Author Topic: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread (Read 576611 times)

wolfking · « **Reply #3290 on:** May 17, 2015, 03:48:39 AM »

I have After the Rain, that's a good disc, but I've never listened to Lightning. I should check that out.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #3291 on:** May 17, 2015, 03:53:36 AM »

I'm not sure if it would be your kind of thing (then again, I wouldn't think After The Rain would be either), but it's a really strong album, and worth taking a listen to.

wolfking · « **Reply #3292 on:** May 17, 2015, 04:58:54 AM »

Don't get me wrong, After the Rain was one of those cheap albums I picked up, mainly cause it has Brett Garsed. I didn't expect much, but was pleastantly surprised. But not one of my fav melodic rock albums or anything.

wolfking · « **Reply #3293 on:** May 17, 2015, 05:22:03 AM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=E7mvFvqtslc

16 minute sampler of the new Ten. Production still sounds horrid like the first song, but the material hear actually sounds pretty solid, same level as Albion by the sounds of it. Gonna get it for sure. Just wish the production was better.

wolfking · « **Reply #3294 on:** May 19, 2015, 05:55:36 AM »

So, mr.com gave the new Ten a 92% and praises the excellent production. We will see.

Bolsters · « **Reply #3295 on:** May 19, 2015, 06:08:31 AM »

I don't know why you guys bother with that website.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #3296 on:** May 19, 2015, 06:08:32 AM »

92% is barely a pass by mr.com standards. It must really suck.

wolfking · « **Reply #3297 on:** May 19, 2015, 06:42:34 AM »

Quote from: Bolsters on May 19, 2015, 06:08:31 AM

I don't know why you guys bother with that website.

Just a go to website every day. Don't spend time, just look to see if there is any news I'm interested in.

Quote from: BlobVanDam on May 19, 2015, 06:08:32 AM

92% is barely a pass by mr.com standards. It must really suck.

Yeah, that's like a 60%on a normal scale.

jjrock88 · « **Reply #3298 on:** May 19, 2015, 11:29:26 AM »

Is that website biased or are they getting paid by record companies. Ive never really checked it out, but it sounds like constant good reviews

wolfking · « **Reply #3299 on:** May 19, 2015, 03:44:24 PM »

Quote from: jjrock88 on May 19, 2015, 11:29:26 AM

Is that website biased or are they getting paid by record companies. Ive never really checked it out, but it sounds like constant good reviews

I think they are sponsored by the record company or something. There's definitely some connection. Their reviews use to have merit though.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #3300 on:** May 19, 2015, 08:43:49 PM »

There definitely has to be a connection, even if it's just to keep getting promo copies for review. The only bad reviews they give are to albums that deviate from the narrow melodic rock niche, like straight up rock stuff that's probably from other record labels.

bl5150 · « **Reply #3301 on:** May 19, 2015, 08:54:23 PM »

I find it hard to judge .I've known Andrew for longer than the site has even been in existence and have always found him to be a stickler for integrity and standards in all areas. I have as much fun with his review scores as anyone but I would like to think he's just lost the ability to be objective - not through financial inducement but just has the blinkers on when it comes to a certain niche which seems very stale to many of us. And it's pretty clear to me that most of the patrons of his site share his opinions , so it's not as if he's standing out in that regard.

He has always been on the high side with review scores.I do remember once he gave something Lukather was involved in a low score and Luke didn't speak to him for a while. He must be under plenty of pressure from his artist contacts/friends and sponsors.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #3302 on:** May 19, 2015, 08:59:12 PM »

Imagine how pissed off the record companies and musicians would be if this thread reviewed them.

bl5150 · « **Reply #3303 on:** May 19, 2015, 09:06:15 PM »

The official melodic rock/AOR thread , brought to you by Frontiers

Kwyjibo · « **Reply #3304 on:** May 20, 2015, 02:39:51 AM »

I think it is extremely hard to stay really independent when running such a site. Not only for financial reasons but you have to have good connections, you have to get information earlier than others, you have to get promo copies etc. If you piss off too much people from the melodic rock scene, you simply cannot make a living running such a site.

That said, I don't think that Andrew is getting paid by record companies for his reviews. He seems to only like a certain kind of melodic rock and if a record hits this spot, it is going to get high scores, no matter how good or bad it really is. Other records, that don't fit into his kinda narrow niche are not going to score good, regardless of quality. At least that's my impression.

wolfking · « **Reply #3305 on:** May 20, 2015, 06:17:24 AM »

Quote from: bl5150 on May 19, 2015, 08:54:23 PM

I do remember once he gave something Lukather was involved in a low score and Luke didn't speak to him for a while.

That's absurd.

Quote from: BlobVanDam on May 19, 2015, 08:59:12 PM

Imagine how pissed off the record companies and musicians would be if this thread reviewed them.

haha, especailly over the last few months.

bl5150 · « **Reply #3306 on:** May 20, 2015, 09:37:58 AM »

Funnily enough just as we're chatting about this ,it appears there's been some sort of bust up between Andrew and Frontiers. This will be interesting.

wolfking · « **Reply #3307 on:** May 20, 2015, 04:23:46 PM »

Quote from: bl5150 on May 20, 2015, 09:37:58 AM

Funnily enough just as we're chatting about this ,it appears there's been some sort of bust up between Andrew and Frontiers. This will be interesting.

Wow. I wonder what over.

bl5150 · « **Reply #3308 on:** May 20, 2015, 05:20:44 PM »

I have no idea really but my guess would be he's trodden on some toes trying to sign artists to/over promote artists on his own label.

wolfking · « **Reply #3309 on:** May 20, 2015, 08:37:33 PM »

Quote from: bl5150 on May 20, 2015, 05:20:44 PM

I have no idea really but my guess would be he's trodden on some toes trying to sign artists to/over promote artists on his own label.

All of those new ones he's been pimping lately I haven't even bothered to check out anyway. There's even one with David Readman but couldn't be assed looking into it.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #3310 on:** May 20, 2015, 09:58:05 PM »

Quote from: wolfking on May 20, 2015, 04:23:46 PM

Quote from: bl5150 on May 20, 2015, 09:37:58 AM
Funnily enough just as we're chatting about this ,it appears there's been some sort of bust up between Andrew and Frontiers. This will be interesting.

Wow. I wonder what over.

He probably gave an album only 91% or something.

bl5150 · « **Reply #3311 on:** May 21, 2015, 12:38:03 AM »

This from Andrew

The situation is fairly simple. Frontiers cut their MR advertising deal by a margin of 85%.
The new offer was such that it wouldn't have even covered bandwidth costs, let alone my time.
I had no choice but to decline.

The issue of MRR (edit: Andrew's label) did get raised, they do feel as if I'm in competition with them, but that hasn't previously been an issue raised since starting the label.

The final comment was that they do not feel web advertising matters anymore.

So I was partly right - I think the 1st and 3rd paras have more to do with the 2nd than he's letting on. That's a shame but I suppose if he continues to review their stuff (as he must if the site is to have any cred) and the 90%+ scores keep coming , then we'll know it's just him

If he makes the mistake of not carrying news/reviews relating to Frontiers then I'd say he's finished.

The other interesting comment was that he's also fallen out with (more minor label) Escape as he refuses to cover anything to do with Tommy Denander who is one of their artists. I can sort of understand that as , although Tommy puts out some good stuff, he is a fair tosser and supposedly he's upset a lot of people in the industry in recent times. That's aside from him claiming to have played with artists who have barely met him.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #3312 on:** May 21, 2015, 12:56:20 AM »

Well that sorta confirms what we suspected. It will be interesting to see if we now get more critical reviews, or if he tries to maintain good reviews to keep the option open in future.

wolfking · « **Reply #3313 on:** May 21, 2015, 05:37:52 AM »

At the end of the day, this doesn't really make a difference to anything for us I'd say. Perhaps more realistic reviews and perhaps will have to search elsewhere for up and coming melodic rock.

wolfking · « **Reply #3314 on:** May 21, 2015, 05:49:20 AM »

New HOL song. Quite AOR, but really nice. Great Jimi solo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZC8qyuQxs4

wolfking · « **Reply #3315 on:** May 21, 2015, 08:57:39 PM »

Final Freefall 2 guest list;

TONY MARTIN (ex- Black Sabbath),
JOE LYNN TURNER (ex- Rainbow ex-Deep Purple)
JORN LANDE
TONY HARNELL (Skid Row, Starbreaker ex TNT)
RICK ALTZI (Masterplan)
JAKOB SAMUEL (The Poodles),
HARRY HESS (Harem Scarem),
REBECCA DE LA MOTTE
DAVID READMAN (Pink Cream 69)
MAGNUS KALRSSON

Very very solid. Although this Rebecca chick, whoever the hell she is better be good. Hopefully she doesn't put a dent in this amazing lineup. She definitely is out of place on that list.

bl5150 · « **Reply #3316 on:** May 21, 2015, 09:03:10 PM »

Magnus has been raving about her and , unlike Tolkki's choice, she's no De La Hotte - so I'm assuming she's there because she does have an amazing voice. Great lineup if the songs are there.

wolfking · « **Reply #3317 on:** May 21, 2015, 09:07:35 PM »

Quote from: bl5150 on May 21, 2015, 09:03:10 PM

Magnus has been raving about here and , unlike Tolkki's choice, she's no De La Hotte - so I'm assuming she's there because she does have an amazing voice. Great lineup if the songs are there.

I did think that when I saw her picture.

jjrock88 · « **Reply #3318 on:** May 21, 2015, 11:23:37 PM »

I'm interested in hearing Martin and Hess on this one

wolfking · « **Reply #3319 on:** May 22, 2015, 06:33:50 AM »

Tony Martin is definitely the singer I'm most excited about with this.

Evermind · « **Reply #3320 on:** May 22, 2015, 06:35:22 AM »

Will definitely get this one, hopefully Karlsson got really good songs for this.

wolfking · « **Reply #3321 on:** May 22, 2015, 06:38:46 AM »

Gord lord, the changes at mr.com are instant.

Tom Cochrane new album - 65%
Some band called Red Monday - 85%
New live Magnum - 88%

Outrageous!

Evermind · « **Reply #3322 on:** May 22, 2015, 06:48:13 AM »

Quote from: wolfking on May 22, 2015, 06:38:46 AM

Gord lord, the changes at mr.com are instant.

Tom Cochrane new album - 65%

This must be the lowest ranking he ever gave?

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #3323 on:** May 22, 2015, 06:55:27 AM »

I'm not familiar with those. Are they albums they would normally have given high scores to?

jjrock88 · « **Reply #3324 on:** May 22, 2015, 09:01:10 AM »

Is that the canadian Tom Cochrane from red rider?

News: Track-by-track video for Paralyzed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd5TbGbalPs&feature=youtu.be

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