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Dream Theater => Dream Theater => Topic started by: MinistroRaven on September 01, 2019, 05:12:40 PM
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Posted about this on the other thread, it has me intrigued. It's related to bandsintown so it probably has to do with touring, but the background art used is the same one as the Paralyzed single. Hmm...
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My bet is on European tour in January/February with the full SFAM production instead of the summer festival set.
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I really hope so - they've really short-changed their European fans in recent years, both with a general lack of touring and playing some poor venue choices.
DT: We'll be playing in the UK in the summer!
UK fans: ;D
DT: One festival show, doing a 30 minute set on the second stage at 3pm.
UK fans: :'(
DT: But we'll be back in the fall!
UK fans: ;D
DT: Playing one show in a hideous arena that resembles a cattle shed that most bands avoid like the plague because it's got terrible acoustics.
UK fans: Oh well, it could be worse. There's many countries where they don't play at all, we should be thankful for what we get.
DT: Tickets start at £75!
Ticketma$ter: And we'll at least double that!
UK fans: :'( :'( :'(
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The only thing that justifies a countdown like this is news of new music.
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That official Back to Budokan release? That would be nice, they need some new product on the shelves for Christmas...
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This seems like such odd timing, does it not?
I feel like it's far too early to announce a new record, and there's almost nothing I can envision happening on a tour that justifies a week of promotional counting down. Then again, the site says "TRACK US ON BANDSINTOWN AND CRACK THE COUNTDOWN", so it's got to be tour related.
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This seems like such odd timing, does it not?
I feel like it's far too early to announce a new record, and there's almost nothing I can envision happening on a tour that justifies a week of promotional counting down. Then again, the site says "TRACK US ON BANDSINTOWN AND CRACK THE COUNTDOWN", so it's got to be tour related.
Pretty much. No need to overhype tour dates with a week-long countdown, unless it's a live album recording or something big like that.
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This seems like such odd timing, does it not?
I feel like it's far too early to announce a new record, and there's almost nothing I can envision happening on a tour that justifies a week of promotional counting down. Then again, the site says "TRACK US ON BANDSINTOWN AND CRACK THE COUNTDOWN", so it's got to be tour related.
Pretty much. No need to overhype tour dates with a week-long countdown, unless it's a live album recording or something big like that.
Yeah, I'm curious what this is. If it's just a tour announcement, the week-long countdown seems like overkill. A live album is the only announcement I can think of that makes sense at this point in their touring cycle.
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This seems like such odd timing, does it not?
I feel like it's far too early to announce a new record, and there's almost nothing I can envision happening on a tour that justifies a week of promotional counting down. Then again, the site says "TRACK US ON BANDSINTOWN AND CRACK THE COUNTDOWN", so it's got to be tour related.
Pretty much. No need to overhype tour dates with a week-long countdown, unless it's a live album recording or something big like that.
Yeah, I'm curious what this is. If it's just a tour announcement, the week-long countdown seems like overkill. A live album is the only announcement I can think of that makes sense at this point in their touring cycle.
I'm going to be livid if we get a second live version of Scenes after The Astonishing got the shaft.
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I'm going to be livid if we get a second live version of Scenes after The Astonishing got the shaft.
Well, prepare to be livid. That's what seems most likely to me.
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A live release from this tour would only make sense without SFAM and with a more D/T focused setlist, imo. An Astonishing suite (playing a few songs back to back) would be a nice addition too. But there's definitely no need for another full live release of SFAM (and it is my favorite album).
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I wonder what "crack the countdown" means.
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it Has to be some sort of special event
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It's counting down to the opening of a Dream Theater themed escape room: "Trapped Inside *this* Octavarium."
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I'm going to be livid if we get a second live version of Scenes after The Astonishing got the shaft.
Not going to be livid, but it would be the first DVD/video that isn't an automatic buy upon release for me.
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I'm going to be livid if we get a second live version of Scenes after The Astonishing got the shaft.
Not going to be livid, but it would be the first DVD/video that isn't an automatic buy upon release for me.
Ditto (especially since the non-SFAM set was, IMO, just "meh"). Actually being "livid" would reflect an unwarranted entitlement to something.
Now...if JP invited MP to do a commentary track with him.... :biggrin:
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http://dreamtheater.net
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Well, this was actually the first time I've visited dreamtheater.net in years. I think maybe it was the buildup to The Astonishing last time I was there.
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Now...if JP invited MP to do a commentary track with him.... :biggrin:
No way. Commentary track with MM, MP, James, and Myung!
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One Night Only. The Astonishing Live...to be recorded for a live album/Blue Ray
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One Night Only. The Astonishing Live...to be recorded for a live album/Blue Ray
I am in for that! I will fly wherever. :eek
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One Night Only. The Astonishing Live...to be recorded for a live album/Blue Ray
A man can dream...
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I'm going to be livid if we get a second live version of Scenes after The Astonishing got the shaft.
Not going to be livid, but it would be the first DVD/video that isn't an automatic buy upon release for me.
Ditto (especially since the non-SFAM set was, IMO, just "meh"). Actually being "livid" would reflect an unwarranted entitlement to something.
Now...if JP invited MP to do a commentary track with him.... :biggrin:
Please
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One Night Only. The Astonishing Live...to be recorded for a live album/Blue Ray
This would be amazing. Saw it twice. Wasn't a fan of the studio album but the live presentation kicked ass.
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One Night Only. The Astonishing Live...to be recorded for a live album/Blue Ray
This would be amazing. Saw it twice. Wasn't a fan of the studio album but the live presentation kicked ass.
Yeah, that would be amazing, but I don't see it happening. If think if they were going to do that, they would have when touring the album.
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One Night Only. The Astonishing Live...to be recorded for a live album/Blue Ray
This would be amazing. Saw it twice. Wasn't a fan of the studio album but the live presentation kicked ass.
The current stage could easily work for The Astonishing as well.
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The Astonishing live with Orchestra and Choir - AND a special 1 hour encore of fan favorite DT tunes backed by orchestra and choir.
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The Astonishing live with Orchestra and Choir - AND a special 1 hour encore of fan favorite DT tunes backed by orchestra and choir.
Ugh no. Seriously, ever since Metallica S&M, why does EVERY live release have to have an orchestra these days? I’ve been waiting 20 years for that gimmick to die.
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The Astonishing live with Orchestra and Choir - AND a special 1 hour encore of fan favorite DT tunes backed by orchestra and choir.
Ugh no. Seriously, ever since Metallica S&M, why does EVERY live release have to have an orchestra these days? I’ve been waiting 20 years for that gimmick to die.
Well, "EVERY" live release doesn't. But as for what is being discussed, an orchestra would make perfect sense for a live release of The Astonishing, since there is a TON of orchestration on that album.
...if, hypothetically, that is what the countdown is about. ;) But I'll leave it to you all to reason through for yourselves whether that is likely at this point in time.
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Would you guys think MP would cause a stir if the band recorded this SFAM tour and release it? would you think it would be a smack in his face? I personally wouldn't care but I'm pretty sure MP will react someway or another.
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Countdown to when they'll announce a Seattle date?
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Would you guys think MP would cause a stir if the band recorded this SFAM tour and release it? would you think it would be a smack in his face? I personally wouldn't care but I'm pretty sure MP will react someway or another.
??? Why would he? He didn't write SFAM. Why do you think he would care about that more than any other DT material?
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Would you guys think MP would cause a stir if the band recorded this SFAM tour and release it? would you think it would be a smack in his face? I personally wouldn't care but I'm pretty sure MP will react someway or another.
??? Why would he? He didn't write SFAM. Why do you think he would care about that more than any other DT material?
This.
Plus, he seems to be in a good place with Petrucci and Rudess again to where I doubt he'd say anything publicly to fracture the friendships that have been repaired.
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Live at Scenes Blu-Ray with full video of 2nd set.
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Would you guys think MP would cause a stir if the band recorded this SFAM tour and release it? would you think it would be a smack in his face? I personally wouldn't care but I'm pretty sure MP will react someway or another.
??? Why would he? He didn't write SFAM. Why do you think he would care about that more than any other DT material?
I think SFAM was a very emotional album from everybody in Dream Theater (make or break record, problems with label, etc). He didn't write all of it, but he wrote some songs, produced the album with JP. I would think he would feel he is "being replaced" or being "re-recorded" in the album.
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Would you guys think MP would cause a stir if the band recorded this SFAM tour and release it?
I suppose that depends on what "cause a stir" means. If it means say something stupid/ill-advised via social media or an interview, then maybe, but I think it's equally as likely that he says something not stupid or benign or nothing at all. Unless the separation agreement that I assume was signed after he left the band prohibits the band from doing such a thing (which I think would be REALLY weird), then he has no ability to anything beyond that.
would you think it would be a smack in his face?
No, and I don't know why folks constantly think or ask about MP being "smack[ed] in his face" every time the band does something with material he played on.
He didn't write all of it, but he wrote some songs, produced the album with JP.
Right, and then he chose to leave the band.
I would think he would feel he is "being replaced" or being "re-recorded" in the album.
If he were to think/feel that way (and I don't think he would), then he would be an immature cry-baby. I'm honestly not sure what "'being replaced' or being 're-recorded' in the album" might mean, but nothing the band does now impacts what that was and who played on it. It's not like they're having MM re-record all of the drum tracks and replacing MP's tracks and re-releasing the album (a la Blizzard of Ozz and Diary of a Madman). If I'm counting correctly, Live at Luna Park contains 14 songs from the MP era, and Breaking the Fourth Wall contains 11 such songs (including 4 from SFAM). Was that MP being "'being replaced' or being 're-recorded' in [those] albums"? Should Kevin Moore feel that way about all the live releases containing songs from WDADU, I&W and Awake, and should Derek Sherinian feel that way about live releases of FII material and ACOS?
To be sure, MP made some petulantly childish comments in the couple years after he left the band, but I think he's demonstrated that he's well past that sort of nonsense by now.
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Yeah, I don't think he would say anything. Sure, he still posts some passive-aggressive comments against DT every once in a while, like last week when he shared a clip of his Constant Motion drum cam from his "Sysdrumatic Chaos" DVD on Instagram with the caption "Shame I’m not allowed to sell my DT Drum cam DVDs anymore...". I mean, he might not be allowed to do so, but why does he have to bring it up every time he can? Just move on, man; but I don't think he'd complain about them releasing another live version of SFAM in full (really hoping they don't, though).
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Countdown to what?
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Only europeen tour dates with citys
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Only europeen tour dates with citys
Has that been confirmed?
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I just hope it's not another SFAM live DVD. We have one.
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I just hope it's not another SFAM live DVD. We have one.
(which is flawed IMHO. But yes, I might not want another one either. What my wish is is that they keep some D/T pieces in the live set for the DT15 tour, I'm thinking of PBD and Barstool right now.) Then again, I'll take a live release if it sounds ok and the notes are good. Back to the topic at hand though: The countdown ends at midday next Friday (which makes it 6:00 on a Friday morning New York time. What is it about the honour of God, Aunt Kate?)
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It's the final countdown.
I mean, hopefully.
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Christmas is September 13th this year, just so you know.
In seriousness though, counting down to things like this is pretty silly. It's like those bands who build up and countdown to the time you can pre-order an album. Just hurry up and announce the damn thing. Release Day is something worth counting down to, not this.
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Since Live Scenes was released on Sept. 11 and it being the 20th anniversary of the album. I still say it's the full Live scenes show on Blu-Ray.
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Since Live Scenes was released on Sept. 11 and it being the 20th anniversary of the album. I still say it's the full Live scenes show on Blu-Ray.
although the 20th anniversary of the proper show date is August 30th in 2020.
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Since Live Scenes was released on Sept. 11 and it being the 20th anniversary of the album. I still say it's the full Live scenes show on Blu-Ray.
I can't conceive that they'd do a countdown for something as mundane as that. Also, and while I don't completely understand what "Bandsintown" is, it seems like it has something to do with live shows, so it seems likely that the countdown has something to do with live shows.
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Since Live Scenes was released on Sept. 11 and it being the 20th anniversary of the album. I still say it's the full Live scenes show on Blu-Ray.
I can't conceive that they'd do a countdown for something as mundane as that. Also, and while I don't completely understand what "Bandsintown" is, it seems like it has something to do with live shows, so it seems likely that the countdown has something to do with live shows.
I agree, most likely a tour related announcement. If it was a Blu-Ray they would have announced filming at a show and surely SOMEONE would have noted a big film crew?
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Since Live Scenes was released on Sept. 11 and it being the 20th anniversary of the album. I still say it's the full Live scenes show on Blu-Ray.
I can't conceive that they'd do a countdown for something as mundane as that. Also, and while I don't completely understand what "Bandsintown" is, it seems like it has something to do with live shows, so it seems likely that the countdown has something to do with live shows.
I agree, most likely a tour related announcement. If it was a Blu-Ray they would have announced filming at a show and surely SOMEONE would have noted a big film crew?
Not if they announce a filming of a a European show, which could make sense since the last filmed shows have been in the USA and South America. If Neal Morse, which has a smaller audience compared with DT, can film his European shows, I'm pretty sure DT can if they decide too.
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Since Live Scenes was released on Sept. 11 and it being the 20th anniversary of the album. I still say it's the full Live scenes show on Blu-Ray.
I can't conceive that they'd do a countdown for something as mundane as that. Also, and while I don't completely understand what "Bandsintown" is, it seems like it has something to do with live shows, so it seems likely that the countdown has something to do with live shows.
I agree, most likely a tour related announcement. If it was a Blu-Ray they would have announced filming at a show and surely SOMEONE would have noted a big film crew?
Not if they announce a filming of a a European show, which could make sense since the last filmed shows have been in the USA and South America. If Neal Morse, which has a smaller audience compared with DT, can film his European shows, I'm pretty sure DT can if they decide too.
Not ruling out a live release for this tour BUT if they haven’t filmed yet that means a Blu-Ray is at least 8-12 months out, which seems like an odd thing to have a “countdown” for.
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2 days left. Believe they will announce the European Tour starting in February. Will be something like the last I&M tour
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2 days left. Believe they will announce the European Tour starting in February. Will be something like the last I&M tour
I would say most likely case scenario.
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I bet they're announcing that they're splitting up.
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I bet they're announcing that they're splitting up.
After 8 years, this is your comeback post?
Nice.
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I bet they're announcing that they're splitting up.
After 8 years, this is your comeback post?
Nice.
John Cleese (or a bad impersonation of him) may have typed that if he were a DT fan :D (seriously, though, you're right Hef)
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European tour dates.
https://twitter.com/dreamtheaternet/status/1171693845832241153
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Well time is up. Bring it on DT!!!!!!! :metal
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Wow like that. Starting in Amsterdam.
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Phuck yeah, Milan date, 20 years later I finally get a chance to see the whole of SFAM live :metal
"For those of you who were there when we premiered Scenes From A Memory live in Europe 20 years ago, this will not only be a trip down memory lane but also the chance to see it presented in a completely new light and the way it was always intended to be."
More than it was with how they performed it for Live Scenes from NY? I guess they're referring to a bigger production that back in the day they couldn't afford... I mean, they got some footage and live singers and actors and everything already.
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Fecking all-seated venue, grrr. >:(
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Budapest, here I come. :metal
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Aaaaand no Russian date, as expected.
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By the time those dates come round, they should be "Celebrating 21 Years of Scenes From A Memory".
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Opeth at Cirkus in Stockholm on the 13th of January and then Dream Theater on the 14th and 15th of January..... also at Cirkus
Love it!!!
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By the time those dates come round, they should be "Celebrating 21 Years of Scenes From A Memory".
20 years and three months, give or take the exact day :biggrin:
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That Hammersmith date is going to sell out quickly. Might have to resort to the secondary market for that one... :-\
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Opeth at Cirkus in Stockholm on the 13th of January and then Dream Theater on the 14th and 15th of January..... also at Cirkus
Love it!!!
I wonder which of the 2 dates would be preferable. Can JLB perform well on a back to back? Or will he be better off after a rest day? I saw them in Gasklockorna 3 months ago and thought he did surprisingly well
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Why only two UK dates.
Glasgow would take me about 10 hours drive. London will sell out in minutes?
Surely there must be more UK dates to come?
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Presumably their last UK dates didn't sell too well and the promoters aren't willing to take the chance.
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Presumably their last UK dates didn't sell too well and the promoters aren't willing to take the chance.
Looking at the Glasgow ticket prices, they'd be lucky to fill the toilet let alone the entire venue. £77 for a "Tier 1" ticket. Fuck me.
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http://dreamtheater.net/tour/
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Presumably their last UK dates didn't sell too well and the promoters aren't willing to take the chance.
Looking at the Glasgow ticket prices, they'd be lucky to fill the toilet let alone the entire venue. £77 for a "Tier 1" ticket. Fuck me.
Yeah, that's pretty steep. I got a second row seat for the I&W and Beyond show for £59 including fees/delivery. This will probably be the first UK tour I'll give a miss since the first time I saw them in 2009, unless they make some changes to the set and put Octavarium in there or something.
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£89.65 for Hammersmith! And you can bet your arse that will double by the time they've added booking fees, etc.
Do they think we're made of money? Maybe their US fans can afford to pay that, but this is Brexit Britain!
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Presumably their last UK dates didn't sell too well and the promoters aren't willing to take the chance.
They usually do Manchester at least. They’ve done the same venue for every tour from TOT onwards and always get a big crowd there. Can’t confirm if it’s a total sell out but certainly seems pretty full every time. Don’t know if I can do London this time. I did for The Astonishing as it was the only U.K. date and was the opening show so a pretty historic show and all stuff I’d never seen before. This time I have seen SFAM live in it’s entirety before and, while I’d still definitely go to Manchester, I’m not sure if I want to do London with all the additional expense of an overnight stay and a day off work multiple meals out etc.
Can’t believe I’m actually considering missing this tour when I love the new album and would totally love to see SFAM again.
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I know I've strongly hinted that SFAM would be played in its entirety in Europe (because they wouldn't let me actually SAY it outright), so I'm glad for the official announcement to remove any doubt. The band is really looking forward to playing this for you guys in Europe. As for the rest of the set, I do not know whether you will be getting the exact sets from the first U.S. leg or the slightly modified set they are going to be doing this time around. But either way, it's gonna be good! :metal
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Wasn't the plan all along was to do the SFAM thing in Europe? I thought the band had stated that already?
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Well, there was some "confusion" because of how some promoters in Europe handled the summer shows.
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I know I've strongly hinted that SFAM would be played in its entirety in Europe (because they wouldn't let me actually SAY it outright), so I'm glad for the official announcement to remove any doubt. The band is really looking forward to playing this for you guys in Europe. As for the rest of the set, I do not know whether you will be getting the exact sets from the first U.S. leg or the slightly modified set they are going to be doing this time around. But either way, it's gonna be good! :metal
Are these absolutely all dates for the tour or is it possible that any other dates will be added? The "festival" tour had a few countries that aren't listed for the upcoming SFAM tour (not only Russia although obviously that's the main reason I'm asking, but also countries like Greece and Bulgaria).
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That I don't know. I'll see what I can find out.
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Appreciate it. :tup
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Well it was a bit more than I expected to pay but I got myself a ticket for Glasgow. Came to just under £80 after the additional fees. Definitely a lot but I really don't want to miss out on seeing SFAM performed in its entirety.
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Well it was a bit more than I expected to pay but I got myself a ticket for Glasgow.
Where did you order tickets from? I can't find them on sale anywhere at the moment.
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Preorder for Sweden opened today for those who get the Triffid & Danger newsletter.
Scored tickets on row 5....
Damn expensive though..... 1055 SEK
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Presumably their last UK dates didn't sell too well and the promoters aren't willing to take the chance.
They usually do Manchester at least. They’ve done the same venue for every tour from TOT onwards and always get a big crowd there. Can’t confirm if it’s a total sell out but certainly seems pretty full every time. Don’t know if I can do London this time. I did for The Astonishing as it was the only U.K. date and was the opening show so a pretty historic show and all stuff I’d never seen before. This time I have seen SFAM live in it’s entirety before and, while I’d still definitely go to Manchester, I’m not sure if I want to do London with all the additional expense of an overnight stay and a day off work multiple meals out etc.
Can’t believe I’m actually considering missing this tour when I love the new album and would totally love to see SFAM again.
Already starting to weaken on this! My mate has said he’d be up for it so I guess I’ll be trying to get tickets on Monday morning.
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Well it was a bit more than I expected to pay but I got myself a ticket for Glasgow.
Where did you order tickets from? I can't find them on sale anywhere at the moment.
I got mine from Eventbrite - https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/dream-theater-sec-armadillo-glasgow-tickets-71624740527?aff=ebdssbdestsearch
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I guess JP won't be at NAMM next year then.
And I thought the countdown ended at 6am eastern time? Why did it end early? or is there a super secret announcement tomorrow morning?
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I guess JP won't be at NAMM next year then.
It DEFINITELY had to happen the year I finally have the chance to attend the NAMM show :facepalm: :'(
And I thought the countdown ended at 6am eastern time? Why did it end early? or is there a super secret announcement tomorrow morning?
We "cracked" the countdown and it ended earlier, they posted that with the european dates as an Instagram story the other day.
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That Bandsintown app is one of the worst designed things I've ever seen.
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Have been told by the Eventim box office, that the disabled tickets already gone!!!!
How?
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Well it was a bit more than I expected to pay but I got myself a ticket for Glasgow.
Where did you order tickets from? I can't find them on sale anywhere at the moment.
I got mine from Eventbrite - https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/dream-theater-sec-armadillo-glasgow-tickets-71624740527?aff=ebdssbdestsearch
I'm probably being thick and have missed something, but that asks for a code. Where can the required code be found?
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Well it was a bit more than I expected to pay but I got myself a ticket for Glasgow.
Where did you order tickets from? I can't find them on sale anywhere at the moment.
I got mine from Eventbrite - https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/dream-theater-sec-armadillo-glasgow-tickets-71624740527?aff=ebdssbdestsearch
I'm probably being thick and have missed something, but that asks for a code. Where can the required code be found?
Strange, it could possibly be because I used a link in an e-mail because I signed up for pre-sale or something like that, but my understanding is they were on General Sale now :S
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Just tried to buy a VIP ticket for Hammersmith - Row D! Might as well get as close to the front as I can. Paypal took my money, then failed to return me to the site to confirm. No confirmation email.
Just emailed customer service to assist, so I'm now in a bubble of uncertainty of not knowing whether the booking is confirmed, or whether they're going to refund the money and I end up all the way at the top of the balcony...
EDIT : sorted, but what a palaver that was! Why do these ticket agencies never just put their customer service number on their website?
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the slightly modified set they are going to be doing this time around.
Is this news? I hope they keep ANTR and ITPOE Pt.1 and it would seem odd to chuck such complex songs to learn in the bin so I can only guess that a few changes will be made in terms of DOT material.
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I'd happily lose either one of those for Peruvian Skies, Lie or something else from d/t.
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Just tried to buy a VIP ticket for Hammersmith - Row D!
Row C, non-VIP here. We were going through security at Heathrow when they went on sale so a friend kindly bought them for us. No idea how he got row C without the additional premium (and, let's be clear, £90 to see DT is insulting, never mind the additional required for VIP. We're lucky we can afford it but it's the principle).
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Oh for the good old days of general admission shows when all you had to do to get a good spot was turn up early...
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Oh for the good old days of general admission shows when all you had to do to get a good spot was turn up early...
Completely agree. I know many people who are very pissed off at this recent all-seated nonsense from DT on the last few tours.
I've been in touch with their promoter about this, and was ignored. One of my friends actually raised this point in person with Petrucci, and was brushed off.
I guess forcing people to sit in allocated seats allows DT to charge these offensively high prices.
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I buckled this morning and got tickets for Hammersmith Apollo, about £70 each including fees. It’s not cheap but similar to what you’d pay for someone like Maiden and they wouldn’t play as long a show. In the end, I couldn’t miss seeing Scenes again 20 years on.
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I know it's boring complaining about the cost, but I was just looking back at the prices of previous DT shows I've been to.
Prog Nation - Glasgow - 2009 - £33.90
ADTOE tour - Glasgow - 2012 - £36.40
DT12 tour - Manchester - 2014 - £42.50
Astonishing tour - London - 2016 - £64.95 (Ticketmaster)
I&W and Beyond tour - Glasgow - 2017 - £59 (A second ticket for my friend from Ticketmaster was £64.83)
Those were all pretty good seats as well, except Manchester (and Prog Nation which wasn't seated). One was 2nd row and three were row H. Manchester was row X, but still in the stalls.
At least there are cheaper seats further back, but it's crazy that to get a decent seat for Glasgow this time, you have to spend more than DOUBLE what you did for a similar seat at the same venue in 2012.
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Hope there will be some minor changes to the first setlist on the next us and the european tour, I doubt but hopes. :metal :-\
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In Italy (Milan date) prices are:
Parterre (standing, general admission): € 51,75
"Gold" seating and closer ring of seats: € 74,75
More distant ring of seats: € 57,50
Guess I'll just go for the old fashioned way of everyone standing, it's not that the DT crowd is exactly moshpit material....
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At least there are cheaper seats further back, but it's crazy that to get a decent seat for Glasgow this time, you have to spend more than DOUBLE what you did for a similar seat at the same venue in 2012.
Some of that can be explained by the recent crash of the pound. Back in 2012 we were at $1.60, now we're at $1.25, so the same amount in dollars costs us about 30% more in pounds. But yeah, that doesn't explain all of the difference. DT are trying to set themselves up for retirement.
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At least there are cheaper seats further back, but it's crazy that to get a decent seat for Glasgow this time, you have to spend more than DOUBLE what you did for a similar seat at the same venue in 2012.
Some of that can be explained by the recent crash of the pound. Back in 2012 we were at $1.60, now we're at $1.25, so the same amount in dollars costs us about 30% more in pounds. But yeah, that doesn't explain all of the difference. DT are trying to set themselves up for retirement.
Good point. Bloody brexit :P
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I know it's boring complaining about the cost, but I was just looking back at the prices of previous DT shows I've been to.
I saw them at Rock City in Nottingham in 1993 and I think it was about £15.
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I know it's boring complaining about the cost, but I was just looking back at the prices of previous DT shows I've been to.
I saw them at Rock City in Nottingham in 1993 and I think it was about £15.
Nice, bet that was a good show! Would love to have seen the band in that era, to see James in his prime especially.
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Some of that can be explained by the recent crash of the pound. Back in 2012 we were at $1.60, now we're at $1.25, so the same amount in dollars costs us about 30% more in pounds. But yeah, that doesn't explain all of the difference. DT are trying to set themselves up for retirement.
Yeah doesn't sound too far from the truth to be honest.
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Some of that can be explained by the recent crash of the pound. Back in 2012 we were at $1.60, now we're at $1.25, so the same amount in dollars costs us about 30% more in pounds. But yeah, that doesn't explain all of the difference. DT are trying to set themselves up for retirement.
Yeah doesn't sound too far from the truth to be honest.
I think Jordan has the higher risk of walking away from touring. The rest of the band maybe has 2-3 more album cycles unless they want to retire earlier than 65.
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Some of that can be explained by the recent crash of the pound. Back in 2012 we were at $1.60, now we're at $1.25, so the same amount in dollars costs us about 30% more in pounds. But yeah, that doesn't explain all of the difference. DT are trying to set themselves up for retirement.
Yeah doesn't sound too far from the truth to be honest.
Do Dream Theater actually set the ticket prices though? Genuine question. I always assumed DT charge an amount for each show and then it’s up to the promoter who pays them to then sell tickets at whatever price he/she feels will make the most profit on their investment.
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Some of that can be explained by the recent crash of the pound. Back in 2012 we were at $1.60, now we're at $1.25, so the same amount in dollars costs us about 30% more in pounds. But yeah, that doesn't explain all of the difference. DT are trying to set themselves up for retirement.
Yeah doesn't sound too far from the truth to be honest.
Do Dream Theater actually set the ticket prices though? Genuine question. I always assumed DT charge an amount for each show and then it’s up to the promoter who pays them to then sell tickets at whatever price he/she feels will make the most profit on their investment.
It's the promoter who sets the ticket prices. DT's fee probably has increased as the band got more popular so ticket prices do go up.
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Well, DT will know how much their costs and overheads are, lighting, screens, travel, hotel and catering requirements, etc, so they have a bottom line on what they want per show.
The promoter is really only adding venue hire and their own costs and profit margin onto that.
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Well, DT will know how much their costs and overheads are, lighting, screens, travel, hotel and catering requirements, etc, so they have a bottom line on what they want per show.
The promoter is really only adding venue hire and their own costs and profit margin onto that.
Although that is basically true, you are still missing a bunch of steps in between DT's own costs and the overall ticket prices. There are lots of costs that the band and their entire team have no idea or control over. And they don't necessarily know or keep track of how many tickets are likely to sell in a given market, which also impacts ticket prices. In short, there are LOTS of variables after the band's guaranteed contract price for taking a gig that impact ticket prices. The band's management team basically says, "We need X to play a gig in this market," and the promotion team in that market factors in all the different variables to come up with a venue that makes sense based on how many tickets they think they can sell, and then sets the ticket prices in an amount that will cover all costs.
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Bosk, it's been too long since you teased us about the upcoming setlist. You should resume promptly! :)
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Come on, man. You know I can't say anything specific. :) I did think of a cute hint that I was considering dropping. But the problem is, you guys are way too sharp for somebody to not figure it out pretty quickly.
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The new leg of the tour starts in exactly one week, so it won't be too long untill we find out :biggrin:
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Very true. I wonder whether the "new" set list will commence immediately, or if they will do the "old" version in those markets where they haven't played yet (I don't know the answer to that). But even though the changes are relatively small, I think the new set will leave people in awe.
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But even though the changes are relatively small, I think the new set will leave people in awe.
I see what you did there. :hat
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Very true. I wonder whether the "new" set list will commence immediately, or if they will do the "old" version in those markets where they haven't played yet (I don't know the answer to that). But even though the changes are relatively small, I think the new set will leave people in awe.
:corn :o
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:lol Wishful thinking. If you are implying what I think you are implying about what you believe I implied, I think I have thoroughly addressed why that is a longshot for this tour as long as they are playing SFAM in its entirety.
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:lol Wishful thinking. If you are implying what I think you are implying about what you believe I implied, I think I have thoroughly addressed why that is a longshot for this tour as long as they are playing SFAM in its entirety.
;)
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Very true. I wonder whether the "new" set list will commence immediately, or if they will do the "old" version in those markets where they haven't played yet (I don't know the answer to that). But even though the changes are relatively small, I think the new set will leave people in awe.
Ooh, I hope they change it for all the venues....I saw the first leg 2x and now they are coming to my home town (yay!!)..so ya.
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Second date added in London.... and both will be filmed!
(Just in from DT's FB)