Author Topic: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread! (Read 917559 times)

bl5150 · « **Reply #3815 on:** January 27, 2016, 03:02:01 AM »

Quote from: Kwyjibo on January 27, 2016, 12:44:54 AM

Quote from: jjrock88 on January 26, 2016, 05:02:47 PM
You don't wish someone you hate a birthday message lol

I think it's a pretty safe bet that Sammy will be brought back again

Did Sammy really say that he hates Eddie?

I don't think he has ever said that he hates him but his book (which I haven't read) apparently doesn't hold back and he released a Youtube vid a month or two ago where he says "Fuck you Eddie Van Halen" , so at the very least it's a very sudden change in tone between the two.

Whether it leads to anything ...........who knows. Eddie has very recently had his 5150 Steinberger Trans Trem restored (used for Summer Nights, Get Up etc...)and has indicated that he is ready play those songs again. I wouldn't be surprised if something happened in the next 12 months , but you never know with these guys.

jjrock88 · « **Reply #3816 on:** January 27, 2016, 03:13:43 AM »

Yeah who knows if it was actually hatred, that would seem pretty strong. But there was definitely a strong dislike based on what both had been saying about each other. I haven't read Sammys book, but it seems that he doesn't hold back.

Kwyjibo · « **Reply #3817 on:** January 27, 2016, 03:31:47 AM »

I just wanted to say that I don't believe about 99% of what they both say. Its always like "F*ck you, but I still wish you all the best".

They probably won't become close friends again, if they ever really were. And everything could happen in the future and I wouldn't mind if they work together again.

And I'm really curious how they then would work out the Michael Anthony thing.

bl5150 · « **Reply #3818 on:** January 27, 2016, 03:39:32 AM »

Quote from: Kwyjibo on January 27, 2016, 03:31:47 AM

I just wanted to say that I don't believe about 99% of what they both say. Its always like "F*ck you, but I still wish you all the best".

They probably won't become close friends again, if they ever really were. And everything could happen in the future and I wouldn't mind if they work together again.

And I'm really curious how they then would work out the Michael Anthony thing.

EVH and DLR have only ever tolerated each other , so I don't see that as a huge barrier. I think they just have to get past everything and agree to work together for mutual benefit. Plenty of bands do it .

One thing I do have a feeling about is that I reckon EVH might make Sammy accept that their gigs cannot be only Sammy songs and that would open it up for Mike/Wolf to sing the DLR songs. Wolfy has a solo album due out in coming months and his Facebook profile recently said something like "in Van Halen...........for now". So perhaps if Sammy and Ed can get past it ,then Mike can too.

Ed has treated a number of people very poorly when he was meth'd out - he seems in good health now so if it's ever going to work (and bearing in mind Sammy is pushing 70) , then now is definitely the time. Right now

Deathless · « **Reply #3819 on:** January 27, 2016, 04:59:30 AM »

Wow, Eddie even tweeted Sammie back. Something happening here?

wolfking · « **Reply #3820 on:** January 27, 2016, 05:03:48 AM »

Getting interesting indeed.

Kwyjibo · « **Reply #3821 on:** January 27, 2016, 05:23:13 AM »

I like how a simple tweet sets the whole Van Halen fanbase on fire.

If John Petrucci would wish Kevin Moore a Happy Birthday, would we interpret that as a sure sign that Kevin's coming back? Ok, we in this forum probably would.

bl5150 · « **Reply #3822 on:** January 27, 2016, 05:33:24 AM »

Quote from: Kwyjibo on January 27, 2016, 05:23:13 AM

I like how a simple tweet sets the whole Van Halen fanbase on fire.

I agree it's a stretch but with DLR rumoured to be out/trying to talk the Eat Em And Smile lineup back and all these little pieces of info it adds up to a little bit more than nothing.

The difference between JP and Sammy tweeting is that Sammy/JP would know the effect their tweets are going to have ( a lot/nothing respectively). If you want to keep it quiet , send a card/make a call. At the very least this is the guys publically/knowingly putting it out there that some fences have been mended.

Kwyjibo · « **Reply #3823 on:** January 27, 2016, 05:45:44 AM »

Don't misunderstand me, I'm totally with you and I'm participating in the specualtion and rumors and I also think that something is going on. I just find it funny nonetheless, how we, the fans, take every little bit of information and analyse it to death.

bl5150 · « **Reply #3824 on:** January 27, 2016, 05:51:16 AM »

OK - let's shut up then. Don't want this to become DT-side

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #3825 on:** January 27, 2016, 05:53:51 AM »

Quote from: bl5150 on January 27, 2016, 05:51:16 AM

OK - let's shut up then. Don't want this to become DT-side

Having just been in DT side, I agree wholeheartedly.

Let's get back to arguing about each other's music!

TAC · « **Reply #3826 on:** January 27, 2016, 12:30:24 PM »

Quote from: bl5150 on January 27, 2016, 05:51:16 AM

Don't want this to become DT-side

But I was thinking that maybe after we've all had the weekend to give The Astonishing a few listens, perhaps we could have a small discussion group here amongst the regulars on Monday or so as opposed to wasting time posting in a sea of posts on the DT Side.

jingle.boy · « **Reply #3827 on:** January 27, 2016, 12:49:35 PM »

Quote from: TAC on January 27, 2016, 12:30:24 PM

Quote from: bl5150 on January 27, 2016, 05:51:16 AM
Don't want this to become DT-side

But I was thinking that maybe after we've all had the weekend to give The Astonishing a few listens, perhaps we could have a small discussion group here amongst the regulars on Monday or so as opposed to wasting time posting in a sea of posts on the DT Side.

I'm down with that.

jjrock88 · « **Reply #3828 on:** January 27, 2016, 01:06:22 PM »

I live inside this thread so that sounds good to me!

I get lost many times in the sea of posts on the DT side lol.

bl5150 · « **Reply #3829 on:** January 27, 2016, 01:48:33 PM »

Quote from: TAC on January 27, 2016, 12:30:24 PM

Quote from: bl5150 on January 27, 2016, 05:51:16 AM
Don't want this to become DT-side

But I was thinking that maybe after we've all had the weekend to give The Astonishing a few listens, perhaps we could have a small discussion group here amongst the regulars on Monday or so as opposed to wasting time posting in a sea of posts on the DT Side.

All good - I was just referring to analysing every morsel of info to death. Having listened to it once myself ,I will be interested to see how much the group here differ in their views on the new DT from the "proggy style" crowd. It could be quite a lot................or not.

I am about to have a second go , but at this point I am pretty sure that it's (mostly) not my cuppa tea.

TAC · « **Reply #3830 on:** January 27, 2016, 02:00:06 PM »

I've really been hoping for an album with piano and James so I'm happy with that.

This album is like if Elton John and King Diamond got together to make an album.

bl5150 · « **Reply #3831 on:** January 27, 2016, 02:04:03 PM »

Quote from: TAC on January 27, 2016, 02:00:06 PM

This album is like if Elton John and King Diamond got together to make an album.

Lucky for DT you're not marketing it.

TAC · « **Reply #3832 on:** January 27, 2016, 02:07:59 PM »

Quote from: bl5150 on January 27, 2016, 02:04:03 PM

Quote from: TAC on January 27, 2016, 02:00:06 PM

This album is like if Elton John and King Diamond got together to make an album.

Lucky for DT you're not marketing it.

I have a never ending quest to turn people onto Dream Theater.

jingle.boy · « **Reply #3833 on:** January 27, 2016, 02:35:08 PM »

Quote from: bl5150 on January 27, 2016, 01:48:33 PM

Quote from: TAC on January 27, 2016, 12:30:24 PM
Quote from: bl5150 on January 27, 2016, 05:51:16 AM
Don't want this to become DT-side

But I was thinking that maybe after we've all had the weekend to give The Astonishing a few listens, perhaps we could have a small discussion group here amongst the regulars on Monday or so as opposed to wasting time posting in a sea of posts on the DT Side.

All good - I was just referring to analysing every morsel of info to death. Having listened to it once myself ,I will be interested to see how much the group here differ in their views on the new DT from the "proggy style" crowd. It could be quite a lot................or not. I am about to have a second go , but at this point I am pretty sure that it's (mostly) not my cuppa tea.

yeah, I only got up to the end of disc 1 before Bandcamp took the page down. Definitely a lot to digest, and it's definitely not ToT-heavy. Not surprising to hear it's not in your wheelhouse. I'll be interested on JJ's take too.

jjrock88 · « **Reply #3834 on:** January 27, 2016, 02:56:53 PM »

It's not sounding like it will be a go to Dream Theater album

Is it slower/mid tempo for the most part?

bl5150 · « **Reply #3835 on:** January 27, 2016, 03:04:53 PM »

Quote from: jjrock88 on January 27, 2016, 02:56:53 PM

It's not sounding like it will be a go to Dream Theater album

Is it slower/mid tempo for the most part?

I would say yes.........and , as far as my taste goes, very few "self contained" songs that stand on their own outside of the story - maybe 4 or 5 out of 34 tracks that I am interested in returning to for an individual listen at this point. I can't see it being of much interest unless you're prepared to get invested in the characters and the story........and for me, I'll only bother with that if the music drags me in. That might seem back to front for some , but that's how it is with me and concept albums.

I'll have another listen this afternoon and post thoughts. For what is is , I think it's pretty good but "what it is" is a big part of the problem for me - an issue that many here will not have.

jjrock88 · « **Reply #3836 on:** January 27, 2016, 04:23:48 PM »

It should be an interesting listen. I can't see myself getting too invested in the storyline or characters though

wolfking · « **Reply #3837 on:** January 27, 2016, 07:18:46 PM »

I'm getting a Nostradamus feel from it to be honest. Interested in hearing it. Don't know how much dedicated time I'll have over the week to fully absorb it though. It may sit on the back burner for me for a while.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #3838 on:** January 27, 2016, 08:58:32 PM »

This the hard rock / classic metal thread, dangit.

Stick to hard rock / classic metal!
I come to this thread to get far away from that shit.

wolfking · « **Reply #3839 on:** January 27, 2016, 08:59:54 PM »

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #3840 on:** January 27, 2016, 09:00:12 PM »

Make me!

wolfking · « **Reply #3841 on:** January 27, 2016, 09:01:23 PM »

Bolsters · « **Reply #3842 on:** January 28, 2016, 12:23:45 AM »

DT related post just to annoy Blob:

I've listened to it twice. So far I think there's a couple of decent things on the first disc but nothing is blowing me away. I remember very little from the second disc though, I think after almost 80 minutes listening to the first I kind of tune the second one out, it's a lot to take in all at once and it doesn't help that both discs lacks variety and everything blurs together a bit. One day I will listen to the second on its own and see what happens.

But yeah, maybe it will grow on me but first impressions are that it's pretty average.

I haven't paid any attention to the story, I could not give any less of a shit about that.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #3843 on:** January 28, 2016, 12:48:02 AM »

On the plus side, I agree with you.

And on the plus side, I still don't think we're allowed to discuss it yet anyway.

bl5150 · « **Reply #3844 on:** January 28, 2016, 01:39:15 AM »

On the plus side I pretty much agree with everything Bolsters said too.

Kwyjibo · « **Reply #3845 on:** January 28, 2016, 03:01:32 AM »

Primal Fear are one of those bands that were somehow underneath my radar. I'm sure I heard a couple tunes over time but nothing I can recall.

Yesterday I had a good listen of Rulebreaker and that was a great first impression. Maybe the album was one or two songs too long but nonetheless left a mark. Is album representative, better, worse than their back catalogue?

wolfking · « **Reply #3846 on:** January 28, 2016, 04:09:18 AM »

Quote from: Kwyjibo on January 28, 2016, 03:01:32 AM

Primal Fear are one of those bands that were somehow underneath my radar. I'm sure I heard a couple tunes over time but nothing I can recall.

Yesterday I had a good listen of Rulebreaker and that was a great first impression. Maybe the album was one or two songs too long but nonetheless left a mark. Is album representative, better, worse than their back catalogue?

Can't comment, but their entire catalog is nothing short of solid. Check;

Delivering the Black
Devil's Ground
Seven Seals
Nuclear Fire
Black Sun

In regards to the DT, I have a feeling that I will have the same opinions.

jjrock88 · « **Reply #3847 on:** January 28, 2016, 08:14:57 AM »

You truly can't go wrong with any album from Primal Fear

Evermind · « **Reply #3848 on:** January 28, 2016, 08:40:36 AM »

I've checked out the new Primal Fear and yeah, it's pretty good even if a bit by the numbers. Don't think it's going to beat Delivering the Black in my book, but I enjoyed it. Highlights for me (in order): We Walk Without Fear (aka One Night in December pt. 2

), Bullets & Tears and The End is Near. There was also a great track somewhere near the end but I don't remember which one because I listened on the road and it was raining (in January. In Moscow. FFS) so I wasn't in the mood to check out the title on my phone.

Solid album overall.

wolfking · « **Reply #3849 on:** January 28, 2016, 12:35:40 PM »

I don't think this will surpass DTB for me. Gonna order it tonight.

News: Track-by-track video for Untethered Angel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Co1_h0GtAw

Author Topic: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread! (Read 917559 times)