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Dream Theater => Dream Theater => Topic started by: LosferWords on February 17, 2010, 06:27:03 PM
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I want our fans to know that with Jimmy in our hearts, our journey to record has officially began. Jimmy helped leave this world an amazing gift and now it's our job to make sure to deliver that gift to our fans. We asked Jimmy's all time favorite drummer Mike Portnoy to record on behalf of him. Mike said it would be an honor and without question that’s what Jim would have wanted. Its comforting to us that someone like Mike, who is undoubtedly revered as one of the best drummers in the world, held such respect and adoration for the Rev's abilities. Even though it will never be the same without our brother by our side, his essence lives in our hearts and through the music he helped create. He was a legend before any of the success or any of that bullshit and we are fucking excited to lay this down for our fans, and especially for Jimmy.
-Avenged Sevenfold
:tup I personally am pumped. Not only is A7X going back into the studio to finish their album, but it's with another amazing drummer. The Rev can't be replaced, but definitely think that Mike is the best choice. Also cool to see Mike is Jimmy's favorite drummer.
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Damn, just saw someone posted it in the "MP in the studio thread" on page 3. Mods can delete this. My bad.
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I think it's worthy of it's own thread, so people can see it. That being said, I'm really excited. Mike is such an extraordinary guy for doing something awesome like this.
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I never really been a fan of A7X but i think ill take a listen when the new album comes out. Its cool of Mike doing this.
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I think it's worthy of it's own thread, so people can see it. That being said, I'm really excited. Mike is such an extraordinary guy for doing something awesome like this.
Nah, just amend the title of the other thread.
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Even though I honestly think A7X sucks a lot (Their first album was good, the second was decent, the rest... :facepalm:), I also think The Rev was a really good drummer whose talent wasn't used much in the last A7X album, and I felt kinda sad when I found out he died because (to me) he was the most talented guy in the band. It's a really good and noble thing that Mike does this as a homage to The Rev.
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So this was the news? At least now we know!
Not something I'm at all interested in, but it's good news for the band and for Portnoy to be involved.
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Even though I'm not into A7X I'm really stoked to hear this. I think it's an amazing gesture on Mike's part and I feel extremely happy for the surviving members of A7X that this kind of catharsis has been able to happen. Hopefully this will greatly help the healing process.
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I've never heard A7X, but I like what this shows us about MP, the person.
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Holy shit! Mike Portnoy's recording the new album with Avenged Sevenfold?!
That's fantastic.
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:rollin YAAAAAAAAAY
MY FAVORITE DRUMMER AND MY FAVORITE BAND IM CUMMING HARDCORE
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I only listen two songs from A7X, when they cover the iron maiden and pantera song . and I never listen to another song or earlier. but when I read this news about the MP helped A7X, I'm interested and can not wait to listen him (A7X album)
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(https://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c248/xg2099/a7xmp.jpg)
Looks good to me.
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Wow, many props to MP.
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Holy shit!
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Holy shit!
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That's cool.
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Seems like an odd move. I mean, it would be SO cool to have portnoy drum on your album, but unless he's touring with them, it means portnoy has to learn all the songs, record them, THEN they have to find another drummer to learn all their past songs and portnoy stuff and tour with them.
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I think the main reason they went for him was because he was The Rev/Jimmy's favourite drummer.
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I think the main reason they went for him was because he was The Rev/Jimmy's favourite drummer.
I understand the reasoning. Still seems like more work than necessary though.
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I get your point Adami, but I don't think it's that much more work.
Any new drummer is going to have to learn/know all of their existing songs anyway, so one more album isn't too much more for them. Sure it would make more sense to record the new album with the permanent replacement drummer, but this way they don't have the pressure of finding and committing to a new drummer so soon, while knowing they've got a good session drummer in the meantime.
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I get your point Adami, but I don't think it's that much more work.
Any new drummer is going to have to learn/know all of their existing songs anyway, so one more album isn't too much more for them. Sure it would make more sense to record the new album with the permanent replacement drummer, but this way they don't have the pressure of finding and committing to a new drummer so soon, while knowing they've got a good session drummer in the meantime.
Fair enough.
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This is awesome.
Love A7X, and Portnoy playing with them for this record is going to make it nothing short of incredible.
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Who?
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Who?
Seriously?
Avenged Sevenfold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHS3qJdxefY
I'm linking that vdeio becuase it is safe for work and also an official release but if you've never heard of them that is definately one of their more radio friendly songs, and a lot of their material is more complex and heavier. Second Heartbeat :metal
I'm actually interested as to what MPs drumming is gonna sound like on this record. The Rev used a lot of tricky double bass patterns, and although it seems MP has been practiscing (if BC&SL is anything to go by) I always thought that was his one weakness. Also, The Rev has quite odd sounding drums, and I know MP is adamant about never triggering his drums in the studio. That said, the last A7X record had a more natural drum sound, so maybe that won't be an issue
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Waste of time...respect to him for doing it but they're a terrible, terrible band and Mike isn't gonna make them any better unless they just make the album one big drum solo
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I'm incredibly excited to hear how this sounds. I had heard somewhere that A7X indicated that this album will have a more progressive feel, so it will be interesting to see what comes out of this. I don't have any recollection of where I heard that though....
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I'm incredibly excited to hear how this sounds. I had heard somewhere that A7X indicated that this album will have a more progressive feel, so it will be interesting to see what comes out of this. I don't have any recollection of where I heard that though....
M. Shadows also said in an interview with Loveline that the next record would be a more classic metal, more rock-oriented record, since the self-titled record was very experimental. He also said it would feature more progressive, longer songs and would be the "biggest Avenged Sevenfold record ever." Additionally, he said they were possibly thinking about a concept record
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I'm pretty sure I read in "Metal Hammer" this month that all the songs were written anyway so those hoping Mike's gonna have any input may be disappointed
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Waste of time...respect to him for doing it but they're a terrible, terrible band and Mike isn't gonna make them any better unless they just make the album one big drum solo
And, double-bass patterns too tricky for Mike? Seriously? Unless it's death metal 16ths at 250bpm, he can handle anything on the kicks.
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Waste of time...respect to him for doing it but they're a terrible, terrible band and Mike isn't gonna make them any better unless they just make the album one big drum solo
And, double-bass patterns too tricky for Mike? Seriously? Unless it's death metal 16ths at 250bpm, he can handle anything on the kicks.
Yeah that was me that said that, and I do think that The Rev was better at the kicks than MP. There are a lot of videos of MP playing songs where he doesn't play all the bass parts, for example The Glass Prison on his 'In Constant Motion' DVD, and on numerous songs on the Metropolis Live DVD. I appreciate it is different in a studio to a live setting, and MP may well just be conserving energy, but it still strikes me that double bass is a weak point for him.
That said, I haven't seen him live since BC&SL came out, and like I said it seems that he has improved his speed and stamina recently, but I stand by my opinion that The Rev was better at double bass.
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Waste of time...respect to him for doing it but they're a terrible, terrible band and Mike isn't gonna make them any better unless they just make the album one big drum solo
And, double-bass patterns too tricky for Mike? Seriously? Unless it's death metal 16ths at 250bpm, he can handle anything on the kicks.
Yeah that was me that said that, and I do think that The Rev was better at the kicks than MP. There are a lot of videos of MP playing songs where he doesn't play all the bass parts, for example The Glass Prison on his 'In Constant Motion' DVD, and on numerous songs on the Metropolis Live DVD. I appreciate it is different in a studio to a live setting, and MP may well just be conserving energy, but it still strikes me that double bass is a weak point for him.
Then you shouldn't listen to Lars Ulrich live.
:jamaritard:
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Waste of time...respect to him for doing it but they're a terrible, terrible band and Mike isn't gonna make them any better unless they just make the album one big drum solo
And, double-bass patterns too tricky for Mike? Seriously? Unless it's death metal 16ths at 250bpm, he can handle anything on the kicks.
Yeah that was me that said that, and I do think that The Rev was better at the kicks than MP. There are a lot of videos of MP playing songs where he doesn't play all the bass parts, for example The Glass Prison on his 'In Constant Motion' DVD, and on numerous songs on the Metropolis Live DVD. I appreciate it is different in a studio to a live setting, and MP may well just be conserving energy, but it still strikes me that double bass is a weak point for him.
That said, I haven't seen him live since BC&SL came out, and like I said it seems that he has improved his speed and stamina recently, but I stand by my opinion that The Rev was better at double bass.
That shouldn't be a problem in the studio though. I've never noticed MP to be one to skimp live, but regardless, in the studio he should be able to pull off anything without worrying about conserving his energy for a 3 hour show. And since he's using more and more double kicker in DT's newer songs, like ANTR, he's probably the best he's ever been at it. It doesn't sound like their new album will be focusing on that type of thing as much anyway.
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Waste of time...respect to him for doing it but they're a terrible, terrible band and Mike isn't gonna make them any better unless they just make the album one big drum solo
And, double-bass patterns too tricky for Mike? Seriously? Unless it's death metal 16ths at 250bpm, he can handle anything on the kicks.
Yeah that was me that said that, and I do think that The Rev was better at the kicks than MP. There are a lot of videos of MP playing songs where he doesn't play all the bass parts, for example The Glass Prison on his 'In Constant Motion' DVD, and on numerous songs on the Metropolis Live DVD. I appreciate it is different in a studio to a live setting, and MP may well just be conserving energy, but it still strikes me that double bass is a weak point for him.
That said, I haven't seen him live since BC&SL came out, and like I said it seems that he has improved his speed and stamina recently, but I stand by my opinion that The Rev was better at double bass.
That shouldn't be a problem in the studio though. I've never noticed MP to be one to skimp live, but regardless, in the studio he should be able to pull off anything without worrying about conserving his energy for a 3 hour show. And since he's using more and more double kicker in DT's newer songs, like ANTR, he's probably the best he's ever been at it. It doesn't sound like their new album will be focusing on that type of thing as much anyway.
Yeah I agree, his bass drumming now is definately better than it has been before, but I still think it would be quite an excursion for him playing music which fits the A7X style. They also have a lot of punk style drumming (i.e. very fast snare hits on the 2nd and 4th with bass inbetween) which as far as I can remember Portnoy has never done before, in DT material anyway. I also think that a lot of A7X material has a higher tempo than most of DT's stuff, so that would also be a change for MP
Of course, the new album might be nothing like the older stuff, and I'm sure the guys in A7X have enough respect for MP to let him drum how he likes, but I'm just throwing some thoughts around. Whatever happens, it'll be good
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Waste of time...respect to him for doing it but they're a terrible, terrible band and Mike isn't gonna make them any better unless they just make the album one big drum solo
And, double-bass patterns too tricky for Mike? Seriously? Unless it's death metal 16ths at 250bpm, he can handle anything on the kicks.
Yeah that was me that said that, and I do think that The Rev was better at the kicks than MP. There are a lot of videos of MP playing songs where he doesn't play all the bass parts, for example The Glass Prison on his 'In Constant Motion' DVD, and on numerous songs on the Metropolis Live DVD. I appreciate it is different in a studio to a live setting, and MP may well just be conserving energy, but it still strikes me that double bass is a weak point for him.
That said, I haven't seen him live since BC&SL came out, and like I said it seems that he has improved his speed and stamina recently, but I stand by my opinion that The Rev was better at double bass.
That shouldn't be a problem in the studio though. I've never noticed MP to be one to skimp live, but regardless, in the studio he should be able to pull off anything without worrying about conserving his energy for a 3 hour show. And since he's using more and more double kicker in DT's newer songs, like ANTR, he's probably the best he's ever been at it. It doesn't sound like their new album will be focusing on that type of thing as much anyway.
Yeah I agree, his bass drumming now is definately better than it has been before, but I still think it would be quite an excursion for him playing music which fits the A7X style. They also have a lot of punk style drumming (i.e. very fast snare hits on the 2nd and 4th with bass inbetween) which as far as I can remember Portnoy has never done before, in DT material anyway. I also think that a lot of A7X material has a higher tempo than most of DT's stuff, so that would also be a change for MP
Of course, the new album might be nothing like the older stuff, and I'm sure the guys in A7X have enough respect for MP to let him drum how he likes, but I'm just throwing some thoughts around. Whatever happens, it'll be good
Well I haven't heard any A7X, so I have no idea if Portnoy can play the style, but being a fan of the band, he'd at least be familiar with it, which is a good start. Since it's a new album though, there's no need for him to stick religiously to the same style like if he was playing older material though. And if it's a bit of a new direction, then even better. Hopefully we'll hear a good mix of Portnoy's distinctive drumming style, and some new techniques from him as he adapts to fit the music.
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I've never listened to the band, but I think it's really cool of Mike to do this.
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@Blob, definately, and he also might pick up a few techniques which he brings back to Dream Theater, which would be great :tup
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this should be really good. i love a7x i had seen them play about 5 times and even thought its weird was sad when he died. rev was an amazing drummer.
i think its amazing what MP is doing for them. i am one very pysched person about how this will sound.
also on the issue of drumming i think MP will be fine, the rev was a better double kicker tho. But MP is MP and im sure will be awesome
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After a wee bit of Wiki research I think it seems the songs are already written for the album so it'll be interesting to see if Mike has any creative input at all or if he's just doing it as a session job
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I'd think that MP would do a rev impression for this gig...after all, the best way to pay tribute is to do what the deceased would have done, rather that make it abot MP putting his own stamp on it.
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Yeah guess so, although if he was such a major influence on the guy maybe the band will encourage him to drum as he wants
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I'd think that MP would do a rev impression for this gig...after all, the best way to pay tribute is to do what the deceased would have done, rather that make it abot MP putting his own stamp on it.
I think it will be a balance. MP is his own drummer, so I don't think he'll try to be a 100% carbon copy, but I think he'll definitely want to try and stay true to the rev's style of drumming. I'll be very interested to hear how that blend goes.
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I think he'd get bored if he didn't do a little bit of his own style
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Don't really listen to A7X, so I probably won't even hear the results, but I'd imagine Mike is already pretty busy, so this is a really beautiful thing to do for that band.
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Mike said it in his forums, that the song were already written. he's just a session guy..
https://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/tm.aspx?high=&m=2497524&mpage=2#2497684
for me, mike doing this album is one great news.
but hearing that a7x decided that they wont quit and move on to record the album was even better news, at least for me..
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Maybe Portnoy's greatness will rub off to make them a listenable band, as I really don't like them despite being more into that sort of stuff than other members of this forum.
However, I still give props to both parties for doing this, as it's a great idea.
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Thats really awesome news :metal I would have never imagined these two seperate entities together
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Who?
Seriously?
Avenged Sevenfold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHS3qJdxefY
I'm linking that vdeio becuase it is safe for work and also an official release but if you've never heard of them that is definately one of their more radio friendly songs, and a lot of their material is more complex and heavier. Second Heartbeat :metal
Okay, I've hread of the bnad but I wolud nvrer have gesesud they caleld tmehselevs A7X. And I hanev't hraed any of their muisc. That youtube vdieo is banned in Noarwy for smoe resaon. ???
So bascailly, this news menas noihtng to me.
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Classy all around. Way to go, MP.
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Okay, I've hread of the bnad but I wolud nvrer have gesesud they caleld tmehselevs A7X. And I hanev't hraed any of their muisc. That youtube vdieo is banned in Noarwy for smoe resaon. ???
So bascailly, this news menas noihtng to me.
You either need a new keyboard or a new liver
:splodetard:
BTW, I'm actually pretty excited about this. I wouldn't mind if he toured with them for a bit (even though that is unlikely) as long as a DT tour wouldn't conflict.
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Already said, but, I'm very excited about this. :metal
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Everytime I see the thread title, my mind immediately thinks: "Does Not Compute; Error" :lol
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Avenged Sevenfold? This almost makes me want to stop listening to Dream Theater. Why the fuck is an amazing drummer like Mike Portnoy associating himself with Avenged Fucking Sevenfold?
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Avenged Sevenfold? This almost makes me want to stop listening to Dream Theater. Why the fuck is an amazing drummer like Mike Portnoy associating himself with Avenged Fucking Sevenfold? :facepalm: :facepalm:
Go away.
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Avenged Sevenfold? This almost makes me want to stop listening to Dream Theater. Why the fuck is an amazing drummer like Mike Portnoy associating himself with Avenged Fucking Sevenfold? :facepalm: :facepalm:
Go away.
A7X sucks.
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Whether you like them or not, please don't post if you have nothing more contructive to add than "____ sucks." You are entitled to whatever opinion you like, but please do not troll my forum with such juvenile posts.
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I was replying to his equally juvenile comment.
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You started trolling the thread with your first post. Both posts crossed the line. But this is not really open for debate. Either follow the rules or leave. Now please stop further derailing the thread.
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I'm not the biggest A7X fan, but I'm definitely glad to hear that Mike's doing this. It's very cool of him.
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I really enjoyed A7X's last two albums, and if they're moving in a more progressive direction, that's even better. I'm definitely excited for this album :)
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"Even under normal circumstances, I would've been happy to help the guys out in any way I could as I think Avenged Sevenfold are a great band...but under these incredibly sad and tragic circumstances, I must say I am truly honored to have been asked to play with them and I didn't even have to think twice about saying ‘yes.’
“These guys are a true family and it is an incredibly emotional experience to be here with them for the first time without their lost brother. But they have welcomed me into the family with open arms and there's a real excitement to make the record they had set out to make.
“I am treating my participation on this album with the utmost respect for Jimmy's memory and am remaining as true as possible to the drum parts that he wrote for the songs and the record he wanted to make.
“I want their fans to realize that I'm not trying to step into or fill The Rev's shoes...I'm just merely lacing 'em up for him!"
https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/news/Mike-Portnoy-Comments-on-Drumming-For-Avenged-Sevenfold-20977.aspx
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I almost cried.
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i hate seeing negativity about this. the facebook post is unbelievable
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i hate seeing negativity about this. the facebook post is unbelievable
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i hate seeing negativity about this. the facebook post is unbelievable
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It's spammed with people complaining.
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i hate seeing negativity about this. the facebook post is unbelievable
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It's spammed with people complaining.
I hate opinions.
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i hate seeing negativity about this. the facebook post is unbelievable
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It's spammed with people complaining.
I hate opinions.
One person said, "I lost respect for MP because of this" and I thought, "Wait, so MP being classy as fuck and helping fellow musicians while they're down is...bad?"
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i hate seeing negativity about this. the facebook post is unbelievable
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It's spammed with people complaining.
I hate opinions.
One person said, "I lost respect for MP because of this" and I thought, "Wait, so MP being classy as fuck and helping fellow musicians while they're down is...bad?"
Albert Fish Fucking lame! A7X IS POSER SHIT!
Albert Fish It's sad, Look how bad the musical, taste of the new dream theater fans is...
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i hate seeing negativity about this. the facebook post is unbelievable
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It's spammed with people complaining.
I hate opinions.
One person said, "I lost respect for MP because of this" and I thought, "Wait, so MP being classy as fuck and helping fellow musicians while they're down is...bad?"
Albert Fish Fucking lame! A7X IS POSER SHIT!
Albert Fish It's sad, Look how bad the musical, taste of the new dream theater fans is...
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I'm the dude who called him out saying he's calling MP a poser then :p
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:lol
Nice.
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here's MP comment of the band at 2005
"OK....I'm confused.
I always ASSumed from their image (and name) that they were some kind of Orange County Skate/Pop/Punk band (I assumed something like Blink 182 or Good Charlotte)....but then I saw one of their videos and I said "wow...these guys can play!"...so I picked up their new CD "City Of Evil" and was blown away!
I don't know the story on these guys...if it is trendy or uncool to like them, but these guys are great players!! (picture Paul Gilbert, Joey Jordison and Mike Patton putting together a pop/metal band!)
And they write some really cool, untraditional, almost proggy pop songs, but with catchy hooky choruses....I can't believe these guys are getting the commercial acceptance & exposure they are with a sound that sounds more like Iron Maiden meets DT than anything else that's currently on MTV!
I guess it proves never to judge a book by its cover!
MP"
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:tup Great words from MP
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:tup Great words from MP
My thoughts exactly.
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I don't like A7X's style of music at all, and I still think this is a great thing. It makes no difference to me if MP plays with a band I don't like. I'll probably check out this latest album, and maybe I'll change my mind, and there might be a few A7X fans who want to find out more about DT because of it. It seems like a win-win to me.
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I don't like A7X's style of music at all, and I still think this is a great thing. It makes no difference to me if MP plays with a band I don't like. I'll probably check out this latest album, and maybe I'll change my mind, and there might be a few A7X fans who want to find out more about DT because of it. It seems like a win-win to me.
Well said.
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i hate seeing negativity about this. the facebook post is unbelievable
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It's spammed with people complaining.
"a7x are all a bunch of wankers. Every one of them is expendable, and since their drummer died, that might have shut them up, but nooooO! MP has to sell his soul and drum for them! If a7x had any artistic credibilty, they would stop performing all together, like Led Zeppelin did when JB died. I guess the main difference here is that Led Zeppelin had proper values and respected its members"
yea thats basically the type of people commenting
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i hate seeing negativity about this. the facebook post is unbelievable
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It's spammed with people complaining.
"a7x are all a bunch of wankers. Every one of them is expendable, and since their drummer died, that might have shut them up, but nooooO! MP has to sell his soul and drum for them! If a7x had any artistic credibilty, they would stop performing all together, like Led Zeppelin did when JB died. I guess the main difference here is that Led Zeppelin had proper values and respected its members"
yea thats basically the type of people commenting
Well this guy doesn't know his history.
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MP's thought on recording with A7X:
Even under normal circumstances, I would've been happy to help the guys out in any way I could as I think Avenged Sevenfold are a great band...but under these incredibly sad and tragic circumstances, I must say I am truly honored to have been asked to play with them...and I didn't even have to think twice about saying yes.
These guys are a true family and it is an incredibly emotional experience to be here with them for the first time without their lost brother. But they have welcomed me into the family with open arms and there's a real excitement to make the record they had set out to make...
I am treating my participation on this album with the utmost respect for Jimmy's memory and am remaining as true as possible to the drum parts that he wrote for the songs and the record he wanted to make.
I want their fans to realize that I'm not trying to step into or fill The Rev's shoes...I'm just merely lacing em up for him!
MP
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It makes no difference to me if MP plays with a band I don't like.
It may make no difference to you (and me), but it surely does to a bunch of superficial idiots. One good way to get around them is to not read the FB comments, for instance.
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Is only A7X being bashed? I figured their fans would be bashing portnoy or DT or something.
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It makes no difference to me if MP plays with a band I don't like.
It may make no difference to you (and me), but it surely does to a bunch of superficial idiots. One good way to get around them is to not read the FB comments, for instance.
If MP were drumming for something completely off genre, like a pop punk album, then maybe I could understand people being opposed to it from some idea of "cred". But first of all, this is still a metal album, and second of all, the choice of MP to play on the album would have a more personal decision for the band (and probably MP too) rather than a mere business decision, so I don't see the issue, even as a non-fan of their type of music.
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A lot of the comments on DT's Facebook update are making me feel embarrassed to call myself a DT fan.
Some people need to learn some fucking respect.
Edit: Seriously, WTF is this:
Albert Fish: before I was Happy that the talentless shitbag died. Now as strange as it is, i'm angry..... Fuck mike portnoy... why... you don't realize you've tarnished the dream theater name.. now all of the hot topic kiddies are going to hop on over to dream theater.... shame... METALLICA HAVE SUCKED FOR 20 YEARS DUMBASS.
And he's a member of a group called:
"I'm glad AVENGED SEVENFOLD drummer James Owen Sullivan Is Dead"
WTF IS WRONG WITH SOME PEOPLE?!
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wow.. that's just not right..
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Good god.
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MP's new look with A7X:
(https://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs200.snc3/20768_307889983137_543508137_3546751_5983093_n.jpg)
Found it on facebook.
Only joking though. I think this collaboration will be great. A7X just get better with each album in my opinion.
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Wow, many props to MP.
Agree, even though I havent heard A7X I think it is honorable and a great move by Mike to honor the Rev and help his bandmates in the healing process.
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Class move by MP. He never ceases to amaze me.
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Albert Fish: before I was Happy that the talentless shitbag died. Now as strange as it is, i'm angry..... Fuck mike portnoy... why... you don't realize you've tarnished the dream theater name.. now all of the hot topic kiddies are going to hop on over to dream theater.... shame... METALLICA HAVE SUCKED FOR 20 YEARS DUMBASS.
He also only has 16 friends, rofl. That was kinda my fault, I'm the one that pointed out that by calling A7X fans posers, he is calling MP a poser. :angel:
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Albert Fish: before I was Happy that the talentless shitbag died. Now as strange as it is, i'm angry..... Fuck mike portnoy... why... you don't realize you've tarnished the dream theater name.. now all of the hot topic kiddies are going to hop on over to dream theater.... shame... METALLICA HAVE SUCKED FOR 20 YEARS DUMBASS.
He also only has 16 friends, rofl. That was kinda my fault, I'm the one that pointed out that by calling A7X fans posers, he is calling MP a poser. :angel:
Haha, I noticed that. Probably a damn good reason for that...
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Yeah, I reported him to Facebook for flaming/spamming.
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@ acidrain: There's an ugly side to everything. Somehow, I'm not surprised at all. And I'm sure that this person is enough of a coward to not speak the same words in public instead of writing them down on the internet.
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Is only A7X being bashed? I figured their fans would be bashing portnoy or DT or something.
The worst I've seen the A7X fans say is that Rev is irreplacable.
https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=313764211985&id=8308655582&ref=mf
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Is only A7X being bashed? I figured their fans would be bashing portnoy or DT or something.
The worst I've seen the A7X fans say is that Rev is irreplacable.
https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=313764211985&id=8308655582&ref=mf
Which is honestly really true, Mike Portnoy is a better drummer, but as it comes to being an a7x fan, The Rev was so awesome for the band.
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Yeah, I reported him to Facebook for flaming/spamming.
I reported him too...along with that group he was a member of.
@ acidrain: There's an ugly side to everything. Somehow, I'm not surprised at all. And I'm sure that this person is enough of a coward to not speak the same words in public instead of writing them down on the internet.
Oh, I don't doubt it but it's still very frustrating.
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here's MP comment of the band at 2005
"OK....I'm confused.
I always ASSumed from their image (and name) that they were some kind of Orange County Skate/Pop/Punk band (I assumed something like Blink 182 or Good Charlotte)....but then I saw one of their videos and I said "wow...these guys can play!"...so I picked up their new CD "City Of Evil" and was blown away!
I don't know the story on these guys...if it is trendy or uncool to like them, but these guys are great players!! (picture Paul Gilbert, Joey Jordison and Mike Patton putting together a pop/metal band!)
And they write some really cool, untraditional, almost proggy pop songs, but with catchy hooky choruses....I can't believe these guys are getting the commercial acceptance & exposure they are with a sound that sounds more like Iron Maiden meets DT than anything else that's currently on MTV!
I guess it proves never to judge a book by its cover!
MP"
Pretty much the way I see it also.
Been a hardcore A7X fan for years now. Gotten used to people hating. Glad to see people like Portnoy show respect.
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While I think Avenged Sevenfold is one of the most godawful bands in existence, this is definitely an honorable move on Mike's part.
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Dark Master of Iain, I added you on Facebook :neverusethis:
While I think Avenged Sevenfold is one of the most godawful bands in existence
N00B
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While I think Avenged Sevenfold is one of the most godawful bands in existence, this is definitely an honorable move on Mike's part.
Bjork as avatar = musical opinion invalid.
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While I think Avenged Sevenfold is one of the most godawful bands in existence, this is definitely an honorable move on Mike's part.
Bjork as avatar = musical opinion invalid.
Disrespecting bjork = musical opinion invalid.
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BRB gonna go listen to good music.
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BRB gonna go listen to good music.
Bjork? Which album? Selmasongs is gorgeous, and under-rated.
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Her song Bachelorette is beautiful.
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A lot of the comments on DT's Facebook update are making me feel embarrassed to call myself a DT fan.
Some people need to learn some fucking respect.
Edit: Seriously, WTF is this:
Albert Fish: before I was Happy that the talentless shitbag died. Now as strange as it is, i'm angry..... Fuck mike portnoy... why... you don't realize you've tarnished the dream theater name.. now all of the hot topic kiddies are going to hop on over to dream theater.... shame... METALLICA HAVE SUCKED FOR 20 YEARS DUMBASS.
And he's a member of a group called:
"I'm glad AVENGED SEVENFOLD drummer James Owen Sullivan Is Dead"
WTF IS WRONG WITH SOME PEOPLE?!
god i hate people
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While I think Avenged Sevenfold is one of the most godawful bands in existence, this is definitely an honorable move on Mike's part.
Bjork as avatar = musical opinion invalid.
I don't even like Bjork, but that's just a dumb thing to say.
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Albert Fish: before I was Happy that the talentless shitbag died. Now as strange as it is, i'm angry..... Fuck mike portnoy... why... you don't realize you've tarnished the dream theater name.. now all of the hot topic kiddies are going to hop on over to dream theater.... shame... METALLICA HAVE SUCKED FOR 20 YEARS DUMBASS.
Ladies and Gentlemen: THE FAIL THAT STUMPED THEM ALL.
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:facepalm:
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Albert Fish: before I was Happy that the talentless shitbag died. Now as strange as it is, i'm angry..... Fuck mike portnoy... why... you don't realize you've tarnished the dream theater name.. now all of the hot topic kiddies are going to hop on over to dream theater.... shame... METALLICA HAVE SUCKED FOR 20 YEARS DUMBASS.
Ladies and Gentlemen: THE FAIL THAT STUMPED THEM ALL.
Already posted that, mate.
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Albert Fish: before I was Happy that the talentless shitbag died. Now as strange as it is, i'm angry..... Fuck mike portnoy... why... you don't realize you've tarnished the dream theater name.. now all of the hot topic kiddies are going to hop on over to dream theater.... shame... METALLICA HAVE SUCKED FOR 20 YEARS DUMBASS.
Ladies and Gentlemen: THE FAIL THAT STUMPED THEM ALL.
Already posted that, mate.
Really? Wow, how sad :( Anyway, this guy fails.
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He does. He's quite the tool.
I also posted that he's a member of a group called:
"I'm glad AVENGED SEVENFOLD drummer James Owen Sullivan Is Dead"
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Why do people hate that band so much? Because they have silly stage names and dress up in funny outfits?
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For me, I just don't like their music in the least. If they want to dress the way they do and wear make-up and have stage names or whatever....good for them. I'll have no part in it either way.
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It's really sad that people go being glad of the deaths of persons just because don't like the music they do. As I said in the beginning, A7X is a bad band nowadays (or at least a band whose last two albums I don't like), but that doesn't mean I'm glad that the Rev died or mad at MP because he's working with them and fulfilling a dead and talented youngster's dream. What the fuck is this Albert Douche thinking?
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Why do people hate that band so much? Because they have silly stage names and dress up in funny outfits?
I think it's because people see what they look like, and because of the current trend of scene/hot topic kids, they assume that their music will be a certain way. Sure they have black hair and tattoos, but they do it in the way that Guns'n'Roses dressed a certain way, and styled themselves. in fact, Sevenfold took an active move away from that -core scene.
Compare early A7X
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b279/prostheticsummer/avengedsevenfold_wmf31.jpg)
to recent
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b279/prostheticsummer/AvengedSevenfold1.jpg)
Sure they still have a very strong image, but they're trying to be 'rock stars' now, rather than scene kids. That's how I see it, anyway
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i never knew how many people hated a7x, but i think i big thing has to do with the way they look, as stupid as that is. i even read around the time the rev died, that portnoy was even thrown off by their image, then he heard what they sounded like.
edit: arch benemy out of nowhere with the pics. haha
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Okay, I've hread of the bnad but I wolud nvrer have gesesud they caleld tmehselevs A7X. And I hanev't hraed any of their muisc. That youtube vdieo is banned in Noarwy for smoe resaon. ???
So bascailly, this news menas noihtng to me.
You either need a new keyboard or a new liver
:splodetard:
BTW, I'm actually pretty excited about this. I wouldn't mind if he toured with them for a bit (even though that is unlikely) as long as a DT tour wouldn't conflict.
Actually I was just testing the phenomenon that if the first and last letter of a word are correct your brain can read the word without problems, regardless of the order of the remaining letters.
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Why do people hate that band so much? Because they have silly stage names and dress up in funny outfits?
Or, maybe because we hate anything metalcore-influenced? :justjen
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Last summer when we went to Disney, A7X was easily the most worn band t shirt that I saw.
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DT are definitely getting more exposure because of this. Today I got in my car, and I heard pull me under on the radio. This radio station never plays DT. ever. I had to double check that I wasn't listening to a CD. Then right after the song, the guy talked about Portnoy filling in with A7X on the new album and talked a bit about Dream Theater
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Last summer when we went to Disney, A7X was easily the most worn band t shirt that I saw.
I saw a lot too, but on adults. And, honestly, the band shirt I saw the most was the Jonas Brothers when I went in October 2007.
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I liked A7X before MP told me it was ok to like them.
:neverusethis:
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I'm not big on A7X, but it's cool of MP to do this for them.
I wish their songs sounded more like Beast and the Harlot up to the chorus. The chorus makes me wonder why you would do that to a perfectly good song.
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Thats the best part... ???
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DT are definitely getting more exposure because of this. Today I got in my car, and I heard pull me under on the radio. This radio station never plays DT. ever. I had to double check that I wasn't listening to a CD. Then right after the song, the guy talked about Portnoy filling in with A7X on the new album and talked a bit about Dream Theater
That's cool.
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from mike's twitter..
the drum tracks are done
Just finished the A7X drum tracks...what an amazing experience! Me & Zacky celebrated by getting matching Death Bat tats here in the studio
well that was fast..
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Provided he had a week or two to listen to their demos, he should be able to track them all in a week, I don't see why not.
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oh yeah.. i haven't thought about that..
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oh yeah.. i haven't thought about that..
Did IaW only take 2 weeks to do drums? And that was some complicated stuff.
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from mike's twitter..
the drum tracks are done
Just finished the A7X drum tracks...what an amazing experience! Me & Zacky celebrated by getting matching Death Bat tats here in the studio
well that was fast..
:lol That guy's gotta be running out of skin by now :lol
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I want pictures of those ones...
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I bet he only has his face left to tattoo :lol
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oh yeah.. i haven't thought about that..
Did IaW only take 2 weeks to do drums? And that was some complicated stuff.
IAW was written months and months before they recorded the album wasn't it?
but yeah, i remember MP is a fast learning drummer. he listened and learned 9 overkill song one day before the gig i think..
I bet he only has his face left to tattoo :lol
he's just get a tattoo of tama few days ago.. now a death bat tattoo
well then it's just a matter of time before he tattooed his face :lol
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Well, for a more recent comparison, although partial demos for parts of The Whirlwind had been circulated prior, Mike and the Transatlantic guys wrote the entire 77-minute song, recorded the scratch, and tracked all the drums in a week. So, yeah, I would think Mike could easily come in and track drums for an album's worth of already-written material in that time.
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Well, for a more recent comparison, although partial demos for parts of The Whirlwind had been circulated prior, Mike and the Transatlantic guys wrote the entire 77-minute song, recorded the scratch, and tracked all the drums in a week. So, yeah, I would think Mike could easily come in and track drums for an album's worth of already-written material in that time.
This. Also, he usually nails his drum tracks in 2-3 takes, and sometimes on the first take alone! He's an incredibly fast drummer, and not speed-wise (although he is) but rather learning... I mean, how long did he have to rehearse his cover-band setlists? I know most of the material he did with Yellow Matter Custard, Hammer Of The Gods and Amazing Journey are relatively simple (compared to the complicated drumming with DT), but it was a LOT of material to cover!
-Marc.
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Any recent news on this?
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Last news were 3 weeks ago
"still going strong in the studio. lots of headbanging. synyster gates says hi -zv "
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I love the new album, it's quite possibly their best. :heart
I'm just starting to get into this band, but they're awesome. All 5 cds are wonderful.
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I love the new album, it's quite possibly their best. :heart
I'm just starting to get into this band, but they're awesome. All 5 cds are wonderful.
Only 5? Pffff
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b279/prostheticsummer/DSCF1585.jpg)
I kid, I kid, but seriously you should really get the Live / B Sides album. Diamonds In The Rough has some of the best material they've released since Waking The Fallen, in my opinion