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Title: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: changing_seasons on April 25, 2011, 09:20:15 AM
.. was Neal Morse converting to Christianity.

I've been deeply immersing myself in all of his Christian Progressive Rock albums over the past few months, and I really can't describe how amazing they are. Neal Morse is a genius in the word's most brilliant sense.
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: zerogravityfat on April 25, 2011, 09:21:01 AM
repent from the devil and follow the true prophet wilson.
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on April 25, 2011, 09:23:03 AM
Well, this is dumb.








Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on April 25, 2011, 09:24:30 AM
Not a fan of his Christian albums at all tbh.
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: mizzl on April 25, 2011, 09:34:36 AM
repent from the devil and follow the true prophet wilson.
This
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: reneranucci on April 25, 2011, 09:38:43 AM
He's definitely a genius, capable of creating some of the most gorgeous melodies ever  :tup
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: jsem on April 25, 2011, 10:44:54 AM
I've actually only listened to Sola Scriptura... but prior to Testimony 2 I think I'll have to give this man a visit... haha
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: KevShmev on April 25, 2011, 10:50:14 AM
I wouldn't go that far, but Neal is definitely a super talented guy who has written some great music, with Spock's Beard, Transatlantic, and on his own.
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: skydivingninja on April 25, 2011, 11:08:47 AM
Neal Spock's Beard >>>>>> Neal solo.

Besides, the greatest event in prog history was the formation of Rush, followed by the birth of Steven Wilson, and then followed by the birth of Claudio Sanchez.
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: glaurung on April 25, 2011, 11:09:40 AM
and then followed by the birth of Claudio Sanchez.

lol
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: jsem on April 25, 2011, 11:15:31 AM
and then followed by the birth of Claudio Sanchez.

LOL
FTFM

Don't get me wrong, I like Coheed.. but  :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on April 25, 2011, 11:33:14 AM
This whole discussion is "lol".  This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. 
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: changing_seasons on April 25, 2011, 11:51:55 AM
We can of course never know if his music after becoming a born-again in 2002 would be as good as it has been, but I strongly believe he has found a lot of inspiration in his faith. Now I'm not religious in any way, but I actually find the Christian lyrics very fitting. I mean, what's more epic than a prog album with lyrics about the creation of the world and God's relationship with man? His lyrics in general are far from preachy and clichéd like so many Christian bands. We have Testimony, concerning Neal's conversion, One, which is the genesis story, and Sola Scriptura, a concept album about the life of Martin Luther (which is one of the most original concept ideas I can think of). I guess Lifeline is the most generic Christian Rock album, not being a concept album like the rest of them. But then it has So Many Roads, which has become my all time favorite song.
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: changing_seasons on April 25, 2011, 11:52:52 AM
This whole discussion is "lol".  This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. 

I guess you missed my John Petrucci's snails thread then?  :lol
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: King Postwhore on April 25, 2011, 11:55:30 AM
The biggest event was the Hammond organ which in 1934 was made and mostly used in churches.  Thank god (pun intended) that Jazz and theorigins of Prog rock picked up on this great instrument.
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: zxlkho on April 25, 2011, 11:55:47 AM
This whole discussion is "lol".  This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen.  
This.
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on April 25, 2011, 11:56:01 AM
The biggest event was the Hammond organ which in 1934 was made and mostly used in churches.
This. And Mellotron.
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: zxlkho on April 25, 2011, 11:59:51 AM
Just to contribute to this thread, the greatest event in prog history is the formation of King Crimson.
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: antigoon on April 25, 2011, 12:16:05 PM
King Crimson sucks and so do you.
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: SeverusSnape on April 25, 2011, 12:24:47 PM
i think that the most important event of prog histery was when images and words came out  :biggrin:
i mean, their was prog before that but it wasnt very good, dt brought the Metal!   :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on April 25, 2011, 12:27:48 PM
Dream Theater wasn't the first prog metal band, you know...
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: Nekov on April 25, 2011, 12:28:09 PM
Just to contribute to this thread, the greatest event in prog history is the formation of King Crimson.

Couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: Quadrochosis on April 25, 2011, 12:38:07 PM
The most important event in prog was the release of ITCOTCK
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: Ħ on April 25, 2011, 12:47:38 PM
Neal's stuff is great, but I wouldn't call any of his albums "masterpieces", ya know?  They are just very fun to listen to.  Except Testimony, that's probably a masterpiece.

Maybe I'm still pining about how horrible Lifeline was.  Wow, what an awful album.
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 25, 2011, 12:52:39 PM
Maybe I'm still pining about how horrible Lifeline was.  Wow, what an awful album.

You are the worst person.

Although I know it's usually people's last ranked album for his solo-prog stuff.


Still, I understand the sentiment of the OP...but I would say, rather, that is the best event in Neal Morse's prog contributions. His solo stuff slays SB and TA, IMHO. Then again, I am a NM fanboy, so...
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: DarkEternalNight on April 25, 2011, 01:30:19 PM
I think Transatlantic is the best Neal Morse related project.
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: mizzl on April 25, 2011, 01:34:26 PM
The single most important event of prog history is of course the formation of Porcupine Tree.

Also, loldiscussion
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: zxlkho on April 25, 2011, 01:38:10 PM
The single most important event of prog history is of course the formation of Porcupine Tree.

Also, loldiscussion
I would say this, but PT was influenced by KC and PF heavily, so it has to be them.
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: The King in Crimson on April 25, 2011, 08:23:33 PM
King Crimson is awesome and I think farm animals are sexy.
Fixed it for trooth.
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: The Degenerate on April 25, 2011, 09:14:38 PM
Well, this is dumb.
Title: Re: What's a 'God Complex'?
Post by: LeeHarveyKennedy on April 25, 2011, 09:36:18 PM
You're all wrong. The most important event occurred 8/29/84, for on that date I was born. I would go on to listen to prog rock, and thus legitimize it as an art form.
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: KevShmev on April 25, 2011, 10:00:54 PM
I think Transatlantic is the best Neal Morse related project.

Same here, and I don't think it's close.  Honestly, while Neal has a handful of great records with Spock's Beard and on his own (and many more that range from good to very good), the three Transatlantic records are by far the best three records he has been involved with, IMO.
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: MetalManiac666 on April 25, 2011, 10:06:20 PM
The most important event in prog was the release of ITCOTCK
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 25, 2011, 10:30:26 PM
Actually you all are wrong. The most important event is this:

(https://www.progarchives.com/progressive_rock_discography_covers/105/cover_433419102008.jpg)
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: jsem on April 26, 2011, 02:48:38 AM
The most important event would be In The Court of the Crimson King... but yeah, Close to the Edge is probably in the top 5 events.
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: wolfking on April 26, 2011, 05:41:01 AM
Rush.
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: MetalManiac666 on April 26, 2011, 08:47:12 PM
ITCOTCK came out before Rush's eponymous debut, which wasn't even really prog.  So give it even a few more years before they really made a splash in the prog world.
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: j on April 26, 2011, 09:23:19 PM
I don't know what the most important event in the history of prog is, but I know it has nothing to do with Steven Wilson. :biggrin:

Honestly I can't really see a spike or drop in the quality of Neal Morse's stuff post-conversion.  It's about the same with the exception of the lyrical content.  If anything, I prefer Transatlantic and Spock's Beard to his solo stuff for the most part.

And LOL @ BrotherH.  Testimony is by far the worst Neal Morse solo album.

-J
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: Ħ on April 26, 2011, 09:24:34 PM
I don't know what the most important event in the history of prog is, but I know it has nothing to do with Steven Wilson. :biggrin:

Honestly I can't really see a spike or drop in the quality of Neal Morse's stuff post-conversion.  It's about the same with the exception of the lyrical content.  If anything, I prefer Transatlantic and Spock's Beard to his solo stuff for the most part.

And LOL @ BrotherH.  Testimony is by far the worst Neal Morse solo album.

-J
You failed more than once in that post.  Just so you know.
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: j on April 26, 2011, 09:26:34 PM
I don't know the meaning of the word "fail".

-J
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: The Degenerate on April 26, 2011, 09:51:52 PM
I don't know what the most important event in the history of prog is, but I know it has nothing to do with Steven Wilson. :biggrin:

Honestly I can't really see a spike or drop in the quality of Neal Morse's stuff post-conversion.  It's about the same with the exception of the lyrical content.  If anything, I prefer Transatlantic and Spock's Beard to his solo stuff for the most part.

And LOL @ BrotherH.  Testimony is by far the worst Neal Morse solo album.

-J
You failed more than once in that post.  Just so you know.

I counted four fails.
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: glaurung on April 26, 2011, 09:54:27 PM
It will be the drummer announcement.

:jamaritard:
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: Accelerando on April 27, 2011, 12:05:50 AM
Roy Khan just found Jesus. He and Morse should form a band. THAT will be amazing.
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: SPNKr on April 27, 2011, 07:23:03 PM
Krautrock.
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: chrisbDTM on April 27, 2011, 07:25:05 PM
July 12, 1967 - John Peter Petrucci was welcomed to this world
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on April 27, 2011, 07:39:16 PM
Krautrock.
:hefdaddy :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: The Degenerate on April 27, 2011, 07:41:49 PM
Krautrock.

Not sure if I agree, but definitely the best answer posted so far :tup
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: SPNKr on April 27, 2011, 07:51:24 PM
Krautrock.
:hefdaddy :hefdaddy
Krautrock.

Not sure if I agree, but definitely the best answer posted so far :tup

It was important indeed, but not the single most important thing. I can't think of many other events as I'm not that knowledgeable in the history of 'progressive' music.
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: The King in Crimson on April 27, 2011, 07:52:31 PM
May 26, 1967 - Kevin Moore punched his way out of his mother's uterus
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 27, 2011, 07:54:45 PM
^Blows my mind that I share a birthday with KevMo.

And her uterus will never be open again.
Title: Re: The single most important event of prog history..
Post by: MetalManiac666 on April 27, 2011, 10:38:25 PM
And her uterus will never be open again.

Excellent.