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Title: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: Aniland on September 25, 2010, 08:56:27 PM
Well? Do you ever get that feeling? Where you think "I love Dream Theater, but man, I hope they make another song that makes me feel the way [] does!" We probably all have that song. Or maybe we don't.

Anyway, the song that stands out in this regard for me? Innocence Faded. I think there was a quote about how "nobody wants a song that sounds like that anymore." That's ridiculous.

What about you?
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 25, 2010, 08:57:55 PM
Lifting Shadows Off A Dream.  It remains singular.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: Seventh Son on September 25, 2010, 09:07:13 PM
Lifting Shadows Off A Dream.  It remains singular.
YES

Lifting Shadows is amazing and so underrated.

On that note, I would love a song in a similar vein to Space-Dye Vest, but from what I understand most of DT doesn't even like that song so  :sadpanda:
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: Gorille85 on September 25, 2010, 09:07:26 PM
Dissapear. They need to do more stuff like that.
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Post by: chrisbDTM on September 25, 2010, 09:18:28 PM
caught in a web

anything like that. and a spider fingers part would be cool, obviously
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: The Dark Eternal Knight on September 25, 2010, 09:51:18 PM
Hells Kitchen. The atmosphere created in that son just just pure win.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: guysullavin on September 25, 2010, 09:57:36 PM
Lines in the Sand

Fat chance though, ever since Petrucci Switched to MM, his sound changed drastically. I miss the Ibanez sound.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: Adami on September 25, 2010, 09:59:24 PM
Yes, I would like DT to do more songs like the previous ones that I am fond of, and less like the previous ones that I am not fond of.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: ? on September 25, 2010, 10:37:12 PM
YOU NOT ME!!! :neverusethis:

Just kidding... I would love to hear them make a song like To Live Forever or Surrounded. A song in vein of Caught in a Web would be great too.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: wasp2020 on September 25, 2010, 10:38:48 PM
Surrounded. But I know it'd never happen, so whatever.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: LTE on September 26, 2010, 12:41:12 AM
Lines in the Sand

Fat chance though, ever since Petrucci Switched to MM, his sound changed drastically. I miss the Ibanez sound.

THIS!!!

Fuck, I swear Music man turned him into a bear.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: guysullavin on September 26, 2010, 01:06:17 AM
Lines in the Sand

Fat chance though, ever since Petrucci Switched to MM, his sound changed drastically. I miss the Ibanez sound.

THIS!!!

Fuck, I swear Music man turned him into a bear.
*Fist Bump*
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: yeshaberto on September 26, 2010, 01:49:04 AM
six degrees
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: tri.ad on September 26, 2010, 01:50:34 AM
If there's going to be a song with the amount of groove that can be found in 6:00, I'd be very pleased.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: JayOctavarium on September 26, 2010, 02:40:36 AM
match the epicness of Metropolis



and this :

Misunderstood.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: moffatt on September 26, 2010, 02:45:04 AM
Misunderstood.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: BRGM on September 26, 2010, 04:57:10 AM
Misunderstood.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: robwebster on September 26, 2010, 05:00:59 AM
Blind Faith. It used to make me feel so warm inside, but I inevitably burnt out on it. One of their very best songs, though, no doubt. I'd love to recapture that feeling at some point down the line - not necessarily in a song that sounds quite like it, but just that lush, thick mood.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: wolfking on September 26, 2010, 05:18:17 AM
Blind Faith. It used to make me feel so warm inside, but I inevitably burnt out on it. One of their very best songs, though, no doubt. I'd love to recapture that feeling at some point down the line - not necessarily in a song that sounds quite like it, but just that lush, thick mood.

Agree with this 100%, one of their best and most unique songs.


Also, Honor Thy Father.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: skydivingninja on September 26, 2010, 06:11:05 AM
I want Dream Theater to make Images and Words over and over and over again.
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Post by: Martinman300 on September 26, 2010, 06:58:43 AM
Caught in a web so much groove
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Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on September 26, 2010, 07:32:02 AM
If there's going to be a song with the amount of groove that can be found in 6:00, I'd be very pleased.

Definitely

Or as much atmosphere as Trial of Tears
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: Chino on September 26, 2010, 08:06:47 AM
Learning to Live or The Spirit Carries On
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Post by: ReaPsTA on September 26, 2010, 08:12:22 AM
New Millennium.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: MajorMatt on September 26, 2010, 08:57:13 AM
Lines in the Sand

Fat chance though, ever since Petrucci Switched to MM, his sound changed drastically. I miss the Ibanez sound.

Well LiTS will sound different seeing as it was recorded with a strat!
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: ResultsMayVary on September 26, 2010, 09:21:34 AM
The Dark Eternal Night  :neverusethis:

On a serious note, I'd love to see another song like The Great Debate, Trial of Tears, and Octavarium.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: dethklok09 on September 26, 2010, 09:44:03 AM
wither, or under a glass moon
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: Rafael Guerra on September 26, 2010, 09:51:21 AM
Blind Faith or/and These Walls.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: Mechanix1911 on September 26, 2010, 09:56:36 AM
Surrounded, Trial of Tears.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: guysullavin on September 26, 2010, 10:28:33 AM
Lines in the Sand

Fat chance though, ever since Petrucci Switched to MM, his sound changed drastically. I miss the Ibanez sound.

Well LiTS will sound different seeing as it was recorded with a strat!
Pics or it didn't happen. Live he used his Ibanez originally.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: LTE on September 26, 2010, 11:57:44 AM
Lines in the Sand

Fat chance though, ever since Petrucci Switched to MM, his sound changed drastically. I miss the Ibanez sound.

Well LiTS will sound different seeing as it was recorded with a strat!

I've never heard ANYTHING about Petrucci recording it with a strat. The only time i've ever seen Petrucci play a strat is some old video of him playing a Suhr I think at the Mesa Boogie booth at NAMM?

His Ibanez's middle pickup position was the inside coils of the two humbuckers, that can easily mimic a strat. Pretty sure the clean part in LITS was in the middle position.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: ddtonfire on September 26, 2010, 12:53:14 PM
He only recorded the LItS guitar solo with a Strat. The rest was Ibanez.
( https://www.petrucciforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=676489&postcount=5 )
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: MirzekDT on September 26, 2010, 01:52:19 PM
Misunderstood and Surrounded
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: Marvellous G on September 26, 2010, 02:17:10 PM
Misunderstood and Surrounded

These, and Take The Time/Lines In The Sand. More funk is needed, DT.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: skydivingninja on September 26, 2010, 02:53:05 PM
Serious post time: hearing more groovy tracks like New Milennium, Take the Time, Caught in a Web, and LitS would be so awesome.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: paulpetrucci on September 26, 2010, 03:05:47 PM
Well, any song from I&W tbh...  :)

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Post by: Chino on September 26, 2010, 05:24:30 PM
I would like another big medley.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: SnakeEyes on September 26, 2010, 07:48:10 PM
Don't Look Past Me. 
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: chrisbDTM on September 26, 2010, 08:10:36 PM
Lifting Shadows Off A Dream.  It remains singular.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: MetalManiac666 on September 26, 2010, 08:15:44 PM
The Great Debate, Trial of Tears, Misunderstood, Under a Glass Moon, etc.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: Jarlaxle on September 26, 2010, 08:40:41 PM
Hells Kitchen. The atmosphere created in that son just just pure win.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: antigoon on September 26, 2010, 10:36:48 PM
To Live Forever, Surrounded and Don't Look Past Me

I don't care if it sounds dated, it would still be awesome. More realistically, I'd like them to dial back the "balls" a bit and return to the style of metal on SFAM, so Fatal Tragedy.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: fsh3702 on September 27, 2010, 01:37:54 AM
metropolitan 1
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: ikbradley on September 27, 2010, 01:40:02 AM
At this point, anything with an ounce of integrity and creative input from all of the band members. Learning to Live had a great combination of lyrics and tasteful instrumental passages.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: ThroughHerEyesDude6 on September 27, 2010, 02:52:19 AM
Take Away My Pain
Another Day
Vacant
SDOIT Pt. 6: Solitary Shell
Hell's Kitchen
Space Dye Vest
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: fadetoblackdude7 on September 27, 2010, 08:25:18 AM
Lines In The Sand
Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
Scarred
Blind Faith
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: Dublagent66 on September 27, 2010, 08:42:24 AM
Learning to Live
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Post by: jdprsaga on September 27, 2010, 08:52:03 AM
I was trying to make a list and i end up with almost 2 songs of every album, so i don't know :S.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: Arcaeus on September 27, 2010, 08:53:32 AM
Lifting Shadows Off A Dream, Disappear, Space-Dye Vest, Vacant, etc., something minimal (for DT) and emotional. Or at least something like the "Beautiful Agony" section in ANTR without ruining it right afterward with tasteless soloing.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: Mechanix1911 on September 27, 2010, 11:45:41 AM
Seriously now, Take the Time. Undoubtly the top DT ~8 min song. Perfect length, every little microsecond of it is amazing, 9 minutes would be considered too long.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: Gorille85 on September 27, 2010, 12:29:53 PM
Lifting Shadows Off A Dream, Disappear, Space-Dye Vest, Vacant, etc., something minimal (for DT) and emotional. Or at least something like the "Beautiful Agony" section in ANTR without ruining it right afterward with tasteless soloing.
This!
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: DeanTheater on September 27, 2010, 01:20:51 PM
VOICES.  hands down.  I Love everything about that song.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: rumborak on September 27, 2010, 01:31:52 PM
Eve
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Post by: ddtonfire on September 27, 2010, 01:42:06 PM
It's surprising how many FII tracks are listen here, yet DTF contends it's one of their not-as-impressive efforts.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: antigoon on September 27, 2010, 02:19:27 PM
I don't!
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Post by: j on September 27, 2010, 02:23:08 PM
Neither do I.  FII is better than at least half of DT's albums.

-J
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: BRGM on September 27, 2010, 02:28:23 PM
I appriciate FII more and more
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Post by: rumborak on September 27, 2010, 02:29:03 PM
FII is awesome, and I always had the impression that a lot of the fanbase's resentment stemmed from the band bad-mouthing it.

rumborak
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: Gorille85 on September 27, 2010, 02:29:57 PM
FII is awesome, and I always had the impression that a lot of the fanbase's resentment stemmed from the band bad-mouthing it.

rumborak

Yeah, this and the fact that it is quite different than the typical prog-metal DT...ehich isn't a bad thing at all.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: Ben_Jamin on September 27, 2010, 02:43:33 PM
It is pretty great in my top 3. For me it's the atmosphere, it feels like your in the sky with all that room to breathe
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Post by: Metropolis Pt. II on September 27, 2010, 03:04:38 PM
I was actually thinking about this earlier today. I wish they would make another song along the lines of Scarred.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: fllnsprrw on September 27, 2010, 03:06:38 PM
Nope. I'm excited with anything, whatever they come up next!
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 27, 2010, 04:08:12 PM
Eve
I love you.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: MetalManiac666 on September 27, 2010, 04:10:46 PM
I've actually never listened to "Eve."

I'll change that after I finish listening to "Deliverance."

EDIT: Just listened to it.  Pretty good song, didn't particularly like the piano intro, loved the JP solo, and really liked MP's drumming throughout.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: robwebster on September 27, 2010, 08:01:56 PM
FII is awesome, and I always had the impression that a lot of the fanbase's resentment stemmed from the band bad-mouthing it.

rumborak

Possibly, but I also think it's become more "acceptable" as it's become less contemporary.

When you've only got Images and Words and Awake, FII is immediately dangerous and must be stopped at any length. But the more albums that succeed it, FII becomes less of a danger or a hint at a shake, and more of a quirky footnote.

Not to mention, as Dream Theater get older, they alienate the older fans - as any good band rightly should; if nobody's got an opinion then you're not doing the "career" thing right - and the newer ones fill their places. The people who remember being scared by FII will have been gradually shed, whereas if they've joined, say, post SDOIT and further, it won't have as much historical significance for them, and it's easier to judge on its own merits.

The albums seem to all undergo reappraisal. There are some who liked them when they first came out. Some who've always hated them. But the new fans will always tend to be more sympathetic to the entire, collected back-catalogue, 'cause they don't have to worry about a direction that the band might have wobbled towards ten years ago, and if they weren't constantly finding material that they enjoyed they wouldn't be joining the good ship Dream Theater in the first place.

Wasn't too long ago that SDOIT was the scrappy of the catalogue. Only 8 years down the line has it really buried itself into the collective consciousness. Partially 'cause the ones who didn't like Six Degrees when it came out have long since given up, partially 'cause it's nothing to worry about any more. Train of Thought is starting to get the hate alleviated, too. Only slightly, but the fan-base is slowly pivoting around, like a massive boat changing direction. That's grand. I've always liked Train of Thought.



NB: This was possibly a tad repetitious. I am drunk. Hello.
Title: Re: And if I had a fourth choice, it'd be "The School Song", natch
Post by: LeeHarveyKennedy on September 27, 2010, 08:58:02 PM
Fuck, I've got to follow robwebster? Dammit...

If I could pick a top 3, it'd be Surrounded, Eve, and then... The version of Don't Look Past Me from the 5 Years in a Livetime DVD. I remember being completely entranced while watching that; DT's video output usually doesn't hold my interest well, but the sheer emotion found in that song stopped my breath. Come to think of it, I think it's that very trait that draws me to those three songs I picked.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: Plasmastrike on September 27, 2010, 11:51:26 PM
Eve
Yes! :hefdaddy

I discovered this track because I recently got "Cleaning Out The Closet." Just breathtaking. Quite possibly my favorite instrumental by the band.
Title: Re: And if I had a fourth choice, it'd be "The School Song", natch
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 28, 2010, 04:09:36 AM
The version of Don't Look Past Me from the 5 Years in a Livetime DVD. I remember being completely entranced while watching that; DT's video output usually doesn't hold my interest well, but the sheer emotion found in that song stopped my breath. Come to think of it, I think it's that very trait that draws me to those three songs I picked.
There is no version of Don't Look Past Me on any DVD.
Title: Re: And if I had a fourth choice, it'd be "The School Song", natch
Post by: ? on September 28, 2010, 04:15:46 AM
The version of Don't Look Past Me from the 5 Years in a Livetime DVD. I remember being completely entranced while watching that; DT's video output usually doesn't hold my interest well, but the sheer emotion found in that song stopped my breath. Come to think of it, I think it's that very trait that draws me to those three songs I picked.
There is no version of Don't Look Past Me on any DVD.
Even more important is the fact that it has never been played live.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: lord-ruler on September 28, 2010, 04:57:17 AM
The third side of III sides to every story by Extreme.  Would love to hear a "cupid's dead" Style D.T song as well.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: guysullavin on September 28, 2010, 05:15:12 AM
now that I think of it, if they did another song like "The Killing Hand", that would be pretty badass.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: perfey on September 28, 2010, 09:19:33 AM
Any lyricalpenned song by Muyng really. Who can say nay to another Trial of Tears, Learning to Live, Liftings Shadows of a Dream and Fatal Tragedy musically? So very different instrumentally and lyrically.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 28, 2010, 09:46:19 AM
The third side of III sides to every story by Extreme.  Would love to hear a "cupid's dead" Style D.T song as well.
This isn't really a "cover song" thread.
Title: Re: Title of thread
Post by: LeeHarveyKennedy on September 28, 2010, 10:50:19 AM
The version of Don't Look Past Me from the 5 Years in a Livetime DVD. I remember being completely entranced while watching that; DT's video output usually doesn't hold my interest well, but the sheer emotion found in that song stopped my breath. Come to think of it, I think it's that very trait that draws me to those three songs I picked.
There is no version of Don't Look Past Me on any DVD.

Oh? Then what song am I thinking of?

Edit: Speak To Me. Huh. Can you tell that I haven't dug into my obscure DT tracks in a while?
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: lord-ruler on September 28, 2010, 02:44:45 PM
The third side of III sides to every story by Extreme.  Would love to hear a "cupid's dead" Style D.T song as well.
This isn't really a "cover song" thread.
I didn't say cover it.   I said write a song "like" it.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 28, 2010, 07:19:33 PM
The third side of III sides to every story by Extreme.  Would love to hear a "cupid's dead" Style D.T song as well.
This isn't really a "cover song" thread.
I didn't say cover it.   I said write a song "like" it.
You're right, bad choice of words.  I meant, this thread is looking at songs in DT's past catalogue, to see what kind of song they can reproduce.  Not songs of other people.
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: Implode on September 29, 2010, 05:34:44 PM
Surrounded. But I know it'd never happen, so whatever.

This.  :-\
Title: Re: Does anyone ever secretly hope DT records another song like...
Post by: Jarlaxle on September 30, 2010, 05:20:36 PM
I hope they do more songs like Hell's Kitchen, These Walls, The Great Debate, Solitary Shell and Learning to Live.