The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded

[fadetoblackdude7]

Reload is nowhere near Kill 'Em All but it is a really good album.

[TAC]

Reload is nowhere near Kill 'Em All but it is a really good album.

 
OK, I'm done. Can you guys name one song off of Reload that I should listen to? First track that gets 3 mentions will be the one. Apparently I'm missing something.

[Scorpion]

I really really like Fixxxer, but I don't think that it'll be your thing.

[TAC]

I'm also familiar with The Memory Remains, so that doesn't count. That's not a bad song, and usually gets a good reaction live.

[OpenYourEyes311]

I love Fixxxer. One of the few songs past Track 4 that I would say are worth listening to. I also like Bad Seed (groovy little song), Where The Wild Things Are (this was a grower for me for sure), and Low Man's Lyric (although I would never argue it's a great Metallica song, it's definitely a great song)

[TAC]

OK, that's two for Fixxer.

[Kotowboy]

1. Fixxxer

2. Carpe Diem Baby

3. Where The Wild Things Are



Listen to those 3 and you'll want to hear the rest. I guarantee it.

[Scorpion]

Wow, I'm really curious what TAC thinks of Fixxxer.

TAC, if you don't like Fixxxer, then I doubt that ReLoad has much has to offer that you might like. Maybe Low Man's Lyrics, which feels - at least in my opinion - very different to anything that Metallica has ever done, before or since, but that's probably it; Fixxxer exemplifies what's good about the Load/ReLoad sound in my opinion, so if it bores you, chances are the rest of ReLoad will too.

[pain of occupation]

"Reload clearly the leftovers "

That's why the worst songs of the lot are on Load.

Ronnie.
Cure.
Poor Twisted Me.

I quit listening to Metallica 9years&9months ago. (Who's counting, right?)
(And finally got my 'talli-tat removed a couple years ago).
While spinning Destrage and contemplating life on my drive home the other night, I considered the idea of revisiting the band. But mostly just for Load/Reload. And especially just for the fun that is Ronnie & Poor Twisted Me.

[TAC]

OK..just spun Fixxer. Definitely better than I remembered. A cool Sabbath feel, if not a bit draggy.



But even on Death Magnetic, it'd still rank about 9th.

[fadetoblackdude7]

Reload is nowhere near Kill 'Em All but it is a really good album.

 
OK, I'm done. Can you guys name one song off of Reload that I should listen to? First track that gets 3 mentions will be the one. Apparently I'm missing something.

Fixxxer and Carpe Diem Baby are the highlights for me

[pogoowner]

After revisiting Reload a bit, I think I need to lower it in my rankings.

[425]

Fixxxer alone is better than all of KEA.

The Unforgiven II alone is better than all of KEA.

Where the Wild Things Are, Low Man's Lyric, The Memory Remains—any of these alone are better than all of KEA.


TAC, I'd say exactly one of the songs you listed is even anywhere near to being a great song—The Four Horsemen. That one would rate 6th on Reload for me.

The other ones you listed are good, but nowhere near great. Those would rate below the aforementioned five plus Fuel on Reload. Most if not all of them would rate below Devil's Dance. Some would rate below Slither Some would not. Let's try this:

Fixxxer
Low Man's Lyric
The Unforgiven II
Where the Wild Things Are
The Memory Remains
The Four Horsemen
Fuel
Devil's Dance
Seek and Destroy
Phantom Lord
Slither
Metal Militia
Hit the Lights
Whiplash

This seems about right to me. I also rank Jump in the Fire and maybe No Remorse ahead of Metal Militia.

And should serve to emphasize a few things about my Metallica tastes:

The Load era is my favorite era of Metallica.

I do not think Kill 'Em All is a particularly strong album.

I do not particularly care for thrash.

TAC and I are not a match. Beyond thrash/not-thrash, the big difference maker is that TAC seems to like the classic metal stuff best, while I like the experimental stuff best. I like Metallica very best when they're not being what we expect Metallica to be. And I like them least when they're doing what I would consider basic thrash.

P.S.: I would rate all of The Black Album and Death Magnetic ahead of all of Kill 'Em All save The Four Horsemen.


EDIT: I'm listening to Reload right now and I like Prince Charming more than I remember. It's certainly good enough to potentially rival Whiplash.

[IDontNotDoThings]

#1: The Four Horsemen
#2: No Remorse
#3: Where The Wild Things Are
#4: Hit The Lights
#5: Phantom Lord
#6: Seek & Destroy
#7: Fuel
#8: Low Man's Lyric
#9: Jump In The Fire
10: Motorbreath
11: Fixxxer
12: Devil's Dance
13: Metal Militia
14: Prince Charming
15: Anesthesia
16: The Memory Remains
17: Attitude
18: Whiplash
19: Better Than You
20: Carpe Diem Baby
21: The Unforgiven II
22: Slither
23: Bad Seed

[Kwyjibo]

"Reload clearly the leftovers "

That's why the worst songs of the lot are on Load.

Ronnie.
Cure.
Poor Twisted Me.

Cure is the only song I actually dislike on Load, while ReLoad has four or five songs that are worth listening to, the rest is simply bland and forgettable.

Re: Kill 'em All

It was really genre defining at the time, and yes, while the band was able to build up, or maybe improve upon, I feel it just doesn't get the respect it deserves. Looking at the rankings, it clearly doesn't.

I recognize and appreciate the influence this album had and I like the raw energy of it, but the songs mostly don't work for me. Maybe it would have been different if I heard KEA at the time when it came out. I came to know Metallica with Master Of Puppets and then made my way backwards.

[ariich]

"Reload clearly the leftovers "

That's why the worst songs of the lot are on Load.

Ronnie.
Cure.
Poor Twisted Me.

Cure is the only song I actually dislike on Load, while ReLoad has four or five songs that are worth listening to, the rest is simply bland and forgettable.

Re: Kill 'em All

It was really genre defining at the time, and yes, while the band was able to build up, or maybe improve upon, I feel it just doesn't get the respect it deserves. Looking at the rankings, it clearly doesn't.

I recognize and appreciate the influence this album had and I like the raw energy of it, but the songs mostly don't work for me. Maybe it would have been different if I heard KEA at the time when it came out. I came to know Metallica with Master Of Puppets and then made my way backwards.

I basically agree with all of this. Even Cure has a really awesome riff, it's just a rubbish song once the vocal sections come in.

[IDontNotDoThings]

I actually kinda like Cure

[Cyclopssss]

I think the vast difference in these albums were the short(er) songs and the melodic way of singing of Hetfield that surprised the hell out of me. Never expected him to lay such emotion in his vocals.

[IDontNotDoThings]

Speaking of Reload...

[Kwyjibo]

NUGGETZ !!!!!!!!!!!!!

or in b4 bad omens 

[BlobVanDam]

The first single was already a pretty bad omen.

[nobloodyname]

  So, yeah, Reload is full of leftovers

Factually speaking, some of the songs on ReLoad were left over from the Load sessions, which makes them leftovers, regardless of quality. 

Hehe!

There is a very angwy person posting in this thread but I can't understand why he appears to be taking it all so personally

As far as Reload track recommendations go, I really like Low Man's Lyric. It's so different for Metallica, perhaps it's a hint of what a James Hetfield solo album would sound like.

[Prog Snob]

Fixxxer alone is better than all of KEA.

The Unforgiven II alone is better than all of KEA.

Where the Wild Things Are, Low Man's Lyric, The Memory Remains—any of these alone are better than all of KEA.


TAC, I'd say exactly one of the songs you listed is even anywhere near to being a great song—The Four Horsemen. That one would rate 6th on Reload for me.

The other ones you listed are good, but nowhere near great. Those would rate below the aforementioned five plus Fuel on Reload. Most if not all of them would rate below Devil's Dance. Some would rate below Slither Some would not. Let's try this:

Fixxxer
Low Man's Lyric
The Unforgiven II
Where the Wild Things Are
The Memory Remains
The Four Horsemen
Fuel
Devil's Dance
Seek and Destroy
Phantom Lord
Slither
Metal Militia
Hit the Lights
Whiplash

This seems about right to me. I also rank Jump in the Fire and maybe No Remorse ahead of Metal Militia.

And should serve to emphasize a few things about my Metallica tastes:

The Load era is my favorite era of Metallica.

I do not think Kill 'Em All is a particularly strong album.

I do not particularly care for thrash.

TAC and I are not a match. Beyond thrash/not-thrash, the big difference maker is that TAC seems to like the classic metal stuff best, while I like the experimental stuff best. I like Metallica very best when they're not being what we expect Metallica to be. And I like them least when they're doing what I would consider basic thrash.

P.S.: I would rate all of The Black Album and Death Magnetic ahead of all of Kill 'Em All save The Four Horsemen.


EDIT: I'm listening to Reload right now and I like Prince Charming more than I remember. It's certainly good enough to potentially rival Whiplash.

I can't believe you spent that much of your time defending a poor album.

[IDontNotDoThings]

  So, yeah, Reload is full of leftovers

Factually speaking, some of the songs on ReLoad were left over from the Load sessions, which makes them leftovers, regardless of quality. 

Hehe!

There is a very angwy person posting in this thread but I can't understand why he appears to be taking it all so personally

Yeah TAC, we've had enough of your shit










imjustkiddingplzdontban

[Kotowboy]

I can't believe you spent that much time defending a poor album.

He wasn't defending Kill Em All.

[BlobVanDam]

This page is giving me cancer.

[Prog Snob]

[TheCountOfNYC]

Every Metallica album has something about it that makes it great. It's kind of silly to me that everyon is arguing over two albums in the band's discography when the simple answer is that they're both awesome.

[Enigmachine]

Every Metallica album has something about it that makes it great. It's kind of silly to me that everyon is arguing over two albums in the band's discography when the simple answer is that they're both awesome.

That doesn't seem to be the general consensus. Load/Reload is widely regarded as pretty meh and St. Anger thought of as one of the worst well-known albums in metal. Both of which I agreed with last time I listened to them.

[425]

I can't believe you spent that much time defending a poor album.

He wasn't defending Kill Em All.

A+ post right here.

Also, Prog Snob, that post was like 300 words. How much time do you think I spent on it? If your answer is higher than "10 minutes," you're quite mistaken.

[The King in Crimson]

I can't believe you spent that much time defending a poor album.

He wasn't defending Kill Em All.

A+ post right here.

Also, Prog Snob, that post was like 300 words. How much time do you think I spent on it? If your answer is higher than "10 minutes," you're quite mistaken.

So it took 9 minutes and 59 seconds to write then?

[Adami]

Seriously guys.....there's a new Metallica album coming out. We even have a track list.


And THIS is the discussion we're having? FOR SHAME.

[425]

Also, Prog Snob, that post was like 300 words. How much time do you think I spent on it? If your answer is higher than "10 minutes," you're quite mistaken.

So it took 9 minutes and 59 seconds to write then?

Exactly. I set a timer before writing each and every one of my posts. In case you're curious, this one took exactly 49 seconds.

[425]

Seriously guys.....there's a new Metallica album coming out. We even have a track list.


And THIS is the discussion we're having? FOR SHAME.

Okay. I don't like the track titles on the new album for the most part. ManUNkind is particularly bad. Some of the titles plus the lyrics on Hardwired also suggest a KEA direction lyrically, which I would really not like to have. I'm particularly apprehensive about the last three. I also don't like that Am I Savage? is an obvious reference to Am I Evil?

The only track title I really like is Halo on Fire. That one is a good title, and I hope it turns out to be a good song. Atlas, Rise! could be good or cheesy depending on what the actual lyrics are to that one.

Overall, judging on the single, artwork and tracklist, this album looks very much like not my thing. It feels like they're trying to recapture a lot of the KEA vibe and image which is A) a weird thing for a band consisting of guys in their 50s to do and B) something I do not want because, as has been established, that's one of my least favorite albums in band history. I am not excited about the prospects of this album at all. But since Metallica is one of my favorite bands, and I did enjoy their last studio album, I will be getting this one and giving it a fair shake—as I have done for all their albums.

[Adami]

I agree with most of that, except that I didn't like the last album.

I've noticed Hetfield really lost his lyric writing abilities in the past few albums. The dude used to write some really great songs lyrically.