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Dream Theater => Dream Theater => Topic started by: Ultimetalhead on April 15, 2011, 01:13:22 PM
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Per the man's Facebook.
"Hey Everyone,
Hope you're all doing great. Just letting you know, starting vocals for the new DT this coming Monday. Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawk.
See ya."
Sounds like they're making some good progress. Vocals are usually last, are they not?
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Usually, yeah.
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Nah, announcing the drummer usually is.
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Nah, announcing the drummer usually is.
Hahaha
Sounds like they're making some good progress. Vocals are usually last, are they not?
That and the solos. For some reason I keep thinking maybe some keyboard tracks could be unfinished, but I don't know why.
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I guess this would be interesting if we all didn't know it already.
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I guess this would be interesting if we all didn't know it already.
Quiet you.
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Vocals are usually last or close to last. There's a good possibility that guitar solos, keyboard solos and misc keyboards may still be tracked later.
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Oh my god, guys.
Shit is becoming real.
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Vocals are usually last or close to last. There's a good possibility that guitar solos, keyboard solos and misc keyboards may still be tracked later.
Also various other sounds aside from the base tracks are done post vocals.
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Oh my god, guys.
Shit is becoming real.
Except for the drummer. The drummer is still fictitious.
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The iPad app that will provide the unnecessary solo in track 5 still has to be written. So, that will be last.
rubmorak
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Track 5...
Oh my god, track 5! Gotta make a new thread bros.
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Sounds good. I wonder how his vocals will turn out on the album.
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Whee! :caffeine:
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Sounds good. I wonder how his vocals will turn out on the album.
They will turn out sounding like Jame Labrie... :neverusethis:
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Sounds good. I wonder how his vocals will turn out on the album.
They will turn out sounding like Jame Labrie... :neverusethis:
Get out.
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The irritating growl overdubs are usually saved for last.
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I'm so happy to know that LaBrie won't be accompanied by Portnoy underneath him.
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I hope he is given free rein this time around. He is capable of so many good things then.
B.Lee
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I hope he is given free rein this time around. He is capable of so many good things then.
B.Lee
Static Impulse :tup
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I hope he is given free rein this time around. He is capable of so many good things then.
B.Lee
Static Impulse :tup
BC&SL Covers disc :tup :tup
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I'm so happy to know that LaBrie won't be accompanied by Portnoy underneath him.
Or WILL he???!
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I'm so happy to know that LaBrie won't be accompanied by Portnoy underneath him.
Or WILL he???!
He won't be. :)
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Won't he??
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Facebook:
"Hey Everyone,
Finished a track yesterday and movin on to the next.
RaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawK." :justjen
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Twitter: "Hey Everyone, Finished the first track yesterday. It oozes with emotion. Movin on to the next. Raaaaaaaaaawk."
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I don't know what the next twitter update will say but I'm guessing it'll end with 'Raaaaaawk' Either that or that's the name of the track/album :P
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:caffeine:
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:hat :hat :hat :hat :hat
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Very cool :metal :yarr
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It oozes with emotion.
:hefdaddy
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That sounds kinda gross. Give the guy a Kleenex or something.
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I don't know what the next twitter update will say but I'm guessing it'll end with 'Raaaaaawk' Either that or that's the name of the track/album :P
I bet 'Raaaaawk" is the new album title.
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Getting excited!
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It says a lot, to me, about how well he's singing if he can track a song in literally one day. Either that, or that song doesn't have very much in the way of vocals.
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Maybe it was an instrumental :lol
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yesterday was mike manginis birthday
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It says a lot, to me, about how well he's singing if he can track a song in literally one day. Either that, or that song doesn't have very much in the way of vocals.
Probably helps not having someone in the studio telling him how to sing :D
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It says a lot, to me, about how well he's singing if he can track a song in literally one day. Either that, or that song doesn't have very much in the way of vocals.
Gotta be the former. What DT songs don't have very many vocals, other than the instrumentals? Seems like anything that has JLB in it features him quite prominently. Of course, who knows what the hell the new band dynamic will produce...
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It says a lot, to me, about how well he's singing if he can track a song in literally one day. Either that, or that song doesn't have very much in the way of vocals.
He's very possibly in one hell of a groove.
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It says a lot, to me, about how well he's singing if he can track a song in literally one day. Either that, or that song doesn't have very much in the way of vocals.
He's very possibly in one hell of a groove.
From the tweets I've red, the whole band seems to be in a hell of a groove, maybe they are inspired by having a new drummer and a different band dynamic.
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They have to be. And honestly, I think finishing the vocals for a song in a day... come on, that sounds super easy if you can sing and the song is already written out and etc. How many minutes total do you think he sang for? A handful of minutes for an entire day's work sounds about right.
When he says that it oozes with emotion, it makes me wonder and idealize. I'm thinking of something like the Peaceful Sedation segment or Regression type of singing.
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Perhaps we will be seeing a lot of shorter tracks on this album? I think when he says he completed one track in only a day, a lot of us were imagining him recording a 10 minute song's worth of vocals in one day, but maybe they started with a shorter song? Makes me think of the many short tracks on Porcupine Tree's newest album... maybe they went that route this time, instead of the 6 long songs from BCSL.
/rampant speculation
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That would be awesome. Hope for the number of songs to be in the double digits.
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That would be terrible... Long songs are better.
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Perhaps we will be seeing a lot of shorter tracks on this album? I think when he says he completed one track in only a day, a lot of us were imagining him recording a 10 minute song's worth of vocals in one day, but maybe they started with a shorter song? Makes me think of the many short tracks on Porcupine Tree's newest album... maybe they went that route this time, instead of the 6 long songs from BCSL.
/rampant speculation
That'd be cool. I would like that actually
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That would be terrible... Long songs are better.
Eh.
So are you a Florida cracker (asking because of your username)?
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Short songs can be good as well, as long as there are a couple of nice long ones thrown in the mix. I think SFAM had the biggest track count of DT albums, at 12 songs, and some of them like Regression, Through My Words, and One Last Time are pretty short but still quality tunes.
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That would be terrible... Long songs are better.
Nah.
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At least a couple of long ones, so they can explore, and I can enjoy.
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Well JR just posted a pic on Facebook about what he did today, and from the look, he is far from a studio LOL.
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Well JR just posted a pic on Facebook about what he did today, and from the look, he is far from a studio LOL.
Exactly what I was thinking :lol
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I guess mixing/mastering will be beginning by the start of May then. :)
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That would be terrible... Long songs are better.
Nah.
If you consider long to be 15 mins +... I consider long to be around the 8 minute mark (compared to almost all mainstream songs). So yes an 8 min song, which might be normal to you, would be good. While if the songs are something like 4 mins then that would be not so good.
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That would be awesome. I want 15 songs, all 4:00 to 5:00 each.
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As always, each song should be as long as necessary to convey its message. I kinda like a mix of shorter and medium tunes and one or two "epics".
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Would be cool if the longest song is 15 max. That way they have time to play the other epics more.
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It says a lot, to me, about how well he's singing if he can track a song in literally one day. Either that, or that song doesn't have very much in the way of vocals.
Two things:
- Professional vocalists can move very quickly if they're in the right mindset and the session is well run. The whole point of being a professional is to delivery professional quality performances on command. So the idea of LaBrie doing a song in one day is zero percent surprising.
- What I do find interesting is that the pace of DT's vocal recording in the past seems to have run very slowly. It's possible, though we can't know at the moment, that JP's running a looser vocal session this time around, accounting for the quicker pace. This wouldn't bother me at all because I think JLB performs better that way.
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I also think "dripping with emotion" means that it isn't so much about perfecting the vocals on the song as it is just letting it come to him...which would take less time in the right mindset/environment (as Reapsta said).
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- What I do find interesting is that the pace of DT's vocal recording in the past seems to have run very slowly. It's possible, though we can't know at the moment, that JP's running a looser vocal session this time around, accounting for the quicker pace. This wouldn't bother me at all because I think JLB performs better that way.
Without Portnoy there to direct him, I'd imagine he is doing what he wants more than anything else.
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Hearing that a new song is oozing with emotion really brightened my day; more than it should have, in fact. I need some betters days.
I bet 'Raaaaawk" is the new album title.
Man I hope so.
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There's bound to be 10+ minute songs, its just a Dream Theater thing to have them. If they bring out a new album and all the songs are less than 10 minutes, then everyone will be bitching how they lost their prog when Mike left, Mike brought the prog to the band, they're not the same anymore bla bla bla...
I think the albums going to be more like FII in terms of song lengths. I'm sure it wont be like BC&SL with long songs but small number of them. I think its going to be pretty mixed.
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Good point. They need to show the world how things haven't really changed all that much, but at the same time there will be things that are different. I'm sure they'd love to just tell the world to fuck off, but as much as every artist wants to do that, they're also well aware that this next release is critical for establishing the current and future direction of the band.
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- What I do find interesting is that the pace of DT's vocal recording in the past seems to have run very slowly. It's possible, though we can't know at the moment, that JP's running a looser vocal session this time around, accounting for the quicker pace. This wouldn't bother me at all because I think JLB performs better that way.
Without Portnoy there to direct him, I'd imagine he is doing what he wants more than anything else.
I didn't post that because it's not necessarily true. On the Chaos in Motion DVD, JP was right there with MP in terms of vocal directing. Maybe he's changed things now that he runs the show, but that's speculation.
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Good point. They need to show the world how things haven't really changed all that much, but at the same time there will be things that are different. I'm sure they'd love to just tell the world to fuck off, but as much as every artist wants to do that, they're also well aware that this next release is critical for establishing the current and future direction of the band.
Yeah, the band itself isn't going to be unrecognizable or anything, but there's bound to be a few changes.
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Can't wait!James will kick asses with this album performance ;)
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I hope he brings as much artistic freedom to this next DT album as does on his solo projects. :tup
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I hope he brings as much artistic freedom to this next DT album as does on his solo projects. :tup
Me too.Static impulse was WOW for me ;D
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Remember though, guys, even though the James LaBrie album was credited under his name, it was a writing effort of every musician there.
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Remember though, guys, even though the James LaBrie album was credited under his name, it was a writing effort of every musician there.
Good point. Yet, it shows what he is capable of when given free rein with his vocals. That's what I hope for the next DT album.
B.Lee
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I hope he brings as much artistic freedom to this next DT album as does on his solo projects. :tup
Me too.Static impulse was WOW for me ;D
Yeah, bigtime. One of the best heavy metal records I own.
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[...]and then I begin recording vocals with James LaBrie for the new Dream Theater CD. Can someone tell me WHO the new drummer is?? Sheesh!! …. c ya!
Be well,
R.
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Ooh! I had no idea Richard Chycki was involved.
He produced Elements of Persuasion, yeah? If he's in a production role, vocally, that could be stunning.
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I hope he brings as much artistic freedom to this next DT album as does on his solo projects. :tup
Me too.Static impulse was WOW for me ;D
Yeah, bigtime. One of the best heavy metal records I own.
Seriously? How many do you own?
Ah forget it . . .
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Ooh! I had no idea Richard Chycki was involved.
He produced Elements of Persuasion, yeah? If he's in a production role, vocally, that could be stunning.
Oh wow, that's a great thing to hear. I love love LOVE the vocals on EoP, and Chycki potentially recreating the magic on the new DT record has me so excited.
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Will we get a CRUCIFYYYYYYY
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I want telephone vocals, as seen on "Slightly Out of Reach" in seven words.
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Ooh! I had no idea Richard Chycki was involved.
He produced Elements of Persuasion, yeah? If he's in a production role, vocally, that could be stunning.
Oh wow, that's a great thing to hear. I love love LOVE the vocals on EoP, and Chycki potentially recreating the magic on the new DT record has me so excited.
Well, he could just be mixing or engineering, so don't get too excited, but he doesn't specify his role and it'd be a very cool combination.
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I hope he sings similar to his vocal style on Smashed and Slightly Out of Reach off EOP.
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That would be awesome. Hope for the number of songs to be in the double digits.
I'm betting TRIPLE. You're on, pal!
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That would be awesome. Hope for the number of songs to be in the double digits.
I'm betting TRIPLE. You're on, pal!
I'm not your pal, person I consider my lifelong friend!
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You're not your friend, guy!
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I'm not myself, me!
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I want telephone vocals, as seen on "Slightly Out of Reach" in seven words.
Go listen to everything Steven Wilson has produced, then.
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1. A song a day isn't really fast. For bands with 3-5 minute songs, 2-3 a day is about normal. 1 DT song a day is probably about right.
2. Why do people think James won't be directed by the rest of the band? Singers usually are when they are recording vocals.
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1. A song a day isn't really fast. For bands with 3-5 minute songs, 2-3 a day is about normal. 1 DT song a day is probably about right.
2. Why do people think James won't be directed by the rest of the band? Singers usually are when they are recording vocals.
I was under the impression that the direction came generally from the producer - hence, Mike and John for the last six albums, Prater on ACoS, etc. I imagine the most likely scenario is that it's just John Petrucci producing the vocals this time around, but it seems a little odd that Rich Chycki would be asked in just to record the vocals, so they might be getting him to help produce it.
It is, absolutely, a big leap to make, and a leap that's based on very little (if any) evidence. But what's speculation if not a trifle ridiculous?
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I just chalk it up to the fact that most people don't really know much about the recording process. Not a big deal, except that's annoying when people talk like they know what should or shouldn't happen when they obviously don't know what the typical practice is.
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Au contraire! I know almost nothing about how it's actually done, but I still know how I think they should and shouldn't do things.
In other words, why should the producer be telling the singer how to sing the lines? The composer, sure, as he had a certain thing in mind when he wrote the song, and in DT's case the writers and producers are the same anyway, but why the producer or recording engineer?
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Au contraire! I know almost nothing about how it's actually done, but I still know how I think they should and shouldn't do things.
In other words, why should the producer be telling the singer how to sing the lines? The composer, sure, as he had a certain thing in mind when he wrote the song, and in DT's case the writers and producers are the same anyway, but why the producer or recording engineer?
That's the producer's job. That's what a producer does - makes creative decisions in order to make the songs as good as possible. It's the musical equivalent of the director.
That or I'm very confused...
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The world gets stranger and stranger every day.
I guess I never really understood what the producer did.
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I hope he brings as much artistic freedom to this next DT album as does on his solo projects. :tup
Me too.Static impulse was WOW for me ;D
Yeah, bigtime. One of the best heavy metal records I own.
Seriously? How many do you own?
Ah forget it . . .
A lot!
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Au contraire! I know almost nothing about how it's actually done, but I still know how I think they should and shouldn't do things.
In other words, why should the producer be telling the singer how to sing the lines? The composer, sure, as he had a certain thing in mind when he wrote the song, and in DT's case the writers and producers are the same anyway, but why the producer or recording engineer?
A producer in music is like a director in film. Musicians write the parts and perform them, the producer channels what the musicians do into a coherent product. Listen to the Awake demos. The songs are 95% writing wise like they are on the album, but the way they're produced completely changes how they feel.
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So the footage of Mike in the studio telling James on how to sing isn't just Mike being the control freak many accuse him of being, it's really just him wearing his producer hat and doing his job as such, right?
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Yep! Basically.
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Whoa.
(https://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Film/Pix/pictures/2009/5/8/1241793515016/Keanu-Reeves-in-Bill-and--001.jpg)
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So the footage of Mike in the studio telling James on how to sing isn't just Mike being the control freak many accuse him of being, it's really just him wearing his producer hat and doing his job as such, right?
Well, it is probably a bit of both :biggrin:
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So the footage of Mike in the studio telling James on how to sing isn't just Mike being the control freak many accuse him of being, it's really just him wearing his producer hat and doing his job as such, right?
Yep, exactly.
Obviously people who actually know and understand these things can still feel that they may not have liked Mike's approach to producing, but he was ultimately just doing his job.
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So the footage of Mike in the studio telling James on how to sing isn't just Mike being the control freak many accuse him of being, it's really just him wearing his producer hat and doing his job as such, right?
Well, it is probably a bit of both :biggrin:
I would think so too, and I don't have a problem with that at all. But aside from that, just as bandmembers, I think Mike, JP, or anyone else should have complete freedom to be able to tell James how they think a line should be delivered or to try it a different way. That's just how it works. I remember when I recorded my first demo, our bass player (who was the most vocal person in our band) had me do a few different lines different ways than how I had originally planned. In a couple of those situations, I hadn't even thought about trying it the way he suggested. We tried it, kept some of his suggestions, and overruled others. That's just the way it goes when you're recording.
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But aside from that, just as bandmembers, I think Mike, JP, or anyone else should have complete freedom to be able to tell James how they think a line should be delivered or to try it a different way.
I agree. But I doubt anyone, except for maybe JP, had any freedom to tell Mike how they think a drum section should be.
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But aside from that, just as bandmembers, I think Mike, JP, or anyone else should have complete freedom to be able to tell James how they think a line should be delivered or to try it a different way.
I agree. But I doubt anyone, except for maybe JP, had any freedom to tell Mike how they think a drum section should be.
Or, in other words, "I imagine the drums were produced exclusively by the producers." q:
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I'm sure it depends on the band. In bands I've been in, we all tended to work out our own parts; I wouldn't tell the drummer, guitarist, or anyone else to do something differently unless it was clearly wrong. But then, that's learning cover songs. It's pretty obvious when what you're playing isn't what's on the record.
When you're working up your own material, there's probably more give and take, and people can suggest different ways of playing/singing something. The only "right" way is what sounds best by consensus or vote, so it really is a matter of others merely suggesting things that might sound better. I hadn't really thought of that before, but it still seems like there's more footage of Mike telling others what to do than anyone else. Part of that is probably because he and JP were the producers and were doing that anyway, and the rest is probably because Mike also edited the footage, therefore we saw more of him than anything else.
I don't want to turn this into Mike-bashing, in fact I was kinda trying to steer it the other way. I've never been in a band that did much original material, and sure as hell have never been in a recording studio. Something tells me I'd be in for a hell of a shock the first time.
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I've mostly only done covers as well. And I guess in that situation, a singer is more likely to get asked to try things differently than the other musicians since a singer isn't going to have the same vocal qualities necessarily as the singer you are covering.
And, yeah, there is more footage of Mike doing that than anyone else. But because Mike is who he is, (1) he probably "directs" more than anyone else, and (2) since he usually has the final say in what gets released, notice that there's usually more footage of him in general than there is of anyone else. :lol
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Hey Everyone.
Finished 3 tracks last week and movin on to the next tomorrow.
Thanks for keeping it positive...for the most part ;-))))
So far we have 4 tracks (3 last week, and at least one tomorrow).
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Hey Everyone.
Finished 3 tracks last week and movin on to the next tomorrow.
Thanks for keeping it positive...for the most part ;-))))
So far we have 4 tracks (3 last week, and at least one tomorrow).
That facebook status is gone now for whatever reason.
I blame you, Jamesman.
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You silly boy (https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=210553722301943&id=100000419500501)
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Nice to see some DTF members leaving comments to that status! :metal
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Au contraire! I know almost nothing about how it's actually done, but I still know how I think they should and shouldn't do things.
In other words, why should the producer be telling the singer how to sing the lines? The composer, sure, as he had a certain thing in mind when he wrote the song, and in DT's case the writers and producers are the same anyway, but why the producer or recording engineer?
That's the producer's job. That's what a producer does - makes creative decisions in order to make the songs as good as possible. It's the musical equivalent of the director.
That or I'm very confused...
As someone producing an album myself...thank you. Not many people are aware of the producer's role or the difference between a producer and an engineer, as well as many things about the tracking and mixing processes.
It's very extensive. Depending on how much time you spend in the studio per day, I wouldn't call 2-3 songs each day unrealistic (if the singer is nailing their takes). But to have one song done, lead, harmonies and all, one per day, I can definitely see why that would be considered fast.
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Okay that status is back now. For some reason it just sort of disappeared for a few hours.
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Okay that status is back now. For some reason it just sort of disappeared for a few hours.
Welcome to Facebook, whose problems always start by going away
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LOL DTF I HAVE A HOSTAGE AND YOU DONT
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Was watching Score yesterday and James singing that Majesty song was bloody great. I realised I missed him doing that highish (technical term) register with plenty of vibrato in DT. The last few records have tended to be a little lower in register without much vibrato. At least that's my impression. Hope he wails a bit more on this record, although he can do little wrong for me. :)
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Was watching Score yesterday and James singing that Majesty song was bloody great. I realised I missed him doing that highish (technical term) register with plenty of vibrato in DT. The last few records have tended to be a little lower in register without much vibrato. At least that's my impression. Hope he wails a bit more on this record, although he can do little wrong for me. :)
With MP and his whole "high-pitched vocals are dated" mindset out of the picture, I'm hoping we'll get glimpses of the old JLB. But I'm not holding my breath, it's likely "modern" vocals are here to stay.
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At least we'll get some good vocal harmonies:
From twitter:
@chadtoney: @Piratecjs we gonna get any James-on-James vocal harmony action in the new tunes? Hope so!
@Piratecjs: @chadtoney
oh yeah you will
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Yep, just finished layering my harmony on JLB's. You could've just asked me mang
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Wondering if JP is there producing vocals or if James will self-produce his vocals. From what it seems, they are in Canada (him and Rich) recording. Rich and James went to the Rush concert at the Copps coliseum or something like that.
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Yep, just finished layering my harmony on JLB's. You could've just asked me mang
That's awesome...or it will be awesome
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At least we'll get some good vocal harmonies:
From twitter:
@chadtoney: @Piratecjs we gonna get any James-on-James vocal harmony action in the new tunes? Hope so!
@Piratecjs: @chadtoney
oh yeah you will
Awwwwwww yeah.
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At least we'll get some good vocal harmonies:
From twitter:
@chadtoney: @Piratecjs we gonna get any James-on-James vocal harmony action in the new tunes? Hope so!
@Piratecjs: @chadtoney
oh yeah you will
Awwwwwww yeah.
That's cool and all, but I'm sure every album has had that.
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I hope we get to hear them counter-melodic vocal sections that DT doesn't do much of. Don't look past me has some of that stuff, and it sounds great :tup
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At least we'll get some good vocal harmonies:
From twitter:
@chadtoney: @Piratecjs we gonna get any James-on-James vocal harmony action in the new tunes? Hope so!
@Piratecjs: @chadtoney
oh yeah you will
Awwwwwww yeah.
That's cool and all, but I'm sure every album has had that.
I think, lately, Portnoy and Petrucci have done the backing harmonies a lot more often than they used to. Presumably so the songs will be a little closer to the studio versions when played live.
I'm certain he's always done at least some of the harmonies, though.
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At least we'll get some good vocal harmonies:
From twitter:
@chadtoney: @Piratecjs we gonna get any James-on-James vocal harmony action in the new tunes? Hope so!
@Piratecjs: @chadtoney
oh yeah you will
Awwwwwww yeah.
That's cool and all, but I'm sure every album has had that.
I think, lately, Portnoy and Petrucci have done the backing harmonies a lot more often than they used to. Presumably so the songs will be a little closer to the studio versions when played live.
I'm certain he's always done at least some of the harmonies, though.
Yeah that was what I meant. So we don't know whether there's going to be more James-on-James harmony, just that there will definitely still be some.
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Hi All,
Sorry I haven't been around, especially since the recent turn of events. Yes, MM is our drummer and we are psyched to begin on this new musical adventure.
Those of you who thought I am in Canada recording my vocals are correct. I am having a blast recording with Rich. We have been doing this recording thing off and on with one another for the last 24 years.
I am heading back into Rich's studio today to begin vocals on the 5th song. Can't wait for everyone to hear the fruits of our labor.
Have a great day and see you around on-line,doing fine.
Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwk.
JLB, from his forum
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Sounds great!
Also, I think the final "Raaa...aaawk" before the album release might get two lines long.
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May be a daft question but who is Rich? :P Is it Chycki?
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May be a daft question but who is Rich? :P
ariich? :justjen
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May be a daft question but who is Rich? :P Is it Chycki?
This https://ww2.richardchycki.com/about
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May be a daft question but who is Rich? :P Is it Chycki?
That's his former Winter Rose bandmate, right?
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Hi All,
Sorry I haven't been around, especially since the recent turn of events. Yes, MM is our drummer and we are psyched to begin on this new musical adventure.
Those of you who thought I am in Canada recording my vocals are correct. I am having a blast recording with Rich. We have been doing this recording thing off and on with one another for the last 24 years.
I am heading back into Rich's studio today to begin vocals on the 5th song. Can't wait for everyone to hear the fruits of our labor.
Have a great day and see you around on-line,doing fine.
Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwk.
JLB, from his forum
Very interesting, and very different from the last few DT albums. I'm sure JP's giving back notes on the recordings, but I really appreciate how the band is trusting JLB to know what he's doing with the vocals and deliver quality.
The recording process for this album, to me, is so much more conducive to producing quality music than the last few. I hope the results live up to that.
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Hi All,
Sorry I haven't been around, especially since the recent turn of events. Yes, MM is our drummer and we are psyched to begin on this new musical adventure.
Those of you who thought I am in Canada recording my vocals are correct. I am having a blast recording with Rich. We have been doing this recording thing off and on with one another for the last 24 years.
I am heading back into Rich's studio today to begin vocals on the 5th song. Can't wait for everyone to hear the fruits of our labor.
Have a great day and see you around on-line,doing fine.
Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwk.
JLB, from his forum
Very interesting, and very different from the last few DT albums. I'm sure JP's giving back notes on the recordings, but I really appreciate how the band is trusting JLB to know what he's doing with the vocals and deliver quality.
The recording process for this album, to me, is so much more conducive to producing quality music than the last few. I hope the results live up to that.
Maybe they listened to how he sounded on the solo album :)
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Just seen on JLB's forum it is indeed Richard Chycki.
May be a daft question but who is Rich? :P Is it Chycki?
That's his former Winter Rose bandmate, right?
Yep
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Maybe they listened to how he sounded on the solo album :)
Yeah. That and the BCSL covers disc, which is so much more compelling vocally than the actual album.
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Maybe they listened to how he sounded on the solo album :)
Yeah. That and the BCSL covers disc, which is so much more compelling vocally than the actual album.
I agree.
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Hi All,
Sorry I haven't been around, especially since the recent turn of events. Yes, MM is our drummer and we are psyched to begin on this new musical adventure.
Those of you who thought I am in Canada recording my vocals are correct. I am having a blast recording with Rich. We have been doing this recording thing off and on with one another for the last 24 years.
I am heading back into Rich's studio today to begin vocals on the 5th song. Can't wait for everyone to hear the fruits of our labor.
Have a great day and see you around on-line,doing fine.
Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwk.
JLB, from his forum
I'm sure JP's giving back notes on the recordings, but I really appreciate how the band is trusting JLB to know what he's doing with the vocals and deliver quality.
You think they do? I didn't fully understand that from the quote (probably just me being dumb), but if it's true, I sure hope so. James composed brilliant vocal lines in the past.
I love how James is taking time between recording of each song. There was quite a gap between the announcements of "just finished 4 tracks" and "I'm now beginning the 5th track".
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THE 5TH SONG. THAT'S THE ONE I SAID WOULD BE THE BEST. Go look at Ricky's sig.
But really, the fact that these songs are recording so often... it tells me there's gonna be a lot of them.
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Maybe they listened to how he sounded on the solo album :)
Yeah. That and the BCSL covers disc, which is so much more compelling vocally than the actual album.
I agree.
I agree as well, but remember that we're talking about two different kinds of vocals here. Covering songs is, in some sense, easier because the melodies and a conception of what listeners expect are already there. A good cover singer will find the right balance between singing the song the way people are used to hearing it and giving it some of his own personality.
With original DT material, the melodies are whatever the writers, producers, and JLB come up with in the end. I personally think that that would be more difficult, and in JLB's case and his situation with DT, is what results in somewhat emotionless presentations. Don't get me wrong; I think his voice is great and still getting better, but it's been a while since something he sang has really given me chills like the early days.
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Well, at least we know there's going to be 5 or more songs! :tup
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Which isn't saying too much; the new album could end up with 6 songs, making it another album with the least amount of songs (tied with SDOIT and BCASL).
I'm hoping for eight or nine songs.
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They took enough time to make album with more than 6 songs. I hope there will be more.
But better 5 good songs than 10 bad :D
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RAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawk
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I hate that because of the whole new drummer conspiracy we get no footage from the studio.
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I'd rather have long-ish multiple tracks like I&W and Awake or even Train of Thought.
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I totally agree with those that have like solo James better than DT James for while now. James performance on the Frameshift album was incredible and better than anything he's done in DT since SFAM. I think BC&SL had some of his most interesting stuff since SFAM, but agree that his sound on the covers was way better. Static Impulse was also awesome. The BC&SL covers makes you realized just how dynamic the guy still is, so I really hope he gets to let loose a little on this album. The songs where he was covering Dio and Freddie Mercury were spectacular, and I'd love to hear more of that type of stuff from him.
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I hate that because of the whole new drummer conspiracy we get no footage from the studio.
I love the use of the word "conspiracy" :lol
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Was watching Score yesterday and James singing that Majesty song was bloody great. I realised I missed him doing that highish (technical term) register with plenty of vibrato in DT. The last few records have tended to be a little lower in register without much vibrato. At least that's my impression. Hope he wails a bit more on this record, although he can do little wrong for me. :)
With MP and his whole "high-pitched vocals are dated" mindset out of the picture, I'm hoping we'll get glimpses of the old JLB. But I'm not holding my breath, it's likely "modern" vocals are here to stay.
If he brings the same vocal set to the new album that he brought to Static Impulse, we're in for a treat.
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Was watching Score yesterday and James singing that Majesty song was bloody great. I realised I missed him doing that highish (technical term) register with plenty of vibrato in DT. The last few records have tended to be a little lower in register without much vibrato. At least that's my impression. Hope he wails a bit more on this record, although he can do little wrong for me. :)
With MP and his whole "high-pitched vocals are dated" mindset out of the picture, I'm hoping we'll get glimpses of the old JLB. But I'm not holding my breath, it's likely "modern" vocals are here to stay.
If he brings the same vocal set to the new album that he brought to Static Impulse, we're in for a treat.
Well I agree. JLB vocals on SI are great... wish it could the same on DT11 ;)
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Just hope after " finished song 5 " the next tweet wont be " Finished the last song "
:facepalm:
Not 6 songs again !!!
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Maybe they listened to how he sounded on the solo album :)
Yeah. That and the BCSL covers disc, which is so much more compelling vocally than the actual album.
Dunno about that, I much prefer the vocals on the album. Probably my favourite vocals from him actually, really powerful and strong. The covers disc is good, but I find it a little too wild and uncontrolled at times.
He sounded amazing on SI as well though, so he's definitely getting it right these days!