Star Wars Discussion Thread v. Rogue One

[MetalJunkie]

Yes, but whatever happened to, "What happens on Tatooine stays on Tatooine"?  Talk about a failed ad campaign. 

Wouldn't that work better for Nar Shaddaa?

[MrBoom_shack-a-lack]

https://www.technobuffalo.com/2014/08/18/disney-said-to-be-planning-to-release-the-unaltered-original-star-wars-trilogy-on-blu-ray/

[King Postwhore]

About time.

[Phoenix87x]

I'll buy it day one.

And agreed, it is about damn time.

[The King in Crimson]

Jesus fuck, finally!

[BlobVanDam]

Still a rumour at this point.
One problem is that Disney don't own the rights to release episodes 4/5/6. Fox owns the rights for 5/6 until 2020, and they own the rights for 4 forever unless they sell them. Hopefully they can sort that mess out before then.

[King Postwhore]

I blame Lucas for this.  That greedy bastard.

[hefdaddy42]

Yeah, that is not ever, ever going to happen.

[jingle.boy]

Yeah, that is not ever, ever going to happen.

Yeah, no shit.  If Fox isn't giving up the X-Men rights to Marvel, they sure as shit aren't going to give up the rights to Ep IV.

[BlobVanDam]

Yeah, that is not ever, ever going to happen.

Yeah, no shit.  If Fox isn't giving up the X-Men rights to Marvel, they sure as shit aren't going to give up the rights to Ep IV.

I don't know, I think it will happen once they lose the rights to the rest of the films in 2020. It's going to cost Disney a boatload to make it happen, but they can make it happen.

[zepp-head]

I blame Lucas for this.  That greedy bastard.

Greedy for NOT selling out?!  While the sales of the unaltered trilogy are likely greatly exaggerated, he still could have made more money at any given time if he decided to grab his ankles and bend over to fanboy whims by releasing those versions, but he decided that wasn't the artistic vision now.

Boy do I dislike the hater logic.  I decided to visit here after a long hiatus, but I always seem to regret it when I do.

Also while 2020 is the magic date for Empire and Jedi, I believe FOX owns A New Hope forever.

[hefdaddy42]

I blame Lucas for this.  That greedy bastard.

Greedy for NOT selling out?!  While the sales of the unaltered trilogy are likely greatly exaggerated, he still could have made more money at any given time if he decided to grab his ankles and bend over to fanboy whims by releasing those versions, but he decided that wasn't the artistic vision now.

No, greedy for not giving his fans what they want.  Thinking of his own interests, instead of something that would make them very, very happy.

Also while 2020 is the magic date for Empire and Jedi, I believe FOX owns A New Hope forever.

That is correct.

If I were FOX, I would go ahead and release it at some point, because that will be their last chance to make any money off of the OT in its entirety.

[ZirconBlue]

How was Lucas in control of the previous home-video releases if he didn't control the rights?

[The Dark Master]

How was Lucas in control of the previous home-video releases if he didn't control the rights?

I'm not certain of the legal minutia, but I think FOX just has exclusive distribution rights on the OT, and not rights over the specific content of the releases.  Basically, any time Lucasfilm wanted to put out a new version of the OT, FOX alone got to distribute the films, but they didn't have any control of what version of the films Lucas wanted to release.

And yes, I still think it is nonsensical for the original unaltered trilogy to not be available in a proper release.  There is clearly a demand for the films in their original forms as evidenced from various sources (originaltrilogy.org, The People vs. George Lucas documentary, a widespread bootleg market for HD copies of the original films, and so on).  And I don't really buy the whole "artistic vision" argument because Lucas changed his vision with every single release of the films after 1997 (remember when Luke screamed "Neveeeeer!" when falling down the Cloud City shaft at the end of Empire?  It was in the theatrical re-release and the SE VHS release, but removed from later releases.)  And some of the changes he made in later versions were just so minute and baffling, (blinking Ewoks, R2 hiding behind even more rocks from the Jawas, etc). 

Eventually, I just came to chalk it up to a neurotic need he apparently had to make little changes here and there with every possible release just because of 1) the possibilities of changing technology and trying to keep the films looking current with the latest tech, 2) the old adage that art is never completed and merely abandoned (and Lucas found himself in a position where he never really was forced to abandon it), 3) trying to offer something new with each release, and 4) perhaps even as a passive-aggressive jab at the fans who complained about the changes.

[BlobVanDam]

Photos and video have been taken of the Millennium Falcon and a few X-Wings on location.

https://www.starwars7news.com/2014/09/new-star-wars-episode-7-filming-location-at-greenham-common-millennium-falcon-and-x-wing-spotted.html

[WorldsFromAshes]

Has anyone else checked out the book "A New Dawn"? It's supposed to be the first 'official' canon release for Star Wars moving forward with Disney. If this is the direction they're gonna keep heading in, I'm definitely a happy camper

[Grizz]

See, in this internet age everything gets leaked. I want an Empire Strikes Back-type twist and I want to be on the movie theater floor with the popcorn when I hear it.

Also, I swear someone used to be on OT.com with an avatar of James LaBrie holding a lightsaber. Can anyone attest to this?

[RaiseTheKnife]

Also unconfirmed plot leaks but I'm not gonna post it till it's confirmed or debunked.

Why not just wait for the movie?  Do you really want it spoiled now?

[Kotowboy]

Photos and video have been taken of the Millennium Falcon and a few X-Wings on location.

https://www.starwars7news.com/2014/09/new-star-wars-episode-7-filming-location-at-greenham-common-millennium-falcon-and-x-wing-spotted.html

I work near Newbury in Berkshire

Maybe I should go along and see

[BlobVanDam]

That's cool, although I doubt there's anything to see for a casual passing by. Anything that was visible from ground level is long since blocked now, I think.

You should have auditioned for a role. Darth Kotow, or something.

[Kotowboy]

That's cool, although I doubt there's anything to see for a casual passing by. Anything that was visible from ground level is long since blocked now, I think.

You should have auditioned for a role. Darth Kotow, or something.

Me ? In Star Wars ? Blas For Me ! Blas For You !!!


I actually get on the Newbury train to work. It's two stops from actual Newbury. I bet the location isn't anywhere near the town itself though. And not reachable by Public Transport.

[JayOctavarium]

Well start walkin'

[BlobVanDam]

For anyone who hasn't seen it yet, here's the new Millennium Falcon. Dayam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C7lUfVIOa4

[Zook]

For anyone who hasn't seen it yet, here's the new Millennium Falcon. Dayam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C7lUfVIOa4

With added Tumbler cannon.

[RaiseTheKnife]

Dark Knight music??

[BlobVanDam]

Probably, since the video was mostly to show the TDK Tumbler Batmobile model they snuck in there as a greebly.

[Kotowboy]

JJ is definitely being a lot less secretive about Episode 7 than he was about Into Darkness.

INB4 yeah i would have kept into darkness secret too !

[BlobVanDam]

JJ is definitely being a lot less secretive about Episode 7 than he was about Into Darkness.

I think it's a lot harder to keep this stuff secret, and JJ probably doesn't have as much control over it. The new Star Wars movie is such a big deal, and it's kind of hard to hide a full size Millennium Falcon out in the open.
And I don't think Star Trek had as much location shooting, which is how a lot of this Star Wars information gets out.



And also I would have kept Into Darkness secret too.

[hefdaddy42]

And also I would have kept Into Darkness secret too.

I feel the same way, especially after watching it. 

[BlackInk]

Slow down there guys, do you want Kotowboy to have a heart attack?

[RaiseTheKnife]

Probably, since the video was mostly to show the TDK Tumbler Batmobile model they snuck in there as a greebly.

Oh, okay.  I didn't recognize what it was on the first viewing.  I wonder if Warner Bros. will take up the issue if this film sneaks other noticeable Batman IP (intellectual property) into this film.

[hefdaddy42]

Nah, JJ and Zach Snyder (the director of Batman v. Superman) have been trading things like this back and forth for months.

[Kotowboy]

And also I would have kept Into Darkness secret too.

I feel the same way, especially after watching it.

ThatsTheJoke.JPG

[Grizz]

There's no way that was a practical model.

[BlobVanDam]

Probably, since the video was mostly to show the TDK Tumbler Batmobile model they snuck in there as a greebly.

Oh, okay.  I didn't recognize what it was on the first viewing.  I wonder if Warner Bros. will take up the issue if this film sneaks other noticeable Batman IP (intellectual property) into this film.

I'd be surprised if it's even noticeable in the final film, given the size and placement of it.
Star Trek: First Contact snuck in the Millennium Falcon into a battle, Star Trek 11 had R2D2 in some space debri, Star Wars ep 2 had an Enterprise pass by in the background, these things are just easter eggs that aren't noticeable unless they've been pointed out.
The greeblies in the OT were all kinds of random objects like that too. Everything from Volvo hubcabs to engine blocks off model cars, and lightsabers made from camera parts. I don't think there will be any issue.