Game of Thrones (TV, fantasy) Thread

[Podaar]

[BlackInk]

I bet you killing all the White Walkers would stop the wights as well. I think maybe there isn't that many actual White Walkers and that's why they need to make wights to have foot soldiers, just a speculation.

Yea, that would make sense too, but I do wonder how many white walkers there actually are.  Since we know the Nights King was able to turn Crasters baby into one (as a baby too, so I guess that means they can grow) and we can assume Craster has had many baby boys based on how many girls he had, then that could add up to a decent amount right there assuming they aren't turning other humans into WW.  So much to speculate on them and really nothing to go on besides what we saw in the show.  The books don't give any insight into them besides a slight history on the Nights King which was just an ancient story, but Old Nan's stories all seem to be true so far.

Craster said that he had had 99 sons. And I think there are probably more from before Craster came along. I think that, while the wights are obviously more numerous, there are a lot more actual white walkers than we've seen. The Night's King's back story also suggests that there are woman white walkers.

And I still doubt that they were all human from the beginning though. But that's just me, and that might very well be wrong.

[hefdaddy42]

Supposedly, we should learn more about the origins of the Walkers in the next novel, which Martin has said he wants published before season 6 of the show airs (which means he has less than a year; I'll believe it when I see it).

[cramx3]

Supposedly, we should learn more about the origins of the Walkers in the next novel, which Martin has said he wants published before season 6 of the show airs (which means he has less than a year; I'll believe it when I see it).

That would be a miracle, but would also be awesome.

[faizoff]

I thought the next book was mostly already written with there being a 1500 page manuscript already. All that was needed was editing it down, wasn't there some talk also about possibly being a 3rd book remaining as well? I don't remember the details or sources as I never started caring about news regarding the books until I started reading them.

[RuRoRul]

I thought the next book was mostly already written with there being a 1500 page manuscript already. All that was needed was editing it down, wasn't there some talk also about possibly being a 3rd book remaining as well? I don't remember the details or sources as I never started caring about news regarding the books until I started reading them.

It's obviously not known exactly how much he has written, but the last pieces of information we got definitely didn't indicate it was mostly written or that there was 1500 pages ready.

The book that was "already mostly written" you may be thinking of was A Dance With Dragons, the fifth one. His manuscript was getting too long to be one book so he released the fourth book (A Feast For Crows) with only about half of the point of view characters in it, then he was going to release the parallel book with the other characters "next year".

A Feast For Crows came out in 2005. A Dance With Dragons was releasd in 2011.

[faizoff]

It's entirely possible I'm mixing it up but I remember reading about this between the airing of season 3 and season 4. I had bought the books at the time but hadn't started reading them until very recently.

[Evermind]

Hahaha, yeah, A Dance with Dragons was "almost written" when AFFC came out. GRRM predicted he could publish it the next year after AFFC. Since then he predicted a lot of things, basically saying "ADWD will totally come out this year" for six years in a row.

So I'm with Hef here, I'll believe it when I see it.

[cramx3]

Yea I do believe he has a lot written, but I don't believe that means he is close to completion.

[BlackInk]

He has said in multiple interview that he doesn't really make those predictions anymore since he has realized that he always gets it wrong. That he actually says it now anyways means to me that there is actually a possibility for it to be true.

[gmillerdrake]

He has said in multiple interview that he doesn't really make those predictions anymore since he has realized that he always gets it wrong. That he actually says it now anyways means to me that there is actually a possibility for it to be true.

well.....eventually he will be done and be right 

[cramx3]

He has said in multiple interview that he doesn't really make those predictions anymore since he has realized that he always gets it wrong. That he actually says it now anyways means to me that there is actually a possibility for it to be true.

well.....eventually he will be done and be right 

Well unless something tragic happens which is something many people fear will be the case before he finishes the series.

[faizoff]

Apparently the lady who recently got killed at the South African safari by a lion worked in visual effects and did so for GOT.
https://mashable.com/2015/06/03/katherine-chappell-lion-attack/

[MrBoom_shack-a-lack]

That's so sad, what a horrific way to die.

[King Postwhore]

Why the hell would you have your door open or your window down going through a safari full of lions?  Man, I would have the doors locked even though I know Loins don't know how to use handles.

[hefdaddy42]

[King Postwhore]

Hardhome episode described by GIF's on TV.com.



https://www.tv.com/shows/game-of-thrones/community/post/game-of-thrones-hardhome-battle-gifs-143319340475/

[cramx3]

  I cant wait for the traditional season climax tonight!

[Progmetty]

Jon Snow is a terrible dinner guest

[orcus116]

I was almost sure Stannis' wife was going to stab Melisandre to death.

[faizoff]

I was expecting a bigger set of events lol. I sorta guessed Drogon's appearance would happen but not the sons of Harpy attack. That part was awesome. Heartbreaking moment with Stannis and his wife. Man I can't believe the season is almost done.

[orcus116]

My friends predicted the dragon coming but that was a little too Deus Ex Machina for my liking. I probably shouldn't complain since under any normal circumstances all of those characters would be dead without the dragon showing up but I expect a little better from GOT.

[Dimitrius]

So, how about that Stannis?

Honestly, I was shocked even though I could see it coming from the way the episode was going, but I don't think it's a bad thing. Stannis was never suppose to be a hero, or a villain, he's just someone who's gonna go to any length to get the Iron Throne not because he wants it but because the law says it's rightfully his.

[faizoff]

Also I thought this was the best Dorne section of the season so far. We needed more Doran throughout the season.

[gmillerdrake]

So, how about that Stannis?

Honestly, I was shocked even though I could see it coming from the way the episode was going, but I don't think it's a bad thing. Stannis was never suppose to be a hero, or a villain, he's just someone who's gonna go to any length to get the Iron Throne not because he wants it but because the law says it's rightfully his.

Yeah, this. I mean...the scenes with he and his daughter did a lot to make the scene of her being burned at the stake that much ,ore powerful. Had he not been developed a tad more this season it'd not have been that big a deal for that to happen. I don't know about any other parents out there who watched that....but it was BRUTAL to hear her screaming for her Dad like that. 

The Mereen scenes were good. I'm guessing when Danys "husband" showed up late saying he was making sure things were in order he had orchestrated or was a part of the whole SOH attack? I liked the fact that Tyrion seemed to impress Dany as well with his comments. And, although it was expected/predictable that Drogon was going to show up.....I friggin' loved every bit of it! That was definately a cool rescue.

I don't think I have any doubts now...even in that brief scene....that the little sh%t Olly is going to try and kill Jon. He has a 'look' about him....

[Progmetty]

GoT has probably spoiled me but I thought the dragon ride at the end could have used some better shots.
I'm also a little taken by how weak the dragon is, this is the creature that fought in the Targaryen conquest wars against Westerosi armies? is it me or did he look like he was about to die after 4 spears?
Was funny that an event like that wasn't packed with Unsullied soldiers..
Very interested to see how Shireen's death pays off to Stannis.
Seems like there's a whole lot of cover next episode.

[sneakyblueberry]

Its amazing how the Unsullied are meant to be these awesome soldiers, yet almost every time they're involved in a skirmish they get their ass and balls handed to them.

Love how from the start of the episode you could see Stannis had a cuply screws loose, he looks so fucked up.  That whole scene with his daughter was heartbreaking especially with her screaming like that, as gmillerdrake said.

[faizoff]

They looked outnumbered and I believe they fight better in formation, I dunno. I think at some point they should show them in full kick ass combat style and not the pansy always surprised and outmatched fights they've been in so far.

[cramx3]

Well so much for Stannis turning into that likeable character I was talking about earlier this season.  Seems he went to the dark side last night.  The screams were powerful and scarey, that was a really emotional scene and while it did not happen (or not yet) in the books, many people had speculated it would happen, but I was still surprised they went with it.

As for the Unsullied, it didn't seem like there was many there at all and I can only assume there weren't because the opening of the pits was supposed to be a peaceful event to stop the attacks.  While many book readers believe Hizdar could have been leading the Sons of the Harpy... he died in the TV being stabbed while he is still alive in the books, so I am guessing he actually may be innocent? 

That scene with Meryn Trant in the brother and "younger" was pretty messed up.  The girl I was watching with and I both thought that was worse than the Sansa rape.

Really good episode overall, but not as good as Hardhome and the previous episode 9s.

[hefdaddy42]

My friends predicted the dragon coming but that was a little too Deus Ex Machina for my liking. I probably shouldn't complain since under any normal circumstances all of those characters would be dead without the dragon showing up but I expect a little better from GOT.

In the book, if I'm not mistaken, when Drogon showed up the fights had been going on for a while, and the reader is led to believe that he was attracted by the noise of the stadium and the blood in the air, not from any intent to save anyone.

I'm also a little taken by how weak the dragon is, this is the creature that fought in the Targaryen conquest wars against Westerosi armies? is it me or did he look like he was about to die after 4 spears?

These dragons are still young.  The ones used in the Targaryen conquest were much older, much larger, and much more powerful.

[faizoff]

I might be mistaken but my initial thought was that Drogon appeared much smaller than what they showed him in the earlier episode in the season.

[faizoff]

Was also thinking how contrasting the endings of the last two episodes were, one a fight featuring the theme of Ice and the other ending with Fire.

[Phoenix87x]

I would like to see the girl's burning at the stake lead to nothing, and then Stannis rip the Red woman apart for the charlatan that she is.

[cramx3]

Was also thinking how contrasting the endings of the last two episodes were, one a fight featuring the theme of Ice and the other ending with Fire.

Good point.  I guess those two scenes ate up a lot of the budget this season. 

[hefdaddy42]

I might be mistaken but my initial thought was that Drogon appeared much smaller than what they showed him in the earlier episode in the season.

Not that I noticed.