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Title: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Marvellous G on January 30, 2010, 05:13:29 PM
I'm not sure if there's another thread like this, but I am not in a good mood at all right now, and I thought it would be nice to have a place for all of us unhappy people to gather here when we're down and WALLOW IN OUR SELF PITY. The thing is, I'm actually being serious. Anyway, anyone else a sad panda at the minute?
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on January 30, 2010, 05:21:30 PM
I've been depressed horribly since dec 26th of 2009.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on January 30, 2010, 05:26:04 PM
You just created my new home on this forum.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: 73109 on January 30, 2010, 05:41:07 PM
I've been depressed horribly since dec 26th of 2009.

Talk. Explain.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on January 30, 2010, 05:43:54 PM
I've been depressed horribly since dec 26th of 2009.

Talk. Explain.

Broke up with my fiance, the only woman I've ever loved.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on January 30, 2010, 05:44:53 PM
I has a sad as well :sadpanda:
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: 73109 on January 30, 2010, 05:45:19 PM
I've been depressed horribly since dec 26th of 2009.

Talk. Explain.

Broke up with my fiance, the only woman I've ever loved.

Oh shit. I get it now. Bro, I'm really sorry. That's fucked up. You doing anything to try to get you out of this state of mind?
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on January 30, 2010, 05:48:14 PM
I've been depressed horribly since dec 26th of 2009.

Talk. Explain.

Broke up with my fiance, the only woman I've ever loved.

Oh shit. I get it now. Bro, I'm really sorry. That's fucked up. You doing anything to try to get you out of this state of mind?

I have no real job outside of my studio which have VERY few hours. So I'm trying to get my condo ready to sell, which of course isn't helping the depression issues. I'd go for a quick rebound score, but I'm butt ugly.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on January 30, 2010, 05:52:48 PM
I guess I have a typical case. was bullied from the start of school until around the 10th grade. I fail with women, I'll be 18 in a few months and I've had three girlfriends, total, period. My longest relationship has been three weeks. I'm better at ruining things than fixing, I don't trust anyone, and my family annoys me. I'm a teenager.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on January 30, 2010, 05:56:17 PM
I guess I have a typical case. was bullied from the start of school until around the 10th grade. I fail with women, I'll be 18 in a few months and I've had three girlfriends, total, period. My longest relationship has been three weeks. I'm better at ruining things than fixing, I don't trust anyone, and my family annoys me. I'm a teenager.

Why are they so short? Who leaves who typically?
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ZBomber on January 30, 2010, 05:56:44 PM
I've been suffering with diagnosed anxiety/depression for well over a year now. Not fun, some days are better than others. The best you can do is just try to keep moving forward.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on January 30, 2010, 06:01:40 PM
I've been suffering with diagnosed anxiety/depression for well over a year now. Not fun, some days are better than others. The best you can do is just try to keep moving forward.

I'd suggest trying to find the root of it.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Space Invader on January 30, 2010, 06:02:05 PM
I guess I have a typical case. was bullied from the start of school until around the 10th grade. I fail with women, I'll be 18 in a few months and I've had three girlfriends, total, period. My longest relationship has been three weeks. I'm better at ruining things than fixing, I don't trust anyone, and my family annoys me. I'm a teenager.

Don't worry about it. I am 18 and I've never had a girlfriend.
Never even kissed a girl.
 :sadpanda:
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on January 30, 2010, 06:06:01 PM
I guess I have a typical case. was bullied from the start of school until around the 10th grade. I fail with women, I'll be 18 in a few months and I've had three girlfriends, total, period. My longest relationship has been three weeks. I'm better at ruining things than fixing, I don't trust anyone, and my family annoys me. I'm a teenager.

Why are they so short? Who leaves who typically?
They leave me.
I guess I have a typical case. was bullied from the start of school until around the 10th grade. I fail with women, I'll be 18 in a few months and I've had three girlfriends, total, period. My longest relationship has been three weeks. I'm better at ruining things than fixing, I don't trust anyone, and my family annoys me. I'm a teenager.

Don't worry about it. I am 18 and I've never had a girlfriend.
Never even kissed a girl.
 :sadpanda:
Better than falling in love with a girl, having sex with her, finding out she just wanted to have sex with you, then her leaving you.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on January 30, 2010, 06:07:12 PM
Go track her down at band camp jim.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Space Invader on January 30, 2010, 06:08:08 PM
I guess I have a typical case. was bullied from the start of school until around the 10th grade. I fail with women, I'll be 18 in a few months and I've had three girlfriends, total, period. My longest relationship has been three weeks. I'm better at ruining things than fixing, I don't trust anyone, and my family annoys me. I'm a teenager.

Don't worry about it. I am 18 and I've never had a girlfriend.
Never even kissed a girl.
 :sadpanda:
Better than falling in love with a girl, having sex with her, finding out she just wanted to have sex with you, then her leaving you.
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That's brutal man. I'm sorry.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Hyperplex on January 30, 2010, 06:08:42 PM
I've suffered from depression for the majority of my life and I pretty much kept it completely hidden from everyone I knew or came into contact with until I was 19. I still have it, some times more debilitating than others, but it isn't as crushing as it used to be for me. It's my lot in life, so I try not to complain about it too much; there are things I have done, can do and am doing to try to help. By far the best medicines for it are my friends and family.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on January 30, 2010, 06:10:41 PM
I guess I have a typical case. was bullied from the start of school until around the 10th grade. I fail with women, I'll be 18 in a few months and I've had three girlfriends, total, period. My longest relationship has been three weeks. I'm better at ruining things than fixing, I don't trust anyone, and my family annoys me. I'm a teenager.

Don't worry about it. I am 18 and I've never had a girlfriend.
Never even kissed a girl.
 :sadpanda:
Better than falling in love with a girl, having sex with her, finding out she just wanted to have sex with you, then her leaving you.

That's brutal man. I'm sorry.
[/quote]It's why I've stressed waiting to some of the younger members.
I've suffered from depression for the majority of my life and I pretty much kept it completely hidden from everyone I knew or came into contact with until I was 19. I still have it, some times more debilitating than others, but it isn't as crushing as it used to be for me. It's my lot in life, so I try not to complain about it too much; there are things I have done, can do and am doing to try to help. By far the best medicines for it are my friends and family.
Pretty much how I feel. Sometimes I wonder why I'm so unhappy, and if it's self inflicted. Sometimes I wonder if I'm just being stupid, or a drama king.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Hyperplex on January 30, 2010, 06:17:43 PM
Depression doesn't listen to logic. I can be fully aware that what I am thinking and/or feeling is completely irrational and contrary to reality, but am still utterly unable to stop thinking or feeling it. I can't argue myself out of it and I can't just change my mind. I think it's that way for most people who suffer from it.

Personally, my depression can be set off by environmental factors, but it doesn't need them; the seeds for it exist in me even when I'm feeling alright. I have gotten better as I have gotten older, but I still have my moments when I simply can't break free from it. Sometimes it's situational, sometimes it's purely emotional and cognitive.

I actually took a very long time to truly realize that there was something "different" going on in my head. As I said previously, no one knew how I felt until I was 19. I didn't even really know that what I was feeling was any different from anyone else until I was probably 14 or 15. I simply took the hurt and the dark thoughts as normal, although I did wonder how other people always seemed to be carefree. The more I've shared with my confidants, the better I've become at controlling my emotions and mood shifts.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on January 30, 2010, 06:20:48 PM
Yeah, I go through seasonal depression. I generally get more sad in the winter. When someone offends me, or flames something I love, I go off. I'm bad at not feeding trolls. I've gotten into a fair amount of flame wars here, and have been threatened to be banned once that I can think of. I'm a very logical person, I MUST rationalize everything. Which makes depression piss me off even more, because I know I'm not being rational.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Hyperplex on January 30, 2010, 06:24:20 PM
Depression (and other disorders and even psychoses) is often linked to an increased creative mind. That doesn't mean non-depressed people aren't creative, but it does somewhat make the link as to why so many great minds suffer from them.

Van Gogh, Nash, Hemingway, Dickinson....
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on January 30, 2010, 06:25:48 PM
Depression (and other disorders and even psychoses) is often linked to an increased creative mind. That doesn't mean non-depressed people aren't creative, but it does somewhat make the link as to why so many great minds suffer from them.

Van Gogh, Nash, Hemingway, Dickinson....

John Myung.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on January 30, 2010, 06:27:02 PM
And by the way it's not that creative people are more prone to disorders, it's usually that artistic people are more emotional than non. And too much emotion is called a disorder.....which I disagree with, but oh well.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Pyroph on January 30, 2010, 06:27:13 PM
I wouldn't say I'm depressed, but have a lot of anxiety. I'm up at college and I have one friend here, but he never wants to do anything. I suffer from a little acne, that I've never been able to figure out how to fix, and none of the people that live around me are people that I'd care to hang out with. Beyond that, I've sort of ignored them, and because of it I never exchange words with them, I don't even go to the house meetings.

 I've always thought that I've had a strong personality, just when it comes to talking with people I can never get it out. Part of me wants to scream out to anyone that I need help/love to talk but I always clam up so no one really thinks anything is wrong.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on January 30, 2010, 06:28:27 PM
I do write a lot of poems...and I don't think I've ever had anyone just straight up tell me I wrote a bad poem. Like the one in my signature, came up with it randomly today.

Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Space Invader on January 30, 2010, 06:30:40 PM
I do write a lot of poems...and I don't think I've ever had anyone just straight up tell me I wrote a bad poem. Like the one in my signature, came up with it randomly today.

And what a bad-ass poem it is.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: lonestar on January 30, 2010, 06:33:57 PM
I too suffer from depression, for a looong time.  What I notice is that people have a misconception about the symptoms.  In my case, there is little desire to strive for the joyful things in life, and it is that constant state of mind that creates a persona that I reflect to the world.  It's not that I don't want to feel the joys of life,  I just have a constant view of myself that I'm not deserving of them, and it is this that propagates itself over all aspects of my personality, whether it be with family, friends, work, or matters of the heart.
I have been working on it for the better part of twenty years now, and especially the last sixteen since my daughter was born, if only for her benefit.  But it is hard to convince yourself that you are a good person worthy of love and attention when for your whole life, deep down inside, you never actually believed it.  I have gotten a lot better, but know that I still have a long way to go.
I should note that this forum has helped me tremendously in being able to honestly express my thoughts, opinions, and beliefs freely as I feel them in my mind and heart, and I feel it is a tremendous credit to all of you, the DTF, that you have accepted them openly, freely, and without prejudice.  For that, I sincerely thank you.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on January 30, 2010, 06:37:20 PM
I too suffer from depression, for a looong time.  What I notice is that people have a misconception about the symptoms.  In my case, there is little desire to strive for the joyful things in life, and it is that constant state of mind that creates a persona that I reflect to the world.  It's not that I don't want to feel the joys of life,  I just have a constant view of myself that I'm not deserving of them, and it is this that propagates itself over all aspects of my personality, whether it be with family, friends, work, or matters of the heart.
I have been working on it for the better part of twenty years now, and especially the last sixteen since my daughter was born, if only for her benefit.  But it is hard to convince yourself that you are a good person worthy of love and attention when for your whole life, deep down inside, you never actually believed it.  I have gotten a lot better, but know that I still have a long way to go.
I should note that this forum has helped me tremendously in being able to honestly express my thoughts, opinions, and beliefs freely as I feel them in my mind and heart, and I feel it is a tremendous credit to all of you, the DTF, that you have accepted them openly, freely, and without prejudice.  For that, I sincerely thank you.
"I'm a worthless piece of shit" depression. That's the worst. Mine mostly stems from an alcoholic father and being bullied. I've been conditioned to believe I'm nothing. Can you think of what started yours? Or is it just completely there for a reason you don't quite understand?
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on January 30, 2010, 06:42:06 PM
I do write a lot of poems...and I don't think I've ever had anyone just straight up tell me I wrote a bad poem. Like the one in my signature, came up with it randomly today.

And what a bad-ass poem it is.
Thank you btw. :)
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on January 30, 2010, 06:42:28 PM
this thread is depressing
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ZBomber on January 30, 2010, 06:43:56 PM
Depression doesn't listen to logic. I can be fully aware that what I am thinking and/or feeling is completely irrational and contrary to reality, but am still utterly unable to stop thinking or feeling it. I can argue myself out of it and I can't just change my mind. I think it's that way for most people who suffer from it.

THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS.

People who dont suffer from depression have a hard time understanding this, because it is a difficult concept. Even when you know something isn't true, your brain will keep hounding on it until it eats away at you.I
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: 73109 on January 30, 2010, 06:48:28 PM
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Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on January 30, 2010, 06:50:34 PM
Depression doesn't listen to logic. I can be fully aware that what I am thinking and/or feeling is completely irrational and contrary to reality, but am still utterly unable to stop thinking or feeling it. I can argue myself out of it and I can't just change my mind. I think it's that way for most people who suffer from it.

THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS.

People who dont suffer from depression have a hard time understanding this, because it is a difficult concept. Even when you know something isn't true, your brain will keep hounding on it until it eats away at you.I
I tend to have hysteria, and paranoia. I don't trust very many people, or in fact, any. Which makes it hard to have a real relationship.

Also, my avatar represents how lonely I feel, and my title "missunderstood" isn't a DT reference, it's just how I feel, and my personal text indicates the drug usage that has come from my depression.

And I'm happy this thread exists now, I like how this could play out, the best feeling is to realize you aren't the only one. I'll probably end up posting a lot on it...
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Arcaeus on January 30, 2010, 07:00:25 PM
Depression doesn't listen to logic. I can be fully aware that what I am thinking and/or feeling is completely irrational and contrary to reality, but am still utterly unable to stop thinking or feeling it. I can argue myself out of it and I can't just change my mind. I think it's that way for most people who suffer from it.

THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS.

People who dont suffer from depression have a hard time understanding this, because it is a difficult concept. Even when you know something isn't true, your brain will keep hounding on it until it eats away at you.

mm, this :-\

this the Lonely Hearts thread for people that suffer from depression, eh? Might need to bookmark this thread...

My life actually isn't horrible, but... I just find it difficult to enjoy anything. I'm rarely ever happy and always feel apathetic or sad; one of my few conduits for emotion, no matter how slight, is music, which is why I hang out around here so much. My other passion is writing, but, alas, I've had writer's block for a few years.

I'm a misanthrope and very disillusioned with the current state of the world, but, harking back to what Hyperplex says, depression doesn't listen to logic, and that applies to my misanthropy. I have a habit of judging others unfairly and as such find it incredibly difficult to connect with people. I believe everyone is inherently evil and animalistic, and I can count the people I trust on one hand, and as stupid as I know that sounds, I can't help but think that way. Fuck, I dropped out of High School just because I hated everyone around me so much, and that's just going to screw me over for my future. :\
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Chino on January 30, 2010, 07:08:57 PM
I went through 2 years of really hardcore depression. This forum is one of the few things that helped keep me sane. I never wanted to take medication for it, but 3 months ago I started taking Zoloft. I must admit, it is the best decision I ever made.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Pyroph on January 30, 2010, 07:12:53 PM
I have a habit of judging others unfairly and as such find it incredibly difficult to connect with people.



Pretty much this. Going to college and hearing what people talk about, and dealing with stuff like this: https://www.iowastatedaily.com/articles/2010/01/24/news/doc4b5d133d4668f127145726.prt (which I firsthand found) is fucking ironic and sad, considering the education these kids get.

Along with what you're saying, I prefer a much more secluded life so I don't have a facebook. I don't like dealing with all the social crap and I feel that life isn't very private with it.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ZBomber on January 30, 2010, 07:32:23 PM
I've been suffering with diagnosed anxiety/depression for well over a year now. Not fun, some days are better than others. The best you can do is just try to keep moving forward.

I'd suggest trying to find the root of it.

I know what things triggered it, but since it seems to be more genetic than circumstantial (my mother and sister both have been dealing with depression) I don't think there is too much I can do.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Arcaeus on January 30, 2010, 07:35:58 PM
I went through 2 years of really hardcore depression. This forum is one of the few things that helped keep me sane. I never wanted to take medication for it, but 3 months ago I started taking Zoloft. I must admit, it is the best decision I ever made.

See, I want to at least try antidepressants, but I don't think they would prescribe me any unless I can prove that I really needed them, and while I do mentally, there's nothing in my life at the moment to really prove that I would :-\

I think my depression could possibly be in part credited to my absolutely ridiculous sleeping schedule... I have no set pattern, sleeping anywhere from 2-16 hours and sometimes getting minor bouts of insomnia and staying up a few days straight at a time. I normally go to bed around 12-3PM :lol I need to fix that... that and the fact every waking hour is spent staring at a screen (although I recently quit the game, one of my characters on World of Warcraft alone was clocked in at 110+ days worth of playing time - meaning I had spent almost a third of 2009 playing that damn game).

I want to get out, be more active and see the world, but there's really been no opportunity for me to do that.

I have a habit of judging others unfairly and as such find it incredibly difficult to connect with people.
Pretty much this. Going to college and hearing what people talk about, and dealing with stuff like this: https://www.iowastatedaily.com/articles/2010/01/24/news/doc4b5d133d4668f127145726.prt (which I firsthand found) is fucking ironic and sad, considering the education these kids get.

Along with what you're saying, I prefer a much more secluded life so I don't have a facebook. I don't like dealing with all the social crap and I feel that life isn't very private with it.

I couldn't even imagine how I would react to college, considering how I felt towards people in just simple high school (and it was a good school. Although people loathed me and [possibly accurately] believed me to be a psychopath, I was only ever in one fight, and, uh... let's just say that I won). I mean, I'm definitely not the most moral and conservative of people (due in part to my apathy and misanthropy), but the average people today are such detached, selfish, disgusting, hypocritical bigots filled with misplaced pride that are just so fucking stupid... and here in California, everyone is made of plastic.

...I'm doing it again :lol sorry, end of bitter spoiled teenaged mountain dew & misanthropy-fueled rant.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on January 30, 2010, 07:37:26 PM
It's easy for me to fall into depression, although anxiety seems to be the major factor in my life, if I don't exercise and keep stress in check.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Chino on January 30, 2010, 07:40:56 PM
I went through 2 years of really hardcore depression. This forum is one of the few things that helped keep me sane. I never wanted to take medication for it, but 3 months ago I started taking Zoloft. I must admit, it is the best decision I ever made.

See, I want to at least try antidepressants, but I don't think they would prescribe me any unless I can prove that I really needed them, and while I do mentally, there's nothing in my life at the moment to really prove that I would :-\



I don't know how true this statement is concerning your situation, but if you told any doctor that you wish death upon yourself, I guarantee you will get meds.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Rina on January 30, 2010, 07:42:21 PM
I went through 2 years of really hardcore depression. This forum is one of the few things that helped keep me sane. I never wanted to take medication for it, but 3 months ago I started taking Zoloft. I must admit, it is the best decision I ever made.

See, I want to at least try antidepressants, but I don't think they would prescribe me any unless I can prove that I really needed them, and while I do mentally, there's nothing in my life at the moment to really prove that I would :-\



I don't know how true this statement is concerning your situation, but if you told any doctor that you wish death upon yourself, I guarantee you will get meds.

Even if you check yourself into a hospital explaining that, they should instantly do whatever they can to help, which would include meds.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: blackngold29 on January 30, 2010, 07:47:20 PM
I was depressed from about 10th grade through my first year of college. I'm now in my third year and thought it was behind me and I was actually doing pretty well. I didn't date anyone in high school, mostly because I wanted to avoid all that high school dating drama bullshit -- not that I got many offers.

So a few months ago I meet this girl who seemed to take an intrest in me. And finally three weeks ago -- after not sleeping for a week -- I get the balls to ask her out and she said yes... and now she's pretty much ignored my existance since then.

I asked her if I did something wrong, she says no, says it's other stuff in her life, but doesn't really cheer up when we're around one another. So I have no fricking clue what I did. I thought her saying no would be the worst, but at least I would know where she stands then. This is just torture.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Arcaeus on January 30, 2010, 07:49:20 PM
I went through 2 years of really hardcore depression. This forum is one of the few things that helped keep me sane. I never wanted to take medication for it, but 3 months ago I started taking Zoloft. I must admit, it is the best decision I ever made.

See, I want to at least try antidepressants, but I don't think they would prescribe me any unless I can prove that I really needed them, and while I do mentally, there's nothing in my life at the moment to really prove that I would :-\

I don't know how true this statement is concerning your situation, but if you told any doctor that you wish death upon yourself, I guarantee you will get meds.

If I said I wished death upon everyone else would they give me the damn meds or commit me to a mental hospital? :) No, I'm joking, but I'm not suicidal (I used to be, and did take therapy during that time, and while I've gotten better I still feel I need them) and I don't have any murderous intent (except towards the blond women on E! and VH1. No, really, they're not people, they're animals, I'll go fucking Patrick Bateman on their asses).

Eventually I realized how much worse off the other patients at that place were, and thought to myself that I had no right to be there, since my life, admittedly, does not suck. Eventually I stopped going; but it's not a situational thing regarding events in my life, it's a mental thing I can't help, and it's becoming worse with each day I'm stuck with these thoughts. I regret not taking the meds now. Meh...
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on January 30, 2010, 07:53:06 PM
I've been depressed horribly since dec 26th of 2009.

Talk. Explain.

Broke up with my fiance, the only woman I've ever loved.

I'm very sorry to hear this, I remember reading a little about it in the Lonely Hearts thread

One of my greatest strengths is that I'm very optimistic and I'm very good at keeping my head up while under  a lot of pressure. I was once homeless for a month which was completely my fault for being absolutely stupid (didn't want to stress my parents either especially my mom who already works very hard)and I was as happy as I could be because I knew I could pull through and I did.

Funny enough I read this thread and this past month has been the hardest I've ever had in my life, I'm plagued by stresses of graduating from school and work but what really has me down is my ex. To make it short, I was together with a girl for a few years, bought a ring and she broke it off and we didn't speak for about 4 months. She has recently shown up back in my life and we had a lot of discussions about our past. I at one point, realized all my drive and motivation had been misplaced and cost my personal relationships with everyone, and I mean everyone. Now I'm trying to rebuild but for the first time in my life I can't just move on and accept it, it's like a constant body ache that won't go away.

Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on January 30, 2010, 07:53:27 PM
I went through 2 years of really hardcore depression. This forum is one of the few things that helped keep me sane. I never wanted to take medication for it, but 3 months ago I started taking Zoloft. I must admit, it is the best decision I ever made.

See, I want to at least try antidepressants, but I don't think they would prescribe me any unless I can prove that I really needed them, and while I do mentally, there's nothing in my life at the moment to really prove that I would :-\



I don't know how true this statement is concerning your situation, but if you told any doctor that you wish death upon yourself, I guarantee you will get meds.

Even if you check yourself into a hospital explaining that, they should instantly do whatever they can to help, which would include meds.

I would think this
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on January 30, 2010, 07:53:36 PM
I was depressed from about 10th grade through my first year of college. I'm now in my third year and thought it was behind me and I was actually doing pretty well. I didn't date anyone in high school, mostly because I wanted to avoid all that high school dating drama bullshit -- not that I got many offers.

So a few months ago I meet this girl who seemed to take an intrest in me. And finally three weeks ago -- after not sleeping for a week -- I get the balls to ask her out and she said yes... and now she's pretty much ignored my existance since then.

I asked her if I did something wrong, she says no, says it's other stuff in her life, but doesn't really cheer up when we're around one another. So I have no fricking clue what I did. I thought her saying no would be the worst, but at least I would know where she stands then. This is just torture.
Are you still going out with her?
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: blackngold29 on January 30, 2010, 07:55:53 PM
I was depressed from about 10th grade through my first year of college. I'm now in my third year and thought it was behind me and I was actually doing pretty well. I didn't date anyone in high school, mostly because I wanted to avoid all that high school dating drama bullshit -- not that I got many offers.

So a few months ago I meet this girl who seemed to take an intrest in me. And finally three weeks ago -- after not sleeping for a week -- I get the balls to ask her out and she said yes... and now she's pretty much ignored my existance since then.

I asked her if I did something wrong, she says no, says it's other stuff in her life, but doesn't really cheer up when we're around one another. So I have no fricking clue what I did. I thought her saying no would be the worst, but at least I would know where she stands then. This is just torture.
Are you still going out with her?
I don't really know. She said she would go to a movie, I just had to give her a day. I've asked her a few times and she's always busy. It doesn't even have to be a "date" I just like spending time with her.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Hyperplex on January 30, 2010, 07:56:30 PM
And by the way it's not that creative people are more prone to disorders, it's usually that artistic people are more emotional than non. And too much emotion is called a disorder.....which I disagree with, but oh well.

That is not at all what I meant or was trying to say. It has been shown that people who suffer from depression also happen to be deeper thinkers, potentially more creative and possibly more ingenious. This is hypothesized to be due to the different ways the brain functions based on neurotransmitter levels as well as through emotional responses.

It under no circumstances deems emotion a disorder or that creatives are more prone to disorders. It simply means the mental facets that are in place in a depressed person's brain can often coexist, and in some cases nurture, a more creative or deep mind.

Emotion is not the disorder; distorted emotion is. Emotional people are not necessarily depressed and depressed people are not necessarily more emotional. Many depressive people are rather subdued in outward displays of emotion and internalize much of what they are feeling. One does not need to be a "drama queen/king" to suffer from depression.

In the words of a therapist I saw when I was in college: "Many who call attention to their 'depression' are in fact merely sad. Don't make the mistake of thinking you're simply sad and then getting mad that things don't change."

He told me that I had to talk to people more and avoid bottling my thoughts inside my mind; if I continued internalizing I was going to overburden myself which would ultimately lead to self-destruction and, even more worrisome to me, hurting those I care about.

......I really get off on tangents and babble in this thread, don't I?
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on January 30, 2010, 07:56:57 PM
I went through 2 years of really hardcore depression. This forum is one of the few things that helped keep me sane. I never wanted to take medication for it, but 3 months ago I started taking Zoloft. I must admit, it is the best decision I ever made.

See, I want to at least try antidepressants, but I don't think they would prescribe me any unless I can prove that I really needed them, and while I do mentally, there's nothing in my life at the moment to really prove that I would :-\



I don't know how true this statement is concerning your situation, but if you told any doctor that you wish death upon yourself, I guarantee you will get meds.

Even if you check yourself into a hospital explaining that, they should instantly do whatever they can to help, which would include meds.

I would think this
You would get standard Psychward treatment, suicide watch for 75 hours, meds, etc etc.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on January 30, 2010, 07:59:22 PM
I was depressed from about 10th grade through my first year of college. I'm now in my third year and thought it was behind me and I was actually doing pretty well. I didn't date anyone in high school, mostly because I wanted to avoid all that high school dating drama bullshit -- not that I got many offers.

So a few months ago I meet this girl who seemed to take an intrest in me. And finally three weeks ago -- after not sleeping for a week -- I get the balls to ask her out and she said yes... and now she's pretty much ignored my existance since then.

I asked her if I did something wrong, she says no, says it's other stuff in her life, but doesn't really cheer up when we're around one another. So I have no fricking clue what I did. I thought her saying no would be the worst, but at least I would know where she stands then. This is just torture.
Are you still going out with her?
I don't really know. She said she would go to a movie, I just had to give her a day. I've asked her a few times and she's always busy. It doesn't even have to be a "date" I just like spending time with her.
I hate when you love someone who just wants to ignore you. If you want some simple advice, dump her, and move on. Unless she starts to ship up, get her out of your life. It's the best thing you can do.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Arcaeus on January 30, 2010, 08:00:40 PM
Yeah, no thanks. I don't want to create any unnecessary problems in my life.

and I quite enjoy your babbling, Hyperplex :tup

haha, even though I'm making myself sound like a pathetic idiot, I kinda feel better posting in this thread
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Hyperplex on January 30, 2010, 08:04:03 PM
There are two empirical things (read: not family, relationships or "intangibles" that occur in life) that have helped my depression: therapy and medication.

Doctors nowadays are incredibly keen on throwing prescriptions at problems, especially mental ones. Personally, I feel antidepressant medication is a huge boon for treatment, but only if the patient needs it. There are limitations to what medicine can do. If one's depression is chemical in nature, then medication can help. A chemical imbalance, most commonly a deficiency of seratonin in synapses, has no bearing on environmental factors, so saying "there isn't anything in my life right now that makes medication worthwhile" is an inherently false assumption. There wasn't much in my life that would "deem depression acceptable" when I suffered from it the worst, but I still had an imbalance that hurt me greatly. Even as I say that, taking medication as a panacea for all your hurts is also a false belief. One may not have an imbalance, or you may be like I am: needing medication but also truly needing a guiding hand in how to deal with emotional responses.

I went to therapy as a way of learning to express myself and my emotions. The biggest thing I got out of all of it was being able to articulate to those I care about how I feel, so I didn't ruin the relationships that meant the most to me. Do I still suffer? Absolutely. Do I still overreact and get horrifically depressed, sometimes over the smallest and stupidest things? Yes. But I'm better than I used to be.

All that is to say just because your environment isn't depressing, it doesn't mean you can't be depressed, and of course, vice versa.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: blackngold29 on January 30, 2010, 08:05:39 PM
I was depressed from about 10th grade through my first year of college. I'm now in my third year and thought it was behind me and I was actually doing pretty well. I didn't date anyone in high school, mostly because I wanted to avoid all that high school dating drama bullshit -- not that I got many offers.

So a few months ago I meet this girl who seemed to take an intrest in me. And finally three weeks ago -- after not sleeping for a week -- I get the balls to ask her out and she said yes... and now she's pretty much ignored my existance since then.

I asked her if I did something wrong, she says no, says it's other stuff in her life, but doesn't really cheer up when we're around one another. So I have no fricking clue what I did. I thought her saying no would be the worst, but at least I would know where she stands then. This is just torture.
Are you still going out with her?
I don't really know. She said she would go to a movie, I just had to give her a day. I've asked her a few times and she's always busy. It doesn't even have to be a "date" I just like spending time with her.
I hate when you love someone who just wants to ignore you. If you want some simple advice, dump her, and move on. Unless she starts to ship up, get her out of your life. It's the best thing you can do.
I know that's what I should do, but it's so hard when I care about her as much as I do. It kills me becasue I feel like I'm making her sad and I'd stop asking in a second if she just told me to... but she hasn't, so that still kind of gives me some hope. We work together, so we're kind of forced to talk.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Arcaeus on January 30, 2010, 08:08:32 PM
If one's depression is chemical in nature, then medication can help. A chemical imbalance, most commonly a deficiency of seratonin in synapses, has no bearing on environmental factors, so saying "there isn't anything in my life right now that makes medication worthwhile" is an inherently false assumption.

All that is to say just because your environment isn't depressing, it doesn't mean you can't be depressed, and of course, vice versa.

Yeah... when I was taking therapy, they did indeed tell me I had a chemical imbalance. I chose to ignore it, I guess. I was afraid it would have too much of an effect on my creativity. But I have none of that anymore anyways...
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Hyperplex on January 30, 2010, 08:12:56 PM
The medicine affects different people in different ways. For me, it simply makes my head a little clearer so I am able to control my emotions better than I otherwise could. It doesn't heal me or cloud me.

I've known some people who feel the medicine changes who they are or numbs them. Many of them would prefer to hurt than to feel nothing at all. It's inherently personal.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Arcaeus on January 30, 2010, 08:16:50 PM
My mind is cloudy as it is, and while I'm not expecting it to heal me it would be nice if my head was a bit clearer and my more strong (negative) emotions under control. I'm just afraid it may make things worse... but my life's been without change for the past three years since I dropped out, so it's a risk I think I should take.

I may be going back to school soon... and if I do so, I'll get myself a haircut, some meds, and try to make things right. :)
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: blackngold29 on January 30, 2010, 08:17:10 PM
I never took meds. Not sure what I thought they would do to me.

Serj Tankian comes to mind:
Anti-depressants
Controlling tools of your system
Making life more tolerable
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on January 30, 2010, 08:18:25 PM
I was depressed from about 10th grade through my first year of college. I'm now in my third year and thought it was behind me and I was actually doing pretty well. I didn't date anyone in high school, mostly because I wanted to avoid all that high school dating drama bullshit -- not that I got many offers.

So a few months ago I meet this girl who seemed to take an intrest in me. And finally three weeks ago -- after not sleeping for a week -- I get the balls to ask her out and she said yes... and now she's pretty much ignored my existance since then.

I asked her if I did something wrong, she says no, says it's other stuff in her life, but doesn't really cheer up when we're around one another. So I have no fricking clue what I did. I thought her saying no would be the worst, but at least I would know where she stands then. This is just torture.
Are you still going out with her?
I don't really know. She said she would go to a movie, I just had to give her a day. I've asked her a few times and she's always busy. It doesn't even have to be a "date" I just like spending time with her.
I hate when you love someone who just wants to ignore you. If you want some simple advice, dump her, and move on. Unless she starts to ship up, get her out of your life. It's the best thing you can do.
I know that's what I should do, but it's so hard when I care about her as much as I do. It kills me becasue I feel like I'm making her sad and I'd stop asking in a second if she just told me to... but she hasn't, so that still kind of gives me some hope. We work together, so we're kind of forced to talk.
When was the last time you had an extremely deep conversation?
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Hyperplex on January 30, 2010, 08:19:56 PM
It's a worthwhile shot, even if you try them, hate them and stop them. An avenue of potential help is better than nothing at all. At the very worst, they don't work and you're no worse off.

I think I've revealed more in this thread in a few hours than in a long time posting here. I'm not usually this open.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dr. DTVT on January 30, 2010, 08:20:26 PM
You know what's depressing?  Tongue depressers.  Man, they really depress...

sorry, I was trying to put a smile on all your faces.  I'm not depressed, but I think most of you have the same problem.  You see yourselves like  :|, but in reality you are all :2metal: , and have a hard time reconciling that fact because the world is full of :neverusethis: who don't realize you are :2metal:

Wish I could offer more than moral support - but just know that you can and will get over it.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on January 30, 2010, 08:22:45 PM
I've never taken legal antidepresent drugs.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Arcaeus on January 30, 2010, 08:23:14 PM
It's a worthwhile shot, even if you try them, hate them and stop them. An avenue of potential help is better than nothing at all. At the very worst, they don't work and you're no worse off.

I think I've revealed more in this thread in a few hours than in a long time posting here. I'm not usually this open.

Likewise, but you've had very helpful things to share :tup Thank you.

and, uh... hm... very... insightful, dreamtheatervt :) Thank you too
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Chino on January 30, 2010, 08:23:19 PM
My problem was that people expected me to be all  :metal, but in reality I'm really all  :hat. It makes me want to  :facepalm:, resulting in  :sadpanda:
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: blackngold29 on January 30, 2010, 08:26:31 PM
I was depressed from about 10th grade through my first year of college. I'm now in my third year and thought it was behind me and I was actually doing pretty well. I didn't date anyone in high school, mostly because I wanted to avoid all that high school dating drama bullshit -- not that I got many offers.

So a few months ago I meet this girl who seemed to take an intrest in me. And finally three weeks ago -- after not sleeping for a week -- I get the balls to ask her out and she said yes... and now she's pretty much ignored my existance since then.

I asked her if I did something wrong, she says no, says it's other stuff in her life, but doesn't really cheer up when we're around one another. So I have no fricking clue what I did. I thought her saying no would be the worst, but at least I would know where she stands then. This is just torture.
Are you still going out with her?
I don't really know. She said she would go to a movie, I just had to give her a day. I've asked her a few times and she's always busy. It doesn't even have to be a "date" I just like spending time with her.
I hate when you love someone who just wants to ignore you. If you want some simple advice, dump her, and move on. Unless she starts to ship up, get her out of your life. It's the best thing you can do.
I know that's what I should do, but it's so hard when I care about her as much as I do. It kills me becasue I feel like I'm making her sad and I'd stop asking in a second if she just told me to... but she hasn't, so that still kind of gives me some hope. We work together, so we're kind of forced to talk.
When was the last time you had an extremely deep conversation?
I spent about four hours with her the night I asked her, she was fine then. She said yes, we hugged each good bye and she hasn't said much since. We've talked a few times since then, but only breifly when we were alone and she kept insisting that I hadn't done anything wrong. Her actions are speaking louder though. I'm gonna try a few more times to get her to talk, maybe it really is the other stuff she's worried about; which is part of the reason I want to take her out and get her mind off stuff. I just don't want to frak it up so bad that we can't go back to being friends.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Hyperplex on January 30, 2010, 08:26:48 PM
...And the thread deteriorates into a sticky mix of emoticons and syrupy discharge...saved at the last second.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on January 30, 2010, 08:36:08 PM
I was depressed from about 10th grade through my first year of college. I'm now in my third year and thought it was behind me and I was actually doing pretty well. I didn't date anyone in high school, mostly because I wanted to avoid all that high school dating drama bullshit -- not that I got many offers.

So a few months ago I meet this girl who seemed to take an intrest in me. And finally three weeks ago -- after not sleeping for a week -- I get the balls to ask her out and she said yes... and now she's pretty much ignored my existance since then.

I asked her if I did something wrong, she says no, says it's other stuff in her life, but doesn't really cheer up when we're around one another. So I have no fricking clue what I did. I thought her saying no would be the worst, but at least I would know where she stands then. This is just torture.
Are you still going out with her?
I don't really know. She said she would go to a movie, I just had to give her a day. I've asked her a few times and she's always busy. It doesn't even have to be a "date" I just like spending time with her.
I hate when you love someone who just wants to ignore you. If you want some simple advice, dump her, and move on. Unless she starts to ship up, get her out of your life. It's the best thing you can do.
I know that's what I should do, but it's so hard when I care about her as much as I do. It kills me becasue I feel like I'm making her sad and I'd stop asking in a second if she just told me to... but she hasn't, so that still kind of gives me some hope. We work together, so we're kind of forced to talk.
When was the last time you had an extremely deep conversation?
I spent about four hours with her the night I asked her, she was fine then. She said yes, we hugged each good bye and she hasn't said much since. We've talked a few times since then, but only breifly when we were alone and she kept insisting that I hadn't done anything wrong. Her actions are speaking louder though. I'm gonna try a few more times to get her to talk, maybe it really is the other stuff she's worried about; which is part of the reason I want to take her out and get her mind off stuff. I just don't want to frak it up so bad that we can't go back to being friends.
My last girlfriend was very closed off emotionally, she didn't like to talk, she didn't like to vent, she didn't like to tell me stuff. I'm the opposite, I HAVE to tell people stuff, and I NEED to know what is going on in there life. So, if you're like me, her being that closed off is killing you on the inside. Try to get her opened up, and if she can't be, then the relationship is going nowhere, and should be ended, before you hurt yourself more.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: lonestar on January 30, 2010, 08:38:16 PM
I too suffer from depression, for a looong time.  What I notice is that people have a misconception about the symptoms.  In my case, there is little desire to strive for the joyful things in life, and it is that constant state of mind that creates a persona that I reflect to the world.  It's not that I don't want to feel the joys of life,  I just have a constant view of myself that I'm not deserving of them, and it is this that propagates itself over all aspects of my personality, whether it be with family, friends, work, or matters of the heart.
I have been working on it for the better part of twenty years now, and especially the last sixteen since my daughter was born, if only for her benefit.  But it is hard to convince yourself that you are a good person worthy of love and attention when for your whole life, deep down inside, you never actually believed it.  I have gotten a lot better, but know that I still have a long way to go.
I should note that this forum has helped me tremendously in being able to honestly express my thoughts, opinions, and beliefs freely as I feel them in my mind and heart, and I feel it is a tremendous credit to all of you, the DTF, that you have accepted them openly, freely, and without prejudice.  For that, I sincerely thank you.
"I'm a worthless piece of shit" depression. That's the worst. Mine mostly stems from an alcoholic father and being bullied. I've been conditioned to believe I'm nothing. Can you think of what started yours? Or is it just completely there for a reason you don't quite understand?
I know exactly where mine comes from.  It is a matter a little too personal for this place, but I do have a support circle for it.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dr. DTVT on January 30, 2010, 08:39:40 PM
Well, there is no one cure-all for depression, and for the most part people have given the best advice there is - see a professional.  You'd be amazed at what you can accomplish meeting with someone once a week.  As for my previous post, I just believe a chuckle every once in a while is needed - and I was subtlely telling you all that you are cool the way you are  :tup

And blackngold29, I know what you mean about dating someone closed off emotionally.  You're right, if they can't open up and you''re an open person, its going to eat you alive.

And Lonestar, you > :godisgood: , and that's sayin' something.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Chino on January 30, 2010, 08:40:02 PM
There is one thing that is a universal cure for depression....

















BACON!
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on January 30, 2010, 08:41:12 PM
Please guys, don't derail this thread...
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: blackngold29 on January 30, 2010, 08:43:26 PM
I was depressed from about 10th grade through my first year of college. I'm now in my third year and thought it was behind me and I was actually doing pretty well. I didn't date anyone in high school, mostly because I wanted to avoid all that high school dating drama bullshit -- not that I got many offers.

So a few months ago I meet this girl who seemed to take an intrest in me. And finally three weeks ago -- after not sleeping for a week -- I get the balls to ask her out and she said yes... and now she's pretty much ignored my existance since then.

I asked her if I did something wrong, she says no, says it's other stuff in her life, but doesn't really cheer up when we're around one another. So I have no fricking clue what I did. I thought her saying no would be the worst, but at least I would know where she stands then. This is just torture.
Are you still going out with her?
I don't really know. She said she would go to a movie, I just had to give her a day. I've asked her a few times and she's always busy. It doesn't even have to be a "date" I just like spending time with her.
I hate when you love someone who just wants to ignore you. If you want some simple advice, dump her, and move on. Unless she starts to ship up, get her out of your life. It's the best thing you can do.
I know that's what I should do, but it's so hard when I care about her as much as I do. It kills me becasue I feel like I'm making her sad and I'd stop asking in a second if she just told me to... but she hasn't, so that still kind of gives me some hope. We work together, so we're kind of forced to talk.
When was the last time you had an extremely deep conversation?
I spent about four hours with her the night I asked her, she was fine then. She said yes, we hugged each good bye and she hasn't said much since. We've talked a few times since then, but only breifly when we were alone and she kept insisting that I hadn't done anything wrong. Her actions are speaking louder though. I'm gonna try a few more times to get her to talk, maybe it really is the other stuff she's worried about; which is part of the reason I want to take her out and get her mind off stuff. I just don't want to frak it up so bad that we can't go back to being friends.
My last girlfriend was very closed off emotionally, she didn't like to talk, she didn't like to vent, she didn't like to tell me stuff. I'm the opposite, I HAVE to tell people stuff, and I NEED to know what is going on in there life. So, if you're like me, her being that closed off is killing you on the inside. Try to get her opened up, and if she can't be, then the relationship is going nowhere, and should be ended, before you hurt yourself more.
Yeah, I definately have to ask her questions to get her to talk, but she has a few times, which is good I guess. I actually am usually pretty quiet too, and I think that's part of why I like her, because she'll actully listen to me. I'm hoping that she's not taking it that all I do is complain though.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on January 30, 2010, 10:20:19 PM
It really sucks when someone you love never gives you a chance to see them in a good light.







Anyways, as far as I go, I'm pretty much always depressed, frustrated, and lonely. All the time. But it's not so bad, because I also like to write songs, and I think having a constant cloud over me is good for writing music. To any who will understand, and I hope this doesn't come off as sounding stupid or anything, I can really relate myself to Steven Wilson.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on January 31, 2010, 12:15:34 AM
I'm normally okay but when I went back to Jersey in December I got pretty miserable dealing with my asshole brother and came back to CO totally unmotivated. I don't know if depression is quite the right word (I spent a lot of time from age 16-20ish being really depressed) but it's something.

Blah.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: SilentFox on January 31, 2010, 12:29:52 AM
A couple people have mentioned Zoloft.  I tried Zoloft for a month, but got off it because I noticed that while it made my emotions stable, it made my emotions boring.  While I was never depressed, I was never ecstatic.  During workouts and running, I would always count on that adhrenaline rush to pull me through, but with Zoloft, that disappeared.  Not even prescribed medications help me...

Hey, all you guys that are depressed, tomorrow is the first of February.  Whaddya say we make a goal to try our hardest to face our problems, just for one month?  Failing with girls, being out of shape, being overweight, being lazy, wasting days away, etc.  Let's try to change all that we can, and be the best we can be, just for this one month!  What say you?
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on January 31, 2010, 12:35:29 AM
I can't write songs about that stuff!
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on January 31, 2010, 08:21:57 AM
A couple people have mentioned Zoloft.  I tried Zoloft for a month, but got off it because I noticed that while it made my emotions stable, it made my emotions boring.  While I was never depressed, I was never ecstatic.  During workouts and running, I would always count on that adhrenaline rush to pull me through, but with Zoloft, that disappeared.  Not even prescribed medications help me...

Hey, all you guys that are depressed, tomorrow is the first of February.  Whaddya say we make a goal to try our hardest to face our problems, just for one month?  Failing with girls, being out of shape, being overweight, being lazy, wasting days away, etc.  Let's try to change all that we can, and be the best we can be, just for this one month!  What say you?
The, uh, biggest problem with being depressed is that it tends to become what you're used to, and makes you completely unmotivated. First thing that came to mind when I read your idea, was dread.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Marvellous G on January 31, 2010, 10:57:31 AM
I do often have a lot of fun, but then after I've been out with friends for most of the day I come back and realise the key source of my depression- I'm 16, and I go to an all boys school, and I'm not really in the 'popular crowd' so to speak, so I'm not out partying with girls like I see people in my year doing all the time. I know barely any girls out of school, which is quite sad. My comfort is my sister was the same way until Uni, where she quickly found a boyfriend, so I'm hoping the same will happen for me, but still, to be 16 and not be seeing any girls or out partying kinda sucks.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Tuneman on January 31, 2010, 11:30:02 AM
Listen im not going to preach because nobody is happy all the time but I think I can help as depression was something I recently "beat".

I hear a lot in this thread about girls. But the creation of this thread is exactly what is wrong. You need to realize that these girls will not make you happy.  Happiness comes from inside, not from someone else. It is a skill you will need to practice.  Start by kicking the stupid habit of punishing yourself by thinking of these girls. It isn't easy, no doubt, but take a practical approach and realize that it is not healthy to think about past girlfriends or fiances.   I know it sounds like a generalization, but the only thing that is wrong here is that you are sad.  If a girl broke your heart it sucks, but then it your fault if you let it continue to be broken.

The only, only thing you can do to shake off the depression is to see that it is a bad habit you need to get rid of.  Practice happiness, do not try to find it in someone else or some job, or experience.  Do not "hope" for someone or something to come along to fix things.  You have all the tools you need.

Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on January 31, 2010, 11:32:10 AM
Depression isn't a disease that you "beat". It's a description of how people naturally feel. Some people feel it more so than other people, but at no point should it actually be gone.


But I have a feeling everyone else buys into the whole "only be happy, and if you're not happy, do things that make you happy or take meds". So whatever.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Marvellous G on January 31, 2010, 11:34:01 AM
Depression isn't a disease that you "beat". It's a description of how people naturally feel. Some people feel it more so than other people, but at no point should it actually be gone.


But I have a feeling everyone else buys into the whole "only be happy, and if you're not happy, do things that make you happy or take meds". So whatever.

For the record I'm with you here.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: antigoon on January 31, 2010, 12:22:57 PM
I'm usually a pretty happy guy but my health conditions have been taking a toll on my emotions lately. I've been having crazy stomach problems for over a year now, and I'm on a restricted diet which excludes wheat, potatoes, eggs, dairy, beans, and alcohol. It just really sucks having to worry about what I'm going to eat anytime I go out, and when the social lives of your friends revolves around boozing it up on the weekends and you can't, it kind of makes you feel left out.

Meh, at least I have supportive friends and an understanding girlfriend.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: lonestar on January 31, 2010, 02:34:30 PM
Listen im not going to preach because nobody is happy all the time but I think I can help as depression was something I recently "beat".

I hear a lot in this thread about girls. But the creation of this thread is exactly what is wrong. You need to realize that these girls will not make you happy.  Happiness comes from inside, not from someone else. It is a skill you will need to practice.  Start by kicking the stupid habit of punishing yourself by thinking of these girls. It isn't easy, no doubt, but take a practical approach and realize that it is not healthy to think about past girlfriends or fiances.   I know it sounds like a generalization, but the only thing that is wrong here is that you are sad.  If a girl broke your heart it sucks, but then it your fault if you let it continue to be broken.

The only, only thing you can do to shake off the depression is to see that it is a bad habit you need to get rid of.  Practice happiness, do not try to find it in someone else or some job, or experience.  Do not "hope" for someone or something to come along to fix things.  You have all the tools you need.



Good point, though I wouldn't quite classify it as a "habit".  Many sources exist for depression, both external and internal, and thinking of it as something to break may belittle the feeling that some of us have.  You are very correct in stating that looking for an external influence to heal oneself is not the answer,  one cannot completely rely on influences beyond their control for something as vital as the basic construct of their personality.  Solidifying your internal view of yourself is something much more reliable. and having a good sense of self will eventually reflect itself on your day to day life.  Once one is comfortable and happy with themselves, they will seek out a lifestyle that they feel they sre worthy of, and will satisfy their inner sense of need.



A side note to those who do suffer from depression, especially the younger of you.  Please seek out any and all methods of help that you can, you may be suprised to find out how much is actually out there, willing to help, if you only open yourself up a little.  Unfortunatly, a little vulnerability is necessary to walk this long path.  As someone who has battled this for the better part of thirty plus years, I cannot claim to have the answers, but I definatly have the experience, and am always willing to share.  DO NOT bury your depression in drug use.  I spent many years as a meth addict(sober eight years now!!!),  and rode the last couple of those years on the edge of sanity.  Burying it doesn't help, it just hides it away, leaving it to fester and sour even more.  Not saying the occasional beer is bad, but once you are altering your state of mind to not feel normal, or to feel less,  or to feel nothing, you are denying emotional processes that are crucial to healing and eventual well being.  Good luck, and my PM box is always open for discussions.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on January 31, 2010, 02:45:53 PM
I'm not afraid to talk about how I feel, I just don't trust other people.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: lonestar on January 31, 2010, 02:56:07 PM
I'm not afraid to talk about how I feel, I just don't trust other people.
Lord knows I feel you.  I always felt that is where the good sense of self comes to play.  It helps to shield you from the actions of others.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on January 31, 2010, 03:11:35 PM
I'm not afraid to talk about how I feel, I just don't trust other people.
Lord knows I feel you.  I always felt that is where the good sense of self comes to play.  It helps to shield you from the actions of others.
Yeah, that's one of the reasons I have trouble making friends.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: lonestar on January 31, 2010, 03:14:46 PM
I'm not afraid to talk about how I feel, I just don't trust other people.
Lord knows I feel you.  I always felt that is where the good sense of self comes to play.  It helps to shield you from the actions of others.
Yeah, that's one of the reasons I have trouble making friends.
It does get easier, especially about five seconds after you get out of high school(god I fucking hated high school).  The rest of the world does mature as you do, and they become more tolerant and forgiving of individual faults.  Not saying this is a blanket statement, but it is a good generalization.  A little patience goes a long way.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: aurorablind on January 31, 2010, 03:21:38 PM
I've had a couple of batches of really heavy depressions.
The first one when i was 17. I had two major panic attacks that sent me to the hospital. It ended up with me gettong on anti-depressive drugs for allmost two years, and seeing a phsychologist for some period of that time.
The second one when i was 20. I thought i'd sorted my life out, but all the negative emotions and anxiety feelings got back, and i got some minor and one major anxiety-attack that made me having to go on the drugs again.
Now im 23, and i've been of the pills for two and a half years.
Im doing pretty well now, but the feelings come back every now and then. I broke up with my fiance 9 months ago, and even though it was my choice, i ended up struggling really bad with bad concience. I lost 12 kg because of all the stress.

Even though, the periods i've had with serious depression have thought me how to deal with negative emotions much better. Instead of hiding all my thoughts and feelings i try to talk to my friends and family about them, and it really works. That's really the best way of handling depression for me. Being open to the people i trust about my feelings, and also, working out. When im alone and i start to feel like crap i usually go for a run around the neighbourhood and think about stuff just to get my mind fresh. When i get inside i usually feel alot better.

So, thats my story.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: SilentFox on January 31, 2010, 03:25:27 PM
A helpful tip to people that are depressed, that helped me:

If you are depressed in your current state of being, instead of trying to accept it, first try to change it.  Add variety to your life.  Pick up a new hobby.  Get into new music.  Learn how to play a new sport.  Distracting yourself in these ways will help to rid yourself of depressing thoughts.  If you're in school or college, join a club -- not only does it open up fun opportunities, you make friends with the people that have similar interests as you.  Plus, what better place to find a girlfriend than a place where you instantly have one thing in common!  

If you're having trouble with being accepted by the world (or even being accepted by yourself), what really helped me is coming to Christianity.  I don't mean to be a faith-pusher, but Christ rejects no one.

If anyone is in serious despair, and is willing to try to change their perspective and try new things, a book I would highly recommend is Managing Your Mind by Gillian Butler.  That book not only helped me to be happier, but also to become a much better person in general.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Hyperplex on January 31, 2010, 03:38:23 PM
There is something inherently naive about the way the majority of people in the world approach depression.

Depression as a disorder, as a sickness, is NOT situational. The sadness you feel when you get dumped or the grief you feel when someone you love dies is not depression. They are emotions that pass with time and effort. Depression is not necessarily something that can be explained or changed. If one is sad because something bad happened, that is sadness, grief, angst or whatever emotion is applicable. Depression itself is not an emotion; it is a way of thinking.

That's not to say people who suffer from depression are not influenced by outside situations. Quite the opposite, a depressed person can be thrown further into a deep depression when things go pear-shaped. However, the depression exists without the outside stimuli. Depression is a distortion of thought, a disorder of feeling, not just an emotional response.

Depression is a mood disorder, one that can be helped through therapy, life coaching, expression and, in some cases, medicine. Those who suffer with it are usually not able to simply change their way of thinking. It's the same with other mood disorders like anxiety, as well as with panic disorders; you cannot simply will them away. It takes effort, energy, motivation and a true desire to work to break through something like this.

I can't really explain it any better than that: it only really makes sense to those who have felt it. You might want to change, you might hate that you think what you're thinking, you might know that what you're thinking and feeling is the most inane, stupid thing you know.....you still think it.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on January 31, 2010, 03:44:37 PM
I'm not afraid to talk about how I feel, I just don't trust other people.
Lord knows I feel you.  I always felt that is where the good sense of self comes to play.  It helps to shield you from the actions of others.
Yeah, that's one of the reasons I have trouble making friends.
It does get easier, especially about five seconds after you get out of high school(god I fucking hated high school).  The rest of the world does mature as you do, and they become more tolerant and forgiving of individual faults.  Not saying this is a blanket statement, but it is a good generalization.  A little patience goes a long way.
I've always been more mature than most my age, no idea why, I just have, which has always frustrated me.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on January 31, 2010, 03:45:34 PM
While I'm sure there are SOME cases that are like what you said, I'd like to point out that just because people don't know what's making them sad, doesn't mean there isn't something there. One of our subconcious tendencies is block out painful things, which can easily cause people to not remember them.

It's just easier to say "ah yes, not your deal, just a disorder, take this and you're good to go".
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Hyperplex on January 31, 2010, 03:50:12 PM
I never said that at all. If someone suffers from depression, it most certainly is his or her deal. There are experiences that can trigger it. What I am saying is that sadness and depression are two different things.

If I go back and look at my life growing up, I have no "reason" to be depressed. That doesn't change the fact that I am. Medication has helped me, but so has therapy. So have my parents to an extent, and more than anything my wife has helped me.

Depression has also made me who I am, for better or worse. If I stopped taking medication, I'd still be able to deal. Maybe it would be easier, maybe it would be harder. Right now, I'm in a managable balance and doing fine. I still have my dark moments, but on a whole I am okay. It's also taken me the better part of my life to know, understand and grow through it.

EDIT: And I'm not done yet.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on January 31, 2010, 03:57:27 PM
My point was that you can't actually look at your life and realize you have no reason to be depressed. That would mean remembering everything you ever experienced ever, and of course assuming that your mind won't hide things from you and that you are fully aware of everything going on in you.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on January 31, 2010, 04:04:05 PM
Cool, arguing on a thread dedicated to depression. Real mature guys.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Hyperplex on January 31, 2010, 04:06:26 PM
Cool, arguing on a thread dedicated to depression. Real mature guys.

Who is arguing? We are presenting different views on the matter and neither one of us is hostile to the other. Speaking for myself, I am always open to what other people say and in no way meant to belittle what Adami believes and says.

Our discussion is rather mature, I think, as discussion itself is based on sharing differing views and opinions. Don't be so quick to call others out.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on January 31, 2010, 04:17:20 PM
Cool, arguing on a thread dedicated to depression. Real mature guys.

Has nothing to do with maturity, it's two people discussing opposing ways of dealing with the topic at hand.

But fair enough, I'll quit.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Marvellous G on January 31, 2010, 04:19:10 PM
Hey guys, it's Sunday evening and I'm depressed again. What are your favourite comfort films/songs? Sleepless in Seattle with a bit of John Mayer's Continuum afterwards always soothes me.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on January 31, 2010, 04:23:32 PM
Hey guys, it's Sunday evening and I'm depressed again. What are your favourite comfort films/songs? Sleepless in Seattle with a bit of John Mayer's Continuum afterwards always soothes me.

I always watch Paul Rudd comedies when I'm down,.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: 73109 on January 31, 2010, 04:24:08 PM
Role Models is in HBO On-Demand if you have it. It is awesome.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: SilentFox on January 31, 2010, 04:30:20 PM
The Office always helps me when I'm feeling depressed.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on January 31, 2010, 04:34:34 PM
The Office always helps me when I'm feeling depressed.

Which one?

Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Hyperplex on January 31, 2010, 04:59:53 PM
I like listening to Cat Stevens, dredg or Porcupine Tree. There's something about them that seems to hit a nice nerve when I'm in a low spot. I also like the levity of cartoons when I'm depressed. Looney Tunes are almost always a winner in the regard.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on January 31, 2010, 05:04:27 PM
Personally, I usually put on a Judd Apatowish comedy, or something similar. That or I'll put my ipod on shuffle, and play mario wii.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on January 31, 2010, 05:10:17 PM
Whitest Kids U'know
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: SilentFox on January 31, 2010, 05:43:24 PM
The Office always helps me when I'm feeling depressed.

Which one?


The American version is the one I watch.  I never got into the British one, but I heard it's basically a coin toss in which one you prefer.  You hate one and love the other (or you hate both). 
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on January 31, 2010, 06:03:07 PM
I like listening to Cat Stevens, dredg or Porcupine Tree. There's something about them that seems to hit a nice nerve when I'm in a low spot. I also like the levity of cartoons when I'm depressed. Looney Tunes are almost always a winner in the regard.

Wow all three of those bands have been in heavy rotation during this down period in my life.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on January 31, 2010, 06:25:34 PM
I'm in conniptions for the final act you came here for.
The one derivative you manage is the one I abhor.
I need a minute to elaborate for everyone the
Everyday bullshit things that you have done

Your impossible ego fuck is like a
Megalomaniacal tab on my tongue
You fucking touch me I will rip you apart
I'll reach in and take a bite out of that
Shit you call a heart...

I don't mind being ogled, ridiculed
Made to feel minuscule
If you consider the source, its kinda pitiful
The only thing you really know about me is...
...that's all you'll ever know

I know why you blame me (yourself)
I know why you plague me (yourself)

I'm turning it around like a knife in the shell
I wanna understand why, but Im hurting myself
I haven't seen a lot of reasons to stop it
I cant just drop it
I'm just a bastard, but at least I admit it
At least I admit it

I know why you blame me
I know why you blame yourself
I know why you plague me
I know why you plague yourself

Kill you - fuck you - I will never be you
Kill you - fuck you - I will never be you
I cant fucking take it anymore
A snap of the synapse
And now its fucking war
Kill you - fuck you - I will never be you

This is generally the song I listen to when I'm really depressed/mad.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Hyperplex on January 31, 2010, 06:32:28 PM
Reaper: great minds think alike.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on January 31, 2010, 08:08:08 PM
Reaper: great minds think alike.

Yeah, I read your post and was like wait a minute, I was going to make a similar post about the music I've been listening too. Either way things seem to be getting better day by day. I need to learn from my mistakes, it's a shame though that for the time being my actions cost of the closeness with my family and a possible fiance.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: splent on January 31, 2010, 08:15:46 PM
I'm depressed right now, not because I'm wallowing in self pity, but I'm just going through a very tough time right now.  The mods know what it's all about, and I would appreciate if they do not elaborate on what it is.  It is something I would rather keep private.

It's just very tough because it's such a private matter for both my wife and I, and we have to put on a happy face for our students at school
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on January 31, 2010, 08:19:58 PM
I'm depressed right now, not because I'm wallowing in self pity, but I'm just going through a very tough time right now.  The mods know what it's all about, and I would appreciate if they do not elaborate on what it is.  It is something I would rather keep private.

It's just very tough because it's such a private matter for both my wife and I, and we have to put on a happy face for our students at school

Private or not I wish the best for you, sometimes it's very hard and frustrating putting on a good face for other people but I'm sure your patience will pay off and there is a bright light at the end of your tunnel.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Ultimetalhead on January 31, 2010, 08:21:15 PM
I was depressed for a while. Went through a rough divorce, and had to deal with my parents hating each other. Definitely wasn't easy. They put me on medication to try to help, but it made me feel like I was really fucked up, which in turn made me more depressed, so the medication didn't help, really. After I got over the divorce, I had to push really hard to get taken off the pills. My psychiatrist didn't listen to me, and my Mom always took his side. I knew I was better, and they just weren't buying it. They didn't even want to try to help me get off of it. It took a good 3 months of increasing rebellion, and basically begging my mother to take me to someone else, just so we could try. I walked out of a psychiatrist appointment in the middle of a busy city, and almost got a ride to my girlfriend's house from a Starbucks employee. They gave me a free hot chocolate though, because I dumped out my life's story to them.  :hat

That was a pretty damn sucky time, but I'm off meds now and I've never been happier.  :D
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: AwakeFromOctavarium on February 01, 2010, 05:58:58 AM
I won't go to details of my story... Just wanna ask.

Do you think there are relationships that aren't meant to be? I mean not like one doesn't like another, but more of atmospheric conditions.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on February 01, 2010, 08:05:26 AM
I won't go to details of my story... Just wanna ask.

Do you think there are relationships that aren't meant to be? I mean not like one doesn't like another, but more of atmospheric conditions.
Yeah, there are times where if it were any other time, it should have worked out, but right then, in either of our lives, it was the worst time it could be.

On a side note, I was going to hang out with a friend today, she told me she was sick, found out she planned on ditching me for other friends, and then those friends cancelled on her. Not sure how I feel.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on February 01, 2010, 08:09:25 AM
I won't go to details of my story... Just wanna ask.

Do you think there are relationships that aren't meant to be? I mean not like one doesn't like another, but more of atmospheric conditions.

Could be. My last relationship was a victim of circumstance more than anything else and we are trying to work through it right now. We are not back together, just in limbo and it sucks.

Really depends on the situation.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: SilentFox on February 01, 2010, 10:31:02 AM
It is my belief that a truly strong and worthy relationship can exist no matter what, in spite of circumstance.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: TioJorge on February 01, 2010, 12:11:41 PM
I've been pretty down lately due to the passing of a friend...a very unexpected; no, completely unexpected in every way. A huge shock... Weird thing is, I'd only met him once; and though we talked pretty commonly over email (Youtube messaging actually), it isn't as if we were the best of friends. However, I saw his life every week through his videos, which were vlogs about his life in Japan, something which I'm in the process of organizing this very moment. But...yeah, it really sucks.. I looked forward to his videos every week; such a happy, caring, life-loving guy. Then one day I log on to see if he's updated anything and *BAM*...hundreds of comments talking about his death and "R.I.P. Swan"...it was like taking a sledgehammer to the face and the not knowing if you just dreamed it. Fucked.

Anyway...that was a few days ago. Overall I've been pretty optimistic lately, especially since I've been living in California for he past few weeks and got a certain license that lets me smoke a certain plant (Dandelion License?). So that's all good fun. I love California. Other than that...
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on February 01, 2010, 12:40:32 PM
Wow, I'm sorry to hear that :(

People can leave such a void in your life sometimes.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on February 01, 2010, 01:13:05 PM
My Plague
This is one of the Slipknot songs I really like.

I have to honestly say I don't know if I suffer from depression, but the more time goes on, the more certain I am that I suffer from something. I can't say I ever think about killing myself or anything like that, and I'm not an unemployed person who feels no joy towards life or anything like that. I just have an extremely low opinion of myself, and I often feel like I don't fit into the world at all. And I'm becoming increasingly moody over time, so every now and again (I would say once every three weeks or a month at the moment), these thoughts hit me full on and I get into serious funks that last three days to a week where I just feel like crap constantly and actually have to make an effort to not break down crying at any moment.

I've noticed that it's normally brought on by things people say, things happening (which I may or may not be imagining, but in the end, that actually makes little difference), which 'confirm' the things I mentioned above which I think about myself. They can be really small things, but if they put me off-kilter, it very easily snowballs.

I've been thinking of going and seeing someone about this for some time, and I've kind of admitted to myself that there must be something up with me, but if I do see a therapist, then I guess that means I have to start admitting it to the outside world as well, which is something that kind of scares me.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on February 01, 2010, 01:17:22 PM
My Plague
This is one of the Slipknot songs I really like.
It is up there for me, Iowa is my favorite album for sure.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on February 01, 2010, 01:26:46 PM
I feel even depressed-er today. To the point where I don't even want to listen to music. I actually even feel a little bit agitated if I hear music.


A part of it could be that I love writing music very much, and I really want to get a band together, but I don't know how to start recruiting band members. Another thing is that I have a lot of studying to do, but I'm too depressed to start, which in turn is making it worse. Right now, it doesn't seem like I'll ever get anything done. I got a text from my girlfriend which was nice, but like some of you I have trust issues and I never feel comfortable talking to her, or anyone.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on February 01, 2010, 01:27:39 PM
So I was in my car driving last night, feeling just horrible, and I put on Undertow by PoS and sang it to the point of almost crying.


A rather amazing experience.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: MetalMike06 on February 01, 2010, 01:31:19 PM
I have never been clinically diagnosed with depression or anything. I just feel like ass. I've been alone (relationship wise) for over four years now, and even at that, that was my only relationship and it was in high school. I'm really not that awful looking, but I definitely have social anxiety, I've just never sought any kind of medicine for it. I don't have a car so I am at home pretty much all day, other than going to class, and I never have any money because I don't have a job and no place seems to want to hire me. I just want to get out of here, but even when I transfer out next year I won't be going far (just into the city). So I just dunno. I just feel like I'll be stuck in the same boring rut for a long time.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Phantasmatron on February 01, 2010, 01:32:18 PM
So I was in my car driving last night, feeling just horrible, and I put on Undertow by PoS and sang it to the point of almost crying.


A rather amazing experience.

I have had this experience before, several times.  The song becomes very cathartic.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Rina on February 01, 2010, 02:08:27 PM
I'm joining this thread.  :sadpanda:
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on February 01, 2010, 02:24:26 PM
I'm joining this thread.  :sadpanda:

What's wrong?
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Rina on February 01, 2010, 02:25:57 PM
I'm joining this thread.  :sadpanda:

What's wrong?

I mentioned a few things in the chat thread, but there's a few other things that are too personal for DTF. (But it's not a big deal, I'll get over it soon)  Other people have bigger issues.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on February 01, 2010, 02:36:41 PM
I'm joining this thread.  :sadpanda:

What's wrong?

I mentioned a few things in the chat thread, but there's a few other things that are too personal for DTF. (But it's not a big deal, I'll get over it soon)  Other people have bigger issues.
Not problem is too small.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: splent on February 01, 2010, 08:36:44 PM
Just to say that the phone call I got today alleviated so much but I'm now just emotionally exhausted. 
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Neon on February 01, 2010, 10:05:03 PM
Hey, would anyone mind if I joined the pity party?

January 2010 was a pretty shitty month- I'm so glad it's over.

My dad and my stepmom almost got divorced. Thankfully they're trying to work through it.  But I couldn't even talk to my dad for about three weeks.  In fact, I didn't talk to him from the day he told me what was happening (just after New Year's) until he came to stay with me this past weekend. 

My boyfriend's dad almost died.  After 2 weeks, he's still in the hospital, but at least he's out of the ICU.  He sat up on his own and fed himself today.  That's a huge deal...unfortunately it's still going to be a very long road to recovery. 

And for a minor annoyance:  I fucked up my left pinky finger.  I still don't know how I managed it:  I went to go pick my comforter up off the floor and I felt my finger go "pop."  And now it's bent from the top knuckle...and it won't go straight again.  It doesn't hurt, but sometimes becomes sore if I type too much too often.  I don't think it's broken, because there's no real pain and there's no bruising or anything, but wtf... My mom thinks I should go to the doctor, but I think it's a little ridiculous to go see a doctor for something as stupid as a bent pinky finger.  It's ridiculous though...I went to throw the "horns" the other day and realized it just looked ridiculous what with my gimp-tastic finger and all.  Dammit. 







Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on February 01, 2010, 10:09:32 PM
I'd say get it looked at.  I hurt one of my right index finger when I was a child and now it bends down a bit at the middle knuckle and won't go straight. I'm really self conscious about people noticing it, so I don't even point with that finger or "throw up the horns." I kind of just do the *raise fist* thing.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Lynxo on February 02, 2010, 08:09:21 AM
I've never had a diagnose or anything, but like many people in this thread has written, I highly suspect that I have some form of psychological disease. My mood can swing like crazy sometimes, and I've had periods where I really, really hate myself, hate who I am and everything that is me. And I know how patethic that sounds, but that's the reality. And, as have already been pointed out as well, it defies all logic.

Right now, I'm in a really, really serious relationsship. We're talking a girl that I want to marry someday, and she feels the same way about me. We're gonna move togheter as soon as she's ready. (Get a full time job, among other things.) Howerver, what I am really, really, REALLY scared about is her leaving me. I can't really put the feelings or any logic behind the feelings into coherent words, my head is a mess right now.
But my mood swings have scared away more than one person. Just about one year ago, I had a REALLY, really close female friend, the best friend I ever had. She broke of all contact between us because of the way I am. And I'm fucking scared that it's gonna happen again. This girl is EVEN MORE important to me.

I don't know, just had to vent that out, I guess...
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: KevShmev on February 02, 2010, 01:41:25 PM
Remember, folks, when feeling depressed or even a bit down, DO NOT DRINK ALCOHOL.  It always seems like everyone drowns their sorrows in booze, and that only makes things worse. 

And some hesitate to do this, but talking to a professional is never a bad thing.  I am not talking a full-blown shrink; even just going to a counselor or something can help.  If you are in school, colleges often have one on campus you can talk to.  And even if it is not covered by insurance, it can be worth plunking down a bit of cash to talk to someone who isn't so close to you.  It is always great to have family and close friends to talk to, but they often say what you want to hear and make you feel better for a very short time, as opposed to a professional who can give you pertinent and helpful tips and advice which will be long-lasting.  I have done it twice in the past when going through a down period, and it helped me a lot both times.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaPsTA on February 02, 2010, 01:51:49 PM
Remember, folks, when feeling depressed or even a bit down, DO NOT DRINK ALCOHOL.  It always seems like everyone drowns their sorrows in booze, and that only makes things worse.

All too true.

 - Alcohol makes you extremely high functioning in your current mood disorders. Basically a manic state. Coming out of this manic state is depressing because (a) you want it back and (b) you don't feel like you can get it without the drink.

 - Not to mention that manic states aren't really what you want either. There's a lot of good to be said about being even headed emotionally, and alcohol doesn't help that.

 - But that aside, you don't want the mental association to develop between booze and happiness. Since most of you probably aren't alcoholics, this is more dangerous to you than the physical addiction.

 - Finally, there's an aspect of drinking that I don't think people give enough attention. Thinks that annoy you aren't annoying when you're drunk. You feel good enough that you're willing to put up with it.

I'm by no stretch of the imagination promoting teetotalling. It's just weird. But being depressed is a good reason to stay far away from the bottle.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: blackngold29 on February 03, 2010, 02:40:40 PM
So I tell that girl I was talking about earlier in the thread on Monday "I wanna tell you something, come talk if you can." I left out the "I want to ask you out Friday night" part.

"Alright I'll try." So Monday nothing. Tuesday nothing.

This morning I see her again, in class. She sits in front of me. So her friend beside her introduces her to this guy beside her. Not sure who he is. They smile at one another. Great, I think. He walks up to her after class, "So what are you doing now?" It was like a freaking dream.  "Sorry, gotta go to class," she says. OK, maybe she didn't like him. She walks down the hall to her friend (as I try to keep up with her) "So, I just met someone," she says and smiles. I want to slit my wrists at this point.

Finally I catch up to her, "Are you gonna be busy at 3? Stop by and see me." "I'm doing something with my friend here, but I'll try." Alright, finally. Go to class, distracted by thinking about what I'm gonna say to her. Completely frak over a quiz in Physics.

Sitting, waiting for her, nothing. I text her: "Stop by, I wanna talk to you." She's got class in the one room at 3:30, I had to go to that building anyway, so I hang around. Nothing. She sends me a text: "My boyfriend came home from college, I'm not on campus. Sorry. E-mail me."

Well, HOLY FUCK! Lost has nothing on my life. Talk about disbelief. Now she's gotten a boyfriend in the two weeks that she's avoided me enough that I didn't have a chance to ask her out. Asked her about lunch tomorrow, I still want to talk to her, but I guess the Friday night movie just got cancelled. :'( I know I should just say, screw it, and move on, but just wow.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: icysk8r on February 03, 2010, 03:30:41 PM
Hello.  I think I will be here quite often.  I'm here o talk to if anyone wants to vent on me in PM.  :)
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on February 03, 2010, 05:24:10 PM
So I found out my 26 year old ex fiance is now starting to date a 40 year old Phd who develops drugs to help lung transplants, drives a porsche and is the head of his department at wash u. Here I am 25 and unemployed.

damn.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Hyperplex on February 03, 2010, 05:33:33 PM
It took me a long time to realize this but: don't attempt to compare yourself and where you are in life with someone who has a 15-year headstart on you. There is no feasible way you could expect to have that kind of rank at 25. Not saying you shouldn't feel as you do, just saying that perspective is essential in pulling yourself out of such a rut.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on February 03, 2010, 05:35:15 PM
It took me a long time to realize this but: don't attempt to compare yourself and where you are in life with someone who has a 15-year headstart on you. There is no feasible way you could expect to have that kind of rank at 25. Not saying you shouldn't feel as you do, just saying that perspective is essential in pulling yourself out of such a rut.

I don't. It's just being replaced by that.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Hyperplex on February 03, 2010, 05:38:36 PM
That I understand, and I understand it well.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on February 03, 2010, 05:45:15 PM
That I understand, and I understand it well.

Also, in 15 years, I might be a Phd, but working on drugs for lung transplants? driving a porsche? Being a mix of japanese and german?

He also seems to like all the same stuff she does.

Damnit I hate life.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on February 03, 2010, 07:45:53 PM
So I found out my 26 year old ex fiance is now starting to date a 40 year old Phd who develops drugs to help lung transplants, drives a porsche and is the head of his department at wash u. Here I am 25 and unemployed.

damn.

Don't focus on it. I had the same thing when things ended with my last girlfriend she started dating someone who is completely the opposite of me, one would say for the worse. He is older but is still working on his degree, lives at home, out of shape and all of this.

Really it doesn't matter if he is less or more appealing. Don't compare yourself to him, he is 40 and in a different league and since this relationship just recently ended she is probably looking for some comfort in him.

Funny I read your post. In January things were going great between my ex and I, we really cleared a lot of feelings in the open and I thought we were moving forward. Well she just disappeared on me and it's getting me down but I see the type of person she is, I think that is what is bothering me the most. I never thought she would be capable of things she did (too long to get into here) huh, I had an engagement ring for this girl. :/
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: icysk8r on February 04, 2010, 07:01:37 PM
How do you overcome struggling with something you know is true.  Something that you know you have to do, but is basically a suicide mission?  here is kind of a metaphor:
If you were going to war, starting alone, and you had to find people to fight in your army, except you are in a small 3rd world country with no weapons, fighting against the US.  But you know that you have to fight this battle, but are struggling with coming to these terms.  How do you overcome this?
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: antigoon on February 04, 2010, 07:03:53 PM
Nut up and do it?
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: icysk8r on February 04, 2010, 07:10:12 PM
Nut up and do it?
And the whole being killed in war part is very literal.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: robwebster on February 04, 2010, 07:11:00 PM
You're not thinking of moving to a third world country and going to war against the US are you?
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: icysk8r on February 04, 2010, 07:12:01 PM
You're not thinking of moving to a third world country and going to war against the US are you?
Lol. No.  Not THAT literal.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on February 04, 2010, 07:33:26 PM
So, took a pretty legit test on a site my psychology teacher uses a lot, and it said I'm clinically depressed. Always kinda assumed so, but eh. I answered the questions as truthful as I possibly could, and it came out with the result I kinda dreaded. The only questions I have are, should I talk to my parents about it? And, should I seek real medical help?
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: splent on February 04, 2010, 07:37:56 PM
Remember, folks, when feeling depressed or even a bit down, DO NOT DRINK ALCOHOL.  It always seems like everyone drowns their sorrows in booze, and that only makes things worse. 


true true true.  when i was living with my parents after graduating from college (some of you remember this) I got into a very destructive pattern.  And still even when my mom is being a narcisistic bitch, I still get the urge to drink.

Lol just thinking about that makes me want to have a captain and coke.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dr. DTVT on February 04, 2010, 07:41:19 PM
How do you overcome struggling with something you know is true.  Something that you know you have to do, but is basically a suicide mission?  here is kind of a metaphor:
If you were going to war, starting alone, and you had to find people to fight in your army, except you are in a small 3rd world country with no weapons, fighting against the US.  But you know that you have to fight this battle, but are struggling with coming to these terms.  How do you overcome this?

Well, knowing what I know about you, unless you are talking about something different you haven't told us, I don't think anyone is going to kill you.  I'm not in your situation, but I think things will get a lot better for you in college (assuming you go).  It might even be worth trying to contact a group at a university and someone may be willing to give you the advice you can't get from traditional sources.  Of course, if I'm making wrong assumptions, just tell us what's eating you so we don't have to guess.  Your being vague makes me think you want us to be vague as well.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: icysk8r on February 04, 2010, 07:42:47 PM
How do you overcome struggling with something you know is true.  Something that you know you have to do, but is basically a suicide mission?  here is kind of a metaphor:
If you were going to war, starting alone, and you had to find people to fight in your army, except you are in a small 3rd world country with no weapons, fighting against the US.  But you know that you have to fight this battle, but are struggling with coming to these terms.  How do you overcome this?

Well, knowing what I know about you, unless you are talking about something different you haven't told us, I don't think anyone is going to kill you.  I'm not in your situation, but I think things will get a lot better for you in college (assuming you go).  It might even be worth trying to contact a group at a university and someone may be willing to give you the advice you can't get from traditional sources.  Of course, if I'm making wrong assumptions, just tell us what's eating you so we don't have to guess.  Your being vague makes me think you want us to be vague as well.
No no non o, it isn't the gay thing.  Gays are accepted, basically.  No, it isn't that.  If I told you what it was on here, I fear a lot of people here would hate me and also anybody could be reading these forums so I would rather not say.  In PM's, sure.  But not public.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on February 04, 2010, 07:57:37 PM
Starting a gay army is no way to solve your problems.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: icysk8r on February 04, 2010, 07:58:04 PM
Starting a gay army is no way to solve your problems.
It isn't gays...
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on February 04, 2010, 08:00:48 PM
So, took a pretty legit test on a site my psychology teacher uses a lot, and it said I'm clinically depressed. Always kinda assumed so, but eh. I answered the questions as truthful as I possibly could, and it came out with the result I kinda dreaded. The only questions I have are, should I talk to my parents about it? And, should I seek real medical help?
Well, DMoS, in my opinion you should probably talk to your parents, but seeking medical attention is optional. Oh, also, you should stop talking to yourself, you crazy bastard you.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: icysk8r on February 04, 2010, 08:02:49 PM
So, took a pretty legit test on a site my psychology teacher uses a lot, and it said I'm clinically depressed. Always kinda assumed so, but eh. I answered the questions as truthful as I possibly could, and it came out with the result I kinda dreaded. The only questions I have are, should I talk to my parents about it? And, should I seek real medical help?
I would say you should maybe think about going to a therapist.  They are the only ones who can really tell.  A test can't tell you for sure.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on February 04, 2010, 08:04:54 PM
So, took a pretty legit test on a site my psychology teacher uses a lot, and it said I'm clinically depressed. Always kinda assumed so, but eh. I answered the questions as truthful as I possibly could, and it came out with the result I kinda dreaded. The only questions I have are, should I talk to my parents about it? And, should I seek real medical help?
I would say you should maybe think about going to a therapist.  They are the only ones who can really tell.  A test can't tell you for sure.
Well, I trust my self diagnosis of agreeing with the test. For two reasons:

1. I understand myself better than anyone else can
2. I have an A in psychology.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: icysk8r on February 04, 2010, 08:07:20 PM
So, took a pretty legit test on a site my psychology teacher uses a lot, and it said I'm clinically depressed. Always kinda assumed so, but eh. I answered the questions as truthful as I possibly could, and it came out with the result I kinda dreaded. The only questions I have are, should I talk to my parents about it? And, should I seek real medical help?
I would say you should maybe think about going to a therapist.  They are the only ones who can really tell.  A test can't tell you for sure.
Well, I trust my self diagnosis of agreeing with the test. For two reasons:

1. I understand myself better than anyone else can
2. I have an A in psychology.

Still, a surgeon can't do a heart transplant on himself.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on February 04, 2010, 08:09:52 PM
That's so comparing apples to oranges.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on February 04, 2010, 08:16:10 PM
That's so comparing apples to oranges.

Getting an A in high school or college psych is pretty meaningless.

Online tests can't diagnose anyone.

You can't diagnose yourself.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: 73109 on February 04, 2010, 08:56:37 PM
It said I might have mild depression. :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Neon on February 04, 2010, 09:22:04 PM
So I tell that girl I was talking about earlier in the thread on Monday "I wanna tell you something, come talk if you can." I left out the "I want to ask you out Friday night" part.

"Alright I'll try." So Monday nothing. Tuesday nothing.

This morning I see her again, in class. She sits in front of me. So her friend beside her introduces her to this guy beside her. Not sure who he is. They smile at one another. Great, I think. He walks up to her after class, "So what are you doing now?" It was like a freaking dream.  "Sorry, gotta go to class," she says. OK, maybe she didn't like him. She walks down the hall to her friend (as I try to keep up with her) "So, I just met someone," she says and smiles. I want to slit my wrists at this point.

Finally I catch up to her, "Are you gonna be busy at 3? Stop by and see me." "I'm doing something with my friend here, but I'll try." Alright, finally. Go to class, distracted by thinking about what I'm gonna say to her. Completely frak over a quiz in Physics.

Sitting, waiting for her, nothing. I text her: "Stop by, I wanna talk to you." She's got class in the one room at 3:30, I had to go to that building anyway, so I hang around. Nothing. She sends me a text: "My boyfriend came home from college, I'm not on campus. Sorry. E-mail me."

Well, HOLY FUCK! Lost has nothing on my life. Talk about disbelief. Now she's gotten a boyfriend in the two weeks that she's avoided me enough that I didn't have a chance to ask her out. Asked her about lunch tomorrow, I still want to talk to her, but I guess the Friday night movie just got cancelled. :'( I know I should just say, screw it, and move on, but just wow.


OK...
The fact that you told her you wanted to see her/ask her something and she didn't make the effort for you tells me that she had a pretty good idea of what was on your mind and went out of her way to avoid you.  Because if she was into you, I guarantee she would have made the time for you...especially if she thought you were going to ask her out (which, trust me...she did).

And don't hate on the new boyfriend...she wasn't into you anyway...or else she wouldn't have gone out of her way to get involved with someone else (and make sure to tell you about it) unless she was trying to dissuade you from asking her out. 

At least rest easy knowing this:  If you had asked her flat out when you'd originally wanted to, she would have said no.  At least this way you can still look her in the face and pretend everything's cool and you don't have to worry about awkwardness in class for the rest of the semester.

Sorry to be blunt, but I've been the girl in this situation before.  It kind of sucks knowing one of your friends is about to "cross the line" and make everything awkward...and I can pretty much assure you that she wasn't doing it to be a bitch...in fact, it's probably her way of gently telling you not to ruin your friendship.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Marvellous G on February 05, 2010, 11:48:02 AM
So, took a pretty legit test on a site my psychology teacher uses a lot, and it said I'm clinically depressed. Always kinda assumed so, but eh. I answered the questions as truthful as I possibly could, and it came out with the result I kinda dreaded. The only questions I have are, should I talk to my parents about it? And, should I seek real medical help?

I would talk to your parents about it, or maybe your close friends, and see if they agree. If so, maybe medical help is an idea if you feel you need it. Was this site definitely reliable?
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on February 05, 2010, 12:02:41 PM
So, took a pretty legit test on a site my psychology teacher uses a lot, and it said I'm clinically depressed. Always kinda assumed so, but eh. I answered the questions as truthful as I possibly could, and it came out with the result I kinda dreaded. The only questions I have are, should I talk to my parents about it? And, should I seek real medical help?

I would talk to your parents about it, or maybe your close friends, and see if they agree. If so, maybe medical help is an idea if you feel you need it. Was this site definitely reliable?
Yeah, site was by PhD's.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on February 05, 2010, 12:36:02 PM
Websites can't diagnose. People need to do it. You need face to face convo, everyone is different, and needs to be assessed differently.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: blackngold29 on February 05, 2010, 05:06:54 PM
So I tell that girl I was talking about earlier in the thread on Monday "I wanna tell you something, come talk if you can." I left out the "I want to ask you out Friday night" part.

"Alright I'll try." So Monday nothing. Tuesday nothing.

This morning I see her again, in class. She sits in front of me. So her friend beside her introduces her to this guy beside her. Not sure who he is. They smile at one another. Great, I think. He walks up to her after class, "So what are you doing now?" It was like a freaking dream.  "Sorry, gotta go to class," she says. OK, maybe she didn't like him. She walks down the hall to her friend (as I try to keep up with her) "So, I just met someone," she says and smiles. I want to slit my wrists at this point.

Finally I catch up to her, "Are you gonna be busy at 3? Stop by and see me." "I'm doing something with my friend here, but I'll try." Alright, finally. Go to class, distracted by thinking about what I'm gonna say to her. Completely frak over a quiz in Physics.

Sitting, waiting for her, nothing. I text her: "Stop by, I wanna talk to you." She's got class in the one room at 3:30, I had to go to that building anyway, so I hang around. Nothing. She sends me a text: "My boyfriend came home from college, I'm not on campus. Sorry. E-mail me."

Well, HOLY FUCK! Lost has nothing on my life. Talk about disbelief. Now she's gotten a boyfriend in the two weeks that she's avoided me enough that I didn't have a chance to ask her out. Asked her about lunch tomorrow, I still want to talk to her, but I guess the Friday night movie just got cancelled. :'( I know I should just say, screw it, and move on, but just wow.


OK...
The fact that you told her you wanted to see her/ask her something and she didn't make the effort for you tells me that she had a pretty good idea of what was on your mind and went out of her way to avoid you.  Because if she was into you, I guarantee she would have made the time for you...especially if she thought you were going to ask her out (which, trust me...she did).

And don't hate on the new boyfriend...she wasn't into you anyway...or else she wouldn't have gone out of her way to get involved with someone else (and make sure to tell you about it) unless she was trying to dissuade you from asking her out. 

At least rest easy knowing this:  If you had asked her flat out when you'd originally wanted to, she would have said no.  At least this way you can still look her in the face and pretend everything's cool and you don't have to worry about awkwardness in class for the rest of the semester.

Sorry to be blunt, but I've been the girl in this situation before.  It kind of sucks knowing one of your friends is about to "cross the line" and make everything awkward...and I can pretty much assure you that she wasn't doing it to be a bitch...in fact, it's probably her way of gently telling you not to ruin your friendship.

I'm not fully convinced she was never into me. I wouldn't have asked at all if I thought she wasn't. I wanted to tell her everything than give her a hug and then it's all up to her. She had a legit reason why she didn't have time to talk today, but she'll barely even look at me. She asked me to e-mail her, so that's what I'm gonna do. One last chance, holding nothing back. It's gonna be weird, but I'm going to tell her everything. I have no clue how she's gonna react, but I will honestly be surprised if it's positively. Really all I want to know is why? One month ago she was possibly the nicest person that I knew, now....
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: blackngold29 on February 05, 2010, 10:20:25 PM
She just wants to be friends. Massive sigh of relief. Less depressed. Still emotionally whacked out.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Chewbacca on February 08, 2010, 05:54:58 PM
So i've been feeling some feelings of what i assumed were depression/anxiety for about 2 years. My older brother also deals with these problems and has been diagnosed for them and now takes medication for them. And recently i got fed up with feeling really down every once in awhile so i told my parents, and then i went to the doctor. After talking to the doctor he prescribed me with a medication to start off with, but it most likely won't have any effect for 4-6 weeks. But now i feel better about myself, knowing that something is actually wrong with me makes me feel feel comforted almost, because now i know i just wasn't something i made up to feel sorry for myself. Anyone who is keeping this sort of thing inside of them would do well to consider passing the torch to another person(s), because only then will you get the help you need to help you bettter about yourself, your life and everything in it.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on February 08, 2010, 06:22:58 PM
So i've been feeling some feelings of what i assumed were depression/anxiety for about 2 years. My older brother also deals with these problems and has been diagnosed for them and now takes medication for them. And recently i got fed up with feeling really down every once in awhile so i told my parents, and then i went to the doctor. After talking to the doctor he prescribed me with a medication to start off with, but it most likely won't have any effect for 4-6 weeks. But now i feel better about myself, knowing that something is actually wrong with me makes me feel feel comforted almost, because now i know i just wasn't something i made up to feel sorry for myself. Anyone who is keeping this sort of thing inside of them would do well to consider passing the torch to another person(s), because only then will you get the help you need to help you bettter about yourself, your life and everything in it.

I'm glad to hear you feel better, and I hope it only gets better :tup
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on February 08, 2010, 06:27:04 PM
rawwrrrrr


You got perscribed meds for feeling down "once in a while"?
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Chewbacca on February 08, 2010, 09:25:07 PM
It's not just the depression. I have to get some more tests yet and some psychoanalysis or something like that, but i may have social anxiety. I just started a new job, as something to keep me going for a couple months until i am able to work at a golf course where i normally work, and after a couple days of being there i just hated it, and dreaded waking up to have to go to this place. Same thing goes with a social event, such as a party or whatever. For example i was at a new years party and i got so worked up and it felt like nervousness, and it got so bad i just crashed and had to get out of there. Stuff like that, is what im hoping the meds are going to help fix
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on February 08, 2010, 09:40:42 PM
Well, I can't say I think meds are ideal in your situation, but if that's what you think will help, more power to you.


Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Chewbacca on February 09, 2010, 12:31:20 PM
Actually, I am in both corners right now. It seemed like the doctor didn't really go deep into questioning. I told him what and how i feel, and he kind of just jumped immediately to these meds. Now, if they work, then the man is a genius. But i was expecting maybe a little more research into my behavioral patterns and what not, so i can be sure that what he'"diagnosed" be with is correct. The other specialist i am supposed to start seeing will probably uncover more stuff for this, and get the "undercover story" so maybe i can find the right solution to the problem. Maybe the meds are a long term solution, maybe they are a short term one. Really, the only way to find out is by experimentation, so it can't really hurt the situation.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on February 09, 2010, 02:02:10 PM
Actually, I am in both corners right now. It seemed like the doctor didn't really go deep into questioning. I told him what and how i feel, and he kind of just jumped immediately to these meds. Now, if they work, then the man is a genius. But i was expecting maybe a little more research into my behavioral patterns and what not, so i can be sure that what he'"diagnosed" be with is correct. The other specialist i am supposed to start seeing will probably uncover more stuff for this, and get the "undercover story" so maybe i can find the right solution to the problem. Maybe the meds are a long term solution, maybe they are a short term one. Really, the only way to find out is by experimentation, so it can't really hurt the situation.

To be fair, if you get stabbed with a rusty knife, morphine is going to make sure you feel no pain. However you're still going to die from an untreated infection.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on February 09, 2010, 06:07:03 PM
So basically the past month with my ex was great, we were really making progress and just recently as of this past Saturday she tells me she doesn't want to get any more serious and wants to just hang out. I wouldn't mind moving slow but she just wants me to take her out and treat her as a girlfriend while she wants to continue dating this other guy, basically I though things were over between her and him, but I guess not. It's a lot more complex but this is the short story. Just needed to vent. I gave it a second chance and for a few weeks it was great but something happened on her end, time to cut contact again and this time for good.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on February 09, 2010, 06:18:41 PM
So basically the past month with my ex was great, we were really making progress and just recently as of this past Saturday she tells me she doesn't want to get any more serious and wants to just hang out. I wouldn't mind moving slow but she just wants me to take her out and treat her as a girlfriend while she wants to continue dating this other guy, basically I though things were over between her and him, but I guess not. It's a lot more complex but this is the short story. Just needed to vent. I gave it a second chance and for a few weeks it was great but something happened on her end, time to cut contact again and this time for good.

See, maybe it makes me less of a guy, but I never felt the urge to "fight" for a girl like that, or to go out of my way to convince her to be with me. If she doesn't want to, I just move on. Your ex clearly knows that as long as she is nice to you, she can get anything she wants from you and see whoever else she wants as well. This makes you the equivalent of tool. I'd say tell her to piss off, or start demanding stuff from her. Make it a 50/50 deal or no deal at all.

And rape her.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on February 09, 2010, 06:45:16 PM
Yeah pretty much, I mean I told her to piss off a month after the breakup, it was hard, I had (still have) the engagement ring, she broke up with me in the process of me planning the proposal. She came back 4 months later asking to talk again and catch up. I should've known better but we caught up, she didn't mention the guy she dated even when I asked her, and I was newly single, I had a rebound relationship. So we hung out and it was great, we discussed what ended our relationship and she was very apologetic about everything, I also admitted my mistakes. I come to find out that she started dating the rebound guy again, and well this time I'm not going to hang around. It sucks, I thought we really had a great connection again.

Oh well, you live and learn I guess, time for some drinks tonight.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Tuneman on February 10, 2010, 05:07:52 PM
Anyone who is keeping this sort of thing inside of them would do well to consider passing the torch to another person(s), because only then will you get the help you need to help you bettter about yourself, your life and everything in it.

For me it was the complete opposite.

I was depressed and feeling very sorry for myself.  I had lost my job, my girlfriend had broken up with me, and I was going to have to move home.  It was very easy for me to be depressed.  However, I got better extremely quickly by simply realizing that it was an addiction.  A stupid habit.  Depression was just like smoking for me.  Something I was doing that was bad for my health, and I needed to kick it.  

Feeling better about myself and my life only came from within.  It did not come from any medication, speaking to a doctor, a girlfriend, a job, or anything like that.  Once I realized that happiness is almost like a skill, something you practice, then everything got better.  You interact better and you go after what you want.

Really what was needed was a jump start.  Now I feel much better.

Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: austin on February 12, 2010, 12:27:04 PM
Soooo me and my girlfriend broke up (this was a few weeks ago), it was a mutual thing since it just kinda wasn't working out, but apparently my best friend thought it was a good idea to ask her out a few days later! Now they're dating. Awesome amiright? :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on February 12, 2010, 12:29:22 PM
Soooo me and my girlfriend broke up (this was a few weeks ago), it was a mutual thing since it just kinda wasn't working out, but apparently my best friend thought it was a good idea to ask her out a few days later! Now they're dating. Awesome amiright? :neverusethis:

Isn't this against some kind of "guy" code? I mean, it happened to me, and seems to happen a lot. Shouldn't this be punishable by a good beating or something?
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ZBomber on February 12, 2010, 12:39:52 PM
Soooo me and my girlfriend broke up (this was a few weeks ago), it was a mutual thing since it just kinda wasn't working out, but apparently my best friend thought it was a good idea to ask her out a few days later! Now they're dating. Awesome amiright? :neverusethis:

Isn't this against some kind of "guy" code? I mean, it happened to me, and seems to happen a lot. Shouldn't this be punishable by a good beating or something?

I think it depends how long the relationship lasted/how it ended.

I tried a new psychiatrist yesterday, that was fun (not). I think I'm done with that, its not helping me at all. And the lady clearly has no idea what shes doing.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on February 12, 2010, 12:41:56 PM
Psychiatrists by and large have no real interest in you. They're MDs, they care about what's possibly going on inside of you, rarley about you yourself.

And yes, I say that after having seen a psychiatrist for 8 years that cared deeply about what I went through.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: KevShmev on February 12, 2010, 12:56:31 PM
Soooo me and my girlfriend broke up (this was a few weeks ago), it was a mutual thing since it just kinda wasn't working out, but apparently my best friend thought it was a good idea to ask her out a few days later! Now they're dating. Awesome amiright? :neverusethis:

If that is your best friend, you need a new one.  A friend does not do that, much less a supposed best friend. 
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: austin on February 12, 2010, 01:12:28 PM
Soooo me and my girlfriend broke up (this was a few weeks ago), it was a mutual thing since it just kinda wasn't working out, but apparently my best friend thought it was a good idea to ask her out a few days later! Now they're dating. Awesome amiright? :neverusethis:

If that is your best friend, you need a new one.  A friend does not do that, much less a supposed best friend. 

Agreed. I had to pretend like I was alright with it and everything. I almost lost my shit on him when he told me
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on February 12, 2010, 01:13:21 PM
The obvious thing to do is to have sex with his mother and or younger sister. I don't care how ugly they are.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: austin on February 12, 2010, 01:15:57 PM
no younger sister. 2 older sisters I think they're both married so I think that would end up worse for me than him. his dad died a while ago so having sex with his mother would be super effective except that she's upwards of 65.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on February 12, 2010, 01:16:27 PM
Just do it dude. Rape his mother.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: KevShmev on February 12, 2010, 01:17:05 PM
Soooo me and my girlfriend broke up (this was a few weeks ago), it was a mutual thing since it just kinda wasn't working out, but apparently my best friend thought it was a good idea to ask her out a few days later! Now they're dating. Awesome amiright? :neverusethis:

If that is your best friend, you need a new one.  A friend does not do that, much less a supposed best friend.  

Agreed. I had to pretend like I was alright with it and everything. I almost lost my shit on him when he told me

You could just be a jackass and randomly ask him intimate questions about her.

"Did she finally get rid of that gagging problem, or was is just the size of me that caused that?"

"Did she take care of that foul "smell" yet?

Ya know, stuff like that.  Given your ages, that sounds about right.  :biggrin: :biggrin: :lol :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: austin on February 12, 2010, 01:21:17 PM
ahahaha good call  :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Tuneman on February 12, 2010, 02:34:17 PM
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Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Tuneman on February 12, 2010, 02:37:28 PM
Soooo me and my girlfriend broke up (this was a few weeks ago), it was a mutual thing since it just kinda wasn't working out, but apparently my best friend thought it was a good idea to ask her out a few days later! Now they're dating. Awesome amiright? :neverusethis:

If that is your best friend, you need a new one.  A friend does not do that, much less a supposed best friend.  

Agreed. I had to pretend like I was alright with it and everything. I almost lost my shit on him when he told me

You could just be a jackass and randomly ask him intimate questions about her.

"Did she finally get rid of that gagging problem, or was is just the size of me that caused that?"

"Did she take care of that foul "smell" yet?

Ya know, stuff like that.  Given your ages, that sounds about right.  :biggrin: :biggrin: :lol :lol

Tell him: "next time you are kissing her, think about how you used to blow loads in her mouth"
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Marvellous G on February 17, 2010, 11:04:04 AM
I'm not so much depressed at the minute, but really really crushingly bored. Just finished my mocks which were incredibly tiring and stressful, and then had to endure two weeks of school before having a break, but now I have one I'm literally not doing anything with it, I'm just lazing around all day, and I've already wasted half of it. I'm also not even catching up on sleep because I seem to have instantly developed insomnia, so I'm basically a tired bored wreck all day. Literally all I've done constructive this half term is go for a run or two, and replay all the Metal Gear games. Fun.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Shadow2222 on February 17, 2010, 11:57:05 AM
I'm really fucking depressed. I'm sick of life. I am gay, and someone thought it would be funny to tell the straight guy that I liked , well... that I liked him. I don't ever want to impose on anyone.

Of course, not only is it bad that this kid is a 15 year old freshmen (and I am 18), but he is now apparently telling everybody because he is freaked out. Yeah its imature, but I can't say I wouldn't do the same thing in his place. But this isn't just about that, but it did trigger me to think about everything else.

Most people don't care that I am gay, but I am sick of being "different" and "outcast." There are barely any gay guys in my local area that aren't the "Hey bitches!" super feminine gay guys. I am minimally feminine. I don't know why the hell I'm gay. I don't know if I'm suppressing the thought that I might have chosen it, or if I was born this way, or what.

Not only this, but these problems aren't that great when I compare them to some of your problems, and other people in the world. But I must have some mental issue (or I'm just too much of a bitch to admit it) that makes me think every little problem is a gigantic deal. I tell myself that other people have it much worse, and I only get more depressed.

Then I come on an internet message board to complain about my problems. I'm fucking crazy, and stupid, and don't know why I exist.

I've tried psychologists and therapists and guidance counselors, and going to them and talking about my problems doesn't help at all.

I don't know what I'm going to do, but this may be the last message I ever post here. I know no one will truly miss me, because its a damn message board for God's sake. I don't blame you. You are all good people though. Thanks for the ride. Goodbye DTF
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on February 17, 2010, 11:58:40 AM
Why the hell are straight guys so freaked out by being hit on gays? Are we freaked out by being hit on women we're not attracted to? Jesus.



Also, dude, I know you're going through a rough time, but please dont do the whole "(imply suicide here) goodbye DTF" posts. Just talk to us and let us talk to you.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Shadow2222 on February 17, 2010, 12:04:47 PM
Yeah I get it, obviously I'm implying suicide. But I probably won't of course, cause I'm "just doing it for attention." I will accept any help anyone here can give me, but I just don't think it will work. This time, I'm trying to get the courage to do it, cause I'm sick of this. Not of being gay, or the problems it causes, but of my whole life and what I've done with it.

I was raped when I was 11 by a (at the time) 19 year old. I never told anyone, and its been too long to press charges. I don't want to even see his face anyways. Maybe that's why I'm gay? Am I gonna become part of the statistics that say children who are raped often become child rapers themselves? Am I a pedophile? Do I like this 15 year old just because he is 15? Will this go away, or will I like 15 year olds even when I get older. I don't like how tall or big 18 year olds/seniors are. Am I well on my way?

I'm also sick of being constantly depressed for no reason. Why am I depressed? There is usually no reason. That's just how I live my life. And the funny thing is, of course, in two or three days, I'll come back and be really embarrassed I posted in this thread and say "Sorry guys  :lol". Then two days later, I'll be ready to die again. Its an endless cycle, and the lows definitely outweigh the highs. I don't know what to do anymore.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on February 17, 2010, 12:24:03 PM
Wow.

Ok, in my opinion there's always a reason you're depressed, even if you don't know it. You even listed plenty of good reasons.

Secondly, liking a 15 year old doesn't make you a pedophile at any age. Plus you're 18, it's fine. Are you gay because you were raped? who knows, but you're gay, and accepting that and coming to terms with it is the most important thing. Is it your fault that it's hard to be a gay man? No, it's the fact that the world has some kind of grudge against you out of their own insecurity and you are left to deal with their pain. It's sad and horrible, but it's just how life goes at times. Depending on where you live, there is probably a LGBT center not too far from you, I would contact them if you could. Find people who you can relate to, talk to them. If you're 18, it seems highschool is just about over for you, good thing. I assure you, college will be MUCH easier than highschool was. You pretty much have to tough it out for a short time and things will get better.

Like I said, if you didn't want to read all of that, find an LGBT center or something similar near you and call them. And remember that college is much less anti-gay (by and large) than highschool.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on February 19, 2010, 10:43:55 PM
My entire world got fucking gutted tonight. I don't know how to think, feel, or be. God, I...I can't think straight. I'm so fucking confused. Life makes absolutely no sense right now, and, things just got...fucking weird. Very rarely do I not know how to put something in to words, but today, I have met that thing. All I want to do is fucking cry, but I can't even cry. God, this is the worst feeling I've ever had...period. I wish I knew, goddamnit, I wish I fucking knew. I'm, numb. The only thing I know, is that I don't know fucking anything.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on February 19, 2010, 10:48:07 PM
What happened?
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on February 19, 2010, 10:53:23 PM
don't want too many people to see this.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on February 19, 2010, 10:57:47 PM
Let it out, kiddo.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: lonestar on February 19, 2010, 11:03:16 PM
Hey man, hang in there.  You are experiencing very conflicting feelings right now.  On one hand, you are feeling protective of a family member you love, a very natural feeling.  On the other hand, the guilt and shame you have kept bottled up inside you over the past has just been released in an instant(I have a very similar childhood background, and I know very well the shame it builds on you).  These two emotions are very conflicting, and being as young as you are, it is probably very difficult two deal with both at the same time.  My primary advice is to be there for your cousin during her healing process.  She will need your support in ways you can't imagine in the coming months.  The guilt and shame you hold over your past isn't going anywhere, I know this well, for I still feel mine, 25 years after the fact.  You have a lifetime to deal with it, and it does get better over time, trust me.  Right now, channel your anger and frustration into helping your cousin, that in itself will hold it's own healing benefits for you.  I will be signing off in a while, and won't be back till tomorrow afternoon, but feel free, please, to PM me with any questions or concerns you have.  Once again, hang in there bud.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Phantasmatron on February 20, 2010, 12:37:59 AM
I'm sorry, DMoS, I don't have any advice to help you deal with all that stuff.  It's not really an area I know much about.

But I would like to say that you're a cool poster, I like you, I feel terrible for you right now, and I really wish you the best in coming to terms with everything that's happened. 

hang in there bud
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaPsTA on February 20, 2010, 01:30:23 AM
Why the hell are straight guys so freaked out by being hit on gays? Are we freaked out by being hit on women we're not attracted to? Jesus.

To answer the second question - yes. If a guy is hit on by a girl he's not attracted to, it makes him feel like girls he's not attracted to (for whatever reason), find him to be what they want and/or obtainable to them.

Which leads to the answer to the first question. There are some guys that no guy man is ever going to hit on. If a gay guy is hitting on you, you're not one of those guys. You don't want to be someone the gays find obtainable and/or what they want.

Soooo me and my girlfriend broke up (this was a few weeks ago), it was a mutual thing since it just kinda wasn't working out, but apparently my best friend thought it was a good idea to ask her out a few days later! Now they're dating. Awesome amiright? :neverusethis:

Just to reiterate, a best friend is never the rebound boyfriend of your ex-girlfriend.

icysk8ter - If you're thinking of telling your parents you're gay, STOP AND DO NOT DO IT. If that's not your problem, then shoot me a PM I guess.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaPsTA on February 20, 2010, 02:10:48 AM
So a few months ago I meet this girl who seemed to take an intrest in me. And finally three weeks ago -- after not sleeping for a week -- I get the balls to ask her out and she said yes... and now she's pretty much ignored my existance since then.

I asked her if I did something wrong, she says no, says it's other stuff in her life, but doesn't really cheer up when we're around one another. So I have no fricking clue what I did. I thought her saying no would be the worst, but at least I would know where she stands then. This is just torture.

You ask her out.
She says yes.
She doesn't act on what she said and makes excuses for it.

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I don't really know. She said she would go to a movie, I just had to give her a day. I've asked her a few times and she's always busy. It doesn't even have to be a "date" I just like spending time with her.

She continues to avoid spending time with you and continues making excuses for why she does so. Instead of telling you she isn't interested, she continues to lead you on.

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I know that's what I should do, but it's so hard when I care about her as much as I do. It kills me becasue I feel like I'm making her sad and I'd stop asking in a second if she just told me to... but she hasn't, so that still kind of gives me some hope. We work together, so we're kind of forced to talk.

If you think you're making her sad, and you say you love her, why are you doing things that make her feel negatively emotionally?

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I spent about four hours with her the night I asked her, she was fine then. She said yes, we hugged each good bye and she hasn't said much since. We've talked a few times since then, but only breifly when we were alone and she kept insisting that I hadn't done anything wrong. Her actions are speaking louder though. I'm gonna try a few more times to get her to talk, maybe it really is the other stuff she's worried about; which is part of the reason I want to take her out and get her mind off stuff. I just don't want to frak it up so bad that we can't go back to being friends.

 - Hugging each other goodbye is meaningless. Women today hug for whatever reason.

 - "Her actions are speaking louder though." Maybe the most important thing you typed.

 - You already tried a bunch of times. Maybe it's a dead end? And even if there really is other stuff she's worried about (which I find questionable), isn't what you're doing exacerbating the problem?

 - "I just don't want to frak it up so bad that we can't go back to being friends." Then you should have aborted.

Random thought that I don't have a good answer for - What happened to taking time to cultivate relationships? Guys seem to have this attitude that if they don't ask a girl they meet out ASAP then there's no chance. Have the ideas behind ladder theory really achieved this level of cultural osmosis? Because if that's the case - we're doomed.

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Yeah, I definately have to ask her questions to get her to talk, but she has a few times, which is good I guess. I actually am usually pretty quiet too, and I think that's part of why I like her, because she'll actully listen to me. I'm hoping that she's not taking it that all I do is complain though.

You're talking - but you're not the one in emotional control of the situation. Nothing you say phases her - you hang on her every word.

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o I tell that girl I was talking about earlier in the thread on Monday "I wanna tell you something, come talk if you can." I left out the "I want to ask you out Friday night" part.

"Alright I'll try." So Monday nothing. Tuesday nothing.

I don't know if it's a good thing to try the same thing as before and expect a different result.

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This morning I see her again, in class. She sits in front of me. So her friend beside her introduces her to this guy beside her. Not sure who he is. They smile at one another. Great, I think. He walks up to her after class, "So what are you doing now?" It was like a freaking dream.  "Sorry, gotta go to class," she says. OK, maybe she didn't like him. She walks down the hall to her friend (as I try to keep up with her) "So, I just met someone," she says and smiles. I want to slit my wrists at this point.

Three things jump to mind:

 - Her interest in the guy makes it seem like she isn't actually too distracted by other issues to have a boyfriend. We'll get back to this in a second though.

 - Did she really have to go to class? Why wouldn't she talk to the guy but she'd talk to her friend? Maybe I'm reading too much into this.

 - Why were you stalking her? If she's really your friend, isn't she interested in where you are at the moment?

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Finally I catch up to her, "Are you gonna be busy at 3? Stop by and see me." "I'm doing something with my friend here, but I'll try." Alright, finally. Go to class, distracted by thinking about what I'm gonna say to her. Completely frak over a quiz in Physics.

Sitting, waiting for her, nothing. I text her: "Stop by, I wanna talk to you." She's got class in the one room at 3:30, I had to go to that building anyway, so I hang around. Nothing. She sends me a text: "My boyfriend came home from college, I'm not on campus. Sorry. E-mail me."

Okay, so basically, she isn't willing to tell you she simply has a boyfriend. And then, if I read what you posted just a couple paragraphs ago correctly - you made it sound like she was interested in another guy while she had a boyfriend. Why would you be interested in someone so fundamentally dishonest?

I don't know what it means, but why would she ask you specifically to email her? Maybe she doesn't want your text messages on her phone?

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Well, HOLY FUCK! Lost has nothing on my life. Talk about disbelief. Now she's gotten a boyfriend in the two weeks that she's avoided me enough that I didn't have a chance to ask her out. Asked her about lunch tomorrow, I still want to talk to her, but I guess the Friday night movie just got cancelled.  I know I should just say, screw it, and move on, but just wow.

You know what you should do. It's not even like this girl is a good person who just isn't right for you or isn't able to be emotionally available to you in the right way. I'm not saying she's a bad person (I simply don't know if that's true or not), but she's being dishonest in very fundamental ways.

If you do decide to end what I think is a futile quest, do not, DO NOT try to get in some kind of amazing last words. Unlike TV shows, dramatic real life events often don't get great speeches to conclude them, and this is one of those times. Just say something like "You know what, I didn't know you had a boyfriend, so don't worry about trying to set up a date, I don't want to mess up your relationship. I'll see you around school and work." It's a clear boundary statement (not boyfriend and girlfriend), it's not over-dramatic, and it's just simply polite.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: blackngold29 on February 20, 2010, 07:57:28 AM
Hey dude, thanks for all your responses. I e-mailed her a big long message and kind of let it all out. It got her attention and she said she just wanted to be friends. It's been two weeks and we haven't got back to where we were (didn't expect we would this quick) but she will talk to me again.

It's almost weird now because by telling her everything I feel like I put her in a bit of an awkward situation; I didn't really have many options at that point though to save our friendship and I'm glad it seemed to work (so far, *knock on wood*). I was gonna tell her yesterday that I understand that, but chickened out. I wanted to ask, "Did we ever have a chance?" if she were to say yes to that I guess I don't think I would feel as bad.

I'm honestly trying to let her go, but she's different than any other girl that I've liked before. I'm just going to continue to be as good of a friend as I can, keep the conversation on other things. If there's ever a chance for us I think that to become a good friend first is the way to do it and then hopefully she'll realize everything and really open up (that sounded really naughty didn't? I didn't mean it like that!)
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on February 20, 2010, 08:35:17 AM
Let it out, kiddo.
I did, I felt better afterwards.

Hey man, hang in there.  You are experiencing very conflicting feelings right now.  On one hand, you are feeling protective of a family member you love, a very natural feeling.  On the other hand, the guilt and shame you have kept bottled up inside you over the past has just been released in an instant(I have a very similar childhood background, and I know very well the shame it builds on you).  These two emotions are very conflicting, and being as young as you are, it is probably very difficult two deal with both at the same time.  My primary advice is to be there for your cousin during her healing process.  She will need your support in ways you can't imagine in the coming months.  The guilt and shame you hold over your past isn't going anywhere, I know this well, for I still feel mine, 25 years after the fact.  You have a lifetime to deal with it, and it does get better over time, trust me.  Right now, channel your anger and frustration into helping your cousin, that in itself will hold it's own healing benefits for you.  I will be signing off in a while, and won't be back till tomorrow afternoon, but feel free, please, to PM me with any questions or concerns you have.  Once again, hang in there bud.
I wont bother you with asking for details, or anything. Yeah, that's pretty much what I was thinking, and I think, what would help the best is if we actually talked about it, to gain closure. Neither of us hate eachother, but, I don't know if she feels anything bad towards me because of it, or if it would help her too. BUT, I'm going to wait for a time when she is recovered.

I'm sorry, DMoS, I don't have any advice to help you deal with all that stuff.  It's not really an area I know much about.

But I would like to say that you're a cool poster, I like you, I feel terrible for you right now, and I really wish you the best in coming to terms with everything that's happened. 

hang in there bud
Cheered me up, haha. Thanks Phantasmatron. And, after 10 hours of sleep I feel more relaxed, and less confused. I think I'll be okay. And as for my course of action, I put that in the reply above. :p


Thank you all who read, I took it down because I really don't want that circulating too much, I posted it because none of my friends were awake or able to talk. I needed somewhere to vent. So to those who read it, shhh :p Thank you all.  :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: blackngold29 on February 20, 2010, 05:12:53 PM
Having a bad day, just things that have been building up for a while are all getting to me now. The first one I suppose is from my job at my school newspaper. I’m the editor, which is cool being in charge and all, but the situation that I and the other people I work with inherited from last semester can only be described as a clusterfuck. It wasn’t completely their fault because they had little experience and they were really the only ones that stepped up to do it. That being said, the quality of the paper—when it came out—was pretty poor and even worse is that they had a horrible person in charge of the money.

Their advisor didn’t do all that great a job keeping them in line. So this semester, we replaced the entire staff and have a new advisor. I had a bunch of new ideas that I wanted to try out, but because we were left with shambles we’ve been pretty bogged down trying to clean up their mess instead of moving forward. I’m now stuck being the editor, web editor, taking care of the money, doing the layout and graphics, being the PR guy, not to mention writing articles and a blog for the website. Ideally that’s the work of four different people.

Now it’s a fun job, but to do all that (it’s been about 20-25 hours per week) on top of school is pretty tough. All the feedback that we’ve gotten has been very positive. There hasn’t been all that much feedback though, so I’m starting to wonder if all of this effort is really worth it. The other people on the staff are all great, they all write and do a good job. I’ve tried to figure out how I can give them some of the workload that I do, but I don’t know if I trust that they’ll do as good a job as I do (that might sound like I have an ego, but it’s based on what I’ve seen them do before) and I feel that as the editor I have an obligation to do most of the work.
Last semester if I was having a tough time with something, I would just put all my effort into my school work and it did pay off. I was actually proud of myself for the first time in a long time. This semester though, I just can’t get into any of my classes. It’s all the opposite of my major.
Then there’s this whole mess with a girl (scroll up for more on that). I don’t know what it is. I do everything I can to stop thinking about her, but I can’t. I’ve pretty much accepted that it’s not gonna happen with us, at least any time soon, but that hasn’t made much of a difference.

I purposely limited my social life in high school, because I saw other people having relationship problems and I didn’t figure anything serious was bound to happen in high school anyway; that there was a very good chance that it would amount to no more than a headache and a heartache, so I just completely avoided it. Now, when I finally think I found “her,” that’s exactly what happens.

So I was trying to think of somebody who I could talk to (well, bitch-and-complain to), I realize that there’s nobody there. It kind of hit me this morning that I’ve never really had a “best friend.” I mean I can walk around school and there’s not a lack of people that I know, but nobody that I would get this personal with. I have a few good friends, but we’ve never really talked about feelings and love or stuff like that. Ironically the one person who I thought that I could go to, who would actually listen, is aforementioned girl. (I think) She’s the one that comes closest to grasping how much I do for the paper.

Back when my depression was worse I went to the psychiatrist and he tried to give me drugs, and I didn’t really want them. So I tried to go and talk to him a few times, but I realized that I didn’t need a doctor; he didn’t give a frak about me. I needed a friend.

I’m not as bad as I used to be, though it does certainly come up every once in a while—now for instance. I was supposed to go out to dinner with my family tonight, didn’t really want to but I figured I would try it, not sure what happened. We got to the restaurant and I was like, ‘screw this.’ And I walked a half mile home instead of going in. During my walk I thought about most of what I just wrote and figured since I can’t tell anyone, I might as well tell you guys.

Beyond all that I kind of feel like a jerk because I know I have it 100 times better than so many other people out there. Hell, I’m better off than people in this thread. But thanks for listening anyway.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Tick on February 20, 2010, 08:57:10 PM
I'm just too bummed to read this thread right now...
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on February 20, 2010, 09:01:00 PM
I'm just too bummed to read this thread right now...

Would you like to talk about it?
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: blackngold29 on February 20, 2010, 09:02:31 PM
Wow, I didn't realize how long that post was. I didn't really expect anyone to read it, just good to type it all out sometimes. Not that I feel a hell of a lot better or anything, lol.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Marvellous G on February 21, 2010, 03:17:35 PM
My problems pale in comparison to you guys', and I'm gonna get round to reading them tomorrow, but right now it's bedtime on the last night of holidays.  :sadpanda:
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on February 21, 2010, 06:42:33 PM
Goddamn I hate putting faith into something and then realizing that all you're doing is taking a step forward while taking 2 steps back.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on February 21, 2010, 06:45:34 PM
My problems pale in comparison to you guys'
Any problem is equally a problem.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on February 21, 2010, 06:45:57 PM
Goddamn I hate putting faith into something and then realizing that all you're doing is taking a step forward while taking 2 steps back.

It's amazing how little help one can give with no details. Unless of course you're discussing shoots and latters or something.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on February 21, 2010, 07:09:38 PM
Naw, I don't really need help, I just needed to write something down because I was on DTF when it all went down and I figured I'd write something.

I know what needs to be done, I just don't want to do it :/ It involves my ex simply put, and I need to just cut her out of my life. I keep letting her sneak back in.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on February 21, 2010, 07:16:51 PM
So it doesn't involve chutes and latters?
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on February 21, 2010, 07:19:16 PM
If only it did :(
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on February 21, 2010, 07:20:27 PM
You know, it still can.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on February 21, 2010, 07:21:24 PM
I like the way you think.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on February 21, 2010, 07:22:35 PM
I like the way you think.

Hrmm, I'll look into it  . . . .
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on February 23, 2010, 04:50:02 PM
For now all I will say is FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll add some details later
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: icysk8r on March 01, 2010, 09:01:40 AM
Still here.  Still depressed.  My life is so messed up right now, I have random panic attacks, or anxiety attacks, I don't know what they are, all the time.  I start to hypoventalate (sp) and my heart pounds heavy and I feel like I can't breathe and everything is dizzy and I just want to hurt things.  I don't like them. Therapy isn't helping much, since my therapists asks me questions, but doesn't give me any answers.  He is the only one getting information about me, I am not getting information about me.
Sigh..
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on March 01, 2010, 09:16:01 AM
You should look getting some anti-anxiety medicine, panic attacks are horrible and should be treated seriously.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Tuneman on March 01, 2010, 09:21:02 AM
Still here.  Still depressed.  My life is so messed up right now, I have random panic attacks, or anxiety attacks, I don't know what they are, all the time.  I start to hypoventalate (sp) and my heart pounds heavy and I feel like I can't breathe and everything is dizzy and I just want to hurt things.  I don't like them. Therapy isn't helping much, since my therapists asks me questions, but doesn't give me any answers.  He is the only one getting information about me, I am not getting information about me.
Sigh..



wait so why is your life messed up? What is the cause of the panic attacks/depression?
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: icysk8r on March 01, 2010, 09:24:59 AM
I won't say that much on a public forum.  It's just a lot of shit has happened in a very short amount of time.  Since the end of november my life has been getting worse and worse.  No, this isn't some teen drama stuff, this is more serious stuff.  I just want my life to be back to the way it was, but that won't happen.  That can never happen after all I've experienced.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on March 01, 2010, 09:27:01 AM
It's a dreary day today.  My girlfriend told me last night that she had a grandmother that passed away three years ago that she was very close to, and today would've been her grandmother's birthday.  It's affecting her pretty strongly.  In addition, my best friend's girlfriend just found out last night that one of her closest guy friends from back home was killed in a car crash.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on March 01, 2010, 10:11:02 AM
Sweet, I am feeling majorly depressed.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on March 01, 2010, 12:12:08 PM
Sweet, I am feeling majorly depressed.

What's up?
It's a dreary day today.  My girlfriend told me last night that she had a grandmother that passed away three years ago that she was very close to, and today would've been her grandmother's birthday.  It's affecting her pretty strongly.  In addition, my best friend's girlfriend just found out last night that one of her closest guy friends from back home was killed in a car crash.

Sorry to hear that, just stay by your gf's side and give her comfort. Let her go at her own pace.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Shadow2222 on March 01, 2010, 12:20:22 PM
I'm not super depressed like I was a few weeks ago, but man do I feel lonely. It is so hard to find a gay guy in this school. I know its my senior year and I can wait, but I dunno... I just feel REALLY lonely.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on March 01, 2010, 02:08:20 PM
Senior in high school? I understand it can be hard, I don't know how old you are but maybe try a dating site, like plentyoffish.com?

Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: lonestar on March 01, 2010, 02:15:32 PM
I'm not super depressed like I was a few weeks ago, but man do I feel lonely. It is so hard to find a gay guy in this school. I know its my senior year and I can wait, but I dunno... I just feel REALLY lonely.
Just show some patience till you get out of high school.  Things do become more open after.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on March 01, 2010, 02:27:24 PM
I agree with lonestar, it's so funny how different things are after high school. My post High School years are definitely the best times of my life.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on March 01, 2010, 02:32:49 PM
I don't feel that great.

All I've ever wanted to do is write music and sing and whatever, but I just feel so bad about myself that I feel like I wont ever amount to anything. Today I even just screwed around and recorded noises and posted that in the creative works subforum. It feels like I'll never write a song again.

I just think I would feel better if I had something to make me feel better about.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: lonestar on March 01, 2010, 02:36:55 PM
I don't feel that great.

All I've ever wanted to do is write music and sing and whatever, but I just feel so bad about myself that I feel like I wont ever amount to anything. Today I even just screwed around and recorded noises and posted that in the creative works subforum. It feels like I'll never write a song again.

I just think I would feel better if I had something to make me feel better about.
*smacks upside the head*

Dude, you are an incredably intelligent and talented person.  Show some patience and take the time for your natural gifts to come to fruition.  And never forget that art is first and foremost done for one's own self, the rest of us are just beneficiaries.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on March 01, 2010, 02:38:21 PM
That actually made me feel a bit better. Thank you.  :)
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: lonestar on March 01, 2010, 02:39:03 PM
That actually made me feel a bit better. Thank you.  :)
:tup
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on March 01, 2010, 02:46:37 PM
I'm not super depressed like I was a few weeks ago, but man do I feel lonely. It is so hard to find a gay guy in this school. I know its my senior year and I can wait, but I dunno... I just feel REALLY lonely.

I know it may not help much, but I echo what lonestar and reaperkk said. Dude, life after high school is way better. Of course, there will be some growing pains there as well, but the good outweighs the bad by far.

I don't feel that great.

All I've ever wanted to do is write music and sing and whatever, but I just feel so bad about myself that I feel like I wont ever amount to anything. Today I even just screwed around and recorded noises and posted that in the creative works subforum. It feels like I'll never write a song again.

I just think I would feel better if I had something to make me feel better about.

Music is an art, and I'm learning this fact myself more and more. I write music as well, and play in a band at church.

I've found that when you do NOT do it for fame/success/money, the pleasure truly is yours, it becomes a lot more fun, and it shows in the music you do. That also becomes a lot more attractive and will gain you fans that can share in your fun and experience. Live life, dude, don't try to gain life.

Sweet, I am feeling majorly depressed.

What's up?

I am feeling general loneliness. I'm trying not to vent to my IRL friends because it seems awkward. You guys are my friends as well, but a bit of anonymity and online community lets me vent easier, ya know?

Like, all of a sudden a lot of my friends are dating, and I feel abandoned. It's not their fault; we are all busy anyways with school, work, church, and stuff, but seeing them have something I'd also like to have. . .it just puts crap into perspective and can get me down.

I need to learn to be more optimistic and not focus on stuff like that. I know that already. I just break down every once in a while. I'll get my own girl one day again, I have faith in God for that.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: lonestar on March 01, 2010, 05:58:34 PM
As we all know, music helps depression.  I just wantted to share the lyrics of one song in particular that helps me out a lot.....

Speak My Name by I.Q.
Whenever I was silenced, when I was on my own
A brutal cold existence, I believed I was gone
Now I stand no longer nameless
Though I've lost more than I'll find
A simple moment set aside
And I feel like I'm mine
There are times when I remember
But in my heart I'm not the same
And I feel myself connected
Every time you speak my name
You speak my name
Without the darkness in my soul
With arms to call my own
I face a future unafraid
And I won't be alone
There's a place where all my dreaming
Will free me from what I became
And I know no-one can reach me
Every time you speak my name
You speak my name
There are times when I remember
But in my heart I'm not the same
And I feel myself protected
Every time you speak my name
You speak my name
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: icysk8r on March 01, 2010, 06:35:35 PM
I don't feel that great.

All I've ever wanted to do is write music and sing and whatever, but I just feel so bad about myself that I feel like I wont ever amount to anything. Today I even just screwed around and recorded noises and posted that in the creative works subforum. It feels like I'll never write a song again.

I just think I would feel better if I had something to make me feel better about.
ALL OF THIS.  You would think that with all of this depression, I would have a lot to write about but I can't write at all.  I'm so depressive that I can't even write because I can't describe how I'm feeling.  Maybe I'm just not a good writer.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Pyroph on March 01, 2010, 06:38:17 PM
Emailed a friend I met when I first got to college that I stopped hanging around with since last year and it's been bugging me so I emailed her last night. She still hasn't replied.  :sadpanda:
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on March 02, 2010, 08:04:32 AM
I am feeling general loneliness. I'm trying not to vent to my IRL friends because it seems awkward. You guys are my friends as well, but a bit of anonymity and online community lets me vent easier, ya know?

Like, all of a sudden a lot of my friends are dating, and I feel abandoned. It's not their fault; we are all busy anyways with school, work, church, and stuff, but seeing them have something I'd also like to have. . .it just puts crap into perspective and can get me down.

I need to learn to be more optimistic and not focus on stuff like that. I know that already. I just break down every once in a while. I'll get my own girl one day again, I have faith in God for that.


I can totally relate to you. For me the start of January was great but things are going downhill, it seems if I take one step forward and then two or three steps back a few days later. This is all referencing my relationships with other people.

What bothers me is I'm having a hell of a year otherwise, I've made over $10k in my trading in the past few months, I'm graduating from UF in a few months and I'm going to Miami to shop for an apartment (I may even consider buy a house with my mom as a co-signer). Financially, I'm 23, and I'm well off, I have all my things together but none of it makes me happy, at all.

My best quality is my optimism, my patience, and how I keep faith (I'm not religious, just faith in general goodness of people) but for the first time in my life it's disappearing, my optimism, patience and faith and that is what is getting me down. I really just want to get my friends and family in order.

Anyway sorry for going off on my own tangent but I still say keep your chin up, it may be a dark hour but time never stops and you keep moving forward.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Marvellous G on March 02, 2010, 11:36:42 AM
Not really that bad of a situation objectively, but my guitar exam grade 6 snuck up on me, and is in 2 weeks. I know little theory and have never taken a music exam before, and I can't imagine how embarassing it will be if I fail. Which I might.  :-\
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on March 02, 2010, 11:59:01 AM
Not really that bad of a situation objectively, but my guitar exam grade 6 snuck up on me, and is in 2 weeks. I know little theory and have never taken a music exam before, and I can't imagine how embarassing it will be if I fail. Which I might.  :-\

Are you in 6th grade or did I totally misread that?
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Marvellous G on March 02, 2010, 12:00:28 PM
No sorry I worded it badly, I'm doing a Grade 6 exam. Maybe they use a different system here in the UK or something?
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on March 02, 2010, 06:20:14 PM
No sorry I worded it badly, I'm doing a Grade 6 exam. Maybe they use a different system here in the UK or something?

I just know in Canada they called 6th grade, grade 6.  My bad.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: icysk8r on March 09, 2010, 09:14:55 AM
My life has changed so much in the past....since november.  I don't feel like counting.  And that is exactly the problem.  I don't feel like doing anything.  I feel like just laying down and staying there forever.  Back before, I used to be happy, and I used to care about stuff.  I careed about getting good grades, keeping up relationships and friends, and cared about myself.  Now I have like a C average and am failing some classes.  I have been cutting classes. I even took blank hall passes so I could do it.  I don't care if my friends stay, well I kinda do, but not really.  But oh well.  This is how it's gonna be for a while.  Just thought I should give an update if anyone cares.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: lonestar on March 09, 2010, 12:47:36 PM
We do care. :heart


I noticed that around Nov, you kinda fell of the face of DTF, and have been just recently posting on a more regular basis.  Did something happen that you should talk about with someone.  I mean here, or in your world, but to someone.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: DREAMS FTIME45 on March 09, 2010, 04:49:42 PM
To anyone here whom is having or has had depression or suicidal feelings please tell someone.
Really it does help to speak up.
Don't be the next statistic.
Be brave and speak about it.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Logical Nightmare on March 10, 2010, 01:33:08 PM
I knew I couldn't stay out of this thread for too long.

Last term, I had a really tough time because me and my boyfriend were going through something and I was worried we couldn't make it. We did, eventually.
Then, a month before Christmas vacations I began feeling really stressed about school and grades.
It disappeared when the term ended and instead I began feeling extremely worried about my friends leaving me, just because they were celebrating New Year's without me.
Then school started and I spent a whole day crying because my boyfriend's schedule was better than mine.
Then I spent some time constantly worrying that I was doing things wrong and that people wouldn't want to be with me.
Then I began feeling the school stress again and I started crying in school because I only got the second highest grade on an exam.
Now I'm completely devastated because I'm officially not in my band anymore.

Everything just piles up on me right now. I'm getting worse and worse at handling failures and I'm spending more and more of my time feeling sad, trying to determine what I should do about it.

But I can't do anything about it and it just makes me feel worse all the time...
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: DREAMS FTIME45 on March 10, 2010, 04:22:11 PM
You can do something about it.
Go see a friend or family member and talk about it.
You might say well talking about it is one thing doing something about it is another thing.
Look in a nutshell talking to someone about your problems will help you and the person you talk to understand what is going on and then you can make a strategy about what you are going to do about it rather than become another statistic.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on March 10, 2010, 04:39:21 PM
Aranka, don't you know how many people would kill to be you? You are constantly making me jealous with how talented you are and how much of yourself you devote to your martial arts and tennis. You are undeniably intelligent, and I hope you know how silly it is to consider getting second best on an exam to be a failure.

You need to realize that the world is not ending all the time. When bad things come your way, you need to take a deep breath and size them up. Spatial awareness is so important to this.


Is getting second best on an exam so bad? Of course not. The person who received the lowest score is someone who did not do well enough.

Is that band the only band you could ever be in? Of course not. They may be, or have been, your friends, but what they did was an insensitive thing on their part.





It. Is. Not. Your. Fault.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Logical Nightmare on March 11, 2010, 07:25:26 AM
About the grades: I know it's really stupid. It's what I tell myself all the time. But always getting the best grade has become an obsession for me and I can't seem to get rid of it. A week ago I went to a psychologist to get rid of this problem, and we're meeting next week again, and so I hope tthat I will get better.

About the band: Becoming a member of that band was a dream coming true for me. That dream was recently just ripped out of my hands. It hurts, I feel abandoned, and it's not making it any better that the band is so successful now. I've promised not to be a bitch about it anymore, but it makes me sad nevertheless, and I have to spend time with the band members every day, they're my friends. I guess I'll get over it, but right now it just hurts too much.

My boyfriend has part in all this... I always feel he overachieves me. Watching him get a better grade than me or getting cheered at on a scene while I'm just in the audience makes me really jealous, and then I feel guilty for feeling jealous and get mad at myself. I hate that.

There are too many things in my life that make me feel bad. That's the problem. Constantly thinking about solving those things doesn't make me feel any better, either.

But thanks for your kind words.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Hyperplex on March 11, 2010, 07:31:48 AM
Since I've gotten healthier and other things in life have come around, I've had an easier time dealing with my depression. It's still there in the back of my mind, like a shadow I can't really outrun, but when things are going better in my life it's easier to keep at bay. Winter is always very difficult for me (this past year being absolutely NO exception), but the arrival of spring sometimes serves to raise my spirits a bit.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: icysk8r on March 11, 2010, 08:58:51 AM
We do care. :heart


I noticed that around Nov, you kinda fell of the face of DTF, and have been just recently posting on a more regular basis.  Did something happen that you should talk about with someone.  I mean here, or in your world, but to someone.
Thank you for caring.  I am glad to see people care.  :)  Yes a lot happened.  A LOT.  I go to therapy and talk to my friends.  Still doesn't help with my depression though. 

I'm being prescribed medication for anxiety so that's good.  Hopefully it will help take off the stress.  I'm not suicidal or anything, so I guess that's good too.  I'm kind of in the middle.  I don't want to live and I don't want to die.



If I was religious I might think about killing myself.  But considering I don't believe in anythig beyond death, I don't wanna go that way.


You know, it's weird.  All of this that has happened, has erased my conscience.  I don't feel bad for things.  I still know consequences, but I don't feel bad when I do things anymore.  Maybe that's good, maybe it's bad, but I kinda like it. I'm tired of feeling guilty for everything I do.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on March 11, 2010, 09:00:52 AM
Since I've gotten healthier and other things in life have come around, I've had an easier time dealing with my depression. It's still there in the back of my mind, like a shadow I can't really outrun, but when things are going better in my life it's easier to keep at bay. Winter is always very difficult for me (this past year being absolutely NO exception), but the arrival of spring sometimes serves to raise my spirits a bit.

Get out into the sun more? Sunlight is like proven to make you happier, maaaan.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Hyperplex on March 11, 2010, 09:04:59 AM
Dude, I know. :p I was merely stating an update.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: DREAMS FTIME45 on March 11, 2010, 06:55:10 PM
Let me tell you my side of the story and I hope it helps somebody out there
One saturday night a long time ago my mum and dad were at home and then dad's brother came over.
They were as happy as kids in a playground.
For some strange weird reason I felt horrible inside and on the outside.
I thought well there is only one way to get attention.
So I thought I would o'd on something.
I went straight to the medicine cabinet and got the 1st thing that was in my hands at the time.
It was asprin
So I thought I would o'd on them
So I took a few and then nothing happened.
I tried to committ suicide by taking asprin
It did not work
But you know what?
I am fucking alive and happy to be alive. Have the best friends and family in the world.
And I love being me and alive and well
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on March 11, 2010, 08:44:39 PM
About the grades: I know it's really stupid. It's what I tell myself all the time. But always getting the best grade has become an obsession for me and I can't seem to get rid of it. A week ago I went to a psychologist to get rid of this problem, and we're meeting next week again, and so I hope tthat I will get better.

About the band: Becoming a member of that band was a dream coming true for me. That dream was recently just ripped out of my hands. It hurts, I feel abandoned, and it's not making it any better that the band is so successful now. I've promised not to be a bitch about it anymore, but it makes me sad nevertheless, and I have to spend time with the band members every day, they're my friends. I guess I'll get over it, but right now it just hurts too much.

My boyfriend has part in all this... I always feel he overachieves me. Watching him get a better grade than me or getting cheered at on a scene while I'm just in the audience makes me really jealous, and then I feel guilty for feeling jealous and get mad at myself. I hate that.

There are too many things in my life that make me feel bad. That's the problem. Constantly thinking about solving those things doesn't make me feel any better, either.

But thanks for your kind words.

What I'm trying to say is that it is o.k. to feel the way you feel. Be as sad or depressed or angry as you feel. But you have to look on the bright side of things as well. That's all. A good balance is healthy.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Fuzzboy on March 11, 2010, 09:07:45 PM
Edit:nvm
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: icysk8r on March 11, 2010, 09:28:39 PM
Let me tell you my side of the story and I hope it helps somebody out there
One saturday night a long time ago my mum and dad were at home and then dad's brother came over.
They were as happy as kids in a playground.
For some strange weird reason I felt horrible inside and on the outside.
I thought well there is only one way to get attention.
So I thought I would o'd on something.
I went straight to the medicine cabinet and got the 1st thing that was in my hands at the time.
It was asprin
So I thought I would o'd on them
So I took a few and then nothing happened.
I tried to committ suicide by taking asprin
It did not work
But you know what?
I am fucking alive and happy to be alive. Have the best friends and family in the world.
And I love being me and alive and well
There could be a lot of differences between your story and others' though.  You tried to commit suicide for attention, when with some people that is far from what they want.  They just don't want to live anymore.  I'm not saying one is better than the other, or that either is good at all, but some people may find it hard to relate to that story.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Marvellous G on April 02, 2010, 12:31:05 PM
Not to necropost in my own thread, but... (long story incoming)

We have a cottage by the sea which I hate for various reasons which I won't detail here, but it's basically hellish for any teenager, especially in Winter. This year we were going down for Easter and I was having to revise for my GCSEs down there, which only makes matters worse. Now my sister just came back from Uni, and was debating whether to bring her boyfriend down to the cottage with her. I was fine with this as if she did I could bring a friend with me too. Then I was told he definitely wasn't coming, so no need for a friend, it would just be now-rare family time with just the four of us. But then yesterday, the day before we went down, it turns out, gasp, he probably is coming, far too late for me to change my plans and invite a friend.

Now, this is in no way the end of the world, but when you consider I'm a moody teenager who hates our cottage anyway, and will be revising for hateful exams the whole time we're down there, this hardly helped things. So I overreacted and got very angry at her, and this morning she said she was going to leave early to avoid being with me any longer. My parents were shocked and appalled at this, as my sister comes back so rarely from Uni, and is always their ray of happiness when she does because our family can avoid arguments if we're not together for too long, so my parents ordered me to make nice to her or I would be punished accordingly. Naturally I was very angry by this point, as my Easter holidays were just a mass of revision in a place I hate, now with a person I didn't care for as well. While I was overreacting, I admit, I was still angry.

Eventually though we all had a good cry and made up in the car. But before that, when I had my iPod in, my mum, dad and sister all had a conversation IN THE CAR WITH ME when they thought I was oblivious and enjoying my music. But I stealthily paused And Justice For All and listened in, and what I heard hurt quite a bit.

Basically, my mum hates the fact it's just her and me in the house until my dad gets home from work very late every day, because I'm uncommunicative and grumpy after school. She said, truly enough, that I just come home and stay in my room, then come down for dinner, watch some Frasier with her, and 'that's it' as she so aptly put. Apparently I'm also NEVER happy, as when I received the certificate telling me I'd got a distinction in a guitar exam I 'barely smiled'. (although this was just so I didn't appear smug)

While all of this is true, am I really the only teenager in GCSE year who is miserable and stays in their room most of the time? I'm perfectly happy and animated with my friends at school, but I admit I'm curt and irritable afterwards at home, mainly because I have yet more homework to get on with anyway.

What should I do DTF? I'm actually very worried, I don't want to be effectively ruining my mum's life so I suppose I should talk to her and prove I'm not clinically depressed and in need of help as she suspects. To anyone who tries to help, thank you for suffering through that wall of text.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on April 19, 2010, 07:26:48 PM
Well, I think that is all pretty normal for a teenager. I was grumpy as hell at home in my early teens (also in my later teens but then I was seriously depressed so it was a bit more complicated) and so were a lot of my friends. It's a weird time where boundaries and relationships and people are changing (not to mention all those hormones and shit). It sucks that you had to hear that, but I think your mother should know that kind of stuff if pretty typical and not take it personally. But knowing how she feels now, maybe you can make more of an effort to spend more time with her and be a little nicer. I know from experience that it's much easier to be irritable with your own family because, unless you really fuck each other over, you're stuck together for life... so family will tolerate a lot more shit. But, that doesn't mean you should knowingly dish it out. Once I became more aware of my behavior at home I was able to change it a lot.. I still snap at my mother sometimes when I'm there and then catch myself being really immature and chill out.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on April 19, 2010, 07:28:53 PM
Oh, and now the reason I dug up this thread: I have had a really fucking terrible week. My brother was harassing me through email (as mentioned in another thread) and it really fucked with my head. I am still feeling the effects... and then on top of that, my boyfriend told me last night that he has to do one more semester of school so he will be staying in Jersey instead of moving out here with me. That really just broke my heart.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on April 22, 2010, 07:45:11 PM
All I have to say is FUCK YOU APRIL!!!!! END ALREADY

I thought this would be a good area to vent my april anger.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Sigz on April 22, 2010, 07:58:38 PM
Oh, and now the reason I dug up this thread: I have had a really fucking terrible week. My brother was harassing me through email (as mentioned in another thread) and it really fucked with my head. I am still feeling the effects... and then on top of that, my boyfriend told me last night that he has to do one more semester of school so he will be staying in Jersey instead of moving out here with me. That really just broke my heart.

That really sucks. Long distance relationships are not fun at all. But a semester isn't that long, right? Just a few extra months?



I've also had an awful week. I've been really sick, but completely unable to sleep, so I end up catching a few hours of sleep on the couch at most, which isn't helping the whole illness thing. So then my total lack of energy and general shitty feeling is making it really hard to keep on top of my work, and I can already feel myself slipping behind in two of my classes, which of course stresses me out more. Bah.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on April 22, 2010, 08:10:17 PM
Oh, and now the reason I dug up this thread: I have had a really fucking terrible week. My brother was harassing me through email (as mentioned in another thread) and it really fucked with my head. I am still feeling the effects... and then on top of that, my boyfriend told me last night that he has to do one more semester of school so he will be staying in Jersey instead of moving out here with me. That really just broke my heart.

I don't know how long you've already been long distance but a semester isn't that much more even though it's not ideal. It'll make your reunion all the more better :)

Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on April 22, 2010, 09:12:03 PM
I'm now worried that I did not pass my jazz class. Even after dropping a class to lighten my work load, my job still keeps me too busy to focus on school primarily. I'm lucky if I get any time to do assignments, let alone study for exams. I felt really bad taking the final today, as it felt like I did not know half the material. Thank goodness for multiple choice questioned tests at least.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on April 22, 2010, 09:13:00 PM
Oh, and now the reason I dug up this thread: I have had a really fucking terrible week. My brother was harassing me through email (as mentioned in another thread) and it really fucked with my head. I am still feeling the effects... and then on top of that, my boyfriend told me last night that he has to do one more semester of school so he will be staying in Jersey instead of moving out here with me. That really just broke my heart.

I don't know how long you've already been long distance but a semester isn't that much more even though it's not ideal. It'll make your reunion all the more better :)



Yeah, but it just gets harder and harder with time (I thought it would be the other way around). It's been about 8 months now, I guess. If he still decides to come out here, which he might not (it's all uncertain because I don't even know if I plan on staying out here after I graduate) it would probably be January instead of September. I know it's relatively not too bad but I'm just sick of being alone out here :(

Sigz, that sucks. I've been kinda sick too and also falling behind so I can relate. Fuckin' grad school.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on April 23, 2010, 06:23:14 AM
Having gone through two long distance relationships, they are very hard to work with.

What helps is to have a date where the long distance ends. If you just go in the relationship with no end date things usually get messy. I do however wish you the best!

Out of curiosity where were you thinking of going after graduation?
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Progmetty on April 23, 2010, 08:59:24 AM
My short attention span problem is getting worse, I dunno why and it's depressing the hell out of me.
I have some paper work to do in my job and it's all numbers, yesterday I spent 3 hours doing some calculations that are usually takes 15 minutes tops, I'm depressed cause I felt pity for myself for it.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on April 23, 2010, 04:08:09 PM
Having gone through two long distance relationships, they are very hard to work with.

What helps is to have a date where the long distance ends. If you just go in the relationship with no end date things usually get messy. I do however wish you the best!

Out of curiosity where were you thinking of going after graduation?

Yeah, I have heard that. Well, the long distance was supposed to end this summer when I spent some time back in Jersey and then he came out here with me... and if not then, after next year when I graduate... but I am still up in the air about what I'm doing after I graduate. I mean, I love Colorado but I'm not in love with it. But the thought of going back to Jersey both appeals to and repulses me at the same time. I guess it depends if I get offered a job right away. So yeah, confused and unsure. Thanks though :)

My short attention span problem is getting worse, I dunno why and it's depressing the hell out of me.
I have some paper work to do in my job and it's all numbers, yesterday I spent 3 hours doing some calculations that are usually takes 15 minutes tops, I'm depressed cause I felt pity for myself for it.

I have actually been having some similar issues lately so I feel you. It's part attention span part lack of motivation.. I do a lot of screwing around online rather than the work I should be doing... like right now, for instance! It's also depressing me because I'm falling behind on stuff.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 23, 2010, 07:06:34 PM
Holy fuck I am depressed. Fuck life.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on April 23, 2010, 07:12:04 PM
I'm fucking sick of people cancelling plans with me at the last fucking second >:( >:( >:( :sadpanda: :sadpanda: :sadpanda: :sadpanda: :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Hyperplex on April 23, 2010, 08:58:43 PM
Tonight is the first time in a little while that I feel the familiar crushing wave sweeping over me. I didn't miss this.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on April 23, 2010, 09:03:39 PM
 :-\
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: tri.ad on April 24, 2010, 12:32:26 AM
I'm fucking sick of people cancelling plans with me at the last fucking second >:( >:( >:( :sadpanda: :sadpanda: :sadpanda: :sadpanda: :'( :'( :'( :'(

Yeah, I hate that as well. Sadly, the more you're looking forward to something planned, the more likely it is that it won't happen... :-\
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on April 24, 2010, 03:08:13 AM
I think it just seems that way sometimes.

I've found that sometimes my expectations are too high though when it comes to things going as planned. Things never go as planned and I need to not get upset about that so much. It's life. That said, it still sucks to get bailed on by flaky people. I try to avoid those people.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: nightmare_cinema on April 24, 2010, 04:24:21 AM
What's really getting to me right now is my mum... she's a total mess, killing herself through drink, has liver cirrhosis and is still drinking, lost her job, no prospect for further employment, is depressed and addicted to painkillers ontop of vodka and can't/won't even get her shit together enough to come to my graduation. She's developed agarophobia so it's kinda understandable but it really hurts that she won't even TRY come and see me graduate and to be honest she's just getting worse and worse. She was hospitalised for a couple weeks a few months ago, came out and started drinking immediately. It's so fucking unbelievably frustrating to watch someone you love kill themselves with drink and be miserable and not be able to do anything about it because they won't/can't help themselves :'( When she got sick I did everything I could, I moved her from her house to another place she could afford and packed up the home I grew up in and organised pretty much everything and had to leave a job because she was always ringing and panicking and worrying me because she doesn't eat (and still doesn't). I called an ambulance once when she said she'd almost killed herself and they couldn't do anything, I've taken her to doctors, AA meetings, rehabilitation centres, tried the tough love approach, tried taking all her alcohol, etc. and nothing works.

I'm just trying to ignore it and focus on uni because she's not getting any better and I failed my only module last semester because I had no time/mental capacity to revise for the exam while she was in hospital and I went to see her every day. Urgrgrghrghrhgg! Sorry for epic rant
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on April 24, 2010, 08:01:57 AM
I really hope those conditions improve, as I'm sure you do as well anyway. Some people just do not want to be helped, I suppose.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Hyperplex on April 24, 2010, 08:22:50 AM
I'm realy sorry to hear that n_c. Watching a loved one go through something like that has got to take its toll on you. You're very strong, obviously, and I hope that all ends are favorable.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on April 24, 2010, 12:34:28 PM
Yeah, that must be terrible to watch. I'm all about empowerment and taking control of a situation, but in those situations you have to, as they say, accept the things you can't change. I mean, you can still try to encourage her to go the healthy route but ultimately she makes her own decisions and you can't have the responsibility resting on your shoulders. Do what you can for her and be with her in the moment, but you're not obligated to be with her all the time.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Hyperplex on April 24, 2010, 03:05:10 PM
Why does it seem like every time I have a nice night planned with friends, all usually goes to shit because said friends decide at the last minute that they don't want to go at all? (Rhetorical question, obviously.)
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on April 24, 2010, 03:11:19 PM
Why does it seem like every time I have a nice night planned with friends, all usually goes to shit because said friends decide at the last minute that they don't want to go at all? (Rhetorical question, obviously.)

I think it just seems that way sometimes.

I've found that sometimes my expectations are too high though when it comes to things going as planned. Things never go as planned and I need to not get upset about that so much. It's life. That said, it still sucks to get bailed on by flaky people. I try to avoid those people.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Hyperplex on April 24, 2010, 04:08:20 PM
Oh I know and understand that. As it turns out, we got some even cooler people to go with. It just sucked when the people we had spent time planning with decided to up and ditch out of nowhere. People can be shits.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on April 24, 2010, 04:44:37 PM
I'm fucking sick of people cancelling plans with me at the last fucking second >:( >:( >:( :sadpanda: :sadpanda: :sadpanda: :sadpanda: :'( :'( :'( :'(

Yeah, I hate that as well. Sadly, the more you're looking forward to something planned, the more likely it is that it won't happen... :-\

I don't ask a lot of my friends at all, but when I do, it all goes to pieces. Sometimes I really hate being me
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Hyperplex on April 24, 2010, 04:46:41 PM
It seems to be a rather common thing; people not giving a shit about the people they make plans with. All that matters is their own bullshit and fuck others if they change their minds. I'm happy we found other people to go out with. We should have made plans with them in the first place; they are always cool and up for fun.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: AcidLameLTE on April 24, 2010, 04:58:11 PM
Ever since I moved to Aberdeen, I've struggled to make friends. Not because I'm difficult to get on with or something but because I'm so shy that I never bother to go out, even when I'm invited because I don't know enough people going or something stupid like that and because of that, less and less people are inviting me to do things. First year of university was the fucking worst. I had even less friends than I did now. The only people I could hang out with was my flat mates in the student accomodation and a couple of people from my course.

This is seriously depressing considering how many friends I had in Stornoway and how I pretty much had an oppertunity to hang out with people whenever.

Due to my lack of going out and making friends, I've found it very difficult to find any sort of relationship while I've been here as well.

Life sucks, big time. Sure, I've got a very good work placement, I've got a lot of money coming in, I'm doing well in university, I've got lots of possessions etc. but it doesn't make me happy.

[/rant]
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on April 24, 2010, 08:51:38 PM
You always have us :-*
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: robwebster on April 24, 2010, 09:33:51 PM
Ever since I moved to Aberdeen, I've struggled to make friends. Not because I'm difficult to get on with or something but because I'm so shy that I never bother to go out, even when I'm invited because I don't know enough people going or something stupid like that and because of that, less and less people are inviting me to do things. First year of university was the fucking worst. I had even less friends than I did now. The only people I could hang out with was my flat mates in the student accomodation and a couple of people from my course.

This is seriously depressing considering how many friends I had in Stornoway and how I pretty much had an oppertunity to hang out with people whenever.

Due to my lack of going out and making friends, I've found it very difficult to find any sort of relationship while I've been here as well.

Life sucks, big time. Sure, I've got a very good work placement, I've got a lot of money coming in, I'm doing well in university, I've got lots of possessions etc. but it doesn't make me happy.

[/rant]
Dude, just... go out! Chat to people. You're a pleasant, funny guy. Go to a party, get a couple of drinks down you, and join in a little. If you've got even one mate there, ask them to introduce you to people - get the ball rolling. You won't be their best friends immediately, but you can add them on facebook, say hi to them in the hallways; the works.

I've got a couple of housemates who don't do anything. I'm not sure how many friends they actually have outside of the house. I've never seen them leave the house except to go into town, or to go to lectures. They just sit indoors, watching horror films. I have no idea how - I'm almost too far the other way, I'm the one going a little too wild and sleeping in till two, missing half the lectures in the process. I have no idea how they're content to not know anyone, but they seem to be happy, and so that's fine. But if you're getting a bit wistful, then there's no reason you should think you're not able to find a few chums. Because you are.

Also, everyone's shy. Especially here in Britain. I'm always abluster with words and thoughts and silly jokes but I know that I'm awful at small talk. I always think I'm being tedious and patronising. "So, uni eh? Finished all your lectures? Ah that's pretty cool. Nice to finish your lectures." Blah blah blah blah BLAH! Awful rubbish. But if I told someone I was shy, they'd shower me in phlegm telling me not to be a c*nt. Everyone's riddled with insecurities, but most other people won't even notice you've got anything to be insecure about. Even if they do think "oh, he's not a natural," nobody's gonna go "what a HIDEOUS BASTARD he is for being shy." So don't worry about it! Very few people are lording it over as some kind of arbiter of social taste - by and large, the other person is just as likely also thinking "Oh I hope I'm coming across right." We're all wired the same. Just go outside and have a good laugh!
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: nightmare_cinema on April 25, 2010, 05:41:46 AM
Cheers Hyperplex and sonatafanica.

Yeah, that must be terrible to watch. I'm all about empowerment and taking control of a situation, but in those situations you have to, as they say, accept the things you can't change. I mean, you can still try to encourage her to go the healthy route but ultimately she makes her own decisions and you can't have the responsibility resting on your shoulders. Do what you can for her and be with her in the moment, but you're not obligated to be with her all the time.

Yeah I'm just backing away a bit now. I'm expecting the worst to happen at some point in the not too distant future, if it all goes wrong I know I can look back and believe I really tried my best but ultimately it's all about taking personal responsibility for your own actions so I'm there for her, but I'm not gonna ruin my own life trying to change things I can't affect. I have the best friends in the world for support and music to rely on so it's not as bad as it could be :)
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Pyroph on April 25, 2010, 10:04:32 AM
Went to the dining center today to find a huge hole in a broken window. I think the reason why I'm so quiet/shy from people is from being reinforced from things like this.


Hope your situation gets better nc.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on April 25, 2010, 10:31:04 AM
Cheers Hyperplex and sonatafanica.

Yeah, that must be terrible to watch. I'm all about empowerment and taking control of a situation, but in those situations you have to, as they say, accept the things you can't change. I mean, you can still try to encourage her to go the healthy route but ultimately she makes her own decisions and you can't have the responsibility resting on your shoulders. Do what you can for her and be with her in the moment, but you're not obligated to be with her all the time.

Yeah I'm just backing away a bit now. I'm expecting the worst to happen at some point in the not too distant future, if it all goes wrong I know I can look back and believe I really tried my best but ultimately it's all about taking personal responsibility for your own actions so I'm there for her, but I'm not gonna ruin my own life trying to change things I can't affect. I have the best friends in the world for support and music to rely on so it's not as bad as it could be :)

 :metal
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on April 26, 2010, 10:21:30 AM
I've been feeling a bit low recently, not because there's anything wrong with me personally but because one of my friends is going through a really tough time and I'm the only one she feels she can talk to about it. I really want to be there for her but it's hard because her life is falling to pieces and there's nothing she can do about it. It just sucks 'cos I'm usually really good at listening to people's problems and giving advice, but in this situation I just don't know what to do or say to make her feel better.

And AcidRain, you've now scared me that I won't have any friends when I go to uni. But Robwebster's right; go out and have some fun, us Aberdonians are a friendly bunch.  :)
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: zepp-head on April 26, 2010, 10:59:35 AM
Time to vent.

Rewind to December, I'm saving up for an engagement ring in order to propose to the woman I loved and dated for years.  We were planning a wedding in Summer of 2011 and everything was great.  The day after her birthday/Christmas (they're the same day) she tells me on the phone that she wants a break.  This was completely out of nowhere and I had no reason to assume she was the slightest bit unhappy in any way.  Turns out she had been cheating on me for a week.  She had sex with some random unprotected stranger she met one night before I went up to visit her before Christmas, and then again, the day after I left from visiting her. 

This led to months of feeling awful, as my life had just been completely flipped.  Turns out she went off her medication for anxiety and depression, and she just isn't the same person without it.  In fact, I think she is only capable of being a good person when she is chemically balanced, so she has only continued to get worse.  She is currently living in her parents basement, jobless and sleeping all day, sapping her family of all of their resources (and she is in a lot of financial trouble herself).  For a while I thought I could get it back on track if she went back on medication and went through therapy, but she never had the drive to do so, and wound up using the chance I gave her to get yet a new boyfriend.  She has now had a couple new guys since me and God knows how many she has slept with (I was lucky 16, so she is up to at least 20 now), so I had to cut contact because she treated me so poorly.

Now, we didn't officially live together, but I have a rented house of my own and have tons of her things in it which she said she would let me use until I am done with them.  I am moving soon so the plan is to have her get her things this Wednesday when I am not there.  I made one simple request, that her boyfriend doesn't come to help because I don't want him in my house.  She apparently threw a fit about this and is still fuming.  She told me if I'm going to be such a piss ant that I can box up all her things for her and leave them on the porch.  Seriously?  To make things better, her mother asked me if I have any friends that can help her.  I told her the truth, that all my friends hate her now (her family knows about all the cheating and going off meds) and that none of them would help her.  Can I honestly be expected to accommodate her this much?  Is my request that unreasonable?

She sure wasn't like this when I dated her.  I think it says something that her own family tells me I'm too good for her.  But still, getting that mad over my request makes me want to punch something.  I mean, why am I the bad guy here?
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: robwebster on April 26, 2010, 11:04:15 AM
Mate, she's cheated on you. Repeatedly. She's not got any moral high ground to take. Morally, she's not even clutching at straws - plunging towards the core of the earth. I'd wager not far from the mantle, by now, but she's on her way. To have that level of entitlement is frankly ridiculous. Just keep her stuff until she learns a bit of humility!
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: AcidLameLTE on April 26, 2010, 02:22:01 PM
Ever since I moved to Aberdeen, I've struggled to make friends. Not because I'm difficult to get on with or something but because I'm so shy that I never bother to go out, even when I'm invited because I don't know enough people going or something stupid like that and because of that, less and less people are inviting me to do things. First year of university was the fucking worst. I had even less friends than I did now. The only people I could hang out with was my flat mates in the student accomodation and a couple of people from my course.

This is seriously depressing considering how many friends I had in Stornoway and how I pretty much had an oppertunity to hang out with people whenever.

Due to my lack of going out and making friends, I've found it very difficult to find any sort of relationship while I've been here as well.

Life sucks, big time. Sure, I've got a very good work placement, I've got a lot of money coming in, I'm doing well in university, I've got lots of possessions etc. but it doesn't make me happy.

[/rant]
Dude, just... go out! Chat to people. You're a pleasant, funny guy. Go to a party, get a couple of drinks down you, and join in a little. If you've got even one mate there, ask them to introduce you to people - get the ball rolling. You won't be their best friends immediately, but you can add them on facebook, say hi to them in the hallways; the works.

I've got a couple of housemates who don't do anything. I'm not sure how many friends they actually have outside of the house. I've never seen them leave the house except to go into town, or to go to lectures. They just sit indoors, watching horror films. I have no idea how - I'm almost too far the other way, I'm the one going a little too wild and sleeping in till two, missing half the lectures in the process. I have no idea how they're content to not know anyone, but they seem to be happy, and so that's fine. But if you're getting a bit wistful, then there's no reason you should think you're not able to find a few chums. Because you are.

Also, everyone's shy. Especially here in Britain. I'm always abluster with words and thoughts and silly jokes but I know that I'm awful at small talk. I always think I'm being tedious and patronising. "So, uni eh? Finished all your lectures? Ah that's pretty cool. Nice to finish your lectures." Blah blah blah blah BLAH! Awful rubbish. But if I told someone I was shy, they'd shower me in phlegm telling me not to be a c*nt. Everyone's riddled with insecurities, but most other people won't even notice you've got anything to be insecure about. Even if they do think "oh, he's not a natural," nobody's gonna go "what a HIDEOUS BASTARD he is for being shy." So don't worry about it! Very few people are lording it over as some kind of arbiter of social taste - by and large, the other person is just as likely also thinking "Oh I hope I'm coming across right." We're all wired the same. Just go outside and have a good laugh!
Thanks. I'll try.

And AcidRain, you've now scared me that I won't have any friends when I go to uni. But Robwebster's right; go out and have some fun, us Aberdonians are a friendly bunch.  :)
I'm sure you'll be fine. I'm just too set in my islander ways :P

I've been feeling a bit low recently, not because there's anything wrong with me personally but because one of my friends is going through a really tough time and I'm the only one she feels she can talk to about it. I really want to be there for her but it's hard because her life is falling to pieces and there's nothing she can do about it. It just sucks 'cos I'm usually really good at listening to people's problems and giving advice, but in this situation I just don't know what to do or say to make her feel better.
I hate that feeling :(
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on April 26, 2010, 03:17:25 PM
I've been feeling a bit low recently, not because there's anything wrong with me personally but because one of my friends is going through a really tough time and I'm the only one she feels she can talk to about it. I really want to be there for her but it's hard because her life is falling to pieces and there's nothing she can do about it. It just sucks 'cos I'm usually really good at listening to people's problems and giving advice, but in this situation I just don't know what to do or say to make her feel better.
I hate that feeling :(

Yeah it sucks  :sadpanda:. This thread is pretty depressing...
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: AcidLameLTE on April 26, 2010, 03:19:29 PM
Do you know what's depressing? The lack of good gigs in Aberdeen.

Traveling to Glasgow every time I want to go to a gig is annoying. At least I don't have to take a boat, bus and train to get there now though :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on April 26, 2010, 03:24:05 PM
At least you're going to gigs; none of my friends are into the same music as me so if I want to go see something other than a crappy local band I'd have to go by myself   :(
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: AcidLameLTE on April 26, 2010, 03:29:13 PM
Well, I've only been to three gigs here. One was with your brother (:neverusethis:), when my friend's (from Stornoway) band played in one of the clubs on Belmont Street and some punk band.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on April 26, 2010, 03:38:37 PM
It's so weird you know my brother  :lol

I've been to see a few random bands at Moshulu (I know they've changed name but I can't remember what it's called now) and when I was younger I got into Drummonds with my dad to see my brother play in battle of the bands.

Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: AcidLameLTE on April 26, 2010, 03:51:29 PM
I think it's called The Warehouse now.

I've been to Battle of the Bands in Stornoway plenty of times. In fact, here's where we ran on stage when they were announcing the winners:

(https://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v169/88/49/583802671/n583802671_352278_8739.jpg)

:neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on April 26, 2010, 03:56:36 PM
Nice pic  :lol Which one's you?
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: AcidLameLTE on April 26, 2010, 03:58:14 PM
Left. If you can guess what hoodie I'm wearing (from the small part of the logo that you can see), you get 1 million points.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on April 26, 2010, 04:03:01 PM

How am I supposed to guess from that tiiinnny part?! Not fair. Dammit I want those points!
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Sigz on April 26, 2010, 04:05:14 PM
Protest the Hero?
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: AcidLameLTE on April 26, 2010, 04:05:58 PM
No but I want a PTH hoodie/t-shirt :(

It's Moving Pictures.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on April 26, 2010, 04:08:16 PM
Yay Moving Pictures was my first Rush album  :laugh:
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: soundgarden on April 26, 2010, 04:09:08 PM
I dated a girl for about a year and we were extremely close, almost as if we were one.  Here thoughts were mine, and mine hers.  I felt I met my soul mate, the person who knows every single thing about me and I loved her like nothing else.  I stopped watching porn even.  When I thought about sex, it was always her, always!  My fantasies were always with her.  It was pathetic almost....

I would call her and just leave the phone there, her breathing alone soothed me.  She confided that she knew I was the one she will spend her life with.

Fast forward to earlier last year.  She and I had a fight because she wanted to take the next step, me proposing.  But we were only together for a year, I thought it was a bit reckless.  She then gave me the "if you truly love me you would" which was complete BS.  The fight escalated (our only real big fight ever, mind you).  She had to leave on a trip to Vegas for a week.  So I was home thinking about it, and I decided it was the right thing to do.  We were perfect for each other, we never fight big (except that one time) and we hate being apart, why prolong it?  So I dished out $6,000 and bought a gorgeous ring.  It had this Celtic design engraved on it with nice, but not bombastic, diamond in laid.  

I sent her a text "babe, im sorry for making you angry.  I promise everything will be ok when you return.  Have fun and your ass better not come back broke!"

A few days later I picked her up from the airport.  We took a cab a few blocks from her place and decided to walk the way.  She stopped me and said all of a sudden "i slept with someone".  I froze, my heart began to ache.  Tears instantly from my eyes.  I asked her why and she said "i dont know, but I need you to forgive me.  It was a mistake"

I pulled out the ring, showed her.  She gasped.  I threw it down the sewer and walked away.

I nearly took my life that night.   Good thing I had my friends around.

That was the worse night of my life and god I hope no one ever has to go through that.

So cheers to my fellow depressed.  Life does get better!  Bite the moment and keep looking forward to the bright days!

 :metal
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: AcidLameLTE on April 26, 2010, 04:11:22 PM
Yay Moving Pictures was my first Rush album  :laugh:
:hat

I dated a girl for about a year and we were extremely close, almost as if we were one.  Here thoughts were mine, and mine hers.  I felt I met my soul mate, the person who knows every single thing about me and I loved her like nothing else.

I would call her and just leave the phone there, her breathing alone soothed me.  She confided that she knew I was the one she will spend her life with.

Fast forward to earlier last year.  She and I had a fight because she wanted to take the next step, me proposing.  But we were only together for a year, I thought it was a bit reckless.  She then gave me the "if you truly love me you would" which was complete BS.  The fight escalated (our only real big fight ever, mind you).  She had to leave on a trip to Vegas for a week.  So I was home thinking about it, and I decided it was the right thing to do.  We were perfect for each other, we never fight big (except that one time) and we hate being apart, why prolong it?  So I dished out $6,000 and bought a gorgeous ring.  It had this Celtic design engraved on it with nice, but not bombastic, diamond in laid.  

I sent her a text "babe, im sorry for making you angry.  I promise everything will be ok when you return.  Have fun and your ass better not come back broke!"

A few days later I picked her up from the airport.  We took a cab a few blocks from her place and decided to walk the way.  She stopped me and said all of a sudden "i slept with someone".  I froze, my heart began to ache.  Tears instantly from my eyes.  I asked her why and she said "i dont know, but I need you to forgive me.  It was a mistake"

I pulled out the ring, showed her.  She gasped.  I threw it down the sewer and walked away.

I nearly took my life that night.   Good thing I had my friends around.

That was the worse night of my life and god I hope no one ever has to go through that.

So cheers to my fellow depressed.  Life does get better!  Bite the moment and keep looking forward to the bright days!

 :metal
Wow dude. That's absolutely tragic (I hope that doesn't come off as me being sarcastic because I'm not).
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: soundgarden on April 26, 2010, 04:17:13 PM
I had dropped out of school and at work nothing mattered.  I nearly got fired.   Every night I would imagine in my head another man holding her, being inside her, kissing her, doing things only i was suppose to.  It took me months to fully recover, though I was never able to get into a relationship since her.  I had some flings but nothing manifested.  Till this day, I think of her often but it will be over my dead body that I will get back with that fucking whore.

Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on April 26, 2010, 04:21:05 PM
That must have been rough  :(
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on April 26, 2010, 05:48:48 PM
I think I'm becoming a needy boyfriend.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on April 26, 2010, 05:53:06 PM
Don't sweat it, just remember you have testes.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on April 26, 2010, 05:57:43 PM
It's just like I get depressed when I'm not with her, and lately she hasn't been able to hang out with me as much, causing me to worry.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Darkes7 on April 26, 2010, 06:00:00 PM
soundgarden, that sounds absolutely terrible, and my best wishes for you.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on April 26, 2010, 06:02:52 PM
Oh wow, didn't see that when I posted.  I'm really sorry to hear that man. :sadpanda:
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: zepp-head on April 27, 2010, 08:58:15 AM
I dated a girl for about a year and we were extremely close, almost as if we were one.  Here thoughts were mine, and mine hers.  I felt I met my soul mate, the person who knows every single thing about me and I loved her like nothing else.  I stopped watching porn even.  When I thought about sex, it was always her, always!  My fantasies were always with her.  It was pathetic almost....

I would call her and just leave the phone there, her breathing alone soothed me.  She confided that she knew I was the one she will spend her life with.

Fast forward to earlier last year.  She and I had a fight because she wanted to take the next step, me proposing.  But we were only together for a year, I thought it was a bit reckless.  She then gave me the "if you truly love me you would" which was complete BS.  The fight escalated (our only real big fight ever, mind you).  She had to leave on a trip to Vegas for a week.  So I was home thinking about it, and I decided it was the right thing to do.  We were perfect for each other, we never fight big (except that one time) and we hate being apart, why prolong it?  So I dished out $6,000 and bought a gorgeous ring.  It had this Celtic design engraved on it with nice, but not bombastic, diamond in laid.  

I sent her a text "babe, im sorry for making you angry.  I promise everything will be ok when you return.  Have fun and your ass better not come back broke!"

A few days later I picked her up from the airport.  We took a cab a few blocks from her place and decided to walk the way.  She stopped me and said all of a sudden "i slept with someone".  I froze, my heart began to ache.  Tears instantly from my eyes.  I asked her why and she said "i dont know, but I need you to forgive me.  It was a mistake"

I pulled out the ring, showed her.  She gasped.  I threw it down the sewer and walked away.

I nearly took my life that night.   Good thing I had my friends around.

That was the worse night of my life and god I hope no one ever has to go through that.

So cheers to my fellow depressed.  Life does get better!  Bite the moment and keep looking forward to the bright days!

 :metal

I went through nearly the same thing, though while I hadn't yet bought the ring, I had been saving for one.  Were December not such an expensive month, I probably would have bought the ring and proposed then on Christmas day/her birthday.  If I would have actually went through with it only to have her tell me the truth, I am very afraid of what I might have done to myself.

So while I'm sure it doesn't make you feel better, I feel your pain.  Here I am four months later (we were together for 2 1/4 years) and for the most part things are better, but every once in a while, I get a sick feeling about it.  She wasn't ever supposed to be with anyone else.  She told me she wanted my lips to be the last that she kissed.  We had a wedding and a future planned.  How could she do such a thing?  How could she go through with it and not care?  Why doesn't she miss me as much as I miss her?  It's hard to know what goes through someone's head when they are unfaithful, and I'll sure never know for sure myself. 
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Sigz on May 06, 2010, 10:32:28 PM
Hey everyone  :sadpanda:
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on May 06, 2010, 10:38:56 PM
Hey everyone  :sadpanda:

I'm happy to see you here, which I guess means I should leave. Oh well, it was short but sweet.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Sigz on May 06, 2010, 10:40:55 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: AcidLameLTE on May 07, 2010, 12:36:57 AM
Hey everyone  :sadpanda:
Did you remember Iain Wilson is still alive too? :sadpanda:
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: faemir on May 07, 2010, 09:43:31 AM
O hey guys.  Between my final exams and work, I'll probably be in here a lot.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on May 07, 2010, 03:29:35 PM
Same. I had my last day of school today and now I have three weeks of studying for finals to look forward to.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: AcidLameLTE on May 07, 2010, 03:35:50 PM
If it makes you guys feel any better, I don't have to study until Christmas.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on May 07, 2010, 03:39:45 PM
 :sadpanda:
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: AcidLameLTE on May 07, 2010, 03:41:24 PM
:)
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Sigz on May 07, 2010, 03:43:53 PM
The last few weeks I've just been totally down, and I have no idea why, but I can't really snap out of it for any decent amount of time, and it's really starting to affect school now. Like I'm having the hardest time getting motivated to do anything until the very last instant. And it's not even like I'm spending that free time doing anything - video games, friends, whatever. I'm just moping around my apartment all day.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: AcidLameLTE on May 07, 2010, 03:45:00 PM
 :(
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on May 07, 2010, 03:53:34 PM
I get days like that when I just hang about and do nothing and then get annoyed at myself for not doing anything productive. And this year I've really been struggling to motivate myself to study so now I have a heap of revision to do for finals so I won't be leaving my room for the next three weeks.  :millahhhh
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Sigz on May 07, 2010, 03:54:41 PM
It's ok, the outside world is overrated anyways.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on May 07, 2010, 03:57:22 PM
Yup. That's what I'll be telling myself.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Sigz on May 07, 2010, 03:59:39 PM
Well think about it, what's really outside? Birds? Fuck birds. Weather is shit most of the time, other people generally suck, etc. Inside is really where it's at.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on May 07, 2010, 04:00:29 PM
I've noticed my mood lift a fair bit in the last month or two. It's not that I'm actively ecstatic or anything, I just don't really feel as shitty as I often did a few months ago. And I'm fairly happy with that for what it is.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: AcidLameLTE on May 07, 2010, 04:04:40 PM
Well think about it, what's really outside? Birds? Fuck birds. Weather is shit most of the time, other people generally suck, etc. Inside is really where it's at.
What? I thought you hadn't moved to the UK yet...
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Sigz on May 07, 2010, 04:05:02 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on May 07, 2010, 04:07:29 PM
Well think about it, what's really outside? Birds? Fuck birds. Weather is shit most of the time, other people generally suck, etc. Inside is really where it's at.
What? I thought you hadn't moved to the UK yet...

Twas awesome weather today though 
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: AcidLameLTE on May 07, 2010, 04:08:10 PM
Very true. It was cold in the morning so I stuck on my long-sleeve DT t-shirt so I boiled to death in the office D:
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Sigz on May 07, 2010, 04:08:14 PM
WELL FINE REFUTE MY POINTS JEEZ
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on May 07, 2010, 04:10:20 PM
Just that one point.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Sigz on May 07, 2010, 04:13:53 PM
I have no other response besides :millahhhh

Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: AcidLameLTE on May 07, 2010, 04:14:42 PM
Ian, just come round to my house and we can play Pokemon all day. It'll be ace.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Sigz on May 07, 2010, 04:16:10 PM
 :metal
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on May 07, 2010, 04:27:21 PM
lolnerds  :P
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: AcidLameLTE on May 07, 2010, 04:28:38 PM
You're just jealous.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Darkes7 on May 07, 2010, 04:31:49 PM
I guess I belong in this thread rather often. Way too often for my taste, and I feel it's reflected in my forum posting a bit too much.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on May 07, 2010, 04:37:43 PM
You're just jealous.

Bah! Like I'd be jealous of a couple of Iains! Ok maybe a little jealous.

I guess I belong in this thread rather often. Way too often for my taste, and I feel it's reflected in my forum posting a bit too much.

 :sadpanda:
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: AcidLameLTE on May 07, 2010, 04:40:22 PM
You're just jealous.

Bah! Like I'd be jealous of a couple of Iains! Ok maybe a little jealous.
Couple? Who said Ian and I were a couple? Who ever told you this is lying...ahem...

I guess I belong in this thread rather often. Way too often for my taste, and I feel it's reflected in my forum posting a bit too much.
You can play Pokemon with us too :)
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Marvellous G on May 07, 2010, 04:40:31 PM
I am spending the last 20 minutes of my Friday night on DTF. No offence everyone, but that's not the 16 year old dream.  :-\
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Darkes7 on May 07, 2010, 04:44:53 PM
Pokemon? Yeah, and I'd get the "greatest n00b ever" sticker in the process. :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: AcidLameLTE on May 07, 2010, 04:46:02 PM
You already have that sticker so hurry up and get on a plane :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Fuzzboy on May 07, 2010, 04:47:46 PM
I dated a girl for about a year and we were extremely close, almost as if we were one.  Here thoughts were mine, and mine hers.  I felt I met my soul mate, the person who knows every single thing about me and I loved her like nothing else.  I stopped watching porn even.  When I thought about sex, it was always her, always!  My fantasies were always with her.  It was pathetic almost....

I would call her and just leave the phone there, her breathing alone soothed me.  She confided that she knew I was the one she will spend her life with.

Fast forward to earlier last year.  She and I had a fight because she wanted to take the next step, me proposing.  But we were only together for a year, I thought it was a bit reckless.  She then gave me the "if you truly love me you would" which was complete BS.  The fight escalated (our only real big fight ever, mind you).  She had to leave on a trip to Vegas for a week.  So I was home thinking about it, and I decided it was the right thing to do.  We were perfect for each other, we never fight big (except that one time) and we hate being apart, why prolong it?  So I dished out $6,000 and bought a gorgeous ring.  It had this Celtic design engraved on it with nice, but not bombastic, diamond in laid.  

I sent her a text "babe, im sorry for making you angry.  I promise everything will be ok when you return.  Have fun and your ass better not come back broke!"

A few days later I picked her up from the airport.  We took a cab a few blocks from her place and decided to walk the way.  She stopped me and said all of a sudden "i slept with someone".  I froze, my heart began to ache.  Tears instantly from my eyes.  I asked her why and she said "i dont know, but I need you to forgive me.  It was a mistake"

I pulled out the ring, showed her.  She gasped.  I threw it down the sewer and walked away.

I nearly took my life that night.   Good thing I had my friends around.

That was the worse night of my life and god I hope no one ever has to go through that.

So cheers to my fellow depressed.  Life does get better!  Bite the moment and keep looking forward to the bright days!

 :metal

Oh my god. I don't know what I would do in your situation. Something like that would break me so hard, I'd be a shell for months. Honestly, congratulations on being such a damn trooper.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on May 07, 2010, 04:52:25 PM
Couple? Who said Ian and I were a couple? Who ever told you this is lying...ahem...

 :rollin

I am spending the last 20 minutes of my Friday night on DTF. No offence everyone, but that's not the 16 year old dream.  :-\
Meh, I'd rather spend the night on DTF than go into town, get completely hammered and wake up in a hotel room with some random guy. My friends and I are growing apart.  :millahhhh
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Sigz on May 07, 2010, 05:17:39 PM
Couple? Who said Ian and I were a couple? Who ever told you this is lying...ahem...

HARRY YOU SAID YOU WOULDN'T TELL ANYONE

Meh, I'd rather spend the night on DTF than go into town, get completely hammered and wake up in a hotel room with some random guy. My friends and I are growing apart.  :millahhhh

Usually there's a much lower risk of contracting an STD from DTF when compared to a night of drunken partying.

Usually.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on May 07, 2010, 05:18:54 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: AcidLameLTE on May 07, 2010, 05:22:54 PM
Couple? Who said Ian and I were a couple? Who ever told you this is lying...ahem...

HARRY YOU SAID YOU WOULDN'T TELL ANYONE

Meh, I'd rather spend the night on DTF than go into town, get completely hammered and wake up in a hotel room with some random guy. My friends and I are growing apart.  :millahhhh

Usually there's a much lower risk of contracting an STD from DTF when compared to a night of drunken partying.

Usually.
Everything Sigz said in this post is connected. Everything.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Darkes7 on May 07, 2010, 05:37:01 PM
I'm becoming afraid of the direction this thread is going in.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: AcidLameLTE on May 07, 2010, 05:40:06 PM
Darkes, you can pull me under (the bed sheets) any day.

I'm not afraid.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Darkes7 on May 07, 2010, 05:47:30 PM
You can take your time waiting, I'd rather be in my own bed and wait for sleep. Sorry.

:neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: AcidLameLTE on May 07, 2010, 05:52:29 PM
Right that's it, I'm giving up homosexuality on DTF.

And on that note, I'm going to sleep.

Good night Darkes, you hot piece of ass.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Sigz on May 07, 2010, 05:53:22 PM
 :rollin
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on May 07, 2010, 05:58:18 PM
 :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Darkes7 on May 07, 2010, 06:24:29 PM
WTF :rollin
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on May 07, 2010, 06:33:58 PM
Stop being so happy! This is a god damn depressed thread! All of your pets are dead!
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Darkes7 on May 07, 2010, 06:52:43 PM
I guess this means the thread is sort of bipolar...
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Marvellous G on May 08, 2010, 03:59:30 PM
I've got a lot of pseudo-intellectual shit going on in my head atm. Maybe it's just because exam stress is finally getting to me, maybe it's just because I watched Lost In Translation and that got even more quasi-philosophical thoughts going. I don't think this is normal, but then I can't be the only 16 year old who listens to Tool and thinks I'm the only one who 'gets' them, surely? Hopefully. I think I just need to start a blog or something, get my thoughts out of my pretentious head.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Sigz on May 08, 2010, 04:00:04 PM
I can't be the only 16 year old who listens to Tool and thinks I'm the only one who 'gets' them, surely? Hopefully.

You're not.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Marvellous G on May 08, 2010, 04:07:28 PM
I can't be the only 16 year old who listens to Tool and thinks I'm the only one who 'gets' them, surely? Hopefully.

You're not.

But I am this pretentious Tool-listening stereotype, and I can objectively see that and laugh at it completely, but I'm still really pretentious. Maybe the fact I can convince myself I'm doing it ironically (which I'm not a lot of the time) just makes me more pretentious? Or maybe I'm just overthinking EVERYTHING.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Sigz on May 08, 2010, 04:20:14 PM
I think you're really overthinking things here.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on May 08, 2010, 09:52:52 PM
Stop being so pretentious then. Or.... keep being that way and start a Pain of Salvation tribute band.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Zook on May 08, 2010, 10:13:07 PM
This year has betrayed me. Fuck life.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on May 08, 2010, 10:14:32 PM
That's right, fuck life. Make it your bitch.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Marvellous G on May 09, 2010, 06:48:38 AM
Stop being so pretentious then. Or.... keep being that way and start a Pain of Salvation tribute band.

Gonna have to go for option B here.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: icysk8r on May 09, 2010, 04:04:49 PM
I've been kind of on a see-saw lately between happiness and depression, swinging into one or the other randomly, almost rhythmically.
Not sure if that's better than being full-blown depressed or not.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on May 09, 2010, 11:22:06 PM
These last few months have been the most depressing and confusing months of my life.



 Yeah, it has to do with that stupid breakup. I guess what hurts me and all that I stand for so much is that I gave so much in that relationship and never got anything. I never expected anything, but looking back I now realize how badly I was treated.

She was my first girlfriend, though I had experiences with young, stupid love before her. I was very mature about our relationship the whole time though. I knew it would not last, as most relationships at our age do not. We never even really called each other or spoke outside of school much. I think we went on five dates, total. We saw each other in school every day and had a lot of classes together though, so that was enough for me. I never even talked about any sort of long term future with her, and neither did she. She was a very interesting person though, and I never exactly fully counted out the possibility of a long term relationship. She never really showed much physical affection (no, she never put out. but with how her parents were and stuff I was lucky to be able to take her to prom. it may have been she just did not want to, I don't know anymore.) but the personal connection we had was more than enough.

But then, after about a year together, for some reason we started to grow even closer together than ever. She began to show affection to me word-wise more than she had before. I fell deeper in love with her than I ever even thought I would. My god, I wanted to touch her so much. I don't know how to explain it, but it's like some other, deeper relationship started between us. I began to really love her.

The last week of high school comes around and we are closer than ever. Because we still do not see each other outside of school, there is still some strange reservedness between us, though. I don't know how to explain it, but it doesn't really affect us when we're together. There are these stupid, cute little quizzes that the school does as a fundraiser that show you your matches with the students and stuff. My results come out as some girl who actually had a crush on me a long time before, and my girlfriend's came out as me. She smiled so big that it made me smile. We get our yearbooks that same week and sign each other's. I sign something funny with inside jokes, nothing seriously mushy. But then I get hers and she tells me to read it after school. Here it is.

"[sonatafanica],

What a year it has been! I can't believe we're finally graduating. I'm so glad we're still an item. We so should have been in the Couples section of this yearbook. What a ripoff! I'm not very good at writing in yearbooks so this is always a challenge,. But you already know I love you very much so I don't have to write it a bunch of times (you better know!!!) What good times we have had together, I will always cherish these moments. I don't know what else to say but that I love yooouuu!

*big heart* [her name]"



Gentlemen, I rarely ever feel good about myself. Reading that made me feel better than I have ever felt in my whole life. It was serious now.

Then a few weeks later my birthday rolls around. She gets so excited to meet my extended family and hang out with me. We have a great time and her family really loves me.

Then we go with only occasional phone conversations for a few months. God, that killed me. What was she doing/ We were in love for fuck's sake! But I understood, as she used to be the most shy, lonely person on earth before me.

Then we have our last date. It goes well. I make her laugh a lot and I'm so glad to see her for the first time in months. We go to dinner, bowl, and then she invites me to her house to play some Halo 3. She has an XBox and I don't.  :lol We have a great time playing that and she sends me on my way. I had been so nervous there, waiting for a chance or sign to make some sort of move psychically with her. I kissed her goodbye, our last kiss.

She calls me in February to talk about "us". You can imagine what happened. I ended up telling her that I would not try to change her mind, but that there were things she needed to know. I told her everything about how I felt. Everything. But I again reminded her that I was not trying to change her mind, just telling her everything. She cried and said she had a lot to think about.

She texted me a few weeks later. Here's the text.

"There is no acceptance you should give to my apology. I've been a rude bitch to you and I'm sorry. I felt so bad that I put you in that position last time but I just don't think right now is a good time for me to be in a relationship. I'll understand if you never want to see me again....but I hope it won't be that way."

I texted back that I was not angry, and i thanked her for letting me down gently.



But I will never fucking talk to her again. How can you just do that, at the peak of a relationship? What happened? I know it's not another guy, she wouldn't do that. She doesn't even leave her house most of the time. She lives fifteen miles away. She goes to a nearby community college. What is preventing her from being in a relationship. It's just insulting on so many levels. I just...I don't know.


To those of you who read all this....I'm sorry.
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Post by: Silver Tears on May 10, 2010, 06:35:51 AM
Sorry man, that sounds pretty rough  :sadpanda:
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Post by: Portrucci on May 10, 2010, 06:41:14 AM
So she never even told you why? That's a real mindfuck
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Post by: SPNKr on May 10, 2010, 11:32:45 PM
So she never even told you why? That's a real mindfuck
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Post by: sonatafanica on May 10, 2010, 11:34:08 PM
Nope. And yeah, my mind is kinda fucked.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: blackngold29 on May 13, 2010, 10:43:04 PM
So I got my grades today and got my first C of college. It was in a Physics class that had a horrible teacher. My major is communications and I was editor of the newspaper, which will gave me WAAAY more experience and knowledge in the field I’ll be in (obviously newspapers’ll be dead at some point, but the writing is important) than Physics ever will.

Anyway, my mom gets all pissed off that I went from the “President’s List to a C” in a tone as if I’m a failure at life. I have a fucking 3.82 GPA. I got one C and 2 Bs (the C and one of the Bs were from the same teacher) in five semesters of college and she’s pissed off at me.

Now, I know that I didn’t spend every waking moment studying the concepts of Physics and how hypothetical wooden blocks react to gravity when going down a frictionless ramp (the class’s lack of any connection to real life pissed me off as well), I’ll admit that. Maybe I’m in denial, but I don’t think I could have gotten a B.

My mom says I need to stop blaming the teacher, that I need to “spend less time on Twitter” (like she knows what she’s talking about) and that I can’t participate in the newspaper next semester (I’m going to a new school, so not sure how that would’ve worked out anyway). I don’t really care about the newspaper, but I’m going to keep writing regardless.

I’m angrier that I didn’t learn one thing about Physics than getting a C. Not that I’m not mad about the grade, but I know that a C in a subject that I’ll never use again doesn’t mean all that much in life.

One of my teachers, a good one who I know really well, asked me a few weeks ago if my parents were proud. I said yes, but it’s not feeling like it today.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Scrub206 on May 15, 2010, 04:25:38 PM
ugh. mind aswell post..

so my girlfriend and i of more then 2 and a half years just broke up.. i actually ended it.. i thought i did the right thing tho. i mean i lost the feelings for her.. i thought it was just that temporary thing that comes back? like theres a week were your like i dont want anyhting to do with you. nope. 2 months later. here i am still. so i ended it.

i moved out to oklahoma from new jersey for this broad. left everything that i loved and was close to me. only to find out that 6 months down here id have nothing around me that i loved..

i didnt want to drag her around putting on this mask, pretending i liked her, didnt want to keep getting her hopes up more..

even tho i ended it, and did it because i thought it was right. i feel terrible, but somewhat relieved.

now comes the part of saving up and moving back home...
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: MetalManiac666 on May 15, 2010, 05:05:52 PM
So I got my grades today and got my first C of college. It was in a Physics class that had a horrible teacher. My major is communications and I was editor of the newspaper, which will gave me WAAAY more experience and knowledge in the field I’ll be in (obviously newspapers’ll be dead at some point, but the writing is important) than Physics ever will.

Anyway, my mom gets all pissed off that I went from the “President’s List to a C” in a tone as if I’m a failure at life. I have a fucking 3.82 GPA. I got one C and 2 Bs (the C and one of the Bs were from the same teacher) in five semesters of college and she’s pissed off at me.

Now, I know that I didn’t spend every waking moment studying the concepts of Physics and how hypothetical wooden blocks react to gravity when going down a frictionless ramp (the class’s lack of any connection to real life pissed me off as well), I’ll admit that. Maybe I’m in denial, but I don’t think I could have gotten a B.

My mom says I need to stop blaming the teacher, that I need to “spend less time on Twitter” (like she knows what she’s talking about) and that I can’t participate in the newspaper next semester (I’m going to a new school, so not sure how that would’ve worked out anyway). I don’t really care about the newspaper, but I’m going to keep writing regardless.

I’m angrier that I didn’t learn one thing about Physics than getting a C. Not that I’m not mad about the grade, but I know that a C in a subject that I’ll never use again doesn’t mean all that much in life.

One of my teachers, a good one who I know really well, asked me a few weeks ago if my parents were proud. I said yes, but it’s not feeling like it today.

Wow, I'm going through a similar thing right now...
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: blackngold29 on May 15, 2010, 10:52:25 PM
ugh. mind aswell post..

so my girlfriend and i of more then 2 and a half years just broke up.. i actually ended it.. i thought i did the right thing tho. i mean i lost the feelings for her.. i thought it was just that temporary thing that comes back? like theres a week were your like i dont want anyhting to do with you. nope. 2 months later. here i am still. so i ended it.

i moved out to oklahoma from new jersey for this broad. left everything that i loved and was close to me. only to find out that 6 months down here id have nothing around me that i loved..

i didnt want to drag her around putting on this mask, pretending i liked her, didnt want to keep getting her hopes up more..

even tho i ended it, and did it because i thought it was right. i feel terrible, but somewhat relieved.

now comes the part of saving up and moving back home...
Sounds like you'll be better off in the long run. Good thing you took some time and didn't like marry her right away. Would've been a lot worse to get out of.
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Post by: AcidLameLTE on May 18, 2010, 10:45:14 AM
Bad day is bad.
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Post by: ReaperKK on May 18, 2010, 10:57:52 AM
I dated a girl for about a year and we were extremely close, almost as if we were one.  Here thoughts were mine, and mine hers.  I felt I met my soul mate, the person who knows every single thing about me and I loved her like nothing else.  I stopped watching porn even.  When I thought about sex, it was always her, always!  My fantasies were always with her.  It was pathetic almost....

I would call her and just leave the phone there, her breathing alone soothed me.  She confided that she knew I was the one she will spend her life with.

Fast forward to earlier last year.  She and I had a fight because she wanted to take the next step, me proposing.  But we were only together for a year, I thought it was a bit reckless.  She then gave me the "if you truly love me you would" which was complete BS.  The fight escalated (our only real big fight ever, mind you).  She had to leave on a trip to Vegas for a week.  So I was home thinking about it, and I decided it was the right thing to do.  We were perfect for each other, we never fight big (except that one time) and we hate being apart, why prolong it?  So I dished out $6,000 and bought a gorgeous ring.  It had this Celtic design engraved on it with nice, but not bombastic, diamond in laid. 

I sent her a text "babe, im sorry for making you angry.  I promise everything will be ok when you return.  Have fun and your ass better not come back broke!"

A few days later I picked her up from the airport.  We took a cab a few blocks from her place and decided to walk the way.  She stopped me and said all of a sudden "i slept with someone".  I froze, my heart began to ache.  Tears instantly from my eyes.  I asked her why and she said "i dont know, but I need you to forgive me.  It was a mistake"

I pulled out the ring, showed her.  She gasped.  I threw it down the sewer and walked away.

I nearly took my life that night.   Good thing I had my friends around.

That was the worse night of my life and god I hope no one ever has to go through that.

So cheers to my fellow depressed.  Life does get better!  Bite the moment and keep looking forward to the bright days!

 :metal

Wow, I can relate, I bought the ring, although I never proposed.

Time is really the enemy right now but it doesn't have to be. Stay busy, stay focused and personally I'd keep her out of my life. It's what I did.

You'll get into another relationship, but don't let this past one taint your views.

Personally May has been a better month for me but I'm just going through a very indecisive time in my life right now and sadly I don't have anyone in real life that can relate, kinda sucks. Just gotta keep going
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dublagent66 on May 18, 2010, 11:33:11 AM
Sex about twice a week would be the cure for me.  Everything else in my life is pretty good.  The one thing I'm missing seems to be the hardest to get.  What does a guy have to do these days to get a little lovin'?   :(
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on May 18, 2010, 11:44:39 AM
Sex about twice a week would be the cure for me.  Everything else in my life is pretty good.  The one thing I'm missing seems to be the hardest to get.  What does a guy have to do these days to get a little lovin'?   :(

Start trying to pick up some ladies, if all else fails then you're right where you are now. I had some casual sex going with a girl last semester.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dublagent66 on May 18, 2010, 11:51:44 AM
Sex about twice a week would be the cure for me.  Everything else in my life is pretty good.  The one thing I'm missing seems to be the hardest to get.  What does a guy have to do these days to get a little lovin'?   :(

Start trying to pick up some ladies, if all else fails then you're right where you are now. I had some casual sex going with a girl last semester.

That's what's so depressing.  I'm not a pick up artist.  I might need a personality transplant first.   :|
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on May 18, 2010, 12:57:26 PM
I'm the same way but you have to get out there and be yourself and make some conversation. You'll only get better at talking to girl.
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Post by: icysk8r on May 18, 2010, 04:59:38 PM
Hey guys.
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Post by: bout to crash on May 18, 2010, 08:11:09 PM
I'm more angry than depressed right now. One of those bittersweet days... but I am angry because I have felt consistently disrespected by my mother, who does not take me seriously when I ask her to. Everything just gets brushed away as no big deal, and she is very careless. When I ask her to respect my wishes and do something for me the way I want it, she won't.

Today's example: I asked her to send my Six Feet Under box set to Colorado because I wanted to share some of it with my class (plus I just wanted it because I love the show). This is the expensive gift set that comes in a very cool box with turf on top (looks like grass and dirt- https://www.amazon.com/Six-Feet-Under-Complete-Gift/dp/B000HEVZBW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1274234303&sr=8-2)... they don't make it anymore, so I asked her to PLEASE package it carefully and put it in a box/make sure it was padded on all sides and didn't move around. I mean, it's a fucking cardboard box; it's not invincible. I gave her careful instructions knowing how she usually is, she said okay, and I received it today wrapped in paper and tape, no box or any kind of padding. The paper was ripped open and the box is seriously fucked up. The front is ripped off and it's falling apart on all sides. Several of the discs were loose and the plastic was broken so they're not secure anymore.

It's not about the damn box. Yes, I am pissed about that. It's very cool, it was fucking expensive and it means a lot to me. It's my favorite damn show and one of the only ones I've ever followed. But fuck that, it won't look the same but it can be fixed. The problem is the complete lack of respect for what I asked and a disregard for my feelings. I was very clear about it; I even told her I would pay for shipping, etc. (she said not to worry about it, now I understand why)... but she still just did what she wanted, not thinking about how it was important to me or what might happen to it.

She has been doing things like this, big and small, for as long as I can remember. The most glaring example is the situation with my abusive bullying fucking brother that she seems to think is not as serious as I do. Rather than hold him accountable for what he does, she just gets mad for a few minutes and then acts like nothing happened and lets him do the same shit over and over again with no consequences. Despite all he's done, the fucking loser is still living in her house at 29 and leeching off of her because he's too mentally unstable to keep a job or anything of that nature. Nothing will ever change without him going into residential treatment or something of that nature, but she has no backbone, he's her son and she can't do it.

Last week when I asked her to send me this DVD set, she said "I can't get to the post office until Saturday, but I'm sure Joe will do it if you ask him." Meanwhile, she damn well knows he is blocked from all of my email addresses for harassing me and threatening me (this only happened a few weeks ago)! She wants me to ask him a favor? As if there's not enough of a power imbalance there? I got upset and told her it was unfair to ask me to do that, and she said "Ok, you didn't need to have a hissy fit lol"

Wtf?? Every time I try to open up and tell her how I feel, I get brushed off (and apparently laughed at), so what's the fucking point? I had planned on sending her a letter about the whole situation to try and help her understand why it affects me so much, but what the fuck is the point? It just makes me nauseous to be brushed aside like this by my own mother. Makes me remember why I'm fucking 1800 miles away, but right now that doesn't help.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on May 18, 2010, 09:12:45 PM
That is some rough stuff, girl.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on May 18, 2010, 09:59:43 PM
Yep  :|
I'm not as upset as I was before (yay for venting) but it's so fucking frustrating... and it's true, I know she loves me but  I feel like when it comes to certain things she really doesn't give a shit and that really hurts.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on May 18, 2010, 10:34:43 PM
Yep  :|
I'm not as upset as I was before (yay for venting) but it's so fucking frustrating... and it's true, I know she loves me but  I feel like when it comes to certain things she really doesn't give a shit and that really hurts.

And no matter how much you want to walk away and wash your hands, you're not going to, it's just not possible.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on May 19, 2010, 08:35:22 AM
I know, that's what makes it so frustrating. You can't pick and choose the good and bad parts of your relationships or peoples' personalities... but you can choose how close you stay to them and how much of a part of your life they are... which is why I completely ignore my brother. I don't want to ignore my mother, but I guess there are just things I can't talk to her about. Every relationship is like that, but considering what those things are in this case it really hurts. I want to be able to tell her how something affects me and feel heard, but I guess it's not going to happen. One thing I can do is NOT pass that on, because judging by how my grandparents were it was probably similar for her.

I gave myself a night to chill out before I contacted her about the DVD thing, but was still angry this morning when I sent her a text basically saying I expect to be reimbursed if Tony can't fix it and I can't believe she did that when I asked her to make sure it was well-protected. I'll probably get a one word answer and change of subject , totally minimizing the whole thing :\
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on May 19, 2010, 09:39:47 AM
Sorry to hear that but it's so true what you said about how to much you let people be a part of your life. The whole disrespect thing sounded very similar to something my dad and I went through a few years back, since that moment I cut him completely out of my life and while the situation sucks, I couldn't be happier because I'm not having to deal with him.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on May 19, 2010, 10:48:48 AM
Yeah, I have definitely seen situations like that when it works out for the better. For the most part my mother and I have a good relationship but this is a serious issue, especially when it comes to my brother. She just can't set boundaries with him, even if everyone (especially me) suffers from it. He needs to be cut off until he gets serious help, which is why I blocked him from email, etc. But in the summer I have to go back to NJ and will inevitably have to deal with him in some way even if I don't stay at that house  :|

Anyway, my mother responded to me asking what happened because she thought the box was okay. I told her it was packaged terribly and what happened to it. She apologized, at least. I asked her to take me seriously the next time  ask her to do something like that, but if I ever need anything fragile/valuable again I will most likely beg Tony to pick it up and send it for me (he is extra cautious about that stuff but lives kinda far from my mom) or just wait until I go back there to get it. Ahhh. I hate having two "homes" and having to go back and forth.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on May 20, 2010, 06:07:50 AM
You're in school in Colorado right? If you're going to be there for some time, maybe consider moving as much as you can.

Hell when I moved 2 hours away I moved everything so I didn't have to be back except for the holidays maybe.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on May 20, 2010, 08:56:11 AM
Yeah, well my program is only another year and I don't have any set plans yet... so it would kind of suck to move everything and then decide to come back east, so I'll probably wait and see what happens when I graduate (if I get a job here, etc). I have too much crap  :(
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on May 20, 2010, 09:01:27 AM
Hey guys.

Hey bro, what's up?
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: AwakeFromOctavarium on May 20, 2010, 09:26:23 AM
Reading this thread makes me depressed.

I seem to have a case opposite of Boba's. My parents fully respect me. They treat me really well, and give me all the freedom and joy I can experience at my age. They are really, super cool. Probably the only people on earth that I truly respect.

But all the freedom I earn from them keeps bothering me greatly. Our family is not rich, maybe a middle class family. But my parents managed to send me abroad to study. It's not an affordable thing of course, but they worked their asses off, and still working really hard, to pay the expenses. For the last few years, I was completely ignorant of their efforts, mainly because I was young. I spent quite a lot of money. Of course there were times when I got worried of my excessive spendings, and when I inquired my parents about it, all they said was that it was alright, and they had enough money to support me until I graduate from college. They were lying.

The pressure. God, the pressure. They are too good to me, too good for me to bear. I always wish the time would fly away until I could make my own livings, and start repaying what my parents have done for me. I'll probably never fully repay what they have done.

Ugh I think I'm gonna stop. Thinking about them is just painful.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Marvellous G on May 20, 2010, 11:06:16 AM
AwakeFromOctavarium, it sounds like your parents are the kind of people that would want you to enjoy what they had done for you instead of worry about repayment. I know that's the obvious consolation answer, but you really shouldn't feel bad about having parents that care for you so much. Sure you can cut down on spending a bit, and while it's none of my business it might be an idea to do so as it seems like it would make you feel better, but you shouldn't squander this opportunity by worrying about what it's costing your parents. Basically, don't feel so bad, it's not like you're blowing it on drugs or something, you're living abroad which is a great, courageous move!

On my own slightly less depressing note, GCSEs begin tomorrow. Woop.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on May 20, 2010, 11:57:28 AM
What he said... but your situation is not the opposite of mine, to be fair to my mother. My parents have been very supportive of most of what I do, financially and emotionally... but this is one area where my mother seriously lacks.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on May 24, 2010, 09:21:04 PM
I just don't see why I can't get over this break up. It happened months and months ago and I just can't do it. I'm sad and crying all the time. I don't get it.


Trust me, I got over my first girlfriend really quickly when she broke up with me. Because I took a look at it and realized it was just stupid high school love. But this....I really cared a lot about this girl. I am just sick of being depressed and I'm just wondering when something good will happen to at least take my mind off of it. I wish I at least was given a reason as to why she did this. I can't stand feeling like this anymore, something has to happen soon. I can't take it I can't take it I can't take it
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Slain on May 25, 2010, 05:03:40 PM
This girl and I went out for 2 years, we kind of rushed into things, and both got to the point where we really lost our own selves as individuals and we broke up. A side note would be that she has depression/ocd/anxiety disorder (obviously important for what comes next) I realized that I really did love her, and want to be with her, and we started dating again around 2 years (ish) after we broke up. We both thought we'd grown as people, and that we'd become more of "individuals" than we were before.

Things were going well, and a turn for the worse came. Her medication stopped working, and her depression and anxiety started to get really bad. She started getting angry at everyone, getting distant, acting strange around me (she usually acts normal/like herself around me), and eventually attempted to commit suicide. And there's a misconception that people try to do it because they want attention, this is NOT one of those cases. She thinks in her head that in some way she'd be doing people a favor, which is completely untrue. She was sent to a Psychiatric ward for a week or two, and I visited every day for as long as they'd allow. In a way we grew closer than ever, I stayed over at her house when her family wasn't there to be with her, anytime she needed it...

But over the past few weeks she hasn't been herself. She hasn't been enjoying anything, and I can't tell you how difficult it is to talk to someone when they literally believe they'll leave nothing important behind. And when they literally see no reason to live anymore, and are emotionless about it. She went from saying how much she loved me and appreciated me, to not even caring what I did, or about me at all. I'm afraid I'll most likely become a "trigger" to her depression, and eventually bringing me up at all will bring her back to a bad feeling (Since I've been someone that became "associated" with it, intentional or not) so I've pretty much screwed myself over.

 She broke up with me a few days ago, saying it's not a good time, and she doesn't want anyone. There's nothing I can do except leave her alone, as difficult as that is. I just might not be able to get close to her again. Well, thanks for reading this horribly depressing post, we aren't talking anymore (for her sake, not mine) and I'm not in too good of a mood.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: EPICVIEW on May 26, 2010, 02:20:47 PM
cheer up everyone!!
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on May 26, 2010, 02:23:22 PM
no i'm sad leave me alone i hate you
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: tri.ad on May 26, 2010, 02:25:46 PM
cheer up everyone!!


 :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Sigz on May 26, 2010, 02:27:37 PM
Hey, he's trying to be nice, cut him some slack.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on May 26, 2010, 02:28:32 PM
i hate slack too

if you get too much slack you can hang yourself
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: EPICVIEW on May 26, 2010, 02:30:29 PM

Ok..now im sad too..: (
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: AcidLameLTE on May 26, 2010, 02:31:52 PM
You bullies.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: tri.ad on May 26, 2010, 02:35:54 PM
Hey, he's trying to be nice, cut him some slack.

Yeah, because telling people who posted in this thread and partially are seriously depressed to cheer up, while obviously not having read this thread, is totally nice, sensible and helpful. Really, Sigz? Come on.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Sigz on May 26, 2010, 02:38:13 PM
I didn't say it was the smartest or most tactful thing to say, but it certainly wasn't malicious.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: EPICVIEW on May 26, 2010, 02:49:10 PM
please accept my apology Tri.ad..I meant no harm.'
I was just trying to say "look on the bright side..
stay positive".
and thank you Sigz!
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: tri.ad on May 26, 2010, 03:40:46 PM
Alright, dude, listen. Sigz might be right about your advice not being malicious, but look at it from a (seriously) depressed person's point of view who might have gotten this kind of advice over and over again (without these words being helpful, of course). Due to the lack of understanding, of willingness to help and of empathy towards the situation (and advice like that is usually driven by it), a depressed person would see some kind of malice in statements like this, even if it wasn't intentional.

If you read this thread, you will come across situations that aren't just the usual "temporary downs" and "angst-filled points of view", situations that can't be helped with a simple "Cheer up" or a "Stay positive". And that is were your advice becomes simply unrealistic and comes across as a generic "all-purpose remedy", which it definitely isn't. Your intentions might have been genuine, but the desired effect will most definitely not occur.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on May 26, 2010, 10:50:52 PM
You're kind of being a dick to the guy. He just wished us well.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on May 26, 2010, 11:20:37 PM
Well, I understand both sides here... tri.ad made some important points, as people who are genuinely depressed are often told to just cheer up and this can make things worse on many levels. EPIC probably didn't realize this and shouldn't be attacked for what he said, but I don't see a problem with making him aware of why what he said might offend some people. Only way to prevent it from happening again is to educate him.
Could the response have been handled a little more tactfully? Maybe, but it came from a genuine and understandable place... and I wouldn't say dick level  :P

/social worker
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on May 26, 2010, 11:40:14 PM
Alright, dude, listen. Sigz might be right about your advice not being malicious, but look at it from a (seriously) depressed person's point of view who might have gotten this kind of advice over and over again (without these words being helpful, of course). Due to the lack of understanding, of willingness to help and of empathy towards the situation (and advice like that is usually driven by it), a depressed person would see some kind of malice in statements like this, even if it wasn't intentional.

If you read this thread, you will come across situations that aren't just the usual "temporary downs" and "angst-filled points of view", situations that can't be helped with a simple "Cheer up" or a "Stay positive". And that is were your advice becomes simply unrealistic and comes across as a generic "all-purpose remedy", which it definitely isn't. Your intentions might have been genuine, but the desired effect will most definitely not occur.

OK, you're right, but dude, lately you've been uptight. What's been going on?
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: AcidLameLTE on May 26, 2010, 11:58:08 PM
It's probably because of the Count of Tuscany's brother. He's always making people uptight. No accident.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on May 27, 2010, 12:11:51 AM
 :lol I walked right into that one. Down the cellar stairs. I disappear.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on May 27, 2010, 12:32:08 AM
Crap, I don't remember how to do  :facepalm:+ :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: AcidLameLTE on May 27, 2010, 12:32:52 AM
:lolpalm:
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on May 27, 2010, 09:12:50 AM
:lolpalm:

THANK YOU
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on May 31, 2010, 11:47:47 PM
While at my friend's house a girl we knew from high school paid a visit. She asked about my ex and I told her in as few words as possible that we weren't together anymore. She was absolutely appalled, because she had been childhood friends with her and more distant as the years went on since the first grade, but they were still always friends.

I do not know whether to take comfort in her words or not, but she said, "Sonata, I've known her almost my whole life, and I know for a fact that you're the best thing that happened to her."


Gah I wish I could sleep this off. I sound like a broken record just "blah blah my breakup" and I assure you it would SO be over with if I thought it was just a stupid high schooler relationship.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: AwakeFromOctavarium on June 06, 2010, 05:26:48 AM
First off, I live in Asia. I refuse to tell which country, though.

This have been bugging me recently. I go to this private high school whose tuition fee is one of the highest in the country. I've got this friend who's not financially well off. But his parents worked really hard to send him to the school. He is one of my few best friends, someone I actually trust (not to the fullest, btw). We are senior highschool students, btw.

So yeah, the school started this month and strangely, he did not show up. Well my class weren't really worried at first, because not many students show up on the first day. But then we realized his name was not on the classlist. That could mean only one thing; he did not enroll. We started contacting him, asking him why he did not enroll and stuff. And as expected, he didn't have the money to pay the tuition.

We also learned that he had a debt of about 4000 US Dollars to the school. It was actually accumulated through out his school life, and the school finally got irritated and they refused to admit him to the senior year. Pretty understandable, actually, but the dude's got dreams too.

Our class is trying to pay the debt for him, which I doubt will work out. I'm actually on the side of "Don't help the helpless poor", but hell, when it comes to friendship, the situation's entirely different. Hope he can graduate with us.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: AcidLameLTE on June 06, 2010, 05:37:09 AM
...that's amazing that you guys are doing that for him. I hope everything works out :)
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: blackngold29 on June 06, 2010, 10:01:53 AM
...that's amazing that you guys are doing that for him. I hope everything works out :)
Agreed, your actions are something to be very un-depressed about.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on June 12, 2010, 07:41:02 PM
I am oh so depressed right now. *lays down on cold, hard floor*

lolz
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on June 12, 2010, 07:46:57 PM
It's alright man, I'll join, I'm feeling quite shitty and I"m drowning my sorrows in beer
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on June 12, 2010, 07:48:16 PM
Isn't it funny? We find our comforts and refuges in different things, but we all hurt.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on June 12, 2010, 07:57:38 PM
Yea, it's very true, usually I write but I've had such a long day I'm just on the couch watching Pulp Fiction and drinking.

What ales you my friend?
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: icysk8r on June 13, 2010, 02:18:59 AM
way way way in here. Have been in here. Forever. Getting deeper in here though. gah.  What makes life suck so much?  And I'm tired of these assholes saying "You can be hapy if you choose too"  blah blah fucking blah.  Maybe I could be?  But man, shit has happened.  Shit has happened that has changed me.  I know it. My friends know it. Everyone knows it.  Not everyone knows what changed me because I don't tell everyone what changed me.  All I know is that I went from a semi-happy kid with confidence who wnated to become a drummer, to a depressed slob who has no hope for the future.  One who every day wishes he could bring himself to end it all.  One who goes to therapy and has to watch what he says because he knows he's a few steps away from getting commited.  One who speaks in the third person (wait, lol) 
Needless to say I'm fucked up.

And I HATE when people say "You're only 15, what could you have gone through.  A broken heart? Lost girlfriend? Unrequited love?" No, assholes.  I've felt more pain than you'v e probably felt your whole life. (This isn't talking to you guys, this is adressed to those who belittle every fucking problem I have)

No this wasn't for attention, I'm just in a mood to write it all out. None of my friends are online.  I needed to vent.  Sorry if this is all bothering you or you think I'm trying to get attention.  You didn't have to read it.


tl/dr: I'm fucked up.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Sintheros on June 13, 2010, 02:36:21 AM
Too late, I read it. And who's to say you're fucked up? Maybe all the people who belittle you are and you're perfectly normal. Because normal's entirely relative. There are probably thousands of people in the world who feel just like you do with similar circumstances but just believe they're alone because they think their problem is unique enough that it's infeasible that there's someone else suffering the same way you are. I'm speaking from experience, mind you.

EDIT: And I have the solution to said problem yet I lack the spine to do it.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: icysk8r on June 13, 2010, 02:57:05 AM
I just don't get why everything has to happen in such a short ammount of time.  Literally if you would be talking to me a year ago, I would be (maybe not the happiest, but...) a lot happier than now.  I don't see light of it getting any better, either.  I feel like more shit is going to happen to make me depressed. More is gonna happen that's just gonna knock me down. I know the saying when youget knocked down you get right back up but I'm sick of constantly getting back up.  how long can someone take a beating from life before they decide to give up>?  I know I'm on the brink(coheed reference) of giving it all up.  For some reason there is so me part of me that is clinging to something.  I don't know what I'm clicnging to. I have nothing left.  (Also, I hate when people tell me I have too much to be depressed becase my parents are relatively financially stable.  That doesn't mean jack-shit to me.)
I gues maybe I'm clinging to the last tiny shred of hope that I can make a difference in this world.

I think if I was christian I'd be dead right now.  That's another reason I don't off myself.  I don't believe there's anything after this.
Like I don't want to live with all of this pain anymore, but I don't want to die either.  Limbo party!
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Sintheros on June 13, 2010, 03:01:27 AM
If I had one goal in life, it'd be to have someone remember me when I'm gone. Some legacy. Narcissistic, I know, but I don't want everything to be for nothing in the long run. Suicide gets you no legacy past your close relatives and a small mention in the newspaper.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: icysk8r on June 13, 2010, 03:16:02 AM
If I had one goal in life, it'd be to have someone remember me when I'm gone. Some legacy. Narcissistic, I know, but I don't want everything to be for nothing in the long run. Suicide gets you no legacy past your close relatives and a small mention in the newspaper.
Yeah, but at least there's no more pain. I try so hard not to feel anything anymore that it keeps escalating to bigger and bigger things to numb myself.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Sintheros on June 13, 2010, 03:19:56 AM
Except you wouldn't be around to welcome the lack of pain, so what's the point? You're much better off waiting for things to look up again, which they probably will given either time or effort depending on the situation. Nothing's permanent really except death, so why miss the opportunity to turn things around?
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: AwakeFromOctavarium on June 13, 2010, 03:22:22 AM
My goal as a teenager is to be as happy as possible, so maybe in 50 years when I look back and say to myself, "Did I live a happy life?" I'll be able to reply, "Yes. A lot of shit happened in my life, but I ultimately had a happier life than most people out there."

Whenever I experience depression, my cure is a change of thought. I say to myself, "This is just temporary. My life isn't shit. Remember the good times. I had more happy times than times like this." Because I know, I know that when I'm out of depression, my life will be full of joy again and I won't remember much about my bad times.

I feel weird while typing this. I am a pessimist when I'm in my mood, and an optimist when I feel shitty.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: icysk8r on June 13, 2010, 03:27:43 AM
My goal as a teenager is to be as happy as possible, so maybe in 50 years when I look back and say to myself, "Did I live a happy life?" I'll be able to reply, "Yes. A lot of shit happened in my life, but I ultimately had a happier life than most people out there."

Whenever I experience depression, my cure is a change of thought. I say to myself, "This is just temporary. My life isn't shit. Remember the good times. I had more happy times than times like this." Because I know, I know that when I'm out of depression, my life will be full of joy again and I won't remember much about my bad times.

I feel weird while typing this. I am a pessimist when I'm in my mood, and an optimist when I feel shitty.
The problem with me is that I can't look back at happy thoughts and be happy and optimistic.  I look back at happy thoughts longing to re-experience them. Longing for things to be the way they used to be.  the thought that I will never be the same as I was back then depresses me.  I think of how naive I used to be.  How stupidly happy I was.  Now although I might have a little more life-experience, what was the cost?  My happiness.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Sintheros on June 13, 2010, 03:31:44 AM
I'd love for blissful ignorance like back when I was younger and didn't have to worry about the things I have no choice but to worry about now. I'm sure a lot of people do. That doesn't mean that there won't be better times in the future though if you give it a chance.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: AwakeFromOctavarium on June 13, 2010, 03:45:18 AM
I'd love for blissful ignorance like back when I was younger and didn't have to worry about the things I have no choice but to worry about now. I'm sure a lot of people do. That doesn't mean that there won't be better times in the future though if you give it a chance.

I agree. We have to start appreciating small things, and don't be overly anxious about things around us. Worry = Self-Torture
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on June 15, 2010, 11:18:16 PM
I really need to get out of whatever this is. The entire 18th year of my life was practically wasted from being depressed all the time. These are supposed to be fun times, but they are reaaaly not. I hate that I don't have many friends. I hate that people are mean to me. I hate to know that I'm creative and funny and it comes from feeling like this.

But nothing will change until I make it change.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: In The Wake Of Poseidon on June 16, 2010, 12:02:27 AM
Ever since I was little I've had trust issues with just about nearly everyone I meet. Even with my closest friends, I can't seem to shake feelings that they might actually dislike me. Every few years I seem to hang around with a different circle of friends because I eventually just detach myself from the old ones. It gets so bad that I begin to feel resentment towards those closest to me. I am always suspicious that they might be talking about me behind my back, or that they just keep me around for monetary reasons. I am up at 2am because I can't go to bed because I can't shake these feelings of distrust. It drives me fucking crazy because I know I'm being irrational, but I still am so emotionally effected.

Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ZBomber on June 16, 2010, 12:40:42 AM
Ever since I was little I've had trust issues with just about nearly everyone I meet. Even with my closest friends, I can't seem to shake feelings that they might actually dislike me. Every few years I seem to hang around with a different circle of friends because I eventually just detach myself from the old ones. It gets so bad that I begin to feel resentment towards those closest to me. I am always suspicious that they might be talking about me behind my back, or that they just keep me around for monetary reasons. I am up at 2am because I can't go to bed because I can't shake these feelings of distrust. It drives me fucking crazy because I know I'm being irrational, but I still am so emotionally effected.



Wow, that sounds eerily similar to me. Not so much anymore, but this was exactly me about a year ago.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on June 16, 2010, 01:32:57 AM
I really need to get out of whatever this is. The entire 18th year of my life was practically wasted from being depressed all the time. These are supposed to be fun times, but they are reaaaly not. I hate that I don't have many friends. I hate that people are mean to me. I hate to know that I'm creative and funny and it comes from feeling like this.

But nothing will change until I make it change.

Doesn't sound too far from my 18th year (okay, maybe my 16th, 17th, and 19th too). You're right; you're the only one who can make it change. It's just a matter of figuring out how you can get to the place where change is possible. It's different for all of us.

From my experience, it doesn't help to think about how things are "supposed" to be. I don't personally believe in fate or whatever you might call it, but I do believe that things happen for a reason that we might not figure out until later. I was miserable for a long time, but my misery eventually brought me good things, like friends and experiences I learned and grew from. So, I don't know if this helps, but I don't believe any time is wasted because something always comes out of it. Whatever you gain from what you're going through now will help you when you're ready for change and for the rest of your life. 

Also, just because 18 sucked doesn't mean the years after have to suck, and that's all that really matters. What's done is done and you take that with you and make the best of it.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: icysk8r on June 16, 2010, 04:29:13 AM
You see, I trust people with my life.  I'm an open book to my friends in that regard.  But when it comes to feeling like they're my friend, I constantly feel like I'm being replaced by another or like they don't want to be my friend.  So in some areas I trust, some I don't.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Hyperplex on June 16, 2010, 07:22:52 AM
I've been really depressed lately. I think the majority of it stems from three factors: my perception of the friendships in my life, the behavior of two of my coworkers and the fact that my parents' divorce is to become final tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Marvellous G on June 20, 2010, 08:55:20 AM
Maybe it's because I'm going full swing in my whiny teenager phase, but I just can't stop arguing with my mum about stupid little things. But then as my 20 year old sister says with the benefit of hindsight, our family works best from a distance.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on June 20, 2010, 09:34:48 AM
I've been really depressed lately. I think the majority of it stems from three factors: my perception of the friendships in my life, the behavior of two of my coworkers and the fact that my parents' divorce is to become final tomorrow.

Sorry to hear about the divorce. My parents went through a divorce when I was 15 but in the end it turned out better. Especially for my mom, she had a rough few years because she loved my dad but now she is way more happy and more emotionally stable. It made her a stronger woman.

What is it about friendships that is keeping you down.

I'm going through a pretty rough time right now. I'm making money, doing what I love, no debt but my relationships with people closest to me have deteriorated to almost nothing and it's not for lack of trying on my part.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: AwakeFromOctavarium on June 20, 2010, 10:14:39 AM
I've been really depressed lately. I think the majority of it stems from three factors: my perception of the friendships in my life, the behavior of two of my coworkers and the fact that my parents' divorce is to become final tomorrow.

Really sorry to hear about the divorce too. Good thing it happened when you were a bit aged. Guess what could have happened if they got divorced when you were like, 5.

Relationships are really the universal cause of depression. Nothing else, I guess. We'd like to hear details, if you don't mind.

As of now, my only source of stress is keeping up with my school works. Easy life I'm having as of now.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Hyperplex on June 20, 2010, 10:55:21 AM
My parents' divorce had been coming for 30 of the 36 years they were married. I have not the energy nor the space to go into those details. Suffice it to say, it takes two to screw it up but all love was gone. My mother left my dad a week after my wife and I returned from our honeymoon. We all knew it was coming (except for my father) but it was still a blow. Thursday after the settlement, my father called me bragging & full of joy that he "is no longer married to my mother." It's just hard for me to hear how out of love he is.

As for relationships, I don't really know where to begin. On this community, I seem to be repected but in real life things don't feel the same, especially when it comes to my coworkers. While for the most part I don't care what other people think, if the reactions/attitudes follow me everywhere, it's difficult to not believe that the common denominator is me, not everyone else. And that is not a confidence builder.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Marvellous G on June 26, 2010, 04:48:30 PM
Goddam, exams finished two days ago and I should be over the moon but I'm already depressed as I see how little of a social life I have compared to other sixteen year olds, and how I know only a handful of girls outside of school, none of whom are possible girlfriends. The summer when you're 16 is meant to be about parties and girls, but mine is not.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: icysk8r on June 26, 2010, 05:27:45 PM
Goddam, exams finished two days ago and I should be over the moon but I'm already depressed as I see how little of a social life I have compared to other sixteen year olds, and how I know only a handful of girls outside of school, none of whom are possible girlfriends. The summer when you're 16 is meant to be about parties and girls, but mine is not.
I have no social life either other than at school mostly because I don't live near any of my friends.  Although this year I am making more of an effort and asking people to hang out.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Marvellous G on June 26, 2010, 05:29:10 PM
Goddam, exams finished two days ago and I should be over the moon but I'm already depressed as I see how little of a social life I have compared to other sixteen year olds, and how I know only a handful of girls outside of school, none of whom are possible girlfriends. The summer when you're 16 is meant to be about parties and girls, but mine is not.
I have no social life either other than at school mostly because I don't live near any of my friends.  Although this year I am making more of an effort and asking people to hang out.

I have a pretty active social life with quite a lot of friends, but I'm not out partying or anything, and none of said friends are girls.  :-\ I hopefully shouldn't be at a loss for stuff to do with people this summer, it's just I'd rather be out at a club with some girls than at Thorpe Park with my friends or something, which is shallow, but... meh.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on June 28, 2010, 03:03:06 PM
Here's something to actually get down about: the gradual realization that the US could turn into a failed state in the next 20 or so years is a very real possibility.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on June 28, 2010, 03:17:03 PM
Here's something to actually get down about: the gradual realization that the US could turn into a failed state in the next 20 or so years is a very real possibility.

Even Rome fell, no state is forever although I don't believe it'll happen in our life time.

EDIT: Unless North Korea wins that 75 trillion lawsuit, then we're fucked lol.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on June 28, 2010, 06:11:56 PM
We're not that far off. Failed statehood doesn't necessarily mean chaos and going the way of Rome; we'll just be living in the 1970s...for a really really long time.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on June 28, 2010, 06:13:17 PM
Governemental meltdowns aside, I am feeling so low and lonely.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on June 28, 2010, 06:15:09 PM
We love you. :heart:
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on June 28, 2010, 07:02:17 PM
Governemental meltdowns aside, I am feeling so low and lonely.

Come on over, we can lonely together and feel each other.


....or something.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ZBomber on June 28, 2010, 08:15:07 PM
Governemental meltdowns aside, I am feeling so low and lonely.

Come on over, we can lonely together and feel each other.


....or something.

Do I smell pooper?

Uhhhhhh....
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on June 28, 2010, 08:17:25 PM
No, but james will taste his own pooper, if you get my meaning.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on June 28, 2010, 08:44:45 PM
Ever since I was little I've had trust issues with just about nearly everyone I meet. Even with my closest friends, I can't seem to shake feelings that they might actually dislike me. Every few years I seem to hang around with a different circle of friends because I eventually just detach myself from the old ones. It gets so bad that I begin to feel resentment towards those closest to me. I am always suspicious that they might be talking about me behind my back, or that they just keep me around for monetary reasons. I am up at 2am because I can't go to bed because I can't shake these feelings of distrust. It drives me fucking crazy because I know I'm being irrational, but I still am so emotionally effected.


I can fully understand this. I often can't help but feel that everyone I've ever had as a friend actually dislikes me to some extent. And I generally maintain a close friendship with very few people for longer than a year to two years. I just get the impression most people want nothing to do with me anymore after that long. The funny thing is, people tell me it's nonsense, and before I know it, another person I considered myself close friends with makes endless excuses when I try to arrange to meet up, or never seems free to talk on the phone, and I eventually just have to bite the bullet that another good friend has chosen to cut me out.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Sigz on June 28, 2010, 08:55:11 PM
No, but james will taste his own pooper, if you get my meaning.

It better only be in the heat of the moment.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on June 29, 2010, 07:49:09 PM
Ever since I was little I've had trust issues with just about nearly everyone I meet. Even with my closest friends, I can't seem to shake feelings that they might actually dislike me. Every few years I seem to hang around with a different circle of friends because I eventually just detach myself from the old ones. It gets so bad that I begin to feel resentment towards those closest to me. I am always suspicious that they might be talking about me behind my back, or that they just keep me around for monetary reasons. I am up at 2am because I can't go to bed because I can't shake these feelings of distrust. It drives me fucking crazy because I know I'm being irrational, but I still am so emotionally effected.


I can fully understand this. I often can't help but feel that everyone I've ever had as a friend actually dislikes me to some extent. And I generally maintain a close friendship with very few people for longer than a year to two years. I just get the impression most people want nothing to do with me anymore after that long. The funny thing is, people tell me it's nonsense, and before I know it, another person I considered myself close friends with makes endless excuses when I try to arrange to meet up, or never seems free to talk on the phone, and I eventually just have to bite the bullet that another good friend has chosen to cut me out.

I also understand this.

I don't know. It has wound me up into a cyclic routine of locking myself in my room most of the time, away from everyone, wondering why I feel alone all the time. It's like a prison I set up for myself.

This is why I was just feeling depressed last night. The older I get, the more I see that people, in general, are so weird. I say "weird" because they probably have their own issues to work out. Life is just such a weight to carry sometimes. I still feel down.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Hyperplex on July 01, 2010, 12:56:25 PM
Being disrespected is one of the easiest ways to fall into a deeper chasm.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: contest_sanity on July 01, 2010, 01:34:15 PM
Never run into this thread before, but I guess I'll share, for what it's worth.  I am diagnosed bi-polar, have been for about 4 years now, though I have actually been dealing with it for much longer than that.  I haven't read all 14 pages of this thread, so I don't know if anyone else also deals with this specific disorder.  Basically, you cycle between stages of depression and mania (mine usually last about 6 months or so).  The depression side I'm sure others are familiar with.  As far as mania goes, essentially it's an uncontrolled euphoria in which you go kind of crazy (not sleeping, doing stuff you normally would never do, etc.).  Anyway, it just occurred to me that we probably don't need my primer on a DT forum since we have Six Degrees at our disposal.

But I have been on medication for the past 4 years, which has helped immensely, along with therapy meetings with a counselor.  I am not by any means "cured," nor do I believe I ever will be.  I still cycle through the same stages but normally they are much less intense (due to the meds), and I have learned to deal with them much better.

It's cool to see a thread like this, though, because, unfortunately, there is still far too great a stigma surrounding mental illnesses/disorders.  I know I don't talk about it much IRL. 
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on July 01, 2010, 02:41:48 PM
I am at a pivotal moment in my life and I have no idea what I want to do when I grow up.  My dad says that I pretty much have to figure out now what I want to do with the rest of my life, but so far all I've done is hit a bunch of dead ends.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Sigz on July 01, 2010, 07:48:38 PM
Why do you have to figure that out now?
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: antigoon on July 01, 2010, 07:50:04 PM
SD, ignore your dad. You have plenty of time, don't get all worked up.
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Post by: DarkEternalNight on July 01, 2010, 08:04:54 PM
Just do something that you love and can make a decent living off of.
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Post by: Super Dude on July 01, 2010, 08:14:40 PM
That's kinda the problem; I haven't found anything yet that I get absolutely stoked about.  I'm not a passionate person like that, except with like "real life" things, I guess is what I'd call them: family, friends, girlfriend, etc.  You can't make a career out of pleasing your girlfriend or raising a family.
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Post by: antigoon on July 01, 2010, 08:17:20 PM
I would suggest trying to get internships at different places you might think you'd like.
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Post by: contest_sanity on July 01, 2010, 08:29:55 PM
You can't make a career out of pleasing your girlfriend or raising a family.
Stay-at-home Dad.
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Post by: Jamesman42 on July 01, 2010, 10:26:36 PM
Never run into this thread before, but I guess I'll share, for what it's worth.  I am diagnosed bi-polar, have been for about 4 years now, though I have actually been dealing with it for much longer than that.  I haven't read all 14 pages of this thread, so I don't know if anyone else also deals with this specific disorder.  Basically, you cycle between stages of depression and mania (mine usually last about 6 months or so).  The depression side I'm sure others are familiar with.  As far as mania goes, essentially it's an uncontrolled euphoria in which you go kind of crazy (not sleeping, doing stuff you normally would never do, etc.).  Anyway, it just occurred to me that we probably don't need my primer on a DT forum since we have Six Degrees at our disposal.

But I have been on medication for the past 4 years, which has helped immensely, along with therapy meetings with a counselor.  I am not by any means "cured," nor do I believe I ever will be.  I still cycle through the same stages but normally they are much less intense (due to the meds), and I have learned to deal with them much better.

It's cool to see a thread like this, though, because, unfortunately, there is still far too great a stigma surrounding mental illnesses/disorders.  I know I don't talk about it much IRL. 

Well, we are here for you man. Feel free to let it out, let it out.
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Post by: Dr. DTVT on July 01, 2010, 10:27:09 PM
That's kinda the problem; I haven't found anything yet that I get absolutely stoked about.  I'm not a passionate person like that, except with like "real life" things, I guess is what I'd call them: family, friends, girlfriend, etc.  You can't make a career out of pleasing your girlfriend or raising a family.

SD,  I'm pushing 32 and I don't know how much longer I want to do what I'm doing.  The nice thing about getting an education is that you will have lots of doors available to you.  The traditional notion of a career is dying - many people change careers over their lifetime because they feel the need to find new challenges.  Unless you are becoming something highly speciallized like a brain surgeon - there is always wiggle room to try change.  There is no point about worrying about something that far down the future.  Hell, we might be in a post-apocolyptic zombie filled world in about 2 years when 2012 hits.

Relax, and enjoy life and the here and now.
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Post by: blackngold29 on July 01, 2010, 11:47:07 PM
So what do you do when you like a girl, but the feeling isn't exactly mutual, but she says she likes being your friend, but doesn't always seem to act that way, and her boyfriend is a douchebag and you don't want her to get hurt, but any time she's feeling down and you try to comfort her she doesn't seem to like it, but she'll never come out and say that, nor will she tell you to stop, so you think that maybe there's still a shred of a chance that deep down she knows she likes you and won't admit it for some reason, which drives you absolutely in-bleeping-sane, but all you want is for her to be happy so it's difficult to say nothing when she looks sad, and you just feel like you're stuck in this phase that will never end, but you feel so strongly you want to hold her close and keep her safe, although every once in a while you just want to punch her square in that beautiful fucking face?
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Post by: Adami on July 02, 2010, 12:03:49 AM
So what do you do when you like a girl, but the feeling isn't exactly mutual, but she says she likes being your friend, but doesn't always seem to act that way, and her boyfriend is a douchebag and you don't want her to get hurt, but any time she's feeling down and you try to comfort her she doesn't seem to like it, but she'll never come out and say that, nor will she tell you to stop, so you think that maybe there's still a shred of a chance that deep down she knows she likes you and won't admit it for some reason, which drives you absolutely in-bleeping-sane, but all you want is for her to be happy so it's difficult to say nothing when she looks sad, and you just feel like you're stuck in this phase that will never end, but you feel so strongly you want to hold her close and keep her safe, although every once in a while you just want to punch her square in that beautiful fucking face?

Welcome to life. Get used to this situation, it will happen A LOT.
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Post by: MetalManiac666 on July 02, 2010, 12:05:08 AM
Longest sentence ever, though I have no advice to offer.
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Post by: Hyperplex on July 02, 2010, 09:26:21 AM
One of my biggest problem is my perception that I am a burden to everyone with whom I interact. It is a feeling that I have with just about everyone and it really hampers me mentally and emotionally. Feeling this way hinders every social relationship I have in some way. I can logically argue with myself that it's true when someone tells me I'm not a burden, I cannot stop feeling like I still am. It has damaged several friendships of mine and is a pervasive problem.

On a regular basis, I don't feel I'm worthy of the time my friends spend on me.
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Post by: Super Dude on July 02, 2010, 12:29:07 PM
So what do you do when you like a girl, but the feeling isn't exactly mutual, but she says she likes being your friend, but doesn't always seem to act that way, and her boyfriend is a douchebag and you don't want her to get hurt, but any time she's feeling down and you try to comfort her she doesn't seem to like it, but she'll never come out and say that, nor will she tell you to stop, so you think that maybe there's still a shred of a chance that deep down she knows she likes you and won't admit it for some reason, which drives you absolutely in-bleeping-sane, but all you want is for her to be happy so it's difficult to say nothing when she looks sad, and you just feel like you're stuck in this phase that will never end, but you feel so strongly you want to hold her close and keep her safe, although every once in a while you just want to punch her square in that beautiful fucking face?

I knew a girl like that who I had fallen for, for two years.  She manipulated me, really fucked around with me, for her own twisted pleasure.  I would never say I wished harm upon anyone.  She's the only one.
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Post by: ReaperKK on July 02, 2010, 12:49:49 PM
I am at a pivotal moment in my life and I have no idea what I want to do when I grow up.  My dad says that I pretty much have to figure out now what I want to do with the rest of my life, but so far all I've done is hit a bunch of dead ends.

Just go with what you enjoy with most right now. When I finished High School I always wanted to do something with Computer Engineering. Well 4 years into my 5 year degree and I decided it's completely not for me, I graduated and I'm doing something I love right now which is trading.

What I'm getting at is you can't possibly decide what you love and the snap of your fingers, it's a progression that you slowly go into. Explore hobbies and explore things you like.
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Post by: blackngold29 on July 02, 2010, 02:35:34 PM
One of my biggest problem is my perception that I am a burden to everyone with whom I interact. It is a feeling that I have with just about everyone and it really hampers me mentally and emotionally. Feeling this way hinders every social relationship I have in some way. I can logically argue with myself that it's true when someone tells me I'm not a burden, I cannot stop feeling like I still am. It has damaged several friendships of mine and is a pervasive problem.

On a regular basis, I don't feel I'm worthy of the time my friends spend on me.
I know how that feels, and it never stops no matter how much you contribute to the relationship, and you'll never try to call someone and hang out because their time is more important than yours... I'm doing that right now actually, ha.
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Post by: Marvellous G on July 03, 2010, 06:12:32 AM
Hmm, great, GCSEs are over and I head to my orthodontist's appointment expecting to be told to keep brushing, braces will be off soon. But no, I probably have a virus in my gums, that the orthodontist referred to with a worrying number of worrying possible names, and have to go up to London for a blood test soon. And now I'm worried. *sigh*
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on July 03, 2010, 06:22:30 AM
Longest sentence ever, though I have no advice to offer.
Go read the book Austerlitz by W.G. Sebald and get back to us. It has a sentence that runs for something like twelve pages. Extremely good book too, if you're into history, psychology, architecture, travelling... the list goes on.

@SD: I've never had any especial passion towards any career on the planet, nor did I want to commit myself to a life of academia for the sake of masturbatory scholardom. I've basically drifted into a line of work, and it's working out thus far.
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Post by: ClairvoyantCat on July 03, 2010, 01:41:13 PM
Katy Perry is getting married, and my dreams are shattered  :(
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Post by: robwebster on July 03, 2010, 01:43:03 PM
Hahaha. I like Russell Brand even more than Katy Perry.

Katy Perry makes me feel funny in my loins. Russell Brand's all-round hilarious. Brilliant bloke. I'm more gutted that he's buggering off over to the USA than that Katy Perry's snapped up.
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Post by: ClairvoyantCat on July 03, 2010, 01:52:16 PM
than that Katy Perry's snapped up.

Ha, thanks for the comfort, I like Russell Brand, but still... she is so hot!
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Arcaeus on July 03, 2010, 02:07:58 PM
I heard she kissed a girl, I wonder if he'll mind it.
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Post by: ClairvoyantCat on July 03, 2010, 02:13:32 PM
I heard she kissed a girl, I wonder if he'll mind it.

I wouldn't!  Fuck, she's hot!
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Post by: robwebster on July 03, 2010, 02:15:03 PM
I heard she kissed a girl, I wonder if he'll mind it.
I sure hope not.
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Post by: Sigz on July 03, 2010, 02:22:38 PM
Katy Perry is getting married, and my dreams are shattered  :(

I understand, I was crushed when Stacy Dupree got engaged.
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Post by: ClairvoyantCat on July 03, 2010, 02:23:36 PM
Katy Perry is getting married, and my dreams are shattered  :(

I understand, I was crushed when Stacy Dupree got engaged.

Ahhh.... not nearly as hot though, in my oppinion  :-\
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Post by: Sigz on July 03, 2010, 02:24:35 PM
Katy Perry is getting married, and my dreams are shattered  :(

I understand, I was crushed when Stacy Dupree got engaged.

Ahhh.... not nearly as hot though, in my oppinion  :-\

DON'T TALK ABOUT HER THAT WAY I LOVE HER
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Post by: ClairvoyantCat on July 03, 2010, 02:28:06 PM
Katy Perry is getting married, and my dreams are shattered  :(

I understand, I was crushed when Stacy Dupree got engaged.

Ahhh.... not nearly as hot though, in my oppinion  :-\

DON'T TALK ABOUT HER THAT WAY I LOVE HER


Errrr... nothing against  Stacy but.....


(https://specialnewsonline.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/katy-perry21.jpg)

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Post by: Arcaeus on July 03, 2010, 02:29:20 PM
Stacy's adorable (but don't worry Sigz, you can have her). Never cared for Katy.

Anyways, I've gotten a lot better since my last (serious) post in this thread. I'm still going no where in life, but I'm (somewhat) less depressed, paranoid and apathetic these days. Sometimes I randomly hit a low point even though nothing is really wrong (besides the usual things, which don't really bother me), but I remain hopefully optimistic that I'll stop feeling so detached from everything once I get my life in order.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Sigz on July 03, 2010, 02:30:03 PM
 :facepalm: This is not the thread to derail into a 'post hot womangs' thread. All I was saying is that she's someone I find exceedingly attractive, and was empathizing with your similar situation.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ZBomber on July 05, 2010, 11:44:15 PM
Why do we do things that we know will make us horrible? All day I've had this horrible feeling... and of course I make it worse by looking at old pictures of someone I miss a lot.  :-\

I've been doing much better than I was a year ago, but still I'll get one day now and then where I'll just feel like complete shit, and it looks like today is turning out to be one of those days...
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Post by: LCArenas on July 10, 2010, 12:23:26 AM
Fuck, I feel so empty right now. I mean, I feel incredibly empty. Incredibly alone. I see everywhere and everywhere I go there seems to be a person that has at least another one that he/she can count on. Aside of my family, I feel alone this time. When someone posts a sad status on Facebook, as an example. At least one person comes out and tries to cheer up, but I'm sure that if I posted "I'm depressed"-like stuff (A thing that I'll most likely never do) no fucking one would be there to cheer me up. My college friends have sent text messages to each other saying how much they miss each other in vacations, but that's not my case. And that's another thing. I'll start second semester on a few days and I feel I won't make it. People say it's hard as hell and I don't feel I have the capabilities to do it, and even more if I'm alone on this shit.

Anyway, sad story bro.
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Post by: Adami on July 10, 2010, 01:06:00 AM
Cheer up bucko.


See? I proved your theory wrong, no go feel sad about that.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on July 25, 2010, 10:35:25 PM
I am kinda depressed right now. Maybe just realllllllly sad, or some other emotion, but how about I post in here anyway?

Anyway, fuck people. It seems like so many people are lofty and full of themselves. I guess I find it as a weird dichotomy because I seclude myself from people because I get busy with work and homework, but then most everyone seems to be so wrapped up in themselves that it doesn't matter.

(I know "fuck people" isn't a Christian idea, and I apologize, but I gotta vent somewhere, and you guys are friends)

I hate how people twist things to meet their needs and they don't give two shits about anyone else. People are selfish assholes. I think I am overtired in writing this, and I may read this tomorrow and feel awkward, but this is all just coming to the surface. I have a boss who is lazy, and another one who is so fucking full of herself she doesn't even need to eat. Ever. People can't just accept things, they must always question something. Even the little kid that shares this house space with me is getting on my nerves lately.

I am usually calm, but I haven't been lately. I take walks outside and vent out A LOT of frustration playing music. But it's people.

I think I may also have some feelings of jealousy toward people. As far as family goes....well, everyone is gone. Mom is dead, Dad is a drug-addict loser, brother is in rehab, sister is a pothead party girl who doesn't care. No one calls, nothing. Friends have drifted and it's not like I matter. I would like some sort of a close friend. I don't know why I don't have a close friend nowadays.

Seriously, what happened to life? It's like it's not worth going on for. Fuck life.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Rafael Guerra on July 25, 2010, 10:55:14 PM
I really want to help and cheer some of you guys up, but I don't know if this thread is supposed to be a place of depression sharing or maybe a place to get input to find the way out of it. For those who currently think life is empty of pointless, just remember that you have the power to change it. Its YOUR life.
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Post by: sonatafanica on July 25, 2010, 10:58:22 PM
James,


Believe it or not, that's one of the good parts of life.

When you have to corner yourself and ask what you're going to do next or how you get out of it, that's when you really start to make a real person out of yourself. There are so many people who are just complete flakes because they never take the time to stare themselves in the eyes and make something happen.

You decide what sort of person you are, and that's all you ever really have.
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Post by: KevShmev on July 25, 2010, 11:37:33 PM
 For those who currently think life is empty of pointless, just remember that you have the power to change it. Its YOUR life.

Very true.  

Often times, just getting up and walking outside and getting some fresh air and sunshine can help.

Or go for a long ride, just for the hell of it, with the windows down, and crank up your favorite CD.

Or go to the gym and work out your frustrations.

Or do anything that makes you happy.

Let's face it, no matter how happy any of us are or aren't, we all have things that make us happy.

Like he said, it is your life, and you can do anything with it.  Yes, people really can suck a lot of the time, so it isn't always easy...I get that.  I am not someone who is all happy 100% of the time, saying, "Get the hell over it and be happy."  Quite the contrary.  I have my share of down moments, too, but I try to remind myself that things aren't all bad.  Not even close.  Most things are good.  It is just so easy to focus on the bad, but I will quote something my brother's g/f said recently:

Most people are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.

Those are wise words.  :) :) :)
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Post by: contest_sanity on July 25, 2010, 11:50:10 PM
Seriously, what happened to life? It's like it's not worth going on for. Fuck life.
I feel this way a decent bit.  I just try to find the things that are worth going on for.  It might be my son, my wife, perhaps God.  Sometimes even smaller things, like looking forward to some music or posting here on DTF.  Because of my history with depression, sometimes still seemingly small things make me feel like it's all pointless and worthless, that I'll never amount to anything.  Sometimes you just gotta hold on to whatever you can hold on to.  That may not be in the Bible, but perhaps it should be.

Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Rafael Guerra on July 25, 2010, 11:53:55 PM
 For those who currently think life is empty of pointless, just remember that you have the power to change it. Its YOUR life.

Very true.  

Often times, just getting up and walking outside and getting some fresh air and sunshine can help.

Or go for a long ride, just for the hell of it, with the windows down, and crank up your favorite CD.

Or go to the gym and work out your frustrations.

Or do anything that makes you happy.

Let's face it, no matter how happy any of us are or aren't, we all have things that make us happy.

Those are wise words.  :) :) :)
Exactly. Often times people think to "change their lives" involves moving to another place, changing job, changing diet or buying new stuff. Now imagine how much EXTRA-ENERGY you would put to change all those things...and imagine what could happen if you put all that EXTRA-ENERGY into maybe getting better at the job, rebonding with the family, and most of all, meeting new people.

We all have our times of "I hate the human race" but its a very wrong thought for many reasons. First of all, we are all humans (hopefully), and second, there are plenty of great people EVERYWHERE (the lines between states and countries are all IMAGINARY, there's all kinds of people everywhere), you just have to look for them. Look hard sometimes, but they will be there.

I'm positive you can change your life to something really great Jamesman (and anyone else). Heads up, full self-esteem...good luck!  :)

@contest_sanity: I like your comment. I think we are all on Earth to play a certain role, but not a mediocre role, God wants greatness from all of us. I think the appeal to religion is a great approach, and reading the Bible is certainly very comforting to me as well.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Arcaeus on July 25, 2010, 11:55:55 PM
Seriously, what happened to life? It's like it's not worth going on for. Fuck life.

This is pretty much how I've felt for the last four or five years of my life. Of course there's been plenty of good sprinkled on top of the shit that provides some temporary relief, and that's what kept me going for this long (despite a few attempts to take my life, that I do regret), but overall... I'm still not entirely sure if it's worth it. The choices I've made thus far in life have pretty much guaranteed I have no future, as I have no education, no money, no talent, no passion, and no determination (which is my fault, I guess, but I have no drive to change this), so I can't imagine how things could possibly get better.
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Post by: Portrucci on July 26, 2010, 01:24:20 AM
At least you have excellent taste in music  :heart
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Post by: CountVoorhees on July 26, 2010, 02:59:59 AM
Yeah! I'm already useless in real life! And now I'm annoying on DTF! Woo!
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on July 26, 2010, 03:28:27 AM
You don't annoy me.  :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on July 26, 2010, 04:31:16 AM
@Rafael Guerra: I don't feel I can ultimately change my life, and the way I see myself, because I think the energy and power you describe which is required to do it is beyond me.

I think it's a bit much on the part of people who are relatively happy with their lives, or already accustomed to positive thinking, to assume everyone does possess that required energy or strength to bring about the change they need. Not everyone is born equal; some people are physically weaker than others, and some people are mentally weaker; hell, some people are both. Some people could fight all they like to improve their lot, and alter how they see the world and themselves, but they're simply incapable of it, the same way some people couldn't run a marathon if they had to.

People who are already in a place where they can preach positive thinking can talk all they like; the fact is, they're already there. Either they've always been there, or they DID have the strength to fight their way there, shown by the very fact that they once weren't there, and now are.

Thus far, I have no reason to believe that everyone, and specifically that I, have the strength to exact a significant degree of change for the better on my (or their) own life. That may just be the weight of my own pessimistic thinking bearing down on me, but if that is so, it's somewhat overwhelming at the moment, as you can see.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: CountVoorhees on July 26, 2010, 11:34:28 AM
You don't annoy me.  :heart
Yeah! :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on July 26, 2010, 12:06:47 PM
Global warming is legit gonna kill us. :sadpanda:
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Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on July 26, 2010, 12:10:18 PM
I hate myself sometimes
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: robwebster on July 26, 2010, 12:47:01 PM
Global warming is legit gonna kill us. :sadpanda:
Like bollocks it is.

We're in an interglacial period. The earth isn't meant to have ice caps. We're not going through anything that's not happened to the earth umpteen times before.

Besides which, look at us. We don't have big claws or gnarly teeth or a shell. You know how some animals have pink, fleshy underbellies? We're all pink fleshy underbelly. Our one evolutionary tool, as a species, is that we're smart enough to adapt to more or less anything. Even if the temperature does go up a couple of degrees, we're not just going to sit there in our front rooms getting sunburn while we watch news reports in a big wet room full of box jellyfish. We'll wear fewer clothes and move to the hills.

Global warming isn't a massive threat. I mean, not grand that we're accelerating the process, but it's not as big as all the hype. It's a bit warmer! Aghhhhhh! We'll have to do things slightly differently and not live in the sea and change our crops a bit!

It's gutting, but it's not a nightmare.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on July 26, 2010, 12:53:14 PM
That's all good and well until our entire food supply dies out. And the danger isn't so much global warming as runaway greenhouse gases; those are gonna turn Earth into Venus.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: robwebster on July 26, 2010, 01:04:10 PM
Like I say. We're smart. A couple of cars aren't going to turn Mother Earth into a barren wasteland. She's way too strong for that. She pumps out umpteen times our pollution through tectonic activity. Volcanic activity is far more "harmful," but 'cause it's natural and uncontrollable that doesn't make quite such a good headline.

While some food sources will diminish, others will thrive. And others will benefit from perennial warmth. Fantastic time to be a fish. The eco-system is strong. You'll need to do more than dash about in a mini cooper to kill the earth.

Now overpopulation, that's a genuine problem. Global warming's definitely not cool (badum-tsh), but it's become a bit of a buzz word. It makes for a very neat apocalyptic story.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on July 26, 2010, 01:32:35 PM
If you say so. We'll see in the next 40 years.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on July 26, 2010, 02:29:57 PM
I hate myself sometimes

What's up?  :(
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Rafael Guerra on July 26, 2010, 04:15:41 PM
@Rafael Guerra: I don't feel I can ultimately change my life, and the way I see myself, because I think the energy and power you describe which is required to do it is beyond me.

I think it's a bit much on the part of people who are relatively happy with their lives, or already accustomed to positive thinking, to assume everyone does possess that required energy or strength to bring about the change they need. Not everyone is born equal; some people are physically weaker than others, and some people are mentally weaker; hell, some people are both. Some people could fight all they like to improve their lot, and alter how they see the world and themselves, but they're simply incapable of it, the same way some people couldn't run a marathon if they had to.

People who are already in a place where they can preach positive thinking can talk all they like; the fact is, they're already there. Either they've always been there, or they DID have the strength to fight their way there, shown by the very fact that they once weren't there, and now are.

Thus far, I have no reason to believe that everyone, and specifically that I, have the strength to exact a significant degree of change for the better on my (or their) own life. That may just be the weight of my own pessimistic thinking bearing down on me, but if that is so, it's somewhat overwhelming at the moment, as you can see.
Not really.
Although what I said sounds very energetic and positive, remember it is all catalyzed by what you feel right now (weakness, sadness, reluctancy). Those things can have the power to catapult you to something great, if you believe in that, you can go far actually. Let me give you a classical example:

"A freshman in high school is skinny, short and not very smart. He is bullied by everyone and is the big target. He feels weak, sad and change seems impossible. So he draws away from people and starts focusing in something that is important. He starts studying very hard, gets excellent grades and before he even realizes he is already respected in the school for someone that is very smart. He will meet people that are also very smart and they will hang out, forming a new group. He goes to college and becomes very successful and rich."

Anger, sadness and all that CAN yield positive results. Not in a short term, but they can. And by your speech, I sense that you should reflect and meditate a little bit about yourself. You are seeing yourself as someone very weak, when in fact, the world is place for strong people and you are here. So, if there are things you don't like about yourself, change them. But also make an effort to see the positive things in you and KEEP them.

P.S- The example sounds stereotypical. I can guarantee it happens with some surprising frequency in our world.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on July 26, 2010, 04:44:59 PM
I agree with you Rafeal 100%, change is possible from within, the person I am now is a complete 180 from the person I was 7 years ago in attitude and focus.

As for me, I feel a little depressed at the moment because I called it quits with my gf but I know it's the right decision for my better being.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on July 26, 2010, 07:44:16 PM
James,


Believe it or not, that's one of the good parts of life.

When you have to corner yourself and ask what you're going to do next or how you get out of it, that's when you really start to make a real person out of yourself. There are so many people who are just complete flakes because they never take the time to stare themselves in the eyes and make something happen.

You decide what sort of person you are, and that's all you ever really have.

Thank you, wise young person.



I'm still in a funk and I'm trying to figure out how to deal with people. I have to deal with people I don't want to deal with a lot, and the people I want to deal with are never there (busy).

I have more to say, don't know how to say it.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: robwebster on July 26, 2010, 08:11:14 PM
If you say so. We'll see in the next 40 years.
Keep in mind that those 40 years will see a ridiculous amount of technological advancement.

Even if global warming were a legitimate threat, the rate technology will've accelerated by then, we'll have come up with something to keep the greenhouse gases' levels down. Efficient electric cars. Reliable renewable energy sources. I'm not saying "great, let's guzzle petroleum and set fire to refridgerators," because adding to a problem is adding to a problem, and it's moronic no matter which way you slice it, but I honestly think you're totally underestimating the human race, and whenever I see all these people harping on about these doomsday scenarios and saying how we're all gonna die the first thing I notice is that they've thoroughly forgotten that humanity has a knack for living. We're excellent at surviving.

If anything's gonna kill us, it'll be ourselves - and it'll be via weaponry, not driving down the shops.

Even in the worst case scenario: It's 2050, and the sea is up to our ankles, it's 35 degrees celsius and there's a new type of mosquito which eats everybody's faces off and then slashes your tyres. Do you really think everyone's just going to be going "right, well I guess this is our fate" and then we'll just sit there with bugs munching on our heads? God no. We'll have been preparing for years. Spent milions on defences and antidotes and fantastic science. We'll be sitting there with personal fans and factor 200 sunscreen, soaking up the rays.

Global warming isn't a nice thing, but it's far from the worst problem humanity's faced. Fuck, it's far from the worst problem the coelacanth's faced. If an ugly fish can survive, I think we've got a fair shot.

In fact, even if it does end up that we all find ourselves six feet on the ground [EDIT: read; "underground," not "on the ground"], it won't be for lack of resistance. Humanity will RAGE against the dying of the light. We have METAL CANNONS THAT WE PROPEL OURSELVES AROUND THE EARTH WITH. Look at any plane, we're fantastic. Real, authentic geniuses. If a plane doesn't do the trick, you can look at this thingybob I'm using right now: an instant communication network that can send this message from here in the UK all around the earth in seconds. We're miracle-workers. As soon as it becomes urgent, god knows we'll try to deal with a heatwave and some toxic fumes, and given our track record I've got a hunch we'll win.

I've probably repeated myself about ninety times 'cause I've been on the dizzy-water, but have faith. Worst comes to the worst, you'll have been happy for 39 years. Tragic.

Quote from: Jamesman
I'm still in a funk and I'm trying to figure out how to deal with people. I have to deal with people I don't want to deal with a lot, and the people I want to deal with are never there (busy).

I have more to say, don't know how to say it.
I know the feeling! Or rather, I have known the feeling. But, the people are out there. You called us friends, earlier. Flattering, but it's not a massive coincidence that a bunch of people who you can get on with have flocked to this site. Truth is, they're not especially rare. There are a craptonne of good people knocking about. Pleasant people attract pleasant people and nobs attract nobs. And there are plenty of both. It may not immediately be clear who's who, but just go out a bit. Attend parties when you can find 'em. Find people who you genuinely like and hang out with them a bit. The power to find good people is in your hands. Use it! Abuse it! They might not like the same music, or they might not like the same films, but just keep at it. You're a good bloke. Likable, fun, authentically witty. Good people will gravitate to you. Even if you feel like you're pissing into the wind now and then, they will.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on July 26, 2010, 08:19:17 PM
You made me actually smile reading that.

I've been secluding myself for no reason. I have an entire "family" right outside that door enjoying a good time. And I hide away in books and wonder why I feel so lonely.

Thanks rob and others.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on July 26, 2010, 08:38:28 PM
If you say so. We'll see in the next 40 years.
Keep in mind that those 40 years will see a ridiculous amount of technological advancement.

Even if global warming were a legitimate threat, the rate technology will've accelerated by then, we'll have come up with something to keep the greenhouse gases' levels down. Efficient electric cars. Reliable renewable energy sources. I'm not saying "great, let's guzzle petroleum and set fire to refridgerators," because adding to a problem is adding to a problem, and it's moronic no matter which way you slice it, but I honestly think you're totally underestimating the human race, and whenever I see all these people harping on about these doomsday scenarios and saying how we're all gonna die the first thing I notice is that they've thoroughly forgotten that humanity has a knack for living. We're excellent at surviving.

If anything's gonna kill us, it'll be ourselves - and it'll be via weaponry, not driving down the shops.

Even in the worst case scenario: It's 2050, and the sea is up to our ankles, it's 35 degrees celsius and there's a new type of mosquito which eats everybody's faces off and then slashes your tyres. Do you really think everyone's just going to be going "right, well I guess this is our fate" and then we'll just sit there with bugs munching on our heads? God no. We'll have been preparing for years. Spent milions on defences and antidotes and fantastic science. We'll be sitting there with personal fans and factor 200 sunscreen, soaking up the rays.

Global warming isn't a nice thing, but it's far from the worst problem humanity's faced. Fuck, it's far from the worst problem the coelacanth's faced. If an ugly fish can survive, I think we've got a fair shot.

In fact, even if it does end up that we all find ourselves six feet on the ground, it won't be for lack of resistance. Humanity will RAGE against the dying of the light. We have METAL CANNONS THAT WE PROPEL OURSELVES AROUND THE EARTH WITH. Look at any plane, we're fantastic. Real, authentic geniuses. If a plane doesn't do the trick, you can look at this thingybob I'm using right now: an instant communication network that can send this message from here in the UK all around the earth in seconds. We're miracle-workers. As soon as it becomes urgent, god knows we'll try to deal with a heatwave and some toxic fumes, and given our track record I've got a hunch we'll win.

I've probably repeated myself about ninety times 'cause I've been on the dizzy-water, but have faith. Worst comes to the worst, you'll have been happy for 39 years. Tragic.

I get what you're saying but I'd honestly say humanity's fantasticness went out the window around 50 years ago or so.  Whenever the war ended.  After all, I agree that technological advancement will save us from catastrophe, but if big business gets their way, that advancement won't happen.

Although I might as well take heart.  After all you're right; we're a stubborn lot, us humans.  You'd know, Doctor.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Marvellous G on July 29, 2010, 06:25:35 AM
I just found out indirectly that one of my best friends has now been asked out in France, leaving me as one of the very few single people left in my friend group, which doesn't look like changing anytime soon. FML.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on July 29, 2010, 06:30:53 AM
If it makes you feel any better, in our first year at uni, my best friend and I were in more or less the same position in most aspects of our life.

Now, he's living in his own place, with a stable job, and his wife is expecting their second kid. My own situation is rather pathetic in comparison.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Marvellous G on July 29, 2010, 06:34:41 AM
If it makes you feel any better, in our first year at uni, my best friend and I were in more or less the same position in most aspects of our life.

Now, he's living in his own place, with a stable job, and his wife is expecting their second kid. My own situation is rather pathetic in comparison.

I guess I've just gotta learn not to expect my friends to stay in the exact same situation as me, but it's annoying when a close one 'leaves.'
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: wolfking on July 29, 2010, 06:42:04 AM
I'm amazed how I've seen friends 'move on.'  Very surreal and yes, depressing.  Even though we somewhat envy their situation, I'm sure they envy another persons situation also.

Even though my friends have moved on and now having children, I'm happy in my situation, I have a girlfriend, I'm happy enough. 

You do see friends change away from your situation and it really makes you think what little you have done in your life and how you are getting older yet don't seem to be progressing.  :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on August 07, 2010, 06:01:20 PM
I feel horribly depressed. I'm thinking about going and getting some whiskey.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on August 07, 2010, 06:10:39 PM
For around a week and a half, I planned an end-of-summer party with a few of my friends, starting at 7 tonight, and most of them said they were coming.  Shouldn't be too hard to figure out from there. :sadpanda:
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on August 07, 2010, 06:44:50 PM
We got each other. I find some solace in that. I did get invited to a few things tonight, but I am finding these people are really shallow. I kind of left (not fully) my group of friends to be around more Christians many years ago, and I am finding that most of them are shallow. I'm trying not to be judgmental about them because they're nice and probably mean well, but it sucks to not really feel included and on the outside looking in.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: jimbosile on August 08, 2010, 12:20:56 AM
I haven't seen my girlfriend in 2 whole days. 2 WHOLE DAYS! :sadpanda:
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: antigoon on August 08, 2010, 12:23:26 AM
I think I just came to the realization that I have very low self-esteem :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: contest_sanity on August 08, 2010, 10:26:54 AM
We got each other. I find some solace in that. I did get invited to a few things tonight, but I am finding these people are really shallow. I kind of left (not fully) my group of friends to be around more Christians many years ago, and I am finding that most of them are shallow. I'm trying not to be judgmental about them because they're nice and probably mean well, but it sucks to not really feel included and on the outside looking in.
I sometimes have a similar feeling of ostracism amongst Christian friends, not really because they're shallow necessarily, but because I don't really fit into the conservative, Republican box that many of them equate with being a Christian.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on August 08, 2010, 10:30:41 AM
I think I just came to the realization that I have very low self-esteem :lol
Might I suggest getting drunk and listening to Madonna?

Oh wait, never mind, that doesn't help at all.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on August 08, 2010, 10:40:31 AM
We got each other. I find some solace in that. I did get invited to a few things tonight, but I am finding these people are really shallow. I kind of left (not fully) my group of friends to be around more Christians many years ago, and I am finding that most of them are shallow. I'm trying not to be judgmental about them because they're nice and probably mean well, but it sucks to not really feel included and on the outside looking in.
I sometimes have a similar feeling of ostracism amongst Christian friends, not really because they're shallow necessarily, but because I don't really fit into the conservative, Republican box that many of them equate with being a Christian.

I probably called them shallow because of their box they live in. I don't know, they're cool, but I feel like I just don't fit in. My other friends, mostly agnostics, were/are awesome people. Blah.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: chknptpie on August 08, 2010, 01:35:23 PM
I seriously hate my job. My boss has ruined it for me. She doesn't let me speak my ideas, give me communication or feedback, try to make things better, and creates a schedule for me that I absolutely hate. When we discussed the new schedule she said "if I would have known you would have a problem with this, you wouldn't have gotten the job". When discussed with HR, they said "Take it or leave it". She still treats me as a new person that doesn't understand the company at all, I've been here over a year now just like most people at this location. I've been applying online at jobs and got only one interview so far. It sucks donkey balls.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Portrucci on August 25, 2010, 11:26:40 PM
Real pissed off right now. For reasons I can't say on here.  >:(
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: RG93 on August 26, 2010, 01:13:15 AM
Mind if I join in? Not feeling so good nowadays
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: In The Wake Of Poseidon on August 26, 2010, 05:37:12 AM
My sister just got a divorce, the husband actually got physical and hit her. I'm stuck between this mood of anger and depression. I'm depressed because she has twins, and its gonna be hell to raise them alone. I hope it works out ok.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on August 26, 2010, 10:53:52 AM
I feel horribly depressed. I'm thinking about going and getting some whiskey.

I've been drowning myself in whiskey this past month, although I'm trying to stop. The next few months are going to be rough.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: wolfking on August 27, 2010, 07:48:27 AM
I've been fucking depressed lately.  I have lost all motivation in my life.  I hate my job and my mundane routine.  I feel I have no purpose at the moment.  I use to love my work, I can't drag myself out of bed because I know I have to go to work.  I have lost all motivation and enthusiasm in my work.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on August 27, 2010, 09:06:32 AM
I've been fucking depressed lately.  I have lost all motivation in my life.  I hate my job and my mundane routine.  I feel I have no purpose at the moment.  I use to love my work, I can't drag myself out of bed because I know I have to go to work.  I have lost all motivation and enthusiasm in my work.

Has anything in your personal life or work life has changed to cause a change of attitude towards work.

I know personally I go through moments where I just get tired of work, doing the same thing day in and out.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: wolfking on August 28, 2010, 06:48:49 AM
I've been fucking depressed lately.  I have lost all motivation in my life.  I hate my job and my mundane routine.  I feel I have no purpose at the moment.  I use to love my work, I can't drag myself out of bed because I know I have to go to work.  I have lost all motivation and enthusiasm in my work.

Has anything in your personal life or work life has changed to cause a change of attitude towards work.

I know personally I go through moments where I just get tired of work, doing the same thing day in and out.

We got a new boss, he's okay but I really respected my old boss (who is still actually a high position in our team) sometimes it's hard to get motivated at work and really do what you need to do, especially when you feel like you don't get respected.

But you are right, I think I'm just tired.  I haven't had a week off in over 5 years, so I'm probably drained, and it's coming into the busy time again. Doing the same thing everyday is starting to get to me.

Sometimes life just gets to you I guess.  But I'm healthy and normal, so I guess I shouldn't complain.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: wolfking on August 28, 2010, 06:49:58 AM
I haven't seen my girlfriend in 2 whole days. 2 WHOLE DAYS! :sadpanda:

Are you taking the piss of this thread dude, or do you really think you've got it tough if that's you biggest problem??
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on August 28, 2010, 08:37:30 AM
I've been fucking depressed lately.  I have lost all motivation in my life.  I hate my job and my mundane routine.  I feel I have no purpose at the moment.  I use to love my work, I can't drag myself out of bed because I know I have to go to work.  I have lost all motivation and enthusiasm in my work.

Has anything in your personal life or work life has changed to cause a change of attitude towards work.

I know personally I go through moments where I just get tired of work, doing the same thing day in and out.

We got a new boss, he's okay but I really respected my old boss (who is still actually a high position in our team) sometimes it's hard to get motivated at work and really do what you need to do, especially when you feel like you don't get respected.

But you are right, I think I'm just tired.  I haven't had a week off in over 5 years, so I'm probably drained, and it's coming into the busy time again. Doing the same thing everyday is starting to get to me.

Sometimes life just gets to you I guess.  But I'm healthy and normal, so I guess I shouldn't complain.

I can completely relate, I used to have a job where I wasn't respected and just basically passed over day in and day out so I just quit.

I'd recommend taking some time off. I took a job 2 months ago that requires me to work 67 hours a week, no break or possibility for time off until I'm done September 28th. It was a lot of money and it was pretty easy at first but now it's taking it's toll. I find that extra workload has bled into my personal life, where I don't really look forward to anything anymore. I'm planning a trip to europe for a few weeks to a month to unwind. I think it'll just be nice to relax and do whatever I want.

Like you said though, I'm healthy as well and compared to everyone my age I'm incredibly successful in my work and finances so I can't complain.

Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Rina on August 28, 2010, 11:13:19 AM
-is joining-
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Gorille85 on August 28, 2010, 11:27:24 AM
-is joining-
What's going on? :-\
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on August 28, 2010, 06:20:22 PM
So, I have been with Beth for about four and a half months, and everything between us, is amazing. There is just one thing between us, that causes huge problems...roughly 700 miles. It's really hard to have a serious relationship, when you don't know when you'll see them. I'm off school December 17th through January 14th, I thought that would be perfect to visit her, but, her house will be too full with people for me to stay there. That was the absolute next time I could see her...and if I can't see her then, I wont see her anytime soon. My springbreak ends the 12th, hers starts the 13th. So, I wont see her till next summer. This makes me an extremely  :sadpanda:. It's so painful, to be madly in love with someone, 700 miles away.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on September 03, 2010, 11:07:27 AM
-is joining-

What's the deal?
So, I have been with Beth for about four and a half months, and everything between us, is amazing. There is just one thing between us, that causes huge problems...roughly 700 miles. It's really hard to have a serious relationship, when you don't know when you'll see them. I'm off school December 17th through January 14th, I thought that would be perfect to visit her, but, her house will be too full with people for me to stay there. That was the absolute next time I could see her...and if I can't see her then, I wont see her anytime soon. My springbreak ends the 12th, hers starts the 13th. So, I wont see her till next summer. This makes me an extremely  :sadpanda:. It's so painful, to be madly in love with someone, 700 miles away.

I can completely relate. While I didn't have 700 miles, I had 400, that I would drive twice a month. It's hard.
Do you guys have an endgame for the long distance relationship?
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: blackngold29 on September 10, 2010, 11:19:53 AM
How does every nice, smart, good looking girl I meet not like me? They seem fine as friends and then you ask what they're doing sometime and they get all, "Oh, yeah I'm busy. Sorry." My self-esteem is already so low it takes me forever to find the balls to ask and then I get that line again.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ariich on September 10, 2010, 12:15:51 PM
As of today I belong in this thread (see lonely hearts club thread). Can't even think straight right now, don't think I've ever felt this horrible and can only see it getting worse as the next few weeks go on. :(
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dark Master Of Sin on September 10, 2010, 12:48:32 PM

I can completely relate. While I didn't have 700 miles, I had 400, that I would drive twice a month. It's hard.
Do you guys have an endgame for the long distance relationship?

If we're still together when we graduate from College, we want to move in together and start a family. While, that's way down the road, it's been discussed.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: icysk8r on September 10, 2010, 03:20:44 PM
Still here, as I have been for over a year now.  Time really drags on when you're depressed as shit and loathe every minute you're alive.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on September 11, 2010, 09:22:22 AM

I can completely relate. While I didn't have 700 miles, I had 400, that I would drive twice a month. It's hard.
Do you guys have an endgame for the long distance relationship?

If we're still together when we graduate from College, we want to move in together and start a family. While, that's way down the road, it's been discussed.

Well keep working on it. I have a good friend of mine who started dating her bf the final semester of High School. They dated all through college 500 miles apart. She moved to be closer with him and they had changed so much they ended up breaking up. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't stick through and keep a positive outlook. It can work, but it is work.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on September 14, 2010, 06:52:56 PM
here comes me
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on September 14, 2010, 07:56:14 PM
What's up?
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on September 14, 2010, 08:40:25 PM
hmmm... im 19, no job, been in a slump for a year and a half since my dead was killed (the day after i turned 18).... living with my gf and her family (who absolutely love me)... she is in school, transfering to a full university in less than a year, and i am here with like i said no job, (no one will hire me) and cant go to school because $$$... grrrargh
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: TioJorge on September 14, 2010, 11:28:18 PM
Hope is forever fleeting.  Which is why it makes it all that much more important that you clutch it like you're hanging onto the atoms of a rock on the edge of a cliff. Don't give up, and while I know this means nothing, that it will fall on deaf ears (blind eyes?), remember that giving up is the only time and the only way that you lose. You could be beaten, helpless, raped, moneyless, homeless, but if you have hope and you have not given up then you have not lost. In the end this will more than likely be just another random, pointless speech that goes unwarranted, but I feel it needs to be said because hope is the only thing that we have in our darkest moment. Even if you think it isn't there and that there is no point in going on or that there is no point in living, if your eyes reflect a single ray of light then you are worth all the pain and suffering that this world can offer and deserve to go on living to see a better day.

Know that you who are reading this is important enough to die for if you have hope and strength enough to go on to strive to make tomorrow a better day for yourself. I'm not going to say it could be worse, because it very well couldn't be, I don't know. I do know, however, that if you have hope then it could be better for you if you try. It is not easy by any means; it will more than likely be the hardest god damned thing you've ever done to hold onto hope when everything else has deserted you and left you for dead. But that is what life is about, holding onto what you think isn't there. As long as your eyes glisten with life, hold onto hope and know that you are worth living for and that a better day will come as long as you strive forward with strength and dignity, even if you think you have none. The will and meaning of life itself resides in the thought of knowing that you will never give up in the face of absolute and known failure.

Know that while I myself have huddled in the calmness and absolute black serenity that engulfs oneself when you give up and submit, I find it to be elating, blissful, and everlasting to think that some people in this world are much more worse off than I am and stand firm, tall, and force themselves to go on knowing that if they keep striving forward with their chest held high and their mind set on the path of what they know is right that they will never, ever fail no matter what force or utter destruction awaits them. I don't know you. I will never. Yet still I know in my heart that you are worth living for, worth dying for, worth suffering for, and worth hoping for. Because at the end of our days and as we take our last breath and last thought the only thing we have is hope that someone, somewhere will be stronger than we are and strive to make themselves better so that tomorrow just might bet a better day than yesterday. It is nigh impossible. But to me that is what life is about. Doing what is thought impossible. And hope lies right in that category. Something so simple to comprehend and yet nearly unattainable when put into motion. But you can do so, because you are in fact that strong; and you have it in you even if you at this moment think you do not. You do. You can.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on September 15, 2010, 07:47:11 AM
Great post Tio

PotY material right there
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Portrucci on September 15, 2010, 11:32:05 PM
I personally really like leaning about how happiness works in the brain. Ironically it won't make you any happier, but it does shed some light on the many reasons happiness eludes us. It's seems to be a very misunderstood emotion, especially as to it's causes. Things like the paradox of choice is a good example; That is, for each addition option you are forced to consider, the less satisfied you will be with the option you choose. The paradox lying in the fact nearly every time we will prefer a bigger choice to a smaller one. Also stuff like oppurtunity cost comes in to play; where we often exaggerate in our minds how much better off we would have been if we had chosen the next best option to what we have now.

If you are interested in this subject there is a great TED talk on it: https://www.ted.com/talks/dan_gilbert_asks_why_are_we_happy.html

This post may seem out of place in the depressed thread, and I don't expect it to be anything really helpful but what I am saying is that learning about happiness has personally given me some clarity to quite a few reasons why I've felt like shit in the past.  :tup 
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ACID_FOX on September 16, 2010, 09:37:44 AM
Still here, as I have been for over a year now.  Time really drags on when you're depressed as shit and loathe every minute you're alive.

 :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Arcaeus on September 16, 2010, 10:41:20 AM
I'm starting to realize that life simply isn't for everybody.

I don't know if this belongs in this thread. I don't think I should post it anywhere. I'm not even sure if I feel depressed anymore, because I don't feel much of anything.

I think I suffer from minor (and getting steadily worse) psychopathy, as in I lack empathy or morals, but the fact that I'm afraid of this makes me believe that perhaps I don't (like they say crazy people don't know they're crazy). Still, I feel that my positive emotions are dead or dying, and the only things I can feel strongly are hatred, jealousy and anxiety.

I still laugh, and care about my close friends, and things like that, but it doesn't feel like it's enough and in most cases... I don't enjoy anything anymore. I'll try to watch movies or write stories or play video games, things I used to love and have so much passion for, but I just experience little to no enjoyment and have no creative drive and get zero emotional response from it all and just give up. My love for music is a bit dulled as well, and though I can still appreciate it more than I do anything else, I'm afraid that's going away too.

I stopped going to school a few years back. I wasn't bullied (much), my life didn't suck, but I had no determination or concentration and I just loathed everyone around me, and it's not that I even wanted to; I wanted to have friends, I wanted to have a social life, but my mind always seemed to target and focus on the negative in people and I just started to hate them for unwarranted reasons. I still do this, and I can't help it, and since I stopped attending school I've had no contact with anyone besides family and family friends (avoiding even them whenever I could, because I hate pretending like I have emotions and care about anything in their lives), and my one friend off of the internet (also my ex-girlfriend, which really fucking hurts, by the way). I'm going crazy from the isolation and while part of me knows I need people to save me from that, the other, more prominent part is still a bitter, whiny misanthrope that just wants everyone to fuck off. And I hate that. I don't want to be that person, but even if I try to fight it, I still am. I can't force myself to care.

There's a silly little voice inside me that says "oh, everything will be better someday, don't worry about a thing", and that's keeping me from slipping into full depression, but how will things get better? I have no education, no friends, I'll have no idea how to get by in life and I'll be an adult soon (if only in age). I know most are thinking "if you don't want to be this kind of person, then shut the hell up and stop", but I can't. I say to myself I want to turn my life around, but thinking I want something and having the actual determination to do so are two different things entirely, and I don't have the latter.

I tried taking antidepressants two years back, but they had no effect on me, and I stopped a few months later. I have such a stoic, passionless, unimaginative view on things, which could be worse, I suppose, but I miss my empathy, creativity and imagination. I want to be happy, I want to enjoy life, but the same dead part of me that says "what's the point in being sad?" also says "what's the point in being happy?".

Every now and then I'll have a sudden, unprompted moment of clarity where I'll be hopeful and full of life and happiness, and have the passion for writing and reading and such that I lost a long time ago along with the determination to move forward with my life that I've been desperately searching for, but then it'll be gone just like that, and I'll be back where I started. Still, those are the moments I live for, as nothing else seems worth it. Otherwise, I just engage in various forms of escapism all day; I'll listen to music, I'll read, I'll play World of Warcraft, anything that can let me be someone other than myself, even if it's only temporarily, even if I don't enjoy those things as much as I once did.

Ugh. Fuck. I just needed to let that out. That's not even half of it but I'll scoop up whatever dignity I have left and end the post here.

tl;dr: pointless whining, disregard this post.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Slain on September 16, 2010, 10:59:09 AM
I'm starting to realize that life simply isn't for everybody.

I don't know if this belongs in this thread. I don't think I should post it anywhere. I'm not even sure if I feel depressed anymore, because I don't feel much of anything.

I think I suffer from minor (and getting steadily worse) psychopathy, as in I lack empathy or morals, but the fact that I'm afraid of this makes me believe that perhaps I don't (like they say crazy people don't know they're crazy). Still, I feel that my positive emotions are dead or dying, and the only things I can feel strongly are hatred, jealousy and anxiety.

I still laugh, and care about my close friends, and things like that, but it doesn't feel like it's enough and in most cases... I don't enjoy anything anymore. I'll try to watch movies or write stories or play video games, things I used to love and have so much passion for, but I just experience little to no enjoyment and have no creative drive and get zero emotional response from it all and just give up. My love for music is a bit dulled as well, and though I can still appreciate it more than I do anything else, I'm afraid that's going away too.

I stopped going to school a few years back. I wasn't bullied (much), my life didn't suck, but I had no determination or concentration and I just loathed everyone around me, and it's not that I even wanted to; I wanted to have friends, I wanted to have a social life, but my mind always seemed to target and focus on the negative in people and I just started to hate them for unwarranted reasons. I still do this, and I can't help it, and since I stopped attending school I've had no contact with anyone besides family and family friends (avoiding even them whenever I could, because I hate pretending like I have emotions and care about anything in their lives), and my one friend off of the internet (also my ex-girlfriend, which really fucking hurts, by the way). I'm going crazy from the isolation and while part of me knows I need people to save me from that, the other, more prominent part is still a bitter, whiny misanthrope that just wants everyone to fuck off. And I hate that. I don't want to be that person, but even if I try to fight it, I still am. I can't force myself to care.

There's a silly little voice inside me that says "oh, everything will be better someday, don't worry about a thing", and that's keeping me from slipping into full depression, but how will things get better? I have no education, no friends, I'll have no idea how to get by in life and I'll be an adult soon (if only in age). I know most are thinking "if you don't want to be this kind of person, then shut the hell up and stop", but I can't. I say to myself I want to turn my life around, but thinking I want something and having the actual determination to do so are two different things entirely, and I don't have the latter.

I tried taking antidepressants two years back, but they had no effect on me, and I stopped a few months later. I have such a stoic, passionless, unimaginative view on things, which could be worse, I suppose, but I miss my empathy, creativity and imagination. I want to be happy, I want to enjoy life, but the same dead part of me that says "what's the point in being sad?" also says "what's the point in being happy?".

Every now and then I'll have a sudden, unprompted moment of clarity where I'll be hopeful and full of life and happiness, and have the passion for writing and reading and such that I lost a long time ago along with the determination to move forward with my life that I've been desperately searching for, but then it'll be gone just like that, and I'll be back where I started. Still, those are the moments I live for, as nothing else seems worth it. Otherwise, I just engage in various forms of escapism all day; I'll listen to music, I'll read, I'll play World of Warcraft, anything that can let me be someone other than myself, even if it's only temporarily, even if I don't enjoy those things as much as I once did.

Ugh. Fuck. I just needed to let that out. That's not even half of it but I'll scoop up whatever dignity I have left and end the post here.

tl;dr: pointless whining, disregard this post.

I've felt like that before, to an extent. And the only thing I've found to work, as simple as it seems, is to learn to live with it. You have to try your best to find someone, or something that makes you feel alive, and motivated. I found someone, but it's different for everyone. Maybe even keep yourself busy with things that you used to love and enjoy, and you might find yourself enjoying them again. I've taken antidepressants before too, and I'm with you on that, it doesn't really do much for me.

Can you remember an event that happened that started all of this? I can remember what it was for me, but sometimes it does just happen for no reason. The phrase "Ignorance is Bliss" sometimes means more than people think.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dr. DTVT on September 16, 2010, 11:03:00 AM
Arcaeus, have you thought about just talking to a councilor?  The fact that you see this in yourself says to me you aren't crazy (like you said), but you want something better for yourself.  A lot of times its easier to talk to a stranger (a well qualified one at that) than it is family and friends because you don't worry about them thinking less of you; not that they would of course, but in your mind they would.

It sounds like you need to find something to be passionate about - a purpose.  Feel free to take one or two of my passions, I have to many and I just end up with a lot of half-completed shit, or go get a girl pregnant, that'll give you something constant to work on.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Marvellous G on September 16, 2010, 11:21:32 AM
I second the counsellor idea, the fact that you're objectively aware of all of these things about you means that you're not half as lost a case as you think you are. If you were like that and ignorant you should be worried, but the fact that you recognise the problem and want to change means there's hope for you.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: robwebster on September 16, 2010, 12:34:14 PM
Placeholder. Brb...
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on September 16, 2010, 01:46:55 PM
Arcaeus, I have felt the same you do at least by reading your post last year. I kept it all to myself and then finally I decided to talk to a therapist. I think that was one of the best experiences in my life, to be able to open up to someone, she really did give some great insight and things that I would've glazed over.

Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: icysk8r on September 16, 2010, 03:28:31 PM
Still here, as I have been for over a year now.  Time really drags on when you're depressed as shit and loathe every minute you're alive.

 :lol :lol :lol
OLOLIT'SFUNNYCUZIT'STRUE
 :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: CountVoorhees on September 16, 2010, 03:32:53 PM
Don't Follow by Alice In Chains is horribly depressing.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on September 16, 2010, 03:35:37 PM
I've noticed that when I'm depressed I write relaxing soft music.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 16, 2010, 03:53:44 PM
I've noticed that when I'm depressed I write relaxing soft music.

I've noticed that when I'm depressed, it's because I miss my favorite vulgar Jew.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Adami on September 16, 2010, 03:56:19 PM
I've noticed that when I'm depressed I write relaxing soft music.

I've noticed that when I'm depressed, it's because I miss my favorite vulgar Jew.

JIMMY!!!

Wait, I'm not vulgar, I don't even curse!
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 16, 2010, 04:01:46 PM
I have never watched you watch your mouth, but I have watched you wash your mouth.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: chknptpie on September 23, 2010, 01:29:41 PM
So I'll move my stuff over here from the chat thread.

Found out last night that my friend passed away sometime in the past day or two. One of my friends went home, to find my other friend overdosed. Needless to say I'm a bit of a mess today.

Come to work to give a presentation that I have no idea what I'm doing. My boss doesn't talk to me, inform me, she knows I hate her. After my presentation, my boss goes on and on about how my coworker did hers. My coworker and I work rotating shifts and only see each other on Wednesdays. Its made my life hard and I'm on the brink of a blow up with my boss about it. When the schedule was discussed originally, I expressed my concerns and she stated "If I would have known you would have a problem with this, you wouldn't have got the job". WTF...

Anyways back to today, I said Would have been nice to see, she said you could have asked yesterday. Impossible with only one overlap day, with all meetings and shit, its impossible. She then says I can come in on my day off to see her presentation. WTF. She set up this schedule, I'm working the hours I need to work. But I have to come in on my day off to do bullshit?

Then find out that a chore here at work that my coworker and I need to do daily hasn't been done since I LAST DID IT ON SATURDAY. &#@($^&@)O(I$#^@)

I'm feeling stabby. Can we call this the depressed/anger thread.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: LTE on September 23, 2010, 02:06:21 PM
I need some advice, not for me, for my girlfriend. We both go to college 300 miles apart but that's not really the problem, in fact the distance hasn't affected much between us. However she has been getting really stressed at school. She wants to be a filmmaker, or do something in the film industry. But she is getting very emotional about all the other classes she is taking, that are useless. She also passed in her first film project today and the teacher and class basically ripped it apart, and criticized all the technicalities of the shots,etc. Something she had never really experienced, and says she will probably fail the class. She called me, crying and doesn't want to be there, doesn't want to do anything, and "wants to leave". We are coming home Columbus Day weekend which is good, but I care about her too much to see her suffer. A few days after columbus day is a meeting for an internship not at the school that really interests her.  She gets emotional sometimes but this is the worst I've seen her. I said she should call her parents but her mom didn't really understand. I thought she could take the semester off and have a mental break, but then she would miss the date for the internship meeting, which still isn't a guarantee. Any other options or ideas? I can't let this stand.  :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Hellholming on September 23, 2010, 03:54:22 PM
Don't Follow by Alice In Chains is horribly depressing.
but such a good song.

the intro always reminds me of "Finally Free".
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on September 23, 2010, 05:15:05 PM
I need some advice, not for me, for my girlfriend. We both go to college 300 miles apart but that's not really the problem, in fact the distance hasn't affected much between us. However she has been getting really stressed at school. She wants to be a filmmaker, or do something in the film industry. But she is getting very emotional about all the other classes she is taking, that are useless. She also passed in her first film project today and the teacher and class basically ripped it apart, and criticized all the technicalities of the shots,etc. Something she had never really experienced, and says she will probably fail the class. She called me, crying and doesn't want to be there, doesn't want to do anything, and "wants to leave". We are coming home Columbus Day weekend which is good, but I care about her too much to see her suffer. A few days after columbus day is a meeting for an internship not at the school that really interests her.  She gets emotional sometimes but this is the worst I've seen her. I said she should call her parents but her mom didn't really understand. I thought she could take the semester off and have a mental break, but then she would miss the date for the internship meeting, which still isn't a guarantee. Any other options or ideas? I can't let this stand.  :heart

I've gone through things like this with my gf (who was incredibly emotional) in college, we dated all through college and there were times where she was having a hard time/doubtful about her future at the school. We also did the long distance thing.

My advice for you is to be with her and comfort her but keep her motivated. There were a few times where my gf was ready to drop out simply from the stress of it all but I would give my ear to her and sometimes a few surprise visits really helped.

As for your girlfriend, well I've been at university, failed classes, dropped classes and the whole nine yards. It's tough to stick it out but if it's something that you believe in and enjoy then she should take criticism with a grain of salt. You're going to run into those professor and TA's during your time there but it's all part of school.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dr. DTVT on September 23, 2010, 06:13:04 PM
LTE -

As an college teacher, I can tell you that college is the first time many students get real constructive feedback, and many don't take it well.  When someone is pointing out your mistakes and shortcomings AND IT'S THEIR JOB, you can't take it personally, you can't be dismissive of the criticism, and you have to be willing to learn and adapt.  As a filmmaker, everything she does is going to be scrutinized...hell there is even a profession for it called "film critic", so she's going to need to learn to accept criticism at both the private and public level as well.  She'll have to learn to accept it if that's what she wants to do.  As for failing, students are tend to overly worry about their grade.  Your job is to be supportive, but also keep her in check with reality if you really care about her.  You can't spoon feed her the sugar she wants to hear, you should mix the rational tough-love in with the suuport otherwise she won't be able to deal with a greater volume of stress down the road.

Taking a semester off is a terrible idea.  Its going to raise red flags for any future employer.  They'll find someone who survived the frying pan, not someone who got cooked.

Mental toughness is something that develops over time.  Most people aren't mentally tough, and it sounds like your girl is as soft as a cloud.  She's not going to instantly feel better, but she's going to need to begin to take steps in order to do what she wants to do.  If she can't handle a professor pointing out mistakes, I don't think she could handle a film critic publishing a negative review.

I'm not trying to be a jerk, I'm telling you she needs a reality check, and you may need to deliver some of them.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: HarlequinForest on September 23, 2010, 07:13:34 PM
/depressed

Failed my first of four Calc II tests, despite studying 2 hours+ a night and having a seemingly firm grasp of the material.  I've also failed all four of my weekly quizzes, despite the same circumstances.  What's most depressing is that I'm basically the worst student in the class, yet I know several people who claim they don't study much at all and do so much better than me; it just makes me feel like an idiot.  I passed Calc I quite easily... I just don't get why I can't do good under this instructor.  Anyways, I felt so bad that I've basically stopped going to class, and I'm going to drop it.

I'll have to decide before next semester if I want to change my major from Electrical Engineering to something else.  I'm too afraid to go into the Engineering job market with a < 3.0 GPA anyways.  I'm thinking Accounting... I don't really know.  No realistically attainable job in the world really interests me.

Anyways, that's just the smallest reason I have for being depressed; I won't pain you all with my pathetic social life.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dr. DTVT on September 23, 2010, 09:49:33 PM
/depressed

Failed my first of four Calc II tests, despite studying 2 hours+ a night and having a seemingly firm grasp of the material.  I've also failed all four of my weekly quizzes, despite the same circumstances.  What's most depressing is that I'm basically the worst student in the class, yet I know several people who claim they don't study much at all and do so much better than me; it just makes me feel like an idiot.  I passed Calc I quite easily... I just don't get why I can't do good under this instructor.  Anyways, I felt so bad that I've basically stopped going to class, and I'm going to drop it.

I'll have to decide before next semester if I want to change my major from Electrical Engineering to something else.  I'm too afraid to go into the Engineering job market with a < 3.0 GPA anyways.  I'm thinking Accounting... I don't really know.  No realistically attainable job in the world really interests me.

Anyways, that's just the smallest reason I have for being depressed; I won't pain you all with my pathetic social life.

Time for me to put the prof hat on again...

If you are studying and coming up short, either your study habits are inneffective - or worse - you misunderstand a concept you think you understand and it's causing problems for everything built upon that concept.  Make an appointment w/ your prof during their office hours.  That's his/her job.  Believe it or not, most of us in the education field are in it because we WANT to teach.  If we wanted to just collect a paycheck, we would do much better in the private sector.  Its always easier to blame the instructor, but unless the entire class doesn't understand something, its usually on you.  No employer wants to hear you shift the blame.  Own up and work on your weaknesses - thats what employers want.

Don't compare yourself to others.  Each of you have different backgrounds, initial learning bases, and different aptitudes, beyond that, as shitty as this may sound - you are not going to be the best at what you do, and the wider your exposure to people you are going to find more and more people who are better than than you at what you do; myself included.  You have to learn to accept that.

As for your GPA, if you're still early enough into your schooling to change majors, you definately have time to improve it.  Very few people graduate with a 4.0.  There is a reason the average grade is considered a C (with grade inflation its more like a B now but that's another story), and that's because you don't have to know everything to be successful.  If everyone was given A's, the reputation of your school would quickly fall to shambles because an employer would have a hard time separating the grain for the chaff.  Most people don't graduate Cum Laude or better from college, and guess what?  They still become gainfully employed.

You can't walk around like Chicken Little and think the sky is going to fall...because if you do it IS going to fall.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ZBomber on September 23, 2010, 09:52:38 PM
/depressed

Failed my first of four Calc II tests, despite studying 2 hours+ a night and having a seemingly firm grasp of the material.  I've also failed all four of my weekly quizzes, despite the same circumstances.  What's most depressing is that I'm basically the worst student in the class, yet I know several people who claim they don't study much at all and do so much better than me; it just makes me feel like an idiot.  I passed Calc I quite easily... I just don't get why I can't do good under this instructor.  Anyways, I felt so bad that I've basically stopped going to class, and I'm going to drop it.

I'll have to decide before next semester if I want to change my major from Electrical Engineering to something else.  I'm too afraid to go into the Engineering job market with a < 3.0 GPA anyways.  I'm thinking Accounting... I don't really know.  No realistically attainable job in the world really interests me.

Anyways, that's just the smallest reason I have for being depressed; I won't pain you all with my pathetic social life.

Time for me to put the prof hat on again...

If you are studying and coming up short, either your study habits are inneffective - or worse - you misunderstand a concept you think you understand and it's causing problems for everything built upon that concept.  Make an appointment w/ your prof during their office hours.  That's his/her job.  Believe it or not, most of us in the education field are in it because we WANT to teach.  If we wanted to just collect a paycheck, we would do much better in the private sector.  Its always easier to blame the instructor, but unless the entire class doesn't understand something, its usually on you.  No employer wants to hear you shift the blame.  Own up and work on your weaknesses - thats what employers want.

I've gotta disagree with you there. I think the instructor DOES have a lot to do with it. Doesn't mean its a bad professor. But there are so many different teaching styles, and some work better for others.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dr. DTVT on September 23, 2010, 10:02:07 PM
If most of the class gets it and a few students don't, I'm not changing the way I teach the class.  That's where one-on-one help comes in.  But if I'm not asked for it...well I can't give it.  Blaming someone else is always the ego saving way, and when I was an undergrad I did the same thing.  "I never had a problem with this before, therefore it MUST be Dr. Soandso's fault" is more comforting than, "I need to work harder" or "Maybe I'm not good enough."  In retrospect, I can honestly say I only had one bad professor, and I can say that because I got an A in his class despite his lack of effort and his uncanny ability to side-track himself at the drop of a hat.

Tough love sucks, but it has to be given.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Portrucci on September 23, 2010, 10:03:05 PM
/depressed

Failed my first of four Calc II tests, despite studying 2 hours+ a night and having a seemingly firm grasp of the material.  I've also failed all four of my weekly quizzes, despite the same circumstances.  What's most depressing is that I'm basically the worst student in the class, yet I know several people who claim they don't study much at all and do so much better than me; it just makes me feel like an idiot.  I passed Calc I quite easily... I just don't get why I can't do good under this instructor.  Anyways, I felt so bad that I've basically stopped going to class, and I'm going to drop it.

I'll have to decide before next semester if I want to change my major from Electrical Engineering to something else.  I'm too afraid to go into the Engineering job market with a < 3.0 GPA anyways.  I'm thinking Accounting... I don't really know.  No realistically attainable job in the world really interests me.

Anyways, that's just the smallest reason I have for being depressed; I won't pain you all with my pathetic social life.
Just don't do Accounting. Trust me.

I'm 2 years into a double degree of Accounting/Banking and Finance, and while Finance is actually pretty interesting and full of useful life-skills (amortized loans, share portfolios etc), the Accounting is so in depth in terms of recording and amending obscure internal company reports, it will have absolutely no use whatsoever unless I become an accountant which isn't going to happen, so at that point I lose all enthusiasm for study or doing well. Not sure if I should just tough it out (and risk it bringing down my GPA) or drop it, having effectively wasted all that money on those units.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ZBomber on September 23, 2010, 10:23:01 PM
If most of the class gets it and a few students don't, I'm not changing the way I teach the class.  That's where one-on-one help comes in.  But if I'm not asked for it...well I can't give it.  Blaming someone else is always the ego saving way, and when I was an undergrad I did the same thing.  "I never had a problem with this before, therefore it MUST be Dr. Soandso's fault" is more comforting than, "I need to work harder" or "Maybe I'm not good enough."  In retrospect, I can honestly say I only had one bad professor, and I can say that because I got an A in his class despite his lack of effort and his uncanny ability to side-track himself at the drop of a hat.

Tough love sucks, but it has to be given.

I'm not saying the professor should change their way of teaching to meet the needs of one or two students, but you don't agree that different students will naturally learn better from different ways of teaching?
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dr. DTVT on September 23, 2010, 10:36:21 PM
Yeah, but I don't have time to make give the lecture for those who are visually inclined, auditory inclined, application inclined.  In addition, some subjects lend themselves to certain learning types better than others.  At some point the student has to take responsibility for their work.  If a professor organizes the lecture, uses proper visual aids, communicates clearly, and is willing to engage the student - and almost every professor does these things, they did their job.  The world doesn't cater to each person.  Personal responsibility is more a determining factor for success than the quality of instruction.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: HarlequinForest on September 23, 2010, 11:17:49 PM
/depressed

Failed my first of four Calc II tests, despite studying 2 hours+ a night and having a seemingly firm grasp of the material.  I've also failed all four of my weekly quizzes, despite the same circumstances.  What's most depressing is that I'm basically the worst student in the class, yet I know several people who claim they don't study much at all and do so much better than me; it just makes me feel like an idiot.  I passed Calc I quite easily... I just don't get why I can't do good under this instructor.  Anyways, I felt so bad that I've basically stopped going to class, and I'm going to drop it.

I'll have to decide before next semester if I want to change my major from Electrical Engineering to something else.  I'm too afraid to go into the Engineering job market with a < 3.0 GPA anyways.  I'm thinking Accounting... I don't really know.  No realistically attainable job in the world really interests me.

Anyways, that's just the smallest reason I have for being depressed; I won't pain you all with my pathetic social life.

Time for me to put the prof hat on again...

If you are studying and coming up short, either your study habits are inneffective - or worse - you misunderstand a concept you think you understand and it's causing problems for everything built upon that concept.  Make an appointment w/ your prof during their office hours.  That's his/her job.  Believe it or not, most of us in the education field are in it because we WANT to teach.  If we wanted to just collect a paycheck, we would do much better in the private sector.  Its always easier to blame the instructor, but unless the entire class doesn't understand something, its usually on you.  No employer wants to hear you shift the blame.  Own up and work on your weaknesses - thats what employers want.

I'm not shifting the blame whatsoever... That's the reason it's depressing to me: it's all my fault.  (Although, I will note that I had to drop my Pre-calculus course with the same teacher, then took Trig with a different teacher and passed extremely easily.  I would have gotten a different teacher for Calc II, but he's the only one that teaches the course...)

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Don't compare yourself to others.  Each of you have different backgrounds, initial learning bases, and different aptitudes, beyond that, as shitty as this may sound - you are not going to be the best at what you do, and the wider your exposure to people you are going to find more and more people who are better than than you at what you do; myself included.  You have to learn to accept that.

For sure...  My background consists of a family of dropouts, and, as much as I love them, they really did absolutely nothing to help me become a good student throughout all of my schooling, and I really resent them for it.  I didn't start to enjoy school until I enroll and college, and basically had to learn how to be a student from scratch, and I'm still learning, obviously.

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As for your GPA, if you're still early enough into your schooling to change majors, you definately have time to improve it.  Very few people graduate with a 4.0.  There is a reason the average grade is considered a C (with grade inflation its more like a B now but that's another story), and that's because you don't have to know everything to be successful.  If everyone was given A's, the reputation of your school would quickly fall to shambles because an employer would have a hard time separating the grain for the chaff.  Most people don't graduate Cum Laude or better from college, and guess what?  They still become gainfully employed.

I've already taken 53 credit hours so far, but I still haven't gotten my Associate's.  I had already changed my majors once, from Graphic Design to Engi.  But the reason this was a concern for me is because, from what I've read, engineering is a profession that puts a primary emphasis on GPA for entry-level positions, and that your GPA follows you throughout your entire career, unlike many other professions.  I've read horror stories of those that have graduated with 2.5-2.9 GPAs.

Just don't do Accounting. Trust me.

I'm 2 years into a double degree of Accounting/Banking and Finance, and while Finance is actually pretty interesting and full of useful life-skills (amortized loans, share portfolios etc), the Accounting is so in depth in terms of recording and amending obscure internal company reports, it will have absolutely no use whatsoever unless I become an accountant which isn't going to happen, so at that point I lose all enthusiasm for study or doing well. Not sure if I should just tough it out (and risk it bringing down my GPA) or drop it, having effectively wasted all that money on those units.

I've been working on my 2-year degree for 3 years now due to having switched majors, and I'm not sure if I can afford to switch Accounting and then switch to something else if I don't enjoy it.  I'll certainly have to think about it... I'll probably be 5 years in before I even get my Associate's, then at least another two years for Bachelor's.  So probably 7 years in total.  Sad.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on September 24, 2010, 07:05:10 PM
Taking a semester off is a terrible idea.  Its going to raise red flags for any future employer.  They'll find someone who survived the frying pan, not someone who got cooked.


I agree about the criticism thing, but have to disagree here.

If somebody needs a semester off, it's much better to take it than to stay in school when you can't handle it and then fuck up. A withdrawal on your transcript looks better than a failure... and potential employers do not look at your transcript anyway; they look at your resume. I withdrew from a semester of undergrad and then took the next semester off. I still got into almost every grad school I applied to. They didn't care about time off because my grades were still good and I have my shit together now, even if I didn't in 2004... and employers in the future are not going to even know I took time off, so that's completely irrelevant.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Pyroph on September 24, 2010, 08:35:58 PM
You're in psychology, right Jackie? How strenuous was the process of applying for grad school? I don't think I can get in, my GPA's too low, but insight would be cool.

I'm a junior now (undergrad) and this semester I started working in the lab on a few pretty fun studies. I also began working, and I think I may have put too much on my schedule... failed one of my first tests and did merely okay in another. I'm still really unsure of what I want to do in my career. My parents are pretty clueless on the whole college thing, so it's been pretty stressful managing it sometimes.

I don't have many friends, and I pretty much talk to them online (one lives back at home, and the other goes to my school but doesn't do much but play WoW, yay... we don't even hang out IRL, I know, it's fucking weird). I've always had trouble opening up to people, and like Arcaeus said above, I can get in moods where I latch onto stupid things about people and hate them for it. I've always been aversive to obnoxious people, and I think it's been ingrained into my head. Alcohol has never appealed to me, and the mass reverence that it gets just irritates me now. Most of the people that live in my dorm are the typical drunk business guy so it's hard to relate.

/rant
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Cecilia on September 25, 2010, 04:22:34 PM
On Monday, I moved from my parents' house in NY to be with my boyfriend in Las Vegas.

I have no family, no dogs (had to leave my two dachshunds at home), and no friends here. My boyfriend went back to work on Thursdays, so I'm alone from when he leaves at 7:30am-6:30pm (when he gets home).

I don't have a car, I don't know where the hell I am (though I know where Target is), and I'm freaking lonely.

I'm happy to be here, but I'm really homesick. I miss my family.  :'(
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on September 25, 2010, 05:12:11 PM
On Monday, I moved from my parents' house in NY to be with my boyfriend in Las Vegas.

I have no family, no dogs (had to leave my two dachshunds at home), and no friends here. My boyfriend went back to work on Thursdays, so I'm alone from when he leaves at 7:30am-6:30pm (when he gets home).

I don't have a car, I don't know where the hell I am (though I know where Target is), and I'm freaking lonely.

I'm happy to be here, but I'm really homesick. I miss my family.  :'(

See if you can get yourself into some hobby classes, or are you planning on going to work.

I've picked up and moved to places where I knew no body and I made it fine over time, you just have to force yourself to get out.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: icysk8r on September 25, 2010, 05:52:27 PM
Still here.  Haven't left. Not even for a minute.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Cecilia on September 25, 2010, 06:14:07 PM
See if you can get yourself into some hobby classes, or are you planning on going to work.

I've picked up and moved to places where I knew no body and I made it fine over time, you just have to force yourself to get out.

I'm looking for a job, but the unemployment rate here is high. Also waiting for my NV driver's license to come in the mail, maybe next week. Also have no money because I'm waiting for my bank card, and my checks will take one week to clear. Argh so frustrating and upsetting that I can't do anything yet.
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Marvellous G on September 30, 2010, 02:14:37 PM
Get ready for a long rant which you should all tl;dr, I just need to get it off my chest.

My family is seriously dysfunctional. Not in the traditional sense of course, we're really well off and we have everything we could possibly want, my parents are great to me and my sister and they've never been unfair or done anything to hurt us.

BUT, psychologically, we just do not mesh. My mum's obsessed with pointing out how much 'work' she's done when she's just at home all day doing chores that other housewives do all day without a word about it, and we're all forced to bite our tongues because any mention of this would probably earn us the most enormous character assassination of all time. Which, by the way, happen constantly to me and my sister due to the most arbitrary of reasons. Last week my mum called me a little shit for politely asking her not to sit and stare at me while I baked a cake for my Ethics homework.

Now, this will sound like the typical 'I'm always in the right' teenager, but here it's really not. I admit in the past I've been in the wrong more often than not, but in the last few months I've made sure that I'm constantly objectively assessing what I'm saying in these all-too-frequent family WARS, and to make sure that what I say is actually very reasonable and mature if relayed to a third party. This hasn't worked.

For instance, take my 20 year old sister, who is now theoretically an adult and only staying here until she goes back to Cambridge on Saturday. My mum just told me that we were probably going to have her boyfriend's entire family round to stay at our house by the sea (see, we're privileged, I'm not denying that) and I replied, incredibly calmly, 'I'd rather not be there, that would be a bit awkward.'

And boom. My sister explodes. Seriously, this has turned into her and my mum tag teaming me while I sit there calmly and am told how ungenerous a person I am. Of course, this is all being yelled at me while I sit there and take it for fear of a worse reprisal than I'm already enduring. Then my sister goes to her room and I go to mine, and, just like always, my mum comes up and tearfully tells me to apologise. Now, despite the fact I genuinely feel that I've done nothing worth apologising for here, I go into my sister's room and say 'I'm genuinely really sorry about what I said, I didn't mean it like that.' She glares at me and I go back to my room and begin to listen to my Depressed playlist for the waytoomanyth time. Then my mum comes in ten minutes later and tells me to apologise. 'What?' I say. 'I already said an apology that I genuinely meant!' (hmm, maybe not true there, but it seemed true at the time) 'Then why is she crying?!' My mum says, emotionally blackmailing me into a second pointless apology. Which I do, again, but my sister goes 'WHY ARE YOU SORRY?!' and it goes on like this with me just leaving and saying 'I REALLY DIDN'T MEAN IT TO OFFEND YOU, I JUST THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE AWKWARD.' Of course, I am a horrific monstrosity of a person by now.

Anyway I'm rambling. Long story short here, I'm now upstairs CRYING for the first time in ages, not just laughs at it like a real man would, playing along to Buying New Soul. My sister's crying and probably bitching about me to her friend/boyfriend next door, and my mum's crying because she just came in and I told her that I hated how this always happened and despite my numerous reassurances to the contrary, she thinks it's her fault and she's a terrible mother.

And what's worst is that I feel guilty for it. One of my best friend's dad is insane and hit his mum, and refuses to get a divorce, etc and this friend NEVER whines. I whine all the time, and my situations infinitely better. Maybe it's just the equivalent of depression guilt, but it's not fair on him or anyone else to whine about this when there's nothing really wrong except me overanalysing our personalities and dwelling on it.

tl;dr, I'm a lot lot lot happier at school than at home. Rant over.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on October 03, 2010, 04:04:10 PM
I kind of understand your situation on a much smaller level, Marvellous G.

Are you in high school? If you are, then the only advice I can really give is that soon you are going to have an escape via college. Until then, just do what you can to keep your family calm.

Myself, I am currently feeling a bit down. Nothing serious, but enough I feel I want to write about it.

Basically, my freshman year in college I roomed with a friend from high school. Loved him, hated living with him. Swell guy, but we were too different to stay together.

So last year I took a job working at my dorm where I would have a room to myself and it would be all paid for. Seemed logical considering my first experience with a roommate left a foul taste in my mouth, and without free lodging, I would have to take out loans for school.

Kills two birds with one stone, I thought.

A year and change later, and suddenly living by myself has become an absolute bummer. On days like today where everyone I know is stuck in their apartments/houses doing homework, there is no one to hang out with and the result is I have to be by myself all day. For example, this morning I texted five friends about hanging out at some point this afternoon, and none of them could for completely legitimate reasons.

I would like to maybe just go to their places and study with them or something, but I don't have transportation either. And I've asked them for transportation so many times I have started to develop a paranoia about asking, even though I know they don't really give a shit.

In a nutshell: Feeling a little lonely lately. And right now I'm not really sure what I can do about it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on October 04, 2010, 05:06:51 PM
Have you ever written an amazing paper?  That one that you started weeks in advance, that you poured late nights into, that you sacrificed social obligations, showers, and even other homework for?  The one your best friend reads and says is an A paper?



Yeah, I got a B- on it. :sadpanda:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: LCArenas on October 04, 2010, 07:23:02 PM
tl;dr I've failed a lot these days. Just needed to get that off my chest.

Sometimes I wonder if the me from 1 year or two years ago would be quite dissappointed if he saw what I am today. Same my family and my friends from two years ago. People has just given up on me, sometimes even myself. "Yeah, I guess barely passing an exam is okay". "Yeah, He's pretty much of a douche, but at least he helps me with english homeworks". "I guess he'll never stop being that way". "Yeah, he broke my heart, but what the fuck". "Yeah, he's pretty much distant those days. Well, he misses it". "If he wants to do that with his life, let him be". "I'm going to lose the semester anyway". "People hate me anyway". "Y'know, it was different when he was younger, he was the pride and joy. Well, I guess time changes". "I'm not telling him what's okay or not okay about him anymore". "Well, he can't win them all".



I WON them all before. Fuck I did. That's what you call fall from grace, I guess. Seems like I'm still circling the drain of mediocrity and be a really promising contestant for disappointment of the Year.








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Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Dr. DTVT on October 21, 2010, 11:33:38 PM
I don't expect anyone to say anything that's going to help, but I messed up day and I'm not coping with it well right now and I can't sleep.

On my way home today I witnessed a car accident on a highway exit ramp, happened at about 55 mph.  Basically, some kid was driving like a maniac and hit the car infront of him, flipping it airborn in the process and almost sending it over a barrier (if it goes over the jersey wall, it drops about 30 feet onto an enterence ramp).  I get out to check on the flipped car that has the roof over the front seat caved in, driver is unconscious, approx 10 year old kid in back seat is bleeding from the head and has a glazed look...asshole driver kid barely has a scratch and watches me and another person check the other car, and yells, "Anyone going to check on me?"  The other driver gets the kid out - we think the kid had a pretty bad concussion.  I finally get the driver to acknowledge me, and after I told her she was upside down in car and that we got her kid out, she tells me she can't feel or mover her extremities.  I've watched enough football to know that at that point not to move her, and about that time the first police officer and ambulance arrives.  I inform them of the situation, and when more medics come the officer puts the driver in his back seat and asks me to meet him in the nearby strip mall for my version of the events.

That was the first time I ever seen someone seriously hurt to the point I was worried about them actually dying, I felt so helpless not being able to do more for the young mother, and worse still I realize how close that was to my car being flipped...and all because someone else had no regard for anyone other than himself.  Stuff like this just gets to me and I can't stop thinking about it.  Unfortunately writing it out didn't seem to help much either.  Oh well, no point in not posting it now.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on October 22, 2010, 04:45:14 AM
Wow, that's pretty heavy, but try not to worry, you did a great job.  Not moving her was definitely the right thing to do, she couldn't feel anything so a spinal was apparent, moving her could have possibly killed her.

It's always the assholes that walk away from these situation.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: FuglyDave on October 22, 2010, 06:14:04 AM
Myself, I'm more pissed off then anything with the world. I live with my buddies family for low rent and such. Don't get me wrong, 80$ every two weeks is beautiful. The people are much less so. I've nothing wrong with my buddy, save that sometimes his arguments are excessively loud. And he's a weeaboo who doesn't enjoy my game tastes. =P However, his brother and parents are another matter altogether.

Brother: The child is completely dependent on another living being supporting him. He cannot cook anything that requires effort to make (Exception being Kraft Dinner, but if that's effort for anyone..), nor will he drink anything but juice/soda/etc. He is excessively loud and more often then not lounges around in the house in his boxers, openly playing or 'scratching' his crotch. As of the start of September, there has not been a single week he has attended a full school period, usually complaining about passing out or nosebleeds and such. Of course, these 'symptoms' mysteriously vanish the moment he walks in the door and touches the PS3. I have effectively been stopped from telling him anything negative as his parents have asked me 'not to antagonize' him. Which, in basis, means I cannot tell him no or tell him he's doing really stupid things. Which he does. Often. As well as the fact that should you say 'no', he becomes extremely pissy and seems to believe he is entitled to subject in question. Like my money. I share a room with this child of seventeen. Often, I'm forced out of it for his best friend and the thin, bony creature of fifteen that he calls his girlfriend. That he shares with his best friend. That isn't a joke.

Father: He believes that Free MMO's defeat any basis of paid game and will argue such with the force of a thousand suns. Usually it wouldn't bother me, but should you make any comment on a paid MMO (IE. WoW), he will rant and rave about how they've stolen so many ideas from others when you were simply saying "Hey, they upped the graphics." Other then that sort of thing, my only issue is his extremely empty threats towards the above son, often saying he won't be making allowance or having his 'girlfriend' over if he doesn't do what he's told. Only to roll over and allow it just to shut him up.

Mother: Loud, Self-Righteous, extremely hypocritical. More often then not treats the above husband like a servant. Will argue with any person until she becomes near violent and you are forced to let her win for fear she'll explode and stab someone. Believes that acting like a complete and utter pain in the @$$ is being 'perceptive'. Is a Pagan, and more often then not raises this for no reason other then for attention from what I gather. Has force me to be with her child in one room due to the fact that she wanted to turn my basement room into a gym that she has yet to live. It has been three months. Often brings friends into the home, in which case, there are no other voices permitted save their own. Should you speak, you will be met with something along the lines of "Can you shut the hell up, man!? GOD."

I don't mean to b*tch, but I've been needing to vent that for a long while. Easy place to live in. But gods be damned if the urge to punch someone hasn't arisen.

TL;DR:

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Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on October 22, 2010, 08:13:30 AM
I don't expect anyone to say anything that's going to help, but I messed up day and I'm not coping with it well right now and I can't sleep.

On my way home today I witnessed a car accident on a highway exit ramp, happened at about 55 mph.  Basically, some kid was driving like a maniac and hit the car infront of him, flipping it airborn in the process and almost sending it over a barrier (if it goes over the jersey wall, it drops about 30 feet onto an enterence ramp).  I get out to check on the flipped car that has the roof over the front seat caved in, driver is unconscious, approx 10 year old kid in back seat is bleeding from the head and has a glazed look...asshole driver kid barely has a scratch and watches me and another person check the other car, and yells, "Anyone going to check on me?"  The other driver gets the kid out - we think the kid had a pretty bad concussion.  I finally get the driver to acknowledge me, and after I told her she was upside down in car and that we got her kid out, she tells me she can't feel or mover her extremities.  I've watched enough football to know that at that point not to move her, and about that time the first police officer and ambulance arrives.  I inform them of the situation, and when more medics come the officer puts the driver in his back seat and asks me to meet him in the nearby strip mall for my version of the events.

That was the first time I ever seen someone seriously hurt to the point I was worried about them actually dying, I felt so helpless not being able to do more for the young mother, and worse still I realize how close that was to my car being flipped...and all because someone else had no regard for anyone other than himself.  Stuff like this just gets to me and I can't stop thinking about it.  Unfortunately writing it out didn't seem to help much either.  Oh well, no point in not posting it now.

Jesus, that's terrible  :(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on October 22, 2010, 08:26:39 AM
I would have been in shock.
Just from speaking to the people.
The ten year old....wow.....
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Tick on October 22, 2010, 08:40:15 AM
I don't expect anyone to say anything that's going to help, but I messed up day and I'm not coping with it well right now and I can't sleep.

On my way home today I witnessed a car accident on a highway exit ramp, happened at about 55 mph.  Basically, some kid was driving like a maniac and hit the car infront of him, flipping it airborn in the process and almost sending it over a barrier (if it goes over the jersey wall, it drops about 30 feet onto an enterence ramp).  I get out to check on the flipped car that has the roof over the front seat caved in, driver is unconscious, approx 10 year old kid in back seat is bleeding from the head and has a glazed look...asshole driver kid barely has a scratch and watches me and another person check the other car, and yells, "Anyone going to check on me?"  The other driver gets the kid out - we think the kid had a pretty bad concussion.  I finally get the driver to acknowledge me, and after I told her she was upside down in car and that we got her kid out, she tells me she can't feel or mover her extremities.  I've watched enough football to know that at that point not to move her, and about that time the first police officer and ambulance arrives.  I inform them of the situation, and when more medics come the officer puts the driver in his back seat and asks me to meet him in the nearby strip mall for my version of the events.

That was the first time I ever seen someone seriously hurt to the point I was worried about them actually dying, I felt so helpless not being able to do more for the young mother, and worse still I realize how close that was to my car being flipped...and all because someone else had no regard for anyone other than himself.  Stuff like this just gets to me and I can't stop thinking about it.  Unfortunately writing it out didn't seem to help much either.  Oh well, no point in not posting it now.
This makes me so angry! It seems everyday some idiot is driving 90 miles an hour weaving in and out of traffic. It makes my blood boil! What a horrible thing you witnessed. I'm sorry.

A few weeks back, my wife came home from work crying and white as a ghost. When I asked her what happened she told me some kid was driving like a maniac at like 100mph and lost control of his vehicle and crashed at high speed straight into the guard rail. She was crying and praying he was ok. I kind of felt, fuck him! One less asshole to kill some innocent people, like women and children. Call me cold, but I have no sympathy for the guy. It got what he deserved.
For the record, he lived, and was barely injured.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on October 25, 2010, 10:46:01 PM
I feel like I am wasting my fucking time being stressed out as FUCK in grad school. Yeah, I need the degree in order to do what I want, but I feel like this is not the way I should be living, always anxious and losing sleep over irrelevant bullshit. I want to be enjoying my life now, not putting shit on hold over and over again. I am doing a lot of things I enjoy, but I'm also freaking out writing papers and having to do group projects with stubborn-ass people who make decisions without consulting others. I'm not digging the curriculum right now and I am paying a LOT of money to be here. The program is not what I feel like it should be, and that makes me angry. I'm completely overwhelmed. Tony is coming to visit Wednesday and all I want to do is have everything done before he gets here but I am just so goddamn tired.

This sucks.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on October 25, 2010, 10:52:20 PM
Don't worry, 2010 is the shittiest year in the history of the world.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on October 25, 2010, 10:59:58 PM
Until 2011 comes :neverusethis:


Nah, most of 2010 was okay for me but now I just don't want to be here anymore. I feel like I'm jumping out of my skin in class and I dread doing these damn assignments. I used to like school and now I want to scream whenever I think about it. I dunno :(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ħ on October 26, 2010, 03:56:35 AM
I feel like I am wasting my fucking time being stressed out as FUCK in grad school. Yeah, I need the degree in order to do what I want, but I feel like this is not the way I should be living, always anxious and losing sleep over irrelevant bullshit. I want to be enjoying my life now, not putting shit on hold over and over again. I am doing a lot of things I enjoy, but I'm also freaking out writing papers and having to do group projects with stubborn-ass people who make decisions without consulting others. I'm not digging the curriculum right now and I am paying a LOT of money to be here. The program is not what I feel like it should be, and that makes me angry. I'm completely overwhelmed. Tony is coming to visit Wednesday and all I want to do is have everything done before he gets here but I am just so goddamn tired.

This sucks.

Don't worry.  Hard work now always pays off.  Sure, these next few years might suck....but think about all the years ahead that are gonna be so much easier since you'll be racking in the dough, not to mention reach a new level of respect with people.  Keep your eye on the prize.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on October 26, 2010, 08:34:03 AM
Well, in my case the "prize" is just having an MSW and being able to do certain jobs/making more money, but I will not be raking in much dough as a social worker. Just have tens of thousands of dollars in loans to look forward to paying off  :\

But yeah, I totally get what you're saying and I keep trying to think that way, but I just feel so apathetic about school and I still have a few weeks and two more quarters to go... and then I think what if something bad happened to me tomorrow or next week and I was busy stressing out about some bullshit assignment instead of enjoying my life?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MajorMatt on October 26, 2010, 04:49:05 PM
Don't worry, 2010 is the shittiest year in the history of the world.

Amen to that!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Marvellous G on November 01, 2010, 02:14:07 PM
So, I have really really bad acne. My parents 'asked' me if I wanted to see a doctor a few months ago and I started taking antibiotics, which haven't worked at all. Over dinner my dad did his obliviously offensive 'have you actually been taking your antibiotics? They're looking pretty bad.' So now I'm gonna go to the doctor again (against my wishes) and get some stronger stuff for them. I don't think my parents realise how self conscious of my acne I am, so it's hard not to act too offended when they ask insensitively phrased stuff like that. I just want them to go away which I'm hoping will happen with age, but apparently not.

tl;dr acne sucks.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on November 01, 2010, 03:33:44 PM
Yeah, I'm sure we all have our battles with acne. Mine was only bad for my sophomore year of high school, but I still have fights with it. I haven't been completely acne free at any point, but I find that the old towel on the pillow trick works pretty well. Pillows are greasy places.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on November 02, 2010, 06:39:31 PM
So, I have really really bad acne. My parents 'asked' me if I wanted to see a doctor a few months ago and I started taking antibiotics, which haven't worked at all. Over dinner my dad did his obliviously offensive 'have you actually been taking your antibiotics? They're looking pretty bad.' So now I'm gonna go to the doctor again (against my wishes) and get some stronger stuff for them. I don't think my parents realise how self conscious of my acne I am, so it's hard not to act too offended when they ask insensitively phrased stuff like that. I just want them to go away which I'm hoping will happen with age, but apparently not.

tl;dr acne sucks.

Sorry to hear about that man. I hope it gets better as soon as possible.

On another note, my sister calls me a couple of hours ago and she is in tears. "Come home! Come home!" Apparently my Dad just got mad at her and now she is hurt beyond belief.

To put it in perspective: My sister has no self confidence. Don't get me wrong. I am nowhere near where I want to be in that department. If my ultimate goal is to be a 10/10 confident, right now I am only at about a 7. Long ways to go. But at least I am able to stick up for myself and reason when things are going badly.

Not her. I call my parents up. My Dad says all he did was raise his voice a little because her grades have dipped by almost 10% across the board. He kills himself working 12 hour days so he can pay for her to go to private school because it's the only good school in town, and she never studies. Now she might not get into the colleges she wants. My mom confirms his side.

Clearly she is in the wrong, but it still gets me. How the hell can a person have so little confidence as to have a legitimate criticism - by her incredibly, legitimately caring parents - told to her, and then break down into mush? Like, I can't even understand her over the phone. She says she doesn't know what to do when the solution is so damn obvious: instead of only studying 0 hours a day, study 1.

I just feel horrible for her. Whatever the cause, unless she toughens up a little, she's screwed. Like... She is just so damn frail. And even after like an hour and a half of basically kissing her ass, telling her how well she has done and all the potential she has and that all she needs to do is work a little harder, she's still crying like a baby.

tl;dr - Sister has confidence issues and it frightens me to think about her when she goes to college
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Pyroph on November 02, 2010, 06:56:29 PM
So, I have really really bad acne. My parents 'asked' me if I wanted to see a doctor a few months ago and I started taking antibiotics, which haven't worked at all. Over dinner my dad did his obliviously offensive 'have you actually been taking your antibiotics? They're looking pretty bad.' So now I'm gonna go to the doctor again (against my wishes) and get some stronger stuff for them. I don't think my parents realise how self conscious of my acne I am, so it's hard not to act too offended when they ask insensitively phrased stuff like that. I just want them to go away which I'm hoping will happen with age, but apparently not.

tl;dr acne sucks.
I've been there. Still have acne, and even at the beginning of the semester it wasn't too good. I've been on proactive, clearasil, prescribed stuff, you name it. Nothing seemed to work. I never understood why I had it either. I've always ate well and been health conscious (I haven't had pop regularly in years, never eat/skip dessert) and I'm not overweight (I get by by walking all over campus and doing lots of situps everyday, other than that nothing).

I'm not sure what I'm doing right now, but what I do: Benzaclin at night (benzoyl peroxide). I was on this stuff before and it didn't seem to help, but I find that if I put it on the worst areas it dries them up pretty well.

I also found this magical stuff:

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I really like this stuff because it acts as a moisturizer to combat the Benzaclin so my face doesn't dry out as well as having salicylic acid. I make sure to put this on after my shower in the morning through the day. (besides helping with the acne, it seems to dull it out and make my face look better)

Also, I took the advice of TOX (:tup) and use a different towel every night on my pillow. Other than that I make sure to drink a lot of water and eat healthy by avoiding bad food. I know it sucks to hear stuff like this that sounds so obvious, as it frustrated me when I seemed to be doing this with no luck. Hopefully your acne gets better, I know it sucks. It had completely killed my confidence.

here's me now:

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Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dr. DTVT on November 03, 2010, 03:41:44 PM

tl;dr - Sister has confidence issues and it frightens me to think about her when she goes to college

I read the whole post...just snipped it for space sake.

I know where you are coming from.  My sister was such a mess when she was in high school (I was an undergrad matching her class standing), I really thought there was no way she'd be a productive adult, and I was worried she would become a slut because she went through shitty boyfriends constantly.  Now she's been married for over 3 years to a great guy, had a really good job before she had her baby, and turned out perfectly fine.

Things tend to work themselves out, and people tend to figure things out in life.  It sucks to watch it happen from a distance, but you just have to let things take their course.
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Post by: MajorMatt on November 04, 2010, 02:48:17 PM
FML.

That is all.
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Post by: Ħ on November 04, 2010, 10:51:17 PM
FML.

That is all.

  :(

Talk to us.  What happened?
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Post by: Cecilia on November 04, 2010, 11:10:12 PM
Yeah so the next time I have a stupid idea like giving up everything and moving across the country, remind me not to do it.

My boyfriend and I got into yet another fight, and he's not sleeping at our apartment, he's sleeping at his parents'! I wish that when we fought I could run away to my parents, but they live in NY. I hate when he's all talking about the past (we met 8 years ago on MP.com), how things aren't the same anymore and blah blah blah. Of course things aren't the same, it was 8 years ago!

Guess what, tomorrow is my birthday! I can't wait for even more drama!
 
>:( :'(
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Post by: bout to crash on November 04, 2010, 11:51:27 PM
Wait, when did you move across the country?? That sucks :(
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Post by: sonatafanica on November 04, 2010, 11:55:43 PM
I believe she moved to Las Vegas not too long ago, if memory serves me well.

And gosh, that's rough. I hope things sort out well.
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Post by: Cecilia on November 05, 2010, 12:05:47 AM
Yeah I moved on September 20th. Pretty effing crazy


Thanks
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Post by: Marvellous G on November 05, 2010, 12:49:13 PM
Crap, hope things turn out better for you tomorrow.  :-\

Just general depression creeping back for the first time in a while, for no real reason.  :sad:
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Post by: dethklok09 on November 06, 2010, 05:23:13 PM
i feel i just expect way to much from myself. everything i do i feel i have to be perfect or im just complete shit. i often think about quitting music because im not as good as chris broderick or john petrucci for example. i also am at the bottom of the social ladder at high school (almost the bottom). i have very few friends, whom i rarely even talk to. i just dont know if they are befriending me cause they are sorry for me, or that they are just trying to make fun of me to show off to all the "cool kids". i also believe that my mind is just playing tricks on me. That they arent even trying to befriend me and im just being creepy by simply talking to them. because of this i rarely ever even say anything. i also only had one girlfriend who originally was pretty good looking but i lost interest in her and just wanted to be friends. she stopped eating and went into depression (made me feel like shit). it made a huge scene at my school, and now people dont even trust me. i tried asking a girl out afterward but couldnt find the words to say so i looked like a major creeper and was rejected. now i am afraid to even approach women at all. i feel like im in a hole and there is no way to get out. i doubt any of you give a shit but i just needed to vent
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Post by: lonestar on November 06, 2010, 07:16:31 PM
Just show some patience and endure.  High school is the deepest pit of hell, and it gets better once it's over.  As long as you are true to yourself and treat others well, at least you will have the pride of doing it with honor and grace.  Good luck.
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Post by: Kura on November 06, 2010, 08:53:41 PM
i feel i just expect way to much from myself. everything i do i feel i have to be perfect or im just complete shit. i often think about quitting music because im not as good as chris broderick or john petrucci for example. i also am at the bottom of the social ladder at high school (almost the bottom). i have very few friends, whom i rarely even talk to. i just dont know if they are befriending me cause they are sorry for me, or that they are just trying to make fun of me to show off to all the "cool kids". i also believe that my mind is just playing tricks on me. That they arent even trying to befriend me and im just being creepy by simply talking to them. because of this i rarely ever even say anything. i also only had one girlfriend who originally was pretty good looking but i lost interest in her and just wanted to be friends. she stopped eating and went into depression (made me feel like shit). it made a huge scene at my school, and now people dont even trust me. i tried asking a girl out afterward but couldnt find the words to say so i looked like a major creeper and was rejected. now i am afraid to even approach women at all. i feel like im in a hole and there is no way to get out. i doubt any of you give a shit but i just needed to vent

First of all.. I feel like you should take a deep breath and focus on one thing at a time. Set yourself a schedule. Obviously the guys from DT are amazing because they practiced just about every single freaking day! So do that! And keep doing it until you ARE perfect. Why would you want to quit something you're passionate about? Don't take the easy way out. Put in the hard work and keep going!

Next.. stop giving a crap so much about what others might think of you. If your friends include you and you have fun hanging out with them.. then keep doing it. If you're not having fun, then you need to change your friends :C.. you wont feel good about yourself if your friends put you down. They become more like bullies than friends.

And listen. Don't blame yourself for what OTHER people do. You ARE in a hole right now because you need to build confidence in yourself. And that doesn't start in the women department. That's why I said you need to concentrate on one thing at a time and everything else will fall in place. Start with learning that it's OK to make mistakes with your music. You're not a machine, you're a person. And ENJOY what you do. Enjoy your music and stop worrying about it needing to be perfect because that will stifle your creativity.
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Post by: Marvellous G on November 07, 2010, 12:01:10 PM
I have a feeling I'm going to like Kura's posts here.
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Post by: Rina on November 07, 2010, 05:09:41 PM
I'm getting severly depressed. I seriously don't want to get up in the morning. No one in my life seems to care at all.

(Also, Kura is awesome and I agree with Marvellous G.)
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Post by: Ħ on November 07, 2010, 05:43:49 PM
I'm getting severly depressed. I seriously don't want to get up in the morning. No one in my life seems to care at all.

(Also, Kura is awesome and I agree with Marvellous G.)
:omg:  Don't say that...I'm not sure who you think doesn't care, but that mindset will only hurt your depression...I know that we're a bunch of silly internet people, but we care!  You are always encouraging to us when we're down--just browse through the last couple pages of this thread and you'll see.  You've got a gift of compassion that is very much appreciated here, and I'm sure is appreciated by others in your life.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: carl320 on November 07, 2010, 06:24:15 PM
I've been wanting to post in this thread for a while, but never thought my feelings were important enough to share.

Lately I've been pretty depressed.  I've felt disconnected for most of my life, even more so in the last several years since I moved to my current town.  I try to rationalize that I can change things to make things better, but haven't felt like it would be worth it.  Then I feel even worse because I feel like I should be happy to change but don't.

 :|
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Post by: blackngold29 on November 23, 2010, 10:15:10 PM
Two semesters ago I was in a really weird frame of mind. I was always pissed off, listened to a lot of loud and violent music, didn’t talk to anybody I didn’t have to, never went out after classes, and pretty much hated everyone. I also completed every homework assignment ASAP, wrote the best papers of my life, and got six A’s (which is the most classes that they allow you to take.)

That drive has decreased since then. I don’t know why. I don’t care about any of my classes, none of them are fun, and I cannot find a source of motivation (not earning a degree, not that I have to pay for the classes I’m taking, not the mystery source that came out of nowhere two semesters ago). I think I’m in the right major, but don’t have a real good idea of what I want to do for a living.

At that same point where everything started going downhill I met a girl. I’m convinced that she was attracted to something in me, but didn’t like me enough to get into a relationship. I can’t blame her for that, sometimes you just don’t like people like that. Fortunately we’ve held onto our friendship. My attraction to her, however, hasn’t died. We’re both away at college and talk online sometimes. She sends me mixed signals.

Like most people in high school I would have a crush on a girl, but then move on every so often. I have literally not met anyone else in the past year that I’ve been interested in. It’s so hard to mentally readjust how I feel about her because there’s no one else. And I already feel screwed up enough, it might not turn out so well if I diminish the positive force she is in my life, as that hope that her feelings could change still exists.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ħ on November 24, 2010, 07:22:25 AM
If you really like her that way, I wouldn't give up just cause you are apart.  I know the world has all sorts of long-distance relationship rules, but if you haven't been attracted to anyone since her, maybe it's a sign that she's the one.
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Post by: Rina on November 25, 2010, 10:06:39 PM
I'm feeling really depressed right now. No one seems to give a crap about me ('cept Volk) and I'm panicking over this car issue. The Pharmacy I'm supposed to train at is constantly blowing me off so there's no chance I'll pass the exam to be Pharmacy Tech, so there's no way I can do that now. I have zero money and my family life is crap. My friends are awful and I'm constantly in pain, I'm just seriously done with everything.
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Post by: Jakartabassplayer on December 29, 2010, 05:37:48 AM
I'm not a person who usually needs to vent or tell people what's going on with my state of mind.
but I'm currently in a personal situation which is just too much for me.
I'll start out by saying that I fall in love too quick. there's always some girl that I'm crazy about.
But this time it's different. It started out a few months ago when I found out that I was starting to have strong feelings for a girl I know. As a normal person would do, I wouldn't ignore these feelings and go for it to put it that way. After a while it was getting clear for her that I had feelings for her. From her and some of her friends I got the idea that she also felt this way about me. So I was planning to make "the" move. I was going to make this move at party of a good friend. But when I was at this party everything seemed to be different. She was totally not interested in me. I accepted this and went on with the party. but just a few moments later I see her making out with a friend of mine. Obviously I was bummed out big time. but I also accepted this. And I always succeed with just moving on in this kind of situations. I'm used to it.
But yet this time I can't move on. Every second I think about her. I can't read, watch or do something without thinking about her. and these thoughts about her kind of hurt me deeply. I just don't know what to do.

Thanks for taking the time to read this.
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Post by: King Postwhore on December 29, 2010, 05:45:02 AM
My mom is in the hospital.  She had her lung drained and it colapsed on her and now she has blood clots also.  She has lung cancer.  They also found to spots on her brain.  I feel helpless, but I going to be strong for her.
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Post by: Jakartabassplayer on December 29, 2010, 05:55:16 AM
My mom is in the hospital.  She had her lung drained and it colapsed on her and now she has blood clots also.  She has lung cancer.  They also found to spots on her brain.  I feel helpless, but I going to be strong for her.
I wish you lots of strength.
She'll be in our prayers.
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Post by: ZBomber on December 29, 2010, 08:24:00 PM
My mom is in the hospital.  She had her lung drained and it colapsed on her and now she has blood clots also.  She has lung cancer.  They also found to spots on her brain.  I feel helpless, but I going to be strong for her.

Really sorry to hear that kings... you and your family are in my thoughts. :(
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Post by: 73109 on December 29, 2010, 08:24:35 PM
Same here dude. We are all here for you.
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Post by: King Postwhore on December 29, 2010, 08:27:01 PM
Thanks guys.  It's been hard the last few weeks.  We're on a holding patern right now until they fix the lung and the blood clots.  Plus losing my job of 12+ years is adding to my anxiety.
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Post by: Tick on December 29, 2010, 08:36:02 PM
Thanks guys.  It's been hard the last few weeks.  We're on a holding patern right now until they fix the lung and the blood clots.  Plus losing my job of 12+ years is adding to my anxiety.
So sorry King.
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Post by: Ravenheart on December 30, 2010, 02:39:24 AM
I have a lot of self-value and self-esteem issues. I think a lot of it was brought about my an extremely manipulative, emotionally abusive mother who molested me as a kid, but she THOUGHT she was doing the right thing with all the bullshit she polluted my life with. I've made improvements after she went nuts and left the house way back in the summer of '09.

I still feel all of the effects at times, though. I have major trust issues. I lack confidence. I'm terrified of girls--well, I should say, terrified of asking girls out. But I used to be scared of simply talking to them, because I apparently had "difficulty talking to people of the opposite sex," according to dear old Mommy. Sometimes my depression takes over and stops me from doing anything I'm trying to focus on.

I love writing, and it helps me cope a little. But I need to be in a completely clear state of mind if I actually want to write something good that I'll enjoy. Listening to music is probably better for me, since it doesn't require as much output from me. Sometimes, these are the only things that keep me from killing myself like I've tried on several occasions.

But it's not to say I have a miserable life. Living without my mom is the best thing that ever happened to me. I have a group of friends, comprised of girls and guys, that I regularly hang out with. I'm 30, 000 pages into my novel. Life's not so bad.

tl;dr lolsup? I don't think I've ever been in here, but this is my life in a nutshell: life's a bitch and life's an angel.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: blackngold29 on January 10, 2011, 10:58:09 PM
So what do you do when you're bipolar and the bottom drops out? It's like a switch, one minute I'm watching a great BCS football game, playing some X-box and the next the Colts (on the Xbox) throw a TD pass and even though it's still close and plenty of time to come back it's just pure anger.
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Post by: sonatafanica on January 16, 2011, 09:38:15 PM
I just typed out a five paragraph post, backspaced all of it, then decided it would be best to go the road of "keep that shit to yourself, no one gives a fuck."

Because making another long post on DTF is something I definitely do not need to keep doing, if only to prove I'm not as much of a pathetic asshole as I appear.
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Post by: Ħ on January 16, 2011, 09:41:31 PM
Very depressed lately...been sleeping about 12 hours/day...missed a couple classes....blahhhhh life is dumb.
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Post by: MetalManiac666 on January 16, 2011, 10:09:19 PM
I just typed out a five paragraph post, backspaced all of it, then decided it would be best to go the road of "keep that shit to yourself, no one gives a fuck."

Because making another long post on DTF is something I definitely do not need to keep doing, if only to prove I'm not as much of a pathetic asshole as I appear.

Hey man, if we didn't want to read that shit we wouldn't come into this thread.  Not to mention the fact that I don't think anyone here thinks you're a pathetic asshole.
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Post by: Ħ on January 17, 2011, 08:27:22 PM
hey kings, any news on your mom?
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Post by: oh8wrx on January 25, 2011, 11:23:19 AM
I'm not sure if anyone has ever experienced this or had the same sort of visual but I went through a stage of depression (never diagnosed but after talking with my friend who is a psychiatrist, she said i pretty much was) in Oct 09-Jan 10. 

When I think back now to those months, the only picture that pops up to my head is of a calendar with those months.  No other months, just those and they are like scribbled out in a charcoal gray...like it was my decent to darkness.  I know it probably sounds weird, but has anyone ever had that mental visual or something similar?
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Post by: CountVoorhees on January 25, 2011, 11:29:43 AM
Yeah, but it wasn't a calendar, just images of things from that era but with a blurry black hole taking up most of the image.
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Post by: oh8wrx on January 25, 2011, 11:32:07 AM
i've also recently been going thru this debate inside my head of wanting to do drugs to escape reality but then i talk myself out of it.  i've not done drugs or pills but i get this craving, i want to and this darkness just takes over and i have to fight it.  it's like all of the positive aspects in my life is a facade for this dark...thing...that i have inside me.  and everything that is wrong just adds to it, feeds it.
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Post by: ZBomber on January 25, 2011, 11:34:16 AM
i've also recently been going thru this debate inside my head of wanting to do drugs to escape reality but then i talk myself out of it.  i've not done drugs or pills but i get this craving, i want to and this darkness just takes over and i have to fight it.  it's like all of the positive aspects in my life is a facade for this dark...thing...that i have inside me.  and everything that is wrong just adds to it, feeds it.

Pretty generic answer, but never do drugs to escape from something. Not only will it not solve the problem you have, it will just make that problem even worse and just add a whole new series of things to be depressed about.
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Post by: CountVoorhees on January 25, 2011, 11:34:56 AM
Sounds like you have a Dark Passenger.
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Post by: oh8wrx on January 25, 2011, 11:37:36 AM
i was close to using that term but didnt want to go Dexter on anyone...but yes, just about.
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Post by: CountVoorhees on January 25, 2011, 11:54:54 AM
Yeah, you got the reference!
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Post by: sonatafanica on January 31, 2011, 09:48:57 PM
edit: nope
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Post by: Gorille85 on January 31, 2011, 09:59:34 PM
edit: nope

What's going on?
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Post by: sonatafanica on January 31, 2011, 10:06:24 PM
Oh, nothing, that edited post was just two sentences of nonsense that I clicked the post button on before I had time to think about it.

It's just that  I get depressed and cathartic at this time of night and I'd rather not call too much attention to myself, it's kind of pathetic.

At least I have a family history of mental imbalance to blame it on.
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Post by: Gorille85 on February 08, 2011, 09:49:47 PM
I'm feeling quite down these days and I feel like I don't have anyone to talk too. :(
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Post by: tri.ad on February 09, 2011, 01:44:10 AM
... but you have us. Granted, we're probably not as good as a real person to talk to, but it's still something, right?
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Post by: Zantera on February 09, 2011, 02:59:27 AM
I wouldn't call it depressed, but I sometimes feel like there's something "missing", in order to make life really good.
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Post by: Quadrochosis on February 09, 2011, 06:37:18 AM
I've been going in and out of some weird form of depression lately, not really too sure why, but it's certainly helped me become a bit better as a lyrical/music writer, so I guess I can't really complain.

I think a lot of it is due to the fact that over the past year my world view has changed a lot, and almost all of my optimism is lost for the future, so I don't really think its depression as much as it is just getting used to the "new me". (If that makes any sense.)

But then again no one probably cares (and I shouldn't expect anyone to)
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Post by: Marvellous G on March 19, 2011, 02:59:50 PM
I've been going in and out of some weird form of depression lately, not really too sure why, but it's certainly helped me become a bit better as a lyrical/music writer, so I guess I can't really complain.

I think a lot of it is due to the fact that over the past year my world view has changed a lot, and almost all of my optimism is lost for the future, so I don't really think its depression as much as it is just getting used to the "new me". (If that makes any sense.)

But then again no one probably cares (and I shouldn't expect anyone to)

That sounds pretty normal, it might not be depression but just so many new things in your life, that make you feel so different that you could mistake it for that. I wouldn't worry if it's not bothering you too much, but if it still is, then vent in here, broseidon.

As for me, I'm getting kind of worried. I'd like to preface this rant by saying that I hate it when people are diagnosed with stuff such as OCD and depression, and then essentially revel in it, so I'm not doing that here, just observing the signs.

Basically, I'm a pretty OCD person in general, and always have been. I don't just mean checking stuff routinely, I mean the whole shebang, like getting out of bed ten times in a row and readjusting a piece of paper on the other side of the room until it's 'just right,' checking my pockets evero 20 seconds (literally) when I'm out, clicking lights on and off until I get the 'just right' feeling, etc. I'd sort of tried to ignore this as much as possible, but it's been getting pretty bad recently.

Right, part two. I have pretty bad acne, but I'd always wondered why it was so much worse than other people's. I always picked at my spots, but I thought that was at least a little normal, until I discovered this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dermatillomania That describes exactly how I feel in relation to spots (not the arms and legs stuff, thank God) but I also pick my lips until they bleed, despite knowing full well how bad it is for me. I just feel like I have to have my hands occupied (haha masturbation joke) constantly or I instinctively start picking my lips or face, and it's getting to an almost unbearable point. Finally, there's the whole depression relation thing, which is apparently pretty strong in OCD people, so basically I'm a bit worried that all of this will continue to get worse and I'll end up an insane, rambling mess.

tl;dr: Should I see a doctor about this?
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Post by: dethklok09 on March 19, 2011, 03:36:04 PM
Not really depressed (not sure). I just have no motivation. I'm lost in my own thoughts whenever doing something and am constantly just loosing things, not doing something right etc.. I thought maybe if I'm hanging out with friends more that things might get better but it just isnt. Things just seem to be piling up as for work i should do. But I just have no motivation to do any of it. /end of wahwahwah internet story.
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Post by: ricky on March 19, 2011, 05:31:06 PM
have no fear, ricksta's got y'alls back.

things get tough, but remember, there's always someone out there that has it worse.

i watch the tsunami on tv, and see all those that have passed away, or have lost everything, and suddenly my problems don't seem that bad.

i'm not saying you all aren't having a rough time (and i got your back),but all i'm saying is that you gotta be happy with what ya got, TRUST ME.
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Post by: ZBomber on March 19, 2011, 05:34:02 PM
OK, I'll trust ya Ricky!
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Post by: Marvellous G on March 19, 2011, 05:38:02 PM
That was actually a pretty good ricky post.

Not that I don't respek all of them, but that one in particular was actually fair enough.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Rina on March 19, 2011, 10:36:42 PM
I've been pretty down lately. Lots of annoying health issues (nothing hospital-serious though, so I'm grateful for that), and lots of money issues and stuff like that. Just getting really depressing.  :sadpanda:   But then, like mentioned, there's the people in Japan who lost everything so I feel bad about complaining.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Rafael Guerra on March 19, 2011, 10:55:22 PM
I've been going in and out of some weird form of depression lately, not really too sure why, but it's certainly helped me become a bit better as a lyrical/music writer, so I guess I can't really complain.

I think a lot of it is due to the fact that over the past year my world view has changed a lot, and almost all of my optimism is lost for the future, so I don't really think its depression as much as it is just getting used to the "new me". (If that makes any sense.)

But then again no one probably cares (and I shouldn't expect anyone to)

That sounds pretty normal, it might not be depression but just so many new things in your life, that make you feel so different that you could mistake it for that. I wouldn't worry if it's not bothering you too much, but if it still is, then vent in here, broseidon.

As for me, I'm getting kind of worried. I'd like to preface this rant by saying that I hate it when people are diagnosed with stuff such as OCD and depression, and then essentially revel in it, so I'm not doing that here, just observing the signs.

Basically, I'm a pretty OCD person in general, and always have been. I don't just mean checking stuff routinely, I mean the whole shebang, like getting out of bed ten times in a row and readjusting a piece of paper on the other side of the room until it's 'just right,' checking my pockets evero 20 seconds (literally) when I'm out, clicking lights on and off until I get the 'just right' feeling, etc. I'd sort of tried to ignore this as much as possible, but it's been getting pretty bad recently.

Right, part two. I have pretty bad acne, but I'd always wondered why it was so much worse than other people's. I always picked at my spots, but I thought that was at least a little normal, until I discovered this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dermatillomania That describes exactly how I feel in relation to spots (not the arms and legs stuff, thank God) but I also pick my lips until they bleed, despite knowing full well how bad it is for me. I just feel like I have to have my hands occupied (haha masturbation joke) constantly or I instinctively start picking my lips or face, and it's getting to an almost unbearable point. Finally, there's the whole depression relation thing, which is apparently pretty strong in OCD people, so basically I'm a bit worried that all of this will continue to get worse and I'll end up an insane, rambling mess.

tl;dr: Should I see a doctor about this?
You might find helpful to see a dermatologist. He might recommend you a lotion or something like that. Acne is probably very annoying and painful too, if you have that mania. Just one thing that I wanted to tell from your post, and correct me if I am wrong, but have you actually being diagnosed with OCD? Let me explain.

OCD is common, that's true. But it's also not hard to treat and MANY people think they have OCD when they actually don't. Unlike other disorders such as bipolar disorder or schizophrenia, OCD does not cause physical symptoms (or at least most forms of it) and you can beat it using your emotional intelligence. For example, try ONLY switching off the lights ONCE, or maybe challenge yourself to wash your hand only before you eat. Will this bother you at that moment? YES. Will you feel good after overcoming it? YES. You will notice that these events do not have an impact on your life or luck. You control them, and not the other way around it.

As for the whole picking problem, this is a matter of releasing energy. You need to release this energy, your fingers need to be moving (either picking on the pocket or the skin). Since you need to release this energy, you just need to find OTHER ways to release it. Maybe get one of those cheap stress balls, playing with a rubber or band or some other silly thing that won't impact your physical state.

This post is coming from someone who overcame a non-diagnosed OCD without any treatment or medical help whatsover. Stay away from the meds unless it's completely necessary. Hope this helps you.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Rafael Guerra on March 19, 2011, 11:01:27 PM
I think a lot of it is due to the fact that over the past year my world view has changed a lot, and almost all of my optimism is lost for the future, so I don't really think its depression as much as it is just getting used to the "new me". (If that makes any sense.)
What if you randomly find a winner lottery ticket in the streets? It's actually serious. Doors open everyday and you can't predict what's gonna happen tomorrow. You don't have to be overly-optimistic, in fact, it's great to be down-to-earth in our modern society, but this should not prevent you from having goals or dreams. Tell your "new you" to get a software update  :)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Rafael Guerra on March 19, 2011, 11:05:53 PM
But yet this time I can't move on. Every second I think about her. I can't read, watch or do something without thinking about her. and these thoughts about her kind of hurt me deeply. I just don't know what to do.
If your mind is imprisoned, you need to release it. This involves change. Don't read the same thing or watch the same channel. Go to a new place and find a new activity. Also, if "relationship" problems are frequent for you, you should consider finding a different form of passion that will hold your interest in the long run, maybe start a website, little business, play a sport, learn an instrument, write a book, etc.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MetalManiac666 on March 19, 2011, 11:07:10 PM
You can quote multiple people in one post you know.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Marvellous G on March 20, 2011, 12:37:22 PM
I've been going in and out of some weird form of depression lately, not really too sure why, but it's certainly helped me become a bit better as a lyrical/music writer, so I guess I can't really complain.

I think a lot of it is due to the fact that over the past year my world view has changed a lot, and almost all of my optimism is lost for the future, so I don't really think its depression as much as it is just getting used to the "new me". (If that makes any sense.)

But then again no one probably cares (and I shouldn't expect anyone to)

That sounds pretty normal, it might not be depression but just so many new things in your life, that make you feel so different that you could mistake it for that. I wouldn't worry if it's not bothering you too much, but if it still is, then vent in here, broseidon.

As for me, I'm getting kind of worried. I'd like to preface this rant by saying that I hate it when people are diagnosed with stuff such as OCD and depression, and then essentially revel in it, so I'm not doing that here, just observing the signs.

Basically, I'm a pretty OCD person in general, and always have been. I don't just mean checking stuff routinely, I mean the whole shebang, like getting out of bed ten times in a row and readjusting a piece of paper on the other side of the room until it's 'just right,' checking my pockets evero 20 seconds (literally) when I'm out, clicking lights on and off until I get the 'just right' feeling, etc. I'd sort of tried to ignore this as much as possible, but it's been getting pretty bad recently.

Right, part two. I have pretty bad acne, but I'd always wondered why it was so much worse than other people's. I always picked at my spots, but I thought that was at least a little normal, until I discovered this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dermatillomania That describes exactly how I feel in relation to spots (not the arms and legs stuff, thank God) but I also pick my lips until they bleed, despite knowing full well how bad it is for me. I just feel like I have to have my hands occupied (haha masturbation joke) constantly or I instinctively start picking my lips or face, and it's getting to an almost unbearable point. Finally, there's the whole depression relation thing, which is apparently pretty strong in OCD people, so basically I'm a bit worried that all of this will continue to get worse and I'll end up an insane, rambling mess.

tl;dr: Should I see a doctor about this?
You might find helpful to see a dermatologist. He might recommend you a lotion or something like that. Acne is probably very annoying and painful too, if you have that mania. Just one thing that I wanted to tell from your post, and correct me if I am wrong, but have you actually being diagnosed with OCD? Let me explain.

OCD is common, that's true. But it's also not hard to treat and MANY people think they have OCD when they actually don't. Unlike other disorders such as bipolar disorder or schizophrenia, OCD does not cause physical symptoms (or at least most forms of it) and you can beat it using your emotional intelligence. For example, try ONLY switching off the lights ONCE, or maybe challenge yourself to wash your hand only before you eat. Will this bother you at that moment? YES. Will you feel good after overcoming it? YES. You will notice that these events do not have an impact on your life or luck. You control them, and not the other way around it.

As for the whole picking problem, this is a matter of releasing energy. You need to release this energy, your fingers need to be moving (either picking on the pocket or the skin). Since you need to release this energy, you just need to find OTHER ways to release it. Maybe get one of those cheap stress balls, playing with a rubber or band or some other silly thing that won't impact your physical state.

This post is coming from someone who overcame a non-diagnosed OCD without any treatment or medical help whatsover. Stay away from the meds unless it's completely necessary. Hope this helps you.

I haven't been diagnosed, which is why I'm thinking it could well be mainly in my head and I'm blowing it out of all proportion. That's all extremely good advice though, so thanks. I guess I'll try just not giving in to the compulsions, but it's just so difficult not to, I feel like I can't move on with my day until I do. Although I guess I would feel way better afterwards. And the stress ball idea is a really good one; I feel like I use guitar a lot of the time just to keep my hands occupied, so a stress ball is probably a great idea. Thanks very much for the great advice!  :D
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dublagent66 on March 21, 2011, 08:23:07 AM
I don't think I can go one single day without someone pissing me off.   >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: dethklok09 on March 21, 2011, 04:00:52 PM
I'm fucking pissed off. I cant seem to keep my mind focused on simple and daily tasks, and constantly make elementary, and embarassing mistakes. I fucking keep losing everything also.  :censored >:(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: True Death of Life on March 21, 2011, 04:18:45 PM
***STEREOTYPICAL TEEN WARNING***


My parents are fucking up my life...my dad especially. I know that they just want to help me, and I truly appreciate that--I really do--but now I'm involuntarily involved in so much drama (mostly having to do with teachers) that I didn't even know was forming in the first place.

It's as if my parents can't stand to see me fail...because next to my older brother, I suck at everything. For example, I got a 76% on my chem test that I was very happy about--and my mom went, "Is that...good?" At least it's better than the "you're not trying enough" lectures I used to get. So yeah, they're trying...but really, I just can't TAKE shit anymore.


Yeah, that rant had absolutely no structure at all. Ah well. Life goes on.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on March 21, 2011, 04:28:01 PM
I don't think I can go one single day without someone pissing me off.   >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
I'm fucking pissed off. I cant seem to keep my mind focused on simple and daily tasks, and constantly make elementary, and embarassing mistakes. I fucking keep losing everything also.  :censored >:(

You guys are not alone!  :(

I hate everything at the moment, and I'm just worn out.  I've worked non stop for years and I've finally cracked.  I had a blowout a few days ago at work and since then I don't want to be here.  I'm not productive, I hate everyone and I just want out.

PS: I'm at work right now!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: nightmare_cinema on March 21, 2011, 06:05:07 PM
Haven't been on this forum in ages, had so much going on. Definitely in the depressed thread kinda mood right now.

Everything's sh*t right now! I watched my mum suffer with alcoholism and a whole range of health problems that stemmed from that since summer 2008, acting like her parent, putting up with lying, and seeing my amazing lovely mum go from the woman who brought me up and taught me so much, to a person so thin she couldn't stand up or walk, discharging herself from hospital every time she got admitted and going straight back to drinking vodka after promising she wouldn't. Eventually she got so sick she couldn't lift a bottle, and finally got admitted to hospital at the beginning of December 2010, the same day I was hospitalised for an overdose on painkillers to relieve a persisten, undiagnosable chronic pain condition. A few weeks later she got pnemonia from some of her feeding tube stuff going into her lungs, then was taken into intensive care, put on an oxygen mask (against her will) and given chance to respond to the antibiotics. She couldn't, she was too weak, four days later her organs had started to pack in, her skin swell up and she didn't wake up much, they thought she could be brain damaged from lack of oxygen. So they took the oxygen mask away, she lived another 25 hours and died the day before Christmas day. I was on my way there when she took her final breath, after days of mega stints at the hospital sleeping on a sofa in the relatives room. One week later, New Year's Eve, we held the funeral, I gave the eulogy... it was hard. I saw her get ill, I saw her die, I saw her body a few times, organised the funeral, and went to the grave a few times since... it didn't feel real for a while, and now it feel so sickeningly real that I feel like I've been punched in the stomach every time something reminds me of her... she's always in my mind and heart, I'm crying nearly every day, I don't believe in an afterlife and it rips my heart to FUCKING SHREDS thinking about how I'm never gonna speak to her, hold her, talk to her, tell her anything ever again, how she isn't gona be there for the big things in my life, etc. She went through SO much, more than I'd wish on my worst enemy, I can't stop thinking of what she went through and how much I'd give to take it away, though I know I tried my best. Keep thinking how she'd have felt if she knew a few years ago that she was going to be dead by Christmas 2010, it wouldn't have made a difference, the hospital and myself told her she was killing herself, but she was unhelpable. Now I just keep replaying the worst of it over and over, replayin our last conversation (her hallucinating), pinning her hands to the bed so she didn't pull her oxygen away ('it's inhumane to restrain'), seeing my brother break down repeatedly, seeing him sat at the side of the bed with his hand on hers once she'd died. Just everything, it's so intense, and I'm coping but.. not so well! Just sat in the dark, I'm up in four hours... listening to the start of something beautiful, thinking things over. It's been twelve weeks, I feel like I'm not getting over it fast enough, everyone kept telling me how I'm dealing with it amazingly and they couldn't do it but I'm not. Been signed off work a month with depression and chronic pain, I keep getting sick (painful urinary tract infections every couple of weeks), and have been on a bad cocktail of drugs trying to find something to ease the pain (morphine, ketamine, tramadol, pregabalin, gabapentin... it's a dangerous game but when the pain's that bad I don't care).

And I'm on the verge of losing my job because of all the sick periods I've had with the infections. Hellooooo depressed thread :\ Just needed to rant...
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: nightmare_cinema on March 21, 2011, 06:12:12 PM
And you know what else... my brother insisted on a burial, not cremation. So now I know where she is, that she's still in existence so to speak, she's about a 20 minute drive away.. so I'm always thinking about how I'm here, she's there six feet under, I know what she's wearing, what's in the coffin and I'm wondering a lot about what kinda state of decomposition she's in now. The whole death and funeral thing is so weird and theoretical at times but the logistical physical aspects are hurting a lot. I'm not the first person in the world to lose someone they love, but it's the first person I've lost who I've loved.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on March 21, 2011, 06:24:21 PM
*snip*

This is really one of the most awfully detailed things I have ever read, and I must admit I found it hard to stomach my way through it.  All I can really offer would be to only suggest being careful with the whole drug thing that you mentioned.  I'm fairly certain she wouldn't want you putting yourself in too much danger for her sake, though it is perfectly understandable at the time being, so just try to be safe enough with it.  I've never lost a loved one, but I've never read anything that brought me so close to it before, and I really just hope that things work out for you. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: nightmare_cinema on March 21, 2011, 06:28:04 PM
Thanks, I'm really sorry if it hurt to read, I dunno if it's TMI... but it's like, people hear I lost my mum... that's all they know, so it just sounds like something everyone goes through, she coulda been really old for all they know, it coulda been peaceful and so forth. But they don't know the actual nightmare the past few years was and how bad it's been! the drug thing isn't recreational for fun, it's all prescribed medication, I've just been a little bit reckless with the mixing and dosage to try and find pain relief, I'm the last person who'd do hard drugs for fun, trust me.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ZBomber on March 21, 2011, 06:43:14 PM
Haven't been on this forum in ages, had so much going on. Definitely in the depressed thread kinda mood right now.
...

:( *hug*

Hang in there! Don't try and force yourself to get over it, take as much time as you need. I know you have a job and all that, but your mental and physical health is more important at the moment.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: AcidLameLTE on March 21, 2011, 06:43:28 PM
Wow. I'm really sorry to hear that.

I can't imagine what that's like :/

I'm not very good at these things so I all I can really say is that I hope things get better for you soon.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on March 21, 2011, 06:58:17 PM
Thanks, I'm really sorry if it hurt to read, I dunno if it's TMI... but it's like, people hear I lost my mum... that's all they know, so it just sounds like something everyone goes through, she coulda been really old for all they know, it coulda been peaceful and so forth. But they don't know the actual nightmare the past few years was and how bad it's been! the drug thing isn't recreational for fun, it's all prescribed medication, I've just been a little bit reckless with the mixing and dosage to try and find pain relief, I'm the last person who'd do hard drugs for fun, trust me.

No, I wasn't suggesting drugs for fun at all!  I was just warning you to be careful with them, and if they help you cope with what you're dealing with then they are probably a good thing.  I should probably go now, I've never dealt with something on this level and I probably have no place here, so I'll just offer the usual naive bit of advice and say that you should definitely take time to let it all settle and don't rush into recovery. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ravenheart on March 21, 2011, 06:59:56 PM
Wow, well, I don't really know what to say. I was going to say I empathize with dealing with an alcoholic mother, but that was before I read everything else  :-\

All I can really suggest, though this may sound pretty trivial, is to relieve the pain in the healthiest ways possible. Drugs don't heal; they only numb the senses. Try talking to someone, or even vent it all out here. I find venting can really help when you're on the brink of breaking down.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: nightmare_cinema on March 21, 2011, 07:02:21 PM
Aye I'm being careful :) trying out other stuff too like acupuncture. Been on different drugs for a couple of years anywho. I didn't mean to sound like i jumped down your throat with that, dtismajesty.

Thanks guys. I wish I could get some sleep but I keep thinking lots of thoughts. Funnily enough I'm up super early to do a course on working with drug and alcohol abusers in prisons... been wanting to do it for a while and am about halfway through now, it's voluntary but I hope it'll lead onto a proper full time job soon so I can escape my terrible current job and do something good, that's definitely something positive to hold onto at least.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ravenheart on March 21, 2011, 07:05:26 PM
I know this may sound terribly cliche, but if you have a million reasons to be miserable and only one to be happy, then hold onto that one little reason and embrace it every second.

I hope everything works out alright. It sounds like you already have your priorities well known and and what it is you intend on doing with your life. That's better than about 98% of people out there right now..
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: nightmare_cinema on March 21, 2011, 07:06:27 PM
Wow, well, I don't really know what to say. I was going to say I empathize with dealing with an alcoholic mother, but that was before I read everything else  :-\

All I can really suggest, though this may sound pretty trivial, is to relieve the pain in the healthiest ways possible. Drugs don't heal; they only numb the senses. Try talking to someone, or even vent it all out here. I find venting can really help when you're on the brink of breaking down.

Thanks... yeah that makes sense. I don't drink, and I don't take drugs for fun. My way of releasing is to talk about it to friends, and to listen to lots and lots of music, generally sad music. I had road salt by PoS on repeat on my ipod while she was in intensive care for those few days and it really hurts to listen to it but i don't think that's a bad thing, it's probably cathartic, I don't believe in trying to avoid pain, it's best to go towards it and try get it all out before you can move on, I dunno how long that's gonna take!

I feel tortured wondering whether she knew she was dying and could understand what we were saying after they stopped giving her oxygen :( she may have had brain damage or may have been functioning fine mentally and just couldn't speak back to us... I gave up pretending things were going to be okay towards the end and spoke to her with the truth, how she probably knew by then that she was dying and how she shouldn't be scared and we were gonna be fine cos of how she brought us up etc. I know it was the right thing to do because I wouldn't wanna be bullshitted while I lay dying, but I still feel torn about how scared she must have been if she was lucid. Etc. ad infinitum... I'm like a broken record to my friends right now.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: nightmare_cinema on March 21, 2011, 07:07:50 PM
I know this may sound terribly cliche, but if you have a million reasons to be miserable and only one to be happy, then hold onto that one little reason and embrace it every second.

I hope everything works out alright. It sounds like you already have your priorities well known and and what it is you intend on doing with your life. That's better than about 98% of people out there right now..

It's worth trying to aim for, yes. I have the MOST amazing friends you could ever imagine, people that are there for me whenever I need them if I reached out to them, people who are supportive, know what to say, and make it clear they love me to pieces. I'm incredibly lucky in this regard and I never stop being thankful. I'm also constantly embracing the way music makes me feel!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ravenheart on March 21, 2011, 07:11:51 PM
Wow, well, I don't really know what to say. I was going to say I empathize with dealing with an alcoholic mother, but that was before I read everything else  :-\

All I can really suggest, though this may sound pretty trivial, is to relieve the pain in the healthiest ways possible. Drugs don't heal; they only numb the senses. Try talking to someone, or even vent it all out here. I find venting can really help when you're on the brink of breaking down.

Thanks... yeah that makes sense. I don't drink, and I don't take drugs for fun. My way of releasing is to talk about it to friends, and to listen to lots and lots of music, generally sad music. I had road salt by PoS on repeat on my ipod while she was in intensive care for those few days and it really hurts to listen to it but i don't think that's a bad thing, it's probably cathartic, I don't believe in trying to avoid pain, it's best to go towards it and try get it all out before you can move on, I dunno how long that's gonna take!

I feel tortured wondering whether she knew she was dying and could understand what we were saying after they stopped giving her oxygen :( she may have had brain damage or may have been functioning fine mentally and just couldn't speak back to us... I gave up pretending things were going to be okay towards the end and spoke to her with the truth, how she probably knew by then that she was dying and how she shouldn't be scared and we were gonna be fine cos of how she brought us up etc. I know it was the right thing to do because I wouldn't wanna be bullshitted while I lay dying, but I still feel torn about how scared she must have been if she was lucid. Etc. ad infinitum... I'm like a broken record to my friends right now.

I know this may sound terribly cliche, but if you have a million reasons to be miserable and only one to be happy, then hold onto that one little reason and embrace it every second.

I hope everything works out alright. It sounds like you already have your priorities well known and and what it is you intend on doing with your life. That's better than about 98% of people out there right now..

It's worth trying to aim for, yes. I have the MOST amazing friends you could ever imagine, people that are there for me whenever I need them if I reached out to them, people who are supportive, know what to say, and make it clear they love me to pieces. I'm incredibly lucky in this regard and I never stop being thankful. I'm also constantly embracing the way music makes me feel!
Music is a great anti-depressant. I actually find that depressing music helps me cheer up when I feel like shit, which is most of the time. I think knowing that someone out there, at least one point in time, felt down the way you did, kind of alleviates the emotional pain.

And it's great you have friends to vent to! Cherish that. Real friends are those who you can turn to at any time for anything. Most people may have a lot of acquaintances, maybe even close acquaintances, but friends are in a whole other league. The value of friendship is something a lot of people don't understand, sadly.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Jirpo on March 22, 2011, 06:51:46 AM
Well I know this isn't really that bad at all, I just finished school and I'm here at Uni. I can't seem to bring myself to study. I've always been one of the smartest in the class, even here at the best Uni in the state doing a hard degree I am one of the smartest, but I can't seem to find my focus and study and because of that I am not doing very well in one of my subjects. I just feel kinda hopeless, when I waste time I should be doing studying (something I have always done) I feel angry at myself and a little depressed. Is their anything I can do? I know this problem isn't really as bad as most peoples but its just something that I hate.

As for music, I get depressed by a lot of slow music when I'm feeling down, but when I'm happy I'm fine to listen to it. When I'm down I usually listen to something like Judas Priest - Painkiller or Metallica/Slayer.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on March 26, 2011, 12:28:39 AM
For the past year or so I've been stuck in this huge rut where I'm like, "life, throw some awesome stuff at me, I'm brave and I'm ready for anything" but instead I live the most boring existence ever, just wasting my youth stuck in my room.

The college I go to is not very big and is occupied by people who already have friends or just want to go to class and get it over with.

It just sucks because I'm really adventurous and I love to rise to every occasion I can, but there is nothing. I'm so fucking bored out of my mind all the time and there's nothing I can do about it. It would be awesome if I had some options, but I don't. My only option is to sit around and be a lame sap.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: dethklok09 on March 26, 2011, 12:31:30 AM
For the past year or so I've been stuck in this huge rut where I'm like, "life, throw some awesome stuff at me, I'm brave and I'm ready for anything" but instead I live the most boring existence ever, just wasting my youth stuck in my room.

The college I go to is not very big and is occupied by people who already have friends or just want to go to class and get it over with.

It just sucks because I'm really adventurous and I love to rise to every occasion I can, but there is nothing. I'm so fucking bored out of my mind all the time and there's nothing I can do about it. It would be awesome if I had some options, but I don't. My only option is to sit around and be a lame sap.
Is there any sports or teams you can join? Any interest in forming a musical group?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: xShammas on March 29, 2011, 03:12:54 PM
I've been depressed for about 6 years I want to say, and it's not fun. It started when my parents split up, and I've dealt with a lot of personal troubles since then. The thing that kept me sane is music. The most important thing in dealing with depression is having a close friend or family member that you can talk to. I go to my best friend a lot, and at times it feels like I'm a burden to him, but I know that it's not a problem and that's the key. Having a REAL friend, not just someone who claims to be is important. The one thing that made me feel better than anything else was a girl who I fell in love with (or thought I did, but who really knows?). After knowing what that feels like, that's really all I want in life now. In my opinion, money and material possessions will make you happy, but it's like a drug effect. It just pushes the bad feelings away, it doesn't get rid of them. You won't really be "happy". The thing that will make you truly happy is someone to love and care for, and who loves and cares for you.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ZBomber on March 29, 2011, 05:38:54 PM
For the past year or so I've been stuck in this huge rut where I'm like, "life, throw some awesome stuff at me, I'm brave and I'm ready for anything" but instead I live the most boring existence ever, just wasting my youth stuck in my room.

The college I go to is not very big and is occupied by people who already have friends or just want to go to class and get it over with.

It just sucks because I'm really adventurous and I love to rise to every occasion I can, but there is nothing. I'm so fucking bored out of my mind all the time and there's nothing I can do about it. It would be awesome if I had some options, but I don't. My only option is to sit around and be a lame sap.

Come up to my college in MA and we can tell each other amusing anecdotes.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on March 29, 2011, 06:01:24 PM
For the past year or so I've been stuck in this huge rut where I'm like, "life, throw some awesome stuff at me, I'm brave and I'm ready for anything" but instead I live the most boring existence ever, just wasting my youth stuck in my room.

The college I go to is not very big and is occupied by people who already have friends or just want to go to class and get it over with.

It just sucks because I'm really adventurous and I love to rise to every occasion I can, but there is nothing. I'm so fucking bored out of my mind all the time and there's nothing I can do about it. It would be awesome if I had some options, but I don't. My only option is to sit around and be a lame sap.

Unfortunately, I feel a lot like you do.  Well, not a whole lot.  I still have enough people and options to things with.  But I do kind of hate myself for keeping myself walled up in my room listening to music or writing or playing piano while there is a fucking beautiful world out there. 

I guess I actually have a world full of options in front of me and I'm too fucking lazy to take advantage of any of them.  As in, I love to take walks, but I avoid them for no real reason at all and tell myself that I'm using my time better by staying in here.  Fuck this room.  Fuck this comfortable shithole. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on March 29, 2011, 06:11:52 PM
I hear you.


I went to a book store today just to browse through all the graphic novels and get out of the house. It felt kind of good.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: dethklok09 on March 29, 2011, 08:06:37 PM
Fucking stressed about fundraising for my rowing team. I have to raise over a thousand dollars because my school doesnt do fucking shit. I know rowing doesn't make alot of income, no way in hell. But I believe some money can go to it. Of course our state is supposed to be getting a budget cut soon for school. There is one silver lining though, since the schoo HAS NOT PAYED ANYTHING WHATSOEVER they can't cut the sport. Other than that life is going o.k. for me I guess. I still feel haunted by this depression I am in and have absolutely no motivation for anything.
Edit: to add to my pathetic crybaby post. I've really been feeling about giving up my dreams to be an artist of any kind such as writing, drawing/painting, and music. I just feel that I am terrible at drawing/painting and o.k. at writing and music. It just seems like such a big risk, as much as I dont want to just give in I feel pressured I have to.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: nightmare_cinema on March 30, 2011, 05:55:24 AM
 :'( I found my long lost sister a couple of days ago, the person I knew existed but haven't been around since I was 1. She was in the local paper, just been given a four year prison sentence for arson... so now I gotta decide should I go try to establish contact with her, or let it go? Could be a whole new can of worms because she looks like a heroin addict/alcoholic at the least. I always thought I would try find her once my mum died but I didn't expect it to surface so quickly and easily!

I can't handle another addict in my life yet if that's the case, but on the other hand I'll always be wondering... what if? She's my sister, yet a woman I've never known and don't have a clue about. On one hand I want to get to know her, if she wants to, she seems like she is at such a low point in her life and I'm the kinda person who wants to be there for people. But personally I don't think I'm strong enough to deal with the consequences if they're bad, not atm. Thoughts?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: In The Name Of Rudess on March 30, 2011, 06:24:30 AM
In my opinion, money and material possessions will make you happy, but it's like a drug effect. It just pushes the bad feelings away, it doesn't get rid of them. You won't really be "happy". The thing that will make you truly happy is someone to love and care for, and who loves and cares for you.

That won´t make you happy either. Sure, it will for a while, but a romantic relationship does the same thing as money and material possessions. It just pushes the bad feelings away, it doesn´t get rid of them. Your thought is not so strange, because relationships are more effective in repressing your negative emotions than money. But in essence it´s the same thing. Romance pretends to fills our gaps, so we can feel loved, we feel needed. What´s more, if you only regard a partner as something to make you happy, things won´t work out too well. I´m not saying romantic relationships are bad, but you need to accept and be happy with yourself before you start a relationship. Otherwise you are just using the other person to make yourself feel better. If you have no love for yourself, how can you give love to others? Neediness doesn´t equal romance. Humans are per definition alone. Even if you´re in a relationship you´re still alone. Romance, money and material possessions are merely the cover-ups for this sense of fragmentation. Accept your aloneness, and be happy.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: nightmare_cinema on March 30, 2011, 06:30:33 AM
In my opinion, money and material possessions will make you happy, but it's like a drug effect. It just pushes the bad feelings away, it doesn't get rid of them. You won't really be "happy". The thing that will make you truly happy is someone to love and care for, and who loves and cares for you.

That won´t make you happy either. Sure, it will for a while, but a romantic relationship does the same thing as money and material possessions. It just pushes the bad feelings away, it doesn´t get rid of them. Your thought is not so strange, because relationships are more effective in repressing your negative emotions than money. But in essence it´s the same thing. Romance pretends to fills our gaps, so we can feel loved, we feel needed. What´s more, if you only regard a partner as something to make you happy, things won´t work out too well. I´m not saying romantic relationships are bad, but you need to accept and be happy with yourself before you start a relationship. Otherwise you are just using the other person to make yourself feel better. If you have no love for yourself, how can you give love to others? Neediness doesn´t equal romance. Humans are per definition alone. Even if you´re in a relationship you´re still alone. Romance, money and material possessions are merely the cover-ups for this sense of fragmentation. Accept your aloneness, and be happy.

I agree with this. You have to be happy alone, with yourself, and comfortable with your own company before you can be happy in a relationship. Balanced, healthy, fulfilling relationships add a degree of awesomeness to life but they won't make anybody happy, and if you're miserable and lonely to begin with a potential partner will sense that desparation and run a mile. It sounds crazy but the only thing that can make you happy is yourself, whatever situation you're in and whatever's going wrong, you can choose to be happy.. it will be fake and forced at first but you will eventually begin to feel the way you're acting, I reckon.

If you're sad alone without a relationship you should get some counselling or therapy to learn to be happy with your life. And don't forget, even once you do find reciprocated 'love', it can disappear in the blink of an eye, you can be left, cheated on, the person you thought you knew can turn out to be everything you despise in another human being, and if you've placed too much emphasis on what a partner will do for your life then breathed a sigh of relief once you have a partner you'll be left in an even worse state than you were to begin with.

That's not aimed at anyone just general thoughts..
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: xShammas on March 30, 2011, 11:34:56 AM
In my opinion, money and material possessions will make you happy, but it's like a drug effect. It just pushes the bad feelings away, it doesn't get rid of them. You won't really be "happy". The thing that will make you truly happy is someone to love and care for, and who loves and cares for you.

That won´t make you happy either. Sure, it will for a while, but a romantic relationship does the same thing as money and material possessions. It just pushes the bad feelings away, it doesn´t get rid of them. Your thought is not so strange, because relationships are more effective in repressing your negative emotions than money. But in essence it´s the same thing. Romance pretends to fills our gaps, so we can feel loved, we feel needed. What´s more, if you only regard a partner as something to make you happy, things won´t work out too well. I´m not saying romantic relationships are bad, but you need to accept and be happy with yourself before you start a relationship. Otherwise you are just using the other person to make yourself feel better. If you have no love for yourself, how can you give love to others? Neediness doesn´t equal romance. Humans are per definition alone. Even if you´re in a relationship you´re still alone. Romance, money and material possessions are merely the cover-ups for this sense of fragmentation. Accept your aloneness, and be happy.

I agree with this. You have to be happy alone, with yourself, and comfortable with your own company before you can be happy in a relationship. Balanced, healthy, fulfilling relationships add a degree of awesomeness to life but they won't make anybody happy, and if you're miserable and lonely to begin with a potential partner will sense that desparation and run a mile. It sounds crazy but the only thing that can make you happy is yourself, whatever situation you're in and whatever's going wrong, you can choose to be happy.. it will be fake and forced at first but you will eventually begin to feel the way you're acting, I reckon.

If you're sad alone without a relationship you should get some counselling or therapy to learn to be happy with your life. And don't forget, even once you do find reciprocated 'love', it can disappear in the blink of an eye, you can be left, cheated on, the person you thought you knew can turn out to be everything you despise in another human being, and if you've placed too much emphasis on what a partner will do for your life then breathed a sigh of relief once you have a partner you'll be left in an even worse state than you were to begin with.

That's not aimed at anyone just general thoughts..
Well I act happy and don't really show how I'm feeling a lot, but once I start getting close to someone, I can't hide it. I've been through a lot, I know we all have, and maybe I'm just going through a rough patch right now. But I don't really now what a rough patch is when it's like that all the time. You can't try and tell me that you would be just as happy without your boyfriend though. I just don't really know what I want or anything, there's a lot going on. I value personal relationships so much higher than money, and I can't ever imagine choosing that over a loved one. Of course it would be an exception if the person was preventing me from doing what I wanted, but in that case they wouldn't really love me.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: LCArenas on March 30, 2011, 12:01:31 PM
You lonely guys should be a little grateful that you depend on no one. Currently I have a distance relationship. Yeah, it's only for fools, it's just for losers, I know, whatever. She had to go and now she's studying far away in a distant city -And country- and we hoped that she could come back in October/December of this year. A lot of things happened and she finally was left to choose between finishing her career next year and then coming back here, or come back this year but finish her career later. She chose the obvious option (First one). Now it seems she won't come back until January 2013, and not even that is sure. I'm happy for her (For real) and I know I must not be selfish, she has a future to fulfill and dreams to accomplish, but GOD FUCKING DAMMIT FORGIVE ME, IT HURTS LIKE HELL. I'm starting to think that between now and that distant time (Can a man wait that much? Two years...) there will be only pain and suffering, and she will get tired of me, and dump me for some guy who actually can do something for her and be with her. I'm starting to think I'm just not that important. She has a life over there. Why would a piece of steaming shit like me be more important for her than her friends and interests she can actually hug, kiss, and make her laugh? I'm just tying her life up and tiring everything she does. I do nothing but bother her with my existentialist bullshit and with my complex personality. I'm a bum in her life, a fucking obstacle. And I don't know what can make me think otherwise. I love her. I know I'm too young to say that but fuck it. That's it... I love her and I'll wait for her, but I fear that she will find someone else who can make her happy, a gentleman who can show her how important she is physically, and not a hopeless and helpless idiot, an immature and worthless mere shell of a human being like me, that can't do anything for her because I'm far away.

I know I'm being a crybaby here, that I need to cheer up and face this shit like a real man. But I need to discharge this sorrow somewhere, in a place where people barely know who I am. A place where people will read... And where she won't.

So that's pretty much everything I have to say.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: nightmare_cinema on March 30, 2011, 12:08:51 PM
You can't try and tell me that you would be just as happy without your boyfriend though.

You know, now we're together, yes... being with him contributes to my happiness significantly. But I was just as happy before we got together, being single. I promise.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kura on March 30, 2011, 01:04:45 PM
:'( I found my long lost sister a couple of days ago, the person I knew existed but haven't been around since I was 1. She was in the local paper, just been given a four year prison sentence for arson... so now I gotta decide should I go try to establish contact with her, or let it go? Could be a whole new can of worms because she looks like a heroin addict/alcoholic at the least. I always thought I would try find her once my mum died but I didn't expect it to surface so quickly and easily!

I can't handle another addict in my life yet if that's the case, but on the other hand I'll always be wondering... what if? She's my sister, yet a woman I've never known and don't have a clue about. On one hand I want to get to know her, if she wants to, she seems like she is at such a low point in her life and I'm the kinda person who wants to be there for people. But personally I don't think I'm strong enough to deal with the consequences if they're bad, not atm. Thoughts?

I just read your longer post about your "rant" and I just want to say that I'm very sorry that you had to go through that. I personally think that you should not cut her out of your life, but this might seem like a bad time to go see her if you're still struggling with dealing with your mom and the feelings associated with that. I can see you're a strong person, but I think right now you have to be there for yourself and get yourself healthy and able to move on before you can help her. If anything right now she's in prison so she can't do any more damage to herself while you sort yourself out.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ZBomber on March 30, 2011, 01:09:55 PM
n_c, you got enough on your plate at the moment. You don't need to cut her out forever, but I think you need to take care of yourself at the moment. Not saying she is a bad person, but if she IS an addict she ill try to tale advantage of you, and... well, you shouldn't have to put up with that now.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kura on March 30, 2011, 01:14:28 PM
You lonely guys should be a little grateful that you depend on no one. Currently I have a distance relationship. Yeah, it's only for fools, it's just for losers, I know, whatever. She had to go and now she's studying far away in a distant city -And country- and we hoped that she could come back in October/December of this year. A lot of things happened and she finally was left to choose between finishing her career next year and then coming back here, or come back this year but finish her career later. She chose the obvious option (First one). Now it seems she won't come back until January 2013, and not even that is sure. I'm happy for her (For real) and I know I must not be selfish, she has a future to fulfill and dreams to accomplish, but GOD FUCKING DAMMIT FORGIVE ME, IT HURTS LIKE HELL. I'm starting to think that between now and that distant time (Can a man wait that much? Two years...) there will be only pain and suffering, and she will get tired of me, and dump me for some guy who actually can do something for her and be with her. I'm starting to think I'm just not that important. She has a life over there. Why would a piece of steaming shit like me be more important for her than her friends and interests she can actually hug, kiss, and make her laugh? I'm just tying her life up and tiring everything she does. I do nothing but bother her with my existentialist bullshit and with my complex personality. I'm a bum in her life, a fucking obstacle. And I don't know what can make me think otherwise. I love her. I know I'm too young to say that but fuck it. That's it... I love her and I'll wait for her, but I fear that she will find someone else who can make her happy, a gentleman who can show her how important she is physically, and not a hopeless and helpless idiot, an immature and worthless mere shell of a human being like me, that can't do anything for her because I'm far away.

I know I'm being a crybaby here, that I need to cheer up and face this shit like a real man. But I need to discharge this sorrow somewhere, in a place where people barely know who I am. A place where people will read... And where she won't.

So that's pretty much everything I have to say.

I'm in a long distance relationship, too, but I don't think you should regard yourself like that. Obviously if she's willing to wait to even have a hug or a kiss it means she loves you. She chose career because she needs to get herself established, obviously. I know I'd do the same thing (and I am doing the same thing) as I see no point trying to move into living with a guy and his parents with no money and no income. I would go out and DO things instead of sitting and dwelling on the "what if what if what if" stuff that she might or might not do. If she really liked sex and touching and all that so much she wouldn't have a long-distance relationship to begin with. Girls like that say "sorry we gotta break up" after highschool ends just because they'd be going to different colleges 30 minutes away >_> (30 minutes is not long-distance, people!!)

I don't know your situation, but why not try and find an (extra?) part time job so you can save up and see her for Christmas/new years of this year? I'm sure that would make her really happy!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: nightmare_cinema on March 30, 2011, 03:17:36 PM
I just read your longer post about your "rant" and I just want to say that I'm very sorry that you had to go through that. I personally think that you should not cut her out of your life, but this might seem like a bad time to go see her if you're still struggling with dealing with your mom and the feelings associated with that. I can see you're a strong person, but I think right now you have to be there for yourself and get yourself healthy and able to move on before you can help her. If anything right now she's in prison so she can't do any more damage to herself while you sort yourself out.

n_c, you got enough on your plate at the moment. You don't need to cut her out forever, but I think you need to take care of yourself at the moment. Not saying she is a bad person, but if she IS an addict she ill try to tale advantage of you, and... well, you shouldn't have to put up with that now.

Thanks for reading, guys. I think you're right, atm I'm leaning towards eventually making contact, but gonna give myself a year before I start trying. I do think I need to get myself straight first... I start a second bout of counselling/therapy tomorrow. The counsellor has no idea about what's been going on, first meeting, she'll probably ask what's up and I'll be like well... where do I start?! hehe. Plus a friend made a good point tonight, after a year in prison she'll be in a better place to hear from me than she is right now (she may hate me and not want to even talk... I feel okay about that possibility). Can't really risk leaving it much longer than a year though, with the British justice system you can be out in half of your given sentence if you behave and complete things on your sentence plan. But it's something to mull over until then :)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ravenheart on March 30, 2011, 03:19:51 PM
Every time I feel like I'm making progress, some little setback creeps up and reminds me that I haven't.

And it's exhausting to fake happiness to not be a nuisance to the people around me.

But I think I annoy mostly everyone I know anyway.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: nightmare_cinema on March 30, 2011, 03:21:45 PM
What makes you think you annoy everyone you know?

Regarding the constant little setbacks, I hear you there. I often wonder if it's just the whole getting older thing, once you leave your teens and enter into being a self sufficient adult it seems life is a torrent of shit slightly and occasionally mitigated by something good/awesome happening. And everyone just has to learn how to bat away the crap as it comes at you while forging forward and trying to be successful and happy. But maybe that's just me.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ravenheart on March 30, 2011, 03:25:46 PM
What makes you think you annoy everyone you know?

Regarding the constant little setbacks, I hear you there. I often wonder if it's just the whole getting older thing, once you leave your teens and enter into being a self sufficient adult it seems life is a torrent of shit slightly and occasionally mitigated by something good/awesome happening. And everyone just has to learn how to bat away the crap as it comes at you while forging forward and trying to be successful and happy. But maybe that's just me.
I don't now. I feel like I try too hard to fit in, or that people are constantly judging me and laughing about me behind my back.

It's silly, because I'm a lot more social these days than when I was in grade and middle school, where I was bullied all the time and had a lot of other issues. It should be easy to get over it, but I guess I hold myself back.

As for getting older, I hate the idea of aging. I don't feel like I'm done with being a teenager (18), and I feel like I still have so much to sort out before I live on my own. It scares me knowing that the only person that will be looking out for me is myself after I move out of here. My friends can keep me happy, but we're all mostly going to different colleges after graduation. And even if I form new ones in college, I still hate the idea of growing distant from everyone  :-\
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: nightmare_cinema on March 30, 2011, 03:29:46 PM
I know what you mean. Do you find it's different with different groups though? I don't get shy but I can feel pretty awkward in certain situations. But in others I'm in my element. Do you KNOW people are laughing about you behind your back? Sounds like the experiences you had in grade/middle school have kept a hold of you. Have you ever had counselling?

Sometimes being thrown into something you're not ready for is the best way to cope and mature... however cool your new friends will be, they'll almost never be as good as your original friends! The whole transition from teenager living at home to adult moving out is hard for most people, at least you know everyone else will be in the same boat...
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ravenheart on March 30, 2011, 03:35:30 PM
I know what you mean. Do you find it's different with different groups though? I don't get shy but I can feel pretty awkward in certain situations. But in others I'm in my element. Do you KNOW people are laughing about you behind your back? Sounds like the experiences you had in grade/middle school have kept a hold of you. Have you ever had counselling?

Sometimes being thrown into something you're not ready for is the best way to cope and mature... however cool your new friends will be, they'll almost never be as good as your original friends! The whole transition from teenager living at home to adult moving out is hard for most people, at least you know everyone else will be in the same boat...
I've taken a little bit of counseling, but it was mostly against my will and forced on me by my mother, who should honestly be locked up in an asylum. I'm not kidding or exaggerating.

I do think I've made a lot of progress, but it still holds me back sometimes. I can make pretty much anyone laugh by cracking a few sarcastic comments, but I still feel very insecure around people. But if I keep at it, I think I'll make more progress.

I've noticed I feel very desperate and insecure when I start getting feelings for a girl, even though I can hide it. lolniceguy

I'm glad I'm not alone in the fear of living on my own. I just laugh at kids my age who act like they can't wait for it, since most of them are extremely dysfunctional on their own.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: nightmare_cinema on March 30, 2011, 03:40:38 PM
I know what you mean. Do you find it's different with different groups though? I don't get shy but I can feel pretty awkward in certain situations. But in others I'm in my element. Do you KNOW people are laughing about you behind your back? Sounds like the experiences you had in grade/middle school have kept a hold of you. Have you ever had counselling?

Sometimes being thrown into something you're not ready for is the best way to cope and mature... however cool your new friends will be, they'll almost never be as good as your original friends! The whole transition from teenager living at home to adult moving out is hard for most people, at least you know everyone else will be in the same boat...
I've taken a little bit of counseling, but it was mostly against my will and forced on me by my mother, who should honestly be locked up in an asylum. I'm not kidding or exaggerating.

I do think I've made a lot of progress, but it still holds me back sometimes. I can make pretty much anyone laugh by cracking a few sarcastic comments, but I still feel very insecure around people. But if I keep at it, I think I'll make more progress.

I've noticed I feel very desperate and insecure when I start getting feelings for a girl, even though I can hide it. lolniceguy

I'm glad I'm not alone in the fear of living on my own. I just laugh at kids my age who act like they can't wait for it, since most of them are extremely dysfunctional on their own.

*hugs* were you the guy in the thread who said they could empathise with having an alcoholic mother?

Are you moving out and into college accommodation? Because if so, that's nothing like living on your own... you tend to have your finances sorted out for you, some places provide meals, you have people in a similar situation around you and know what your focus is for the next couple of years at least.

What scares you about living alone? Is it the practical stuff (the cooking, cleaning, washing stuff, getting up on time, being organised) or some other stuff?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on March 30, 2011, 03:42:58 PM
Ravenheart, I have really gone through the same issues and I probably still do.  However, the whole fitting in thing, I've found, is really just something that you can't get depressed about, or it will only get worse.  Take it from, me, I tried way too hard to fit in, particularly in 7th grade, and did some really fucking stupid things.  Therefore, I had friends that weren't really good people to be around, because I attracted that kind of negative energy.  Really, I wasn't very happy about it, because I hated the kids I hung around and I hated myself for being a complete fuck just to fit in. 

If I met myself back then I would have fucking killed the little bastard. 

So I guess the lesson that I've half-learned (I still need to learn it in some ways) is that not focusing on drawing people in really will leave you better off in the long run.  I sort of started to gravitate to other people similar to myself through that, and now have a few good friends, which to me is much better than a lot.  People tend to draw together even in their disinterest for drawing people to them. 

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: xShammas on March 30, 2011, 04:17:41 PM
I feel the same way Ravenheart, it feels like I have to hide what's going on with me, and put up a charade. I can only really be open with a couple friends I have, but they live kind of far away, and I used to open with a girl, but she's not in my life really anymore. I've always felt that I had people I could hang out with and call "friends", but no one I'm really that close to and can actually be myself with. My dad was kind of abusive, and I don't talk to him anymore. I live with my mom, but she's borderline alcoholic, and she's a little crazy too. She's the most important thing to me though, and she's been having health issues and issues at work lately, so I'm pretty worried at the moment. The only difference between you and I is that I can't wait to move out, but I don't have the financial stability. I really want to go to school, but again the money is a problem.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Rina on March 30, 2011, 04:19:04 PM
But I think I annoy mostly everyone I know anyway.

This statement surprises me because I like you a lot and find that very hard to believe.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: LCArenas on March 30, 2011, 06:37:02 PM
Every time I feel like I'm making progress, some little setback creeps up and reminds me that I haven't.

And it's exhausting to fake happiness to not be a nuisance to the people around me.

But I think I annoy mostly everyone I know anyway.
I've felt the same way. When I had that time, I always was worried about the people who thought I was annoying, but never the people who thought I was fun and that I made laugh. I can't be a good example, but when I tried to fit in, I always felt uncomfortable, always felt it was not my thing and ended up walking away. In University I struggled to find a group in which I felt comfortable, and the search was even painful, but I think that after a long time I have finally found them.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ravenheart on March 30, 2011, 06:58:20 PM
Oh, wow. Sorry for the late responses, everyone. A 2-hour class in the middle of the day is never convenient  :yeahright


I know what you mean. Do you find it's different with different groups though? I don't get shy but I can feel pretty awkward in certain situations. But in others I'm in my element. Do you KNOW people are laughing about you behind your back? Sounds like the experiences you had in grade/middle school have kept a hold of you. Have you ever had counselling?

Sometimes being thrown into something you're not ready for is the best way to cope and mature... however cool your new friends will be, they'll almost never be as good as your original friends! The whole transition from teenager living at home to adult moving out is hard for most people, at least you know everyone else will be in the same boat...
I've taken a little bit of counseling, but it was mostly against my will and forced on me by my mother, who should honestly be locked up in an asylum. I'm not kidding or exaggerating.

I do think I've made a lot of progress, but it still holds me back sometimes. I can make pretty much anyone laugh by cracking a few sarcastic comments, but I still feel very insecure around people. But if I keep at it, I think I'll make more progress.

I've noticed I feel very desperate and insecure when I start getting feelings for a girl, even though I can hide it. lolniceguy

I'm glad I'm not alone in the fear of living on my own. I just laugh at kids my age who act like they can't wait for it, since most of them are extremely dysfunctional on their own.

*hugs* were you the guy in the thread who said they could empathise with having an alcoholic mother?

Are you moving out and into college accommodation? Because if so, that's nothing like living on your own... you tend to have your finances sorted out for you, some places provide meals, you have people in a similar situation around you and know what your focus is for the next couple of years at least.

What scares you about living alone? Is it the practical stuff (the cooking, cleaning, washing stuff, getting up on time, being organised) or some other stuff?
Yeah, that was me. She'd pass out on the couch every day and night for about 3 years. Then she attended AA and only delved deeper into insanity.

I might be moving out for college, not sure yet. The part that scares me about living alone is just the idea that I might come across some horrible obstacle that I don't know how to cross, and there might not be anyone there to help me  :P

Ravenheart, I have really gone through the same issues and I probably still do.  However, the whole fitting in thing, I've found, is really just something that you can't get depressed about, or it will only get worse.  Take it from, me, I tried way too hard to fit in, particularly in 7th grade, and did some really fucking stupid things.  Therefore, I had friends that weren't really good people to be around, because I attracted that kind of negative energy.  Really, I wasn't very happy about it, because I hated the kids I hung around and I hated myself for being a complete fuck just to fit in. 

If I met myself back then I would have fucking killed the little bastard. 

So I guess the lesson that I've half-learned (I still need to learn it in some ways) is that not focusing on drawing people in really will leave you better off in the long run.  I sort of started to gravitate to other people similar to myself through that, and now have a few good friends, which to me is much better than a lot.  People tend to draw together even in their disinterest for drawing people to them. 


Heh, I was the same way during 7th and 8th grade, except that the people I wanted to like me didn't like me at all  :P

I've made some big improvements. I have a group of people I hang out with weekly outside of school, both male and female. It has helped my self-esteem a lot. What I've learned is that my anxiety and depression don't react to reason most of the time. They just act. It sucks, but it's a goal I try to work on.

I feel the same way Ravenheart, it feels like I have to hide what's going on with me, and put up a charade. I can only really be open with a couple friends I have, but they live kind of far away, and I used to open with a girl, but she's not in my life really anymore. I've always felt that I had people I could hang out with and call "friends", but no one I'm really that close to and can actually be myself with. My dad was kind of abusive, and I don't talk to him anymore. I live with my mom, but she's borderline alcoholic, and she's a little crazy too. She's the most important thing to me though, and she's been having health issues and issues at work lately, so I'm pretty worried at the moment. The only difference between you and I is that I can't wait to move out, but I don't have the financial stability. I really want to go to school, but again the money is a problem.
I know what you mean. Having someone to confide in is important. When you have friends that can't help you, it makes the outlook bleak.

I'm sorry about your mom. But the important thing is, you got away from your dad and have your priorities straight, and you recognize the parent who you can live with. I think if you find someone to move in with and share rent, you'll be able to better live on your own.

But I think I annoy mostly everyone I know anyway.

This statement surprises me because I like you a lot and find that very hard to believe.
Well thanks! :) I like you, too. I've been bullied a lot in my life (not anymore), and it just takes a toll on my self-esteem. I tend to worry too much, and I recognize that.

Every time I feel like I'm making progress, some little setback creeps up and reminds me that I haven't.

And it's exhausting to fake happiness to not be a nuisance to the people around me.

But I think I annoy mostly everyone I know anyway.
I've felt the same way. When I had that time, I always was worried about the people who thought I was annoying, but never the people who thought I was fun and that I made laugh. I can't be a good example, but when I tried to fit in, I always felt uncomfortable, always felt it was not my thing and ended up walking away. In University I struggled to find a group in which I felt comfortable, and the search was even painful, but I think that after a long time I have finally found them.
Yeah, I found my group of true friends around last year. It's made me feel a lot better, and I think they do accept me for who I am. It's just painful for me to look back at all those years I spent trying to fit in with the wrong crowd and always spending every day alone and unhappy.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: LCArenas on March 30, 2011, 07:03:20 PM
I'm in a long distance relationship, too, but I don't think you should regard yourself like that. Obviously if she's willing to wait to even have a hug or a kiss it means she loves you. She chose career because she needs to get herself established, obviously. I know I'd do the same thing (and I am doing the same thing) as I see no point trying to move into living with a guy and his parents with no money and no income. I would go out and DO things instead of sitting and dwelling on the "what if what if what if" stuff that she might or might not do. If she really liked sex and touching and all that so much she wouldn't have a long-distance relationship to begin with. Girls like that say "sorry we gotta break up" after highschool ends just because they'd be going to different colleges 30 minutes away >_> (30 minutes is not long-distance, people!!)

I don't know your situation, but why not try and find an (extra?) part time job so you can save up and see her for Christmas/new years of this year? I'm sure that would make her really happy!
Thanks for reading! But you're right. She couldn't do any jobs if she came here this year, and even though her University would finance her studies here, she would have to pay Health Insurance, Transport, rent and all the other shit. It would be harder for her and you're absolutely right... I understand her decision even more now.

About regarding myself hard, I've always had a very low self-esteem since I was almost 7 or 8 years old. And though I don't know her friends very well, I surely can say they're awesome. Centered, older, more experienced and (Hate to admit this) more handsome men who can support her economically, and most of all, who are not a complete failure like I am. 2013 seems so far away from here... It will be hard... Really hard.

I can't do part time jobs right now since my academic load is quite heavy, but I could do it on vacations this year, and traveling to that country costs a lot here, more than I could gain if I worked just one month or two. But I'll think about it :)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kura on March 30, 2011, 10:47:15 PM
I'm in a long distance relationship, too, but I don't think you should regard yourself like that. Obviously if she's willing to wait to even have a hug or a kiss it means she loves you. She chose career because she needs to get herself established, obviously. I know I'd do the same thing (and I am doing the same thing) as I see no point trying to move into living with a guy and his parents with no money and no income. I would go out and DO things instead of sitting and dwelling on the "what if what if what if" stuff that she might or might not do. If she really liked sex and touching and all that so much she wouldn't have a long-distance relationship to begin with. Girls like that say "sorry we gotta break up" after highschool ends just because they'd be going to different colleges 30 minutes away >_> (30 minutes is not long-distance, people!!)

I don't know your situation, but why not try and find an (extra?) part time job so you can save up and see her for Christmas/new years of this year? I'm sure that would make her really happy!
Thanks for reading! But you're right. She couldn't do any jobs if she came here this year, and even though her University would finance her studies here, she would have to pay Health Insurance, Transport, rent and all the other shit. It would be harder for her and you're absolutely right... I understand her decision even more now.

About regarding myself hard, I've always had a very low self-esteem since I was almost 7 or 8 years old. And though I don't know her friends very well, I surely can say they're awesome. Centered, older, more experienced and (Hate to admit this) more handsome men who can support her economically, and most of all, who are not a complete failure like I am. 2013 seems so far away from here... It will be hard... Really hard.

I can't do part time jobs right now since my academic load is quite heavy, but I could do it on vacations this year, and traveling to that country costs a lot here, more than I could gain if I worked just one month or two. But I'll think about it :)

If she wanted those men she would've left you a long time ago to be a "free bird"- but she hasn't, she's sticking with you so obviously she loves you and sees something great in you. You gotta get out of the low self-esteem funk or it's just going to push her away from you.

Think about it this way.. if someone loses their job and mopes, a friend will take em out for beers and cheer him up. If after 3 months he's still moping and hasn't applied for any more jobs, the friend will take him out again, give him a good talk and cheer him up. After a year the friend probably wont really want to take him out again cause he'll think "what good will that do?" When someone gives up its like they're telling others that their instincts aren't working and they're "pursuing death" you know? If they're not willing to help themselves then it drives other people away because other people don't want to be with the person who is "pursuing death" because they want to be brought down.

As soon as you say "complete failure like I am" you're already losing the battle, so don't do that. You're not a failure if you have ambitions and you're working towards a common goal- which is being together.

If you can't visit her there are a lot of other things you can do. I'm in a relationship with someone who goes to this forum (introduced me to this forum, even) and we have "skypedates" and send each other snail-mail and stuff because it feels more real and intimate. I don't have a job at the moment, either, because of my workload at school.. so I understand your situation. But I do make it a point to always contact him in some way every day (not because I have to, but because I want to) and I think that speaks a lot. There was a drink he likes that he can't get in the states so I bought one and shipped it over there for him. Sure it cost me (with shipping and all) like $20 for a silly fruit drink, but to me it was worth it because he got to enjoy something he couldn't normally have, and I was able to do that for him.

Little stuff like that keeps us going until we can see each other next time, since yeah.. even though he just lives in the states it's like $600 average to take a plane and see him (not counting insurance/ extra cash) so it's quite a bit for a student to be paying often.

What I'm saying is.. I understand your situation, but you shouldn't be so quick to give up or feel like you're just hanging on by a thread- if anything maybe you should talk about your fears with her and ask her if there are little things you can do to feel closer together (like skypedates) so it'll make you feel better and closer with each other until the time comes where you can be together. That's my best advice. You two have to be on the same page and there can't be any doubts.. because then you'll be no better than (excuse me for stereotyping) but those women who nag their husbands all the time accusing them of cheating until they just can't take it anymore and get divorced because there's no trust left in the relationship.

2013 might be quite far, yes, but it's not too bad. I think I might be waiting longer since he needs to finish school and get established. I might be waiting 4 years but to me it's worth it because he's the greatest guy I've ever met. I chose this relationship because I love him and I know it can work. You just gotta keep thinking positive and you'll pull through.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on April 05, 2011, 08:57:00 PM
hey guys...

so my gf and I have been going through some problems...


long story short, she cheated... she didnt fuck another guy, but cheating comes in many different forms. After found out, I confronted her on it. I asked her, with out telling her i knew, if she was being unfaithful, and if she was, admit it now, and I will forgive and forget and we can work on our relationship. Well she said no. she has always been faithful, and she also feels that we have gotten over a huge hump in our relationship and she feels everything should turn out ok. So i guess I said ok, and let things try to heal. But deep down I had that knowledge that I had been cheated on and lied too eating away at me. I always tell her that i keep NO secrets from her, and I backed it up by telling her I knew, and how i knew. I'm going to cut this story down because it will become an emotional rant... But we talked and she is truely sorry (I know her. thats I knew she was lieing. I know when she lies) and we are working on getting our relationship back on track. I love her. more than I have ever loved before. It's one of those thing where you don't know love like this until you feel it. Also, since alot of the fighting had been because of my anger issues... she asked if i was angry and I said no, because I had been working on my anger. She says I have every right to not speak to her for a long time and be angry... as long as it's not self destructive... (which was my problem). I don't know if I am angry. I dont know if I am depressed. I feel an emotion I have never felt before, and I don't know how to deal with it. I am not going to ignore it, because that's what I did when my dad was killed, and it led to some fucked up emotions, including my anger.

I know I will be able to get back onto fixing out relationship once I deal with it, but i dont fucking know how.   :(


edit: after talking, i found out that this happened during a few hours where we were fighting, she broke up with me, and then changed her mind a few hours later
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Marvellous G on April 10, 2011, 02:45:59 PM
Hey guys, most depressed I've ever been in my life.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ħ on April 10, 2011, 02:47:15 PM
Hey guys, most depressed I've ever been in my life.
??? What happened?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Marvellous G on April 10, 2011, 02:49:34 PM
I don't really wanna talk about it, it just means that I'm now gonna be in a massive depression slump for about a year and a half of my life.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: 73109 on April 10, 2011, 03:02:52 PM
How did a year and a half come into play? You sure you don't wanna talk about it? :(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Rina on April 11, 2011, 06:26:21 PM
I hate my life. Along with other things like finances and health I am an emotional wreck.

My family downright hates me. They think I'm a lying, manipulative, selfish bitch and accuse of things so ridiuculous I laugh sometimes.

I explained I hate to SHORTEN plans for tomorrow morning, because of a situation at work that I was hoping to get solved as soon as possible and my parents freak out and accuse me of lying and that I'm some horrible person. All they do is tell me what I'm doing wrong in life, how they can't stand me, and how I'm a pathological liar who uses people and is never reliable. That and my attempts at talking to them make them so frustrated and angry that they can't stand being around me. Also, they think it's impossible for anyone in the world to actually like me. Even when I can PHYSICALLY prove that I'm telling the truth, it's never enough.

I give up on life.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: xShammas on April 11, 2011, 06:59:38 PM
Almost everyone close to me is in some state of depression right now. If anyone's going through family troubles, relationship troubles, or financial troubles and wants to talk about it, let me know. I'm going through all of them right now too.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ravenheart on April 11, 2011, 07:00:41 PM
I hate my life. Along with other things like finances and health I am an emotional wreck.

My family downright hates me. They think I'm a lying, manipulative, selfish bitch and accuse of things so ridiuculous I laugh sometimes.

I explained I hate to SHORTEN plans for tomorrow morning, because of a situation at work that I was hoping to get solved as soon as possible and my parents freak out and accuse me of lying and that I'm some horrible person. All they do is tell me what I'm doing wrong in life, how they can't stand me, and how I'm a pathological liar who uses people and is never reliable. That and my attempts at talking to them make them so frustrated and angry that they can't stand being around me. Also, they think it's impossible for anyone in the world to actually like me. Even when I can PHYSICALLY prove that I'm telling the truth, it's never enough.

I give up on life.
Wow, um, I don't really know what to say to this, other than that I'm really sorry this is happening.

If you're not doing anything to magnify these nasty opinions they have of you, which I believe you when you say you haven't, then they're looking for someone to blame all their problems and grievances on. I don't know enough about the relationship you have with them, but that's what it looks like to me, based on what you've described.

Has it always been like this with your parents.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Rina on April 11, 2011, 07:02:03 PM
Yes, more or less. Sometimes it's fine, and then I'll do one thing, like say I'm too tired to do something/have to reschedule/etc, and suddenly it'll all begin again. Even if I have a good reason, they'll think I'm making it up or something weird.  :sadpanda:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ricky on April 11, 2011, 08:42:59 PM
Yes, more or less. Sometimes it's fine, and then I'll do one thing, like say I'm too tired to do something/have to reschedule/etc, and suddenly it'll all begin again. Even if I have a good reason, they'll think I'm making it up or something weird.  :sadpanda:

sending good vibes you way, rina <3

im not really good at therapy type stuff, but one thing i learned is that things have a weird way of working out. just remember when things go wrong, me and antigoon got your back.

edit the last sentence meant if you got me and antigoon, it's all good.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on April 12, 2011, 06:05:04 PM
Massively depressed.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on April 12, 2011, 06:05:28 PM
 :( What's up sonata?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ricky on April 12, 2011, 06:07:42 PM
i smell ricky gives y'all advice time.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on April 12, 2011, 06:18:05 PM
:( What's up sonata?


sigh


just a lot of stuff on top of just feeling like an absolute waste

it's like I can feel the chemicals in my brain being unbalanced.


oh yeah, and it doesn't help that today while I was at a red light in my parent's minivan (my car broke down so I have to use it) a car full of girls my age pulled up next to me and they mocked me for driving around in a minivan. I didn't take offense to it or anything because that's just a  childish thing of them to do, but I was just not in the mood for that.


I'm not even excited about going to see my friend and Coheed this weekend. It just seems stressful and useless. I don't have motivation to do anything, and I just don't care about anything at all.

There's just not much good going on to balance me out.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on April 12, 2011, 06:21:44 PM
That sucks Chris  :(

Maybe you just need a break to relax a bit, it sounds like you've been pretty busy/stressed and that can make you lose motivation and feel like giving up if it gets too much.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ZBomber on April 12, 2011, 06:29:46 PM
You should have mocked them for having more tools in their mouth than a dentist's patient.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on April 12, 2011, 06:44:01 PM
That sucks Chris  :(

Maybe you just need a break to relax a bit, it sounds like you've been pretty busy/stressed and that can make you lose motivation and feel like giving up if it gets too much.

Yeah probably.

Sometimes I just want to sit back and read or something but I can barely fit anything between the assignments I have due all the time. Not a day goes by that I don't have at least a short paper or some sort of assignment due. I want to relax right now, but I have a paper I should get done for tomorrow.

The man is getting me down, bro.


In one of my classes today we were watching a documentary about dying people, and the whole time I was like, "lucky ducks."

need to get out of this depresshinn in one piece

or not

whatev


You should have mocked them for having more tools in their mouth than a dentist's patient.

There are no good people, it's not worth it. Everyone is just absolutely awful.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on April 12, 2011, 06:46:38 PM
Man I know how that feels not having time to just relax and do nothing cos there's so much work to do. If I've learnt one thing since I started uni it's that you have to learn to make time for yourself every now and then otherwise you'll just exhaust yourself.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ZBomber on April 12, 2011, 07:01:09 PM
Well, look on the bright side guys... school is almost over. I dunno about you all, but I'm done with classes May 3rd, and then I have a final or two and I get like 3 months of heavenly, stress free isolation.

And then school starts again boo
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ravenheart on April 12, 2011, 07:44:46 PM
HEY GUISE

JUST RAN A RAZOR ACROSS THE INSIDE OF MY LEG

LIFE IS SO FUCKING AWESOME

 :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ZBomber on April 12, 2011, 08:03:53 PM
 :( Stohp it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ħ on April 12, 2011, 08:14:24 PM
Yeah Zander don't do that. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Rina on April 12, 2011, 09:54:20 PM
Yes, more or less. Sometimes it's fine, and then I'll do one thing, like say I'm too tired to do something/have to reschedule/etc, and suddenly it'll all begin again. Even if I have a good reason, they'll think I'm making it up or something weird.  :sadpanda:

sending good vibes you way, rina <3

im not really good at therapy type stuff, but one thing i learned is that things have a weird way of working out. just remember when things go wrong, me and antigoon got your back.

edit the last sentence meant if you got me and antigoon, it's all good.


Thank you Ricky.  :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 12, 2011, 10:03:42 PM
Getting really depressed...must get ice cream. Screw losing weight
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: SPNKr on April 13, 2011, 04:28:20 AM
Chris I just read your stuff. Just wanna say you'll pull through, I know you will.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Portrucci on April 13, 2011, 04:32:44 AM
If a clever and funny mind like chris' can't pull through

what the fuck hope do the rest of us have  :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on April 13, 2011, 08:31:50 AM
HEY GUISE

JUST RAN A RAZOR ACROSS THE INSIDE OF MY LEG

LIFE IS SO FUCKING AWESOME

 :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

I hope you're joking  :(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on April 13, 2011, 08:41:21 AM
Loosing my mom and this job search is taking it's toll on me mentally but I'm trying to fight off this feeling and trying to keep my chin up and fight the good fight.  It's hard.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on April 13, 2011, 08:44:13 AM
Sorry things are rough for you right now King, hats off to you for managing to stay so strong. Keep at it, things'll get better  :)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on April 13, 2011, 08:49:59 AM
Thank you.  It's a battle right now.  Since there was a lot of snow on the ground we couldn't bury my mom yet.  We will be doing so on her birthday in May.  My dad has MS and it's getting worse with his grief and stress so I've been helping him with finding a headstone and plot.  It's weighing heavy on my heart.  Plus it's hard to heal when we still have to bury her.

The work thing is frustrating since I confident in my skills and have been on 5 interviews but their not offering enough.  I'm worried that I may have to take a large loss in salary and being the main provider in the family, I'm feeling the pressure.  I just got to tell myself it will all work out in the end.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ZBomber on April 13, 2011, 08:52:49 AM
 :( *hugs*

That's really tough, Joe. You're a great guy, I'm sure things will turn around for you soon! Like you said, just keep your chin up. Things will turn in your favor soon if you keep a positive attitude!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on April 13, 2011, 08:57:54 AM
I can't imagine what it must be like to loose a parent, my condolences for your mother. It must be hard having the grieving process dragged out like that too but maybe after May you'll be able to start healing. I guess in the meantime you just have to try be there for your dad, which it sounds like you've been doing.

As for the work, I guess you just have to hope that things work out, keep at it and don't let it lower your confidence in your abilities.

You definitely seem to have a good attitude as far as staying positive and strong goes, that's really admirable. Stay brave, I hope everything does work out for you  :)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on April 13, 2011, 08:58:59 AM
 :heart to both of you.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: EPICVIEW on April 13, 2011, 02:00:30 PM
HUGZZZZ to all those who are hurting..

Extra HUG to Kingshmegland :(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Rina on April 13, 2011, 03:16:17 PM
Loosing my mom and this job search is taking it's toll on me mentally but I'm trying to fight off this feeling and trying to keep my chin up and fight the good fight.  It's hard.

Hang in there man, that's rough, but it's good that you aren't giving up.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lonestar on April 13, 2011, 03:25:40 PM
Damn king, keep up the good fight.  You are a good, honest man, and I put all of my faith in the fact that things will work out.  Take much pride, though, in the beautiful person that you are.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Rina on April 17, 2011, 07:03:28 PM
My best friend (in her mid 50's) has been confiding in me lately. Her husband is recently in Hospice due to cancer and it's devastating and I'm not sure of what to do. Sometimes we won't talk about it and will just focus on enjoying a night out, and other times I try to be there just so she can vent. It's just a really hard situation and I'm really in pieces about it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ricky on April 17, 2011, 07:05:29 PM
My best friend (in her mid 50's) has been confiding in me lately. Her husband is recently in Hospice due to cancer and it's devastating and I'm not sure of what to do. Sometimes we won't talk about it and will just focus on enjoying a night out, and other times I try to be there just so she can vent. It's just a really hard situation and I'm really in pieces about it.

hm. im curious though, what part exactly upsets you? obviously her husband in hospice does *sending good vibes his way*, but does the part about her confiding in you bother you too?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lonestar on April 17, 2011, 07:06:19 PM
Rina, I'm sure that you have more than enough heart to suit her needs.  Hang in there, lady.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Rina on April 17, 2011, 07:56:24 PM
Oh, gosh, I definitely didn't mean her confiding in me bothers me! I love that she feels comfortable doing that and that's definitely not something I wouldn't want. (sorry, probably sounded confusing)

I'm just concerned about her, and he's a dear friend of mine too, so it's just a lot of heartache going around.

Thanks lonestar.  :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Heretic on April 17, 2011, 08:15:27 PM
Been having some difficulty with the girl I'm taking to prom- one moment she'll seem like she really likes me, the next she seems to be on the complete other end of the spectrum.

Fun fun.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lonestar on April 17, 2011, 08:22:04 PM
Thanks lonestar.  :heart
:heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ricky on April 17, 2011, 08:24:22 PM
Been having some difficulty with the girl I'm taking to prom- one moment she'll seem like she really likes me, the next she seems to be on the complete other end of the spectrum.

Fun fun.

been there before.

elaborate.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on April 17, 2011, 08:28:22 PM
My best friend (in her mid 50's) has been confiding in me lately. Her husband is recently in Hospice due to cancer and it's devastating and I'm not sure of what to do. Sometimes we won't talk about it and will just focus on enjoying a night out, and other times I try to be there just so she can vent. It's just a really hard situation and I'm really in pieces about it.

Rina.  I had cancer and lost my mom to cancer and all I can tell you is to be there for her.  My wife needed her friends to help her get through when I was going through Lymphoma and so did I with my mom cancer.  If she wants to talk she will.  If she just wants company, that good too.  Trust me. It means a lot just being there for her.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on April 17, 2011, 09:13:07 PM
I can't stand feeling not needed... by my girlfriend, friends, family, etc... Like I can disappear off the face of the earth and no one would notice the fucking difference. I also can't stand feeling like I am being lied to (in my relationship)... not being sure now what is fact and what is fabrication. It is making me paranoid.

The 2 things that are plaguing me..
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on April 17, 2011, 09:25:33 PM
I can't stand feeling not needed... by my girlfriend, friends, family, etc... Like I can disappear off the face of the earth and no one would notice the fucking difference. I also can't stand feeling like I am being lied to (in my relationship)... not being sure now what is fact and what is fabrication. It is making me paranoid.

The 2 things that are plaguing me..

Jay.  These things seem to be more about you.  If I remember you were going to a doctor for your anger.  Have you brought up these feelings and if not, maybe you could bring your significant other in with you to the sessions.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on April 17, 2011, 10:04:41 PM
Haven't been able to go to any counseling due to lack of funds. My anger issues are starting to get better. The paranoia is from learning that my girlfriend of 4 years is able to look me in the eyes and lie to me... When I can't lie to her about anything... If I try wind up confessing everything soon after. I try to explain it to her... And I honestly don't know if I can beleive her when she says something o try to mend this... It's a paradox.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on April 17, 2011, 10:07:47 PM
If you don't mind, what is she lying about?  Does she do this to avoid getting you mad or other motives?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on April 17, 2011, 11:11:43 PM
2 things... one was being semi unfaithful which we are still working on fixing, and the other was just a simple thing she said... telling me something just to get me out of her room (yea we live together but her mother, whom we live with, is against us sharing a room)... anyway telling me something to get me to leave so she can read... alone (she is loves to read) instead of just telling me, she would pretend to be asleep when I would come in for something then pull out her laptop and read... I know it's childish but I guess she had been doing it for a long time... basically lieing to me to get me out of her room so she can be alone... when all she has to do is say something. Like I said, I know it's childish but it got me thinking, if she has lied about those 2 things, one being a small thing and one being a major thing, what else has / does she lie about? how many times has she loooked me in the eyes and told me something, and it not be true? could be little stuff, like reading, but it also could be be things, like her going to her friend's house who made a move on her when we last had a fight... i asked her not to be around him for a while... does she stay away? or does she go over there when I am doing something else?  One huge issue I have (kinda change of subject) is the fact that all her friends are guys... I have always had a small issue with it, but the one time I dropped it all and completely trusted her, I find out he made a move on her during a fight her and I were having.... She used to go over there when she was upset... how do I know that other shit hadnt of gone on? how do I know if that was the first time he tried something? The one time I let my guard down, this happens, and I am lied to about it... how do i know if i can let the trust back in?

my god this is a long rant....
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on April 18, 2011, 05:20:08 AM
Yea.  That is a tough situation for you.  If you want to work it out then tell her your not feeling right in the relationship and want to go to therepy.  If she doesn't then it's either 2 things. 1. She's one of those who thinks, "I'm not broken, I don't need to go" or 2. She is cheating.  If she does want to go she's willing to fight for the relationship which is a good thing. I'm sorry, that is a hard position your in.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MajorMatt on April 18, 2011, 06:21:41 AM
I can't understand why, but I have this horrible nervous feeling in my stomach, some might describe it as the 'butterflies' and its constantly there, not just bothering me for a few minutes at a time. I've had it before, a few weeks back and I noticed it started again yesterday, I went out for lunch with a few friends and while i was eating I got this feeling and when i lifted my fork I was trembling slightly.

I'm trying to catch up on school work today after a solid week of partying, but I can't focus because the feeling is overwhelming. I am an obsessive over-thinker too which isn't helping, once I get in motion, that's it. It's really starting to get me down, I'm thinking about the last time I experienced it and it was horrible, lasted over a week, and in that time I hardly ate or slept.

Wtf is wrong with me guys?  :sad:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: xShammas on April 18, 2011, 10:50:19 AM
I can't understand why, but I have this horrible nervous feeling in my stomach, some might describe it as the 'butterflies' and its constantly there, not just bothering me for a few minutes at a time. I've had it before, a few weeks back and I noticed it started again yesterday, I went out for lunch with a few friends and while i was eating I got this feeling and when i lifted my fork I was trembling slightly.

I'm trying to catch up on school work today after a solid week of partying, but I can't focus because the feeling is overwhelming. I am an obsessive over-thinker too which isn't helping, once I get in motion, that's it. It's really starting to get me down, I'm thinking about the last time I experienced it and it was horrible, lasted over a week, and in that time I hardly ate or slept.

Wtf is wrong with me guys?  :sad:
Do you experience insane amounts of energy, or feel like you can't control yourself? It sounds a little like the mania phase of bipolar disorder.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on April 18, 2011, 10:56:27 AM
I can't understand why, but I have this horrible nervous feeling in my stomach, some might describe it as the 'butterflies' and its constantly there, not just bothering me for a few minutes at a time. I've had it before, a few weeks back and I noticed it started again yesterday, I went out for lunch with a few friends and while i was eating I got this feeling and when i lifted my fork I was trembling slightly.

I'm trying to catch up on school work today after a solid week of partying, but I can't focus because the feeling is overwhelming. I am an obsessive over-thinker too which isn't helping, once I get in motion, that's it. It's really starting to get me down, I'm thinking about the last time I experienced it and it was horrible, lasted over a week, and in that time I hardly ate or slept.

Wtf is wrong with me guys?  :sad:
Do you experience insane amounts of energy, or feel like you can't control yourself? It sounds a little like the mania phase of bipolar disorder.

No it doesn't.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: chknptpie on April 18, 2011, 11:47:14 AM
It might be panic attacks or anxiety - which is also related to depression and bi-polar. I've dealt with panic attacks quite a bit. It starts in my stomach and then I get shaky. I feel like fight or flight... seriously the lyrics to Panic Attack are pretty accurate haha Caffeine and alcohol can increase anxiety, so if you say its after a week of partying, that may have an impact.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Rafael Guerra on April 18, 2011, 09:07:37 PM
I can't understand why, but I have this horrible nervous feeling in my stomach, some might describe it as the 'butterflies' and its constantly there, not just bothering me for a few minutes at a time. I've had it before, a few weeks back and I noticed it started again yesterday, I went out for lunch with a few friends and while i was eating I got this feeling and when i lifted my fork I was trembling slightly.

I'm trying to catch up on school work today after a solid week of partying, but I can't focus because the feeling is overwhelming. I am an obsessive over-thinker too which isn't helping, once I get in motion, that's it. It's really starting to get me down, I'm thinking about the last time I experienced it and it was horrible, lasted over a week, and in that time I hardly ate or slept.

Wtf is wrong with me guys?  :sad:
While some people are making connections to psychological problems (which is likely), it's difficult to point out if there is a link to a specific psychological disorder given you did not say much about your current situation- lots of stress? any recent family problems? family history?

Generally speaking, it is known in the field of psychology that stomach "butterflies" are usually associated with anxiety and fear. The uncertainty of events can cause the person to sketch out many situations, and the desire to control every detail - in an "over thinker" like you - can drive one to anxiety and fear. However, it could as well just be some physical symptom rather than a psychological problem. Stomach problems that come and go are often associated with specific food that you might be consuming with regularity. Parasites that are present in water sources or salads for example. Don't rule out this option if you know you eat the same exact things every single day and if you know others with similar symptoms.

Once you figure the "source", you need to decide how you will deal with it. There is medicine for nausea and irritated stomach. Ondansentron is highly effective!!! But you don't want it to be in a glass prison. I also understand seeing a doctor/psychologist is not always convenient. But you don't want to be living with these butterflies forever either, so you will eventually have to do something. Good luck.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MajorMatt on April 19, 2011, 04:17:08 AM
First of all thanks for the responses, I don't normally talk about myself to anyone family/friends included for fear of sounding like a whiny bitch, but this time thought what the hell :P.

Do you experience insane amounts of energy, or feel like you can't control yourself? It sounds a little like the mania phase of bipolar disorder.

Sometimes yes, I can get pretty hyperactive, I can't sit still, but on the plus side this sometimes makes me incredibly productive :P

It might be panic attacks or anxiety - which is also related to depression and bi-polar. I've dealt with panic attacks quite a bit. It starts in my stomach and then I get shaky. I feel like fight or flight... seriously the lyrics to Panic Attack are pretty accurate haha Caffeine and alcohol can increase anxiety, so if you say its after a week of partying, that may have an impact.

I was also thinking about the effects of caffeine and alcohol and whether or not it has an effect. I have discovered that caffeine seems to make the feeling worse and alcohol makes its better (probably due to it being a relaxant) - but it goes without saying I will never turn to alcohol to medicate.

While some people are making connections to psychological problems (which is likely), it's difficult to point out if there is a link to a specific psychological disorder given you did not say much about your current situation- lots of stress? any recent family problems? family history?

Generally speaking, it is known in the field of psychology that stomach "butterflies" are usually associated with anxiety and fear. The uncertainty of events can cause the person to sketch out many situations, and the desire to control every detail - in an "over thinker" like you - can drive one to anxiety and fear. However, it could as well just be some physical symptom rather than a psychological problem. Stomach problems that come and go are often associated with specific food that you might be consuming with regularity. Parasites that are present in water sources or salads for example. Don't rule out this option if you know you eat the same exact things every single day and if you know others with similar symptoms.

Once you figure the "source", you need to decide how you will deal with it. There is medicine for nausea and irritated stomach. Ondansentron is highly effective!!! But you don't want it to be in a glass prison. I also understand seeing a doctor/psychologist is not always convenient. But you don't want to be living with these butterflies forever either, so you will eventually have to do something. Good luck.

As far as my personal situation goes, I am currently studying for my last round of exams - the ones that will really count and decide whether or not i get into University and as an A Grade student, the pressure is on from myself, family, friends and school to succeed. I'm also battling with self-confidence issues, I recently started talking (on FB) to a girl at my school, we seemed to get along well, we share similar interests etc etc. However, I feel like I am messing her around a bit because I appear interested, then don't speak to her for a while because the shaking/butterflies intensifies if I even try to say 'Hey, how's it going?'. So, I have no chance of striking up a conversation in person...who am I kidding shes probably not even interested. Lastly, I often catch myself a million miles away, playing situations out in my head either from the past, the many ways in which the future could end up or the numerous 'how different would things be if I did/didnt do that'. 'Carpe Diem' is a motto that I understand and I 'get' the various related lyrics from ACoS, and I would love to live by them but find it impossible, instead I find myself more in a 'this story ends where it began' situation :P

In terms of family issues, well, about 5 years ago, after 15 years of sobriety, my father returned to drinking. He suffered from numerous health problems that let him to taking extensive time off work and ultimately leaving. He became depressed and was diagnosed with bipolar disorder and returned to alcohol to self medicate. So, hes been in and out of rehab ever since, stopping drinking for (at the most) only a few months at a time. He recently came out of rehab and sought more help with his medication while he was still sober. He was admitted to hospital so they could take him off the shit-ton of medication he had been prescribed and start over. He is back home now and seems good, but, he has returned to the usual sitting around all day doing nothing to keep himself entertained routine that ultimately ends in depression and further drinking - whether or not the new medication will have an effect, I don't know. I also lost both my grandfathers within a short space of time last year, one I barely ever saw, the other, one of the most influential/inspirational people in my life.

/whiny emo bitching

Feels good to vent for a change, sorry it had to be on here.
Carry on.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Aramatheis on April 19, 2011, 06:19:58 AM
Feels good to vent for a change, sorry it had to be on here.
Carry on.
Everyone's got to get it out of their system at some point. Glad to see you're doing it in a mature, reasonable way.
Hope it works out for you.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Heretic on April 19, 2011, 07:09:53 PM
Been having some difficulty with the girl I'm taking to prom- one moment she'll seem like she really likes me, the next she seems to be on the complete other end of the spectrum.

Fun fun.

been there before.

elaborate.

Haha, well, I've gotten her to sit with us during our lunch, I've walked her to her parents' car after soccer games/events/etc., walked with her in the hallways, and invited her to places to hang out and all the while she seems happy and such, but I'm not convinced. When we text and the like, she'll sometimes be incredibly responsive, while other times she'll send back a half-hearted reply or a simple "yeah haha" which, is, of course, a bad sign at points.

She's stayed for a few of my soccer games, and she's also told one of my friends who asked about me that "I was the sweetest guy she'd ever met" but, like I said, I'm not convinced, especially by her actions. She doesn't seem to like to initiate things, and she's not seeking me out in the hallways/after practice/etc. so I am kind of at a loss of what to do- leave her alone and just wait until prom, ask her what she wants from me, or continue as I am. Any way I go, I'm still going to have the short end of the stick as far as I can see.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on April 20, 2011, 03:48:13 PM
Time for another rant.

What is family? My blood family doesn't give a shit. Most of the time I feel like I have no blood family. The closest thing I have to family is my girlfriend's family. I have been living with them for over 2 years... I pay rent... but I am family enough to eat with them and go on vacation and everything... But I am always being made painfully aware that I am not family. I am family enough to do the dirty work around the house, but not enough to be respected around here... not enough to defend my girlfriend in an arguement... not enough to defend MYSELF in an arguement. I hate the feeling of having no family... I hate being made aware that if something happens between my girlfriend and I, i dont only lose her, my place to live, but the closest thing I have to a family.

: /
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on April 22, 2011, 09:14:17 PM
Tonight while talking to my girlfriend about Hawaii, I came to the depressing realization that most if not all of Oceania will be submerged by rising ocean waters in the next 50 years, and I probably won't be able to see any of those islands before it happens. :sadpanda:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: xShammas on April 22, 2011, 09:18:16 PM
One moment I'm at work depressed and thinking about how the girl I love broke my heart, and the next, I'm at home rocking out to DT and talking to some new girl over facebook. Suddenly, all is right with the world. And in a week I'll be back where I started. I guess it could always get worse, but it gets pretty bad.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on April 22, 2011, 09:19:17 PM
Tonight while talking to my girlfriend about Hawaii, I came to the depressing realization that most if not all of Oceania will be submerged by rising ocean waters in the next 50 years, and I probably won't be able to see any of those islands before it happens. :sadpanda:

why the fuck not
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on April 22, 2011, 09:20:10 PM
I. Don't. Have. Money.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on April 22, 2011, 09:25:16 PM
I. Don't. Have. Money.

Doesn't yahweh take care of that shit for you people


and aren't you in law school or something



and you know what? one day, HOPEFULLY, the earth is going to be incinerated by the sun in an instant of absolute indifference

THAT is something I want to see, and I won't even live to see it happen. At least seeing a bunch of islands is feasible. Feel lucky.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on April 22, 2011, 09:28:43 PM
What the fuck is it with you and the sun burning the earth?



Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on April 22, 2011, 09:30:13 PM
I dunno, it's just awesome and poetic and so on
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on April 22, 2011, 10:03:18 PM
I. Don't. Have. Money.

Doesn't yahweh take care of that shit for you people


and aren't you in law school or something



and you know what? one day, HOPEFULLY, the earth is going to be incinerated by the sun in an instant of absolute indifference

THAT is something I want to see, and I won't even live to see it happen. At least seeing a bunch of islands is feasible. Feel lucky.

I'm an undergrad that's probably headed for public policy school, considerably less prestigious than law school.

And all that stuff about the sun blowing up the Earth makes me even more depressed. :sadpanda:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on April 22, 2011, 10:32:53 PM
I would give you some words of encouragement or something but my brain chemicals are unbalancing right now and I'm feeling even more down than usual (which is always) haha death death death


which reminds me, in my health concepts class we did a unit on death and dying, and the professor introduced it saying, "Death. It's something we know is going to happen, but we never think of or accept it, do we?" and I was like, fuck you dude, what are you talking about. I can't go a single god damned day without fantasizing about either myself or everyone on earth dying in one way or another.

and then I remembered and had to consider that most people probably aren't crazy
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ravenheart on April 22, 2011, 10:55:21 PM
The fuck?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: FretMuppet on April 23, 2011, 02:52:19 PM
Been having some difficulty with the girl I'm taking to prom- one moment she'll seem like she really likes me, the next she seems to be on the complete other end of the spectrum.

Fun fun.

been there before.

elaborate.

Haha, well, I've gotten her to sit with us during our lunch, I've walked her to her parents' car after soccer games/events/etc., walked with her in the hallways, and invited her to places to hang out and all the while she seems happy and such, but I'm not convinced. When we text and the like, she'll sometimes be incredibly responsive, while other times she'll send back a half-hearted reply or a simple "yeah haha" which, is, of course, a bad sign at points.

She's stayed for a few of my soccer games, and she's also told one of my friends who asked about me that "I was the sweetest guy she'd ever met" but, like I said, I'm not convinced, especially by her actions. She doesn't seem to like to initiate things, and she's not seeking me out in the hallways/after practice/etc. so I am kind of at a loss of what to do- leave her alone and just wait until prom, ask her what she wants from me, or continue as I am. Any way I go, I'm still going to have the short end of the stick as far as I can see.

I've been in a similar situation as you before bro, and it seems that its a pretty common thing too. Chances are, she does have an interest in you, and even though she's acting that way, and you feel uncertain, never, never, never act that way towards her. When I was in that situation, I began to act like I don't have much interest in her, which then made her think that I don't like her, which then made her as uncertain as me. Yeah, we both liked each other, but when we found out that we liked each other, it really didn't set a stable foundation for a relationship, and of course, we ended up falling apart.

Now I haven't spoken to her for over a year. Feelsbadman.

Anyways, try not to show that you're giving up. Even if it may seem like you have no chance left, just don't give up and treat her like a good friend and sooner or later you'll find out what her feelings are.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Heretic on April 23, 2011, 11:01:56 PM
Been having some difficulty with the girl I'm taking to prom- one moment she'll seem like she really likes me, the next she seems to be on the complete other end of the spectrum.

Fun fun.

been there before.

elaborate.

Haha, well, I've gotten her to sit with us during our lunch, I've walked her to her parents' car after soccer games/events/etc., walked with her in the hallways, and invited her to places to hang out and all the while she seems happy and such, but I'm not convinced. When we text and the like, she'll sometimes be incredibly responsive, while other times she'll send back a half-hearted reply or a simple "yeah haha" which, is, of course, a bad sign at points.

She's stayed for a few of my soccer games, and she's also told one of my friends who asked about me that "I was the sweetest guy she'd ever met" but, like I said, I'm not convinced, especially by her actions. She doesn't seem to like to initiate things, and she's not seeking me out in the hallways/after practice/etc. so I am kind of at a loss of what to do- leave her alone and just wait until prom, ask her what she wants from me, or continue as I am. Any way I go, I'm still going to have the short end of the stick as far as I can see.

I've been in a similar situation as you before bro, and it seems that its a pretty common thing too. Chances are, she does have an interest in you, and even though she's acting that way, and you feel uncertain, never, never, never act that way towards her. When I was in that situation, I began to act like I don't have much interest in her, which then made her think that I don't like her, which then made her as uncertain as me. Yeah, we both liked each other, but when we found out that we liked each other, it really didn't set a stable foundation for a relationship, and of course, we ended up falling apart.

Now I haven't spoken to her for over a year. Feelsbadman.

Anyways, try not to show that you're giving up. Even if it may seem like you have no chance left, just don't give up and treat her like a good friend and sooner or later you'll find out what her feelings are.

Well, on Friday, we all went on a field trip, and, despite us both being there, we didn't even talk or hang out or anything... I was incredibly disappointed.

Asked her about it today and she said she was sorry and etc. etc. and despite the fact that I probably sounded pissed while texting her, she kept talking and trying to continue the conversation.

Then, talking to one of her friends on facebook tonight (it's funny, her friend is more flirty with me than she is), I was told that she is excited to go with me to prom, but she's not a "girly-girl" type and just doesn't show it well. I'm not completely sure where I'm going with all this, but it all stems down to the fact that I'm not great with girls and that apparently she's very shy around guys she likes and isn't open about hardly anything. I don't exactly know what I am going to do, but I'm certainly not going to give up.

But anyways, thanks for the advice, man, I really appreciate it! :tup Hopefully things will go well, my past relationships have been horrid and I'm very tentative about going into this one because of them.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: FretMuppet on April 24, 2011, 05:29:44 AM
Its cool, I think a bit more person-to-person communication would make her more open to you, and maybe finding the right time to go out together would help too. Not really a date, but more of a small walk around town would be great, as friends, you know?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Aramatheis on April 24, 2011, 09:26:13 AM
but I'm certainly not going to give up.

 :tup
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: BanksD on April 24, 2011, 10:06:22 AM
I'm not sure if this qualifies to be posted here, but I feel like I need to get this out of my system.


Well, I pretty much ruined the best friendship I've ever had with anyone because I would always complain to her too much and was either always depressed or pissed off. What I want to know is




why the fuck have I been so happy all day?

seriously, this has been the happiest I've ever felt in a while. I feel like I should want to shoot myself or something, but I don't.


Very strange.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on April 24, 2011, 08:50:10 PM
fuck

all i can say is

and I will never be open again


you all can figure out the rest
:sadpanda:


I might be away from DTF for  a whule
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: 73109 on April 24, 2011, 08:57:48 PM
shit...what happened
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on April 24, 2011, 11:16:18 PM
Very long story. I'm on my phone sitting at diner drinking coffee after standing at the end of a pier under no moon... pitch black... gonna finish off my bottle f captian morgan when I get home if I go home idfk
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Rina on April 25, 2011, 08:44:37 AM
So long story short my job fired me because I couldn't work b/c of a religious/family reason.


Slight panic coming in.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on April 25, 2011, 10:59:00 AM
So long story short my job fired me because I couldn't work b/c of a religious/family reason.


Slight panic coming in.


that's bullshit. I'm sorry Rina :(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: tri.ad on April 25, 2011, 11:36:17 AM
So long story short my job fired me because I couldn't work b/c of a religious/family reason.


Slight panic coming in.

Damn... You just can't catch a break at the moment, can you? Some good and encouraging vibes coming your way.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Rina on April 25, 2011, 11:41:25 AM
So long story short my job fired me because I couldn't work b/c of a religious/family reason.


Slight panic coming in.

Damn... You just can't catch a break at the moment, can you? Some good and encouraging vibes coming your way.

Thanks. I'm panicking because apparently my engine is broken. But the part that's broken is about $120 to get fixed, so I'm stumped again.  :sadpanda:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: xShammas on April 25, 2011, 04:52:03 PM
I hope everything gets better for everyone here, and I want to thank all of you for putting up with my whining as well. I appreciate that I can use this as a place to vent my frustrations without having to bother anyone.

Anyways, my mom has been dealing with ovarian cysts for a couple years, and recently it has been getting bad. Not only this, but she's in trouble at work for having to miss time due to her condition. On top of this, she has to have major surgery and won't be able to work for a few weeks. On top of that, the doctor's office can't process the paperwork for some bullshit, so she won't be getting paid during this time. So she's panicking because she thinks we may not have a place to live, I'm dealing with all of this in addition to my own personal issues, and she's been telling me she wants to kill herself for a couple months now, getting a little more serious lately.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on April 25, 2011, 05:00:03 PM
sorry for all the posts...


but... fuck... my only rock... the only person I can turn to through all of this... is her. I cry on her shoulder. That's not fucking right? is it?  I have broken down 3 times in the past 12 hours... completely...  balling... I dont cry. at all. and I have now lost it twice... with her right there... because she is the only person on earth i completely trust.


idk


and it really doesnt make me feel any better that her phone is being blown up with people wanting to comfort her... and I have 3 people who i had to herd together for myself.  she has like 20 different people... i have 3.. plus one who lives on the other side of the country... who wont talk to me unless i go to them. i feel so fucking alone. thats why i have been posting here.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MajorMatt on April 28, 2011, 05:16:33 PM
*withdrawn drunk post*  :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ricky on April 29, 2011, 06:05:53 PM
forgive the explicit language, but..

YOU MOTHERFUGGIN TOWING PEOPLE WANNA TOW MY CAR I WASNT EVEN PARKED ILLEGALLY I WORK HARD FOR MY MONEY AT A  HEALTH FOODS STORE AT 10 BUCKS AN HOUR YET YOU CHARGE 191 BUCKS FOR MY JEEP TO BE TOWED F U YOU FRIGGIN PEICE OF GARBAGE TOWING PEOPLE/

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Marvellous G on April 30, 2011, 02:45:30 PM
sorry for all the posts...


but... fuck... my only rock... the only person I can turn to through all of this... is her. I cry on her shoulder. That's not fucking right? is it?  I have broken down 3 times in the past 12 hours... completely...  balling... I dont cry. at all. and I have now lost it twice... with her right there... because she is the only person on earth i completely trust.


idk


and it really doesnt make me feel any better that her phone is being blown up with people wanting to comfort her... and I have 3 people who i had to herd together for myself.  she has like 20 different people... i have 3.. plus one who lives on the other side of the country... who wont talk to me unless i go to them. i feel so fucking alone. thats why i have been posting here.

I'm obviously not entirely sure about the situation, but I can guess at least really vaguely what happened, and regardless, that situation sucks for you no matter what happened. If posting on DTF and talking to us folks makes you feel less alone, then I Britishly IMPLORE you to keep posting, we can talk and at least try to make you feel less alone if it's making you feel even remotely better.  :D



As for me, not really sure if this belongs in this thread, but I've had kind of an odd realization. I've had a free house last night, and now tonight again. Last night, I invited some friends round and we had a fun drunk night in, just watching TV, playing music and chatting etc, which was great. Tonight, I've put on some chillout music really loudly, have gorged on comfort food and just sat drinking coffee looking out at the street for a while, which is basically the epitome of the internet loner. But you know what? I actually think I've enjoyed this night more, just chilling on the internet and doing nothing in particular, all alone. Now, I don't wanna sound like a dick, but what's weird about this is that I could easily have rounded up some friends and had another drunk night, which is what most people would do I guess, but I definitely prefer what I'm doing tonight. Does this just make me the biggest introvert ever?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ultimetalhead on April 30, 2011, 02:49:46 PM
I feel the exact same way. I'll take a whole day to myself over a whole day with friends any day of the week.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Aramatheis on April 30, 2011, 03:11:18 PM
I understand the feeling, but I have wayy too many "free" days to myself. I'd rather enjoy the company of some friends.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on April 30, 2011, 09:10:12 PM
2 year anniversary of my father's death.

fuck...


plus all this other shit...


fuck.

FUCK APRIL.

horrible month.

 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Metropolis Pt. II on April 30, 2011, 09:13:48 PM
Man, I can't say that I can relate to what you're dealing with, but from what you have been posting, my heart really goes out to you, man. I can't imagine what it's like to go through all of that...I don't know what kind of advice to give you, but I will keep you in prayer. It's the best I can do.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on April 30, 2011, 09:23:55 PM
thanks


ugh it just never fucking ends
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Aramatheis on April 30, 2011, 10:17:34 PM
Man, I can't say that I can relate to what you're dealing with, but from what you have been posting, my heart really goes out to you, man. I can't imagine what it's like to go through all of that...I don't know what kind of advice to give you, but I will keep you in prayer. It's the best I can do.

This x1000.
Very well said, Metropolis.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 30, 2011, 10:47:35 PM
2 year anniversary of my father's death.

fuck...


plus all this other shit...


fuck.

FUCK APRIL.

horrible month.

 

That is how I feel about May. The anniversary of my mom's death is May 4th, Mother's Day is in May, and my birthday is as well (I hate birthdays).
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: In The Name Of Rudess on May 01, 2011, 12:33:27 AM
Does this just make me the biggest introvert ever?

No. But it does make you an introvert. And there's nothing wrong with that. Don't fall into western society's trap of believing introverts are inferior to extroverts.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Aramatheis on May 01, 2011, 10:24:42 AM
I hate birthdays

Any particular reason why? I'm not trying to antagonize; I feel the same way about weddings.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on May 01, 2011, 03:19:51 PM
last night turned into a huge fight. I called her out on the fact that, even though she is the person on earth I am closest to. the only person i truly trust... She basically blew me off when I was depressed and wanted to talk to her. Not about her and I, but about my dad. Like... I was in a  bad place... worse I have been... and she didnt give a fuck. Through everything, she has been my BEST friend for the past 6 years... and for her not to even ask how I am doing... (none of my closest friends asked... when They all knew what the day was... )  It hurts. It hurt so bad that i almost fucking ended it. i fucking should have. but instead I just have a nice gash and bruise on my arm. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ZBomber on May 01, 2011, 03:38:12 PM
last night turned into a huge fight. I called her out on the fact that, even though she is the person on earth I am closest to. the only person i truly trust... She basically blew me off when I was depressed and wanted to talk to her. Not about her and I, but about my dad. Like... I was in a  bad place... worse I have been... and she didnt give a fuck. Through everything, she has been my BEST friend for the past 6 years... and for her not to even ask how I am doing... (none of my closest friends asked... when They all knew what the day was... )  It hurts. It hurt so bad that i almost fucking ended it. i fucking should have. but instead I just have a nice gash and bruise on my arm. 

Dude, with all due respect, get out of there. Move out. Nothing good is going to come out of living with her and her family. Nothing.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: 73109 on May 01, 2011, 03:41:49 PM
Um...dude, cutting yourself is not the way to go. I'd seek a therapist. Maybe they can help you through all this.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on May 01, 2011, 10:15:29 PM
 
Um...dude, cutting yourself is not the way to go. I'd seek a therapist. Maybe they can help you through all this.


I never thought I would ever be depressed enough to do it. Let alone twice.  No its not a cry for attention.. I'm telling.you guys because its nice to feel like someone cares. I did some fucked up shit earlier today.  I feel horrible.  I am such a fucked up person. I hurt her so.  baldly todày because of my selfishness and stupidity.   Fuck.  Her whole family is pissed. Fuck. I'm an idiot he.      Hey I love you all. I just want to let you guys know I love you.  All of you.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on May 01, 2011, 10:23:26 PM
Jay, move out right away.  You need to help yourself, no one person is that important to do that to yourself.  Please, for all of us here.  Get your self help and move out.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ZBomber on May 01, 2011, 10:23:54 PM
We love you too dude, but seriously, get out of there as soon as possible. Move home if possible. Or find a friend to crash with for a bit. Or get an apartment. But living there with her is just gonna make things hard for you and her. It's really not worth the trouble man. If you want to one day be friends with her, you need to space yourself from her now and just give you both time to heal and accept it for what it is.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Metropolis Pt. II on May 01, 2011, 10:49:40 PM
^ As hard as that might be to think about, it is probably your best option at this point. Please take care of yourself...
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on May 01, 2011, 11:00:01 PM
I have to wait. No Job no car its going to be a few months beforei can get out.   And I have no where to stay. I have a friend who lives in Hollywood... butits just too far away.   
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on May 02, 2011, 01:33:19 AM
fuck my above post... because I was fucking drunk with depression a few hours ago.. and was trying to post from my phone.

I  fucked up. I sliced the fuck out of my arm... after spending all day trying to contact people... Like... i was freaking out.  Then i sent her a picture. Yes. I cant believe i fucking did it. Well... Her mother... (who drives me in fucking sane... sometimes... but deep down... she cares... ) found out... saw the picture... and wanted to talk to me.  I was freaking out... afraid she was going to kick me out. I thought it was over... I thought I had lost it.

Well... after a long talk... I was afraid it was going to be bad... really bad... but it wasnt. She actually made me feel really good about myself. I havent felt that in like a year... She is going to help me. With getting professorial help. She is going to help me get on my feet... Help me find a car  (she works in the auto industry)... and just... help me. I am going to mend our relationship... Going to start at square one and see where it goes. And if i wind up with just a friend out of her... i guess.. i... will... be ok... I want more. But... I am done being stupid.  I am still deeply depressed... I am probably going to rant on here... but... I am done being a dumbass. 

Thank you again. I seriously am sorry for all the whiny posts... it is just nice to be able to get shit off my chest... with people whom I have a common interest with. I know I said it earlier... but... I like... love... feeling like I'm part of a community. DTF... is one of the few places on the INTERWEBZ that I actually fit in.


-J8VRM
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jsem on May 02, 2011, 02:08:36 AM
Man, I hope you get back on your feet ASAP.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Metropolis Pt. II on May 03, 2011, 01:37:08 AM
That's great to hear that she is willing to help you out. That's very encouraging; I'm glad.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ZBomber on May 03, 2011, 06:00:33 AM
 :tup

Just a word of advice, DON'T try and turn your relationship with your ex into a romantic one now. Maybe some day down the road. But you are in no state for a relationship at the moment, and if you try to, it will only make things worse. For now, like you said, just be friends. After you get through all of this, then maybe you guys will get back together. But if not, life goes on, and someone new will come along.

For now, don't even worry about relationships or anything like that. Sort out what you need to and take care of yourself.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on May 03, 2011, 11:40:44 AM
Another night of me falling asleep confident... and then waking up the next morning, realizing that there is no fucking reason or need for me to be up, or even here... and I try to go back to sleep but with no luck. so I smile and I'll learn to pretend And I'll never be open again And I have no more dreams to defend And I'll never be open again..

fuck.

that is all.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on May 07, 2011, 07:33:10 PM
God. It would be really nice to have friends who would actually want to hang out with me... I cant stand being alone... And when I am not hanging out with my ex (things are ok enough where we can be around eachother. i swallowed my pride and said fuck it. Being around her and with cracked heart is better than being completely alone with a shattered heart)

but when im not with her I am alone. When she isnt with me... she has 100 people to talk to her online / phone / whatever. Im like, ok w/e... But then i realize that the few friends I have... they are either fucking always busy... or i feel liek hanging out with them is causing thier relationship to crumble (2 of my closest friends are dating). Steph.. my ex... is even telling me i can take her car and go do something so i'm not lonely... well  it doesnt fucking matter when no one wants to be around me. fuck
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on May 07, 2011, 08:00:30 PM
Here, let me just scribble something down here


mhm



yup




ok yeah here you go, a prescription for (2) testicles with a tall glass of Man Up And Take Charge Of Your Situation
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on May 07, 2011, 08:02:16 PM
Here, let me just scribble something down here


mhm



yup




ok yeah here you go, a prescription for (2) testicles with a tall glass of Man Up And Take Charge Of Your Situation

isnt that rape?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on May 07, 2011, 08:04:20 PM
Think of life as a potential rape victim
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on May 08, 2011, 07:00:30 AM
I know I shouldn't let internet bullying get under my skin, but it bothers me somewhat that my choice of username alone has essentially ostracized me from the community entire.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Aramatheis on May 08, 2011, 08:48:18 AM
I know I shouldn't let internet bullying get under my skin, but it bothers me somewhat that my choice of username alone has essentially ostracized me from the community entire.

It has?
I haven't been logged in much recently, but I haven't noticed anything of the sort. What's the problem?


Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on May 08, 2011, 09:06:24 AM
Not here; at Kongregate, the Valve forums, and this one called inthe00s.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TimelessSymphony on May 08, 2011, 09:52:55 AM
ok so since i learned that i have a learning disorder i can't decide what i want to do with my life . If you want to know what's my disorder it's M.I.D. (or Mild Intellectual Disorder) or in short retarted... fuck i hate having this disorder because with that i can't go into university so i guess i don't have a future at all fuck!!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jsem on May 08, 2011, 09:55:24 AM
I know I shouldn't let internet bullying get under my skin, but it bothers me somewhat that my choice of username alone has essentially ostracized me from the community entire.
What community.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Aramatheis on May 08, 2011, 10:18:10 AM
Not here; at Kongregate, the Valve forums, and this one called inthe00s.

Three separate forums are ostracizing you because of your username?? Wow.

Obviously these forum guys are retards. I wouldn't pay them any heed.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: FretMuppet on May 08, 2011, 11:32:40 AM
Not here; at Kongregate, the Valve forums, and this one called inthe00s.

They don't know you, they have no reason to insult to, and try not to let them into your mind and upset you, they're asses.

And plus, here you have your DTF bros! For every troll who says something bad about you, you have 100 other DTF'ers who think you're a cool guy  :tup
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on May 08, 2011, 11:38:27 AM
Yeah, it's just frustrating that whenever I try to branch out stupid shit like that gets in the way.  I think I'm more disturbed by the reasoning given to me by one user in particular as to why he chose to pick me out and insult me, that reason being that it was fun.  Now I know the internet is infested with trolls with low self-esteem and nothing better to do, but sometimes it just appalls me what sort of people our internet culture has given birth to.  Sure there've always been bullies, even before the internet, but it's just somewhat saddening to see that.  I don't see why making fun of someone else should ever be fun.  Sure I've lashed out at people when angry but I never do it for entertainment.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: FretMuppet on May 08, 2011, 11:40:50 AM
I guess its just a way of venting their feeling if they may be a 'target' like that in real life
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ricky on May 08, 2011, 05:42:30 PM
Yeah, it's just frustrating that whenever I try to branch out stupid shit like that gets in the way.  I think I'm more disturbed by the reasoning given to me by one user in particular as to why he chose to pick me out and insult me, that reason being that it was fun.  Now I know the internet is infested with trolls with low self-esteem and nothing better to do, but sometimes it just appalls me what sort of people our internet culture has given birth to.  Sure there've always been bullies, even before the internet, but it's just somewhat saddening to see that.  I don't see why making fun of someone else should ever be fun.  Sure I've lashed out at people when angry but I never do it for entertainment.

in all honesty, i never really saw anything wrong with your username.

don't sweat the small shit man, sometimes people can just be inconsiderate. don't let em get to you. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on May 22, 2011, 03:31:34 PM
Depressed...really depressed

Hoping I can make my bills this month. Things don't go as you plan.

I should be fine, but it's like a taunt at me in my mind, if I can survive the next few months. Once I get to September, I am set. It is July and August I am a bit worried about. Mostly August. I may some work lined up, but not set in stone. i really only need to make another $1500 on what I have now or will be making at my other jobs.



Just needed to vent.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on May 24, 2011, 02:00:55 AM
So... still working on my anger issues. Earlier today, I lost it... and... well... i have this cool little wooden shelf that is now in a bunch of pieces... and a possible fracture in my wrist. Do to lack of insurance and too much pride, i will wait and see if it gets better before i get it checked out. The thing that pisses me off is it was my bowling hand. Usually, if i get mad enough to hit something (usually a bush or something along a sidewalk as i walk) i use my left hand. But i didnt think. FUCK


and I am waiting for a call from the county about seeing a therapist. because of all the shit going on with my dads death, The county will pay for any and all psych help I want / need. It is just a matter of waiting.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dublagent66 on May 24, 2011, 08:44:23 AM
Well, there certainly is enough stupid shit in this world to be depressed and angry about, but I keep damage of personal property to a minimum.  A little bit of drywall repair, that's about it.  No flying glassware or controllers through tv screens or anything like that.   :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on May 26, 2011, 02:36:13 PM
I fucking hate not knowing what there is to live for. Who to live for. I need a reason. I need to be needed somehow. I'm not suicidal. Just really fucking depressed. Really fucking Lonely.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: xShammas on May 26, 2011, 09:06:25 PM
I've been out of my rut for a few weeks now finally. The keys (for me anyway), are music, exercise, friends (real friends, no one shady), and hope. The attitude matters so much more than you would think. Instead of thinking "Life sucks, I'm going nowhere", tell yourself how lucky you are just to be alive and cherish the things you do have. Everything heals and gets better eventually, it's just a matter of time.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on May 27, 2011, 06:49:58 AM
I've been out of my rut for a few weeks now finally. The keys (for me anyway), are music, exercise, friends (real friends, no one shady), and hope. The attitude matters so much more than you would think. Instead of thinking "Life sucks, I'm going nowhere", tell yourself how lucky you are just to be alive and cherish the things you do have. Everything heals and gets better eventually, it's just a matter of time.

:tup
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on May 28, 2011, 11:59:56 AM
Ever have a point in your life where you're just like: "fuck the world"?

Yep. That's me
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on May 28, 2011, 12:17:48 PM
we've all been teenagers
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JosephAOI on May 28, 2011, 10:46:06 PM
For the past year and a half to two years or so, me and my mom and sister have been struggling to find the money to get by after my parents got a divorce. My asshole dad won't help us out financially whatsoever because he doesn't think it's his problem at all. In November, my mom, sister and I were evicted from our house and had to live with friends till mid February when we finally got a duplex (that we're living in now). My dad is also living in a duplex with my other 3 year old sister and is doing more than well for himself. Here though, we're behind on almost every single bill (rent, electric, water, etc.) and my mom's gone through more than a few jobs trying to support us. What makes it all worse though is that my sister (who's 15) treats my mom like complete shit despite everything my mom does for her. And I, being a teenager and all as well, have personal problems like not being able to get this girl I really like (Who's two years older than me anyway), dealing with depression, struggling with school, and struggling with my guitar playing and musical career which I feel like isn't going anywhere a lot of times. All in all, I'm mostly worried about my mom's being okay (she has depression too) and us being to be in the same house with all the things we need to live. Sorry to rant about my problems and all but it seems like thats what this thread was for  :P
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on May 29, 2011, 04:40:58 PM
So I heard this is a thread where I can bitch and moan about my general depressive thoughts.



Sup.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MajorMatt on June 05, 2011, 04:06:09 AM
So I heard this is a thread where I can bitch and moan about my general depressive thoughts.



Sup.
Sup. *nods head in general direction*
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on June 05, 2011, 11:32:53 PM
Has anyone here every just felt like fading off into obscurity? I don't know, it's a thought that's been crossing my mind a lot.

I feel less...human lately. I don't know how that makes any sense outside of my own thoughts, but it's how I feel.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: black_biff_stadler on June 05, 2011, 11:38:00 PM
Has anyone here every just felt like fading off into obscurity? I don't know, it's a thought that's been crossing my mind a lot.

I feel less...human lately. I don't know how that makes any sense outside of my own thoughts, but it's how I feel.

You mean like laying low for a few months and being a little solitary to recharge your batteries or were you hinting at that?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on June 05, 2011, 11:56:38 PM
If by that you are implying suicide, no never no no no no no. I am strictly against the idea in every way possible. I've had experiences with it in the past. And the very idea of it still makes me distressed at least a little bit (and the idea of death as well. I mean, I used to have major issues with it as a child)


And I don't really know...what I mean is the weird part. I just...don't understand my existence. I mean, I know what I want to do, where I want to go, and everything like that. I just don't know what validates ANY of that. And sometimes I wonder if my loneliness is a catalyst for such thoughts, but fuck if I know.

I guess what I'm saying is I think about what not existing would be like. What it would be like to just disappear. Or to have not existed at all. Who it would affect and all that cliche shit. I mean, I have a hard enough time accepting that people give a shit about me sometimes. Comes with a lack of confidence and trust in people.


If ANY OF THAT makes sense at all.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on June 06, 2011, 12:00:08 AM
What your feeling is perfectly normal. Go for a long walk, bring some music.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on June 06, 2011, 12:03:26 AM
That sounds lovely. But I have two group projects to do, am working all week and still have to write a paper.

Maybe once school is over.

I think what bothers me more though is this sense of not feeling human or like I feel I should feel like. It's that feeling that...I'm stuck in a place where I can hardly better myself or advance myself to the person I want to be while most people I know have already had so many experiences that I either missed out on or am just really late to the game.


Okay, now I'm just whining. brb sleep.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on June 06, 2011, 12:05:27 AM
You're human. Trust me. You advance slowly but surely, you'll get where you're going eventually, just calm down and pay attention to the journey.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: SPNKr on June 06, 2011, 09:07:35 PM
I used to feel alien or alienated a lot late last year so I can relate to Lat. I used to hate almost everyone I saw everyday and life just didn't feel right, but I met new people and ended up focusing on goals without realising. I guess with time you need to find where you are and what you're doing.

I think what fixed me up was new people coming into my class, being more outgoing because of the outgoing nature I'm around the quality of the people in my class. New teacher that knows her shit, that kind of thing. I think those things faded that crap I felt away.
Oh and here's some good advice, stop giving a fuck. :tup
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ricky on June 06, 2011, 09:23:07 PM
Oh and here's some good advice, stop giving a fuck. :tup

smart words from a very smart man.



hang in there lat, big nasty's got ur back.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Marvellous G on June 08, 2011, 05:03:06 PM
I've been feeling a lot like Lat has recently. I just feel kind of apathetic towards... everything. I know that's a classic symptom of depression, but I've been pretty damn depressed before and it's never felt like this. It's like, I realise that I'm not hugely happy at the minute, but I don't connect with it and feel sad per se. It's a pretty sucky feeling, as it's not even the 'I don't feel like doing anything' kind of apathy. I still love my music and my friends and family, but there's just something... missing.

I feel like a long walk late at night with some folk music would cure this pretty damn well, but my parents don't allow me out after dark and sneaking out isn't really an option, so I guess I'll just have to sit and let the thoughts fester.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JustJen on June 08, 2011, 06:40:47 PM
Yeah, I have no human interaction aside from internet and husband and three kids. My parents are both dead, my brothers live all over the place and have their own lives, and I haven't had an actual friend who I knew well enough to pick up a phone and call for about 20 years, aside from one person who lives hours away who I used to be close to but who ended up breaking every written and unwritten rule of friendship.

Not one friend. Not one family member.

For 20 years.

My life consists of dicking aruond on the internet, cleaning up after other people, and running errands.

Checkmate, thread.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on June 08, 2011, 06:43:54 PM
Yeah, I have no human interaction aside from internet and husband and three kids. My parents are both dead, my brothers live all over the place and have their own lives, and I haven't had an actual friend who I knew well enough to pick up a phone and call for about 20 years, aside from one person who lives hours away who I used to be close to but who ended up breaking every written and unwritten rule of friendship.

Not one friend. Not one family member.

For 20 years.

My life consists of dicking aruond on the internet, cleaning up after other people, and running errands.

Checkmate, thread.

The only person I can really call is my mom. I have no friends in Chicago, no family here, no girlfriend or anything else. My life consists of dicking around on the internet.

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on June 09, 2011, 12:11:00 AM
I think the worst part about me lately is that even with all of my friends and family, I don't feel comfortable fully venting this to them. I hint at it once in a while and kind of clue them in that I'm not happy. But there is something about that makes me think "Pffft, they probably just think I'm being a whiny bitch so shut up they aren't going to help". Wrong or not, that's how it processes in my head.

And yet, I know a lot of this is all in my head. Just as mentioned in the Gorillaz song Clint Eastwood "No squealing remember that it's all in your head". Insecurities and such.

I don't know, I feel like my depressed states of mind are a result of whatever this sense of loneliness is that I feel AND from constant self doubt (especially with my direction in life). Nothing I do in life at the moment feels fully validated, either.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoQYw49saqc
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DarkEternalNight on June 09, 2011, 01:08:03 AM
Just read through the past few pages. Sending good vibes to everyone.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Marvellous G on June 11, 2011, 02:39:01 PM
Well I've sunk back into my first bout of being properly depressed since about a year ago. Great.
Title: Happy Birthday, sonatafanica!
Post by: sonatafanica on June 11, 2011, 11:10:13 PM
so i just turned 20. no more being a teenager.



it's probably the most fucking depressing thing that's ever happened to me.



so just a few minutes ago i got really down and decided to go take my dog for a walk. and i just started thinking about what being in my 20s means. and i started to think of all the people in their 20s that i know and they all seem to be so content. maybe apprehensive, but they're collected and happy people for the most part. like they've figured something out.

and then i took a look at what being a teenager was like. i tried to pick out the times when i was truly genuinely happy. and that was high school. i was so happy then. i had a job, i had bought my own car, i had hobbies and friends, and i had a goddamn girlfriend. isn't that fucking crazy? there was another person, another human being who said "love ya" to me every day. that's just fucking insane, how does that even exist?

anyway

and i started thinking about really changing my mindset. i'm a sad, sappy almost defeatist type and it's just really pathetic and depressing and no one wants to hear that shit, you know? just fucking get up and move along, nothing's that bad.

i dunno, i guess i've just had a life that's so uneventful and boring that it just ends up by default being shitty. like, whenever there's news in my life it's never good or anything, it's just that something has gone wrong or i've wasted a lot of time, effort, and money on something.

so yeah, i'm thinking about all this and thinking about changing my worldview. people with actual problems don't complain about shit as much as i do. i go another day being lonely and directionless in life and i mope around about it, but someone i know has a family member in the hospital and shit and they just deal with it. how fucking immature of me. my life isn't that bad that i need to be so down all the time. don't get me wrong, my life is still a boring amalgamation of unexciting events that have little or no consequence, but i have nothing to complain about. that's how i have to think from now on. good things happen. they do, you just have to stop being a pussy about everything and actually make an attempt to enjoy a day like a regular person. like an ADULT.


so just then, as my dog is sniffing a tree, a van pulls up and a guy says, "hey can you help us? we're lost, we're trying to find--" and the doors of the van open and a bunch of dudes just start pelting me with eggs and drive off.




tl;dr

i hate positive attitudes

i'm gonna hate shit until i die

fuck the police


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Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ravenheart on June 11, 2011, 11:23:48 PM
I can empathize with you, Chris, even if I haven't hit 20 yet.

I compare myself to others and feel like I haven't accomplished anything in my life. Nothing. And whenever I feel like doing something big or really step it up, I just feel like, "why bother?" and go back to doing whatever pleasant but useless task I can use to fill my time with.

I can't really offer any advice. Just pursue with your art and your endeavors and hope that it will be worth it in the end. Ambition does pay off.

Sorry if none of this is really any consolation. I don't know what to say or offer, other than my empathy  :-\
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Post by: ZBomber on June 11, 2011, 11:26:31 PM
Chris, you have more going for you in life than most of us do.  :lol

You're like.... internet famous. I'm sure if those kids knew that you were a webcomic designer, they would have thought twice and you would have been pelted with twice the amount of eggs
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
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Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on June 11, 2011, 11:52:44 PM
You know Chris, I often feel something relatively similar. In fact, I thought about similar things during the walk I took today (which lately is a rare occurrence either due to busy schedules or Washington having shit weather. But today was beautiful out. So I said "Fuck it, let's take an evening stroll"). I also had a run in with jackasses on the way back home during my walk as well, but nothing nearly as severe. Just some dudes yelling "Fag!" as I was trying to enjoy a peaceful walk while listening to Ghost.

Which actually brought me to taking a brief thought. Why is it that while I'm just trying to take a moment to seek inner peace, someone has to interject and be a cockslap about it? I mean, I was just walking alone on a dark road at night. What am I doing that makes me a "fag"? I mean sure, I had my fair share of drive by yellings. And yes, it's a fairly teenage thing to do. I just don't quite get WHY.

Anyway, so back to depression. I walked by a park bench I remember cuddling with my ex on back well over a year ago (February, I do believe). I sat down on it and had one of those "Well, nothing here. Movin' on" sort of moments. And by moving on I mean melancholic nostalgia. At least it was nice out today.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ravenheart on June 12, 2011, 12:14:40 AM
I know this sounds like a really cliche and obvious answer, Alex, but anyone who acts like that towards a stranger minding their own business is probably a punk who has a grim future ahead of him, anyway. You're smarter and more mature than that, and that's definitely something to be proud of. Too many teenagers get stuck in that stage of moronic thinking where it's cool to yell "FAG" at people.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on June 12, 2011, 12:19:08 AM
When I'm in a really "high on life" sort of mood, I sometimes yell at strangers. But I don't yell fag. I yell compliments.


"I LIKE YOUR DOG"
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ravenheart on June 12, 2011, 12:21:45 AM
Yell one at me.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on June 12, 2011, 12:22:47 AM
If I see you this summer while I'm in Arizona, I totally will.


YOU LOOK LIKE A NICE PERSON
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ravenheart on June 12, 2011, 12:23:48 AM
D'aww shucks :3

But yeah, if I'm in town when you're in town, we'll meet up and enact in mirth and conversation.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on June 12, 2011, 12:25:25 AM
Don't slap me if I look at your hair quite often. I know where your eyes are woman.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ravenheart on June 12, 2011, 12:27:34 AM
I'll consider it. Just remember that I'm not some fluffy head designed specifically to ogle.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: dethklok09 on June 12, 2011, 12:36:52 AM
Been reading the last few posts and I can relate to that kind of shit. But I think what is making myself the most depressed is that I don't feel like I belong anywhere. I don't feel I fit in with any group of people or anything. All I'm descent at is music and thats the only thing I can feel connected with people on. But besides being in a musical setting any group of people i'm with I feel like the guy who just tags along and isn't really part of the circle. I guess i'm just sad because of my lack of being socially accepted and not really belonging anywhere.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: chknptpie on June 12, 2011, 11:27:49 AM
DTF Meet up in AZ?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ravenheart on June 12, 2011, 11:29:56 AM
DTF Meet up in AZ?
I'm thinking yes  :millahhhh
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on June 12, 2011, 11:30:42 AM
DTF Meet up in AZ?
I'm thinking yes  :millahhhh
Awwww yeah.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: chknptpie on June 12, 2011, 11:31:43 AM
DTF Meet up in AZ?
I'm thinking yes  :millahhhh
Awwww yeah.

WEWT!  :metal Let me know when this shit is happening!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on June 12, 2011, 11:33:10 AM
Depending if Zander is in town, I'll be in Cave Creek from July 5th to July 17th. So, somewhere in that window of time.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: chknptpie on June 12, 2011, 11:38:18 AM
Cool! Shouldn't have any problem with those dates.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on June 12, 2011, 01:34:37 PM
I can't stand being human. I spent the past few days away from home doing everything short of getting completely wasted to keep my mind off her... but I can't control my dreams. As soon as I fall asleep, guess who is there haunting my dreams ....  fucking shit.
 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: xShammas on June 12, 2011, 10:13:32 PM
I can't stand being human. I spent the past few days away from home doing everything short of getting completely wasted to keep my mind off her... but I can't control my dreams. As soon as I fall asleep, guess who is there haunting my dreams ....  fucking shit.
 
...Natalie Portman?

 ;D
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on June 13, 2011, 12:13:19 AM
So I've been reluctant to either mention this anywhere or even want to think about it, but I think that my parents might be...coming close to...a divorce.

Two nights ago they had been arguing a lot most of the night (and it took place around midnight) while I was trying to sleep. I heard the words "seperate", "divorce" and "counseling" thrown about several times. Sure, part of me is in denial that there is no fucking way it'll happen. But I don't actually know.

And this makes me wonder "If my own parents can't hold their own fucking relationship. what makes me think I'm going to be "good enough" or able to do so in the future.


Gah. Fuck. Balls. Boners.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on June 13, 2011, 12:18:03 AM

I can't stand being human. I spent the past few days away from home doing everything short of getting completely wasted to keep my mind off her... but I can't control my dreams. As soon as I fall asleep, guess who is there haunting my dreams ....  fucking shit.
 
 
...Natalie Portman?

 ;D

 
Lol no...

That was good though
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Lotion on June 14, 2011, 03:24:48 PM
I've been there. You just gotta step out of it! I'm just done with high school, out of 3 years I got 1,25 year abscence. Around new year I got dumped by my girlfriend, thrown out of the house by my father, getting warnings from school that I was going to fail, got arrested for being involved in buying pot(wich i wasn't, still got fined) and my brother got beaten up and threatened with a gun by some muslims.

Suddenly I could'nt control myself I was hitting the wall until I bled everyday. Couldn't go to school, every blonde girl looked like my ex, every thought i had annoyed me. Smoked pot everytime I was down. Only thing I was looking forward to was getting drunk every weekend. I felt like I was becomming the person that would smoke weed everyday and live on welfare (like on of my friends). So i had to step out of it. Achievements was what made me realize that I could do something. First step was to complete high school, so I went from 1,6/6 in average grades the first semester to 4,8/6, which is good enough to study in Australia, which has been a dream for years. 3 Months ago I was about to fail in every subject.

I know that my depressions haven't been as serious and lasting, but atleast that was my experience from depression.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on June 15, 2011, 08:02:49 AM
Not really depressed or angry, but I would like to say that trying in one week to make the choices that will determine the entire rest of your life is a nerve-wracking affair.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: 73109 on June 15, 2011, 08:06:37 AM
What's going on?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on June 15, 2011, 08:12:32 AM
Choosing between continuing along with my Politics major and entering academia, which would mean taking a one- or two-year Master's program either at my current school or elsewhere, followed by a Ph.D at some other university, which would lead to me becoming a Political Theory professor or something.  I would love that because then I could basically become this one professor who I love at my university; he's brilliant, the field he teaches and studies in is so interesting, and he writes books about an awesome subject which is something I'd love to do.

The thing is I'm not entirely certain that's the track I want to follow, considering my interests in Politics intersect really closely with History.  But that would mean declaring a History major in my senior year and taking a fifth and maybe even sixth year of undergrad, and then following that with a Masters program either there or (hopefully) at UPenn, and then maybe a Ph.D.  Following that track I'd still be in school at 30 years-old, but I might achieve a private dream of mine of teaching high school history courses at private schools such as the one I went to.  I had this one European History teacher in my senior year of high school who I considered a god, and having his job was my dream job.

No matter which way I slice it, the road there is one massive headache.  I'm just trying to figure out which is the lesser of two headaches and which one will be more personally rewarding in the end.  Moral of the story: don't whittle away your undergrad time pursuing a path you think your parents and society consider more useful, practical, and inclined towards success.  Just follow your bliss, and if you're good at it you will be successful anyway.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: 73109 on June 15, 2011, 08:18:15 AM
Personally, I'd pick the first. Getting a PhD and teaching at a college is a dream of mine, but if you would rather get a job as a HS teacher, go for that, bro. I think teaching at a college is more of a better bet, money wise, and as you said, it will take less time, but if that is what you really want, go for it man.

edit: And for your piece of advice...I plan on majoring in philosophy. I don't think whittling away my undergrad time pursuing a path I think my parents and society consider more useful, practical, and inclined towards success is much of an issue. :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Marvellous G on June 15, 2011, 08:31:15 AM
Majoring in Philosophy ftw. It's what I'm planning to do at Uni.

However, I am starting to worry about life after that; the only way Philosophy will actually get me any jobs is if I do it at Oxford or Cambridge, as any degree from those two gets you a job. I know it's better to do what you enjoy than anything else, but I'm starting to realise how impractical a choice Philosophy is, as much as I love it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: 73109 on June 15, 2011, 08:35:31 AM
Well, not sure what the system is in the UK, but a philosophy is just as great of a "pre-law" major as Poly-Sci, so you might want to look into that.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Marvellous G on June 15, 2011, 09:08:20 AM
Here I'm doing it as a Uni degree, so I'm not really knowledgeable enough about the US system to know what the equivalent is.

Philosophy isn't looked down on when applying for jobs per se (probably kind of the opposite), it just doesn't directly lead to any careers directly, which is annoying.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on June 20, 2011, 06:03:10 PM
I've felt more depressed the past two days than I have in a long time. I don't know what the fuck to do with myself. Why can't I let go of things as easy as I thought I could?

Fuckin hell.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: dethklok09 on June 20, 2011, 06:05:52 PM
Find something new to do to keep youself occupied. Learn a new type of skill like drawing (if you were never much of one). I dunno its always been easy for me to let go of stuff by filling their spot with something new preferably in an artistic format.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on June 20, 2011, 06:09:33 PM
I don't know how to explain it, but somehow my mind always drifts back to all the things that depress me. No matter what I do. I either start thinking about this eternal sense of loneliness I can't seem to shake, or I think about how much I despise yet love certain people. I just have no idea what I'm doing anymore, nor do I know how to fully get my mind off of it.

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on June 20, 2011, 11:28:20 PM
i'm pretty sure i might be a little bit chemically unbalanced in the brain region
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Post by: nikatapi on June 22, 2011, 05:31:14 AM
I don't know how to explain it, but somehow my mind always drifts back to all the things that depress me. No matter what I do. I either start thinking about this eternal sense of loneliness I can't seem to shake, or I think about how much I despise yet love certain people. I just have no idea what I'm doing anymore, nor do I know how to fully get my mind off of it.



Its like you are in my head. I face the same situation.
I might seek medical advice in the coming month, because recently things get worse for me, and i'm not sure how to deal with it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on June 22, 2011, 08:01:41 PM
I'm feeling absolutely useless right now. 

Granted, this is an absolutely justifiable feeling, undoubtedly induced by the fact that I am, in fact, useless.  But it usually doesn't bother me like this, so either I'm in an especially rare form of uselessness or I'm just particularly noticing my customary uselessness now more than usual for some reason.  Either way, it feels like shit.  It's not that I really want to accomplish any thing major, but I feel like I'm not having enough fun. 

My general resolve with this kind of problem (which I've had before) is to just take necessary actions in order to take my mind off of my uselessness with some sort of distraction, instead of taking actions to make myself feel useful.  I guess my problem now is either that these little distractions have run dry and need to be replaced or that I'm gradually getting to the point in my life where I'm going to consider my usefulness a lot more (or lack thereof) and get more and more depressed about it.  I'd like to be the kind of person who can really buckle down and find a way to make good use of himself, but it just doesn't happen for me, and when I try that approach with something like music I lose inspiration as soon as I don't feel like I'm making a use of my time with it.  If I was good enough at it, perhaps I'd get at least a modest sense of purposiveness.  So, in conciser words, I'm either looking for something to not only channel inspiration into but actually create inspiration for in the first place or something utterly useless that will take my mind off of my lack of purpose and interestingness, at least for the time being.  Maybe doing drugs is the answer or something.   

Oh, wait, I don't even have access to drugs, right.  Point is that I've really got to find something that makes me feel less like I might as well just roll over and die like an old, sick dog. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: dethklok09 on June 23, 2011, 10:40:53 PM
I dont even see why I bother posting in this thread anymore, Its all just a bunch of teenage bullshit anyway, well fuck it.

My teacher a couple of weeks ago sort of nudged at something thats been bothering me for a while. We were watching awakenings and at the end of the movie when Dr. Sayer ran after the female nurse and asked to go out with her. He commented that that was how I was going to ask out a girl, it was sort of nudging that I miss so many oppurtunities and completely doubt obvious signs that someone likes me or that I have a good shot at something. I have started to think to myself and realize this is true, I seem to see the worst possible outcome and look at almost anything as people feeling sorry for me or are just messing with me. The thing is though, is that I have never seized any of those oppurtunities or taken any chances. I have thought to myself and asked if this mental processing is only killing me, why dont I stop and seize oppurtunities and take chances. Possibly I might be comfortable being looked at as the quiet kid, and always feeling depressed on the inside. It could be possible being that its something I often feel. The only things I can think of that comfort me is my guitar playing and rowing. They seem to be the few things I've actually been complimented on and I guess you could say be somewhat good at. Even then though I still feel people may just be saying that just to make me feel better because in reality I could just be complete rat piss at those.

Whatever I'm a fucking whiny little teenager. What the fuck would I know about pain, I feel like a piece of horse shit when I'm complaining over trivial bull shit when others actually have problems. I wonder why people would want to make me feel better knowing that kind of shit. Maybe they are just mocking me.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: dongringo on June 23, 2011, 11:07:45 PM
I've ignored this thread for too long so time to post something really depressing.

My dear twin brother, who is bi-polar to the extreme and has tried to commit suicide in various ways around 13 or 14 times now (lost track), has done it again and is in the hospital once again. This time though, it's been 5 days and he doesn't know who I am and can't communicate.

And to top it off, I come from a very small and scattered family and he's the only person I've ever been close to. We grew up together and have always had the same taste in everything, including DT. He's the only person, if who dies, I wouldn't be able to live.

This has been going on for years, but this time is too much. The doc is talking significant brain damage. I can't live without my twin brother in my life. And his daughter will be lost without her daddy.

Not only that, but my mom, who lives in another state is out of work, injured, and getting kicked out of her apartment and losing her car and everything else. But I'm going through a lawsuit right now which has taken any extra income away, which isn't much, from me to my lawyer, and I have to be here for my brother, so what do I do about that? My younger brother lives near her, but his wife is a bitch and won't let her live with them under any circumstances, but her family from Peru can stay for months at a time. WTF?

Not only that, my dad had a massive stroke, then proceeded to lose his mind and make enemies with me and everyone else he knows, including his wife, who has nothing to do with him, but thankfully still gives him a place to live out his miserable existence. I haven't talked to him for over a year because everything is everyone else's fault but his.

Plus I'm on the verge of losing my job due to company financial issues. And I have no savings, thanks to my lawyer.

How's that for depressing. I figured I've been here long enough now to dump what's on my plate.

Sincerely,

dongringo
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Post by: dongringo on June 24, 2011, 07:57:37 AM
Didn't mean to stop the thread in it's tracks.  :lol

Carry on! Just needed a dump last night.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ZBomber on June 24, 2011, 08:14:35 AM
I've ignored this thread for too long so time to post something really depressing.
...

Ouch dude.  :( Hope things turn around for you
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on June 30, 2011, 02:49:43 AM
So I had some what of a realization tonight while out with some close friends. We gone out for a late evening walk around Seattle and stopped by a local park. As we walked around the park, we saw a group of kids a couple of years younger than us who were completely wasted and super high. Part of me found it kind of sad/funny to see these kids waste their lives away like this.

But then there is the other part of me, that gets into a depressed state of mind, that I've never been part of that group of people. I know I know, that sounds fucking stupid Alex. What the hell are you talking about? Okay, let me elaborate. As a teenager, I spent the majority of my time sitting at home, playing vidja games, watching movies/tv shows/anime, hating the world, etc. I didn't start to actually enjoy myself or go out and have fun until maybe the middle of my Junior year of high school. Even then I was just barely getting used to have my close circle of friends to do dumb, nerdy shit with.

My issue is that...well...when seeing these kids wasting away, I think to myself "What did I miss out on as a high school student with no responsibilities and extremely lenient parents. Why didn't I find my way into the groups of people who had fun every weekend, just to live a little bit more than I claim to have been". And I this saddens me on several levels, because for one I shouldn't be worrying about what I didn't do and I should be worrying about what to do next. The other thing is I just don't feel like I've fully lived without making all these mistakes everyone else I know seems to have made (drinking, random sex with people, whateverthefuckelse). And lately I've just been a bit bitter about it all in general.

So anyway, to keep this lengthy (and probably ignorable) rant a bit short, I feel like there is this part of me that just needs to get as much of this as I can out of my system as soon as possible and then move on from there. Which I think might be at least partially possible when I'm in Arizona, because I have a few more contacts with people who like to party/get wasted/whateverthefuckelse. I just want to binge on this and get it the fuck out of my system so I can at least say "I've done this.".


If ANY of that made sense, that is.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ravenheart on July 23, 2011, 12:32:09 AM
I've been having suicidal thoughts regularly for the last week or so.

They're all oddly comforting in their own way. I don't think it's normal, but that's what they feel like.

I'm actually not even depressed or upset over them, but this feels like the right thread to post this in.
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Post by: MasterShakezula on July 23, 2011, 12:36:42 AM
Don't do it!  I actually relate to you better and tolerate you far more than the majority of people I come across in real life.  Plus, dying is totally weak and stuff. 
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Post by: lateralus88 on July 23, 2011, 12:37:38 AM
I have an interesting history with suicide. One of my best friends attempted it, another best friend didn't do it because I was there for him, my first girlfriend had attempted it while we dated and well I played around with the idea and almost brought myself to it multiple times in the past.

But in the end I know that suicide is the worst possible thing you could ever do. It does absolutely no good. It's just the wrong way out. It means you've given up. And I know that. But yet I still think about it constantly lately. Not so much as a possibility, but muttering the words "I want to die" every now and then. And wondering "Would so and so even give a fuck?" or "what would be different?"

Now as for you Zander. You are awesome. One of the coolest people I have the privilege to say I've met in person and can talk to on a borderline regular basis. I hope you don't ever come even relatively close to doing such a thing to those around you and yourself. Because, and I'm sure many would agree, I'd miss the fuck out of you.




And it's no fun if your corpse can't say no.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on July 23, 2011, 12:38:43 AM
I've been having suicidal thoughts regularly for the last week or so.

They're all oddly comforting in their own way. I don't think it's normal, but that's what they feel like.

I'm actually not even depressed or upset over them, but this feels like the right thread to post this in.

Everybody considers suicide at some point or another.
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Post by: dethklok09 on July 23, 2011, 12:42:23 AM
I've considered suicide before but nothing like extreme consideration, but I have often wondered about who would care if I commited suicide.
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Post by: Ravenheart on July 23, 2011, 12:43:55 AM
Thanks, guys.

I've struggled with it plenty of times in the past and I've attempted it on several occasions.


This just feels different. I don't know. They just feel comforting but without any moroseness. It's like I'd fully accept it.

But I think I've established myself here enough so that everyone knows I'm fucking weird in general, so it shouldn't be too surprising.

I am suspecting this is just a phase I'm going through and will pass soon. I hope it will at least.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MasterShakezula on July 23, 2011, 12:44:19 AM
I've considered suicide before but nothing like extreme consideration, but I have often wondered about who would care if I commited suicide.


Well the loss of a member who actually enjoys metal would prove devastating to this forum, considering there's like 6 of us who even fit that description.  
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on July 23, 2011, 12:45:13 AM
I've considered suicide before but nothing like extreme consideration, but I have often wondered about who would care if I commited suicide.



ive wondered that too... and got even more depressed when i tried to count the people that would care.... but hey one is enough.

plus we all have eachother


-yeshomogrouphug-
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on July 23, 2011, 12:46:58 AM
Thanks, guys.

I've struggled with it plenty of times in the past and I've attempted it on several occasions.


This just feels different. I don't know. They just feel comforting but without any moroseness. It's like I'd fully accept it.

But I think I've established myself here enough so that everyone to knows I'm fucking weird in general, so it shouldn't be too surprising.

I am suspecting this is just a phase I'm going through and will pass soon. I hope it will at least.
I might not be the best guy to be saying this but I know it won't be a permanent state of mind. If you ask me you are just simply not completely in tune with your own self (I know, I sound like a no good hippie. Shut up). A loss of perspective is a loss of wholeness in many cases (I am not an expert in this but whatever).
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Jirpo on July 23, 2011, 12:53:48 AM
One day I just thought about it and told myself I would never, ever commit suicide, under any circumstances. Now I feel completely comfortable, because even if I feel depressed or jokingly think about it, I know it will never happen. I dunno, maybe I'm just not depressed enough.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MasterShakezula on July 23, 2011, 12:56:54 AM
I have no interest in suicide, whatsoever.  Never have and never will, cause, really, life's too short as it is, and I wanna do shit, and such. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on July 23, 2011, 12:58:15 AM
I have no interest in suicide, whatsoever.  Never have and never will, cause, really, life's too short as it is, and I wanna do shit, and such. 

i wont let you die a virgin.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Jirpo on July 23, 2011, 12:59:04 AM
I have no interest in suicide, whatsoever.  Never have and never will, cause, really, life's too short as it is, and I wanna do shit, and such. 
Yeah pretty much this for me :)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MasterShakezula on July 23, 2011, 12:59:30 AM
I have no interest in suicide, whatsoever.  Never have and never will, cause, really, life's too short as it is, and I wanna do shit, and such. 

i wont let you die a virgin.

Thank you for being willing to make me lose my virginity.  You have no idea how much that means to me.  ^^
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: dethklok09 on July 23, 2011, 12:59:45 AM
I refuse to die before I see one of these bands in concert


System of a down
Pain of salvation
Arcade fire
Or some other of my favorite shitty music
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: dethklok09 on July 23, 2011, 01:00:12 AM
I have no interest in suicide, whatsoever.  Never have and never will, cause, really, life's too short as it is, and I wanna do shit, and such. 

i wont let you die a virgin.

Thank you for being willing to make me lose my virginity.  You have no idea how much that means to me.  ^^
Technically he never said he would do that
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on July 23, 2011, 01:00:51 AM
I refuse to die before I see one of these bands in concert


System of a down
Pain of salvation
Arcade fire
Or some other of my favorite shitty music

for me it's Pink Floyd.


I WILL NEVER DIE!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ravenheart on July 23, 2011, 01:03:01 AM
Music really helps me cope with all of my nonstop insecurities and frustrations in life.

I guess that's why most of my favorite artists all have gloomy lyrics--Emilie Autumn, Nine Inch Nails, Depeche Mode. Heh... oh well. I love my music. I don't give a fuck if people judge me for it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: dethklok09 on July 23, 2011, 01:03:27 AM

I refuse to die before I see one of these bands in concert


System of a down
Pain of salvation
Arcade fire
Or some other of my favorite shitty music

for me it's Pink Floyd.


I WILL NEVER DIE!
I never thought I'd say this but now I sort of wish you had the ability to die
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on July 23, 2011, 01:05:26 AM

I refuse to die before I see one of these bands in concert


System of a down
Pain of salvation
Arcade fire
Or some other of my favorite shitty music

for me it's Pink Floyd.


I WILL NEVER DIE!
I never thought I'd say this but now I sort of wish you had the ability to die

I know right? seriously i would be ok with dying after seeing Pink Floyd.. whether its with or without roger
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: dethklok09 on July 23, 2011, 01:06:53 AM
Actually now that I think about it I'd be happy with just seeing David Gilmour live.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on July 23, 2011, 01:07:03 AM
I've seen my top 5. I guess I can die now.


Actually no I still need to direct Sonata's script.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Jirpo on July 23, 2011, 01:09:52 AM
Music really helps me cope with all of my nonstop insecurities and frustrations in life.

I guess that's why most of my favorite artists all have gloomy lyrics--Emilie Autumn, Nine Inch Nails, Depeche Mode. Heh... oh well. I love my music. I don't give a fuck if people judge me for it.
Obviously no-one will judge you here for what music you listen to :) Or are you talking about real life?

Maybe its just me, but I find gloomy music just makes me feel worse when I'm depressed - I usually listen to some fast-paced, rocking stuff. Of course it might be different for you :)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ravenheart on July 23, 2011, 01:15:22 AM
I just meant in general. I didn't mean anyone specifically.

For me, oddly, depressing music cheers me up. I don't know why. I guess just knowing someone else is or was feeling down gives me a sense of consolation. I dunno, I'm weird like that.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lonestar on July 23, 2011, 01:35:22 AM
Raven, there is nothing wrong with that. I do it too.  Having someone,especially an artist you enjoy, echo your own emotions gives them credence. Go with it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ravenheart on July 23, 2011, 01:39:10 AM
Absolutely. Trent Reznor kept me from blowing my brains out in middle and high school. I think connecting with music is a wonderful thing.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: dethklok09 on July 23, 2011, 01:42:12 AM
For some reason I actually like depressing music when i'm depressed. I dunno I guess its comforting to know your not alone
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MasterShakezula on July 23, 2011, 01:48:37 AM
When I'm feeling down, I sleep.  When I wake up, I then walk for a couple hours, or listen go some upbeat jazz.  Or Pink Floyd.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lonestar on July 23, 2011, 02:00:34 AM
Peter Nichols of IQ did the same thing for me 20 years ago, and I still grow and develop every time I listen. Just make a concious effort to come out of the music more concious of what troubles you, dont let it make you dwell on the downside of things.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: dongringo on July 23, 2011, 07:57:41 AM
For me, oddly, depressing music cheers me up. I don't know why. I guess just knowing someone else is or was feeling down gives me a sense of consolation. I dunno, I'm weird like that.

It makes sense actually. It's like Steven Wilson said when asked why he writes such sad music. He mentioned that like him, there are others who find beauty in sadness.

As far as suicide, sometimes people who are suicidal minimize the effect it would have on others. My twin brother has tried to commit suicide 13 times now and almost succeeded each and every time. The last time was only a month ago and he was in the hospital in a coma for two weeks. The last few years have been brutal to say the least. Every time he tries it, I can hardly function and it effects my work and every other aspect of my life. It has given me extreme anxiety and has given me depression problems myself. Every time he ends up in the hospital, I feel like I've died a little more. His wife and daughter have also been effected to the point that both of them have developed anxiety disorder and depression as well. If he dies, it would be devastating for all of us and I don't think I would be able to go on. My life would turn from living to just existing. Please think of those who love you. And I know there are people who do. Suicide is the ultimate selfish act.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ACID_FOX on July 23, 2011, 10:18:33 AM
(https://img855.imageshack.us/img855/8829/hanginthere001.jpg)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ħ on August 01, 2011, 02:49:15 AM
The only reason I haven't commit suicide yet is because I'm clinging to the hope of God.  Without him I don't think there's much purpose for anything, so why suffer.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on August 07, 2011, 03:39:01 PM
From a "friend" of mine who was determined at the beginning of this summer to patch things up between us.  We've been engaged in a number of political debates since then.  Names have been replaced for anonymity.

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Hey SD,

 

So, I was talking to Derp earlier, and I told him how we are talking again. He, as I, was happy to hear that. So, naturally I touched upon why you unfriended me in the first place: the past. Although we really didn’t get too deep into detail, it got me thinking about something I found to be interesting, and perhaps something for you to think about. Although you say history is something we can learn from, is nonetheless irrelevant to analyzing the present, I strongly disagree. The whole economics, history, and other such fields would strongly disagree with you on this point as well. But the one industry, which I want to touch upon in this email, which would strongly disagree with you, is the psychological industry.

Although I do not have a phd in psychology, I have known enough people majoring in it, I speak with a psychologist regularly during the school year, and have, surprisingly taken a lot of courses on the subject in both high school and college. Also, let us not forget, I do have a lot of background in economics, which is, by definition, a study of human action (psychological/sociological/etc). But to stay on point, the psychological industry would highly disagree with you because analyzing people, psychologically, requires knowledge of a person’s past, because the past of necessity influences their future behavior (i.e. how you were raised is a very strong indicator of how you will turn out in the future as an individual).

So, as the subject suggests, I wish to briefly talk about the dreaded “middle school days” and how that, I feel, has affected you today. I am going to, as I always request of you, stay very objective, stick to the factual actions that I have observed and also point to the speculations I have made.

Now, before I continue, let me point out that nothing in this email is to bash you in any way, I just thought this analysis was interesting and that perhaps you could get something out of it; if not, toss it and forget it.

So, as we know, your middle school days were pretty rough. I think it would be fair to say you were bullied at School and, from what I understand, and during high school as well. So, what is bullying? Well, according to the dictionary definition, to bully someone is to “use superior strength or influence to intimidate (someone), typically to force him or her to do what one wants.” I know that myself and others (Herp, Sherpa, etc) all teased you and had you do some silly things, just because you were easy to convince in this manner. Now, although you weren’t physically bullied, at least not by us (i.e. hung upside for your lunch money lol), you were emotionally bullied and forced into situations you probably would have wished you could’ve stayed away from. I don’t know exactly about high school, but perhaps you were but I don’t know.

In any case, you were clearly bullied at one time. Now, you can disagree with me, but I can, with certainty, tell you that the core ideology and belief behind a bully’s actions relies on force and control. These actions and beliefs may arise from a certain trigger, perhaps insecurities, peer pressure, etc, but nonetheless bullies are driven, philosophically, by control.

So, what did you do, per my observations, when you were bullied? Whom did you seek for comfort? Your parents. Your parents were your authority figures, who guided you intellectually during these times of bullying. I remember the situation at lunch one day when Herp took a joke too far, which sent you running to the office, crying to your mom that you didn’t want to return to school. My speculation is that you felt, amid all the bullying, your parents were your only true friends, the ones who never turned their back on you and never picked on you; this grew a great trust and sense of security for them.

So, you can tell me whether or not I missed something above, but let move on to the present day, and where does psychology play a role? Well, I can tell you from all my classes in psychology, human action, talking with a psychologist regularly, having multiple friends going into the field, using pure logic, and even watching educational shows and reading/hearing stories about the subject, that not always but a trend one can see amongst those who were bullied at a young age, end up being the bullies when they are older. Now, am I calling you a bully, in the social connotation of the word? No. Do I think that you go around, shoving people into lockers, taking their lunch money? No. But what have I, personally, observed over the years? And I am not just referring to today with your current political beliefs, I am referring to many different scenarios when I say that I have observed the same deep rooted belief in your outlook on life that would be found in a bully: control. I shall explain in a minute, but I have also observed that strong tie between you and authority that closely resembles that tie you had with your parents while being bullied.

First for control. This one can best be explained through the example of political beliefs, so I shall briefly touch upon that. We have our political difference, but lets be blunt here when talking about the specific difference: I believe in letting people live their lives how they wish, so long as they allow others to do the same. You, on the other hand, believe that whatever you have conjured up as being “correct,” you wish to see those beliefs be enforced through the coercion of the state. Again, lets be honest here, for a world to resemble your political beliefs, of necessity, you would have to force people to comply to your standards, no questions asked. You don’t want to pay taxes? Too bad. You wish to discriminate in your, privately owned protected by property rights, business? Too bad, I don’t agree so you’re not allowed. Oh, you don’t want to pay for government health care? Too bad, Obamacare here we come. And what happens if I don’t comply? I can probably expect to see armed federal agents pounding down my door to take me away to jail. And for what? Because I didn’t comply with your, let me emphasize YOUR, beliefs. Etc etc etc… You are for high regulation. Despite the fact, and you can fact check me on this, that the government has been dishing out 80,000 new pages of regulations over our lives, annually, on average, you wish that number to be higher. And, not surprisingly, a synonym for control (to get back to the bullying subject), is regulate.

When I ask you for your objective, provable justifications for your beliefs, you answer with “it just feels right to me.” When I say, “doesn’t it bother you that you have very little to no experience in the fields of study necessary to properly understand politics (i.e. business, finance, economics)?” You say no, and don’t show any indication of challenging not only the status quo in Washington, but the status quo in your mind. I am going to be blunt here again, but I don’t care how good your subjective justification is. I don’t care how warm and tingly you feel about your beliefs. Relatively, let me emphasize relatively, speaking I know for a fact I have more reason to be confident in my beliefs over you and your beliefs. If you don’t agree on this point, it would be like saying, Shithead should be more confident than the MD at Huron Valley Hospital about how to perform an operation on someone… This doesn’t make sense. I emphasized relatively because I am, by no means, a phd or a decades of experience backed economist. However, compared to you, I know I understand the field better than you. Again, this doesn’t mean I am right on everything, but in terms of being able to walk away and say, “hey, that person is experienced in what they’re talking about,” I surely have more experience than you in the supporting fields (economics, business, finance, etc).

So, why did I rant about all of that? This leads to my next point. Despite the clear disparity between our experience levels, you insist your beliefs are sound. To step aside from economics and politics for a second, I point to another scenario that occurred just before I was banned from your house years ago. We were down in your basement and talking about your fitness goals. To make a long story short, you told me your goals (gain muscle, burn fat) and I was like, “Great! Good for you.” Then I asked, “Hey! What’s your nutrition look like? You have got to be eating a lot of protein to be building up those muscles.” You replied, “Well, I have 4 meals over the course of a 16 hour day. I have a bowl of cereal in the morning, nothing big, and some apple juice. Then I have a salad for lunch. Then I work out, then a couple of hours later, I have a chicken breast and some rice for dinner, and then an hour before bed I have some healthy yogurt.” Now, I may have got some of the specific meals wrong, but the point is that you had 4 small ass meals, with only one meal really delivering any amount of protein in your day. I said, “Super Dude! You have got to eat way more than that, not nearly as much as I eat, but you got to eat more than that! Especially on the protein, you are getting like nothing…” Your response? “Well, my dad scheduled it for me and, well, you see my dad, he’s strong. So I know this will work.” Then we bickered for a bit, with it ending off in me going… “Ooook SD, we’ll see how far that gets you.” Hitherto, this was coming from a guy who was packing on muscle weekly, and although I wasn’t doing cardio to burn any fat, I think I kind of knew what I was talking about. But that’s fine, you have the right to do what you want. My point on this one is that I have noticed, and not just from this situation alone, that if your parents said anything about anything, not only did you follow it to a tee but also you immediately believed it. In terms of your outlook on life, I see this connection with our national authority, the federal government. It seems as if, despite factual opposition to things, you will take what the administration says, and you will take it to the grave, that is of course so long as it is from a liberal leader.

 

Now, I am going to wrap this up because its already horridly long, but I just thought I would share with you these thoughts. After pondering about your past, I realized the connection. And this runs true for anyone, your past plays a big role in your how you develop into the future. My parents told me at age 12, “If you want anything of importance to a teenager, i.e. a CAR, when you turn 16, you might want to start working now, because we sure as hell are not getting one for you.” Thus, I became independent at the age of 12 and started working at a bowling alley, below minimum wage, under the table pay, every weekend, sometimes pushing 25 hours. But the reason I became independent was because those incentives were put in place. I then pursued my self interest (I want a car when I turn 16) and bit the bullet to start working at age 12, something no one else was doing at that age. Today, I always have money on hand, a paid for car, I buy everything I need, I started my own business, and I am an independent, productive individual in society.

 

So, again, you can take this and ponder it yourself. You can say, wow Shithead nice story, and delete it, it doesn’t matter. But I know the matter of bullying in the past poses big issues for you, so I thought I would share my psychological take on it because I see a correlation, and maybe you will too.

 

Talk to you soon.


               
               
Thanks,

Shithead

I would just like to point out from the get-go that the political ideas he accuses me of having are completely mischaracterized.  I never said someone should be forced at gunpoint to prescribe to government programs.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: 73109 on August 07, 2011, 03:42:46 PM
Question...

Does it matter?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on August 07, 2011, 03:44:32 PM
No, but it's incredibly hurtful.  And this was all from a guy who claimed to have realized he was abrasive and hurtful in his discourse and was trying to tone it down.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: 73109 on August 07, 2011, 03:49:01 PM
If the dudes a cock, there's no reason to be upset. He's accusing you of being a bully because you were bullied. If this isn't the case, fuck em.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on August 07, 2011, 04:04:13 PM
Thanks, now excuse me while I make a personal recommendation for you at Kennedy Law. :p
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: 73109 on August 07, 2011, 04:06:17 PM
I will be 100% honest.

That went way over my head.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on August 07, 2011, 04:10:42 PM
Meaning you scratch my back, I scratch yours. :P

Or if that's not what got you, Harvard's law school.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: 73109 on August 07, 2011, 04:12:11 PM
There you go! Granted, I'd probably rather go to NYU law. Much more applied. Harvard is for dudes that want to get into business law doing boring mergers for billions of dollars.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: robwebster on August 07, 2011, 04:18:59 PM
From a "friend" of mine who was determined at the beginning of this summer to patch things up between us.  We've been engaged in a number of political debates since then.  Names have been replaced for anonymity.

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Hey SD,

I live in a universe where prefixing a massive essay with "I'm not being rude" means you're magically absolved of any rudeness.

Thanks,

Shithead

I would just like to point out from the get-go that the political ideas he accuses me of having are completely mischaracterized.  I never said someone should be forced at gunpoint to prescribe to government programs.
I think the flaw in Shithead's argument is that he's trying to tell you you're a bully by means of a thirteen-paragraph essay listing the precise reasons that you suck.

Sounds like you're just as confident in your beliefs as one another. The essay's not quite "why you should listen to me in all things," but he's never stepped back to consider the idea that maybe he's in a bit of a glass house with the humility thing. That's pretty telling.

Note, also, that you never asked his opinion - and yet for some reason he presumes he's got your full attention, and that you should regard his words with even a lick of value. It's tarted up a little with clever psychobabble, but it doesn't add much other than superiority. And it reeks of busy-bodying. If he's not invited into your life, he'll force himself into your life.

My guess? It's been a very long time since anyone's told that guy that he's wrong. Although, then again, I don't have a friend who's a psychologist. Call it a hunch.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on August 07, 2011, 04:32:12 PM
Can't say I don't like that analysis Rob, thanks. It just makes my day that you were able to use Shithead so matter-of-factly to respond. :lol

And I do tell him all the time he's wrong (granted, it's not like I go seeking an argument or that I never consider his opinions, but sometimes it's hard to considering the absurd hypotheses he conjures), or try gently to turn him on a more correct trajectory. Well, lesson learned.

Also, in case anyone was wondering, as the email suggests we have been "friends" for a long time (in fact we've been friends with quotes for the better part of a decade).  His behavior has irked me for years and years, and I suppose he's not wrong in saying it has had its own psychological effect on me, along with other things in those younger days.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Aramatheis on August 07, 2011, 06:08:02 PM
wow.
When I started reading your post, I was like, "I don't like this Shithead, at all."

Then I continued, and it almost seemed like he was being less of an ass, and I thought, "Well, maybe he isn't after all."

after having read the entire post, my position is clear; that guy is a fucking asshat. he's easily one of the smarmiest douchebags I've seen (well, read about) in a long time.


now if it seems to you like you no longer value his "friendship" and you decided, for whatever reason (i.e. he's a huge prick, he keeps sending similar emails to that above) to go your own ways, please tell that guy that he's a shithead (for me).
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on August 07, 2011, 06:59:12 PM
 :lol

I mean you don't have to be a yes man for my sake, but I have to be honest, I feel the same. :P
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Aramatheis on August 07, 2011, 07:15:33 PM
you don't have to be a yes man for my sake
trust me, I'm not.
I just don't like dickheads.


I have to be honest, I feel the same. :P

you should reply with a troll email, that only contains this


(https://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_la283cGSs71qbm9t6.jpg)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on August 07, 2011, 07:16:15 PM
you don't have to be a yes man for my sake
trust me, I'm not.
I just don't like dickheads.


I have to be honest, I feel the same. :P

you should reply with a troll email, that only contains this


(https://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_la283cGSs71qbm9t6.jpg)

I'm considering it. :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on August 07, 2011, 07:26:33 PM
When I get p*ssed off . I go play my drums

:)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on August 07, 2011, 07:27:22 PM
When I get p*ssed off . I go play my drums

:)


Oh my god that helps so much.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on August 07, 2011, 07:39:55 PM
My mom took apart my drum set AND LOST A PART. >:(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Sigz on August 07, 2011, 07:40:23 PM
Kill her.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Aramatheis on August 07, 2011, 09:28:11 PM
I don't have a drum kit..  :sadpanda:


It's one of my life goals to get one, and eventually learn to play A Change of Seasons on drums. :metal
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: xShammas on August 07, 2011, 09:30:18 PM
I've been struggling lately. My mom lost her job about a month ago, so I've been working 45+ hours a week at my shitty job and spending the money I have saved for school to pay our bills.
And I'm still lonely.
 :sadpanda:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ħ on August 07, 2011, 09:38:19 PM
I've missed my Zoloft for a couple days.  Feeling positively terrible.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on August 08, 2011, 12:00:29 AM
I've missed my Zoloft for a couple days.  Feeling positively terrible.

Do you see a therapist?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ħ on August 08, 2011, 12:19:50 AM
I've missed my Zoloft for a couple days.  Feeling positively terrible.

Do you see a therapist?
Used to, but I missed an appointment and am kinda scared to call.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on August 08, 2011, 12:54:55 AM
I don't get it. I have so much self confidence.... more than I had in the last year of my relationship... I am still losing weight... A job pretty much fell into my lap... I am getting out and am being around people... I have reconnected with old friends... yet I can still be fucking kicked in the nuts with wave of depression so bad I wish i could just die. I dont get it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on August 08, 2011, 12:58:05 AM
I've been struggling lately. My mom lost her job about a month ago, so I've been working 45+ hours a week at my shitty job and spending the money I have saved for school to pay our bills.
And I'm still lonely.
 :sadpanda:

I'm really sorry to hear that dude.  Well I'm sure it'll turn around soon, everyone here is pulling for you.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MasterShakezula on August 08, 2011, 01:00:07 AM
Jay: Perhaps it's anxiety, due to your life changing so much in such a short amount of time.  That and it takes a while fir your mind to recoup from a negative period in life.

Back in April, drumline season ended after like 7 months.  I hate my drumline experience and was extremely glad for it to be all over. The week after I got home from finals, I was mega-depressed/lethargic.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on August 08, 2011, 01:48:29 AM
Plus I just found out my best friend is in the hospital. :sadpenguin:
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Post by: MasterShakezula on August 08, 2011, 01:51:26 AM
What is his health issue that put him there?   :sad:

Regardless of what's got him down, I wish him a successful overcommance.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on August 08, 2011, 02:06:56 AM
Migraines...  idk nothing too major... just had me in an anxiety attack for a few hours
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Post by: MasterShakezula on August 08, 2011, 02:08:52 AM
Good that it was nothing too bad.

Let's just hope that that's the last negative and stressful thing to be happening to you for a long while.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: chknptpie on August 08, 2011, 07:18:45 AM
I've missed my Zoloft for a couple days.  Feeling positively terrible.

Do you see a therapist?
Used to, but I missed an appointment and am kinda scared to call.

What is there to be scared about?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ħ on August 08, 2011, 08:19:04 AM
So basically last night I slept zero hours and have a full day of class ahead of me and before that I slept 14 hours til 3pm for no good reason and ate a truckload of junkfood and broke out a lot and I forgot to take my depression medication so I feel absolutely terrible...basically I haven't felt this way for about six months, back when I failed all my classes due to this. :(
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Post by: xShammas on August 08, 2011, 10:20:14 PM
My phone broke and I have to pay our rent again next month, but at least I get food stamps now!!!  :metal
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: Shadow2222 on August 23, 2011, 02:04:33 PM
I'm not super depressed like I was a few weeks ago, but man do I feel lonely. It is so hard to find a gay guy in this school. I know its my senior year and I can wait, but I dunno... I just feel REALLY lonely.

I know it may not help much, but I echo what lonestar and reaperkk said. Dude, life after high school is way better. Of course, there will be some growing pains there as well, but the good outweighs the bad by far.

Wow, I just randomly happened upon this post earlier. I know I'm not super well known here, but I wanted to say thanks to anyone that had commented upon this and my other thread.

Here I am all of this time later 6 months into a relationship with the man of my dreams. I am so in love with him, and have never felt so good before  :D
Title: Re: The Depressed Thread.
Post by: ACID_FOX on August 24, 2011, 12:44:15 AM
I'm not super depressed like I was a few weeks ago, but man do I feel lonely. It is so hard to find a gay guy in this school. I know its my senior year and I can wait, but I dunno... I just feel REALLY lonely.

I know it may not help much, but I echo what lonestar and reaperkk said. Dude, life after high school is way better. Of course, there will be some growing pains there as well, but the good outweighs the bad by far.

Wow, I just randomly happened upon this post earlier. I know I'm not super well known here, but I wanted to say thanks to anyone that had commented upon this and my other thread.

Here I am all of this time later 6 months into a relationship with the man of my dreams. I am so in love with him, and have never felt so good before  :D

Good for you man!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on August 24, 2011, 01:24:50 AM
*sigh*

You tell it how it is, Mr. Murray. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_dBRtaPliM)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: 73109 on August 24, 2011, 11:36:42 AM
Not depressed, but fucking pissed.

The class I was most looking forward to next year has now turned into a "work-at-your-own-pace" virtual class on a computer. I no longer have a teacher, and I'll be having a fucking bot teaching me one of the hardest things you can learn at the high school level just because our fuckhead of a governor decided to cut 10 million bucks to the school district. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK.

I needed that.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on August 24, 2011, 12:49:03 PM
That sucks  :-\ what class was it?
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Post by: robwebster on August 24, 2011, 12:50:03 PM
That sucks  :-\ what class was it?
Soothing the Beast Within 101.
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Post by: ReaperKK on August 24, 2011, 05:45:55 PM
That sucks  :-\ what class was it?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: 73109 on August 24, 2011, 08:42:23 PM
AP Calculus BC
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on August 25, 2011, 03:59:43 AM
thats complete bullshit
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on August 25, 2011, 04:05:54 AM
AP Calculus BC

Don't know what all the AP and BC means, but how the hell can a school cut their budget for teachers for maths?!? That's ridiculous. (unless it's just some really obscure course you're doing, but still...)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on August 25, 2011, 04:32:53 AM
alrighto another rant by J8VRM...



all this shit thats been going on with me for the past 5 6 7 month i dont even remember now... I thought that by now I would be out of it. But no. It looks like its still gonna be a while before i fucking move out. So I have to deal with my ex every day. No way around it. it would be fine if it werent for the fact that seeing her makes me want to embrace her, then punch a fucking wall. she makes me so angry that I want to fucking bash my head in yet she is still the only person that can make me feel like I am not a piece of fucking shit. all this shit is going to lead to the end of me. not suicide. just... mental breakdown? idk. I cant take it. Like trying to just live my life... started working... which is a huge accomplishment for me... im trying to stay busy... yet i have her and what we had haunting me.  All I ask for in life now is a little companionship. Yes I am working (and I am planning to pull a second job once I get settled with this security thing)... I can get an apartment. independence. But freedom to do what? work all day and then come home and sit alone because the only few people who actually get me... who I can actually be around without having a fucking anxiety attack (social anxieties suck ass and balls) are always busy with their girlfriend type folk.....

Idk the last week or so have just been really depressing. I foresee a lonely existence for me. and the one thing on earth that scares me the most is being alone. isolated. forgotten. Fuck this rant is over now.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on August 25, 2011, 06:11:04 AM
I've had the feeling of being alone, especially when I moved after college newly single and not really knowing anybody.

It gets better, you just have to focus on getting yourself out of that house, if you think about all the things that you want changed it'll be overwhelming, so you have to focus on one. I couldn't imagine living in a house with my ex.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ravenheart on August 25, 2011, 02:57:34 PM
I have no one to talk to at this Goddamn university. I wake up, hit the gym, eat breakfast alone, go to class, then go right back to my dorm. I don't wanna go through 4 years of this bullshit with no one at all to talk to. I'll lose my mind, well, whatever is left of it at least.

This is what I feared was gonna happen, and whaddya know, it's happening.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MasterShakezula on August 25, 2011, 02:58:36 PM
Did you miss orientation week?

I've heard college people in the thread made to educate me say that many friends are made during that week. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on August 25, 2011, 03:00:48 PM
I have no one to talk to at this Goddamn university. I wake up, hit the gym, eat breakfast alone, go to class, then go right back to my dorm. I don't wanna go through 4 years of this bullshit with no one at all to talk to. I'll lose my mind, well, whatever is left of it at least.

This is what I feared was gonna happen, and whaddya know, it's happening.
Talk to people in classes or miscellaneous people in your dorm. You never know, it could work.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on August 25, 2011, 03:13:25 PM
There's always opportunities to make friends, maybe you'll have to put in a bit of effort at first but it'll be worth it  :) If randomly going up and talking to people isn't your thing (I know that's not for everyone) then maybe join some clubs where you can meet people with similar interests so you'll have a common ground, and you can also get to know your class mates. It's not nice being alone and having no one to talk to, so don't let it happen. I may not know you in real life but you seem like a really cool guy and I'm sure other people will see that. And if they don't, just seduce them with the hair!  :laugh:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: dethklok09 on August 25, 2011, 03:18:45 PM
Just be cool, talk to people about stuff, maybe ask for help on certain shit that you're working on, I dunno. As silver tears said, try joining clubs or something.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ravenheart on August 25, 2011, 03:22:39 PM
I have no one to talk to at this Goddamn university. I wake up, hit the gym, eat breakfast alone, go to class, then go right back to my dorm. I don't wanna go through 4 years of this bullshit with no one at all to talk to. I'll lose my mind, well, whatever is left of it at least.

This is what I feared was gonna happen, and whaddya know, it's happening.
Talk to people in classes or miscellaneous people in your dorm. You never know, it could work.

I've chatted a little with some people in class, but probably not enough to solidify a friendship.. I'll keep trying.

There's always opportunities to make friends, maybe you'll have to put in a bit of effort at first but it'll be worth it  :) If randomly going up and talking to people isn't your thing (I know that's not for everyone) then maybe join some clubs where you can meet people with similar interests so you'll have a common ground, and you can also get to know your class mates. It's not nice being alone and having no one to talk to, so don't let it happen. I may not know you in real life but you seem like a really cool guy and I'm sure other people will see that. And if they don't, just seduce them with the hair!  :laugh:

Thanks... I actually am going to this meeting tonight for a club involving a radio station, and I'm hoping that might be my ticket outta my dorm aside from classes and food. Then I could breathe a sigh of relief, and not even have to seduce them with it. The hair I mean.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on August 25, 2011, 03:24:19 PM
Awesome, hope you meet some friend-worthy people!  :)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: BanksD on August 28, 2011, 08:03:24 PM
So, this girl I really REALLY liked turned out to like another guy


at first I was really pissed about it but then i got over it



but that shit really sucks in the short term
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Aramatheis on August 28, 2011, 08:05:44 PM
So, this girl I really REALLY liked turned out to like another guy


at first I was really pissed about it but then i got over it



but that shit really sucks in the short term

It does indeed.

also, I like how you phrased that
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on August 28, 2011, 11:54:56 PM
Thanks... I actually am going to this meeting tonight for a club involving a radio station, and I'm hoping that might be my ticket outta my dorm aside from classes and food. Then I could breathe a sigh of relief, and not even have to seduce them with it. The hair I mean.

Yes, clubs are good. Very good. As for people in classes, just keep talking to them, ask them to go have lunch, whatever. That's how I made most of my friends in college.


In other news, I feel ya Jay, because I am on the verge of a breakdown myself. I have gone insane.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wammabe on August 29, 2011, 12:09:49 AM
I have no one to talk to at this Goddamn university. I wake up, hit the gym, eat breakfast alone, go to class, then go right back to my dorm. I don't wanna go through 4 years of this bullshit with no one at all to talk to. I'll lose my mind, well, whatever is left of it at least.

This is what I feared was gonna happen, and whaddya know, it's happening.

Most of the friends I've made have pretty much come to me. I was recently the only new kid in school and that pretty much made everyone approach me. Previously though, all the friend's I've ever made have been on things like clubs. My best friends and I met because we were on the same team on a robotics competition. I never really approached anyone, in fact, I think I'm completely incapable of approaching people and randomly making friends, which is why clubs and groups are so useful.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on August 29, 2011, 01:49:37 PM
WHY THE FUCK CAN'T ANYTHING BE EASY
a hobbit's tale by bilbo baggins

alright so i am in a situation right now.


back at the beginning of summer i tried to see what i could do to apply to a particular university. they didn't contact me until it was waaaaaay too late, and they told me they needed my degree transcript which i wouldn't be able to get for a while. so i decided to maybe take a semester off and think about what i want to goddamn major in and get a job or something and everything would be okay.

THE PROBLEM

while all this bullshit was going on, i had applied for student housing. you know, trying to be responsible and get stuff done. well i don't have the money to pay for housing or fees or anything like that, but when i'm enrolled, as i had planned to be, i get some financial aid and student loans which could help me while i have a job there to start saving to pay it back.

in the rush of everything, i went ahead and signed a lease so that i would not be homeless. the MINUTE i learned that i wouldn't be able to attend the fall term, i contacted them telling them i wouldn't be able to take up the lease and they should give it to someone else. now, that housing development is pretty popular and always in high demand, they could fill that place in a SECOND if they so chose.

the response i get is from a company lawyer threatening to SUE ME FOR THE RENT if i did not take any action.


fuck.

so i got some attorneys to look into it and talk with them and explain the situation. the housing place would not fucking budge. they had a solid case too, i had signed a legal document. fuck me for trying to get shit done with my shit life.


so now i am moving there this weekend, having to somehow find $1400 to pay RIGHT THEN so i can GET MY FUCKING KEY and move into my GODDAMN apartment and apply for fucking COMMUNITY COLLEGE so i can take some FULL-TIME BULLSHIT CLASSES I DON'T NEED just so i can get STUDENT LOAN MONEY to pay my FUCKING RENT while i find a FUCKING JOB to work SOLELY for raising MONEY to pay back all the FUCKING GODDAMN MONEY i am borrowing


jesus christ was a FUCKING SODOMITE hitler was THE FUCKING MAN every american who has ever died in a war was a FUCKING COWARD the queen is a FUCKING CUNT lawyers live off of MISERY and DISADVANTAGE


long life, state your case
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on August 30, 2011, 01:07:34 AM
Jesus that is hard gay. My friends have been having a hard time with the same shit, so I kind of know what that's like.



In other news I feel like throwing myself in front of a bus kinda sorta.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on August 30, 2011, 01:41:39 AM
Sonata... That is so much fucking bullshit! What the fuck is this world coming to? No one can fucking better themselves because of all this bullshit the government and companies and shit put people through
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: nikatapi on August 30, 2011, 04:13:23 AM
That sucks. I'm sure you'll find a way out of this bullshit.
I swear that every shitty thing that happens on this planet is because of money. What the fuck is wrong with people these days?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on August 30, 2011, 09:03:41 AM
 :-\
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: chknptpie on August 30, 2011, 09:18:43 AM
:( way sucks. Is there no way to rent out your apartment on your own? Find roommates?
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Post by: Ravenheart on August 30, 2011, 10:20:06 AM
Chris....  :-\



*Hugs*
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Post by: Gorille85 on September 08, 2011, 09:45:37 PM
bleh
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ZBomber on September 08, 2011, 09:47:41 PM
bleh

bleh as well. :( feeling more horrible than i can remember feeling before. i really can't deal with school right now on top of everything else

SFADFGDAGDAGDAGADGFDAFDFDSGSFGHDF
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on September 09, 2011, 12:18:59 AM
I hear that... although thankfully I am done with school forever. But my job is disappearing and everything is a mess, so fuck.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ravenheart on September 09, 2011, 12:27:27 AM
I have been miserable for the past 3 weeks straight and have been thinking about suicide regularly.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on September 09, 2011, 12:37:55 AM
 :-[

When you say "thinking," how seriously?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ravenheart on September 09, 2011, 12:41:37 AM
I'm not sure. I mean... I'm generally an unhappy person, so it's always a passing thought every day, but now it lingers. They just stay, and I just keep playing scenarios over and over in my head on how I could carry through with it and how much better everything would be afterwards.

I'm not sure if that answers your question, but I'm not sure how else to word.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on September 09, 2011, 12:58:52 AM
I'm not sure. I mean... I'm generally an unhappy person, so it's always a passing thought every day, but now it lingers. They just stay, and I just keep playing scenarios over and over in my head on how I could carry through with it and how much better everything would be afterwards.

I'm not sure if that answers your question, but I'm not sure how else to word.
Wrong. WRONG. WRONG. WRONG.

*breathes*

Okay, I'm sorry to be so blunt, but never think to yourself ever that suicide would make anything better. First off, it would be the death of a human being. A living, breathing creature capable of intelligent thought and control of animalistic instincts. And you are alive. And the loss of a human being is almost always sad. Even more so when that human being is someone who exceeds in being above the average societal stereotypes, can think for him or herself and has a good god damn head on his or her shoulders. That's just another sad loss for an already dying breed. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXRjmyJFzrU) And more importantly, when one commits suicide, it just simply reinforces to the rest of the world that this option, this way out, still exists for anyone willing to just give up half way through their life. And that's what it is, a life. Something you only get a single shot at (that is unless reincarnation or any other form of rebirth is straight fact). And besides, my belief in a figurative afterlife is in any way, shape or form true, than suicide during such a depressive state would only make what's in store for you a figurative hell.

Now I don't mean to lecture you, but I hate hearing people talk about or consider suicide, it's a touchy subject for me. And I hate it especially when that person is one of the coolest darn human beings he's met (online or off). Now go play outside and be happy or you are grounded mister.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on September 09, 2011, 02:40:43 AM
I'm not sure. I mean... I'm generally an unhappy person, so it's always a passing thought every day, but now it lingers. They just stay, and I just keep playing scenarios over and over in my head on how I could carry through with it and how much better everything would be afterwards.

I'm not sure if that answers your question, but I'm not sure how else to word.

Yeah, it does... so another question is can you give me concrete examples of how everything would be better?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on September 09, 2011, 05:43:52 AM
Not really depressing or anger-inducing, but I have one week to get an internship for college credit before I have to drop the class by default and so far I have been rejected by one group, seven of the groups I was going to apply to aren't offering anything this fall, and one I did apply to still isn't answering a week later.  FFFFFFUUUUUUUU-
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on September 11, 2011, 09:39:55 PM
I have no idea what to do with myself. If I'm not constantly busy I'm thinking too much and that is NOT good.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on September 11, 2011, 09:41:11 PM
I have no idea what to do with myself. If I'm not constantly busy I'm thinking too much and that is NOT good.

Thinking is usually good, however the thought has to have a destination and can't be circular. And while distraction is helpful at times, it's not a great end result.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ZBomber on September 11, 2011, 09:42:30 PM
I have no idea what to do with myself. If I'm not constantly busy I'm thinking too much and that is NOT good.

I know that feeling, Jackie. And as it usually turns out, I am NOT busy, so I can relate to hating the excessive thinking.  :P

Stick in there though. You're an awesome person, and you'll pull through. *hugs*
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: LCArenas on September 11, 2011, 09:52:26 PM
I can't stop despising myself. I really want to, but every time I feel I'm starting to get out of the depression I fuck up something or make a terrible mistake and go back to circle the drain.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on September 11, 2011, 10:00:50 PM
I can't stop despising myself. I really want to, but every time I feel I'm starting to get out of the depression I fuck up something or make a terrible mistake and go back to circle the drain.

Even though I'm not fond of it, I'd recommend finding a therapist who specializes in Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, which is most of them.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on September 11, 2011, 10:30:34 PM
the thought has to have a destination and can't be circular

Yeah, that's the problem.

And thanks, Mike.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on September 11, 2011, 10:46:10 PM
I am  both depressed and angry at the moment, hence the reason I am in this thread again
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on September 14, 2011, 12:59:34 AM
And in just the matter of about 15 minutes, about half of my self worth feels utterly lost. Beautiful.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on September 15, 2011, 03:56:11 AM
Don't let that shit rest on other people. I've made that mistake too many times, mang.
Title: Incoming wall of text about stuff, I guess
Post by: MasterShakezula on September 17, 2011, 12:31:50 AM
There are times I just get outraged with myself!

   I promised to myself to get adequate sleep on school nights, and haven't done that more than 2 nights, this school year, and I just finished my second week of school.  I know why this happens; I come home, dick around on the computer playing video games, thinking "Yeah, I'll just stay up till 3 when I go to bed and do my work then," and I do just that.  So far, I have As in all of my classes, because I'm actually getting all my work done, as opposed to last year, or the year before, but I am depriving myself of sleep, and that's not good. 

   Another thing in which I fail myself is vitamin consumption.  I have a large supply of daily multivitamins, but I never take them, out of neglect.  I should take them, if I am to be taking in all necessary nutrients I need on a daily basis, but I don't.  I want to, but I forget, because I'm negligent, and man do I feel badly about that. 

Also, fucking communication is a bitch.  I cannot effectively communicate with people like a normal person and it pisses me off to no end.  School doesn't help, because I don't communicate with most people there.  I talk with a couple other guys, mainly ranting about stupid people I overhear in class, or the bronies, or something like that.  Always ranting.  I communicate very well and feel quite comfortable interacting with other musicians at the community college, but that's once a week, unfortunately.  I definitely will take more classes there second semester, some months away, so consolation there, at any rate. 

So, yeah, I'm pretty frustrated with myself.  Just had to let that steam out.  The solutions to the first two are so simple, yet I still struggle with solving them. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: darkshade on September 17, 2011, 12:45:46 AM
Ironically I come to this thread after having a few drinks. All I can say is that I get real mad almost every day because of my current life situation; but you just have to remember that someone somewhere probably has it worse than you. Just think about Africa.

I'll come by here again when I'm sober and maybe contribute more seriously
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MasterShakezula on September 17, 2011, 12:51:32 AM
I'm not mad about the problems, I mean, I don't enjoy them, but I could be a lot worse off.  Hell, my mother's entire half of my family is pretty much worse off than I.  They be mainly labour-class drunks in rural Massachusetts. 

It's mainly frustration with myself that I am failing to deal with such simple tasks as going to bed on time and taking vitamins.  I know I should be better than that. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Sintheros on October 10, 2011, 12:07:22 AM
Why am I such a pathetic sack of crap with no talent and no motivation?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MasterShakezula on October 10, 2011, 12:18:10 AM
If you feel that way about yourself, it's no wonder things aren't going the way you want them to.

I recommend you work on developing a more positive view of yourself.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Sintheros on October 10, 2011, 12:27:36 AM
I harbor secret envy and hatred towards my only friends for being better than me at things I've done for ten times as long.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dark Castle on October 10, 2011, 12:29:55 AM
I harbor secret envy and hatred towards my only friends for being better than me at things I've done for ten times as long.
You know, I did that once, and it's not worth it. I'd kill to be able to play drums like a friend can,  I played solid for 3 years, took a break and have tentatively stepped back in, where as he played rockband, got on a real drumset and could easily play for a pop/rock band as he's just a natural at learning.  It doesn't stop me from giving my best and having fun.   Don't sweat the small stuff like that in life.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Sintheros on October 10, 2011, 12:32:48 AM
I harbor secret envy and hatred towards my only friends for being better than me at things I've done for ten times as long.
You know, I did that once, and it's not worth it.

That doesn't make it any easier to brush off.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: chknptpie on October 28, 2011, 07:33:30 AM
Seriously worst week in a long time. Someone damaged my car this Wednesday in my work parking lot. Last night my sisters sweet cat died.

:( I haven't slept very well for a few days, that doesn't help either.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: tjanuranus on October 29, 2011, 12:11:24 AM
Seriously worst week in a long time. Someone damaged my car this Wednesday in my work parking lot. Last night my sisters sweet cat died.

:( I haven't slept very well for a few days, that doesn't help either.

sorry to hear that. People are true assholes in this world. Who would damage a car for fun?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: dethklok09 on October 30, 2011, 09:33:22 PM
This is probably just a bunch of whiny teenager emo bullshit but I really need to vent.

Basically the main point is, I have trust issues and trust literally no one. I feel I keep driving anyone who may actually like me away because of this. I can never seem to tell if anyone is actually my friend, or just talks to me because they feel sorry for me. Because of this I will almost never attempt to make any form of communication with them unless they start a conversation or something. Even then I'll still be extremely doubtful, and just try to act like I don't care (I don't wanna feel like that weird person who makes them feel uncomfortable by being too into communicating with them). Now I do have some "good" friends (basically people who I talk to regularly) but I still don't feel I can open up my true thoughts and feelings with them. I rarely ever actually speak of something that is bothering me, or say what I truly feel because of the trust issue, where I feel like i'll just drive them away if I act like who I truly am. Because of all of this bull shit I have literally no one I can open myself up to, and basically just have a few "good" friends, and a few aquaintences. I know everyone says to be yourself but I literally don't know how to, I truly feel incapable of trusting anyone. To even write this shit and post it on a damn prog forum is honestly hard for me to do.

Anyway I just needed to vent about my bull shit that none of you care about, and just further my image of looking like a teenage emo pussy faggot.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MasterShakezula on October 30, 2011, 09:42:41 PM
Woah, man, I'm kinda like that, too. 

I don't communicate with the majority of people at school, and am kind of a recluse amongst my peers.  See, my difference is I'm lucky enough not to have any real problems.  As far as I know.

Okay, this probably isn't helping, is it; I suppose, to make this of some use, dethklok, you're not alone, in terms of being a loner at school.  And, I suppose, to rectify this and it's negative effect on you, well, what I've done that's made me have no problems, is that I make a positive thing outta it.  By not interacting with too many people, or getting hung up in social events, or liking dumbass girls, I essentially have me and my time and space to myself and what I want out of life.  And, being a self-oriented person, I LOVE IT! 
 
Of course, that's just my way of viewing my life, but if any of this could apply to you, think about it, eh?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: 73109 on October 30, 2011, 09:45:21 PM
I feel both of you. I've always been considered the odd man out amongst my peers, because I'm usually just off in my own world most of the time. I look at it like Shake does. I'm a very me oriented person and I rarely ever get caught up in the usual high school bull shit, and I dig it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: dethklok09 on October 30, 2011, 09:45:52 PM
Eh I've tried it, but just the thought of never being able to really express myself and just living some bullshit existence depresses me. Then eventually I die and feel nothing and continue to feel that for all eternity.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Gorille85 on October 30, 2011, 09:46:52 PM
Later you'll find people like you. Sooner than you think. That was the case for me this year.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: 73109 on October 30, 2011, 09:47:26 PM
Eh I've tried it, but just the thought of never being able to really express myself and just living some bullshit existence depresses me. Then eventually I die and feel nothing and continue to feel that for all eternity.


Make something out of the pointlessness of life.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Paul_Sartre
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: dethklok09 on October 30, 2011, 09:50:16 PM
Even if make something of myself and I live some glorious life, or make a living doing something I love, or have a nice family it won't really mean shit. Unless I somehow change, I don't feel I'll ever really be able to open myself up, really tell people how i'm feeling. At that point I have no one to really share my life with, and I'm stuck with myself which will mean nothing to me.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MasterShakezula on October 30, 2011, 09:53:54 PM
Klok, that's some negative-vibe you've got going on.

You don't necessarily need to talk to people at school to express yourself.  That's one way, nothing more, nothing less; there are so many mediums you can use to do so, such as your music!

And BS existance?

That's BS; the only reason one's existence is BS is if that's what they make of it!

If you're thinking day-to-day that, "I'm stuck with myself and that means this shit ain't worth nothing," of course it ain't worth nothing; your life's only worth the value you place on it.  Love yourself, man; it may sound self-centered, but without self, what the hell are you?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: dethklok09 on October 30, 2011, 10:01:39 PM
Well I meant more of express myself in like verbal communication to wear people can actually tell what I'm feeling instead of guessing what that riff makes me seem to them or whatever. Anyway I mean my BS existence because that's where I feel i'm at right now, like I don't feel i'll ever really make an impact on anyone's lives. Music may be my only way of doing that in just that it has made a major impact on my life and hopefully my music will make an impact on others' lives. Another reason is no matter what people may compliment me on, I feel is just a load of shit. I just can't pull myself to trust people, and therefore deem everything I do as basically that.
Fuck it, I can't pull myself to have that positive of an outlook. I know I sound like a little bitch right now, but I just can't seem to do it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MasterShakezula on October 30, 2011, 10:16:59 PM
The other people, it seems like you're really concerned as to how they perceive you.  You're taking that power you have over yourself and letting roll into their side of the court.  Of course you're going to be upset and stretched out.

It's a pain in the ass to be concerned about what the hell people think about you!

Trust me, I know; a couple years back, I tried to hang out with popular kids, and try and woo a girl, and all that jazz.  I had practically convinced myself that I needed all that and that it was meant to be my forte.  I bust my balls over every possible detail I could interpret about the others' views of me.  And you know what?

I was never any more stressed and discontent with life as I was those couple years.  I had no power over myself.  Through being so concerned about what they expected of me and what I thought was a need for their approval, they owned me.  The ball was in their court, and man, did it suck for me. You know what eventually happened?

I ran head-first into some sense, stopped caring so damn much, ditched the normal people and my attempts to butter them up, and went back to my 3 or so real friends, and most of all, myself and my interests and pursuits.  And ever since, I've been the best I've been.

It really doesn't matter too much how they perceive you, klok.  If they hate the way you are, whatever.  If they like the way you are, cool beans.  The only person who really can set the bottom line on your value as a person and what your needs are is you, man; the buck stops there. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: dethklok09 on October 30, 2011, 10:21:38 PM
I dunno, really I don't give a shit if I'm with the cool kids, or have some smoking hot girlfriend or whatever, I just can't bring myself to trust anyone. Even if I open myself up and someone seems to accept me I'll still take it as bullshit, and that they're only doing it to be nice or whatever. Basically I just don't feel anyone will ever give a shit about how I feel, and would want to communicate with me (which in itself sounds self centered that I would want someone to).
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MasterShakezula on October 30, 2011, 10:30:52 PM
Well, that's good that you're not giving a shit about their approval.  That's one thing you don't have to worry about.

Now, the trust thing; I don't see why you're so upset about not being a trusting person.  It's alright not to trust people; hell, it's to your advantage, my friend.  I'm not saying be a paranoid son-of-a-bitch; what I do mean is: you are going to have an advantage in life by not being easily won over, because, face it, some people are lying, cheating, asses.  If you trusting any old tom, dick, and harry you see, it's a given that you'll be feeling sorry about it before you know what hit ya, once you lend it to the wrong guy.  However, if someone's got real loyalty to you, give them that trust, provided that they've proven that they deserve it.  But keep in mind, there's nothing wrong with being conservative with your trust; it's just not something that you can give out to any random person.

Of course, that's just my say on it.

As for people giving a shit; the majority of people you come across in life are not guaranteed to give a shit.  When you come across some who do, think of it as a sort of gift or something; it doesn't happen too often, and can prove very valuable. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: dethklok09 on October 30, 2011, 10:33:49 PM
Well it's that I feel I can't trust that I'm not being a hindrance on someone's life by communicating with them. I know it's bullshit when taken to that extreme but I just can't pull myself to not feel that way.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MasterShakezula on October 30, 2011, 10:36:54 PM
In what specific way would you feel your communicating with a person would prove to be hindrance? 

And/or what signs do you usually perceive as meaning that you're being a hindrance?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: dethklok09 on October 30, 2011, 10:40:50 PM
In that they could be doing something with their lives or talking with the attractive/smart/talented/interesting etc. people.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MasterShakezula on October 30, 2011, 10:45:04 PM
Well, assuming that they've made the choice to talk to you of all people, that's probably indicating right there that they want to talk to you for some sort of reason, does it not?

Also, who are you to say that the attractive/smart/interesting/talented people are better than you; why just up and declare others to be of more value than yourself?  We're all human and of equal inherent value.  Where can differ in value is what we have to offer to others, and what you can offer to the world can be of quite some value to people who are in search of it, eh?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: dethklok09 on October 30, 2011, 10:48:40 PM
well I didn't mean they fit all of those categories, I just feel that everyone else is more of them than me I guess. I mean I just don't find myself as much of any of them so I really can't get myself to believe others will. And I just assume that they talk to me because they are trying to be nice. Now there are like two people that I think actually enjoy my company, but even then I've only expressed how i truly feel maybe like a couple of times to one, and a few to the other
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MasterShakezula on October 30, 2011, 10:56:51 PM
I think the problem here is that it appears you've got a low opinion of yourself and your abilities.

I don't know you in the flesh, but you seem like a smart, and rather cool guy, and you've displayed your fair share of musical talent; you seem interesting, at least to my senses.

I can't say I'm attracted to you, but that's a matter of me being straight; I'm pretty sure if the ladies here evaluated, you'd get positive feedback, alright?

It seems to me that you've got your share of stuff going for you.  Don't sell it short, make the most of it through your actions!  If you show them, they'll see for sure what there is to be seen, and it could prove to be impressive.

Now, how bout you take a look at yourself and see just how much you can say you're worth?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: dethklok09 on October 30, 2011, 11:01:47 PM
I dunno I just really needed to vent, I'm not out for compliments or whatever. Anyway I've been trying to work on fixing these issues for a long time now. I mean I'll have times where I go in the positive direction but then eventually I just go back to where I started. anyway hopefully I can pull myself out of this, and atleast keep onto the positive direction for as long as possible. Anyway thanks bro, it does actually really mean a lot that I'm able to get this off my chest and be able to communicate with someone about it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MasterShakezula on October 30, 2011, 11:07:19 PM
Well, all I can say is that it'll take as long as it takes.  It took me my first 2 years of high school to figure out what I really wanted and needed out of life, and that's just as far as I know right now.  I hope you get to where you're looking to get, socially and emotionally, preferably sooner rather than later.

And no problem, bro; this is one of those weird-ass communities where people are absurdly close and willing to lend a helping hand; I'm glad to do so for ya.

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ħ on October 30, 2011, 11:26:26 PM
I don't know what I want to do in life...

Everyone seems to be passionate about at least something, but I really can't get interested in a whole lot.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MasterShakezula on October 30, 2011, 11:31:27 PM
I know what I want (to have a career involving the playing/writing/teaching of music).

I just hope I wouldn't be figuratively committing suicide by doing so.   :lol

As for you, Hayden, think about what all you're good at, and what all you really are passionate about.  Then think about what overlaps between the two, or what you are passionate about that you could be willing to put the work into getting good at.

There's a start, at any rate.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: dethklok09 on October 30, 2011, 11:46:46 PM
I agree with shake, I mean myself I've basically figured that I might as well enjoy what I'm doing to make a living if I only live once. I know it sounds all cheesy and over said but I mean it's basically just something I live by.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on October 31, 2011, 12:23:04 AM
I really want to crawl in a hole, develop the memory of a goldfish and flush myself of all human emotions.



I don't even care if I am being angsty, I hate things right now. All of the things.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jcmistat on October 31, 2011, 01:25:12 AM
I don't know what I want to do in life...

Everyone seems to be passionate about at least something, but I really can't get interested in a whole lot.

That's how I feel, running out of time. Dropped out of junior college after one semester. I'm 24 and got my first job a couple of weeks ago and got my first paycheck this week but I should be happier. I actually have some sort of schedule instead of wasting my days away. Although I've only worked for 3 weeks I already feel like I'm a drone. I'm not going to quit early though, I want the money. I finally took that first step to move on with my life yet it feels like I haven't progressed.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Aramatheis on November 01, 2011, 10:05:54 PM
trivial problems
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Aramatheis on November 01, 2011, 10:07:36 PM
sorry about the double post.


oh, and the fucking text wall of doom up there. none of you care about my personal life.
why the fuck am I bothering you guys with this shit..
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MasterShakezula on November 01, 2011, 10:13:53 PM
Dude, here are two things I think I could offer you:

1.  Is what you're studying (chemistry) something you truly have a passion for and something you will be able to sleep at night in the future knowing that it's what you'll be involved in for the rest of your life?

If that's the case, it sounds like you're just in a rut, or something; it it isn't something you have a passion for, anyways, then no wonder it's troubling you; when you're studying something to that extent and you have no passion for it, you're going to be rafting uphill from the start.

2.  As for your family, perhaps you need time away from your family.  Some people in life just have better chemistry with their families, and can relate more with them than others, and it sounds like you're just not on the same dot as them.  For example, I love my family, but I don't plan on sticking around with them too much when I'm in college; I just don't have that much in common with them.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: PuffyPat on November 09, 2011, 12:10:36 AM
I'm not so much depressed, but more just need to say some stuff.

When I was in high school I had a really good group of friends, and then one of them moved to Florida to go to college, and after that our group has really just grown apart. We used to have epic movie nights and go for walks in the park at 3 in the morning during the winter, and now we barely talk. And we're talking about my closest friends here. I know stuff like this was bound to happen, but I never realized it would happen so quick. Right after I started college we just stopped hanging out. I really miss just sitting around in basements, living rooms, and garages, and just talking about things. Just thinking about all the stuff we used to do just makes me feel empty inside. I mean these are the friends who pretty much kept from falling of the edge when I was really depressed in high school, and now we barely talk. I guess friends come and go, I just thought that these were gonna be my best friends for a long time. They probably will be, but right now is just a weird phase for us.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd... I'm done.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jcmistat on November 09, 2011, 01:15:28 PM
I have a core group of friends that I've known all my life. Still strong today but I know eventually we will have to move on. I don't want it to happen. Slowly losing members and seeing it fall apart sucks.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: chknptpie on November 15, 2011, 07:23:25 PM
Holy shit my sister pisses me off... and I'm now not looking forward to thanksgiving or christmas.

So a couple weeks ago we were at dinner, discussing Thanksgiving. My boyfriend and I have three to go to - His mom, His Dad, My family. So we told her, let us know when your dinner is we will work around it. She says no big deal, whenever. My family is flying in as well, so we plan on seeing them Wednesday and Friday. We said we will come over in the afternoon, they can eat without us.

Today she asks me if she should count us in for dinner since she is going shopping soon. I told her thought you were doing dinner without us? You are going to wait for us now? To which is replied with "no, the 12 other people want to eat at 2. Kind of surprised 4 family members you haven't seen in 3 years isn't a bit more of a priority to you."

WTF, at this point I'm so pissed off that I leave work early. I tell her I think that statement is rude and she brings up last year about waiting for us. I reiterate that we have 3 places to visit, they can eat without us. We have to accommodate everyone. She then explains how it's messed up that time is split 3 ways, it should be 50/50. I tell her my boyfriend has 2 families, there is no changing that. If our dad was alive it would be split 4 ways. Thats also why her house is the last stop, so we can stay there as late as everyone is up - not be forced to leave at some point. Also the reason that we are spending Wednesday and Friday with my family - because they have flown in... not to mention they are going to Vegas on Saturday, soooooo....

She says my family was placed on the backburner last year, which is total bullshit. We had a schedule and were pretty close to it. She sent mean texts about us not being there early enough last year, even though we said we would be there around 6.  We are the ones driving around to 3 different dinners, we need some leeway here. It is not okay for her to make us feel guilty about spending time with my boyfriends family.

She then states that we should host so everyone comes to us... jesus. Also says "didn't realize your family means so little to you".

I then tell her that time is actually split 50/50 this year because Adam's mom has graciously set her Thanksgiving for Sunday. To which basically shuts her up for the most part. She then brings up Christmas and how we will work on her schedule for that holiday and that next year Adam and I will host every one.

I tell her that I am not planning for holiday's over a year in advance. There is no telling whose family is coming or if we might go to visit people. She ends with "You unbudging pain in my ass! Whatever, I'm done with this conversation"


Soooooooo excited for holidays now.

tl;dr my sister is a bitch
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: dethklok09 on November 15, 2011, 08:49:41 PM
Sounds like she's fuckin' full of herself and can't seem to comprehend how much stress you guys are already going through. Jesus christ.


Anyway as for me, struggling in school, trying to keep a 2 bands going (the shit has to be held in my basement because lugging drums around isn't gonna work) while my parents have weird working/school schedules and me having no car, and eventually i'm gonna have to focus on getting a job.

I know as far as the band things it's not a necessity, but i'm really trying to get some band experience in before I get to college. I just want to have atleast a shot at maybe becoming a musician when I get older.

Other minor shit has been pissing me off too, but whatever
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Aramatheis on November 15, 2011, 09:01:26 PM
@chknptpie

I can see how frustrating that is.. my sister makes me feel like this as well, sometimes (well, most of the time).
All I can think to say to you about this would be not to take it to heart. I say this because, even though it is unfair of your sister to treat you like this (from a purely logical standpoint you've done nothing wrong), you have to keep in mind that your sister isn't as angry with you as she is upset, since she clearly values you being around for these holidays.

So do your best to make everything work out (schedule wise), and talk to your sister in person about it. Calmly explain your position/situation, and that her words upset you. Hopefully then you two can be friendly again, and maybe work something out for future holidays.

good luck
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: chknptpie on November 16, 2011, 06:45:59 AM
Aramatheis... thanks. Thats actually a pretty calming thing to read in the morning when I'm still pissed off ha. It's very hard and frustrating to stay calm when I'm being insulted. It's also very hard for my boyfriend to not go off on her, since it revolves around his family as well.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Aramatheis on November 16, 2011, 08:31:57 AM
 :smiley:

no problem
hopefully you'll all be able to get through this without any regrets/resentment
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: chknptpie on November 16, 2011, 12:37:31 PM
:smiley:

no problem
hopefully you'll all be able to get through this without any regrets/resentment

:( sadly it doesn't appear to be that way


Email string below, start at bottom..


From: Tricia
To: 'Laurinda

I really have no idea what is going on with you. Have you started new medication or something? I care enough to work with 3 families to schedule holidays. I care enough to drive all over the east valley to visit people. If you are saying that you don’t want to be involved in Christmas, then we can just drop the presents off. THAT is what I am saying.

I refuse to continue to argue about this. It has to be scheduled and compromised from ALL parties involved. Holidays are not just about you and what you are doing. You have Bryan’s family, we both have mom, Adam and I have his mom and Dad. It’s not something that one person figures out. We can talk about this when you stop making things so dramatic and stressful. You are starting to act like mom was acting about your wedding and its getting pretty frightening.


From: Laurinda
To: Tricia

If visiting is so important to you, then you plan it. So far all I’m reading is you care enough to drop presents at a doorstep.


From: Tricia
To: Laurinda

Dinner doesn’t matter to me, visiting with everyone is what matters to me. If you don’t care, we’ll just drop the presents off at your door and let you do whatever you want with them. Dinner is not important.


From: Laurinda
To: Tricia

Do whatever. You figure it out. I’m not even getting a tree. I’m sure you don’t care about a dinner cause you already have 2.


From: Tricia
To: Laurinda

Christmas can be as easy as getting together and opening presents, at my house or yours, whichever. It doesn’t have to be a big deal with a major dinner. No family will be here from out of town right? Or did I miss that memo.


From: Laurinda
To: Tricia

You might want to talk to Amy about not coming for dinner. She is upset and would rather wait till 4 if it meant you’d be there.

Mom is not coming at all now.

I am not doing Christmas. DONE.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dark Castle on November 16, 2011, 04:06:22 PM
Some assholes dumped laundry detergent all over my car, and I can't get it off  >:( :censored.  Any help?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Aramatheis on November 16, 2011, 09:14:14 PM
sadness

well all I can think of is giving your mother a call so she can hear your side of the story

maybe she'll lay down the law and set things straight with your sister :P
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: chknptpie on November 17, 2011, 06:23:01 AM
sadness

well all I can think of is giving your mother a call so she can hear your side of the story

maybe she'll lay down the law and set things straight with your sister :P

Not a problem, my mother and sister are also fighting about my sister spending $400 on food and decorations and invited more people than expected... and my sister is now asking our family that is flying in to help pay for things... WTF

My mother is no longer coming to Thanksgiving because my sister is acting so psychotic.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on November 19, 2011, 03:01:15 PM
oh, hi, deep depression
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on November 19, 2011, 05:11:35 PM
This semester was hard on me besides the actual internship. I felt like a kamikaze the entire time. It was a lot of extra work piled on to having to be teaching from 7am to 2pm and working more, all for free.

I had some financial support from my uncle but it was rare. I even had to borrow money from a friend. I have worked as much as possible. I killed myself this semester and I feel I have nothing to show for it. I have never been this broke before living on my own. I feel pathetic.

In 6 weeks I will well on my way to doing very good with finances. But right now I feel utterly alone, depressed, and wanting to say walk away and give up. How? I dunno. Drive somewhere far away, as far as I could afford (not very far).

I just want to fucking take a break from life and come back soon. Fuck everyone and everything because life is shitty and not worth a damn.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Progmetty on November 19, 2011, 05:14:11 PM
Is the diet making this whole thing worse for you?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on November 19, 2011, 05:15:47 PM
I don't think so. If anything it makes me think clearer. Which may be a bad thing in this case, but actually if I was eating bad still I'd be having much worse thoughts.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Progmetty on November 19, 2011, 05:17:36 PM
So that's good :)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on November 19, 2011, 05:18:32 PM
Relatively, yeah...
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: nightmare_cinema on November 20, 2011, 04:09:43 PM
My life is filled with fail right now...

I'm seriously skint. I was already poor enough (despite just being paid), and then yesterday I found a seven inch crack in my car windscreen. Now I have to get that repaired and pay for prescription medication, I have around -£10 to last me the next 30 days. I have no backup plan except for a credit card and I'm already paying off a large loan that I took out to clear my student overdraft and credit card a few months ago.

My career's going nowhere fast. I know what I want to do, but I can't do it yet, so I'm treading water at a job I don't particularly like and which isn't even remotely in my field of interest.

I'm in pain every day, for the past seven years. Long story, let's just say I'm seriously ill (not terminally, just as in my quality of life is shit right now), and the one treatment that could possibly help me has been rejected by the NHS because it costs too much money. So I take 100 pills a week just to try and cope, take prescription Ketamine and Morphine and try carry on, get disciplinary action at work because of all the time I've had off sick. It makes me SO drowsy I've been nearly falling asleep driving to work in the mornings, on the days I can actually go.

My mum's still dead, it's approaching the one year anniversary and no matter how bad I feel about it and how much I want her back, she's gonna stay dead. I lost her to alcoholism and I wouldn't wish what she went through on my worst enemies.

I hate myself right now, I put on around a stone this past year over medication and I want to be skinny again SO much I actually feel sick when I see myself. I feel like I have an eating disorder yet I can't stop eating, and I can't make myself sick.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on November 21, 2011, 12:03:56 PM
You need a hug. A large, gigantic, furry bear hug.




*provides*
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: nightmare_cinema on November 24, 2011, 12:31:49 PM
*accepts* thank you :) luckily I have the most incredible friends and a tiny but amazing family but I'm still a bit sick of my current situation.

Went to this Christmas turning on of lights thing in my city tonight with my nephew and brother and boyfriend and it was near the place my mum worked, I could have cried right there in the middle of a few thousand people celebrating because she should have been there with us, watching my nephew grow up and experiencing life, but instead she died due to an awful illness which ruined her life and feels like it almost ruined ours. I'm ok but I just miss her, you know? it's nearly a year now and I wish it wasn't going so fast, it's been too long since I last got to talk to her. /splurge
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on November 24, 2011, 12:36:16 PM
*accepts* thank you :) luckily I have the most incredible friends and a tiny but amazing family but I'm still a bit sick of my current situation.

Went to this Christmas turning on of lights thing in my city tonight with my nephew and brother and boyfriend and it was near the place my mum worked, I could have cried right there in the middle of a few thousand people celebrating because she should have been there with us, watching my nephew grow up and experiencing life, but instead she died due to an awful illness which ruined her life and feels like it almost ruined ours. I'm ok but I just miss her, you know? it's nearly a year now and I wish it wasn't going so fast, it's been too long since I last got to talk to her. /splurge

I'm sorry for your loss. :( I dunno if you saw my thread, but I lost my mom 8 years ago. It's still rough sometimes, but amazing people in your life (including DTF) make it bearable and can help you rise above. Time is a healer. Love you NC
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: nightmare_cinema on November 24, 2011, 12:40:35 PM
Aww thank you, no I didn't see your thread, I've been so busy lately I've not had as much time to come on here. I feel okay like 90% of the time, even on the days when I can't get her out of my head. But then something will set me off, like our two minutes silence for fallen war heros we had a week or two ago, and I'll just feel like my heart has been torn out. And then I'll remember who she used to be before she got sick, and who I've lost and what she won't be there for in the future. And I just miss her, it's rough watching a person you love to bits go through total hell!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: XJDenton on November 24, 2011, 12:48:27 PM
Sending a giant hug your direction.

*HUGS*
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jcmistat on November 24, 2011, 05:49:32 PM
Never had a good relationship with my Dad and so glad I am going to a friends for Thanksgiving dinner.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: dethklok09 on December 12, 2011, 09:39:36 PM
Ever feel like nothing makes you happy, and that even if you become happy, you'll just end up being extremely depressed again anyway.

As if happiness is supposed to be some rare occurance
 
And like feeling completely shitty and without ambition is how life is supposed to be lived out.

Yup I guess I feel that way I guess

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on December 13, 2011, 02:58:09 AM
Yep, been there done that. Almost on a weekly basis. It's kind of crushing, because the second I start to feel happy my mind wanders and starts yelling at myself "Why bother being happy here have some depression instead it is more comforting anyway". It's no fun.


Though it's weird, this past week I've been really good at shrugging off those thoughts completely. Gonna try to keep it that way. Ever since I nipped one of my biggest issues in the butt last month, it's been getting easier and easier.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: dethklok09 on December 13, 2011, 06:48:27 PM
the last 3 - 6 months i've just been like this almost entirely, and lately i've been worse than I have ever been in my life.

I dunno, maybe i'm just turning into some whiny self-defeating cry baby. I just really can't look at anything about myself or where i'm going or what i'm doing positively at all.

I know depression is a term that gets thrown around alot, but if such a thing exists i'm pretty sure I'm experiencing it right now :/
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on December 13, 2011, 07:15:35 PM
uh yeah it exists, it's a medical condition

see a doctor
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: dethklok09 on December 13, 2011, 07:17:53 PM
I dunno, i've thought about it. But it's probably just gonna be looked at as some pathetic dribbling or whatever instead of a real medical condition, but whatever I guess.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: sonatafanica on December 14, 2011, 02:30:11 AM
dude i've been diagnosed with depression by a few different doctors this year and it's shitty


i've been in and out of therapy and medication and psychologists and shit and i absolutely hate everything that comes with it and i quit going to therapy after nothing worked so i am maybe not the best to give advice or anything but uh


yeah make sure with a doctor if you're actually depressed or just like

bored and disappointed


and then get ready for therapists to talk to you like you're eleven years old
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: dethklok09 on December 14, 2011, 04:25:48 PM
dude i've been diagnosed with depression by a few different doctors this year and it's shitty


i've been in and out of therapy and medication and psychologists and shit and i absolutely hate everything that comes with it and i quit going to therapy after nothing worked so i am maybe not the best to give advice or anything but uh


yeah make sure with a doctor if you're actually depressed or just like

bored and disappointed


and then get ready for therapists to talk to you like you're eleven years old
I think it goes quite a bit passed bored and disappointed. But really I only have myself to compare to so I can't really figure it out myself.

And yeah I can't wait to be treated like a little kid... :P
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MetalMike06 on December 14, 2011, 09:02:33 PM
I'm positive I "officially" have it, I mean I have all the typical symptoms, and it's been pretty continuous for almost the past year. I have very low self-esteem and am very unmotivated, but the only thing stopping me from seeing a doctor is that I really don't want to take medication. I've seen what it does to some people and I don't want to develop that kind of dependency. And I also feel like this could all just be a slump that I'll eventually come out of on my own. Guess I'll just give it some more time.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on December 15, 2011, 06:37:13 PM
Relationship problems. For her sake and mine, I'd rather not go into it. I'm just hoping we're able to stay together after this finals week.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MajorMatt on December 20, 2011, 07:04:50 PM
Really in a messy place right now, thought I was at peace but no.

I caused great upset and mental scarring to a bunch of new flat mates I thought were lifelong friends for some obscure reason. I never meant to do this and I was incredibly drunk at the time. I was forced to leave this flat, although 50% of the flat mates were willing to give me another chance and I still speak to those guys now. The rest thought I should leave for my own good. I have spoken to these since but still hold something against them. The new flatmates could not be better. These guys are lifelong friends. But still I find myself haunted by the past. Next year I have to choose friends to live with. Several of the old flat mates have expressed interest in living with me, and so have some of the new ones. Thing is I never expressed what I did to these new guys, and when I told some of my oldest friends from home, I got ridiculed or 'bantered' on occasion about it. This really hurt and is probably what causes me to recite lyrics on Fb when plastered. I think I may  at times just get shitfaced to feel 'good'.

What really got to me is tonight, when one of the guys from the old flat told me my handwritten, very emotional, apology letter was pinned to the fridge. I just had the sense of being a lesser human, and the things they probably say about me to the new guy everyday.

I am a guy who believes in positive thinking and 'Carpe Diem', Neurons 'Fire together, wire together' and 'Mind over matter'. But still I find myself in this cesspool, considering trying various drugs and a strange obsession with very depressing movies.

Think I've lost it again.

But when I'm sober I will find strength. And will probably wish this was never posted and delete it.

But they say a drunk man's ramblings are a sober mans thoughts or somink.

Matt...
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cyclopssss on December 21, 2011, 03:06:50 AM
 Hey Matt, settle down, mate.

Now I've never had to go through the whole 'dorm/roommate' situation, because I was never the 'student' type.
But just sticking an apologyletter, which obviously cost you a lot of emotional grief to the fridge seems a cold, lighthearted, and on the whole, just not a well-thoughtout thing to do by your room/housemates.  I mean, damn.

Just try to get yourself into a little more peacefull place and try to get a more level view. In the end it's YOU you have to contend/live with, no-one else.

just my 2 cents, hope things will work out for you.

Joop.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: chknptpie on December 23, 2011, 06:30:37 AM
sigh... my friends niece was found in her closet by her father. She was apparently playing the "choking game" by herself. Who does that?!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on December 23, 2011, 06:31:31 AM
Despite my recently acquired liberal use of the happy smiley buttons, I am deeply depressed. :)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Marvellous G on December 23, 2011, 11:52:36 AM
Last week was the first week of Christmas holidays for me, and basically every day/night there were events and parties with our usual group. I enjoyed these events/parties a lot more than usual, and realised why last night. I'm starting to like my best friend, who is a girl who doesn't do relationships. We're basically going out already in terms of how often/for how long we talk or meet up, and I don't really care about the physical component of going out i.e. making out or whatever (not that I'd mind :p). As sappy as it sounds, I just want the amazing friendship we have now, but with the definite knowledge that I'll see her basically every day and some of the sappier, smaller couply stuff, such as holding hands and whatever.

Still not sure if I just like her as the best friend who's a girl that I've ever had or something more, but when I was talking to my friend about it and said 'I just wanna see her again as soon as we both leave parties, every time' he thought that it was the latter. Not sure it's worth risking the best male/female friendship I've ever had/maybe ever will have for it though. Sigh.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on December 24, 2011, 11:03:59 PM
All I wanted for Christmas was to maintain a good mood and try to not let shit get to me.



And then she fucking called and called and texted and called and now I feel like horsepoo.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Sigz on December 24, 2011, 11:10:36 PM
I'm telling you dude.


Courier pidgeon deal with it.a
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on December 24, 2011, 11:14:38 PM
If I had the time, patience and money to do that I seriously would. Not even joking. I would do it.


But man, she called at the worst times, and I hung up each time (she called from two different numbers). Left a message saying she would even come up to see me by bus if she had to. Because she was kicked out apparently and needed to apologize to me at that very moment. Which is whatever to me. I don't fucking care. I don't want to deal with her. But I was on edge all fucking night waiting for her to show up (she didn't).



Fuck.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: dethklok09 on December 25, 2011, 11:02:22 PM
OH LOOK DETHKLOK09 IS BEING A FAGGOT COCKSUCKER EMO PANSY BITCH AGAIN IN THIS FUCKING THREAD

yup, so yeah whatever I guess. Anyway I've been deeply considering seeking medical attention or whatever about this.

BUT I'M FUCKING WONDERING

What exactly is the point of this bullshit? What if I literally believe I'm fucking terrible at everything and I HAVE NO GOOD QUALITIES ABOUT MYSELF WHATSOEVER (keep in mind people always try to make me happier by like saying all these compliments BUT I LITERALLY CAN'T FUCKING BELIEVE THEM)

Anyway will any medications or whatever make me not believe this anymore or something? Because I know that unless that happens, any happiness I supposedly feel i'll just constantly remind myself THAT I'M A WORTHLESS FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT ALRIGHT.

WHATEVER I GUESS, This depression or whatever hasn't made me want to do anything at all. AT ALL. I don't want to be with friends. I don't want to fucking pursue any goals in my life. I've given up on caring about school and if I ever even get a job in the real world.

HAHA I FUCKING SUCK RIGHT? I'M MAKING A FML POST BECAUSE I'M A GIANT ATTENTION WHORE PANSY. You guys might actually think i'm a likeable person or whatever MAYBE YOU DO? but whatever I guess any attempt at complimenting me won't work whatsoever

SO YEAH IF YOU ARE GOING TO COMPLIMENT ME (Whether you mean it or not) JUST REALIZE IT WON'T MATTER FOR SHIT BECAUSE I CAN'T BELIEVE IT (I literally can't)

Anyway all i'm asking is if this shit will actually work like that or whatever. OR MAYBE IT WON'T cause i might be the most pathetic person in the world and they haven't come up with a strong enough drug to deal with how much of a pathetic crybaby emo piece of shit i am.

SO YEAH since i tend to ramble, will anything make me actually believe i'm like not pathetic, like actually make me believe. Oh well probably not, i think i'll just turn to alcohol
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on December 28, 2011, 02:14:30 PM
See a therapist. Not a doctor. Not a psychologist. START with a therapist. Go from there.



In other news: How does one go about telling two of his best friends (who he loves so god damn dearly) that he is absolutely sick of seeing them be a happy couple around each other and that it makes him sad and loathe his life at it's current state? I don't want to be a complete asshole about it, but it's starting to get to me.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: AcidLameLTE on December 28, 2011, 02:20:08 PM
I had to tell a couple of friends once and I just flat out told them that was unfair on me (I spent all my time with them) and I constantly felt forgotten about. I repeated it when necessary.

This problem is starting to crop up with me again as well but it doesn't happen as frequently as it did with the other two friends. Also, the situation is quite different.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on December 28, 2011, 02:25:53 PM
The worst part is I'm not sure if I should tell them both at the same time, or one at a time. And I don't know how to start that conversation or how to not sound like a jealous dick. It's just really hard for me to feel okay with seeing two people so happy together, and then think to myself "Yeah, good for you and call me selfish and insecure, but this bothers the fuck out me seeing how I'm pretty sure I'll be alone forever".

Again, I love the two people to death, but man this is getting harder on me every time.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: AcidLameLTE on December 28, 2011, 02:34:43 PM
Just tell them both at the same time. Saves you having to dread two different conversations.

If you don't feel comfortable with it, just say.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on December 28, 2011, 02:37:10 PM
Today would have been a great day to do so. But something came up apparently. Oh well.


I'll figure it out somehow. Thanks Harry.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: dethklok09 on December 28, 2011, 05:52:54 PM
See a therapist. Not a doctor. Not a psychologist. START with a therapist. Go from there.
idk, maybe I should :/
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on January 10, 2012, 06:32:27 PM
So two nights ago I found out an old friend of mine who I used to practically treat like my sister has practically begun spiraling her life down the shitter with drugs, constant smoking and ridiculous plans involving using some guy for his cash and attempting to leave the country to "find herself". What the fuck man? I know I haven't been able to keep in good communication with her lately but seriously what the hell?



*le sigh*
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Buckethead on January 11, 2012, 01:20:59 AM
 :sad: sorry man, I hope thing turn out ok with her
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MajorMatt on January 11, 2012, 06:35:42 PM
 :-\ Hope things get better for her man.

Right, not sure where this should go but what the fuck. I kinda fell like 'spiraling my life down the shitter' as you put it, drugs would be interesting. I have often wondered about trying them, but I guess I still have a morsel of common sense in me that says STAY THE FUCK AWAY. Although I know guys who can get hold of weed/MDMA etc and am worried one night when I'm fucking hammered will do them.

I have a million and one things fucking up my life right now ive probably already bitched about in here at some point. So this is just an observation. This is very stream of thought as I type btw.

I seem to have zero energy to do anything, at all. I just don't give a fuck about anything. Really. I occasionally have really crazy moments where i spout out the strangest shit or act very funny, all of which my friends find hilarious and joke about having ADHD, tourets whatever. I don't have any of those conditions and they don't really think so either. I also feel similar when I have a few drinks, everyone else I know just passes out and sleeps after a night out, I want more, a bigger thrill an endless night. Today I forced myself to get up early(ish) -9AM to make sure I am tired tonight - NOPE still sot gonna be a minute before 5 when I sleep. 3/4 if im lucky!

/vent

Well I say /vent there is a fuckton of shit i could say about the shit hole my existence is now :)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ravenheart on January 12, 2012, 09:21:04 PM
Reality checks from my dad remind me of what a piece of shit I am.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: In The Name Of Rudess on January 13, 2012, 04:17:44 AM
:-\ Hope things get better for her man.

Right, not sure where this should go but what the fuck. I kinda fell like 'spiraling my life down the shitter' as you put it, drugs would be interesting. I have often wondered about trying them, but I guess I still have a morsel of common sense in me that says STAY THE FUCK AWAY. Although I know guys who can get hold of weed/MDMA etc and am worried one night when I'm fucking hammered will do them.

I have a million and one things fucking up my life right now ive probably already bitched about in here at some point. So this is just an observation. This is very stream of thought as I type btw.

I seem to have zero energy to do anything, at all. I just don't give a fuck about anything. Really. I occasionally have really crazy moments where i spout out the strangest shit or act very funny, all of which my friends find hilarious and joke about having ADHD, tourets whatever. I don't have any of those conditions and they don't really think so either. I also feel similar when I have a few drinks, everyone else I know just passes out and sleeps after a night out, I want more, a bigger thrill an endless night. Today I forced myself to get up early(ish) -9AM to make sure I am tired tonight - NOPE still sot gonna be a minute before 5 when I sleep. 3/4 if im lucky!

/vent

Well I say /vent there is a fuckton of shit i could say about the shit hole my existence is now :)

What you're describing here sounds a lot like bipolar disorder. It's a form of manic depression where someone alternates between being depressed and being in a state of mania. The decreased need for sleep and spouting out words sounds a lot like hypomania/mixed episode. Check it out, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_disorder#Signs_and_symptoms
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MajorMatt on January 13, 2012, 07:31:59 PM
:-\ Hope things get better for her man.

Right, not sure where this should go but what the fuck. I kinda fell like 'spiraling my life down the shitter' as you put it, drugs would be interesting. I have often wondered about trying them, but I guess I still have a morsel of common sense in me that says STAY THE FUCK AWAY. Although I know guys who can get hold of weed/MDMA etc and am worried one night when I'm fucking hammered will do them.

I have a million and one things fucking up my life right now ive probably already bitched about in here at some point. So this is just an observation. This is very stream of thought as I type btw.

I seem to have zero energy to do anything, at all. I just don't give a fuck about anything. Really. I occasionally have really crazy moments where i spout out the strangest shit or act very funny, all of which my friends find hilarious and joke about having ADHD, tourets whatever. I don't have any of those conditions and they don't really think so either. I also feel similar when I have a few drinks, everyone else I know just passes out and sleeps after a night out, I want more, a bigger thrill an endless night. Today I forced myself to get up early(ish) -9AM to make sure I am tired tonight - NOPE still sot gonna be a minute before 5 when I sleep. 3/4 if im lucky!

/vent

Well I say /vent there is a fuckton of shit i could say about the shit hole my existence is now :)

What you're describing here sounds a lot like bipolar disorder. It's a form of manic depression where someone alternates between being depressed and being in a state of mania. The decreased need for sleep and spouting out words sounds a lot like hypomania/mixed episode. Check it out, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_disorder#Signs_and_symptoms

Thanks for the reply man, I am scared shitless this is the case my Dad is bipolar and it's not pretty! Tonight a friend also suggested this :/
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Millais on January 14, 2012, 06:32:32 AM
maths exam yesterday.
past exam papers I've been getting 90% and above, generally finding it quite easy. yesterday the paper was absolutely horrific, so inconsistent with the 30-35 hours of revision I put in over christmas towards that test.

Consequently pretty annoyed. I suppose I can retake it, but that's just really annoying. >:(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: chknptpie on January 14, 2012, 09:37:43 AM
Thanks for the reply man, I am scared shitless this is the case my Dad is bipolar and it's not pretty! Tonight a friend also suggested this :/

I've had a bipolar mother my entire life. There were some really, serious rough patches... well there still are, but with medication its relatively manageable. It may seem scary, but they are still your family! They are still who you know them to be.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dark Castle on January 19, 2012, 05:58:33 PM
On my other main forum I go to, a IRL friend who also goes is bitching about the Black out and passing SOPA off as nothing, so we've all been debating it, and he felt the need to tell everyone I have porn, and that made me really uncomfortable because I had no intention of telling any of my friends there ever, and he also used my real name, when I wasn't really ready to disclose that to everyone.  It really hurts, and I feel invaded.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ħ on January 19, 2012, 07:56:43 PM
Wow that's horrible.  Being exposed like that makes everything much harder.  I'm really sorry to hear that.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dark Castle on January 19, 2012, 08:15:41 PM
Wow that's horrible.  Being exposed like that makes everything much harder.  I'm really sorry to hear that.
Thank you :), I was also glad when everyone told him to leave personal matters out of a public forum, so I feel a bit better, but still..now everyone knows  :-[
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ħ on January 19, 2012, 08:31:55 PM
I've been outed before.  Not for porn, but for other things.  It's so uncomfortable.  I mean, if it means anything, everyone's hiding something, and most people are mature enough to recognize that within themselves, so hopefully they'll still be friends to you.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: 73109 on January 19, 2012, 08:33:59 PM
Dude, you're a dude. Having porn is the norm, not the exception. I wouldn't worry.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dark Castle on January 19, 2012, 08:34:26 PM
I've been outed before.  Not for porn, but for other things.  It's so uncomfortable.  I mean, if it means anything, everyone's hiding something, and most people are mature enough to recognize that within themselves, so hopefully they'll still be friends to you.
Well I started a "Men post your bra sizes" thread for comedic humor and it seems to be going well :P
And I hope that by people telling my friend off that means they don't care about me being a tad of a pervy :B
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ħ on January 19, 2012, 08:36:48 PM
What's the forum about?  Obviously you are being open to us about it.  So I imagine there's a good reason you don't want people over there to know about it?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dark Castle on January 19, 2012, 08:40:30 PM
What's the forum about?  Obviously you are being open to us about it.  So I imagine there's a good reason you don't want people over there to know about it?
It's a pixel art forum, and there are a few members who are very, very, very easy to offend.  We had a whole shit storm over Male Gaze and Feminism back in July, so while it's a fun forum, you kind of have to be careful on certain subjects or those few members rear their heads in anger.  The reason why I can be open about it here is that everyone here is obviously much more lax and open on the subject, so I don't feel awkward about it here :P
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: 73109 on January 19, 2012, 08:41:12 PM
Dude, you're a dude. Having porn is the norm, not the exception. I wouldn't worry.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dark Castle on January 19, 2012, 08:41:49 PM
Dude, you're a dude. Having porn is the norm, not the exception. I wouldn't worry.
I know, just some people you'd rather not tell :I
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: dethklok09 on January 19, 2012, 08:45:07 PM
If they don't like you for having porn, then they're probably not worth associating with (if they're that "elitist" I guess for a lack of a better term)

Anyway whatever, I've been feeling pretty shitty lately too. Three cheers for falling behind in school, and actively being an asshole to all of your friends  ;D
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: 73109 on January 19, 2012, 08:45:34 PM
Dude, you're a dude. Having porn is the norm, not the exception. I wouldn't worry.
I know, just some people you'd rather not tell :I

I see no reason as to why not. Any contrary idea is absurd. I'd be willing to bet that some dudes on the forum are married...do they not have sex with their partners? I probably think not. It's natural for humans to want to do that shit and if you can't do it with a partner, most people (over 99% of guys) will turn to themselves.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dark Castle on January 19, 2012, 08:50:37 PM
Dude, you're a dude. Having porn is the norm, not the exception. I wouldn't worry.
I know, just some people you'd rather not tell :I

I see no reason as to why not. Any contrary idea is absurd. I'd be willing to bet that some dudes on the forum are married...do they not have sex with their partners? I probably think not. It's natural for humans to want to do that shit and if you can't do it with a partner, most people (over 99% of guys) will turn to themselves.
Luckily everyone's been pretty chill about it, and surprisingly, it's a pretty young forum 13-late 20's at most.  The Admin is only in his early 20s I believe.  But yeah everybody just let it drop and no one's giving me shit so that's a good sign :)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: 73109 on January 19, 2012, 08:51:46 PM
That would be a normal sign...seriously, just :hat
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dark Castle on January 19, 2012, 08:53:58 PM
ohh I am alright B))))
(https://i44.tinypic.com/oaxc77.png)
EDIT: Oh yeah, and even though I'll never collect it, I won the $20  :hat
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on January 20, 2012, 07:35:19 PM
Man, it feels so wrong that I've been hanging out with two of my best friends and I can't help but feel like a pile of shit all day. Lonely, depressed, and a bit anxious all day.

And my mood keeps bouncing up and down, which is not helping.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on January 20, 2012, 11:05:24 PM
^ I remember times like that.  Chin up, man--it DOES get better, trust me.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dark Castle on January 25, 2012, 12:37:53 PM
Well I just found out that my boss scheduled me all weekend even though I called a few days before the schedule was made to let him know I can't work this weekend. Now I can't attend Global Game Jam at my campus where we split into groups to make a game over 48 hours, and awards Sunday. My Game Design 111 teacher made it a requirement to attend and if we can't we have to make a game all by ourselves... So I guess its a good thing I've been making a shoot em up over the week in anticipation for Global Game Jam....
FUCK.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MasterShakezula on January 25, 2012, 02:44:12 PM
I'm in fear of the future, particularly of failing to get into a university out of HS.  Also, I realize more and more that I am probably just average, which means I was lied to by my family my entire life.  Finally, I am the person in my family who LEAST needs to see a psychologist, but next week, I'm going to be seeing one on a regular basis.  I am sane and not handicapped, and do not need a psychologist to know so. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: 73109 on January 25, 2012, 02:45:03 PM
You'll get into a university, you seem fairly smart.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: kirksnosehair on January 25, 2012, 02:53:38 PM
Dark Castle - pornography is pretty normal for a 19 year old person.  If someone else is uptight about it, that's THEIR problem, not yours.

Reality checks from my dad remind me of what a piece of shit I am.

You're not a piece of shit.  Don't let your dad define who or what you are.  Define yourself.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ħ on January 25, 2012, 03:05:52 PM
I'm in fear of the future, particularly of failing to get into a university out of HS.  Also, I realize more and more that I am probably just average, which means I was lied to by my family my entire life.  Finally, I am the person in my family who LEAST needs to see a psychologist, but next week, I'm going to be seeing one on a regular basis.  I am sane and not handicapped, and do not need a psychologist to know so. 
Hard to say if you were lied to.  We only know our own experience.  From what I know, my family and teachers always buttered me up, telling me I'm bright and smart.  I think I am.  But of course I think I am.  It's really hard to say.

I find that assuming you are better than you are is more effective than assuming you are worse than you are.  If you think you're average, and live with that attitude, the best you'll probably end up being is average.  If you think you're a genius, and live with that attitude, you might not actually acquire ingenuity, but you'll probably be higher than average.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Fiery Winds on January 30, 2012, 09:32:01 PM
So apparently you need at least 7 units to qualify for the state university grant at a California State University. Would have been nice for the financial aid office to tell me that 4 weeks ago, when I called to verify the readjusted amount of financial aid if I dropped my elective class and went down to 6 units. They said I'd get 75% of the grant for being 3/4 time (graduate level). Called today and got the truth AFTER the add/drop deadline. Guess who's out $1300? (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

On top of that, I accidentally texted my ex (clicked the wrong name), which was awkward and brought back horrible memories.  I've been reconsidering the teaching profession for awhile and have started searching for jobs related to my BS degree (pun intended) of Industrial Technology: Electronics and Computer Technology.  It's been 2.5 years since I graduated, so my skills aren't as fresh as they could be. 

I'm still living at home at 25 because I'm either in school or unable to get a job capable of supporting myself on my own, and being around my family all the time is really starting to take its toll.  I need to get out, and fast.

 :sadpanda:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MasterShakezula on January 30, 2012, 09:44:19 PM
My family and probably the school will as well try to indicate to me that I am screwed out of going to college unless I have a cumulative of like 4.2 or something, like the Asians who are in all honors and stuff. 

Most other students/people here tell me I'm quite fine with a GPA in the upper 3.Xs.  Also, apparently, one can transfer to a university from a community college by doing real well there, whilst saving a good amount of money.  Anyone here know more about that and whether it's true/a dependable method?

Why am I getting so anxious about school?  Why couldn't I have been more concerned and have tried to be more responsable 2 years ago?  (Good god do I sometimes kind of wish my family hadn't stopped being super strict with me about school when I entered high school.   Or were Asian.)  I am so dumb, in the sense that I get super worried about school sometimes, and then proceed to not care and half-ass things.  I really don't like myself when I do that and I keep on doing that because I'm too lazy and unmotivated to stop being lazy and unmotivated.  I mean, hot damn, my grandmother tried all through elementary and middle school emulating Asian parenting to teach me discipline and I LEARNED NOTHING FROM IT! 

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: dethklok09 on January 30, 2012, 09:48:48 PM
well you seem more concerned about this than I am about mine (and you're doing much better than I am in the first place). Anyway, I guess just do well on the standardized tests and shit. with a gpa in the 3 range you should be able to have a good selection of places to go to.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: antigoon on January 30, 2012, 09:54:24 PM
My family and probably the school will as well try to indicate to me that I am screwed out of going to college unless I have a cumulative of like 4.2 or something, like the Asians who are in all honors and stuff. 

Most other students/people here tell me I'm quite fine with a GPA in the upper 3.Xs.  Also, apparently, one can transfer to a university from a community college by doing real well there, whilst saving a good amount of money.  Anyone here know more about that and whether it's true/a dependable method?

Why am I getting so anxious about school?  Why couldn't I have been more concerned and have tried to be more responsable 2 years ago?  (Good god do I sometimes kind of wish my family hadn't stopped being super strict with me about school when I entered high school.   Or were Asian.)  I am so dumb, in the sense that I get super worried about school sometimes, and then proceed to not care and half-ass things.  I really don't like myself when I do that and I keep on doing that because I'm too lazy and unmotivated to stop being lazy and unmotivated.  I mean, hot damn, my grandmother tried all through elementary and middle school emulating Asian parenting to teach me discipline and I LEARNED NOTHING FROM IT! 



DID YOU NOT LISTEN TO ME A FEW DAYS AGO.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jcmistat on January 30, 2012, 09:56:22 PM
I'm still living at home at 25 because I'm either in school or unable to get a job capable of supporting myself on my own, and being around my family all the time is really starting to take its toll.  I need to get out, and fast.

 :sadpanda:

Turning 25 in July, that's exactly how I feel. The longer I stay at home the worse I'll be. I thought finally getting my first job (retail, 3 months ago) and making income would make me a lot happier. It's the opposite I'm more depressed than I've ever been. I can't afford to move out because I only work part time but no desire to work full. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ħ on January 30, 2012, 09:58:31 PM
My family and probably the school will as well try to indicate to me that I am screwed out of going to college unless I have a cumulative of like 4.2 or something, like the Asians who are in all honors and stuff. 

Most other students/people here tell me I'm quite fine with a GPA in the upper 3.Xs.  Also, apparently, one can transfer to a university from a community college by doing real well there, whilst saving a good amount of money.  Anyone here know more about that and whether it's true/a dependable method?

Why am I getting so anxious about school?  Why couldn't I have been more concerned and have tried to be more responsable 2 years ago?  (Good god do I sometimes kind of wish my family hadn't stopped being super strict with me about school when I entered high school.   Or were Asian.)  I am so dumb, in the sense that I get super worried about school sometimes, and then proceed to not care and half-ass things.  I really don't like myself when I do that and I keep on doing that because I'm too lazy and unmotivated to stop being lazy and unmotivated.  I mean, hot damn, my grandmother tried all through elementary and middle school emulating Asian parenting to teach me discipline and I LEARNED NOTHING FROM IT! 


Yep. I don't know how it is around the country, but definitely where we're from, the community college route is not only cheaper, but it increases your chances of getting accepted by colleges.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MasterShakezula on January 30, 2012, 10:01:44 PM
DID YOU NOT LISTEN TO ME A FEW DAYS AGO.

I did, but my irrational neurotic side speaks WAY louder than my rational, calm, side, and it proceeded to drive me into panic, like it does really well at.   That's probably much more  cause for concern than anything else, really.  Really, that side really ought to calm down a bit.  Or go away.  :P

(Really, that side of me is a pain in the ass and I'm sick of it as anyone.)

That said, you are definitely making more sense than my family/school authority people. 

Yep. I don't know how it is around the country, but definitely where we're from, the community college route is not only cheaper, but it increases your chances of getting accepted by colleges.

Interesting and will definitely want to consider giving that a shot.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Sigz on January 30, 2012, 10:11:19 PM
You can transfer to other unis from CCs, but do be aware that it is not always smooth process (i.e. go to CC for two years, transfer to a UC or other uni for another two years). Getting the classes you need at a CC can be a serious bitch, and basically every CC student I know will take more than four years to get their degree. Of course, it's much cheaper and so easier to support yourself there than at a university.

However, you can definitely still get into a UC with a GPA in the upper 3s, so don't fret about that.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Fiery Winds on January 30, 2012, 10:19:12 PM
You can transfer to other unis from CCs, but do be aware that it is not always smooth process (i.e. go to CC for two years, transfer to a UC or other uni for another two years). Getting the classes you need at a CC can be a serious bitch, and basically every CC student I know will take more than four years to get their degree. Of course, it's much cheaper and so easier to support yourself there than at a university.

However, you can definitely still get into a UC with a GPA in the upper 3s, so don't fret about that.

This.  I went the CC to CSU route, and it was much cheaper than going to CSU full time.  If you don't know what you want to major in, just complete all your lower-division General Education courses.  There are 3 GE plans: CSU, UC, and both.  As long as you FULLY complete the plan and have it certified by the CC, it's automatically accepted by the transfer university.  If it's not completed and certified, they can nitpick about qualifying classes, but if it's certified they have to accept it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ħ on January 30, 2012, 11:34:24 PM
I realized that I'm not getting married or having a family. It's just not going to happen. :/

Through a minute of self-reflection, how did I get from such a high place to such a low one? Crap, the evening's ruined.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on January 30, 2012, 11:37:11 PM
I've been doing that for years now. And I'm not the best person to give advice on this sort of thing (you know, practice what you preach) but I'm seeing a counselor about this very thing. It's all about self control of thoughts and apparently getting yourself to counter-react to those thoughts with something more positive or add a new twist like "Actually fuck that I have no way of truly telling that it's always going to be this way" and then just leave it at that.


I'm right there with ya man, trying really hard to maintain a less...negative thought pattern.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MasterShakezula on January 30, 2012, 11:45:30 PM
I have no interest in having a family.  Could take it or leave marriage.  So, I can't really relate to you, H.  Try not to get so down.  And also, don't be so sure you're not going to be able to get something.  That sort of mindset leads to a self-fulfilling prophecy. 

Question:  Any of y'all have to deal with an panic-y, neurotic side that irrationally ends up dominating your good, rational side when stressed or worried?  If so, what are some things you do to let reason prevail and your logical side maintain control? 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jcmistat on January 30, 2012, 11:46:13 PM
I realized that I'm not getting married or having a family. It's just not going to happen. :/

Through a minute of self-reflection, how did I get from such a high place to such a low one? Crap, the evening's ruined.

I can't see myself doing those either. Although I want to get married I don't know if I could start a family. Not thinking I'd be a good father. Don't worry my night's ruined too.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on January 31, 2012, 12:14:15 AM
I have no interest in having a family.  Could take it or leave marriage.  So, I can't really relate to you, H.  Try not to get so down.  And also, don't be so sure you're not going to be able to get something.  That sort of mindset leads to a self-fulfilling prophecy. 

Question:  Any of y'all have to deal with an panic-y, neurotic side that irrationally ends up dominating your good, rational side when stressed or worried?  If so, what are some things you do to let reason prevail and your logical side maintain control?
Once again, it's behaviour like this that has caused me to see a counselor through my school. I can't quite say I have a good fix for it, but it really is very much about controlling your thought patterns by coming up with new things to replace the negative with. Especially when you get yourself in a never ending circle of irrational thoughts like "I'll be alone forever".
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cyclopssss on January 31, 2012, 06:49:31 AM
I realized that I'm not getting married or having a family. It's just not going to happen. :/

Through a minute of self-reflection, how did I get from such a high place to such a low one? Crap, the evening's ruined.

Dude, you´re 20 frigging years old! Hell, at that age, I hadn´t even had my first gf, let alone a sexual relationship!

Things happen when they happen, the way they happen and when you LEAST expect them to happen, is my experience.
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Post by: kirksnosehair on January 31, 2012, 12:15:22 PM
I realized that I'm not getting married or having a family. It's just not going to happen. :/

Through a minute of self-reflection, how did I get from such a high place to such a low one? Crap, the evening's ruined.

Dude, you´re 20 frigging years old! Hell, at that age, I hadn´t even had my first gf, let alone a sexual relationship!

Things happen when they happen, the way they happen and when you LEAST expect them to happen, is my experience.

Wisdom
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: yorost on January 31, 2012, 12:22:06 PM
I realized that I'm not getting married or having a family. It's just not going to happen. :/

Through a minute of self-reflection, how did I get from such a high place to such a low one? Crap, the evening's ruined.

Dude, you´re 20 frigging years old! Hell, at that age, I hadn´t even had my first gf, let alone a sexual relationship!

Things happen when they happen, the way they happen and when you LEAST expect them to happen, is my experience.

Wisdom
Yup, can't say how many people say this, and it's so true for me.  Of my two most serious relationships, one was completely unexpected right up to when it started, and the other happened almost on accident (and ended in marriage :lol ).
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on February 28, 2012, 04:50:41 PM
Feeling a little down lately because it's dawned on me that I am graduating in college and there are so many ways my future could go. Just a little scared and worried I guess that they won't go the way I want them to. If anyone here has ever felt like this before, a PM or reply would mean a great deal right now.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: snapple on February 29, 2012, 08:33:32 AM
Just trying to figure out what I am going to do with my life. I have crazy good support from Courtney and parents, but, still gets me down from time to time.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jcmistat on February 29, 2012, 06:44:22 PM
I am still planning to quit my job in April (only been working there since Oct) but I'm having second thoughts

I want to find a new/better job, maybe go back to school, something outside of the box. I'm worrying the downtime trying to find what I want to do will destroy me.
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Post by: Dr. DTVT on February 29, 2012, 08:58:24 PM
Feeling a little down lately because it's dawned on me that I am graduating in college and there are so many ways my future could go. Just a little scared and worried I guess that they won't go the way I want them to. If anyone here has ever felt like this before, a PM or reply would mean a great deal right now.

All you kids out there...here's what I tell my college students when they start worrying about this kind of stuff.

You DON'T have to know what you want to do when you graduate college - or even before that.  Changing careers is somewhat common nowadays because people tend to get bored with things faster since we have access to and are exposed to an exponentially greater amount of information than previous generations.  If you know what you want to do, great.  But if you don't just keep looking for your calling and hold down the fort until you find it, or it finds you.  Becoming a university professor wasn't really an idea I had for myself until I was 25 and passed my prelim.  Before that I was just doing chemistry I liked with no real thought of where it would take me.

Life is NOT going to follow you script you try to write, so don't try to script too much, or you're just going to be dissapointed.  I didn't marry my college gf, my football coaching career got curtailed by chemistry and school work, and the wealth I accumulated didn't come from some grand idea overnight, I earned it grinding away at work, poker tables, and over backgammon boards.  My friend's wife died of cancer at the age of 25.  Shit happens that you can't possibly prepare for, so just keep loose plans like, "find a job I like", or "pay down student debt early".  Is where I am and what I'm doing what I imagined for myself when I was in college?  No.  Am I enjoying the unexpected ride?  By and large yes.

You're not that special.  Don't worry, neither am I.  Prepare to accept that your life will by and large...be average.  The upside to that is that the people you see that you think are successful aren't that much further from you - usually only separated by years of experience you will eventually gain.  Your generation has by and large been shielded from failure, and the bid bad real world is going be an ice cold pitcher of water dumped on you.  It's not lethal though, its just water.  Dry yourself off and continue on with life.  Shake it off and carve out your little niche.  The world probably won't know your name, but if you do things right you'll permanently etch it into the hearts and minds a few people.  Do them wrong and you end up on youtube or reality TV :)

Don't try to micromanage your life.  You only get one chance to live.  While we all have to work and take care of our responsibilities, but make sure you take at least a few minutes everyday to do something you enjoy, no matter how frivolous it may seem - it will keep you sane.

You can dissavow all this now - I know I would have...but in 10 years you'll be making this same post to the next batch of kids, and I'll be right here to say with a wink, "I told you so."
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfandwolfandwolf on February 29, 2012, 11:20:47 PM
 :tup DTVT.  I loved that post.  I don't fret about too many things post-college, but this is also because I didn't have the typical college experience.  I try to tell myself what you just shared very often.  It keeps things together.  Life is too good to waste on worrying about things that may or may not happen.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfandwolfandwolf on March 02, 2012, 08:55:35 AM
In contrast to my above post, while I don't worry about the future too much, I do feel this way:

I generally feel like a failure at most things I try.  I lack will power.  I am lazy.  I have guilt over my failings.  It just kind of self-perpetuates from failure, to guilt, to sadness, to more failure.

I wish I would just do the good things that I think about doing.  I feel helpless a lot of the time, and I'm generally selfish.  I'm horrified of failing as a husband.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TimelessSymphony on March 08, 2012, 07:38:07 AM
Okay so lately i've been feeling like total crap... i got this depression since july so i think its 8 months since i got it... right now i don't have a job or going to school and to be honest i don't know what the fuck i'm gonna do in my future since i got this freaking learning disability... (M.I.D.) Mild Intellectual Disorder or something like that... i got out of high school in 2010 so all i did was eat, sleep and computer almost every day...

I tried to see a shrink but i have trouble to trust people and it's kinda hard... also i came out of the closet last year and it's all new to me... i have trouble to make friends... i always do something awkward or they just remove me out of their lives.... this part might sound pathetic to you guy's but here i go.. sometimes when i'm angry i tend to erm cut myself i guess i don't know how to managed to control my anger... High school was the worst time for me *sigh* i had a few friends but also got into shits for no reasons...

So in one word Depression sucks ass...
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: OsMosis2259 on March 09, 2012, 12:40:35 PM
Feeling a little down lately because it's dawned on me that I am graduating in college and there are so many ways my future could go. Just a little scared and worried I guess that they won't go the way I want them to. If anyone here has ever felt like this before, a PM or reply would mean a great deal right now.

That is a very normal feeling that we all have especially after graduating.  If you think about it, during college and all the years before, everything in our life is pretty much organized and set up. Its a structure that we just follow and go with it but once college ends, its really all upto you and you get that overwhelming feeling and start thinking about what you are going to do.

You really just got to take action my friend. I graduated just before the summer of 2010, took a 2 month vacation in Turkey to see my family and friends that I haven't seen in a very long time. Then it was just time to apply for jobs every where and basically figuring things out. That process took awhile for me but I did other things in the meantime to keep me busy like play in a band, go to the gym, and just stay positive. Staying positive is the most important thing and you need to surround yourself with positive people and are happy and then that will push you to head in that direction. I freelanced for a year, lived at home and saved money but here I am now with a full time job that I am happy with and recently moved to my own apt.

I faced a lot of negativity the past year and a half and I felt the same way you did but the best thing to do is to take action, stay positive, and surround yourself with people that are not necessarily "better" than you but you know are successful or are going to be successful in the future.       
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on March 10, 2012, 06:47:00 PM
Thanks for the advice guys! Little late posting this but it's nice to know there are people out there who know what I'm going through and who can also lend a helping hand! Still feeling nervous right now, but I'm a hardworking guy who loves to "take action" - and I think I'm going to do great!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ħ on March 13, 2012, 01:38:12 AM
Feel like I just overcame a MAJOR depression. For the past two weeks, I've been sleeping in past noon, getting 10+ hours of sleep. BREAKING THROUGH. :victorydance:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on March 13, 2012, 06:35:09 AM
Good to hear H!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on March 14, 2012, 01:04:17 AM
Guess where a genuinely frustrated and pissed off and depressed Alex decided to put his fist today.


Go ahead. Guess.





Well let's just say it's a good thing I don't care about this one at all and I've had it for...7 years.  (https://puu.sh/kILU)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ħ on March 14, 2012, 01:11:02 AM
Dude maybe you should calm down.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on March 14, 2012, 01:19:22 AM
I was pissed off. At what? I have no clue. It kind of came out of nowhere. After beating that guitar to death, I went to the gym and ran on the treadmill for 40 minutes and then worked a 6 hour shift.


Eh.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on March 18, 2012, 08:06:36 PM
I have not been this depressed in a god damn long time. Truly heart broken. :( and the one person who I could have talked to about it is the reason I'm so heart broken. No anger, just depression.
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Post by: jcmistat on March 18, 2012, 11:19:31 PM
Best friend's fiance just got diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis and my sister with Undifferentiated Schizophrenia both under 30. There's more to say but that's enough. I should be feel worse but I don't. I know it will hit me later though. I know I am depressed in the inside. For now its just ignored.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ħ on March 19, 2012, 12:00:29 AM
I have not been this depressed in a god damn long time. Truly heart broken. :( and the one person who I could have talked to about it is the reason I'm so heart broken. No anger, just depression.
I'm sorry to hear that. :/
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on March 19, 2012, 12:20:23 AM
I have not been this depressed in a god damn long time. Truly heart broken. :( and the one person who I could have talked to about it is the reason I'm so heart broken. No anger, just depression.
Did what I think happened, happen?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on March 19, 2012, 08:57:56 AM
I have not been this depressed in a god damn long time. Truly heart broken. :( and the one person who I could have talked to about it is the reason I'm so heart broken. No anger, just depression.
Did what I think happened, happen?

Unless you think zombies ate my mom or something, then yes I would say probably so.
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Post by: Silver Tears on March 19, 2012, 11:38:16 AM
I have not been this depressed in a god damn long time. Truly heart broken. :( and the one person who I could have talked to about it is the reason I'm so heart broken. No anger, just depression.

I'm sorry Adami  :(

I'm sure you'll get through it soon enough, but for now, I give you a hug and some cookies. Eat as many as you like, internet cookies are low in calories.  :heart



Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ħ on March 19, 2012, 01:32:13 PM
I have not been this depressed in a god damn long time. Truly heart broken. :( and the one person who I could have talked to about it is the reason I'm so heart broken. No anger, just depression.
Did what I think happened, happen?

Unless you think zombies ate my mom or something, then yes I would say probably so.
Sorry Adami...hope you pull through it. I believe you have the strength to get through.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on March 19, 2012, 01:35:13 PM
Thanks guys. I know I'll get through, but it's going to be a tough road for a while. I talked to her literally every day, for 5 months or so. And now I have to adjust to essentially not having anyone to talk to. And I promised her, for her sake (since there was a big issue with her family over it) that I wouldn't contact her, so I have to keep fighting the urge to tell her how much I care about her and love her.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ħ on March 19, 2012, 01:41:44 PM
Thanks guys. I know I'll get through, but it's going to be a tough road for a while. I talked to her literally every day, for 5 months or so. And now I have to adjust to essentially not having anyone to talk to. And I promised her, for her sake (since there was a big issue with her family over it) that I wouldn't contact her, so I have to keep fighting the urge to tell her how much I care about her and love her.
That sounds tough. It's one thing to be heartbroken but able to fight it off through anger, but when it's something circumstantial that comes up like this, there's no appropriate response but depression. =/

I hope you find somebody though. I think you will. From what I know of you, you're still relatively young and you've got lots of time. :)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on March 19, 2012, 01:43:41 PM
Oh yea, I know eventually I will be okay. But until then, life sucks, you know?

And yea, there's no anger at her what so ever. She was as against this as I was, it was just circumstantial crap and now we're both having to suffer for it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on March 19, 2012, 01:46:46 PM
Life does indeed suck sometimes  :-\  and circumstantial crap being the cause is just ridiculously annoying
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Progmetty on March 27, 2012, 05:53:50 PM
Lately I've been doing that thing where I put my head between my elbows with my hands raised and apply pressure with my arms for 5 to 10 minutes, better done on a carpeted floor. I do that when I feel like crying and it works to prevent crying. Yesterday and the day before it resulted in nose bleeds and subsequent oversleep, which sucks cause the whole point of this is to keep the depression hidden, usually something I'm a master at.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: LCArenas on March 27, 2012, 11:31:09 PM
Fuck. I don't even know how to feel, I don't know whether to feel sad about the situation I've had since the year started or hating myself like I've done for years. Let's say the dark side of me likes to tear me apart, and no one in the world knows how to do it better than him.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on March 27, 2012, 11:32:34 PM
Lately I've been doing that thing where I put my head between my elbows with my hands raised and apply pressure with my arms for 5 to 10 minutes, better done on a carpeted floor. I do that when I feel like crying and it works to prevent crying. Yesterday and the day before it resulted in nose bleeds and subsequent oversleep, which sucks cause the whole point of this is to keep the depression hidden, usually something I'm a master at.

Jesus dude, just cry.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lonestar on March 28, 2012, 12:18:32 AM
Lately I've been doing that thing where I put my head between my elbows with my hands raised and apply pressure with my arms for 5 to 10 minutes, better done on a carpeted floor. I do that when I feel like crying and it works to prevent crying. Yesterday and the day before it resulted in nose bleeds and subsequent oversleep, which sucks cause the whole point of this is to keep the depression hidden, usually something I'm a master at.

Jesus dude, just cry.

Totally agree.  Feeling is healing.  I can't even begin the amount of good, solid, snot dripping cries I've had in the last almost ten months, trying to deal with thirty years of fucking up my life.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfandwolfandwolf on March 28, 2012, 09:58:22 AM
Sometimes I have sad feelings and they are circumstantial.  They go away after like a day or so.

Right now I'm in total desperation mode over who I am.  I don't like myself.  Know what I mean?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on March 29, 2012, 01:21:56 PM
Yes, I do.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MajorMatt on April 06, 2012, 07:42:42 PM
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Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on April 13, 2012, 05:58:15 PM
So. I sent her a letter a week or two ago. The letter was pretty long and heartfelt, just expressing how I felt, feel etc. Quite hard to write. I also wrote and recorded her a song and sent that to her as well. Now, I made the dumb move of putting in the letter that she doesn't have to respond because I wouldn't reply, due to my agreeing to never talk to her per her parents/communities wishes.


Now I sit here, and think to myself "did she get the letter?" "Did she laugh at it?". A million other worse ones as well. I don't want to contact her again to ask if she's got it because it kind of defeats the purpose of writing the letter in the first place. But it eats at me day after day. I have not been this depressed in a very long time and it seems to get worse on a daily basis.

I dunno. No one to vent to either, kind of sucks. Good thing for this thread.

Also might be because it's exactly a month since we broke up. And I have this feeling she has a new boyfriend, forgot about me etc. Aint life grand?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MajorMatt on April 13, 2012, 06:46:02 PM
Hey Adami, I've never had to go through what you are now because I've always been single. The anniversary could have alot to do with this, but in my eyes you should be thankful for what you shared, taking advice from someone inexperienced may seem daft, but at the end of the day you have shared something I didn't get the chance to - youre probably better advising me  :D Although it may seem hard and although I may seem cliched, stay on the positive side, but remember its perfectly natural for you to get down once in a while :)

Peace.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on April 21, 2012, 12:52:19 PM
Just found out her parents/community had nothing to do with it and she just made that up as an excuse to leave me.


Awesome. And to think I was actually starting to feel better.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on April 22, 2012, 01:07:23 PM
Adami, I'd love to come in here and give you some awesome advice to cheer you right up but I don't know the whole situation and rather than asking a heap of nosy questions, I'll just say I'm sorry you're still in a bad place over this and I hope things pick up soon. I'm only a pm away if you wanna chat though. Many internet hugs  :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on April 22, 2012, 01:19:13 PM
I'm so sorry to hear about all this Adami. Again, feel free to PM me if needed.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: OsMosis2259 on April 23, 2012, 09:09:54 AM
Stay up my friend. Trust me, you will get through this and this an experience that many of us go through.  You just mentioned that she lied about the whole parents thing. She isn't the one man and you will realize it more as time goes by.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wkiml on April 23, 2012, 09:20:39 AM
Been really fighting lately trying to keep my mind at ease.

Not one to normally get depressed , but on 04/09 my ex-wife( my best friend and companion) in this world passed from cancer. I now am trying to raise 3 teenage boys by myself and have to keep my head clear for multiple reasons

I am a recovering alcoholic and one slip will more than likely send me spiralling out of control , causing me to lose the kids as well. Secondly the kids or I should say my oldest (17) is fighting me tooth an nail over everything since his mom passed. Everytime I tell him he can't do something or I have prior plans he throws it in my face that his mom would have let him or he made these so-called arrrangements with her before she passed, which I know is a load of bullshit, because she always kept me informed of what arrangements she made with him.

He's really pushing me to the point where I want to pack his bags for him and tell him if the world is so cherry outside OUR  house, heres your shit get out I don't need the aggravation and find out for yourself just how good you have it at home.

 

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on April 23, 2012, 09:37:06 AM
Anytime you need to vent you talk to is Bill.  We are here for you.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wkiml on April 23, 2012, 09:45:20 AM
Thanks King   I do find that writing here helps, but the general mood of the board is usually cheerful and I don't like bringing everyone down
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on April 23, 2012, 10:14:10 AM
wkiml I'm so sorry about your ex-wife, I hope you and your boys get through it all ok. Bringing up three teenagers alone on top of everything must be tough. Don't worry about bringing people down here, if writing helps you it's the least we can do to listen. Like King said, we're here for you  :)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfandwolfandwolf on April 23, 2012, 10:26:59 AM
Nearly wiped out my savings to get my car fixed today.  It's not a good day.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dark Castle on April 23, 2012, 11:35:55 AM
Earlier this month my ex asked me if I'd go to prom with one of her friends as buddies, and at first I was alright with it, but the more I thought about it, the more I thought it was a bad idea, so today I told her I couldn't, as the month went along she and her friend just kept assuming I was going and kept asking me what I would wear and if I'd pick her up and crap, and it just really pissed me off that she was planning on stuff without even asking me, so yeah.. this along with the fact that this one place that wants to interview for a job keeps putting me off and keeps asking me to come back when I've told them multiple times that I'm up in school M-F.  I came in this morning after calling this past Friday and telling them I could come in this morning, as my classes didn't start til 11, I sat there for 10 minutes, and the manager just had the front desk clerk tell me she can't see me today, come in tomorrow or call again.  WHAT THE FUCK, IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO HIRE PEOPLE ASAP AS YOU TOLD ME OVER THE PHONE, FUCKING INTERVIEW ME AND QUIT STALLING.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on April 23, 2012, 11:49:19 AM
Adami, I'd love to come in here and give you some awesome advice to cheer you right up but I don't know the whole situation and rather than asking a heap of nosy questions, I'll just say I'm sorry you're still in a bad place over this and I hope things pick up soon. I'm only a pm away if you wanna chat though. Many internet hugs  :heart

I really appreciate it. Actually it turns out my last comment about her was a misunderstanding. We had a long talk last night and cleared up a lot of issues. She still feels we can't be friends for more understandable reasons, so I'm still rather sad about that, but it's easier knowing more.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Silver Tears on April 23, 2012, 01:31:01 PM
It's always easier to come to terms with something if you understand the reasons behind it huh. And maybe not trying to stay friends straight after breaking up is a good idea anyway, I think that can be quite hard. And who knows, you might be able to get back to friendship again after some time.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on April 23, 2012, 05:53:47 PM
I have no idea what I'm doing with my life. :sadpanda:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on April 24, 2012, 06:04:05 PM
Been really fighting lately trying to keep my mind at ease.

Not one to normally get depressed , but on 04/09 my ex-wife( my best friend and companion) in this world passed from cancer. I now am trying to raise 3 teenage boys by myself and have to keep my head clear for multiple reasons

I am a recovering alcoholic and one slip will more than likely send me spiralling out of control , causing me to lose the kids as well. Secondly the kids or I should say my oldest (17) is fighting me tooth an nail over everything since his mom passed. Everytime I tell him he can't do something or I have prior plans he throws it in my face that his mom would have let him or he made these so-called arrrangements with her before she passed, which I know is a load of bullshit, because she always kept me informed of what arrangements she made with him.

He's really pushing me to the point where I want to pack his bags for him and tell him if the world is so cherry outside OUR  house, heres your shit get out I don't need the aggravation and find out for yourself just how good you have it at home.

This sounds awful. So sorry to hear about your situation. Maybe try sitting down with your son and telling him the only way your family is going to get past this is if you bond together and don't fight or something of the sorts.

Nearly wiped out my savings to get my car fixed today.  It's not a good day.

Ouch. This next year I expect to be doing much of the same: Working to save money, and then pouring all that money into paying off student loans. Adult life is pretty sweet with some obvious exceptions it seems.

Earlier this month my ex asked me if I'd go to prom with one of her friends as buddies, and at first I was alright with it, but the more I thought about it, the more I thought it was a bad idea, so today I told her I couldn't, as the month went along she and her friend just kept assuming I was going and kept asking me what I would wear and if I'd pick her up and crap, and it just really pissed me off that she was planning on stuff without even asking me, so yeah.. this along with the fact that this one place that wants to interview for a job keeps putting me off and keeps asking me to come back when I've told them multiple times that I'm up in school M-F.  I came in this morning after calling this past Friday and telling them I could come in this morning, as my classes didn't start til 11, I sat there for 10 minutes, and the manager just had the front desk clerk tell me she can't see me today, come in tomorrow or call again.  WHAT THE FUCK, IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO HIRE PEOPLE ASAP AS YOU TOLD ME OVER THE PHONE, FUCKING INTERVIEW ME AND QUIT STALLING.

I just finished about three months of constant interviews. What a shitty fucking process. I feel your pain there dude.

I have no idea what I'm doing with my life. :sadpanda:

At least you care enough to realize it! :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: 73109 on April 24, 2012, 09:18:10 PM
I have no idea what I'm doing with my life. :sadpanda:

Being awesome. That's what!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dark Castle on May 03, 2012, 01:22:34 AM
I've failed one class for sure this semester, and math I might have, but if I don't it will be cutting it barely.  My mom is coming up to help me pack up so I can leave tomorrow, and they always pressure me to do good, what the fuck am I going to tell her?  And what the fuck am I going to tell my dad?  I'm prepared for this summer for them to just be disappointed in me and I'm feeling really depressed, because I don't know how I'm going to tell them.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on May 24, 2012, 06:19:42 PM
Little bit of a bump but I'm a fairly calm and happy person but I just had such an intense burst of anger I went for a 45 minute all out sprint to get it out.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: senecadawg2 on May 24, 2012, 06:53:49 PM
:clap:

Exercise is a good way to deal with these kinds of problems.

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on May 24, 2012, 07:03:48 PM
Yea ive been using exercise as an outlet for problems for many years. If I have any more issue I'll be extremely ripped. :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ħ on May 25, 2012, 06:34:10 PM
Awesome. I've been doing that too. It's been wearing me out - I'm super tired but thankfully not depressed.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on June 01, 2012, 08:08:14 AM
I keep on fucking up my applications to jobs and internships. I forget to put my current address on one, I forgot to change my status to graduated with a history minor on four of them...and the person I emailed to request a recommendation from hasn't gotten back to me. I'm freaking out. I'm so bad at this.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dark Castle on June 05, 2012, 02:49:36 PM
I'm suspended from Financial Aid indefinitely.
Who cares that I did well in all of my other classes, one F is enough to fucking rock the boat and throw me into a raging sea.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Progmetty on June 20, 2012, 08:08:56 AM
Anyone here had consistent depression for at least two month?
I find very weird changes to my habits and personality. One small example of those things is sleep.
I've been sleeping a whole lot recently, with strange inconsistent patterns and with such depth that waking me up in the first few hours of my sleep is impossible, my wife describes shaking me and talking to me without response.
And then after these first few hours I would go on sleeping, seemingly not waking up unless somebody wakes me up, I've done 14 hours a few times. When I wake up I never feel that it has been that long, I drink some water and I sit at my computer desk browsing the usual sites I frequent and a couple hours later I'm looking forward to the time when I'll go to bed again, genuinely sleepy but not tired at all. I watch The Simpsons on my iPad in bed so I go and spend time there hoping to fall asleep just for being in bed and it used to "mostly" work and now it always works, I can fall asleep at will at anytime I chose to and I'm starting to chose to more often than ever.
My weight is not increasing but it's not decreasing obviously, I don't eat more or less than before thankfully. But I feel weak and collapsible, if the term works. I don't want anything from anyone and the idea of peace in my head now is the day no one wants or expects anything from me. I'm faraway from that day as my family expects some things from me and relies on me, no one to blame but me as I initiated all their expectations, but that's not what I'm discussing here.
I get very angry very quickly and yet I remain outwardly calm, I don't yell or scream at anyone or myself.
There are no outdoor activities that interest me at all, at least not free ones. I don't go out walking anymore as it bores me to no end and that reflects on my psychological state as well and that's another new thing; boredom ignites anger now with me. I stopped riding my bicycle for the same reason. I can't stand anything related to psychical effort, not from laziness or exhaustion, just from boredom and lack of purpose or immediate results.
People depressed about things they had no hand in inflecting upon themselves are people I consider lucky, I know injustice has it's own sting but it cannot be comparable to knowing that everything I'm going through are results of my choices, I have no one to blame for anything.
I don't wanna learn anything anymore, nothing that takes more than a minute of reading to understand is acceptable to me unless it's interesting to me, fuck beneficial, interesting only, I still spend long hours reading history books and heavily involved in my country's politics and it's internet life. But learn how different guitar tunings work and what they mean? A fuckin astronomical impossibly. I need it to play some songs I'm learning for fun but fucksake the thing requires some reading and understanding how and why it's done and it's too fuckin boring.
I was only gonna talk about the sleep thing but I think I'll keep going a bit more since it felt good to share. --- I wrote this then I took a sip of water and now I really don't wanna type anything cause everything I have makes me feel pathetic. Thanks for reading, do not try to work out suggestions or ideas for me, I was just venting.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Nighthawkwill7 on June 20, 2012, 08:12:48 PM
I've been away for awhile due to some personal issues...

I was kicked out of my own house due to repeated conflicts with my viper of a stepfather. My father  now owes my mother $11,000 in child support money due to some bs technicality even though he had already paid (unjustly). Funny thing is my Mother makes more than he does and together with her husband, pull in a yearly sum well into the six figures. Way to go "Justice" system.

Since I was booted from my house, I moved in with my uncle (Father's side), I had to quit school and start working but none of the jobs seem to last. Been through three in the last two months and on top of that, my uncle is currently in a financial slump due to slow business in the auto parts distribution sector. So here I am, struggling emotionally and financially, Watching my cash mongering mother and that well to do consort of her's siphon money out of my father even though she was the one who started the ball rolling by being unfaithful in the first place, Just because they can. I just don't... I really am at a loss for words.

 >:( 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Progmetty on July 23, 2012, 10:14:47 AM
That Dream Theater concerts week earlier this month was such a nice break. My excitement and cheerfulness that resulted from that week is just wearing off now, which is pretty amazing since it's been 2 weeks, but meeting JP, meeting great DTFers and seeing DT two nights, one of which being the I&W celebration night, having cool seats at both and just generally taking the whole experience and giving it more priority and importance than to let my depression ruin it, was a great push and joy to know I can force myself out of this condition if I can ever summon a strong enough motive or purpose.
The most pathetic thought that ever crossed mind was this morning, I saw a retirement home bus taking some elderly people to a picnic I guess and I thought it would be amazing if I can flash forward my life to that point cause I wanna do exactly what they're doing with their lives right now. Nothing, waiting for the end, but not in a morbid way, this is not meant to sound dramatic, these people looked genuinely relaxed and happy.
But do they look relaxed cause they're happy about what they've done or are they happy cause it's all good now? Another way to ask the question would be:- if you have done nothing with your life to be proud of ,or at least point out as significant, would you still be happy and relaxed at that retirement home?
Silly stuff, I know.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: senecadawg2 on July 23, 2012, 11:06:49 AM
I wouldn't say I'm depressed, but I have been quite angry recently.

I'm 17, almost 18, and I have been raised by my mom after my parents divorced some 15 years ago (too early for me to remember). Anyways, I have always lived with my mom in various parts of the country (NY, MS, NC, VA), while my father has always lived in Boston. With distance being an issue, I have never seen too much of him. I used to see him almost every year, but the last couple of times a few years passed between visits. My mom has been very nice to him for not demanding that he helps out with payments, as he is very far from wealthy. He does send some money when he can, but not nearly the full amount required by the law with two divorced parents who share joint custody of a child (why they have joint custody in the first place is something that I've never understood. He doesn't deserve it). Anyways, long story short: he was an atrocious husband, and he has been an atrocious father. He still does however claim to love me and my brother more than anything in the world. He calls everyday, and seems to care, even though we don't really know each other. I don't know why, but recently it has made me more angry then ever. I used to just accept what was happening and pretend to care for him. It's now been about 10 days that I haven't answered his phone calls. Every day he calls almost twice and leaves messages, asking why I don't answer the phone. It should be pretty clear by now that I don't want to talk to him, but he just keeps at it.
 >:(

Maybe I need a lesson in forgiveness.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: chknptpie on July 23, 2012, 01:39:35 PM
TMI below



I've come to the conclusion I can't play hockey when I'm PMSing.. I get too pissed off and start cursing like a sailor.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: senecadawg2 on July 23, 2012, 02:23:43 PM
Nothing wrong with that!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dr. DTVT on July 23, 2012, 10:45:43 PM
Seneca,

While my situation was different from yours, don't doubt that your father does love you.  My dad was was an awesome dad when I was kid, and when he left my mom when I was in college I did some awful things to him, his g/f at the time, and his g/f's kids.  Things I'm embarrassed and ashamed of.  We were estranged for several years.  But he never lashed back, and he kept trying to get my forgiveness until I realized I treated him unfairly.

Look at lonestar, he was estranged from his daughter for a while and now that's all he talks about.  We all make mistakes.  You only have one dad, and all he wants is the best for you.  If your parents were young when they separated maybe it was because he wasn't ready or capable of being a good husband and father.  People mature.  If he's hitting you up for bail money then cutting the string might not be the worst thing, but if he just wants to see how you are doing and what you are up to, by all means let him in.  The best part about my getting my Ph.D. wasn't my committee telling me I passed, it two separate moments - the first was when I called my dad after I passed and he broke down with tears of joy in a very public place.  The second was at the graduation ceremony and I think this photo sums it up:

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/555276_10101010722445973_1716438000_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: senecadawg2 on July 25, 2012, 10:04:58 AM
Thanks a lot Doc DTVT, I needed that.

I don't feel that I have been unfair to him, only that he has gotten what he deserves. However, this is both a spiteful and unhealthy way to proceed in my relationship with him, and it needs to stop. Once again, thanks
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lonestar on July 25, 2012, 12:23:06 PM
I just need to check in somewhere. As most of you know, I got sober last year after thirty years of drinking and drugging. For the most part it's been great, but I am finding one this really fucking hard to deal with, and it is getting worse. My substance abuse habits were a product of an abusive childhood, and the emotions that I was drowning are all coming to the surface now. I have no control over them, they are tired of hiding and waiting, they need to be felt. It started a few weeks ago, as a subtle rise in me, and exploded yesterday. After a two hour long blowout, I was able to calm down with a friend's help, but now I am just feeling lost and empty, like the basis of all I am is gone, and I have to build anew. I feel guilty when I dump it on friends, it's some really heavy shit, and I care too much about them to hand them that type of crap. I know I got a long, slow road of more recovery ahead of me, but damn is it really hard sometimes. I do see a therapist btw, and work a heavy recovery, and they help, but the hours in between get overwhelming. Part of me looks forward to this, getting to relearn all the bad ideas I believed about myself, being a bit more positive on a day to day basis, but the road to that scares the shit out of me. As with everything else, I can only take it one day at a time.

Thanks for letting vent, I needed to get it out. I haven't been posting much, my heart just isn't in it, and this is why. Love you guys.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MasterShakezula on July 25, 2012, 12:25:50 PM
starman, man, that's heavy.  I really wish you the best working those feelings and thoughts out.  You seem like the sort of guy who can do it. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lonestar on July 25, 2012, 12:40:42 PM
Thanks cup, it's a matter of time more than anything else. Something I read last night really fits with what I'm going through now...

"I have to keep my yesterdays from crashing into my todays and destroying my tomorrows."

Fucking bingo.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: senecadawg2 on July 25, 2012, 12:42:16 PM
Stay strong and focus on being the best that you can be in the present moment. You are a model of perfection; you just need to believe it and live like you do believe it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dr. DTVT on July 25, 2012, 12:48:24 PM
lonestar, not that I can relate to what you're going through, but if you ever need something let me know.  shoot me a PM here or on FB if you want my phone number.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lonestar on July 25, 2012, 12:56:56 PM
I appreciate that bud. Got a decent amount of support here, just feeling raw in it right now. Just had a long talk with my mom about it, not easy to say the least, but she has to know why I'm sounding down. I told her just to be patient, it's something that has to occur for my long term happiness and sanity.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on July 25, 2012, 01:29:15 PM
I just need to check in somewhere. As most of you know, I got sober last year after thirty years of drinking and drugging. For the most part it's been great, but I am finding one this really fucking hard to deal with, and it is getting worse. My substance abuse habits were a product of an abusive childhood, and the emotions that I was drowning are all coming to the surface now. I have no control over them, they are tired of hiding and waiting, they need to be felt. It started a few weeks ago, as a subtle rise in me, and exploded yesterday. After a two hour long blowout, I was able to calm down with a friend's help, but now I am just feeling lost and empty, like the basis of all I am is gone, and I have to build anew. I feel guilty when I dump it on friends, it's some really heavy shit, and I care too much about them to hand them that type of crap. I know I got a long, slow road of more recovery ahead of me, but damn is it really hard sometimes. I do see a therapist btw, and work a heavy recovery, and they help, but the hours in between get overwhelming. Part of me looks forward to this, getting to relearn all the bad ideas I believed about myself, being a bit more positive on a day to day basis, but the road to that scares the shit out of me. As with everything else, I can only take it one day at a time.

Thanks for letting vent, I needed to get it out. I haven't been posting much, my heart just isn't in it, and this is why. Love you guys.

Sorry you're down in it, dude... :'(

:hug:  :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lonestar on July 25, 2012, 02:34:30 PM
Thanks Deb.  :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on July 25, 2012, 03:24:34 PM
Thanks Deb.  :heart

If you'd like, you can imagine me hugging and kissing you too.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Waves on July 30, 2012, 07:16:22 PM
Hey guys.  Long time lurker, former poster on DT. net.  I can't believe I'm going to be writing half of this stuff, but I feel it's in my best interest to share what's going on with me and ask for advice.  I haven't seen a doctor or other professional as I haven't felt the need (or had the guts) to admit that I'm not well.

I'm in my mid-20's, have a somewhat stable job making a decent salary for someone with a 4 year degree.  I'm sharing an apartment with a long time friend (for almost two months) but have been living independently (albeit under my parents roof) for several years, so the transition was not a shock at all.

I feel stuck.  I have very few friends, so each day is more or less the same.  My boss is an incompetent dick who makes me want to scream at him every time he opens his mouth.  I've been in a relationship rut for a couple years, and while I imagine all my problems going away if I find one, I know I'm just deluding myself.  I realize I need to fix myself first.

For the past few months (since before I moved out), I've been thinking about death a lot.  Not suicide, mind you.  Not a feeling of wanting to end my own life, but more of a feeling of not caring should it happen.  I'll be going down the freeway thinking about the odds of survival if I get into an accident.  Wondering how long I would be in the hospital if I got sick or injured.  I'd never do anything to cause that, and I have no desire to at all.

Last night I took the last 4 Vicodin pills from an old prescription along with 4 mixed drinks and it felt wonderful.  I have a high tolerance for alcohol and Vicodin doesn't affect me very much, so I pretty much got the effects of three times the alcohol without the hangover in the morning.  I didn't do that to hurt myself, but to feel better, and it worked.

I'm not the type of guy to do things for attention, and the thought of doing anything visibly out of the ordinary like cutting (ouch), asking for help, etc. is not appealing in any way.  The thought of popping a couple pills to feel better, be functional, and without anyone knowing sounds very appealing.

I want more friends, but I'm not good at socializing.
I want a better boss, but so does everyone else.
I don't want to feel hopeless all the time.

 :sadpanda:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Progmetty on August 03, 2012, 02:02:06 PM
Welcome to DTF Waves, depressing first post but I'm glad you shared cause we have a lot in common.
I think I'm in much later and worse stages of your case though, I can't be coherent long enough to write a post that long*. My Google Chrome has 7 tabs that have been open for week for posts I started and haven't finished, some of them a a thread starter and some of them replies to other threads, in either way rapid loss of interest, laziness and severe lack of purpose strikes half way through and I decide I'll "finish it later". A much better case is for me to see posts and conversations that I can -and want- to contribute to but decide not to in fear of not following through.
I'm 30, I've moved here from Egypt cause my wife needed to stay in the U.S. for her school and work, I moved here going on 4 years now. I had 4 or 5 close friends in Egypt that I would see literally everyday and masses of casual friends that I kept in touch with and saw occasionally. Now since I moved here I've only had web based friends, none in real life at all, I hang out with my brother-in-law every now and then but he's 10 years younger than me and pretty much somewhere else mentally and usually busy with his own life and friends.
I have no solution but I thought may be sharing a common aspect of your problem makes it a bit better, it does for me when I hear problems similar to mine. Of course that particular aspect is one of at least 4 things that are equally slaying me.

* I started writing this post a few hours after yours.

For the past few months (since before I moved out), I've been thinking about death a lot.  Not suicide, mind you.  Not a feeling of wanting to end my own life, but more of a feeling of not caring should it happen.  I'll be going down the freeway thinking about the odds of survival if I get into an accident.  Wondering how long I would be in the hospital if I got sick or injured.  I'd never do anything to cause that, and I have no desire to at all.

Right there with ya word for word. I've been finding myself imagining my mutilated body or face in the accident which is taking my psychological troubles into a brand new area IMO.

I'm not the type of guy to do things for attention, and the thought of doing anything visibly out of the ordinary like cutting (ouch), asking for help, etc. is not appealing in any way.  The thought of popping a couple pills to feel better, be functional, and without anyone knowing sounds very appealing.

Also same deal here, I've been finding that to be a small victory of mine, I can honestly say I have never made anyone around me even slightly aware of my psychological problems. I wish I had some kind of pill too but I don't, I've always enjoyed being with Mary Jane but I've been expecting job interviews for the last year and since then I have not been able to relax that way. I don't drink neither so it's just me and the Melatonin I get off the shelf at the grocery store.
I know -and I think you should too- that all this will end sooner or later, things are bound to get better, it's just the matter of Oxygen lasting until the surface. Sometimes I don't believe it's gonna last me and sometimes I do.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: senecadawg2 on August 04, 2012, 11:21:42 PM
While I can't relate particularly well, I'm sorry for the both of you. At the same time, I have faith that you guys can persevere. Remember that there is always hope, and purpose, in life. The human will really can be unbreakable if you focus on being present and keeping high spirits.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on August 22, 2012, 05:26:11 PM
Been thinking a lot about my dad the past week or so. My bitch of a step mother avoids me at all costs, and my mother's drinking has gotten really bad... I really don't speak to either very much... But whatever... my closest family, that raised me... the one person in my life that was always there is buried right next to the second closest person in my life. I know I have said it all before here... but I just gotta say it again. I can't stop thinking about the day he was killed... reading it online on my local newspaper website... then getting a call from my cousin telling me that the story was about my dad... Having to tell my stepmother (who they had been living apart for a year or so at that point...)... her taking over... taking everything... being told off when I asked for several keepsake's of my dads (a hat... his leather wallet... a ring... something). Her even taking the ONE thing I thought i had... being able to pic his song at the funeral ("I know your out there" - Moody Blues)... and then being the one to shut his casket. Standing there after the funeral watching lines of people trying to comfort my stepmother and sister... the only person (besides my closest people I invited) who came up to me did so to ask me how much my dad had left her. Fast forward.... getting a call that the guy who killed him was found guilty of manslaughter... going to the sentencing... him getting off with a month of work furlough... then meeting the man face to face... resisting the urge to punch the fucker in the face... Shaking his hand... meeting his wife and young children. That shit right there causes some really fucked up emotions that I can't even convey in words. Feeling helpless... like I am a horrible person because I want their father to go away for a long time or forever. If I ran into him today, idk what I would do
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on August 22, 2012, 05:31:28 PM
:hug:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on August 22, 2012, 05:34:16 PM
It's been three years since he died and a year since the sentencing and I feel like I have gone no where emotionally... It ebbs and flows but the anger and depression is still here
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on August 22, 2012, 05:45:14 PM
Jay, all I can say is that these things sometimes take time to heal.  Sometimes all you can do is live one day at a time.  I wish I could help you more with it, but sometimes the anger and depression HELPS you to heal.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: senecadawg2 on August 23, 2012, 05:35:42 AM
That's really tough man. As Deb said, sometimes you just gotta live one day at a time, and live in a way that you know would make your father proud.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on August 23, 2012, 08:58:44 PM
I was going to post in GD chat, but didn't want to bring the mood down there.  Now that I've quickly perused the past couple pages (and especially knowing what Crimson Sunrise is going thru), I'm like 'wtf... your issues are nothing'.

But, I got no where else to turn.  No friends (dtf is pretty much all I have) to talk this over with; no family (that's part of the issue).  Haven't been posting much around these here parts lately either (lurked, but just no motivation to post much).  Just in a deep, deep funk.  Work sucks ... there's probably a 50/50 chance my job is going to be whacked next week.  Wife is going through some emotional issues... internal and external.  My father is turning into a dreamy combination of his mother (self-centered, guilt-laying individual) and father (mean, selfish, unloving).  Haven't been too close with my brother for about 13 years (since my wedding), and mother is pretty self absorbed individual.  So, those are the family issues.

Work... took a new job (actually, was 'given' a new job - didn't really have a choice) back in Jan, and everything was pretty good up until the end of May.  Then, the business really started sliding.  The group I support has been stiff-arming every effort I put forth to support them.  My boss is non-existent.  I swear, every meeting I've had scheduled with him the past 3 months has either been rescheduled (numerous times) or cancelled.  It's a forgone conclusion that we're going to be getting rid of a lot of people in a cost reduction move (probably next week), and I'm getting a whole lot of signals that my job is one of them.  And at this point, I'm so disillusioned with a lot of aspects of my group and how we support the other businesses, I think I'd welcome it.

Friends... like I said, none.  Literally, I have none that I keep in touch with anymore.  Got disconnected from all my college buddies about 7-8 years ago.  My closest of them (we were in each others' wedding party, and he was the legal guardian of my kids for a long time), I sent a message to a couple months ago on his 40th birthday, saying I missed his friendship, wondering how we got so disconnected, what could have happened that we couldn't repair... no matter, the past is the past, and I'd love to hear from him.  Nothing.  Nada.  Zilch.  Zip.  That's pretty much how it seems to go with all my friendships.  They all seem to be a one-way effort, and even when I am putting forth the effort, lot's of no-show on the other end.

Wife... she's in a pretty depressed state too.  As I said, internal and external issues at play there.  Her family creates a boat-load of stress, but my family creates a whole fleet of stress on her.

It's pretty shitty to be going thru life, just trying to minimize my misery.

Well.... end rant.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on August 23, 2012, 09:09:26 PM
I can't offer much other than a :hug: - hang in there, buddy. :)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: obscure on August 24, 2012, 06:20:57 AM
Chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad  :heart

I am so sorry hun! I feel extremely guilt now... You know I was very preoccupied with my thesis for the past month and couldn't send you even a few lines lines... Please let me make it up to you now... I don't know how much of a healing it would be but I've got a surprise for you.. You'll probably hear from me during the weekend!

Hang in there honey!!!! :hug:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on August 24, 2012, 06:39:31 AM
Hang in there Chad.  I'm with you as a grown up it's so hard to get together with my old friends.  We all try to stay connected but don't talk as much as we used too.

My job is stressing the bleep out of me.  I never get more than 6 hours of sleep and my 23 year old nephew moved in after getting out of jail and the kid has no motivation at all.  Very frustrating.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on August 24, 2012, 06:42:24 AM
Don't feel guilty Nem.  That's the last thing I want or need.  My issues are mine, and shouldn't affect anyone else in a negative way, nor are they yours to solve.  You should have been concentrating on your thesis.  And I'm very happy for you that it's done.

Thanks for the hugs ladies ... if only they were more than just an emot.   :-\

I don't know how much of a healing it would be but I've got a surprise for you.. You'll probably hear from me during the weekend!

Interview with a certain lead singer? ? ?   :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: obscure on August 24, 2012, 06:45:15 AM
Believe me dear.. I am taking steps towards that direction each and every day  :laugh:
But you'll like this one too! Promise!



Thanks for the hugs ladies ... if only they were more than just an emot.   :-\

I feel the same way!!!! Bummer!  :-\
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lonestar on August 24, 2012, 07:03:39 AM
Damn bro, had a feeling something was going on, something more than just being busy. Sometimes just putting the stuff into words helps, I know I did my little bit of venting in this thread a while back.  Hang in there man, and contact me if you need to. :tup
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: snapple on August 24, 2012, 07:26:09 AM
I feel like I can't have just one drink. I feel Like a primal urge to keep drinking after I have one beer. Ive told Courtney about this, and she's been helping. She understands that I love the taste of beer and take a lot of joy in trying new kinds. She doesn't let me have more than one. Which is nice. She knows alcoholism runs in my family. But, yeah. It's a real bizarre feeling, and it's scary.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lonestar on August 24, 2012, 07:31:34 AM
There are genetic traits, I couldn't explain the exact cycle, which causes that in people, has something to do with brain chemistry levels that when we trigger the cycle with booze, it just keeps going, supposedly it's present in about 5% of the population(including a certain chef I'm sure :lol). Keep an eye on it, it's good that you can recognize it though.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dr. DTVT on August 24, 2012, 08:03:01 AM
Jay,  I know things like money are tight, but you've gone through some real tough and rather unique issues, and it might help you to talk to a professional counselor.  They are trained in helping people deal with these issues.

Chad, check your PMs 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: chknptpie on August 24, 2012, 12:09:29 PM
Hey-yo chad! You have 2 friends in AZ, just so you know!  :metal
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on August 24, 2012, 12:12:57 PM
Jay,  I know things like money are tight, but you've gone through some real tough and rather unique issues, and it might help you to talk to a professional counselor.  They are trained in helping people deal with these issues.

Jay, the good Doc is right - it may be worth your while to look into it, at the very least.

Thanks for the hugs ladies ... if only they were more than just an emot.   :-\

Know that feeling all too well, bro. :-\
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on August 29, 2012, 03:47:05 PM
Work today is rather... challenging, to say the least.  I'm either going to rip all of my hair out or go on a serious bender. :-\
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on September 04, 2012, 07:12:06 PM
*in b4 a jingle bump* :P
 
So, I'm going to be extra stressed until Second Banana is back on 9/19 - I told my boss that I'd act for her since no one else wanted to do it AND since it's over 2 weeks I'll get a temporary pay increase.
 
The extra $$ will probably not be worth it though. :|
 
Edit:  It's not July anymore, doofus. :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on September 04, 2012, 11:01:29 PM
Yeah ... You beat me. I'm on a quick layover in LA on my way to Phoenix. Much more to type, but the good(??) news is I still have a job ... Just not totally sure what it entails. 2 days of planning will start to flush it out.

More later, as I'm not in any better a place than I was two weeks ago.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on September 05, 2012, 02:58:05 AM
 :( :hug:

At least you've still got your job, but your post leads me to believe that it's a "for now" type of dealio.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: chknptpie on September 05, 2012, 11:00:57 AM
Jingle in Phx? For how long?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on September 05, 2012, 12:36:42 PM
Until Friday morning.  I was going to reach out to you Tricia, but my boss scheduled dinner meetings both nights, so I have no free time.  Next time I'm here, I promise.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: chknptpie on September 05, 2012, 01:10:09 PM
awwww shucks
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Elite on September 05, 2012, 02:05:36 PM
I'm just going to use this thread to vent some stuff, because I don't think it's worth its own thread. I don't really care if people wouldn't read this, but I'd appreciate it if you did. I've been cropping up random feelings of shit for the past couple of months. It's how I function; things don't affect me really, but after a couple of months I break down sometimes. I haven't yet, but I can feel it getting near. I used to think I was a manic depressive because of this when I was a little longer, which wasn't even too far-fetched since both my uncle and grandfather were. Oh, they were both alcoholics as well. My stepfather is as well, or at least he has an alcohol-problem and it's screwing up my mother's and sister's relationship with him. I don't really see lots of it, because I don't live there anymore, but every once in a while I'm confronted with the crap, even though he doesn't live with my mother anymore.

I failed my driving exam four times and should have had the fucking license almost 1.5 years ago, but I still don't have it. I have to rely on other people with cars. My guitar amp keeps breaking down and I'm pretty much always out of money. I can't really get out of my words, but last night I was having a night out with people I know from my study (about 15-25 of them) and I didn't feel like I actually fit in with them. I've always had this, never really fitting in with groups of people. I'm not a huge sociable person, but I can get around with many people, I'm not much of a group-person. The most annoying part of this is that I'm going to be the treasurer of my study-association and I don't really have that many friends at my study. So I was feeling out of place for most of the evening until somehow the night turned out well, but I had to go, because a friend of mine was giving his farewell party (he's going to Spain for half a year). The party there I had the exact same feeling as earlier on the night, so I left prematurely, wishing him a nice stay and such, but I didn't really come home satisfied.

Then I have no clue what I'm going to do later. I'm studying musicology, playing guitar here and there, a bit of work at a callcenter and doing random stuff with friends, but nothing really focused. I always thought I wanted to be a guitar player and I still do, but I give it way too little time. Last year I spent fucking most of time trying to get a band running and we came far, but everything fell apart because our drummer was a jerk, so that's not really going anywhere either. And then today I heard I'm most likely going to get fired before the end of the year. FUCK, there goes my income. I'm going to be really busy next year, with my study, setting up a band again and being the treasurer of my study-association and I need the job to have a steady income.

So; in short, I feel out of place, things are going wrong, I don't have many real friends, I have no clue what the hell I'm doing with my life and I'm going to get fired soon. The school year is starting next year and I'm in no prepared for all the busy stuff that's coming.

Sorry for the huge-ass wall of text. I suppose it doesn't really make sense, this stream-of-consciousness-post, but I just wanted to vent the whole thing.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfandwolfandwolf on September 05, 2012, 04:35:40 PM
This might sound really lame, but I just want to let you guys though that I keep up with this thread and pray for you guys who post some of the stuff you deal with.  If you don't believe in prayer or any higher power, then just know simply that I care for you guys.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on September 05, 2012, 09:44:31 PM
Wolf... thanks for the thoughts.  It's nice to know others are thinking good thoughts for you (ie, me... and others).

Rich... damn man.  I think I know what you're feeling.  Wish I had some words of immense wisdom to make it all make sense, but I don't.

Deb... no, I have a job and it's secure - at least until the company decides that *this* strategy isn't working out.  That's part of the problem.  The area I work in is focused on activities that are long-term and strategic.  The benefits we're working on won't pay off for a long time ... 12+ months.  So, as long as the business has the patience and wherewithal to see it through, it will eventually pay off.  Our group President says all the right things that we're committed to this, and need to make it work, but then every 8-12 months, shit hits the fan and we have to shuffle the deck on our structure.  We went through a 3% reduction in people yesterday, which sucks... and one of my team-mates who I really got along well with got left on the outs.  He got screwed, and it pisses me off.

Not sure if I'm making much sense to anyone here, but that's what's going on with work.

No change in friends or family.  Some parts of my week off last week were really nice; some parts sucked monkey balls.  Don't want to really go into details here.

Tricia...  I'm the kind of person that lives by the mantra of 'keep your promises', so the next time I'm in town... I'm buying you and Adam dinner if you're free.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on September 05, 2012, 10:28:07 PM
:hug: s Rich, wolves, and Mister jingle
 
Deb... no, I have a job and it's secure - at least until the company decides that *this* strategy isn't working out.  That's part of the problem.  The area I work in is focused on activities that are long-term and strategic.  The benefits we're working on won't pay off for a long time ... 12+ months.  So, as long as the business has the patience and wherewithal to see it through, it will eventually pay off.  Our group President says all the right things that we're committed to this, and need to make it work, but then every 8-12 months, shit hits the fan and we have to shuffle the deck on our structure.  We went through a 3% reduction in people yesterday, which sucks... and one of my team-mates who I really got along well with got left on the outs.  He got screwed, and it pisses me off.

Not sure if I'm making much sense to anyone here, but that's what's going on with work.

No worries, I understood where you were coming from.  That really sucks too, that your job is so tied to what COULD happen down the road but yet you're dealing with the bottom line now.  I'd be so stressed out with that kind of ambiguity.  You have my sincerest sympathies and all of the positive vibes I can muster, mister. :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dr. DTVT on September 05, 2012, 10:38:49 PM
This is sort of directed at Elite, but I think it will apply to most of the younger crowd as well.  I think it's well known that I pretty much have my shit together as a person, and most people would consider me very successful in life.  I can honestly say that between the ages of 16 and 26 or so, you will go through phases where you will have your act together, you'll know where you're going in life, and everything is looking rosy; and you will go through phases where you feel like you're spinning tires, don't know where life is going to take you, and feel like you are at the mercy of the fates.  It's all about finding yourself, and defining yourself, and learning to roll with punches and to keep getting up.  I'm not saying that to trivialize what you are going through, but to remind you that you're not the only person who has questioned their own direction and self worth.  Knowing what obstacles lie in your path is the first step to overcoming them.  Not living in a world of self-denial is NOT a bad thing for the most part.  Be honest in your self-assessment, which it seems you are doing, and take steps to remedy them.  Those are things you can control.  Grab life by the balls and squeeze.

As for the shit you can't control, like your stepfather issue...that's just something you have to try to only deal with when you have to.  My parents started the divorce process when I was in college, and it was really hard on my mom, and my sister would lash out at everyone and looked like she was on the verge of becoming a dropout teenage mom.  When you are separated by distance the only thing you can really do is make more of an effort to let them know you still love and care for them, while at the same time try to not let that negative influence infiltrate your life.  If you try giving advice, you'll get the "you're not here, you don't understand" treatment, so don't go there unless it is a matter of safety (stepfather becomes violent).  Everyone has to play out their own life, as you are finding out it can be challenging enough just trying to script your own life.  Which is why I've avoided telling you to do specific things, and stuck to generalities.


and Chad, you know how to reach me if you want/need to.  Cell phone is always a better bet than the office phone.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Fiery Winds on September 06, 2012, 12:51:30 AM
I have to say goodbye to my best friend tomorrow.  :sadpanda:  She's leaving for Scotland to attend grad school and won't be back for more than a year (minimum).  It's really hitting me right now.   :'(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on September 06, 2012, 01:33:57 AM
:hug:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Elite on September 06, 2012, 03:10:42 AM
Thanks Doc, that helped.
I suppose it's a part of growing up as well. There's times that I feel like I really suck at life and there's times when everything is going great and I guess it's a matter of finding out where I'm at at this moment and figure out what I'm going to do.

:tup
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: chknptpie on September 06, 2012, 07:39:50 AM
Tricia...  I'm the kind of person that lives by the mantra of 'keep your promises', so the next time I'm in town... I'm buying you and Adam dinner if you're free.

Ha, you dont have to buy us dinner! What industry do you work in? I can't remember you telling me before.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MoraWintersoul on September 06, 2012, 07:44:21 AM
I lurk here occasionally and I feel quite inspired by both Elite's post (since we're in a similar, IhavenoideawhatI'mdoing place, and it's comforting to know you're not the only one) and Dr's reply. This forum is a happy place.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on September 06, 2012, 07:47:44 AM
and Chad, you know how to reach me if you want/need to.  Cell phone is always a better bet than the office phone.

Thanks man.  Might take you up on it tonight.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wkiml on September 10, 2012, 09:19:08 AM
As some of you know I lost my best friend/ex-wife (I know those 2 are normally seen together) 5 months ago to cancer. I am a single father of 3 teenage boys, I guess with all the chaos after her passing and trying to be as stable as I could for the boys the entire grief/bereavement process never kicked in . Now that things have settled down and the kids are back too school I have been in a major funk (depressed/on edge/ my emotions are all over the fuckin place)

Anyone know of any on-line support groups ?

My job and new role of single parent really doesn't leave me any time for face to face counseling or therapy groups

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: eric42434224 on September 10, 2012, 09:42:36 AM
As some of you know I lost my best friend/ex-wife (I know those 2 are normally seen together) 5 months ago to cancer. I am a single father of 3 teenage boys, I guess with all the chaos after her passing and trying to be as stable as I could for the boys the entire grief/bereavement process never kicked in . Now that things have settled down and the kids are back too school I have been in a major funk (depressed/on edge/ my emotions are all over the fuckin place)

Anyone know of any on-line support groups ?

My job and new role of single parent really doesn't leave me any time for face to face counseling or therapy groups

I know you feel that you dont have the time, but I will still suggest that you still try to get face to face counseling.  There is no substitute and it is an investment in your future mental health, which is an investment in your kids mental health.
I hope you can find a way to do it, and wether you can or cant, I wish you get well soon.
The black pit of depression, as someone who experienced it before...and still do to lesser degrees on occasion, is not something I would wish on my worst enemy.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wkiml on September 10, 2012, 11:10:59 AM
As some of you know I lost my best friend/ex-wife (I know those 2 are normally seen together) 5 months ago to cancer. I am a single father of 3 teenage boys, I guess with all the chaos after her passing and trying to be as stable as I could for the boys the entire grief/bereavement process never kicked in . Now that things have settled down and the kids are back too school I have been in a major funk (depressed/on edge/ my emotions are all over the fuckin place)

Anyone know of any on-line support groups ?

My job and new role of single parent really doesn't leave me any time for face to face counseling or therapy groups

I know you feel that you dont have the time, but I will still suggest that you still try to get face to face counseling.  There is no substitute and it is an investment in your future mental health, which is an investment in your kids mental health.
I hope you can find a way to do it, and wether you can or cant, I wish you get well soon.
The black pit of depression, as someone who experienced it before...and still do to lesser degrees on occasion, is not something I would wish on my worst enemy.


I know personally how well face to face and therapy groups work as I am a recovering alcoholic and without my therapy/AA I would probabaly no longer be alive

Problem is I am up at 4am for work and dont get home until 7:30-8:00 PM at that point its make sure the kids are doing okay all school work is completed etc....than turn into bed to start the whole process over again

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on September 10, 2012, 10:13:36 PM
Hang in there, wkiml :hug:
 
I just found out that a friend was recently diagnosed with cancer.  Talk about a punch to the gut. :(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on September 11, 2012, 05:37:43 AM
As some of you know I lost my best friend/ex-wife (I know those 2 are normally seen together) 5 months ago to cancer. I am a single father of 3 teenage boys, I guess with all the chaos after her passing and trying to be as stable as I could for the boys the entire grief/bereavement process never kicked in . Now that things have settled down and the kids are back too school I have been in a major funk (depressed/on edge/ my emotions are all over the fuckin place)

Anyone know of any on-line support groups ?

My job and new role of single parent really doesn't leave me any time for face to face counseling or therapy groups

Really sorry to hear it's catching up with you Bill.  I've been wondering about the online support groups myself.  Haven't looked very hard, but if I find anything, I'll let ya know.

Deb...  :'( :angry:  That fuckin sucks.  Don't know what to say, as I've been blessed not to have cancer touch me that much (father had a couple of not-so-serious bouts, and is cancer free). 

:hug:  Wish I could actually be there for you... all of you actually.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on September 11, 2012, 12:25:06 PM
Deb...  :'( :angry:  That fuckin sucks.  Don't know what to say, as I've been blessed not to have cancer touch me that much (father had a couple of not-so-serious bouts, and is cancer free). 

What really sucks is that she is starting to really pull her life together for herself and her kids.  The hope is that they've caught it in time (she's 38), but her diagnosis isn't all that great (but it's not completely BAD either).  Cancer can kiss my fucking ass, is all - I've lost family members and friends to it, it can eat a ginormous bag of dicks.

Thanks for the sympathy though - spare some good thoughts/positive healing energy for her.

:hug:  Wish I could actually be there for you... all of you actually.

That goes both ways, buddy. :hug:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on September 15, 2012, 02:29:17 PM
My LSAT score is basically stuck at a 160. In order for me to get into what were going to be my safety schools, I need a 161 at least. To get into the places I really wanted, I need a 164 or 167. I just can't get it for some reason.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: snapple on September 15, 2012, 05:37:22 PM
starting to feel like i can't do the things i've set out to do.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on September 15, 2012, 06:15:02 PM
My LSAT score is basically stuck at a 160. In order for me to get into what were going to be my safety schools, I need a 161 at least. To get into the places I really wanted, I need a 164 or 167. I just can't get it for some reason.

I don't know anything about LSAT scores, but how big of a difference is 160 from 161 or a 164/7?




Also, (unrelated to Shlomi Kent) I have been immensely depressed for a while now. I have no job, and can't find one that wouldn't make me more depressed (such as working at a gas station or something) and really can't do anything here in St. Louis. Wish I could move already.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfandwolfandwolf on September 15, 2012, 07:10:28 PM
starting to feel like i can't do the things i've set out to do.
Elaborate?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on September 15, 2012, 07:11:38 PM
starting to feel like i can't do the things i've set out to do.

You sure she's not just taking the pill behind your back?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on September 15, 2012, 09:26:12 PM
My LSAT score is basically stuck at a 160. In order for me to get into what were going to be my safety schools, I need a 161 at least. To get into the places I really wanted, I need a 164 or 167. I just can't get it for some reason.

I don't know anything about LSAT scores, but how big of a difference is 160 from 161 or a 164/7?

From a 160 to a 164 is 6 points minimum. From a 160 to a 167 is at least 13. It means in at least one of the four sections, which are 25-27 questions long, I would have to get no wrong answers.

Adami, do you have a degree?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on September 15, 2012, 09:56:36 PM
So this weekend, I experienced one of the most awkward and infuriating nights of my life. (tl;dr at bottom, for those who don't care to read a novel)

I live in Taiwan, and speak borderline no Chinese. I have two main co-workers. #1 is a slightly older guy who's been here five years and has a decent grasp of Chinese. He's getting married in a few months. #2 has been here about a week or two. Also speaks no Chinese.

So it's Friday night, work's over, and at #1's request, we accompany him and his gf to a Japanese karaoke place. Everyone gets pretty drunk.

As the night goes on, and more and more people depart, this girl starts giving all kinds of signals she likes me. She speaks no English, but she brings me hot towels to wipe my hands (there's finger food), blows me kisses, pulls me up to dance a few times. She's hot, I'm drunk, and my co-workers are egging me on, so I start watching her a bit more closely. I see that The Girl, whenever she's not focussing her attention on me, is laying herself on every other guy in the place, hard. Her friends that are there have hooked up, and she doesn't want to go home alone. She's fishing to get taken home by anyone. I am occasionally that potential anyone.

Click. I'm no longer interested. At all. During her advances, I try to make this clear. But I’m about to enter a shitstorm. All of my friends and her friends have hooked up, and will be going home happy, and they see her floundering, so they start trying to encourage me.

The Girl, in her latest attempt at scavenging something from this night, plonks herself straight in my lap. Smooth, you haven't spoken a word to me, you can't speak a word to me, this ship has sailed, and so you go to Plan B and just sit on my dick. I use getting up to pee as an excuse to go. When I get back, Co-Worker #1 is talking to the girl, and telling her I like her, he works with me, I'm a great guy, etc. This is bad. When #1's drunk, he will do anything to set you up with a girl. Even if you don't want it, and you make it as clear as day. I tell him to stop, but there's no telling him.

I look around me, I see that everyone in this room is urging this terrible situation on, and I slowly start becoming drunkenly angry with all of them. I consider leaving, but we shared a taxi there and I figured it'd be rude to not pitch in on a taxi back,. Plus, Co-Worker #2 lives in the same building as me and doesn't know his way home.

#1 is now getting pissed off at my lack of enthusiasm. Finally, he orders me to get my phone out, and starts asking for her number, straight out. No-one is dancing or singing anymore, everyone is watching, willing this to happen. The awkward storm has escalated to Category 5. I consider just leaving again, but there’s talk of moving on to another bar. So I think, fuck it, I'll take down her number, we'll move to the next bar, I'll sit at the bar and ignore her, I'll delete the number. I pull out my phone. It takes us about a minute to get three digits in. The Girl, having never found an easy fuck so difficult, has become hesitant herself. So I flip my phone shut, tell them to forget it, and storm downstairs to wait for us to move on to the next bar (I don’t know how to get there).

At this point, I'm seething, but I don't want to make a scene. The rest of them come downstairs. There’s now only six of us left; Co-Worker #1 and his gf, #2 and his chosen one, The Girl, and me. The Girl now has a clear look of despair on her face. She's terrified she may not get some tonight. We set off. It starts to rain, a decent, tropical rain. I don't have an umbrella. She does. She pops it open, throws it in my hand, and grabs me by the arm. I’m trapped. I carry the umbrella. Every time she tries to lean on me, I move her away. Every time she tries to grab my hand, I shrug it off. We get to the other bar, I throw the umbrella back in her hand, walk inside, and sit at the far side of the bar to the rest of the group.

Bar's closed, so I sit there sipping water, trying to calm down. I look down the other end of the bar, and she's on the verge of crying, and everyone's giving me dirty looks. And now I'm furious. I'm thinking, if I was the sort of guy who would throw myself at a girl like that - which I'm not - and I was rejected, and I sulked about it, everyone would laugh in my face, especially if I was clearly just after some weekend snatch. But you, you're a fucking woman, so you spill some tears and you're obviously the victim here. But go ahead, milk that sympathy, you sorry little strumpet.

And now the ultimate irony: they leave the bar without me. I've stayed for the last hour, hour and a half out of obligation to chip in on a taxi and help the new guy find his way home, and they leave me there. I turn to the barman, who has noticed, and suddenly seems like the first decent person I’ve encountered this night, and we have a laugh about it. He orders me a taxi, and I go home.

tl;dr: Went out for karaoke, was caught in the perfect storm with the keenest harlot on the premises and her entourage, and, in my lack of interest, came out the villain in everyone's eyes.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dr. DTVT on September 15, 2012, 09:58:18 PM
@Super Dude - What level are your "safety schools"?  Based on a quick internet search, 160 is still well above normal, possibly 1 standard deviation.  It's not like your hopes and dreams are shattered.  One of the really shitty things that I'm going to encounter in a few years when I start getting students to advise is I'm going to have some pre-med majors that I'm going to have to have an unpleasant talk to because they have unreasonable expectations for themselves based on their current accomplishments.  If you know specifically what kind of law you want to do, there are still probably ways to get there even if it means going to a school that isn't exactly one of your top choices.  You might have to beat down doors to get a specific internship, engage in some kind of community advocacy, or maybe even take a job clerking for a year to get some experience before taking the test again.  While doing that though, I think you should take a long, hard look in the mirror and ask yourself if you can honestly do better.  It's a shitty assessment, but we are all limited.  Part way through my graduate career, I recognized that I wasn't going to be able to compete for top level entry jobs.  I had to make peace with that.  I can't tell you whether or not you've topped out, but your professors probably can.  They can also probably tell you what you can or need to do get what you want right now.  But life is all about changing your expectations, there are lots of things that at some earlier point in my life I wanted that I never got or have had to lower my expectations.  I'm not trying to be negative with you because I honestly don't know you outside of DTF, I'm just asking you to make an honest assessment of yourself (privately).  Again, 160 isn't career suicide, its a well above average score.

@Adami - How close are you to finishing up your schooling?  Everyone is looking for work, no one is going to begrudge you for taking any job you can find.  Anything that keeps the bills paid is a good job, and most jobs are important to a functioning society.  Slingin' shushies at the quiky mart is a hell of a lot better than panhandling.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on September 15, 2012, 10:45:44 PM
@ RoboJew and Dr. Mike TV, I have a Masters degree in Clinical Psychology.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dr. DTVT on September 15, 2012, 11:14:03 PM
Fluffy, it's not always easy to do the right thing, especially in the face of peer pressure.  You have to live your decisions, not others putting pressure on you; and your choice to not put yourself in a situation you may come to regret later is commendable.

Although you could have gotten her number and told her there was an entire forum of foreigners willing to boink her brains out  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on September 16, 2012, 03:01:10 AM
They'd have to get to Taiwan first. Or be willing to pay for her plane ticket.

I just found it bizarre that no-one in the room seemed to be able to see I wasn't interested until I completely separated myself from them and was essentially glaring at them from across the bar, while she was almost in tears. Or if they did, they didn't say anything.

I will say that it was the first time I did karaoke, and I enjoyed that part of the evening a LOT more than I expected.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on September 16, 2012, 03:48:37 AM
My work situation is making me feel so depressed lately.  Every morning I am waking up and rolling over dreading the day ahead.  I just don't care anymore, I'll wake up late at 7:30 and need to be at work at 8, yet I just roll over and comtemplate calling in sick, and I've never ever done that. My weekend has been disrupted from the constant stress of work, this sucks.  :(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on September 16, 2012, 06:59:21 AM
First of all, lemme say to Fluff, wow, that's pretty unbelievable. Like what the actual fuck (this is also partially why I'm not a "go drinking with the guys" kinda guy).

@Super Dude - What level are your "safety schools"?  Based on a quick internet search, 160 is still well above normal, possibly 1 standard deviation.  It's not like your hopes and dreams are shattered.  One of the really shitty things that I'm going to encounter in a few years when I start getting students to advise is I'm going to have some pre-med majors that I'm going to have to have an unpleasant talk to because they have unreasonable expectations for themselves based on their current accomplishments.  If you know specifically what kind of law you want to do, there are still probably ways to get there even if it means going to a school that isn't exactly one of your top choices.  You might have to beat down doors to get a specific internship, engage in some kind of community advocacy, or maybe even take a job clerking for a year to get some experience before taking the test again.  While doing that though, I think you should take a long, hard look in the mirror and ask yourself if you can honestly do better.  It's a shitty assessment, but we are all limited.  Part way through my graduate career, I recognized that I wasn't going to be able to compete for top level entry jobs.  I had to make peace with that.  I can't tell you whether or not you've topped out, but your professors probably can.  They can also probably tell you what you can or need to do get what you want right now.  But life is all about changing your expectations, there are lots of things that at some earlier point in my life I wanted that I never got or have had to lower my expectations.  I'm not trying to be negative with you because I honestly don't know you outside of DTF, I'm just asking you to make an honest assessment of yourself (privately).  Again, 160 isn't career suicide, its a well above average score.

@Adami - How close are you to finishing up your schooling?  Everyone is looking for work, no one is going to begrudge you for taking any job you can find.  Anything that keeps the bills paid is a good job, and most jobs are important to a functioning society.  Slingin' shushies at the quiky mart is a hell of a lot better than panhandling.

To this, I know I have a lot of good things going for me: I'm currently working for the biggest law firm in the state in a position that they normally reserve for first-year law students, I went to the #23 school in the country for undergrad, I have recommendations from Harvard and MIT, I know I'm pretty much whining for nothing. The problem is if my LSAT score isn't up to snuff, admissions boards aren't even gonna look at that stuff. Having numbers that don't quite fit are just what they need to automatically write me off, and I've been rejected plenty of times because I wasn't even given a chance, which is why I find this situation so frustrating. It was hard enough getting a job earlier this summer, because employers would automatically write me off based on what they saw on paper. The Bernsteins gave me a chance because I sent them a writing sample and got to speak with the president of the company personally in a chance encounter (I literally bumped into the guy outta the blue). Luck, basically.

I'm frustrated by this because although I do have really good qualifications beyond my GPA and LSAT scores, admissions boards have every reason just to look at the numbers and reject me off-handedly. It's depressing because it's like they won't even give me a chance for something so pointless, that isn't even a good indicator of law school success.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: snapple on September 16, 2012, 08:20:06 AM
starting to feel like i can't do the things i've set out to do.
Elaborate?

i have some habits that i need to break in order to do the things i want to do in life.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dr. DTVT on September 16, 2012, 10:38:18 AM
starting to feel like i can't do the things i've set out to do.
Elaborate?

i have some habits that i need to break in order to do the things i want to do in life.

Quit masterbating and picking your nose in public.

@ Super Dude - There has to be some kind of standardized metric by which everyone is measured, and the LSAT is the chosen tool.  A school might publish their average LSAT score, but that just means that over half the students they accepted scored that or under that.  It's not the cut off.  You may have to go to a lesser law school, but again that doesn't mean you can't practice the kind of law you want to, you'll just have to work harder to get there.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on September 16, 2012, 12:18:54 PM
Oh, yeah, I mean the metric I'm going off of is the schools' 25th percentile.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Jarlaxle on September 16, 2012, 05:50:30 PM
For the last 3 and a half years I have been dating the best girl in the world. I am 21, and could definitely see myself spending the rest of my life with her. She's pretty, funny, easy going, has very similar tastes to me, and quite simply, she is one of the few things that makes me happy, and she usually doesn't even have to try. These three and half years have been the best of my life.

When I was younger, I used to be a leader and the guy that stood out in crowds because I was talkative and funny, but just a genuinely nice person. During our time together I realized that that isn't me, because I have developed depression and extreme anxiety. This girl just manages to keep me postive and upbeat about everything, and has really inspired me to take my life into my own hands and do with it what I want.

Fast forward to this summer. My girlfriend went away to Halifax as part of the Canadian Naval Reserves. She was gone two months, and while I knew it would be difficult not seeing her and hardly talking to her over that time, I didn't think that there was anything that could come between us. The first month that she was gone was good, I kept myself busy and didn't miss her as much as I thought, but the last 2 or 3 weeks that she was there were unbearable. I missed her so much, and she started to become cold with me. She wasn't acting like her normal self or treating me in a manner that I expect to be treated after being together for so long. Whenever I asked her what was wrong she would always say that its just a different life where she was, and it was hard to worry about things back home while she was so busy, and I knew she was tired and everything, so I thought her behavior was due to that.

She has been home for a little over 2 weeks now, and her behavior never changed. She doesn't treat me like a boyfriend, while I tried so hard to make her happy and be a good friend to her in an attempt to make her feel like she was home. I started to think something was wrong, and a couple days ago I asked her if she still had feelings for me and if she wanted to try to make our relationship work, to which she said she wasn't sure because she felt like she has changed a lot and she just asked for time and space to try and figure everything out, which I agreed to.

So last night I went to her house because we were just going to talk to see where we were at. Eventually, after basically prying it out of her, she told me that she cheated on me once with a friend of hers while she was gone. I didn't know how to react, and while I was very angry and upset and disappointed, I could not make myself just walk away from her because she means so much to me. We talked for a couple more hours, I was just trying to get a feel for what she did and how she felt about it, when I realised I couldn't do it anymore. I told her I was breaking up with her because we both need time to think about everything and see what we want to do, and I told her if it came to it and I felt like I could be with her again, we could maybe try and work things out in the future.

I'm so upset and hurt right now, I cannot believe that she would do something like that to me. My whole life revolved around her, and now I feel so worthless. And I'm worried about myself too. Last year my brother committed suicide, and I promised myself that I would never do that, but I never imagined I would feel like this. I don't know what to do.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wkiml on September 20, 2012, 08:28:55 AM
Don't know where to begin .....as most of you are familair with my situation I won't go into the back story...Went to the dentist on Tuesday for a filling...while hes working on my teeth He stops and asks "do you smoke?" I replied yes, he continued to finish what he was doing and at the end he say's " I don't want you losing any sleep over this, but I want you to see an oral surgeon as soon as you can? " I look at him stupified and asked why.  He replied "I noticed some white leisons on the back of your mouth and throat I want you to get them checked to make sure its not cancer"  I almost dropped right there. I lost my ex-wife and my kids lost their mom to cancer 5 months ago and there are still alot of healing going on in that aspect. I have my appointment scheduled for Tuesday and have no idea what I will tell the kids if it does turn up positive. I am a wreck right now ( the kids don't know and I don't want to scare them until I know the results for sure) I am trying to remain strong . I know God (lets not change this into a PR discussion please) doesn't give us more than we can handle but I don't know how much more I can take .
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lonestar on September 20, 2012, 08:45:46 AM
Damn Bill, you're in my thoughts. Hopefully it turns out to be nothing.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on September 20, 2012, 01:14:41 PM
Oh Jesus, dude.... hopefully it's nothing serious.
*beaming you good vibes and such*
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cyclopssss on September 25, 2012, 06:16:49 AM
Damn man, can't begin to tell you how frightened I would be. Hang in there ok?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wkiml on September 25, 2012, 11:27:07 AM
Met the oral surgeon today, he took a look and doesnt believe it to be cancer, most like a callous inside my mouth, from years of drinking and smoking.

They did a biopsy anyway to be safe should know in a day or 2
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on September 25, 2012, 11:29:37 AM
Met the oral surgeon today, he took a look and doesnt believe it to be cancer, most like a callous inside my mouth, from years of drinking and smoking.

They did a biopsy anyway to be safe should know in a day or 2

Do you plan to quit drinking and smoking?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wkiml on September 26, 2012, 05:56:48 AM
Adami ...I've been drug free for 18 years alcohol free for 3 years....smoking is my only vice, but yes intend to quit that as well
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on September 26, 2012, 09:32:07 AM
Adami ...I've been drug free for 18 years alcohol free for 3 years....smoking is my only vice, but yes intend to quit that as well


Congrats on the first two, good luck on the third thing.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on September 29, 2012, 02:34:03 PM
With only a week to go until the real thing, my LSAT practice test score has not only not increased, it's gone down.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on September 29, 2012, 10:34:52 PM
With only a week to go until the real thing, my LSAT practice test score has not only not increased, it's gone down.

.............at least something is going down on you.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ħ on September 30, 2012, 12:45:38 AM
If you don't do well on the LSAT, it's not the end of the world. Bright side - you can take it next year and get some job experience as well to help you with law school applications.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on September 30, 2012, 05:40:56 AM
I can't take it next year. I only have this one and the December test and that's it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ħ on September 30, 2012, 08:57:09 PM
Why can't you just take it again if you don't do well?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on October 01, 2012, 07:31:47 AM
The more times you take it, even if you get a higher score, the worse of a reflection it is on the application. As some admissions board members explained at a law board I attended, by round three they assume you got a good score because you've done the test so many times, not because you actually improved.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: chknptpie on October 01, 2012, 09:06:00 AM
So I've been having work done on my teeth since June... 13 cavities filled and now wisdom teeth extracted. It does serve me right for not going to a dentist for so long. It's really draining on me right now. I haven't felt normal or had a painless mouth day in at least a month. The past two weeks have been incredibly hard. When do I go back to normal and get to eat something without being in pain? When can I have a restful night without having to wake up and take pain meds or get an ice pack? I just want to be normal again!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ħ on October 01, 2012, 12:15:27 PM
The more times you take it, even if you get a higher score, the worse of a reflection it is on the application. As some admissions board members explained at a law board I attended, by round three they assume you got a good score because you've done the test so many times, not because you actually improved.
Do you have to tell them you took the test before?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on October 01, 2012, 12:16:27 PM
I don't want to get into too much detail, so I'll just say that I'm VERY angry.  So much so that I have to work to keep it at bay.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Fiery Winds on October 01, 2012, 12:20:07 PM
The more times you take it, even if you get a higher score, the worse of a reflection it is on the application. As some admissions board members explained at a law board I attended, by round three they assume you got a good score because you've done the test so many times, not because you actually improved.
Do you have to tell them you took the test before?

When you sign up for these kinds of tests, you choose which schools you want your results forwarded to.  I also believe that all future test results contain your past scores as well, if you want to only send a hard copy of your latest result.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on October 01, 2012, 12:35:29 PM
Yeah, law school applications primarily are done through the Law School Admission Council, who automatically receive all of your tests with scores and writing samples. I've seen a sample application before, and it's automatically printed on your application in the bottom left corner of your complete transcript, as from an electronic form. So you couldn't really conceal past attempts even if you wanted to.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ħ on October 01, 2012, 12:43:57 PM
That's silly that they care about previous attempts though. All that should really matter is your most recent attempt, IMO, because that's the best representation of where you're at.

Anyway you should just change your name or something. Beat the system.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on October 01, 2012, 01:05:17 PM
The reason they do that is so you can keep sending in results if you're not happy with your first attempt. And to catch fraud. But yeah.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dr. DTVT on October 01, 2012, 03:00:56 PM
So I've been having work done on my teeth since June... 13 cavities filled and now wisdom teeth extracted. It does serve me right for not going to a dentist for so long. It's really draining on me right now. I haven't felt normal or had a painless mouth day in at least a month. The past two weeks have been incredibly hard. When do I go back to normal and get to eat something without being in pain? When can I have a restful night without having to wake up and take pain meds or get an ice pack? I just want to be normal again!

Part of your problem with pain might not be how well you took care of your teeth, but that you're just a tiny person to begin with, everything is kind of cramped.  I didn't have to take any pain medication when I had my wisdom teeth removed, and my sister only needed some the day she had them removed.  We're both tall and bigger framed people than you, and a girl I went to HS with that is also a tiny thing like yourself has had all kinds of complications when she's had dental work done.  Not saying that 4 people is a good sample size, but it also kind of makes sense.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on October 10, 2012, 07:22:59 PM
So... I have a good coworker friend who used to be on night/swing shift with me (he's been on days for several years) who I've worked with since the late 1990s.  Extremely witty/funny bloke.  Well... I had a rather unsettling encounter with him last week that caused me to talk to a mutual coworker friend about it earlier today - she told me that what I witnessed was not an isolated incident, as I'd originally thought.
 
Long story short, he's not who he used to be.  Could be early onset dementia/Alzheimers.  According to the mutual friend, he's been losing his mental faculties/capability for about a year and a half to two years.  He's apparently also been being very stubborn/hostile if anyone mentions getting this checked out medically.
 
It's just extremely sad that the cool gent I once knew isn't "there" anymore. :'(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on October 10, 2012, 08:43:47 PM
That sucks Deb.  Worse still when it's a parent (as I'm going through).
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Elite on October 10, 2012, 09:06:07 PM
I'm fucking pissed off at the moment, because of multiple things that have piled up over a larger amount of time. It's got to do with relationships and assholes interfering. I'm just feeling worthless at the moment.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on October 10, 2012, 11:00:45 PM
That sucks Deb.  Worse still when it's a parent (as I'm going through).

"Losing" a parent like that has to be one of the most difficult things I can think of.  My thoughts/good vibes are with ya, bud. :heart
 
Other Rich - :hug:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cyclopssss on October 11, 2012, 01:13:56 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s480x480/374130_436970766339346_1585944878_n.jpg)

Yeah, they still excist.....
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Elite on October 27, 2012, 10:49:22 PM
Bumping this thread because f*ck, some people should stick to their own lives and not interfere with mine. I know perfectly well what I'm doing, whatever the hell it is and I make damn sure I let the right people know my own secrets and I know very well what people do and don't know about me. Stop f*cking making shit up about me that you don't know anything about. I feel like punching a certain person in the face at the moment and I'm not like this usually, although this may seem the case occasionally. I'm a very pacifistic person, but I'm very angry right now. Things are screwed up beyond my control and I'm gonna make sure this person knows what he's done.

/rant

(the joy of being a student I suppose, fuck)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cyclopssss on October 29, 2012, 08:16:53 AM
Well, I guess I got some confirmation today of some depressing news....per january first next year, I'll be out of a job.
I guess I already knew it was coming, but there was a minicule chance my contract would get prolongued...or however you say that.

Oh well, it was nice while it lasted....next!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MoraWintersoul on October 29, 2012, 08:21:05 AM
I'm feeling similar to Elite *hugs Elite* what's ridiculous is that I'm so patient and I always try to bring out the best side of people and if you're a jerk of such magnitude that you manage to anger ME, sorry to break it to you but I think everyone else in your life must hate you as well.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on October 29, 2012, 12:13:25 PM
Well, I guess I got some confirmation today of some depressing news....per january first next year, I'll be out of a job.
I guess I already knew it was coming, but there was a minicule chance my contract would get prolongued...or however you say that.

Oh well, it was nice while it lasted....next!

:hug:

I hate to do the cryptic girl thing, honestly, but... really sad about not being able to chat with a good friend.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MoraWintersoul on October 29, 2012, 12:18:26 PM
I hate to do the cryptic girl thing, honestly, but... really sad about not being able to chat with a good friend.
I hate it when that happens *hugs you*
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on October 29, 2012, 12:19:35 PM
I hate to do the cryptic girl thing, honestly, but... really sad about not being able to chat with a good friend.
I hate it when that happens *hugs you*

Yeah, it really sucks. *hugs you back*
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cyclopssss on October 29, 2012, 12:29:43 PM
Alright, when did I got kicked out of this huggin´  :yeahright
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on October 29, 2012, 01:24:46 PM
 :lol :rollin :lol

MEGA :hug:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MoraWintersoul on October 29, 2012, 04:53:40 PM
*joins* :hug:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on October 29, 2012, 07:15:42 PM
HUGFEST! :)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on October 29, 2012, 07:51:56 PM
I want something to smash with my bare hands.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on October 29, 2012, 11:21:49 PM
 :(
 
Burn the m-fer down?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on October 29, 2012, 11:28:29 PM
I want something to smash with my bare hands.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/Pluto_concept.jpg)

This one? No, too feeble.

(https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/images/VIIRS_4Jan2012_708x432.jpg)

This one…yes, perhaps. Yes. This one shall do nicely.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on October 30, 2012, 01:27:25 AM
Ended up getting drunk on a Monday night instead. Good job Alex, good job.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on October 30, 2012, 02:54:02 AM
Well if my Ziltoid joke didn't cheer you up, I'm not sure anything can.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on October 30, 2012, 10:47:32 AM
No, that joke had me in stitches for a few minutes. Just didn't bother typing that last night.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on October 31, 2012, 12:07:25 AM
I'm getting the feeling that I'm probably not suited for the job that I want - I'll still apply, but I have a feeling I'm gonna fail pretty hard.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dr. DTVT on November 01, 2012, 12:02:38 AM
Not really angry or depressed, but I have this student that tries very hard and still has crappy test scores.  He comes to my office for extra help more than other students, in the classroom he seems to get it and is active in discussion, but when test day rolls around it's disasterpiece theater.  This is the worst part of my job.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on November 01, 2012, 02:08:22 AM
Test anxiety, maybe?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: snapple on November 01, 2012, 08:58:25 AM
Not really angry or depressed, but I have this student that tries very hard and still has crappy test scores.  He comes to my office for extra help more than other students, in the classroom he seems to get it and is active in discussion, but when test day rolls around it's disasterpiece theater.  This is the worst part of my job.

My highschool chemistry (AP chem) teacher was really good to me. He knew that he taught the class to be competitive between students, but I told him that that was something I wasn't into. I was in it for myself. Anyway, I had struggles with homework more than anything, and he spent a lot of time with me on it. I got a 4.0 despite my bad homework grades, because I tested well and he knew I knew the stuff. I don't know, but Chem teachers seem to be fucking amazing and it's a great subject.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Akasha on November 01, 2012, 11:31:52 AM
Not really angry or depressed, but I have this student that tries very hard and still has crappy test scores.  He comes to my office for extra help more than other students, in the classroom he seems to get it and is active in discussion, but when test day rolls around it's disasterpiece theater.  This is the worst part of my job.

Ask his other teachers how he does on their tests. If he does poorly and his notebook is a mess he may need to be tested for dyslexia. I myself have a mild form of dyslexia. Mine wasn't diagnosed till about 10 yrs ago.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ħ on November 01, 2012, 12:35:42 PM
Not really angry or depressed, but I have this student that tries very hard and still has crappy test scores.  He comes to my office for extra help more than other students, in the classroom he seems to get it and is active in discussion, but when test day rolls around it's disasterpiece theater.  This is the worst part of my job.
You teach organic chemistry, right? If so, that would explain the low test scores. That stuff is hard. In my experience, I "got it" when walking through it slowly and conceptually. For example, if I was going through the section on electrophilic aromatic substitution, I pretty much was able to predict how each reaction that follows that mechanism was going to go. But when test time rolled around and I had to synthesize (no pun intended) a ton of information, it blew me down.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: carl320 on November 02, 2012, 09:23:30 PM
/rant

I drive trucks and it pisses me off that I'm constantly passed by cars that are doing something that, if I did them driving, would get me fined and shut down.  If I have a light that doesn't work, a DOT officer could pull me over and nail me to the wall with an inspection.  God help me if I get caught with my cell phone in hand ($2700 fine and I'm sure my company would have something nice for me too).  Today I was passed on numerous occasions by people just typing away on their phones, oblivious to the truck that was in the lane right next to them.  If I did half the things I see other drivers do and got caught, I'd be out of a job right now.

/endrant
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on November 03, 2012, 11:24:43 PM
(https://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/mad/mad0245.gif)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on November 03, 2012, 11:37:51 PM
Super depressed. Life feels like a small confining box at the moment. Not overly fond of it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on November 04, 2012, 04:49:28 AM
I hear ya bro.  Every time things seem to be looking up, shit hits the fan.  Sucks when that shit is totally out of your control, and totally illogical/irrational.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: carl320 on November 04, 2012, 11:01:54 AM
(https://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/mad/mad0245.gif)

Exactly (https://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/mad/mad0245.gif)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on November 04, 2012, 01:15:10 PM
I hear ya bro.  Every time things seem to be looking up, shit hits the fan.  Sucks when that shit is totally out of your control, and totally illogical/irrational.

Hear hear.

(https://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/mad/mad0245.gif)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: snapple on November 05, 2012, 08:38:48 PM
The job I have pays the bills...which is putting my wife through school with $0 in loans/debt. Unfortunately, my job is sales based and I'm not doing a stellar job. I'm not really comfortable with sales. I had my 90 day review today and it didn't go well. First, my boss and I get a long really well. He told me he was losing sleep over this. I basically have 30 days to get my crap together or I need to go and find a job. I understand why this is the case. He needs to make money on me (he's breaking even). It sucks because I have no idea what the hell I want to do with my life. I do not like sales. I don't like the pressure and it's really putting me out of my comfort zone. Just general thoughts/prayers I guess. If you have any advice, I'm all ears.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dr. DTVT on November 05, 2012, 08:51:30 PM
What kind of sales?  Not all sales positions are high pressure ones.  Granted, those are the ones that have the greatest potential.  I know what you mean though.  I sold Kirby vacuum cleaners for a while and even though I was pretty good at it, I certainly didn't like some of the tactics I was told to use and led to a crisis of conscious that led me to taking a lower paying job making pizzas until I got a job using my college degree.  If you like other aspects of your job, you should write those down and try to come up with a list of what you want and don't want in a job.  Do you like working with people or not?  How much physical labor do you like?  Do you want to be mobile and travel locally or do you want to be in one place for most of the day?  How much autonomy do you want?  Guidance from your supervisor?  Once you get a list, share it with people you know (us included if you so desire) and just talk about what jobs might suit you. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Mebert78 on November 06, 2012, 08:59:30 AM
Sorry to sort-of parachute in here, but does anyone suffer from "seasonal depression"?  I always have a tendency to get incredibly depressed without warning and it causes me to isolate myself for weeks or months at a time.  It's affected my ability to have long-term relationships.  Anyway, I thought I conquered it this year by getting involved in a bunch of activities and meeting new people and keeping myself busy, but all of a sudden the past couple of weeks I feel like I'm relapsing.  Yesterday at work, I had this immense sadness and some tears for no real reason.  I didn't let anyone see, obviously.  I texted one of my female friends who I trust and asked her if this happens to her, and she said it could be seasonal depression.  She said she felt bummed out too yesterday.  It's dark early now and it affects our equilibrium or whatever and sparks a serious mood change. (Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasonal_affective_disorder).  I had never heard of it.  But then I realized that this same time last year I got really low as well and didn't go out for a couple months.  Does this happen to anyone else?  I have a good life and really don't have anything to be down about.  I hate that this happens every so often, because I end up pushing people away and ruining relationships.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: snapple on November 06, 2012, 09:00:28 AM
in short, yes.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on November 06, 2012, 09:07:28 AM
Yes.  I don't, but my wife does.  It just lingers on and on, and gnaws away at her.  With a lot of it being due to lack of sunlight, a lot of Vitamin D helps off-set, as does this (mimics some of the natural effects/benefits of sunlight)

(https://images.costco.ca/image/media/350-702301-894__1.jpg)

https://www.philips.ca/c/light-therapy/golite-blu-plus-rechargeable-hf3332_60/prd/en/
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MoraWintersoul on November 10, 2012, 10:39:21 AM
Really not doing too well. I have all sorts of physical/mental symptoms of being kicked in the ass by life, I can't focus on anything and I've been kicking myself in the ass too and crying periodically since this morning for realizing I am not doing too well at all and that I've been in denial (sorry for being vague, this is just the most I can do right now) and the last person I vented to - no, the person who technically overheard what I told to the last person I vented to - brushed it off as angsty teen bullshit.

I need a picture of something happy please.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Tick on November 10, 2012, 11:43:28 AM
Really not doing too well. I have all sorts of physical/mental symptoms of being kicked in the ass by life, I can't focus on anything and I've been kicking myself in the ass too and crying periodically since this morning for realizing I am not doing too well at all and that I've been in denial (sorry for being vague, this is just the most I can do right now) and the last person I vented to - no, the person who technically overheard what I told to the last person I vented to - brushed it off as angsty teen bullshit.

I need a picture of something happy please.
I wish I could offer you real solace but all I can say is try to realize each day presents an opportunity to start fresh. Today you feel depressed. Believe tomorrow will be better. Hold on to that hope. Don't let your demons beat you!
Sorry your having such a rough day. :sad:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on November 10, 2012, 11:46:06 AM
Really not doing too well. I have all sorts of physical/mental symptoms of being kicked in the ass by life, I can't focus on anything and I've been kicking myself in the ass too and crying periodically since this morning for realizing I am not doing too well at all and that I've been in denial (sorry for being vague, this is just the most I can do right now) and the last person I vented to - no, the person who technically overheard what I told to the last person I vented to - brushed it off as angsty teen bullshit.

I need a picture of something happy please.

(https://i2.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/250/draft_lens1277226module42134022photo_1245833987SlowLorisSonya.JPG)

-hug-
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on November 10, 2012, 05:09:23 PM
Really not doing too well. I have all sorts of physical/mental symptoms of being kicked in the ass by life, I can't focus on anything and I've been kicking myself in the ass too and crying periodically since this morning for realizing I am not doing too well at all and that I've been in denial (sorry for being vague, this is just the most I can do right now) and the last person I vented to - no, the person who technically overheard what I told to the last person I vented to - brushed it off as angsty teen bullshit.

I need a picture of something happy please.

(https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/bizarredevotedfan/Randomness/crai.jpg)

Kittehs always make me happy when I'm feeling down, especially my three furry kiddos.  Hang in there, and sorry you're having a rough go of it. :hug: :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Elite on November 10, 2012, 05:42:19 PM
Really not doing too well. I have all sorts of physical/mental symptoms of being kicked in the ass by life, I can't focus on anything and I've been kicking myself in the ass too and crying periodically since this morning for realizing I am not doing too well at all and that I've been in denial (sorry for being vague, this is just the most I can do right now) and the last person I vented to - no, the person who technically overheard what I told to the last person I vented to - brushed it off as angsty teen bullshit.

I need a picture of something happy please.

Get here and I'll hug ya. Don't focus too much on the negative stuff and be happy, you deserve that :)

:hug:

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Perpetual Change on November 13, 2012, 01:51:45 PM
No regular work is really starting to get to me, mentally. I'm over-educated and under-qualified to do anything validating. I think I might be going nowhere in life, and probably can't control that anyway. I feel like I need help, but I don't know where to go for it, or how to get it, or even what kind of help I need.  :(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on November 13, 2012, 01:52:51 PM
No regular work is really starting to get to me, mentally. I'm over-educated and under-qualified to do anything validating. I think I might be going nowhere in life, and probably can't control that anyway. I feel like I need help, but I don't know where to go for it, or how to get it, or even what kind of help I need.  :(

You totally summed it up for me too bro. Thankfully my solution is.............more education! I'm hoping jobs will just start to feel bad turning down a guy with 2 masters, you know, once I get the other.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Perpetual Change on November 13, 2012, 01:55:58 PM
I had a two (2!) hour interview last week, which I felt like went great, with everyone smiling and laughing and shit. I've tried to follow up a few times since then, and I've gotten no acknowledgement what so ever. No response via phone or e-mail.

I might have to do another master's degree. Maybe I should just starting looking for PhD programs. I guess I should be thankful that I still have my 'rents around supporting me.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on November 13, 2012, 02:00:42 PM
I had a two (2!) hour interview last week, which I felt like went great, with everyone smiling and laughing and shit. I've tried to follow up a few times since then, and I've gotten no acknowledgement what so ever. No response via phone or e-mail. This is fucking gay!

I might have to do another master's degree. Maybe I should just starting looking for PhD programs. I guess I should be thankful that I still have my 'rents around supporting me.

Yea, went on a few interviews myself, and each one told me they'd get back to me either way.

Usually never heard back.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Perpetual Change on November 13, 2012, 02:01:19 PM
Also, I can't believe I wrote "this is fucking gay!". Sorry, I don't talk like that actually. That was a weird slip.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on November 13, 2012, 09:05:21 PM
Dumbass arguments fucking suck!  Why do people who supposedly love you lurch on to one portion of one sentence ... completely misunderstand it, get pissed about what they think you said, and then refuse to hear the 18 ways you try to clarify what the comment really meant.

Nice fucking evening I did not have.

FML.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dr. DTVT on November 13, 2012, 09:31:29 PM
Dumbass arguments fucking suck!  Why do people who supposedly love you lurch on to one portion of one sentence ... completely misunderstand it, get pissed about what they think you said, and then refuse to hear the 18 ways you try to clarify what the comment really meant.

Nice fucking evening I did not have.

FML.

This is largely why I'm single...because I don't put up with that shit.

Of course, I'm not getting any in the forseeable future...so there's the one and only downside.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on November 13, 2012, 09:54:41 PM
:hug: ?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dr. DTVT on November 13, 2012, 10:13:54 PM
He said he wants a blow job.  You might not want to hug him, he might get attached.  :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on November 13, 2012, 10:14:34 PM
He said he wants a blow job.  You might not want to hug him, he might get attached.  :lol

Seneca and Elite wanted the hummers.  I was just playing matchmaker.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on November 13, 2012, 10:18:18 PM
He said he wants a blow job.  You might not want to hug him, he might get attached.  :lol

Jesus H, Mason! :rollin :rollin
 
He said he wants a blow job.  You might not want to hug him, he might get attached.  :lol

Seneca and Elite wanted the hummers.  I was just playing matchmaker.

You too, Chad! :yeahright :lol
 
Not that I'm a barnacle or anything... :laugh:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dr. DTVT on November 13, 2012, 10:18:30 PM
agh...I got the Christmas thread and this one mixed up  :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on November 13, 2012, 10:22:21 PM
Epic derp. :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on November 14, 2012, 12:18:03 AM
He said he wants a blow job.  You might not want to hug him, he might get attached.  :lol

agh...I got the Christmas thread and this one mixed up  :lol

:rollin :lol  :lol  :lol  :lol  :lol  :rollin
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Elite on November 14, 2012, 02:54:58 AM
Holy shit :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: snapple on November 14, 2012, 09:50:49 AM
HAd my 90 day review on Monday. It's not going so well. I'm barely paying for myself and I'm not making my boss any money. So, basically, if I don't make money this month, I'm looking for a new job. Goddammit. I've also been drinking a lot. Just not a good week.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on November 14, 2012, 09:53:12 AM
HAd my 90 day review on Monday. It's not going so well. I'm barely paying for myself and I'm not making my boss any money. So, basically, if I don't make money this month, I'm looking for a new job. Goddammit. I've also been drinking a lot. Just not a good week.

I'd suggest not doing so much of the tiny text stuff. Really doesn't help at all.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: snapple on November 14, 2012, 09:54:28 AM
HAd my 90 day review on Monday. It's not going so well. I'm barely paying for myself and I'm not making my boss any money. So, basically, if I don't make money this month, I'm looking for a new job. Goddammit. I've also been drinking a lot. Just not a good week.

I'd suggest not doing so much of the tiny text stuff. Really doesn't help at all.

I know. But, I get home from work and my wife is at work...so I just go for it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on November 14, 2012, 09:56:48 AM
Hence my suggestion to stop. I mean, it's up to you. But it's just making things worse for you, you know....strictly from a psychological, neurological, biological and chemical perspective. So just imo.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: snapple on November 14, 2012, 09:58:09 AM
Hence my suggestion to stop. I mean, it's up to you. But it's just making things worse for you, you know....strictly from a psychological, neurological, biological and chemical perspective. So just imo.

Actually, I had the review last Monday. I was able to stay away from the stuff for a couple of days, but it's been able to sucker me back into it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on November 14, 2012, 10:07:45 AM
Hence my suggestion to stop. I mean, it's up to you. But it's just making things worse for you, you know....strictly from a psychological, neurological, biological and chemical perspective. So just imo.

Actually, I had the review last Monday. I was able to stay away from the stuff for a couple of days, but it's been able to sucker me back into it.

So resist. I dunno man, do what you want, I'm just offering some advice.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Perpetual Change on November 14, 2012, 10:50:27 AM
Hence my suggestion to stop. I mean, it's up to you. But it's just making things worse for you, you know....strictly from a psychological, neurological, biological and chemical perspective. So just imo.

Care to explain? I'm also starting to feel uncomfortable with the regularity of my drinking. (Not necessarily the quantity-- I don't drink a lot, but I drink almost every day)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on November 14, 2012, 10:55:05 AM
Hence my suggestion to stop. I mean, it's up to you. But it's just making things worse for you, you know....strictly from a psychological, neurological, biological and chemical perspective. So just imo.

Care to explain? I'm also starting to feel uncomfortable with the regularity of my drinking. (Not necessarily the quantity-- I don't drink a lot, but I drink almost every day)

Well it seems on this board that anyone over the drinking age (well a lot of them anyway) view alcohol as the worlds greatest idea, so I feel my badmouthing it will be met soon enough to tons of people telling you guys to drink more.

But since you asked, alcohol is a depressant. It literally puts your brain to sleep. So the reason it feels so good to drink when you're depressed is because it stops you from thinking about being depressed, however it keeps the person depressed.....which is why you have to keep drinking. Psychologically it's a matter of repressing the problem for as long as possible while continuously doing physical damage to your body and neurological damage to your brain (provided we're not just talking about a glass of wine at dinner or something).

But like I said, you guys do what you feel is right.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Perpetual Change on November 14, 2012, 11:03:54 AM
Dude, I realize this is you're area. I'm not gonna jump on you because you say something unpopular. For what it's worth, I think I'm feeling a lot of what you're saying. I usually limit myself to 1-2 drinks per day, but I still feel like I don't know why I do it, and should be able to get through without drinking a few days a week (which I can, I think, but I don't, because drinking is always an option and, shit, beer is so much better than juice).
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on November 14, 2012, 11:06:33 AM
Dude, I realize this is you're area. I'm not gonna jump on you because you say something unpopular. For what it's worth, I think I'm feeling a lot of what you're saying. I usually limit myself to 1-2 drinks per day, but I still feel like I don't know why I do it, and should be able to get through without drinking a few days a week (which I can, I think, but I don't, because drinking is always an option and, shit, beer is so much better than juice).

One of the reasons I wasn't loved by my supervisor when I was a substance abuse counselor was because I didn't like telling others what to do or not to do. So I just educated them and offered any help if they wanted it. But if they wanted to keep drinking, I didn't tell them not to, just like I won't tell you not to. If you need any advice or help or have any questions, you are free to PM me. But whether or not you, or snapple or half the board drink is totally your guys' call.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: snapple on November 14, 2012, 11:08:47 AM
One of the reasons I wasn't loved by my supervisor when I was a substance abuse counselor was because I didn't like telling others what to do or not to do. So I just educated them and offered any help if they wanted it. But if they wanted to keep drinking, I didn't tell them not to, just like I won't tell you not to. If you need any advice or help or have any questions, you are free to PM me. But whether or not you, or snapple or half the board drink is totally your guys' call.

Unless they're going to physically harm someone, I don't really think a counselor should tell people what to do.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on November 14, 2012, 11:09:27 AM
One of the reasons I wasn't loved by my supervisor when I was a substance abuse counselor was because I didn't like telling others what to do or not to do. So I just educated them and offered any help if they wanted it. But if they wanted to keep drinking, I didn't tell them not to, just like I won't tell you not to. If you need any advice or help or have any questions, you are free to PM me. But whether or not you, or snapple or half the board drink is totally your guys' call.

Unless they're going to physically harm someone, I don't really think a counselor should tell people what to do.

I agree. Sadly my supervisor didn't.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: snapple on November 14, 2012, 11:11:33 AM
Well, I think your supervisor is probably in the minority. In every class I've taken, every class my wife has taken (she's going into art therapy - and her elective credits have all been 300+ level psych classes) and every psychology professor/professional we have ever talked to has said "don't tell patients what to do". Instead, ask them if there are goals they can accomplish etc. etc. you know more about this than I do personally.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on November 14, 2012, 11:13:59 AM
Well, I think your supervisor is probably in the minority. In every class I've taken, every class my wife has taken (she's going into art therapy - and her elective credits have all been 300+ level psych classes) and every psychology professor/professional we have ever talked to has said "don't tell patients what to do". Instead, ask them if there are goals they can accomplish etc. etc. you know more about this than I do personally.

Yea, she was a cunt.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: snapple on November 14, 2012, 11:16:19 AM
 :lol

To get back OT, I know where my depression stems from:

1.) Winter is coming.
2.) Not succeeding in my job as much as I'd like to (and apparently not enough).
3.) Not being able to remove financial worry from my wife so she can just focus on school.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Perpetual Change on November 14, 2012, 11:22:49 AM
So, I apparently have a job now. Part time, working as a cashier. I'm supposed to start Monday.

Meanwhile, I just received two phone calls: one asking me to interview with a company next week, and one asking me to take a "caliber test" for a position I interviewed for a few weeks ago. I don't really know what to do now: I was so freaked out about taking part time work because I didn't want it to interfere with finding full time work, and now I'm nervous that if I go to work on Monday, the guy I'm supposed to be working for (who is a good guy) is going to be pissed when I potentially wind up leaving my new job within a few days/weeks. Everyone I know says that you should just do whatever you can to make money until something better comes along but... I dunno... it seems kinda weird to me, to take a job when you know you're not gonna stay for that long.

Blah. I obsess over stuff like this. Maybe that is why I get depressed.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ħ on November 14, 2012, 11:49:21 AM
Don't worry about it. Part time jobs are super easy to walk away from. After all, employers basically view part time workers as just holding filler positions.

Besides, don't about this guy's feelings stop you from getting to where you think you need to get to.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: snapple on November 14, 2012, 01:39:38 PM
My boss is doing an interview right now and I can actually hear him throwing me under the bus. Fuck that.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on November 14, 2012, 01:46:49 PM
My boss is doing an interview right now and I can actually hear him throwing me under the bus. Fuck that.

hijack the bus. Run the dirt bag over.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: snapple on November 14, 2012, 01:49:06 PM
My boss is doing an interview right now and I can actually hear him throwing me under the bus. Fuck that.

hijack the bus. Run the dirt bag over.

I actually thought? he was a nice guy. Like, I know if he's not making money on me it's not worth it to keep me on. I get that. But I didn't think he would say my fucking name as an example of why he's hiring. That's classless. I hope that person would turn down the job if offered.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ħ on November 14, 2012, 02:57:05 PM
Wow, that sucks. Do you think you're going to get canned pretty soon?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: snapple on November 14, 2012, 03:00:46 PM
Wow, that sucks. Do you think you're going to get canned pretty soon?

If I don't get my sales by the end of the month, I will.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Perpetual Change on November 14, 2012, 04:38:09 PM
That's the reason why I never even think about taking jobs that are paid based on commission.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: snapple on November 14, 2012, 04:40:50 PM
That's the reason why I never even think about taking jobs that are paid based on commission.
It's salary+commission. The salary is enough to pay the bills.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MetalMike06 on November 21, 2012, 11:48:26 PM
I feel a bit apprehensive about posting this kinda thing, but what the hell. Bumpity bump.

To put it bluntly, for a while now I've had an unshakable feeling that I have no reason to get up in the morning. I'm unemployed, dropped my classes, can't get myself to write any decent music, and have run out of ideas as to what to do with my life. I can't find real joy or motivation in anything I used to. Guitar isn't even fun anymore. I have a few friends whom I don't see more than once a week maybe (aside from my roommate), and I haven't dated anybody in seven years. My day typically consists of browsing the web, some gaming, TV, and then a long walk to a usual coffee joint (where I just read and browse on my netbook), and home again. I have started going to my parents house for dinner several nights a week simply 'cause I have nothing else to do, and few others to talk to. Needless to say money's running low, but that's the least of my worries, frankly. This has been going on for months now. I wouldn't consider myself suicidal or anything like that. But life kinda sucks right now. I just feel shitty about myself all the time.

That is all. Had to get it out somewhere.  :millahhhh
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on November 21, 2012, 11:52:06 PM
I feel a bit apprehensive about posting this kinda thing, but what the hell. Bumpity bump.

To put it bluntly, for a while now I've had an unshakable feeling that I have no reason to get up in the morning. I'm unemployed, dropped my classes, can't get myself to write any decent music, and have run out of ideas as to what to do with my life. I can't find real joy or motivation in anything I used to. Guitar isn't even fun anymore. I have a few friends whom I don't see more than once a week maybe (aside from my roommate), and I haven't dated anybody in seven years. My day typically consists of browsing the web, some gaming, TV, and then a long walk to a usual coffee joint (where I just read and browse on my netbook), and home again. I have started going to my parents house for dinner several nights a week simply 'cause I have nothing else to do, and few others to talk to. Needless to say money's running low, but that's the least of my worries, frankly. This has been going on for months now. I wouldn't consider myself suicidal or anything like that. But life kinda sucks right now. I just feel shitty about myself all the time.

That is all. Had to get it out somewhere.  :millahhhh

Believe me dude, I have been exactly there.....(well minus the specifics of your day) multiple times. Each time I've honestly considered suicide. But eventually something changes, it's unpredictable when and you never see it coming. However at some point during these dark times, something will come around and give you some external purpose. Until that comes, just hang tight and remember that you are not defined by your job, or your hobbies or anything like that.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cyclopssss on November 22, 2012, 03:21:00 AM
Yes, exactly. I've spent about 7 years of my life like that before I got employed. I've litteraly spent weeks just gettin' up late afternoons, going to bed at 3/4 on the morning, just eating, pissing, drinking pots of coffee, reading and staring lethargic at the tv for hours. There wasn't any pc/notebooks or anything yet. That's not something to get cheerful about, but I've somehow always known things would change for the good. What's important is: stay in personal contact with your friends and parents/family. Talk to people, even if it's only for lettin'off steam. Trust me, it will get better. But you have to motivate yourself out of that hole.

Hang in there, buddy. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ħ on November 24, 2012, 12:14:03 AM
I feel a bit apprehensive about posting this kinda thing, but what the hell. Bumpity bump.

To put it bluntly, for a while now I've had an unshakable feeling that I have no reason to get up in the morning. I'm unemployed, dropped my classes, can't get myself to write any decent music, and have run out of ideas as to what to do with my life. I can't find real joy or motivation in anything I used to. Guitar isn't even fun anymore. I have a few friends whom I don't see more than once a week maybe (aside from my roommate), and I haven't dated anybody in seven years. My day typically consists of browsing the web, some gaming, TV, and then a long walk to a usual coffee joint (where I just read and browse on my netbook), and home again. I have started going to my parents house for dinner several nights a week simply 'cause I have nothing else to do, and few others to talk to. Needless to say money's running low, but that's the least of my worries, frankly. This has been going on for months now. I wouldn't consider myself suicidal or anything like that. But life kinda sucks right now. I just feel shitty about myself all the time.

That is all. Had to get it out somewhere.  :millahhhh
Yeah man, that's tough to hear. Well, the one thing you can count on in life is that it changes. For better or worse. But you do have an influence in which direction it'll go.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wkiml on November 27, 2012, 02:29:36 PM
not looking forward to tomorrow at all

7 months ago I lost my best friend (ex-wife) to cancer, not a day goes by that I don't think about her in one way or another. Tomorrow would have been her 38th birthday. Just so confused about the whole thing do I mention it to the kids(although I'm sure they know) do we celebrate what would have been her birthday? Do we just ignore it and treat it like another day?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: nightmare_cinema on November 27, 2012, 02:42:35 PM
not looking forward to tomorrow at all

7 months ago I lost my best friend (ex-wife) to cancer, not a day goes by that I don't think about her in one way or another. Tomorrow would have been her 38th birthday. Just so confused about the whole thing do I mention it to the kids(although I'm sure they know) do we celebrate what would have been her birthday? Do we just ignore it and treat it like another day?

I'm so sorry you lost your best friend. I don't know about you but I find it hard to act normal and push stuff like that away when it's something that would have been a big day. I generally find it's the lesser of two evils to just get it out there and acknowledge the elephant in the room. I don't know how old the kids are or if they're kids you had with her and what their level of comprehension is, but chances are in these situations everyone is thinking of the person all the time anyway so it's not going to upset anybody further bringing her into the conversation. Just my two cents. But I know if I tried to let my mum's birthday go by without taking some flowers or a card to her grave I would despise myself for a long time, and that level of self-hatred is a cunt to live with.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: nightmare_cinema on November 27, 2012, 02:46:43 PM
I'm having a bit of a hard time at the minute... my ex broke up with me eight weeks ago out of the blue which I feel basically over, I've been having a great time since the initial hump of having my life ripped to pieces (lost my flat, my relationship, my relationship with my brother, all out of my hands) hanging with friends, getting stuck into my Masters, dating casually, finding a new place to live. But it's a really crappy time of year. If I don't think about him or contemplate too much what the fuck actually happened I'm fine, but I think if I ever saw him or bumped into him I'd probably throw up.

I lost my mum two years this Dec 23rd, and it's going to be hard running up to that date without the support of my ex, or my brother, who was the only other person in the world that knew her like I did. It's complicated but basically after two years of growing closer and developing a good relationship he decided he was really angry at me for reasons I don't even understand and froze me out completely, making it really hard for me to keep an active part of my nephews' lives, the thing that matters most to me in the world.

So this time of year just reminds me of bad stuff, now every day I'm running up to the anniversary thinking yeah this time two years ago I took her to hospital, this day we spoke our last words, this day she died, this day I buried her, and I'm kinda doing it alone now. Plus my health is not so good and I have 12k words to write by January 7th alongside working two other jobs and I'm so tired.

Christmas day I have nobody to really see, my dad hasn't invited me over, I won't be seeing my brother obviously, my sister's in prison, I used to spend it with ex's family so that's off, my best friend is abroad... so I'll be waking up alone, going to do some voluntary work for the afternoon then coming home alone. It's my first xmas single in... eight years. Soooo it's gonna be an experience.

Just wanted to vent. I miss her more and more every week.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: nightmare_cinema on November 27, 2012, 02:52:22 PM
But on the plus side education is going well and leading to a career I think I'll love and be really good at, I have the support and love of my best friends who are practically my family anyway, I know things weren't right for me and my ex for him to want to be without me so I'm glad he did it rather than silently seethe or resent the relationship, I have music, and a kick ass tattoo, and my brother's gf is happy for me to keep seeing nephews when he's not around so it's really not all bad. It's kinda a pot full of terrible shit and a pot full of quite amazing things too. I think it's just that this time of year is always gonna be the time of year I lost my mum now and doing it alone is going to be a fucking hell of a lot harder than doing it alongside someone who was there for me, cared, loved me and understood and was sensitive about it. Just vaguely trepidatious.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on November 27, 2012, 10:40:29 PM
:hug: Faye.  It doesn't replace the real thing (physical friends/family/relationships), but your online friends are always here.   :)

And yes, you have a kick-ass tattoo.  :majesty2:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cyclopssss on November 28, 2012, 01:38:27 AM
Right on, Faye. Losing a close relative sucks. There's nothing worse.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lonestar on November 28, 2012, 10:58:46 AM
OK, time to let this shit out.

Today I hit a year and a half clean and sober, the longest stretch without any mind altering substance since I was eleven. And life isn't making it easy.


Three weeks ago, my roommate and best friend for the last eight years had a fall and hit his head. It bled on his brain for a week unchecked. He continued to work, visit his parents, nobody noticed anything. Then the delerium set in and he crashed his car going down the wrong way of a busy street. It took him a week before he was able to recognize his parents again, and his recovery will be very long and arduous. Barring an absolute miracle, he will be living with his parents for the next year or so, and there is no telling how much he will get back.

Today, I am going to have to start clearing him out of the house. His parents are helping for another couple months with the bills, but then I will need to find another roommate or move. I am also in dire financial straits due to the damage caused by thirty years of aggressive drug abuse and alcoholism. The money is going out everywhere, and there is no room in my life for a second job.

Needless to say, I am hitting my end, it is all so overwhelming. Just the thought of going through the fridge and throwing out his food kills me. I can't even think of another person living here, but I do love my place.

This is all so fucking hard. l'm scared of what's to come. I am insecure in my ability to handle it all. Next to my daughter being in the hospital fighting for her life, nothing can come close to the struggle I am facing. And there is no getting away from it, every aspect of my life, he is involved in. Everywhere I go, people want to know how he is, what his progress is, and all I can do is tell the truth. I am getting spiritually worn from dissapointing people who want to hear good news, tired of seeing broken faces and tears. I am tired.

I won't be drinking today. And tomorrow really doesn't look good for the drink either. If I pick up a drink, all bets are off, my life is over.


Time to start cleaning, to start rebuilding anew. I will need all your love, strength, and support.

I love you guys, thanks for being a calming presence in my life.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cyclopssss on November 28, 2012, 11:03:06 AM
Wow....that´s....I can´t even think of words to say that could possibly comfort you.
Just that my thoughts are with you (as I´m sure we are all with you here).

Just hang in there buddy. Be strong.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on November 28, 2012, 11:06:09 AM
Dude ... I'm at the office, otherwise I'd be Skyping right now. I can't begin to imagine how much something like this just piles on with everything else, and feels like it's ripping you apart. Mrs.Jingle is a firm believer that everything happens for a reason.  Me, not so much.  Not sure where you stand in that regard, but all i can say is that i do believe that the future isn't anywhere near as scary as the past for you.

You've ALWAYS got friends here.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lonestar on November 28, 2012, 11:11:38 AM
There's a saying from the program, if you have one foot in tomorrow and one foot in yesterday, you are pissing on today.


I gotta focus on what I can do today, little bits,it's all I can handle right now.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wkiml on November 28, 2012, 12:02:57 PM
one day at a time, one moment at a time

hit a meeting....get your sponsor or even a sponsee involved..don't do it alone

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Akasha on November 28, 2012, 12:07:16 PM
OK, time to let this shit out.

Today I hit a year and a half clean and sober, the longest stretch without any mind altering substance since I was eleven. And life isn't making it easy.


Three weeks ago, my roommate and best friend for the last eight years had a fall and hit his head. It bled on his brain for a week unchecked. He continued to work, visit his parents, nobody noticed anything. Then the delerium set in and he crashed his car going down the wrong way of a busy street. It took him a week before he was able to recognize his parents again, and his recovery will be very long and arduous. Barring an absolute miracle, he will be living with his parents for the next year or so, and there is no telling how much he will get back.

Today, I am going to have to start clearing him out of the house. His parents are helping for another couple months with the bills, but then I will need to find another roommate or move. I am also in dire financial straits due to the damage caused by thirty years of aggressive drug abuse and alcoholism. The money is going out everywhere, and there is no room in my life for a second job.

Needless to say, I am hitting my end, it is all so overwhelming. Just the thought of going through the fridge and throwing out his food kills me. I can't even think of another person living here, but I do love my place.

This is all so fucking hard. l'm scared of what's to come. I am insecure in my ability to handle it all. Next to my daughter being in the hospital fighting for her life, nothing can come close to the struggle I am facing. And there is no getting away from it, every aspect of my life, he is involved in. Everywhere I go, people want to know how he is, what his progress is, and all I can do is tell the truth. I am getting spiritually worn from dissapointing people who want to hear good news, tired of seeing broken faces and tears. I am tired.

I won't be drinking today. And tomorrow really doesn't look good for the drink either. If I pick up a drink, all bets are off, my life is over.


Time to start cleaning, to start rebuilding anew. I will need all your love, strength, and support.

I love you guys, thanks for being a calming presence in my life.

Love ya too, big brother. Hang in there.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lonestar on November 28, 2012, 12:09:38 PM
one day at a time, one moment at a time

hit a meeting....get your sponsor or even a sponsee involved..don't do it alone


Covered man. Having dinner with a group of guys tonight, then the big stag meeting. No sponsee at the moment, my one guys relapsed and went back into rehab. Also got numerous friends and family who are there for me always.

Keeping myself smack dab in the middle of the pack bud, I ain't getting picked off. Thanks man. :tup


And thanks Akasha, you're awesome. :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Scorpion on November 28, 2012, 12:11:50 PM
Shit lonestar, I can't even begin to imagine how hard that must be on you.

I can't really say much except what others have said already: hang in there, stay strong. We'll always be here for you.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: chknptpie on November 28, 2012, 12:16:54 PM
Sorry to hear RJ. Is there anyone your friends/family/sponsor may know that would be a good roomie for you?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dark Castle on November 28, 2012, 12:19:29 PM
Doing a persuasive speech on why you should purchase physical copies over digital copies of music, and of course we have to a fuckton of sources, but I CAN'T FUCKING FIND ANYTHING ON MY SUBJECT, AS IT'S COMPLETELY FUCKING OPINION BASED.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on November 28, 2012, 12:19:35 PM
Faye :hug:
RJ :heart :hug:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TioJorge on November 28, 2012, 12:23:31 PM
Fuck this shit.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: nightmare_cinema on November 28, 2012, 01:06:36 PM
Faye :hug:
RJ :heart :hug:

thanks :)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lonestar on November 28, 2012, 01:34:30 PM
Deb  :heart

Faye  :heart

Thank you both ladies, you gals are wonderful.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Akasha on November 28, 2012, 09:52:34 PM
Quote

And thanks Akasha, you're awesome. :heart

Your pretty awesome yourself, lonestar.  :heart There is very few people I let talk to me like you did last night.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on November 28, 2012, 09:52:59 PM
Quote

And thanks Akasha, you're awesome. :heart

Your pretty awesome yourself, lonestar.  :heart There is very few people I let talk to me like you did last night.

Oh please be a girl.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on November 28, 2012, 09:56:29 PM
Deb  :heart

Faye  :heart

Thank you both ladies, you gals are wonderful.

You the bee's knees, my buddy. :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ħ on November 28, 2012, 10:16:30 PM
Oh man, lonestar, that just sounds real rough. I've never been anywhere close to that situation in life. Shoot man. You can only control your own choices in the end, and victory or defeat is in your hands, like you said...

You're a tough cookie mate, and have been through so much.  We totally see it and have loads of respect for you - you're a leader to the younguns here and a precious friend to many. You're in the process of emerging from the ashes to a place greater than you've ever been in. "Some things only can be made in the storm" as the Flying Colors songs says. You're a real role model and you got this.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Akasha on November 28, 2012, 10:26:03 PM
Quote

And thanks Akasha, you're awesome. :heart

Your pretty awesome yourself, lonestar.  :heart There is very few people I let talk to me like you did last night.

Oh please be a girl.

I was the last time I looked!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lonestar on November 29, 2012, 12:22:41 AM
Quote

And thanks Akasha, you're awesome. :heart

Your pretty awesome yourself, lonestar.  :heart There is very few people I let talk to me like you did last night.

Just glad you didn't kick my ass over it. :)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cyclopssss on November 29, 2012, 12:41:00 AM
Quote

And thanks Akasha, you're awesome. :heart

Your pretty awesome yourself, lonestar.  :heart There is very few people I let talk to me like you did last night.

Oh please be a girl.

I was the last time I looked!

LOL, I love this forum!!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Perpetual Change on November 29, 2012, 05:23:30 AM
I feel a bit apprehensive about posting this kinda thing, but what the hell. Bumpity bump.

To put it bluntly, for a while now I've had an unshakable feeling that I have no reason to get up in the morning. I'm unemployed, dropped my classes, can't get myself to write any decent music, and have run out of ideas as to what to do with my life. I can't find real joy or motivation in anything I used to. Guitar isn't even fun anymore. I have a few friends whom I don't see more than once a week maybe (aside from my roommate), and I haven't dated anybody in seven years. My day typically consists of browsing the web, some gaming, TV, and then a long walk to a usual coffee joint (where I just read and browse on my netbook), and home again. I have started going to my parents house for dinner several nights a week simply 'cause I have nothing else to do, and few others to talk to. Needless to say money's running low, but that's the least of my worries, frankly. This has been going on for months now. I wouldn't consider myself suicidal or anything like that. But life kinda sucks right now. I just feel shitty about myself all the time.

That is all. Had to get it out somewhere.  :millahhhh

Been there as well. Now I'm working again, and thinking I undervalued all that time I had off.

But have you looked into volunteering? It helps. And it gives you something new to do, and maybe more people to network with. That's not the point, but it's certainly a big bonus.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wkiml on November 29, 2012, 08:44:14 AM
just a follow up.....Yesterday was my ex-wife/best friends birthday (she passed away in April) I was in a pretty much depressed mood all day, couldn't stop thinking about her . Was concerned about how the kids were taking it (I'm out the door at 4:30 am and don't get home until 7 pm) .

Got home last night, kids were doing what kids usually do (TV computer game systems) sat down on the couch and started going thru the mail...all the typical stuff, junk mail and bill or two than I came across an envelope from some religious organization. I'm not big into religion , had a falling out many years ago, but during my sobriety I have started to lean back towards a belief of a higher being. As i open the envelope there is a letter attached , it opens  " During your trying times..........." and it included a cross on a keychain.

What are the odds of this arriving on her birthday?

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on November 29, 2012, 08:53:03 AM
Could be that it was sent to you on purpose.  I say that with zero sarcasm.  Some believe everything happens for a reason.  Some believe there are things in this physical world that cannot be explained - and this I know to be a fact.

"Someone" may have sent that to you to let you know it's ok to grieve, and rely on others.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: nightmare_cinema on November 29, 2012, 09:44:17 AM
just a follow up.....Yesterday was my ex-wife/best friends birthday (she passed away in April) I was in a pretty much depressed mood all day, couldn't stop thinking about her . Was concerned about how the kids were taking it (I'm out the door at 4:30 am and don't get home until 7 pm) .

Got home last night, kids were doing what kids usually do (TV computer game systems) sat down on the couch and started going thru the mail...all the typical stuff, junk mail and bill or two than I came across an envelope from some religious organization. I'm not big into religion , had a falling out many years ago, but during my sobriety I have started to lean back towards a belief of a higher being. As i open the envelope there is a letter attached , it opens  " During your trying times..........." and it included a cross on a keychain.

What are the odds of this arriving on her birthday?

I'm glad to hear you got through the day wkiml, that does sound like a huge conicidence for that to arrive on your best friend's birthday.

Whether it came from anywhere in particular or meant anything is irrelevant really though, isn't it? The fact is that it came at a time when you needed to hear something like that the most. I'm not religious, I don't believe in a god or an afterlife, but about a year ago I was at my brother's house and he'd managed to obtain (illegally I'm sure) a few HUGE bin liners full of shampoos and conditioners from the back of a lorry (natch), and it was all just haircare stuff. I had a rummage through and right there in the middle of one of the bags was an unopened bottle of my mum's signature perfume, that she's worn for as long as I can remember and that I now own several bottles of and wear regularly because just one sniff takes me back to being a little girl in her arms.

He didn't know it was her perfume, nobody could have planted it there that I can think of, I just took it as coincidence but it was really very strange. Part of me wanted to believe she'd had something to do with it and sent a sign to tell me she's still there looking after me and loving us, but it doesn't align with my beliefs. It doesn't matter anyway, these things are important and meaningful to us and it might do more harm than good stressing over whether it's a sign or it has any deep meaning. Just my thoughts anyway.

How are you doing today?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wkiml on November 29, 2012, 09:53:59 AM
back to normal which in my world means I can concentrate on my "one day at a time" mantra





Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: nightmare_cinema on November 29, 2012, 09:57:04 AM
*hugs* I know what it's like to lose someone you love and for me the first ten months to a year was a difficult blur, then the six months after that sheer hell. It's like I needed to go through all of the 'firsts' without them (first birthday, christmas, etc.) before I could start to really process who I'd lost for the rest of my life.

I guess that sounds really demotivational and depressing but I think your 'one day at a time' mantra is pretty much the best way to go about something so tough.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lonestar on November 29, 2012, 10:14:50 AM
back to normal which in my world means I can concentrate on my "one day at a time" mantra

Hope you're doing ok man, weird how we recieve the little things we need, no matter what the source.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wkiml on November 29, 2012, 10:42:07 AM
Lonestar  I'm good.....have some day's where the emotions are all over the place, but can honestly say I have not had a phytsical urge in a very long time and when a thought pops up I quickly shut it down and realize there are much more important things I should be thinking about

Even on my worse days as I sat there and watched her slip away the thought of reaching for a bottle never entered my mind

my biggest problem was the physical addiction, mentally I was ready to quit along time before I did

I was sick and tired of being sick and tired mentally, but physically need it  Once I broke that need and the brain chemistry got back to normal its been for lack of a better word "easy" . I know I have to remind myself not to slip into the trap of taking it for granted


Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on November 29, 2012, 12:11:29 PM
back to normal which in my world means I can concentrate on my "one day at a time" mantra

Sometimes that's all we can do, regardless of what we're up against. :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lonestar on November 29, 2012, 01:33:38 PM
I know I have to remind myself not to slip into the trap of taking it for granted

Every second of the day.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MoraWintersoul on November 29, 2012, 01:45:31 PM
It's like I needed to go through all of the 'firsts' without them (first birthday, christmas, etc.) before I could start to really process who I'd lost for the rest of my life.
I was searching for words to explain it to someone the other day and I couldn't, you put it beautifully. The weirdest part, and it always happens to me, when I see someone in the street that kind of looks like my dad, I half-expect to see him as I get closer. I don't know, half of people's lives are made out of concepts and associations and what they bury inside other people. I'm an atheist but I have no problem with saying that the spirit carries on, and it carries on strong. I think everyone should remember that, especially in this time of the year when everything dies.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: antigoon on November 29, 2012, 01:58:01 PM
Stay strong Lonestar.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lonestar on November 29, 2012, 02:35:09 PM
Thanks bud.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on November 29, 2012, 02:37:23 PM
Stay strong everybody.

And remember Lonestar, when you feel tempted............you don't need drugs, when you got hugs.

-man hug-
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MoraWintersoul on November 29, 2012, 02:38:05 PM
Hugs, I forgot /no hetero
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dr. DTVT on November 29, 2012, 03:46:40 PM
You guys know I'm always here for you or a phone call away.

Man, my problems seem so small compared to some of the stuff life is throwing at you guys.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on November 29, 2012, 10:18:28 PM
You guys know I'm always here for you or a phone call away.

Man, my problems seem so small compared to some of the stuff life is throwing at you guys.

:iagree:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: nightmare_cinema on November 30, 2012, 06:01:10 AM
It's like I needed to go through all of the 'firsts' without them (first birthday, christmas, etc.) before I could start to really process who I'd lost for the rest of my life.
I was searching for words to explain it to someone the other day and I couldn't, you put it beautifully. The weirdest part, and it always happens to me, when I see someone in the street that kind of looks like my dad, I half-expect to see him as I get closer. I don't know, half of people's lives are made out of concepts and associations and what they bury inside other people. I'm an atheist but I have no problem with saying that the spirit carries on, and it carries on strong. I think everyone should remember that, especially in this time of the year when everything dies.

Yeah it's horrible when you see someone who looks like the person you lost. I'm atheist too, but yeah I would agree her spirit carries on, she made me who I am and I try my best to live a life that she would be proud of, and used the experience I had through her illness to do voluntary work in the sector and am now training to be a proper full time helper of people, hopefully in the fields of drug and alcohol addiction. Not sure I'd have been quite so motivated to go down this path if I hadn't had seen her go through it.

With loss it's like, for the first six months or so I was kinda so focused on the sick person I lost, how she looked and what she went through, because she'd changed SO much from being well to being ill. And I was really upset about the pain she went through and adjusting to living without her. But then about six months after she died I went to the museum she used to work at where I'd go randomly visit her after college etc. and straight away it was like I could close my eyes and visualise her coming round the corner happy, healthy, smiling, wearing her work uniform, just exactly how she was three years prior. I swear I could see her smile and the shade of her lipstick and feel the scent of her perfume and the way she looked when she smiled. And that's when the grief really hit me, because I realised that she'd been sick two and a half years, but I'd also lost the happy healthy funny strong witty warm sarcastic stubborn mum I'd had for the first 20 years of my life before roles reversed and I had to look after her. And it cut me so deeply inside to know I'd never see that person again, that she'd never be there if I got married or had kids. And it's still kinda weird to think that she died at a point and she'll never know that I broke up with my bf at the time, that I went on to train as a social worker, that she got a new little grandson this year. It's my first experience of a bereavement and it has been a rollercoaster!

Also didn't help that I was on morphine patches for a good few months and so very emotional and drained anyway.. I've definitely come out of the other side but I feel so much for people who are recently bereaved because you think it's awful but then, in my experience, it gets so, so much worse before it gets better. It'll be two years this December 23rd since she died and I both miss her and fear that I'm forgetting about her./rant
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: snapple on November 30, 2012, 06:03:12 AM
You guys know I'm always here for you or a phone call away.

Man, my problems seem so small compared to some of the stuff life is throwing at you guys.

Don't let it trivialize your issues, however. I mean, if it puts it in perspective and you think "man, maybe it's not a big deal after all!" and you're able to function fine knowing that, then it's cool. But if it actually bothers you, it's not small.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: nightmare_cinema on November 30, 2012, 06:05:28 AM
You guys know I'm always here for you or a phone call away.

Man, my problems seem so small compared to some of the stuff life is throwing at you guys.

Don't let it trivialize your issues, however. I mean, if it puts it in perspective and you think "man, maybe it's not a big deal after all!" and you're able to function fine knowing that, then it's cool. But if it actually bothers you, it's not small.

I couldn't agree more. If it bothers you, it's not small. I had friends who were wary about talking to me about their 'smaller' issues like guy problems, work issues etc. when I lost my mum and was really unwell, and I used to tell them if it bothered them I wanted to hear about it. One person's pain never trivialises another's!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dr. DTVT on November 30, 2012, 01:35:54 PM
You guys know I'm always here for you or a phone call away.

Man, my problems seem so small compared to some of the stuff life is throwing at you guys.

Don't let it trivialize your issues, however. I mean, if it puts it in perspective and you think "man, maybe it's not a big deal after all!" and you're able to function fine knowing that, then it's cool. But if it actually bothers you, it's not small.

No, I didn't mean that I was trivializing my problems, it was more along the lines of realizing that I have it pretty good...except for the part where women aren't lining up to accept my seed like they should be.  The mass mind hive control device isn't working yet.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on November 30, 2012, 04:07:18 PM
I firmly believe that my Granny (Dad's Mom) looks in on Dad and I from time to time, so yeah - the spirit DEFINITELY carries on.

But then I remember how long it took for Dad and I to pass through to acceptance that she really was gone.  I was 19 at the time and her death hit me HARD.  So much so that I wasn't able to go to her funeral.  I also didn't see her the last two months of her life because the cancer just made her so frail when she'd been the pillar of strength for as long as I could remember.  Her birthday is the same day your Mum passed, Faye - I just realized that.

Anyhow, Granny LOVED Christmas - it was her favorite holiday, even though it was so close to her birthday.  Probably because it was then and at Thanksgiving that all of the family would gather, eat, and enjoy the holidays together.  I'll also never forgot the sound of dominoes being shuffled at the kitchen table as I was drifting off to sleep in the living room - Granny and Papoo (my gramps) would partner up for 42, invariably with Dad and one of my two uncles (RIP Uncle Lynn - I think of you every time I hear Elton John).  Just... good memories that never fade.

I still remember Granny's laugh and her gruff way of letting her family know that she really did love them.  Oh... and her sweet tea... :)

I guess my point is that, yes, some things will fade, but she's your Mum - she will ALWAYS live on in your heart.

Gotta go wipe my eyes now. :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MoraWintersoul on November 30, 2012, 04:18:24 PM
Yeah it's horrible when you see someone who looks like the person you lost. I'm atheist too, but yeah I would agree her spirit carries on, she made me who I am and I try my best to live a life that she would be proud of, and used the experience I had through her illness to do voluntary work in the sector and am now training to be a proper full time helper of people, hopefully in the fields of drug and alcohol addiction. Not sure I'd have been quite so motivated to go down this path if I hadn't had seen her go through it.

With loss it's like, for the first six months or so I was kinda so focused on the sick person I lost, how she looked and what she went through, because she'd changed SO much from being well to being ill. And I was really upset about the pain she went through and adjusting to living without her. But then about six months after she died I went to the museum she used to work at where I'd go randomly visit her after college etc. and straight away it was like I could close my eyes and visualise her coming round the corner happy, healthy, smiling, wearing her work uniform, just exactly how she was three years prior. I swear I could see her smile and the shade of her lipstick and feel the scent of her perfume and the way she looked when she smiled. And that's when the grief really hit me, because I realised that she'd been sick two and a half years, but I'd also lost the happy healthy funny strong witty warm sarcastic stubborn mum I'd had for the first 20 years of my life before roles reversed and I had to look after her. And it cut me so deeply inside to know I'd never see that person again, that she'd never be there if I got married or had kids. And it's still kinda weird to think that she died at a point and she'll never know that I broke up with my bf at the time, that I went on to train as a social worker, that she got a new little grandson this year. It's my first experience of a bereavement and it has been a rollercoaster!

Also didn't help that I was on morphine patches for a good few months and so very emotional and drained anyway.. I've definitely come out of the other side but I feel so much for people who are recently bereaved because you think it's awful but then, in my experience, it gets so, so much worse before it gets better. It'll be two years this December 23rd since she died and I both miss her and fear that I'm forgetting about her./rant
:hugs: I don't know you so well, but I think, based on all of this, you're making your mother very proud.

I firmly believe that my Granny (Dad's Mom) looks in on Dad and I from time to time, so yeah - the spirit DEFINITELY carries on.

But then I remember how long it took for Dad and I to pass through to acceptance that she really was gone.  I was 19 at the time and her death hit me HARD.  So much so that I wasn't able to go to her funeral.  I also didn't see her the last two months of her life because the cancer just made her so frail when she'd been the pillar of strength for as long as I could remember.  Her birthday is the same day your Mum passed, Faye - I just realized that.

Anyhow, Granny LOVED Christmas - it was her favorite holiday, even though it was so close to her birthday.  Probably because it was then and at Thanksgiving that all of the family would gather, eat, and enjoy the holidays together.  I'll also never forgot the sound of dominoes being shuffled at the kitchen table as I was drifting off to sleep in the living room - Granny and Papoo (my gramps) would partner up for 42, invariably with Dad and one of my two uncles (RIP Uncle Lynn - I think of you every time I hear Elton John).  Just... good memories that never fade.

I still remember Granny's laugh and her gruff way of letting her family know that she really did love them.  Oh... and her sweet tea... :)

I guess my point is that, yes, some things will fade, but she's your Mum - she will ALWAYS live on in your heart.

Gotta go wipe my eyes now. :heart
Lots of hearts for relatives that make our childhoods so lovely :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dark Castle on December 01, 2012, 06:36:43 PM
I don't know if I've ever talked about it here, but my biological father and I do not have a good relationship at all.

Over the years he's just been a really bad role model, one as a child I looked up too, and because of that I have some very pathetic bad habits as a result of him.  These aren't limited to having problems with porn, self confidence, and constant self doubt.
Without going to much into the past before I bring up what's happening right now, at like 9-10 he pretty much had playboys in my face, pent houses "accidentally" lying around and other such stuff, and it really messed up my psyche of women for awhile, and it's had a huge thing to do with my self confidence in talking to them because I have a mind that wanders, and my dad didn't help even further by pressuring me to get girlfriends, sexitize them and such because "BY 13 I WAS HAVING SEX DYLAN" and shit like that.  And he won't accept the fact that I don't want to be like him, he's told me to drop out of college to join network marketing because he "knows" there's a salesman in me, and that videogame design and music shouldn't be a career.  Every time in the past I'd disagree on something it was "My mom poisoning my mind" and bullshit like that, so to him I'm just my mom's drone, not a unique individual with my own thoughts on the world and my own feelings, no those are my moms just being projected through me.

This has led to me just flat out ignoring his calls in the past, and this year he tried reconnecting with me after about a year or two of me ignoring him.  First time it was nice, we just talked about life and saw a flick, but after that he started pressuring me to join this new "will definitely get me rich" network marketing business, and he kept asking me to get family members phone numbers for him so that he can "help" them and get me "making money".  To him I should be able to make games for fun, not a career, and he thinks Network Marketing is the answer.  I got sick of this and started to ignore his calls again.  His newest tactic of response is to harass my mom and other family members and telling them he needs to talk to me.  I've told him I have two jobs, one part time, one full time, and school.  Both jobs run late into the night so I work all night, and sleep all day, and then school.  I don't have much free time, but to him I'm just lying and that I'm not busy. 

He's started calling me at all hours of the day, and most of the time I'd be sleeping or at work.  He started leaving me very rude and mean spirited text messages saying how I can't spare my "precious time" for my own father and shit so when he did call when I had free time I said fuck that and didn't answer.

Go back a few days ago and my step dad(who I consider dad) and I aer watching a movie, around 1 am, it's halfway over and we're getting tired and my bio dad calls.  I ignore the call because I didn't want to keep my dad up and thought I'd text him after the movie asking him what he wants.  He just texts me immediately after "Your grandma just got out of surgery, she's doing good.  I thought you might care but you probably don't."
I was just flabbergasted.  Why send mean messages and accusatory bullshit when you could have just said we need to talk about my grandma?!  Next day I text him I've gotta head to work but to let me know whats up with grandma, and then I'll call.  He tells me he won't tell me whats wrong with her unless I call and that this busy excuse is crap.

Now today he texts "SLEEPING OR WORKING?!" and I just ignore it, but a few minutes later my mom comes down to my room to tell me he called her.  He yelled at MY mom, accusing her of telling me not to call when she's told me I need to call and get it over with, accused me of being on drugs, and when she told him "Jon, he works two jobs and goes to school, I don't even see him as often anymore, he sleeps, works, goes to school, and doesn't have much off time."
He responded "I know that's bullshit, I know my son is lazy."

I've had it with this man.  I'm going to call tonight to see whats up with my grandma, but if he starts shouting I'm telling him not to call me anymore and hanging up.  I'm so sick of this bullshit  :sadpanda:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Elite on December 01, 2012, 06:48:02 PM
Having been in a similar situation in the past, but from the other side (it was my sister and father that didn't go well together), I think your father is having problems being a father. He doesn't get to see you often and has tried to reach out to you in whatever way he thinks is best. When this apparently doesn't work and you start ignoring him, I can understand him getting frustrated, although this example is not how he should handle it.

If I may just say so, I would try to reconnect with him, but talk stuff out. It would be better for both of you, I suppose. If you can get him to know (and realise) what you're doing and if he can find consolidation in that, that's good, but you also need to take into account he's your father and you should give him some of your time as well. It's a two-sided thing.

I don't see my parents often either, but I don't have a bad relationship with them in any way, but I do know they love it when I come around and like with all relationships, it's part giving and part taking.

Again, I don't mean to be mean-spirited, I'm just talking from what I saw happened between my sister and father. I'm no psychiatrist either, but I really think somethings going wrong on both sides of the argument, not just on your father's.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dark Castle on December 01, 2012, 07:00:08 PM
Oh yeah there's definitely some fault here that's mine.  Instead of ignoring him I really should have just told him how I feel about where things stand, but it's just so hard, I've never really stood up to him before :(

I just hope he can tell me about my grandma without personally attacking me, otherwise I might just give up.  One thing I didn't mention was up until he married again, to this lady (who's just very mean spirited and loves belittling him, and she just pushes issues that are non-issues) we got along well enough.  I feel like this is part of the problem that caused the rift between us, because of all the bad habits he taught me, we could still get along, but since that point, he's just gone on the attack with network marketing, pressuring me, and taking a mean spirited edge with me when we disagree.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on December 01, 2012, 07:14:22 PM
I'm sorry about all that's happened with your dad. He obviously has a lot of issues, and it doesn't seem like he intends to work on them anytime soon. Although of course you want to have some kind of relationship with him, I can say from experience with having TOXIC fucking family members, sometimes keeping your distance is the healthiest thing you can do.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on December 01, 2012, 07:17:10 PM
^ Word on the staying away from the toxicity.  Sorry you're having to deal with all of that, Darky.
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Post by: bout to crash on December 01, 2012, 07:20:16 PM
Racist.
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Post by: DebraKadabra on December 01, 2012, 07:21:21 PM
 :facepalm: :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on December 01, 2012, 07:23:02 PM
:lolpalm:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dark Castle on December 01, 2012, 07:27:54 PM
Thanks guys :)
So I called. It was foot surgery, he's still pushing for my family members phone numbers, and he's saying he wishes I knew what I wanted to do in life.
Welp, he seriously thought I was on drugs.   :facepalm: 
Not answering phone = Drugs, lots of drugs.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on December 01, 2012, 07:31:41 PM
Not answering phone = Drugs, lots of drugs.

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Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dark Castle on December 01, 2012, 07:49:37 PM
Oh my god, what a shitlord.  What a fucking shitlord.
This fucking man.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: nightmare_cinema on December 02, 2012, 04:12:28 AM
Just feeling really terrible today. After a long and boring story of my sociopath criminal brother and I forming a relationship over the past two years since our mum died and then him inexplicably and completely freezing me out six weeks ago (just after he helped to contribute to the wrecking of my relationship through such tactics as threatening violence against my ex and telling him he didn't care if his grandma died or not, he wanted the apartment painting by the end of the week) I finally allowed the rage and the sadness to boil over and sent him a final text. I've tried everything to speak to him, he has ignored my calls, my texts and refused to open the door to me and to have my big brother do that to me after I'd just had my heart broken in the wake of losing our mum together is just the final fucking straw.

So I texted him a massive goodbye text telling him he's dead to me and he can go fuck himself if he thinks I'm gonna sit and wait around while he gets whatever's up with him out of his system then tries to act like nothing's happened (he does this to other people, it's the first time it's happened to me) then he doesn't know me at all and I'm done trying and don't want to hear from him again. I had to pull over and cry at my job for the first time in weeks because what I said to him, while true, hurt so much to express. People say don't burn bridges but I wouldn't let a friend treat me this way, so I'm sure as fuck not gonna let someone who's supposed to be there for me do it. He's a cunt but I'd still have done anything for him cos he's my big brother and I love(d?) him and the way he's acting hurts more than the bereavement, and more than the breakup.

It's like I lost my mum but I got through it because I had my ex's support there every day, and my brother who knew what I was going through. And then the breakup, which was even worse because I couldn't go to my mum for support or talk it over with her, but at least I had my big brother. And then he does this to me, and I suddenly realise I'm facing my first christmas day alone because I've lost three of the people that meant the most to me in the world, all out of my control. And I don't know how much more loss I can take, I really don't.

So then my subconscious decided last night was a good time to have my ex pop up in my dream, saying he made a mistake and begging to have me back. I rejected the shit out of him and he was a mess but it still crushed me a little to wake up and remember actually, no, he doesn't want me back and does think he's better off without me... things with my brother are over and it's three weeks until the 2nd anniversary of losing my mum. It's a shit time of year anyway and that's when I still had my family, and my partner. The saving grace is the wonderful family of close friends I've built up over the years, but I'm still reeling. And very, very angry and upset.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on December 02, 2012, 04:22:51 AM
 :(

::hug::
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on December 02, 2012, 05:05:43 AM
Faye, I know just what you're going thru.  I've "lost" my brother, mother and father all at some point over the las 13 years. Started with my brother just after my wedding, and we didn't patch things up for almost 6 years ... Things still aren't great between us, but cordial. My mom... I didn't speak to her for a year and a half a few years back.  Things are pretty good between us now.  My dad ... Who used to be my best friend, is a complete cluster fuck. I think I've spoken with him 3 times in the last 6 months.

I feel for you, but I think you're bag on with your statement that you wouldn't let friends treat you this way, so why let a family member do so.  Unfortunately, we can't chose our family, so they get a little more slack than we would normally give, but that doesn't mean it's unlimited.

I know it's hard, but maybe something will change in the future.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: nightmare_cinema on December 02, 2012, 05:31:39 AM
I can be pretty cold when I have to be, I sacked my dad off when I was 17 for several years, we're close again now but for three years I had nothing to do with him, I really don't do it lightly but I find it hard to forgive someone if they have really been a dick to me.

I guess it's just getting to me because three months ago I thought things were really on the up, I had my course to look forward to, a stable (hah) happy loving relationship with someone I was crazy about and a close relationship with my brother and nephews which was novel and awesome. And then I lost my relationship, my apartment, my brother, while trying to start this full time course and being sick, having to move overnight with nowhere to go other than crashing at people's houses and then finding my feet and getting a house together again and making myself go to work every day because I had no choice, that and the debt I'm accruing thanks to the house move and supporting myself alone again after sharing everything for years. I'm just sooooo tired!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Akasha on December 02, 2012, 12:50:11 PM
I don't post much here. A few do know me though. I've had a rough few years. I was clean for 6 yrs till I relapsed in Feb 2011, following a rape. He now is in jail for the next 35 yrs. I tried to commit suicide in April 2011 by OD. I was then in rehab for 6.5 months. I got out and still struggled and was admitted to a Psych hospital for 10 months. I now been out for 2 months. I don't do very well this time of year. I don't do well the holiday season or around my birthday. Last Sunday I had a friend of 25 yrs die. He died from a head injury after refusing to get on the gurney to the ambulance. He said he would walk out and fell and hit his head. I haven't seen him before I went to rehab.

This past week was been a very bad one for me. I had Opana on me Tuesday night and RJ yelled at me, no he cussed me out. I've barely ate this week(part of my rehab include treatment for an eating disorder), or slept. I had another good friend call me yesterday to tell me to get my shit together or my Mom was going to have me readmitted. I can't refuse if she does since you has medical guardianship over me still.

I just need to stay out of hospitals. I'm just not sure if I can though.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on December 03, 2012, 05:43:06 PM
Shit :(

Of course hospitals are not where anyone wants to be, but if you're endangering yourself by not eating, etc. I of course don't blame your mom for wanting to make a decision like that.

Sorry you are having such a hard time.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on December 03, 2012, 06:06:21 PM
I don't post much here. A few do know me though. I've had a rough few years. I was clean for 6 yrs till I relapsed in Feb 2011, following a rape. He now is in jail for the next 35 yrs. I tried to commit suicide in April 2011 by OD. I was then in rehab for 6.5 months. I got out and still struggled and was admitted to a Psych hospital for 10 months. I now been out for 2 months. I don't do very well this time of year. I don't do well the holiday season or around my birthday. Last Sunday I had a friend of 25 yrs die. He died from a head injury after refusing to get on the gurney to the ambulance. He said he would walk out and fell and hit his head. I haven't seen him before I went to rehab.

This past week was been a very bad one for me. I had Opana on me Tuesday night and RJ yelled at me, no he cussed me out. I've barely ate this week(part of my rehab include treatment for an eating disorder), or slept. I had another good friend call me yesterday to tell me to get my shit together or my Mom was going to have me readmitted. I can't refuse if she does since you has medical guardianship over me still.

I just need to stay out of hospitals. I'm just not sure if I can though.

Don't know much about you, are you seeing a therapist? Not a drug guy, but an actual talk therapist?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Akasha on December 03, 2012, 07:04:40 PM
I don't post much here. A few do know me though. I've had a rough few years. I was clean for 6 yrs till I relapsed in Feb 2011, following a rape. He now is in jail for the next 35 yrs. I tried to commit suicide in April 2011 by OD. I was then in rehab for 6.5 months. I got out and still struggled and was admitted to a Psych hospital for 10 months. I now been out for 2 months. I don't do very well this time of year. I don't do well the holiday season or around my birthday. Last Sunday I had a friend of 25 yrs die. He died from a head injury after refusing to get on the gurney to the ambulance. He said he would walk out and fell and hit his head. I haven't seen him before I went to rehab.

This past week was been a very bad one for me. I had Opana on me Tuesday night and RJ yelled at me, no he cussed me out. I've barely ate this week(part of my rehab include treatment for an eating disorder), or slept. I had another good friend call me yesterday to tell me to get my shit together or my Mom was going to have me readmitted. I can't refuse if she does since you has medical guardianship over me still.

I just need to stay out of hospitals. I'm just not sure if I can though.

Don't know much about you, are you seeing a therapist? Not a drug guy, but an actual talk therapist?

Yes, I see a therapist a few times a week.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on December 03, 2012, 11:05:08 PM
Oh good. Obviously I can't offer any clinical advice since you're not my client, but I'm glad you have a professional who does more than hand you pills.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Akasha on December 04, 2012, 08:19:37 AM
Oh good. Obviously I can't offer any clinical advice since you're not my client, but I'm glad you have a professional who does more than hand you pills.

I do see a psychiatrist as well. I'm bipolar and also suffer from Dissociative Identity Disorder.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Fiery Winds on December 05, 2012, 01:34:11 AM
After reading the past two pages, my problems feel small in comparison.  My thoughts and prayers are with you all.

I lost my job in October due to the company filing for bankruptcy and I've been coasting ever since.  I've been trying to make positive changes, like signing up for a gym and improving my diet, but I feel like I'm wasting away my time. 

I was very lucky to land the job I had with my experience/education and because I only had the job for 6 months, job searching is not going well.  I've thought about going back to school (Engineering MS) to fill in all the gaps from my Industrial Technology BS Degree (pun intended).  But even if I qualify to go to school while also receiving Unemployment Benefits (which I'm currently receiving), my claim wouldn't last as long as the program. 

*Sigh*
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: nightmare_cinema on December 05, 2012, 01:14:02 PM
Fiery Winds, can you not work a part time job alongside studyding? It sounds in your position like going back to school and getting skilled up might be your best bet right now...
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on December 05, 2012, 01:40:41 PM
I've been feeling pretty great for about 2 months now, but I can feel the depression coming back.

Damnit.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ħ on December 05, 2012, 01:42:52 PM
Run. (seriously)

Get high off that dopamine.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on December 05, 2012, 01:44:29 PM
Run. (seriously)

Get high off that dopamine.

Nah. The past 2 months have been me getting high off the work I've been doing on my CD. I'm afraid running away from the problem just isn't going to cut it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Fiery Winds on December 05, 2012, 01:45:53 PM
Fiery Winds, can you not work a part time job alongside studyding? It sounds in your position like going back to school and getting skilled up might be your best bet right now...

Possibly, but it's not likely that working ~20 hours a week will be able to cover my bills and rent.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: nightmare_cinema on December 05, 2012, 01:54:44 PM
That really sucks. Can you get a roommate? Move into a house share situation? I'm doing a full time 2 year placement/teaching based MA atm and having to work around 25 hours at a couple of jobs to just about scrape by in my shared house... the exhaustion sucks at times but at least it's only for the short term.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Fiery Winds on December 05, 2012, 02:09:29 PM
Already have a roommate in the 2 bedroom place we got now, haha.   It's a 1 year lease that ends next June, so we're kinda stuck here, but the price we're paying is actually really good compared to most places in the SF Bay Area.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dr. DTVT on December 06, 2012, 09:28:30 AM
Lonestar is looking for a roommate I hear :eyebrows:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Akasha on December 06, 2012, 11:58:27 AM
Lonestar is looking for a roommate I hear :eyebrows:

That he is.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: snapple on December 07, 2012, 07:52:23 AM
I feel 99.5% paralyzed right now. I spend the .5% of the time I don't feel paralyzed to try and make myself feel better. Not having a job sucks, and there is nothing in this town. I'm not taking my meds because they're too expensive. Also, I've been drinking a lot. Ugh, not a good week.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Akasha on December 07, 2012, 10:45:53 AM
I feel 99.5% paralyzed right now. I spend the .5% of the time I don't feel paralyzed to try and make myself feel better. Not having a job sucks, and there is nothing in this town. I'm not taking my meds because they're too expensive. Also, I've been drinking a lot. Ugh, not a good week.

I'm so sorry that you are still jobless. I know meds are expensive, but found a way to get them. There are companies that will help you or even clinics. I didn't take my meds for a little over a week and I was ready to end it all again. Drinking will just make your depression worse. Hang in there.  :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: carl320 on December 07, 2012, 11:31:41 AM
You know what I hate about feeling depressed?  When I feel like I want to talk about it,  I realize as I'm thinking it that it sounds petty and stupid, especially compared to "real" problems other people have.  I also realize that I'm the reason why I'm in the situation that's causing my depression and I haven't done anything about it.  I try to make myself feel better by saying I have goals to fix the situation but it seems like a lot of other things in my life, where I say I have goals and am going to do something, but they never come to fruition.

/post that really doesn't say anything
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: snapple on December 07, 2012, 11:32:48 AM
You know what I hate about feeling depressed?  When I feel like I want to talk about it,  I realize as I'm thinking it that it sounds petty and stupid, especially compared to "real" problems other people have.  I also realize that I'm the reason why I'm in the situation that's causing my depression and I haven't done anything about it.  I try to make myself feel better by saying I have goals to fix the situation but it seems like a lot of other things in my life, where I say I have goals and am going to do something, but they never come to fruition.

/post that really doesn't say anything

Your problems are never smaller than anyone else's.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ħ on December 12, 2012, 06:42:35 PM
Gotta be honest and vocalize something. I am really falling apart at the seams here.

This quarter at school, I have been a complete bum. I haven't been going to lecture, I haven't been doing my work on time, and now I'm paying the price. It's finals time. I'm trying to work on a take-home final exam for philosophy of mind by going through the lecture slides. It's due tonight at midnight via online submission. Not only that, I have two 5 page papers due in the next two days on subjects I know nothing about. I have become way too arrogant in my work ethic since coming to college. And I don't know how to snap out of it.

Not only that, but over this past year, I fell completely out of shape. I didn't work out and ate really bad. I gained about 5% body fat and feel terrible and groggy. I tried running but I pulled my hamstring. I want more than anything to be where I was four years ago.

Lastly, I am very sure I have developed major self-destructive tendencies. I sleep way too much (more than 10 hours on average), stay in bed on the computer for probably 3 hours a day, and hide away from people when I see them. Even here on these forums, I've noticed that my posts have gotten meaner compared to when I first joined. I have resorted to talking to myself on lonely walks and bike rides. I can't take it. I have definitely changed over these past few years for the worse, and I desperately need to snap out of it. And now I'm spewing my guts all over the internet to anonymous people I don't really know. But I gotta get out of here.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lateralus88 on December 12, 2012, 06:46:08 PM
Don't feel bad about talking to yourself, it's something many people do (happy or sad). I do it all the fucking time, and I'm a pretty happy human being (though I mean, I'm fucking weird and batshit nutty so whatever).


It's easy to fall in a slump, and hard to get out. But think of both what is at stake *cough*yourwellbeing* and the rewards to working towards bettering yourself and your everyday habits.


Lastly, https://www.reddit.com/r/howtonotgiveafuck
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cyclopssss on December 13, 2012, 01:41:02 AM
Man, I've been complete fucking interviews with myself for most of my life. It's ridiculous, but I don't think I'm going insane or anything. As long as you talk to some real people on a  regular basis, you'll probably be alright.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Akasha on December 13, 2012, 11:29:24 AM
So fuckin pissed off at the world today and very pissed at myself.  >:(
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Post by: wolfandwolfandwolf on December 13, 2012, 05:01:01 PM
So fuckin pissed off at the world today and very pissed at myself.  >:(
This, this, this, this, this. Not feeling it today.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Akasha on December 13, 2012, 10:22:50 PM
 :'(
So fuckin pissed off at the world today and very pissed at myself.  >:(
This, this, this, this, this. Not feeling it today.

 :'(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Super Dude on December 16, 2012, 07:49:20 AM
My brother in high school is failing almost all of his classes. I know it's not really my business if he doesn't care to do better, but it's really frustrating because I'm really worried about him. He could end up being the only one of us who doesn't go to college.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Akasha on December 20, 2012, 11:33:19 AM
A few days okay The Mirror brought me to tears. It was the first time that song brought me to tears. I'm just not sure how my friends did forgive me after all I have put them through the last few years. All my drug use and hospitalizations, suicide attempts, cutting, starving myself, and breaking many promises.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: toro on December 20, 2012, 12:17:58 PM
So I took a test at school, and I have all the signs of a depressed person. But I really don't feel bad or anything, I just feel the same way I have always felt in my life.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on December 20, 2012, 12:18:32 PM
So I took a test at school, and I have all the signs of a depressed person. But I really don't feel bad or anything, I just feel the same way I have always felt in my life.

Then ignore the test results. Trust me.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: toro on December 20, 2012, 12:25:28 PM
So I took a test at school, and I have all the signs of a depressed person. But I really don't feel bad or anything, I just feel the same way I have always felt in my life.

Then ignore the test results. Trust me.
Oh I do ignore them, but that still made me wonder  how I can come across to some people. I mean, I'm not the most upbeat person, in fact I'm kind of an old sould on a young body kind of guy. Still that made me wonder if I look depressed to some people.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: carl320 on December 21, 2012, 09:51:36 PM
Well it's been a night.  My ex-wife (with whom I'm still really close friends) is suicidal.  I've been texting and talking to her and she went to the ER.  Well, they're going to commit her for a day and this is making things worse for her.  I'm really worried.  I don't know what I can do since I live 4 hours away.  I'm glad I've been able to help her so far, but I don't know what else I can do.  It seems like it's counterproductive to commit someone who's suicidal; it doesn't help to get to the problem.  I can see it being partly to protect her and to let her try and sleep on it, but in the morning she's going to feel worse, thinking that she's ruined Christmas for everyone  :|  I'm going to call her tomorrow to see how she feels.

I just needed this off my chest.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dr. DTVT on December 23, 2012, 04:22:32 PM
I've come to the conclusion that it will be easier to hate most people than hate myself, so society can fuck off.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on December 23, 2012, 04:48:40 PM
Quite depressed. Damn heartache.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dr. DTVT on December 23, 2012, 05:28:55 PM
Right there with ya Jew buddy
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on December 23, 2012, 07:30:02 PM
So yeah - 2012 has been one of the most depressing years I can remember.

Only really got better this past month.

Hey ho - Pip & Dandy etc.   :sadpanda:

At least I survived the apocalypse. That's Something.  :laugh:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: carl320 on December 24, 2012, 01:51:01 AM
So yeah - 2012 has been one of the most depressing years I can remember.

I agree :sadpanda:

I think 2013 will be a break out year for me (I have some goals that can possibly be attained, so I'm hopeful).
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wkiml on December 26, 2012, 07:57:51 AM
2012 can't end soon enough for me

Mom's has been in the hospital for 2 weeks now ( lungs are failing from Chemotherapy received 35 years ago and smoking) She has been moving back and forth between a regualr room and CCU

Saturday she was conherent enough to express to the doctors treating her she wanted to sign a DNR

Been making treks almost daily from work (Manhattan) to the hospital (Brooklyn) than back home (New Jersey)

One day she's fine the next it seems like she's on her death bed , doctors have been no help other than telling us to hope for the best but be prepared for the worst.

I appreciate their bluntness and having been through this earlier in the year with my ex-wife I'm kind of calloused to everything . My sister has been an absolute wreck and only makes things worse by not facing the facts , that mom will be leaving us soon.

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on December 26, 2012, 12:18:40 PM
Oh man... sorry to hear about your Mom, Bill. :(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on December 26, 2012, 02:08:04 PM
Shit man, that sucks largely.  It's been a rough haul for you this year for sure.  Hope things start looking up soon for you and the boys.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: nightmare_cinema on December 28, 2012, 06:55:00 AM
2012 can't end soon enough for me

Mom's has been in the hospital for 2 weeks now ( lungs are failing from Chemotherapy received 35 years ago and smoking) She has been moving back and forth between a regualr room and CCU

Saturday she was conherent enough to express to the doctors treating her she wanted to sign a DNR

Been making treks almost daily from work (Manhattan) to the hospital (Brooklyn) than back home (New Jersey)

One day she's fine the next it seems like she's on her death bed , doctors have been no help other than telling us to hope for the best but be prepared for the worst.

I appreciate their bluntness and having been through this earlier in the year with my ex-wife I'm kind of calloused to everything . My sister has been an absolute wreck and only makes things worse by not facing the facts , that mom will be leaving us soon.

I'm really sorry to hear about your Mom, bud. When I lost mine I was in a similar position to you, I was on the edge of accepting it and calm, but my brother was a total wreck who just couldn't face up to it. It's really horrible when you know it's coming, but don't know when. So many heartbreaks and traumas on top of each other do eventually numb and desensitise you to the heartache I think. Don't feel bad about being calloused. I hope the situation resolves itself somehow soon and that you're going to be okay.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: nightmare_cinema on December 28, 2012, 06:59:31 AM
2012 has been mental... I've spent months of it on morphine patches off my face, nearly lost my job, changed careers by starting a full time MA, had my heart broken out of the blue by someone who I thought I was gonna be with forever, moved house twice (once overnight against my will), become estranged from my sociopath brother, spent weeks on tenterhooks awaiting a court case that came very close to having serious repercussions, and spent too much time really sick in and out of the doctors' surgery and hospital...

I JUST WISH FOR A DULL, MUNDANE, BORING, AVERAGE, NORMAL 2013
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on December 28, 2012, 07:00:54 AM
Hope you get your wish Faye.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: nightmare_cinema on December 28, 2012, 07:01:59 AM
Thank you x

I always feel like it looks as though I make half of the shit up about my life :P
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wkiml on December 28, 2012, 07:49:52 PM
Those of you who are my friends on facebook already are aware, but for those that aren't my mom passed Wednesday night. My sister,brother and I were with her most of the evening. We had just stepped out of the room when she left us. I guess she didn't want to pass in our presence. While my brother and sister grieve I am taking a different approach  my mom had her last rites read to her 40 years ago. She managed thru the grace of God to beat her disease. I choose  to cherisb the fact that I was able to enjoy her love and guidance for another 40 years.She was my hero my friend my mentor. Mom rest in peace and know that everything you have taught me I am passing down to.my children
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Akasha on December 28, 2012, 09:31:51 PM
So sorry to the news.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: nightmare_cinema on December 29, 2012, 12:19:17 AM
wkiml, I'm so so sorry to hear of your Mom passing. I think it says a lot about your relationship that you're trying/choosing to focus on everything she gave you during her life, and how you can carry that on to your own family. Grief is a really crazy and horrible thing that can take many, many months to sort through. I wrote in a blog when I lost my mum, getting it out onto the page meant I could let it go from my head for a little while and really helped, and is interesting to look back on, just something you might wanna consider someday if it's a struggle for you. All my thoughts and love n shit x
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wkiml on January 02, 2013, 09:35:09 AM
Akasha/Nightmare and those that sent PM's   thank you for your kind words they are much appreciated

2012 was a terrible year all around...looking forward to more positive things in 2013
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Akasha on January 03, 2013, 11:59:03 AM
Akasha/Nightmare and those that sent PM's   thank you for your kind words they are much appreciated

2012 was a terrible year all around...looking forward to more positive things in 2013

You are welcome.  :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Akasha on January 03, 2013, 12:14:06 PM
2013 has not started out the best. Monday a police officer who was a regular customer were I work at died in a fiery crash while on his way to another accident. He died at intersection where I work at.  Now on to Monday, a women I use to work with messaged me and asked me if I heard about another women we use to work with died? Not sure when she died, but she left 2 teenagers behind. She had a heart attack. Now on to yesterday, my Mom texted me while at work and told me my great uncle died on 12/28. He was 92. So yeah 2013 has started out with a bang from hell.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wkiml on January 03, 2013, 12:17:20 PM
wow...so sorry to hear about all this in such a short period of time . Sometime life seems so unfair.

My greatest fear is my own mortality, being a single dad of 3 teenage boys, I have no idea what they would do if something were to happen to me
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lonestar on January 03, 2013, 12:23:01 PM
2013 has not started out the best. Monday a police officer who was a regular customer were I work at died in a fiery crash while on his way to another accident. He died at intersection where I work at.  Now on to Monday, a women I use to work with messaged me and asked me if I heard about another women we use to work with died? Not sure when she died, but she left 2 teenagers behind. She had a heart attack. Now on to yesterday, my Mom texted me while at work and told me my great uncle died on 12/28. He was 92. So yeah 2013 has started out with a bang from hell.

I'm there for you of course. My year has started off like a piece of ass also. Somehow in sobriety, I can fuck up relationships just as bad as I did drunk as fuck, resulting in severely pissing off my best friend. Guess the problem does lie in me, not in the bottle. Lots of meetings are in my future, and a possible re-doing of the steps, gotta get this shit together.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on January 03, 2013, 08:55:55 PM
Guys/gal... I'm not trying to dampen the hurt here, but death happens every day.  We ALL are born to die - it's just a question of where and when.  Not saying that it doesn't suck, either, but the people who've passed on don't have to deal with suffering/pain/disease/emotional hurt...
 
As for loney - dude, I sometimes think I'm that broken too.  Not much I can say except to hang in there.
 
That goes for all of the rest of you folks too, actually - believe it or not, there IS a point to all of this... shit we deal with on a daily basis.  Don't let it bring you to its level.
 
 :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Akasha on January 03, 2013, 10:05:00 PM
Guys/gal... I'm not trying to dampen the hurt here, but death happens every day.  We ALL are born to die - it's just a question of where and when.  Not saying that it doesn't suck, either, but the people who've passed on don't have to deal with suffering/pain/disease/emotional hurt...
 
As for loney - dude, I sometimes think I'm that broken too.  Not much I can say except to hang in there.
 
That goes for all of the rest of you folks too, actually - believe it or not, there IS a point to all of this... shit we deal with on a daily basis.  Don't let it bring you to its level.
 
 :heart


Yes we all are born to die. I think I'm actually handling better then I expected myself too. Had some desire to use, but said fuck it isn't worth it. Today we donated food to feed all the officers today. We did feed all the officers and emergency workers working the accident Monday as well. Just part of being a service to others.

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on January 03, 2013, 10:33:11 PM
That's good, and DAMN good that you didn't succumb to the internal pressure to use.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: El Barto on January 03, 2013, 10:47:52 PM
Guys/gal... I'm not trying to dampen the hurt here, but death happens every day.  We ALL are born to die - it's just a question of where and when.  Not saying that it doesn't suck, either, but the people who've passed on don't have to deal with suffering/pain/disease/emotional hurt...
Quite a bit of death going on 'round here.  I've seen/am seeing two starkly different ones.

On Christmas morning, my stepfather took a header down a flight of stairs. Family gathering around to open presents when he made a sudden and fatal entrance.  Happened at the family of his inlaws, so he didn't even get to have Christmas with his own kids. Lots of people really fucked by the suddenness of the whole thing.

Then there's the dad of a very dear friend. Her old man is in the final days of brain cancer. While I couldn't well explain it to her, the pragmatist in me recognizes the stark contrast in the two situations, and in as far as the death of a parent can go, her's is a pretty favorable scenario.  He only found out 2 weeks ago.  His quality of life is currently still good. He gets to spend his last weeks with his family, and vice versa, and he doesn't have a long, drawn out losing battle in front of him. I know how close she is with him, and she's still losing a parent, but getting a two week period of fond farewells and such really beats the living shit out of a phone call saying Dad won't be home for Christmas. 
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Post by: DebraKadabra on January 03, 2013, 11:12:29 PM
I wasn't trying to diminish the normal feelings surrounding death - don't get me wrong, and I've had my problems with it over the years but... it just comes to a point that when your number is up...
 
But, at the same time, I hope I'm not coming off as unsympathetic.
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Post by: r0cken on January 04, 2013, 02:54:16 AM
Sorry to barge in... Just wanted to ask. How do you cope with separation from people you love? And I don't mean really difficult things like death or divorce or parting with a lover.

I have this scenario in my life that repeats itself over and over. I get to know a person, we become friends, I become attached. And then after a while they have to leave (change of town/country/job/whatever). And I never see them again. Occasional facebook chats don't count of course. Long distance friendship just doesn't really work. Not for me at least.
And I get a little depressed every time. I mean, how many people who could be my friends, and make me a happier person, pass through my life and disappear almost without a trace.  :'(

Just had to complain... Any silly, overused inspirational quotes are welcome.
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Post by: Adami on January 04, 2013, 03:25:45 AM
I know this probably won't help and will likely just come off as cold (I have that tendency it seems) but I ascribe to the Buddhist philosophy of impermanence (to the best of my ability anyway). Basically it just means you don't get very attached to anything or anyone and go in knowing that nothing lasts forever in the cold november rain. I know it's difficult without many many years of work, but it came naturally to me and thus it doesn't affect me greatly when stuff like that happens. Hell, I've lost countless friends over the years and family members, but because I naturally think the way I just described, it doesn't bother me a whole lot. It's like realizing you're constantly in motion. You will pass  things by, and other things might take a different path. But your path is ever moving and ever evolving. It's just a matter of exploring where you are now, and not worrying much about where you were.

I have a feeling none of that helped though. :(
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Post by: r0cken on January 04, 2013, 03:52:07 AM
That's actually a great philosophy, if you're able to pull it off. Yeah, nothing lasts forever, I know it. I just wish it could... I don't even believe in God or heaven or reincarnation, so that chapter is also closed for me.

But even with that knowledge, I sometimes think maybe the joy of close relationships (of any kind) actually worth the pain of inevitable separation. Not that it makes it easier, no...
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Post by: Adami on January 04, 2013, 10:22:14 AM
That's actually a great philosophy, if you're able to pull it off. Yeah, nothing lasts forever, I know it. I just wish it could... I don't even believe in God or heaven or reincarnation, so that chapter is also closed for me.

But even with that knowledge, I sometimes think maybe the joy of close relationships (of any kind) actually worth the pain of inevitable separation. Not that it makes it easier, no...

Well luckily you can follow Buddhist philosophies without any belief in anything.

As far as the second part goes, I probably should have elaborated. Having no attachments doesn't mean keeping people at a distance or not enjoying them to the full extent that you can. It just means you don't define yourself as you + them.
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Post by: Akasha on January 04, 2013, 10:08:12 PM
Doing okay today. This was very powerful though.

https://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fsoundcloud.com%2Fmike-adel%2Fofficer-yung-end-of-watch&h=uAQG4LLPC


His funeral was today and to see that many officers going down the road and the people who lined the streets during the funeral procession was very moving.
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Post by: lonestar on January 04, 2013, 10:42:16 PM

Yes we all are born to die. I think I'm actually handling better then I expected myself too. Had some desire to use, but said fuck it isn't worth it. Today we donated food to feed all the officers today. We did feed all the officers and emergency workers working the accident Monday as well. Just part of being a service to others.

We give it away to keep it. Nice work dear.  :tup
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Post by: Ħ on January 04, 2013, 11:00:41 PM
I think I've narrowed down a major cause of my depression - junk food. Last week, I ate nothing bad, and I didn't feel down a single time. Yesterday, I totally binged and ate fried chicken, M&M's, popcorn, and pizza, and I felt terrible ever since. Then I went running and now I'm moderately happy again. :)
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Post by: lonestar on January 04, 2013, 11:02:38 PM
It's amazing how much diet ties into our moods. In my chemical dependancy classes, we had whole segments on diet.
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Post by: bout to crash on January 05, 2013, 04:05:52 AM
Very true. I've been trying to pay more attention to my diet, partially for that reason (and partially because I've put on too many pounds recently).

I'm very sorry to see all the loss people are experiencing, and just general shittiness.

I found out yesterday morning that one of my friends in NJ had what looks to be an aneurysm rupture or something along those lines. Sharp pain in her head, collapsed, had a minor heart attack, and then lots of brain bleeding. Last I heard, she was still unresponsive and several neurosurgeons gave a prognosis of "not a fucking thing we can do." Since it's a pretty shitty hospital, her family was seeing about whether a transfer was possible, but I'm not sure if any decision was reached.

My gut feeling is that she is not going to come back from this, and I've been trying hard all day not to break down so I can function and do my job/be a person who isn't a total downer. Of course I failed at both of these things- went home early, didn't finish my work, and spent the second half of my gathering with friends basically sitting in a corner and not drinking nearly enough to stop thinking.

So yeah, keep my friend and her family (she has two kids in their twenties) in your thoughts. I hate being so far away... not that I could do anything, but it would be nice to be there with her family and our mutual friends, who have been sitting by her side all day.
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Post by: DebraKadabra on January 05, 2013, 04:39:04 AM
That's just... I have no words.
:hug:
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Post by: Akasha on January 05, 2013, 10:18:02 AM
Very true. I've been trying to pay more attention to my diet, partially for that reason (and partially because I've put on too many pounds recently).

I'm very sorry to see all the loss people are experiencing, and just general shittiness.

I found out yesterday morning that one of my friends in NJ had what looks to be an aneurysm rupture or something along those lines. Sharp pain in her head, collapsed, had a minor heart attack, and then lots of brain bleeding. Last I heard, she was still unresponsive and several neurosurgeons gave a prognosis of "not a fucking thing we can do." Since it's a pretty shitty hospital, her family was seeing about whether a transfer was possible, but I'm not sure if any decision was reached.

My gut feeling is that she is not going to come back from this, and I've been trying hard all day not to break down so I can function and do my job/be a person who isn't a total downer. Of course I failed at both of these things- went home early, didn't finish my work, and spent the second half of my gathering with friends basically sitting in a corner and not drinking nearly enough to stop thinking.

So yeah, keep my friend and her family (she has two kids in their twenties) in your thoughts. I hate being so far away... not that I could do anything, but it would be nice to be there with her family and our mutual friends, who have been sitting by her side all day.


So sorry I have no words for you either.
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Post by: lonestar on January 05, 2013, 10:29:07 AM
Love and prayers for you guys Jackie.
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Post by: bout to crash on January 05, 2013, 03:32:18 PM
Thanks, y'all. As of now they seem to be having trouble getting her vitals stable and she has fluid in her lungs, but they're still talking to more doctors.
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Post by: bout to crash on January 06, 2013, 12:52:28 PM
Organ donation time  :-[
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Post by: King Postwhore on January 06, 2013, 12:53:55 PM
So sorry Jackie.  My good thought are with your friend.
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Post by: lonestar on January 06, 2013, 01:34:50 PM
I'm so sorry Jackie. :'(
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Post by: Akasha on January 06, 2013, 03:25:18 PM
So sorry.
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Post by: bout to crash on January 06, 2013, 03:29:21 PM
Thanks. Today is one of the worst days I've had in a while.
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Post by: Cyclopssss on January 07, 2013, 01:34:27 AM
Damn...VERY sorry to hear this, Jackie....hang in there. Also, to everyone else in this thread: cheer up, we're all here together.
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Post by: wkiml on January 07, 2013, 06:13:17 AM
Jackie sorry for what you are going through....its never easy...remember the good times you had together and that they will always be with you in your heart
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Post by: nightmare_cinema on January 07, 2013, 08:38:30 AM
I'm so sorry Jackie. Keeping you/her in my thoughts, fingers crossed.

Sorry to barge in... Just wanted to ask. How do you cope with separation from people you love? And I don't mean really difficult things like death or divorce or parting with a lover.

I have this scenario in my life that repeats itself over and over. I get to know a person, we become friends, I become attached. And then after a while they have to leave (change of town/country/job/whatever). And I never see them again. Occasional facebook chats don't count of course. Long distance friendship just doesn't really work. Not for me at least.
And I get a little depressed every time. I mean, how many people who could be my friends, and make me a happier person, pass through my life and disappear almost without a trace.  :'(

Just had to complain... Any silly, overused inspirational quotes are welcome.

Interesting, I find that the best friendships withstand physical separation and time delays in between hanging out/speaking. The true friends are the ones where you can not see them or hear from them for a few months and then you catch up like nothing happened. I'd recommend making as many friends as possible, some friendships will grow and deepen and some will stay at a more superficial level, but the more friends you have, the less likely you're gonna be focused on the one that moves away, waiting to hear from them etc. You need to get/keep busy with your own life so that when you hear from them you're happy, but you're not stressing over it. Plus if it ever comes across as neediness, well that's offputting to a lot of people.

Also, I tend to try and be thankful for the time I spent with someone even if I don't stay close to them... easier said than done. Are these people in your life responsible for the majority of your happiness do you think? I find if you're a happy rounded person in yourself, friendships come more easily... not sure why.
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Post by: lonestar on January 07, 2013, 08:42:15 AM
Thank you Faye, that helped me a lot. :tup
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Post by: Dr. DTVT on January 07, 2013, 12:07:59 PM
I'm going to echo what Faye said.  I moved to the middle of nowhere, far from everyone I ever knew for grad school first, and more recently a job.  I've known my best friend since I was 5 in 1984.  We haven't lived in the same town since 1997 save for a brief period of time in 2003 when I was waiting to start grad school.  I only see my closest friends once a year, twice if I'm lucky.  It's always a great time, and with facebook and all the other goofy things modern technology allows, we never truely have to lose touch.  That said, I highly advise against doing what I did unless they throw large piles of money at you.
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Post by: bout to crash on January 07, 2013, 07:20:29 PM
Amen to all of that. I was just having the same discussion with one of my best friends in NJ (a mutual friend of the person we just lost)... our connections really do transcend space/time. We concluded that we are magic :)
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Post by: DebraKadabra on January 07, 2013, 07:26:26 PM
Interesting, I find that the best friendships withstand physical separation and time delays in between hanging out/speaking. The true friends are the ones where you can not see them or hear from them for a few months and then you catch up like nothing happened. I'd recommend making as many friends as possible, some friendships will grow and deepen and some will stay at a more superficial level, but the more friends you have, the less likely you're gonna be focused on the one that moves away, waiting to hear from them etc. You need to get/keep busy with your own life so that when you hear from them you're happy, but you're not stressing over it. Plus if it ever comes across as neediness, well that's offputting to a lot of people.

Also, I tend to try and be thankful for the time I spent with someone even if I don't stay close to them... easier said than done. Are these people in your life responsible for the majority of your happiness do you think? I find if you're a happy rounded person in yourself, friendships come more easily... not sure why.

:clap: :hefdaddy
 
*beaming good vibes/positive healing energy to Jackie/NJ friend*
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Post by: bout to crash on January 08, 2013, 08:13:17 AM
Thanks.. she is gone, now I'm trying to figure out if I can make it to her wake Thursday :(
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 08, 2013, 09:05:00 AM
Thanks.. she is gone, now I'm trying to figure out if I can make it to her wake Thursday :(

sorry to hear that Jackie.

:hug:
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Post by: Dr. DTVT on January 08, 2013, 12:14:54 PM
Sorry to hear about Jackie.  I hope you can find a way to Jersey so you can get closure/peace/healing.
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Post by: DebraKadabra on January 11, 2013, 05:16:52 PM
Thanks.. she is gone, now I'm trying to figure out if I can make it to her wake Thursday :(

Sorry I'm just now seeing this, Jackie... words are not adequate. :hug:
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Post by: Akasha on January 12, 2013, 08:54:24 AM
Had another damn fuckin nightmare this morning! I hate them so much. I just fuckin wish they would end, but it doesn't seem they will. I've been having them for over 10 yrs now. I don't think they ever will end till I'm dead.
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Post by: Cyclopssss on January 14, 2013, 12:51:46 AM
Lots of strength, Jackie.  :'(
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Post by: philmcson on January 14, 2013, 03:54:49 AM
I have some kind of weird mood swings these days. For a few hours I am happy and smiling and randomly laughing (such as when remembering some special funny or great situations, but also if I have some great conversation with friends or strangers at the grocery store) and then, often in the evening, my mood swings into some light depression and I wish I had a gf to cuddle and hug.

Yesterday it was especially strange when described mood swings occured every hour - went to the baker in the morning and couldn't help but giggle so that even the cab drivers were staring in disbelief at me from their cars. One hour later, I was totally blue, just laid down on my bed and imagined a perfect girl that would hug me from behind...... phew, God knows what will happen next....
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Post by: bout to crash on January 14, 2013, 08:33:31 AM
Is that a new thing for you?

And thanks to everyone for all the support. Was able to make it back for the wake and spend some awesome time with friends, see our friends' band play, etc. It was well worth it...
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Post by: philmcson on January 14, 2013, 06:28:30 PM
Well, I often giggle randomly when I remember hilarious occasions, but the fast switches are a bit weird, I think....
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Post by: Akasha on January 14, 2013, 10:57:00 PM
Tired of having panic attacks! All I want to do is go to fuckin sleep and it sets off a damn panic attack.
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Post by: bout to crash on January 15, 2013, 09:35:54 AM
Trying to go to sleep?? That's weird. Panic attacks suck :(
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Post by: Akasha on January 16, 2013, 12:16:40 PM
Trying to go to sleep?? That's weird. Panic attacks suck :(

Yes, I have panic attacks when I lay down to go to sleep. Not strange for me.
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Post by: r0cken on January 17, 2013, 08:05:12 AM
Also, I tend to try and be thankful for the time I spent with someone even if I don't stay close to them... easier said than done. Are these people in your life responsible for the majority of your happiness do you think? I find if you're a happy rounded person in yourself, friendships come more easily... not sure why.
Yeah, trying to being thankful for the time given, is a good thing. I always try to think that way.
Sadly, I'm not a very self-content person, so I do depend on others in that department. Good relationships always make me happy. I'm not good at being alone.


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Tired of having panic attacks! All I want to do is go to fuckin sleep and it sets off a damn panic attack.
Used to keep a playlist of happy songs, funny videos, a list of jokes and some breathing exercises, just in case a panic attack kicks in. At night - reading myself to sleep helped, or having music playing at a low volume, preferably with lyrics I can concentrate on, until I fall asleep.
But I guess those prone to panic attacks already know all this, and have their own bag of tricks.
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Post by: Dr. DTVT on January 17, 2013, 09:16:28 AM
Maybe you should play Panic Attack before bed, get it out of the way :neverusethis:
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Post by: Elite on January 20, 2013, 02:38:54 PM
For God's sake, why won't my heater get warm? I've been home for almost 7 hours now and only the top half of the radiator is warm, the bottom half is still very cold. My room is freezing and it's fucking annoying. I've never had anything like this before with this particular radiator, usually it heats up in no time. It doesn't reeally help that it's minus 4 outside, but still. /rant
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Post by: wkiml on January 22, 2013, 06:00:07 AM
For God's sake, why won't my heater get warm? I've been home for almost 7 hours now and only the top half of the radiator is warm, the bottom half is still very cold. My room is freezing and it's fucking annoying. I've never had anything like this before with this particular radiator, usually it heats up in no time. It doesn't reeally help that it's minus 4 outside, but still. /rant


Hot water ?

Radiator may need to be bleed....if there is air in there, it will not completely heat up

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Post by: wkiml on January 22, 2013, 06:56:18 AM
Have not been feeling myself lately, constant fatigue  body aches ( not those associated with an illness) vertigo etc etc

went to the doctor yesterday

Heart all good
Lungs all good
Blood pressure all good

Took some blood work..should havet he results in a few day

Gave me an anti-anxiety/depression medication to help me with stress and sleep...holy shit this stuff through me for a loop....fell asleep 8pm...felt like I was out for hours  when I rolled over and look at the clock it was only 10 pm this went on all night...deep deep sleep but waking up every 30-40 minutes or so

Called the doc this morning, its a side effect of the medication and may take 2 weeks plus for my body to get accustomed to the meds  also set me up for a sleep study I was diagnoised with sleep apnea years ago, he wants to make sure it hasn't gotten worse

I couldn't deal with the C-pap machine last time around I may have no option this time
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Post by: snapple on January 22, 2013, 01:25:00 PM
been unemployed for nearly 8 weeks. I've been applying every where, calling everywhere  and no one has even called back. Trying my best to stay positive, but it's getting harder.
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Post by: wkiml on January 22, 2013, 02:27:24 PM
keep your head up...keep looking...keep collecting unemployment if your eligible

I was out of work for a year between 2009-2010....i was fortunate enough to have about a years salary saved away but watching that balance go down week after week month after month had me a wreck before I got the call
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Post by: bout to crash on January 22, 2013, 05:14:59 PM
Sorry to hear that, snapple :(
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Post by: Super Dude on January 23, 2013, 04:34:40 PM
My brother is heading toward being a high school dropout, and he really doesn't seem to care. I know it's really none of my business and it's up to him to act or not act, but my dad has started to threaten to kick him out and totally cut him off when he turns 18, and it really scares me that he can't see down that road.
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Post by: Dark Castle on January 23, 2013, 06:52:13 PM
Made my mom cry. That's never something that makes me feel good :( didn't mean to
It also kinda scares me, even to this day, just because its something she never does
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Post by: bout to crash on January 23, 2013, 11:22:33 PM
 :(

What happened?

My brother is heading toward being a high school dropout, and he really doesn't seem to care. I know it's really none of my business and it's up to him to act or not act, but my dad has started to threaten to kick him out and totally cut him off when he turns 18, and it really scares me that he can't see down that road.

Well it is your business since he's your brother, but he does ultimately have to learn the lesson for himself. What has been going on with him?
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Post by: Dark Castle on January 23, 2013, 11:36:27 PM
She's been on the wire recently because she's been making the house ready for sale for the move to Tampa, and today jus wasn't her day. Everyone was leaving a mess upstairs and I'd forgotten a shirt I'd left on the coffee table, she shouted at me, I kind of shouted back because it was just something that slipped from my mind, and she just broke down in front of me.
ALL of my younger siblings just stared at me with "what should we do?" Faces  :sadpanda:
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Post by: Super Dude on January 24, 2013, 04:42:46 AM
:(

What happened?

My brother is heading toward being a high school dropout, and he really doesn't seem to care. I know it's really none of my business and it's up to him to act or not act, but my dad has started to threaten to kick him out and totally cut him off when he turns 18, and it really scares me that he can't see down that road.

Well it is your business since he's your brother, but he does ultimately have to learn the lesson for himself. What has been going on with him?

My parents went to a PTA meeting yesterday, and the teachers have all said that the work he does turn in is A work, but the problem is he doesn't turn in his work, so he gets Es on everything. If he keeps this up and his grades keep declining, he'll probably graduate, but he definitely won't be going to college. And if that happens, he's gonna be cut off and kicked out.
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Post by: bout to crash on January 24, 2013, 08:12:48 AM
Well, not sure if this is any consolation but I'm one of those kids who spent my last two years of high school completely not giving a shit, and now I have a Master's.

I was really depressed at the end of high school, to the point where I was doing the bare minimum and never showing up. I was late almost every day, and I had about three times as many absences as you were "allowed" to have. I barely graduated, but ended up getting into a few colleges anyway because my previous grades were good, and they also just weren't difficult schools to get into. I ended up doing really well in undergrad, and then getting into almost every grad school I applied to.
So it's not completely hopeless, but of course he does have to make it through. Is he in his last year or what?
Seems like he has stuff he needs to get sorted out before he goes to college, though (if that's what he wants). I ended up taking a year off to do just that myself, since I was still in a pretty shitty place when I started.
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Post by: MetalMike06 on January 24, 2013, 08:49:37 AM
What is his GPA expected to be upon graduation?
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Post by: Dr. DTVT on January 24, 2013, 09:24:38 AM
I really wish people would put so much pressure on kids to go to college under the threat that they won't amount to anything if they don't.  There are a lot of important jobs that don't require a formal education.  Part of the reason no one wants to work anymore is because of the negative connotation connected to many jobs that don't require post-secondary education.
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Post by: snapple on January 24, 2013, 09:26:53 AM
Community colleges wont look at your HS GPA and give a chance to get a good GPA for universities.
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Post by: MetalMike06 on January 24, 2013, 10:35:45 AM
Community colleges wont look at your HS GPA and give a chance to get a good GPA for universities.

Yep, why I was wondering about the GPA. Most typical state colleges require just a 2.0 to get in (or a certain SAT/ACT score). So SuperDude if your bro happens to have lower than that, he can still just go to community college for a year or two and get a better GPA. Yeah, maybe he won't be going to an ivy-league school right out of high school but that's obviously quite a longshot from not going to college period. I didn't care too much in HS either but it still wasn't hard to get into college.
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Post by: MetalMike06 on January 24, 2013, 10:48:50 AM
I really wish people would put so much pressure on kids to go to college under the threat that they won't amount to anything if they don't.  There are a lot of important jobs that don't require a formal education.  Part of the reason no one wants to work anymore is because of the negative connotation connected to many jobs that don't require post-secondary education.

I also kinda think the notion that 'everybody needs to go to college no matter what' is also the reason why more and more employers are requiring degrees for jobs that might not really necessitate them. That pool of graduates is just gonna keep getting bigger.
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Post by: Dr. DTVT on January 24, 2013, 12:59:56 PM
And they are doing a disservice to them.  Getting an education, for most people, costs money.  Employers also like to ask for the moon when hiring so they can try to keep only the best from applying, and also as a negotiation ploy for offering a lower salary.

But we as Americans need to recalibrate what it means to be successful to a more sociometric scale.
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Post by: Jarlaxle on January 24, 2013, 04:48:15 PM
And school just isn't for everyone. I have had almost all of my past teachers tell me I'm the smartest kid they ever taught, but I don't like school and all and don't try as hard as I should. I tried university for a couple years, and at the entry level classes I still got really good grades without trying, but the senior level classes I just didn't have the work ethic for it because I never had to work at it before. None of my past teachers understand how I had to drop out, but there's a big difference between being smart and being able to use your smarts effectively.

But now I just get to laugh at everyone who has told me I won't amount to anything without going to school because I have a great job working for a friend of mine where it looks like I will make 70-80 thousand this year, having fun and not having a huge student loan.
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Post by: Super Dude on January 24, 2013, 04:56:28 PM
What kinda work are you doing?
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Post by: Jarlaxle on January 24, 2013, 07:42:36 PM
I put vinyl siding up on new houses. Physically it is super easy, and I get paid by how much I get done, so I can work as hard as I want to one day, or take off early and go play golf or something.
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Post by: MajorMatt on January 25, 2013, 10:00:34 PM
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Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: r0cken on January 28, 2013, 04:13:22 AM
Nothing important, just really don't feel like working today. Feel like smashing the phone with a sledgehammer every time it rings.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wkiml on January 29, 2013, 12:22:55 PM
Doctor took me off the anxiety/depression meds...they were completely fucking with my chemical balance in my brain....was told it would take a few days until the shit is out of my system

As someone with a previous chemical dependancy issue, why do doctors prescribe more meds?  never made sense to me

Blood work came back better than ever, seems my liver is finally functioning normally after 30+ years of abuse :tup

Doc wants me to lose 20 lbs in 12 weeks otherwise he recommends lap-band surgery....looks like it rabbit food for me the next 3 months
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on January 29, 2013, 04:54:39 PM
I think everyone on here knows I 'm a moody old c---  :)

2012 was just a horrible, horrible year.

2009 and 2004 were also nightmarish.

This kinda thing really drags you down over time. *

I get extremely bad winter depression and the worst shit always seems to happen around then too.

My bro reckons I should see a GP about getting some depression medication but I don't want to just take pills to feel false happiness.





* This Kinda thing meaning : Insomnia. Nightmares. Migraines. Tinnitus. Disappointment.Not being able to keep at a job for very long without feeling intense claustrophobia and anxiety. Having to put up with unbelievably inconsiderate housemates...Nobody on my Music dgree helping me out so I had to drop out etc etc etc...
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Rattlehead on January 29, 2013, 05:09:50 PM
Job hunting sucks, I just finished my undergrad studies and I don't really know what to do with myself now, I've only been looking for work for about 3 weeks and I've found absolutely nothing but shitty cashier jobs that a 16 year old high school student is qualified for. I don't know if I want to do grad school because I'm so burned out from school but it seems like the only good option right now for me.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dr. DTVT on January 29, 2013, 05:40:50 PM
If that's your attitude don't do grad school.  Grad school is like being with the most demanding g/f in the world who takes you for granted and on the slightest occasion shows her gratitude.  You have to be committed to your field.  At least that's how it is in the physical sciences.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on January 29, 2013, 05:52:06 PM
Sounds like the managers in my last job.

Absolute power tripping fucks.

Tell you to take initiative - but tell you off when you did ( which I did often ).

The sort of person that would ask you what you wanna do then MAKE you do the opposite.

There was one department where they knew nobody liked working - so if anyone did the slightest thing wrong - they'd get sent to

work in that department for a while.

I didn't stay there very long and I almost complained to head office because I knew some of my co-workers would back me up - but i'd moved house and city and I really just wanted to leave it behind tbh...
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Rattlehead on January 29, 2013, 07:48:47 PM
If that's your attitude don't do grad school.  Grad school is like being with the most demanding g/f in the world who takes you for granted and on the slightest occasion shows her gratitude.  You have to be committed to your field.  At least that's how it is in the physical sciences.

I had that same attitude while I was getting my bachelor's and I managed to graduate magna cum laude. I do like my field a lot, I'm just tired of the monotonous school grind, but I feel like a few more unproductive weeks of job searching will change my attitude.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MajorMatt on February 02, 2013, 05:23:56 AM
Ok so the last couple days have been pretty bad. I don't feel like myself anymore, I just feel an overwhelming sense of despair and even simple things like buying something in a shop are difficult because as soon as I get to the counter I am shaking with anxiety for some reason. I feel as if my life is completely falling apart. I ended up missing a lot of uni last week because I couldn't bring myself to get out of bed. I don't find any joy in things I used to love, like playing guitar, programming and gaming. My sleeping is terrible, I can't fall asleep at night because my mind is racing and I usually wake up really early, then want to sleep the rest of the day. I went out to meet some friends last night and no matter how much they said it was good to see me again and no matter how much they complimented me I still felt like a piece of shit. This morning I woke up and actually felt like sobbing my eyes out for no reason. What the fuck is wrong with me. I hate to bitch and whine on here but I'm not sure what else to do tbh.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ħ on February 03, 2013, 01:00:25 AM
You just gotta get moving, dude. I was exactly in that mindset my sophomore year of school. I ditched classes, stayed in bed, ate terribly, didn't exercise, didn't do anything. I know it's hard but you have to will yourself out of it. Shock the system. Go for a run if you like running. Take a cold shower. Or whatever works for you.

A busy man is a happy man. Surprisingly, business gives you peace of mind. At the end of a busy day, you'll hit your pillow and fall asleep easily. Make yourself busy.

Make a list of your responsibilities and carry them out. Tell yourself that if you don't accomplish anything else, you'll do whatever it takes to go to class. When your responsibilities are taken care of, recreation is so much more enjoyable.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: r0cken on February 06, 2013, 10:24:00 AM
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What the fuck is wrong with me. I hate to bitch and whine on here but I'm not sure what else to do tbh.
You need to see a doctor, if you haven't already. There's treatment for anxiety and depression.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MajorMatt on February 07, 2013, 07:41:14 PM
I've booked an appointment to see the doc tomorrow. Today was crazy, the complete opposite of the dread I'd been experiencing. After having a restless night with vivid dreams, I lept out of bed and was so full of energy. I felt like I could do anything, my mind was racing and I felt like I was going to explode with energy. After this huge buzz I feel like I am going to crash massively. I can almost feel it approaching and it scares me in case it is worse than the previous experiences.

The thing that's worrying me about seeing the doc tomorrow is remembering everything that is going on and I don't want to be wasting his time.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Rattlehead on February 07, 2013, 08:16:02 PM
Have you considered seeing a psychiatrist (not sure if that's what you mean by doctor)? From the feelings that you have described, it sounds like you may be suffering from bi-polar disorder. I don't mean to scare you or make you feel bad, but it is definitely important to talk to some kind of professional if you are really feeling like that. I hope things get better man and I'm sure they will, just try to keep your head up and stay positive. Believe me, I know it's easier said than done, I've gone through a depression myself in my teen years. Try to find a healthy hobby like exercising or socializing, it always helps to get out and be around others that you feel comfortable with. I can really relate to what you are going through though, I have anxiety as well, but it has gotten much better over the years because I eventually learned how to overcome it. I know it can be overwhelming at times, I used to get really bad stress headaches and weird sensations in my face when I was in a social situation that I perceived as uncomfortable. I used to smoke a lot of pot as well and that wasn't helping my situation at all.  Breathing techniques can be good temporary solutions for when you're experiencing bad anxiety, you can find them online. Keep us posted on how you're feeling man, like I said I know it's tough but I'm sure you can overcome it.  :smiley:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: r0cken on February 08, 2013, 03:26:54 AM
The thing that's worrying me about seeing the doc tomorrow is remembering everything that is going on and I don't want to be wasting his time.
Keeping a journal helps. Or just writing down the key issues for yourself.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MajorMatt on February 08, 2013, 10:25:31 AM
First of all, thanks for the responses guys, they were very encouraging :)

Just got back from the appointment with my GP. I'd barely opened my mouth and he immediately seemed to get it and asked me to fill out some questionnaires regarding the subject and has booking me in for some counseling of some sort. I'm supposed to receive a phone call from them at some point to finalize an appointment. I'm not really sure what I'll be in for with the appointment, I just hope they stay with non medicinal approaches. The last thing I want to happen is to have a load of drugs thrown at me, merely masking the problem.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MetalMike06 on February 08, 2013, 02:54:41 PM
That's one thing that makes me apprehensive about "getting help". Depression meds sometimes appear to screw people up even more, at least people I know that take them.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MajorMatt on February 08, 2013, 09:17:07 PM
That's one thing that makes me apprehensive about "getting help". Depression meds sometimes appear to screw people up even more, at least people I know that take them.

Exactly. I have personal experience of this, hence why I'm glad they have not taken this approach.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MajorMatt on February 08, 2013, 09:57:28 PM
Edit: few to many beers haha
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: snapple on February 11, 2013, 05:53:49 AM
So, my wife is closer to graduating than me. Last year, before we got married, we realized a couple things.

1.) I was struggling in school and I needed to take a break (that I did on my own)
2.) If I were able to work full time, we could finish out her degree without taking a loan

So, I agreed to put my education on hold for her. It's just one year, and I don't really mind doing it. However, I've now been unemployed for 3 months. I can't even find a job for fast food places I have worked for before (though, in a different town). I'm so frustrated. We might be able to make it out of here (mid-Michigan) without having to take on any debt before we head back to our home town, but I just feel like I am letting her down in so many ways. I can't even describe it. Then, I feel like I am letting myself down. Like, if we knew this was going to be the case, why didn't I enroll in classes? I'm just really down.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on February 15, 2013, 11:03:56 PM
I dropped a post in the drunk thread, but had to put another (with less typographical errors) one in... and here is the most logical place.

Life right now just feels like the biggest kick in the nuts ever. 

Edit ... Boy, I was wrong there. Just she you think you're down, nope... There's another level to go to.

FML
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lonestar on February 16, 2013, 11:43:14 AM
You know where to find me if you need to talk man.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on February 16, 2013, 05:39:11 PM
 :(

:hug: s Chad
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MajorMatt on February 19, 2013, 12:11:36 AM
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Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lonestar on February 19, 2013, 12:59:49 AM
If you need to talk to someone, do so. They are their for that reason. Don't stay alone with the thoughts, it's not a good place to be, I know. Hang in there man, and reach out and talk to someone please.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: The Stray Seed on February 19, 2013, 03:27:43 AM
I seriously feel like I am loosing it. I don't even know who I am anymore. Also, I did something really silly tonight. But this is the wrong place for this. Very tempted to phone the Samaritans.
I don't know anything of you except what you've expressed by your recent posts in this thread, but allow me to say one thing. Something I was told a while ago, in my darkest days:

Do not falter. Be brave, for your own courage is what can save you from your own darkness. Do not falter. Gather all your strength, and stare into the mirror.

I cannot watch you in the eye while I say this, as he did. But it's something I wrote with my very soul on my fingertips.
Hang in.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dark Castle on February 22, 2013, 09:42:58 PM
Really mad about my haircut. Fucking 4-5 inches cut off, and now what I've been wanting to do and could have done has been put back 3 months. And what makes me the angry about it is she said she was just blending it with the sides and then lopped off a huge chunk without asking, and she and another stylist went on abut how my Mohawk was too long and I just sat there and took it, all because I don't like confrontation, and they would of had to buzz it all off anyways. So now I'm fucking sitting here with this short as fuck Mohawk, and I hate it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: snapple on March 01, 2013, 06:05:29 PM
I've been unemployed for nearly 4 months. My right knee feels like it's attached with a couple strands of dental floss. I have pride in spades, but I feel like I have nothing for my self to be proud of.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Akasha on March 11, 2013, 01:55:41 PM
I have been away for awhile as I need to deal with some issues, but I'm back for a couple days. Last Friday March 1st my cousin found her son unresponsive. He was rushed to local hospital which then flew him out to another and then that hospital flew him to Children's in DC. He had the flu and it turned into pneumonia and he also had meningitis. He went septic as well, kidneys shut down, bleeding out, bleeding in the brain, and no blood getting to his legs. He just turned 16 om Feb 22nd. Just a week before he was a very healthy kid. His Mom had to make the decision on Sunday to turn off the machines. No mother should have to make that decision for their 16 yr old son. He died on March 3rd. Michelle is a single mother with 2 other sons with one severely autistic. She is struggling to pay for his funeral which is tomorrow

I was in the delivery room the day he was born and now I have to say goodbye. I never thought I would have to say goodbye to him. He was such an awesome kid helping out his Mom with his little bothers. At time Issac could be a handful and Josh helped her out with him. He never will get to grow up to be the great man we all know he was going to be.

I have shed some tears this past week, but today it has hit me like a ton of bricks.  I went and order the flowers for his viewing tonight and broke  down while doing that. I went by work to pick up the check for his funeral expenses they helped raise on Friday and broke down again.

Fuck all he had was the flu! Why did he have to die?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: snapple on March 11, 2013, 02:11:49 PM
The flu kills thousands of people in the USA every year.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on March 11, 2013, 07:09:18 PM
Not usually healthy teenagers though :(

Regardless, I am so sorry Akasha.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on March 11, 2013, 07:10:57 PM
Not fair at all Akasha.  I am so sorry.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: snapple on March 11, 2013, 07:11:04 PM
Not usually healthy teenagers though :(

Regardless, I am so sorry Akasha.

Yeah, but it happens. My prayers are definitely with you, Akasha.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MajorMatt on March 11, 2013, 08:22:14 PM
Sorry for your loss Akasha, prayers being sent your way.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lonestar on March 12, 2013, 12:29:43 PM
Kym, my prayers are with you and your family as you lay Josh to rest today.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Akasha on March 12, 2013, 03:13:56 PM
Kym, my prayers are with you and your family as you lay Josh to rest today.

Thank you so much everyone! RJ, you have been so helpful since the day I asked you to pray for me as he was fighting for his life.

I did so so today. I cried some doing the services, just tears rolling down my cheeks. It was a beautiful service. I did lose it though as they took his coffin was taken out of the church. Has been a very emotionally draining day.

RIP Josh Long 2/22/1997-3/3/2013. You will be forever missed.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Fiery Winds on March 13, 2013, 01:37:43 PM
So sorry for your loss.

I just found out that I didn't get the job I thought I had a real shot at.  They didn't even tell me themselves, I had to email and ask. To top it off, I'm not qualified for extended federal unemployment because I didn't work long enough. So not a good time for me right now.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dark Castle on March 24, 2013, 07:21:33 PM
Life is not feeling very bright.
It feels like even though I'm getting my shit together I'm slowly drifting backwards despite it all.
Friends back in South Dakota are suddenly having all of these great times, they're all doing stuff we never did when I was around, and it makes me feel like shit; as if I was the reason we never did anything and always did the same shit over and over.
I hate how I look, I'll work out a few days and then drop it for weeks, my face is a pudgy, stupid thing, and I can never be happy with how I look, constantly shaving, changing hairstyle, and regretting and hate what I did the moment after.
My mom's now pushing for me to get anti-depression meds, but I feel like rather than being depressed, I'm just feeling pity for myself when I'm doing just fine seemingly.
I don't like living in an apartment with my siblings. They're loud, obnoxious, and I end up doing the dishes and taking out the garbage and vacuuming and most other things. I'd love to get my own place, but I'm hopefully going back to school this fall so I don't know.
I'm trying to get back into art with my own music review blog and spriting, on the blog I'm already falling into a rut of not saying much about the music at all and it all feels like filler garbage, and as far as spriting goes, I know exactly what I want to do in my head, but what I put out is an over complicated mess I'm never happy with.
I just don't know about life right now guys.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on March 25, 2013, 12:15:24 PM
So sorry for your loss.

I just found out that I didn't get the job I thought I had a real shot at.  They didn't even tell me themselves, I had to email and ask. To top it off, I'm not qualified for extended federal unemployment because I didn't work long enough. So not a good time for me right now.


I re-applied full time for the temp job i had over xmas at the local Cinemaplex. They said I had no experience.

What, you mean apart from the 4 weeks I worked for you over xmas ?

Translation : Oh God No. Go Away.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on March 25, 2013, 12:19:41 PM
Plus for whatever reason - probably depression and self-loathing :

Whenever anyone is really complimentary about anything I've done - that just make me hate it and wanna destroy it.

 :-[
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on March 26, 2013, 09:00:41 PM
Like I just did...
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: The Stray Seed on March 27, 2013, 11:14:08 AM
Life is not feeling very bright.
It feels like even though I'm getting my shit together I'm slowly drifting backwards despite it all.
Friends back in South Dakota are suddenly having all of these great times, they're all doing stuff we never did when I was around, and it makes me feel like shit; as if I was the reason we never did anything and always did the same shit over and over.
My mom's now pushing for me to get anti-depression meds, but I feel like rather than being depressed, I'm just feeling pity for myself when I'm doing just fine seemingly.

Anti-depressives are for those affected by mental diseases, so please don't take any unless you are suffering from a real depression disease diagnosed by a good doctor. There's too many people taking them as candies, without knowing they can be destructive for those who are not really in need. Aside from this, I know that the every-day fight for a decent life can be very hard from time to time. Just hang in and try to find the right people around you to enjoy some good company, it's a free and healthy medicine for every illness of our lives.

I re-applied full time for the temp job i had over xmas at the local Cinemaplex. They said I had no experience.

What, you mean apart from the 4 weeks I worked for you over xmas ?

Translation : Oh God No. Go Away.
I'm speechless... Sorry for that Kotowboy. Loks like no one gets assumed full time anymore anywhere.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on March 27, 2013, 08:27:20 PM
I refuse to be prescribed anti depressants.

I'd rather feel worthless than fake happy.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dark Castle on March 27, 2013, 08:40:58 PM
I don't plan on taking any. I'd rather just see somebody or try and make myself happy and mean it. My mom's just worried, but that's her job, to get overly worried heh :s
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jonnybaxy on March 27, 2013, 08:43:53 PM
I'd rather live in the real world rather than some fake utopia, if you're ever feeling sad just remember that too be sad means you have been happy before  :tup
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on March 28, 2013, 06:53:58 AM
I don't remember when.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: FiberglassMoon on March 28, 2013, 08:34:31 AM
Right now I feel more depressed than ever before in my life.  I know I don't post on here much (though I've been lurking for years), but writing this is very therapeutic for me and helps me release.

There is a great chance that I am going to lose one of my best friends, and it's crushing me.  Essentially, I have been in an on and off again relationship for the past 2.5 years with my best female friend (though it was never really an official relationship).  During this time neither of us have been with anyone else, until recently.  We had a failure in communication that caused her to think I didn't care for her as much as I do.

Because of this, she started to hang out and be intimate with this other guy (right in front of my face, incidentally).  It was this point I realized that there is too much emotion and history between us, and it's too strange and painful for me to be around her while she's with someone else.  It's not something I can mentally cope with.  I'm not the type of person that can move on from relationships easily, and when they end I need to have that person completely removed from my life (for some time at least). As I see it, the only way that I can get past this it to be apart from her for an extended period of time. And the prospect of that really hurts.  It's not just that I'm losing a lover, but more that I'm possibly going to lose a close friend as well (We graduate from college in less than two months, and we won't be living in the same area).

I'm not a person who has a million friends, but those I do have I'm very close with.  For the past two days the idea of her being with this other guy, and the idea that we're not going to be around each other at all has consumed my thoughts. It's exhausting because I spend every waking minute thinking about it, and it makes me sick.  Both figuratively and literally sick.  I've not slept worth a shit, and I haven't been eating because my stomach's in knots.  I can be a very cynical person, but recently I've been trying to become more zen about things.  I've been telling myself to think of the solution and not the problem, yet I can't seem to keep my mind away from the negativity.  It doesn't help that there is no life instruction manual, and I have no similar previous experiences to draw from.

If you've actually read this far....should I just let time be the great healer?  Or are there any suggestions for what I can do to help myself from feeling like absolute shit 24 hours a day?  I've been thinking that exercise is a great way to boost my mood, but first I need to be able to keep down food to bring energy up.  Should I stop listening to Blackfield on repeat? 

Anyway, thanks for listening to the ramblings of a confused 22 year old.  :mehlin

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on March 28, 2013, 09:30:28 AM
I wouldn't worry too much

I'm 35 this year and I've never been out with anyone :lol

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Rattlehead on March 28, 2013, 09:39:53 AM
Stupid question: have you tried talking to her recently about your feelings for her?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: FiberglassMoon on March 28, 2013, 10:43:10 AM
Stupid question: have you tried talking to her recently about your feelings for her?

The whole story was very truncated....but to answer you question; yes.  Over the past three weeks we have had at least 3 very serious conversations that lasted hours.  And she tells me she feels just as strongly for me as I do for her, but now there is this other guy that she really likes as well.  Unfortunately, it took this guy coming into the picture to make us realize that we needed to have a serious chat.  I think the thing that bothers me the worst is that she isn't someone who I can just not see and not have it affect my life at all.  First of all, she's one of my closest friends, and not just someone that I was with and can now forget.  Second, she and I have all the same mutual friends.  For the most part, we go to all the same events, hang out with the same people.  It's not an easy thing for me to just not be around her, which is what I believe is best for both of us. 

And trust me, if it were possible to not worry about it too much, I wouldn't. It's not like I'm sitting around wallowing in my own sorrow. I don't want to feel like shit, but unfortunately I do.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on March 31, 2013, 01:09:08 AM
3am.  Drinking rum straight from the bottle.  Yeah, this is healthy.  had a nice (albeit brief) IM chat with an old friend that I dearly miss though, so I got that going for me.  Everything else... not so fucking much.  Meh, not sure why I espect anything to change. 

Meet the new boss.  Same as th old boss.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lonestar on March 31, 2013, 01:22:02 AM
Hang in there bro, it only seems endless when we're in the middle of it, you know I'm there if you need an ear to bend.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: kjg308429 on March 31, 2013, 08:21:22 AM
Everybody has his own sadness, and so do I. While I read some your thread, I felt I'm not that unfortune. I should work about 13hours a day from 6 am to 7 pm, and pay is too litttle. Exchanging it into dollars, it may be not more than $100 a month. I can't refuse that sucking job, because I'm serving for national duty. So I can't help feeling being robbed of freedom. More terrible is that job makes me more exhausted and vulnerable than ever. Actually, after job, I can't do anything expect sleeping and I have been suffered from pain on waist since last year. Everyday I feel I'm in prison. So I have thought I'm very unfortune. But what you all said are so sad that I"m so shamed to complain the trivials so much. At least, my service is left just 10months, and it means I have a clear breakthrouh which will come to me just waiting for 10 months. Thank you for giving me encouragement.   
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on March 31, 2013, 06:59:59 PM
Hang in there bro, it only seems endless when we're in the middle of it, you know I'm there if you need an ear to bend.

I know.  It's hard when things feel like they're improving, but then the powder keg goes off, and nope... shit is still shit.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: philmcson on March 31, 2013, 09:03:09 PM
Everybody has his own sadness, and so do I. While I read some your thread, I felt I'm not that unfortune. I should work about 13hours a day from 6 am to 7 pm, and pay is too litttle. Exchanging it into dollars, it may be not more than $100 a month. I can't refuse that sucking job, because I'm serving for national duty. So I can't help feeling being robbed of freedom. More terrible is that job makes me more exhausted and vulnerable than ever. Actually, after job, I can't do anything expect sleeping and I have been suffered from pain on waist since last year. Everyday I feel I'm in prison. So I have thought I'm very unfortune. But what you all said are so sad that I"m so shamed to complain the trivials so much. At least, my service is left just 10months, and it means I have a clear breakthrouh which will come to me just waiting for 10 months. Thank you for giving me encouragement.

Don't get all of the circumstances, especially as I don't know where you come from and if you're in the army..... but hope you'll make it and get a better and easier job soon. Stay tough!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: carl320 on April 07, 2013, 10:10:29 AM
It's hard to live life with no real sense of purpose.  What's the point of being alive if there isn't any reason?  I'm close to reaching a big goal that I've set for myself, but then I wonder what's next.  My whole purpose for 10 years was reaching this goal, and now I realize I had no real purpose at all.  SO now this goal I've been striving for seems small and not even worth it.  It doesn't help that it appears that everyone else has reason to continue on while I just wander aimlessly through life.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wkiml on April 09, 2013, 09:39:36 AM
having a real rough go at it today...one year anniversary of the death of my best friend/ex-wife not a day goes by that I don't think of her in some way .  Didn't want to take the day off from work because I figured I would just sit around and mope, but being here at work isn't helping much either. It's going to be a rough day for the kids as well, not really sure what too say to them later, if I should say anything at all or just let the grieve on their own accords.  :'(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 18, 2013, 10:48:55 PM
Yeah, At the moment I am trying to buy tickets from Live Nation to Mayhem Festival. It's pissing me off because I can't click a link without it saying, you are forbidden to access the site. WHAT!!!! It does the same thing on my phone and on Ticketmaster. For Fucks sake how hard is it to fucking buy a ticket......UGH!!!!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on April 19, 2013, 05:36:01 AM
having a real rough go at it today...one year anniversary of the death of my best friend/ex-wife not a day goes by that I don't think of her in some way .  Didn't want to take the day off from work because I figured I would just sit around and mope, but being here at work isn't helping much either. It's going to be a rough day for the kids as well, not really sure what too say to them later, if I should say anything at all or just let the grieve on their own accords.  :'(

How's the last week been Bill?  How'd your boys cope?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wkiml on April 19, 2013, 07:38:03 AM
The day itself wasn't pleasant , went over to her grave together, gave the kids sometime alone with her as I waited in the car .

Kids were pretty sullen most of the day ( but thats to be expected) we talked about some of the good times we all had together, that seemed to lift their spirits as they each recalled a certain situation with her that sticks in their minds.

being a single parent just sucks, want to spend as much time with them as possible , but than again I need to work to support them, its a catch -22.

Planned our annual vacation which seemed to get their minds off things as well


Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ? on April 22, 2013, 01:49:56 AM
(I'm just using this thread as a kind of mental bucket where I can puke, because there isn't anyone I could tell this stuff to. Many of you have had deeper problems than I have ATM and I've never even posted in this thread to give you guys some support/comfort, so it's only fair if you ignore this post - my whining, bitching and moaning would make you all feel bored and annoyed anyway.)

I guess I should be happy with my life, but last night I started thinking about everything and I realized that I have a lot of things to feel unhappy about:

I'm preparing for the uni entrance exam, which will be at the end of May, but I have a feeling I won't get enough points and I'll have to spend one more year under the same roof with my family. It's ok - I love my family and living independently is going to be pretty expensive anyway, but I would like to move on in my life, start a new chapter and get my studies done more quickly. I also don't have any other actually interesting schools in mind, so I'll probably have to do some studying in the open uni and hopefully that will help me get in next year.

I started driving school a couple of weeks ago - there haven't been any actual driving lessons yet, but I just don't feel motivated about it at all. My parents pressured me into going there, although I was against the idea of getting a driving license because I know the damage cars do on the environment and I've been scared of driving anyway because of the risk of a car crash. I guess it's better to have two options instead of one, but I'm just not really into it.

Music is the greatest thing in my life - I feel passionate about it and love playing and listening to it, but for some reason I'm really lazy when it comes to creating my own stuff. It's fun to write music and lyrics, but recently I've had a really bad writer's block and I haven't even finished recording or mixing any of the songs I have actually written or been writing. I gave up the idea of becoming a full-time musician a while ago already, but this lack of progress makes me afraid I will never get anything done at all.

My life goes in cycles and every day is basically the same as the previous one and it bores me. My best friends don't live in the same town with me (anymore), so there's no-one I could hang out with, and I'll just sit in front of the computer or lie in my bed listening to music. I could get new friends if I got to move out of this town, but at the same time I fear my shyness will remain just as strong, if not stronger, as it has been and I will be totally alone. I've always been an introverted person and have had no problem being alone, but my lack of friends has started to bother me and I'd like to do something about it, although it's impossible at this stage in my life.

Another problem is my appearance - my acne has made a comeback recently and as a result my face looks even more disgusting than before. I use two different kinds of face care products, but nothing seems to help. As I recently mentioned in the DT-side chat thread, my tummy has grown due to the lack of exercise and I'm trying to get slimmer, but I'm not a sporty guy, so it isn't too easy, although I try to go out and cycle every day and I occasionally go to the gym. I've never found myself good-looking at all and I've accepted my ugliness, but now I feel more frustrated about it than before.

My diet is also very limited due to me lacking open-mindedness towards different kinds of food when I was younger. I fear this lack of diverse food combined with the lack of exercising will result in an early grave for me.



To put it short, my life isn't totally shit and I'm probably just being overdramatic about everything, but I feel things could be better if all the problems I've mentioned were solved. However, it isn't easy at all and I have to blame myself for screwing up my own life.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: HarlequinForest on May 03, 2013, 10:41:33 PM
I just got dumped today. She had no problem telling me that, while I'm an "amazing guy", I'm basically an awkward loser who needs to grow up... Which is mostly true, but when I'm told that by a 24-year-old who dropped out of school at 16 and works a part-time minimum wage job with absolutely no prospects, it makes me wonder who could ever accept me? I won't miss her or the relationship that much, but it has stirred up intense feelings of worthlessness and loneliness. I have literally no friends. Most of the time I'm fine with that, but when I need someone to turn to it just fucking kills me. There's so many obstacles to reaching happiness in my life that sometimes I just feel so overwhelmed I don't even want to try.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dr. DTVT on May 04, 2013, 04:48:32 PM
Harlequin -

That is not the way to look at it.  Maybe she saw that you were going places and would probably eventually cut ties with her.  The women I have dated have always had a hard time internally accepting the difference in intelligence levels between us, and I think that's part of the reason they don't stick around.  Everyone says it, but only because it is absolutely fucking gospel truth - You have to have happiness within before you can happy with someone else.  I'm single and 34, and I don't let it bother me one bit.  I'm happy with my job, with my work relationships, and where I'm going in life.  I'm settling into my dream job and eventually will put effort into dating again, and when I do women are going to meet a confident, happy, and secure person.  And if that's not enough for them, well then fuck them because I don't have time to deal with someone too stupid to play pocket aces.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on May 04, 2013, 04:50:42 PM
WELL said, Doc. :clap:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: HarlequinForest on May 04, 2013, 08:59:39 PM
Thanks for the words. I'll admit that I didn't see a long-term future with her and would have indeed probably eventually cut ties with her due to differences in intelligence and prospects. I mean, she was smart in some ways, but some things she said just made me embarrassed to be dating her. But you're right, I need to be happy with myself first and foremost; I'm not happy with myself, and it definitely shows. Just gotta work on this stuff one thing at a time and take comfort in knowing that things will only get better in the future. Anyways, I feel a lot happier today, so I guess I'm OK for now.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dark Castle on June 01, 2013, 11:04:39 PM
So I have this condition/thing/stupid thing in which I develop these benign purplish/blue moles/lumps(something my great grandma had I learned). When I was a kid basically from 1st grade to about 8th grarde, I had one on the inside of my wrist, and I had it removed by a doctor, the things are completely harmless 99.9% of the time I guess and while they can get sore, they're mainly aesthetically annoying, and since then I've haven't had one. Well it seems over the last (few?)year I've had one develop in a not so fun area that's really embarassing. Fuck yeah.
I've been ignoring it for awhile, only to read that in the area where I have my current one they can degenerate into malignant melanoma. Guess who's freaking out right now? Guess who still doesn't want to go to a doctor because of where it's located? Guess who can't even really afford to go to a doctor anyways?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TioJorge on June 01, 2013, 11:10:04 PM
I'M DEPRESSED BECAUSE I'M NOT CURRENTLY RAPING, TORTURING AND EVENTUALLY MURDERING EVERY LIVING THING AROUND ME.

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Akasha on June 17, 2013, 04:20:28 PM
Had a bad day! I paid my car off this morning and ran to the mall to pick a few things up and some dumb fuckin idiot decide to back into me as I was leaving. So pissed about it. 5 yrs ago I paid off my other car and some bitch fail to yield the right of way and my car got totaled. A little while ago I was walking into the garage and hit my toes. I just went one and did what I needed to do and about 20 mins later I saw that one was very bloody. I should have stayed in bed today.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: sueño on June 17, 2013, 04:50:47 PM
:(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on June 17, 2013, 05:18:36 PM
I've never been in a relationship and frankly - I don't see the need for one after 34 years of being single :P
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: sueño on June 17, 2013, 06:09:13 PM
You may just have something there, kowtowboy    :-\

Perhaps that's the mindset I should adopt.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on June 18, 2013, 09:51:20 AM
You may just have something there, kowtowboy    :-\

Perhaps that's the mindset I should adopt.


Nobody has ever shown any interest and I don't expect that to suddenly change overnight. Plus i'm really introvert. Also - I don't drink or smoke so I don't go to pubs :p

I just sit in my room :P
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ? on June 18, 2013, 11:50:26 AM
Nobody has ever shown any interest and I don't expect that to suddenly change overnight. Plus i'm really introvert. Also - I don't drink or smoke so I don't go to pubs :p

I just sit in my room :P
I'm exactly like that... You're not alone!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on June 18, 2013, 11:54:57 AM
You can be nice all you want - people don't appreciate niceness.

Apparently people really do just like wankers who beat them up.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: sueño on June 18, 2013, 12:51:44 PM
either physically or emotionally...  :(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on June 18, 2013, 12:58:37 PM
Sometimes I just want to be a twat because I'm sick of being nice and getting nothing in return or no recognition or whatever.

But I can't.


Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: sueño on June 18, 2013, 01:06:11 PM
at best, you will attract someone who will be mean to you.  I regularly see mismatched couples, where one is being taken advantage of by the other in some way.

it is sad.   :sad:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on June 18, 2013, 01:10:14 PM
Unless they are both twats - then it's hilarious.

:corn
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MoraWintersoul on June 18, 2013, 01:13:04 PM
Sometimes I just want to be a twat because I'm sick of being nice and getting nothing in return or no recognition or whatever.

But I can't.
I really really hope you won't take this the wrong way, but people do need a lot more than "nice" to enter a relationship with someone, just FYI.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on June 18, 2013, 01:14:56 PM
Of course. But as I said - i'm not interested anyway.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: sueño on June 18, 2013, 01:22:07 PM
Unless they are both twats - then it's hilarious.

:corn

 :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: sueño on June 19, 2013, 07:41:38 PM
Actually -- it's not that hilarious if one (or even both) are your friends.

Seeing someone unhappy in their situation is never a fun thing.  But I do feel your pain, kowtowboy.  There are some who are chosen no matter how bad they are and there are others who remain unselected no matter how good/nice they are.  There is not "a lid for every pot" and I believe some of us will simply have to deal with that.

It is ironic, however, that both trying to be settled and seeing no need for a relationship that isn't coming and actually desiring a relationship with someone (who isn't coming) produces nearly the same sort of "depression/anger".

Is it better to have and not need (or want) or need/want and not have...?   Personally, I have never really known.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Fiery Winds on June 29, 2013, 02:35:00 PM
These past few days have been strange, insightful, and has left me feeling bummed out. I had a really great time with old friends the other night to start it all out, and since the following morning have been reflecting on myself, and don't really like what I found. I discovered that I am not happy.

Such a simple statement, but that night showed me the happy person I used to feel, not just project. It's been such a long time since I felt truly happy, and the stark contrast has been eating away at me since then. I don't know what to do.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: carl320 on June 29, 2013, 02:48:01 PM
I understand that feeling.  When I feel that way, I think about what might be wrong.  Is it work?  Is it that I'm not where I want to be, figuratively and literally?  Is it lack of a fulfilling social life?  After I think about it and have an idea, then I can go about changing it.  At that point, though, it's up to me to set the goals and work towards fixing the problems.  This is how I deal with it personally.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Shadow2222 on July 31, 2013, 11:03:43 AM
I'm so unbelievably upset today. I feel like everything is against me. Today, I feel at odds with everyone in my life. I never get angry like this, but today I just want to scream.  :(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on July 31, 2013, 12:15:19 PM
No joke but that's how I feel every day.

Another job I didn't get. Another person let me down. Another set of circumstances that didn't work out the way I hoped.

And so on and so on and so on....
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: sueño on July 31, 2013, 01:36:50 PM
No joke but that's how I feel every day.

Another job I didn't get. Another person let me down. Another set of circumstances that didn't work out the way I hoped.

And so on and so on and so on....

I feel for you guys.  That's kinda me, too.   :sad:  Especially the second and third on your list (i'm working a decent, long-term temporary job now -- however, for $10k less than my last gig).

I'm just glad I'm healthy.   :P
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on July 31, 2013, 04:50:08 PM
I'm not physically unhealthy.

But usually I can't be bothered going to bed until 4/5 am and even then I just lie there awake for a very long time.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: sueño on July 31, 2013, 05:45:22 PM
:(  that's not good.  You should be asleep now -- It's 12.45am in your land!

I can always sleep (sometimes too much).  Getting out of bed is an emotional chore, tho -- I dread the mornings.  And my sleep is not as refreshing as it once was.

I'm sorry you're dealing with all that.  I do know the pain of being out of work.  It's been a bit too often for my taste over the past ten years or so.   :|  At least you have your music.  That's sort of an outlet, right?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on July 31, 2013, 06:13:31 PM
:(  that's not good.  You should be asleep now -- It's 12.45am in your land!

I can always sleep (sometimes too much).  Getting out of bed is an emotional chore, tho -- I dread the mornings.  And my sleep is not as refreshing as it once was.

I'm sorry you're dealing with all that.  I do know the pain of being out of work.  It's been a bit too often for my taste over the past ten years or so.   :|  At least you have your music.  That's sort of an outlet, right?

It is indeed.

I've recorded three new songs this week :lol

https://davidoakes.bandcamp.com/album/transmissions

I know what you mean. it's probably becaue I don't have to get up for work so I don't feel the pleasure of a lie in anymore
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: sueño on July 31, 2013, 06:27:08 PM
:(  that's not good.  You should be asleep now -- It's 12.45am in your land!

I can always sleep (sometimes too much).  Getting out of bed is an emotional chore, tho -- I dread the mornings.  And my sleep is not as refreshing as it once was.

I'm sorry you're dealing with all that.  I do know the pain of being out of work.  It's been a bit too often for my taste over the past ten years or so.   :|  At least you have your music.  That's sort of an outlet, right?

It is indeed.

I've recorded three new songs this week :lol

https://davidoakes.bandcamp.com/album/transmissions

I know what you mean. it's probably becaue I don't have to get up for work so I don't feel the pleasure of a lie in anymore

Yep, I definitely know that feeling, too.  :(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on August 05, 2013, 04:23:19 AM
Having trouble locating the " Things That Piss You Off " thread so...

Does anyone else really find it patronising when people say " Life is what you make it  " herpy derp derp . . . ;D

I will end  :censored you with all the fury of a thousand suns.  >:( >:(



Some people try their best - but still fail at everything so SHUT. YOUR. MOUTH.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: sueño on August 05, 2013, 08:02:10 AM
 :sad:

I know that feeling, too.   :'(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on August 05, 2013, 07:20:03 PM
You got twitter or something ? :)


Anyway - Have you ever been typing in a form online and written a really long post and you make a typo so press " delete "...

But instead of deleting it goes BACK and you lose everything you just wrote...

 :facepalm: >:(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: sueño on August 05, 2013, 10:10:47 PM
No interest at all in Twitter.    :-\

Listening to your new music tomorrow,  tho.  Was out of town this past weekend and busy today.  Looking forward to it!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on August 06, 2013, 10:49:04 AM
No interest at all in Twitter.    :-\

Listening to your new music tomorrow,  tho.  Was out of town this past weekend and busy today.  Looking forward to it!

Ah i've taken down the stream. It was old versions of the songs.

Juggernaut and NPW are still up though. :)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: sueño on August 06, 2013, 10:55:11 AM
:(

now, I am depressed/angry.   >:(

 :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on August 06, 2013, 10:55:58 AM
Me too.


Every Day.


Except Sundays Especially Sundays.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dark Castle on August 12, 2013, 10:50:32 PM
My social life is non existent.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on August 13, 2013, 05:13:53 AM
So, for 13 years, it's been a tradition on my kids birthday that my parents (dad and stepmom), along with Mrs.jingle's parents come and celebrate with a very informal birthday party on their actual birth day.  For the past number of years, our relationship with my father has been deteriorating, and don't even get me started on my step mom (whom we used to be pretty close with).  I haven't talked with my dad in 5 weeks, or received any kind of email from him, so it wasn't much of a surprise yesterday when he called to talk to the kids.  I answer the phone, and he sounds almost robotic, saying "I just called to wish the kids a happy birthday".  No small talk, no 'how ya doin'.  When he's talking to the kids, he asks my daughter if they got his letter that he mailed.  Nope, not yet.  He says he mailed it a week ago - A WEEK AGO!!!  So, you decided you weren't coming last week!.  (side note, it did come in the mail about 30 minutes after he called).  Then, when talking to my son, my dad tells him a letter is on the way.  My son says "you're not coming today!?!?".  His response - "Well, I wasn't invited".  My son says "you can still come".  His response - "I don't think that's a good idea".

Unreal.  For 12 years, there's never been an invite, just a quick discussion on what time to come over.  If he really wanted to come, then I would've thought that he'd jump at the opportunity when my son 'invited' him.  He could've actually talked to me when he called.  But, this is his MO.  This isn't the first time he's thrown a hissy-fit when he doesn't feel needed or get what he wants (the way he wants it).  I could go on with the shit he's pulled with me and my brother.  Not to mention my uncle (his brother) and that side of my family.  He's a very controlling man, and when he can't control things, or get his way, he takes his toys and goes home.  He was on a ski-trip in BC with my brother and his wife's family a few years ago, and abruptly up and announced he was going home (changed his flight, and expected the host to get up at 3am to take him on the 2 hour drive to the airport)... all because he didn't feel needed.

Well dad, bite me.  I'm not feeding into your BS.  I know you want me to call so you can start a confrontation, and chastise me for all the reasons this is my and Mrs.Jingle's fault.  These are your issues.  You are the only one that lost out yesterday, my kids understand what the situation is with you, they just don't know why ... and neither do I.  The sad thing is, you've now finally completed the transformation into the person you despised most for the last 20 years - your own father.  The circle is complete, but I sure as shit won't be joining that circle.  Remember years ago when you told me "take me out to the woodshed if I ever become like that (like his father)"?  Well, unfortunately, I've taken our relationship out to the woodshed.  I will mourn the father and grandfather you once were, but will not invest any sadness, pain, or anger to the person that you are now.  These are your crosses to bear, not mine.


tl;dr - Aging parents suck.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Zydar on August 13, 2013, 05:19:28 AM
Wow, that sucks :(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on August 13, 2013, 05:36:01 AM
Sorry to hear that  :sadpanda:

My dad is the opposite - he really mellowed after my mum passed away and he got re-married and had another kid.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Virtualman64 on August 13, 2013, 10:40:31 AM
I'm have Bi-Polar Disorder.So I can relate very well to bad mods,and depression.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on August 13, 2013, 01:05:30 PM
I thought I might be bi-polar but then I realised i'm never hyper - i'm just miserable :lol

I thought it might explain how I can be really proud of something i'd been working on -

- but the next day just decide that it's fucking rubbish and delete it.


Maybe I have self-destructive tendencies instead of Bi-Polar.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: sueño on August 13, 2013, 03:13:53 PM
I feel you on that, Kotowboy.

I'm gonna be taking some time off the internet -- period -- except what I need to do for work.  It takes a lot of time and lends itself to unnecessary convos.  That often results in misunderstandings and self-destructive situations, which sucks.   :P  I've really enjoyed the interchange of music and film I learned here for my short stay (i'm out of here after today).  Thanks to all!

Keep up with your great music, though; you sound fantastic.  I'll see you around, take care!  :)

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on August 13, 2013, 03:22:32 PM
I feel you on that, Kotowboy.

I'm gonna be taking some time off the internet -- period -- except what I need to do for work.  It takes a lot of time and lends itself to unnecessary convos.  That often results in misunderstandings and self-destructive situations, which sucks.   :P  I've really enjoyed the interchange of music and film I learned here for my short stay (i'm out of here after today).  Thanks to all!

Keep up with your great music, though; you sound fantastic.  I'll see you around, take care!  :)


Toodle Pip old sport ! All the best !  :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jonnybaxy on August 13, 2013, 08:57:03 PM
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Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Onno on August 14, 2013, 03:12:32 PM
Ugggh I hate not being able to sleep... Makes me think... Thinking just gets me down.

On my mind tonight:

I feel my family just put up with me rather than like me,

I'm poor always due to no job, which means I can do less with my friends and I feel like I'm being pushed away because of it.

Education is shocking and makes me depressed

My last relationship left me feeling lonely and ended really badly

But I have a new girlfriend which makes me feel slightly less lonely
Hey man, you're just 17 (well, maybe I can't say shit 'cause I'm only 19... but I'll just do it anyway). Why don't you go looking for a job? Assuming you have the time for it regarding school etc. Education may be boring or hard or maybe you don't see the point, but there is a point man. No education means no job means no money means pretty much no life. If you make the right choices and do your best, you'll find something you like eventually, even if that means receiving education in a whole lotta field you're not interested in. You can't like everything, even if you're studying something you like. I study Earth Science, which pretty much contains a lot of different fields, so obviously I can't like everything. Even in the field I love (geology/geophysics) I don't like everything, not at all.

And you've got a new girlfriend? Stop thinking about your last relationship, and be happy with her  :tup
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: LCArenas on August 17, 2013, 01:18:20 AM
I fucked up tremendously in an important university exam this week. Like, really, failed it completely and got a really low grade. I feel like a complete idiot, and fear that when my friends know about my grade they'll cast me out because I'll be the less intelligent of them. My parents don't know, and I feel ashamed of myself because there's no excuse to get a grade like that. My girlfriend broke up with me the same day, and I feel miserable.

For the last months I've been able to finally get my self-esteem together after years of insecurities, and this comes and fucks everything up. I live with the fear of dying alone. I know, I'm far too young to think about it, but having to work/study in an hospital doesn't help. You see old people abandoned and left on their own with their diseases too advanced to be cured, and you know they don't have much time left and nobody to hang on to or to even fucking visit them when they're slowly dying and yearning for at least somebody to make them company.

I'm afraid that if I keep fucking things up like I have been lately I'm going to end up like one of those people.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: PROGdrummer on August 17, 2013, 04:47:36 PM
Is this also a heartbreak thread? Because the girl ive been madly in love with for over a year now left me a few days ago, and today is our fucking anniversary. she couldnt handle living four hours away from me anymore and she was so depressed about not being able to see me everyday so she dumped me. This is fucking bullshit, we knew it was hard and she left me before over it but came back TWICE already completely fucking regretting it and hating herself for giving up on what we had for a closer relationship. She fucked up this relationship so many times. I did nothing but treat her like a queen for over a year while everyone else spat on her like dirt and she knows that and she told me so hundreds of times.

 I have NOBODY to talk to about this, my closest friends dont know what to say they are just as shocked as i am. I cant communicate with her friends about this because i dont have their numbers. And we both knew it was going to be difficult until we graduated highschool and moved to a mutual place in the middle where we could finally just be together, but she PROMISED ME, EVERY SINGLE DAY,  that she would never give up on our relationship again, she promised every single day that she would prove to me that she was never going anywhere ever again and then she pulls this fucking shit and leaves me, 2 days before our anniversary because she decided nevermind this is too hard I cant keep my promise. I NEVER LOST FAITH, I NEVER LOST HOPE. AND SHE BROKE MY TRUST BEFORE AND SHE WON IT BACK BY BEING SO SINCERELY FAITHFUL AND WITH ME ALL SUMMER AND AS SOON AS SCHOOL STARTS UP AND SHE SEES COUPLES BEING ABLE TO HUG AND KISS IN THE HALLWAYS SHE GETS ALL DEPRESSED. we were so fucking close and she straight up tells me that she doest want me to come see her anymore and that she just wants to get over me and move on. Are u serious? This chick was so fucking extreme about our relationship that she named our future kids, chose our future pets, planned our wedding and  picked dozens of songs and albums from my ipod for wedding music. And now she just throws that all away and wants to forget all about it and move on. I cant believe this. I dont know what to do anymore.

This is bullshit, i was completely blindsided. Im hurt, angry, heartbroken. and the worst part is I DID ALL THE HARD WORK. She just sat at home and was depressed over me all day while i was the one trying to keep her with me, stressing over how im going to spend as much time with her as possible albeit the distance between us. I did everything and she still gives up. Since the day i met her ive been by her side while countless other came and went and never wanted anything to do with her ever again. I cant believe this. /rant someone please just, help? tell me something. anything. just ... what am i even supposed to do now.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on August 17, 2013, 06:32:24 PM
Sorry to read that. . . Hope you feel better soon.


At least you've had someone. I never have :lol

One time I had a proper massive crush on someone for about a year but then I found out she was 20 and I was 32 at the time. **

That pretty much ended that for me :lol

But it was the first time in my whole life that i'd ever felt that way about anyone . .

Oh well. C'est la Vie. . .



** I suppose that isn't such a massive issue. I just didn't see any point in pursuing. . My dad is 62 and my stepmum is 44 - so it's not uncommon in my own family.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jonnybaxy on August 18, 2013, 09:04:52 PM
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Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
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Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
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It's like you read my mind...  :'( :'(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on September 22, 2013, 06:11:37 PM
Is this also a heartbreak thread? Because the girl ive been madly in love with for over a year now left me a few days ago, and today is our fucking anniversary. she couldnt handle living four hours away from me anymore and she was so depressed about not being able to see me everyday so she dumped me. This is fucking bullshit, we knew it was hard and she left me before over it but came back TWICE already completely fucking regretting it and hating herself for giving up on what we had for a closer relationship. She fucked up this relationship so many times. I did nothing but treat her like a queen for over a year while everyone else spat on her like dirt and she knows that and she told me so hundreds of times.

 I have NOBODY to talk to about this, my closest friends dont know what to say they are just as shocked as i am. I cant communicate with her friends about this because i dont have their numbers. And we both knew it was going to be difficult until we graduated highschool and moved to a mutual place in the middle where we could finally just be together, but she PROMISED ME, EVERY SINGLE DAY,  that she would never give up on our relationship again, she promised every single day that she would prove to me that she was never going anywhere ever again and then she pulls this fucking shit and leaves me, 2 days before our anniversary because she decided nevermind this is too hard I cant keep my promise. I NEVER LOST FAITH, I NEVER LOST HOPE. AND SHE BROKE MY TRUST BEFORE AND SHE WON IT BACK BY BEING SO SINCERELY FAITHFUL AND WITH ME ALL SUMMER AND AS SOON AS SCHOOL STARTS UP AND SHE SEES COUPLES BEING ABLE TO HUG AND KISS IN THE HALLWAYS SHE GETS ALL DEPRESSED. we were so fucking close and she straight up tells me that she doest want me to come see her anymore and that she just wants to get over me and move on. Are u serious? This chick was so fucking extreme about our relationship that she named our future kids, chose our future pets, planned our wedding and  picked dozens of songs and albums from my ipod for wedding music. And now she just throws that all away and wants to forget all about it and move on. I cant believe this. I dont know what to do anymore.

This is bullshit, i was completely blindsided. Im hurt, angry, heartbroken. and the worst part is I DID ALL THE HARD WORK. She just sat at home and was depressed over me all day while i was the one trying to keep her with me, stressing over how im going to spend as much time with her as possible albeit the distance between us. I did everything and she still gives up. Since the day i met her ive been by her side while countless other came and went and never wanted anything to do with her ever again. I cant believe this. /rant someone please just, help? tell me something. anything. just ... what am i even supposed to do now.

Okay, first of all I want to say I'm sorry you're hurting and acknowledge that this sucks. However... this may not be very helpful to you right now because you're really upset, but PEOPLE CAN'T MAKE PROMISES LIKE THAT! You can't promise that you won't give up or change your mind about a relationship, because there is NO way to predict where you are going to be at in the future. You can't promise someone you'll "never go anywhere again," especially when you've only been together a year. I'm not trying to minimize the relationship, but you're not being very realistic. Planning weddings in high school when you've only been together a year? I did that too, with my first "serious" boyfriend in college, and the relationship didn't even last a year and a half. We got so caught up in the idea of being in love but as it turned out we weren't actually that compatible. Again, I'm not trying to minimize your relationship or the hurt you're feeling, but you're acting like this girl completely betrayed you or lied to you by not "keeping her promise," but it was a completely unfair promise to expect someone to make in the first place. Being dumped fucking SUCKS, but god, there are so many more terrible ways she could have actually betrayed or hurt you. Trust me when I say you got off light. Long-distance relationships aren't for everyone, and it sounds like this gal may be one of those people who can't handle them well.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on September 28, 2013, 07:22:44 PM
Bleh...
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dark Castle on November 18, 2013, 12:02:22 PM
My cousin's 3 year old was diagnosed with cancer  :(
I remember just a couple of years ago holding her in my arms and thinking "Wow what a beautiful, rad little baby"
She's starting Chemo after Thanksgiving, and I'm really hoping that she kicks cancer butt.
(https://i.imgur.com/zov1Ukq.jpg)

I don't believe in prayer, but if some of you do pray, if you could say a few prayers for her, or keep her in your thoughts, it'd mean a lot.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on November 18, 2013, 12:04:07 PM
:jawdrop:

is literally what happened when I read this (and clearly not in a good way).   :'(  I'm not a man of faith, but will think positive thoughts for your cousin and family.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: sueño on November 18, 2013, 12:14:23 PM
so, so sorry.   :(   :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ? on November 18, 2013, 12:50:30 PM
That's not fair... :-\ I'm not a person with beliefs, either, but I hope she'll win the fight.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on November 18, 2013, 06:57:08 PM
Amen... sorry she has to go through this :(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Lucien on November 18, 2013, 09:34:48 PM
My younger brother went through this, albeit at a later age.

"Don't worry, it will be okay in the end. If it's not okay, it's not the end."
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on November 27, 2013, 05:14:18 PM
So I went to the doc and he advised counselling and mild anti-depressants.

I chose the latter for now as I really hate talking about myself at the best of times.

had my first ever one today but the doc said they take a few weeks to be noticeable.

Either that or they're a placebo :lol

The important thing is - I didn't feel unusual afterwards at any point, which was what was concerning me.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on November 27, 2013, 05:19:55 PM
DC, no words can express the feeling I have reading your post.  Every good though I have will be for her.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Jarlaxle on November 28, 2013, 12:59:30 AM
So I went to the doc and he advised counselling and mild anti-depressants.

I chose the latter for now as I really hate talking about myself at the best of times.

had my first ever one today but the doc said they take a few weeks to be noticeable.

Either that or they're a placebo :lol

The important thing is - I didn't feel unusual afterwards at any point, which was what was concerning me.

Speaking from experience, Expect anywhere from 3-6 weeks before you notice a difference. After that, you will just realize one day that you feel great and have for a number of days.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on November 28, 2013, 06:13:26 AM
:) Hopefully.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: PROGdrummer on November 28, 2013, 09:14:39 AM
*lol really dumb snip*

Okay, first of all I want to say I'm sorry you're hurting and acknowledge that this sucks. However... this may not be very helpful to you right now because you're really upset, but PEOPLE CAN'T MAKE PROMISES LIKE THAT! You can't promise that you won't give up or change your mind about a relationship, because there is NO way to predict where you are going to be at in the future. You can't promise someone you'll "never go anywhere again," especially when you've only been together a year. I'm not trying to minimize the relationship, but you're not being very realistic. Planning weddings in high school when you've only been together a year? I did that too, with my first "serious" boyfriend in college, and the relationship didn't even last a year and a half. We got so caught up in the idea of being in love but as it turned out we weren't actually that compatible. Again, I'm not trying to minimize your relationship or the hurt you're feeling, but you're acting like this girl completely betrayed you or lied to you by not "keeping her promise," but it was a completely unfair promise to expect someone to make in the first place. Being dumped fucking SUCKS, but god, there are so many more terrible ways she could have actually betrayed or hurt you. Trust me when I say you got off light. Long-distance relationships aren't for everyone, and it sounds like this gal may be one of those people who can't handle them well.

Lol wow i was dumb. I dont even care about that bitch anymore. Funny thing is, she pulled her crap again and tried to get me to take her back, AGAIN  :lol
Im not making that mistake again. Shes got some real mental issues, thats for sure. I've already moved on with someone better. No matter how much she begs and calls me from a different number, my answer will always be no. Looking back at that "heartbroken" rant, Im laughing at how stupid I was. good times.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: WDADU on November 29, 2013, 11:40:53 PM
Yeah, but now that you see how "stupid" you were (and you weren't, by the way; you were just upset and misguided), it means you've matured and you'll be wiser if something like this happens again. Best to ya!  :tup
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on December 28, 2013, 02:02:14 PM
So I went to the doc and he advised counselling and mild anti-depressants.

I chose the latter for now as I really hate talking about myself at the best of times.

had my first ever one today but the doc said they take a few weeks to be noticeable.

Either that or they're a placebo :lol

The important thing is - I didn't feel unusual afterwards at any point, which was what was concerning me.

Speaking from experience, Expect anywhere from 3-6 weeks before you notice a difference. After that, you will just realize one day that you feel great and have for a number of days.


Update : I have now finished a course of anti-depressants and can report that I feel absolutely NO different.

Exactly the same / worse if anything.

So that's that. Also one-on-one counselling is a massive no-no for me.

I guess i'm just a miserable twat :) x
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Fiery Winds on December 28, 2013, 02:20:47 PM
So I went to the doc and he advised counselling and mild anti-depressants.

I chose the latter for now as I really hate talking about myself at the best of times.

had my first ever one today but the doc said they take a few weeks to be noticeable.

Either that or they're a placebo :lol

The important thing is - I didn't feel unusual afterwards at any point, which was what was concerning me.

Speaking from experience, Expect anywhere from 3-6 weeks before you notice a difference. After that, you will just realize one day that you feel great and have for a number of days.


Update : I have now finished a course of anti-depressants and can report that I feel absolutely NO different.

Exactly the same / worse if anything.

So that's that. Also one-on-one counselling is a massive no-no for me.

I guess i'm just a miserable twat :) x

Read this, it's not so much a book about depression as it is about how to communicate with yourself (thoughts) and others:

https://www.amazon.com/Feeling-Good-The-Mood-Therapy-ebook/dp/B009UW5X4C

It combats your way of thinking from a very basic and logical level. The guy is a narcissist, but don't let that poison the fruit.   
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cable on December 28, 2013, 07:41:45 PM
I could tell the book was based in CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy) from the synopsis. After looking thru the sample, yeah the author mentions his original edition sparked interest in CBT (probably false, but I wasn't trained back then). So I see what you mean Fiery Winds.

Anyway, if you don't want to see a therapist Kotowboy, this book seems ok for self help due to its base in CBT, which is widespread in use for depression and anxiety to name a couple. It has also been adapted into other treatment types, one I ascribe to. So it's a pretty sound style of treatment.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Onno on April 07, 2014, 04:19:29 PM
Just came here to post the following.

SICK OF LYING SICK OF TRYING TIRED OF WAITING FOR FUCKING NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MetalJunkie on April 26, 2014, 12:04:16 PM
Yeah, that would be depressing.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Akasha on May 09, 2014, 04:59:55 AM
Yesterday I had to put my cat down.  That little girl was my baby. I'm laying here in bed and for once she isn't with me. She was 18 yrs old. I'm actually suprised I even slept a few hrs. She would sleep on me every night. The poor thing lost a pound in a few weeks. The last few days watching her we horrible. I know did the right thing but I hurt like hell.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on May 09, 2014, 05:41:05 AM
So sorry to hear that.  18 years!!!  Our little girl just turned 16.  We had to put a cat down after only having him for a year and a half back when our kids were born, and it was torture.  Cats can be a tremendous comfort. 

I can't imagine how sad you feel right now. 
:hug:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Akasha on May 09, 2014, 05:58:55 AM
So sorry to hear that.  18 years!!!  Our little girl just turned 16.  We had to put a cat down after only having him for a year and a half back when our kids were born, and it was torture.  Cats can be a tremendous comfort. 

I can't imagine how sad you feel right now. 
:hug:

Thanks it is a rough day. I'm not even going to work today.

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MajorMatt on May 28, 2014, 10:05:38 PM
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Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lonestar on May 28, 2014, 11:18:47 PM
Well, you got the family history, the depression/anxiety, and that FWIW at the end is very telling. I'd keep an eye on it, that's the trinity for a long drinking career. If you need to talk, pm me. Hang in there man.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MajorMatt on May 29, 2014, 06:52:26 AM
Thanks for the response RJ. I'm gonna try and up my game in terms of keeping an eye on things. I may take up your PM offer, thanks.  :)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: aurorablind on June 03, 2014, 10:53:23 PM
So, a couple of monts back I was diagnosed with Bipolar disorder (type 2). Kinda sucks!
After almost three months of severe depression and beeing hospitalized for three weeks Im starting to feel better.
It´s pretty wierd, but I feel a kind of relief. For almost 11 years I´ve had the feeling that something wasn´t completely right.
I couldn´t understand why i had these long periods with depression, sometimes for no reason at all. And all of a sudden I get these short periods where I feel on top of the world, with the strength to manage anything.
It finally makes sense, and it feels ok to finally have a diagnose.
At the same time I feel a bit hopeless, since i know this is a cronic disease that i have to live with for the rest of my life.
Thankfully we have one of the best health systems in the world in Norway, and medications for this type of disorder have come a long way the last 10-20 years.
So.. thats my story!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Phoenix87x on June 15, 2014, 06:00:04 AM
Father's day isn't so much fun for someone who never met their Father.

I'll just hang out in here today.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cable on June 15, 2014, 07:11:14 AM
So, a couple of monts back I was diagnosed with Bipolar disorder (type 2). Kinda sucks!
After almost three months of severe depression and beeing hospitalized for three weeks Im starting to feel better.
It´s pretty wierd, but I feel a kind of relief. For almost 11 years I´ve had the feeling that something wasn´t completely right.
I couldn´t understand why i had these long periods with depression, sometimes for no reason at all. And all of a sudden I get these short periods where I feel on top of the world, with the strength to manage anything.
It finally makes sense, and it feels ok to finally have a diagnose.
At the same time I feel a bit hopeless, since i know this is a cronic disease that i have to live with for the rest of my life.
Thankfully we have one of the best health systems in the world in Norway, and medications for this type of disorder have come a long way the last 10-20 years.
So.. thats my story!


I am quite happy to hear you have found answers! Bipolar disorder is difficult, but you have made the right step! It is a shame there is no cure, as it's up there with others in being severe (and trivialized by society :-/), but view it as a completely managble condition.

Certainly medication will help, and is the primary wing of treatment for Bipolar. As a therapist, I do encourage you to try that as well. It can help with some of the smaller stuff, and build a support system among other things.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on June 15, 2014, 07:20:05 AM
I wonder if I am Bipolar...

Like - on Friday I went out for the day with my brother and his 4 year old & had a great time.

But as soon as we got back to the house after - I felt absolutely terrible - for no reason.

Just completely miserable.



Other times I can spend all day making a song and be really happy and proud of it.

Then I can get up the next day and listen to it - decide it's fucking dreadful and scrap it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Phoenix87x on June 15, 2014, 07:26:57 AM
I wonder if I am Bipolar...

Like - on Friday I went out for the day with my brother and his 4 year old & had a great time.

But as soon as we got back to the house after - I felt absolutely terrible - for no reason.

Just completely miserable.

I was experiencing that pretty much non-stop from age 20 up until 25. One day up, the next day down.

I would be wildly creative, triumphantly confident and ready conquer the entire world on one particular day, almost like "high on life" in a way, but then it would turn and all I wanted to do was be alone. I didn't feel joy, I felt almost nothingness. And the worst part was when people just wouldn't understand, and me not being able to explain.

This is a horrible feeling and I understand how hard it can be.

Here's an interesting video of Steven Fry explaining it a little bit and when I watched this, things kind of made more sense. And it also made me feel a lot better to know that I wasn't alone in this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqMcAeLWO9c
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: aurorablind on June 15, 2014, 08:09:47 AM
So, a couple of monts back I was diagnosed with Bipolar disorder (type 2). Kinda sucks!
After almost three months of severe depression and beeing hospitalized for three weeks Im starting to feel better.
It´s pretty wierd, but I feel a kind of relief. For almost 11 years I´ve had the feeling that something wasn´t completely right.
I couldn´t understand why i had these long periods with depression, sometimes for no reason at all. And all of a sudden I get these short periods where I feel on top of the world, with the strength to manage anything.
It finally makes sense, and it feels ok to finally have a diagnose.
At the same time I feel a bit hopeless, since i know this is a cronic disease that i have to live with for the rest of my life.
Thankfully we have one of the best health systems in the world in Norway, and medications for this type of disorder have come a long way the last 10-20 years.
So.. thats my story!


I am quite happy to hear you have found answers! Bipolar disorder is difficult, but you have made the right step! It is a shame there is no cure, as it's up there with others in being severe (and trivialized by society :-/), but view it as a completely managble condition.

Certainly medication will help, and is the primary wing of treatment for Bipolar. As a therapist, I do encourage you to try that as well. It can help with some of the smaller stuff, and build a support system among other things.

I am seeing a therapist weekly at the moment, and I always feel relieved when I leave. Just to have someone to bounce things off, and who understands the situation feels very rewarding.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Onno on August 29, 2014, 10:04:23 AM
So, I posted quite a long story in the Things That Piss Me Off thread a few days ago, but I feel it belongs in this thread. That, and I've had some followup shit to it. Quote of the original:

Things that piss me off, or rather fucked up my day and caused me to really stress out:

I finished my Earth Sciences Bachelor's degree at the University last month. Now, instead of doing a followup Earth Sciences Master's degree, I instead decided that although I liked my previous study, I wanted something with even more maths and physics, even though I was already focusing on that part of the Earth Sciences. So, I decided to start another Bachelor's degree, namely in Physics and Astronomy. It will take me three more years, but hey, I'm only 20 years old now, and life's for learning, right?

In Holland, when you start a second bachelor, you have to pay a much higher college fee if you have already finished one. However, if you enroll for your second bachelor while you're still doing your first bachelor, you pay the normal fees. It's complicated. And it will get even more complicated. Since I didn't want to pay five times as much on college fees, I enrolled for my second bachelor during my last semester. I passed my thesis and therefore was done with my bachelor Earth Sciences.

However, today (a week before my first Physics semester starts) I got an email that my college fees had changed. They were changed to the ridiculously high college fees one has to pay when starting a second bachelor after the first one. I was astounded, since I thought I'd done everything right by enrolling for Physics while I was still studying Earth Sciences. I quickly went to a Student Service centre for our University, where I was told that you have to enroll for you second bachelor while you are still doing your first AND have a month of overlap where you are actually doing both bachelors! Since I am done with ES already and my Physics doesn't start until next week I didn't have such an overlap. I simply cannot afford the high college fees, so I asked whether I could still fix it. They told me I had to apply for delay of graduation of my ES bachelor in order to create that one month of overlap. Now, the deadline for that delay application had already expired, but luckily I was able to speak to one of the study coordinators and my request will be discussed (and probably granted) during their next meeting on Thursday. So, in the end it'll probably be fixed after all, so that I can continue studying. I just can't afford the high fees. Man, that sure pissed me off.

TL;DR - Unclear instructions about enrolling for a second bachelor's degree in University almost caused me to have to pay college fees five times as high as normal. It will probably be fixed though, but it sure caused a shitload of stress.

Well, it wasn't fixed. The Board of Examiners which can make these decisions denied my request for delay of graduation. And why? Because I missed the fucking deadline. And why did I miss it? Well, because the information on the University website was unclear. I didn't know I had to have a month of overlap doing both bachelor studies rather than having enrolled for the second one while still doing the first one. It was not until Tuesday, when I received the email about the higher tuition fees for my next bachelor degree, that I realized my mistake. I was by then two weeks late with my delay of graduation request, but it just wasn't my fault. The only reason why the Board of Examiners denied my request was that I was too late. I spoke to guys at the University administration, and they said the Board of Examiners could still do it since I don't start my next Bachelor until Monday. But they won't do it.

I always did everything by the rules. A Bachelor's degree in Earth Science has a duration of three years, and I did it in three years. I worked for it. And now they're gonna punish me for something that I couldn't have fixed as a reward for that.
I can't pay 10000 euros each year for the next three years, and I really want to do Physics. This means that I practically can't really do anything useful until September 2015. I can work, that's true. But by the time I can finally start a Physics Bachelor degree I'll be 21 years old (almost 22). And by the time I will have graduated from that and graduated from a followup Master's degree I will be 26 years old. And I fucking hate it. I just want to study and learn things. I don't want to spend the next year working and doing nothing and basically waiting for September 2015 when I can finally start again. And all of this is due to some idiots who refuse to rectify one tiny administrative mistake by me that I couldn't do anything about. I feel so fucked up right now.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: chaossystem on August 29, 2014, 11:22:40 AM
Has anyone here ever been unable to shake a thing or things that happened a long time ago (minimum 20 years), to the point that it affects who they are now?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ? on August 31, 2014, 09:55:55 AM
*story*
Wow, that kind of bureaucracy really sucks! :-\ Stories like that make me appreciate the fact that there are no fees for students in Finland. Is it too late to choose the Master's degree you mentioned at the beginning, and would it have been less expensive?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Onno on August 31, 2014, 03:55:13 PM
Yeah, a Master's degree would have cost me normal tuition fees. That's about 2000 euros for a year. I can still enroll for that and start in Febuary, but I don't really know if I want that. I feel Physics is the one thing I really want to do. If I really can't to Physics in Utrecht unless I pay 10000 euros a year, I'll probably take half a year off, then do half a year of the Master's degree (I can at least try...) and then start Physics in a foreign (probably German) university in September 2015.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dark Castle on August 31, 2014, 05:40:54 PM
The administration on another forum I've frequented for years is starting to really make me question why I'm still there, which sucks, because it was one of the first forums I joined back in high school, and I've grown to become friends with many there.

Some loony dude completely hijacked a thread about a well known dude there who's in jail for something he's completely at fault with, but accepts he deserves what he got, and made it all about this quasi religious Big Brother is watching bullshit, so I reported his post, and replied to his post with a simple "Ugh :L"
Instead of that poster getting a chewing, I get a chewing because of this no one word posts rule mainly meant for newcomers who quickly try to build up post count(something necessary if you wanna hire artists for a game project you want to develop) and those who just don't want to add anything at all(think non-sequitor things), but instead of focusing on this dick that's taking somebody's ordeal as a platform for lunatic things, they focus on me expressing some general disgust towards that guy, and make it all about how it's not clear if I'm talking about that guy, or if my stomach hurts, or if my toe nail's stink(literally a mod told me he couldn't tell if I was expressing these) and would rather chew me out and tell me to tack on filler sentences to express the exact same point, than focus on the fact that this guy is going into multiple threads and making them about his weird as fuck agenda.

It's just frustrating. They also just cut me off(one of the admins, and one of the mods who I never really got along with long before he was a mod) and then just patronize me.
I feel like I'm either soon going to just get banned, or feel like I should leave, which will really suck, as I'll be leaving behind some good people who while I have them on Facebook, talk to them pretty much only on that forum.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ? on September 01, 2014, 01:26:23 AM
Yeah, a Master's degree would have cost me normal tuition fees. That's about 2000 euros for a year. I can still enroll for that and start in Febuary, but I don't really know if I want that. I feel Physics is the one thing I really want to do. If I really can't to Physics in Utrecht unless I pay 10000 euros a year, I'll probably take half a year off, then do half a year of the Master's degree (I can at least try...) and then start Physics in a foreign (probably German) university in September 2015.
Even if the Master's degree isn't totally your thing, it's worth at least trying until you get to start Physics, because even half a year of those studies can be of help to you later. But in the end it's your choice, and if you think you can spend that period more productively doing something else (like working), then do what feels right. :)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Onno on September 01, 2014, 04:34:53 AM
True, I'll probably start my Master's degree next February (I'm too late to start now) if the Physics thing doesn't work out. There's still a tiny chance I can fix it but I don't think it will work out. That means that the first half year from now will be a combination of working and turning my Earth Sciences bachelor thesis into a paper that may be published, something my thesis assessor suggested.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on September 01, 2014, 06:02:51 AM
The administration on another forum I've frequented for years is starting to really make me question why I'm still there, which sucks, because it was one of the first forums I joined back in high school, and I've grown to become friends with many there.

Some loony dude completely hijacked a thread about a well known dude there who's in jail for something he's completely at fault with, but accepts he deserves what he got, and made it all about this quasi religious Big Brother is watching bullshit, so I reported his post, and replied to his post with a simple "Ugh :L"
Instead of that poster getting a chewing, I get a chewing because of this no one word posts rule mainly meant for newcomers who quickly try to build up post count(something necessary if you wanna hire artists for a game project you want to develop) and those who just don't want to add anything at all(think non-sequitor things), but instead of focusing on this dick that's taking somebody's ordeal as a platform for lunatic things, they focus on me expressing some general disgust towards that guy, and make it all about how it's not clear if I'm talking about that guy, or if my stomach hurts, or if my toe nail's stink(literally a mod told me he couldn't tell if I was expressing these) and would rather chew me out and tell me to tack on filler sentences to express the exact same point, than focus on the fact that this guy is going into multiple threads and making them about his weird as fuck agenda.

It's just frustrating. They also just cut me off(one of the admins, and one of the mods who I never really got along with long before he was a mod) and then just patronize me.
I feel like I'm either soon going to just get banned, or feel like I should leave, which will really suck, as I'll be leaving behind some good people who while I have them on Facebook, talk to them pretty much only on that forum.

That's shite man.  Thankfully, I never got deep into any other forums.  This is my only online hangout. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dark Castle on September 20, 2014, 12:00:29 PM
I am lucky to have the friends I've made down here, and the opportunities that this school has given me, along with the strength of the degree I will get, but I still can't help but regret moving down here :(
Every time I see pictures of my friends back up in South Dakota, or read the local magazine from up there's blog I just think "what the fuck am I doing down here in Florida?"
I'll never be able to call Florida home, the beaches are great, the ocean and gulf are also amazing, and while moving to Colorado next year will be 100000x better, I still yearn for South Dakota/Minnesota.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on April 12, 2015, 06:43:03 AM
Wow... helluva bump here.  That's good I guess.

So, some may have noticed I haven't been posting much since Christmas.  Largely due to depression, and what some might call a mid-life crisis.  I'd call it (and I'm stealing this from a book I read recently) a mid-life unravelling... where I'm realizing the life I'm "supposed" to be living (ie, the live I am living) is not the life I really want to live.

Been doing a lot of soul searching, therapy, reading, self reflection... There are days where I feel I'm making progress, and days when I feel I'm getting deeper into this hole of not living the life I want.  There are a couple of things in my life (my kids, a successful career), that I adore, but others (marriage problems, extended family problems, lack of friendships) that continually trump the good of my kids and career.  I don't speak with my father or brother, I don't have any regular friendships (a few aquaintances), I don't do anything for myself that I enjoy (another reason why I haven't been around here), and then there's my marriage....

I adore my wife.  She's the love of my life, and my soul-mate.  But she also has some demons.  The cocktail of SAD, perimenopause, her belief systems (she's a high conflict personality), abandonment issues (which I also have), her own mid-life unravelling, other issues of her past, all stacked on top of how she was raised creates a shit-ton of conflict - which triggers my depression.  It's been a downward spiral for a few years where we are not giving (and thus receiving) the love we need from each other... again trigering a boat load of depression (for both of us).  And the past two winters here haven't helped anything... really triggering her SAD.  It's as though she's drowning in the sea of life, and I'm her life preserver.  It's draining... mentally, emotionally, and spiritually.

I know I've got a lot of my own issues from my past that affect my ability to help her, cope with her, and communicate effectively, which I'm working on.  The hardest part for me is that I don't see Mrs.Jingle putting in the same kind of effort to "us".  She just wants to magically click her heels three times, and have life be the way she wants it.  And for the most part, she also wants people (me, kids, friends, family) to just give her the things she wants/needs in her life, and then believes all will be a-ok.  Not quite sure how that's possible, as life is a two way street.  Give and take.  She gives a lot, but unfortuately (at least for me) it's she's not giving the things that I need. 

Not sure if this is making any sense or not, but that's (part of) the story here.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: bl5150 on April 12, 2015, 07:20:08 AM
Plenty of it makes sense to me mate - I can relate to a lot there.   I think music is my best and most reliable friend these days  :lol

Good to have you back , if a bit less frequently.  You have plenty of pals here who very much noticed your absence ,as I know you're aware.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Prog Snob on April 12, 2015, 08:14:40 AM
Chad, your situation mirrors mine somewhat. I can completely empathize with how you're feeling. For the last couple of years I have been falling deeper into this inconsolable depression. I'm an introvert to begin with. So when it  comes to me expressing how I feel and why I feel a certain way, I close up and it just builds up inside. People assume I have an attitude problem or something, which is definitely not the case. I don't like being forced to express myself and I can't do it naturally so it leaves me basically fucked. So over the last couple of years it has become worse and worse. I felt the same as you. i wasn't happy with my life. I felt like I couldn't be myself anymore. I wasn't doing things I enjoyed doing. I basically felt like a shell of my former self. My wife didn't know what was going on and she assumed it was her.

Fast forward to last year, my wife and I decide to see other people which ultimately ended up with us splitting up in November. She had already been dating someone for a few months and I was seeing a psychiatrist who put me on these terrible meds.  I was desperate to get better though. Between the depression and anxiety I needed something.  After a week on the meds, I had lost completely feeling in my right arm.  I couldn't do anything at all. I was a complete zombie and all I wanted to do was sleep. Not to mention the sexual side effects which to this day I am still slightly feeling. These pills were basically altering the chemicals in my brain. After I finally decided to call the doctor, he told me to stop taking the pills immediately.

I had been staying at my parents during this time because my wife kicked me out. However, my parents had enough of everything too so they kicked me out. I wound up sleeping in my car for a few days. Nobody even knew about it because I went about my regular life going to work and whatnot, so people just assumed I was fine. Meanwhile it was the dead of winter here and I spent the day in my car with the heat cranked up. I went back home to get some different clothes and my wife wanted to talk to me about our daughter. Now picture I'm just getting off these pills, so my right arm is completely useless, the side affects of stopping the pills included muscle twitching and spasming, I haven't showered or eaten in a few days, and I show up back home looking like a homeless guy.  When she opened the door and saw my condition she broke into tears.  She hadn't known how bad my condition was beforehand because she didn't want to hear it, but when she saw what lengths I went through to try and fix it, she started to understand. 

She took me in just to take care of me and to make sure I stayed off the pills and didn't go back to this demon girl I had been seeing when we decided to have our open relationship. So I stayed there for a few weeks until she saw I was eating better and feeling better and then finally decided that we both needed to move on.  However, at that point I wanted to fix things and I finally opened up to her about my problems.  At that point it was too late for her though, she was in too deep with this new guy and didn't want to risk losing him and then have me relapse or something.  Obviously I was still depressed and my anxiety was off the charts. I wound up getting my own place.

I finally decided to try going to a therapist again a couple of weeks ago. After about five minutes, I finally realized how screwed up my head must have been to other people.  The therapist, after only five minutes of telling her my issues, decided she was going to refer me to this clinic where I would have multiple people evaluate me and decide what is best for me moving forward. She said one person would not be able to handle getting me better and there was just too much going on in my head.  I think that hit me harder than I expected and after I left her office and went back to my car, I basically broke into tears because I just felt lost at that point. I felt like things were just piling up and besides the anxiety and depression, the therapist also confirmed something about myself that I had already assumed but wasn't certain.  I have extreme empath tendencies. She said most people learn to hone them and it actually becomes a benefit. However, she told me that I was letting them consume me completely and my ability to feel what somebody else was feeling was basically making me an antenna for human emotion.

Imagine you break someone's heart and you move on with your life because that's what happens normally.  Now imagine you break their heart but you can't let go because your heart is broken, not just because of losing them but because you are taking on their pain and it's doubling the emotional weight. And this wasn't just from my wife, because now I'm imagining my daughter living in the home of another man and imagining not seeing her everyday. I came really close...to just giving up. Even now, when I'm in this apartment alone, my mind wanders and that's when I have to either get out and go for a ride or just sit there and let everything consume me. I'm afraid of what will happen if I keep letting things consume me.  it's not something I can turn off like a switch. I try and fight it sometimes but it's overwhelming. It's going to take a lot to work on controlling these things. I go to the "panel of therapists", as I like to call it, this Thursday. I know they're going to try and put me on some kind of meds because just talking all of these things out will take forever to fix.  So I am hoping they give me something lighter this time that isn't going to chemically alter my brain.


**Sorry for the sloppy grammar.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on April 12, 2015, 11:02:09 AM
Bro hugs for all.


Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Podaar on April 13, 2015, 04:06:19 PM
All my best Chad! I can only empathise and offer best wishes.

:hug:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on April 15, 2015, 04:29:27 AM
Currently in the process of trying to move out of my old apartment.

Dad and I are trying to work out the best way to go about it as per the contract.

::) it seems like we have to pay for things that as an agency they should really be doing.

" If a new tenant is found and they agree to a reduced rent per month - you will pay the shortfall "

Err. Fuck off. I've moved out. It's none of my fucking concern.

" You will have the apartment professionally cleaned " ( this is in the notes for moving out they sent me after i gave my notice - i've not signed this and it's not part of the original contract.

Again - get to fuck. Show me in the contract where I agreed to this.

Losing a job and going through all this has been the most stressful thing ever.

I can't wait for it to be over.. :emo:

However - on the plus side - I like staying with my Grandad and the beach is a 10 min walk away and the weather has been

*amazing*. :) :) So that is helping calm the nerves !

Plus i've had a couple of interviews for coffee houses in town - so if I at least get a new job - I can cross that off the list...

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Phoenix87x on May 19, 2015, 04:03:44 PM
Its an Eeyore kind of day :(

(https://asg.animatedheroes.com/albums/classicpooh/Eeyore_cliff.jpg)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: adace on May 25, 2015, 04:00:52 AM
Hey guys, saw a psychiatrist for the first time on Friday for depression and anxiety. Got a prescription for 75 mg Wellbutrin. So far it's been a pretty mixed bag.

The initial dose on Friday was rough vis a vis side effects but I got through it (took half a pill). Saturday was great, no complaints (took only a quarter pill). Yesterday was terrible. Took half a pill. No dizziness or weird brain sensation like before but I felt super depressed and have had intrusive thoughts.

Hopefully as time passes and I increase the dose it'll all even out.

Just curious to hear your thoughts/experience with Wellbutrin. Seems like it's a real roller coaster ride.

I'd also like to know if anyone's taken Buspar/Buspirone. I took some hydroxyzine for anxiety but that made me really drowsy more than anything else so I'd definitely like to switch it.


Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: bout to crash on May 25, 2015, 12:14:37 PM
I was on Wellbutrin in high school and didn't notice much of a difference. I was excited to try it because it also sometimes helps folks lose weight and stop smoking, but it did neither for me (though it didn't make me GAIN weight like other meds I tried later).

When you say intrusive thoughts, what exactly do you mean? Was this an issue before you started taking the med? I'm sure you know this, but Wellbutrin is one of the antidepressants with the "black box" warning of potential increased suicidal thoughts. I'm not sure how old you are, because it's mostly an adolescent/young adult thing from what I understand, but just be wary of this if you notice thoughts that are out of the ordinary.

I should have posted in this thread last night when I hated the world. Today I'm a bit better, thankfully.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on May 25, 2015, 01:37:25 PM
:( So I moved to be closer to family near the sea, got a nice new job and a new bike ( albeit which needs a service )...And a few other things have turned out really positive.


...so why did I just tear up last night out of the blue ?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: adace on May 25, 2015, 07:07:42 PM
I was on Wellbutrin in high school and didn't notice much of a difference. I was excited to try it because it also sometimes helps folks lose weight and stop smoking, but it did neither for me (though it didn't make me GAIN weight like other meds I tried later).

When you say intrusive thoughts, what exactly do you mean? Was this an issue before you started taking the med? I'm sure you know this, but Wellbutrin is one of the antidepressants with the "black box" warning of potential increased suicidal thoughts. I'm not sure how old you are, because it's mostly an adolescent/young adult thing from what I understand, but just be wary of this if you notice thoughts that are out of the ordinary.

I should have posted in this thread last night when I hated the world. Today I'm a bit better, thankfully.
Well, I haven't had any thoughts or depressive that out of the ordinary per se. It's just that it was pretty jarring for me to have such a lousy day while taking Wellbutrin, especially after the fantastic Saturday I had. Guess I'll just have to get used to the ups and downs.

Anyways, today was pretty good. Only took a quarter pill and it seemed to work well enough.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: mike099 on May 25, 2015, 07:34:58 PM
I have anxiety problems, so a few years ago the doctor put me on celexa and also a script for Ativan.  The Ativan is only as needed.  When I first started the celexa, it made me very sleepy, but after a week or so it evened out.  Just saying that you may want to stick with the Wullbutrin to see if your body adjusts.

Hoping you get better!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: adace on May 25, 2015, 08:53:04 PM
I have anxiety problems, so a few years ago the doctor put me on celexa and also a script for Ativan.  The Ativan is only as needed.  When I first started the celexa, it made me very sleepy, but after a week or so it evened out.  Just saying that you may want to stick with the Wullbutrin to see if your body adjusts.

Hoping you get better!
Thanks! I can tell this stuff is helping already so I definitely plan to stick with it and gradually ramp up the dose over the next few weeks.

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Chino on May 26, 2015, 05:55:41 AM
:( So I moved to be closer to family near the sea, got a nice new job and a new bike ( albeit which needs a service )...And a few other things have turned out really positive.


...so why did I just tear up last night out of the blue ?

Probably because you still have a lot to do. You have a pretty good thing going, but it sounds like your family being in the situation they are is what makes your current situation possible. You're very fortunate that you could lose a job and be able to get another one, a new bike, and relocate by the ocean. Maybe there's a level of guilt in there somewhere. I used to break down now and then at college because I kept fucking up and just so happened to have a dad that could support it financially. I felt guilty about the fact that there were a lot of people that didn't even have the option to go to college and there I was getting a third and fourth chance.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on May 26, 2015, 03:23:18 PM
I get emotional at everything at the moment.

I'm sorting things out though and my situation in Reading wasn't the nicest. I enjoyed my job but where I lived was very stressful.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cable on May 27, 2015, 11:48:13 PM
I get emotional at everything at the moment.

I'm sorting things out though and my situation in Reading wasn't the nicest. I enjoyed my job but where I lived was very stressful.


What was where you left; Friends, significant other? Was the community and lifestyle a better fit for you there, vs. by your folks? Do you think moving closer to your parents is a positive, or a negative thing? Do you enjoy some level of stress, but not to the levels where you were before?

Or are things ultimately looking better now? Tears of course can go both ways.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ZKX-2099 on May 28, 2015, 08:28:30 AM
The Ultimate Warrior is still dead.  :-\
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on May 28, 2015, 09:23:44 AM
I get emotional at everything at the moment.

I'm sorting things out though and my situation in Reading wasn't the nicest. I enjoyed my job but where I lived was very stressful.


What was where you left; Friends, significant other? Was the community and lifestyle a better fit for you there, vs. by your folks? Do you think moving closer to your parents is a positive, or a negative thing? Do you enjoy some level of stress, but not to the levels where you were before?

Or are things ultimately looking better now? Tears of course can go both ways.

1. I liked my job at Starbucks but I didn't have any "friends" that I saw regularly. Only colleagues.

2. I liked my flat but my neighbours were pretty noisy and that was pretty stressful.

3. I liked where I lived - It was a short walk to a huge park area.

4. I wasn't very far from my bro's house and often caught the train to his place to watch movies and stay over.


But now - I have my own transport - a new job that I like - i'm currently living with relatives & near the beach. I have actual friends nearby that I can go and visit.

I suppose some of the stress of moving and the heartbreak of losing another job are still lingering. But It could be much worse.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MetalMike06 on May 31, 2015, 08:08:38 PM
Been in pretty bad shape financially and emotionally lately.

I got a certification a couple years ago for a pretty neat field in aviation. I did great in the class, and felt really good about my abilities to do that job. Since then, however, I've still not been able to get a job in it, even though others in my class got jobs relatively quickly.

I got laid off from a job in December (didn't pay much but it was a foot in the door of the industry), and about a month ago I had to take a menial overnight job with no benefits nearby, just to keep a roof over my head (I was getting unemployment previously but it wasn't really enough to live on).

At this point, I'm literally sleeping on the floor in a sleeping bag, in a furniture-less apartment, because I can't afford a bed, eat mostly eggs every day, and will be going into more debt going back to school this summer (something I tried to avoid for a long time, but obviously to stay competitive in the job hunt I need to finish).

I always had the attitude that "money isn't everything", but obviously my lack of it has been bogging down every other area of my life. For example, I can't date because what woman wants to date a guy that's broke and stocks shelves overnight?

On top of this, I have just about no friends where I live, and it's hard to make them since I also have social anxiety (example - a couple weekends ago I tried going to a party with my roommate, and after a few minutes standing around, had to go sit in the car because I was so scared; I didn't know anybody there).

My parents have not offered any real help, and I don't blame them; I'm in my late 20s now and have yet to really succeed at anything.

Life sucks pretty hard at the moment, but I still somehow manage to see some light at the end of the tunnel.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Onno on June 01, 2015, 02:36:10 AM
That sucks man, good luck with that. But keep going and you will pull through. If you're going back to school this summer, that might just provide you the extra skills/certificates/qualifications to be able to get a job. Once you have a job, you can start sorting out the other things. Good luck!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on June 01, 2015, 08:35:35 AM
You'd be surprised how much people are willing to help.

When I lost my Starbucks job I was inconsolable. I wrote an email to Dad apologising for being such a monumental fuck up and he said he'd help me out with whatever I needed.

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: took_the_time11 on June 01, 2015, 02:07:37 PM
I've been socially frustrated. I've always been more introverted and I embrace that. However I feel alienated trying to get involved with people. I know people like me I just get really anxious and lose confidence. Also, I'm in the same damn musical rut I've been in for a while. I've played guitar for 5 years. I just can't connect mentally. Also, I get really disorganized and forget things. These things are brought on by ADHD and the symptoms of that often lead to anxiety/depression. Fuck, today I really wanted to die inside.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: adace on June 02, 2015, 03:52:01 AM
I've been socially frustrated. I've always been more introverted and I embrace that. However I feel alienated trying to get involved with people. I know people like me I just get really anxious and lose confidence.
Fellow social anxiety sufferer here. For me, just getting the motivation to apply for a job takes monumental effort because I'm absolutely terrified of interviews and get serious anxiety before I go to them. In general, I'm just really scared to meet new people because I'm constantly thinking about them judging me. I know it's totally irrational but the mind can be an extremely hard beast to tame. And the depression doesn't help matters either.

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Lucien on June 08, 2015, 02:33:02 PM
Didn't know where else to put this. It's a fake Calvin and Hobbes strip, and holy shit is it depressing.

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Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on June 08, 2015, 04:11:13 PM
I've been socially frustrated. I've always been more introverted and I embrace that. However I feel alienated trying to get involved with people. I know people like me I just get really anxious and lose confidence.
Fellow social anxiety sufferer here. For me, just getting the motivation to apply for a job takes monumental effort because I'm absolutely terrified of interviews and get serious anxiety before I go to them. In general, I'm just really scared to meet new people because I'm constantly thinking about them judging me. I know it's totally irrational but the mind can be an extremely hard beast to tame. And the depression doesn't help matters either.

Anyone else *hate* big family get togethers and knowing you'll be surrounded by people ALL DAY and they'll all want to know all about you - what you're doing now - what you've been doing recently and what you wanna do ?

Almost torture for me.





EDIT : And yes - any job interview where you have to GET INTO GROUPS AND / OR TALK ABOUT YOURSELF are a fucking nightmare.  >:(

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cable on June 08, 2015, 09:38:54 PM
^ I used to feel that way, and still do from time to time. My hang-ups were in the past were not being social at that time, and at other times feeling I have not accomplished much. So I can relate to that. I long for family get-togethers now; there will usually be awkward moments, and/or individuals. I also live away, so that makes them more sweet. But when putting the circle of life into it, and the positive supports many families provides, it would be hard to shun them. I get how they can be so-long-and-tedious though.

And big resounding "YES" about the group interviews. I think they are beneficial if it is the middle out of at least three interviews. The most beneficial is the group you will be working with is there.  But if it is with a group of candidates, that is awful. I know it helps weed out people, and does it efficiently. But if someone has issues speaking in front of, or with a group, that is an awful way to determine fit. More so if it is the first or last, determining the final pick. Many people warm up to group members and people overall, but it's unfair to think an extrovert would be a better fit than introvert.

Shoot, my job is basically ALL ABOUT being an extrovert, when I lean more introverted. Yet I do just fine.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Metro on June 19, 2015, 08:36:48 PM
Just drove 8 hours back home only to find out my best friend has cancer.

He has a few weeks to a month to live.
Fuck everything.

(https://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd382/Metropolaris/cat_zpskualpypw.jpg) (https://s1217.photobucket.com/user/Metropolaris/media/cat_zpskualpypw.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: eric42434224 on June 19, 2015, 08:39:33 PM
Your best friend is a cat?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Metro on June 19, 2015, 08:45:26 PM
Your best friend is a cat?

Yeah. I'm pathetic like that. Sue me.

He's been the only constant thing in my life for the past decade. Life was already shit recently this is just the cherry on top, I guess.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: eric42434224 on June 19, 2015, 08:57:11 PM
Your best friend is a cat?

Yeah. I'm pathetic like that. Sue me.

He's been the only constant thing in my life for the past decade. Life was already shit recently this is just the cherry on top, I guess.

I am sorry to hear that.  Both that you are in a place in your life where you do not have a close relationship with other people, and that the one relationship in life you value is ending.  I lost my beloved dog Stella last year and it still affects me.  I hope you not only heal from your loss, but that you can eventually develop relationships with other people.  Good luck through this difficult time.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on June 21, 2015, 12:35:14 PM
:( :hug:
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Post by: Dr. DTVT on June 22, 2015, 05:43:44 PM
I see my human friends once a week, tops.

I wake up with my dog, I hang out with him every day, and I go to sleep with him curled up at my feet.  So that probably makes him my best friend too.  Nothing wrong with that.  I'll be more upset when he passes than a lot of people I know, and I've been through that before.  Much love to you Metropolaris. Make the most of the rest of your time together.  :hug:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cable on June 26, 2015, 09:15:06 PM
Fuck you the US Mail.  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(

I have had an increasing amount of problems, but never as much at my current address. I bought a detached condo, which is great except for a few things. One of them being a shared mailbox strip (like an apartment). Also, the complex made addresses within one digit of each other. Which doesn't make a lot of sense, because the other streets don't start in the same range (thousands digits), nor is the city big yet where the development is.

So the US mail. I guess the close addresses throws them off. This is not only a courier issue, but a sorting issue. I have had at least 5 mis-delivered pieces of mail in my box, off by a digit or two. Secondly, I had an envelope that was destined to go to Florida come to Ohio because the return address digits were the same as mine.

I had my professional license upgrade delayed, due to untimely mis-delivery. As a result, I could have been passed over for my pending position, all thanks to the US Mail.

Further, I have had two checks NOT come to my house on time, with one needing to be reissued. And of the course the top of the mountain, two packages now delivered to the WRONG FUCKING ADDRESS. Also, someone else's package was delivered to my house, so that actually is three basically. And of course packages have a monetary value, with some not been insured, or some not through a big cooperation. I know it's probably a federal crime, but who can really trace a mis-delivered package when someone kept the contents? Further, this one indicated that it was delivered to a box. No way to track it, and no way to keep the fucker accountable. I had a mis-delivered iPod before that was my fault, and the person opened it and all. I'm sure they gave it a whirl, before thanks be to FedEx came to their door to take it back.

Lived here for many years one would think? Nope, a little less than 1.5 years.

I have sent a letter UPS before, and paid 10 more dollars because USPS is such a piece of shit. I'm really sorry that the internet destroyed most of their business, and I do not envy couriers, especially ones who walk up to every residence. However, my complex does not have one of those, and the person can sit at one location and dump mail in. And they know what they got into, so just do your fucking job and do it well. Some people really depend on stuff that gets sent through you. If I didn't have a total lack of faith in them, I would throw more shipping business their way.

These are little mistakes that I would have probably been fired for in a past career, doing rank & file. Instead, I have to just take it because it is USPS. I never dealt with a sorrier bunch of rank-and-file incompetence in my life, and my present gig has complete fools for rank-&-file staff.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on June 27, 2015, 12:23:00 AM
USPS sucks balls.


Wow will admit I am drunk... and I started going through old emails from my ex. It's fucking insane how in sync we were. How in lovve we were and all that shit.

:sadpanda:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on June 27, 2015, 06:07:24 PM
LOLAVARIUM
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on June 27, 2015, 06:08:20 PM
Finally bought a new inner tube. A new tyre. Got a garage to fit it.

Put the back wheel back on.

Went to start her up.

Noticed the clutch lever was just hanging off.

FOR.

FUCKS.

SAKE.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Chino on June 29, 2015, 07:31:18 AM
Perhaps the universe is telling you something. Maybe you're destined to own your own motorcycle repair shop/used bike dealership and will become a super successful businessman.

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on June 29, 2015, 03:32:34 PM
It's ok - we got a replacement the day after.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Sub Luna Vitrea on September 12, 2015, 11:51:14 AM
not sure why i'm posting this here, i haven't been here in months, and before that it was years.

my friend sophia committed suicide. she is the second friend of mine who has killed herself. in the last week i have talked two people out of suicide, and then yesterday i suddenly found out about her, and it was like what the fuck, i could have told her what i told those two people, and i can't now, i never will be able to tell her that it will be ok if she just waits it out, and i want to so bad, that's all i want to tell her is that it will be ok, and i never can.

i've been talking to an amazing guy on okcupid, but i told him today i couldn't go meet him at the park because i'm an emotional wreck over my friend, and he understood.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dr. DTVT on September 12, 2015, 12:57:46 PM
A friend's suicide is always a mindfuck, I'm sorry for your loss.  Don't shoulder any of the blame or play "What if..." games.  It's pointless and will just drag you down.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on September 12, 2015, 01:23:25 PM
 :'( :-* :'( :-* :'( :-*

:hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Sub Luna Vitrea on September 12, 2015, 01:27:55 PM
thank you. on an intellectual level i know not to blame myself or to play "what if?", i've been through this once before with someone else. on an emotional level it is tearing me up.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Sub Luna Vitrea on September 15, 2015, 10:18:26 AM
I wrote myself a little note this morning:

"You are grieving. Your emotions and perceptions are less reliable than usual."

It has been somewhat helpful for me to keep from flipping out on people.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Fiery Winds on September 16, 2015, 06:49:28 PM
I wrote myself a little note this morning:

"You are grieving. Your emotions and perceptions are less reliable than usual."

It has been somewhat helpful for me to keep from flipping out on people.


So sorry for your loss. Writing notes like that is a really good idea. I do something similar where I vocalize self-encouraging phrases (like on the drive in to work). A couple years ago I could go days without hearing my own voice, and this was really helpful in bringing my attention away from the mental chatter and focusing on the present moment. Over time, I noticed my enthusiasm and content grow more positive.


Hang in there, you're doing OK.  :tup
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Sub Luna Vitrea on September 17, 2015, 03:32:07 PM
I wrote myself a little note this morning:

"You are grieving. Your emotions and perceptions are less reliable than usual."

It has been somewhat helpful for me to keep from flipping out on people.


So sorry for your loss. Writing notes like that is a really good idea. I do something similar where I vocalize self-encouraging phrases (like on the drive in to work). A couple years ago I could go days without hearing my own voice, and this was really helpful in bringing my attention away from the mental chatter and focusing on the present moment. Over time, I noticed my enthusiasm and content grow more positive.


Hang in there, you're doing OK.  :tup

Thank you!

I saw my counselor last night and received the best news I've received in a long time. For most of my 20s (starting at age 21), I was diagnosed with a very severe and disabling mental illness, but it turns out that I don't have it. I was misdiagnosed. It had been gender dysphoria all along, and transitioning (I'm a trans woman) has cleared it all away.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Calvin6s on September 17, 2015, 10:21:31 PM
thank you. on an intellectual level i know not to blame myself or to play "what if?", i've been through this once before with someone else. on an emotional level it is tearing me up.
We aren't supposed to play what if, but from my experience, it is human nature.  I'm sure it has more to do with hoping you discover something by going over it in your head so you might have a chance to do what you wished you were given the opportunity this time.  It isn't your burden, but you are still going to try to do everything you can to prevent it.

More importantly, do you feel vulnerable yourself right now?  Do you just need somebody to talk to that is far enough removed from your inner circle so you don't have to worry about creating new vulnerabilities?  There are far better people than me here for this, but if even just unloading some thoughts safely will give you some level of catharsis, feel free to PM.  Or at least check in on this thread each day so we know you are pulling through the worst of it.  We care.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Calvin6s on September 17, 2015, 10:26:25 PM
Been in pretty bad shape financially and emotionally lately.
I'm hoping things have improved for you.  Can you give us an update?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Sub Luna Vitrea on September 19, 2015, 02:38:27 AM
I'm OK... this is unrelated to my friend's suicide, but another friend told me something yesterday that has made me feel a lot less angry at the world. She told me she thought I was an empath, and so I looked up what an "empath" was, and I was very shocked to find out that not everyone was like that. At first this made me very sad, but now it has helped me be less frustrated, less angry with everyone for not doing something about all the pain that so many other people are in. They can't help it because they can't feel it, which makes me a lot less angry at them than I would be if they could feel it. I feel so much more at peace all of a sudden.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Sub Luna Vitrea on October 27, 2015, 07:54:54 AM
I feel both extremely depressed and completely hopeless at the same time. I have tried everything, and everything has just been one false promise after another. Whether that false promise was drugs, or religion, or cults like AA, or psychiatry, it has never, ever delivered on its promise, and I have simply been taken advantage of while being indoctrinated with various forms of bullshit and, in some cases (like psychiatry), having my human rights taken away.

I feel beyond help at this point. There are some things I have never tried, like cognitive-behavioral therapy, but I am worried that this is just another cult or false promise. I have a hard time believing anyone anymore about anything. I don't want to see a therapist or anyone at all, really. Life is maddening.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Calvin6s on November 10, 2015, 10:00:52 PM
Are things getting any better Sub Luna?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Sub Luna Vitrea on November 12, 2015, 04:42:48 AM
Ah, yes! I'm sorry for leaving that in the thread and not coming back to it to update you. Things are slowly getting better, and I have not needed any medication thus far. Have been doing self-directed CBT out of a book by SMART Recovery.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cable on November 13, 2015, 08:14:48 PM
^ CBT is an extremely standard therapy Sub Luna, so perfect choice.  ;D  It probably is the most common, as it kind of cuts right to the core quickly. A modality of treatment I use is a modified version of it, which I think is better. But regardless, CBT is solid as it built on a couple of things before it (Beck-Cognitive and Behavioral-Wolpe).
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on December 20, 2015, 06:05:22 AM
Fuck cancer!

My sisters ex-husbands wifes daughter was diagnosed with a brain tumor about a year ago. They have since been in a rollercoaster of emotions because one day they get the message from the doctor that she respons well to the treatment and the next week/month it's the oposite and that's pretty much how it's been the whole year for them. About a month ago they were told that the tumor had grown so much that there were nothing more to do and yesterday she sadly passed away. 15 years old with her whole life in front of her! Luckily as i've understood she didn't have any pain she only feel asleep and didn't wake up which of course is atleast some relief for her parents.
I don't have kids but to see your kid fade away like that (because that's basically what happend the last two month) must be a parents worst nightmare and mostly for the fact that you can't do one fucking thing about it. As a parent you're there to protect your kid and when you can't do that it must be horrible.

RIP Jasmine
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on December 20, 2015, 06:13:33 AM
I couldn't even begin to imagine.  My kids are 15, so yeah, that's gotta be ... well, there's no word in the English language to describe that amount of pain.

Fuck cancer.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on January 08, 2016, 06:50:48 PM
Late response to Boom-- :hug:

I've kind of been on autopilot since last Saturday - a really good friend of mine in a MMORPG that we both play died from complications from a bad case of the flu on New Year's Day. The angry part of this is that he was a low-paid wage earner with no health insurance and had hesitated to seek medical attention. I almost begged him to seek medical attention regardless, simply because he was a good friend and I was worried that he seemed to be getting worse and not better.

The depressed part? Well, besides a good friend dying way too young (he was 33)... we'd gotten really close in a short period of time. We were supposed to meet in person the week of Saint Patrick's Day to see if what we were both feeling was worth pursuing (which I kind of think it would have been but that could be hindsight talking).

I'm gutted. I didn't want to believe it. We had a routine/ritual that I don't have anymore, and it hurts so much because he was a truly good, kind, and compassionate person. His service is tomorrow, but I chose not to go because of the cost of last-minute plane fare and the fact that I honestly think it would be a little awkward since most of his family didn't know how close we really were. So what I did, since his family couldn't afford the service/burial... I sent a check to his memorial fund. I'm not disclosing the amount (and it's really irrelevant imo) but I know that his family will appreciate it.

I'm just left with this... hole where my close friend used to be, and I miss his daily texts/phone calls/duet gaming. I have a truly wonderful support system but... it's the wee hours of the morning that are the toughest, because that's when we would game and talk and laugh and just... be.

RIP Dom... I'll never forget you. :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on January 09, 2016, 04:48:46 AM
Big hugs Deb.  Some might not understand the power of an online friendship, but we here at DTF know better.  I can't begin to imagine your sorrow, because I sure as shit know I'd feel the same way about quite a few people here.

:hug:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on January 09, 2016, 05:20:44 AM
Deb, I'm so sorry. Itsent so unfair to see someone gone so early in life.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Onno on January 09, 2016, 05:49:03 AM
Sorry to hear that Deb. Hang in there.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Prog Snob on January 09, 2016, 07:42:48 AM
I'm sorry, Deb.  If you need to talk, you know where to find me.

Hey, maybe this will put smile on your face.  My daughter just saw the hugging emoticon and she said "awww how tute."
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ? on January 09, 2016, 08:47:01 AM
Wow, 33 is way too young... :( Hang in there, Deb. :hug:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 09, 2016, 08:53:40 AM
This is heartbreaking....so sorry to hear this :'(   Praying for comfort to find you....
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on January 10, 2016, 05:00:04 PM
Thanks SO much, everyone. :hug:

I really don't like the term "closure"... however, that said, my friend's service did indeed happen yesterday and by all accounts (so far, anyway) it appears to have pulled his estranged brothers back together. I remember Nick (not OUR Nick, my friend Nick/Dominus) telling me that the divorce of his parents fairly close to the time he graduated really kind of tore his family apart. He described it as "all of a sudden one day, my mother didn't want to be married to my father anymore, and my mother is the type of person that whatever she wants she gets". He'd also mentioned something about it being related to his father being out of work and the job that he got was out of state and his mother wasn't willing to move to Texas from Missouri. Kind of a shallow reason if you ask me, but ANYWAY... it's sad that it took my friend dying for his brothers to mend fences but--and speaking from first-hand knowledge--divorce does really WEIRD things to a kid's mind, regardless of how old they are when it happens.

What I take away from it is a sense of relief, more for his family and a little for me, that his service is in the books. You can never truly heal from something like this, you just accept... remember... and move forward from here. That's what I'm trying to do. That's really all I *can* do at this point, and I don't think he would want me to be overly sad about him not being in this life anymore. After all... what we have been is what we are.

I'll still have my moments on this, though, but... yeah.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on January 10, 2016, 05:15:40 PM
Deb, so beautifully put.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DebraKadabra on January 11, 2016, 12:29:54 AM
Thanks king. Appreciate it muchly. :hug:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MoraWintersoul on April 19, 2016, 12:38:55 PM
Feeling awkward about shit in general. I've been depressed forever, I felt like I regressed as a person in every way possible, then finally got my shit together because I'm supposed to figure out a move to Norway (since my boyfriend got a job there). Wanted to study, start a music blog, the good stuff, but it turns out three aneurysms had to burst in my mom's brain. She's totes fine now and there's no damage and she's coming home soon, but all the stress is catching up to me.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Hyperplex on April 19, 2016, 12:44:43 PM
I wish I had an answer or remedy for dealing with stress. My stress responses feel so destructive whenever they happen. Between being depressed and suffering from anxiety, when things get bad, it becomes nearly impossible for me to function. I get such a tight feeling in my chest and throughout my body that it's as if I'm aging 10 years for every minute I exist. When I was out of work, every minute felt like a hammer beating me down with failure and I didn't know how to deal.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MoraWintersoul on April 19, 2016, 01:52:01 PM
I almost feel like it would be easier to deal with if it happened to me. In the past five years, my dad died, my mom had a huge benign tumor in her brain taken out and my brother had testicular cancer. They are both okay, but man is life kicking my family's ass right now or what.

I get such a tight feeling in my chest and throughout my body that it's as if I'm aging 10 years for every minute I exist.
This is just the worst feeling. Hope you're doing better right now! There is positive stress and there is negative stress, and negative stress absolutely comes back to bite you in the ass and there's nothing we can do about it sadly. I'm trying super hard to be as zen as possible, but then other people dump their emotional load on you because "you seem to be handling this situation so much better than me, so you're not in need of help, come comfort me" and it's like... ugh, I worked very hard on feeling okay and it gets taken away from me every single time.

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Hyperplex on April 19, 2016, 01:55:04 PM
Helplessness is one of the worst feelings in the world; when you can do absolutely nothing but sit, wait, stew, and worry. It's horrible.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MoraWintersoul on April 19, 2016, 02:00:13 PM
I find that some of my compulsive worrying has its roots in magical thinking (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_thinking), it's almost as if I think that, if I worry enough, I have paid my dues and nothing bad is going to happen. But even if nothing bad happens, you've paid your price in worrying about it already. Maybe it's a trait you also have; I find it helpful to drive my obsessive thoughts away by catching them early on and repeating to myself "you're a rational person and this thought process is just ridiculous".
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Hyperplex on April 19, 2016, 02:08:28 PM
I find my worry is simply an overwhelming desire to be in control. I HATE loose ends, I HATE not being in control of my own "destiny" so to speak. And I hate not always being able to help those I love. Helplessness, hopelessness, uselessness...all goes in hand.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: splent on April 19, 2016, 04:29:02 PM
I went to click in this thread, and noticed I posted in it before... in 2010. Wow.

Anyways, I'm going through some pretty tough shit again... I feel like I owe the whole world money, we are barely scraping by as it is. I wish I could just move to another country and start over sometimes.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Calvin6s on April 19, 2016, 04:57:49 PM
I went to click in this thread, and noticed I posted in it before... in 2010. Wow.

Anyways, I'm going through some pretty tough shit again... I feel like I owe the whole world money, we are barely scraping by as it is. I wish I could just move to another country and start over sometimes.

The only positive thought is that you used the word *again*, which hopefully gives you just enough confidence to know you have the proven ability to get through the pretty tough shit. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: splent on April 19, 2016, 05:05:46 PM
I went to click in this thread, and noticed I posted in it before... in 2010. Wow.

Anyways, I'm going through some pretty tough shit again... I feel like I owe the whole world money, we are barely scraping by as it is. I wish I could just move to another country and start over sometimes.

The only positive thought is that you used the word *again*, which hopefully gives you just enough confidence to know you have the proven ability to get through the pretty tough shit.

Yep. And there are a ton of people who are worse off. I have a roof over my head and a family who loves me.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Calvin6s on April 19, 2016, 05:44:45 PM
Yep. And there are a ton of people who are worse off. I have a roof over my head and a family who loves me.

I know that only goes so far and can start to sound like a generic "thoughts and prayers" that people like to throw out there almost as a Pavlovian response more than holding anything of value. 

I also cringe when I hear two common response paths:
1.  Everything you are doing is right.  It is the world around you that is wrong.  F them
2.  You must be doing something wrong and aren't working hard enough / smart enough.

Unfortunately life isn't like a video game.  You get one play.  The extra lives come from external sources.  For instance, a friend or relative loaning you some money because they know it is harder to get out of the hole once you are in it.  I've been on the *easier* side of that equation and have given out "getting through it" money more times than I can recall.  What is awful is when the equation flips and now you need a temporary band aid so the wound doesn't keep getting worse and the people you helped before won't pay it forward (or back).
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: splent on April 19, 2016, 05:56:37 PM
Yep. And there are a ton of people who are worse off. I have a roof over my head and a family who loves me.

I know that only goes so far and can start to sound like a generic "thoughts and prayers" that people like to throw out there almost as a Pavlovian response more than holding anything of value. 

I also cringe when I hear two common response paths:
1.  Everything you are doing is right.  It is the world around you that is wrong.  F them
2.  You must be doing something wrong and aren't working hard enough / smart enough.

Unfortunately life isn't like a video game.  You get one play.  The extra lives come from external sources.  For instance, a friend or relative loaning you some money because they know it is harder to get out of the hole once you are in it.  I've been on the *easier* side of that equation and have given out "getting through it" money more times than I can recall.  What is awful is when the equation flips and now you need a temporary band aid so the wound doesn't keep getting worse and the people you helped before won't pay it forward (or back).

No I understand. But being a teacher I've seen it all. I've seen kids who are homeless, beaten, parents going through drug problems, parents/siblings/family members in jail, my wife taught kids who's mother was murdered... so yeah. I think I'm doing ok in the grand scheme of things. Is it all sparkly and ideal? Hell no. It sucks. But it could suck way worse. Some days I'll feel this way, and some days I'll feel overwhelmed with money (well lack of it) hanging over my head. I'm just going to keep doing the best I can.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Calvin6s on April 19, 2016, 06:24:59 PM
No I understand. But being a teacher I've seen it all.
Probably the best thing you have going for you is a steady paycheck.  It is easier to budget when your income remains relatively constant.  And if you need to take some risk by creating some cash "extras", things like the stock market are there for you.

The worst thing about the steady paycheck is it can create a sense of "this is as good as it is going to get, and it isn't exactly great" feeling.

Maybe you should create a new thread about "extra sources of income".  Extra being the key word. It should never put the main source of income in jeopardy.  It shouldn't necessarily be seen as a replacement or even future replacement.

But maybe some other DTF members can offer ideas on what they do to bring in some supplemental income.  Something that is relatively low up front start up costs and offers modest returns with minimal work.  And if the work is a little more involved, make sure it is something that doesn't feel as much like work.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on April 20, 2016, 03:48:32 AM
Not as much pissed off but nervous as fuck. Starting this new job in 5 days. I'm scared shitless that I am going to fuck it up and wind up with nothing. People say "You're smart. You havethis in the bag"... I don't know. Like... I really haven't a clue about what I am getting myself into. And I ahve no support from home. Panda, whatever she is to me (we aren't together. She swears up and down that we arent... but then get's pissed off when I take an extra shift with my job for overtime because she wants to spend time together... wtf?) basically keeps telling me I am going to fail and keeps saying this is a bad idea.

Benefits. Opprotunities for advancement. starting at almost twice my pay. How the FUCK do I not take the job? I know it's not going to be glamorous.. but it's going to be worht it in the long run... right?

ANd I am also still fucking bummed (see lonely hearts thread) that the ONE girl who has shown ANY interest in me lately is my brother's ex. (Also going through a divorce and has a kid)... but still.. It's fucking wiht my head..
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Logain Ablar on April 20, 2016, 04:52:06 AM
Not as much pissed off but nervous as fuck. Starting this new job in 5 days. I'm scared shitless that I am going to fuck it up and wind up with nothing. People say "You're smart. You havethis in the bag"... I don't know. Like... I really haven't a clue about what I am getting myself into. And I ahve no support from home. Panda, whatever she is to me (we aren't together. She swears up and down that we arent... but then get's pissed off when I take an extra shift with my job for overtime because she wants to spend time together... wtf?) basically keeps telling me I am going to fail and keeps saying this is a bad idea.

Benefits. Opprotunities for advancement. starting at almost twice my pay. How the FUCK do I not take the job? I know it's not going to be glamorous.. but it's going to be worht it in the long run... right?

Dude, I am the last person to give anyone else advice, but I went through 4 different jobs in the period between 2010 - 2015, for various reasons. It was very unsettling to say the least, and a huge pain starting from scratch each time to learn new stuff. Thankfully, I'm in a good job now, and have been for the last year or so. The pay is good (for me anyway), and the people I work with are very cool, and free of any big egos.

The point is that once you get the work situation sorted out and stable, it can mean a lot for your own mental wellbeing!

Hope it works out for you!  :tup
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Calvin6s on April 20, 2016, 04:54:54 AM
Not as much pissed off but nervous as fuck. Starting this new job in 5 days. I'm scared shitless that I am going to fuck it up and wind up with nothing.
This is probably a natural reaction for a good number of people. I know it is for me.  I wish I had the answer, but it just might be the way we are built.

Is this a job (public sector?) that has responsibilities that you have experience and training in or did you challenge yourself by aiming above your comfort zone?  Those can be some of the most rewarding jobs.  Push yourself extremely hard the first 2 to 4 weeks.  Take work home or learn relative skills while off the clock (assuming that is possible, which it almost always is).  If you are gonna go down, go down swinging.  But odds are, you won't go down.  You will either a) outright impress your superiors with your output or b) impress your superiors with your dedication giving them hope that any reduced output will soon be corrected and most likely surpassed.

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basically keeps telling me I am going to fail and keeps saying this is a bad idea.
Panda says this?  Maybe she's afraid your new paycheck and new peers will put her on the outside?  But still, that's messed up.  Even when I think somebody is making a mistake, once they've made that decision, you go into support mode.  And not just with "thatta boy" and "you can do it".    Tell them why they can make it happen.  I'd tell her she not only isn't helping, but she better stop it or whatever relationship you have isn't going to work out.

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Benefits. Opprotunities for advancement. starting at almost twice my pay. How the FUCK do I not take the job? I know it's not going to be glamorous.. but it's going to be worht it in the long run... right?
What is the job?  (if you don't want to get into specifics, I understand)

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ANd I am also still fucking bummed (see lonely hearts thread) that the ONE girl who has shown ANY interest in me lately is my brother's ex. (Also going through a divorce and has a kid)... but still.. It's fucking wiht my head..
I'd put that out of your mind.  There are too many women out there to even entertain a sibling's ex.  This is what you take from it.  Her interest is a result of her getting to know you.  That says more about you than her.  It means you will find somebody with genuine interest if you get in enough relationships that allow them to get to know you.  Not just when a group is out at dinner or an event.  But when you are just hanging out "doing nothin'" and everybody becomes more honest/real and less "party switch on".

My humble advice is
a) kick ass at this new job by putting in the dedication (especially off the clock) the first few weeks or however long it takes for your peers to at least say "you're doing a good job" (in a meaningful, not obligatory way)

b) Resist the urge to spend this extra money.  Maybe set aside a couple hundred dollars for some kind of reward, but then consider anything above bill payment "reserve build up"

c) If you have any serious debt, attack highest interest/fee/penalty first.

d) If you have the ability to talk shop with peers that aren't in your direct department or job description, make that a "relationship" priority.  Nothing impresses an employer more than an employee that not only has their job description / productivity down, but an understanding beyond it, which usually leads to innovation development.

e) Once that reserve is built up, bills are handled and budget in check, set up a relatively big reward.  It doesn't matter what it is as long as it is something you really want (within reason).  Then get right back into building that reserve.  Why stop at 6 months?  Make it 7.  Maybe one day it will be up to 3 years which could be seed money for that business you always wanted to start.

f) That *one* chick suddenly notices your new found happiness and Panda/Ex-brother wife becomes the "I can't believe I settled on that" chick.

Honestly, your doors are opening.  I'm jealous.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on April 20, 2016, 05:00:59 AM
Basically I am going to be a case worker for public assistant programs with the county here.

Sorry for the short response. I may be a bid (or a lot) drunk. :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Lynxo on April 20, 2016, 05:33:13 AM
After being depressed for over a year and going through so many different states of denial, I've finally bit the bullet and made an appointment to talk to someone. This depressed state started happening when my girlfriend broke up with me, though I suspect the issue is much deeper than that. It was the exact same thing when a previous ex broke up with me, only back then I'd figured it was normal being depressed like that, having no experience and nobody to talk to.
The thing that made me take this step is when I lashed out at my closest friend, only because I was feeling lonely. It made me feel horrible so I came clean with her about my problems and she in turn pushed me to seek help.

I have no idea what to expect but I'm nervous as all hell. I'm afraid that this won't help, that nothing's going to change. Which to me, is much scarier than not going at all.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Calvin6s on April 20, 2016, 05:36:43 AM
I have no idea what to expect but I'm nervous as all hell. I'm afraid that this won't help, that nothing's going to change. Which to me, is much scarier than not going at all.

Think of this as the worst case scenario of going (nothing changing or helping) is the best case scenario of not going.  Congrats on taking the brave step.  Hoping the best for you.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Calvin6s on April 20, 2016, 05:37:29 AM
Basically I am going to be a case worker for public assistant programs with the county here.

That sounds great.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Prog Snob on April 20, 2016, 05:44:35 AM
I'm not depressed or angry, which is rare for me. But now I've come to help those who are. Come, my children. Sit on my knee for a horsie ride.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Logain Ablar on April 20, 2016, 06:27:27 AM
I'm not depressed or angry, which is rare for me. But now I've come to help those who are. Come, my children. Sit on my knee for a horsie ride.

So wrong..  :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on September 04, 2016, 09:02:28 AM
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Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on February 20, 2017, 05:15:16 PM
Major Bump

So... Like.. I've been in a funk since October.. since I lost that job. My "home" life hasn't improved. I got really attached to someone over the internet who really helped me out.. probably the only reason I didn't like kill myself was because of this person. I opened up to this person. Told them things I've never really told other people. Yes, it was a female, but it wasn't a romantic relationship. Just a close friendship.  This person did something recently that really crushed me...  Like I already have trust issues, and now.. idk.

I've been talking to my cousin (who lives out of state.. she's always been a rock for me.. even if we literally haven't seen each other in.. 15 years.) who is talking me into looking into free counseling.

I know I've always had issues, but they keep getting worse. Loneliness. I can spend a weekend out of town with my 3 closest friends (NAMM a few months ago)... and still feel completely alone. Also such a fear of being forgotten that it makes me paranoid. Constant feeling of just.. emptiness. Almost suicidal (I'm not going to kill myself. That's a big commitment that I am not willing to make, but if something were to happen to me, accidentally, Oh well...). I've also been doing a lot of drinking. I don't know. I need to find a way to make this stop.   
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on February 20, 2017, 05:17:03 PM
As predicted I'm going to suggest therapy and not drinking like that.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on February 20, 2017, 06:21:08 PM
Sorry to hear about all the troubles Jay. Therapy will do wonders. Not drinking will be an immediate help, not only on your mental health but also physically.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on February 21, 2017, 04:18:07 AM
So my cousin recommended a place (she isn't local so it was just via searches she found it), and I mentioned my shit I am going through to one of my closest friends, and he recommended the same place. So I think next week I'll call start looking into it.

I'll admit... the idea scares the shit out of me, but also intrigues me. I was in therapy in my early teens for ADHD and possible depression, and I really didn't like it as the therapist literally divulged everything I fucking said to my stepmother, who was making me go. But I kinda almost got into a car accident last night on my way home from work. A combination of just being emotion to the point where I was numb, plus getting off of a 12 hour shift, and not having eaten in 25 hours, I kinda just zoned out and took a turn too hard, in the rain, and spun out. That's kinda also an eye opener.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on February 21, 2017, 06:31:04 AM
Best of luck Jay. Also if you don't think you like a therapist for whatever reason you can always look for another. Some people just don't click with their therapist.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on February 26, 2017, 04:46:07 PM
So I am doing a bad thing and putting off seeing someone till next month. The reason being that I may still be eligible for help through the court system, (my dad's death and all).. I have another day in court regarding that on March 20 (ironically what woulda been my dad's 63rd birthday)... So i am going to look into it then.

Also.. I haven't drank in a few days. So yea. I'm going to try to stay away from that.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on February 26, 2017, 04:48:59 PM
So I am doing a bad thing and putting off seeing someone till next month. The reason being that I may still be eligible for help through the court system, (my dad's death and all).. I have another day in court regarding that on March 20 (ironically what woulda been my dad's 63rd birthday)... So i am going to look into it then.

Also.. I haven't drank in a few days. So yea. I'm going to try to stay away from that.


You're doing just fine with all of that. You're trying to make the best decision for yourself financially and you're still looking into it all, that's not a bad thing at all.

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Prog Snob on February 26, 2017, 07:28:44 PM
As predicted I'm going to suggest therapy and not drinking like that.

I'm going to suggest the opposite.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on February 26, 2017, 08:44:51 PM
As predicted I'm going to suggest therapy and not drinking like that.

I'm going to suggest the opposite.


Go on
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on February 26, 2017, 08:50:47 PM
As predicted I'm going to suggest therapy and not drinking like that.

I'm going to suggest the opposite.

I don't know if you're trying to be funny or contrary because it's me, but actually suggesting someone not seek any help and just drink more alcohol is very dangerous.

Jay's an adult and can make his own decisions, but please show a little responsibility.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Prog Snob on February 26, 2017, 09:55:08 PM
As predicted I'm going to suggest therapy and not drinking like that.

I'm going to suggest the opposite.


Go on

There's nothing wrong with having a few drinks to relax yourself, but at the end of the day you need to man up and deal with the situation.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on February 26, 2017, 09:56:26 PM
Having a few drinks after a hard day to relax and drinking a lot to numb out depression are not the same thing and you know it.

He wasn't talking about relaxing.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Prog Snob on February 26, 2017, 10:36:41 PM
Where did I say it's the same thing? Stop focusing on what I'm saying because you have a shitty habit of misconstruing it. All I said was that it's okay to have a few drinks but at the end of the day the problem needs to be dealt with. How is that so impossible to understand? I made no mention of approving of what he's doing.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on February 26, 2017, 10:37:39 PM
I said to stop drinking to the extent that he was and to seek help. You literally said to do the opposite. The opposite is excessive drinking and not seeking help. I didn't misconstrue anything.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on February 26, 2017, 10:50:01 PM
Guys.

I should have put the go on in green.

and on the topic of drinking.. as I've gotten "older" I've noticed such a difference in my drinking.. depression drinking vs social drinking. I'm gonna stay away from alcohol for a little bit.. but if say.. I found myself at a bar with my buddy or something.. I'd get shitfaced with out second thought.

Addiction runs in my family. My mother was an alcoholic. Ok.. is an alcoholic. That's why the depression drinking scares me.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on February 26, 2017, 11:31:42 PM
THIS ISN'T ABOUT YOU JAY!



Sorry, had to.

But I think that's a really good insight to have. I've worked with a lot of addicts, and I can tell you that insight into why you drink is one of the most important things someone can have.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on February 26, 2017, 11:44:09 PM
I've always tried to be so self aware of everything. I may have shitty self-worth and self-identity, but I am at least self aware. That's why, (and I'm getting real here)... I'm still alive. The times in my life where I've had thoughts of ending things.. I've been aware enough of myself and my life to know that that isn't the best of ideas. It's a big commitment and I have commitment issues.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Prog Snob on February 27, 2017, 02:02:18 AM
I said to stop drinking to the extent that he was and to seek help. You literally said to do the opposite. The opposite is excessive drinking and not seeking help. I didn't misconstrue anything.

shhhh
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cable on February 27, 2017, 10:14:40 PM
Yeah I'm with Adami, being in the same/related professional field.

Addiction in its many forms is not really a moderation game. Especially if it's "depressed drinking" as JayO said, vs. "social" drinking. For someone in addiction, having a few is not a good long-term healthy option. And addiction isn't limited to just booze, street drugs, caffeine, gambling and tobacco. It permeates into many other realms, with gambling being an example. I also extend using unhealthy coping to beyond addiction, and to procrastination and trying to ignore problems via doing something else. And the unhealthy things we pick often activate the fun brain chemicals more effectively.

An internal bargaining process begins as I tell my clients/patients. For example; (self talk) time 1- just one beer, you deserve it. Really hard day, real hard event. That's it. 2- dude, that beer was awesome the other day. I bet having two will makes things even easier, and better. Then that's it. 3-well hey, I did fine with those two. Johnny has some weed, how about a coupe of beers and weed?

It then goes on and on. If someone can manage it, drink whatever amount, then deal with the problem. Then deal with the problem more.

I do not think Adami was getting at being judgmental about JayO's drinking, or the act of drinking anyway.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on July 30, 2017, 04:46:08 AM
It's actually refreshing that this thread has been inactive for so long.  Bumping, in case The Count missed this thread.

My depression has been ... dormant ... for a while - ironically, since I became unemployed.  Hope everyone else that frequents this thread is doing well.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on July 30, 2017, 09:04:17 AM
Define "well" :lol

Glad it's been dormant for you Chad. It's nice to breath once and a while and not feel the weight of... something something poetic something...
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on July 30, 2017, 03:37:29 PM
Define "well" :lol

No, you (everyone really) are responsible for defining it yourself.  My "well" may not be anyone else's "well".
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on July 30, 2017, 04:19:36 PM
It's actually refreshing that this thread has been inactive for so long.  Bumping, in case The Count missed this thread.

My depression has been ... dormant ... for a while - ironically, since I became unemployed.  Hope everyone else that frequents this thread is doing well.

I've got to say Chad work is the biggest culprit that causes many issues for me.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on July 30, 2017, 06:39:17 PM
Define "well" :lol

No, you (everyone really) are responsible for defining it yourself.  My "well" may not be anyone else's "well".

Fucking deep man. Deep.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on July 30, 2017, 07:08:01 PM
It's actually refreshing that this thread has been inactive for so long.  Bumping, in case The Count missed this thread.

My depression has been ... dormant ... for a while - ironically, since I became unemployed.  Hope everyone else that frequents this thread is doing well.

I've got to say Chad work is the biggest culprit that causes many issues for me.

Work was a huge burden for me for quite some time.  Relieving that burden allowed me to focus on other things that helped me address my depression - reading, exercising, more time with/for the jingle.family etc...  The real effort will come when I get back to a job/career, and how much I can balance everything.


Define "well" :lol

No, you (everyone really) are responsible for defining it yourself.  My "well" may not be anyone else's "well".

Fucking deep man. Deep.

Well....  :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on August 08, 2017, 08:06:37 PM
I'm generally a pretty calm dude. It takes a lot to make me upset. I'm rather understanding and don't hold grudges.

So......


I'm on summer break for August from school (getting my doctorate in psychology) and was having fun after an awful summer semester with a horrible spiteful teacher. I was pretty confident I passed and I was happy to be done with it.

So then Friday I got an e-mail saying I was officially accused of cheating on the final exam by this dude.

Then I got a call from the girl who I was supposed to have cheat off of, and she's being accused of plagiarism.

Turns out there's 7 of us being accused of various things and he wants to fail all of us. So, naturally, people were pretty pissed off. Me? I was nervous, but not angry. Maybe the dude really thought I cheated. I get it, we're all human, we make mistakes. As long as I can argue that I didn't.

But then today I saw his score on my final paper. Dude gave ma C. Now is this such a crime? Nah. Maybe he just hated my paper despite never getting below a B on a paper in the past 5 years. But sure.

However, there's a catch. He allowed anyone to send him the paper ahead of time, get his feedback and make changes before final submission. Cool!

So I sent it off, and he wrote back saying it was a good paper, and looked good. Told me to make a few minor changes, which I did, all of them. Then he gives me a C.

NOW I'm pissed. That is not cool. You don't say it's good and then mark me off for stuff you never mentioned before.


Prettttttty close to killing Jay right now.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on August 08, 2017, 08:16:29 PM
Prettttttty close to killing Jay right now.

I totally wouldn't mind.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cable on August 08, 2017, 08:37:34 PM
I'm generally a pretty calm dude. It takes a lot to make me upset. I'm rather understanding and don't hold grudges.

So......


I'm on summer break for August from school (getting my doctorate in psychology) and was having fun after an awful summer semester with a horrible spiteful teacher. I was pretty confident I passed and I was happy to be done with it.

So then Friday I got an e-mail saying I was officially accused of cheating on the final exam by this dude.

Then I got a call from the girl who I was supposed to have cheat off of, and she's being accused of plagiarism.

Turns out there's 7 of us being accused of various things and he wants to fail all of us. So, naturally, people were pretty pissed off. Me? I was nervous, but not angry. Maybe the dude really thought I cheated. I get it, we're all human, we make mistakes. As long as I can argue that I didn't.

But then today I saw his score on my final paper. Dude gave ma C. Now is this such a crime? Nah. Maybe he just hated my paper despite never getting below a B on a paper in the past 5 years. But sure.

However, there's a catch. He allowed anyone to send him the paper ahead of time, get his feedback and make changes before final submission. Cool!

So I sent it off, and he wrote back saying it was a good paper, and looked good. Told me to make a few minor changes, which I did, all of them. Then he gives me a C.

NOW I'm pissed. That is not cool. You don't say it's good and then mark me off for stuff you never mentioned before.


Prettttttty close to killing Jay right now.


 :tdwn
This guy can go eat a bag. Yeah that's futzing ridonkulous Adami. From my perspective, plagiarism isn't on the table in doctorate programs. But for this guy to look to fail people, when people do well, is a failure on him. I always take teaching and instructing as if people cannot pass or do well, that's my fault for not making is understandable as possible. This is all beyond that for this guy from the sounds of it. And I never get that how some professors take pride in X% of people fail my class.

Did this guy just get denied tenure or something, and is taking it out on everyone?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on August 08, 2017, 08:42:48 PM
Oh yea, so he is not even a licensed psychologist yet. He graduated not too long ago but hasn't taken the exam yet.

And this is his first year teaching and they made him a core faculty. Dude has never taught a day in his life and he became a core faculty for a doctoral level psychology program?

I didn't even mention just how awful of a teacher he is and that we had no choice but to take him. We all took him last semester too and filed a ton of complaints against him for his teaching. Dude is untouchable for some reason. No idea why.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on August 08, 2017, 08:43:36 PM
Fuck that dude. Seriously.


Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on August 08, 2017, 08:49:54 PM
Fuck that dude. Seriously.

With a razor lined dildo? Sure!


So in 9 days I have a disciplinary meeting to determine what happens.

This COULD result in me failing the test, losing 5000 dollars in aid that I wouldn't have had to repay, having to stay in school another year to retake the class (presumably with the same teacher), and lose the possibility of an APA approved internship, thus essentially ruining my entire academic future.

Thanks dude. Glad you feel powerful now.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Enitan on January 18, 2018, 09:14:45 PM
Is it really true that medical marijuana can help you combat stress? I have been reading some of this article that marijuana (https://www.bonzaseeds.com/blog/the-white/) can help them cope with stress and it helps them relax. I haven't tried using marijuana but i plan to to help me with my stress but i dont know where to start. Can anyone give me any info that can help? Thanks!!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lonestar on January 18, 2018, 10:35:09 PM
Interesting first post...


I'd say it's against the forum rules to seek advice concerning illicit drugs, but I'm in Cali and weed is legal here now, so I guess it isn't illicit anymore. :lol

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: The Curious Orange on January 19, 2018, 03:41:47 AM
Is it really true that medical marijuana can help you combat stress? I have been reading some of this article that marijuana (https://www.bonzaseeds.com/blog/the-white/) can help them cope with stress and it helps them relax. I haven't tried using marijuana but i plan to to help me with my stress but i dont know where to start. Can anyone give me any info that can help? Thanks!!

It's like booze - having a drink with a few friends at a bar or at a party is a great idea and a wonderful social lubricant. If you're drinking every day, or when you're alone, or to cope with the stresses of the day, then you've got a problem.
The fact you say you're thinking of it as a way to combat stress makes me say don't. Make time to relax and de-stress. Try listening to some relaxing music, have a nice mug of warm milk, have a long soak in a hot bath. Hell, try the old "gentleman's one-handed relaxation technique". They're all better ways to relax and de-stress.
The fact you asked the question means you already know the answer.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dave_Manchester on January 25, 2018, 05:48:15 AM
Fuck that dude. Seriously.

With a razor lined dildo? Sure!


So in 9 days I have a disciplinary meeting to determine what happens.

This COULD result in me failing the test, losing 5000 dollars in aid that I wouldn't have had to repay, having to stay in school another year to retake the class (presumably with the same teacher), and lose the possibility of an APA approved internship, thus essentially ruining my entire academic future.

Thanks dude. Glad you feel powerful now.

What was the outcome of this story? What happened at the disciplinary meeting?

I once worked with a guy who sounds similar to the one you descibed. Full of issues and fears, which he 'fought' against by manipulating people through the silly positions of 'authority' he would covet.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on January 25, 2018, 10:13:04 AM
Is it really true that medical marijuana can help you combat stress? I have been reading some of this article that marijuana (https://www.bonzaseeds.com/blog/the-white/) can help them cope with stress and it helps them relax. I haven't tried using marijuana but i plan to to help me with my stress but i dont know where to start. Can anyone give me any info that can help? Thanks!!

It's like booze - having a drink with a few friends at a bar or at a party is a great idea and a wonderful social lubricant. If you're drinking every day, or when you're alone, or to cope with the stresses of the day, then you've got a problem.
The fact you say you're thinking of it as a way to combat stress makes me say don't. Make time to relax and de-stress. Try listening to some relaxing music, have a nice mug of warm milk, have a long soak in a hot bath. Hell, try the old "gentleman's one-handed relaxation technique". They're all better ways to relax and de-stress.
The fact you asked the question means you already know the answer.

Yeah, I agree with this.  If I came on here and said "yeah, having a rough patch - kids, wife, job - and thinking of pounding a fifth of vodka or scotch, which would you go with?"  I'd hope at least one kind, rational soul says "Hey, look, enjoy your liquor but you might want to rethink your strategy here...".   

Fix your stress, don't just put a bandaid on it.   
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on January 25, 2018, 10:14:05 AM
Oh man, thanks for reminding me!

So the disciplinary meeting went just fine. The people involved were very supportive and nice and were basically rolling their eyes at the charges in general.

A month later I was officially cleared of all charges, passed the class and it was all dropped.

I wasn't done however. So I was one of like 10 people accused of something, and one of the few who got off. So myself and a bunch of other people formally submitted grievances about the teacher at hand.

This resulted in multiple phone calls/meetings with high ups at the school.

That teacher no longer works for the school.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Chino on January 25, 2018, 10:18:23 AM
Oh man, thanks for reminding me!

So the disciplinary meeting went just fine. The people involved were very supportive and nice and were basically rolling their eyes at the charges in general.

A month later I was officially cleared of all charges, passed the class and it was all dropped.

I wasn't done however. So I was one of like 10 people accused of something, and one of the few who got off. So myself and a bunch of other people formally submitted grievances about the teacher at hand.

This resulted in multiple phone calls/meetings with high ups at the school.

That teacher no longer works for the school.

When I went to WCSU, I had a professor for Microeconomics who may have been the worst professor I have ever had. It was his first year teaching, and the dude was straight off a boat from Nigeria. You could understand about every 8th word he said.

Anyway, 35 people started the class. I was one of 7 who stuck around to take the final. All 7 of us who took the final failed the class. A couple of us made quite a stink over it. We got refunded for the class and the guy got put on academic probation. He was gone the following semester.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on January 25, 2018, 10:28:24 AM
Had a similar situation at UConn.   I switched into Engineering after my first two years, and so had to take a ton of prerequisite classes, sometimes concurrently or out of order, with the help of a sympathetic adviser.   One class - Mechanics of Materials - was a first year class, but I didn't get to take it until Spring of my fourth year (I took five years to graduate).   Now, in my last four semesters I literally got all A's, except for one D, in that class.  Among other things, he claimed I didn't turn in any homework.  I went in to talk with him, and he said that, so I produced ALL the homework, WITH HIS GRADE ON TOP.   He said "you could have produced that after the fact".  I'm like, you just told me you had no homework grades, and standing right in front of you I pulled them out?  What am I, Doug fucking Henning (this was 1989)?   
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jammindude on January 25, 2018, 11:11:11 PM
Hi....I’m the guy who has never vented on DTF before. 

3 years ago, a wonderful mother of 3 from my congregation (and a friend in music...one of the few I had) was out on a motorcycle excursion with her family in Northern California.   A logging truck spilled.  Her husband (also my friend) broke his spine.  The two sons were out in front and missed everything.   She was killed instantly. 

A year and a half ago, an older friend of mine succomed to cancer.....one year later, his son who was only 35 (and a close friend of my son) also died of cancer. 

In March of 2017 my mother in law (who my wife and I had been taking care of in our home for 12 years) died at the age of 92.

2 months ago, a dear friend that I was once very close to, but had lost touch with, died of a heart attack.  (Don’t wait to tell someone how much they mean to you).

1 week later, my brothers best friend died of liver failure.   I had 2 funerals in two weeks.....3 in one month. 

And just to put the cherry on top....the holidays are particularly hard on people.    My company has had 3 suicides in the last month.  One I knew personally (though not for very long)...a second one I had no contact with at all.   The third was only 27 years old, and an apprentice of a close friend.  What’s even worse was that this kid called him to say “I’m setting my house on fire, please come pick up my pet snake”, then hung up.   My friend didn’t get there fast enough.   The kid committed “suicide by cop” because he decided to come out with all guns blazing when the cops showed up to respond to the fire.    Think what you want about the kid...but he left people behind who will never be the same...especially my friend.   

And just being surrounded by death (on top of being the full time cargiver to my wife who is disabled both physically and mentally (bipolar)) had put me in a pretty deep state of funk.   

I am seeing a therapist next week.   My regular therapist moved out of my area...and actually told me before she left that she didnt think I needed therapy at all.....but that was before ALL OF THIS happened.   

Can I be done with death for a little while please????
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Anguyen92 on March 16, 2018, 09:27:26 PM
Hey guys.  Apologies for the bump.  I'm not really one to open up at all in an online forum, but here goes.

I think I am feeling depression for whatever reason, and I do think it's starting to affect the way I interact with people at work (and I'm introverted as it is).  I think my co-workers are getting annoyed about how I speak to them and the way I approach certain things that goes with the job (nothing unethical or immoral, but they see it as a redundancy that's not needed like asking a lot of questions and being relatively noisy of what they did to approach certain scenarios).  The fact that I know this sort of observation is happening, and it is not the way I wanted my work relationships to be, is making me feel worst.

I honestly do not have the right approach on how to resolve this issue that's happening with me and it's making me feel like I don't want to do anything at all.  Where do I begin?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on March 17, 2018, 07:20:20 AM
I honestly do not have the right approach on how to resolve this issue that's happening with me and it's making me feel like I don't want to do anything at all.  Where do I begin?

That's certainly a symptom of depression.  If this behaviour at work is new for you, my suggestion would be to not necessarily focus on addressing that behaviour specifically, but rather the deeper issue of depression (assuming this is what you have).  Do some research into depression to see if it really might be that, vs just one specific issue swirling around in your mind at the moment.  Personally, I used themighty.com and sicknotweak.com.  Beyond that, do things that you love to do - whatever that might be.  Force yourself to do it - nothing is worse than living inside a depressed mind - our own voices can be the worst and most damaging sometimes.

And remember, there's a difference between depression and being sad/worried/upset/in a funk/etc...
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on June 05, 2018, 03:34:29 PM
So...

I learned some family info that is really throwing me for an emotional roller coaster. I don't plan on sharing it publicly... but I am also not sure how I want to go about handling it.

Ever feel so completely betrayed that you become sick to your stomach?

Yea.

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Phoenix87x on June 05, 2018, 06:55:38 PM
So...

I learned some family info that is really throwing me for an emotional roller coaster. I don't plan on sharing it publicly... but I am also not sure how I want to go about handling it.

Ever feel so completely betrayed that you become sick to your stomach?

Yea.

Yes. Definitely.

When me and my uncle had a falling out, he went to my grandmother and said I hated her and hated living with her. (I was happily living with her at the time and I had no where else to go)

So he lied to hurt me. and if this would have been escalated, then I would have been homeless.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on October 15, 2018, 01:20:33 PM
I'm more angry at myself over this for being clumpsy and not paying attention enough.

Last monday at 7:45 pm I tripped on a manhole cover and fell down like a tree into the asphalt. I tried to regain my balance with my feet but I think instead I build up momentum so I had more energy when I fell down making it a much harder impact. I managed to protect my head with my right hand which broke my pinky finger. My right knee also tried to stop the fall with the result of a broken kneecap in 4 pieces.

I've never called 112 (911), never broken any bone in my body or any serious injury, never ride in a ambulance, never had a surgery, never been anesthetized and never been immobilized so I had to use a wheelchair.
All those things happened within 1 week.

SOB!

Long story short: I went through all of that and now i'm home feeling like a 90 yo with a 36 yo body. Hell my 90 yo father is more mobile than me. Taking a shower went from 5 mins to ruffly an hour.

I'm mad at myself for being so clumpsy yet everthing happened so quickly.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on October 15, 2018, 03:40:03 PM
Mother fucker... that's a helluva fall.  I'm cringing just thinking about it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: cramx3 on October 15, 2018, 03:46:07 PM
Damn thats rough, hope you have a speedy recovery
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on October 15, 2018, 06:32:20 PM
Mother fucker... that's a helluva fall.  I'm cringing just thinking about it.
The way I figured out something was seriously wrong with my leg was when a bystander tried to help me up and when I put some weight on my right leg it bent to the RIGHT...now that's not right.  :D What's even weirder, it never really hurt that much.

Damn thats rough, hope you have a speedy recovery
Thanks, despite all this I still never felt any strong pain not until after the surgery that's when I started to feel pain in my knee but that also fade away after two days.
After 7 weeks they will take of the support I have on my leg to keep it straight and then some rehab so according to the doctor I will be back in action in december depending on how the healing process is going.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on October 31, 2018, 06:26:57 AM
I finally got free from my cast on my right arm. So nice to be able to move my fingers even though my fingers are very stiff, have to say just by trying to move my fingers after 30mins it already felt much better.  :)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on April 12, 2019, 11:40:04 AM
Bump

Been kind of down this last few weeks. Car is pretty much not driveable... it's got some major issues plus I finally got a ticket for my obliterated tail light, which I am trying to fix tomorrow (my car probably wont pass an inspection for the cheap $25 fix it ticket, so I still will have to take the fine with payments and hope I don't run into an asshole cop who wants to find something else wrong with it).

My GF is on a week long trip with her dad (all paid for by her grandparents essentially). I haven't had a true vacation (minus a 3 day weekend) since 2013, and don't foresee one anytime soon.

I am supposed to be going to physical therapy for my wrist / nerve issues, seeing my doctor for other issues, and seeing a shrink for mental health shit, but I stopped going to physical therapy due to not having a fucking car to drive out 2 cities away 2x a week (totally ignoring the costs atm), and same thing for the other doctor shit. I have my GF's car, but that won't be any help next week when she gets back. Her schedule is so crazy when she is actually here that I really can't use her car for anything.


I am sick of getting treated like a second class citizen at work. I know... people just say "Oh find another job." It's not that simple. Plus, at the rate things are going, my company may very well lose this account in the next few months. I almost hope it happens so I am forced to find new employment.

The job thing also kind of goes hand in hand with the fact that we are supposed to be moving in 2 months. Where? No clue. If it wasn't for my job we'd move out of state. As it stands, it would be really irresponsible for me to quit a stable, full time job and walk away.

My mother, who moved up north, came down to stay with me while my GF is gone to watch after the dogs (our smaller dog doesn't do well alone, especially for 9-10 hours a day). She was supposed to help me get another beater car while she was down here, but financially it looks like it isn't happening now.

I don't know. I need to vent. Shit's starting to get to me again.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dublagent66 on April 12, 2019, 04:13:17 PM
I have a question.  Is it possible to be depressed and not even realize it?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on April 12, 2019, 08:17:37 PM
Damn Jay it sounds like it's not just raining but pouring. I hope some things start looking up soon! If you were to leave your job do you have any idea what you'd want to do, would you try and stick to the same type of work you're doing now?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on April 12, 2019, 08:29:26 PM
I have a question.  Is it possible to be depressed and not even realize it?

Yes.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on April 13, 2019, 05:41:20 AM
Jay, that's rough to hear. Really wish some of us were close, so we could do more than just type some words on a screen that we hope don't sound meaningless.

Plus, at the rate things are going, my company may very well lose this account in the next few months. I almost hope it happens so I am forced to find new employment.

I've been there. You're most likely right - los No the account - and your job - just might be for the best. Terrible work situations can be a huge contributor to depression - I know that first hand.

:brohug:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on April 15, 2019, 09:10:23 AM
Damn Jay it sounds like it's not just raining but pouring. I hope some things start looking up soon! If you were to leave your job do you have any idea what you'd want to do, would you try and stick to the same type of work you're doing now?

I really don't know. I'd love to get out of security, and I hope that the 5 or 6 years experience I have in management here (one way or another) can help me, but that really is all I have going for me. No degrees or anything. I do have a good friend who manages the southern branch of a security company comparable to the one I currently work for, who is actually gunning for our account. I doubt that he'll get it,  as I know their bid isn't going to be cheap, but if they do, I will continue on here, and probably make a tad more money. If that doesn't happen, his company is also working on a very lucrative contract (with a local government agency) , and if that pulls through, he might bring me on as part of the management team (I'd be helping oversee like 90 people).
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ruba on May 30, 2019, 08:04:43 AM
I have to admit it. I have a drinking problem.

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/3oKHWBy6GFcLdEhH0Y/giphy.gif?cid=790b76115cefe0596131444545af40c8&rid=giphy.gif)

(sidenote: Airplane! is one of the greatest movies ever)

But in all seriousness. I don't think it's that severe that it should to go to the addiction thread and it's more of a symptom of my other mental health issues, but it's starting to spill over these forums a bit. I don't go on benders, I always feel too sick and/or tired the following day to even wanting to drink the next day and I never get drunk if I have something important to do tomorrow. But when I do drink, I really do drink. Often too much. I don't think I even enjoy it that much anymore, I just want to get wasted every now and then (I know I can't drown my demons though, the bastards know how to swim...).

Anyway. I'll promise to stop drunk posting. I always feel like an ass afterwards. From now on I log out if I've had more than two beers. I'm sober at least five days a week so it's not like I cease posting altogether.  :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TempusVox on May 30, 2019, 10:58:05 AM
As much as I advocate for the use of medical marijuana, we will not tolerate posting seed sale websites here. So, back to your regularly scheduled program.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on May 30, 2019, 12:06:42 PM
As much as I advocate for the use of medical marijuana, we will not tolerate posting seed sale websites here. So, back to your regularly scheduled program.

Thought it was kinda weird to see that as post #1 from a new user.  Perhaps a 'bot'?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: cramx3 on May 30, 2019, 12:37:59 PM
Anyway. I'll promise to stop drunk posting. I always feel like an ass afterwards. From now on I log out if I've had more than two beers. I'm sober at least five days a week so it's not like I cease posting altogether.  :lol

Do you have a habit of saying things you regret when posting drunk?  I've certainly posted here drunk many times but usually I don't think I say things I regret, if so then yea it's a good idea to maybe back off. 

As for the depressed/angry thread, well if you read what I wrote in the lonely hearts thread than I kind of belong here too.  For me though, to help recover with how I am feeling, I am not resorting to booze.  That doesn't help anything, and that's not meaning I'm not drinking (I drank quite a bit last weekend at the two concerts I went to) but I'm not drinking after work when I am feeling bored and lonely and depressed and angry.  I am not letting myself resort to that, instead I am riding my exercise bike and then taking my anger out in video games or by listening / dancing to some heavy music. 

As for medical marijuana, I am participating in that as well, but I am not finding that to help me right now.  Maybe it helps take my mind off it for a bit, but it's not fixing my issues in any way (I don't expect it too either, but I am finding that this is helping much less than I had hoped) but it just comes down to no drug is going to fix the depression I am feeling and only myself and my own will power to overcome will help and that's what i need to and continue to do.

I ate a salad for lunch today, that's practically an unheard statement from me
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ruba on May 30, 2019, 01:22:56 PM
Anyway. I'll promise to stop drunk posting. I always feel like an ass afterwards. From now on I log out if I've had more than two beers. I'm sober at least five days a week so it's not like I cease posting altogether.  :lol

Do you have a habit of saying things you regret when posting drunk?  I've certainly posted here drunk many times but usually I don't think I say things I regret, if so then yea it's a good idea to maybe back off.

Well, yeah. I know I'm a very neurotic person and tend to blow things out of proportion in my head (I even had a dream once where bosk gave me an ultimatum that I'll be banned if I don't stop posting drunk  :lol), so while I hopefully haven't posted anything completely stupid or offensive I still think it's best I'll stay out while drunk. I'd probably need an alcolock for internet (except for YouTube, I like watching music videos while drinking  :biggrin:).

As for the depressed/angry thread, well if you read what I wrote in the lonely hearts thread than I kind of belong here too.  For me though, to help recover with how I am feeling, I am not resorting to booze.  That doesn't help anything, and that's not meaning I'm not drinking (I drank quite a bit last weekend at the two concerts I went to) but I'm not drinking after work when I am feeling bored and lonely and depressed and angry.  I am not letting myself resort to that, instead I am riding my exercise bike and then taking my anger out in video games or by listening / dancing to some heavy music.

Yeah I do read the Lonely Hearts thread and I feel for you man. Also it's great you have more productive ways dealing with negative emotions than getting pissed.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: cramx3 on May 30, 2019, 02:48:13 PM
Also it's great you have more productive ways dealing with negative emotions than getting pissed.

Well, I think we all do, we just need to focus on that.  It's really difficult, but I know, I am not going to feel any better if I resort to destructive behavior and as long as I know and keep telling myself that, it makes it a bit easier to say "no booze, hit the bike" And that's not to say I am not getting pissed or having negative feelings too, I think time will help there. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on April 12, 2020, 09:00:52 PM
Hey guys. Sorry for the thread bump but I need somewhere to talk about this. I’ve been having a really rough time these past few months. I know a lot of people have with this pandemic, but my depression and anxiety have started to spiral out of control again. I’ve let them influence my work and most importantly they’ve played a role in my current relationship with the love of my life. I’m having constant nightmares. I wake up sweating and shaking almost every morning and going a day without having a panic attack and/or breaking down crying has become rare. I’m losing control and I’m really scared.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cool Chris on April 12, 2020, 09:14:47 PM
I have a question.  Is it possible to be depressed and not even realize it?

Yes.

I will defer to the professional for the accurate answer, but I will say anecdotally I was unaware of how I felt for years. At some point I thought "Hey, I feel really bad, and maybe this isn't how someone isn't supposed to feel (especially when that person has a job, a home, and isn't struggling with life-altering events)." Once I saw a Dr and got an Rx, and started feeling better, I couldn't believe how long I had lived feeling miserable.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Grappler on April 13, 2020, 05:58:22 AM
Yeah, you're not alone.  Illinois has set up a hotline for people with the same feelings.  Maybe your state has something similar?  If not, you can always contact a professional on your own for an appointment.  Or, if your job has a hotline as part of your employee benefit package (mine has a personal help hotline - they can help with ANYTHING, from assistance in finding lost luggage to helping you find a medical professional for you.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Phoenix87x on April 13, 2020, 06:05:32 AM
Hey guys. Sorry for the thread bump but I need somewhere to talk about this. I’ve been having a really rough time these past few months. I know a lot of people have with this pandemic, but my depression and anxiety have started to spiral out of control again. I’ve let them influence my work and most importantly they’ve played a role in my current relationship with the love of my life. I’m having constant nightmares. I wake up sweating and shaking almost every morning and going a day without having a panic attack and/or breaking down crying has become rare. I’m losing control and I’m really scared.

I haven't had to deal with the depression aspect, but the anxiety I've had issues with. Its not for everyone, but I've been using CBD and it has really calmed things down anxiety wise.

Its legal to buy in a store and can't get you high. It just calms things down, so just throwing that out there.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on April 13, 2020, 06:08:54 PM
+1 for CBD. It's not the "miracle cure" for everything like some folks advertise it as, but it's great to help take the anxiety down a notch. Start at a lower dose, see how it feels, then bump it up as needed.

Be warned, it can make you sleepy if you take a enough. Not like Nyquil sleepy, but "sitting on the couch relaxed and drifting off" sleepy.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on January 27, 2021, 09:58:54 PM
Well this sucks.


Seeing a new PCP who really took interest in my mental health, especially after explaining to him some of my issues over the last decade, and mentioned that I've looked for help before and have become overwhelmed. So he decided to refer me to their in house psychologist for evaluation, and then work with her on a plan for me.

I was supposed to see her today.

I received a call from their office on Monday. Apparently due to BS insurance reasons, she's no longer accepted by my insurance, and they basically gave me a list of like 60 therapists / psychologists in southern California and said "good luck".



The whole reason I haven't seen someone the fact that it is overwhelming to sort through everything. So I am back to square one.


My cousin, who is a Therapist around here, gave me a few recommendations of people she doesn't know personally but has heard good things about, but I am going to hold off and see what my doctor says when I have a follow up... at some point in the near future.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cool Chris on January 27, 2021, 10:37:55 PM
The whole reason I haven't seen someone the fact that it is overwhelming to sort through everything. So I am back to square one.

"sort through everything" meaning insurance, or evaluating potential service providers? If the former, my condolences. If the latter, I guess you just gotta start somewhere. Last year I just did a little research on providers in my area and just picked one (after confirming they accepted my insurance!!!!) Was she the best for me? I don't know. But I wasn't going to find that out without meeting her. You may not find the perfect match, but that shouldn't keep you from finding a really good one.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on January 28, 2021, 08:36:52 AM
The whole reason I haven't seen someone the fact that it is overwhelming to sort through everything. So I am back to square one.

"sort through everything" meaning insurance, or evaluating potential service providers? If the former, my condolences. If the latter, I guess you just gotta start somewhere. Last year I just did a little research on providers in my area and just picked one (after confirming they accepted my insurance!!!!) Was she the best for me? I don't know. But I wasn't going to find that out without meeting her. You may not find the perfect match, but that shouldn't keep you from finding a really good one.

We have one or two therapists here that can weigh in, but a therapist isn't like a dry cleaner.  I've been seeing mine for about 6 years now, and when I met her, I actually had one session with three that I identified (including her) and settled on her after.   It's like an interview of sorts.  I caution against just picking someone who's going to tell you want you want to hear, but you need to feel comfortable, and you need to TRUST.  If you can't dig deep - or at least get to the point of digging deep - what's the point? This isn't an ego-building exercise.  And that trust doesn't happen magically by picking a name out of a phone book.   All therapists aren't created equal; I remember seeing a guy when I was in Philly (he actually appeared on an episode of Bar Rescue, as Jon Tapper called him an "old friend" and recommended that one of his bar owners sit and talk with him) for about five or six sessions and every session I'd come out madder and more frustrated than before.  It was achieving the exact opposite effect!   
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on January 28, 2021, 10:35:15 AM
If you have any questions about finding a therapist, ask away. Otherwise, you’ll be ready when you’re ready.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on January 28, 2021, 10:25:11 PM
I reached out to the ones my cousin suggested, who looked to take my insurance. One of them got back to me pretty quickly and told me they weren't taking new patients. Still waiting to hear back from the other.

"sort through everything" meaning insurance, or evaluating potential service providers? If the former, my condolences. If the latter, I guess you just gotta start somewhere. Last year I just did a little research on providers in my area and just picked one (after confirming they accepted my insurance!!!!) Was she the best for me? I don't know. But I wasn't going to find that out without meeting her. You may not find the perfect match, but that shouldn't keep you from finding a really good one.

Both. Navigating my insurance company's shitty list of people whom I can go see, and then actually finding one that's local. The list includes a lot of non local peeps who work strictly with just video calls. I want someone who I can eventually see in person. Then whittling it down to people whom I may be comfortable with. I have a strong feeling that my PCP may recommend I go see the one Psychiatrist in their system (who also is in my network... but their in house psychologist isn't... go figure) but I have heard stories about that dude being a complete prick... friend used to see him and the dude apparently spent a large amount of time shit talking "Liberals and Vegans". I'd rather not see anyone than see that dude.

If you have any questions about finding a therapist, ask away. Otherwise, you’ll be ready when you’re ready.

Thanks man. I was using Psychology Today to search, which is fantastic, but their search results when searching  based on insurance are completely different than my insurance's website. As much as my insurance's website sucks, I figure it would be more accurate.

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on January 29, 2021, 03:30:11 AM
People are always telling me to go see someone - but it's 2021.

Complaining about being miserable right now is like going outdoors in a monsoon and complaining about being wet.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on January 29, 2021, 07:36:59 AM
To Jay: if you're really wanting to see someone that bad, don't give up.  I know with my therapist, it was an in-person conversation that got me where I needed to go.  Once she saw I was serious about getting help, and willing to do the hard work, we figured out a way (I submitted her sessions to my insurance as "out of network", covering the rest with flex, until she could get in network (which she wanted to do anyway).  It was similar with the doctor that my daughter was seeing over the summer (and now they made arrangements to continue her therapy while she's in Dallas).

It's harder than it ought to be, no doubt at all, but where there's a will there's a way.

To Kotowboy:  I'm sorry if this seems insensitive, but I don't buy into the 2020 memes and this idea that we have to be miserable because the last 10 months weren't all roses and Hershey's kisses.  This life is YOUR life.  That it might irredeemably suck for someone else doesn't mean it has to suck for you. That someone else is willing to wallow in the moment, and surrender their power to a trope is on them; if you want to be better, be happier, be more in touch with yourself and your surroundings, get the help.    To bastardize your analogy, just because it's monsooning, doesn't mean I shouldn't use an umbrella and put on a rain slicker.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on January 29, 2021, 08:07:53 AM
I'm not NOT going to see a doc because of 2020 memes - but i'm sure they'd be thrilled that I was the 451st person to claim to have depression that week.


Also just saying it makes me squirm. Like - everyone online who's a bit sad says they have 'depression'. So I just feel like an idiot saying it too since I might not actually be

and i'm just a miserable prick.  :lol

And i'm not one of those blokes who never goes to a doc - as I phoned mine yesterday about something - which might not seem much - but I wanted advice...

A few people have independently said I might have some kind of Aspergers too - but meh - so what ? I am either am or i'm not.

-
I've thought about it a few times and very nearly phoned up to make an appointment. But then I just imagine them

going " hello - what is the problem ? " and me sheepishly and timidly going " um... I think i'm depressed  :blush " and the receptionist going

"................ok..............why? " and then i literally forget anything bad that's ever happened to me and I hang up.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: cramx3 on January 29, 2021, 08:23:51 AM
How about you make the call and actually see what happens and not play mental games of what it may be like?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on January 29, 2021, 02:35:53 PM
If I could ethically just see my cousin (who technically doesn't take me insurance though) I would totally just talk to her :lol  . She's always been my unofficial therapist. But the problem is, besides the whole ethical part of it.... A lot of my issues stem from my Stepmother. My cousin absolutely hates my Stepmother. Lmfao

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on January 31, 2021, 06:10:07 AM
Complaining about being miserable right now is like going outdoors in a monsoon and complaining about being wet.

Your misery has nothing to do with the year.  Don't mean to trigger you, but your posts constantly carry an air of misery to them.  For your sake, I wish you'd do something to address it.  Anything other than just ranting and venting on the internets.  You're not healthy, man.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on January 31, 2021, 05:56:05 PM
I'm not NOT going to see a doc because of 2020 memes - but i'm sure they'd be thrilled that I was the 451st person to claim to have depression that week.

I don't see why they wouldn't be willing to get more work. It's a livelihood, & although I'm sure they aren't happy that current world events are making more people sad in the first place, they wouldn't have much to gain by disregarding someone who they could help.

Also just saying it makes me squirm. Like - everyone online who's a bit sad says they have 'depression'. So I just feel like an idiot saying it too since I might not actually be and i'm just a miserable prick.  :lol

Well it is true that there's a difference between depression the mood & depression the disorder, & many people do tend to confuse the two, but therapists can help with both. After all, people without mental disorders can have struggles interpreting their thoughts too, & I don't think there's any shame in admitting that.

A few people have independently said I might have some kind of Aspergers too - but meh - so what ? I am either am or i'm not.

As someone on the spectrum myself, this is a perfectly valid outlook to have. Therapists can help explain how to mitigate some of the abnormal behaviours someone has if the person wants them to, but if they're not making your life worse, then there's not much reason to.


I've thought about it a few times and very nearly phoned up to make an appointment. But then I just imagine them

going " hello - what is the problem ? " and me sheepishly and timidly going " um... I think i'm depressed  :blush " and the receptionist going

"................ok..............why? " and then i literally forget anything bad that's ever happened to me and I hang up.

It's not really a receptionist's job to assess the issues. I suppose they could give advice on which therapists to recommend, but therapists can be pretty flexible with the amount of issues they can help with. The actual advice is given between you & the therapist, & like I said, they don't have much incentive to gatekeep what is & isn't a "real" issue. Some people aren't qualified to give advice on specific things, but if said things come up, they'll probably be able to point you in the right direction to someone who is.

If memory is an issue with you, I'd recommend keeping a diary to write in whenever something comes up. It doesn't have to be an essay on each thing, but you can write in a similar format to a post like this, except in the diary instead. That way, you can refresh yourself before a session.

Now, I'm not saying all of this because I want to sell you on therapy, but the tone of this post makes me think that you actually want to but are giving yourself excuses not to out of fear. I think you at least should give it a try if it's been on your mind lately.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on February 01, 2021, 07:16:17 AM
My stepson is on the spectrum; the two "best" things to help him grow and progress have been a) his diagnosis of being on the spectrum, and b) the therapy he's received subsequent to that.   I say diagnosis, because prior to that, most of the responses have been behaviorially oriented, involving punishment.  At one point he was being physically restrained at school at a shocking frequency (a discussion for another thread).   Almost immediately, the understanding that he was on the spectrum changed the approach and he LITERALLY has not been restrained even once since the date his in-depth psychological study report was issued.

The therapy has helped him to cope with how he thinks and how he views the world, and how he can more productively interact with those that perhaps view the world a little different.  It's not been fool-proof or without issue, but certainly even just helping him deal with his anger issues has been a benefit for him and those around him.

It's my opinion only, and I'm not really prepared to argue this other than to say "to each their own, no judgment", but I personally believe those that say "I don't need therapy" are likely those that need it most.  Even those that do have an understanding of their emotions, those that are being honest with themselves, can benefit from the different perspective of someone with knowledge in the way we work and interact, even if that is just an alternative non-judgmental perspective, or a periodic time out to test things with few or no consequences.   We live in a complicated and rapidly changing environment, and sometimes it helps to sort that which is truly new and that which is a familiar thing wrapped in a new cloak.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on February 01, 2021, 09:04:18 PM
Welp.

Spoke with my Primary Doc today.

He actually helped my anxiety about finding the right therapist. Still looking. He also said if I put together a list, he'd be happy to look at them and give his recommendations if I wanted it.

He also started me on an SSRI to help with the depression and anxiety. I've never been on any form of meds (outside of my BP meds, and a short stint on a Non Stimulant ADHD med in Middle School), so this will be interesting.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cool Chris on February 01, 2021, 09:36:53 PM
He also started me on an SSRI to help with the depression and anxiety. I've never been on any form of meds (outside of my BP meds, and a short stint on a Non Stimulant ADHD med in Middle School), so this will be interesting.

I was Rx'ed those years ago when I felt something was wrong. They ended up helping, though it took a few weeks for me to recognize any affects, which were generally positive. I took meds for many years without seeking counseling and realized I was not fully addressing any of my problems.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cool Chris on February 16, 2021, 11:29:04 PM
Any updates Jay?

Diverging a bit... anyone else have feelings of being "lost" for lack of a better word? Like, you do not know what your place is, either in your family, your job/career, or in the world in general?  If someone asked me "what makes me me, I would point to my kids and say I am their dad, then to my wife and say I am her spouse. Not too diminish that any, but I wouldn't know what else to say. I never feel like I do not want to get up in the morning (see reasons 1 and 2 above) but outside of them I have little motivation to.

I started typing out more about how I felt but it is late, I am tired, and it wasn't making any sense, so I deleted it. Just wanted to get that off my virtual chest.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on February 17, 2021, 03:26:18 AM
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Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on February 17, 2021, 05:11:03 AM
Any updates Jay?

Diverging a bit... anyone else have feelings of being "lost" for lack of a better word? Like, you do not know what your place is, either in your family, your job/career, or in the world in general?  If someone asked me "what makes me me, I would point to my kids and say I am their dad, then to my wife and say I am her spouse. Not too diminish that any, but I wouldn't know what else to say. I never feel like I do not want to get up in the morning (see reasons 1 and 2 above) but outside of them I have little motivation to.

I started typing out more about how I felt but it is late, I am tired, and it wasn't making any sense, so I deleted it. Just wanted to get that off my virtual chest.

I don't know what's "normal", but it's common.   I've talked about that a fair amount in my therapy.   Keep writing; even if you don't post anything, I've found that putting the words out there, on paper or in the air, takes away a lot of their "power". 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on February 17, 2021, 05:37:00 AM
Diverging a bit... anyone else have feelings of being "lost" for lack of a better word? Like, you do not know what your place is, either in your family, your job/career, or in the world in general?  If someone asked me "what makes me me, I would point to my kids and say I am their dad, then to my wife and say I am her spouse. Not too diminish that any, but I wouldn't know what else to say. I never feel like I do not want to get up in the morning (see reasons 1 and 2 above) but outside of them I have little motivation to.

I don't know Chris...I read this and I guess I don't understand. Those people (wife and kids) are probably pretty happy to see you each day.

Maybe you're getting older and experiencing some regret, like sometimes I think, jeesh what have I done? Cure cancer..nope. Solve hunger..nope. Create a really cool app....nope.

But then I remember that I treat people I encounter with respect and dignity, and I derive self satisfaction from that. I take pride in not being an asshole. At the end of the day I have to look at myself in the mirror.

Is life really a house of cards? Probably, but the only threat to that is self doubt. Doing the right thing should provide fortification.

"What makes you?" Well, what are your thoughts? Your beliefs? They're all important and your place is is defined by them.
I also think the "What makes me" question can be a never ending search, and since it never ends, it's conceivable there'll be some disappointment in attaining it But I kind of view it as a dog chasing its tail. Happy is the dog that stops and licks his balls.

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on February 17, 2021, 06:11:27 AM
Excellent post, Tim. I’ll try to offer some more thoughts later at my laptop, but the biggest takeaway here for me is that I think I’ve found a new tag line / catch phrase.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on February 17, 2021, 06:45:50 AM
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Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on February 17, 2021, 07:59:06 AM
Excellent post, Tim. I’ll try to offer some more thoughts later at my laptop, but the biggest takeaway here for me is that I think I’ve found a new tag line / catch phrase.

I'm already trying to get it on a t-shirt.  ;)   

We laugh, but he's right, though.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: kirksnosehair on February 17, 2021, 12:48:19 PM
It's my opinion only, and I'm not really prepared to argue this other than to say "to each their own, no judgment", but I personally believe those that say "I don't need therapy" are likely those that need it most.  Even those that do have an understanding of their emotions, those that are being honest with themselves, can benefit from the different perspective of someone with knowledge in the way we work and interact, even if that is just an alternative non-judgmental perspective, or a periodic time out to test things with few or no consequences.   We live in a complicated and rapidly changing environment, and sometimes it helps to sort that which is truly new and that which is a familiar thing wrapped in a new cloak.


I've been in therapy with the same therapist now for 12 years.  Now, would I have been prepared to admit that on a public forum 12 or even 5 years ago?  Not a chance!  I kept it to myself for a long time and even now I'm not out broadcasting it all over the place.  That said, I don't mind revealing it here because there is still a stubborn and pervasive perception of "weakness" associated with someone seeking professional help which is completely ass-backwards.  It's "weakness" that prevents us from seeking professional help.  Weakness and the ugly stigma that accompanies any mention of psychiatric or emotional "support" or "help" or "therapy" etc. 


I cannot say for sure what my life would be like today had I not sought help 12 years ago, but what I can tell you is that while my life is far from perfect I am a pretty well-adjusted and generally satisfied person and I am optimistic about the future and really looking forward to my retirement and spoiling my grandkids as I approach my "golden years." (had to work an Iron Maiden reference in there!).


There is no weakness in asking for help.  But don't do it because some people on a message board said you should.  Do it because you want to feel better.  If you don't believe that therapy with a professional will help you, well, prove it to yourself.  Go to....3 or 4 sessions and try it out.  You may not necessarily make a connection with your first therapist but you should not just write it off if you don't like the first one you meet.  It took me 3 therapists before I found Beth, who is like my big sister.  Only a very smart, shrewd, compassionate and caring sister who is invested in my happiness and success.  For me it all seemed very...contrived...at first.  Like, OK, I give you money and you sit and listen to me fucking whine about my job, my wife, the fucking morons at work, the traffic, etc. etc. etc. But the longer I went and the better Beth got to know me, the better she got at helping to guide me.  Pretty soon I started to realize that my life didn't really suck anymore.  I wasn't pissed off all the time.  I actually looked forward to stuff.  Medication definitely played a role here but I never would have even found my way to that medication had I not hooked up with Beth, who recommended to me at one point about 7 years ago that I was suffering from PTSD and probably clinical depression of one sort or another and it would be a good idea for me to consult with a psychiatrist.  By then she had earned my trust and respect so I took her advice - that was about 5 years ago and I have been on antidepressants ever since, which have improved my life quite a bit.  It took a while but eventually the medication lifted me out of some pretty dark times and between that and therapy every week for 45 minutes with my friend Beth.  It's a professional relationship, yes, but I just think of her as a friend that I talk to each week for 45 minutes.


tl;dr version: Therapy - don't knock it 'till you've made an honest effort with it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on February 17, 2021, 01:19:36 PM
tl;dr version: Therapy - don't knock it 'till you've made an honest effort with it.

There isn't an emoji powerful enough to express my agreement at that statement.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: cramx3 on February 17, 2021, 01:31:12 PM
One thing I've started to notice recently, is on social media platforms for support groups to start popping up.  I met this girl at a Billy Corgan concert who is probably the biggest Smashing Pumpkins fan in the world and I follow her on social media since we met, she started a smashing pumpkins mental health support group on facebook which is super active of people daily sharing their issues and seeking advice and thoughts from others.  Also, on discord (a chat app for gamers) I've noticed a few people I follow having their own channels for therapy or mental health, that are also very active with people opening up about their issues and others in the channel supporting them.  I feel like this is becoming more and more prominent where people are becoming more open about sharing their struggles.  This is a good thing, and while I feel social media definitely adds to the depression and mental health degradation, there are times where social media is also helping. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on February 17, 2021, 01:39:15 PM
Diverging a bit... anyone else have feelings of being "lost" for lack of a better word? Like, you do not know what your place is, either in your family, your job/career, or in the world in general?  If someone asked me "what makes me me, I would point to my kids and say I am their dad, then to my wife and say I am her spouse. Not too diminish that any, but I wouldn't know what else to say. I never feel like I do not want to get up in the morning (see reasons 1 and 2 above) but outside of them I have little motivation to.

I don't know Chris...I read this and I guess I don't understand. Those people (wife and kids) are probably pretty happy to see you each day.

Maybe you're getting older and experiencing some regret, like sometimes I think, jeesh what have I done? Cure cancer..nope. Solve hunger..nope. Create a really cool app....nope.

But then I remember that I treat people I encounter with respect and dignity, and I derive self satisfaction from that. I take pride in not being an asshole. At the end of the day I have to look at myself in the mirror.

Is life really a house of cards? Probably, but the only threat to that is self doubt. Doing the right thing should provide fortification.

"What makes you?" Well, what are your thoughts? Your beliefs? They're all important and your place is is defined by them.
I also think the "What makes me" question can be a never ending search, and since it never ends, it's conceivable there'll be some disappointment in attaining it But I kind of view it as a dog chasing its tail. Happy is the dog that stops and licks his balls.

This is a really great post.  I may offer some thoughts later as I've struggled off and on lately with what Chris is saying.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: kirksnosehair on February 17, 2021, 02:10:19 PM
One thing I've started to notice recently, is on social media platforms for support groups to start popping up.  I met this girl at a Billy Corgan concert who is probably the biggest Smashing Pumpkins fan in the world and I follow her on social media since we met, she started a smashing pumpkins mental health support group on facebook which is super active of people daily sharing their issues and seeking advice and thoughts from others.  Also, on discord (a chat app for gamers) I've noticed a few people I follow having their own channels for therapy or mental health, that are also very active with people opening up about their issues and others in the channel supporting them.  I feel like this is becoming more and more prominent where people are becoming more open about sharing their struggles.  This is a good thing, and while I feel social media definitely adds to the depression and mental health degradation, there are times where social media is also helping.


It's a good thing, for sure, but it has its limitations and there are dangers there too.  I only mention this because there was another community I was a regular posting member of for a few years where I thought I was among friends but it turned out that quite a few of them were doxxing me while simultaneously acting as if they were my friends and had no idea who was doing the doxxing.  Now, at the time the people doing the doxxing had no way of knowing that everything they put out about me was public information that I had no problem with it being public but when they started posting my home address, phone numbers, company name where I work, phone number where I work, name of some of my co-workers, I had a bit of an "ah-ha" moment where I realized that not everyone online is who they say they are and the relative anonymity of the internet can turn some people into first class fucking assholes.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: cramx3 on February 17, 2021, 02:20:35 PM
One thing I've started to notice recently, is on social media platforms for support groups to start popping up.  I met this girl at a Billy Corgan concert who is probably the biggest Smashing Pumpkins fan in the world and I follow her on social media since we met, she started a smashing pumpkins mental health support group on facebook which is super active of people daily sharing their issues and seeking advice and thoughts from others.  Also, on discord (a chat app for gamers) I've noticed a few people I follow having their own channels for therapy or mental health, that are also very active with people opening up about their issues and others in the channel supporting them.  I feel like this is becoming more and more prominent where people are becoming more open about sharing their struggles.  This is a good thing, and while I feel social media definitely adds to the depression and mental health degradation, there are times where social media is also helping.


It's a good thing, for sure, but it has its limitations and there are dangers there too.  I only mention this because there was another community I was a regular posting member of for a few years where I thought I was among friends but it turned out that quite a few of them were doxxing me while simultaneously acting as if they were my friends and had no idea who was doing the doxxing.  Now, at the time the people doing the doxxing had no way of knowing that everything they put out about me was public information that I had no problem with it being public but when they started posting my home address, phone numbers, company name where I work, phone number where I work, name of some of my co-workers, I had a bit of an "ah-ha" moment where I realized that not everyone online is who they say they are and the relative anonymity of the internet can turn some people into first class fucking assholes.

That's fucked up, especially coming from a community where you are opening up about yourself.  Doxxing is pretty messed up and definitely a danger of social media.  I do think social media is pretty much shit for the most part, but I only recently noticed some of the positives coming out.  I think a lot of it has to do with the fact so many are stuck home, feeling depressed, and there's no one to talk to about it. (I mean, there always is, but it's not always so easy to see a therapist for some people).
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cool Chris on February 17, 2021, 10:30:51 PM
I don't know Chris...I read this and I guess I don't understand. Those people (wife and kids) are probably pretty happy to see you each day.

If I gave the impression I thought otherwise, that was not my intention.

Maybe you're getting older and experiencing some regret, like sometimes I think, jeesh what have I done? Cure cancer..nope. Solve hunger..nope. Create a really cool app....nope.

But then I remember that I treat people I encounter with respect and dignity, and I derive self satisfaction from that. I take pride in not being an asshole. At the end of the day I have to look at myself in the mirror.

My list of regrets goes on for days. I try not to dwell on them, but they creep to the forefront of my mind often. Some of them are tangible - my job history, my income; many of them involve my actions that have hurt others. Often I wonder how I "fell off the tracks" somewhere along the way, and have been fighting to get back on ever since.

"What makes you?" Well, what are your thoughts? Your beliefs? They're all important and your place is is defined by them.

I don't know what my thoughts and beliefs are. I know I love my family, and they love me. Beyond that, it is murky.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on February 18, 2021, 12:02:15 AM
Chris, I'm not sure how old you are but as I mentioned before I kind of understand where you are kind of coming from.  Over the last 12 months, I have gotten to a point (I'm now 36) where I've also reflected and somewhat regretted my life to this point.  I also started having very bad down days and even came to the thinking on a daily basis that 'what's the point in trying, striving or putting an effort into goals and aspirations when we all eventually die in the end anyway and it's all for nothing.'  I was getting to a point where I was just thinking that life is pointless as the endgame is all the same for us at some point.

Very morbid thinking I know but that's where I've been heading.  My job was the main driving factor behind this thinking and dealing with people especially after COVID made me even more bitter and twisted than I already was.  Plus the groundhog day not excelling or really achieveing anything fulfilling.  People's lack of perspective blows my mind, and I feel on a daily basis that I don't fit in to this world.  It seems to get worse.  I find it harder as I get older to relate to people and I have less tolerance.  I'm becoming less and less of a people person, yet I'm good at my job as a manager leading people and have great respect.  I have no issue talking, but I just don't want to, and find it harder and harder to relate to people and get on their level.  I feel I'm different in my thinking altogether sometimes and get that 'lost' feeling.

Saying that without going too much into it, I've decided to change my perspective on things the best I could.  While I agree with you on the 'lost' comment, I'm taking strength in what I'm doing currently and how people rely and perceive me.  One can feel lost, but don't look past what you already have and do.  I feel that's important and overlooked.  Perphaps your destiny is what you are already making it.  While my life is my job and has been for years, I still have time to change, but I've been taking strength in the people that depend and rely on me.  Everyone is different and is put here on this earth for different reasons.  I've kind of accepted to this point, that I'm the foundation of my career and business and while people come and go, everyone under me has the ability to do what they please and come and go, because they know I'm there to pick up the pieces.  While that's annoying and I've been shit on by people for years and years, I now use that as strength and tell myself I'm a good person that does anything for people I care about and that means something.

I too have regret and wish I was 26 and not 36 but it's hard to get out of a rut, but you can change and try and get more purpose in your life.  How you do that though, I don't know, but getting strength and comfort for what I currently do well is helping me out a lot in this point in time.

I think we all need to stop thinking 'what if?' You can say that til the cows come home, but nothing will change.  Look forward and keep trying to better yourself and hopefully you can find some strength within yourself to get some sort of fulfillment to your life.  It's hard, I know.  I think a lot of us are 'lost' and keep in mind, you're not the only one feeling the way you do, it's just not talked about.

I hope some of that makes sense.  And apologies if I made that about me Chris, I know it sounds like that but thought some other perspectives might help you.

EDIT:  I should add, fwiw, I've never had therapy of any kind and never taken any meds.  So maybe I'm mild compared to others, so excuse if what I'm saying is trivial compared to what you other lads go through.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Elite on February 18, 2021, 01:38:31 AM
tl;dr version: Therapy - don't knock it 'till you've made an honest effort with it.

Similarly to how people go to a physician or to a dentist on a semi-regular basis (or anything related to physical well-being) I think it would be benifical for everyone to visit a therapist every once in a while, or anyone who can focus on your emotional well-being.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on February 18, 2021, 05:19:37 AM
Diverging a bit... anyone else have feelings of being "lost" for lack of a better word? Like, you do not know what your place is, either in your family, your job/career, or in the world in general?  If someone asked me "what makes me me, I would point to my kids and say I am their dad, then to my wife and say I am her spouse. Not too diminish that any, but I wouldn't know what else to say. I never feel like I do not want to get up in the morning (see reasons 1 and 2 above) but outside of them I have little motivation to.

I started typing out more about how I felt but it is late, I am tired, and it wasn't making any sense, so I deleted it. Just wanted to get that off my virtual chest.

I try to keep myself balanced across my four primary roles and reasons for being on this planet - employee, father, husband, and a man (the latter all being about myself).  Your post above Chris suggests you're ok with the father and husband part (and your kids are freakin adorable - at least, based on SS vids  ;)).  I can't remember your work situation with COVID, but that might be dragging you down a bit, and then there's the last part.  I'm no therapist, and don't have all answers as to what works for people to keep themselves ... fulfilled and satisfied ... as an individual.  One of the hardest parts in balancing my four reasons for being is in doing the things I love to do, regardless of what others think about it (including my wife and kids).  Sometimes the hardest part about *that* is knowing what those things are.  But once you know what you love to do, do it.

I remember reading a line from a self-help book once years ago that went something like this: No one was put on this Earth to take care of you (other than your parents, and their job was done a long time ago).  I firmly believe that no one cares more about your own happiness than yourself.  That includes spouses - I love mrs.jingle to death (and she does me as well), my happiness is not her responsibility.  That's a terrible burden to lay on anyone.

To some degree, I went thru a bit of what you mention during my worst bouts of depression in the mid 2010s.  I simply existed as a father, as an employee, and as a husband (in that order of priority).  I didn't do much of anything for my marriage or myself (some might remember me coming and going from DTF on more than a couple of occasions), and to a large degree I didn't care too much about those parts of my identity.  I hope those aren't the things you're going thru, but rather just a general malaise.  I suspect it may be a function of the totality of the pandemic.  I know it's dragging on mrs.jingle quite a bit - she already suffers from SAD, and February's are the worst.  The pandemic is just exacerbating it.

Not sure if any of that helps, but those are the thoughts that come to mind as I read your post. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Podaar on February 18, 2021, 06:45:04 AM
I don't know if this helps anyone else, but this has always been comforting to me and puts a brightness into each of my days.

“The cosmos is within us. We are made of star-stuff. We are a way for the universe to know itself.” ― Carl Sagan
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on February 18, 2021, 07:01:31 AM
One thing I've started to notice recently, is on social media platforms for support groups to start popping up.  I met this girl at a Billy Corgan concert who is probably the biggest Smashing Pumpkins fan in the world and I follow her on social media since we met, she started a smashing pumpkins mental health support group on facebook which is super active of people daily sharing their issues and seeking advice and thoughts from others.  Also, on discord (a chat app for gamers) I've noticed a few people I follow having their own channels for therapy or mental health, that are also very active with people opening up about their issues and others in the channel supporting them.  I feel like this is becoming more and more prominent where people are becoming more open about sharing their struggles.  This is a good thing, and while I feel social media definitely adds to the depression and mental health degradation, there are times where social media is also helping.


It's a good thing, for sure, but it has its limitations and there are dangers there too.  I only mention this because there was another community I was a regular posting member of for a few years where I thought I was among friends but it turned out that quite a few of them were doxxing me while simultaneously acting as if they were my friends and had no idea who was doing the doxxing.  Now, at the time the people doing the doxxing had no way of knowing that everything they put out about me was public information that I had no problem with it being public but when they started posting my home address, phone numbers, company name where I work, phone number where I work, name of some of my co-workers, I had a bit of an "ah-ha" moment where I realized that not everyone online is who they say they are and the relative anonymity of the internet can turn some people into first class fucking assholes.

Wow, that sucks (seriously; I'm sorry that happened to you) but even if it doesn't go that far, there's only so much that "support" can give you.   I feel like you still have to do the hard work.  In a social media situation it's still far too easy to sort our the things you WANT to hear, versus the things you NEED to hear.  I know for me, therapy has been, among other things, THE most humbling experience of my life.  We're not always who we THINK we are, or who we PROJECT we are, and that realization is CRITICAL to any self-growth (and why, if I may, my ex has experienced zero personal growth in 15 years).  And I'm showing my bias now, I know, but there's a degree to which this isn't a victim show; the one-on-one is important to keep things focused on the message and the meaning without the spectacle of a public coming out party.   Finally, the therapist, if selected appropriately, is a trained professional, who can spot patterns, spot deeper issues, and can prepare a treatment plan to bring you to where you need/want to be.   IMO, only, and I know that, but for me, online social media support groups are a first step to admitting there is a problem, but not the totality of the treatment.   
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on February 18, 2021, 07:36:31 AM
People's lack of perspective blows my mind, and I feel on a daily basis that I don't fit in to this world.

Borther, friend, if it matters to you, I have this discussion with my therapist FREQUENTLY.    I remember my first session with her, back in 2012 or so, and she started with "why are you here?" and my answer was "to try to get some perspective".  It's only more recently that the "don't fit in this world" part has come up, but trust me when I say, it's not an absolute, objective state of being.   
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on February 18, 2021, 01:12:43 PM
People's lack of perspective blows my mind, and I feel on a daily basis that I don't fit in to this world.

Borther, friend, if it matters to you, I have this discussion with my therapist FREQUENTLY.    I remember my first session with her, back in 2012 or so, and she started with "why are you here?" and my answer was "to try to get some perspective".  It's only more recently that the "don't fit in this world" part has come up, but trust me when I say, it's not an absolute, objective state of being.

Interesting mate that that term came in recently for you after bringing the initial perspective issue years ago.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on February 18, 2021, 11:27:48 PM
I'm still looking. I've researched and reached out to a few and they've all came back to say they aren't accepting new patients. It's been discouraging... So I set it aside for a bit. I'll probably start looking again next week. As far as the antidepressants... It'll be a while before I trust to judge it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on February 19, 2021, 07:31:01 AM
People's lack of perspective blows my mind, and I feel on a daily basis that I don't fit in to this world.

Borther, friend, if it matters to you, I have this discussion with my therapist FREQUENTLY.    I remember my first session with her, back in 2012 or so, and she started with "why are you here?" and my answer was "to try to get some perspective".  It's only more recently that the "don't fit in this world" part has come up, but trust me when I say, it's not an absolute, objective state of being.

Interesting mate that that term came in recently for you after bringing the initial perspective issue years ago.

It's an evolving process; the "perspective" was a general thing (including, then, work, drinking, living the single life after having been married for 15 years, the last 5 or so largely void of intimacy).  We've kind of gotten past the very specific things, and "peeled back the onion" so to speak as to why those feelings remain even though I don't drink excessively on most standards, I'm faithful in a monogamous marriage, and my work is in decent balance.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cool Chris on February 20, 2021, 08:59:39 PM
Saying that without going too much into it, I've decided to change my perspective on things the best I could.  While I agree with you on the 'lost' comment, I'm taking strength in what I'm doing currently and how people rely and perceive me.  One can feel lost, but don't look past what you already have and do.  I feel that's important and overlooked…. Everyone is different and is put here on this earth for different reasons. 
I too have regret and wish I was 26 and not 36 but it's hard to get out of a rut, but you can change and try and get more purpose in your life.  How you do that though, I don't know, but getting strength and comfort for what I currently do well is helping me out a lot in this point in time.

I am 44. Those are some solid thoughts, thank you for sharing.

One of the hardest parts in balancing my four reasons for being is in doing the things I love to do, regardless of what others think about it (including my wife and kids).  Sometimes the hardest part about *that* is knowing what those things are.  But once you know what you love to do, do it.

Until I got married, most of my identity, doing the things I love, involved clubs, bars, women and video games. That was it. Since I obviously cannot partake in those activities (though for a while I was doing the bars and clubs, to a much smaller degree...), I haven't found anything to fill that void. Of course I am much busier now with two kids (thank you for the kind words, by the way, I do enjoy showing them off, and try not to do so in an obnoxious "my kids are the greatest" way), and most of my joy comes from them and the happiness they bring to the family. Outside of them, though, is when I feel most like I am just “existing” as opposed to “living.”
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on February 21, 2021, 06:25:34 AM
One of the hardest parts in balancing my four reasons for being is in doing the things I love to do, regardless of what others think about it (including my wife and kids).  Sometimes the hardest part about *that* is knowing what those things are.  But once you know what you love to do, do it.

Until I got married, most of my identity, doing the things I love, involved clubs, bars, women and video games. That was it. Since I obviously cannot partake in those activities (though for a while I was doing the bars and clubs, to a much smaller degree...), I haven't found anything to fill that void. Of course I am much busier now with two kids (thank you for the kind words, by the way, I do enjoy showing them off, and try not to do so in an obnoxious "my kids are the greatest" way), and most of my joy comes from them and the happiness they bring to the family. Outside of them, though, is when I feel most like I am just “existing” as opposed to “living.”

When your kids are young, it's VERY easy to allow the role of Father to be the dominant one - and imo, that's ok.  For starters, their primary (only?) role is Child (and I guess to some extent student and sibling).  They really don't have their own identity (well they do, but they don't have any independence associated with it - if that makes any sense).  Second, and more importantly, you'll never get those years back.  Once they hit their pre-teens and teens, they gradually start to find and explore their own identity.  By the end of their teens, their role as Child is no longer the most important one - it's probably 3rd or 4th on the list.  Accept (and enjoy) your role as Father being your primary one.  It'll change soon enough.  My suggestion is to work a little bit on finding 'you' things.  I didn't (nor did mrs.jingle), and it took a long time to transition out of our roles as parents being our primary purpose - and it was a bumpy ride for our marriage.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on February 21, 2021, 07:05:16 AM
Barry had some good insight in the other thread, though:  the truth will set you free.  I think he was meaning that in a more global way, but here, I mean it in a personal way.  Be honest with yourself; are you one that can do things in moderation (some people can't, either in general or in specific areas)?  Are you one that can channel your feelings (some people can't)?  What is it that REALLY satisfies you, and can that be reasonably achieved within the confines of your current life (if your abiding passion is jumping into a car with two buddies and playing small clubs across the Southeast, you might be in trouble).

This has been the big thing for me with COVID.   I have a wife that (I think) loves me, and understands me.  We fight, primarily because our respective communication styles require the other to put in effort, but I don't think anything out of the ordinary, and for most of our time together I would find my "recharge" in concerts or traveling (with her or without her).  I go to the majority of shows by myself (though I will meet up with people if it's that kind of show) and I use that to make time for myself.  I'll go early, when I can, I'll leave room to get a beer or dinner before, or if it's New York or Philly, sight see or meet people.

I'm a big one for building "stories".  Not "bro, I pounded 37 beers!" stories, but "I was on stage with Gene Simmons" stories.  "I met Billy Squier" or "I had a cigarette with Gary Barden".   Not to namedrop, but to cement those events and to allow me to go back to them when I need it.  When the boiler isn't cooperating, or the wife is in one of her moods (hey, it happens).   I don't know that this will work for anyone else, but it works for me, and with COVID, I'm struggling a bit to replace that.   Currently, it's guitar; I'm playing a lot, and sort of sketching out my "mid-life crisis album", and it's working so far, but we'll see.

EDIT: By the way, I only offer this to help, and to show that these are not usual feelings; for me, they are all related:  the perspective, the fitting in, the finding of release... they are all variations/sides of the same issue for me.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ben_Jamin on February 21, 2021, 10:35:07 PM
How Does Ultra-Processed Food Affect Our Mental Health? (https://youtu.be/vNQHGTdgI1U)

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Currently, one in five Americans live with a mental illness, and these rates have been tracking alongside increases in metabolic disease. Yet, conventional psychiatric care does not typically include discussion of food or an assessment of metabolic dysfunction, obesity, or insulin resistance in the evaluation or treatment of mental health conditions.

On this episode of The Doctor’s Farmacy, I was happy to sit down and talk with Dr. Shebani Sethi Dalai about the relationship between mental health and metabolic disease, and how we are gradually coming to understand that inflammation, oxidative stress, and insulin resistance may represent important root causes of many chronic brain illnesses, including many psychiatric disorders.

Dr. Shebani Sethi Dalai is a double board-certified physician in Obesity Medicine and Psychiatry. She is the Founding Director of Stanford University's Metabolic Psychiatry program and Silicon Valley Metabolic Psychiatry, a new center in the San Francisco Bay Area focused on optimizing brain health by integrating low carb nutrition, comprehensive psychiatric care, and treatment of obesity with associated metabolic disease.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on February 22, 2021, 06:36:23 AM
I went down that rabbit hole a couple weeks ago, about the ingredients in food.  I thank god I'm not a paranoid type, because if I was, it would be crippling.   

I was reading into the regulation of hormones in your body - testosterone, cortisol, stuff like that - and the guy was saying that just taking supplements isn't really enough; you have to make sure you're not also maximizing the things that work against your supplements (cortisol and testosterone work against each other, for example).   And he listed some things that naturally increase your testosterone - I was okay there- but also things that maximized your cortisol and it was a third of my diet.   Tha frig.  My grandmother died at 98 and she REFUSED to eat stuff out of a box; up until she was probably 94, 95 she would go in the woods and just pick mushrooms and eat them.  My dad (her son) would yell at her because of the risk (many more mushrooms can hurt you than are good for you and I'm not talking about the Grateful Dead's versions) but she knew what she was looking for/doing.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on March 09, 2021, 09:49:47 PM
So... I still haven't found a therapist, and I swear I shall soon. But I will say that the meds I am taking, which my doc just upped the dosage on, seem to be doing something.

One thing about me is I HATE doing things by myself. Movies. Concerts. Outdoor activities. If I don't have someone to do them with, I just don't do them. Well, I have been going out once a week to hike. Alone. And I have been loving it. This would not have happened 2 months ago. At all. Hell, I was out literally all day today, including a 7 mile hike. It's been amazing.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on March 10, 2021, 05:19:38 AM
So... I still haven't found a therapist, and I swear I shall soon. But I will say that the meds I am taking, which my doc just upped the dosage on, seem to be doing something.

One thing about me is I HATE doing things by myself. Movies. Concerts. Outdoor activities. If I don't have someone to do them with, I just don't do them. Well, I have been going out once a week to hike. Alone. And I have been loving it. This would not have happened 2 months ago. At all. Hell, I was out literally all day today, including a 7 mile hike. It's been amazing.

That's awesome Jay.  Alone time is fantastic.  Glad you're enjoying / appreciating it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Phoenix87x on March 10, 2021, 09:14:33 AM
Which meds are you taking if you don't mind sharing jay?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on March 11, 2021, 12:14:59 AM
Which meds are you taking if you don't mind sharing jay?

Lexapro genetic.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Phoenix87x on March 11, 2021, 05:48:42 AM
Oh ok. SSRI

That was mentioned to me by my doctor as an option back when I was having issues, but I didn't feel like it was for me so I went the CBD/ Medical Marijuana route, but SSRIs can be pretty effective. They usually take like 4+ weeks to get a steady blood level.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on March 11, 2021, 07:49:52 AM
So... I still haven't found a therapist, and I swear I shall soon. But I will say that the meds I am taking, which my doc just upped the dosage on, seem to be doing something.

One thing about me is I HATE doing things by myself. Movies. Concerts. Outdoor activities. If I don't have someone to do them with, I just don't do them. Well, I have been going out once a week to hike. Alone. And I have been loving it. This would not have happened 2 months ago. At all. Hell, I was out literally all day today, including a 7 mile hike. It's been amazing.

I might be biased, since I love doing things by myself, but I find it's so important to get that time away from others (especially others around whom you have to be "on"), and screens and sensory input.   I can only speak for me, but it's in those times when I'm best able to really think about what's in my life, what I'm doing, who I'm doing it to/with, and where I want to be.

I have a lot of people in my life who, seemingly, put zero time into self-contemplation, and it shows.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on March 11, 2021, 10:02:59 AM
For whatever reason - strong coffee really DOES NOT help my anxiety and depression.

I generally feel better when I switch to decaf.

Plus it's getting warmer and lighter in the UK now. So that helps too. Going for a motorbike ride in the sun and the warm air just feels so good.

:)

Once October rolls around - I can quite literally FEEL myself getting depressed that summer is over. Physically. Something switches when the air starts getting colder.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Phoenix87x on March 11, 2021, 10:09:11 AM
I have to be careful with coffee. Not enough and I'm crabby. Too much and I start to get manic  :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on March 11, 2021, 11:10:09 AM
Nah I just get really grumpy and twitchy.

My eyelids wouldn't stop twitching recently. So I switched to decaf and forced myself not to get out of bed when I woke up and have a decent sleep and eventually it went away.

I do have a tendency to over do it. One time I had to give up caffeine after I couldnt raise my hands without them shaking. That too went away with a good diet and lots of rest.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: kirksnosehair on March 11, 2021, 11:55:15 AM
I don't think I could give up caffeine, but I am highly sensitive to its effects.  If I drink 1 cup of coffee anytime after, say, 2pm I will be up all night, so I usually won't drink it anytime after 10am just to be safe.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on March 11, 2021, 01:05:17 PM
6pm for me but I always go to bed around midnight anyway. Unless I start work at 9am - then it's more like 10pm.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: kirksnosehair on March 11, 2021, 01:39:18 PM
Yeah, I'm in bed at 8pm and up at 3:30am every day.


Sundays I sleep in until 5
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on March 11, 2021, 01:52:29 PM
5pm ?

I don't like staying in bed until the afternoon - especially in winter - then you get no daylight. Even if I was awake all night i'm still up by noon. Then just go to bed early.

I need to get some daylight.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on March 11, 2021, 02:29:30 PM
Oh ok. SSRI

That was mentioned to me by my doctor as an option back when I was having issues, but I didn't feel like it was for me so I went the CBD/ Medical Marijuana route, but SSRIs can be pretty effective. They usually take like 4+ weeks to get a steady blood level.

I've been on them for a month and a half. I really do feel a difference. I used to be very iffy about medications... But I trust my current doc.  The only side effects I've had have been some slight stomach issues and I think I've been clenching my jaw, but I'm not sure if it's the meds or if I'm just noticing it due to the meds.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on March 11, 2021, 02:33:21 PM
What does it feel like being on Anti-Depressants ?

My anxiety is so bad that if I feel "new" or "different" that makes me anxious on its own.

Does it feel strange or do you just not get as low ?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on March 11, 2021, 02:42:16 PM
It's really hard to explain. I still feel 100 percent like me. I just feel like there is a slight cushion between me and extreme highs (like anger) and lows (depression). They don't hit as hard. And I've also been more inclined to actually so things that bring me joy... Instead of sitting here getting frustrated.

Now it's a very slight change. But it's just enough to make me feel a lot better




I don't know if that makes sense. Its really hard to explain.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Phoenix87x on March 11, 2021, 02:54:15 PM
I have heard people describe it as making them feel numb emotionally at times and also possible sexual dysfunction issues like ED. All that scared me away, but I am glad that its working out for you Jay.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on March 11, 2021, 03:00:44 PM
That's what I was afraid of... But hasn't been an issue yet. And on the sexual issues... Lexapro tends to... Let's just say people tend to use it to treat premature issues... Off label... I haven't had any negative side effects there. In fact I think it's helping me a little :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on March 11, 2021, 04:11:36 PM
Lexapro - the under appreciated Marx Brother :neverusethis:

:ontome:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cool Chris on March 11, 2021, 07:01:31 PM
It's really hard to explain. I still feel 100 percent like me. I just feel like there is a slight cushion between me and extreme highs (like anger) and lows (depression). They don't hit as hard. And I've also been more inclined to actually so things that bring me joy... Instead of sitting here getting frustrated.

Now it's a very slight change. But it's just enough to make me feel a lot better

That explains my experience pretty spot on, specifically the part about moderating between the highs and lows. When I was on them, I never got as low as I did prior to starting, which was pleasant. I also did notice I sometimes would not get as happy about things as I might have otherwise, which I accepted as an acceptable compromise for avoiding the all too frequent lows.

Likewise I never didn't feel like I was myself. Just a better balanced one.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: kirksnosehair on March 12, 2021, 12:35:41 PM
5pm ?

I don't like staying in bed until the afternoon - especially in winter - then you get no daylight. Even if I was awake all night i'm still up by noon. Then just go to bed early.

I need to get some daylight.


No, 5am.  I get up at 3:30am on most days, for me sleeping until 5am is "sleeping in"
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on March 12, 2021, 12:48:32 PM
5pm ?

I don't like staying in bed until the afternoon - especially in winter - then you get no daylight. Even if I was awake all night i'm still up by noon. Then just go to bed early.

I need to get some daylight.


No, 5am.  I get up at 3:30am on most days, for me sleeping until 5am is "sleeping in"

I don't know how you do that; I have a difficult time waking up before at least the dawn twilight.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: kirksnosehair on March 12, 2021, 02:32:49 PM
It's just a schedule I'm used to.  I've been getting up early ever since I can remember.  I'm not a night person.  By 8pm I am nodding out most nights.



Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: mike099 on March 12, 2021, 03:09:44 PM
Jay, hoping you get the help you need. 

I have been taking celexa and Ativan as needed for anxiety.  I used to take the celexa in the morning, but switched to evenings because the Celexa would make we nod off during the day.  For me the drug ‘evens’ me out.  At one point I told my wife I was considering weening off the meds, but she she strongly suggested otherwise.

I had to laugh at the anxiety/depression meds as a treatment of premature issues.  I did not need the drug for that issue, but the result was it took forever or sometimes not at all, which can be good or bad depending on your partner.   ;)

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: KevShmev on March 13, 2021, 01:01:35 PM
For years, I was up till 12 pm or so every night, and couldn't imagine waking up before 8-9 am. Now, I wake up at 6-6:30 am every morning, even on the weekends.  I would love to sleep later on the weekends, but it is hard for me to fall back asleep once I am awake early in the morning.  I have a minor case of sleep apnea, so that does not help the overall cause.  :facepalm: :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: mike099 on March 13, 2021, 01:44:27 PM
For years, I was up till 12 pm or so every night, and couldn't imagine waking up before 8-9 am. Now, I wake up at 6-6:30 am every morning, even on the weekends.  I would love to sleep later on the weekends, but it is hard for me to fall back asleep once I am awake early in the morning.  I have a minor case of sleep apnea, so that does not help the overall cause.  :facepalm: :facepalm:

I wake up at 4:30 every morning, but go to bed around 9 every night.  Kev, do you use a cpap?  I have been using one for years.  It took a good 2 weeks for me to get used to the mask and now I am not sure I could sleep without the machine.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: KevShmev on March 13, 2021, 02:15:37 PM


I wake up at 4:30 every morning, but go to bed around 9 every night.  Kev, do you use a cpap? I have been using one for years.  It took a good 2 weeks for me to get used to the mask and now I am not sure I could sleep without the machine.

Not really.  I barely cleared the threshold to even qualify for one (vs my cousin, whom I had talked to about it, whose numbers were off the charts high), and I tried using it, but I could never keep the mask on.  On occasion, I try it again, but have the same problem.  It takes me forever to fall asleep with it on, and every time I would wake up the next morning and it would be on the floor or next to me (meaning I took it off in my sleep).  I just deal with the tiredness as it is.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dublagent66 on March 18, 2021, 02:18:29 PM
For years, I was up till 12 pm or so every night, and couldn't imagine waking up before 8-9 am. Now, I wake up at 6-6:30 am every morning, even on the weekends.  I would love to sleep later on the weekends, but it is hard for me to fall back asleep once I am awake early in the morning.  I have a minor case of sleep apnea, so that does not help the overall cause.  :facepalm: :facepalm:

I wake up at 4:30 every morning, but go to bed around 9 every night.  Kev, do you use a cpap?  I have been using one for years.  It took a good 2 weeks for me to get used to the mask and now I am not sure I could sleep without the machine.

My dad said the same thing which was difficult for me to believe.  I can't even begin to imagine getting used to one of those machines while trying to sleep.  :dunno:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on March 18, 2021, 02:21:06 PM
I've been using one since 2004 and whenever the power goes out I'm wide awake.  I can't sleep without it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on March 18, 2021, 05:19:33 PM
Whenever I have a really happy fun day - the moment I come home and the sun starts setting I feel so miserable.

Maybe i'm bipolar or maybe it's just an adrenaline / endorphin crash ?

One time I went to a theme park for the day with my brother and his son - it was a brilliant day.

As soon as I got home I was bawling. I don't even know why.

It wasn't JUST " oh the fun is over ". It was something else.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cool Chris on March 18, 2021, 08:24:12 PM
There is a gulf fixed between those who can sleep and those who cannot. It is one of the greatest divisions of the human race.
Iris Murdoch - Nuns And Soldiers

I went through a ton of crap (much of it self-inflicted) in my 20s, and struggled with sleep for those years. Now I sleep soundly. The difference is staggering. I would not wish poor sleep on anyone.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: darkshade on March 23, 2021, 03:51:30 PM
I'm sorry, but I need to rant here... TL;DR last paragraph below.

My dad got diagnosed with pancreatic cancer about 13 months ago or so. He's slowly declined in health, but his condition wasn't really getting worse, and doctors were doing chemo and other things to shrink the tumor so it could be surgically removed, as it was pushing on his stomach causing him to not be able to digest food. This surgery never came to pass as they were not able to shrink the tumor... Eventually he needed a cane, then eventually he needed a walker, then he couldn't walk far past the end of the driveway, then couldn't get up off the couch very often, just enough to go to the bathroom, then eventually, not at all. In the last few months I could still talk to him, some days were better than others, but some days he couldn't talk too much due to the medication, but he was otherwise still functioning, still using his phone or tablet, still making himself a cup of coffee, etc... Over time he lost most of his body fat and muscle mass. He needed to go to the hospital 3 weeks ago to get a stent put in his liver, but for whatever reason the doctors couldn't get his body response or whatever it was under control so they could do the procedure right away, so we waited. Then he got covid after being in the hospital for a few days, they said they now needed to wait two weeks to quarantine before doing the procedure and gave him the option to stay or go home, and my dad refused to stay longer so he was sent home. That was about two weeks ago.

At some point, he told my mom that he didn't want to go to the hospital anymore, he has had to go there many times over the past year. Early last week, his health started rapidly declining, and he has been put under hospice care since last week. I did not see him for the previous couple of weeks or so because of his contracting of covid and wanting to play it safe, but was texting him here and there before the rapid decline. I finally saw him again. He is bedridden, unable to move much, basically looks like a corpse from the holocaust. He cannot talk, barely responds to anything, and just blankly stares at the TV. I have been stopping by my parent's house almost every day to see him. First couple of days were rough, I was incredibly overwhelmed because of how badly he had declined in such a short time. I could not eat, my entire body felt like I was really sick, I felt immense cold and felt like I needed to bundle up like it was 20 degrees below zero. I cried 4 or 5 times that first day. I laid in bed for 2 days. I still have knots in my stomach, every emotion you can think of I have experienced now in the last 5 days. I have no motivation to work, I can't listen to much music, I put some light jazz on in the background for myself to help keep me calm but that's it. I can't stay focused on anything else besides thinking about my dad. Today I saw him and he looks even worse, and I actually thought he might be dead when I walked in the room. When I first saw him like this, I could sense he was still inside there, but today, I felt like he was just gone. A bag of bones. I can't even pick up the phone to inform my friends what is going on (I don't use social media and my extended family is well aware of what is happening via my mom.) I have no use for social interaction right now, which is why I'm here ranting.

I'm not looking for sympathy, but maybe ways to help me cope with this. I've forced myself to eat something, anything, these last few days, but I either feel nauseous or knots in my stomach at all times, and have a constant desire to bawl out cry. It's 60 degrees out but I feel like I can't wear enough sweat pants and hoodies to stay warm. Walking helps, but only temporarily. Then I just want to go back to bed. I'm thinking of setting up and "moving back in" with my parents this week until the final day comes, just so I can be close by. Sitting at my apartment seems to make things worse for me, mentally. Typing this out helped a little as well, but I am just a mess like I've never been before.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cool Chris on March 23, 2021, 07:38:28 PM
If I have learned anything about this forum since I've been a member, if you have something to share, whether it be good, bad or ugly, your fellow members are here to listen. Sometimes just typing out your thoughts helps. I am happy that it has given you some comfort. I know I am not alone wishing you we could offer you some more.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on March 23, 2021, 07:48:07 PM
That sounds awfully terrible, and to me it just sounds like your way of processing your grief.  I'm sorry for your pending loss.  Losing a parent is a terrible thing.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: chknptpie on March 23, 2021, 07:49:12 PM
I'm sorry, but I need to rant here... TL;DR last paragraph below.

My dad got diagnosed with pancreatic cancer about 13 months ago or so. He's slowly declined in health, but his condition wasn't really getting worse, and doctors were doing chemo and other things to shrink the tumor so it could be surgically removed, as it was pushing on his stomach causing him to not be able to digest food. This surgery never came to pass as they were not able to shrink the tumor... Eventually he needed a cane, then eventually he needed a walker, then he couldn't walk far past the end of the driveway, then couldn't get up off the couch very often, just enough to go to the bathroom, then eventually, not at all. In the last few months I could still talk to him, some days were better than others, but some days he couldn't talk too much due to the medication, but he was otherwise still functioning, still using his phone or tablet, still making himself a cup of coffee, etc... Over time he lost most of his body fat and muscle mass. He needed to go to the hospital 3 weeks ago to get a stent put in his liver, but for whatever reason the doctors couldn't get his body response or whatever it was under control so they could do the procedure right away, so we waited. Then he got covid after being in the hospital for a few days, they said they now needed to wait two weeks to quarantine before doing the procedure and gave him the option to stay or go home, and my dad refused to stay longer so he was sent home. That was about two weeks ago.

At some point, he told my mom that he didn't want to go to the hospital anymore, he has had to go there many times over the past year. Early last week, his health started rapidly declining, and he has been put under hospice care since last week. I did not see him for the previous couple of weeks or so because of his contracting of covid and wanting to play it safe, but was texting him here and there before the rapid decline. I finally saw him again. He is bedridden, unable to move much, basically looks like a corpse from the holocaust. He cannot talk, barely responds to anything, and just blankly stares at the TV. I have been stopping by my parent's house almost every day to see him. First couple of days were rough, I was incredibly overwhelmed because of how badly he had declined in such a short time. I could not eat, my entire body felt like I was really sick, I felt immense cold and felt like I needed to bundle up like it was 20 degrees below zero. I cried 4 or 5 times that first day. I laid in bed for 2 days. I still have knots in my stomach, every emotion you can think of I have experienced now in the last 5 days. I have no motivation to work, I can't listen to much music, I put some light jazz on in the background for myself to help keep me calm but that's it. I can't stay focused on anything else besides thinking about my dad. Today I saw him and he looks even worse, and I actually thought he might be dead when I walked in the room. When I first saw him like this, I could sense he was still inside there, but today, I felt like he was just gone. A bag of bones. I can't even pick up the phone to inform my friends what is going on (I don't use social media and my extended family is well aware of what is happening via my mom.) I have no use for social interaction right now, which is why I'm here ranting.

I'm not looking for sympathy, but maybe ways to help me cope with this. I've forced myself to eat something, anything, these last few days, but I either feel nauseous or knots in my stomach at all times, and have a constant desire to bawl out cry. It's 60 degrees out but I feel like I can't wear enough sweat pants and hoodies to stay warm. Walking helps, but only temporarily. Then I just want to go back to bed. I'm thinking of setting up and "moving back in" with my parents this week until the final day comes, just so I can be close by. Sitting at my apartment seems to make things worse for me, mentally. Typing this out helped a little as well, but I am just a mess like I've never been before.

Reading through this took me back 6 years when I went through this with my father in law and esophageal cancer. We went through the same stuff, chemo, unable to eat, major weight loss, gabapentin, fentanyl and morphine. He had the same look you describe and there were times I wasn't sure he was still alive. I think "moving in" until the final day is absolutely worth it. My husband took FMLA and was able to basically do that but came home to sleep. Do whatever you can to just be there if it will help you process this life changing time. For us, nothing would have made it easier or better. It just fucking sucks. I hope you can find comfort in something and hold on to it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on March 24, 2021, 07:46:38 AM
Darkshade, I don't have any magic words for you, but having seen this a couple times now (we have cancer in our family, at least on mom's side), I feel for you and your family.  It can be heartwrenching to watch. I would offer that whether you move in or not for your own sake and for your parents, you're doing the right thing in reaching out to address your feelings as best you can.  If walking helps, walk away.  If writing here helps, write away (we'll read it!).   If music helps, let us know and we can send you something.  I don't know you or your family well, but in my experience, if it was me, my mom and dad would want my love, my strength, and would want to face this time with the knowledge that their son is carrying on any or all of those good things they've tried to teach me or leave with me over the years.   My dad is handicapped, so I have a sort of head start on you in that way, but over the years I've learned the body is just a shell; the essence of your dad is so much more than that, and you still have some of that to share and enjoy and remember.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: cramx3 on March 24, 2021, 08:34:14 AM
Damn, just reading that brought a tear to my eye.  So sad and I have no experience personally to give you any advice.  Just hang tight.  DTF is here for you. I'm very sorry. Fuck cancer.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: darkshade on March 24, 2021, 07:10:08 PM
Thanks everyone, for the kind words.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: darkshade on March 28, 2021, 08:18:26 AM
My dad passed Friday morning. Died in his sleep according to the hospice nurse. He was 59, he was going to turn 60 in May.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on March 28, 2021, 08:54:44 AM
My dad passed Friday morning. Died in his sleep according to the hospice nurse. He was 59, he was going to turn 60 in May.

Dayum.... so sorry to hear that.  Just fucking awful to lose a parent that young.

Fuck cancer.  Just fucking fuck it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Lonk on March 28, 2021, 09:21:05 AM
Really sorry for your lost
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on March 28, 2021, 09:22:41 AM
I'm so sorry for your loss.  I can't imagine the feelings, especially at that age...
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: KevShmev on March 28, 2021, 09:29:13 AM
Sorry to hear about your loss as well.  I can't even imagine.  :(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on March 28, 2021, 02:16:41 PM
Sorry for your loss mate.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cool Chris on March 28, 2021, 02:43:50 PM
Worth repeating:

...you're doing the right thing in reaching out to address your feelings as best you can.  If walking helps, walk away.  If writing here helps, write away (we'll read it!).   If music helps, let us know and we can send you something....

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: cramx3 on March 29, 2021, 11:44:49 AM
Sorry for your loss
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on March 30, 2021, 01:59:23 PM
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Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on March 30, 2021, 02:04:47 PM
Worth repeating:

...you're doing the right thing in reaching out to address your feelings as best you can.  If walking helps, walk away.  If writing here helps, write away (we'll read it!).   If music helps, let us know and we can send you something....

Great statement from Bill.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: kirksnosehair on April 05, 2021, 01:34:32 PM
Only 2 years older than me.   :(   Way too young to be leaving us.


I'm so sorry for your loss, Darkshade. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Chino on April 05, 2021, 01:39:54 PM
Many hugs  :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: OpenYourEyes311 on April 05, 2021, 07:35:26 PM
This sucks, Darkshade. I'm sorry for your loss.

I lost my dad at 59. I was 29 and it was two weeks after my wedding. I'm hurting for you.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on April 05, 2021, 07:45:24 PM
Darkshade, I am so sorry to hear. I don't come in this thread much so I didn't see your initial post last week. Pancreatic cancer is the fucking devil. I feel so bad for your father. He wasn't much older than some of us.
Thoughts and prayers for you..
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: kirksnosehair on April 06, 2021, 08:13:53 AM
Pancreatic cancer is almost always fatal because it's rarely caught early enough to prevent it from metastasizing.  It's what got Alex Trebek and Patrick Swayze  :(   Both died within less than 1 year from diagnosis.   
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: darkshade on April 06, 2021, 09:40:40 AM
Thanks everyone. The last couple of weeks have felt like one long day..
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: darkshade on April 06, 2021, 05:11:45 PM
So more bad news. My grandma (my mom's mom) has been in the hospital since just hours before my dad passed, so that has also been something we've been dealing with. She got covid, hasn't been able to breathe and has been on a ventilator for almost 2 weeks. My aunt is a nurse and has been in constant contact with her and the hospital, and today it seems she has taken a turn for the worse. While I am hoping for a recovery, it doesn't seem like she will make it the next 24-48 hours.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on April 06, 2021, 05:19:06 PM
Damn bro!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on April 06, 2021, 07:05:19 PM
Son of a bitch. So sorry
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: KevShmev on April 06, 2021, 08:26:21 PM
Damn, man. That is awful.  :( :(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on April 06, 2021, 08:28:44 PM
Oh man.  I am so sorry.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: cramx3 on April 06, 2021, 08:51:52 PM
when it rain, it pours, im so sorry
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on April 07, 2021, 02:20:08 PM
Just awful.  :(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: kirksnosehair on April 07, 2021, 03:08:45 PM
Damn, brother, that's a lot of shit to be dealing with all at once.


We're here for you, man.   :)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: darkshade on May 04, 2021, 04:54:51 PM
Sad to say, my grandmas succumbed to her condition and passed away this afternoon. She lasted longer than expected, but I was not able to communicate with her at all during this entire time, and it upsets me.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on May 04, 2021, 05:28:59 PM
Sorry for your loss
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on May 04, 2021, 05:42:28 PM
So sorry to hear mate, all the best.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on May 05, 2021, 10:37:43 AM
I'm sorry for your loss, Darkshade.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on May 05, 2021, 10:57:18 AM
I'm so sorry for your loss darkshade.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cool Chris on May 05, 2021, 10:48:52 PM
Sad to say, my grandmas succumbed to her condition and passed away this afternoon. She lasted longer than expected, but I was not able to communicate with her at all during this entire time, and it upsets me.

I have only lost two relatives who I was really close to, and that was back when I was much younger. I didn't get a chance to say goodbye properly, but I felt at the time my last meeting with them was sufficient. I cannot imagine the heartache at not being able to have a proper farewell to a loved one.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on July 28, 2021, 10:40:46 PM
I finally did it. I broke down and actually made an appointment with a company (That I am pretty sure is covered by my insurance, but I will verify tomorrow) for a psych evaluation and then to start seeing a therapist.

It's bullshit how hard this whole process has been. Every time I have sat down to look, I've become overwhelmed and said "fuck it". But today, after talking to my cousin (who is pretty much my rock. We lean on each other a lot), and finding that she did find another therapist and talking about her most recent diagnosis, I decided to dive in again.

Of course, my insurance company's website is shit, and even though I am searching for local providers, 90% of what they show as in network are out of county, but count as local because they offer telehealth visits. I REALLY want to see someone who I can eventually speak to in person, but whatever.

Video appointment with a Psychiatrist is set for Monday, and then I will hopefully find a therapist through the company that I like.

FINGERS CROSSED
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cool Chris on July 28, 2021, 10:55:58 PM
I REALLY want to see someone who I can eventually speak to in person, but whatever.

No whatever about it. Telehealth or whatever they are calling it is not a good option for most people, but during the height of Covid was better than nothing for many. In my humble opinion all therapists should be seeing clients in person, even if it means requiring proof of vaccination, or sitting on opposite sides of the room behind a Donald Sanger (https://seinfeld.fandom.com/wiki/Donald_Sanger) type wall*. If seeing someone in person is important to you, then that is would you should pursue. But I also get that therapists are very busy now and maybe you have to take what you can get, as I have hit a dead end with the few places I have reached out to being booked solid.

Adami, if I am out of line, I would like to hear your thoughts from the other side...
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on July 28, 2021, 11:19:58 PM
My cousin is a therapist, and she sees it as a good thing as well as a bad thing. The good being the fact that she's able to help people she wouldn't normally be able to. The bad being the fact that there are a lot of people like me.

For my situation, I'll try to book a therapist near me that I'll eventually be able to see, after my meeting with the psychiatrist, but if I can't, I am willing to give full video sessions a chance. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on July 29, 2021, 05:43:24 AM
I started seeing my therapist when she was living in CT and her office was literally - I could walk - across the street from my apartment.   We really had a connection, so when she moved to California, she gave me the option of continuing our sessions remotely, or she would refer me to a colleague.   I think that relationship is important, so I opted for remote, for telehealth.  This was back in... 2014 I think, so well before COVID (we had a sort of morbid laugh about the controversy about telehealth).   I still see her, an hour a week by video.  Perfect world, sure, we would meet in person and interact, but this has been the most productive therapeutic relationship I've ever been in, so there's no desire to change.

Jay, your post angers me; you should be able to find a therapist as easy as finding a foot doctor.  I've experienced that sort of difficulty in finding a therapist for my stepson and for my daughter (who, through perseverance have both found therapists that have helped them to deal with certain issues). 

As for the notion of losing someone close, I'm NOT a big "closure" guy - I find that concept to be horribly abused by some people, and what they call "closure" is simply an inability to separate from toxic/harmful circumstances - but I will say this:  when I was younger, my aunt (who lived in walking distance to Sandy Hook School, by the way) was dating a guy named Joe who was as an uncle to me.  I loved that guy.  He and my aunt would come to our house and listen to music, and they would take me and my brother to the movies and stuff.   He got cancer, and finally, as a sort of "estate planning" move, married my aunt.  I was told by my parents that he was really excited to be called "Uncle Joe" when they were married.  He got really sick and I only saw him once more, and wasn't sure if they had actually been married at the time, so I called him "Joe" and later found out that they HAD been married at that time.  It bothered me for a LONG time that I never did call him "Uncle Joe" like he wanted.  Sounds so silly in the cold light of day, but it's a big deal to me.  I have come to peace with it, but it's still something I am aware of and think about on occasion.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on July 29, 2021, 05:55:00 AM
Jay... best of luck on finding getting what you need.  I hope it all works out.

Bill... perhaps the tele-sessions are still fruitful because you *started* with the in-person sessions, and developed the relationship from there.  I'm sure it's all very much different starting at tele-health.  Unrelated to mental health, I know the business relationships I have with people I've only met on-screen are different than those that I've known and met in-person.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on July 29, 2021, 06:20:34 AM
Jay... best of luck on finding getting what you need.  I hope it all works out.

Bill... perhaps the tele-sessions are still fruitful because you *started* with the in-person sessions, and developed the relationship from there.  I'm sure it's all very much different starting at tele-health.  Unrelated to mental health, I know the business relationships I have with people I've only met on-screen are different than those that I've known and met in-person.

That's a GREAT point.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: EPICVIEW on July 29, 2021, 09:23:09 AM
wishing everyone in this thread peace, love ,strength and support.

the only thing that stays consistent in life is change, so when its bad it wont stay bad..  it will get better.

Love to all

EV,, out
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on August 02, 2021, 09:36:54 PM
I did the thing.

Had a video appointment with a Psychiatrist today. Cool guy. He wants to prescribe me another med to go with my SSRI, but is going to wait until my appointment next week, as he wants to touch bases with my primary doc regarding my Blood Pressure and the possibility of the new meds interacting with my BP meds.

After my next appointment, he's going to help me find a therapist in his office network thing if I haven't found one.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dublagent66 on August 03, 2021, 10:40:36 AM
wishing everyone in this thread peace, love ,strength and support.

the only thing that stays consistent in life is change, so when its bad it wont stay bad..  it will get better.

Love to all

EV,, out

Sorry my friend, but in this day and age, change is never for the better and when something good does happen, it never lasts.  Leave it up to the decisions of so-called leaders who always make sure that people never get too much of a good thing.  I am just fed the fuck up.  >:(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on August 03, 2021, 01:05:11 PM
I did the thing.

Had a video appointment with a Psychiatrist today. Cool guy. He wants to prescribe me another med to go with my SSRI, but is going to wait until my appointment next week, as he wants to touch bases with my primary doc regarding my Blood Pressure and the possibility of the new meds interacting with my BP meds.

After my next appointment, he's going to help me find a therapist in his office network thing if I haven't found one.

Good for you.  I hope this continues to help you feel better.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dublagent66 on August 03, 2021, 03:50:45 PM
wishing everyone in this thread peace, love ,strength and support.

the only thing that stays consistent in life is change, so when its bad it wont stay bad..  it will get better.

Love to all

EV,, out

Sorry my friend, but in this day and age, change is never for the better and when something good does happen, it never lasts.  Leave it up to the decisions of so-called leaders who always make sure that people never get too much of a good thing.  I am just fed the fuck up.  >:(

Actually, what you said is somewhat true my friend.  I did have some bad turn to good unexpectedly today.  We'll see how long it lasts.  Change for the better is rare, but still happens.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on August 04, 2021, 07:01:27 AM
wishing everyone in this thread peace, love ,strength and support.

the only thing that stays consistent in life is change, so when its bad it wont stay bad..  it will get better.

Love to all

EV,, out

Sorry my friend, but in this day and age, change is never for the better and when something good does happen, it never lasts.  Leave it up to the decisions of so-called leaders who always make sure that people never get too much of a good thing.  I am just fed the fuck up.  >:(

Actually, what you said is somewhat true my friend.  I did have some bad turn to good unexpectedly today.  We'll see how long it lasts.  Change for the better is rare, but still happens.

I don't agree with that.  If we don't change, we stagnate, and we die.  That's what I believe. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: cramx3 on August 04, 2021, 11:34:20 AM
wishing everyone in this thread peace, love ,strength and support.

the only thing that stays consistent in life is change, so when its bad it wont stay bad..  it will get better.

Love to all

EV,, out

Sorry my friend, but in this day and age, change is never for the better and when something good does happen, it never lasts.  Leave it up to the decisions of so-called leaders who always make sure that people never get too much of a good thing.  I am just fed the fuck up.  >:(

Actually, what you said is somewhat true my friend.  I did have some bad turn to good unexpectedly today.  We'll see how long it lasts.  Change for the better is rare, but still happens.

I don't agree with that.  If we don't change, we stagnate, and we die.  That's what I believe.

I don't agree with it either, not all change is good but change is often necessary. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on August 04, 2021, 01:21:37 PM
wishing everyone in this thread peace, love ,strength and support.

the only thing that stays consistent in life is change, so when its bad it wont stay bad..  it will get better.

Love to all

EV,, out

Sorry my friend, but in this day and age, change is never for the better and when something good does happen, it never lasts.  Leave it up to the decisions of so-called leaders who always make sure that people never get too much of a good thing.  I am just fed the fuck up.  >:(

Actually, what you said is somewhat true my friend.  I did have some bad turn to good unexpectedly today.  We'll see how long it lasts.  Change for the better is rare, but still happens.

I don't agree with that.  If we don't change, we stagnate, and we die.  That's what I believe.

I don't agree with it either, not all change is good but change is often necessary.

Even bad change is sometimes what we need, not what we want.  I didn't WANT to be divorced, but I don't know where I'd be if I didn't.   Nowhere good, that's for damn sure.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dublagent66 on August 04, 2021, 02:29:38 PM
wishing everyone in this thread peace, love ,strength and support.

the only thing that stays consistent in life is change, so when its bad it wont stay bad..  it will get better.

Love to all

EV,, out

Sorry my friend, but in this day and age, change is never for the better and when something good does happen, it never lasts.  Leave it up to the decisions of so-called leaders who always make sure that people never get too much of a good thing.  I am just fed the fuck up.  >:(

Actually, what you said is somewhat true my friend.  I did have some bad turn to good unexpectedly today.  We'll see how long it lasts.  Change for the better is rare, but still happens.

I don't agree with that.  If we don't change, we stagnate, and we die.  That's what I believe.

I don't agree with it either, not all change is good but change is often necessary. 

Depends on the change.  I never said change wasn't necessary.  I'm talking about change brought on by a decision that someone made affecting my life.  That is usually never a good thing.  However, change in my life that is decided by me has a better chance of succeeding and usually does.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on August 04, 2021, 02:57:49 PM
wishing everyone in this thread peace, love ,strength and support.

the only thing that stays consistent in life is change, so when its bad it wont stay bad..  it will get better.

Love to all

EV,, out

Sorry my friend, but in this day and age, change is never for the better and when something good does happen, it never lasts.  Leave it up to the decisions of so-called leaders who always make sure that people never get too much of a good thing.  I am just fed the fuck up.  >:(

Actually, what you said is somewhat true my friend.  I did have some bad turn to good unexpectedly today.  We'll see how long it lasts.  Change for the better is rare, but still happens.

I don't agree with that.  If we don't change, we stagnate, and we die.  That's what I believe.

I don't agree with it either, not all change is good but change is often necessary. 

Depends on the change.  I never said change wasn't necessary.  I'm talking about change brought on by a decision that someone made affecting my life.  That is usually never a good thing.  However, change in my life that is decided by me has a better chance of succeeding and usually does.

I know what I want to say, but no idea how to say it. This is best said man-to-man with a comforting hand on your shoulder.  :) :)

But... that's a distinction I've tried to remove from my life.  EVERYONE'S decisions around me impact me in some way, and I have to take life as it comes.  Judging it as "good" or "bad" is, for me, counterproductive.  It's not easy, of course, but for me I try to accept the change for what it is - an objective reality I have to deal with - and find the positive to accentuate, and the negative to minimize.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on August 07, 2021, 06:06:22 PM
Well it's been about 4 weeks since I started Sertraline Anti Depressants. Weirdly everyone told me they take 3 weeks to work - but the 2 weeks after I started were really great for whatever reason.

Ironically after the allotted '3 weeks' I was feeling really bad again.

I've not had any really horrible dark days though. They've mostly been medium.

I actually asked my doc if I could have them 'just to get me through the busy season at work' - and he was like 'well you'll be on them for a minimum of 9 months'

I was like :p oh.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on August 07, 2021, 06:32:31 PM
I'm glad to hear that you aren't having any dark days and are sticking to it :tup. Thank you for the update :)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on August 08, 2021, 04:38:11 AM
I'm glad to hear that you aren't having any dark days and are sticking to it :tup. Thank you for the update :)

Yeah, this is good news David. Keep at it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on August 08, 2021, 11:31:08 AM
Maybe I need to slightly up the dosage as I seem to be mostly medium but still neither really happy or hopeless.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cool Chris on August 08, 2021, 05:12:20 PM
Speaking from my personal experience:

1) Don't be so quick to tweak dosage. You are working on a long-term adjustment, not a quick fix.

2) When I was on SSRIs, I found myself regulated between extreme highs and extreme lows. I noticed I might not be as happy in certain instances as I would have been prior, but those times were few and far between the times I was really low, so the payoff was worth it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on August 08, 2021, 05:41:58 PM
Maybe I need to slightly up the dosage as I seem to be mostly medium but still neither really happy or hopeless.

SSRIs usually take 6 or so weeks to kick it fully. Give it a few months chance to see the full impact.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dublagent66 on August 09, 2021, 10:38:07 AM
Reducing my dosage of other people usually works pretty well.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on August 09, 2021, 01:02:01 PM
Reducing my dosage of other people usually works pretty well.

Yes. :)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cool Chris on August 09, 2021, 07:13:57 PM
Reducing my dosage of other people usually works pretty well.

That's awesome, I am going to use this!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dublagent66 on August 10, 2021, 02:22:40 PM
Can you dig it?  I knew that you could!   :tup
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on August 16, 2021, 07:33:32 PM
Another step done.

Made my first therapist appointment. It's not for like 3 weeks... But it's scheduled!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on August 17, 2021, 05:26:08 PM
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Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on September 03, 2021, 10:19:52 AM
Welp... Had my first appointment with a therapist. I like her so far. I  have 3 more appointments booked for the month. We'll see how things go.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on September 03, 2021, 12:52:06 PM
Why the “welp” then?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on September 03, 2021, 07:52:14 PM
Why the “welp” then?

I didn't even realize I said that :lol

I'm just so used to being negative I guess
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cool Chris on September 03, 2021, 09:15:26 PM
And speaking from experience, that's the problem. We get so used to feeling a certain way, that it becomes normal, and we can't imagine looking at things any differently.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on September 04, 2021, 06:59:04 AM
And speaking from experience, that's the problem. We get so used to feeling a certain way, that it becomes normal, and we can't imagine looking at things any differently.

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Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on September 04, 2021, 07:10:25 AM
:dunno: Nah i'd love to be happy. honestly. but literally nothing works. nothing.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on September 04, 2021, 07:45:22 AM
Why the “welp” then?

I didn't even realize I said that :lol

I'm just so used to being negative I guess

Glad you’re giving it a go!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cool Chris on September 04, 2021, 12:29:46 PM
:dunno: Nah i'd love to be happy. honestly. but literally nothing works. nothing.

If you were responding to me, you might have misinterpreted. I was commenting on how we can get used to feeling a certain way, and believe that it is "normal." There was a time for me feeling sad and upset felt normal, I had forgotten that I didn't always used to feel that way. When I saw other people who felt happy all the time, I thought that was abnormal, because it wasn't my experience.

Toward your comment, unfortunately for many of us, we don't know how to translate the wanting in to having. I wish I had easy answers for you. If I did, people like Adami would be out of a job.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on September 04, 2021, 05:23:15 PM
My trouble is - one day I can go " fuck it im going to see my doctor about this finally..." get 5 months worth of anti depressants - get a mental health appointment with a specialist...

Then wake up the very next day like " Oh God fuck this..." throw away all my Anti DPs and just dont turn up to any more appointments.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on November 07, 2021, 03:43:08 PM
Today is a rough one. My chest feels tight, I feel restless no matter what I do, and I’m easily irritable to the point of lashing out verbally over the smallest of things. I’m currently hiding in my bedroom avoiding any human interaction. This post will be the closest thing I’ve had to a positive human interaction all day.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on November 07, 2021, 05:36:36 PM
Been there many a times bro.  Take the time you need. Maybe shower too  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on November 12, 2021, 06:43:27 AM
Well I tried 2 different anti-depressants - the first one did nothing after 6 weeks. The second one put me to sleep but made me incredibly restless and twitchy. And I was groggy AF the next day in work.

Both times the rest of them ended up in the drain.

Yesterday I had a 60 minute chat with a therapist and I HATED IT :emo: I cannot bear talking about myself. It's excruciatingly embarrassing.

They were like " what do you normally do to get through the winter ? "

I was like " nothing I just put up with it "

and they said " You know you don't have to...."

All I could think of is " Yes I do. I'm fucking worthless. I deserve it. "

I can't see myself ever going back.

So yeah. Nothing helps. This is just my life now :).

Also last night I genuinely had a dream that I was on a train that was going to crash and kill everyone on it. And I was FINE with it.

I was just sitting there going " come on then. "
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on November 12, 2021, 07:18:52 AM
It’s very sad to hear that you aren’t even open to the slightest possibilities of things being better -  almost as if you want to be depressed... that this is how you define and measure your identity.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on November 12, 2021, 07:48:29 AM
Almost as if i hadn't tried several things and they didn't work for me !

And no - I do not think things will ever be better.

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on November 12, 2021, 07:52:08 AM
Almost as if i hadn't tried several things and they didn't work for me !

And no - I do not think things will ever be better.

Well, seems you've convinced yourself, and you're being quite successful at achieving the outcome you expect.

Just imagine if you try to expect a different outcome?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Chino on November 12, 2021, 08:08:25 AM
Meds aren't going to fix everything, man. You need to at least try and give them a chance to help. I'll take the time to graph it if you want proof, but the vast majority of your posts are negative. You're constantly criticizing and critiquing the most pointless stuff. You get angry and rant about the tiniest things. No amount of medication is going to help you if you consciously approach everything in that manner. Break the habit. If your only prerogative in a post is to complain, don't post it. Don't let your mind go there. Stop fueling that fire.

You very well may have wiring in your brain that causes depression, but approaching everything and speaking as you do is doing you no favors. You're further reinforcing those feelings within yourself, and it isn't helping you any.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on November 12, 2021, 09:46:54 AM
Brian said it way better, but I'll add that there are no miracle cures.  People don't lose 150 lbs. because they "love dieting!" or it's easy. They don't eat cauliflower for one meal and get instant results.  It's no mistake that Bill's friends take things "one day at a time". I've been in therapy now for the better part of 15 years, and I don't see it ending anytime soon.   For me, therapy is like someone else going out for a run, or doing 35 jumping jacks.  It's an exercise, with long term goals.

You have to WANT to be different, and it stems from there.  If you LIKE being this way, so be it, but then own it, don't complain about it every chance you get (I mean, I suppose you can, that's on you, but at some point it's going to be the boy crying wolf). 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on November 12, 2021, 01:26:30 PM
I'm glad I've got my drums as that genuinely does help. Plus since March 2020 i've been trying to learn some actual rudiments.

My double strokes and my 6 stroke rolls are now both up to 180 BPM.

Slow progress but progress.

Anyone see Rob "Beatdown" Brown on Youtube ? His drum lessons are so easy to understand. He makes everything so simple

like " Here's how you do doubles. Drop the stick - then snap it back with your fingers. THATS IT. Go practice ".

His videos go on a bit - BUT not the actual helpful info. " A six stroke roll is just two singles and two ghost doubles. EASY ".

:D
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on November 12, 2021, 01:31:33 PM
You would be jealous of my buddy who takes Zoom classes with Todd Sucherman. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on November 12, 2021, 01:34:12 PM
Well..I have Drumeo Edge for a year so I can watch all of Todds Zoom classes - but not participate.

Still cool though.:)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on November 12, 2021, 01:44:08 PM
Well..I have Drumeo Edge for a year so I can watch all of Todds Zoom classes - but not participate.

Still cool though.:)

He bought his signature ride cymbal from Sabian as well.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on November 12, 2021, 02:53:36 PM
>_>It's not a contest...
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on November 12, 2021, 04:45:51 PM
No, not at all. As a drummer the sound is clean, pristine and resonates.  He put some hard work into it for sure.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on November 13, 2021, 01:32:55 PM
Todd is great for sure :tup
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Kotowboy on November 14, 2021, 07:06:51 AM
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Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: cramx3 on December 14, 2021, 10:15:13 AM
Angry.

Worked very late last night in Frankfurt, drove to Amsterdam this morning (about 5 or so hours) checked into my hotel.  I notice the toilet is full of piss.  Otherwise the room seems clean and unused so I flush the toilet.  I start unpacked and sit at the desk, log into work to check on things and start figuring out my gameplan for the rest of the day...I notice the toilet is still running.  I go check, it's not actually running, but it sounds like it is and it won't stop.  I flush and bang on it... it just keeps making the sound like a faucet is running.  I grab the phone to call the front desk, phone doesn't work.  So I pack up and head to the front desk to complain, they give me a new room.  First thing I do is flush the toilet... same exact problem.  After 15 minutes to just make sure I wasn't being impatient, I go back down (phone also doesn't work).  This time the guy doesnt believe me because he said he went to the room I just left and said he didn't notice the issue.  So we go back ot the new room and sure enough, it's still sounds like a faucet is running.  Now I'm just flat out exhausted and very annoyed now.  I say get me a room that isn't sounding like that or I'm cancelling the reservation.  He goes to a different room to check, comes back saying it must be a hotel issue and he can't help me.   >:( >:( >:( 

I should add, I had issues with my Amsterdam hotel last week when I came in for a few nights before going to Frankfurt.  I don't know what is up with the hotels here, but it's pathetic.  Oh and I need sleep badly.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on December 14, 2021, 10:50:34 AM
You don't travel with ear plugs?  I always used to... for the times when the walls were thin or some convention was in town.  You get in those hotels with all the rooms on the outer walls, and just an open 'column' in the middle, and fuck does the sound from the lobby/bar travel.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on December 14, 2021, 10:53:15 AM
Can't you just get high? I feel like that's why no one else noticed it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: cramx3 on December 14, 2021, 11:04:14 AM
Can't you just get high? I feel like that's why no one else noticed it.

 :rollin I was so mad, I went right to the coffeeshop down the street and got dinner and a beer after.  Felt so much better, but still a bit mad.

You don't travel with ear plugs?  I always used to... for the times when the walls were thin or some convention was in town.  You get in those hotels with all the rooms on the outer walls, and just an open 'column' in the middle, and fuck does the sound from the lobby/bar travel.

No, I don't really ever use ear plugs.  I've never had such an issue with the noise in a hotel like that.  It was driving me insane, but I don't think just covering my ears is acceptable from a customer standpoint. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Evermind on December 14, 2021, 11:42:47 AM
Can't you just get high? I feel like that's why no one else noticed it.

I've heard everything non-essential is closed after like 5 PM though so you'll have to get high in advance.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: cramx3 on December 14, 2021, 12:31:40 PM
Can't you just get high? I feel like that's why no one else noticed it.

I've heard everything non-essential is closed after like 5 PM though so you'll have to get high in advance.

So apparently the coffeeshop I went to closes at 10pm, which is the time essential shops close so I guess they consider it essential like they do for dispensaries and liqour shops in the US  :lol but sadly they are only take out only even before 5pm.  That was really the best part about a coffee shop, sitting there and using it in public.  The place I went to dinner tonight, I got in at 4:40pm, they had my meal out at 4:50, and my check was there at 5pm and service was stopped although they said I could take my time eating and didnt need to immediately leave.  This 5pm dining closing SUCKs especially for someone working late every day dealing with people in EST hours.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Harmony on December 16, 2021, 03:44:21 PM
My sister died Monday night.  She was 51 and in good health until this past fall.  She had 2 hospitalizations since Thanksgiving and was sent home prematurely in my opinion and collapsed in her home in front of her 2 kids while my brother-in-law did CPR until the paramedics came.

I'm in hell.  This is what hell must be like.

So what I don't need is for one of my brother-in-law's conservative friends to text me out of the blue and suggest I "be sure to read the death certificate and make sure it doesn't list Covid as her cause of death."

My dude, she was fully vaccinated and she's had no less than 12 Covid tests in the last 3 months - all negative - and I don't need your conspiracy theoried opinion about what I should do to further your own fucked up political agenda.

I'm writing this to say please for the love of life, don't be THAT guy to someone you know who is going through the loss of a loved one.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on December 16, 2021, 03:53:34 PM
Holy fucking shit.

I am so sorry to hear that. Fuck!

Sorry..do they know what ailed her?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on December 16, 2021, 04:50:22 PM
Oh dear god... Harmony, I'm so so sorry for your loss :hug:.  I'm not sure how much it means to hear from internet friends, but my thoughts are with your and your sister's family.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Grappler on December 16, 2021, 06:08:18 PM
So sorry to hear that Harmony!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cool Chris on December 16, 2021, 06:25:05 PM
Last year with Covid, when my wife was all "What do you want for your birthday/Christmas..." all I could think of was "Nothing. I don't want stuff. I have enough stuff. I want to spend time with my family." I couldn't imagine a world where I was encouraged or restricted from seeing my family. And I cannot imagine receiving news of my sister's passing.

My heart is with you Harmony.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on December 17, 2021, 06:39:46 AM
Harmony, my heart goes out to you.  I'm sorry you and your family have to go through that, especially at this time of year.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: cramx3 on December 17, 2021, 07:05:36 AM
Very sorry for your loss Harmony.  So sad and it doesn't help to have people say stupid shit in this time.  smh
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Harmony on December 20, 2021, 09:07:12 AM
Thanks guys.

It's still hard to believe she's gone and about 100 times a day I go to send her a text.  Today I get her unalome tattoo on my forearm.

To answer TAC's question, it was a cardiac event.  But it had been brewing and I was growing increasingly frustrated with the lack of appropriate care she was getting.  She had a minor surgery in September and began having a nagging cough and high blood pressure seemingly out of the blue.  No one would see her in office until she had at least 2 negative Covid tests.  They diagnosed asthma, gave her antibiotics and 3 antihypertensive meds, and sent her on her way.  The cough never really went away.

She then had a septum repair and a clean out of her sinuses in early November.  The night before Thanksgiving she was very sick and became unresponsive.  Paramedics responded and she was in the ICU with c-diff (thank you antibiotics) for 4 days.  She had a lot of testing.  Everything negative yet still with this cough.  She went back to the ER less than a week after she came home and was admitted to another hospital because her coughing attacks made her oxygen levels drop dangerously low.  They couldn't find anything and suggested it was related to her sinus surgery.

The day she died she had her post op with her ENT.  Sinuses were so swollen he could not get the scope up so the plan was yet another round of steroids.  Around 9 pm I got a text from her that she'd had a coughing fit and was wheezing and couldn't not catch her breath.  Inhalers weren't helping.  My brother-in-law was out walking the dog.  She stopped responding to my texts and apparently had texted 911 to him and he called the paramedics on the run back in with the dog and found her collapsed in the entry way.  He started compressions in front of my nephews until the paramedics arrived and took over.  They worked on her for 45 minutes but she was in asystole and they couldn't save her.

Christmas was literally her favorite time of year.  She always started listening to Christmas music the day after Labor Day.  An hour or so after she passed the EMTs had put her on the sofa in front of their Christmas tree so we could have a last goodbye.  Big huge flakes of beautiful fluffy snow came down, quickly blanketing the ground and making a cocoon of white outside.  Funny thing is that the snow seemed to be limited to their neighborhood and no other areas in the city.  And we've asked around; nobody else had snow.

I know it was her way of saying goodbye.  :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on December 20, 2021, 09:42:14 AM
Damn Harmony, that’s heartbreaking to read. We’ll be certainly thinking of the Harmony’s this week.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on December 20, 2021, 10:40:58 AM
I’m so sorry to hear this Harmony. Keeping you in my thoughts.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on December 20, 2021, 12:02:49 PM
 :'( :'(

I'm seriously here in tears over this.  So tragic.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on December 20, 2021, 01:34:47 PM
You got me with the last paragraph; it's your time, your story, but suffice that I experienced a very similar thing when my friend Mary passed (also of a cardiac event, also at a criminally young age). 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on December 20, 2021, 03:23:17 PM
That was a touching and heartbreaking read Harmony.  I'm very sorry for your loss.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Podaar on December 21, 2021, 05:26:38 AM
I echo everyone else, Harmony. I'm not good at this, so forgive me. I'll be thinking of you with sympathy.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on December 22, 2021, 10:41:43 AM
This mask shit, on or off?

https://www.aier.org/article/medical-journal-warns-about-maskss-potentially-devastating-consequences/
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: carl320 on December 23, 2021, 09:40:00 PM
This mask shit, on or off?

https://www.aier.org/article/medical-journal-warns-about-maskss-potentially-devastating-consequences/

Is this even the right thread for this?
Also https://retractionwatch.com/2021/04/29/mask-study-was-misleading-and-misquotes-citations-says-elsevier/ (https://retractionwatch.com/2021/04/29/mask-study-was-misleading-and-misquotes-citations-says-elsevier/)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on December 23, 2021, 09:42:02 PM
This mask shit, on or off?

https://www.aier.org/article/medical-journal-warns-about-maskss-potentially-devastating-consequences/

Is this even the right thread for this?
Also https://retractionwatch.com/2021/04/29/mask-study-was-misleading-and-misquotes-citations-says-elsevier/ (https://retractionwatch.com/2021/04/29/mask-study-was-misleading-and-misquotes-citations-says-elsevier/)

It is something that confuses (upsets) me.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: XJDenton on December 24, 2021, 01:41:21 PM
As an academic myself, that is rather irritating.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 26, 2021, 04:02:05 PM
Just got a call from a coworker. A long time coworker and friend suffered a massive heart attack this weekend and is expected to pass tonight. I talk with him all the time. I've been to his condo in Chicago several times. He sends Christmas goodies to my family every year. He worked on Thursday. We talked. Everything was fine. Now it's not. We built so much together at our job and it feels like a limb has been cut off. This is the second close friend I have lost on the job in the last 2 years. It just sucks.

Then, while reaching out to an even longer coworker and friend to let him know what is going on, he tells me his wife passed on Wednesday from cancer. He hadn't even told anyone yet. Talk about a gut punch. I lost my love for this holiday a long time ago. This has made me hate it that much more.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on December 26, 2021, 04:03:26 PM
Jesus, man. WTF? That is quite an awful post. So sorry to hear all that.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on December 26, 2021, 04:08:52 PM
Just got a call from a coworker. A long time coworker and friend suffered a massive heart attack this weekend and is expected to pass tonight. I talk with him all the time. I've been to his condo in Chicago several times. He sends Christmas goodies to my family every year. He worked on Thursday. We talked. Everything was fine. Now it's not. We built so much together at our job and it feels like a limb has been cut off. This is the second close friend I have lost on the job in the last 2 years. It just sucks.

Then, while reaching out to an even longer coworker and friend to let him know what is going on, he tells me his wife passed on Wednesday from cancer. He hadn't even told anyone yet. Talk about a gut punch. I lost my love for this holiday a long time ago. This has made me hate it that much more.

I’m sick to my stomach reading this and literally feel your pain. I’m so very sorry. Sending strength and prayers to you!!!! 😞
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cool Chris on December 26, 2021, 05:37:56 PM
This isn't a jab at you Professor, as I am confident you have your reasons. But I feel bad when people do not enjoy the holiday season.

For reasons I haven't mentioned here, and won't for now, my wife is furious at my mom and is avoiding even being in the same room as her. We worked around that on Christmas as my parents were at my sister's house, and I took the kids there for a couple hours. Add to that my wife's parents had to cancel their trip here at the last minute because her dad was in too much pain due to a pinched nerve. Her sister is here at least, and everyone is in good spirits. But when my wife kept asking me what I want for Christmas, I just wanted to shout at her all I wanted was for our families to be together.

"Maybe Christmas doesn't come from a store; Maybe Christmas, perhaps, means a little bit more."
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 27, 2021, 12:08:56 PM
But when my wife kept asking me what I want for Christmas, I just wanted to shout at her all I wanted was for our families to be together.


This is what Christmas always was to me as money was never really a thing for us. Christmas Eve was always my Dad's family and Christmas Day was Mom's. It was more about being together than anything else. Then, it's like a switch was flipped. Maybe 18 or so years ago. The gatherings just stopped. I have not had Christmas with either side of my family in that time. Actually, all gatherings seem to have stopped. They stopped on my Dad's side when my Grandma died. Not even sure what happened on Mom's, but they just stopped inviting us and then when Mom died, it's like we don't exist. My Uncle (Mom's brother) died over the Summer. He lived in Missouri. Everyone assumed that me and my sister would not show for the service. They were shocked when we walked in the room.

These last few years, Christmas has been owned by my narcissist mother-in-law. I'm not good enough. My kids aren't good enough. My wife needs to leave me and move back home to be their slave, etc. This year my daughter refused to go and I got word yesterday that my son has proclaimed he wants nothing to do with my mother-in-law and stepfather-in-law anymore. He has autism and they railed on him all week. Called him stupid and incapable of learning basic life lessons.

Next year may be my first Christmas with my family in some time. We'll see. My wife always gives into her mother. I guarantee my kids won't be going. I will honor their wishes.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on January 23, 2022, 11:05:53 AM
My father has dementia and alzheimer since a couple of years and this year it has gotten worse and more noticable. He often says that he dosen't believe he's at home when he's at home. My mother has a tough time convincing him that he's infact at home.
Sometimes when I visit he want's me to drive him home because his wife (my mother) dosen't wanna call a taxi which is actually kinda funny.

Since non of my siblings lives at home anymore my mother has it really rough and that's the part that's really saddens me. I can see that it's wearing her down and it won't get easier either.
The fact that you can't really help or do anything about it is the frustrating part. I try to call and visit as often as I can, all my siblings do and be as supportive as we can.

He's slowling fading away and that thought makes me so sad.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on January 23, 2022, 11:35:02 AM
My father has dementia and alzheimer since a couple of years and this year it has gotten worse and more noticable. He often says that he dosen't believe he's at home when he's at home. My mother has a tough time convincing him that he's infact at home.
Sometimes when I visit he want's me to drive him home because his wife (my mother) dosen't wanna call a taxi which is actually kinda funny.

Since non of my siblings lives at home anymore my mother has it really rough and that's the part that's really saddens me. I can see that it's wearing her down and it won't get easier either.
The fact that you can't really help or do anything about it is the frustrating part. I try to call and visit as often as I can, all my siblings do and be as supportive as we can.

He's slowling fading away and that thought makes me so sad.

I'm so so sorry you are going through this. I know this pain, its almost like you feel guilty not being there 24/7 but having you're own responsibilities make it impossible. After losing my father to brain cancer as the pandemic started my mom has been slowly slipping away emotionally and now she will not eat or take her diabetes and blood pressure meds let alone tend to her personal hygiene. She is losing a sense of reality and she looks hollow when I look in her eyes and now she is starting to fall frequently, its horrific. Shes 71 but used to be so strong. My heart is TRULY with you and you're family. If you ever need to vent or talk please reach out.  :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on January 23, 2022, 11:47:00 AM
My father has dementia and alzheimer since a couple of years and this year it has gotten worse and more noticable. He often says that he dosen't believe he's at home when he's at home. My mother has a tough time convincing him that he's infact at home.
Sometimes when I visit he want's me to drive him home because his wife (my mother) dosen't wanna call a taxi which is actually kinda funny.

Since non of my siblings lives at home anymore my mother has it really rough and that's the part that's really saddens me. I can see that it's wearing her down and it won't get easier either.
The fact that you can't really help or do anything about it is the frustrating part. I try to call and visit as often as I can, all my siblings do and be as supportive as we can.

He's slowling fading away and that thought makes me so sad.

I'm so so sorry you are going through this. I know this pain, its almost like you feel guilty not being there 24/7 but having you're own responsibilities make it impossible. After losing my father to brain cancer as the pandemic started my mom has been slowly slipping away emotionally and now she will not eat or take her diabetes and blood pressure meds let alone tend to her personal hygiene. She is losing a sense of reality and she looks hollow when I look in her eyes and now she is starting to fall frequently, its horrific. Shes 71 but used to be so strong. My heart is TRULY with you and you're family. If you ever need to vent or talk please reach out.  :heart
Thank you so much for the words.  :heart I say the same about your mother, so sorry to hear that.

To see your parents become weaker is just so heartbreaking. We all have to go through it one way or the other but it's always equally hard I think.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on January 23, 2022, 12:31:04 PM
My thoughts are with you, guys.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Spiritus on January 23, 2022, 10:24:55 PM
I just noticed Kotowboy has not posted in 2 months or been active. (According to his profile).  Hope he is doing ok.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on January 24, 2022, 12:53:34 AM
I just noticed Kotowboy has not posted in 2 months or been active. (According to his profile).  Hope he is doing ok.

I thought about him too the other day.  Couldn't help but to think negative things but yeah hopefully he's okay.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on January 24, 2022, 05:31:44 AM
I just noticed Kotowboy has not posted in 2 months or been active. (According to his profile).  Hope he is doing ok.

I thought about him too the other day.  Couldn't help but to think negative things but yeah hopefully he's okay.

He got perma banned - check his post history and you'll see why.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: cramx3 on January 25, 2022, 11:33:34 AM
I just noticed Kotowboy has not posted in 2 months or been active. (According to his profile).  Hope he is doing ok.

I thought about him too the other day.  Couldn't help but to think negative things but yeah hopefully he's okay.

He got perma banned - check his post history and you'll see why.

 :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on January 25, 2022, 01:19:37 PM
Ah ha.  :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Podaar on January 25, 2022, 04:24:50 PM
He never should have called Hef, bald. SMH
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: JayOctavarium on March 06, 2022, 03:16:02 PM
Man I've been in a funk the last week. A lot of it has to do with Ukraine. I don't have family there or any roots, and have a single friend who was born there... But what's going on is fucking awful... And I think it's been enough to push me over the edge. The constant saturation of bad news on the news (lots of other shit as well as Ukraine) as well as on Social Media has totally burned me out.

It's a bummer because social media is usually a good way for me to get away. Scrolling through FB/Tik Tok / Insta / Twitter... But now it's all just doom scrolling. Hard to get away from it though since at least 1/4 of our income comes from social media and having to follow trends and shit (part of my GFs income comes from Instagram).

I've been trying really hard, especially since I started working again, to keep a positive attitude. Meds and therapy really do help, but like .. idk.

What makes it even worse is my other half has been in a decent mood and we have plans to go do shit on my "weekend" (Tues and Wednesday), which is rare because shit in our relationship, and I'm still like "meh".

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Skeever on July 19, 2022, 11:07:28 AM
I've been having a lot of health issues recently, and the anxiety is starting to get to me.
I've been sick on regular basis since my son started daycare a year ago. It IS getting better (went from a new cold/flu every week, to maybe something every 3-4 weeks). But after bout 2 of Hand, Foot, and Mouth last month, I had an incredible scare where my joints locked up and I lost like 70% of my grip strength/fine motor skills for 1-2 days. Then, last night, I was so tired and sick feeling, and I kept having chills that were causing involuntary tremors in my whole body. I just felt so sad, like something was seriously wrong with me. I can't even imagine getting some kind of horrible diagnosis and knowing that I won't be healthy enough to play as active a role in my son's life as I want. Even now, I've been letting Mommy do a lot of the heavy lifting. I've just been really sore/stiff lately, in addition to exhausted, and rarely feeling well.

Went through a whole thing with Orthopedics, doing a nerve test on my arm and everything, but nothing turned up. So next step is to talk to my GP about getting some kind of blood work done to evaluate potential arthritis.

On another note: the chills and full body tremors are something that I never experienced except as a side-effect to shot 3 of the vaccine. So now I've got that paranoia working for me.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dublagent66 on July 19, 2022, 12:08:09 PM
Not much to be happy about these days.  Small doses here and there, that's about it.  :\
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Lonk on July 19, 2022, 12:25:19 PM
I've been having a lot of health issues recently, and the anxiety is starting to get to me.
I've been sick on regular basis since my son started daycare a year ago. It IS getting better (went from a new cold/flu every week, to maybe something every 3-4 weeks). But after bout 2 of Hand, Foot, and Mouth last month, I had an incredible scare where my joints locked up and I lost like 70% of my grip strength/fine motor skills for 1-2 days. Then, last night, I was so tired and sick feeling, and I kept having chills that were causing involuntary tremors in my whole body. I just felt so sad, like something was seriously wrong with me. I can't even imagine getting some kind of horrible diagnosis and knowing that I won't be healthy enough to play as active a role in my son's life as I want. Even now, I've been letting Mommy do a lot of the heavy lifting. I've just been really sore/stiff lately, in addition to exhausted, and rarely feeling well.

Went through a whole thing with Orthopedics, doing a nerve test on my arm and everything, but nothing turned up. So next step is to talk to my GP about getting some kind of blood work done to evaluate potential arthritis.

On another note: the chills and full body tremors are something that I never experienced except as a side-effect to shot 3 of the vaccine. So now I've got that paranoia working for me.

That's terrifying, but good that you are taking steps to see if there is a diagnosis. Hope is nothing major/serious.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: cramx3 on July 19, 2022, 12:32:34 PM
I've been having a lot of health issues recently, and the anxiety is starting to get to me.
I've been sick on regular basis since my son started daycare a year ago. It IS getting better (went from a new cold/flu every week, to maybe something every 3-4 weeks). But after bout 2 of Hand, Foot, and Mouth last month, I had an incredible scare where my joints locked up and I lost like 70% of my grip strength/fine motor skills for 1-2 days. Then, last night, I was so tired and sick feeling, and I kept having chills that were causing involuntary tremors in my whole body. I just felt so sad, like something was seriously wrong with me. I can't even imagine getting some kind of horrible diagnosis and knowing that I won't be healthy enough to play as active a role in my son's life as I want. Even now, I've been letting Mommy do a lot of the heavy lifting. I've just been really sore/stiff lately, in addition to exhausted, and rarely feeling well.

Went through a whole thing with Orthopedics, doing a nerve test on my arm and everything, but nothing turned up. So next step is to talk to my GP about getting some kind of blood work done to evaluate potential arthritis.

On another note: the chills and full body tremors are something that I never experienced except as a side-effect to shot 3 of the vaccine. So now I've got that paranoia working for me.

That sounds terrible and scary.  I hope the doctors can find out what's causing all this. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on August 31, 2022, 01:32:37 PM
 I genuinely don't get the point of existence. Happiness is never without trial and not every one has the will power to endure what life throws at them. I don't want to live just to pay taxes and wallow in poverty for another 20 or 30 years. I cannot believe that I even made it to 52 with how little talent I have. Life sucks and I want off this mortal coil, maybe then I'll have the complete freedom that life cannot bring me. Just really tired and needed to vent. I really try to be optimistic but I keep falling.  :|
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on August 31, 2022, 02:29:37 PM
Much love to you, Brother. You've been an amazing addition to DTF, and your posts have quickly become one of the must reads for me.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on August 31, 2022, 06:32:22 PM
I genuinely don't get the point of existence. Happiness is never without trial and not every one has the will power to endure what life throws at them. I don't want to live just to pay taxes and wallow in poverty for another 20 or 30 years. I cannot believe that I even made it to 52 with how little talent I have. Life sucks and I want off this mortal coil, maybe then I'll have the complete freedom that life cannot bring me. Just really tired and needed to vent. I really try to be optimistic but I keep falling.  :|

Tom, you've kind of summed up a lot of thoughts I've had the last six months.  I kind of have a lot of thoughts I could express but I'm at my desk on my phone and wouldn't know where to start.

Just know, that you are certainly not alone in your thinking.  As Tim said, you've become an integral part of this family here and we value you greatly. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cool Chris on August 31, 2022, 10:46:14 PM
There was a period in the late 90s where I struggled finding reasons to enjoy life. I played the game of wondering who would show up at my funeral if I didn't wake up in the morning, and didn't come up with many answers. There were a couple, and that helped me keep going. Somewhere along the way I made some changes in my life and altered my perspective on things that improved my outlook. I wish I could pinpoint a specific event or circumstance, but looking back it was more gradual than that. No light bulb went off, no catalyst spurred the change. What I do remember is that I made the choice to not base my life around my worth to others. That sounds selfish typing it out, but what I did was to make sure I took care of myself, and found pockets of happiness wherever I could, without worrying if anyone cared about me, or what their expectations of me may be. I was the one person who I would always have to live with, so keeping that in mind helped me appreciate me more. 

Glasser, I can't say I know much about you, so I am not necessarily directing this at you. I have been questioning life lately myself, so "how did I get where I am today?" has been on my mind. I've made a ton of mistakes and hurt many people along the way to 46. Some of them still weigh on me daily. But I can't do anything about that. I will do my best to live for today, and tomorrow when I get up I will do the same.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on September 01, 2022, 07:54:34 AM
I genuinely don't get the point of existence. Happiness is never without trial and not every one has the will power to endure what life throws at them. I don't want to live just to pay taxes and wallow in poverty for another 20 or 30 years. I cannot believe that I even made it to 52 with how little talent I have. Life sucks and I want off this mortal coil, maybe then I'll have the complete freedom that life cannot bring me. Just really tired and needed to vent. I really try to be optimistic but I keep falling.  :|

Tom, you've kind of summed up a lot of thoughts I've had the last six months.  I kind of have a lot of thoughts I could express but I'm at my desk on my phone and wouldn't know where to start.

Just know, that you are certainly not alone in your thinking.  As Tim said, you've become an integral part of this family here and we value you greatly.

The notion of "perspective" is fascinating to me.  I read statements like this - and I'm respectful of your feelings - but then I think from my perspective, and I'm with TAC: you both bring a lot of joy and positivity to not just my life, but others here as well.  I know it's just words, but to the extent it helps you both, I look forward to talking with both of you here and experiencing your perspectives on the music (and other topics) we all share. 

Specifically for Wolfking, watching you play your guitar is always a treat, and very entertaining (in a good way).
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on September 01, 2022, 02:05:08 PM
I'm sorry to dump my bullshit here as it is pathetic but this thread is here for a reason. I appreciate you all very much, and Stadler, you say they are just words but it means a lot. We all have shit to deal with but sometimes it gets to a boiling point and I question it all. I'm going through a lot right now. Without getting detailed I'm still grieving my parents passings, physical crap, emotional crap, blah blah.... I literally feel the Holidays coming and outside my wife and kids which I am grateful for, my family is gone, and sadly now I'm that grumpy guy who wants the holidays over with. I have a level of comfort here so what you all say does make a difference. I truly love this forum and the comradery. Thank you!  :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on September 01, 2022, 02:58:41 PM
Thanks Bill.  I appreciate that we've been able to get a lot closer this year.  I'm doing okay I just can relate to Tom.  I still think I want to put some thoughts down to try and help Tom with his posts but it's a busy week and I have an audit going on at work this morning in an hour.  :facepalm:

Work is another thing that can be brought up.  This endless fucking Groundhog Day of shit over and over just to earn a living, good lord!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on September 01, 2022, 03:44:41 PM
I genuinely don't get the point of existence. Happiness is never without trial and not every one has the will power to endure what life throws at them. I don't want to live just to pay taxes and wallow in poverty for another 20 or 30 years. I cannot believe that I even made it to 52 with how little talent I have. Life sucks and I want off this mortal coil, maybe then I'll have the complete freedom that life cannot bring me. Just really tired and needed to vent. I really try to be optimistic but I keep falling.  :|

It's good to vent. Get it out and then get on the horse again. I try to focus on the good moments.  Anytime you need to talk, we are all here for you.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: KevShmev on September 01, 2022, 03:47:03 PM
I genuinely don't get the point of existence. Happiness is never without trial and not every one has the will power to endure what life throws at them. I don't want to live just to pay taxes and wallow in poverty for another 20 or 30 years. I cannot believe that I even made it to 52 with how little talent I have. Life sucks and I want off this mortal coil, maybe then I'll have the complete freedom that life cannot bring me. Just really tired and needed to vent. I really try to be optimistic but I keep falling.  :|

As someone having a bad year myself, I feel ya.  Hang in there, though, and like others have said, don't be afraid to reach out.  Chatting about music or whatever here can certainly help.  :tup :tup
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cool Chris on September 01, 2022, 08:49:39 PM
This is from some iteration of the TV show Degrassi. I watched the show growing up when it was in its original incarnation, which featured these characters as kids,. A ton of backstory helps, which makes it more meaningful for me, but basically the bald guy is struggling with having cancer, and the other guy is his estranged friend who just got out of prison after killing a kid while driving drunk. Relevant part is 1:49-3:15. Makes me smile and tear up at the same time.

https://youtu.be/ET9dih_yMzA?t=109

Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on September 01, 2022, 09:01:57 PM
 :heart :heart :heart :heart :heart :heart :heart :heart :heart :heart :heart :heart :heart :heart :heart :heart :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on September 02, 2022, 06:49:04 AM
2022 has been the shits it seems for more than a few.  I'm at a point where I have zero fuck's to give about anything ... just existing and going thru the motions.  Hard to care about much, least of all myself, when it seems like no one else cares about the things that matter to me.  It's hard to keep filling up the tank by myself, and right now, I'm on empty.

Faking a smile is so much easier than explaining why you're sad.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on September 02, 2022, 04:00:48 PM
2022 has been the shits it seems for more than a few.  I'm at a point where I have zero fuck's to give about anything ... just existing and going thru the motions.  Hard to care about much, least of all myself, when it seems like no one else cares about the things that matter to me.  It's hard to keep filling up the tank by myself, and right now, I'm on empty.

Faking a smile is so much easier than explaining why you're sad.

I'm sorry you're feeling this way too my friend, but you are so right. It's pointless bitching, everyone's wrapped up in their own crap on this DICK SKIN planet.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on September 02, 2022, 04:57:35 PM
2022 has been the shits it seems for more than a few.  I'm at a point where I have zero fuck's to give about anything ... just existing and going thru the motions.  Hard to care about much, least of all myself, when it seems like no one else cares about the things that matter to me.  It's hard to keep filling up the tank by myself, and right now, I'm on empty.

Faking a smile is so much easier than explaining why you're sad.

Here for you any time Chad.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dublagent66 on September 06, 2022, 03:32:05 PM
2022 has been the shits it seems for more than a few.  I'm at a point where I have zero fuck's to give about anything ... just existing and going thru the motions.  Hard to care about much, least of all myself, when it seems like no one else cares about the things that matter to me.  It's hard to keep filling up the tank by myself, and right now, I'm on empty.

Faking a smile is so much easier than explaining why you're sad.

I totally get it, but for me, it's self preservation mode.  In the last year, I've kept pretty much to myself.  No relationships to speak of.  No going out and spending money at bars every weekend. 
As little driving as possible.  The least amount of contact with others as possible.  Which leads to my next point...


Actually, I do neither.  Why should I fake being happy for someone else's sake and why should I have to explain otherwise?  It's not like anyone cares and it's none of their business anyway.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on September 06, 2022, 04:01:47 PM
2022 has been the shits it seems for more than a few.  I'm at a point where I have zero fuck's to give about anything ... just existing and going thru the motions.  Hard to care about much, least of all myself, when it seems like no one else cares about the things that matter to me.  It's hard to keep filling up the tank by myself, and right now, I'm on empty.

Faking a smile is so much easier than explaining why you're sad.

I totally get it, but for me, it's self preservation mode.  In the last year, I've kept pretty much to myself.  No relationships to speak of.  No going out and spending money at bars every weekend. 
As little driving as possible.  The least amount of contact with others as possible.  Which leads to my next point...


Actually, I do neither.  Why should I fake being happy for someone else's sake and why should I have to explain otherwise?  It's not like anyone cares and it's none of their business anyway.

I'm gonna let it fly, ready? Self preservation is fucking SURVIVAL!!! Fuck any and everyone's opinion! You do not owe anyone an explanation of what or why!!!! I'm so fucking tired of the emotional fuckery in the world!!! I refuse to be judged by anyone, nor will I judge anyone. No one walks in my shoes and knows what the fuck I'm going through! If you don't like it!!! BYE BYE!!!! I agree with you 100 fucking percent.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dublagent66 on September 06, 2022, 04:10:40 PM
2022 has been the shits it seems for more than a few.  I'm at a point where I have zero fuck's to give about anything ... just existing and going thru the motions.  Hard to care about much, least of all myself, when it seems like no one else cares about the things that matter to me.  It's hard to keep filling up the tank by myself, and right now, I'm on empty.

Faking a smile is so much easier than explaining why you're sad.

I totally get it, but for me, it's self preservation mode.  In the last year, I've kept pretty much to myself.  No relationships to speak of.  No going out and spending money at bars every weekend. 
As little driving as possible.  The least amount of contact with others as possible.  Which leads to my next point...


Actually, I do neither.  Why should I fake being happy for someone else's sake and why should I have to explain otherwise?  It's not like anyone cares and it's none of their business anyway.

I'm gonna let it fly, ready? Self preservation is fucking SURVIVAL!!! Fuck any and everyone's opinion! You do not owe anyone an explanation of what or why!!!! I'm so fucking tired of the emotional fuckery in the world!!! I refuse to be judged by anyone, nor will I judge anyone. No one walks in my shoes and knows what the fuck I'm going through! If you don't like it!!! BYE BYE!!!! I agree with you 100 fucking percent.

I also might add that you had just the right amount of fuck bombs in that post for maximum effectiveness!  :lol :tup
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on September 06, 2022, 08:50:00 PM
I keep meaning to post something here but not sure where to start.  I will though.

Dublagent, can I ask what's lead you to live like you have the last year and have you always been that way?   I get what you mean though and for me it's just work and home at the moment.  But I've always kinda been like that.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cool Chris on September 06, 2022, 09:02:58 PM
When I was in college and finally accepted I was feeling depressed, I started answering honestly when people would ask "hey, Cool Chris, how are you doing?" It's a good way to find out who your true friends are when the reply is "I'm really struggling to find a reason to get up in the morning..." instead of "quite well, thank you, how are you?"
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: KevShmev on September 06, 2022, 09:05:51 PM
2022 has been the shits it seems for more than a few.  I'm at a point where I have zero fuck's to give about anything ... just existing and going thru the motions.  Hard to care about much, least of all myself, when it seems like no one else cares about the things that matter to me.  It's hard to keep filling up the tank by myself, and right now, I'm on empty.

Faking a smile is so much easier than explaining why you're sad.

I totally get it, but for me, it's self preservation mode.  In the last year, I've kept pretty much to myself.  No relationships to speak of.  No going out and spending money at bars every weekend. 
As little driving as possible.  The least amount of contact with others as possible.  Which leads to my next point...


Actually, I do neither.  Why should I fake being happy for someone else's sake and why should I have to explain otherwise?  It's not like anyone cares and it's none of their business anyway.

I'm gonna let it fly, ready? Self preservation is fucking SURVIVAL!!! Fuck any and everyone's opinion! You do not owe anyone an explanation of what or why!!!! I'm so fucking tired of the emotional fuckery in the world!!! I refuse to be judged by anyone, nor will I judge anyone. No one walks in my shoes and knows what the fuck I'm going through! If you don't like it!!! BYE BYE!!!! I agree with you 100 fucking percent.

I agree, but I think it is fair to say that everyone deals with depression or the blues or whatever bad stuff they are going through in different ways.  If someone wants to put on a smile for to prevent the "what's wrong?"-type questions, that is what works for them.  If someone wants to not hide it all, that is what works for them.  If I am feeling down or whatever, I usually opt for "faking it" and putting on a smile as best I can, but lately it is getting more difficult, and I have had people notice I haven't been as "up." I just don't have it in me to fake it lately and act all chipper and ecstatic in general (although I have my moments).  Life blows.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: soupytwist on September 07, 2022, 07:28:56 AM
I'll just found this out today, I mean I'm not even sure how to feel about it...

My Brother-In-Law had been seeing a therapist for a few months due to feeling depressed.  Couple of weeks ago he had his session cancelled, he found out over this weekend it was because his therapist committed suicide.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on September 07, 2022, 07:44:01 AM
I'll just found this out today, I mean I'm not even sure how to feel about it...

My Brother-In-Law had been seeing a therapist for a few months due to feeling depressed.  Couple of weeks ago he had his session cancelled, he found out over this weekend it was because his therapist committed suicide.

It's definitely something hard to wrap your head around.  I hope your Brother in Law goes to another therapist right away.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on September 07, 2022, 11:39:58 AM
So I have at least two, maybe three people UNDER MY ROOF that are battling some level of depression (thankfully they are all getting help). I don't think I'm depressed per se - my therapist doesn't think so - but I'm in that group, in that it seems more of an uphill battle each day, and there seems to be more and more incentive to both drink and play PlayStation on any given day after work.   But this is an interesting conversation; where is the line and how do we balance that?  I don't know that I get any salvation from telling people "life's treating me like a baby treats a diaper, thanks!".    Isn't the "zero fucks given" sort of what we write about in some of the other threads?

None of this is meant to be insensitive; we're among friends here so it's different.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ProfessorPeart on September 07, 2022, 12:12:39 PM
Not sure where to put this but I needed somewhere to vent.

My wife went into the hospital on 7/26 with double pneumonia. She spent a week in the hospital and was discharged because she could breathe on her own without issue. A week later we were back in the ER. Pneumonia came raging back. She spent a week there and then got moved to a long-term acute care hospital where she was for a week.

Yesterday we were back in the ER again. Her pneumonia is gone but her lungs are not working well. She is now at her worst since she got sick. They have her on a special breathing machine at the moment. She called not too long ago and she is having a slew of tests and procedures scheduled to try and figure out why her lungs are so bad.

I was rolling with it, but it's starting to really weigh me down emotionally right now. November will be 30 years that we have been together as a couple. I don't know anything else other than being with her. I just want this to be over and her to be home.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on September 07, 2022, 01:46:42 PM
Not sure where to put this but I needed somewhere to vent.

My wife went into the hospital on 7/26 with double pneumonia. She spent a week in the hospital and was discharged because she could breathe on her own without issue. A week later we were back in the ER. Pneumonia came raging back. She spent a week there and then got moved to a long-term acoute care hospital where she was for a week.

Yesterday we were back in the ER again. Her pneumonia is gone but her lungs are not working well. She is now at her worst since she got sick. They have her on a special breathing machine at the moment. She called not too long ago and she is having a slew of tests and procedures scheduled to try and figure out why her lungs are so bad.

I was rolling with it, but it's starting to really weigh me down emotionally right now. November will be 30 years that we have been together as a couple. I don't know anything else other than being with her. I just want this to be over and her to be home.

I'm so crushed to hear you and your wife are going through this, it makes me feel sick reading it. I wish I could hug you right now. Its such a vulnerable and helpless feeling I'm sure. From the bottom of my heart I'm sending strength, positive healing vibes and love to you both! Please keep us updated on her recovery status and reach out if you need to talk. I'm sure I speak for us all on this forum.  :heart :heart :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on September 07, 2022, 01:48:41 PM
Not sure where to put this but I needed somewhere to vent.

My wife went into the hospital on 7/26 with double pneumonia. She spent a week in the hospital and was discharged because she could breathe on her own without issue. A week later we were back in the ER. Pneumonia came raging back. She spent a week there and then got moved to a long-term acoute care hospital where she was for a week.

Yesterday we were back in the ER again. Her pneumonia is gone but her lungs are not working well. She is now at her worst since she got sick. They have her on a special breathing machine at the moment. She called not too long ago and she is having a slew of tests and procedures scheduled to try and figure out why her lungs are so bad.

I was rolling with it, but it's starting to really weigh me down emotionally right now. November will be 30 years that we have been together as a couple. I don't know anything else other than being with her. I just want this to be over and her to be home.

Ugh. Hopefully they'll figure it out soon, and that it's not too serious.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: geeeemo on September 07, 2022, 02:24:08 PM
I have a 21 year old son that has been battling depression, anxiety disorder for many years. He has been seeing psychiatrist and therapists since he was 9.  It was all going fairly well, but he had a very big breakdown when he was 16. He was an avid athlete and a baseball prospect. He quit baseball, and focused on basketball. Was recruited and had scholarships to play in college.
But then he needed ankle surgery. He found out right before he left.  He had had trouble before, but we all thought the summer rest and PT was going to do the trick.
Anyway he went to college for 2 days, realized he couldn't connect with the players on the team as they all met to run etc. He had the surgery, rehabbed, got re-recruited to a JC as he had lost confidence. Then covid and online school happened. And fires in the mountain town the college was in. All too much, and he begged to be put into a mental hospital and couldn't go to college. That was in 2020.

He was in outpatient for 5 weeks/30 hours per week at the mental hospital. No better. He has no friends, no way to feel better as sports was his way. He has learning disabilities, and is limited in things he can do.

I have been to every dr., therapist visit and my own therapist as well. One reason is to understand how to parent a child with MI differently. My husband never would go, and now the marriage after 26 years is busted. I live with my son, who just can't get over the hump. He is developing a throat clearing tic and he messes with his eye so much that it gets infected at times. (another anxiety issue)

People, no matter how much they want to care and understand, have not a clue. Its a sucky life, but way worse for him than me. I am limited in how much I can be away from him. Concerts are one way for me to self-care. But going (especially out of town - and I save that for very special shows, DT and JP pretty much) requires an enormous amount of work ahead of time, and I have to try to find someone to stay with or check on him.

I feel for all of you suffering. I hear you though, and am giving you all a hug.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on September 07, 2022, 02:47:08 PM
I have a 21 year old son that has been battling depression, anxiety disorder for many years. He has been seeing psychiatrist and therapists since he was 9.  It was all going fairly well, but he had a very big breakdown when he was 16. He was an avid athlete and a baseball prospect. He quit baseball, and focused on basketball. Was recruited and had scholarships to play in college.
But then he needed ankle surgery. He found out right before he left.  He had had trouble before, but we all thought the summer rest and PT was going to do the trick.
Anyway he went to college for 2 days, realized he couldn't connect with the players on the team as they all met to run etc. He had the surgery, rehabbed, got re-recruited to a JC as he had lost confidence. Then covid and online school happened. And fires in the mountain town the college was in. All too much, and he begged to be put into a mental hospital and couldn't go to college. That was in 2020.

He was in outpatient for 5 weeks/30 hours per week at the mental hospital. No better. He has no friends, no way to feel better as sports was his way. He has learning disabilities, and is limited in things he can do.

I have been to every dr., therapist visit and my own therapist as well. One reason is to understand how to parent a child with MI differently. My husband never would go, and now the marriage after 26 years is busted. I live with my son, who just can't get over the hump. He is developing a throat clearing tic and he messes with his eye so much that it gets infected at times. (another anxiety issue)

People, no matter how much they want to care and understand, have not a clue. Its a sucky life, but way worse for him than me. I am limited in how much I can be away from him. Concerts are one way for me to self-care. But going (especially out of town - and I save that for very special shows, DT and JP pretty much) requires an enormous amount of work ahead of time, and I have to try to find someone to stay with or check on him.

That is all very heartbreaking to read. I have a 21 y/o son with not depression issues, but he is autistic with challenges that come from that. It's too bad your husband couldn't get on board with the proper care for his son. As a parent of a child with challenges, it's very disappointing to read that, and I feel bad that you're going this alone. I've always said, a child needs all the love and support they can get. It's one of the main issues I have with my parents as they have pretty much ignored my kids their whole life. A big loss for my son. Thankfully, my wife has a large family that loves him.

Anyway, I bolded the last paragraph because I don't go to many concerts either. My wife will not leave our son alone for the night (not all night, just concert hours night). I'm not going alone, that doesn't really work here, and I don't really have a concert buddy. I do pick the really important shows and we figure it out. Now, it involves my other son going with me, or him being home with his brother.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: geeeemo on September 07, 2022, 03:45:40 PM
I have a 21 year old son that has been battling depression, anxiety disorder for many years. He has been seeing psychiatrist and therapists since he was 9.  It was all going fairly well, but he had a very big breakdown when he was 16. He was an avid athlete and a baseball prospect. He quit baseball, and focused on basketball. Was recruited and had scholarships to play in college.
But then he needed ankle surgery. He found out right before he left.  He had had trouble before, but we all thought the summer rest and PT was going to do the trick.
Anyway he went to college for 2 days, realized he couldn't connect with the players on the team as they all met to run etc. He had the surgery, rehabbed, got re-recruited to a JC as he had lost confidence. Then covid and online school happened. And fires in the mountain town the college was in. All too much, and he begged to be put into a mental hospital and couldn't go to college. That was in 2020.

He was in outpatient for 5 weeks/30 hours per week at the mental hospital. No better. He has no friends, no way to feel better as sports was his way. He has learning disabilities, and is limited in things he can do.

I have been to every dr., therapist visit and my own therapist as well. One reason is to understand how to parent a child with MI differently. My husband never would go, and now the marriage after 26 years is busted. I live with my son, who just can't get over the hump. He is developing a throat clearing tic and he messes with his eye so much that it gets infected at times. (another anxiety issue)

People, no matter how much they want to care and understand, have not a clue. Its a sucky life, but way worse for him than me. I am limited in how much I can be away from him. Concerts are one way for me to self-care. But going (especially out of town - and I save that for very special shows, DT and JP pretty much) requires an enormous amount of work ahead of time, and I have to try to find someone to stay with or check on him.

That is all very heartbreaking to read. I have a 21 y/o son with not depression issues, but he is autistic with challenges that come from that. It's too bad your husband couldn't get on board with the proper care for his son. As a parent of a child with challenges, it's very disappointing to read that, and I feel bad that you're going this alone. I've always said, a child needs all the love and support they can get. It's one of the main issues I have with my parents as they have pretty much ignored my kids their whole life. A big loss for my son. Thankfully, my wife has a large family that loves him.

Anyway, I bolded the last paragraph because I don't go to many concerts either. My wife will not leave our son alone for the night (not all night, just concert hours night). I'm not going alone, that doesn't really work here, and I don't really have a concert buddy. I do pick the really important shows and we figure it out. Now, it involves my other son going with me, or him being home with his brother.


I went alone to DT in Oakland. It was actually fun! I got front row center because I was alone. I stayed away one night, and called my son after the show and he walked me to my car. (yikes in Oakland alone at night). I do the same though with my other son. He and I go (and bummer used to get my husband to go sometimes), or I can leave him with his brother. The hard part is when my son and I go together out of town. Reno doesn't get the shows that often I want to see! And when they do come here, I am all over it. For me, I can really let off a lot of steam at a rock concert. Helps me regroup.

You sound like a great dad btw! 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on September 07, 2022, 03:49:18 PM
Thank you and back atcha.

I've always said that my inner being gets a sort of reset when I go to a concert.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on September 07, 2022, 06:57:20 PM
Not sure where to put this but I needed somewhere to vent.

My wife went into the hospital on 7/26 with double pneumonia. She spent a week in the hospital and was discharged because she could breathe on her own without issue. A week later we were back in the ER. Pneumonia came raging back. She spent a week there and then got moved to a long-term acoute care hospital where she was for a week.

Yesterday we were back in the ER again. Her pneumonia is gone but her lungs are not working well. She is now at her worst since she got sick. They have her on a special breathing machine at the moment. She called not too long ago and she is having a slew of tests and procedures scheduled to try and figure out why her lungs are so bad.

I was rolling with it, but it's starting to really weigh me down emotionally right now. November will be 30 years that we have been together as a couple. I don't know anything else other than being with her. I just want this to be over and her to be home.

That's awful Peart.  We're all praying for a resolution for you soon, this must be hard to deal with for sure.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on September 07, 2022, 07:09:07 PM
So.....a new colleague started on Monday and essentially supposed to be my sidekick.  Spent 2 days with him, and er....he seems nice enough, around my age, partner but no kids, seems like his head is screwed on enough.  Came in for an hour yesterday and I was at another venue but he goes into my boss crying his eyes out that he had to go home.  He told her he suffers badly with mental illness and dpression............ :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:  I wasn't even a dick to him.  :lol

......errrr maybe not the job for you pal, and you can't be doing that when shit gets busy, sorry.

I'm not trivializing this here, just posting as it made me think of this thread, and I had a chuckle to myself.  The thing is, I've had my own issues this year and experiencing things I've never experienced before, so I don't have time for others, especially ones I don't know when I'm trying to look after myself for once in my life.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on September 07, 2022, 07:21:30 PM
I have a 21 year old son that has been battling depression, anxiety disorder for many years. He has been seeing psychiatrist and therapists since he was 9.  It was all going fairly well, but he had a very big breakdown when he was 16. He was an avid athlete and a baseball prospect. He quit baseball, and focused on basketball. Was recruited and had scholarships to play in college.
But then he needed ankle surgery. He found out right before he left.  He had had trouble before, but we all thought the summer rest and PT was going to do the trick.
Anyway he went to college for 2 days, realized he couldn't connect with the players on the team as they all met to run etc. He had the surgery, rehabbed, got re-recruited to a JC as he had lost confidence. Then covid and online school happened. And fires in the mountain town the college was in. All too much, and he begged to be put into a mental hospital and couldn't go to college. That was in 2020.

He was in outpatient for 5 weeks/30 hours per week at the mental hospital. No better. He has no friends, no way to feel better as sports was his way. He has learning disabilities, and is limited in things he can do.

I have been to every dr., therapist visit and my own therapist as well. One reason is to understand how to parent a child with MI differently. My husband never would go, and now the marriage after 26 years is busted. I live with my son, who just can't get over the hump. He is developing a throat clearing tic and he messes with his eye so much that it gets infected at times. (another anxiety issue)

People, no matter how much they want to care and understand, have not a clue. Its a sucky life, but way worse for him than me. I am limited in how much I can be away from him. Concerts are one way for me to self-care. But going (especially out of town - and I save that for very special shows, DT and JP pretty much) requires an enormous amount of work ahead of time, and I have to try to find someone to stay with or check on him.

I feel for all of you suffering. I hear you though, and am giving you all a hug.

This is heartbreaking to read.  All best to you and your son geeemo.  It's things like this that make me want to give myself an uppercut when I feel like shit.  I have no reason to, I envy people like you, so strong and amazing with real daily battles.  You sound like an amazing mother and person.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: geeeemo on September 07, 2022, 08:54:45 PM
I have a 21 year old son that has been battling depression, anxiety disorder for many years. He has been seeing psychiatrist and therapists since he was 9.  It was all going fairly well, but he had a very big breakdown when he was 16. He was an avid athlete and a baseball prospect. He quit baseball, and focused on basketball. Was recruited and had scholarships to play in college.
But then he needed ankle surgery. He found out right before he left.  He had had trouble before, but we all thought the summer rest and PT was going to do the trick.
Anyway he went to college for 2 days, realized he couldn't connect with the players on the team as they all met to run etc. He had the surgery, rehabbed, got re-recruited to a JC as he had lost confidence. Then covid and online school happened. And fires in the mountain town the college was in. All too much, and he begged to be put into a mental hospital and couldn't go to college. That was in 2020.

He was in outpatient for 5 weeks/30 hours per week at the mental hospital. No better. He has no friends, no way to feel better as sports was his way. He has learning disabilities, and is limited in things he can do.

I have been to every dr., therapist visit and my own therapist as well. One reason is to understand how to parent a child with MI differently. My husband never would go, and now the marriage after 26 years is busted. I live with my son, who just can't get over the hump. He is developing a throat clearing tic and he messes with his eye so much that it gets infected at times. (another anxiety issue)

People, no matter how much they want to care and understand, have not a clue. Its a sucky life, but way worse for him than me. I am limited in how much I can be away from him. Concerts are one way for me to self-care. But going (especially out of town - and I save that for very special shows, DT and JP pretty much) requires an enormous amount of work ahead of time, and I have to try to find someone to stay with or check on him.

I feel for all of you suffering. I hear you though, and am giving you all a hug.

This is heartbreaking to read.  All best to you and your son geeemo.  It's things like this that make me want to give myself an uppercut when I feel like shit.  I have no reason to, I envy people like you, so strong and amazing with real daily battles.  You sound like an amazing mother and person.

Don't be too hard on yourself. We all feel like shit at times and are just in different places in our lives. It took a long time for me to be nicer and more peaceful. Honestly, parenting helped me. And for me, God as well. I wouldn't trade it for anything.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Skeever on September 08, 2022, 06:45:33 AM
So I have at least two, maybe three people UNDER MY ROOF that are battling some level of depression (thankfully they are all getting help). I don't think I'm depressed per se - my therapist doesn't think so - but I'm in that group, in that it seems more of an uphill battle each day, and there seems to be more and more incentive to both drink and play PlayStation on any given day after work.   But this is an interesting conversation; where is the line and how do we balance that?  I don't know that I get any salvation from telling people "life's treating me like a baby treats a diaper, thanks!".    Isn't the "zero fucks given" sort of what we write about in some of the other threads?

None of this is meant to be insensitive; we're among friends here so it's different.

I'm with you. Drink beer and PlayStation is something I need, once a week or so. Maybe even a few days in a row. But once that becomes an everyday thing, it's evident that I'm just using those things as a crutch to not face something else. I'm depressed, but I do want to be here for awhile to come, and that means that sometimes not giving an F and just vegging out with some booze and a videogame is gonna set me back if that becomes a habit. The fight for me is a mix between making sure I give myself time to relax and recharge, but also, finding that thing to truly care about that I want to move forward for myself. This is in addition, by the way, to primarily roles of father, husband, employee, but more that "now that you've taken a few nights to just veg out, what are you going to do for yourself?" Whether that's exercise, play an instrument, learn something new, something else...
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on September 08, 2022, 08:46:51 AM
I have a 21 year old son that has been battling depression, anxiety disorder for many years. He has been seeing psychiatrist and therapists since he was 9.  It was all going fairly well, but he had a very big breakdown when he was 16. He was an avid athlete and a baseball prospect. He quit baseball, and focused on basketball. Was recruited and had scholarships to play in college.
But then he needed ankle surgery. He found out right before he left.  He had had trouble before, but we all thought the summer rest and PT was going to do the trick.
Anyway he went to college for 2 days, realized he couldn't connect with the players on the team as they all met to run etc. He had the surgery, rehabbed, got re-recruited to a JC as he had lost confidence. Then covid and online school happened. And fires in the mountain town the college was in. All too much, and he begged to be put into a mental hospital and couldn't go to college. That was in 2020.

He was in outpatient for 5 weeks/30 hours per week at the mental hospital. No better. He has no friends, no way to feel better as sports was his way. He has learning disabilities, and is limited in things he can do.

I have been to every dr., therapist visit and my own therapist as well. One reason is to understand how to parent a child with MI differently. My husband never would go, and now the marriage after 26 years is busted. I live with my son, who just can't get over the hump. He is developing a throat clearing tic and he messes with his eye so much that it gets infected at times. (another anxiety issue)

People, no matter how much they want to care and understand, have not a clue. Its a sucky life, but way worse for him than me. I am limited in how much I can be away from him. Concerts are one way for me to self-care. But going (especially out of town - and I save that for very special shows, DT and JP pretty much) requires an enormous amount of work ahead of time, and I have to try to find someone to stay with or check on him.

That is all very heartbreaking to read. I have a 21 y/o son with not depression issues, but he is autistic with challenges that come from that. It's too bad your husband couldn't get on board with the proper care for his son. As a parent of a child with challenges, it's very disappointing to read that, and I feel bad that you're going this alone. I've always said, a child needs all the love and support they can get. It's one of the main issues I have with my parents as they have pretty much ignored my kids their whole life. A big loss for my son. Thankfully, my wife has a large family that loves him.

Anyway, I bolded the last paragraph because I don't go to many concerts either. My wife will not leave our son alone for the night (not all night, just concert hours night). I'm not going alone, that doesn't really work here, and I don't really have a concert buddy. I do pick the really important shows and we figure it out. Now, it involves my other son going with me, or him being home with his brother.

In for this as well.  My son - well, I'm the stepdad - has autism and needs extra attention.  I've never wanted to punch someone as badly as I do my stepson's father.   He actually filed this past month to relinquish his parental responsibility, blaming my wife for "poisoning" the relationship.  Trust me he did that all on his own.  I have four kids and we were joking the other night about "which one is my favorite" and of course there isn't, but all four need different things at different times, and it's our job as parents to understand that and accept it.  I feel bad for those with kids that require extra care - I'm there too; we won't go away for more than an overnight because of my son - but I get angry that those in the "village" that don't recognize their role too.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on September 08, 2022, 05:17:59 PM
I have always thought that I'm pretty strong mentally, I do still think that.  I'm arrogant and can be a dick, I know that.  I always thought depression, mental illness and everything in between were things people used as excuses.  I do still think that of some unfortunately, as I'm cynical as fuck, but this year so far have had me experience things I haven't ever experienced before.  I am getting a greater understanding of some of these issues that plague humanity.  Seeing posts like Tom's that sparked the resurgence of this thread in a way breaks my heart but I get it.

Since my accident in Feb, a lot has changed.  I internally struggle with still being able to wake up everyday fit and healthy.  I beat myself up everyday as I should be jumping for joy that I won the lottery in life, I really did, and have been told over and over.  I'm a quiet person who doesn't like the spotlight, so it's hard to be the focal point of things, especially like this, I hate it.  I feel some days I don't deserve the second chance I got.  People with families and kids that die and don't get the second chances should have gotten what I got.  I know that's stupid but it's what I deal with.  Having said that, I have yet to take a day off work, I refuse to.  People can see I'm in a different place mentally and while things inside my head conflict every day, I haven't run away, I'm not sure why.

Some days I legit wish I was taken away that day.  Sometimes I feel death would be easier.  While I'm lucky with the outcome, some days I feel the lucky ones are actually the ones taken away in these sorts of scenarios.  Again, I torture myself over these thoughts.  It makes me wonder the whole meaning of life debate.  From my experience and how close I've come, it's hard to see and find what the meaning to life might be.  Nothing is certain in life and everyone's outcome is the same, which is death.  The goal is to make the most of the time we have here, but it's hard.  I feel week and pathetic after some of the struggles that have been posted right above for instance, because I have none of these, nowhere even close.  But, as silly as it sounds, how close to death I've seen and came, it's nothing to fear and accepting it in the moment, I can't shake from my head, and it's scary to know I was happily prepared to die in that second.  This is a mindset currently I don't wish on anyone.  Luckily, I do carry on and function, because what I think some days would torture a lot of people and shows after 38 years, some vulnerability I've never had before, so I take that as a positive and a part of learning and growing. 

As everyday goes on, this acceptance of what should have happened sits with me more and more.  it's pretty fucked, but using it to be stronger is the key, not let it affect me long term.  Have people said I'm going into depression?  Yes, they have.  Are people worried about my mental health?  Yes, they are.  Am I worried about these things?  A little, but I'm okay.  I just remember I can go for a run and listen to Iron Maiden, so what's not to be happy about.  Does that still fill the void and end the things going through my head?  No, but it's something to help alleviate things, just a little bit.  These little things are what you hold onto to make it worthwhile.  The meaning of life is those little things we have and can do to hold onto to help us through each fucking day of what sometimes is hell on earth. 

Don't get me wrong, I'm grateful, it makes me stress less about everything in life and I'm making use of still being fully fit.  I want to run an ultra marathon, because I can.  I shouldn't be able to, but it's something I'm working towards.  But, I guess I don't give two fucks now, I have nothing to lose, but in life, no one has anything to lose, but that also brings other issues.  While it's great on a day to day basis with the stresses of life, it goes the other way and decreases motivation.  It's a fine balancing act which adds to the daily struggles of life. 

I don't know where I'm going with this as it's hard to put things into words but I just wanted to put some things down to relate to you lads in here struggling.  The struggles are real, I'm leaning that.  But, I feel at times in life we need to get to these lowest points to bring ourselves back up.  We need to know our limitations from both ends of the spectrum.  I feel getting past these points of feeling like we're in the depths of hell in life is hard but might help fight the negativity of bad thoughts to try and come out of the other side.  I'm working on my issues.  I wish I didn't have them.  Do I feel weak for having struggles after my year?  Yeah, 100%, another thing I beat myself up over daily, that's why I'm contempt that I'll never be the same, but using it as a challenge to deal with the issues and emotions.

All of us struggling have the ability to work through and keep demons at bay.  One day at a time, that mindset is helping me at the moment.  It's not a quick process to overcome things and nor should it be.  I was struggling and beat myself up more each day because I wasn't 'over it.'  Take all the pressure off yourselves.  Focus on yourselves and what you want in life.  That's funny for me to say because I've never known what I've wanted from life, I'm still figuring it out at 38, but those little things, that's what it's about for me at the moment.  Everyone look after yourselves and enjoy the little things each day.  We need to stop putting pressure on ourselves to be what others expect us to be, I'm learning that.  Sometimes being down is what we need to be happy.  We need these times to recharge and find what we may be looking for. 

Hope is a wonderful thing and take comfort that our darkest days and hours can make us stronger in the long run and bring the brightest days, eventually.  Allow and accept the hard times but take each day as it comes and never lose the hope that it will turn around.  Tell yourself you're strong enough to move past it also.  Don't let the demons win.  I'm far from perfect, but it's helped me through the last 7 months.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: KevShmev on September 08, 2022, 05:41:59 PM
I really wish this forum had a like button, because I read so many posts in a thread like this where I'd rush to hit the like button, but often do not have anything to add, so I say nothing.  Point being, a lot of good stuff here, and it's good to see so many willing to share.

And I will assume I would have gotten many likes for this post.

INB4 Tim asks what a "like" is. :P
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on September 08, 2022, 06:22:42 PM
Kade, that's an amazing post.

Kev, on the other hand... ;D
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on September 08, 2022, 06:33:58 PM
Kade, that's an amazing post.

Kev, on the other hand... ;D

Haha, thanks brother.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on September 08, 2022, 06:46:58 PM
The other thing I want to add is that I beat myself up daily for allowing myself to use my accident as an excuse.  I get scolded from my misses about it considering what happened but it's true.  I feel, even in darkest times, let things sink in and take time to deal with them but remember there's always someone worse off.  Try your hardest to see if issues you are facing can somehow be put aside, even for a little bit.  I've let it wallow which for me is disappointing.

I think the longer things manifest, the more it can become an excuse to allow you to continue to be down.  I've never spoken to any shrink or gotten professional help, I refuse to but if my words offend anyone that actually have had depression issues diagnosed please feel free to comment.  Everyone is different I guess.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: KevShmev on September 08, 2022, 07:57:09 PM
Kade, that's an amazing post.

Kev, on the other hand... ;D

Where's the dislike button? :P
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on September 08, 2022, 08:00:30 PM
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Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on September 08, 2022, 08:23:30 PM
Kade, I'm glad you're around to share your pain. My shoulder is here for you. Love you man.  Tomorrow,  wake up knowing this fat ass is hugging you.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on September 08, 2022, 08:27:50 PM
Tomorrow,  wake up knowing this fat ass is hugging you.

Dude, we're trying to cheer him up, man. :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on September 08, 2022, 08:29:58 PM
 :lol

I'm a teddy bear mother fucker! :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ProfessorPeart on September 08, 2022, 08:30:34 PM
Not sure where to put this but I needed somewhere to vent.

My wife went into the hospital on 7/26 with double pneumonia. She spent a week in the hospital and was discharged because she could breathe on her own without issue. A week later we were back in the ER. Pneumonia came raging back. She spent a week there and then got moved to a long-term acute care hospital where she was for a week.

Yesterday we were back in the ER again. Her pneumonia is gone but her lungs are not working well. She is now at her worst since she got sick. They have her on a special breathing machine at the moment. She called not too long ago and she is having a slew of tests and procedures scheduled to try and figure out why her lungs are so bad.

I was rolling with it, but it's starting to really weigh me down emotionally right now. November will be 30 years that we have been together as a couple. I don't know anything else other than being with her. I just want this to be over and her to be home.

Today has sucked. All tests that would've shown a clot came up empty. I kinda wish they had found one because what they are talking about now is way worse. They are thinking she has interstitial lung disease, for which there is no cure. Essentially, they think her lungs have started to scar, which is permanent. She needs a special biopsy to confirm but the hospital she is in now does not do that. It is part of the system I work for and they want to transport her into Chicago to our main hospital to do the procedure there. She is not even stable enough at the moment to get the procedure so we are not even sure when this is going to happen.

If this is confirmed, she is possibly looking at a life of oxygen, steroids and immunosuppressants for the rest of her life with the worst case being eventual lung transplant.

After she called me and gave me the news, I shut off my work laptop and just left for the hospital. Didn't tell anyone I was leaving. Just messaged my bosses a few minutes ago and told them I can't work tomorrow. They both responded and said that taking time off was a good idea. It's also my son's birthday and now we are trying to figure out how to have a gathering at the hospital instead of our house.

I'm just at a loss right now.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on September 08, 2022, 08:31:59 PM
Fuck.  I'm so sorry. That is horrible. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on September 08, 2022, 08:34:52 PM
Wow, man. That's fucking awful. Let's pray the worst case scenario doesn't play out. Hopefully the tests in Chicago prove to be something more manageable.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on September 08, 2022, 09:09:41 PM
The other thing I want to add is that I beat myself up daily for allowing myself to use my accident as an excuse.  I get scolded from my misses about it considering what happened but it's true.  I feel, even in darkest times, let things sink in and take time to deal with them but remember there's always someone worse off.  Try your hardest to see if issues you are facing can somehow be put aside, even for a little bit.  I've let it wallow which for me is disappointing.

I think the longer things manifest, the more it can become an excuse to allow you to continue to be down.  I've never spoken to any shrink or gotten professional help, I refuse to but if my words offend anyone that actually have had depression issues diagnosed please feel free to comment.  Everyone is different I guess.

I read both parts of this. Bottom line, mental illness is the "invisible monster" as I have suffered my entire life, its VERY real but it has made me a kinder and more compassionate person. I navigate through crippling anxiety and debilitating panic attacks every day since I was 15. 2 of my 3 boys suffer as well. Bottom line, I stopped overthinking and giving a crap what others think because it doesn't serve me. I don't think about yesterday or tomorrow and that helps me immensely. I finally got to a point where I do not react angrily or aggressively to any bad situation. I stop, breathe, and respond calmly. Great post Kade. I'm here to speak ANYTIME if you ever need to. I mean that.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: KevShmev on September 08, 2022, 09:18:18 PM
ProfessorPeart, very sorry to hear that.  That hits really close to home for me, as my mom had interstitial lung disease.  I won't get into details (and I don't have the heart to do so at the moment), but I will keep you and your family in my thoughts.

Thoughts are with others in this thread as well (hard to reply and address every bad situation...life is not easy right now for many of us).
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on September 08, 2022, 09:22:08 PM
The other thing I want to add is that I beat myself up daily for allowing myself to use my accident as an excuse.  I get scolded from my misses about it considering what happened but it's true.  I feel, even in darkest times, let things sink in and take time to deal with them but remember there's always someone worse off.  Try your hardest to see if issues you are facing can somehow be put aside, even for a little bit.  I've let it wallow which for me is disappointing.

I think the longer things manifest, the more it can become an excuse to allow you to continue to be down.  I've never spoken to any shrink or gotten professional help, I refuse to but if my words offend anyone that actually have had depression issues diagnosed please feel free to comment.  Everyone is different I guess.

I read both parts of this. Bottom line, mental illness is the "invisible monster" as I have suffered my entire life, its VERY real but it has made me a kinder and more compassionate person. I navigate through crippling anxiety and debilitating panic attacks every day since I was 15. 2 of my 3 boys suffer as well. Bottom line, I stopped overthinking and giving a crap what others think because it doesn't serve me. I don't think about yesterday or tomorrow and that helps me immensely. I finally got to a point where I do not react angrily or aggressively to any bad situation. I stop, breathe, and respond calmly. Great post Kade. I'm here to speak ANYTIME if you ever need to. I mean that.

Thanks Tom, same to you mate.  Not thinking about yesterday or tomorrow us a great piece of advice.  Something I adopt for work struggles and made things much easier to deal with.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on September 08, 2022, 09:24:30 PM
Peart, I'm so sorry.  I don't pray but will say a prayer for you guys.  Fingers crossed the worst case scenario doesn't play out.  Couldn't imagine what you're going through.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on September 08, 2022, 09:42:08 PM
Kade, I'm glad you're around to share your pain. My shoulder is here for you. Love you man.  Tomorrow,  wake up knowing this fat ass is hugging you.

Haha, thanks Joe.  :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on September 09, 2022, 06:37:23 AM
Wow, man. That's fucking awful. Let's pray the worst case scenario doesn't play out. Hopefully the tests in Chicago prove to be something more manageable.

Exactly what I was thinking, and am hoping for.  I can't even begin to imagine what your family is going thru
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on September 09, 2022, 07:24:02 AM
Not sure where to put this but I needed somewhere to vent.

My wife went into the hospital on 7/26 with double pneumonia. She spent a week in the hospital and was discharged because she could breathe on her own without issue. A week later we were back in the ER. Pneumonia came raging back. She spent a week there and then got moved to a long-term acute care hospital where she was for a week.

Yesterday we were back in the ER again. Her pneumonia is gone but her lungs are not working well. She is now at her worst since she got sick. They have her on a special breathing machine at the moment. She called not too long ago and she is having a slew of tests and procedures scheduled to try and figure out why her lungs are so bad.

I was rolling with it, but it's starting to really weigh me down emotionally right now. November will be 30 years that we have been together as a couple. I don't know anything else other than being with her. I just want this to be over and her to be home.

Today has sucked. All tests that would've shown a clot came up empty. I kinda wish they had found one because what they are talking about now is way worse. They are thinking she has interstitial lung disease, for which there is no cure. Essentially, they think her lungs have started to scar, which is permanent. She needs a special biopsy to confirm but the hospital she is in now does not do that. It is part of the system I work for and they want to transport her into Chicago to our main hospital to do the procedure there. She is not even stable enough at the moment to get the procedure so we are not even sure when this is going to happen.

If this is confirmed, she is possibly looking at a life of oxygen, steroids and immunosuppressants for the rest of her life with the worst case being eventual lung transplant.

After she called me and gave me the news, I shut off my work laptop and just left for the hospital. Didn't tell anyone I was leaving. Just messaged my bosses a few minutes ago and told them I can't work tomorrow. They both responded and said that taking time off was a good idea. It's also my son's birthday and now we are trying to figure out how to have a gathering at the hospital instead of our house.

I'm just at a loss right now.

I'll be thinking about you and even if it's not your thing, I'll be saying a prayer for you and your family. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dublagent66 on September 09, 2022, 01:04:13 PM
I keep meaning to post something here but not sure where to start.  I will though.

Dublagent, can I ask what's lead you to live like you have the last year and have you always been that way?   I get what you mean though and for me it's just work and home at the moment.  But I've always kinda been like that.

Sorry man, just saw your post.  Yes, I’ve pretty much always been that way.  Never married.  No kids.  Been in lots of relationships, but none lasting more than 5 years.  This last year has been more about saving money for my retirement goal in 4 years.  Plus, these days, I just don’t feel like being around a lot people.  Concerts have pretty much come to a stop.  Working from home 3 days a week.  It all just makes sense to chill out and try to weather this economic storm.

However, for me it’s mostly a personality thing.  This is gonna make you laugh, but long ago as a kid one time, my mom sent me to my room for whatever I did.  3 hours later I’m still playing in my room.  I think I’ve always been able to be happy on my own for the most part.  I do like going out with friends once in a while, but not so much lately.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on September 11, 2022, 01:15:26 PM
Man I’ve been having a rough time these past few weeks. Apparently I have some unresolved trauma from my past that’s coming back.

As a writers assistant for Nick Cannon’s Wild N Out, my girlfriend has to travel for work sometimes. She left for Atlanta for this season on August 24th and she’s coming back on September 24th. I was supposed to go visit her for Labor Day weekend, but earlier in the week she told me not to come because she needed time to herself as that weekend would be her first days off since she got there. My mind tends to escalate things, and I’ve been on a bit of a spiral since then. She’s never given me any reason not to trust her, but I have severe trust issues from my dad’s infidelity and my parents’ subsequent divorce along with my ex-girlfriend and her repeated cheating throughout our nearly eight year relationship, and my mind is assuming the worst. I can’t bring it up to my girlfriend as it would really hurt her because she’s been nothing but great to me, and I know deep down that I can trust her, but my crippling self-doubt has been destroying me for the past couple of weeks to the point that I’ve been feeling physically ill. I don’t know what to do, and part of me feels like I deserve it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on September 11, 2022, 01:20:01 PM
I was supposed to go visit her for Labor Day weekend, but earlier in the week she told me not to come because she needed time to herself as that weekend would be her first days off since she got there.

That's a red flag, brother. It shouldn't be looked any other way. And it's ok for you to question it because it's well....questionable. You don't have to consider your parents and ex-girlfriend. None of that matters to what will happen in a future relationship, good or bad.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cool Chris on September 11, 2022, 01:23:31 PM
I was on board with everything until you got to the "deserve" part. Did you mean you deserve to be cheated on, or deserve to feel sick about the situation?

To everyone struggling right now, ProfessorPeart, Tempus, and anyone else, my heart is with you all, my friends.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on September 11, 2022, 01:24:00 PM
I was supposed to go visit her for Labor Day weekend, but earlier in the week she told me not to come because she needed time to herself as that weekend would be her first days off since she got there.

That's a red flag, brother. It shouldn't be looked any other way. And it's ok for you to question it because it's well....questionable. You don't have to consider your parents and ex-girlfriend. None of that matters to what will happen in a future relationship, good or bad.

How do I even approach her about this?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on September 11, 2022, 01:29:09 PM
I was supposed to go visit her for Labor Day weekend, but earlier in the week she told me not to come because she needed time to herself as that weekend would be her first days off since she got there.

That's a red flag, brother. It shouldn't be looked any other way. And it's ok for you to question it because it's well....questionable. You don't have to consider your parents and ex-girlfriend. None of that matters to what will happen in a future relationship, good or bad.

How do I even approach her about this?

Honestly.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on September 11, 2022, 04:50:54 PM
I keep meaning to post something here but not sure where to start.  I will though.

Dublagent, can I ask what's lead you to live like you have the last year and have you always been that way?   I get what you mean though and for me it's just work and home at the moment.  But I've always kinda been like that.

Sorry man, just saw your post.  Yes, I’ve pretty much always been that way.  Never married.  No kids.  Been in lots of relationships, but none lasting more than 5 years.  This last year has been more about saving money for my retirement goal in 4 years.  Plus, these days, I just don’t feel like being around a lot people.  Concerts have pretty much come to a stop.  Working from home 3 days a week.  It all just makes sense to chill out and try to weather this economic storm.

However, for me it’s mostly a personality thing.  This is gonna make you laugh, but long ago as a kid one time, my mom sent me to my room for whatever I did.  3 hours later I’m still playing in my room.  I think I’ve always been able to be happy on my own for the most part.  I do like going out with friends once in a while, but not so much lately.

Thanks for the sharing your thoughts there mate.  I figured as much, I can mostly relate.  That doesn't make me laugh though.  I was kind of the same.  Wanted a hobby, picked up the guitar and rarely came out again.  As I get older too, I prefer my own company, with the misses of course.  But even we like time apart and do our own things differently.  I don't try and get away from her to go out 'with the boys,' I get away to have my own time.

My wanting and needing for friends has just gone downhill.  I always thought it was crazy I never really wanted many friends and go out and be social as I was getting older but the older I get, the more comfortable I am with not needing that.  We live this life alone essentially and I realised you need to do things for yourself.  So these days while others are out socializing and whatnot, I'll be out there running, improving my guitar skills or just having time out.  I want to improve myself, not waste time on people who don't really give a fuck about me.

Choosing this place is better anyway, there's more people here that give a fuck about me than people in real life, so I'm blessed and happy with that.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on September 11, 2022, 04:52:33 PM
Man I’ve been having a rough time these past few weeks. Apparently I have some unresolved trauma from my past that’s coming back.

As a writers assistant for Nick Cannon’s Wild N Out, my girlfriend has to travel for work sometimes. She left for Atlanta for this season on August 24th and she’s coming back on September 24th. I was supposed to go visit her for Labor Day weekend, but earlier in the week she told me not to come because she needed time to herself as that weekend would be her first days off since she got there. My mind tends to escalate things, and I’ve been on a bit of a spiral since then. She’s never given me any reason not to trust her, but I have severe trust issues from my dad’s infidelity and my parents’ subsequent divorce along with my ex-girlfriend and her repeated cheating throughout our nearly eight year relationship, and my mind is assuming the worst. I can’t bring it up to my girlfriend as it would really hurt her because she’s been nothing but great to me, and I know deep down that I can trust her, but my crippling self-doubt has been destroying me for the past couple of weeks to the point that I’ve been feeling physically ill. I don’t know what to do, and part of me feels like I deserve it.

How long have you guys been together?

Tim is kinda right, that's a bit of a red flag mate.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cool Chris on September 11, 2022, 05:56:24 PM
It might be a red flag, it might be nothing. The problem is you can't know which it is without discussing it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on September 12, 2022, 10:05:57 AM
Man I’ve been having a rough time these past few weeks. Apparently I have some unresolved trauma from my past that’s coming back.

As a writers assistant for Nick Cannon’s Wild N Out, my girlfriend has to travel for work sometimes. She left for Atlanta for this season on August 24th and she’s coming back on September 24th. I was supposed to go visit her for Labor Day weekend, but earlier in the week she told me not to come because she needed time to herself as that weekend would be her first days off since she got there. My mind tends to escalate things, and I’ve been on a bit of a spiral since then. She’s never given me any reason not to trust her, but I have severe trust issues from my dad’s infidelity and my parents’ subsequent divorce along with my ex-girlfriend and her repeated cheating throughout our nearly eight year relationship, and my mind is assuming the worst. I can’t bring it up to my girlfriend as it would really hurt her because she’s been nothing but great to me, and I know deep down that I can trust her, but my crippling self-doubt has been destroying me for the past couple of weeks to the point that I’ve been feeling physically ill. I don’t know what to do, and part of me feels like I deserve it.

How long have you guys been together?

Tim is kinda right, that's a bit of a red flag mate.

We’ve been together for three and a half years. We spoke last night and even then she was working on her day off (she sent me a picture of what she was working on). She’s barely spoken to her family while she’s down there, which is an entirely different issue that I want to talk to her about when she gets back because I’m worried she’s getting lost in her work and losing sight of those important to her, but we talked things out.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Skeever on September 12, 2022, 10:44:50 AM
I've really felt down the last few days. Just kind of have that feeling like my life is over, if I were to die tomorrow, it'd suck for my wife/kid, but also, not so much for me, I'd just feel bad about how much work my wife is being left with to do on her own.

Feels very shameful to say, especially when you have people in this very thread who are grappling with their own mortality in a way very more present than I am. But it's a really hard feeling to shake, like my own life is just one task after the next.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on September 12, 2022, 12:39:25 PM
I've really felt down the last few days. Just kind of have that feeling like my life is over, if I were to die tomorrow, it'd suck for my wife/kid, but also, not so much for me, I'd just feel bad about how much work my wife is being left with to do on her own.

Feels very shameful to say, especially when you have people in this very thread who are grappling with their own mortality in a way very more present than I am. But it's a really hard feeling to shake, like my own life is just one task after the next.

I’m sorry to hear that you’re feeling this way. I think we’ve all been there. There’s a lot of things people could recommend, be it therapy or medication, but I would try something different.

Once a month, try to do something that you’ve never done before but has always interested you. It could break up the monotony in life and give you a monthly adventure to look forward to.

Also, never feel guilty about your feelings. I always quantify it with physical injuries since they’re easier to rationalize visually. If you break your ankle, and someone else breaks their femur, sure, maybe the femur is a more gruesome injury, but that doesn’t mean your ankle suddenly isn’t broken. Just because someone theoretically has it worse than you doesn’t mean you’re not allowed to feel your pain. Empathy for others is great, but have some empathy for yourself as well.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dublagent66 on September 12, 2022, 04:25:48 PM
I keep meaning to post something here but not sure where to start.  I will though.

Dublagent, can I ask what's lead you to live like you have the last year and have you always been that way?   I get what you mean though and for me it's just work and home at the moment.  But I've always kinda been like that.

Sorry man, just saw your post.  Yes, I’ve pretty much always been that way.  Never married.  No kids.  Been in lots of relationships, but none lasting more than 5 years.  This last year has been more about saving money for my retirement goal in 4 years.  Plus, these days, I just don’t feel like being around a lot people.  Concerts have pretty much come to a stop.  Working from home 3 days a week.  It all just makes sense to chill out and try to weather this economic storm.

However, for me it’s mostly a personality thing.  This is gonna make you laugh, but long ago as a kid one time, my mom sent me to my room for whatever I did.  3 hours later I’m still playing in my room.  I think I’ve always been able to be happy on my own for the most part.  I do like going out with friends once in a while, but not so much lately.

Thanks for the sharing your thoughts there mate.  I figured as much, I can mostly relate.  That doesn't make me laugh though.  I was kind of the same.  Wanted a hobby, picked up the guitar and rarely came out again.  As I get older too, I prefer my own company, with the misses of course.  But even we like time apart and do our own things differently.  I don't try and get away from her to go out 'with the boys,' I get away to have my own time.

My wanting and needing for friends has just gone downhill.  I always thought it was crazy I never really wanted many friends and go out and be social as I was getting older but the older I get, the more comfortable I am with not needing that.  We live this life alone essentially and I realised you need to do things for yourself.  So these days while others are out socializing and whatnot, I'll be out there running, improving my guitar skills or just having time out.  I want to improve myself, not waste time on people who don't really give a fuck about me.

Choosing this place is better anyway, there's more people here that give a fuck about me than people in real life, so I'm blessed and happy with that.

That's understandable.  I think aging has quite a bit to do with it too, but some people just have the right personality to be constantly on the go and always in a socializing mood.  I say do whatever makes you happy bro!  :tup
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on September 12, 2022, 04:42:39 PM
I keep meaning to post something here but not sure where to start.  I will though.

Dublagent, can I ask what's lead you to live like you have the last year and have you always been that way?   I get what you mean though and for me it's just work and home at the moment.  But I've always kinda been like that.

Sorry man, just saw your post.  Yes, I’ve pretty much always been that way.  Never married.  No kids.  Been in lots of relationships, but none lasting more than 5 years.  This last year has been more about saving money for my retirement goal in 4 years.  Plus, these days, I just don’t feel like being around a lot people.  Concerts have pretty much come to a stop.  Working from home 3 days a week.  It all just makes sense to chill out and try to weather this economic storm.

However, for me it’s mostly a personality thing.  This is gonna make you laugh, but long ago as a kid one time, my mom sent me to my room for whatever I did.  3 hours later I’m still playing in my room.  I think I’ve always been able to be happy on my own for the most part.  I do like going out with friends once in a while, but not so much lately.

Thanks for the sharing your thoughts there mate.  I figured as much, I can mostly relate.  That doesn't make me laugh though.  I was kind of the same.  Wanted a hobby, picked up the guitar and rarely came out again.  As I get older too, I prefer my own company, with the misses of course.  But even we like time apart and do our own things differently.  I don't try and get away from her to go out 'with the boys,' I get away to have my own time.

My wanting and needing for friends has just gone downhill.  I always thought it was crazy I never really wanted many friends and go out and be social as I was getting older but the older I get, the more comfortable I am with not needing that.  We live this life alone essentially and I realised you need to do things for yourself.  So these days while others are out socializing and whatnot, I'll be out there running, improving my guitar skills or just having time out.  I want to improve myself, not waste time on people who don't really give a fuck about me.

Choosing this place is better anyway, there's more people here that give a fuck about me than people in real life, so I'm blessed and happy with that.

That's understandable.  I think aging has quite a bit to do with it too, but some people just have the right personality to be constantly on the go and always in a socializing mood. I say do whatever makes you happy bro! :tup

Same to you mate.  That's a simple yet wonderful piece of advice.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on September 12, 2022, 04:48:41 PM
Man I’ve been having a rough time these past few weeks. Apparently I have some unresolved trauma from my past that’s coming back.

As a writers assistant for Nick Cannon’s Wild N Out, my girlfriend has to travel for work sometimes. She left for Atlanta for this season on August 24th and she’s coming back on September 24th. I was supposed to go visit her for Labor Day weekend, but earlier in the week she told me not to come because she needed time to herself as that weekend would be her first days off since she got there. My mind tends to escalate things, and I’ve been on a bit of a spiral since then. She’s never given me any reason not to trust her, but I have severe trust issues from my dad’s infidelity and my parents’ subsequent divorce along with my ex-girlfriend and her repeated cheating throughout our nearly eight year relationship, and my mind is assuming the worst. I can’t bring it up to my girlfriend as it would really hurt her because she’s been nothing but great to me, and I know deep down that I can trust her, but my crippling self-doubt has been destroying me for the past couple of weeks to the point that I’ve been feeling physically ill. I don’t know what to do, and part of me feels like I deserve it.

How long have you guys been together?

Tim is kinda right, that's a bit of a red flag mate.

We’ve been together for three and a half years. We spoke last night and even then she was working on her day off (she sent me a picture of what she was working on). She’s barely spoken to her family while she’s down there, which is an entirely different issue that I want to talk to her about when she gets back because I’m worried she’s getting lost in her work and losing sight of those important to her, but we talked things out.

Ah, fair enough then mate, nice on speaking to her right away instead of letting it bubble away.  I've been on the end where the misses was getting fed up with work taking so much of my time.  A conversation or two definitely can easily resolve some things.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on September 12, 2022, 04:49:32 PM
I've really felt down the last few days. Just kind of have that feeling like my life is over, if I were to die tomorrow, it'd suck for my wife/kid, but also, not so much for me, I'd just feel bad about how much work my wife is being left with to do on her own.

Feels very shameful to say, especially when you have people in this very thread who are grappling with their own mortality in a way very more present than I am. But it's a really hard feeling to shake, like my own life is just one task after the next.

Your wife and child don't give you something you want to live for?  Genuine question.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Skeever on September 12, 2022, 06:33:35 PM
I've really felt down the last few days. Just kind of have that feeling like my life is over, if I were to die tomorrow, it'd suck for my wife/kid, but also, not so much for me, I'd just feel bad about how much work my wife is being left with to do on her own.

Feels very shameful to say, especially when you have people in this very thread who are grappling with their own mortality in a way very more present than I am. But it's a really hard feeling to shake, like my own life is just one task after the next.

Your wife and child don't give you something you want to live for?  Genuine question.

Oh they give me something to live for. But just because you get married and become a parent doesn't mean that you automatically feel 100% fulfilled in life. It's hard work- the hardest job I've ever had. I envy guys who can just be 100% into their wife and kids and have no personal aspirations outside the family. But also, I've met exactly 0 of them. Kids grow up, women also have aspirations outside of you, pouring everything into that and not working toward any sense of self fulfillment beyond the family seems like a recipe for some codependent issues to me
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on September 12, 2022, 06:39:23 PM
I've really felt down the last few days. Just kind of have that feeling like my life is over, if I were to die tomorrow, it'd suck for my wife/kid, but also, not so much for me, I'd just feel bad about how much work my wife is being left with to do on her own.

Feels very shameful to say, especially when you have people in this very thread who are grappling with their own mortality in a way very more present than I am. But it's a really hard feeling to shake, like my own life is just one task after the next.

Your wife and child don't give you something you want to live for?  Genuine question.

Oh they give me something to live for. But just because you get married and become a parent doesn't mean that you automatically feel 100% fulfilled in life. It's hard work- the hardest job I've ever had. I envy guys who can just be 100% into their wife and kids and have no personal aspirations outside the family. But also, I've met exactly 0 of them. Kids grow up, women also have aspirations outside of you, pouring everything into that and not working toward any sense of self fulfillment beyond the family seems like a recipe for some codependent issues to me

Again, an honest question...what kind of aspirations do you have? Curing cancer? Climbing Mt Everest? yeah, those aren't getting met.

A hobby? Job satisfaction? DTFing? Listening to music? These are all things that provide enjoyment to my day that I do for myself. Is there nothing that you can do or think of that makes YOU smile during the day?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on September 12, 2022, 06:46:42 PM
I've really felt down the last few days. Just kind of have that feeling like my life is over, if I were to die tomorrow, it'd suck for my wife/kid, but also, not so much for me, I'd just feel bad about how much work my wife is being left with to do on her own.

Feels very shameful to say, especially when you have people in this very thread who are grappling with their own mortality in a way very more present than I am. But it's a really hard feeling to shake, like my own life is just one task after the next.

Your wife and child don't give you something you want to live for?  Genuine question.

Oh they give me something to live for. But just because you get married and become a parent doesn't mean that you automatically feel 100% fulfilled in life. It's hard work- the hardest job I've ever had. I envy guys who can just be 100% into their wife and kids and have no personal aspirations outside the family. But also, I've met exactly 0 of them. Kids grow up, women also have aspirations outside of you, pouring everything into that and not working toward any sense of self fulfillment beyond the family seems like a recipe for some codependent issues to me

Oh fuck, thanks, I'll definitely steer clear then.  :lol

What you say makes sense so I guess you need to find something solely for yourself to focus on.  Easier said than done, I know.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Skeever on September 12, 2022, 06:47:23 PM
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A hobby? Job satisfaction? DTFing? Listening to music? These are all things that provide enjoyment to my day that I do for myself. Is there nothing that you can do or think of that makes YOU smile during the day?

Well, please keep in mind I was just venting, I'm working through all of this stuff with professional help and I don't need the form to bail me out or fix it for me. But to answer your question, there are many days where I cant find enjoyment in a single thing because all the other anxieties and pressures of home and work take up every bit of mental energy I have. It could be something very simple, like a broken appliance, but I just can't let it go and relax even if I've done all I can do at the moment.

My wife and I talk about this quite a bit and I am actively looking for some kind of hobby or thing I can do outside to have a break and find some enjoyment but, as wolf said, easier said than done.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on September 12, 2022, 06:50:03 PM
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A hobby? Job satisfaction? DTFing? Listening to music? These are all things that provide enjoyment to my day that I do for myself. Is there nothing that you can do or think of that makes YOU smile during the day?

Well, please keep in mind I was just venting, I'm working through all of this stuff with professional help and I don't need the form to bail me out or fix it for me. But to answer your question, there are many days where I cant find enjoyment in a single thing because all the other anxieties and pressures of home and work take up every bit of mental energy I have. It could be something very simple, like a broken appliance, but I just can't let it go and relax even if I've done all I can do at the moment.

My wife and I talk about this quite a bit and I am actively looking for some kind of hobby or thing I can do outside to have a break and find some enjoyment but, as wolf said, easier said than done.

I get that, this year I've had heaps of days of days where nothing gives me pleasure, everything single fucking thing is a chore.  I just accept it, that's life in my eyes.  :lol

Can I ask, has getting professional help actually helped?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on September 12, 2022, 07:01:26 PM
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A hobby? Job satisfaction? DTFing? Listening to music? These are all things that provide enjoyment to my day that I do for myself. Is there nothing that you can do or think of that makes YOU smile during the day?

Well, please keep in mind I was just venting, I'm working through all of this stuff with professional help and I don't need the form to bail me out or fix it for me. But to answer your question, there are many days where I cant find enjoyment in a single thing because all the other anxieties and pressures of home and work take up every bit of mental energy I have. It could be something very simple, like a broken appliance, but I just can't let it go and relax even if I've done all I can do at the moment.

My wife and I talk about this quite a bit and I am actively looking for some kind of hobby or thing I can do outside to have a break and find some enjoyment but, as wolf said, easier said than done.

Of course. Sorry if I came across like a dick. A busted appliance, car problems, it is always something. It can get to you for sure.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Skeever on September 12, 2022, 07:11:15 PM
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A hobby? Job satisfaction? DTFing? Listening to music? These are all things that provide enjoyment to my day that I do for myself. Is there nothing that you can do or think of that makes YOU smile during the day?

Well, please keep in mind I was just venting, I'm working through all of this stuff with professional help and I don't need the form to bail me out or fix it for me. But to answer your question, there are many days where I cant find enjoyment in a single thing because all the other anxieties and pressures of home and work take up every bit of mental energy I have. It could be something very simple, like a broken appliance, but I just can't let it go and relax even if I've done all I can do at the moment.

My wife and I talk about this quite a bit and I am actively looking for some kind of hobby or thing I can do outside to have a break and find some enjoyment but, as wolf said, easier said than done.

I get that, this year I've had heaps of days of days where nothing gives me pleasure, everything single fucking thing is a chore.  I just accept it, that's life in my eyes.  :lol

Can I ask, has getting professional help actually helped?

I'd say yes, for sure. When I started I was experiencing anger issues like never before. Just getting mad all the time, lashing out, etc. Being someone I dont want to be. Professional help has helped identity the emotions and conflicts behind the anger and it's not really a problem anymore. The anxiety has been harder to manage though. There's a lot going on, and always at least a few unresolved issues to worry about.

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A hobby? Job satisfaction? DTFing? Listening to music? These are all things that provide enjoyment to my day that I do for myself. Is there nothing that you can do or think of that makes YOU smile during the day?

Well, please keep in mind I was just venting, I'm working through all of this stuff with professional help and I don't need the form to bail me out or fix it for me. But to answer your question, there are many days where I cant find enjoyment in a single thing because all the other anxieties and pressures of home and work take up every bit of mental energy I have. It could be something very simple, like a broken appliance, but I just can't let it go and relax even if I've done all I can do at the moment.

My wife and I talk about this quite a bit and I am actively looking for some kind of hobby or thing I can do outside to have a break and find some enjoyment but, as wolf said, easier said than done.

Of course. Sorry if I came across like a dick. A busted appliance, car problems, it is always something. It can get to you for sure.

Yep, totally. This week we've had an asthma attack, a busted toilet (our only one), a 4x higher than normal electric bill (still working that one), as well as awaiting some medical test results for myself. The kinda week that makes you wonder why even bother to have hobby or something.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on September 12, 2022, 07:13:04 PM
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A hobby? Job satisfaction? DTFing? Listening to music? These are all things that provide enjoyment to my day that I do for myself. Is there nothing that you can do or think of that makes YOU smile during the day?

Well, please keep in mind I was just venting, I'm working through all of this stuff with professional help and I don't need the form to bail me out or fix it for me. But to answer your question, there are many days where I cant find enjoyment in a single thing because all the other anxieties and pressures of home and work take up every bit of mental energy I have. It could be something very simple, like a broken appliance, but I just can't let it go and relax even if I've done all I can do at the moment.

My wife and I talk about this quite a bit and I am actively looking for some kind of hobby or thing I can do outside to have a break and find some enjoyment but, as wolf said, easier said than done.

Of course. Sorry if I came across like a dick. A busted appliance, car problems, it is always something. It can get to you for sure.

It does for sure.  However, reading some of these heartbreaking stories from some of the legends on here lately really sometimes needs to be put into perspective with your own issues.  That helps for sure, and while everyone handles things differently, personally it makes me realise how lucky I actually am.  It's hard to do sometimes when you're consumed with your own thoughts, but can be used to keep you level headed, for me anyway.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on September 12, 2022, 07:15:55 PM
Yep, totally. This week we've had an asthma attack, a busted toilet (our only one), a 4x higher than normal electric bill (still working that one), as well as awaiting some medical test results for myself. The kinda week that makes you wonder why even bother to have hobby or something.



It's actually the kind of week that makes you wonder why you don't have one.

All the best going forward, my man. Hope the medical tests work out. That's the most important thing.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on September 12, 2022, 07:18:30 PM
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A hobby? Job satisfaction? DTFing? Listening to music? These are all things that provide enjoyment to my day that I do for myself. Is there nothing that you can do or think of that makes YOU smile during the day?

Well, please keep in mind I was just venting, I'm working through all of this stuff with professional help and I don't need the form to bail me out or fix it for me. But to answer your question, there are many days where I cant find enjoyment in a single thing because all the other anxieties and pressures of home and work take up every bit of mental energy I have. It could be something very simple, like a broken appliance, but I just can't let it go and relax even if I've done all I can do at the moment.

My wife and I talk about this quite a bit and I am actively looking for some kind of hobby or thing I can do outside to have a break and find some enjoyment but, as wolf said, easier said than done.

I get that, this year I've had heaps of days of days where nothing gives me pleasure, everything single fucking thing is a chore.  I just accept it, that's life in my eyes.  :lol

Can I ask, has getting professional help actually helped?

I'd say yes, for sure. When I started I was experiencing anger issues like never before. Just getting mad all the time, lashing out, etc. Being someone I dont want to be. Professional help has helped identity the emotions and conflicts behind the anger and it's not really a problem anymore. The anxiety has been harder to manage though. There's a lot going on, and always at least a few unresolved issues to worry about.

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A hobby? Job satisfaction? DTFing? Listening to music? These are all things that provide enjoyment to my day that I do for myself. Is there nothing that you can do or think of that makes YOU smile during the day?

Well, please keep in mind I was just venting, I'm working through all of this stuff with professional help and I don't need the form to bail me out or fix it for me. But to answer your question, there are many days where I cant find enjoyment in a single thing because all the other anxieties and pressures of home and work take up every bit of mental energy I have. It could be something very simple, like a broken appliance, but I just can't let it go and relax even if I've done all I can do at the moment.

My wife and I talk about this quite a bit and I am actively looking for some kind of hobby or thing I can do outside to have a break and find some enjoyment but, as wolf said, easier said than done.

Of course. Sorry if I came across like a dick. A busted appliance, car problems, it is always something. It can get to you for sure.

Yep, totally. This week we've had an asthma attack, a busted toilet (our only one), a 4x higher than normal electric bill (still working that one), as well as awaiting some medical test results for myself. The kinda week that makes you wonder why even bother to have hobby or something.

Thanks for the response there Skeever.  I just feel funny about even entertaining the idea of professional help PERSONALLY.  I guess I know my emotions and why I am how I am and feel how I feel.  Ego issues, upbringings, parents, relationships with parents and siblings, when you look deep inside you can really realise where a lot of issues stem from, so I guess I feel I'm good enough at doing that than getting help.  I also am in constant denial and think I don't need it.......which, I don't.  :lol

Acceptance of a lot of things helps me too.  You can accept which makes sufferable things less sufferable but always allow and know within yourself you can change.  You have to want to though, I know that's hard for me.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on September 12, 2022, 07:19:39 PM
Yep, totally. This week we've had an asthma attack, a busted toilet (our only one), a 4x higher than normal electric bill (still working that one), as well as awaiting some medical test results for myself. The kinda week that makes you wonder why even bother to have hobby or something.



It's actually the kind of week that makes you wonder why you don't have one.

All the best going forward, my man. Hope the medical tests work out. That's the most important thing.

That's what stuck out to me and probably the root cause of your feelings Skeever.  Without knowing the specifics, the unknown there would definitely be the trigger.  Everything else just falls on top and makes you more annoyed, which is understandable.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Skeever on September 12, 2022, 07:31:11 PM
Thanks for the response there Skeever.  I just feel funny about even entertaining the idea of professional help PERSONALLY.  I guess I know my emotions and why I am how I am and feel how I feel.  Ego issues, upbringings, parents, relationships with parents and siblings, when you look deep inside you can really realise where a lot of issues stem from, so I guess I feel I'm good enough at doing that than getting help.  I also am in constant denial and think I don't need it.......which, I don't.  :lol

Acceptance of a lot of things helps me too.  You can accept which makes sufferable things less sufferable but always allow and know within yourself you can change.  You have to want to though, I know that's hard for me.

I feel like I know where you're coming from and I debated it myself for a long time. And I felt like I understood my emotions and my upbringing very well, and I would also occasionally read some books about emotions or psychology. But talk therapy has cut out a lot of the noise. It's like " yeah, you could teach yourself guitar on YouTube". But also, you could find a teacher who knows you very well, and giving you personalized advice. For me the breaking point was the anger, that was never part of who I was before, and thus a pretty clear sign that things had gotten out of my control.

Not sure where you're from, but care here is both scarce and expensive. It took months to find somebody who was both right for me and accepting my insurance. And a lot of times I would give up this search because I'd start feeling better on my own.  Then I'd go through a rough patch and have to start all over again.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on September 12, 2022, 07:36:54 PM
Thanks for the response there Skeever.  I just feel funny about even entertaining the idea of professional help PERSONALLY.  I guess I know my emotions and why I am how I am and feel how I feel.  Ego issues, upbringings, parents, relationships with parents and siblings, when you look deep inside you can really realise where a lot of issues stem from, so I guess I feel I'm good enough at doing that than getting help.  I also am in constant denial and think I don't need it.......which, I don't.  :lol

Acceptance of a lot of things helps me too.  You can accept which makes sufferable things less sufferable but always allow and know within yourself you can change.  You have to want to though, I know that's hard for me.

I feel like I know where you're coming from and I debated it myself for a long time. And I felt like I understood my emotions and my upbringing very well, and I would also occasionally read some books about emotions or psychology. But talk therapy has cut out a lot of the noise. It's like " yeah, you could teach yourself guitar on YouTube". But also, you could find a teacher who knows you very well, and giving you personalized advice. For me the breaking point was the anger, that was never part of who I was before, and thus a pretty clear sign that things had gotten out of my control.

Not sure where you're from, but care here is both scarce and expensive. It took months to find somebody who was both right for me and accepting my insurance. And a lot of times I would give up this search because I'd start feeling better on my own.  Then I'd go through a rough patch and have to start all over again.

I can relate to a lot of this and you make a lot of sense here mate.  I just feel strange about talking face to face with a stranger about my shit.  I mean, I know I'm paying them, but I'd just feel silly thinking, "This guy probably has his own shit, going on, why the fuck would he want to hear about my crap?"  :lol

Also, from Australia so we have it too good over here, wouldn't be an issue for m.  Although, I'm so fucking cheap I'd probably find out the price and go, "Nah, fuck that, I'll be right mate!" I'd neglect myself just to save a buck.  Even after my accident, I should have zero cares and spend money more on myself incase I do actually die today, yet I've actually become more fucking cheap.  Can't work that shit out.  :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dublagent66 on September 13, 2022, 10:15:35 AM
Here's a good one.  I'm already depressed that I have to drive into the office today as opposed to working from home.  But, as soon as I pull out of the garage, it starts raining.  During the monsoon season here in AZ, we usually don't have to worry about rain in the morning because storms build up in the afternoon.  In fact, we are in the middle of extreme drought and rain is usually always welcome.  Just not when I'm driving.  It's sunny outside and raining.  Just rain clouds overhead.  That's it.  Water spots all over the car after just getting it washed and detailed a few days ago.  JFC!!!  I know it's a stupid thing to complain about, but the timing couldn't have been worse which is usually the story of my fucking life.  These are the kinds of things that can ruin a day for me. >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on September 13, 2022, 11:42:06 AM
Thanks for the response there Skeever.  I just feel funny about even entertaining the idea of professional help PERSONALLY.  I guess I know my emotions and why I am how I am and feel how I feel.  Ego issues, upbringings, parents, relationships with parents and siblings, when you look deep inside you can really realise where a lot of issues stem from, so I guess I feel I'm good enough at doing that than getting help.  I also am in constant denial and think I don't need it.......which, I don't.  :lol

Acceptance of a lot of things helps me too.  You can accept which makes sufferable things less sufferable but always allow and know within yourself you can change.  You have to want to though, I know that's hard for me.

I feel like I know where you're coming from and I debated it myself for a long time. And I felt like I understood my emotions and my upbringing very well, and I would also occasionally read some books about emotions or psychology. But talk therapy has cut out a lot of the noise. It's like " yeah, you could teach yourself guitar on YouTube". But also, you could find a teacher who knows you very well, and giving you personalized advice. For me the breaking point was the anger, that was never part of who I was before, and thus a pretty clear sign that things had gotten out of my control.

Not sure where you're from, but care here is both scarce and expensive. It took months to find somebody who was both right for me and accepting my insurance. And a lot of times I would give up this search because I'd start feeling better on my own.  Then I'd go through a rough patch and have to start all over again.

Can I weigh in?  When I first went to therapy - not my choice, by the way - I remember telling my mom and she got mad at me: "Why are you telling some phony stranger our family secrets!"  As if we had family secrets, but still.  The point was, it's ours.  And it took a while but I got past it.  And the one thing I took from therapy that opened the whole thing up for me?  I thought I was good at self-reflecting and self-analyzing, and I wasn't even in the ballpark.   Having a trusted non-judgmental - that's the key - third party point you in certain directions is beyond value.

I still have moments - my therapist is a female, and rather attractive, so sometimes SOME topics are harder than others to discuss - but she's a consummate professional, and has created a really trusting, judgment free environment. Skeever is right; even here, where there are no shortage of therapists, finding the right one is sometimes an effort, and to find the right one that takes your insurance even harder - but the payoff is worth it.  You wouldn't self-diagnose a heart condition, or a broken foot, so why your mental health?   As Harry Styles says, "I go to the gym every day, I go to the doctor every year for a physical, I proactively take care of my body, why shouldn't I do the same for my mind?"   I agree 100%
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Skeever on September 13, 2022, 01:50:32 PM
Totally agree with that, Stadler. I thought I was doing a good job understanding myself, but when I would explain issues I was having with my therapist, the line of questioning she would ask often took me to unexpected places. No in the old-school psychological, "so, you're in love with your mother?" or "let's unpack childhood traumas" kind of way, but in a way that has helped me identity certain patterns of thought that I was not really recognizing - for example, a tendency to internalize, and just generally think in ways that betrayed my own insecurities.

For what it's worth, I'm feeling a lot better than I was when I made that post a few days ago.
I started just listing out all the random shit I was going through at work and home, and assigned a status to it. Then I started chipping away at things that were in my control. I realized, within an hour or so, that I had done almost everything I could do at the moment, and no longer felt the need to anxiously shift focus from one thing to the next without actually solving anything. "Journaling" like this is something I'm going to think about more, as it may be very beneficial to keeping some of the stressors that lead to these negative emotions resulting in anger or depression at bay. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on September 13, 2022, 03:40:32 PM
Totally agree with that, Stadler. I thought I was doing a good job understanding myself, but when I would explain issues I was having with my therapist, the line of questioning she would ask often took me to unexpected places. No in the old-school psychological, "so, you're in love with your mother?" or "let's unpack childhood traumas" kind of way, but in a way that has helped me identity certain patterns of thought that I was not really recognizing - for example, a tendency to internalize, and just generally think in ways that betrayed my own insecurities.

For what it's worth, I'm feeling a lot better than I was when I made that post a few days ago.
I started just listing out all the random shit I was going through at work and home, and assigned a status to it. Then I started chipping away at things that were in my control. I realized, within an hour or so, that I had done almost everything I could do at the moment, and no longer felt the need to anxiously shift focus from one thing to the next without actually solving anything. "Journaling" like this is something I'm going to think about more, as it may be very beneficial to keeping some of the stressors that lead to these negative emotions resulting in anger or depression at bay.

The funny thing is, my therapist sort of obviously steers me away from that old-line "childhood trauma" line of reasoning. We don't ignore it, but she's really big on "we're not defined by our traumas".   I always thought I had zero control issues, and it turns out that I don't when it comes to other people, but I really, REALLY do when it comes to me.  My biggest breakthrough has just been really to be kinder to myself.  I still worry that I'm going soft, but the results are unassailable, so maybe "soft" isn't the worst thing in the world.  I'm a long way from where I want to be, but I'm far, FAR better off now than when I started with her in 2013. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on September 13, 2022, 03:43:26 PM
My biggest breakthrough has just been really to be kinder to myself.  I still worry that I'm going soft, but the results are unassailable, so maybe "soft" isn't the worst thing in the world.

Can you explain this?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on September 13, 2022, 03:52:13 PM
Not beating himself up I'd assume.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on September 13, 2022, 03:55:23 PM
My biggest breakthrough has just been really to be kinder to myself.  I still worry that I'm going soft, but the results are unassailable, so maybe "soft" isn't the worst thing in the world.

Can you explain this?

Yeah; I have a tendency to judge my thoughts and feelings. "That's bad" or "that's something I should feel guilty about".  Guilt in the sort of Catholic School sense.  And she's helped me to recognize that I can't control my feelings, only what I do with them, and even then, "what I do with them" doesn't necessarily mean reject them out of hand or whatever.   And for some of those feelings, it led me to be hard on myself, either in terms of rigidity of thought, or rigidity of action, and that didn't always lead to the best outcomes, especially in my first marriage.

She helped me to relinquish some of that control; that's not really true, because I never had that control to begin with so there's nothing to relinquish, so it's really about letting go the ILLUSION of control.  That sometimes felt like I was selling myself short, or being passive.

NINJA'D BY KING.  Get out of my head, old man!!! :) :) :)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on September 13, 2022, 03:59:41 PM
My biggest breakthrough has just been really to be kinder to myself.  I still worry that I'm going soft, but the results are unassailable, so maybe "soft" isn't the worst thing in the world.

Can you explain this?

Yeah; I have a tendency to judge my thoughts and feelings. "That's bad" or "that's something I should feel guilty about".  Guilt in the sort of Catholic School sense.  And she's helped me to recognize that I can't control my feelings, only what I do with them, and even then, "what I do with them" doesn't necessarily mean reject them out of hand or whatever.   And for some of those feelings, it led me to be hard on myself, either in terms of rigidity of thought, or rigidity of action, and that didn't always lead to the best outcomes, especially in my first marriage.

She helped me to relinquish some of that control; that's not really true, because I never had that control to begin with so there's nothing to relinquish, so it's really about letting go the ILLUSION of control.  That sometimes felt like I was selling myself short, or being passive.

OK, I think I understand. Kind of.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on September 14, 2022, 05:29:44 AM
Thanks for the breakdown lads on the professional help thing.  A lot of great points.

Bill mentions the word 'soft'.  That's what I fear I've been at points this year and I hate that.  But that's stupid and definitely an ego things that means nothing in the grand scheme and only affects me.  I still hate the thought of being soft though haha.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on September 14, 2022, 05:48:12 AM
I'm still unclear what Bill meant by "soft" though. Is letting something go being soft? Is not wasting energy fighting for something that is not worth it or out of your control being soft?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on September 14, 2022, 05:54:25 AM
I'm still unclear what Bill meant by "soft" though. Is letting something go being soft? Is not wasting energy fighting for something that is not worth it or out of your control being soft?

I guess weak is another synonym for it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on September 14, 2022, 07:05:16 AM
I'm still unclear what Bill meant by "soft" though. Is letting something go being soft? Is not wasting energy fighting for something that is not worth it or out of your control being soft?

I guess weak is another synonym for it.

Yeah; or settling for second best. Or accepting mediocrity.  I grew up thinking, I was master of my own destiny.  There was nothing I couldn't do without the proper level of work, effort and focus.   There's still a lot of that in my thinking - don't get me wrong; I still think we Americans are a pack of whiners who want the easy way out more often than not - but I've also come to realize "Man plans and God laughs."   There's only so far that can take you.   The way TAC says it is the HEALTHY way of looking at it.  I have to put things in perspective more and realize that, for example, my marriage failing is not necessarily my failure as a husband or a human, even as I take responsibility for those things that I did to make that marriage less than perfect for her.  I need to realize that my kid vaping is not my failure as a father.  Those kinds of things. 

For me, it's too slippery a slope to go in my head from "these 5 things I can influence, or control, these 15 things are going to happen whether I act or not" to "you're a p***y, try harder, you just haven't figured out the trick TO influencing those 15 things yet". 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ProfessorPeart on September 16, 2022, 10:03:11 PM
Not sure where to put this but I needed somewhere to vent.

My wife went into the hospital on 7/26 with double pneumonia. She spent a week in the hospital and was discharged because she could breathe on her own without issue. A week later we were back in the ER. Pneumonia came raging back. She spent a week there and then got moved to a long-term acute care hospital where she was for a week.

Yesterday we were back in the ER again. Her pneumonia is gone but her lungs are not working well. She is now at her worst since she got sick. They have her on a special breathing machine at the moment. She called not too long ago and she is having a slew of tests and procedures scheduled to try and figure out why her lungs are so bad.

I was rolling with it, but it's starting to really weigh me down emotionally right now. November will be 30 years that we have been together as a couple. I don't know anything else other than being with her. I just want this to be over and her to be home.

Today has sucked. All tests that would've shown a clot came up empty. I kinda wish they had found one because what they are talking about now is way worse. They are thinking she has interstitial lung disease, for which there is no cure. Essentially, they think her lungs have started to scar, which is permanent. She needs a special biopsy to confirm but the hospital she is in now does not do that. It is part of the system I work for and they want to transport her into Chicago to our main hospital to do the procedure there. She is not even stable enough at the moment to get the procedure so we are not even sure when this is going to happen.

If this is confirmed, she is possibly looking at a life of oxygen, steroids and immunosuppressants for the rest of her life with the worst case being eventual lung transplant.

After she called me and gave me the news, I shut off my work laptop and just left for the hospital. Didn't tell anyone I was leaving. Just messaged my bosses a few minutes ago and told them I can't work tomorrow. They both responded and said that taking time off was a good idea. It's also my son's birthday and now we are trying to figure out how to have a gathering at the hospital instead of our house.

I'm just at a loss right now.

I guess I have been gone since that last post. Hasn't gotten much better. My wife had surgery yesterday where they took 3 samples from her right lung and inserted a chest tube. The folks at Northwestern in Chicago could not discern what the issue is from her biopsy so now they have pulled in the Mayo Clinic, not something you really want to hear. Running thought is that this is still interstitial lung disease but they are trying to pinpoint an exact cause/reason. She might be coming home tomorrow and she will be on oxygen. No other meds until the Mayo chimes in with their thoughts.

Just got done ordering a shower chair and a couple of wedge incline pillows for her. We just freaking bought a brand new bed just before this most recent hospitalization went down and it is not one of those adjustable types so I am doing my best with what I can.

I'm fried and I guess the stress caused me to develop prostatitis. I had some really bad days at the beginning of that. I have to sit on a pillow and I went cold turkey on caffeine on Sunday since it is a major trigger for it. The headaches have been epic.

The last week I have been like a deer in the headlights. Anyway, thanks to everyone who has sent their thoughts my way. I really need it and have been leaning on non-DTF friends lately to help keep me functional. I hadn't forgotten you guys, just didn't have the time. Having trouble finding joy in anything right now.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on September 16, 2022, 10:27:39 PM
Oh Jesus, that's just tragic mate, I don't really know what to say except mine and everyone's else's prayers and thoughts are with you.  Still keep a glimmer of hope that it will turn around.  Getting a prostate problem is really the last thing you need also.  I know all your thoughts are with your wife, but try and look after you too the best you can.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on September 17, 2022, 07:21:28 AM
I couldn't have typed it any better, Kade.

Prof... I'm just at a loss for words.  I'm not much the praying type, but I'll be hoping and putting out good vibes in the universe for you and Mrs Prof.  Stay as strong as you can, and let out whatever emotions you need to let out.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on September 17, 2022, 02:18:47 PM
Prof, that was tough to read. I'm sure she's freaking out. Take care of your wife, man. It sounds like you are doing just that.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MetalJunkie on September 17, 2022, 04:24:42 PM
I just found out how abusive my dad was to my sisters.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on September 18, 2022, 03:58:55 AM
I just found out how abusive my dad was to my sisters.

That's fucked dude.  Couldn't imagine how you must be feeling.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ProfessorPeart on September 18, 2022, 07:08:58 PM
Not sure where to put this but I needed somewhere to vent.

My wife went into the hospital on 7/26 with double pneumonia. She spent a week in the hospital and was discharged because she could breathe on her own without issue. A week later we were back in the ER. Pneumonia came raging back. She spent a week there and then got moved to a long-term acute care hospital where she was for a week.

Yesterday we were back in the ER again. Her pneumonia is gone but her lungs are not working well. She is now at her worst since she got sick. They have her on a special breathing machine at the moment. She called not too long ago and she is having a slew of tests and procedures scheduled to try and figure out why her lungs are so bad.

I was rolling with it, but it's starting to really weigh me down emotionally right now. November will be 30 years that we have been together as a couple. I don't know anything else other than being with her. I just want this to be over and her to be home.

Today has sucked. All tests that would've shown a clot came up empty. I kinda wish they had found one because what they are talking about now is way worse. They are thinking she has interstitial lung disease, for which there is no cure. Essentially, they think her lungs have started to scar, which is permanent. She needs a special biopsy to confirm but the hospital she is in now does not do that. It is part of the system I work for and they want to transport her into Chicago to our main hospital to do the procedure there. She is not even stable enough at the moment to get the procedure so we are not even sure when this is going to happen.

If this is confirmed, she is possibly looking at a life of oxygen, steroids and immunosuppressants for the rest of her life with the worst case being eventual lung transplant.

After she called me and gave me the news, I shut off my work laptop and just left for the hospital. Didn't tell anyone I was leaving. Just messaged my bosses a few minutes ago and told them I can't work tomorrow. They both responded and said that taking time off was a good idea. It's also my son's birthday and now we are trying to figure out how to have a gathering at the hospital instead of our house.

I'm just at a loss right now.

I guess I have been gone since that last post. Hasn't gotten much better. My wife had surgery yesterday where they took 3 samples from her right lung and inserted a chest tube. The folks at Northwestern in Chicago could not discern what the issue is from her biopsy so now they have pulled in the Mayo Clinic, not something you really want to hear. Running thought is that this is still interstitial lung disease but they are trying to pinpoint an exact cause/reason. She might be coming home tomorrow and she will be on oxygen. No other meds until the Mayo chimes in with their thoughts.

Just got done ordering a shower chair and a couple of wedge incline pillows for her. We just freaking bought a brand new bed just before this most recent hospitalization went down and it is not one of those adjustable types so I am doing my best with what I can.

I'm fried and I guess the stress caused me to develop prostatitis. I had some really bad days at the beginning of that. I have to sit on a pillow and I went cold turkey on caffeine on Sunday since it is a major trigger for it. The headaches have been epic.

The last week I have been like a deer in the headlights. Anyway, thanks to everyone who has sent their thoughts my way. I really need it and have been leaning on non-DTF friends lately to help keep me functional. I hadn't forgotten you guys, just didn't have the time. Having trouble finding joy in anything right now.

So this took a bit of an upward turn. They are now almost ruling out interstitial lung disease. I guess the Mayo is calling it emphysema and chronic lung inflammation. Still not great, but the doctors were all very happy with the news. They called this a huge win. They are now testing for a genetic defect that can cause early emphysema. My wife has never smoked a thing in her life.

She is home now and on an oxygen machine. We also have 5 travel tanks on hand. A slew of doctor appts next week and she also has to get PT setup so she can start building up her lungs again as best she can. She's only on 2 liters of O2 so it is not terrible. The goal/hope is to eventually get off of it entirely.

It's just nice to have her home. I'm working my butt off taking care of her and the house but I don't care. She's here and that's all that matters.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on September 18, 2022, 07:16:05 PM
That's awesome news, man. Maybe once they get it under control, she'll simply have to take a prescription going forward.

Awesome, and fingers continue to be crossed.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on September 18, 2022, 08:34:37 PM
Nice, that's definitely something in the more positive direction mate.  Keep that hope alive, it's working.  I hope she continues to work her way off the oxygen eventually.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on September 19, 2022, 07:16:49 AM
Prof, good to hear (I get that it's not all roses, but still).  Still thinking about you.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ProfessorPeart on September 19, 2022, 08:57:14 AM
I appreciate my 'UFO Crew'.

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Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on September 19, 2022, 12:30:01 PM
I don't know who the rest are, but that's me with the tie, and TAC with the shorty shorts.  :) :) :)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on September 19, 2022, 12:31:35 PM
Hah! That's actually Wolfking.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on September 19, 2022, 02:58:43 PM
Hah! That's actually Wolfking.

 :metal
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Harmony on September 19, 2022, 05:30:51 PM
Happy to hear the news Professor.  I lost a step parent to a chronic lung disease so I know a bit about the oxygen tank shuffle.

One piece of unsolicited advice?  Appetite can be impacted by lung disease and oxygen use.  It can cause weight loss very quickly if one is not careful.  Plus being in the hospital, it likely she's already gotten a bit malnourished.  I hope you might be able to find a registered dietician who can advise your wife around her diet as she may need some calorie boosting.  Stay away from doctors when it comes to nutrition advice (doctors don't know squat about nutrition) and never rely on so-called "nutritionists" because anyone can call themselves one of those after a couple of classes online.  RD is the way to go.

Enjoy having her home.  I bet the only one happier than you to have her home is HER!   :)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on November 22, 2022, 12:46:49 PM
In a dark place right now. Currently debating admitting myself into a psychiatric hospital.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on November 22, 2022, 01:54:17 PM
In a dark place right now. Currently debating admitting myself into a psychiatric hospital.

I feel for you; please take care of yourself.   If you think it can bring you some help or peace, please take that step.  Talk to someone who can help you.

 :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on November 22, 2022, 03:31:21 PM
In a dark place right now. Currently debating admitting myself into a psychiatric hospital.

Take care of yourself mate and do what you need.  Feel free to write any thoughts here, we are here to listen.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on November 22, 2022, 03:35:27 PM
My life has just fallen apart over the past year, with a job that saps all of my energy so I can’t enjoy my hobbies, a never-ending cycle of debt, and now me and my girlfriend are taking a break. I already suffer from depression and anxiety, and my mental illness always gets worse in the winter, and with all of this now I’m at a point where I’m genuinely afraid I won’t make it to the spring without professional help.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on November 22, 2022, 03:40:12 PM
My life has just fallen apart over the past year, with a job that saps all of my energy so I can’t enjoy my hobbies, a never-ending cycle of debt, and now me and my girlfriend are taking a break. I already suffer from depression and anxiety, and my mental illness always gets worse in the winter, and with all of this now I’m at a point where I’m genuinely afraid I won’t make it to the spring without professional help.

I guess you've kind of answered your own question then.

Can you take leave from work in the first instance for a week or two to try and chill out a little?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on November 22, 2022, 03:41:58 PM
Count, are your parents still around and do you have a good relationship with them? If so, I'd try and spend some time with them.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on November 22, 2022, 03:46:38 PM
Count, are your parents still around and do you have a good relationship with them? If so, I'd try and spend some time with them.
My life has just fallen apart over the past year, with a job that saps all of my energy so I can’t enjoy my hobbies, a never-ending cycle of debt, and now me and my girlfriend are taking a break. I already suffer from depression and anxiety, and my mental illness always gets worse in the winter, and with all of this now I’m at a point where I’m genuinely afraid I won’t make it to the spring without professional help.

I guess you've kind of answered your own question then.

Can you take leave from work in the first instance for a week or two to try and chill out a little?

I can’t really take a leave of absence from work, especially being on probation. There’s a whole process I have to go through for any hospitalization as well. I’m waiting until after the holiday weekend to pursue this hospitalization so I don’t ruin my family’s holiday.

Count, are your parents still around and do you have a good relationship with them? If so, I'd try and spend some time with them.

I’m going to my dad’s house for thanksgiving and I live with my mom. The first family member I’m gonna talk to though is my sister.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on November 22, 2022, 03:51:41 PM
Count, are your parents still around and do you have a good relationship with them? If so, I'd try and spend some time with them.

I’m going to my dad’s house for thanksgiving and I live with my mom. The first family member I’m gonna talk to though is my sister.

At least you can talk with your sister. Hopefully you can talk openly with at least one of your parents though.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on November 22, 2022, 04:21:19 PM
Count, are your parents still around and do you have a good relationship with them? If so, I'd try and spend some time with them.
My life has just fallen apart over the past year, with a job that saps all of my energy so I can’t enjoy my hobbies, a never-ending cycle of debt, and now me and my girlfriend are taking a break. I already suffer from depression and anxiety, and my mental illness always gets worse in the winter, and with all of this now I’m at a point where I’m genuinely afraid I won’t make it to the spring without professional help.

I guess you've kind of answered your own question then.

Can you take leave from work in the first instance for a week or two to try and chill out a little?

I can’t really take a leave of absence from work, especially being on probation. There’s a whole process I have to go through for any hospitalization as well. I’m waiting until after the holiday weekend to pursue this hospitalization so I don’t ruin my family’s holiday.

Count, are your parents still around and do you have a good relationship with them? If so, I'd try and spend some time with them.

I’m going to my dad’s house for thanksgiving and I live with my mom. The first family member I’m gonna talk to though is my sister.

So this is a new job if you're on probation?  Not good if it's something new that's taking so much out of you.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on November 22, 2022, 04:28:54 PM
Count, are your parents still around and do you have a good relationship with them? If so, I'd try and spend some time with them.
My life has just fallen apart over the past year, with a job that saps all of my energy so I can’t enjoy my hobbies, a never-ending cycle of debt, and now me and my girlfriend are taking a break. I already suffer from depression and anxiety, and my mental illness always gets worse in the winter, and with all of this now I’m at a point where I’m genuinely afraid I won’t make it to the spring without professional help.

I guess you've kind of answered your own question then.

Can you take leave from work in the first instance for a week or two to try and chill out a little?

I can’t really take a leave of absence from work, especially being on probation. There’s a whole process I have to go through for any hospitalization as well. I’m waiting until after the holiday weekend to pursue this hospitalization so I don’t ruin my family’s holiday.

Count, are your parents still around and do you have a good relationship with them? If so, I'd try and spend some time with them.

I’m going to my dad’s house for thanksgiving and I live with my mom. The first family member I’m gonna talk to though is my sister.

So this is a new job if you're on probation?  Not good if it's something new that's taking so much out of you.

I’m a sanitation worker. It’s a physically demanding job and as a newer person, my seniority is crap so I get bumped around and forced nights a lot.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cool Chris on November 22, 2022, 09:21:43 PM
Whoever it is, sister, dad, mom, us... talk to someone, even if to just connect with another person for a short period. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on November 24, 2022, 02:22:18 PM
Today is hard. I talked to my family about the situation yesterday, and I’m with my dad and my sister today, but I still feel alone.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on November 24, 2022, 02:30:19 PM
Today is hard. I talked to my family about the situation yesterday, and I’m with my dad and my sister today, but I still feel alone.

I totally understand that with immediate family.  We're not that close and even when you chat with them, I too still feel somewhat distant.  You don't even get comfort talking with your mother?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on November 24, 2022, 02:35:01 PM
Today is hard. I talked to my family about the situation yesterday, and I’m with my dad and my sister today, but I still feel alone.

I totally understand that with immediate family.  We're not that close and even when you chat with them, I too still feel somewhat distant.  You don't even get comfort talking with your mother?

I do, but I miss my girlfriend. Everything reminds me of her, so no matter how many people are around me that love me, all I feel is her absence.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on November 24, 2022, 02:39:41 PM
Today is hard. I talked to my family about the situation yesterday, and I’m with my dad and my sister today, but I still feel alone.

I totally understand that with immediate family.  We're not that close and even when you chat with them, I too still feel somewhat distant.  You don't even get comfort talking with your mother?

I do, but I miss my girlfriend. Everything reminds me of her, so no matter how many people are around me that love me, all I feel is her absence.

Yeah that's tough.  I'm guessing the break wasn't a mutual decision then?  Hopefully there's a chance for you guys to reconcile.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on November 24, 2022, 03:45:54 PM
Today is hard. I talked to my family about the situation yesterday, and I’m with my dad and my sister today, but I still feel alone.

I totally understand that with immediate family.  We're not that close and even when you chat with them, I too still feel somewhat distant.  You don't even get comfort talking with your mother?

I do, but I miss my girlfriend. Everything reminds me of her, so no matter how many people are around me that love me, all I feel is her absence.

Yeah that's tough.  I'm guessing the break wasn't a mutual decision then?  Hopefully there's a chance for you guys to reconcile.

We haven’t been seeing eye to eye for the last few months, but I would have preferred for us to work through our issues as a team. It’s just very difficult right now.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on November 24, 2022, 04:06:58 PM
Is there anything about your job that you can take pride in? Going in and kicking ass can be cyclical to your attitude. No matter what job you have, there must be something you can get out of it. Your will and effort are up to you.

And guess what? We've all been through breakups, even marriages. Yes, it's tough, but life goes on, and other doors will open, likely better ones.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on November 24, 2022, 04:55:45 PM
Is there anything about your job that you can take pride in? Going in and kicking ass can be cyclical to your attitude. No matter what job you have, there must be something you can get out of it. Your will and effort are up to you.

And guess what? We've all been through breakups, even marriages. Yes, it's tough, but life goes on, and other doors will open, likely better ones.

This is pretty much it in a nutshell.  While times are difficult and we all go through rough spots and sometimes things are overwhelming, the only one that can change is us.

Breakups are hard and sometimes you think you will never recover but while Tim is to the point, you can't control what the other person wants as much as it hurts.

I firmly believe now that everything we go through in life happens for a reason.  Finding that reason though can be tricky and always finding a positive is easier said than done.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on November 24, 2022, 07:39:50 PM
Count, I know when you feel this way nothing anyone says really helps but I will say this: This lonely, dark, unsafe place you're in right now is unbearable, like you're entire body and mind feels sick. I've been there more than once and the only person who will ultimately get you through this is you and you will. It feels like it will never end, but I swear, it will. You can't eat, sleep or function. The taste in your mouth is different, its scary and you just want to feel like yourself again but you don't believe you ever will, but in time you will. I'm so glad you vented this here and I empathize with you. Please ride this wave, it will end and you will be stronger when you do. Its ok to fall my brother. I'm from NY and I know I'm a stranger but I feel you. Please reach back if you need some coping mechanisms that got me through some unbearable times. :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: KevShmev on November 24, 2022, 08:03:39 PM
Sorry to hear this, Count. Be well and do not be afraid to reach out if you need someone with whom to chat.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on November 25, 2022, 03:22:43 AM
Count, I know when you feel this way nothing anyone says really helps but I will say this: This lonely, dark, unsafe place you're in right now is unbearable, like you're entire body and mind feels sick. I've been there more than once and the only person who will ultimately get you through this is you and you will. It feels like it will never end, but I swear, it will. You can't eat, sleep or function. The taste in your mouth is different, its scary and you just want to feel like yourself again but you don't believe you ever will, but in time you will. I'm so glad you vented this here and I empathize with you. Please ride this wave, it will end and you will be stronger when you do. Its ok to fall my brother. I'm from NY and I know I'm a stranger but I feel you. Please reach back if you need some coping mechanisms that got me through some unbearable times. :heart

Nice post Tom.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on November 25, 2022, 08:03:19 AM
Count, I know when you feel this way nothing anyone says really helps but I will say this: This lonely, dark, unsafe place you're in right now is unbearable, like you're entire body and mind feels sick. I've been there more than once and the only person who will ultimately get you through this is you and you will. It feels like it will never end, but I swear, it will. You can't eat, sleep or function. The taste in your mouth is different, its scary and you just want to feel like yourself again but you don't believe you ever will, but in time you will. I'm so glad you vented this here and I empathize with you. Please ride this wave, it will end and you will be stronger when you do. Its ok to fall my brother. I'm from NY and I know I'm a stranger but I feel you. Please reach back if you need some coping mechanisms that got me through some unbearable times. :heart

I appreciate this. Thank you.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: carl320 on November 26, 2022, 08:10:05 PM
I haven't posted much in recent years (or much at all).  Even then, I have a first appointment with a therapist on Thursday.  It's been a rough year that I haven't really talked about online.  It's not really just the last year, as I've had issues that I've needed to try to work out that have been a big part of my life.  But in the the last year, things have happened that have made me realize how isolated I am.  I don't have high hopes, since it can be a process finding the right therapist, but I guess this is the first step.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on November 26, 2022, 08:12:30 PM
Good luck, Brother.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on November 26, 2022, 08:16:08 PM
You have us to talk to. Please think of us when you need it the most.   
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on November 26, 2022, 08:18:08 PM
I haven't posted much in recent years (or much at all).  Even then, I have a first appointment with a therapist on Thursday.  It's been a rough year that I haven't really talked about online.  It's not really just the last year, as I've had issues that I've needed to try to work out that have been a big part of my life.  But in the the last year, things have happened that have made me realize how isolated I am.  I don't have high hopes, since it can be a process finding the right therapist, but I guess this is the first step.

Therapy can be so helpful when you find the right therapist. I hope it gets you to where you want to be.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: KevShmev on November 26, 2022, 08:31:15 PM
I guess this is as good a place as any to put this.

As some of you know, my mom passed away this past February and this year has been fairly horrible as a result.  My dad is simply never going to be okay again.  I can see it on him every time I see him.  Honestly, it is depressing even going to the house and having any kind of family get-together as feels depressing to have it without Mom there.  Thanksgiving was actually fairly good because my cousin Maureen (who is in contention for the nicest person you could ever hope to meet) and her husband Tim had all of us over and the distraction of our cousins and close family members to talk to was a major plus, but the next month or so with the Christmas season and all is going to be awful.  And it's not like it will get any better after that, as life will go on and continue to just be awful for all of us. 

I shudder to think of how life will be if/when my dad passes, as I feel like he would just not have much fight in him if he got sick at all. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on November 26, 2022, 08:38:34 PM
I guess this is as good a place as any to put this.

As some of you know, my mom passed away this past February and this year has been fairly horrible as a result.  My dad is simply never going to be okay again.  I can see it on him every time I see him.  Honestly, it is depressing even going to the house and having any kind of family get-together as feels depressing to have it without Mom there.  Thanksgiving was actually fairly good because my cousin Maureen (who is in contention for the nicest person you could ever hope to meet) and her husband Tim had all of us over and the distraction of our cousins and close family members to talk to was a major plus, but the next month or so with the Christmas season and all is going to be awful.  And it's not like it will get any better after that, as life will go on and continue to just be awful for all of us. 

I shudder to think of how life will be if/when my dad passes, as I feel like he would just not have much fight in him if he got sick at all.

I'm heartbroken for you kev. Its unbearable. I lost both my parents horrifically. My father age 70 in 2020 and my mom age 71 this past Mother's day. I feel like an orphan. Like my oxygen is cut off and it's getting harder with time. Its shattering. I haven't been the same since.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: KevShmev on November 26, 2022, 08:44:14 PM
I guess this is as good a place as any to put this.

As some of you know, my mom passed away this past February and this year has been fairly horrible as a result.  My dad is simply never going to be okay again.  I can see it on him every time I see him.  Honestly, it is depressing even going to the house and having any kind of family get-together as feels depressing to have it without Mom there.  Thanksgiving was actually fairly good because my cousin Maureen (who is in contention for the nicest person you could ever hope to meet) and her husband Tim had all of us over and the distraction of our cousins and close family members to talk to was a major plus, but the next month or so with the Christmas season and all is going to be awful.  And it's not like it will get any better after that, as life will go on and continue to just be awful for all of us. 

I shudder to think of how life will be if/when my dad passes, as I feel like he would just not have much fight in him if he got sick at all.

I'm heartbroken for you kev. Its unbearable. I lost both my parents horrifically. My father age 70 in 2020 and my mom age 71 this past Mother's day. I feel like an orphan. Like my oxygen is cut off and it's getting harder with time. Its shattering. I haven't been the same since.

My heart breaks for you as well. That is just awful.  :( :(
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Post by: TAC on November 26, 2022, 08:49:16 PM
I guess this is as good a place as any to put this.

As some of you know, my mom passed away this past February and this year has been fairly horrible as a result.  My dad is simply never going to be okay again.  I can see it on him every time I see him.  Honestly, it is depressing even going to the house and having any kind of family get-together as feels depressing to have it without Mom there.  Thanksgiving was actually fairly good because my cousin Maureen (who is in contention for the nicest person you could ever hope to meet) and her husband Tim had all of us over and the distraction of our cousins and close family members to talk to was a major plus, but the next month or so with the Christmas season and all is going to be awful.  And it's not like it will get any better after that, as life will go on and continue to just be awful for all of us. 

I shudder to think of how life will be if/when my dad passes, as I feel like he would just not have much fight in him if he got sick at all.

My wife is related to you?? 


Can't say I feel the same way about my mother as you do, but I do feel that strongly about my father. Just saw him for the first time in a year and a half yesterday, and well, he's definitely going first.

I definitely feel bad for your father. You've still got at half of your life ahead of you though. It'll get easier. It's still the first year.


@ Kev and Tom... Consider yourselves lucky. I have basically lived without my parents in my life for damn near 20 years.
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Post by: KevShmev on November 26, 2022, 08:55:18 PM
I guess this is as good a place as any to put this.

As some of you know, my mom passed away this past February and this year has been fairly horrible as a result.  My dad is simply never going to be okay again.  I can see it on him every time I see him.  Honestly, it is depressing even going to the house and having any kind of family get-together as feels depressing to have it without Mom there.  Thanksgiving was actually fairly good because my cousin Maureen (who is in contention for the nicest person you could ever hope to meet) and her husband Tim had all of us over and the distraction of our cousins and close family members to talk to was a major plus, but the next month or so with the Christmas season and all is going to be awful.  And it's not like it will get any better after that, as life will go on and continue to just be awful for all of us. 

I shudder to think of how life will be if/when my dad passes, as I feel like he would just not have much fight in him if he got sick at all.

My wife is related to you?? 


Can't say I feel the same way about my mother as you do, but I do feel that strongly about my father. Just saw him for the first time in a year and a half yesterday, and well, he's definitely going first.

I definitely feel bad for your father. You've still got at half of your life ahead of you though. It'll get easier. It's still the first year.


@ Kev and Tom... Consider yourselves lucky. I have basically lived without my parents in my life for damn near 20 years.

Don't get me wrong, I have had the perspective that my brothers and I were lucky to have Mom for as many years as we did (50, 48 and 44 for the three of us at the time). I cannot imagine the people who lost one or both of their parents at a young age.  It is incomprehensible to me.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on November 26, 2022, 08:57:54 PM
We lost a best friend of the family a few weeks ago, and his three daughters are my kids' ages. One of the girls is my oldest son's best friend. The youngest is a freshman in college. I definitely feel bad for them. 
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Post by: Glasser on November 26, 2022, 09:43:32 PM
I guess this is as good a place as any to put this.

As some of you know, my mom passed away this past February and this year has been fairly horrible as a result.  My dad is simply never going to be okay again.  I can see it on him every time I see him.  Honestly, it is depressing even going to the house and having any kind of family get-together as feels depressing to have it without Mom there.  Thanksgiving was actually fairly good because my cousin Maureen (who is in contention for the nicest person you could ever hope to meet) and her husband Tim had all of us over and the distraction of our cousins and close family members to talk to was a major plus, but the next month or so with the Christmas season and all is going to be awful.  And it's not like it will get any better after that, as life will go on and continue to just be awful for all of us. 

I shudder to think of how life will be if/when my dad passes, as I feel like he would just not have much fight in him if he got sick at all.

My wife is related to you?? 


Can't say I feel the same way about my mother as you do, but I do feel that strongly about my father. Just saw him for the first time in a year and a half yesterday, and well, he's definitely going first.

I definitely feel bad for your father. You've still got at half of your life ahead of you though. It'll get easier. It's still the first year.


@ Kev and Tom... Consider yourselves lucky. I have basically lived without my parents in my life for damn near 20 years.

That's awful Tim. I'm blessed to have had the time I did but the pain I now feel is brutal. There was a LOT of collateral loss. My entire family was destroyed. I don't speak to my siblings, first cousins, pretty much everyone except my wife and kids. I just want to disappear.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: KevShmev on November 27, 2022, 06:13:30 AM
We lost a best friend of the family a few weeks ago, and his three daughters are my kids' ages. One of the girls is my oldest son's best friend. The youngest is a freshman in college. I definitely feel bad for them.

Damn, that is terrible to hear.  Condolences for sure.  Life just sucks this year.  >:( >:(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on November 27, 2022, 06:57:31 AM
I'm blessed to have had the time I did but the pain I now feel is brutal. There was a LOT of collateral loss. My entire family was destroyed. I don't speak to my siblings, first cousins, pretty much everyone except my wife and kids. I just want to disappear.

Was the collateral damage due to infighting, or more that your folks were the center of the family around who everyone gathered?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on November 27, 2022, 03:13:21 PM
I guess this is as good a place as any to put this.

As some of you know, my mom passed away this past February and this year has been fairly horrible as a result.  My dad is simply never going to be okay again.  I can see it on him every time I see him.  Honestly, it is depressing even going to the house and having any kind of family get-together as feels depressing to have it without Mom there.  Thanksgiving was actually fairly good because my cousin Maureen (who is in contention for the nicest person you could ever hope to meet) and her husband Tim had all of us over and the distraction of our cousins and close family members to talk to was a major plus, but the next month or so with the Christmas season and all is going to be awful.  And it's not like it will get any better after that, as life will go on and continue to just be awful for all of us. 

I shudder to think of how life will be if/when my dad passes, as I feel like he would just not have much fight in him if he got sick at all.

My wife is related to you?? 


Can't say I feel the same way about my mother as you do, but I do feel that strongly about my father. Just saw him for the first time in a year and a half yesterday, and well, he's definitely going first.

I definitely feel bad for your father. You've still got at half of your life ahead of you though. It'll get easier. It's still the first year.


@ Kev and Tom... Consider yourselves lucky. I have basically lived without my parents in my life for damn near 20 years.

That's awful Tim. I'm blessed to have had the time I did but the pain I now feel is brutal. There was a LOT of collateral loss. My entire family was destroyed. I don't speak to my siblings, first cousins, pretty much everyone except my wife and kids. I just want to disappear.

Cherish you wife and kids mate.

I rarely speak to my siblings and have never spoken to cousins.  We are a fucked up miserable family too and had plenty of issues.  I don't know your situation but take comfort in your not alone in these kind of situations. 

I should cherish my parents more while they are both still here.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on November 27, 2022, 05:19:47 PM
I'm blessed to have had the time I did but the pain I now feel is brutal. There was a LOT of collateral loss. My entire family was destroyed. I don't speak to my siblings, first cousins, pretty much everyone except my wife and kids. I just want to disappear.

Was the collateral damage due to infighting, or more that your folks were the center of the family around who everyone gathered?

Constant fighting and strife.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on November 27, 2022, 05:23:13 PM
I guess this is as good a place as any to put this.

As some of you know, my mom passed away this past February and this year has been fairly horrible as a result.  My dad is simply never going to be okay again.  I can see it on him every time I see him.  Honestly, it is depressing even going to the house and having any kind of family get-together as feels depressing to have it without Mom there.  Thanksgiving was actually fairly good because my cousin Maureen (who is in contention for the nicest person you could ever hope to meet) and her husband Tim had all of us over and the distraction of our cousins and close family members to talk to was a major plus, but the next month or so with the Christmas season and all is going to be awful.  And it's not like it will get any better after that, as life will go on and continue to just be awful for all of us. 

I shudder to think of how life will be if/when my dad passes, as I feel like he would just not have much fight in him if he got sick at all.

My wife is related to you?? 


Can't say I feel the same way about my mother as you do, but I do feel that strongly about my father. Just saw him for the first time in a year and a half yesterday, and well, he's definitely going first.

I definitely feel bad for your father. You've still got at half of your life ahead of you though. It'll get easier. It's still the first year.


@ Kev and Tom... Consider yourselves lucky. I have basically lived without my parents in my life for damn near 20 years.

That's awful Tim. I'm blessed to have had the time I did but the pain I now feel is brutal. There was a LOT of collateral loss. My entire family was destroyed. I don't speak to my siblings, first cousins, pretty much everyone except my wife and kids. I just want to disappear.

Cherish you wife and kids mate.

I rarely speak to my siblings and have never spoken to cousins.  We are a fucked up miserable family too and had plenty of issues.  I don't know your situation but take comfort in your not alone in these kind of situations. 

I should cherish my parents more while they are both still here.

Yes, I would give anything to spend time with them again. I am very grateful for my wife and 3 amazing boys.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on November 27, 2022, 05:39:21 PM
I'm blessed to have had the time I did but the pain I now feel is brutal. There was a LOT of collateral loss. My entire family was destroyed. I don't speak to my siblings, first cousins, pretty much everyone except my wife and kids. I just want to disappear.

Was the collateral damage due to infighting, or more that your folks were the center of the family around who everyone gathered?

Constant fighting and strife.

As long as your conscience is clear, fuck 'em. You can't make anyone do or think anything. Take care of YOURSELF and YOUR family. They love and need you.

Plus, you have us now!  :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on November 27, 2022, 05:48:16 PM
I'm blessed to have had the time I did but the pain I now feel is brutal. There was a LOT of collateral loss. My entire family was destroyed. I don't speak to my siblings, first cousins, pretty much everyone except my wife and kids. I just want to disappear.

Was the collateral damage due to infighting, or more that your folks were the center of the family around who everyone gathered?

Constant fighting and strife.

As long as your conscience is clear, fuck 'em. You can't make anyone do or think anything. Take care of YOURSELF and YOUR family. They love and need you.

Plus, you have us now!  :lol

DTF has replaced all my extended family, plus my need for children.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on November 27, 2022, 08:12:02 PM
I'm blessed to have had the time I did but the pain I now feel is brutal. There was a LOT of collateral loss. My entire family was destroyed. I don't speak to my siblings, first cousins, pretty much everyone except my wife and kids. I just want to disappear.

Was the collateral damage due to infighting, or more that your folks were the center of the family around who everyone gathered?

Constant fighting and strife.

As long as your conscience is clear, fuck 'em. You can't make anyone do or think anything. Take care of YOURSELF and YOUR family. They love and need you.

Plus, you have us now!  :lol

Thank you Tim. My conscience is crystal clear. I just don't understand how people who claim to love you can you be so cruel, BEYOND abusive, it crushes me. Yes, my DTF family are sweet and kind, I'm thankful for you all.  :heart :metal
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on November 28, 2022, 06:42:42 AM
My cousin's wife passed away this morning to brain cancer.  She lit up the room with her personality.  Too damn young.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on November 28, 2022, 07:22:55 AM
I'm sorry to hear this King.  :hug:
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Post by: XJDenton on November 28, 2022, 07:30:50 AM
Cancer is a shit. I'm sorry.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Lonk on November 28, 2022, 07:35:51 AM
Sorry to hear that King  :'(
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 28, 2022, 08:35:52 AM
Cancer is a shit. I'm sorry.

F#ck cancer.  Seriously.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on November 28, 2022, 12:42:11 PM
All this talk about parents; today would have been my mom and dad's 59th wedding anniversary.  As if the Monday after a holiday isn't bad enough.  ;)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: MetalJunkie on November 28, 2022, 12:43:25 PM
All this talk about parents; today would have been my mom and dad's 59th wedding anniversary.  As if the Monday after a holiday isn't bad enough.  ;)
Oh man. May you bask in their warm memories.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on November 28, 2022, 12:53:39 PM
I think about that stuff too Bill.  Here's a video of Mickey singing at her brother's Christmas show. Her brother is Gary Hoey. She was a powerful singer. I feel so bad for my cousin Larry, her husband.

https://youtu.be/HN3RwmB-FuY
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on November 28, 2022, 01:26:45 PM
My cousin's wife passed away this morning to brain cancer.  She lit up the room with her personality.  Too damn young.

That's awful, Joe. WTF?


All this talk about parents; today would have been my mom and dad's 59th wedding anniversary.  As if the Monday after a holiday isn't bad enough.  ;)

Been thinking about you too, man.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: KevShmev on November 29, 2022, 07:58:21 PM
My cousin's wife passed away this morning to brain cancer.  She lit up the room with her personality.  Too damn young.

Ugh, that is awful. Sorry to hear that, Joe.  :( :(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on November 29, 2022, 07:59:58 PM
Thanks Kev. She was truly loved. So many posts on Facebook from so many people she has touched. I feel for my cousin and their 2 daughters. 
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Post by: wolfking on November 30, 2022, 04:06:01 AM
That's shit mate.  Life is really fucked up sometimes.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Dublagent66 on November 30, 2022, 03:05:23 PM
I've been through a similar loss, but everyone's situation is still different.  There is no template for grieving a lost loved one.  So sorry to hear about things like this cause it hits so close to home.  Cancer is a fuckin' bitch! >:(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on December 01, 2022, 06:08:36 AM
Thanks Kev. She was truly loved. So many posts on Facebook from so many people she has touched. I feel for my cousin and their 2 daughters.

I am very sorry.

I've been through a similar loss, but everyone's situation is still different.  There is no template for grieving a lost loved one.  So sorry to hear about things like this cause it hits so close to home.  Cancer is a fuckin' bitch! >:(

100% THIS.  I knew it would be a tough go when either one of my parents left us, but I had no idea it would be like this. I don't mean that to say it's "worse than I imagined"; in some ways it is, in some ways it's better, believe it or not. But it's DIFFERENT.  These are not the emotions I thought I would be feeling.

Trust yourself, be kind to yourself, and LET YOURSELF GRIEVE. There are no heroes.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Chino on December 01, 2022, 09:01:07 AM
My aunt just died. I haven't talked to her in a couple years now, but it's still casting a pretty good cloud.

She didn't drive, so she called for an ambulance and checked herself into the hospital with a pretty bad UTI. They admitted her for monitoring over night. She choked on her dinner in her hospital bed, struggled to breathe, had a heart attack, was put into a medically induced coma for a couple weeks, and just had the plug pulled. Her husband has early signs of dementia and is in a live-in facility. They hated each other and haven't spoken in years, but legally all their stuff is still intertwined. It's a clusterfuck
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: XJDenton on December 01, 2022, 09:21:22 AM
Sorry Chino.

My Maternal Grandmother just died. She'd been deteriorating for the last 5 years or so, was on a DNR and went into assisted living in the summer, so not really a surprise (made it to her mid nineties). Still, sucks.
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Post by: Lonk on December 01, 2022, 09:36:42 AM
Sorry to hear that guys :/

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Post by: Stadler on December 01, 2022, 02:35:18 PM
My aunt just died. I haven't talked to her in a couple years now, but it's still casting a pretty good cloud.

She didn't drive, so she called for an ambulance and checked herself into the hospital with a pretty bad UTI. They admitted her for monitoring over night. She choked on her dinner in her hospital bed, struggled to breathe, had a heart attack, was put into a medically induced coma for a couple weeks, and just had the plug pulled. Her husband has early signs of dementia and is in a live-in facility. They hated each other and haven't spoken in years, but legally all their stuff is still intertwined. It's a clusterfuck

Dammit; it's hard when it's messy. My best to you and your family

(I didn't seen this, by the way, when I sent you that PM.)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on December 01, 2022, 02:36:20 PM
Sorry Chino.

My Maternal Grandmother just died. She'd been deteriorating for the last 5 years or so, was on a DNR and went into assisted living in the summer, so not really a surprise (made it to her mid nineties). Still, sucks.

It does; I still think about my maternal grandmother (Gram!) and she's been gone almost 30 years now.  Crazy how time flies.

All my sympathies to you and your family.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on December 01, 2022, 02:38:24 PM
My maternal grandmother was the most special person I've ever known.


Oh, and In before Ben goes, "People die. Get over it."  ;D
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Post by: JayOctavarium on December 01, 2022, 03:23:41 PM
Man do I fucking hate the holidays. It's so hard to not just feel completely alone and isolated.
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Post by: King Postwhore on December 01, 2022, 07:14:45 PM
Brian, I'm so sorry.
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Post by: XJDenton on December 02, 2022, 04:15:27 AM
Sorry Chino.

My Maternal Grandmother just died. She'd been deteriorating for the last 5 years or so, was on a DNR and went into assisted living in the summer, so not really a surprise (made it to her mid nineties). Still, sucks.

It does; I still think about my maternal grandmother (Gram!) and she's been gone almost 30 years now.  Crazy how time flies.

All my sympathies to you and your family.

Cheers Stad. Appreciate it. All doing well as can be expected. And she was surrounded by family at the end, so its as good an ending as any of us can hope for.
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Post by: Animal on December 02, 2022, 06:55:34 AM
dt
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Post by: King Postwhore on December 02, 2022, 08:00:49 AM
It never goes away Animal.  My mom passed away in February of 2011.  Only 64 years old.  To this day, when something reminds me of her I well up.  The loss is always there. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cool Chris on December 02, 2022, 11:34:56 PM
Not really angry or depressed, but keeping with one of the themes here... my dad had major heart surgery recently. His recovery is going slowly, but as expected. My mom has been solid through all this, and despite me and my sister's repeated offers, she has declined any help from us. Until yesterday. My dad had to go back to the hospital overnight for observation (he's ok, details not important) and in talking to my mom, she sounded different for the first time during all this. I asked her again what I could do. She said dad always handled the bills and just thinking about them is overwhelming her. I told her to send me everything and I would handle it all until dad was ready to take it on again, and I could hear the weight lift from her voice.

I talked to my sister later and it was the first time she and I ever discussed needing to step up for them as they grow older. It really feels like a page is turning in our family. We knew they wouldn't live in their current house forever - it's too big for just the two of them - but this experience is probably moving up their schedule on when they downsize and move closer to my sister and I.
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Post by: TAC on December 03, 2022, 01:32:38 PM
Going through something quite similar to this Chris.
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Post by: Podaar on December 06, 2022, 05:51:03 AM
Yeah, my Mom (last remaining parent for Mrs. P and I) just turned 88. She lives alone, is getting a bit vague, and mildly complains about both.

In May, she started talking about selling her condo and moving into an assisted living community. My siblings and I encouraged her to do what she wishes and we would support her. Honestly, she could hire a live-in nurse or med student and put them up in her basement (she's got way more money than she'll ever need), but a community of similar aged people might be nice for her.

We took her out to dinner last night and the subject never came up. I asked her when I dropped her off if she's made any more plans on the issue. She said no, and blamed the lack of progress on no one having the time to go with her to look places over. I know from talking with my sister, that Mom never asks.

It's sad to see Mom frightened and too prideful to ask for help. But at the same time, she raised us all to be self-sufficient and fiercely independent. It's a natural consequence that we all want to give her the same respect.

Anyway, it bums me out.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on December 06, 2022, 06:34:48 AM
Well, the fact that SHE talked about moving into an assisted living facility is good. Most people go kicking and screaming. Most acclimate quite nicely and some never get over it. My wife works at a half independant/half assisted.

I wish my parents would consider such a place, but they are hell bet on buying a house, and my father is in rough shape.
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Post by: Grappler on December 12, 2022, 08:02:14 PM
I can say I'm going through something similar as well.  My mom has alzheimers.

Eight years ago, it started as short-term memory loss, where she would repeat herself a lot.  There was one dinner where she asked my wife and I the same question five times n a three minute span.  That continued for about 6 years, along with other episodes (she got lost in a parking garage and couldn't find her car).  At the time, she was also babysitting our daughter one day a week.  My dad eventually retired (I think to prevent any catastrophe while babysitting).  Their friends and people in town started to notice and ask my dad about it.  He'd explain it away as just short term memory loss from aging, but it was the elephant in the room - you couldn't talk to my mom about it.  She'd deny it.  She was brought up by a very stoic, German father, who believed that admitting weakness was bad.  She's very much like him.

During the early days of the pandemic in 2020, my dad came over to my house one morning to help me change our water heater.  Afterwards, he stood in our driveway and vented about my mom.  He'd started talking to her about her memory issues, which would lead to an all-out argument.  She'd be mad for 3 days, then forget why she was mad and nothing was wrong.  The cycle would repeat.  We started talking to him more frequently and helping him.  He was so upset with her that he was talking about divorcing her.  That scared me a bit, but he came down from that ledge and talked to my cousins (two of my mom's sisters had alzheimers) which helped.

Over the last two years, he's taken more control of the situation, arranged their finances and has been taking care of her as the disease progresses, including getting her to a neurologist for help with her memory loss.  On the weekend that my family and I moved into our new house, they had an argument, and then a day later she became physically violent towards him, throwing things.  I got all of these texts - he didn't know what to do.  My brother and I both said to call 911 and let them handle it.  She made a sarcastic suicidal comment in front of the paramedics, who threw her in the ambulance and took her to the ER.  From there, she went to a behavioral health unit for 10 days.  They adjusted her medication, which turned her into a zombie.  She has no personality, can't hold a conversation, and won't sit still.  Every 30 seconds, she gets up, but has no motivation to do anything.

He tried home help care, but she was aggressive towards them and he doesn't want to subject 3rd parties to her behavior.  Today, she became violent with him again after several months of not being that way, and reached over and grabbed the steering wheel while driving.  The behavioral health unit wouldn't take her in.  So they went home.  She kept trying to push him out of the house and make him leave, and then finally hit him over the head with the handset from the telephone.  He called 911 again and I finally said that it's time he seriously consider a permanent memory care residential facility for her.  My dad is finally on board with that after several months of us suggesting it.

We'll see how it goes, but it's so sad to see her like this.  I baby sat her one morning and she wouldn't sit down and watch the news.  She'd make sarcastic comments to me to make me stop reading a book and pay attention to her, but when I'd suggest doing something, she wouldn't want to do it.  Certain memories come back to me and I think about her during that year, realizing how quickly her disease progressed.  I hate admitting it, but in 2020, my dad was so beside himself that I started wondering if it would be a blessing if my mom got that original strain of covid and didn't survive it.  He hasn't been able to enjoy his retirement - had to quit his bowling and golf leagues, had to stop serving on the planning and zoning committee of their town, and can't travel.  If she leaves the house, she wants to go home, but when she's home, she gets depressed.  I come up with reasons to get them out of the house, like "hey, come over and help me change a light switch." 

Watching your parents age is awful.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on December 12, 2022, 08:17:32 PM
Im so sorry.  I feel you. See the chat thread. My dad is disappearing in front of our eyes.  He won't help himself and I feel helpless like you.
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Post by: TAC on December 12, 2022, 08:20:59 PM
I finally said that it's time he seriously consider a permanent memory care residential facility for her.  My dad is finally on board with that after several months of us suggesting it.

It's the best thing for them.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on December 13, 2022, 06:03:51 AM
Well, the fact that SHE talked about moving into an assisted living facility is good. Most people go kicking and screaming. Most acclimate quite nicely and some never get over it. My wife works at a half independant/half assisted.

I wish my parents would consider such a place, but they are hell bet on buying a house, and my father is in rough shape.

Having just gone through all of this over the last year, I can attest to that being the case.  BOTH my parents were "assisted living is just the first step to dying and if we're going to die, we're going to die in our condo, this is where we love to be."   And my brother and I just couldn't leave them to their own devices. They just couldn't do it all anymore. Mom's Alzheimer's was the key; when my dad fell and broke his leg (requiring three months of extended therapy) it was, ironically, the best thing to happen to them because it FORCED Mom into assisted living and he couldn't argue that.  Then Dad went, to continue his rehab.  They both would ask periodically "when are we going back to the condo" but after a couple weeks that went away and they liked not having to cook, not having to do laundry, not having to park cars, etc.

Neither one lasted a year (one was six months, one was ten months) in assisted living, and I'm still wrestling with the idea of whether those would have been longer or shorter if they were on their own, and I'm sort of coming to the conclusion that they would have been what they are.  Dad's cancer riddled his body (we believe that it even went to his brain in the last month or so) and Mom declined PRECIPITOUSLY when Dad passed.  None of that had anything to do with "assisted living". 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Grappler on December 13, 2022, 07:39:31 AM
Im so sorry.  I feel you. See the chat thread. My dad is disappearing in front of our eyes.  He won't help himself and I feel helpless like you.

Thanks.  My dad is a saint for what he has put up with from my mom and has given up for himself to do it.  I'll have to read the chat thread, I rarely look at that one.

I finally said that it's time he seriously consider a permanent memory care residential facility for her.  My dad is finally on board with that after several months of us suggesting it.

It's the best thing for them.

Thanks - I agree.  My dad has resisted our help, he says that it's his burden to carry and he shields my brother and I from 99.9% of my mom's behavior. When my mom is here at my house for family gatherings, she is generally fine.  But it's becoming a safety thing now, where being around her is making him unsafe, whether she acts out in the car again, or becomes violent towards him.  I think after yesterday, he's realized that she needs to be in a memory care facility and taking care of her at home is more than he can handle.  It would be different if she would just sit around and watch tv all day, but she requires full time attention and care. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Hellholming on December 24, 2022, 11:40:07 AM
I've never felt more lonely in my life than now. Fuck this divorce... at least I get some friends over tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on December 24, 2022, 11:48:35 AM
I've never felt more lonely in my life than now. Fuck this divorce... at least I get some friends over tomorrow.

Shit due, sorry to hear this. A lot of us have been there. You got friends here too, brother.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on December 24, 2022, 11:59:51 AM
That's terrible. Exactly what TAC said.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on December 24, 2022, 12:51:10 PM
I've never felt more lonely in my life than now. Fuck this divorce... at least I get some friends over tomorrow.

Sending Heart felt positive vibes your way brother!  :metal
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: XJDenton on December 24, 2022, 01:18:40 PM
I've never felt more lonely in my life than now. Fuck this divorce... at least I get some friends over tomorrow.

If I could give you a bear-hug over the internet, I would.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on December 24, 2022, 02:38:54 PM
I've never felt more lonely in my life than now. Fuck this divorce... at least I get some friends over tomorrow.

The holidays are rough right after heartbreak. At least you’re not alone this year.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on December 25, 2022, 05:27:57 PM
I've never felt more lonely in my life than now. Fuck this divorce... at least I get some friends over tomorrow.

Hang in there.  I’m a member of the club, too, and helping my stepson through it too.   You’ll get there.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: KevShmev on December 26, 2022, 10:58:30 AM
I've never felt more lonely in my life than now. Fuck this divorce... at least I get some friends over tomorrow.

Good to see ya again (!!), but sucks to hear you are going through a bad time.  That seems to be the trend here at DTF in 2022, sadly.  Hang in there.  :hat :hat
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ruba on December 28, 2022, 05:50:54 AM
Sooo... I lost my internet banking credentials to a phishing text. I had just woken up from a nap so no red flags arose until just after I had given my info to a surprisingly convincing looking site. Thankfully we got the account locked down and the thieves kicked out within 15 minutes so I think I didn't lose anything, but I had to get the new information in person with the bank. With an ID. Unfortunately, my passport had gone old few years ago and I had to order a new one at the police station... which took eight days to arrive. I got the notice of its arrival an hour before the station closes and didn't see it before it was too late, so I got the next day... December 23rd. Of course, the bank had closed for the holidays that day. Now today I finally got new login information, and the first thing it asks me to do is to change my password. Unfortunately, I think I didn't pay attention to my keystrokes and probably typed in a different number that I wanted (also the user number is complicated, but I think I typed it in right). I try a few times and now my account is locked until tomorrow.

 :censored :censored :censored :censored

Thankfully I have some savings in cash so I've been able to make do and I spend the Christmas at my mom's, but it's never really fun times when you have to open the ole jam jar. Mostly I'm just kicking myself for being an eedjit.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on December 28, 2022, 06:26:34 AM
Confession time. DTF is behind the scam....just to piss you off so much that you have to come here and post in this thread.
Sorry.

But 6 posts in a calendar year??

Good to see you anyway. ;D
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Ruba on December 28, 2022, 09:20:42 AM
Hahah  :lol. Lovely to see you too Tim!

I think I'll be visiting more often, it's nice that this place is still up.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on December 28, 2022, 09:57:01 AM
Tim, you nosey bugger! :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on December 28, 2022, 02:44:10 PM
Sooo... I lost my internet banking credentials to a phishing text. I had just woken up from a nap so no red flags arose until just after I had given my info to a surprisingly convincing looking site. Thankfully we got the account locked down and the thieves kicked out within 15 minutes so I think I didn't lose anything, but I had to get the new information in person with the bank. With an ID. Unfortunately, my passport had gone old few years ago and I had to order a new one at the police station... which took eight days to arrive. I got the notice of its arrival an hour before the station closes and didn't see it before it was too late, so I got the next day... December 23rd. Of course, the bank had closed for the holidays that day. Now today I finally got new login information, and the first thing it asks me to do is to change my password. Unfortunately, I think I didn't pay attention to my keystrokes and probably typed in a different number that I wanted (also the user number is complicated, but I think I typed it in right). I try a few times and now my account is locked until tomorrow.

 :censored :censored :censored :censored

Thankfully I have some savings in cash so I've been able to make do and I spend the Christmas at my mom's, but it's never really fun times when you have to open the ole jam jar. Mostly I'm just kicking myself for being an eedjit.

That's some pretty shyte password management (on the bank, not you) to not have 2 password entry fields validating them precisely so you don't run into that problem.

And yeah.. stick around a bit more often, eh!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on January 04, 2023, 08:56:13 AM
After three and a half years, my relationship is over. I’ve never been this heartbroken. She was my everything, the absolute love of my life, and now that’s all gone.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on January 04, 2023, 09:10:32 AM
After three and a half years, my relationship is over. I’ve never been this heartbroken. She was my everything, the absolute love of my life, and now that’s all gone.

I know it seems like there’s a mountain in front of you but you will get through this. And you will be OK.
 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Phoenix87x on January 04, 2023, 10:13:25 AM
Breakups are devastating. I am sorry to hear that you are going through that Count.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: cramx3 on January 04, 2023, 11:05:05 AM
After three and a half years, my relationship is over. I’ve never been this heartbroken. She was my everything, the absolute love of my life, and now that’s all gone.

Sorry to read this, I remember you speaking about how happy you were with her before.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on January 04, 2023, 01:34:34 PM
After three and a half years, my relationship is over. I’ve never been this heartbroken. She was my everything, the absolute love of my life, and now that’s all gone.

Sorry to read this, I remember you speaking about how happy you were with her before.

Everything just kind of fell apart this past year. Through all of it though we never fell out of love with each other which just makes it so much harder.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on January 04, 2023, 02:35:11 PM
After three and a half years, my relationship is over. I’ve never been this heartbroken. She was my everything, the absolute love of my life, and now that’s all gone.

Sorry to read this, I remember you speaking about how happy you were with her before.

Everything just kind of fell apart this past year. Through all of it though we never fell out of love with each other which just makes it so much harder.

Sorry to be so forward, but why did she break up with you then?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on January 04, 2023, 03:22:40 PM
After three and a half years, my relationship is over. I’ve never been this heartbroken. She was my everything, the absolute love of my life, and now that’s all gone.

Sorry to read this, I remember you speaking about how happy you were with her before.

Everything just kind of fell apart this past year. Through all of it though we never fell out of love with each other which just makes it so much harder.

Sorry to be so forward, but why did she break up with you then?

Right now her career is taking off which requires constant travel, and she just can’t give me the time that I need from her.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on January 04, 2023, 04:03:25 PM
After three and a half years, my relationship is over. I’ve never been this heartbroken. She was my everything, the absolute love of my life, and now that’s all gone.

Sorry to read this, I remember you speaking about how happy you were with her before.

Everything just kind of fell apart this past year. Through all of it though we never fell out of love with each other which just makes it so much harder.

Sorry to be so forward, but why did she break up with you then?

Right now her career is taking off which requires constant travel, and she just can’t give me the time that I need from her.

So you called it off mate?  You haven't tried to make something work?  If she were the love of my life, I'd sure as hell try and make a situation like this work?  Or you have already?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on January 05, 2023, 02:55:11 AM
After three and a half years, my relationship is over. I’ve never been this heartbroken. She was my everything, the absolute love of my life, and now that’s all gone.

Sorry to read this, I remember you speaking about how happy you were with her before.

Everything just kind of fell apart this past year. Through all of it though we never fell out of love with each other which just makes it so much harder.

Sorry to be so forward, but why did she break up with you then?

Right now her career is taking off which requires constant travel, and she just can’t give me the time that I need from her.

So you called it off mate?  You haven't tried to make something work?  If she were the love of my life, I'd sure as hell try and make a situation like this work?  Or you have already?

She called it off. I wanted to make it work but she felt like she was hurting me and she realized she wasn’t willing to make compromises or sacrifices for my happiness the way I was for hers.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on January 05, 2023, 09:29:53 AM
This is going to sound cynical, but it is not in any way. She did you a favor. There was no room in her life for you and she wasn’t going to string you along. I know it sounds shitty but you will get through it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on January 05, 2023, 10:08:01 AM
This is going to sound cynical, but it is not in any way. She did you a favor. There was no room in her life for you and she wasn’t going to string you along. I know it sounds shitty but you will get through it.

I didn't know how to say it, but that was my first thought as well.  It's always a red flag when someone says they are making a decision for me in that way ("she felt like she was hurting me") but however she phrased it, if she felt the work was more important than the relationship, as hard as that is to swallow, you have to and move on as best you can.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on January 05, 2023, 10:42:38 AM
I suppose it's likely better to kill the relationship quickly, rather than slowly deteriorate over time.  I get the sense you may have gone thru more pain, and anger, and frustration, and hurt, and resentment, and and and and if it was allowed to continue on.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on January 05, 2023, 10:51:11 AM
All you guys have said what's true but in that moment,  it doesn't matter. Years later when in another relationship you'll thank that it ended quicker.

Right now, just don't shut down to friends. You need them in your life.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: cramx3 on January 05, 2023, 11:51:09 AM
Yeah, I think you guys all are likely making the correct point in that her letting you go was probably the right move if she wasn't willing to work with you, but in the moment, today, it's not going to make you feel any better.  Only time will do that.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on January 05, 2023, 02:35:01 PM
I think all points here are correct.  What Tim, Bill and Chad say is unfortunately correct. The whole 'she did it for me' kind of thinking is the biggest red flag out there I agree, but as Joe and Marc said also, right now, none of that would matter, the devastation would just be too overbearing, and clarity will only come in due time.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on January 05, 2023, 02:56:52 PM
I think all points here are correct.  What Tim, Bill and Chad say is unfortunately correct. The whole 'she did it for me' kind of thinking is the biggest red flag out there I agree, but as Joe and Marc said also, right now, none of that would matter, the devastation would just be too overbearing, and clarity will only come in due time.

Or metal :2metal:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on January 05, 2023, 03:12:30 PM
This is going to sound cynical, but it is not in any way. She did you a favor. There was no room in her life for you and she wasn’t going to string you along. I know it sounds shitty but you will get through it.

Perfectly said Tim! When my last girlfriend before my wife and I broke up because she fell out of love, I literally couldn't breathe let alone sleep eat or function. It truly felt like my world ended... it took a while of soul searching and practicing self love and care that I finally realized how that relationship served a purpose to my growth, I refer to it as collateral beauty. I learned from the pain and the overall experience that I didn't need anyone but myself and when I was ok with that, eventually I met someone that I fell in love with, not needed, there is a difference.... and we now have been together 30 years with 3 amazing kids. Its true, you can't see it now but you will, please trust that.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: cramx3 on January 05, 2023, 03:22:40 PM
This is going to sound cynical, but it is not in any way. She did you a favor. There was no room in her life for you and she wasn’t going to string you along. I know it sounds shitty but you will get through it.

Perfectly said Tim! When my last girlfriend before my wife and I broke up because she fell out of love, I literally couldn't breathe let alone sleep eat or function. It truly felt like my world ended... it took a while of soul searching and practicing self love and care that I finally realized how that relationship served a purpose to my growth, I refer to it as collateral beauty. I learned from the pain and the overall experience that I didn't need anyone but myself and when I was ok with that, eventually I met someone I truly loved, not needed, and we now have been together 30 years with 3 amazing kids. Its true, you can't see it now but you will, please trust that.

I went through a similar experience in May 2019 when a girl I loved broke up with me and am now in a much better relationship.  It'll take time, but you'll get through it and in the end, you'll find the right one.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on January 05, 2023, 03:38:38 PM
This is going to sound cynical, but it is not in any way. She did you a favor. There was no room in her life for you and she wasn’t going to string you along. I know it sounds shitty but you will get through it.

Perfectly said Tim! When my last girlfriend before my wife and I broke up because she fell out of love, I literally couldn't breathe let alone sleep eat or function. It truly felt like my world ended... it took a while of soul searching and practicing self love and care that I finally realized how that relationship served a purpose to my growth, I refer to it as collateral beauty. I learned from the pain and the overall experience that I didn't need anyone but myself and when I was ok with that, eventually I met someone I truly loved, not needed, and we now have been together 30 years with 3 amazing kids. Its true, you can't see it now but you will, please trust that.

Tom, reread that bolded part back to yourself.  :)


Been through it as well. 10 years, got married, and was told out of the blue that she didn't know if she wanted to be married anymore. And it wasn't even my idea to get married! :lol

Still, it was a world turned upside down event. All I knew and related to was tied into that relationship. The challenge was how to extricate my own experiences in my own life during that time together and make them stand on their own. It really helped the healing process.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on January 05, 2023, 03:44:09 PM
Tim the bold part means its nice be with someone you want to be with, not "need" meaning be codependent. Its true means what YOU wrote is true. What am I missing?

edit! I met someone I truly loved? Lol. Ok ill fix it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on January 05, 2023, 03:47:15 PM
This is going to sound cynical, but it is not in any way. She did you a favor. There was no room in her life for you and she wasn’t going to string you along. I know it sounds shitty but you will get through it.

Perfectly said Tim! When my last girlfriend before my wife and I broke up because she fell out of love, I literally couldn't breathe let alone sleep eat or function. It truly felt like my world ended... it took a while of soul searching and practicing self love and care that I finally realized how that relationship served a purpose to my growth, I refer to it as collateral beauty. I learned from the pain and the overall experience that I didn't need anyone but myself and when I was ok with that, eventually I met someone that I fell in love with, not needed, thete is a difference....and we now have been together 30 years with 3 amazing kids. Its true, you can't see it now but you will, please trust that.

Tom, reread that bolded part back to yourself.  :)


Been through it as well. 10 years, got married, and was told out of the blue that she didn't know if she wanted to be married anymore. And it wasn't even my idea to get married! :lol

Still, it was a world turned upside down event. All I knew and related to was tied into that relationship. The challenge was how to extricate my own experiences in my own life during that time together and make them stand on their own. It really helped the healing process.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on January 05, 2023, 03:52:06 PM
Never mind. PM sent. I'm old and senile. :lol
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on January 05, 2023, 04:28:30 PM
I was reading that looking for a nugget too lol.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on July 16, 2023, 03:45:21 PM
Pain hits like a ton of bricks. Finding out the girl who broke your heart, the girl you still love with all of your heart, has moved on to someone else, it really fucks you up. I’ve been trying to power through it, I have to with my job and band duties, but even when I’m around my friends and family, I feel so alone. I’ve started to veer towards my self-destructive tendencies, and my job is the only thing keeping me from going completely off the rails. Nothing has been able to fill the void she left, and I see the downward spiral on the horizon.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on July 16, 2023, 04:14:05 PM
Pain hits like a ton of bricks. Finding out the girl who broke your heart, the girl you still love with all of your heart, has moved on to someone else, it really fucks you up. I’ve been trying to power through it, I have to with my job and band duties, but even when I’m around my friends and family, I feel so alone. I’ve started to veer towards my self-destructive tendencies, and my job is the only thing keeping me from going completely off the rails. Nothing has been able to fill the void she left, and I see the downward spiral on the horizon.

Go talk to someone, please. 

There's nothing I'm going to say that's not going to make me sound like a big(ger) dick, but suffice to say that the spiral is NOT inevitable. It's just not.  Get the help you need to move past this. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on July 16, 2023, 04:15:38 PM
Pain hits like a ton of bricks. Finding out the girl who broke your heart, the girl you still love with all of your heart, has moved on to someone else, it really fucks you up. I’ve been trying to power through it, I have to with my job and band duties, but even when I’m around my friends and family, I feel so alone. I’ve started to veer towards my self-destructive tendencies, and my job is the only thing keeping me from going completely off the rails. Nothing has been able to fill the void she left, and I see the downward spiral on the horizon.

Go talk to someone, please. 

There's nothing I'm going to say that's not going to make me sound like a big(ger) dick, but suffice to say that the spiral is NOT inevitable. It's just not.  Get the help you need to move past this.

I didn't know how to say it without also sounding like a dick, but you pretty much summed it up.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on July 16, 2023, 04:25:26 PM
Pain hits like a ton of bricks. Finding out the girl who broke your heart, the girl you still love with all of your heart, has moved on to someone else, it really fucks you up. I’ve been trying to power through it, I have to with my job and band duties, but even when I’m around my friends and family, I feel so alone. I’ve started to veer towards my self-destructive tendencies, and my job is the only thing keeping me from going completely off the rails. Nothing has been able to fill the void she left, and I see the downward spiral on the horizon.

Seems like you're kind of enabling yourself to be like this mate. I'm sorry to say.  You obviously are self aware and no doubt are in a lot of pain, but looking for an easy out in a 'downward spiral' doesn't help you at all.  As Stadler said, go talk to someone.

She obviously doesn't give two fucks about you and has moved on, you have to do the same thing, you just have to.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: WilliamMunny on July 16, 2023, 04:30:08 PM
Pain hits like a ton of bricks. Finding out the girl who broke your heart, the girl you still love with all of your heart, has moved on to someone else, it really fucks you up. I’ve been trying to power through it, I have to with my job and band duties, but even when I’m around my friends and family, I feel so alone. I’ve started to veer towards my self-destructive tendencies, and my job is the only thing keeping me from going completely off the rails. Nothing has been able to fill the void she left, and I see the downward spiral on the horizon.

Living well is the best revenge, my friend.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Harmony on July 16, 2023, 04:48:57 PM
Pain hits like a ton of bricks. Finding out the girl who broke your heart, the girl you still love with all of your heart, has moved on to someone else, it really fucks you up. I’ve been trying to power through it, I have to with my job and band duties, but even when I’m around my friends and family, I feel so alone. I’ve started to veer towards my self-destructive tendencies, and my job is the only thing keeping me from going completely off the rails. Nothing has been able to fill the void she left, and I see the downward spiral on the horizon.

Living well is the best revenge, my friend.

This ^^

Look, not one person on this thread hasn't been there.  It feels like a freight train slamming into your chest over and over again.  I get it.  And I'm so sorry you are hurting right now.  It must seem like how you are feeling today will never end.

But it will.  Only if you don't take stupid chances or do something you'll never be able to walk back.

I promise, it will.  One day at a time.  Put the work into YOURSELF.  Time will continue on whether or not you give up or get up.  Six months from now you could be in a place 180 degrees from where you are right now.  But you won't know if you don't work toward it.

And yeah, talking to someone can help a lot.  There is no shame in that either.  Asking for help is a strength.  You've done it here with this post.  Keep doing it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on July 16, 2023, 04:55:01 PM
Yeah, my first real love cheated on me and absolutely destroyed me.  I was gutted and too thought the world was ending.  I couldn't believe it and I thought I loved this girl so much, I didn't think I'd ever move past it or be able to find someone else. 

You do get past it and now I just look back at all of that and laugh at myself for being such a soft ass bitch about it all.  She can fuck off too, wherever the fuck she is.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on July 16, 2023, 05:48:32 PM
Pain hits like a ton of bricks. Finding out the girl who broke your heart, the girl you still love with all of your heart, has moved on to someone else, it really fucks you up. I’ve been trying to power through it, I have to with my job and band duties, but even when I’m around my friends and family, I feel so alone. I’ve started to veer towards my self-destructive tendencies, and my job is the only thing keeping me from going completely off the rails. Nothing has been able to fill the void she left, and I see the downward spiral on the horizon.

Posting this here is a positive thing,  it means deep down whether you know it or not you do want to fight through this so you have already taken the first step. Yes, I've been there, its unbearable and nauseating but IT WILL pass, you can't put a time on it but it will. Everyone on this forum are truly kind people and genuinely care. Good music brings good people together and man if you are in that much pain message me and I will be there to listen, if you want to actually speak to me you got it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on July 16, 2023, 06:03:10 PM
Pain hits like a ton of bricks. Finding out the girl who broke your heart, the girl you still love with all of your heart, has moved on to someone else, it really fucks you up. I’ve been trying to power through it, I have to with my job and band duties, but even when I’m around my friends and family, I feel so alone. I’ve started to veer towards my self-destructive tendencies, and my job is the only thing keeping me from going completely off the rails. Nothing has been able to fill the void she left, and I see the downward spiral on the horizon.

Posting this here is a positive thing,  it means deep down whether you know it or not you do want to fight through this so you have already taken the first step. Yes, I've been there, its unbearable and nauseating but IT WILL pass, you can't put a time on it but it will. Everyone on this forum are truly kind people and genuinely care. Good music brings good people together and man if you are in that much pain message me and I will be there to listen, if you want to actually speak to me you got it.

Says the man with the Pizza Death avatar!  ;D
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on July 16, 2023, 06:13:51 PM
Pain hits like a ton of bricks. Finding out the girl who broke your heart, the girl you still love with all of your heart, has moved on to someone else, it really fucks you up. I’ve been trying to power through it, I have to with my job and band duties, but even when I’m around my friends and family, I feel so alone. I’ve started to veer towards my self-destructive tendencies, and my job is the only thing keeping me from going completely off the rails. Nothing has been able to fill the void she left, and I see the downward spiral on the horizon.

Find the next good thing and latch onto it. Seek out the good and positive. Time heals. And things can and do get better, though it doesn't seem like it when you are in the darkness. Don't make self-fulfilling prophecies.

I speak from my own experience. You don't have to let the turmoil take you in.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on September 11, 2023, 09:20:58 AM
Depression just sucks.  I've been in a really bad place for about a month now (while being off and on for a year and a half), and having trouble finding the will, desire, and motivation to get out of it.  I was just about at a point of being 'good', then shit just comes crashing down... like a two ton heavy thing.

  :-\
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Evermind on September 11, 2023, 11:21:56 AM
Depression just sucks.  I've been in a really bad place for about a month now (while being off and on for a year and a half), and having trouble finding the will, desire, and motivation to get out of it.  I was just about at a point of being 'good', then shit just comes crashing down... like a two ton heavy thing.

  :-\

:heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on September 11, 2023, 12:21:00 PM
Depression just sucks.  I've been in a really bad place for about a month now (while being off and on for a year and a half), and having trouble finding the will, desire, and motivation to get out of it.  I was just about at a point of being 'good', then shit just comes crashing down... like a two ton heavy thing.

  :-\

Hugs man!  :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ProfessorPeart on September 11, 2023, 07:28:28 PM
I watch my wife go through this all the time. Wouldn't wish it on anyone.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cool Chris on September 11, 2023, 07:50:10 PM
We're here for you buddy.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on September 11, 2023, 08:22:16 PM
Depression just sucks.  I've been in a really bad place for about a month now (while being off and on for a year and a half), and having trouble finding the will, desire, and motivation to get out of it.  I was just about at a point of being 'good', then shit just comes crashing down... like a two ton heavy thing.

  :-\

Bald awesome dude to bald awesome dude, reach out.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on September 12, 2023, 07:03:24 AM
I'm really sorry jingle, lots of :heart: going out to you. As Chris said we're here for you.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on September 15, 2023, 05:23:30 PM
Durring our vacation my wife felt a lump on her breast. We went in for an ultrasound.   Hoping it's a cyst.

We've had all we can this year already.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on September 15, 2023, 06:54:18 PM
Keeping all my fingers crossed too King
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on September 15, 2023, 06:58:34 PM
Durring our vacation my wife felt a lump on her breast. We went in for an ultrasound.   Hoping it's a cyst.

We've had all we can this year already.

I’m not a praying man but I’m hoping for her. You both deserve only the best life.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on September 15, 2023, 07:02:20 PM
Thank you guys. We are staying positive.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cool Chris on September 15, 2023, 07:43:51 PM
Good thing you were able to get it checked out right away.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 15, 2023, 08:03:26 PM
Praying for you King.


I am feeling so down today. Overwhelmed by everything. I want to shut down and I can't because I have two little kids who love me and need me. I was going to type more but I am too tired.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on September 16, 2023, 04:57:17 AM
Durring our vacation my wife felt a lump on her breast. We went in for an ultrasound.   Hoping it's a cyst.

We've had all we can this year already.

Wishing a positive outcome for you both mate.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on September 16, 2023, 06:45:29 PM
Durring our vacation my wife felt a lump on her breast. We went in for an ultrasound.   Hoping it's a cyst.

We've had all we can this year already.

Much love and positive vibes to you both!  :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on September 16, 2023, 07:13:27 PM
Thank you. We are trying to be positive. I'm glad my wife is proactive.  We went through lymphoma with me when I was 30 for 2 years. I hope my strong wife doesn't have to go through it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 16, 2023, 07:19:43 PM
I am so glad you survived, dude.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on September 16, 2023, 07:27:52 PM
The stories I could tell you. I fought to stay positive.   The support from family and friends is something I'll never forget. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 16, 2023, 07:48:11 PM
Don't worry, 2010 is the shittiest year in the history of the world.

About 10 years off.

(I don't know why I was going back and reading old posts, but here we are)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DragonAttack on September 17, 2023, 04:00:14 AM
Count…agree regarding counseling. And start writing a daily journal. I did it eons ago, and it really helped. Do it old school with pen and paper.

I read your Jets MNF recap. There are those moments to keep one going 👍
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on September 17, 2023, 04:34:02 AM
Thank you. We are trying to be positive. I'm glad my wife is proactive.  We went through lymphoma with me when I was 30 for 2 years. I hope my strong wife doesn't have to go through it.

This is the sort of shit one needs to read and remember when they think they have it rough when something small and insignificant occurs in their day, myself included.  Much respect and love mate!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on September 17, 2023, 02:27:41 PM
Count…agree regarding counseling. And start writing a daily journal. I did it eons ago, and it really helped. Do it old school with pen and paper.

I read your Jets MNF recap. There are those moments to keep one going 👍

Thank you. I’ve been trying to lean on the things I love through all of this. It certainly helps.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on September 18, 2023, 09:55:01 AM
Thank you guys. We are staying positive.

We're going through this too.   :heart to you both.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: cramx3 on September 18, 2023, 02:57:55 PM
Depression just sucks.  I've been in a really bad place for about a month now (while being off and on for a year and a half), and having trouble finding the will, desire, and motivation to get out of it.  I was just about at a point of being 'good', then shit just comes crashing down... like a two ton heavy thing.

  :-\

Damn, sorry to hear this.  Hope things come around for you, and as others have stated, we are here for you as well.  Feel free to reach out.

Durring our vacation my wife felt a lump on her breast. We went in for an ultrasound.   Hoping it's a cyst.

We've had all we can this year already.

Oh man, you really have had a terrible year.  Stay positive, which I'm sure is like almost impossible, but you've been strong through all of this year's challenges.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on September 25, 2023, 09:14:23 AM
This year can go to hell.  1st, my dad passes away.  Then both my brother's family and mine had to put our cats down a month after dad passed. 

Now, my wife has been diagnosed with breast cancer.  We can't catch a break.  I think we caught it early.  We'll know more Thursday after our consult.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on September 25, 2023, 09:18:22 AM
 :heart :heart :heart Hoping it's early and can be taken care of.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: cramx3 on September 25, 2023, 09:27:22 AM
The Queen will be in our thoughts.  Hope for a quick recovery.  There's only a few more months this year.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on September 25, 2023, 10:35:04 AM
I agree that this year can go and fuck right the hell off. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on September 25, 2023, 12:30:43 PM
I agree that this year can go and fuck right the hell off.

Agreed but can't we say that about the 3 before it? And is 2024 going to be a glorious highlight reel of excellence? ...... Shits just getting worse.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on September 25, 2023, 12:41:14 PM
This year can go to hell.  1st, my dad passes away.  Then both my brother's family and mine had to put our cats down a month after dad passed. 

Now, my wife has been diagnosed with breast cancer.  We can't catch a break.  I think we caught it early.  We'll know more Thursday after our consult.

Thinking about you both, brother.  Peace.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on September 25, 2023, 01:47:05 PM
This year can go to hell.  1st, my dad passes away.  Then both my brother's family and mine had to put our cats down a month after dad passed. 

Now, my wife has been diagnosed with breast cancer.  We can't catch a break.  I think we caught it early.  We'll know more Thursday after our consult.

Praying for you both mate.  :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on September 25, 2023, 02:21:27 PM
This year can go to hell.  1st, my dad passes away.  Then both my brother's family and mine had to put our cats down a month after dad passed. 

Now, my wife has been diagnosed with breast cancer.  We can't catch a break.  I think we caught it early.  We'll know more Thursday after our consult.

Thinking about you and the Queen. Glad youbdidnt wait around to get it checked out :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DragonAttack on September 25, 2023, 06:02:38 PM
When Mrs. DA had her lymph node test last year, the waiting period was excruciating.

Hang on in there, Joe :tup
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on September 25, 2023, 06:20:10 PM
Thank you. We're being positive. A good thing is they scaned Lisa's armpit because she felt pain which is  sign that it's affecting thr lympnodes but the scan found nothing.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on September 25, 2023, 07:21:57 PM
Guess what I tested positive for today?  >:( :censored
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on September 25, 2023, 07:25:02 PM
Guess what I tested positive for today?  >:( :censored

Hairy hands?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Adami on September 25, 2023, 07:25:09 PM
Guess what I tested positive for today?  >:( :censored

A can-do attitude?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on September 25, 2023, 07:32:08 PM
Besides those. I thought my allergies were really bad but its Covid. Good times.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on September 25, 2023, 07:37:34 PM
Besides those. I thought my allergies were really bad but its Covid. Good times.

Got the sniffles or are you feeling sick?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on September 25, 2023, 07:39:06 PM
Last year at this time I caught it as well.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on September 25, 2023, 07:40:49 PM
Besides those. I thought my allergies were really bad but its Covid. Good times.

Got the sniffles or are you feeling sick?

Sniffles, sneezing, cough, raspy throat. (I'm a NyQuil advertisement).
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DragonAttack on September 25, 2023, 10:40:50 PM
Last year at this time I caught it as well.

Hairy hands, too!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on September 26, 2023, 03:18:41 AM
Last year at this time I caught it as well.

Hairy hands, too!

Oh hell yes!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on September 26, 2023, 03:21:53 AM
Is hairy hands a contagious disease?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on September 26, 2023, 03:22:18 AM
Seriously though, feel better quick Tom.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: DragonAttack on September 26, 2023, 07:42:50 AM
^
I should have included this along with my little joke above.

I also hope the rest of the family is OK.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ProfessorPeart on September 26, 2023, 10:38:21 AM
This year can go to hell.  1st, my dad passes away.  Then both my brother's family and mine had to put our cats down a month after dad passed. 

Now, my wife has been diagnosed with breast cancer.  We can't catch a break.  I think we caught it early.  We'll know more Thursday after our consult.

After spending the past year plus watching my wife go through hell with all of her lung issues, I wouldn't wish anyone see their spouse go through stuff like that. I legit thought I might lose her at some point. We've been together 24 years now.

Definitely thinking about you and hoping for the best.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on September 26, 2023, 12:52:26 PM
Seriously though, feel better quick Tom.

Thanks Kade.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on September 26, 2023, 12:53:24 PM
^
I should have included this along with my little joke above.

I also hope the rest of the family is OK.

Thanks! So far everyone else is ok. Been keeping distance best I can.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Lonk on September 26, 2023, 12:58:21 PM
This year can go to hell.  1st, my dad passes away.  Then both my brother's family and mine had to put our cats down a month after dad passed. 

Now, my wife has been diagnosed with breast cancer.  We can't catch a break.  I think we caught it early.  We'll know more Thursday after our consult.
Hoping it was caught early and it can be removed.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on September 26, 2023, 01:01:04 PM
This year can go to hell.  1st, my dad passes away.  Then both my brother's family and mine had to put our cats down a month after dad passed. 

Now, my wife has been diagnosed with breast cancer.  We can't catch a break.  I think we caught it early.  We'll know more Thursday after our consult.

That's awful. I'm sorry to hear all of this.  :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: XJDenton on September 26, 2023, 02:51:20 PM
This year can go to hell.  1st, my dad passes away.  Then both my brother's family and mine had to put our cats down a month after dad passed. 

Now, my wife has been diagnosed with breast cancer.  We can't catch a break.  I think we caught it early.  We'll know more Thursday after our consult.

Sending love, mate.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on October 13, 2023, 01:30:13 PM
Feeling very off emotionally lately, not good at all. Questioning my purpose, what's left for me, and shit like that. I basically lost my entire family in the last few years. Everything seems so hollow and gray. I really need to dig deep because this isn't going away. Its all on me to figure it out and its not happening. I may need to make some major changes and let go of a lot.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on October 13, 2023, 01:48:39 PM
Feeling very off emotionally lately, not good at all. Questioning my purpose, what's left for me, and shit like that. I basically lost my entire family in the last few years. Everything seems so hollow and gray. I really need to dig deep because this isn't going away. Its all on me to figure it out and its not happening. I may need to make some major changes and let go of a lot.

Well, if it means anything, you've been a great addition to the DTF roster. Personally, I'm thankful you joined.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on October 13, 2023, 04:20:22 PM
Feeling very off emotionally lately, not good at all. Questioning my purpose, what's left for me, and shit like that. I basically lost my entire family in the last few years. Everything seems so hollow and gray. I really need to dig deep because this isn't going away. Its all on me to figure it out and its not happening. I may need to make some major changes and let go of a lot.

I highly recommend therapy. It doesn't fix all the shit, it helps you sort it out and see what you can do.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on October 14, 2023, 01:35:21 AM
Feeling very off emotionally lately, not good at all. Questioning my purpose, what's left for me, and shit like that. I basically lost my entire family in the last few years. Everything seems so hollow and gray. I really need to dig deep because this isn't going away. Its all on me to figure it out and its not happening. I may need to make some major changes and let go of a lot.

Well, if it means anything, you've been a great addition to the DTF roster. Personally, I'm thankful you joined.

Thanks Tim, I feel the same. Just going through it.  :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on October 14, 2023, 01:44:33 AM
Feeling very off emotionally lately, not good at all. Questioning my purpose, what's left for me, and shit like that. I basically lost my entire family in the last few years. Everything seems so hollow and gray. I really need to dig deep because this isn't going away. Its all on me to figure it out and its not happening. I may need to make some major changes and let go of a lot.

I highly recommend therapy. It doesn't fix all the shit, it helps you sort it out and see what you can do.

I've been and it makes a difference but some things overwhelm and the holidays are approaching. My dad was diagnosed with glioblastoma (brain cancer) on Christmas Day 2018 and passed right after the following Christmas. Some triggers are tough. Then last Mothers Day I lost my mom and then my family just fell apart. My brother and I haven't spoken since my dad passed and we grew up close. Sorry for the rambling, its just painful.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on October 14, 2023, 02:38:14 AM
Feeling very off emotionally lately, not good at all. Questioning my purpose, what's left for me, and shit like that. I basically lost my entire family in the last few years. Everything seems so hollow and gray. I really need to dig deep because this isn't going away. Its all on me to figure it out and its not happening. I may need to make some major changes and let go of a lot.

I highly recommend therapy. It doesn't fix all the shit, it helps you sort it out and see what you can do.

I've been and it makes a difference but some things overwhelm and the holidays are approaching. My dad was diagnosed with glioblastoma (brain cancer) on Christmas Day 2018 and passed right after the following Christmas. Some triggers are tough. Then last Mothers Day I lost my mom and then my family just fell apart. My brother and I haven't spoken since my dad passed and we grew up close. Sorry for the rambling, its just painful.

Not much I can say man but I echo Tim's sentiments 100%, you're welcome in our little family here.

I can't recommend anything in your situation with your family but is it worth reaching out to your brother, or is the relationship beyond repair?

I can't talk, I only really have contact with my siblings through my mother, not sure what happens when her time comes. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on October 14, 2023, 04:38:20 AM
You always have an outlet here to vent. We are here for you, Glasser.  Never forget that.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on October 14, 2023, 06:07:39 AM
You always have an outlet here to vent. We are here for you, Glasser.  Never forget that.

Second this, 100%.  We're family.

And don't give up on the therapy yet, please.  I know you have to be into it for it to work, but if you get a good one, a professional, they can help you through.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on October 14, 2023, 06:41:53 AM
Feeling very off emotionally lately, not good at all. Questioning my purpose, what's left for me, and shit like that. I basically lost my entire family in the last few years. Everything seems so hollow and gray. I really need to dig deep because this isn't going away. Its all on me to figure it out and its not happening. I may need to make some major changes and let go of a lot.

I highly recommend therapy. It doesn't fix all the shit, it helps you sort it out and see what you can do.

I've been and it makes a difference but some things overwhelm and the holidays are approaching. My dad was diagnosed with glioblastoma (brain cancer) on Christmas Day 2018 and passed right after the following Christmas. Some triggers are tough. Then last Mothers Day I lost my mom and then my family just fell apart. My brother and I haven't spoken since my dad passed and we grew up close. Sorry for the rambling, its just painful.

Not much I can say man but I echo Tim's sentiments 100%, you're welcome in our little family here.

I can't recommend anything in your situation with your family but is it worth reaching out to your brother, or is the relationship beyond repair?

I can't talk, I only really have contact with my siblings through my mother, not sure what happens when her time comes.

This could have been me posting.  My and my brother's relationship is non-existent - the only contact we've had over the past 6 years was around my father's passing, and I fully expect the next (and last) contact will be when it's my mother's time.  It's sad, but (and I know not everyone subscribe's to this belief), blood alone doesn't make people family.  I wouldn't tolerate any random person treating me the way my brother has over the past 25 years (don't want to go in to it, just trust me), so why should I tolerate that just because the person is a blood relative.  Boundaries exist and apply to everyone, imo.  I'm happy for all the people in the world that have the kind of relationship that Joe and his brother do, that family is always 'there' when you need them to be ... but not everyone has family like that.

So, Tom... you're a member and part of the DTF family for sure, and I'm glad af to have you around.  As more than a few DTF'rs know, I've shared more than my fair share of struggles over the years.  Pretty much any one of us would do and be the same for you.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on October 14, 2023, 01:28:59 PM
That sucks Chad.  It is hard when you see how some brothers are 'brothers' through thick and thin yet others are strangers.  Thing is, me and my brother are just two very different people.  We are like chalk and cheese.  We had one falling out yeaes ago but the whole problem is how different we are.  And truthfully I can't tolerate his mindset, blaming everyone else in the world except himself for his problems.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on October 14, 2023, 03:22:33 PM
Thank you ALL! I DO feel a trusted and respected connection here. Unfortunately the relationship with my brother was completely shattered, he literally traumatized me and as Chad said, blood or not, I have ZERO tolerance for abuse ( Chad I'm so sorry you went through this). I'm blessed to have an amazing wife and kids but outside of them my family is obliterated. Sadly I cannot stand my mother in law so I literally feel like  a man without a country. You guys DO make a difference and I thank you for that.  :heart :metal
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on October 16, 2023, 08:12:26 AM
Thank you ALL! I DO feel a trusted and respected connection here. Unfortunately the relationship with my brother was completely shattered, he literally traumatized me and as Chad said, blood or not, I have ZERO tolerance for abuse ( Chad I'm so sorry you went through this). I'm blessed to have an amazing wife and kids but outside of them my family is obliterated. Sadly I cannot stand my mother in law so I literally feel like  a man without a country. You guys DO make a difference and I thank you for that.  :heart :metal

Does anyone? 

I kid! I kid! My current MiL is excellent and I love her.  Not so much my previous one.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: WilliamMunny on October 16, 2023, 12:43:32 PM
Thank you ALL! I DO feel a trusted and respected connection here. Unfortunately the relationship with my brother was completely shattered, he literally traumatized me and as Chad said, blood or not, I have ZERO tolerance for abuse ( Chad I'm so sorry you went through this). I'm blessed to have an amazing wife and kids but outside of them my family is obliterated. Sadly I cannot stand my mother in law so I literally feel like  a man without a country. You guys DO make a difference and I thank you for that.  :heart :metal

I SO hear you, my friend.

Nearly 100% of the arguments in marriage are related to the dreadful in-laws... >:(
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on October 16, 2023, 02:09:23 PM
My mother in law to my wife, then my girlfriend that I had the ring. She tried to submarine me. I've never forgave her. At one point, my wife didn't talk to her mom for 10 years.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on October 16, 2023, 08:54:35 PM
Thank you ALL! I DO feel a trusted and respected connection here. Unfortunately the relationship with my brother was completely shattered, he literally traumatized me and as Chad said, blood or not, I have ZERO tolerance for abuse ( Chad I'm so sorry you went through this). I'm blessed to have an amazing wife and kids but outside of them my family is obliterated. Sadly I cannot stand my mother in law so I literally feel like  a man without a country. You guys DO make a difference and I thank you for that.  :heart :metal

I SO hear you, my friend.

Nearly 100% of the arguments in marriage are related to the dreadful in-laws... >:(

To be honest my wife knows exactly how and why I feel the way I do and we don't argue about it, which is rare. I have my reasons which are valid and respected but I just keep my distance which does make some situations awkward but I have zero tolerance for emotional abuse or bullshit drama. Thanks for the reply my friend and I hope you're not dealing with a similar situation. I learned that silence and indifference immediately shuts down all arguing but its not easy.  :)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: SoundscapeMN on November 01, 2023, 10:20:13 PM
I just found out someone I know on Discord just died. I didn't know him too well, but would chat about Kevin Gilbert with him in a small group sometimes.

It's just weird and surreal, as he was chatting in there like 10 days ago.

I guess he died from a Blood Clot, which I actually have a Blood Clot as well, but have managed it with a Blood Thinner for a few years.

I guess he was planning on going to ProgPower next year and everything. He was a musician, has music online of course. Just 39 years old. Unsure if others know him, but he was known as "mantis" in the Discord channel and on some other sites.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on November 02, 2023, 06:54:36 AM
I have over 30 blood clots in my lungs in 2016. I have to take blood thinners the rest of my life.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on November 02, 2023, 11:41:15 AM
I have over 30 blood clots in my lungs in 2016. I have to take blood thinners the rest of my life.

That's absolutely awful!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on November 02, 2023, 12:50:22 PM
Glad I was smart enough to get to a hospital. I got there and there was at least 100 people in thr ER.  I got to the window,  told them I was short of breath and it reminded me of another time I had blood clots.

They rushed me right in.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on November 02, 2023, 02:28:38 PM
I have over 30 blood clots in my lungs in 2016. I have to take blood thinners the rest of my life.

Yikes!!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on November 02, 2023, 06:15:22 PM
I yelled like I have never yelled before at my 4 year old girl. I had a long day at work, then band practice, just overall tired of it all. She was not eating her dinner when I came home, playing around and just wanted Halloween candy instead of dinner. While pouting on the couch, she pushed her little 1 year old brother and he almost smacked his head hard onto the coffee table. I let out a guttural scream of "go to your room" while consoling the boy as he was in hysterics.

Not my best day today, and I am honestly really down about how my life is right now, and it doesn't feel like it's improving anytime soon.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on November 02, 2023, 08:28:50 PM
Oh man. We’ve all had those not so savoury parent moments. Fear of injury to your child can cause that intense anger, coupled with the disappointment that it was your other child that nearly caused it. Been there. I feel for ya James. Don’t beat yourself up too much. It’s a learning moment to move forward from.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on November 02, 2023, 08:32:40 PM
Yeah James, that happens. And it's important to follow up with her to let her know why you got upset.

If it helps, she'll never remember it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cool Chris on November 02, 2023, 08:44:17 PM
And it's important to follow up with her to let her know why you got upset.

Definitely. I found that if I circle back to one of the kids after something like this happens, we usually have a good discussion about everything that happened, and it allows me to explain my mindset at the time, and ask for forgiveness for acting inappropriately, even if what I was doing might not have been completely out of the bounds of parenting.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Grappler on November 02, 2023, 09:57:55 PM
And it's important to follow up with her to let her know why you got upset.

Definitely. I found that if I circle back to one of the kids after something like this happens, we usually have a good discussion about everything that happened, and it allows me to explain my mindset at the time, and ask for forgiveness for acting inappropriately, even if what I was doing might not have been completely out of the bounds of parenting.

We've been working on that.  I am so awesome at that DAD ROAR, but I learned that it actually scares my daughter.  The natural instinct when someone yells is to back away, both physically and emotionally.  I still have my moments when things really go to shit, but talking to her when we've all calmed down works wonders.  She's learned to apologize to us for acting out and we've become better at apologizing to her for reacting harshly. 

I yelled like I have never yelled before at my 4 year old girl. I had a long day at work, then band practice, just overall tired of it all. She was not eating her dinner when I came home, playing around and just wanted Halloween candy instead of dinner. While pouting on the couch, she pushed her little 1 year old brother and he almost smacked his head hard onto the coffee table. I let out a guttural scream of "go to your room" while consoling the boy as he was in hysterics.

Not my best day today, and I am honestly really down about how my life is right now, and it doesn't feel like it's improving anytime soon.

Don't worry about it.  Kids are resilient and will bounce back after a nice talk and a bunch of hugs and kisses.  My kids have been on a candy or nothing kick too and it's been a battle to get them to eat their meals before diving into the candy.  I can't tell you how many mistakes I've made, sometimes on a daily basis, with my kids.  I just remember that tomorrow is another day and it can always be better than the last.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on November 03, 2023, 05:38:44 AM
Thanks guys, your comments are extremely helpful.

I circled back this morning and she was happy to see me. She did say I scared her but she also said she should have eaten her dinner and not pushed her brother. I was surprised that she could say that, I don't recall her being able to reason that sort of stuff out before. All in all, you all are right, we talked about it and she was happy to see me this morning. I will aim to be better at not coming home with nothing to spare.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Podaar on November 03, 2023, 06:47:14 AM
You've received some decent wisdom in this thread, Jamesman. However; as resilient as kids may be, they remember too. For a very long time. Sure, when she's twelve, she may not be able to recall details of why Daddy scares her, only that he does. That it's better to hide things from him or lie to him than to make him yell again.

If this is the only time she gets yelled at, then all the good, gentle, fun moments you have with her could pile up to mostly submerge the fear. Risk avoidance is real, however, and the flight instinct strong. I think all of us would do well to keep these things in mind. It's possible to raise well behaved children without fear and violence.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on November 03, 2023, 07:17:03 AM
Well yeah, I know all of that. I had a bad day and I acknowledged that and apologized to her. I can only move forward and aim to be better. This was a one-off case.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Podaar on November 03, 2023, 07:47:58 AM
Of course you do. I apologize for the tone of my post. It's more a reflection of my own upbringing and should have stayed in my head as private mussings. I don't know when I'm going to learn to not press the post button.

Carry on.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on November 03, 2023, 07:51:51 AM
Of course you do. I apologize for the tone of my post. It's more a reflection of my own upbringing and should have stayed in my head as private mussings. I don't know when I'm going to learn to not press the post button.

Carry on.

More trauma surfacing there??   :lol  :|

Your above comments are fair and wise Gregg, and totally reasonable to post/share (imo).  So long as it's not a recurring thing for anyone, these moments will happen - I'm not sure I know any parent that is immune.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on November 03, 2023, 07:56:19 AM
Of course you do. I apologize for the tone of my post. It's more a reflection of my own upbringing and should have stayed in my head as private mussings. I don't know when I'm going to learn to not press the post button.

Carry on.

No, I appreciate it. Maybe the tone was a little harsh, but I also am extra sensitive on this as well, so that might be me.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on November 10, 2023, 01:35:17 PM
My only brother who I haven't seen or spoken to in 3 years was in a horrific car accident ( at his own peril) and is in pretty bad shape. I love him dearly but what he put me through 3 years ago was so traumatic I haven't been the same. I visited him in the ICU because I wasn't sure he was going to survive and it was awful. He saw me and cried which broke my heart but I am not ready to attempt reconciliation that's how awful my experience was. I'm crushed over this, he's my younger brother but he made a bad choice and this accident was the consequence. I feel like an orphan and it sucks.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2023, 01:46:38 PM
Tom, I'm so sorry to read that, can't imagine how you would be feeling.  I honestly hope he can pull through for you and hopefully a positive can come out of it in the repair of your relationship.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on November 10, 2023, 02:07:09 PM
My only brother who I haven't seen or spoken to in 3 years was in a horrific car accident ( at his own peril) and is in pretty bad shape. I love him dearly but what he put me through 3 years ago was so traumatic I haven't been the same. I visited him in the ICU because I wasn't sure he was going to survive and it was awful. He saw me and cried which broke my heart but I am not ready to attempt reconciliation that's how awful my experience was. I'm crushed over this, he's my younger brother but he made a bad choice and this accident was the consequence. I feel like an orphan and it sucks.

I'm very sorry to read all this..

Obviously I don't know the history, but what I would want to say to you is....be the big brother, whatever that means.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2023, 02:11:33 PM
My only brother who I haven't seen or spoken to in 3 years was in a horrific car accident ( at his own peril) and is in pretty bad shape. I love him dearly but what he put me through 3 years ago was so traumatic I haven't been the same. I visited him in the ICU because I wasn't sure he was going to survive and it was awful. He saw me and cried which broke my heart but I am not ready to attempt reconciliation that's how awful my experience was. I'm crushed over this, he's my younger brother but he made a bad choice and this accident was the consequence. I feel like an orphan and it sucks.

I'm very sorry to read all this..

Obviously I don't know the history, but what I would want to say to you is....be the big brother, whatever that means.

Oh shit, I read that wrong from what Tom wrote.  I was still half asleep I guess.  I read the opposite.

Tom, same, I don't know the history, but these are those moments in life where you need to think, would you be happy with how things are left if for some reason he's not around?  Is it worth it?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on November 10, 2023, 02:44:08 PM
Thank you guys for the love but that's not happening. He has had 5 surgeries over the past week and will "survive". He was .3 blood alcohol with his son in the car who is a minor AND another car was in the accident and the driver suffered major injury. Just going to see him last week took every ounce of my strength. He also was just diagnosed with cirrhosis of the liver. There's major reasons I will not be part of his life. Maybe someday.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on November 10, 2023, 02:47:08 PM
Glasser, I get it. My dad would do cocaine with my brother when my brother was 19. They ruined their lives (and are now both dead) and for me, I had to give a lot of distance between them and myself because I was getting my own life in order. I couldn't imagine trying to reconcile with the trauma you faced.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on November 10, 2023, 03:01:37 PM
Glasser, I get it. My dad would do cocaine with my brother when my brother was 19. They ruined their lives (and are now both dead) and for me, I had to give a lot of distance between them and myself because I was getting my own life in order. I couldn't imagine trying to reconcile with the trauma you faced.

Damn! I'm so sorry to hear that. You said it, I need to focus on myself and my own 4 walls. Losing both parents within 2 years and having extreme fallout with my brother is awful but a crippling toxic relationship is not something I'm willing to be subjected to. Believe me, I wish things were different.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on November 10, 2023, 03:05:55 PM
Glasser, I get it. My dad would do cocaine with my brother when my brother was 19. They ruined their lives (and are now both dead) and for me, I had to give a lot of distance between them and myself because I was getting my own life in order. I couldn't imagine trying to reconcile with the trauma you faced.

Damn! I'm so sorry to hear that. You said it, I need to focus on myself and my own 4 walls. Losing both parents within 2 years and having extreme fallout with my brother is awful but a crippling toxic relationship is not something I'm willing to be subjected to. Believe me, I wish things were different.

It's a tough decision to make, but I do not regret it on my end. Wishing you well!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on November 10, 2023, 03:18:25 PM
Tom, nothing but love, brother. You need to take care of yourself.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on November 10, 2023, 03:39:17 PM
I'm sorry Tom. I do agree with the guys.  Take care of yourself.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2023, 04:27:06 PM
Thank you guys for the love but that's not happening. He has had 5 surgeries over the past week and will "survive". He was .3 blood alcohol with his son in the car who is a minor AND another car was in the accident and the driver suffered major injury. Just going to see him last week took every ounce of my strength. He also was just diagnosed with cirrhosis of the liver. There's major reasons I will not be part of his life. Maybe someday.

Ah, okay, thanks for the info.  Knowing this, this is inexcusable.  I think you have every right to feel the way you do Tom.  If it were my brother, I'd probably wipe him too mate.  I hope his son was okay.  I assume he'd be looking at jail time anyway.

As hard as it is and I know I've posted on here to encourage you Tom but we don't even know a fraction of the situation but based on this, you're making the right call for you I think.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on November 11, 2023, 05:00:13 AM
Boundaries apply to family as well.  Hugs for you, Tom

:hug:
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on November 11, 2023, 10:08:50 AM
Thanks guys. Its sad and awkward.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: lonestar on November 11, 2023, 02:35:59 PM
It's hard, but understandable. Alcoholism makes us do horrible things, and it's possible to love the person while hating the addict. As Chad said, boundaries do apply, and will help keep yourself safe from who he is under the throes of the disease. Just keep hoping he someday will find sobriety for his own sake, trust me as someone who's been there, the hell he's in is way worse than anything you can imagine.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on November 12, 2023, 01:11:11 PM
It's hard, but understandable. Alcoholism makes us do horrible things, and it's possible to love the person while hating the addict. As Chad said, boundaries do apply, and will help keep yourself safe from who he is under the throes of the disease. Just keep hoping he someday will find sobriety for his own sake, trust me as someone who's been there, the hell he's in is way worse than anything you can imagine.
Thanks man! My heart breaks over it but the factors that surround it makes it tough to be part of his life sadly. I love him with all my heart and I hope for him and my nephew's sake that he gets the help.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: naimad on November 13, 2023, 05:11:35 PM
I think I may have an unhealthy relationship with the world. It treated me like shit and I still care for it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2023, 05:57:58 PM
Today I have taken my first sick day in 39 years.  Due to the last two years of a tough working environment which heads into evil and corrupt territory and the results and aftermath of the accident that happened to me plus the culmination of things I've dealt with and things I haven't been given in relation to that, something happened yesterday that left me feeling sick and left me with a very bad feeling. 

My gut was telling me to take drastic measures immediately.  The way I felt yesterday because of this are feelings no one should have to deal with let alone everything over the last 2 years.  It was the hardest decision to call in sick and where I am at the moment, I'm not sure when or if I can go back, but life is too short and precious to endure shit you don't need to endure.

My team and I are so close and I am shattered it has had to come to this.  I'm their leader and have taken so many bullets for them but I think there comes a time no matter what position you are in, you need to take care of yourself.  The last 24 hours has hit me like a ton of bricks and I haven't cried as much in the last 24 hours than I have in the last 24 years.  I feel like I'm letting them all down.

So I sit here, Thursday morning at 11am, years of fucking hard work and sacrifice and now I feel completely lost and needing to start again, not knowing where the fuck to go from here.  The feelings currently are so overwhelming.  Work and my team were my purpose.  I've messaged members of my team to tell them I'm sorry even though I can't tell them what's going on, they are such good kids, I'm like their uncle or something, they all understand and thought I'd be gone long ago, but they are my friends and colleagues.  I'm completely heartbroken right now.  I can't stop the tears.  This is harder than I ever thought it would be and was praying it would never come to this.

Although, since the accident, the last 24 hours I think have shown me and even though I have just gotten back up and gotten back into it, I haven't dealt with a lot of problems since that happened, just kept busy to hide them and still put others before me.  Being selfhish and putting yourself first today feels wrong and foreign.  I don't like it.  Part of me thinks I should go back to my team and deal with the situation, but the other part says no and I don't deserve to have to cop shit when I've been so loyal to them even after everything.

Takes a while to sink in that work and organisations don't give a flying fuck about you.  Luckily, I did it for the people around me, which is the reason why this is so hard.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: WilliamMunny on November 15, 2023, 06:17:32 PM
Today I have taken my first sick day in 39 years.  Due to the last two years of a tough working environment which heads into evil and corrupt territory and the results and aftermath of the accident that happened to me plus the culmination of things I've dealt with and things I haven't been given in relation to that, something happened yesterday that left me feeling sick and left me with a very bad feeling. 

My gut was telling me to take drastic measures immediately.  The way I felt yesterday because of this are feelings no one should have to deal with let alone everything over the last 2 years.  It was the hardest decision to call in sick and where I am at the moment, I'm not sure when or if I can go back, but life is too short and precious to endure shit you don't need to endure.

My team and I are so close and I am shattered it has had to come to this.  I'm their leader and have taken so many bullets for them but I think there comes a time no matter what position you are in, you need to take care of yourself.  The last 24 hours has hit me like a ton of bricks and I haven't cried as much in the last 24 hours than I have in the last 24 years.  I feel like I'm letting them all down.

So I sit here, Thursday morning at 11am, years of fucking hard work and sacrifice and now I feel completely lost and needing to start again, not knowing where the fuck to go from here.  The feelings currently are so overwhelming.  Work and my team were my purpose.  I've messaged members of my team to tell them I'm sorry even though I can't tell them what's going on, they are such good kids, I'm like their uncle or something, they all understand and thought I'd be gone long ago, but they are my friends and colleagues.  I'm completely heartbroken right now.  I can't stop the tears.  This is harder than I ever thought it would be and was praying it would never come to this.

Although, since the accident, the last 24 hours I think have shown me and even though I have just gotten back up and gotten back into it, I haven't dealt with a lot of problems since that happened, just kept busy to hide them and still put others before me.  Being selfhish and putting yourself first today feels wrong and foreign.  I don't like it.  Part of me thinks I should go back to my team and deal with the situation, but the other part says no and I don't deserve to have to cop shit when I've been so loyal to them even after everything.

Takes a while to sink in that work and organisations don't give a flying fuck about you.  Luckily, I did it for the people around me, which is the reason why this is so hard.

Three things:

1: First and foremost, my heart goes out to you. I appreciate the veiled nature of your post, but even without knowing the specifics, the internal conflict and suffering you are going through shines through your words. I've been there (hell, I think I might actually be there), so please know you are not alone in your misery. I know it's a small consolation, but still...

2: I hear you on the 'putting yourself feeling foreign' part. I, and everyone else here could tell you how important it is to look out for number one, but we both know that you can't/won't bc that's not how you are wired. And to be honest, the world needs more people like you. In all my years of working, I can count on one hand the number of people I've worked with who truly put others before themselves. Again, balance is key, but it's nothing to be ashamed of.

3: In all of these years of posting, I (being the huge Winger fan that I am) can't help but feel like I'm talking to Kip Winger when I respond to your posts.  ;D I know you're not Kip (or do I????), but please, for the love of all that is good, never change your avatar!

But, seriously, hope tomorrow is a turn in the right direction.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2023, 06:38:49 PM
Today I have taken my first sick day in 39 years.  Due to the last two years of a tough working environment which heads into evil and corrupt territory and the results and aftermath of the accident that happened to me plus the culmination of things I've dealt with and things I haven't been given in relation to that, something happened yesterday that left me feeling sick and left me with a very bad feeling. 

My gut was telling me to take drastic measures immediately.  The way I felt yesterday because of this are feelings no one should have to deal with let alone everything over the last 2 years.  It was the hardest decision to call in sick and where I am at the moment, I'm not sure when or if I can go back, but life is too short and precious to endure shit you don't need to endure.

My team and I are so close and I am shattered it has had to come to this.  I'm their leader and have taken so many bullets for them but I think there comes a time no matter what position you are in, you need to take care of yourself.  The last 24 hours has hit me like a ton of bricks and I haven't cried as much in the last 24 hours than I have in the last 24 years.  I feel like I'm letting them all down.

So I sit here, Thursday morning at 11am, years of fucking hard work and sacrifice and now I feel completely lost and needing to start again, not knowing where the fuck to go from here.  The feelings currently are so overwhelming.  Work and my team were my purpose.  I've messaged members of my team to tell them I'm sorry even though I can't tell them what's going on, they are such good kids, I'm like their uncle or something, they all understand and thought I'd be gone long ago, but they are my friends and colleagues.  I'm completely heartbroken right now.  I can't stop the tears.  This is harder than I ever thought it would be and was praying it would never come to this.

Although, since the accident, the last 24 hours I think have shown me and even though I have just gotten back up and gotten back into it, I haven't dealt with a lot of problems since that happened, just kept busy to hide them and still put others before me.  Being selfhish and putting yourself first today feels wrong and foreign.  I don't like it.  Part of me thinks I should go back to my team and deal with the situation, but the other part says no and I don't deserve to have to cop shit when I've been so loyal to them even after everything.

Takes a while to sink in that work and organisations don't give a flying fuck about you.  Luckily, I did it for the people around me, which is the reason why this is so hard.

Three things:

1: First and foremost, my heart goes out to you. I appreciate the veiled nature of your post, but even without knowing the specifics, the internal conflict and suffering you are going through shines through your words. I've been there (hell, I think I might actually be there), so please know you are not alone in your misery. I know it's a small consolation, but still...

2: I hear you on the 'putting yourself feeling foreign' part. I, and everyone else here could tell you how important it is to look out for number one, but we both know that you can't/won't bc that's not how you are wired. And to be honest, the world needs more people like you. In all my years of working, I can count on one hand the number of people I've worked with who truly put others before themselves. Again, balance is key, but it's nothing to be ashamed of.

3: In all of these years of posting, I (being the huge Winger fan that I am) can't help but feel like I'm talking to Kip Winger when I respond to your posts.  ;D I know you're not Kip (or do I????), but please, for the love of all that is good, never change your avatar!

But, seriously, hope tomorrow is a turn in the right direction.

Thanks William, I appreciate your time with your post. 

1. Knowing one can read the conflict though my words certainly says a lot to me on a couple of different levels.  I obviously won't go into specifics, I was slightly worried even posting what I posted (yes, they have made me super paranoid) but do know that the conflict is real because of the internal specifics.

2. I guess I am indeed just wired that way.  Being a leader and being a manager are two different things.  I've learned and studied a lot from bad managers on what not do to and managers don't understand how to value and respect employees.  Being a leader means having their back, and for years, these guys need something or need help, I'm there and they know that.  That's what is absolutely fucking killing me making this decision.  Like I've gone against everything I stand for.

3. I wish I had as much hair as Kip Winger.   ;D
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2023, 06:40:16 PM
Plus, Kip Winger is a pussy. We all know Wolfking is not.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2023, 06:48:47 PM
Plus, Kip Winger is a pussy. We all know Wolfking is not.

 :lol

Fuck me I feel like a pussy today though, I can't shake that.  I tell myself though still being there and putting up with the shit I have makes me weaker than doing what I'm doing.  Not sure how much merit there is to that, but I have to tell myself any positive notions I can muster up. 

Also, adding onto Will's post, I've had a lot of people tell me I'm the best boss they've ever had.  One of them wrote back today that I was the glue that was still holding what's left of us together.  That shit hits home, especially after the decision I've made.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on November 15, 2023, 07:38:28 PM
Dropped you an email mate.  You're a brave man to face whatever it is that you're having to deal with.  Taking care of oneself when you've spent a life and career of taking care of others might as well be asking you to chew your thumbs off.

You've got all of us to lean on however much you can or want to.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 15, 2023, 08:50:54 PM
Sheesh, not much to add except that really sucks.

Brought back some bad memories when I had a Dictator Director that put all the weight of our massive IT department and the organization on my shoulders. I was just a dude from Desktop Support who was promoted and made the admin of one of the biggest platforms in the org. Had some very rough days and lots of tears then. I hated work/life/everything. I felt worthless.

So yeah, many of us have been there in some way shape or form. All I can say is that I hope things get better. They did for me, just took some time.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2023, 08:55:41 PM
Dropped you an email mate.  You're a brave man to face whatever it is that you're having to deal with.  Taking care of oneself when you've spent a life and career of taking care of others might as well be asking you to chew your thumbs off.

You've got all of us to lean on however much you can or want to.

Thanks Chad.  Part of me feels brave, but another part of me feels weak as piss like I'm running away from the potential work problem.  Time will hopefully give clarity to which is the best option.  Life is funny, every day is a gamble, sometimes the gambles are just higher stakes.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2023, 09:00:27 PM
Sheesh, not much to add except that really sucks.

Brought back some bad memories when I had a Dictator Director that put all the weight of our massive IT department and the organization on my shoulders. I was just a dude from Desktop Support who was promoted and made the admin of one of the biggest platforms in the org. Had some very rough days and lots of tears then. I hated work/life/everything. I felt worthless.

So yeah, many of us have been there in some way shape or form. All I can say is that I hope things get better. They did for me, just took some time.

Thanks mate, yeah, it goes on everywhere hey.  I guess as some know, I have a love/hate relationship with work, it's like being there I know was killing me and made me hate life but one of those things even today, I'm struggling to live without it. 

I guess in life it's wise to have a few baskets with a couple of eggs in each.  You can have one full ass overloaded basket, but if all those fuckers fall out, all you have is an empty fucking basket!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: faizoff on November 15, 2023, 09:08:39 PM
Hey man, from reading your posts and all, i would never think of you as a pussy. I can't offer any advice, it looks like you're doing the right thing for yourself. I know you can do this, even it it looks or feels like you can't. You got this.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2023, 09:14:24 PM
Hey man, from reading your posts and all, i would never think of you as a pussy. I can't offer any advice, it looks like you're doing the right thing for yourself. I know you can do this, even it it looks or feels like you can't. You got this.

Hey thanks man for your post, it's appreciated.  Yeah, the whole pussy thing is a me problem haha.  I'm too hard on myself but thanks, I'll take that.

Yeah mate, everything we go through has to go through a process, it'll get better no matter which road I decide to take.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Evermind on November 15, 2023, 09:15:23 PM
You're a brave man to face whatever it is that you're having to deal with.

This. The situation, from the little details you've been dropping over the past few years, Kade, sounds dreadful and I know I probably wouldn't have been able to deal with it for so long. Good on you not bailing on your co-workers but at some point enough is enough. From your post I take it you're at that point now, well there's no shame in that. If anything, that should be on people on the other side on conflict from what you've been posting.

By the way, I like how the first sick day you took in 39 years is due to "sick of this shit" sickness. :lol What did you take during your lightning accident? PTO? Unpaid leave?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2023, 09:27:33 PM
You're a brave man to face whatever it is that you're having to deal with.

This. The situation, from the little details you've been dropping over the past few years, Kade, sounds dreadful and I know I probably wouldn't have been able to deal with it for so long. Good on you not bailing on your co-workers but at some point enough is enough. From your post I take it you're at that point now, well there's no shame in that. If anything, that should be on people on the other side on conflict from what you've been posting.

By the way, I like how the first sick day you took in 39 years is due to "sick of this shit" sickness. :lol What did you take during your lightning accident? PTO? Unpaid leave?

Nothing, I went back to work the next day just to try and keep my mind busy.  That's what I mean, I've still given my all and have been shit on in return.  Then they tried to ping it on me and saying I was too fatigued and tried just to find reasons and justifications for the accident yet they let me go right back to work.  It was my choice, but health and Safety nor anyone else gave me paid leave of absence or anything.  There's been fuck all support too.  I know I'm a closed book but no regular check ins from Health and Safety, People and Culture, Managers (only my direct manager, now gone and team mates), nothing, just used me as an example in regards to workplace accients without telling me first.

Thanks for the post Ruslan, I appreciate all these words, certainly the reason this place is so amazing.

What you say is correct with people getting forced out, I think about people with the agendas, how the fuck do they sleep at night, they have to live with their actions, just terrible.  Never seems to be any ramifications for those others, just so corrupt.  But yes, no one would still be there after the last 21 months, trust me.  :lol

Yeah, I've never had the feeling that yesterday.  i always wonder, when do people reach that point to say 'no more, I'm out.'  My threshold is pretty big but regardless of what I do from here, I hit that yesterday, and that's probably another thing that's affected me the most.  I never thought I'd hit that in all honestly.  I thought I was immortal.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Indiscipline on November 16, 2023, 02:02:25 AM
Reading without really knowing, I take your mates have rightfully trusted your judgement for years, hence I dare say you can trust it yourself!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on November 16, 2023, 03:59:27 AM
Reading without really knowing, I take your mates have rightfully trusted your judgement for years, hence I dare say you can trust it yourself!

Fucking sound advice Alessandro and makes perfect sense, I think you're right. .  I have spoken to a couple of them tonight, they certainly do and think I should have done something a long time ago.

Was nice to talk to them after my feelings this morning.  Apologies all for laying it on a bit thick.  Reading back I was just being a bitch haha but this place is a haven for all of us to let it out when we need, that's how comfortable it is.  Anyway, see how tomorrow goes. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on November 16, 2023, 05:55:08 AM
Reading without really knowing, I take your mates have rightfully trusted your judgement for years, hence I dare say you can trust it yourself!

Fucking sound advice Alessandro and makes perfect sense, I think you're right. .  I have spoken to a couple of them tonight, they certainly do and think I should have done something a long time ago.

Was nice to talk to them after my feelings this morning.  Apologies all for laying it on a bit thick.  Reading back I was just being a bitch haha but this place is a haven for all of us to let it out when we need, that's how comfortable it is.  Anyway, see how tomorrow goes.

This is where your mindset has to change.  You weren't being a bitch... you were being human.  Time to shed the toxic masculinity part mate... we all reach our limits and break down once and a while.  It takes strength and courage to be vulnerable; it's not a sign of weakness whatsoever.  Life is 10% what happens to us, and 90% how we react.  Your reaction (and resulting emotions) yesterday was fully justified - don't diminish that by then telling yourself (and us) you were just being a bitch.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: WilliamMunny on November 16, 2023, 05:58:43 AM
Reading without really knowing, I take your mates have rightfully trusted your judgement for years, hence I dare say you can trust it yourself!

This. Is. Gold.  :metal

Just wanted to pop back in this morning to say 'keep your head up' Wolfie, judging by the responses above, you possess a sound mind and honest intentions–again, the world needs more people like you!

Also, if you ever wanna chat in a non-public place, feel free to drop a PM. Either way, keep on keepin' on :coolio
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on November 16, 2023, 09:42:50 AM
Dropped you an email mate.  You're a brave man to face whatever it is that you're having to deal with.  Taking care of oneself when you've spent a life and career of taking care of others might as well be asking you to chew your thumbs off.

You've got all of us to lean on however much you can or want to.

Thanks Chad.  Part of me feels brave, but another part of me feels weak as piss like I'm running away from the potential work problem.  Time will hopefully give clarity to which is the best option.  Life is funny, every day is a gamble, sometimes the gambles are just higher stakes.

Frame of reference, my friend.  You're not running from the problem; if you're the leader you say you are (and I have every reason to believe you ARE) then this is your time to teach your team the hardest lesson:  when to stop banging your head against the wall and prepare for the next challenge.  There is ALWAYS a bigger bear, as they say, and there is wisdom to know when to stop wasting energy on a losing cause.  I think it's a testament to you that it took 39 years to get to this point, but you're there now, and we've ALL come across the "bigger bear" at some point in our professional (or personal, or both) lives.  It wasn't work, but some of the feelings you describe are how I felt when it finally sunk in that my marriage was over, that I had to tell my kid our family was gone, and I had to face my parents (who died last year within a couple months of each other after over 60 years of being together 24/7) that I had failed at the one thing I wanted most to emulate about them. 

We forget sometimes that life isn't a Die Hard movie, with the hero riddled with bullets, bleeding from every orifice, dragging themselves up for fight after fight; in real life, we have to sometimes tend our powder, take a moment to make sure we're strong - mentally, physically, emotionally - to face the fight each day.

I see someone taking a pause to make sure they are fit and ready for the next challenge, whatever it is.  Good luck, bud, and as others have said, we're here for you however you need it.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Glasser on November 16, 2023, 10:32:20 AM
Today I have taken my first sick day in 39 years.  Due to the last two years of a tough working environment which heads into evil and corrupt territory and the results and aftermath of the accident that happened to me plus the culmination of things I've dealt with and things I haven't been given in relation to that, something happened yesterday that left me feeling sick and left me with a very bad feeling. 

My gut was telling me to take drastic measures immediately.  The way I felt yesterday because of this are feelings no one should have to deal with let alone everything over the last 2 years.  It was the hardest decision to call in sick and where I am at the moment, I'm not sure when or if I can go back, but life is too short and precious to endure shit you don't need to endure.

My team and I are so close and I am shattered it has had to come to this.  I'm their leader and have taken so many bullets for them but I think there comes a time no matter what position you are in, you need to take care of yourself.  The last 24 hours has hit me like a ton of bricks and I haven't cried as much in the last 24 hours than I have in the last 24 years.  I feel like I'm letting them all down.

So I sit here, Thursday morning at 11am, years of fucking hard work and sacrifice and now I feel completely lost and needing to start again, not knowing where the fuck to go from here.  The feelings currently are so overwhelming.  Work and my team were my purpose.  I've messaged members of my team to tell them I'm sorry even though I can't tell them what's going on, they are such good kids, I'm like their uncle or something, they all understand and thought I'd be gone long ago, but they are my friends and colleagues.  I'm completely heartbroken right now.  I can't stop the tears.  This is harder than I ever thought it would be and was praying it would never come to this.

Although, since the accident, the last 24 hours I think have shown me and even though I have just gotten back up and gotten back into it, I haven't dealt with a lot of problems since that happened, just kept busy to hide them and still put others before me.  Being selfhish and putting yourself first today feels wrong and foreign.  I don't like it.  Part of me thinks I should go back to my team and deal with the situation, but the other part says no and I don't deserve to have to cop shit when I've been so loyal to them even after everything.

Takes a while to sink in that work and organisations don't give a flying fuck about you.  Luckily, I did it for the people around me, which is the reason why this is so hard.

Wow Kade, I'm choking up after reading this. Sending a big hug to you. Please do not feel guilty taking care of yourself, its vital. I'm sure your team and co-workers trust your judgement and stand behind you. I'm sorry you're dealing with this and I'm here in any way if you ever need to talk, message me and I'll call you, anything you need I'm here.  :heart :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: cramx3 on November 16, 2023, 11:06:23 AM
Dropped you an email mate.  You're a brave man to face whatever it is that you're having to deal with.  Taking care of oneself when you've spent a life and career of taking care of others might as well be asking you to chew your thumbs off.

You've got all of us to lean on however much you can or want to.

Thanks Chad.  Part of me feels brave, but another part of me feels weak as piss like I'm running away from the potential work problem.  Time will hopefully give clarity to which is the best option.  Life is funny, every day is a gamble, sometimes the gambles are just higher stakes.

Dude, you are not weak and you are not running away.  You've dealt with wayyyy too much shit at this job.  You've simply have had enough and no decent person can blame you.  Doesn't make you weak at all, quite strong considering what happened to you. 

Also, you got to take care of yourself.  I don't know what that means for you in this case, but put yourself first.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on November 16, 2023, 11:22:16 AM
Kade, I'm glad you are dealing with it. 

My brother and I talked about the funk we both are in.  The loss of my father, both of us putting our cats down the same week a month after my dad passed away and now, the Queen's breast cancer.  Work is crazy and the stress is piling on.  I've been fighting with myself to push through this.  The last 4 nights I've woke up 3 tp 4 hours before the alarm is supposed to.  I can't fall back to sleep.  I'm exhausted. 

Still fighting it though. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Indiscipline on November 16, 2023, 12:44:08 PM
Kade, I'm glad you are dealing with it. 

My brother and I talked about the funk we both are in.  The loss of my father, both of us putting our cats down the same week a month after my dad passed away and now, the Queen's breast cancer.  Work is crazy and the stress is piling on.  I've been fighting with myself to push through this.  The last 4 nights I've woke up 3 tp 4 hours before the alarm is supposed to.  I can't fall back to sleep.  I'm exhausted. 

Still fighting it though.

Holy cow, Joe, I didn't know. Lots of hugs to the whole Kingdom from both the Indies. Fight like a Cowens!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on November 16, 2023, 01:06:41 PM
Kade, I'm glad you are dealing with it. 

My brother and I talked about the funk we both are in.  The loss of my father, both of us putting our cats down the same week a month after my dad passed away and now, the Queen's breast cancer.  Work is crazy and the stress is piling on.  I've been fighting with myself to push through this.  The last 4 nights I've woke up 3 tp 4 hours before the alarm is supposed to.  I can't fall back to sleep.  I'm exhausted. 

Still fighting it though.

Holy cow, Joe, I didn't know. Lots of hugs to the whole Kingdom from both the Indies. Fight like a Cowens!

The one good news is I had my bariactic surgery in Feburary and im down 174 pounds.  From 437 to 263 right now.  40 more pounds to go.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: cramx3 on November 16, 2023, 01:09:37 PM
Kade, I'm glad you are dealing with it. 

My brother and I talked about the funk we both are in.  The loss of my father, both of us putting our cats down the same week a month after my dad passed away and now, the Queen's breast cancer.  Work is crazy and the stress is piling on.  I've been fighting with myself to push through this.  The last 4 nights I've woke up 3 tp 4 hours before the alarm is supposed to.  I can't fall back to sleep.  I'm exhausted. 

Still fighting it though.

Holy cow, Joe, I didn't know. Lots of hugs to the whole Kingdom from both the Indies. Fight like a Cowens!

The one good news is I had my bariactic surgery in Feburary and im down 174 pounds.  From 437 to 263 right now.  40 more pounds to go.

Which is incredible so you got to keep looking at the positives.  Been a real shit year for you, but this is a huge positive change to reflect on.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on November 16, 2023, 01:13:48 PM
I'm trying so hard Marc.  Just want to make it through this year and Lisa's treatment.  We are going to get 2 new kitties after Lisa's treatment. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: cramx3 on November 16, 2023, 01:24:21 PM
I'm trying so hard Marc.  Just want to make it through this year and Lisa's treatment.  We are going to get 2 new kitties after Lisa's treatment.

You got this man, you've been through so much and have overcome, you can keep pushing through. There's a light at the end of the tunnel.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on November 16, 2023, 02:38:26 PM
I'm trying so hard Marc.  Just want to make it through this year and Lisa's treatment.  We are going to get 2 new kitties after Lisa's treatment.

You WILL, buddy, you WILL. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on November 16, 2023, 03:09:04 PM
Kade, I'm glad you are dealing with it. 

My brother and I talked about the funk we both are in.  The loss of my father, both of us putting our cats down the same week a month after my dad passed away and now, the Queen's breast cancer.  Work is crazy and the stress is piling on.  I've been fighting with myself to push through this.  The last 4 nights I've woke up 3 tp 4 hours before the alarm is supposed to.  I can't fall back to sleep.  I'm exhausted. 

Still fighting it though.

Holy cow, Joe, I didn't know. Lots of hugs to the whole Kingdom from both the Indies. Fight like a Cowens!

The one good news is I had my bariactic surgery in Feburary and im down 174 pounds.  From 437 to 263 right now.  40 more pounds to go.

See? You just worry about what you can control and you'll be good. I know it. Lisa is in good hands with her upcoming treatments. Not to say it'll be easy, but there's a plan, and light at the end of the tunnel.

Can't help you with the cat thing. ;D
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on November 16, 2023, 03:35:31 PM
I got the cat thing. I got the Queen thing. I've got the 40 more pounds thing. I keep trucking forward.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Indiscipline on November 16, 2023, 03:46:55 PM
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Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on November 16, 2023, 03:52:42 PM
I did that in high school on a hard rubber court and went feet over torso because my face and shoulder skidded on the rubber court. I got up like nothing happened. 

I heart the crowd gasp then I felt the pain. Lol

I had sexy girls carry my books to class the next 3 days at school carry my books but I lived putting Vaseline on my rashes. Chick's dug how I got those rashes. Lol
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on November 16, 2023, 04:11:07 PM

I had sexy girls carry my books to class the next 3 days at school

Probably from the lockup doing community service.


I lived putting Vaseline on my rashes.

Is there any other way to live?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on November 16, 2023, 04:25:29 PM
Dude. I was a king before I was a king!
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on November 16, 2023, 04:32:29 PM
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Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on November 16, 2023, 04:38:39 PM
It makes me so happy. Love all you DTF'ers.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on November 16, 2023, 05:15:03 PM
Reading without really knowing, I take your mates have rightfully trusted your judgement for years, hence I dare say you can trust it yourself!

Fucking sound advice Alessandro and makes perfect sense, I think you're right. .  I have spoken to a couple of them tonight, they certainly do and think I should have done something a long time ago.

Was nice to talk to them after my feelings this morning.  Apologies all for laying it on a bit thick.  Reading back I was just being a bitch haha but this place is a haven for all of us to let it out when we need, that's how comfortable it is.  Anyway, see how tomorrow goes.

This is where your mindset has to change.  You weren't being a bitch... you were being human.  Time to shed the toxic masculinity part mate... we all reach our limits and break down once and a while.  It takes strength and courage to be vulnerable; it's not a sign of weakness whatsoever.  Life is 10% what happens to us, and 90% how we react.  Your reaction (and resulting emotions) yesterday was fully justified - don't diminish that by then telling yourself (and us) you were just being a bitch.

That last part is great Chad, thank you.  I know you are right.  Definitely something I've struggled with.  Need to accept the emotions and embrace them I think.  Probably the only real way to move on with things, acceptance.

Reading without really knowing, I take your mates have rightfully trusted your judgement for years, hence I dare say you can trust it yourself!

This. Is. Gold.  :metal

Just wanted to pop back in this morning to say 'keep your head up' Wolfie, judging by the responses above, you possess a sound mind and honest intentions–again, the world needs more people like you!

Also, if you ever wanna chat in a non-public place, feel free to drop a PM. Either way, keep on keepin' on :coolio

Thank you so much William, you've been a great help here.  To be honest though, the world needs a lot more people like many of us in here, you included, bless you.

Dropped you an email mate.  You're a brave man to face whatever it is that you're having to deal with.  Taking care of oneself when you've spent a life and career of taking care of others might as well be asking you to chew your thumbs off.

You've got all of us to lean on however much you can or want to.

Thanks Chad.  Part of me feels brave, but another part of me feels weak as piss like I'm running away from the potential work problem.  Time will hopefully give clarity to which is the best option.  Life is funny, every day is a gamble, sometimes the gambles are just higher stakes.

Frame of reference, my friend.  You're not running from the problem; if you're the leader you say you are (and I have every reason to believe you ARE) then this is your time to teach your team the hardest lesson:  when to stop banging your head against the wall and prepare for the next challenge.  There is ALWAYS a bigger bear, as they say, and there is wisdom to know when to stop wasting energy on a losing cause.  I think it's a testament to you that it took 39 years to get to this point, but you're there now, and we've ALL come across the "bigger bear" at some point in our professional (or personal, or both) lives.  It wasn't work, but some of the feelings you describe are how I felt when it finally sunk in that my marriage was over, that I had to tell my kid our family was gone, and I had to face my parents (who died last year within a couple months of each other after over 60 years of being together 24/7) that I had failed at the one thing I wanted most to emulate about them. 

We forget sometimes that life isn't a Die Hard movie, with the hero riddled with bullets, bleeding from every orifice, dragging themselves up for fight after fight; in real life, we have to sometimes tend our powder, take a moment to make sure we're strong - mentally, physically, emotionally - to face the fight each day.

I see someone taking a pause to make sure they are fit and ready for the next challenge, whatever it is.  Good luck, bud, and as others have said, we're here for you however you need it.

Thanks Bill.  I'm sorry about your parents and your marriage.  Must have been a somber feeling to accept it was over at the time.  I do feel exactly like the Bruce Willis of my group, I've taken pride in that but as Chad said with the whole masculinity thing, gotta put that aside sometimes and do what I need to fight the next battle, that's sound advice.

Also, with the bolded part, funny you mention that.  As I mentioned when I saw a couple of them and spoke to them last night, the older one who I've worked with for 15 years had something similar today.  When I told them that I just wanted them to know how bad I felt and felt I let them down, I said to them as I mentioned, 'I'm your leader and I'm potentially not going to be there for you and that's hard.'  She said to me, 'given the situation we are in and how much our small group are up against, maybe you are the one to know lead us out of the fire into different stages of our lives.'  Possibly so true.

Today I have taken my first sick day in 39 years.  Due to the last two years of a tough working environment which heads into evil and corrupt territory and the results and aftermath of the accident that happened to me plus the culmination of things I've dealt with and things I haven't been given in relation to that, something happened yesterday that left me feeling sick and left me with a very bad feeling. 

My gut was telling me to take drastic measures immediately.  The way I felt yesterday because of this are feelings no one should have to deal with let alone everything over the last 2 years.  It was the hardest decision to call in sick and where I am at the moment, I'm not sure when or if I can go back, but life is too short and precious to endure shit you don't need to endure.

My team and I are so close and I am shattered it has had to come to this.  I'm their leader and have taken so many bullets for them but I think there comes a time no matter what position you are in, you need to take care of yourself.  The last 24 hours has hit me like a ton of bricks and I haven't cried as much in the last 24 hours than I have in the last 24 years.  I feel like I'm letting them all down.

So I sit here, Thursday morning at 11am, years of fucking hard work and sacrifice and now I feel completely lost and needing to start again, not knowing where the fuck to go from here.  The feelings currently are so overwhelming.  Work and my team were my purpose.  I've messaged members of my team to tell them I'm sorry even though I can't tell them what's going on, they are such good kids, I'm like their uncle or something, they all understand and thought I'd be gone long ago, but they are my friends and colleagues.  I'm completely heartbroken right now.  I can't stop the tears.  This is harder than I ever thought it would be and was praying it would never come to this.

Although, since the accident, the last 24 hours I think have shown me and even though I have just gotten back up and gotten back into it, I haven't dealt with a lot of problems since that happened, just kept busy to hide them and still put others before me.  Being selfhish and putting yourself first today feels wrong and foreign.  I don't like it.  Part of me thinks I should go back to my team and deal with the situation, but the other part says no and I don't deserve to have to cop shit when I've been so loyal to them even after everything.

Takes a while to sink in that work and organisations don't give a flying fuck about you.  Luckily, I did it for the people around me, which is the reason why this is so hard.

Wow Kade, I'm choking up after reading this. Sending a big hug to you. Please do not feel guilty taking care of yourself, its vital. I'm sure your team and co-workers trust your judgement and stand behind you. I'm sorry you're dealing with this and I'm here in any way if you ever need to talk, message me and I'll call you, anything you need I'm here.  :heart :heart

thanks Tom, appreciate it brother.  You too my friend, I think of you are lot and hope you are still hanging in there.  We and I are all here too.  :heart

Kade, I'm glad you are dealing with it. 

My brother and I talked about the funk we both are in.  The loss of my father, both of us putting our cats down the same week a month after my dad passed away and now, the Queen's breast cancer.  Work is crazy and the stress is piling on.  I've been fighting with myself to push through this.  The last 4 nights I've woke up 3 tp 4 hours before the alarm is supposed to.  I can't fall back to sleep.  I'm exhausted. 

Still fighting it though. 

Thank you Joe.  After posting I do take the perspective I have and remember what you've been through, what Tim has gone through, what Tom is going through and I know my current issue pales in comparison to others here but thank you for your well wishes.

You've had it rough mate, and I want to say I'm really glad we have seemed to be building a great friendship more as time goes on here.  I feel for you and hope you're doing okay.  One thing I have realised is that I feel you and I are similar leaders, you love your team as much as I do and you seem like the kind of guy I certainly would love to work under.  I'm sure a lot of the pressure you have for work that you may put on yourself is based on that too, wanting to be there for your people, I obviously love that, but while I'm not one to say, make sure you and the queen are good first.  A lot of work pressure is so unnecessary I feel (for me anyway), you're a good leader, you'll do what you need to do, don't forget about you and your wonderful wife.  You need to be good for you and her to be good for your people.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on November 16, 2023, 05:15:38 PM
Kade, I'm glad you are dealing with it. 

My brother and I talked about the funk we both are in.  The loss of my father, both of us putting our cats down the same week a month after my dad passed away and now, the Queen's breast cancer.  Work is crazy and the stress is piling on.  I've been fighting with myself to push through this.  The last 4 nights I've woke up 3 tp 4 hours before the alarm is supposed to.  I can't fall back to sleep.  I'm exhausted. 

Still fighting it though.

Holy cow, Joe, I didn't know. Lots of hugs to the whole Kingdom from both the Indies. Fight like a Cowens!

The one good news is I had my bariactic surgery in Feburary and im down 174 pounds.  From 437 to 263 right now.  40 more pounds to go.

Fucking outstanding.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on February 25, 2024, 05:05:11 AM
It's kinda nice that "this topic has not been posted in for at least 90 days."

It's been a brutal February.  I think I've been as low in my life as I've ever been. Living with depression sucks.  For me, there are many many different layers and nuances to what's triggered it, but there was a period of about 10 days where nothing mattered.  Literally nothing - there were times I didn't even care about or have the energy to eat.  I would never take my own life, but the thoughts are there - I was driving on the highway one day, passing a big transport truck and though "if he sideswiped me into the ditch, that wouldn't be so bad".  I don't know where I got the energy to put on a brave face and make it thru my work days.  The past few days have been better, but it's a pretty big hole to have to climb out of.  I'm still mostly faking my way thru things.

I miss me.
The old me.
The happy me.
The bright me.
The smiling me.
The laughing me.
The gone me.
         --Unknown


... but I'm trying to get back there.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on February 25, 2024, 06:47:54 AM
Love ya, Chad. Reach out any time.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on February 25, 2024, 06:56:16 AM
Love ya, Chad. Reach out any time.

Here’s the thing tho … when you’re as down as I was, when eating feels like “what’s the point?”, reaching out to even those that I know love and care about me also feels like “what’s the point?”

I just wanted to crawl into the deep dark black hole that my emotions were in, and stop. Stop everything. Literally…. everything.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ReaperKK on February 25, 2024, 06:58:42 AM
That's terrible Chad, have you considered maybe talking to a therapist?
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: King Postwhore on February 25, 2024, 07:34:58 AM
Love ya, Chad. Reach out any time.

Here’s the thing tho … when you’re as down as I was, when eating feels like “what’s the point?”, reaching out to even those that I know love and care about me also feels like “what’s the point?”

I just wanted to crawl into the deep dark black hole that my emotions were in, and stop. Stop everything. Literally…. everything.

I absolutely get that but when you feel the need to poke your head out,  I'm there for you.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Lonk on February 25, 2024, 07:43:59 AM
Sorry to hear what you're going through. Been there before, and sometimes its the little moments that help you crawl out of it.

I know I'm just a stranger here, but if there is anything I can do, I'm just a message away.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Evermind on February 25, 2024, 08:06:19 AM
Love ya, Chad. Reach out any time.

Here’s the thing tho … when you’re as down as I was, when eating feels like “what’s the point?”, reaching out to even those that I know love and care about me also feels like “what’s the point?”

I just wanted to crawl into the deep dark black hole that my emotions were in, and stop. Stop everything. Literally…. everything.

I absolutely get that but when you feel the need to poke your head out,  I'm there for you.

Agreed. You have my number/Whatsapp if you ever need to reach out.

And hang in there Chad, I don't know about Canada but it's been absolutely dreary here this month and it's also affecting everyone. Hopefully with the spring coming soon it'll get better for you.

I can send you more shitty music too if that helps.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on February 25, 2024, 11:36:28 AM
Love ya, Chad. Reach out any time.

Here’s the thing tho … when you’re as down as I was, when eating feels like “what’s the point?”, reaching out to even those that I know love and care about me also feels like “what’s the point?”

I just wanted to crawl into the deep dark black hole that my emotions were in, and stop. Stop everything. Literally…. everything.

I get it man. I was there for a while in my early 20s (remember that crazy version of me circa 2011? some of my lowest points).

One thing that helped me was to realize that depression is a strong force acting on you, but you can overcome it, and you keep going until it falls off of you or you find the solutions. Which is why you probably don't actually want to kill yourself. You want to get through this because you know it's not always this way.

Much love, brother. I am here as well.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Cool Chris on February 25, 2024, 12:01:55 PM
I always hate when I see this thread at the top of the page.

I've been there, I spent years wondering who would show up at my funeral if something happened. I knew a couple people cared, and that helped a lot, just knowing they might miss me if I was gone. Honestly, I have no idea how I got out of it. But I do know it was gradual. It's not all rainbows and gumdrops now, but it is better. It can and will happen for you too.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Harmony on February 25, 2024, 12:35:32 PM
I stumbled upon this last week.  I can't say I'm a huge BBT fan but this resonated with me on a level that is hard to put into words.  He describes exactly how I feel in my grief over the loss of my sister well on 2 years ago now.

I know many here are dealing with grief and loss.  Maybe it will help.  I hope it does....at least as much as anything could ever possibly help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Pn3y7S5FAw
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: TAC on February 25, 2024, 12:42:41 PM
Love ya, Chad. Reach out any time.

Here’s the thing tho … when you’re as down as I was, when eating feels like “what’s the point?”, reaching out to even those that I know love and care about me also feels like “what’s the point?”

I just wanted to crawl into the deep dark black hole that my emotions were in, and stop. Stop everything. Literally…. everything.

I absolutely get that but when you feel the need to poke your head out,  I'm there for you.

Same.

Always pulling for you! :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Indiscipline on February 25, 2024, 02:47:47 PM
It's kinda nice that "this topic has not been posted in for at least 90 days."

It's been a brutal February.  I think I've been as low in my life as I've ever been. Living with depression sucks.  For me, there are many many different layers and nuances to what's triggered it, but there was a period of about 10 days where nothing mattered.  Literally nothing - there were times I didn't even care about or have the energy to eat.  I would never take my own life, but the thoughts are there - I was driving on the highway one day, passing a big transport truck and though "if he sideswiped me into the ditch, that wouldn't be so bad".  I don't know where I got the energy to put on a brave face and make it thru my work days.  The past few days have been better, but it's a pretty big hole to have to climb out of.  I'm still mostly faking my way thru things.

I miss me.
The old me.
The happy me.
The bright me.
The smiling me.
The laughing me.
The gone me.
         --Unknown


... but I'm trying to get back there.

It takes a strong man to write a post like that, Chad.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on February 25, 2024, 05:14:09 PM
It's kinda nice that "this topic has not been posted in for at least 90 days."

It's been a brutal February.  I think I've been as low in my life as I've ever been. Living with depression sucks.  For me, there are many many different layers and nuances to what's triggered it, but there was a period of about 10 days where nothing mattered.  Literally nothing - there were times I didn't even care about or have the energy to eat.  I would never take my own life, but the thoughts are there - I was driving on the highway one day, passing a big transport truck and though "if he sideswiped me into the ditch, that wouldn't be so bad".  I don't know where I got the energy to put on a brave face and make it thru my work days.  The past few days have been better, but it's a pretty big hole to have to climb out of.  I'm still mostly faking my way thru things.

I miss me.
The old me.
The happy me.
The bright me.
The smiling me.
The laughing me.
The gone me.
         --Unknown


... but I'm trying to get back there.

First off, thank you for baring your soul to us Chad.  I know you've been a big advocate to me about sharing feelings and not letting the whole 'toxic masculinity' thing overpower you, so kudos for practicing what you preach and sharing such a raw post.  That's commendable and demands more respect again from me.

I'll add a different spin and just simply say I can relate to a lot of what you say here.  I know we can go into specifics offline if you like, but just know that you're not alone with these sorts of feelings.  I am in no way comparing because I know the history you've had and it doesn't compare, nor should it, but for it to come to this point is scary mate.  But just know the last couple of years, I have been able to relate more than ever, if that's any sort of comfort.  I'm sure there's others here that could relate in one way or another and these sorts of posts while putting your feelings out there is hard, may help others realise certain thoughts and feelings are more prevalent in some of us than they think.


Love ya, Chad. Reach out any time.

Here’s the thing tho … when you’re as down as I was, when eating feels like “what’s the point?”, reaching out to even those that I know love and care about me also feels like “what’s the point?”

I just wanted to crawl into the deep dark black hole that my emotions were in, and stop. Stop everything. Literally…. everything.

I get it man. I was there for a while in my early 20s (remember that crazy version of me circa 2011? some of my lowest points).

One thing that helped me was to realize that depression is a strong force acting on you, but you can overcome it, and you keep going until it falls off of you or you find the solutions. Which is why you probably don't actually want to kill yourself. You want to get through this because you know it's not always this way.

Much love, brother. I am here as well.

I think though some can overcome it and some can't, each individual is different.  I think the cliche thinking of one foot in front of the other plus things like 'it's a low point, keep powering through, it will pass,' certainly has their place and sometimes is all the hope you need to ride those peaks and valleys.  I think some can suppress things for a period of time and that's a success until things come back again.  I'm starting to think personally it's something you can never fully conquer, just accept it and learn to live with your own mind. 

The thing is if I can relate to Chad, there's nothing anyone can say or do to help in these times, no matter how good the intentions are.  The care and support certainly goes a long way and is comforting, but over the last 2 years I've had people tell me all the positive things in the world but on those days you just think, 'meh, whatever, I still feel like shit.'  Personally I've changed and I'm accepting that.

Chad, much love, you don't deserve to feel like this.  Stay strong, you've helped me immensely over time with your words and advice, so I know you can start to climb out of the hole again.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on February 25, 2024, 06:21:40 PM
Oh for sure, I didn't mean to overcome it entirely, but to get through this current bout with it. Once you ever have depression, it seems you have a chance of getting back to that state.

And agreed on the kind words. I'm sure you and I and everyone has good intentions in support of him, but it can really not matter in that moment when the depression just envelopes you. It's been a long time for me, and sometimes I'll start to feel a little that way, but I remember those feelings. Just hoping a good guy gets over this and maybe something we say might tell his brain to get out of that funk. :)
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on February 25, 2024, 06:32:33 PM
Oh for sure, I didn't mean to overcome it entirely, but to get through this current bout with it. Once you ever have depression, it seems you have a chance of getting back to that state.

And agreed on the kind words. I'm sure you and I and everyone has good intentions in support of him, but it can really not matter in that moment when the depression just envelopes you. It's been a long time for me, and sometimes I'll start to feel a little that way, but I remember those feelings. Just hoping a good guy gets over this and maybe something we say might tell his brain to get out of that funk. :)

No, I didn't mean to discredit your words mate, they were spot on.  Sorry if that came off that way.

No matter what, positive words from multiple people who like the guy is never any harm, no matter how he's feeling.  It could be just that that helps someone to just tell themselves to keep putting one foot in front of the other.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Jamesman42 on February 25, 2024, 07:06:18 PM
All good man! It's been nice to discuss this, I've had a bit of down time myself and it's almost therapeutic to talk on here.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: ProfessorPeart on February 25, 2024, 07:45:17 PM
My wife just had another episode recently. She had been struggling for weeks/months with bad thoughts and other things. She was trying to power through and then a few Saturdays ago she goes upstairs and comes back down with a packed bag and her CPAP machine. I got the message. Got dressed and drove her to the hospital. She got admitted and spent a week in there. Now she is doing 4 weeks of intensive outpatient therapy which she goes to 5 days a week all day.

I realize something like that would be hard for a lot of people, but she needs this every few years. This was the first time she ever proactively packed a bag. I got the message without her having to say anything.

Turns out it was a good thing. Not only did she need a major med adjustment, they discovered she was suffering from serotonin syndrome as well which only made things worse. A few weeks on and she is in a much better place.

Not sure how that helps, but I guess I'm saying, as someone on the other side of this, I get it and eventually you will hopefully move past this episode.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 25, 2024, 08:11:09 PM
It's kinda nice that "this topic has not been posted in for at least 90 days."

It's been a brutal February.  I think I've been as low in my life as I've ever been. Living with depression sucks.  For me, there are many many different layers and nuances to what's triggered it, but there was a period of about 10 days where nothing mattered.  Literally nothing - there were times I didn't even care about or have the energy to eat.  I would never take my own life, but the thoughts are there - I was driving on the highway one day, passing a big transport truck and though "if he sideswiped me into the ditch, that wouldn't be so bad".  I don't know where I got the energy to put on a brave face and make it thru my work days.  The past few days have been better, but it's a pretty big hole to have to climb out of.  I'm still mostly faking my way thru things.

I miss me.
The old me.
The happy me.
The bright me.
The smiling me.
The laughing me.
The gone me.
         --Unknown


... but I'm trying to get back there.

As many have mentioned Chad....just a phone call or text away. From reading your posts I know it's not that easy and that I probably don't have any magic words that can ease your suffering....but put it in your heart and mind that you have a lot of folks who are willing and able to fill a need if you so desire. Much love to you
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on February 25, 2024, 09:29:02 PM
It's kinda nice that "this topic has not been posted in for at least 90 days."

It's been a brutal February.  I think I've been as low in my life as I've ever been. Living with depression sucks.  For me, there are many many different layers and nuances to what's triggered it, but there was a period of about 10 days where nothing mattered.  Literally nothing - there were times I didn't even care about or have the energy to eat.  I would never take my own life, but the thoughts are there - I was driving on the highway one day, passing a big transport truck and though "if he sideswiped me into the ditch, that wouldn't be so bad".  I don't know where I got the energy to put on a brave face and make it thru my work days.  The past few days have been better, but it's a pretty big hole to have to climb out of.  I'm still mostly faking my way thru things.

I miss me.
The old me.
The happy me.
The bright me.
The smiling me.
The laughing me.
The gone me.
         --Unknown


... but I'm trying to get back there.

As many have mentioned Chad....just a phone call or text away. From reading your posts I know it's not that easy and that I probably don't have any magic words that can ease your suffering....but put it in your heart and mind that you have a lot of folks who are willing and able to fill a need if you so desire. Much love to you

I think we are all just willing to listen.  Sometimes that's all that's needed.


All good man! It's been nice to discuss this, I've had a bit of down time myself and it's almost therapeutic to talk on here.

It is good to put these real raw emotions out there at times.  Good thing about here how great everyone is and no one passing an ounce of judgement.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: wolfking on February 25, 2024, 09:32:22 PM
My wife just had another episode recently. She had been struggling for weeks/months with bad thoughts and other things. She was trying to power through and then a few Saturdays ago she goes upstairs and comes back down with a packed bag and her CPAP machine. I got the message. Got dressed and drove her to the hospital. She got admitted and spent a week in there. Now she is doing 4 weeks of intensive outpatient therapy which she goes to 5 days a week all day.

I realize something like that would be hard for a lot of people, but she needs this every few years. This was the first time she ever proactively packed a bag. I got the message without her having to say anything.

Turns out it was a good thing. Not only did she need a major med adjustment, they discovered she was suffering from serotonin syndrome as well which only made things worse. A few weeks on and she is in a much better place.

Not sure how that helps, but I guess I'm saying, as someone on the other side of this, I get it and eventually you will hopefully move past this episode.

Great to hear after all she's going through mate she came out more positive with this recent episode.  Must be hard for both of you, can't even imagine.  It's good you have each other.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: jingle.boy on February 26, 2024, 04:14:14 AM
lots to touch on here.  First, my heart goes out to everyone living in pain, including Mrs. Peart and Harmony.  :hug:

This is how I like to express my depression ... some say they suffer from it, I say I live with it.  For me, it's no difference than having any form of chronic physical illness - arthritis, or MS, or something like that.  Some days it's barely noticeable, some days it's tough, and others it's debilitating.  But it's always there.  I know the REALLY bad times won't last forever, but (for me) they don't just fall off. 

As I reflect on my life, I've always had it (at least as far back as my teens), I just didn't recognize it for what it was until my mid-30s, or suppressed it with various means (drugs in my teens; partying/alcohol in my early 20s; love/infatuation in my late 20s; parenthood in my early 30s).

Therapy ... yeah, I would like to, but for reasons I don't want to go in to, while it would be helpful on one hand, it would likely be detrimental on another.  It's complicated.

@ Chris... the thought of "who would attend my funeral" is something that comes up in my mind a lot - especially in those really dark times.

As I said, things have been a little better the past week, but the 'hangover' of deep depression will almost always linger for a while... and it is for me at the moment.

Thanks to you all for the thoughts and comments.   :heart
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: emtee on February 26, 2024, 07:24:42 AM
It's tough to read these posts. So many people struggling.

I have to relate a story. I have 2 large Rubbermaid totes full of photos. Every time I move I say to myself, "I need to sort through these and weed out the ones that don't matter," but I've never done it until this weekend. I'm one of these people who have spent their lives thinking that things were better back when and longing to go back but after spending hours going through those photos, I was faced with having to admit that things were never better. I saw every chapter of my life in those photos and got so depressed that I ended up throwing three quarters of the photos into garbage bags. But for some reason I didn't throw them into the trash can. They sat there on the floor. Saturday night I had horrible dreams that were driven by those photos. So many of them were family members and friends that are gone now. I have to work on identifying negative thought patterns and telling myself that I get to make the decision to rectify those thoughts and convert them into something positive and not slip into the trap of telling myself that things were better when I was younger. They weren't. I have to figure out a way to be OK with the here and now because time is running out for me to find happiness.
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: cramx3 on February 26, 2024, 08:39:59 AM
It's kinda nice that "this topic has not been posted in for at least 90 days."

It's been a brutal February.  I think I've been as low in my life as I've ever been. Living with depression sucks.  For me, there are many many different layers and nuances to what's triggered it, but there was a period of about 10 days where nothing mattered.  Literally nothing - there were times I didn't even care about or have the energy to eat.  I would never take my own life, but the thoughts are there - I was driving on the highway one day, passing a big transport truck and though "if he sideswiped me into the ditch, that wouldn't be so bad".  I don't know where I got the energy to put on a brave face and make it thru my work days.  The past few days have been better, but it's a pretty big hole to have to climb out of.  I'm still mostly faking my way thru things.

I miss me.
The old me.
The happy me.
The bright me.
The smiling me.
The laughing me.
The gone me.
         --Unknown


... but I'm trying to get back there.

This is tough to read, but since you put it out there it must mean that you do have the desire to feel better.  You recognize it and want it to be better.  I'm not going to sit here and act like I know how to make it better, but I can say confidently that I know it can happen.  You've got a lot of people here who enjoy your presence and know you are a good dude. Some of us are quite looking forward to hanging out together later this year.  You'll get back there, you are not "gone"
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Train of Naught on February 26, 2024, 08:41:01 AM
It's kinda nice that "this topic has not been posted in for at least 90 days."

It's been a brutal February.  I think I've been as low in my life as I've ever been. Living with depression sucks.  For me, there are many many different layers and nuances to what's triggered it, but there was a period of about 10 days where nothing mattered.  Literally nothing - there were times I didn't even care about or have the energy to eat.  I would never take my own life, but the thoughts are there - I was driving on the highway one day, passing a big transport truck and though "if he sideswiped me into the ditch, that wouldn't be so bad".  I don't know where I got the energy to put on a brave face and make it thru my work days.  The past few days have been better, but it's a pretty big hole to have to climb out of.  I'm still mostly faking my way thru things.

I miss me.
The old me.
The happy me.
The bright me.
The smiling me.
The laughing me.
The gone me.
         --Unknown


... but I'm trying to get back there.


Remember if you can go through all of that I bet soon enough you will find it in you to find the help you need, no one can help you enough if you don't want to help yourself, Remember if you decide to get help, the help will arrive in the ways you want it to arrive.. Much love to you, poor soul
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: Stadler on February 26, 2024, 09:50:26 AM
I stumbled upon this last week.  I can't say I'm a huge BBT fan but this resonated with me on a level that is hard to put into words.  He describes exactly how I feel in my grief over the loss of my sister well on 2 years ago now.

I know many here are dealing with grief and loss.  Maybe it will help.  I hope it does....at least as much as anything could ever possibly help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Pn3y7S5FAw

Yeah, I can vouch for all of that.   I don't know if the percentages are right, and "sad" isn't really the right word, but I carry that melancholy as well.  I'm just now coming to grips with what Billy Bob said, and that is it will be with me from here on out. 
Title: Re: The Depressed/Angry Thread.
Post by: OpenYourEyes311 on February 26, 2024, 01:11:55 PM
I would never take my own life, but the thoughts are there.

I miss me.
The old me.
The happy me.
The bright me.
The smiling me.
The laughing me.
The gone me.
         --Unknown

Wow. I could have wrote that. Both the bolded and the poem. Hope you find some peace.

This is how I like to express my depression ... some say they suffer from it, I say I live with it.  For me, it's no difference than having any form of chronic physical illness - arthritis, or MS, or something like that.  Some days it's barely noticeable, some days it's tough, and others it's debilitating.  But it's always there.  I know the REALLY bad times won't last forever, but (for me) they don't just fall off. 

As I reflect on my life, I've always had it (at least as far back as my teens), I just didn't recognize it for what it was until my mid-30s, or suppressed it with various means (drugs in my teens; partying/alcohol in my early 20s; love/infatuation in my late 20s; parenthood in my early 30s).

Re: the bolded part here, that's how I feel as well. It's always there and it's been a very hard year getting out of it. It's crazy the things we do to suppress the bad feelings. I never used drugs or alcohol, but it's funny how this post triggered how I'm sort of using parenthood to do my very best at masking the depression. He makes every day worth living, even when it doesn't feel like it.