I don't know if it's believable, but apparently they started off with ACOS.
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dream-theater/2011/castello-scaligero-di-villafranca-di-verona-verona-italy-3bd3649c.html
I don't know if it's believable, but apparently they started off with ACOS.
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dream-theater/2011/castello-scaligero-di-villafranca-di-verona-verona-italy-3bd3649c.html
I don't know if it's believable, but apparently they started off with ACOS.
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dream-theater/2011/castello-scaligero-di-villafranca-di-verona-verona-italy-3bd3649c.html
Sorry, that's a hoax. The show does not start until 21.45 GMT+1, which means 42 minutes from now.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the second show of the 2011 DT Summer Tour.Yay! I'm seeing a pattern here. A great one :D
The show has just started, the first song is...
1. Under A Glass Moon
At first sight, LaBrie sounds more relaxed and at ease than yesterday. But this is just an impression, we'll see as the show progresses.Yay, my prediction was right.
What, they started early?
I hope they don't repeat setlists. I hope they change a lot of the songs!
I can see them change 2-3 songs in the set, but I know its a long shot to see a COMPLETELY different set.I hope they don't repeat setlists. I hope they change a lot of the songs!
i wouldnt count on it. that's already a ton of music for MM to learn and perfect. rotating setlists for his first tour might be a little too much.
The setlist.fm list so far is great! :D
1.A Change of Seasons
2.The Best of Times
3.John Myung Martial Arts Demonstration
4.In The Presence of Enemies (Extended 2 years long version)
I hope they don't repeat setlists. I hope they change a lot of the songs!
i wouldnt count on it. that's already a ton of music for MM to learn and perfect. rotating setlists for his first tour might be a little too much.
The audience is singing MM's name!Epic! The man totally deserves it ^_^
The audience is singing MM's name!
3. Forsaken
The audience is singing MM's name!
The setlist.fm list so far is great! :D:rollin
1.A Change of Seasons
2.The Best of Times
3.John Myung Martial Arts Demonstration
4.In The Presence of Enemies (Extended 2 years long version)
John Thinks He's Randy Song is my favourite DT sing :metal
:rollin
Mangini?John Thinks He's Randy Song is my favourite DT sing :metal
:rollin
Not even a match compared to the classic "Mike Think He Is Dee Dee Ramone Introducing A Song Song"
Mangini?John Thinks He's Randy Song is my favourite DT sing :metal
:rollin
Not even a match compared to the classic "Mike Think He Is Dee Dee Ramone Introducing A Song Song"
You are on the show?
(folks, it is the same setlist of yesterday. If something unexpected happens I'll tell you)
75 guests are wathcing this thread let me say hi to them..... One by one........Lol. I never changed the 60 minute login, so basically I would always seem to be a guest :P I suppose most "guests" are actually members of the site.
I'm here forever :P75 guests are wathcing this thread let me say hi to them..... One by one........Lol. I never changed the 60 minute login, so basically I would always seem to be a guest :P I suppose most "guests" are actually members of the site.
As am I. Dammit. :|I'm here forever :P75 guests are wathcing this thread let me say hi to them..... One by one........Lol. I never changed the 60 minute login, so basically I would always seem to be a guest :P I suppose most "guests" are actually members of the site.
I won't be too surprised if the set lists stay fairly similar for a while at first. You have to remember that Mangini is new to the band, and all of the songs aren't ingrained in his head like they are for the others. That will come with time. Also remember that on both Sherinian and Rudess' first tours with the band, the set lists pretty much stayed the same the whole way through the legs (DS on the Awake tour in the fall/winter of '94, and Rudess on the M:2000 tour in the spring on '00)..
Oh god no...I'm gonna miss my LTL :'(I won't be too surprised if the set lists stay fairly similar for a while at first. You have to remember that Mangini is new to the band, and all of the songs aren't ingrained in his head like they are for the others. That will come with time. Also remember that on both Sherinian and Rudess' first tours with the band, the set lists pretty much stayed the same the whole way through the legs (DS on the Awake tour in the fall/winter of '94, and Rudess on the M:2000 tour in the spring on '00)..
I agree. But it would be cool to change at least the encore song!
I won't be too surprised if the set lists stay fairly similar for a while at first. You have to remember that Mangini is new to the band, and all of the songs aren't ingrained in his head like they are for the others. That will come with time. Also remember that on both Sherinian and Rudess' first tours with the band, the set lists pretty much stayed the same the whole way through the legs (DS on the Awake tour in the fall/winter of '94, and Rudess on the M:2000 tour in the spring on '00)..
I agree. But it would be cool to change at least the encore song!
Encore song could be changed indeed. Wasteland, is it still the same as yesterday?Yesterday Forsaken was 4th and today it's 3rd
Encore song could be changed indeed. Wasteland, is it still the same as yesterday?
Err are you sure? https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dream-theater/2011/ippodromo-capannelle-rome-italy-53d36b01.htmlEncore song could be changed indeed. Wasteland, is it still the same as yesterday?Yesterday Forsaken was 4th and today it's 3rd
My bad, sorry. I'm not there :'(Err are you sure? https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dream-theater/2011/ippodromo-capannelle-rome-italy-53d36b01.htmlEncore song could be changed indeed. Wasteland, is it still the same as yesterday?Yesterday Forsaken was 4th and today it's 3rd
I wasn't there, so I don't know for sure, but...
You could say that we've...:rollin
Been Caught in a Web....
YYEAAAAHHH
NOOOOOO! Italy! Charge your cellphones :'(
Wait. are you saying most of these people went to both of the shows? Anyways, I guess it was sorta expected. At least Mangini got his love from the crowd XDNOOOOOO! Italy! Charge your cellphones :'(
There was actually nothing great to witness.
Yesterday crowd have been amazing, today the atmosphere is somehow less warm. Maybe it's beacause everyone in the audience already knew what the setlist was going to be...
Yeah, that's probably it...anyway, even if I am a little dissapointed with lack of changes, I can't wait for my DT concert ;) Wasteland, encore or too early yet?
Wait. are you saying most of these people went to both of the shows? Anyways, I guess it was sorta expected. At least Mangini got his love from the crowd XDNOOOOOO! Italy! Charge your cellphones :'(
There was actually nothing great to witness.
Yesterday crowd have been amazing, today the atmosphere is somehow less warm. Maybe it's beacause everyone in the audience already knew what the setlist was going to be...
By the way, did his solo sound good? Was it any different?
Actually, something happened: the whole band went directly into The Count after finishing Caught In A Web. Then they realized that things had got horribly wrong and started over with Through My Words. :lolLolwut...brilliant :lol
:lol :lolActually, something happened: the whole band went directly into The Count after finishing Caught In A Web. Then they realized that things had got horribly wrong and started over with Through My Words. :lolLolwut...brilliant :lol
(https://img24.imageshack.us/img24/1927/fdfsdfs.jpg)
A Change of SeasonsDT doing the YMCA. :rollin :rollin :rollin
The Best of Times
John Myung Martial Arts Demonstration
In The Presence of Enemies (Extended 2 years long version)
The Count of Tuscany feat. The Count of Tuscany & The Count's Brother & Dr Dre
Canadian Rap
John Thinks He's Randy Song
John Petrucci Bodybuilding Demonstration
Derek Sherinian Fashion Demonstration
Mike Portnoy Spitting Demonstration
Anna Lee
I Will Survive
Eye Of The Tiger
YMCA
Interlude - Mike Mangini: "I'm Not Mike Portnoy"
Encore:
Prophets of War
:lol
Enjoy!,
i hope they play something like meallicas damage inc just for fun as an encore..... Or play something from the metal alubm from annihiliator that would be fun.... Btw annihilator is underated..... Go Dt bring it on
Well, is the setlist the exact same one?
3. ForsakenI would really like to see a video of this, he looks so happy to begin with I can't imagine his reaction to that
The audience is singing MM's name!
I'm glad they sticking to the one setlist, actually.
Few short clips from tonight are up already:
Intro/Beginning of UaGM - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTZonB_b55M
Early part of OtBoA - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89qPyPZyMCM
Last 5minutes of TCoT - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scSrf1axorA
Instrumental section to the end of Endless Sacrifice (sound quality isn't as good) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcIN47U5vjE
So, even if it's 2am here, and i'm soooooo tired, i'll give you a short review
First of all, i would spend two words for Anathema: what a great band, and what a disappointment that their guitarist had to do self promotion after their gig through the crowd...
Dream Theater: Did you remember James being on stage for less of 1/3 of the show?. Did you remember his detached attitude towards the other members?. Have you ever seen James laughing that hard with JP to quite stop singing?. As far as i know your answer, let me say that now is the opposite.
They've done mistakes. Pretending they won't is something that goes behind ridiculousness. Mangini had some troubles right before UAGM's solo, and here and there he've lost tempo, and JR helped him a lot by clapping his hand on thigh. Petrucci lost sound during OTBOA, and Rudess during The Great Debate, if i'm not wrong (but i bet i am). To me, as opposite of what some italians fan are saying in Fb pages, James sound amazing. I would like to re-watch right now LTL to know if i imagined what i've heard: to me, he sounded almost perfect. Far better from what i've heard from Rome. It seems like Rome and, but we knew that, this tour really serve to getting into shape for the world tour.
But if this is their shape now, i can't even think of what they could do in a couple of months. What an energetic show, Petrucci had a great sound, a JMX too: maybe someone told the band that in Rome MM was too loud and JR too low, 'cause they've clearly exchenged the situation, JR was too loud and MM too low. The Great Debate live is phenomenal, hope you'll have the chance to see it.
About Mike Magini: my father said "they've lost sound". As said by my father,who's a non-musician, i can really understand what he meant. Even if Portnoy in last tours used to do basically always the same things, his mix was loud and aggressive. His focus wasn't to have a sound, but to make noise, and hitting that kit hard. But he made it in the right spots, 'cause he knew perfectly the songs. If i think of things that made DT more popular in the last couple of years, despite IMHO less quality, i'll think about guitar sound and loud drumming.
To me, Magini drumming sounds incredible, but it goes more in a musical direction. And i like it, but i can understand why people may would noticed more than i've done MP absence. I think time will give MM enough confidence to give aggressivness to his sound instead of being scared to make mistaks.
Apart from that, when at the end of the show we screamd MANGINI MANGINI MANGINI he freaked out jumping and clapping and smiling as a happy little boy. I felt so happy for him that you can't even imagine.
About James laughing hard with JP, it happend during TCOT, when lines say "i want to say goodbye, this could be the last time you see me alive" and JP made an hello hand to him... It was hilarious!.
In the end, i really enjoyed the show, i think they're in a really great shape, and i can't wait to ADTOE to come out and to see them again ASAP.
p.s. we got the new camel....
Full version of Under a Glass Moon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qfqkHArxlQThats good stuff :tup
Forsaken: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlzxZx-HzG8
Need to get myself a camera that deals with audio as well as some of these clips :D The one I have is pretty decent given the size of it and how much it cost, but still struggles a bit, mainly with bass.
First Mangini flub @ 4:13 (Under A Glass Moon) Nice recovery though.Nice flub, but this is not the point ;) nice to see that DT are humans also, but MM and other Guys are in great shape, James voice in Verona sounds so much better then in Rome...
Wow, james does sound really good in these vids
I wasn't knocking Mike, just pointing out a funny flub... the guy is unbelievable. I can't imagine the pressure that's on him right now but everything that I've heard so far I'm happy with and on top of that he's incredibly humble. I hate to even compare him to MP but the main difference I hear is "pocket presence" ...in which MP never really had imo. he would often speed up songs in certain parts or slow them a bit. - so other than being a technical monster, Mangini can keep a solid groove & stay tightly in the pocket which I really admire.This, I totally agree. You just can feel the feeling of the songs that MM does. Listen to the beginning of Under The Glass Moon... No comments needed :tup
Damn, James is kicking major asses, listen to the Endless Sacrifice video at ~3:45.
Lol, he's doing like over 5 extreme notes a show now. The man is on fire :DDamn, James is kicking major asses, listen to the Endless Sacrifice video at ~3:45.
Good grace, that's a F5!!
Lol, he's doing like over 5 extreme notes a show now. The man is on fire :DDamn, James is kicking major asses, listen to the Endless Sacrifice video at ~3:45.
Good grace, that's a F5!!
Also the one in Peruvian Skies when they played it in Peru @ 2009.Lol, he's doing like over 5 extreme notes a show now. The man is on fire :DDamn, James is kicking major asses, listen to the Endless Sacrifice video at ~3:45.
Good grace, that's a F5!!
Especially since he did only one extreme note in the whole BCSL tour (a high F in As I Am)
Yeah, but he wants pictures from the show in Verona, not in Rome...Shit, sorry ;) I missed threads :) they are so close to each other :P
Caught in a Web
Audio is good, video is shocking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4P1ap3E6pA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4P1ap3E6pA)
James sounds great! :metal
Wrong thread
Caught in a Web
Audio is good, video is shocking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4P1ap3E6pA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4P1ap3E6pA)
James sounds great! :metal
Wrong thread
Nice, but that's Rome, not Verona!
That's why I put wrong thread, forgot to put edit ha ;)
(and when you said shocking I though it was in a positive way. Is "shocking" only used to imply negativity?)
I say shocking when ever something is bad...maybe it's an English thing. :)
I'm glad they sticking to the one setlist, actually.
and why is that? Just wondering, I always enjoy that you never know what is to come in a DT setlist, kind of
I don't know about anyone else, but it's hard not to get a little emotional while watching these clips. Sadness for MP not being there, pride in the other guys for coming up roses with MM, the crowds acceptance of MM and how I wish I could be at these shows. It's a new day, and I feel so privileged to be a fan of the best band in the world.Well to be honest, James had better times IMO... ;) From these clips which I saw for now, He had some great, incredible moments, and some bad moments (like first verse in Learning To Live in Roma). Maybe it's because it's just the beginning of the tour. His voice sounds better in Verona than in Rome, IMO he needs a few shows to open up, and it will be very good ;)
Also, what the fuck? Anyone who watches these clips can't deny that James is kicking some serious ass. The opening to UAGM and the last section of CIAW alone should silence the doubters. He's just as much of a monster as the other 4.
LONG LIVE DREAM THEATER!!! :metal
Oh God, oh God, The Count of Tuscany! The Great Debate! Learning To Live! Under A Glass Moon! Please, please, don't rotate anything till Vienna gig
Oh God, oh God, The Count of Tuscany! The Great Debate! Learning To Live! Under A Glass Moon! Please, please, don't rotate anything till Vienna gig
I don't think they will change the setlist in this tour. Impossibile for MM to do a new album and learn other ten albums of insane drumming.
Couldn't hear any cracks. His voice indeed went a little thin, because that's a really hard passage, but it sounded OK to me.The one that stood out the most imo was "is the thirst of desire"...there weren't many cracks, but it was just a little throwback to 2005. That's my point XD
Some photos from Verona
https://metalitalia.com/galleria_fotografica/dream-theater-le-foto-del-concerto-a-villafranca/
About James laughing hard with JP, it happend during TCOT, when lines say "i want to say goodbye, this could be the last time you see me alive" and JP made an hello hand to him... It was hilarious!.
4:15 is the closest ive heard JLB go to the harshness of the awake singing, well since then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8esg4TY8b7I
WOWOWOW, that is great :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin There You have
About James laughing hard with JP, it happend during TCOT, when lines say "i want to say goodbye, this could be the last time you see me alive" and JP made an hello hand to him... It was hilarious!.
Would be great to see that on video
haha :lolReally gold moment of this tour ;) Great!! :lol
^That is quite funny actually :lolI was looking for that video, thanks, funny stuff in Verona ;) First a little time mistake from MM, than The Count Of Tuscany instead of Fatal Tragedy and JP's waving "hello" :)
JLB: "I prefer doing this one" :metal
Watching the clips from this show atm and I have to say. Think LaBrie sounds awesome!! I was pretty "meh" about his performance in Rome. Thought it was a bit bland and lacked energy .. from most of these clips he seems to be pretty spot on, and in better shape overwall :) Great stuff!!
Edit... so, im through watching all clips (with acceptable sound quality) I could find. I'll change my first assessment and rephrase it to "LaBrie is a f--ing legend!" :D Really looking forward to seeing them in Norway when the time comes. By then I'll be living just 15 minutes from the venue as well.. weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :metal Any norwegians here who would like to guess (or knows) when they'll be playing in Oslo btw? :)
I'm working on a DVD of this show. Video quality is not really top notch, but the audio is really enjoyable! Stay tuned! :hat
Back to English... I just saw Endless Sacrifice from Verona, and HOLY ****! That note in the chorus is the highest I've ever heard James. Really good to know that he's back, and can't wait to hear how he improves during the tour!
I'm working on a DVD of this show. Video quality is not really top notch, but the audio is really enjoyable! Stay tuned! :hat
Really?? I can't wait for this release, how do you plan to release? Torrent, emule or something like Rapidhsare??
Back to English... I just saw Endless Sacrifice from Verona, and HOLY ****! That note in the chorus is the highest I've ever heard James. Really good to know that he's back, and can't wait to hear how he improves during the tour!
It is not, it's just a high F (which is very high but not his highest ever), half a tone below the classic Learning To Live note. But it is quite understandable, the way it was sung really made it sound higher than it actually was. ;)
Just for information, I am quite sure that James has (can?) reached in the past the A# (Cementary Gates or Number Of The Beast, I can't remember now). In the old days (92/93) he used to effortlessy hit the high G (Pull Me Under, The Killing Hand, Oh Holy Night), now I don't think he can afford to go much higher than the F# without sounding like a chicken being strangled (Lines In The Sand @CiM).
It is not, it's just a high F (which is very high but not his highest ever), half a tone below the classic Learning To Live note. But it is quite understandable, the way it was sung really made it sound higher than it actually was. ;)
Just for information, I am quite sure that James has (can?) reached in the past the A# (Cementary Gates or Number Of The Beast, I can't remember now). In the old days (92/93) he used to effortlessy hit the high G (Pull Me Under, The Killing Hand, Oh Holy Night), now I don't think he can afford to go much higher than the F# without sounding like a chicken being strangled (Lines In The Sand @CiM).