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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1435 on: July 30, 2012, 02:33:18 PM »
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How is this an argument? Katie is a hundred times cuter than Maggie.

Katie is indeed much cuter. Katie has a "awww she's so cute, let's pat her head and lick her boobs" quality. Maggie has a "Let's take her into a dark ally somewhere, bang the hell out of her and then only call her when we want to do it again" quality.

I'm cool with both.



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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1436 on: July 30, 2012, 02:34:12 PM »
So does anyone think that Christopher Nolan was trying to draw a parallel between Bane and his cult to the 99%ers?
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1437 on: July 30, 2012, 02:35:04 PM »
Quote from: Adami on July 30, 2012, 02:33:18 PM
Quote from: Ħ on July 30, 2012, 02:32:00 PM
How is this an argument? Katie is a hundred times cuter than Maggie.

Katie is indeed much cuter. Katie has a "awww she's so cute, let's pat her head and lick her boobs" quality. Maggie has a "Let's take her into a dark ally somewhere, bang the hell out of her and then only call her when we want to do it again" quality.

I'm cool with both.



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No idea. Anne Hathaway easily takes the cake on either.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1438 on: July 30, 2012, 02:35:41 PM »
Quote from: Fourth Horseman on July 30, 2012, 02:34:12 PM
So does anyone think that Christopher Nolan was trying to draw a parallel between Bane and his cult to the 99%ers?

I think he was inspired by it and took the idea and did whatever he wanted with it. I doubt he was trying to make a message out of it the way everyone is positive he was.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1439 on: July 30, 2012, 02:36:08 PM »
Quote from: Ħ on July 30, 2012, 02:35:04 PM
Quote from: Adami on July 30, 2012, 02:33:18 PM
Quote from: Ħ on July 30, 2012, 02:32:00 PM
How is this an argument? Katie is a hundred times cuter than Maggie.

Katie is indeed much cuter. Katie has a "awww she's so cute, let's pat her head and lick her boobs" quality. Maggie has a "Let's take her into a dark ally somewhere, bang the hell out of her and then only call her when we want to do it again" quality.

I'm cool with both.



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No idea. Anne Hathaway easily takes the cake on either.

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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1440 on: July 30, 2012, 02:39:56 PM »
Quote from: Fourth Horseman on July 30, 2012, 02:34:12 PM
So does anyone think that Christopher Nolan was trying to draw a parallel between Bane and his cult to the 99%ers?

Here we go again. :lol If you're interested, I wrote about that in a review of TDKR on my blog, although now the record can show that Nolan has personally come out and said that any such parallels were unintentional.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1441 on: July 30, 2012, 03:02:28 PM »
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I loved banes voice, it had a perfect sense of grandeur. It displayed that he knew he was above you, and that was what he portrayed in every other way as well.

I liked his voice but it was weirdly mixed. It sounded like Brian Blessed was shouting into the mic constantly.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1442 on: July 30, 2012, 03:04:02 PM »
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I loved banes voice, it had a perfect sense of grandeur. It displayed that he knew he was above you, and that was what he portrayed in every other way as well.

I liked his voice but it was weirdly mixed. It sounded like Brian Blessed was shouting into the mic constantly.

I assume all of his dialogue was re-recorded after bad reviews of his voice in the initial trailers. Plus he's supposed to be speaking through that mask thing, which would obviously distort it. But it had too much high end.
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« Reply #1443 on: July 30, 2012, 03:07:29 PM »
I don't remember what his voice sounded like in those trailers, I'll have to rewatch.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1444 on: July 30, 2012, 03:08:21 PM »
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I don't remember what his voice sounded like in those trailers, I'll have to rewatch.

It sounded similar, but it was impossible to tell what the hell he was ever saying.
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« Reply #1445 on: July 30, 2012, 03:12:05 PM »
Hell, I still think sometimes it was hard to understand what he was saying.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1446 on: July 30, 2012, 03:17:51 PM »
Yeah, I definitely didn't get all of his dialogue.
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« Reply #1447 on: July 30, 2012, 03:19:32 PM »
I got most of it. But there was that scene where he's talking to bruce in the jail and I missed a bunch of stuff there.


However from what I understand, 99% of the original dialogue of his was completely unintelligible.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1448 on: July 30, 2012, 03:36:31 PM »
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I got most of it. But there was that scene where he's talking to bruce in the jail and I missed a bunch of stuff there.


However from what I understand, 99% of the original dialogue of his was completely unintelligible.

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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1449 on: July 30, 2012, 10:08:39 PM »
supposedly this is this difference in Bane's voice (which I was under the impression was remixed rather than rerecorded).

As far as the two Rachel Dawes, (Anne Hatheway >>>>>>>) Katie Holmes >>> Maggie Gyllenhaal. Even if Maggie's a better actress, her change in tone to how Katie Holmes played Ms. Dawes is the only real flaw in The Dark Knight for me.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1450 on: July 30, 2012, 10:22:27 PM »
I mean.......I guess it's possible that it was remixed, But given the clarity of the new version, I'd say it's way more likely that it was re-recorded.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1451 on: July 30, 2012, 10:23:38 PM »
This might be a stupid question, but I'm assuming Bill will at least have the answer. When you know you're doing a series of movies, or even when it's only a possibility, don't actors and actresses sign a contract that would in some way lock them up for the future films? I never followed the Holmes story, but I would have assumed she would have been locked up for however long Nolan needed her.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1452 on: July 30, 2012, 10:27:40 PM »
Sometimes actors sign up for multi-movie deals, sometimes they don't.  I know Samuel L. Jackson signed up for all his appearances in the Marvel Cinematic Universe movies at once, which was like a 7-movie contract.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1453 on: July 30, 2012, 10:28:32 PM »
Quote from: Nick on July 30, 2012, 10:23:38 PM
This might be a stupid question, but I'm assuming Bill will at least have the answer. When you know you're doing a series of movies, or even when it's only a possibility, don't actors and actresses sign a contract that would in some way lock them up for the future films? I never followed the Holmes story, but I would have assumed she would have been locked up for however long Nolan needed her.

Sometimes. But not always. It really just depends on the studio etc.


Edit: also just checked out that comparison video for Bane's voice. It's definitely re-recorded.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1454 on: July 30, 2012, 10:31:30 PM »
Okay, next question, why in the the world in this instance did they not sign her for multi-movies?
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1455 on: July 30, 2012, 10:33:15 PM »
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Okay, next question, why in the the world in this instance did they not sign her for multi-movies?


Dunno. It happens pretty often when sequels have different actors. It just happens.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1456 on: July 30, 2012, 10:34:35 PM »
Well, a lot of these deals are "options".  It's possible an option to act in the remaining Nolan Batman films was included in Holmes' contract, which she then didn't take.  Actors like these because they aren't necessarily locked in if they didn't like the film or if Nolan turned out to be a dick or something. 

It's also possible there was no mention of a sequel in the contract.  There wasn't a whole lot of forward planning in the trilogy.  What we know is that Nolan wanted her back, but she didn't want to come back.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
« Reply #1457 on: July 31, 2012, 05:45:21 AM »
So this movie was great. Alot better than Begins but not as good as TDK, which was expected. Bane's voice was a bit weird at first but I got used to it.
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« Reply #1458 on: July 31, 2012, 06:40:29 AM »
Gyllenhaal >>> Holmes.  The former can act.
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« Reply #1459 on: July 31, 2012, 06:42:54 AM »
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Gyllenhaal >>> Holmes.  The former can act.

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« Reply #1460 on: July 31, 2012, 07:06:15 AM »
I thought I remembered reading at the time that the studio wasn't crazy about having her back either because when she was doing PR for Batman Begins she ended up talking about her relationship with Tom Cruise as much as the movie.
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« Reply #1461 on: July 31, 2012, 11:05:34 AM »
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Gyllenhaal >>> Holmes.  The former can act.

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« Reply #1462 on: July 31, 2012, 11:20:10 AM »
Just went and saw this over the weekend, in IMAX :).  By far the best Batman/Dark Knight movie yet.  Bane was badass!!!!!
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« Reply #1463 on: July 31, 2012, 12:08:47 PM »
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Gyllenhaal >>> Holmes.  The former can act.

Spot on. Holmes was probably the weakest link in Batman Begins.
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« Reply #1464 on: August 01, 2012, 01:59:18 AM »
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« Reply #1465 on: August 01, 2012, 03:19:34 AM »
^ That's awesome.
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« Reply #1466 on: August 01, 2012, 04:43:46 AM »
^^ Indeed that is very awesome.

I always hated that scene where Lucius suddenly became all preachy out of nowhere and was like "this is wrong!!!!" despite multiple murders, bombings and chaos on a daily basis and the sonar thing being a potential way to stop the Joker right then and there. Lucius is usually way ahead of the curve on what to do, but that reaction seemed out of character.
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« Reply #1467 on: August 01, 2012, 09:02:13 AM »
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« Reply #1468 on: August 01, 2012, 09:11:16 AM »
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:lol Yeah I always thought that when watching The Dark Knight - sure it looks good to do the moral thing, but that decision's going to look a lot more questionable in the next film when you need to find the villain to save lives again.

Actually though, I don't think The Dark Knight Rises suffers too much from it. At the end they knew exactly where Bane was. The technology wouldn't have shown which truck had the bomb in it or not. Even at the beginning, it probably wouldn't have been much help finding his base in the sewers.
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« Reply #1469 on: August 01, 2012, 09:19:24 AM »
I don't know, maybe it would have helped them to detect the whole explosives thing? Unusual movement in the sewers of the city?
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