Since leaving the band who has been through his alcoholism and supported his decision to remain sober, do you think Portnoy will continue to remain sober? Or, since he has joined a new band with younger musicians and a more alcohol-induced scene, do you think he'll fall off the wagon? Do you think the band members will pressure him?
No way they will pressure him. First of all Portnoy's much older than them, and I don't see MP falling into their pressure even if they do, he's smart and has a family that he loves. Also, if A7X cares enough for MP, they will realize what he has been through with alcohol and respect his decision to stay away from it. I couldn't see MP bringing alcohol back into his life just to make them happy.
You know, I had been wondering the other day whether his "new lifestyle" in A7X hadn't already brought that in. I mean, let's be honest, drinking alcohol is a strictly social activity, and if you're hanging out with those guys (and they're apparently somewhat known for their partying), you will continuously feel like the odd-one out.
I also heard the other day that AA programs are nowhere near as successful as they proclaim they are. Apparently only a small percentage of people stay completely sober over a prolonged amount of time.
rumborak
Quote from: rumborak on December 07, 2010, 12:18:47 PM
You know, I had been wondering the other day whether his "new lifestyle" in A7X hadn't already brought that in. I mean, let's be honest, drinking alcohol is a strictly social activity, and if you're hanging out with those guys (and they're apparently somewhat known for their partying), you will continuously feel like the odd-one out.
I also heard the other day that AA programs are nowhere near as successful as they proclaim they are. Apparently only a small percentage of people stay completely sober over a prolonged amount of time.
rumborak
Rumby you are absolutely correct about AA as a member myself. only about 1 out of 10 actually learn to remain sober for the rest of their lives. Any type of recovery whether it be drugs or alcohol is about relapse, but hopefully the educated addict has learned enough to get the help they need when they do relapse.
Can't see it being a renewed problem myself. I hear that MP has his own tour bus with AX7 - probably to stay away from any beer parties (!). The only thing he is addicted to at the moment is keeping fit!
I actually think it's careless and irresponsible for MP to put himself in a position where he could potentially relapse. I mean, the former AX7 drummer died of a overdose. If anything, you should stay away from this band as a former addict yourself. Playing the drums in the studio for them is one thing, but then agreeing to tour with them was a poor decision on MP's part, in my opinion.
Quote from: Mebert78 on December 07, 2010, 01:53:58 PM
I actually think it's careless and irresponsible for MP to put himself in a position where he could potentially relapse. I mean, the former AX7 drummer died of a overdose. If anything, you should stay away from this band as a former addict yourself. Playing the drums in the studio for them is one thing, but then agreeing to tour with them was a poor decision on MP's part, in my opinion.
As long as he can stay sober, he's fine. He has to have enough insight to know what he can and cannot handle, and seems to be able to handle this just fine.
Mike is 110% committed to his sobriety.
Everyone brings up really interesting points. I, too, wonder if he is that 1 in 10 who will be able to remain sober. However, seeing the extreme of it probably has opened his eyes and IF he were to partake in any alcohol, I'm sure he will now be able to moderate it...hopefully. I think being with DT allowed him to remain sober because these guys were/are his very good friends and have been on the road to recovery with him.
Do you think maybe he will influence A7X and they will tone down the partying? Or will he be the outsider and only be around for the music and not have a bond with them as he has with DT?
If he were to relapse, I would lose all respect for him
Quote from: JayOctavarium on December 07, 2010, 02:38:45 PM
If he were to relapse, I would lose all respect for him
That's a silly thing to say.
Quote from: Mebert78 on December 07, 2010, 01:53:58 PM
I actually think it's careless and irresponsible for MP to put himself in a position where he could potentially relapse. I mean, the former AX7 drummer died of a overdose. If anything, you should stay away from this band as a former addict yourself. Playing the drums in the studio for them is one thing, but then agreeing to tour with them was a poor decision on MP's part, in my opinion.
What? I think he toured with AX7 for bigger reasons than amusing himself. You're saying he should assume he has no strength of character and stay away from anything that would be personally meaningful?
Quote from: oh8wrx on December 07, 2010, 02:24:56 PM
However, seeing the extreme of it probably has opened his eyes and IF he were to partake in any alcohol, I'm sure he will now be able to moderate it...hopefully.
Not how alcoholism works. You're an addict for life and have to stay away.
Quote from: JayOctavarium on December 07, 2010, 02:38:45 PM
If he were to relapse, I would lose all respect for him
Because staying sober is obviously something very easy that doesn't require any personal struggle. Nor does it require a will power that is almost superhuman. If he relapsed, obviously it would be because he decided he didn't care about sobriety anymore and not because the weight of various personal stresses in his life caused him to cave.
Quote from: admin on December 07, 2010, 02:14:47 PM
Mike is 110% committed to his sobriety.
That's the impression I get. I can't imagine him starting to drink again because he decided he was cured and didn't care about being sober again. He seems to have a real understanding of why he needs to stay away from drinking and drugs.
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How is that a silly thing to say? Portnoy has been one of my biggest role models over the past few years.
Quote from: JayOctavarium on December 07, 2010, 02:47:24 PM
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How is that a silly thing to say? Portnoy has been one of my biggest role models over the past few years.
The dude isn't perfect. He has proven this many many many times.
A family friend was an alcoholic and after many years of sobriety, he now is able to have a glass or two of wine and not over do it, so it is possible. It's all in the mind and how much it's worth it I think. And the family friend is in his 60's. Maybe it depends on the person? Dunno?
all i can say is
shit happens
I don't see it happening, but I really wouldn't be surprised if he did. Temptation can get the best of you, and MP has a pretty good record of giving into temptation. No offense intended at all, but it just wouldn't surprise me. I don't care if he's committed 110% to sobriety, we aren't invincible to temptation.
However, with his family growing up and the strong family he has going, I don't think he'll relapse anytime soon
That won't happen. If anything, the death of the rev is like a big warning to the A7X guys. And they have some repect for Mike, I don't see them rush him to drink with them or anything.
Quote from: admin on December 07, 2010, 02:14:47 PM
Mike is 110% committed to his sobriety.
Not really possible.
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Quote from: oh8wrx on December 07, 2010, 03:29:07 PM
A family friend was an alcoholic and after many years of sobriety, he now is able to have a glass or two of wine and not over do it, so it is possible. It's all in the mind and how much it's worth it I think. And the family friend is in his 60's. Maybe it depends on the person? Dunno?
I feel like that is such a rare case though. If Portnoy touched the bottle again, I think there's an overwhelming chance he wouldn't be able to moderate it.
As for the question of whether or not he will relapse...
I don't know. But if I had an alcoholic in my family and he was around alcohol every night, I would be worried.
Quote from: admin on December 07, 2010, 02:14:47 PM
Mike is 110% committed to his sobriety.
Just like Mike would never leave Dream Theater.
rumborak
Quote from: admin on December 07, 2010, 02:14:47 PM
Mike is 110% committed to his sobriety.
I understand why this would be said, but no matter how committed one is there is always the danger of relapsing.
I would say that the A7X-guys have some responsibility too. They are surely aware of his former problems, and for them to behave carelessly around Mike (e.g. by ask him to party with them when there's alcohol and/or drugs involved) would be utterly stupid and douchy, IMO.
No wonder Mike has stopped reading the forums. :sad:
I understand messageboards are for discussion, but this is a really personal battle he will live with for the rest of his life, not saying this would send him over the edge but this intense scrutiny on his every move does nothing to help matters.
Judging by some of the posts, whenever he is mentioned there will always be the negative comments just because Mike left DT, I hope he does come back sooner than later, but in my opinion topics such as this should never have been started, it may not be Mike bashing but why even talk about it.
Not having a go at anyone, as I know if you didn't care you wouldn't post, but I do think MP will return and as deluded as that may be at the current time, it just may happen.
Quote from: lucky7 on December 07, 2010, 06:01:59 PM
but in my opinion topics such as this should never have been started, it may not be Mike bashing but why even talk about it.
It's a discussion forum. We discuss things. Just like you discuss your friend's divorce over a beer in the pub.
And yes, he shouldn't read the forums. Never should have, in fact. Would have saved him a lot of fall-outs with people online.
rumborak
Quote from: JayOctavarium on December 07, 2010, 02:38:45 PM
If he were to relapse, I would lose all respect for him
Why? It is an addiction. Many people have a very difficult time ever really overcoming it completely. And really, you never really overcome it. It is a battle till the day you die.
Quote from: rumborak on December 07, 2010, 05:31:34 PM
Quote from: admin on December 07, 2010, 02:14:47 PM
Mike is 110% committed to his sobriety.
Just like Mike would never leave Dream Theater.
OH SNAP!
And really, I have no doubt that he is committed to it, but a recovering addict can want to fight it with every ounce of their being and still struggle to do so at times.
Quote from: admin on December 07, 2010, 02:14:47 PM
Mike is 110% committed to his sobriety.
That's what I expected.
Quote from: KevShmev on December 07, 2010, 10:40:49 PM
Quote from: rumborak on December 07, 2010, 05:31:34 PM
Quote from: admin on December 07, 2010, 02:14:47 PM
Mike is 110% committed to his sobriety.
Just like Mike would never leave Dream Theater.
OH SNAP!
And really, I have no doubt that he is committed to it, but a recovering addict can want to fight it with every ounce of their being and still struggle to do so at times.
This. While I'm sure Mike is committed, it's silly to think that him simply saying so (or a friend saying so, or a family member saying so, or, in this case, an employee saying so) means that he won't relapse. While I do think it's strange that fans are obsessing over his sobriety, the topic does raise a good point. Most people relapse from rehab not because they aren't "committed" but because they think they're ready to go back into a certain environment or enjoy a few drinks again when they're really not.
Quote from: lucky7 on December 07, 2010, 06:01:59 PM...but in my opinion topics such as this should never have been started, it may not be Mike bashing but why even talk about it.
Obviously, it is a sensitive topic, and one that some may deem inappropriate. I thought about closing the thread for that reason. But Mike has himself been very open and public about his condition, so I see no need to close a thread on the subject provided it stays respectful.
Quote from: bösk1 on December 07, 2010, 11:10:47 PM
Quote from: lucky7 on December 07, 2010, 06:01:59 PM...but in my opinion topics such as this should never have been started, it may not be Mike bashing but why even talk about it.
Obviously, it is a sensitive topic, and one that some may deem inappropriate. I thought about closing the thread for that reason. But Mike has himself been very open and public about his condition, so I see no need to close a thread on the subject provided it stays respectful.
I for one am curious about how Mike's handled his time on the road with A7X. Anyone who's watched
All Excess knows what those guys are like and it'd be interesting to see how things work behind the scenes now, not because I have some sick obsession with Mike Portnoy but just because I'm just getting into A7X and am interested in how the overall band dynamic works. It IS something I'd like to see Mike comment on eventually.
I would be lying if I said when the DT split happened it didn't cross my mind as a possibility but I don't think we have any cause to doubt that he's still sober. i've not seen any horror stories to suggest otherwise.
If he gets through touring with A7X and manages the breakup of "his" band and stays sober, fair play to the man :hefdaddy
If I believed in God my prayers would be with him.
Quote from: oh8wrx on December 07, 2010, 02:24:56 PM
. However, seeing the extreme of it probably has opened his eyes and IF he were to partake in any alcohol, I'm sure he will now be able to moderate it...hopefully.
but this isn't how alcoholism or any addiction works ( for the most part) Alcoholism causes an imbalance in the brain chemistry, by having even one drink the alcoholic is putting not only his sobriety, but his life in jeopardy ( actually the fact that he had one drink technically makes him a non sober person) . With alcohol, whether you have been sober 3 months or 30 years , you can never have another drink, because what happens to the brain is it goes right back to as if you were drinking.
I know because I speak from experience I had one year of sobriety, made the mistake of having a near beer (Non-alcoholic) and ended up back in a rehab within 2 weeks . I have since been sober 7 months and its not easy, being around family functions and holiday parties, where alcohol is served, but I have gained enough knowledge to know that I can never pick up another drink for the rest of my life ( shit I can't even take over the counter cold medicines because a majority contain some form of alcohol)
Rich mentioned Mike has his own bus, which I am sure Mike has to avoid the parties/alcohol that are around. People/places and things are the cornerstone of an alcoholics sobriety avoid them and he should be fine
When I read most of the comments on this page I somehow notice that if Mike ever read this thread he will know for certain that his biggest demon is not himself but the guys with their baseless remarks. Every alcoholic is different. Some make it, some don't. Portnoy is a guy who quit alcohol and tobacco and hasn't (true, as far as I'm aware of -and I mean only the tobacco-) touched it since he made that promise to his grandma.
I haven't been scared of him touching a drink since he joined A7X. He doesn't portray that image to me, at least if you focus on the MP post Awake (or was it during FII?). And you are forgetting that health-wise he is looking better than ever. If I could only imagine what he needs to worry for now -beside his family- it's his technique. The next step for him is to focus on practicing and improving; he overcome his alcoholic issues long ago.
Quote from: emindead on December 08, 2010, 06:53:11 AM
When I read most of the comments on this page I somehow notice that if Mike ever read this thread he will know for certain that his biggest demon is not himself but the guys with their baseless remarks.
That is absolutely the last thing Mike ever needs to hear, though I'm sure people at MP.com say it all the time ::)
I said this[/] thread. Or I'm not following you?
Quote from: emindead on December 08, 2010, 07:05:26 AM
I said this[/] thread. Or I'm not following you?
I'm not sure exactly what you meant, but people posting in this thread are not a bigger problem for Mike's sobriety than, well, anything. People on the internet shouldn't be a concern for Mike at all. Him taking internet commentary so seriously is something he already seems to struggle with.
Quote from: emindead on December 08, 2010, 06:53:11 AM
When I read most of the comments on this page I somehow notice that if Mike ever read this thread he will know for certain that his biggest demon is not himself but the guys with their baseless remarks.
You are kidding, right?
I think Mike should try to not be heavily affected by what strangers have to say, if that's the case.
portnoy is in a mid life crisis so he hangs with young men who party, it's sad really.
Quote from: zerogravityfat on December 08, 2010, 09:36:03 AM
portnoy is in a mid life crisis so he hangs with young men who party, it's sad really.
Idk if it's that. I just think MP has become a different kind of rock-and-roll guy than the others in DT. Just look at how loaded he has become with tattoos, for example. The other DT guys don't have any. Not that tattoos are a big deal these days, but it's a small indicator of how his character and interests have drifted from the other DT guys. Then there's the colored beard. For the most part, prog guys are considered nerdy and boring. He's more of a "metal" guy now image-wise and fits in better with metal guys.
But apart from that, I think it would have been smart for him to steer clear of AX7 in particular just because of their past drug issues. It just doesn't seem like a smart decision to unnecessarily surround yourself with those kinds of people when you've had a past problem yourself -- and you've spent the past five DT albums writing lyrics about it.
Also, I feel that by writing so many lyrics about his alcoholism battle that MP has made it an issue to be discussed by fans.
Quote from: KevShmev on December 08, 2010, 08:54:21 AM
Quote from: emindead on December 08, 2010, 06:53:11 AM
When I read most of the comments on this page I somehow notice that if Mike ever read this thread he will know for certain that his biggest demon is not himself but the guys with their baseless remarks.
You are kidding, right?
Not quite. Most of the comments here are saying that he's an inch away (hyperbole) of relapsing. Apparently fans don't know a thing about him if they are still thinking he's going to have a drink again.
Quote from: Perpetual Change on December 07, 2010, 11:15:50 PM
I for one am curious about how Mike's handled his time on the road with A7X. Anyone who's watched All Excess knows what those guys are like and it'd be interesting to see how things work behind the scenes now, not because I have some sick obsession with Mike Portnoy but just because I'm just getting into A7X and am interested in how the overall band dynamic works. It IS something I'd like to see Mike comment on eventually.
All Excess was before The Rev died, wasn't it? Do we even know if they still party and drink that much anymore? I would have thought something like a death from OD'ing would make them a little more careful.
Quote from: ariich on December 08, 2010, 11:21:03 AM
Quote from: Perpetual Change on December 07, 2010, 11:15:50 PM
I for one am curious about how Mike's handled his time on the road with A7X. Anyone who's watched All Excess knows what those guys are like and it'd be interesting to see how things work behind the scenes now, not because I have some sick obsession with Mike Portnoy but just because I'm just getting into A7X and am interested in how the overall band dynamic works. It IS something I'd like to see Mike comment on eventually.
All Excess was before The Rev died, wasn't it? Do we even know if they still party and drink that much anymore? I would have thought something like a death from OD'ing would make them a little more careful.
Oddly enough that rarely does the job. Usually the pain of the death causes the people to consume more drugs/alcohol. After all, these are people who already did tons of them anyway, it's a pretty immediate and familiar way to numb the pain.
Not always the case, but often enough.
A death generally, yes. But when it is a death directly relating to drugs and alcohol, I can't see it happening.
Quote from: ariich on December 08, 2010, 11:36:47 AM
A death generally, yes. But when it is a death directly relating to drugs and alcohol, I can't see it happening.
You'd think so, but never underestimate the power of addiction. My aunt passed away from lung cancer as a result of smoking over 20 years ago, and to this day, three of my cousins, her kids, still smoke cigarettes.
Quote from: emindead on December 08, 2010, 10:13:52 AM
Quote from: KevShmev on December 08, 2010, 08:54:21 AM
Quote from: emindead on December 08, 2010, 06:53:11 AM
When I read most of the comments on this page I somehow notice that if Mike ever read this thread he will know for certain that his biggest demon is not himself but the guys with their baseless remarks.
You are kidding, right?
Not quite. Most of the comments here are saying that he's an inch away (hyperbole) of relapsing. Apparently fans don't know a thing about him if they are still thinking he's going to have a drink again.
So, how exactly does that make fans his biggest demon, then? Is he gonna start drinking again because some fans talk about it?
Quote from: KevShmev on December 08, 2010, 12:03:01 PM
Quote from: ariich on December 08, 2010, 11:36:47 AM
A death generally, yes. But when it is a death directly relating to drugs and alcohol, I can't see it happening.
You'd think so, but never underestimate the power of addiction. My aunt passed away from lung cancer as a result of smoking over 20 years ago, and to this day, three of my cousins, her kids, still smoke cigarettes.
Oh I'm not underestimating the power of addiction, but I wasn't aware that any of the A7X guys had an addiction problem?
Quote from: ariich on December 08, 2010, 12:08:35 PM
Quote from: KevShmev on December 08, 2010, 12:03:01 PM
Quote from: ariich on December 08, 2010, 11:36:47 AM
A death generally, yes. But when it is a death directly relating to drugs and alcohol, I can't see it happening.
You'd think so, but never underestimate the power of addiction. My aunt passed away from lung cancer as a result of smoking over 20 years ago, and to this day, three of my cousins, her kids, still smoke cigarettes.
Oh I'm not underestimating the power of addiction, but I wasn't aware that any of the A7X guys had an addiction problem?
I don't think its about the guys in A7X having addiction problems, but they have indulged in huge amounts of alcohol and drugs, and yes it does numb the pain of losing someone close. Not everyone who partys hard is an addict, some can handle it, some cannot, which is what baffles doctors when they look at addictions, that no 2 people are exactly alike.
Quote from: ariich on December 08, 2010, 12:08:35 PM
Quote from: KevShmev on December 08, 2010, 12:03:01 PM
Quote from: ariich on December 08, 2010, 11:36:47 AM
A death generally, yes. But when it is a death directly relating to drugs and alcohol, I can't see it happening.
You'd think so, but never underestimate the power of addiction. My aunt passed away from lung cancer as a result of smoking over 20 years ago, and to this day, three of my cousins, her kids, still smoke cigarettes.
Oh I'm not underestimating the power of addiction, but I wasn't aware that any of the A7X guys had an addiction problem?
No, but Portnoy does, and this is pure speculation, but if those guys are still drinking a lot, it can make it difficult for him to resist those urges. It's like when people who are trying to quit smoking say how much more difficult it is to quit or even not start again if they are around people who are always smoking.
Quote from: KevShmev on December 08, 2010, 12:24:04 PM
Quote from: ariich on December 08, 2010, 12:08:35 PM
Quote from: KevShmev on December 08, 2010, 12:03:01 PM
Quote from: ariich on December 08, 2010, 11:36:47 AM
A death generally, yes. But when it is a death directly relating to drugs and alcohol, I can't see it happening.
You'd think so, but never underestimate the power of addiction. My aunt passed away from lung cancer as a result of smoking over 20 years ago, and to this day, three of my cousins, her kids, still smoke cigarettes.
Oh I'm not underestimating the power of addiction, but I wasn't aware that any of the A7X guys had an addiction problem?
No, but Portnoy does, and this is pure speculation, but if those guys are still drinking a lot, it can make it difficult for him to resist those urges. It's like when people who are trying to quit smoking say how much more difficult it is to quit or even not start again if they are around people who are always smoking.
I know, but I was questioning whether the band still drink a lot. Hence my post where I questioned whether the band still drink a lot. :P
No, you asked if they had an addiction problem. Just because someone drinks a lot doesn't mean that they are addicted, ya know. ;)
Quote from: KevShmev on December 08, 2010, 12:38:07 PM
No, you asked if they had an addiction problem.
No I didn't:
Quote from: ariich on December 08, 2010, 11:21:03 AM
Quote from: Perpetual Change on December 07, 2010, 11:15:50 PM
I for one am curious about how Mike's handled his time on the road with A7X. Anyone who's watched All Excess knows what those guys are like and it'd be interesting to see how things work behind the scenes now, not because I have some sick obsession with Mike Portnoy but just because I'm just getting into A7X and am interested in how the overall band dynamic works. It IS something I'd like to see Mike comment on eventually.
All Excess was before The Rev died, wasn't it? Do we even know if they still party and drink that much anymore? I would have thought something like a death from OD'ing would make them a little more careful.
:lol
Ariich, if you only knew the power of the dark side...
But fear leads to hate...
Quote from: ariich on December 08, 2010, 01:09:51 PM
But fear leads to hate...
Fear can turn to love, you'll learn to see to find the man behind the monster...
Quote from: Rina on December 08, 2010, 01:57:03 PM
Quote from: ariich on December 08, 2010, 01:09:51 PM
But fear leads to hate...
Fear can turn to love, you'll learn to see to find the man behind the monster...
WRONG FILM!
@Rina:
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Rina, you've just been Rina'd.
Quote from: ariich on December 08, 2010, 02:06:32 PM
Quote from: Rina on December 08, 2010, 01:57:03 PM
Quote from: ariich on December 08, 2010, 01:09:51 PM
But fear leads to hate...
Fear can turn to love, you'll learn to see to find the man behind the monster...
WRONG FILM!
BETTER WORDS!!!
@ Bosk: OH, GOD, HOW'D I END UP IN HERE????!?!??! :dangerwillrobinson:
Quote from: ariich on December 08, 2010, 11:21:03 AM
Quote from: Perpetual Change on December 07, 2010, 11:15:50 PM
I for one am curious about how Mike's handled his time on the road with A7X. Anyone who's watched All Excess knows what those guys are like and it'd be interesting to see how things work behind the scenes now, not because I have some sick obsession with Mike Portnoy but just because I'm just getting into A7X and am interested in how the overall band dynamic works. It IS something I'd like to see Mike comment on eventually.
All Excess was before The Rev died, wasn't it? Do we even know if they still party and drink that much anymore? I would have thought something like a death from OD'ing would make them a little more careful.
I don't have source, so you'll just have to trust my memory which can be VERY faulty. But, as far as I know, they were scared to drink at first and then decided to start again as early as the funeral. Also, it'd be silly for them not too. I don't think drinking is a problem for those guys. For the Rev, it was kind of obvious that he, like Mike, had some other issues that made drinking much worse for him.
MP will not crack. He has too many people on the web that look up to him.
Quote from: rumborak on December 07, 2010, 12:18:47 PM
drinking alcohol is a strictly social activity.
That's not entirely true. Especially for alcoholics. They have more of a tendency to fall off the wagon in a non social setting because in social settings they are keeping up appearances. I have a younger brother who is a recovered alcoholic, so I do know what I'm talking about.
Quote from: Dublagent66 on December 09, 2010, 10:28:51 AM
Quote from: rumborak on December 07, 2010, 12:18:47 PM
drinking alcohol is a strictly social activity.
That's not entirely true. Especially for alcoholics. They have more of a tendency to fall off the wagon in a non social setting because in social settings they are keeping up appearances. I have a younger brother who is a recovered alcoholic, so I do know what I'm talking about.
Your right about the alcoholic and drinking, I myself used to have one or two socially, but than go home and knock of a 1.75 by myself, but what makes it hard for the alcoholic is that alcohol is "socially/legally acceptable" and putting yourself in those settings/situations is tempting fate.
Quote from: Chino on December 08, 2010, 08:30:41 PM
MP will not crack. He has too many people on the web that look up to him.
Errrr ... I don't think you understand addiction. At all.
rumborak
Quote from: rumborak on December 09, 2010, 03:38:22 PM
Quote from: Chino on December 08, 2010, 08:30:41 PM
MP will not crack. He has too many people on the web that look up to him.
Errrr ... I don't think you understand addiction. At all.
rumborak
Seriously. :lol In this thread, we have people who view the world with rose colored glasses.
And MP has stated, and I quote, "I don't believe I wear rose-colored glasses."
Quote from: bösk1 on December 09, 2010, 04:11:59 PM
And MP has stated, and I quote, "I don't believe I wear rose-colored glasses."
:lol
Quote from: rumborak on December 09, 2010, 03:38:22 PM
Quote from: Chino on December 08, 2010, 08:30:41 PM
MP will not crack. He has too many people on the web that look up to him.
Errrr ... I don't think you understand addiction. At all.
rumborak
Yeah, people give up their kids, wives, husbands, parents, etc for addiction. I highly down the web-fan base which Portnoy willingly turns on all the time is going to be the thing that either keeps him on the straight and narrow or pushes him over the edge.
Quote from: rumborak on December 09, 2010, 03:38:22 PM
Quote from: Chino on December 08, 2010, 08:30:41 PM
MP will not crack. He has too many people on the web that look up to him.
Errrr ... I don't think you understand addiction. At all.
rumborak
Are we sure that post wasn't a joke?