Hey guys I've been reading the forums for a while now and a question that I've been wondering at, now that MP is gone, do you think the odds are higher or lower at having a live DVD recorded for the upcoming album's tour. There wasn't one for BCSL and the Chaos in Motion DVD was pretty low quality, IMO, so I think they are due for another Budokan or Score quality DVD.
I guess the wrench that is thrown in is, with MP gone, can we still expect a Score quality release? With a new drummer being thrown in, I can imagine them being hesitant to do a live album right away, especially since MP was pretty involved in creating set lists and organizing tours. With JP at the helm (more so than before), can we expect an HD quality live DVD of the upcoming tour? I sure hope so :)
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I say lower. MP directed and initiated most of the other live recordings/DVDs. And now he's gone. So put two and two together.
I'm sure the band will do their best to get extras like live DVDs out, and I would say that odds are definitely VERY good that we will get live releases at some point. Whether or not we get one for the next tour depends on so many different factors that I wouldn't even speculate as to whether we will get one this time around or somewhere else down the road.
Quote from: BrotherH on February 07, 2011, 02:00:14 PM
Welcome!
I say lower. MP directed and initiated most of the other live recordings/DVDs. And now he's gone. So put two and two together.
MP isn't the only director around. DT can get another (and specialized, just to not say better) director to lead any DVD project. This probably means we won't be getting another Chaos in Motion, which is, I think, a good thing.
He's not even the only director to direct a DT DVD. He didn't direct Budokan, for example, and if memory serves, he didn't direct Tokyo or 5YIAL, either.
If the band wants to do a DVD, they can get a DVD done. MP certainly made it more convenient, but not having him around won't be an impediment.
I think maybe it's not too bad to not have another live DVD for a while. Accrue some new songs, maybe from two albums or so, then release a DVD that really blows you away.
rumborak
Would be complicated, they'd have to blur out the drummer every time he's on screen.
Quote from: rumborak on February 07, 2011, 02:28:22 PM
I think maybe it's not too bad to not have another live DVD for a while. Accrue some new songs, maybe from two albums or so, then release a DVD that really blows you away.
rumborak
While I think that will be the case, I would also love to have some professionally captured performances of James LaBrie's more stable vocal stride. I feel like he's reaching a peak he hasn't reached in years, and I'd hate for him to get too old before they dish out DVDs.
Quote from: BrotherH on February 07, 2011, 02:42:22 PM
Quote from: rumborak on February 07, 2011, 02:28:22 PM
I think maybe it's not too bad to not have another live DVD for a while. Accrue some new songs, maybe from two albums or so, then release a DVD that really blows you away.
rumborak
While I think that will be the case, I would also love to have some professionally captured performances of James LaBrie's more stable vocal stride. I feel like he's reaching a peak he hasn't reached in years, and I'd hate for him to get too old before they dish out DVDs.
That's a good point. They guys are about to hit their 50s, it's not like they're pulling out a massive 4 hour Dream Theater show at 55.
Quote from: rumborak on February 07, 2011, 02:28:22 PM
I think maybe it's not too bad to not have another live DVD for a while. Accrue some new songs, maybe from two albums or so, then release a DVD that really blows you away.
rumborak
True, it would definitely be nice to have a new DVD with all new material and a stunning performance, but if they do release a live DVD for this tour it'll probably be out in the middle of 2012 or so. This means they have all of BCSL and all of the upcoming album to draw from, and perhaps even the odd song that Portnoy didn't want to play and now they want to showcase it on a DVD. I think there will be plenty of material to use by 2012, and hopefully by then the drummer has settled into acceptance by the community and they don't have to hide his face with a black bar :lol
I would be happy if there was never another Chaos in Motion style DVD again, its not a bad DVD but I prefer the Budokan or Score style where it is all one show with a great song selection, and high video quality. I saw DT live in the last Prog Nation tour and most of the songs they played were on Chaos in Motion, except for Count of Tuscany and all that. The only song I wish they hadn't played was Prophets of War but that's another topic... It was a good show and I can see a lot of the BCSL songs being good for a live DVD. I guess only time will tell, we'll see how the next album turns out first.
Most DVD/Blu-ray concert releases are label ideas to get another product on the market during downtime. I would assume RR would probably want to capitalize on DT's rabid fanbase by releasing SOMETHING to document the upcoming tour, as a bridge to yet another album.
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on February 07, 2011, 02:14:12 PM
He's not even the only director to direct a DT DVD. He didn't direct Budokan, for example, and if memory serves, he didn't direct Tokyo or 5YIAL, either.
He has final say on everything on 5yialt i think. he mentions in the commentary that he cut sections out of the live songs to make room for all the crap he wanted on it.
I think chances are good and I would certainly like to have another DVD, I'd love if they brought in the same director that they used on Budokan. Some of the setlist was a little miss for me on Budokan but the the shots and overall quality of the DVD was truly excellent.
DT needs a new DVD now more than ever. I mean, the last one (not counting CIM) was 5 years ago.
Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on February 07, 2011, 02:05:02 PM
Quote from: BrotherH on February 07, 2011, 02:00:14 PM
Welcome!
I say lower. MP directed and initiated most of the other live recordings/DVDs. And now he's gone. So put two and two together.
MP isn't the only director around. DT can get another (and specialized, just to not say better) director to lead any DVD project. This probably means we won't be getting another Chaos in Motion, which is, I think, a good thing.
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It seems like everyone is under the assumption that without Mike in the band anymore, the entire way of life for the band will change. I don't know how difficult something like creating a new setlist really is, but it's hard to imagine that Mike and Mike alone is the only person capable of doing it. Surely J4 (James, John, John and Jordan) can handle it.
Yes, Mike had a lot of influence and control in the band's business dealings, but I'm certain the other guys know enough about how things were going before to be able to pretty much keep a steady course.
Quote from: SeventhSon on February 07, 2011, 06:43:43 PM
Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on February 07, 2011, 02:05:02 PM
Quote from: BrotherH on February 07, 2011, 02:00:14 PM
Welcome!
I say lower. MP directed and initiated most of the other live recordings/DVDs. And now he's gone. So put two and two together.
MP isn't the only director around. DT can get another (and specialized, just to not say better) director to lead any DVD project. This probably means we won't be getting another Chaos in Motion, which is, I think, a good thing.
This.
It seems like everyone is under the assumption that without Mike in the band anymore, the entire way of life for the band will change. I don't know how difficult something like creating a new setlist really is, but it's hard to imagine that Mike and Mike alone is the only person capable of doing it. Surely J4 (James, John, John and Jordan) can handle it.
Yes, Mike had a lot of influence and control in the band's business dealings, but I'm certain the other guys know enough about how things were going before to be able to pretty much keep a steady course.
Right, I was definitely not implying that Mike being gone means the rest of the band is clueless and has no idea what to do next lol. On the other hand, I have a feeling Mike liked to push the label on things to get his way, I doubt Score would have been as awesome if the label had simply wanted a live DVD to keep the brand out there between albums. Score was totally fan service and I might be wrong but I would assume MP had a lot to do with pressuring people to make it happen.
/speculation
JP seems more laid back than MP, but I have confidence in him being able to go bear mode and make things happen when the time comes.
I have every confidence in J4 (I really like that abbreviation, btw :D) to create excellent setlists for their concerts. I'm not sure if they will create individual sets for each and every show, but as long as they change things up a little, that would keep me happy. I also hope Petrucci really puts his foot down about not doing medleys anymore, since I can't stand them and, I've heard, neither can he. Reportedly, he even wrote a song about it once.
As for when they will chose to do another live recording, I'm not sure. They already have six offical live albums/videos, not to mention all the ytsejam stuff. I was actually a bit relieved when I read in an interview from a year ago or so when MP said there would be no live release for the BC tour. I mean, I understand why they did so many live releases in a row (SFAM in it's entirety, playing at the Budokan, 20th anniversary) but by the time they got to Chaos in Motion it was definitely becoming almost comical that there was a live release for every studio release. I'm sure the label would love to have something to throw out there to increase revenue, but with the odd spot DT is in at the moment, particularly with the new drummer, we may have to wait a couple of albums/tours before they do another full-on live release.