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Dream Theater => Dream Theater => Topic started by: Martinman300 on March 04, 2010, 02:14:03 PM
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Are you interested in this??
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What do you mean?
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I don't see why anyone would be bothered. I don't like that it's North America only but I think that it's great news for DT.
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How could anyone be bothered? Don't want to see it? Then don't. There was going to be no summer tour at all, now there is, as support for Maiden. It's no skin off the nose of anyone who isn't into Maiden, as DT wouldn't have toured at all, otherwise.
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Because some members live in Europe or elsewhere. Or don't like maiden. Or think that despite this, the news is good as DT will get exposure. An interesting topic. Vote.
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What a bizarre question. Why would anyone be bothered by this? I am not a Maiden fan at all, but why would this bother me?
If you are disappointed that they are not coming to your city or country, that is fine, but being disappointed and being bothered are not the same thing.
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This gets me sooooo mad when 2 bands I like tour together. If they add a 3rd band I like, I might go DT postal on you all.
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BTW, any bets on the % of yes votes? I say 1%.
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Because some members live in Europe or elsewhere. Or don't like maiden. Or think that despite this, the news is good as DT will get exposure. An interesting topic. Vote.
I live in Europe and like Maiden (even worse that I can't see it), yet think it is cool news for DT.
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Just to be clear, when i say bothered, i don't mean angered or something like that, i meen interested!!
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What a bizarre question. Why would anyone be bothered by this? I am not a Maiden fan at all, but why would this bother me?
If you are disappointed that they are not coming to your city or country, that is fine, but being disappointed and being bothered are not the same thing.
This. I'm not a Maiden fan either, but it's great for both bands.
And even though Wey's thread title says "North America," the press release says there will be some Europe dates as well.
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Just to be clear, when i say bothered, i don't mean angered or something like that, i meen interested!!
wat is this i dont even
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ARE YOU INTERESTED IN SEEING THESE BANDS TOGETHER OR NOT
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I'm not bothered by it, no. Am I disappointed that there isn't a Minnesota show, Yes. Am Hapy for the bands... :metal
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YIPPEEEEEE!!!!
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ARE YOU INTERESTED IN SEEING THESE BANDS TOGETHER OR NOT
I would be if it wasn't on the other side of the world :angel:.
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wheres the yes if they come to euorpe buttom :\
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wheres the yes if they come to euorpe buttom :\
Where are you from? If I may go a tiny bit off-topic.
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Just to be clear, when i say bothered, i don't mean angered or something like that, i meen interested!!
I'd like a copy of your thesaurus. :biggrin:
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Bothered means i care, as in " i'm not bovvered" means i don't care. Its a UK thing obviously.
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:corn
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Anyone have the "English--do you speak it?!" pic handy?
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(https://www.soapdick.com/boardstuff/English_Motherfucker_Do_You_Speak_It.jpg)
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Where the fuck are the tickets?!?!?!?
I can't find any sites that even are advertising possibly selling the tickets for the Molson Amphitheater.
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Where the fuck are the tickets?!?!?!?
I can't find any sites that even are advertising possibly selling the tickets for the Molson Amphitheater.
IM fanclub members get tickets on the 10th. The common folk get 'em on the 20th.
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Bothered? No. This is a great thing for Dream Theater. Great exposure, and the chance of a lifetime to play with one of the bands that influenced them.
If they were actually coming near me, I probably wouldn't go see them, just because I don't like Iron Maiden, and I would rather not see Dream Theater opening for them during what could be my first DT concert.
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I'm all hot and bothered
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Where the fuck are the tickets?!?!?!?
I can't find any sites that even are advertising possibly selling the tickets for the Molson Amphitheater.
IM fanclub members get tickets on the 10th. The common folk get 'em on the 20th.
Thank you sir
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Do I look bovvered?
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I voted "No" and then read the question inside the topic and it said interested. This is the worst poll ever.
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Cool thread..
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:lol
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I just posted in this thread.
rumborak
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I voted "No" and then read the question inside the topic and it said interested. This is the worst poll ever.
:lol This.
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I just posted in this thread.
rumborak
It both raises the (albeit still very low) quality of this thread and your posts in epic threads count. Good job.
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I voted "No" and then read the question inside the topic and it said interested. This is the worst poll ever.
This was me.
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I voted "No" and then read the question inside the topic and it said interested. This is the worst poll ever.
This was me.
That was me.
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Heck yes im interested! :2metal:
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Yes. I'm bothered by the selection of cities for this tour. No FLA dates.
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No I'm not bothered and No I'm not interested. I don't like Iron Maiden at all, but I'm not in the US so it doesn't affect me.
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I don't like Iron Maiden at all
Man, you guys are really forgetful when it comes to changing the font color to sarcasm green
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I've reset the poll and made the post and poll make more sense, because as it was it was full of fail.
And I know fail when I see it.
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First one to answer:
And the answer is YES :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Iron Maiden is at the excitement level as Barry Manilow for me, so the tour is no-go for me.
Hmm, I feel like putting "Mandy" on. Or "Fear of the dark". Mandy, Fear of the dark?! I can't decide!!
EDIT: Put on Mandy.
rumborak
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How do you guys always remember to use sarcastic green?
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In all seriousness though, I never understood the excitement of people for Maiden. I mean, it's not bad music, but to me it's just fairly generic metal. Simple chords, up-tempo, high-pitched vocals. Coming from the prog side of things, there's almost zero allure for Maiden for me.
rumborak
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Iron Maiden is at the excitement level as Barry Manilow for me, so the tour is no-go for me.
Hmm, I feel like putting "Mandy" on. Or "Fear of the dark". Mandy, Fear of the dark?! I can't decide!!
EDIT: Put on Mandy.
rumborak
Could... could it actually be?
Rumborak failing?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHaRptTNBTI
rumborak
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I agree with Rumborak even though I do enjoy some songs from Maiden but I'm mainly wanting to see DT when they come here.
My Opinion: Maiden should open for DT, but that'd only be in a crazy, warped universe where bands with more talent and interesting music get to headline concerts.
:)
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Even if that were true, Maiden are a much better live band than Dream Theater.
DT are good, make no mistake; but Maiden live are an absolute powerhouse. Historically, they've usually outplayed bands that they've opened for. Just look at what ended up happening at Ozzfest.
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This thread is starting to fail really badly :facepalm:
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In all seriousness though, I never understood the excitement of people for Maiden. I mean, it's not bad music, but to me it's just fairly generic metal. Simple chords, up-tempo, high-pitched vocals. Coming from the prog side of things, there's almost zero allure for Maiden for me.
rumborak
The same could be said about, and often is, Judas Preist, Dio ect. ect... The problem with this train of thought is the lack of historical perspective. These bands invented and popularized a sound that so many that came afterwards mis-used or over used and made the sound "generic".
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I agree with Rumborak even though I do enjoy some songs from Maiden but I'm mainly wanting to see DT when they come here.
My Opinion: Maiden should open for DT, but that'd only be in a crazy, warped universe where bands with more talent and interesting music get to headline concerts.
:)
Agreed. I like Seventh Son a lot but haven't been able to get in to much else. Also I'm sure that Rumby more than agrees with your tiny-font comment after opening for a Tool cover band.
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Even if that were true, Maiden are a much better live band than Dream Theater.
DT are good, make no mistake; but Maiden live are an absolute powerhouse. Historically, they've usually outplayed bands that they've opened for. Just look at what ended up happening at Ozzfest.
If by 'outplay' you mean Dickinson jumping on the monitors and the Bassist pointing the headstock at the crowd every other song.
Just kidding, I like Maiden.
:hat
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Even if that were true, Maiden are a much better live band than Dream Theater.
DT are good, make no mistake; but Maiden live are an absolute powerhouse. Historically, they've usually outplayed bands that they've opened for. Just look at what ended up happening at Ozzfest.
If by 'outplay' you mean Dickinson jumping on the monitors and the Bassist pointing the headstock at the crowd every other song.
Just kidding, I like Maiden.
:hat
Actually, some of the best moments about seeing Dickinson in a live setting are his rants. :metal
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Even if that were true, Maiden are a much better live band than Dream Theater.
DT are good, make no mistake; but Maiden live are an absolute powerhouse. Historically, they've usually outplayed bands that they've opened for. Just look at what ended up happening at Ozzfest.
If by 'outplay' you mean Dickinson jumping on the monitors and the Bassist pointing the headstock at the crowd every other song.
Just kidding, I like Maiden.
:hat
That's exactly what I mean. ;D It's awesome to see a band in their fifties go fucking nuts on stage and just get completely into it.
At the show I went to, I swear that Dickinson spent maybe like 15 minutes of the 2 hour set still. There were numerous collisions mid-stage due to running guitarists/bassists/singers. And every time Dickinson implored the crowd to scream for him, you fucking screamed for him. It was like getting hit by a speeding train.
Best night of my life.
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In all seriousness though, I never understood the excitement of people for Maiden. I mean, it's not bad music, but to me it's just fairly generic metal. Simple chords, up-tempo, high-pitched vocals. Coming from the prog side of things, there's almost zero allure for Maiden for me.
rumborak
The same could be said about, and often is, Judas Preist, Dio ect. ect... The problem with this train of thought is the lack of historical perspective. These bands invented and popularized a sound that so many that came afterwards mis-used or over used and made the sound "generic".
I can't think of another band that sounds like Iron Maiden, to be honest. But, just because they were the first to heavily overuse vi-V-IV, it makes it good again?
rumborak
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Oh c'mon, now. You're from Germany originally if I remember right. Havn't you ever heard of Helloween? They were Iron Maiden on speed in the late 80's and early 90's.
Early Metalica, early Fates Warning, The Warning from Queensryche, Leatherwolf, Savatage ect. ect.....There were a million bands that were heavily influenced by them.
I can even hear Maiden in some modern bands like Coheed and A7X.
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I still don't get your point. Just because other bands were influenced by IM, it must be good?
Plagiarism of the mundane is not exactly unheard of in art history.
rumborak
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Saying you can't think of a metal band that sounds like Maiden is like saying you can't think of a metal band that sounds like Sabbath.
Pretty much all of progressive metal had its jumping-off point from Maiden, as well as any band that utilizes more than one guitar that plays different things.
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I still don't get your point. Just because other bands were influenced by IM, it must be good?
Plagiarism of the mundane is not exactly unheard of in art history.
rumborak
Look, I simply pointed out some bands that were influenced by them because you claimed that you never heard anyone that sounded like them. You obviously don't like the band and their music. So be it. What is one man's trash is another man's treasure.
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I am beyond excited and interested!
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Pretty much all of progressive metal had its jumping-off point from Maiden, as well as any band that utilizes more than one guitar that plays different things.
Judas Priest was doing that LONG before Iron Maiden hit the scene. LONG before.
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Pretty much all of progressive metal had its jumping-off point from Maiden, as well as any band that utilizes more than one guitar that plays different things.
Judas Priest was doing that LONG before Iron Maiden hit the scene. LONG before.
Not in the same way. Judas Priest of course, had classic guitar-duo, but the interplay was in the solos rather than the riffs. Maybe I'm missing something (because I don't listen to the first couple of albums that much), but I don't hear the same sort of harmonies as Maiden develop until Screaming for Vengeance or so.
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Not interested.
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Pretty much all of progressive metal had its jumping-off point from Maiden, as well as any band that utilizes more than one guitar that plays different things.
Judas Priest was doing that LONG before Iron Maiden hit the scene. LONG before.
And so wern't The Yardbirds if you look at it from a certain perspective.
The difference between Preist and Maiden was that Preist had a dominant lead player. Sure, KK played some leads, but Glen was definately the man in that band. Maiden was more of a "two gun" show. Some would argue that they still are considering Janic's lead skills.
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And besides, you can try to prop up Priest all you want, but everybody knows it was Maiden that gave us the famous line by Bill & Ted: "Iron Maiden! Excellent!" *air-guitar-whiddly-whiddly*
/thread
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Well this is a dream come true for me. My two favorite bands playing together. Thy are playing in the town I live in Holmdel NJ and I can see them again the next night in NYC. I shat my pants this afternoon when I got the news.
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Not coming to my continent, but if they were I'd be standing there with my willy out.
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Not coming to my continent, but if they were I'd be standing there with my willy out.
And I would stay clear of whatever arena you are in.
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Not coming to my continent, but if they were I'd be standing there with my willy out.
And I would stay clear of whatever arena you are in.
By "willy" he means vagina, and by "out" he means infested with rabid crabs.
Oh wait, good idea olol.
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I ticked "not coming to my continent", but I would have definitely been interested.
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Sorry for the original badly worded failpoll everyone. :-(
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Sorry for the original badly worded failpoll everyone. :-(
Well, Rob did mention his pole,
Not coming to my continent, but if they were I'd be standing there with my willy out.
so it's not a total fail.
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If they came to south-eastern Europe, I would certainly be there, because it would be the best show EVER.
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i was convinced to see maiden when I was younger...and was blown away by the energy. Im not saying Rumby's wrong..certianly their music is very ordinary...it's just hard NOT to have a good time at a maiden show. And with DT there too...Im jacked.
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To the people saying Maiden is stereotypical metal, they're the originators of it. Also, listen to Steve Harris, he plays sixteen note triplets like constantly, with only two fingers. For those who don't play bass, that takes a lot of practice and endurance.
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Maiden's first 7 albums are the Royal Flush of metal. There's nothing we can do to convince people of that if they don't already get it.
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To the people saying Maiden is stereotypical metal, they're the originators of it. Also, listen to Steve Harris, he plays sixteen note triplets like constantly, with only two fingers. For those who don't play bass, that takes a lot of practice and endurance.
:lol
Playing sixteenths has now become a sign for good music.
rumborak
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I'm happy DT decided to do a summer tour and I feel fortunate that they are coming to Denver, CO. I skipped the Progressive Nation Tour in the hopes they would tour. After MP's announcement about not touring in the summer, I was bummed.
I'm hoping to land stage seats for the event because Fiddler's Green is pretty crappy if you're not in those seats.
My preference would have been Red Rocks. I don't understand why why IM booking/PR team doesn't get them at a cooler venue. Concert music played by the bands has to end at 11PM sharp due to city code. How retarded is that?
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and Im sure it's old..but I just found out about this one too
https://www.geg.ca/geg_newsletters/2010/03/heavymtl_presale/heavymtl_fr.html
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Now I understand the FotD/Mandy pole. Pretty disappointing, honestly. Maidens written some pretty intelligent music, and you pick a fairly weak anthem-type to judge them by. It'd be like comparing DT to another band on the basis of You Not Me, just to make them look cheesy.
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In all seriousness though, I never understood the excitement of people for Maiden. I mean, it's not bad music, but to me it's just fairly generic metal. Simple chords, up-tempo, high-pitched vocals. Coming from the prog side of things, there's almost zero allure for Maiden for me.
rumborak
Since you are "coming from the prog side of things", I can understand how Maiden might not thrill you. Out of curiosity, are you a fan of any straight-ahead metal bands at all, i.e. metal bands without the prog?
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In all seriousness though, I never understood the excitement of people for Maiden. I mean, it's not bad music, but to me it's just fairly generic metal. Simple chords, up-tempo, high-pitched vocals. Coming from the prog side of things, there's almost zero allure for Maiden for me.
rumborak
Since you are "coming from the prog side of things", I can understand how Maiden might not thrill you. Out of curiosity, are you a fan of any straight-ahead metal bands at all, i.e. metal bands without the prog?
Not really, no. Same with Metallica for me, even though I like the Black album of theirs since it combines good songwriting with metal. That's why I like Dream Theater, because they combine metal with prog and good songwriting. Straight metal a la Dio, Iron Maiden etc. doesn't hold my attention very long. Just like CGI movies don't hold my attention if they don't have a good plot.
rumborak
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I think I'll chime in as one of the few bothered people. I guess it's cool for DT, I guess. These are 2 of my favorite bands, but combining them on the same bill doesn't help me one bit. If DT had done the regular tour that they said they were going to do, I'd see them 3 times in Texas, and tickets would be affordable. I'd see Maiden once, maybe twice; their setlist is carved in stone so multiple dates doesn't hole too much appeal. This way, I'll get shortened DT sets, and have to pay out the ass (see the TM thread) for each date. Unlike DT shows where great seats are affordable, I'll probably settle for nosebleed, and because of the presence of Maiden, it'll be expensive as fuck and make a third DT show cost-prohibitive.
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This thread sucks.
For the record, I am neither interested nor bothered. But I'm happy for DT and for all the fans of both bands, because it should be an awesome show.
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They are not coming to my continent but I AM interested in going!
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What the crap is Danananananaykroyd, hef?
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What the crap is Danananananaykroyd, hef?
I don't remember. I think I got them in one of the rounds of Track of the Day. I'll check it out and get back to you. But basically, I ran across it in Winamp, went "What's this?" and listened to it.
Thanks for taking an interest. :biggrin:
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This thread sucks.
For the record, I am neither interested nor bothered. But I'm happy for DT and for all the fans of both bands, because it should be an awesome show.
Absolutely this. Maiden lay down an awesome show (I saw the recent movie about them in the theaters), and for people into their music, I can totally understand how they will expect Jesus to headbang in the second row of those concerts.
It's just been a bad DT week for me. A new tune that does little for me, and a tour I'm not going to go to.
rumborak
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Does anyone else feel this way: My roommate is shocked that Dream Theater is opening for Maiden because DT is technically more impressive than Maiden. I mean to me, in the real world, Maiden is easily more popular and will draw more people. I dunno I'm just baffled how someone can even question that. That's like saying Metallica should open for Scale The Summit because STS plays more complicated shit. No, it doesn't work like that.
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Does anyone else feel this way: My roommate is shocked that Dream Theater is opening for Maiden because DT is technically more impressive than Maiden. I mean to me, in the real world, Maiden is easily more popular and will draw more people. I dunno I'm just baffled how someone can even question that. That's like saying Metallica should open for Scale The Summit because STS plays more complicated shit. No, it doesn't work like that.
What??? you mean that pure technicality isn't the sole measure of music's worth or enjoyability??? ONOEZ!!!!11!!!11
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Forgetting about technical abilities, I'm sure that there are plenty of people who think that DT's stage performance could potentially blow Maiden's away.
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Does anyone else feel this way: My roommate is shocked that Dream Theater is opening for Maiden because DT is technically more impressive than Maiden. I mean to me, in the real world, Maiden is easily more popular and will draw more people. I dunno I'm just baffled how someone can even question that. That's like saying Metallica should open for Scale The Summit because STS plays more complicated shit. No, it doesn't work like that.
Yeah, your roommate is off his rocker if he thinks it should be the other way around. At best, I could see considering it a co-headlining tour, but even if both of them were designated as "co-headliners," Maiden should still get the top billing and the closing set each night, no question. I don't see how that is even open for debate.
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Does anyone else feel this way: My roommate is shocked that Dream Theater is opening for Maiden because DT is technically more impressive than Maiden. I mean to me, in the real world, Maiden is easily more popular and will draw more people. I dunno I'm just baffled how someone can even question that. That's like saying Metallica should open for Scale The Summit because STS plays more complicated shit. No, it doesn't work like that.
I'm with you.
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Maiden can pull in 12,000 a night while DT pulls in 3000. That is why Dt is the opening act.
Are they adding more shows? I'd love to see a New england date.
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This thread sucks.
For the record, I am neither interested nor bothered. But I'm happy for DT and for all the fans of both bands, because it should be an awesome show.
Absolutely this. Maiden lay down an awesome show (I saw the recent movie about them in the theaters), and for people into their music, I can totally understand how they will expect Jesus to headbang in the second row of those concerts.
It's just been a bad DT week for me. A new tune that does little for me, and a tour I'm not going to go to.
rumborak
I can definitely relate, except it's been a bad couple of years for me. Their last Dallas show wasn't bad, but it's gotten harder and harder for me to be a huge DT fan.
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I'm crying that I'm not going to see Iron Maiden now, let alone with DT. :sadpanda:
I hope all you guys have fun though!
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Does anyone else feel this way: My roommate is shocked that Dream Theater is opening for Maiden because DT is technically more impressive than Maiden. I mean to me, in the real world, Maiden is easily more popular and will draw more people. I dunno I'm just baffled how someone can even question that. That's like saying Metallica should open for Scale The Summit because STS plays more complicated shit. No, it doesn't work like that.
Did he see ZPZ open for DT on PN09?
And props to nick for fixing a thread full of fail.
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No I'm more intrested in some ants moving some tiny bits of sugar somewhere on the opposite side of the world.
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Not really a Maiden fan so no, I want a full 2 hour+ DT only concert bring back the Evening With shows back!
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Not really a Maiden fan so no, I want a full 2 hour+ DT only concert bring back the Evening With shows back!
I found that after 2.5 hours I became bored, hell I heard all the songs a thousand times.
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I'm happy for DT and for all the fans of both bands, because it should be an awesome show.
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What the crap is Danananananaykroyd, hef?
I don't remember. I think I got them in one of the rounds of Track of the Day. I'll check it out and get back to you. But basically, I ran across it in Winamp, went "What's this?" and listened to it.
Thanks for taking an interest. :biggrin:
OK, after further research, they are a band from Scotland, and I didn't get it from Track of the Day. I suppose I got it as a free mp3 from Amazon.com, because it's the only song from them I have. But it's neat. It's kind of pop-hardcore.
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I'm definitely looking forward to this. Sure, yet again neither of these bands seems to know that Halifax exists (Ozzy was here not too long ago, and actually added a second show due to demand. Both were almost immediately sold out). Luckily, it's happening during prime roadtrip season anyway, and I love visiting Montreal.
Also, some of my friends who aren't into DT enough to travel to Montreal to see them have already agreed to go since they're also big IM fans.