NHL 2022-2023: FA July 13th - LET IT BEGIN

[jingle.boy]

For sure. You often hear about the visiting team wanting to “take the crowd out of it”. The fans can be a huge boost for the home team.

[Stadler]

Boy, losing the way the Panthers did last year must have really given them the kick in the ass they needed, because they having been rolling at the right times now and Bob is playing well when they need him to be.

3-0 lead.  Now the Leafs needs to do one of the very hardest thing to do and I don't see this Panthers team collapsing and getting reversed sweep.

I don't want to say anything, so's I don't jinx it, but there's a theory going around about "President's Cup winners" and "poor playoff performances" and "following years" that bodes well for one of the original six teams...

[TAC]

Boy, losing the way the Panthers did last year must have really given them the kick in the ass they needed, because they having been rolling at the right times now and Bob is playing well when they need him to be.

3-0 lead.  Now the Leafs needs to do one of the very hardest thing to do and I don't see this Panthers team collapsing and getting reversed sweep.

I don't want to say anything, so's I don't jinx it, but there's a theory going around about "President's Cup winners" and "poor playoff performances" and "following years" that bodes well for one of the original six teams...

Are the Bruins trading Zacha, Debrusk, and Gryzlchk for Tkachuck, Verhaege, and Montour?

[SchecterShredder]

Just curious…because having a home team is new to us.

But I took not a little bit of pride, when the commentators after the game happened to mention how loud the Seattle crowd is.

This really made my heart beam, because it takes me back to the ‘83 Seahawks in the Kingdome.   We were the first crowd in the NFL to be flagged for delay of game (because of John Elway’s whining) and we are the first crowd that I know of to actually gain a legendary reputation for our volume level. So to hear the commentators acknowledge that it’s hard to play in Seattle because of the noise level made me so happy.

It takes me back to when I was actually in the Kingdome at a Seahawks game, and I *literally* had to scream directly in the ear of the person I came with in order to have a conversation because the crowd noise was so overpowering.

I’m not saying we are “the loudest” because I have no idea. But hearing the commentary that it was an issue if you come to Seattle gave me a moment of home town pride.

So I’m asking sincerely. Does crowd enthusiasm and/or noise enter into the game as much as it does with other sports? Do we *potentially* have an advantage in that department if it’s even true?

I think the crowd boosts the players on both sides though. Players like playing in full, loud arenas and stadiums. Even if it's a hostile fanbase it creates a nearly tangible energy in the building.

Many moons ago I read an article in the newspaper that ran the math on home vs. away winning %, and it was close to 50/50. I just did a check on the 2022-23 standings, and it's pretty close.

Avg Home W%: 52.8%
Avg Away W%: 47.2%

Avg Home L%: 47.8%
Avg Away L%: 52.2%

Some serious outliers in the data considering a bottom feeder team like columbus got 64% of their meagre win total at home, whereas SJ managed the same % but from road wins (their home crowd only saw 8 victories last season). Lots of teams near the top had less than 50% of their wins at home, Colorado (43%) and my beloved Oilers (46%) included.

Most interesting team was Arizona. Despite finishing 27th in the league, they had a winning record at home (21-20). They only won 28 games, and 21 of those were at the "mullet". WTF

[TAC]

I'd prefer the Bruins play all of their playoff games on the road from this point on.

[pg1067]

Boy, losing the way the Panthers did last year must have really given them the kick in the ass they needed, because they having been rolling at the right times now and Bob is playing well when they need him to be.

3-0 lead.  Now the Leafs needs to do one of the very hardest thing to do and I don't see this Panthers team collapsing and getting reversed sweep.

I don't want to say anything, so's I don't jinx it, but there's a theory going around about "President's Cup winners" and "poor playoff performances" and "following years" that bodes well for one of the original six teams...

*President's Trophy

The only team to win the President's Trophy and lose in the first round and win the Stanley Cup in the following season was Tampa Bay, who won the PT and lost in the first round in 2018-19 and then won the Bubble Cup.  Not sure one occurrence is much of a basis for a theory, especially when PT winners have been eliminated in the first round of the playoffs with the same frequency that they've won the Stanley Cup.

[KevShmev]

Serious question to fans of teams who lost in the 1st round: are you still watching the playoffs and how much?

I ask because I know from history that when the Blues have made the playoffs and get eliminated, it often zaps my energy out of wanting to watch anymore hockey that season.  I didn't watch much last year after they got eliminated by the Avs.  Part of that was I didn't want the nausea of seeing the Avs win the Cup, but that is usually the case after the Blues get knocked out.  If they lost in particularly agonizing fashion, the party is always over. 

[pg1067]

Serious question to fans of teams who lost in the 1st round: are you still watching the playoffs and how much?

Yes, but not with the same vigor.  Dodgers games take priority, and I've been paying more attention to the NBA playoffs than I usually do.  I watched a decent chunk of the third period and OT of the Leafs/Panthers game, but the other two games were out of hand pretty quickly, so I didn't pay much attention to them.  Going forward, it'll depend somewhat on who's playing.  If we end up with Edmonton and Florida in the SCF, I probably won't watch much.

[SchecterShredder]

Serious question to fans of teams who lost in the 1st round: are you still watching the playoffs and how much?

I ask because I know from history that when the Blues makes the playoffs and get eliminated, it often zaps my energy out of wanting to watch anymore hockey that season.  I didn't watch much last year after they got eliminated by the Avs.  Part of that was I didn't want the nausea of seeing the Avs win the Cup, but that is usually the case after the Blues get knocked out.  If they lost in particularly agonizing fashion, the party is always over. 

I don't watch any games once Edmonton gets bounced (or in many, many, many years don't make it at all). I'll check the scores or watch the highlight package, but I wouldn't sit to watch other teams play. I make no illusions: I'm an Oilers fan, not an NHL hockey fan. I'd have to have literally nothing better to do, and that's highly unlikely

[TAC]

Serious question to fans of teams who lost in the 1st round: are you still watching the playoffs and how much?

I always watch the playoffs after the Bruins are eliminated. I neither hate nor love any of the remaining teams, and the games have been great.

I've always said that after the Bruins are eliminated each year, that I can finally sit back and enjoy the playoffs.

  Dodgers games take priority, and I've been paying more attention to the NBA playoffs than I usually do.

Oddly the Sox have the 5th best record in all of MLB right now, and I think I finally watched my first games this weekend. And for us, the Celtics are still going. But Celtics games aside, NBA playoffs will never override NHL playoffs.

[SchecterShredder]

Oddly the Sox have the 5th best record in all of MLB right now, and I think I finally watched my first games this weekend. And for us, the Celtics are still going. But Celtics games aside, NBA playoffs will never override NHL playoffs.

You mean 7th best. TB, BAL, TOR, TEX, ATL and LAD are all ahead of them.

[TAC]

Oddly the Sox have the 5th best record in all of MLB right now, and I think I finally watched my first games this weekend. And for us, the Celtics are still going. But Celtics games aside, NBA playoffs will never override NHL playoffs.

You mean 7th best. TB, BAL, TOR, TEX, ATL and LAD are all ahead of them.

As of Saturday anyway. They did lose yesterday.

[Stadler]

Serious question to fans of teams who lost in the 1st round: are you still watching the playoffs and how much?

I ask because I know from history that when the Blues have made the playoffs and get eliminated, it often zaps my energy out of wanting to watch anymore hockey that season.  I didn't watch much last year after they got eliminated by the Avs.  Part of that was I didn't want the nausea of seeing the Avs win the Cup, but that is usually the case after the Blues get knocked out.  If they lost in particularly agonizing fashion, the party is always over. 

I haven't watched much since the Bruins were eliminated, but that's more life than Bruins.   I will probably watch a lot of hockey over the next week or so, since I'm traveling, and I will watch more as we go deeper in the playoffs.   

[Anguyen92]

Serious question to fans of teams who lost in the 1st round: are you still watching the playoffs and how much?

I'm still watching the playoffs.  Primarily the Western Conference games.  That said, my attention has been divided into doing other various hobbies.

[gmillerdrake]

Serious question to fans of teams who lost in the 1st round: are you still watching the playoffs and how much?

I'm still watching the playoffs.  Primarily the Western Conference games.  That said, my attention has been divided into doing other various hobbies.

We (my wife and son who plays hockey) watch as many games as we can. Playoff hockey is great to watch. We’ve been rooting for the Leafs and Kraken…..but don’t really have an allegiance to any team. It’s just fin to watch good hockey.

[King Postwhore]

Serious question to fans of teams who lost in the 1st round: are you still watching the playoffs and how much?

I haven't. I've checked into games and scores but I haven't watched a full game.

[TAC]

Serious question to fans of teams who lost in the 1st round: are you still watching the playoffs and how much?

I haven't. I've checked into games and scores but I haven't watched a full game.

Wouldn't want to miss a show.

[King Postwhore]

Better than seeing teams that piss me off.

[TAC]

Homah.

[romdrums]

Who's excited to watch the NHL Draft Lottery tonight?  It's been my playoffs these last few years since the Wings hit the rebuild.  Hoping for some lottery luck to get either 1st or 2nd overall.  As long as Chicago and Montreal don't get number 1 overall, and Ottawa doesn't get to number 2 (they're number 2 in so many other ways!) and the Wings don't drop to 11th overall, I'll be good.

[SchecterShredder]

Who's excited to watch the NHL Draft Lottery tonight?  It's been my playoffs these last few years since the Wings hit the rebuild.  Hoping for some lottery luck to get either 1st or 2nd overall.  As long as Chicago and Montreal don't get number 1 overall, and Ottawa doesn't get to number 2 (they're number 2 in so many other ways!) and the Wings don't drop to 11th overall, I'll be good.

I'm excited about the draft lottery, and my team isn't even in it. As an Oilers fan, I know firsthand what it feels like to get a talent like Connor Bedard. I still remember exactly where I was and my reaction in 2015 when that gold card with the Edmonton logo was revealed. This guy is the type of player you can really build a franchise around.

[TAC]

Montreal is getting the #1 pick. The NHL did all they could do to prop up Edmonton, and then Toronto. Sorry, Connor Bedard is not going to Columbus.

[jingle.boy]

Serious question to fans of teams who lost in the 1st round: are you still watching the playoffs and how much?

I always watch the playoffs after the Bruins are eliminated. I neither hate nor love any of the remaining teams, and the games have been great.

I've always said that after the Bruins are eliminated each year, that I can finally sit back and enjoy the playoffs.

Same... 'cept, Leafs.

I just hope Chicago doesn't get it/him... that franchise still has a lot of repenting to do, imo.

[King Postwhore]

Homah.

Yeah. So what?  I'll spend time with my wife. Not in my man cave.

[gmillerdrake]

Serious question to fans of teams who lost in the 1st round: are you still watching the playoffs and how much?

I always watch the playoffs after the Bruins are eliminated. I neither hate nor love any of the remaining teams, and the games have been great.

I've always said that after the Bruins are eliminated each year, that I can finally sit back and enjoy the playoffs.

Same... 'cept, Leafs.

I just hope Chicago doesn't get it/him... that franchise still has a lot of repenting to do, imo.

Yeah…..and honestly, they should have been removed from contention to get any #1 pick for ‘X’ amount of years.

[TAC]

I just read that a team can't win the lottery twice in a 5 year period. That would rule out the Habs..

[pg1067]

If there's anything more boring than watching a draft, it's watching a draft lottery.  And it's not like picking one of 16 envelopes out of a hopper.  I'm good with hearing who's picking where after the fact (and that was true when the Kings were part of it).

[Anguyen92]

I just read that a team can't win the lottery twice in a 5 year period. That would rule out the Habs..

The Habs only won the draft lottery once when that rule began in 2020, I think?  If they win the Lottery this year, it would lock them out of ever winning the draft lottery again for the next few years.

[TAC]

I just read that a team can't win the lottery twice in a 5 year period. That would rule out the Habs..

The Habs only won the draft lottery once when that rule began in 2020, I think?  If they win the Lottery this year, it would lock them out of ever winning the draft lottery again for the next few years.

Oh, ok, so their 2020 draft win doesn't count yet?

Dammit!

[Anguyen92]

They weren't in the 2020 draft lottery.  They technically qualified for the playoffs that year after beating the Pens in the play-in in the bubble.  The one that does count is the 2022 draft.

[TAC]

They weren't in the 2020 draft lottery.  They technically qualified for the playoffs that year after beating the Pens in the play-in in the bubble.  The one that does count is the 2022 draft.

OK yeah that's what I meant. 

[SchecterShredder]

If there's anything more boring than watching a draft, it's watching a draft lottery.  And it's not like picking one of 16 envelopes out of a hopper.  I'm good with hearing who's picking where after the fact (and that was true when the Kings were part of it).

^^this is more what i meant.  I'm excited about where Bedard might land, but I have no intention of watching the draw live. The internet will fill me in,  or it'll be all over the broadcast when i finish putting my spawn to bed

[Anguyen92]

At least, we are assured that we will not see this.



Or this.

[Anguyen92]

Wow.  Chicago actually leapfrogged two spots in the draft and now they get #1. 

[gmillerdrake]

What a fucking joke. Seriously. Utterly ridiculous