston. People either would have cared, or wouldn't have cared, and this won't change that for anyone.
The only thing this means for DT is that as they sit at the Grammys they'll probably have to watch a short tribute video.
I'm actually not seeing the issue here. I think we're more confused than offended.
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Dunno dude, I think you're making too much out of this. An artist who many already figured dead died now. That tribute performance will be that, they're not gonna make this a Whitney Houston Grammy Award.
Besides, in all likelihood DT's "big moment" will be those 5 seconds of the song they play so that not everybody in audience asks "what the fuck is a Cream Theater?"
rumborak
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I don't get how it affects the Grammy's but I find it funny that when a big event happens in DT-World, a few days before an important music figure dies
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Never mind, forget I said anything.
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I don't get how it affects the Grammy's but I find it funny that when a big event happens in DT-World, a few days before an important music figure dies
I think that's the point of the thread.
I guess DT may not be able to have any more mainstream success, because people have to die. That explains a lot, actually...
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I don't get how it affects the Grammy's but I find it funny that when a big event happens in DT-World, a few days before an important music figure dies
I think that's the point of the thread.
The OP doesn't "find it funny", though. The OP is upset about it.
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I guess DT may not be able to have any more mainstream success, because people have to die. That explains a lot, actually...
LOL .... yeah.
And, yeah, you're right - that was kind of my point of what I was saying. Even if DT didn't end up getting the Grammy, a lot of times, the other nominees get discussed on the radio or on music shows and all that kind of stuff. I just think that Whitney Houston's death is going to steamroll everything for days or weeks. I just felt a little bad for the guys that they had to go into the Grammy's - the biggest night of the career - with this tragic event happening, just like they went into their first top 10 charting on the Billboard with Jackson dying.
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If I were in a band that got nominated for my first Grammy after 25 years of getting ignored by the mainstream and working my ass off and this happened, I'd be a little bummed out knowing everyone there will be talking about that person (an icon in pop music) and not really caring about my band.
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Michael Jackson died. A child molester gone. No biggie. Now Whitney. Sad, but junkies die. What's the surprise? May she have peace now. Doen't affect DT in the least.
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I guess I understand sorta, but really Whitney has nothing to do with the Grammy's, and I don't think DT is all that worried about attention (well maybe when they had MP).
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Michael Jackson died. A child molester gone. No biggie.
Well that's a bit....rough.....
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Saying that Whitney Houston has "nothing to do with the Grammys" is kind of ridiculous.
The 28th Grammy Awards
Album of the Year Nominated "Saving All My Love for You"
Best Pop Vocal Performance, Female Won
"You Give Good Love" Best R&B Vocal Performance, Female Nominated
Best R&B Song Nominated
The 29th Grammy Awards "Greatest Love of All" Record of the Year Nominated
The 30th Grammy Awards
Album of the Year Nominated
"Didn't We Almost Have It All" Song of the Year Nominated
"I Wanna Dance with Somebody
(Who Loves Me)"
Best Pop Vocal Performance, Female Won
"For the Love of You" Best R&B Vocal Performance, Female Nominated
The 31st Grammy Awards "One Moment in Time" Best Pop Vocal Performance, Female Nominated
There's more. Do I really need to copy and paste all of them?
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I doubt they care about the grammy's to get that hurt about it.
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Never mind, forget I said anything.
That's not cool to abandon what you said. Stand firm on your convictions as anything less is unbecoming. You'll piss people off, you'll have people agreeing with you and some in between. All of that doesn't matter as long as you stay firm in your beliefs. If someone else has an opinion that differs from yours, just be cool about it. I might not agree with you but I'm not going to be an asshole and belittle you for it (Not saying you did). That seems to be where issues start, aye?
Back on topic, I think everything has the potential to instigate change. Peoples disposition changes, instigating alternate thought that leads to something suggested verbally differently than what would have been thought or said if she didn't die, thus having the potential to change from an original route before the modifier (Whitneys death). Will DT get less attention or more attention? Who knows and no one will ever be able to tell because there will be no point of reference to compare if the Grammys were to take place without the death of Whitney Houston. Based on that logic, its a safe bet that something will change but it's not going to have any sort of negative impact for the band imo.
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That's not cool to abandon what you said. Stand firm on your convictions as anything less is unbecoming. You'll piss people off, you'll have people agreeing with you and some in between. All of that doesn't matter as long as you stay firm in your beliefs. If someone else has an opinion that differs from yours, just be cool about it. I might not agree with you but I'm not going to be an asshole and belittle you for it (Not saying you did). That seems to be where issues start, aye?
I appreciate the advice, but to be clear, I wasn't backing away from what I said, but just saying.... forget that I said it because I wasn't in the mood to defend it. If someone agreed and wanted to continue with the debate, fine, but at that point, I was done. Then, I got a surge of energy (as you could tell). But, yeah, I was more saying, "whatever, believe what you want."
Back on topic, I think everything has the potential to instigate change. Peoples disposition changes, instigating alternate thought that leads to something suggested verbally differently than what would have been thought or said if she didn't die, thus having the potential to change from an original route before the modifier (Whitneys death). Will DT get less attention or more attention? Who knows and no one will ever be able to tell because there will be no point of reference to compare if the Grammys were to take place without the death of Whitney Houston. Based on that logic, its a safe bet that something will change but it's not going to have any sort of negative impact for the band imo.
Well, I don't even mean ONLY for their popularity, but it must suck to have something like this even happen the night before. I'd be bummed out, like I said.
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I see the OP point but I don't think Michael Jackson is comparable. Is Whitney Houston is famous for anything other than that awful song from The Bodyguard? then she was famous for crack and being beat up by husband so she became a tabloid character.
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Saying that Whitney Houston has "nothing to do with the Grammys" is kind of ridiculous.
The 28th Grammy Awards
Album of the Year Nominated "Saving All My Love for You"
Best Pop Vocal Performance, Female Won
"You Give Good Love" Best R&B Vocal Performance, Female Nominated
Best R&B Song Nominated
The 29th Grammy Awards "Greatest Love of All" Record of the Year Nominated
The 30th Grammy Awards
Album of the Year Nominated
"Didn't We Almost Have It All" Song of the Year Nominated
"I Wanna Dance with Somebody
(Who Loves Me)"
Best Pop Vocal Performance, Female Won
"For the Love of You" Best R&B Vocal Performance, Female Nominated
The 31st Grammy Awards "One Moment in Time" Best Pop Vocal Performance, Female Nominated
There's more. Do I really need to copy and paste all of them?
Let me rephrase that. Her death will not affect who wins what.
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I see the OP point but I don't think Michael Jackson is comparable. Is Whitney Houston is famous for anything other than that awful song from The Bodyguard? then she was famous for crack and being beat up by husband so she became a tabloid character.
So, what did Michael Jackson get famous for other than his singing? (Don't tell me that he didn't become a tabloid character...)
IMHO Whitneys voice > Michaels voice. Check her back catalogue.
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In the Music World Whitneys Death IS MASSIVE ..No Getting away from it.
Will it affect thr Grammys..Sure as hell it will
BUT..Awards for films, Music.Books, Best Painting..who gives a Shit..If I like summat, I Like it, If it wins an award..who cares honestly.
Its not like DT pick up a grammy and suddenly everyone thinks their a kick ass band..They are still only a Kick Ass band to us...the ones who love em already..sure it would be great for DT to get some acclaim for what they do from this body..but to me I still love em..& I couldn't give a shit what the rest of the world thinks of them..
Whitney had a fantastic voice back in the day..I'm not choked........but it is sad.
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I mean, seriously? I'm not trying to be insensitive. I've been defending Whitney Houston all night on Facebook to "who cares, she was a crackhead anyway" morons.... but, what a frigging time for this to happen. Even if DT does win the Grammy - will anyone really care? We're going to be hearing about this for weeks. Ugh.
Yeah, I mean, fuck, now DT definitely won't be on tv. I'm sure they are pissed too ::)
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Which category is DT nominated in ?
Unless it's best female vocal I think they can rest easy.
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Of course we'll be hearing a lot about this, but I seriously doubt DT would get that much talk even if Whitney was still alive and well. It's not like they're the biggest stars on the Grammy's, nothing changed.
And it's different with Michael Jackson, he died right after BC&SL was released and that affected the sales. It's been months since the release of ADTOE.
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Don't forget, it isn't just Michael Jackson and Whitney Houston. Also LSFNY and 9/11.
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Don't forget, it isn't just Michael Jackson and Whitney Houston. Also LSFNY and 9/11.
So basically we can conclude that celebrities and terrorists hate Dream Theater.
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Well, no. But death always lurks around the corner.
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Michael Jackson's death caused DT to "only" be #6 back in 2009. A lot of people said they would have charted higher, but Jackson's death caused a bit of a surge in his record sales the same week Black Clouds came out.
Fuck the charts. Isn't 6 still very high for an album, which has six songs, and only two are less then ten minutes long?
And show me somebody, who went to record store to buy BC&SL, but heard, that Michael Jackson is dead and bought Thriller instead.
My point is, that DT had sold somewhat same amount of records the first week, if they had released BC&SL a week earlier. They just were five positions lower than what was possible, because Michael Jackson sold more records.
R.I.P. Whitney Houston.
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Michael Jackson died. A child molester gone. No biggie.
Well that's a bit....rough.....
Its true. Fuck Michael Jackson. Fuck Joe Paterno.
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The day JLB auditioned for DT was the day we began Desert Storm .....
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Michael Jackson died. A child molester gone. No biggie.
Well that's a bit....rough.....
Its true. Fuck Michael Jackson. Fuck Joe Paterno.
Why even bring Joe Paterno into this? He did nothing wrong and was one of the greatest college football coaches of all time. If you want to hate on Michael Jackson go ahead, but I would hope most people remember him for the music he created. Instead of the issues he had in the later years of his life.
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You should be more worried about P-Diddy living off another dead musician SE. He's doing it again tonight. My ears will be assaulted again.
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I see the OP point but I don't think Michael Jackson is comparable. Is Whitney Houston is famous for anything other than that awful song from The Bodyguard? then she was famous for crack and being beat up by husband so she became a tabloid character.
Er, she was already a huge pop star before that song.
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Houston, we have a problem.
Too soon?
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"This thread is dildos."
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well. that was interesting. and really ott. :facepalm:
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"What the shit."
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Jennifer Hudson will pay tribute to her on the Grammys.
https://www.680news.com/entertainment/article/329818--grammys-to-honour-whitney-houston-with-a-tribute-from-jennifer-hudson-at-sunday-show
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After:
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I don't think Dream Theater are worried.
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Michael Jackson died. A child molester gone. No biggie.
Well that's a bit....rough.....
Its true. Fuck Michael Jackson. Fuck Joe Paterno.
Jesus Christ, can we mention one dead person without comments like these? FFS
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Never mind, forget I said anything.
ok
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It is truly sad that DT is associated with some of the disrespectful bullshit happening in this thread.
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Don't forget, it isn't just Michael Jackson and Whitney Houston. Also LSFNY and 9/11.
So basically we can conclude that celebrities and terrorists hate Dream Theater.
It wouldn't surprise me at all. :rollin
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She was a drug addict for years, I'm surprised she didn't pass away earlier to be honest. Because of her problems I have considered her as practically dead for a long time (along with other people in similar situations).
Dunno dude, I think you're making too much out of this. An artist who many already figured dead died now. That tribute performance will be that, they're not gonna make this a Whitney Houston Grammy Award.
Besides, in all likelihood DT's "big moment" will be those 5 seconds of the song they play so that not everybody in audience asks "what the fuck is a Cream Theater?"
rumborak
Well, I wanted to watch the Grammy show to catch Maceo Parker's performance, but it turns out he and others won't be performing at all because of her death. Looks like that will be the main focus of the evening to me.
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After:
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I don't think Dream Theater are worried.
Fuck.
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I don't get it. Even if they did win and Whitney Houston hadn't died it's not like the mainstream media was suddenly going to be clammering over themselves for an exclusive interview with DT or whatever.
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I don't get it. Even if they did win and Whitney Houston hadn't died it's not like the mainstream media was suddenly going to be clammering over themselves for an exclusive interview with DT or whatever.
But you can't deny that it would squash any chance of a bit of publicity for the band.
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But you can't deny that it would squash any chance of a bit of publicity for the band.
THAT IS EXACTLY THE FUCKING POINT.
Why has it only been you and maybe one or two other people who understand this point?
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Nevermind, you, "really.....dude"-ed me earlier in the thread. Maybe you're coming around now?
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But you can't deny that it would squash any chance of a bit of publicity for the band.
THAT IS EXACTLY THE FUCKING POINT.
Why has it only been you and maybe one or two other people who understand this point?
I don't know, man. It's a pretty simple message to understand from the OP.
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I guess. I'm just not thinking they'd be getting much publicity anyways. I mean, the award is only even being aired online :lol
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I guess. I'm just not thinking they'd be getting much publicity anyways. I mean, the award is only even being aired online :lol
Even if they win, it's going to get a lot of people's attention. Mostly for the "Who the fuck are these guys?" factor.
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Okay, so basically - since last night when I made my original post:
1) now Whitney Houston IS going to be a big part of the Grammys, as evidenced by the cancellations of scheduled performers.
2) DT winning a Grammy DOES matter and they DO care about it because it IS important for their career.
OK. Now, I'll accept apologies from all the people who posted those ultra-clever (i.e. LAME and redundant) pictures with dumb phrases on them. Just PM the apologies to me if you're too embarrassed to say it here. I won't say anything..... I promise.
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Nevermind, you, "really.....dude"-ed me earlier in the thread. Maybe you're coming around now?
That was actually a joke. :heart
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That was actually a joke. :heart
No, it wasn't. LOL
But, that's okay. Hearts are always good. :)
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That was actually a joke. :heart
No, it wasn't. LOL
But, that's okay. Hearts are always good. :)
It actually was. :yeahright
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Okay, so basically - since last night when I made my original post:
1) now Whitney Houston IS going to be a big part of the Grammys, as evidenced by the cancellations of scheduled performers.
2) DT winning a Grammy DOES matter and they DO care about it because it IS important for their career.
OK. Now, I'll accept apologies from all the people who posted those ultra-clever (i.e. LAME and redundant) pictures with dumb phrases on them. Just PM the apologies to me if you're too embarrassed to say it here. I won't say anything..... I promise.
Foo Fighters and Bruce Springsteen aren't cancelled are they? :C
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2) DT winning a Grammy DOES matter and they DO care about it because it IS important for their career.
Yeah, but they aren't such drama queens that they're thinking to themselves "man, I wish Whitney Houston weren't so selfish as to die right now. If she were alive, everybody would be paying attention to Dream Theater!"
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It actually was. :yeahright
Oh. Sry
Foo Fighters and Bruce Springsteen aren't cancelled are they? :C
No, but they should be. I'd rather see them put Whitney Houston up there..... dead.... than either of those two.
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It actually was. :yeahright
Oh. Sry
Foo Fighters and Bruce Springsteen aren't cancelled are they? :C
No, but they should be. I'd rather see them put Whitney Houston up there..... dead.... than either of those two.
Foo Fighters and Bruce Springsteen are awesome, hush you.
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No, but they should be. I'd rather see them put Whitney Houston up there..... dead.... than either of those two.
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Yeah, but they aren't such drama queens that they're thinking to themselves "man, I wish Whitney Houston weren't so selfish as to die right now. If she were alive, everybody would be paying attention to Dream Theater!"
That, what you just did, is called: "melodramatizing someone's post." In other words, that's not what I said DT should feel like or are feeling like. What I SAID was that it must be a bummer to go into such a huge night for them knowing that Whitney Houston's death is the big thing on everyone's mind. Nowhere did I say, "EVERYONE WOULD BE APATEINON GAATTENTION TO DREAM THERAREYI HARAUYU11!!!"
So, really - stop putting words in my mouth. It's annoying and I don't appreciate it.
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Okay, quick.
Name the winner of the best hard rock/metal Grammy from the last five years. Without going to Wiki or Google.
Yeah, thought so.
The only thing most people know about that award? LOL Metallica lost to Jethro Tull. If THAT.
There's no huge boost from winning this award. No publicity worth mentioning past a Roadrunner press release. And even if there was, suggesting that someone's death is less important is beyond silly.
And no, I won't be apologizing in any way, shape or form. Even THINKING this, much less posting it, was stupid.
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Yeah, but they aren't such drama queens that they're thinking to themselves "man, I wish Whitney Houston weren't so selfish as to die right now. If she were alive, everybody would be paying attention to Dream Theater!"
That, what you just did, is called: "melodramatizing someone's post." In other words, that's not what I said DT should feel like or are feeling like. What I SAID was that it must be a bummer to go into such a huge night for them knowing that Whitney Houston's death is the big thing on everyone's mind. Nowhere did I say, "EVERYONE WOULD BE APATEINON GAATTENTION TO DREAM THERAREYI HARAUYU11!!!"
So, really - stop putting words in my mouth. It's annoying and I don't appreciate it.
What you said was "Even if DT does win the Grammy - will anyone really care?", which is far closer to "EVERYONE WOULD BE APATEINON GAATTENTION TO DREAM THERAREYI HARAUYU11!!!" than to "it must be a bummer to go into such a huge night for them knowing that Whitney Houston's death is the big thing on everyone's mind" (not that the latter is a heck of a lot better, anyway; this is really just a bad thread).
EDIT: The facts are:
1) This award does not matter. It's a very unimportant award and DT would not get a significant boost by winning it.
2) Even if DT did get a boost by winning it, Whitney Houston's death wouldn't have affected the outcome of the award anyway.
3) DT didn't have a performance that was bumped due to the Houston tribute.
DT was doomed to go into the ceremony as unknowns and walk out as unknowns. They knew this, expected this, and are okay with it; DT's discography would look very different if what was important to them was commercial success. Whitney Houston does not matter, and DT is not concerned about what might have been had Whitney Houston not died, plain and simple.
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I see the OP point but I don't think Michael Jackson is comparable. Is Whitney Houston is famous for anything other than that awful song from The Bodyguard? then she was famous for crack and being beat up by husband so she became a tabloid character.
So, what did Michael Jackson get famous for other than his singing? (Don't tell me that he didn't become a tabloid character...)
IMHO Whitneys voice > Michaels voice. Check her back catalogue.
Really? Okay it's your HO as you said :)
I can't check her back catalog cause R'n'B inflects severe testicular pain on me.
Music aside; Michael Jackson was a legendary dancer with a very special talent for that and his music videos were usually creative and broke several creative boundaries, set aside the fact that he's the best selling recording artist of all time and even though the latter is not really a testament for his superiority but the fact that there's no spot on this planet where you'll find people who wouldn't recognize Michael Jackson's songs or at the very least recognize his appearance and his unique persona, the goods and the bads of it.
I remember Jackson's death rocking the foundation of the internet. I just looked it up now and
"Michael Jackson passed away today at the age of 50."The Los Angeles Times website confirmed the report at 2:51 pm PDT (5:51 pm EDT). The news spread quickly online, causing websites to slow down and crash from user overload. Both TMZ and the Los Angeles Times suffered outages. Google initially believed that the input from millions of people searching for "Michael Jackson" meant that the search engine was under attack. Twitter reported a crash, as did Wikipedia at 3:15 pm The Wikimedia Foundation reported nearly a million visitors to Jackson's biography within one hour, probably the most visitors in a one-hour period to any article in Wikipedia's history. AOL Instant Messenger went down for 40 minutes. AOL called it a "seminal moment in Internet history", adding, "We've never seen anything like it in terms of scope or depth."
From Wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Michael_Jackson#Media_and_Internet_coverage).
Now I don't think this ^ is gonna ever happen again unless there's an actual alien invasion.
I'm sorry if I seemed disrespectful to Whitney Houston in my first post and this post is not meant to undermine it either but I'm just pointing out the comparison -in regards to the OP- seemed off balance.
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Name the winner of the best hard rock/metal Grammy from the last five years. Without going to Wiki or Google.
You know what? I just looked it up because I didn't know. And, guess what? The last three were:
Metallica (2009)
Judas Priest (2010)
Iron Maiden (2011)
So, you're right! METALLICA, JUDAS PRIEST AND MAIDEN DIDN'T GET A FRIGGING BOOST! Gee, I wonder why? Maybe because.... well..... I don't know..... they were..... ALREADY METALLICA, JUDAS PRIEST AND IRON MAIDEN? We're talking about Dream Theater here. Sorry, but saying DT wouldn't get a boost from winning a Grammy is RETARDED. Even the band would disagree with you. Why are they taking time out of their EUROPEAN TOUR to attend the Grammys if what you're saying is true?
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Name the winner of the best hard rock/metal Grammy from the last five years. Without going to Wiki or Google.
You know what? I just looked it up because I didn't know. And, guess what? The last three were:
Metallica (2009)
Judas Priest (2010)
Iron Maiden (2011)
So, you're right! METALLICA, JUDAS PRIEST AND MAIDEN DIDN'T GET A FRIGGING BOOST! Gee, I wonder why? Maybe because.... well..... I don't know..... they were..... ALREADY METALLICA, JUDAS PRIEST AND IRON MAIDEN? We're talking about Dream Theater here. Sorry, but saying DT wouldn't get a boost from winning a Grammy is RETARDED. Even the band would disagree with you. Why are they taking time out of their EUROPEAN TOUR to attend the Grammys if what you're saying is true?
Great point.
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Holy crap, dude.
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If I'm completely honest, all I see is a few disappointed fans. :chill guys.
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The DT side of this forum was cool before Whitney Houston died.
That was odd to type.
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The DT side of this forum was cool before Whitney Houston died.
That was odd to type.
:lol
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If I'm completely honest, all I see is a few disappointed fans. :chill guys.
DON'T TELL ME TO CHILL OUT. Thanks.
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Maybe The Count Of Tuscany put a curse on Petrucci where if they ever reached a certain point of success, people die. Of course, Petrucci would leave that part out of the story, and change it to a happy ending.
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Name the winner of the best hard rock/metal Grammy from the last five years. Without going to Wiki or Google.
You know what? I just looked it up because I didn't know. And, guess what? The last three were:
Metallica (2009)
Judas Priest (2010)
Iron Maiden (2011)
So, you're right! METALLICA, JUDAS PRIEST AND MAIDEN DIDN'T GET A FRIGGING BOOST! Gee, I wonder why? Maybe because.... well..... I don't know..... they were..... ALREADY METALLICA, JUDAS PRIEST AND IRON MAIDEN? We're talking about Dream Theater here. Sorry, but saying DT wouldn't get a boost from winning a Grammy is RETARDED. Even the band would disagree with you. Why are they taking time out of their EUROPEAN TOUR to attend the Grammys if what you're saying is true?
And the two years before that were Slayer. But even though they were already super popular bands, their Grammy wins didn't mean shit for them. It didn't make everybody go "hmmmm guess I'd better go buy the Final Frontier and World Painted Blood now" because the Grammys just aren't meant for that kind of audience.
Maybe hard rock/metal categories aren't a good place to look, since they're usually the old guard of metal who need to win something so their past contributions to music are noticed. Lets look at Album of the Year. Arcade Fire won last year, a band who was very popular in certain niche markets and got lucky when "Wake Up" started to be used in a bunch of little things a few years back. Did their winning best album last year boost their popularity at all? Probably not. All they have now is an extra three words to anything they do now: "Grammy winning group." DT would be the same way, I think. No real popularity boost outside of their niche, just those extra words.
But for serious SnakeEyes, calm the fuck down about this kind of stuff. You always seem so agitated about stuff like this. So what if Whitney died? Even if DT won and she hadn't died, people wouldn't care enough to check them out and boost their popularity. In fact there'd probably just be a bunch of people raging, much in the way you are now, about how the Foo Fighters got robbed, asking what a Dream Theater was. :P
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So, anyone think it's possible that Whitney died to actually help the Foo Fighters? Seems plausible to me. Also makes sense a song named "White Limo" wins - nobody associates this with a black artist.
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I think the only boost from winning a Grammy would be that promotoers who otherwise might take a pass on them might now take a chance, and some 11 or 12 year old kid can use it as a bargaining chip to talk their parents into letting him buy a Dream Theater album.
But truthfully, the nomination probably gets them all that as well. They really won just by being nominated.
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The fact that Slayer won a grammy should tell everyone how worthless the grammy's are.
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So, anyone think it's possible that Whitney died to actually help the Foo Fighters? Seems plausible to me. Also makes sense a song named "White Limo" wins - nobody associates this with a black artist.
wat
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This thread hurts my brain.
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This thread hurts my brain.
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Name the winner of the best hard rock/metal Grammy from the last five years. Without going to Wiki or Google.
You know what? I just looked it up because I didn't know. And, guess what? The last three were:
Metallica (2009)
Judas Priest (2010)
Iron Maiden (2011)
So, you're right! METALLICA, JUDAS PRIEST AND MAIDEN DIDN'T GET A FRIGGING BOOST! Gee, I wonder why? Maybe because.... well..... I don't know..... they were..... ALREADY METALLICA, JUDAS PRIEST AND IRON MAIDEN?
Great point.
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Kind of a weird thread........I highly doubt DT is thinking anything like this.
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So, anyone think it's possible that Whitney died to actually help the Foo Fighters? Seems plausible to me. Also makes sense a song named "White Limo" wins - nobody associates this with a black artist.
wat
Just kidding.