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Title: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: LTE777 on October 09, 2010, 12:15:17 AM
Been a fan of Symphony X for a long time but just recently got into the other bands above.  I would have put in POS & Opeth but they are gaining a lot of popularity these days!

Honorable mentions:
Ark - Burn the Sun
Frameshift
Dragonforce - haha, just joking!
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: pogoowner on October 09, 2010, 12:20:56 AM
Out of those choices, it's Redemption, easily.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: Phantasmatron on October 09, 2010, 12:42:22 AM
Out of those choices, it's Redemption, easily.

This.  Although Vanden Plas kicks ass and Symphony X is cool.  But this is far from an exhaustive list.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: ThroughHerEyesDude6 on October 09, 2010, 12:56:36 AM
Just got into Threshold and man have I been missing out.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: yeshaberto on October 09, 2010, 01:05:36 AM
redemption by a mile, followed by SX
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: HarlequinForest on October 09, 2010, 01:49:33 AM
Out of those choices, it's Symphony X, easily.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: Zantera on October 09, 2010, 02:23:49 AM
Out of those choices, it's Threshold, easily.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: Zydar on October 09, 2010, 02:33:27 AM
Symphony X
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: Perpetual Change on October 09, 2010, 02:36:35 AM
HAKEN
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: ThroughHerEyesDude6 on October 09, 2010, 05:04:55 AM
I would have put in POS

Seriously, what is so great about Pain of Salvation? I hear about them so much on this forum.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: Odysseus on October 09, 2010, 05:37:38 AM
Symphony X by a country mile.  I love that band!  I must check out Redemption though, as I haven't heard any yet.  Can anyone recommend what I should listen to first?

I would have put in POS

Seriously, what is so great about Pain of Salvation? I hear about them so much on this forum.

I sort of like PoS, but I have to be in the right frame of mind - they're a little too morose for my usual tastes.  Mind you, people say the same about Evergrey, but I like much of their stuff... but I do hear that the last couple of albums are very very similar..... In Search of Truth was excellent though....
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: wolfking on October 09, 2010, 06:10:54 AM
Hard choice between SX and Redemption.  I think I'll go with SX, just.

Theshold wouldn't be far behind those two.  Underrated prog band, if anyway doesn't know them, you should really check them out.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: wolfking on October 09, 2010, 06:12:18 AM
Another decent prog band that gets no recognition is Sieges Even.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: glaurung on October 09, 2010, 06:12:45 AM
Most of those bands get plenty of recognition. But out of those options I'd pick SX.

Now if we're talking about newly emerging prog bands my pick would have to go to Tetrafusion (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTGxqe1nnNk).
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 09, 2010, 06:16:36 AM
Out of those choices, it's Redemption, easily.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: Nick on October 09, 2010, 07:34:43 AM
Redemption for me.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on October 09, 2010, 07:37:53 AM
Definitely Symphony X


LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVE WITH SHADOWS AND FEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARS BEHIND SMOKE AND MIRRORS :metal
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: Sigz on October 09, 2010, 08:12:45 AM
None of them are particularly good, but I guess Redemption.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: Aniland on October 09, 2010, 08:13:40 AM
Not a fan of Symphony X or Redemption as all. Threshold is pretty good, but I hit other so I could say Cloudscape. :)
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: Dr. DTVT on October 09, 2010, 08:36:05 AM
Symphony X gets a hell lot of recognition...and Redemption has a fairly large following around these parts as well.

Threshold has been around for 18 years, and I think the reason they aren't being discussed much is because it's been a while since they released an album coupled with the fact their most recent album is arguably their weakest effort.

And there is a large swathe of users here who will mock your love of Vanden Plas.  I'm not one of them, but poor Norwood got killed in his Vanden Plas thread.

Bitching about the thread title aside, I rank them Redemption first, Threshold & Sy X tied, and Vanden Plas last because I've never gotten into them.

Now, if you want to talk about criminally overlooked bands that do not have a lot of recognition, here's a list for you:

Arena
Royal Hunt
Enchant
Henning Pauly / Frameshift / Chain
Tiles

and that's just off the top of my head.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: Perpetual Change on October 09, 2010, 08:37:24 AM
Seriously guys, Haken.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: Bombardana on October 09, 2010, 08:49:08 AM
Symphony X is the best those.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: MetalManiac666 on October 09, 2010, 09:15:22 AM
Most of those bands get plenty of recognition.

This.

Animals as Leaders for me.  Though they're less "prog" and more "progressive."
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: LudwigVan on October 09, 2010, 09:33:03 AM
Hard choice between SX and Redemption.  I think I'll go with SX, just.


I'm in this boat.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: Gadough on October 09, 2010, 11:43:44 AM
I would vote Symphony X, but that's not fair because I've never heard of Threshold.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: Seventh Son on October 09, 2010, 11:46:01 AM
Other.

John Arch-era Fates Warning or Into the Woods... would have to take it. Not a fan of the other bands.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: In The Wake Of Poseidon on October 09, 2010, 01:04:01 PM
Symphony X made Rediscovery pt. 2, they win.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: Zook on October 09, 2010, 02:23:43 PM
It's a battle between Symphony X and Redemption.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: SoundscapeMN on October 09, 2010, 02:40:34 PM
Soundscape (two 5-star records)
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: Zook on October 09, 2010, 03:15:53 PM
What do Soundscape sound like? I can't watch youtube videos or listen on Myspace.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: NecessaryPain on October 09, 2010, 06:42:23 PM
SX are on the same level as DT as far as i'm concerned.

Absolutely love the band. Can't wait for the new album.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: wolfking on October 09, 2010, 07:01:18 PM
Threshold has been around for 18 years, and I think the reason they aren't being discussed much is because it's been a while since they released an album coupled with the fact their most recent album is arguably their weakest effort.

I haven't heard all their albums but Dead Reckoning was okay.  They went for a more modern approach and on some songs it worked, but IMO they lost a bit of their sound.  Although Pilot is one of their best songs.  But it doesn't have songs like Eat the Unicorn, Exposed, Mission Profile, Pressure, Oceanbound, Tension of Souls etc.

Extinct Instinct is one amazing album, and I much prefer Damian Wilson over Mac.  They are still a very underrated band.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: Seventh Son on October 09, 2010, 07:01:40 PM
I've tried getting into Symphony X but I just couldn't do it.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: wolfking on October 09, 2010, 07:11:06 PM
I've tried getting into Symphony X but I just couldn't do it.

Try harder.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: DarkEternalNight on October 09, 2010, 07:12:21 PM
Solution .45. Their debut album is one of my favorites of all-time.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: Seventh Son on October 09, 2010, 07:13:36 PM
I've tried getting into Symphony X but I just couldn't do it.

Try harder.
But I'm lactose intolerant! :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: wolfking on October 09, 2010, 07:15:01 PM
Solution .45. Their debut album is one of my favorites of all-time.

Yeah, the lack of love for this album makes me sad.  One of the top 5 albums this year.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: DarkEternalNight on October 09, 2010, 07:26:02 PM
Christian is such an underrated singer. I found out that they're writing new material fairly soon :D
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on October 09, 2010, 07:26:32 PM
I've tried getting into Symphony X but I just couldn't do it.

Try harder.
But I'm lactose intolerant! :neverusethis:

What have you heard?
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: Seventh Son on October 09, 2010, 07:28:38 PM
I've tried getting into Symphony X but I just couldn't do it.

Try harder.
But I'm lactose intolerant! :neverusethis:

What have you heard?
Divine Wings of Tragedy/The Odyssey.

I can get why someone would dig them but I can't listen to Allen's vocals for that long. Sorry  :| I don't really like prog metal that much though....
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on October 09, 2010, 07:30:18 PM
I recommend some of his less harsh vocals: listen to The Damnation Game
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: wolfking on October 09, 2010, 08:01:50 PM
I've tried getting into Symphony X but I just couldn't do it.

Try harder.
But I'm lactose intolerant! :neverusethis:

What have you heard?
Divine Wings of Tragedy/The Odyssey.

I can get why someone would dig them but I can't listen to Allen's vocals for that long. Sorry  :| I don't really like prog metal that much though....

I was like that at the start, for some reason I just couldn't stand his vocals, I don't remember why but I couldn't.  One day it just clicked and now I think he is one of the best singers around today.

I think it was actually the Russell Allen/Jorn Lande albums that really made me appriciate his voice, give them a go, it's more melodic and even AOR but great songs, solos and vocals.  It gives you a different perspective on his voice than SX.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: wolfking on October 09, 2010, 08:03:08 PM
Christian is such an underrated singer. I found out that they're writing new material fairly soon :D

That's the best news I've heard all day.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: Odysseus on October 10, 2010, 04:13:46 AM
I really like Shadow Gallery too... I already got 2 albums and I just ordered Room V purely on hearing the track 'Rain' via Youtube.  Great stuff!
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: AwakeFromOctavarium on October 10, 2010, 06:41:23 AM
I haven't heard all of them except for Symphony X, so yeah.

Shadow Gallery is amazing too.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on October 10, 2010, 08:30:51 AM
Heard all of them, like all of them. But my favourite non-DT prog metal band has to be Psychotic Waltz.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on October 10, 2010, 08:32:14 AM
Another decent prog band that gets no recognition is Sieges Even.
Yes! Sieges Even is awesome.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: SoundscapeMN on October 10, 2010, 04:27:59 PM
What do Soundscape sound like? I can't watch youtube videos or listen on Myspace.

Can you listen online with anything?

they're a bit like Fates Warning, but at times they use a lot of heavy, fat-synths.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on October 10, 2010, 05:15:39 PM
Pretty much, all of the bands mentioned are some of the most recognized in the scene right now.  They're also all VERY typical, cookie cutter prog, I think. 

I feel like Fates Warning deserves at least a little more love for at least being a little more adventurous and less typical than other progressive metal bands. 
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: Volk9 on October 10, 2010, 05:24:13 PM
Out of those choices, it's Symphony X, easily.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: pogoowner on October 10, 2010, 05:42:53 PM
Out of those choices, it's Symphony X, easily.
Before anyone mistakes me for some kind of Symphony X fan, I'd just like to point out that I never said that. :P
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on October 10, 2010, 05:48:46 PM
I don't really like Symphony X much, but compared to the other choices I really have to go with them. 
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: Dr. DTVT on October 10, 2010, 08:36:21 PM
they're a bit like Fates Warning, but at times they use a lot of heavy, fat-synths.


What era FW?  Either way, I'm probably sold.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: SoundscapeMN on October 10, 2010, 08:53:43 PM
they're a bit like Fates Warning, but at times they use a lot of heavy, fat-synths.


What era FW?  Either way, I'm probably sold.

hmm, I suppose the closest would be records like Perfect Symmetry and Parallels, but they actually covered "Fata Morgana" on a Fates Warning tribute album, adding touches of keyboards to it in fact.

I mean they also could compare to bands like Marillion, Enchant, Kansas, Queensryche, and even Rush at times. They sort of tip-toe the line between prog and hard rock at times.

They released 2 albums (both clocking in at close to 80 minutes)

1997 Discovery
2009 Grave New World

https://www.cdbaby.com/Artist/Soundscape1
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on October 10, 2010, 09:14:36 PM
Out of those choices, it's Symphony X, easily.
Before anyone mistakes me for some kind of Symphony X fan, I'd just like to point out that I never said that. :P

Nothing wrong with being a Symphony X fan :P
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: SoundscapeMN on October 10, 2010, 11:59:54 PM
I would also add I find Superior LIGHT YEARS better and more interesting than all the bands on this list.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: kala1928 on October 11, 2010, 03:56:05 AM
has to be..

Symphony X

Off the choices, Symphony X is beyond anything else really, recognition-wise too, so having them in the mix is a little unfair thb :) But they still get my vote, since the other bands are little too inconsistent to get the vote.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: wkiml on October 11, 2010, 02:44:22 PM
Redemption hands down for me


I've tried getting into Symphony X but I just couldn't do it.

This... the production on the albums always seems so thin to me and sorry not into Yngwie clones  ...let the flame war begin
Other.

John Arch-era Fates Warning or Into the Woods... would have to take it. Not a fan of the other bands.

John Arch Era Fates is what got me into Prog-Metal....Ray is great, but it was John that I always go back to


Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on October 11, 2010, 02:47:12 PM
I didn't like John Arch.  Very typical speed metal falsetto screaming.  For the direction they would take, I think they really needed a singer with a lot more substance and versatility.  They found it  :)
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: wolfking on October 11, 2010, 03:03:52 PM
I've tried getting into Symphony X but I just couldn't do it.
sorry not into Yngwie clones  ...let the flame war begin


You obviously haven't listened to them very much.  Romeo is not a Yngwie clone.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: Seventh Son on October 11, 2010, 03:06:19 PM
I didn't like John Arch.  Very typical speed metal falsetto screaming.  For the direction they would take, I think they really needed a singer with a lot more substance and versatility.  They found it  :)

Ray era FW just doesn't have the magic or power that John era FW did. And JA definitely fit that kind of Fates Warning to perfection imo

Sad that no one seems to know Into the Woods... though  :(
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: Ravenheart on October 11, 2010, 03:19:10 PM
Evergrey!  :hat
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: wkiml on October 11, 2010, 05:47:43 PM
I've tried getting into Symphony X but I just couldn't do it.
sorry not into Yngwie clones  ...let the flame war begin


You obviously haven't listened to them very much.  Romeo is not a Yngwie clone.


Saw a lot of talk of them...listened to a couple of albums (Wings/Twilight and V) and actually bought the live album, they honestly did nothing for me. Having grown up during the Shrapnel Years ( MacAlpine/Moore/Friedman/Becker) Romeo brought nothing new to the table that 100's of other guitarists weren't already doing
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: SoundscapeMN on October 11, 2010, 08:07:05 PM
I didn't like John Arch.  Very typical speed metal falsetto screaming.  For the direction they would take, I think they really needed a singer with a lot more substance and versatility.  They found it  :)

have you heard A Twist of Fate, John Arch's EP? or even for that matter, those auditions he did for Dream Theater.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: wolfking on October 12, 2010, 05:16:01 AM
Evergrey!  :hat

How could I forget Evergrey.  In Search For Truth and Recreation Day are two of the best prog metal albums ever.  A truly amazing band.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: wolfking on October 12, 2010, 05:17:30 AM
I've tried getting into Symphony X but I just couldn't do it.
sorry not into Yngwie clones  ...let the flame war begin


You obviously haven't listened to them very much.  Romeo is not a Yngwie clone.


Saw a lot of talk of them...listened to a couple of albums (Wings/Twilight and V) and actually bought the live album, they honestly did nothing for me. Having grown up during the Shrapnel Years ( MacAlpine/Moore/Friedman/Becker) Romeo brought nothing new to the table that 100's of other guitarists weren't already doing

Fuck man, those four are like the big four of shred guitar IMO.  Macalpine, Moore and Becker were soooooo underrated.  Shame about Becker, he truly was gifted.  Macalpine might be my favourite solo instrumental guitar player, his albums and songs are truly amazing.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: wkiml on October 12, 2010, 10:41:27 AM

[/quote]

Ray era FW just doesn't have the magic or power that John era FW did. And JA definitely fit that kind of Fates Warning to perfection imo

Sad that no one seems to know Into the Woods... though  :(
[/quote]

Any links for "Into the Woods"?
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: Seventh Son on October 12, 2010, 11:20:05 AM


Ray era FW just doesn't have the magic or power that John era FW did. And JA definitely fit that kind of Fates Warning to perfection imo

Sad that no one seems to know Into the Woods... though  :(
Any links for "Into the Woods"?

Misspelled it before lol, its "In the Woods..." (The ellipse is part of their name for some reason)

I'd recommend just getting the entire album "Heart of the Ages".

In The Woods... - Yearning the seeds of a new dimension

Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QydUu2uAhYU
Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oe_HxN9wi0&feature=related

Its got some harsh vocals and junk, but this song is an absolute masterpiece as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: setrataeso on October 12, 2010, 11:40:03 AM
While I think Redemption is a much more intelligent band, Symphony X still trumps them, imo.
However, the next Redemption album, whenever it comes out, could be the killer album that rockets Redemption way up in my rankings.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: LudwigVan on October 12, 2010, 11:47:58 AM

I feel like Fates Warning deserves at least a little more love for at least being a little more adventurous and less typical than other progressive metal bands.  

Absolutamente!

I've tried getting into Symphony X but I just couldn't do it.
sorry not into Yngwie clones  ...let the flame war begin


You obviously haven't listened to them very much.  Romeo is not a Yngwie clone.

While Romeo might not be an exact Yngwie clone, Symphony X's music is basically an extension of the neo-classical metal style that Malmsteen made his name from.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: Bombardana on October 12, 2010, 12:38:55 PM

I feel like Fates Warning deserves at least a little more love for at least being a little more adventurous and less typical than other progressive metal bands.  

Absolutamente!

I've tried getting into Symphony X but I just couldn't do it.
sorry not into Yngwie clones  ...let the flame war begin


You obviously haven't listened to them very much.  Romeo is not a Yngwie clone.

While Romeo might not be an exact Yngwie clone, Symphony X's music is basically an extension of the neo-classical metal style that Malmsteen made his name from.
Malmsteen started Neoclassical metal. Symphony X perfected it.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: Odysseus on October 12, 2010, 01:41:39 PM
Saw a lot of talk of them...listened to a couple of albums (Wings/Twilight and V) and actually bought the live album, they honestly did nothing for me. Having grown up during the Shrapnel Years ( MacAlpine/Moore/Friedman/Becker) Romeo brought nothing new to the table that 100's of other guitarists weren't already doing

I have to disagree with some of that, purely on a subjective level.  While I grew up with much of the Shrapnel stuff, I think Symphony X brought a superior product to the party in terms of composition and the whole craft of songwriting.  The likes of Tony MacAlpine and Vinnie Moore etc were and are fantastic instrumentalists, but they lacked the ability to translate their craft in songwriting, which is how I like my playing.  Yes, maybe that wasn't their aim, and that point would certainly be valid, but I have to say that SX did it for me with their ability to create songs and soundscapes that took me on a journey, rather than 3 minutes of guitar wizardry over Usain Bolt's bass-drums (yes, I jest!)  But that's just my taste. 'Vive la difference', as they say next door.

I used to like Malmsteen but he lost the ability to write a decent song IMO round about 1988.  Absolutely cracking techinique and presence, but why oh why does he have to solo through everything live?  :-\  I still play his early stuff regularly though!  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: Gorille85 on October 12, 2010, 01:43:05 PM
I only know Symphony X out of those choices. So yeah, that.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: wolfking on October 12, 2010, 02:31:12 PM
I've tried getting into Symphony X but I just couldn't do it.
sorry not into Yngwie clones  ...let the flame war begin


You obviously haven't listened to them very much.  Romeo is not a Yngwie clone.

While Romeo might not be an exact Yngwie clone, Symphony X's music is basically an extension of the neo-classical metal style that Malmsteen made his name from.

I somewhat agree, but that still doesn't mean Romeo is a Malmsteen clone.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: ThroughHerEyesDude6 on October 12, 2010, 04:42:11 PM
Quick Q: Even if you've never heard the band, does that mean you have to vote for someone you think deserves it, or can it also be someone from the list you have never heard of? The assumption is that if you've never heard of them, then maybe they deserve to be recognized more often.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: Seventh Son on October 12, 2010, 04:45:36 PM
Quick Q: Even if you've never heard the band, does that mean you have to vote for someone you think deserves it, or can it also be someone from the list you have never heard of? The assumption is that if you've never heard of them, then maybe they deserve to be recognized more often.
Well, its all subjective. I don't really like any of the bands in the poll at all, but I think In The Woods... is absolutely amazing and deserves a million times the recognition that they get. But whatever floats your boat.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: ThroughHerEyesDude6 on October 12, 2010, 04:48:10 PM
Quick Q: Even if you've never heard the band, does that mean you have to vote for someone you think deserves it, or can it also be someone from the list you have never heard of? The assumption is that if you've never heard of them, then maybe they deserve to be recognized more often.
Well, its all subjective. I don't really like any of the bands in the poll at all, but I think In The Woods... is absolutely amazing and deserves a million times the recognition that they get. But whatever floats your boat.
Well, I've heard at least one song from each of them, but with everything I hear about Symphony X, I wouldn't vote for them, despite the fact I think they're awesome. But hey, you said it best. Thanks for the answer 7thSOn.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: wkiml on October 12, 2010, 04:55:36 PM
Saw a lot of talk of them...listened to a couple of albums (Wings/Twilight and V) and actually bought the live album, they honestly did nothing for me. Having grown up during the Shrapnel Years ( MacAlpine/Moore/Friedman/Becker) Romeo brought nothing new to the table that 100's of other guitarists weren't already doing

I have to disagree with some of that, purely on a subjective level.  While I grew up with much of the Shrapnel stuff, I think Symphony X brought a superior product to the party in terms of composition and the whole craft of songwriting.  The likes of Tony MacAlpine and Vinnie Moore etc were and are fantastic instrumentalists, but they lacked the ability to translate their craft in songwriting, which is how I like my playing.  Yes, maybe that wasn't their aim, and that point would certainly be valid, but I have to say that SX did it for me with their ability to create songs and soundscapes that took me on a journey, rather than 3 minutes of guitar wizardry over Usain Bolt's bass-drums (yes, I jest!)  But that's just my taste. 'Vive la difference', as they say next door.

I used to like Malmsteen but he lost the ability to write a decent song IMO round about 1988.  Absolutely cracking techinique and presence, but why oh why does he have to solo through everything live?  :-\  I still play his early stuff regularly though!  :hefdaddy

To each his own thats why people have different musical tastes, you talk about crafting a song and a soundscape, I just never heard that in SX's music, what I heard was lots of snippets of other genres ( Guitar Wizardry/Power Metal/Prog Metal) that never clicked with me on a whole. Where as Redemption and Fates Warning absolutely captured me on first listen.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: SoundscapeMN on October 12, 2010, 04:59:18 PM
Symphony X to me are a Power Metal band.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: ThroughHerEyesDude6 on October 13, 2010, 12:46:34 AM
Symphony X to me are a Power Metal band.
Sure, and Dimmu Borgir are straight Black Metal.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: Lowdz on October 13, 2010, 04:17:31 AM
Anubis Gate. The last two albums have been awesome.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: MuumiPeikko on October 13, 2010, 09:47:40 AM
Out of these four - Redemption
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on October 13, 2010, 09:58:03 AM
Symphony X to me are a Power Metal band.

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Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: EstyMaJ on October 13, 2010, 10:26:22 AM
Symphony X to me are a Power Metal band.

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Lol these people need to listen a little more before they make opinions , SX really do mix it up threw there discography , sure there are neo classicle / power / metal  / on and on but ya really cant lable them  one thing oh wait prog metal ya thats what they are :facepalm:
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: Seventh Son on October 13, 2010, 11:30:22 AM
Symphony X to me are a Power Metal band.
Sure, and Dimmu Borgir are straight Black Metal.
I like you. I like you a lot.
Title: Re: Your Fav Prog Metal band out of these! (that dont get a lot of recognition!)
Post by: Odysseus on October 13, 2010, 01:41:26 PM
To each his own thats why people have different musical tastes, you talk about crafting a song and a soundscape, I just never heard that in SX's music, what I heard was lots of snippets of other genres ( Guitar Wizardry/Power Metal/Prog Metal) that never clicked with me on a whole. Where as Redemption and Fates Warning absolutely captured me on first listen.

Absolutely.  That's the beauty of music IMO -something for everyone!  :tup