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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3255 on: December 10, 2015, 03:06:04 PM »
Yeah I definitely hope there are some types of repeated themes . . . most rock operas do have them though so I'm not too worried ;)
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3256 on: December 10, 2015, 03:06:54 PM »
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I just found a leak of the complete Astonishing character list, oops.....



Honestly we need to have DT and DT collaborate for a Ziltoid project

The difference is that Ziltoid doesn't even take himself seriously (which is part of what makes him so great), whereas with The Astonishing, you won't catch Aryhys or Nafaryus telling fart jokes to Gabriel. Or go into the back story of how Evangeline is a huge DT fan girl who worships John Petrucci.  :corn
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3257 on: December 10, 2015, 03:25:58 PM »
Quote from: wolven74 on December 10, 2015, 03:02:37 PM
Is anyone else hoping for some repeated themes throughout the story, be they musical or lyrical, or both? I listened to SFAM recently and remember hearing a lot of repeated themes, like home repeating a theme from Metropolis Pt 1 (though I realize SFAM was the sequel to that song, so repeating a theme from it was probably inevitable)

I'm really, really, hoping for lots of repeated themes and melodies.  This could make or break the album for me.  The fact that there's an overture is a very good sign.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3258 on: December 10, 2015, 03:27:26 PM »
Quote from: Pragmaticcircus on December 10, 2015, 03:06:54 PM

The difference is that Ziltoid doesn't even take himself seriously (which is part of what makes him so great), whereas with The Astonishing, you won't catch Aryhys or Nafaryus telling fart jokes to Gabriel.

Then why is a line in the lyrics to "Lord Nafaryus": "Doth his fart smelleth not?"  ???
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3259 on: December 10, 2015, 03:29:52 PM »
Quote from: Thematt202 on December 10, 2015, 03:25:58 PM
Quote from: wolven74 on December 10, 2015, 03:02:37 PM
Is anyone else hoping for some repeated themes throughout the story, be they musical or lyrical, or both? I listened to SFAM recently and remember hearing a lot of repeated themes, like home repeating a theme from Metropolis Pt 1 (though I realize SFAM was the sequel to that song, so repeating a theme from it was probably inevitable)

I'm really, really, hoping for lots of repeated themes and melodies.  This could make or break the album for me.  The fact that there's an overture is a very good sign.

It's pretty much confirmed from the Rolling Stone interview. Looks like there will be themes for different characters:

"Rather than simply stringing songs together, Petrucci and Rudess fashioned sounds to suit disparate settings and situations, and devised recurring themes to signify characters in the story."

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/inside-dream-theaters-wildly-ambitious-new-concept-lp-20151203#ixzz3txYFSBHE
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3260 on: December 10, 2015, 03:35:24 PM »
Quote from: noxon on December 10, 2015, 03:27:26 PM
Quote from: Pragmaticcircus on December 10, 2015, 03:06:54 PM

The difference is that Ziltoid doesn't even take himself seriously (which is part of what makes him so great), whereas with The Astonishing, you won't catch Aryhys or Nafaryus telling fart jokes to Gabriel.

Then why is a line in the lyrics to "Lord Nafaryus": "Doth his fart smelleth not?"  ???

Haha  :lol I would have hoped that at least some of the lyrics used Middle English, but then I remembered that the story is set in the future, lol.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3261 on: December 10, 2015, 04:26:26 PM »
Hi guys, long time no see, what's up?

On topic; I was pleasantly surprised by The Gift of Music. It really does make me think of my favorite albums and that's really exciting. Couldn't be happier about having purchased tickets for the gig in Stockholm.  :yarr
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3262 on: December 10, 2015, 04:29:37 PM »
I wonder if this is the most elaborate album ever made.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3263 on: December 10, 2015, 04:30:24 PM »
Quote from: Darkstarshades on December 10, 2015, 04:29:37 PM
I wonder if this is the most elaborate album ever made.

I don't see how it can't be!
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3264 on: December 10, 2015, 04:57:13 PM »
Even if I had heard the entire album and not merely 9 tracks, it would be too early to rank this album.  But that being said, I can tell already that this will rank in the top half of the discography just based on the strength of what I have heard.  I don't know where in the top half.  It could end up smack in the middle.  It could be #1.  Neither would shock me.  But as I listen to this songs, I think of my top 4 DT albums and ask myself, "Are these songs THAT good that I could possibly rank this album ahead of my top 4 DT albums of all time?"  And I answer, "Yeah, maybe they are."  I really can't wait until __________ ___, 2016.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3265 on: December 10, 2015, 04:58:02 PM »
January 29.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3266 on: December 10, 2015, 04:58:34 PM »
Perhaps.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3267 on: December 10, 2015, 04:59:05 PM »
Quote from: bosk1 on December 10, 2015, 04:57:13 PM
Even if I had heard the entire album and not merely 9 tracks, it would be too early to rank this album.  But that being said, I can tell already that this will rank in the top half of the discography just based on the strength of what I have heard.  I don't know where in the top half.  It could end up smack in the middle.  It could be #1.  Neither would shock me.  But as I listen to this songs, I think of my top 4 DT albums and ask myself, "Are these songs THAT good that I could possibly rank this album ahead of my top 4 DT albums of all time?"  And I answer, "Yeah, maybe they are."  I really can't wait until __________ ___, 2016.

Can you tell us which 9 tracks have you heard?
Not specific names, just... Early ones? Disc II ones?
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3268 on: December 10, 2015, 04:59:46 PM »
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3269 on: December 10, 2015, 05:01:05 PM »
Quote from: Darkstarshades on December 10, 2015, 04:59:05 PM
Can you tell us which 9 tracks have you heard?
No.

Quote from: Darkstarshades on December 10, 2015, 04:59:05 PM
Not specific names, just... Early ones? Disc II ones?
Yes.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3270 on: December 10, 2015, 05:01:21 PM »
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Quote from: bosk1 on December 10, 2015, 04:58:34 PM
Perhaps.
Early release?
No.

EDIT:  I mean, seriously, that doesn't happen in the music industry.  Sorry, not an option.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3271 on: December 10, 2015, 05:02:23 PM »
Everywhere is saying Jan 29.



Even on :soon:'s official site so it's Jan 29.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3272 on: December 10, 2015, 05:03:14 PM »
Maybe Petrucci wakes up one day, busts his way into the studio, tells Rich "Fuck off, I can't wait" and leaks it on purpose?
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3273 on: December 10, 2015, 05:03:39 PM »
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3274 on: December 10, 2015, 05:11:18 PM »
Quote from: bosk1 on December 10, 2015, 05:01:21 PM
No.

EDIT:  I mean, seriously, that doesn't happen in the music industry.  Sorry, not an option.
I know, but I'm in the same boat as Kotow, you put blanks in for the date when we already know January 29th (or I guess thought we knew)
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3275 on: December 10, 2015, 05:16:13 PM »
Maybe they have other plans...
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3276 on: December 10, 2015, 05:17:20 PM »
Maybe his blank date is for the next song release or a 120 minute making of...

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3277 on: December 10, 2015, 05:17:59 PM »
Quote from: SystematicThought on December 10, 2015, 05:11:18 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on December 10, 2015, 05:01:21 PM
No.

EDIT:  I mean, seriously, that doesn't happen in the music industry.  Sorry, not an option.
I know, but I'm in the same boat as Kotow, you put blanks in for the date when we already know January 29th (or I guess thought we knew)
I know.  But as I have mentioned before, those are dates on vendor sites.  The band has not released the date yet, so I am not going to say what it is because it is not set in stone.  That projected date has not become official yet.  It is just the projected date that is released to those outlets.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3278 on: December 10, 2015, 05:18:33 PM »
Even Roadrunner ?


The label ?


You think they'd know.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3279 on: December 10, 2015, 05:20:35 PM »
RR promised me my FLAC tracks would be available the 29th.

Also the Rolling Stone interview stated the 29th
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3280 on: December 10, 2015, 05:21:15 PM »
It is the launch date for the album's videogame.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3281 on: December 10, 2015, 05:25:32 PM »
Quote from: bosk1 on December 10, 2015, 05:17:59 PM
I know.  But as I have mentioned before, those are dates on vendor sites.  The band has not released the date yet, so I am not going to say what it is because it is not set in stone.  That projected date has not become official yet.  It is just the projected date that is released to those outlets.
Color me intrigued
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3282 on: December 10, 2015, 05:36:05 PM »
Quote from: Kotowboy on December 10, 2015, 05:18:33 PM
Even Roadrunner ?


The label ?


You think they'd know.

It's like you're new here.   ;)

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3283 on: December 10, 2015, 05:54:51 PM »
This has instantly reminded me of Opeth's Pale Communion delay. Color me... afraid?
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3284 on: December 10, 2015, 06:16:11 PM »
Quote from: bosk1 on December 10, 2015, 05:01:21 PM
Quote from: SystematicThought on December 10, 2015, 04:59:46 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on December 10, 2015, 04:58:34 PM
Perhaps.
Early release?
No.

EDIT:  I mean, seriously, that doesn't happen in the music industry.  Sorry, not an option.

It does occasionally when albums get leaked. Eg. Bjork's Vulnicura. A few others have also dropped in early as a response to leaks.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3285 on: December 10, 2015, 08:05:02 PM »
Quote from: dvargas on December 10, 2015, 06:16:11 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on December 10, 2015, 05:01:21 PM
Quote from: SystematicThought on December 10, 2015, 04:59:46 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on December 10, 2015, 04:58:34 PM
Perhaps.
Early release?
No.

EDIT:  I mean, seriously, that doesn't happen in the music industry.  Sorry, not an option.

It does occasionally when albums get leaked. Eg. Bjork's Vulnicura. A few others have also dropped in early as a response to leaks.

I think nowdays, specially with rock/metal bands, they usually put up a full online album stream early, instead of releasing the album in the stores.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3286 on: December 10, 2015, 08:21:06 PM »
Hopefully one of those homepage vids will be like a trailer with other song clips.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3287 on: December 10, 2015, 08:29:04 PM »
Ok so I leave the forum for a week and there are already 30+ more pages of speculation?  :rollin
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3288 on: December 10, 2015, 08:38:03 PM »
Quote from: Sacul on December 10, 2015, 08:29:04 PM
Ok so I leave the forum for a week and there are already 30+ more pages of speculation?  :rollin

I think all the activity is great. The forum is very enjoyable to be around when we're leading up to an album release. I'm not sure what the exact numbers are, but I would estimate that it's been busier than the DT12 buildup. The complexity of the story, the manner in which information is being revealed.. I have to give kudos again to the band and the label for doing all this. It feels like it's going to be a special chapter in the history of Dream Theater..
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #3289 on: December 10, 2015, 11:19:47 PM »
Quote from: bosk1 on December 10, 2015, 05:17:59 PM
I know.  But as I have mentioned before, those are dates on vendor sites.  The band has not released the date yet, so I am not going to say what it is because it is not set in stone.  That projected date has not become official yet.  It is just the projected date that is released to those outlets.

Not true. Go to https://www.dreamtheater.net/preorder

Look what it says.

Available January 29th, 2016

And also: https://roadrunnerrecords.co.uk/2015/12/dream-theater-release-incredible-double-concept-album-the-astonishing-on-january-29th/


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